mess-hall

[wintry acorn]

Just with assault or automatic rifleman for me

[cedar shell]

I've boosted a friend once, hit level 40 in 3 hours or so lol

[visual hollow]

Might be the wrong place to ask but where do you submit the qna questions ?

[slate canopy]

#1385203186192748574

[open kite]

Are the winter and summer warfare free dlcs unavailable?

They just dont exist for some reason?

[slate canopy]

Summer DLC is available.

Winter will be during winter time.

[open kite]

I downloaded it but it wont let me have the items.

[slate canopy]

It's for US infantry only.

[open kite]

Yes, It says I dont own it

I have it downloaded to my library, but when I try customizing, it wont let me access it

[slate canopy]

Close game, verify it's installed, re open?

[open kite]

Oh nevermind, apparently I need to level the class up to get my free cosmetics :/

[slate canopy]

"Pack unlocks for all roles (except Armor and Commander) at level Role Level 7 and is available for free for a limited time as a thank you to our community!"

[open kite]

Leveling up is such a pain

[nova pivot]

Xp farming servers 🫢

[slate canopy]

You can, but honestly, I just play what I wanna play. A lot of the default outfits are fine.

[open kite]

??

Where are those servers

[nova pivot]

You jump into any game and build a set of nodes

That gives you passive experience for every minute that the class you are using spends.

[open kite]

Thats if I am even allowed to before team limit

[nova pivot]

It's the most honest way to farm experience.

[open kite]

Saying that implies there's less honorable ways

[nova pivot]

The other option is to build things

[past vortex]

if you really feel you need to cheese level do some seeding, at least that does something good

[nova pivot]

Building blueprints with the hammer gives experience, find an engineer, lots of supplies, and an empty server

[analog apex]

No, don't turn to the dark side!

[open kite]

Wtf is seeding

[analog apex]

FIlling the server up.

[open kite]

With what?

[analog apex]

Players... active ones or AFKers.

[open kite]

You think I have a Bitcoin farm or something able to run multiple copies of hll?

I'm broke

[analog apex]

Special seeding rules always apply in all community servers, they vary but they have soem stuff in common - like don't go beyond the middle objective's sector line and do not destroy enemy garrisons in the 4th/5th lines.

[open kite]

Anyway that sounds like a good way to get banned from having multiple people with the same ip

[slate canopy]

Seeding is multiple players, not just 1 doing mutliple accounts. 🤦‍♀️

[open kite]

So playing with a friend is seeding...

[slate canopy]

Well, it's a server getting to a certain number of players

IE: 25 players on both sides

Doesn't mean they have to battle, it's just to get numbers up in a server so more players join.

[analog apex]

And after the server reaches the amount of players specified by the seeding rule (it varies), only afterwards the players are allowed to attack the 4th line.

[slate canopy]

(I've been AFK in HQ seeding a server before)

[past vortex]

you need to be afk in a truck tho :}

[slate canopy]

Nope, I laid on the ground next to Arty.

[analog apex]

no

unless you are trying to fill that server up and not playing for the victory, but playing for filling up the server instead

[open kite]

Why would people do that

what does it benefit

[analog apex]

because during the seeding the server mods/admins or reguar seeders build garrisons along the middle line. And if one side would win (or cap the 4th point), they would have to do it all over again and again.

People tend to leave when they see they have no spawnpoints.

And that would go against the purpose of the seeding (aka against the purpose of filling up the server).

[slate canopy]

Seeding is to get people in the game... so you get full matches. People are less likely to join a game of 30/100 vs a 60/100.

[analog apex]

And the people tend to leave also at the end of the matches, which is another reason why it is better to have the seeding matches as long as possible, without any side winning the match 5:0 (in addition to the 1st reason of garri-building effort).

[broken shoal]

gimme the patch

[analog apex]

yep gimme the MG bipodding overhaul

hopefully they kept it / fixed it

[broken shoal]

im just going to 360 in every roof that can be climbable

[jade dune]

Lemme feel more useful as a medic with this new patch

[analog apex]

not happening

at least not yet

[covert elbow]

The new call and response system is nice thought

That definitely will make medic a bit more used, but not by much

[analog apex]

yep, the rest of the medic changes in the PTE (upcoming patch stuff) have been negligible though

[past vortex]

yea now i can know if i should wait for the medic before redeploying when they start to revive

[analog apex]

I was thinking about the call and response system - beign able to see that we are waiting for the medic is good. But the medic should also be able to give signal that he is attempting to come.

[past vortex]

he can imo

[broken shoal]

the all white russian tanks look amazing

[analog apex]

I don't think so. But we'll see if they did anything like it or not when the patch releases.

[broken shoal]

and the new flares are cheff kiss

[analog apex]

Another thing that is good to have, but changes nothing though.

[broken shoal]

flare in nightmaps? cheff kiss

[past vortex]

https://youtu.be/gqPOk16PH2o?t=91

[analog apex]

They need to fix the main problems like MG bipodding (hopefully done), medic, recon vs arty meta and resource nodes.

They can make medic useful however only if they will make the dying to matter, best if done alongside making the ammo boxes useful / ammo to matter as well at the same time.

[broken shoal]

they are adding rain to mortain

but if i remember back when epic games gifted the game and i started playing. Mortain had rain

[cyan saddle]

They're updating the rain FX & adding dynamic weather

[analog apex]

So hopefully they will fix (or rather have fixed) the dynamic wather bug(s)... 🫤

[broken shoal]

Just hope community server add night maps. Most community servers hate night maps and i love them. The immersion is so fun

[jade dune]

I’m only playing medic right now since I just started and it’s low threat. Just follow revive the homies. People seem to be appreciative

[silk igloo]

It brightens anyone's day to see that even when everything is going to hell, there's still someone playing medic and trying to help you.

Makes all the mistakes of officers and command feel lesser

[half widget]

Ot is bs

[silk igloo]

now that i think of it, there's absolutely no feedback in guides or wherever else about planting OPs next to other spawns

it's the one thing that decides games and makes everyone's time miserable to the point where they accept meatgrind as normal

[covert elbow]

Agreed

[worthy charm]

https://tenor.com/view/discord-moderators-gif-19474608

@cosmic pilot

[spark canopy]

👋

[cosmic pilot]

i was gonna do a moderate me harder joke but i've used that one too often

[silk igloo]

You do not get friendly with the crew, they will take it as weakness and they will despise you

...is what i heard in a great movie

Knowing myself I gotta agree with it though. Willes is too friendly with me.

[cosmic pilot]

this 100%

look at drew, he basically hates me now 🥺

[silk igloo]

I wish we had an actual ship.

You guys ever seen Master and Commander, or read the books?

[gentle lintel]

if you were nicer to me i might like you again 😦

and if you stop using gifs in the sacred history channel

[cosmic pilot]

who are you?

[gentle lintel]

https://tenor.com/view/no-one-ann-reynolds-wentworth-nobody-not-a-soul-gif-23589424

[worthy charm]

That would require the crew to like me to begin with.

[silk igloo]

Discord just needs more than kicks and bans. Public humiliations, that's what lashings was about. Nobody here sees who got punished.

it's fair, you can just switch the internet ship as you like

[silk igloo]

that being said the rules here are silly and i'd hold the admin at gunpoint to take over his ship anytime

[cosmic pilot]

NO targeting individuals

even if it was really funny

https://tenor.com/view/waiting-gif-4372156584801469333

[silk igloo]

who says they're individuals, if i took over the ship it'd be fair if you shot me

[gentle lintel]

Is that a threat

We take those srsly here

[silk igloo]

I dont think there's a way for me to find the admins home, fly to them, find a gun and force him to surrender this server to me. And even if he did it would be a terrible bother, I think. But proverbially I'll still heckle you.

[past vortex]

there is consensus amongst normal people that its not required to be 100% credible or easy to be considered a threat

[covert elbow]

Very true statement

They take their roles very seriously

[silk igloo]

well there's some very disturbed people around, who knows what they send in dms or the mail or wherever they fixate on. people rather keep it hidden so we're none the wise

i still want to hijack this proverbial ship tho

[slate canopy]

https://tenor.com/view/how-about-no-sloth-chill-nope-no-gif-6121955

[zinc ore]

long time no see, not that I think anyone remembers me but hey- I do remember some of you! Have the devs talked about PIP scopes, yet? Jumped into hll for the first time in a few years and it was pretty jarring to get that early 2000 feel when scoping with a sniper rifle

was glad to see that free look finally is in the game

[silk igloo]

the devs dont talk to us anymore, they're scared. i wonder why.

[zinc ore]

Hey Jairion! I remember you. Oh, no?

[silk igloo]

it's a ghost ship now

[slate canopy]

There is gonna be a live Q&A on Thursday.
#telegrams message

[covert elbow]

Last word we got was when it was removed. It causes to much stuttering and lag for it to be in the game

But that. Was BM so who knows if it could be added or not

[zinc ore]

I see.

[silk igloo]

well it's not the same as jambax answering any nitpicky thing here and calling us silly when he felt like it, innit?

[zinc ore]

now we're talking

[slate canopy]

I'm simply saying it's not they DON'T talk to us... but it's obviously "not how it use to be" I guess. I don't know, I haven't been on this discord super long. Only Feb 2022.

[past vortex]

did the talking do anything back then?
game seems to be the same like forever :D

[zinc ore]

Ill be honest with ya, it rarely did from what I can recall. But it was a cozy vibe lmao

[stoic garnet]

The IP was acquired by a mobile games publisher. They have 0 experience with the genre. I will eat a sock live on cam if a major rework ever goes live

[silk igloo]

Stuff in the Q&A is interesting and I'm glad to hear of them, and I get that it's useful to make an event of it that everyone hears about. It's all so curated and distant though.

[zinc ore]

from my recollection we had tons of different ideas, some really good, some not that good and everything in between. BM often did something completely different but at times they hit the spot

[silk igloo]

It was insightful, like the suppression reduction by medic and SL was only communicated here

[past vortex]

the bipod rework left me a bit more hopeful
that somewhat proves that they actually can programm stuff and not only use the editor like bm

ofc they have no idea about the game and neighter has ben ....

[cosmic pilot]

this may be true, however
if you read any feedback on the discord you'd think it was the worst change to ever happen

therefore, i still have no hope in the playerbase to not ruin a good thing

[past vortex]

the competitive mg mains are salty yea :D

[covert elbow]

They don’t listen to a lot of “veterans” ideas these days tbh

[cosmic pilot]

hundreds of hours, studying postions, just...gone 💨

[covert elbow]

The games simply become something that wasn’t the original vision

[covert elbow]

And I love it haha

[cosmic pilot]

ehhhhhhhhhhhhhh

[covert elbow]

Let them taste what us history enjoyers have to deal with every patch

[cosmic pilot]

"has become" implies something deviated along the way
and the only argument for that to be true really is the amount of development console stole away from PC up to release

but otherwise, not really

[covert elbow]

I mean the original vision

[cosmic pilot]

what we have is the kickstarter promises

[covert elbow]

The game went from the idea of “historical realism” to “slightly hardcore battlefield”

[cosmic pilot]

and those were obviously not met

[worthy charm]

Back then I really wasnt a big fan of the console release.

[covert elbow]

We also have the descriptor words

[cosmic pilot]

which is different than the game changing from it's original vision

[covert elbow]

Fkin mortars

[cosmic pilot]

which i'd argue it didn't

[covert elbow]

No it absolutely did

[worthy charm]

maybe

xD

[cosmic pilot]

the pre alpha warfare gamemode doesn't count

[covert elbow]

The games early marketing, descriptions, and dev talks made it apparent the game was meant to be another WW2 MilSim

[covert elbow]

Wha

[cosmic pilot]

what hooked me into HLL back in late 2019, early 2020 was that it was advertised and communicated as being more arcade than post scriptum

[covert elbow]

Really?

[cosmic pilot]

yes

[covert elbow]

I haven’t seen that in the early promo stuff

[storm stratus]

Next update is tomorrow right?

[cosmic pilot]

i got HLL because it wasn't post scriptum level of realism

[cosmic pilot]

watch old comparison videos

[covert elbow]

Oh that?

Yea that… that doesn’t actually count

[worthy charm]

Yes

[covert elbow]

I’m talking from the developers

Like what they said and stated

[slate canopy]

June 25th.

[cosmic pilot]

yeah no, i really don't recall anything changing significantly
the biggest deviation from mil sim was the addition of range pings

[slate canopy]

#telegrams message This has the details of everything.

[covert elbow]

Okay

So the games early marketing prerelease very heavily stated that the game was a serious MilSim with dedication to realism

But after it launched it became very obvious that wasn’t the product featured

And then the game never lived up to its original ideas either through incompetence, laziness, or change of vision

[cosmic pilot]

maybe i've been in it too long, but i can't argue it wasn't what they delivered at the time 🤷‍♂️

[silk igloo]

I dont think the idea of the game changed that much, rather the players evolved it to this point on their own and the devs flew with it after "tickets" were removed sometime in alpha iirc

[covert elbow]

Yea that’s the shame of it. The game it presented itself as has some seeds in the game. But they never took care of the game

Like when I say nothing changed in HLL I mean it from alpha stage

[covert elbow]

100%

[silk igloo]

If nodes had been a thing since then, and 0 manpower still ended the game, it'd all have gone differently

[covert elbow]

Man… I wonder what HLL would have been like if we still had tickets

We almost definitely wouldn’t be in the day and age of the blueberry’s

[cosmic pilot]

well it's a double edged sword
on the one hand, it has the predictability and steady stateness to an old game with a single release, one vision executed once with one final delivery
on the other, we still get new "content"

a lot of games these days are refined into entirely new games

[slate canopy]

which in my opinion, as a later joiner (Jan 2022) and didn't see the preview... I don't mind the game as is. I saw it as a WW2 tactical shooter multiplayer game I can play with my friends (which we did for a bit!). It worked, we had fun, I'm happy.

[covert elbow]

I honestly wouldn’t call this game a “vision”. It has to many conflicting factors and mechanics in the game and its surrounding self to call it a clear vision

[silk igloo]

On the other hand the game probably would've died years ago. In 2019 the peak was 1.5k players and I was happy with it.

[cosmic pilot]

forgive my prose

[covert elbow]

That’s the audience the game has these days. A simple
Fun game to play for a few weeks then put down imo

[cosmic pilot]

year over year the game gains players somehow

on steam atleast

[covert elbow]

And that isn’t entirely a bad thing but… HLL just has so much more potential

That’s what I’ve always been mad about. The game has so much potential that was squandered by BM

[slate canopy]

Put down? Nah, I still played, we just can't schedule time together easily, and we play other games together. We still play it together on occasion, I just tend to solo.

[cosmic pilot]

HLL has definately crossed out of niche into mainstream but it's unclear what it's ceiling is

[covert elbow]

And it’s not just me being an ***hole the games just genuinely unfinished

[covert elbow]

“Prose”?

[silk igloo]

yeah, year after year people kept saying that we're losing players and it's going to die... whoops every year the peak goes higher. amazing.

[covert elbow]

I’m glad you still enjoy it then!

[cosmic pilot]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prose

[slate canopy]

As for "put down"... that's gonna happy with every game. We're playing PEAK right now... but I'm sure we'll eventually do something else.

[covert elbow]

I attribute that to the semi-weekly steam sales and free weekends

If it wasn’t for those and Gamepass the game would have gone down the tube

[slate canopy]

Speaking of, Team17 games are on sale right now lol

[covert elbow]

Kek

[covert elbow]

https://tenor.com/view/crickets-crickets-chirping-silence-awkward-silence-gif-4144941840291649937

[covert elbow]

What’s PEAK?

[cosmic pilot]

it's more of, the game grew inspite of the freeweekends and gamepass

[silk igloo]

also everyone else dropped the ball

[covert elbow]

Still waiting for S:44 to release onto console

[slate canopy]

Solo or up-to-4 player coop to climb 4 different environments (Shore, Jungle, Mountain, Volcano) You can use ropes, chains, vines, piton, etc. You scavage for items as you crashed in a plane and gotta get food, banadages, other items from luggages on the map.

[covert elbow]

That sounds like fun

[slate canopy]

I learned the maps rotate ever 24 hours, so it's new every day 🤔

[wintry thistle]

HLL only grows year by year cause there’s no competition on the market

When the average person wants a slightly more in-depth shooter that’s about WW2, HLL is the only answer

[wintry acorn]

I would say squad 44 but thats a lot more in-depth

[wintry thistle]

Squad 44 is HLL’s only competitor, but its player base is insanely smaller than HLL

[wintry acorn]

Due to the reason i mentioned, yes it is

HLL is a good balance

[worthy charm]

You guys are lucky Elise is sleeping now, he would have come crawling into this channel otherwise.

[wind shore]

I heard squad 44 is not a very successful game

[silk igloo]

remove tickets out of s44 and cut the map into the same size and it'd be very popular

[wind shore]

you have such a cute avatar🥹😍🥰

[worthy charm]

And take out the Panzerwerfer 42

The thing is op as hell and not balanced at all.

[silk igloo]

i'd rather s44 be the popular one though, it has all the things we've always wanted. it's just not quite it otherwise.

[wintry acorn]

I forgot that thing existed

[worthy charm]

Maybe it could be better with some changes... but based on the tragic death of a cool looking game today, I only believe it when I play it.

[silk igloo]

I suppose it's the grownups game people go after HLL, and HLL is next after battlefield...

[slate canopy]

I came from Overwatch/Team Fortress 2/Rainbox Six Siege/Apex Legends. I played COD Warzone, but not serious.

[worthy charm]

Not sure, if S44 can take that place. I think slower games with higher skill expression are more popular.

Something like Tarkov or Hunt would come into mind for me.
( I know both are extraction shooters, I couldnt remember other ones)

[wintry acorn]

I came from enlisted to HLL

[silk igloo]

i suppose i originally got here from ducktales 2.

[storm stratus]

Came from Battlefield as my main and only FPS. A little of DeltaForce due to it being free and popular over BF’s decline.

[desert owl]

Y’all enjoy the games

[slate canopy]

I do 🙂

[desert owl]

I need to make time to play, been a while

[stoic garnet]

The reason HLL does okay and every other ww2 milim’s player count is flaming garbage is simple

HLL realizes that the game has to be interesting to play minute to minute. Whereas squad44 requires you to drink, take a nap, and meditate before shooting straight

It just disrespects your time

That’s the story of every ww2 sim that isn’t HLL

[solemn gale]

The reason HLL does okay and every other ww2 milim’s player count is flaming garbage is simple

[analog apex]

Every other? There is none such. HLL alone is not milsim by far either.

The only closest game is SQ44 and problem of that game was marketing from the beginning and ofc. because it looked just bad visually and old comparing to HLL (or to other games too). Now it is just too old despite they keep adding content to it.

The only reason HLL does OK is because it has no competition pretty much.

---

There was a time where a portion of the HLL players, myself including was eager to wait & switch to Resolve, which was supposed to be new WWII shooter game - was to be something between SQ44, HLL and Squad, but in UE5 so it would have been be futureproof too.

But since Resolve's devs changed its direction to be a post-apocalyptic post WWII alternate history game instead, HLL stays alone in the field and there is no much choice. And there is no any new WWII shooter on the horizon either. No new WWII shooter = no competition for HLL = no choice but to play HLL => therefore HLL does OK even without rly trying.

Rest assured - if Resolve had released and in its original direction, I would have been gone from HLL and I am quite sure I would be far from alone. HLL devs are just darn lucky that there haven't been any other games that would pose a competition to HLL... so far.

[finite berry]

https://tenor.com/view/ours-blanc-meme-bonjour-polaire-polar-bear-gif-25176258

[analog apex]

Morning 🙂

[finite berry]

Do that and it will die immediately because it would be the same as HLL but running worse. Two things kept Squad 44 away from dying: the loyal community and it being NOT HLL

[finite berry]

Morning :D

[finite berry]

You do realise that changes to the canteen and stamina system were made months ago, right?

[analog apex]

And about the tickets again - if tickets are so huge problem to some peeps around here, I always wonder how come Squad has such high playerCounts... it uses tickets too which clearly shows that the tickets are not the problem... imo. more like the HLL players that just used to ticketLess system in HLL and got comfortable too much, are.

Meaning: if HLL had tickets from its beginnings too, nobody here would care at all either the same way.

[topaz barn]

https://tenor.com/view/consider-yourself-warned-vanessa-williams-warned-watch-out-watch-your-back-gif-8752325

@lunar wadi can you stop following me about heavy breathing in game or il will report you to T17.

[finite berry]

I agree

[wind shore]

Played a match and got tk'd by a sniper couldn't kick them so I just followed them and kept giving away their op position 12/10

[deft bluff]

Anyone here good at cod on ps5 and hll? Any controller tips?

[lunar wadi]

https://tenor.com/view/regina-george-mean-girls-obsessed-gif-14169675

[thin scarab]

The reason SQ has high Player Count is nothing to do with Tickets. It has a modern settings. And more people want to have modern guns.

[analog apex]

true, but if the ticket would be a real hateFeature, the players would have expressed such opinion there too, wouldn't they have...

in here some peeps are fighting it like some Dracula when seeing a cross xD

[thin scarab]

Its not some. I think Most of the Player base.

Tbh i only ever see the same 2-3 people Talk about a Ticket System. And some how These people keep saying that only „some“ Players Are against a Ticket System. Thats just my Observation

[analog apex]

well majority of the playerbase is always silent sadly

I wish more peeps would express themselves to no matter if suggestions or reports

[thin scarab]

Its also Save to say, if HLL was in a modern Setting it would blow SQ out of the Park.

[analog apex]

I wouldn't be so sure tbh.

plenty of 1st person modern stuff out there of all kinds

[molten sail]

Maybe, doubt it the skill floor and ceiling are to low to maintain a healthy player base

[analog apex]

don't even mention the skill floor 😄 ... most of the HLL players are playing like sheep and can't do most of even basic stuff tbh. 😐

[molten sail]

Well those are the ones that will play for a month and leave

[analog apex]

but yeah I get what you mean - I think the same

it's the reason why we keep seeing lowLvls all the time for the most part. And if high LVLs, just some clan peeps here and there or some fake high LVLs from Bob the Builder.

[thin scarab]

We Can’t forget the its mostly older people who enjoy a Game with WW2 Setting like this. But Most yunger players will Go for a modern Setting.

If for some weird reason SQ makes it way on console then I would probs Change my mind.

[analog apex]

Omg., am I old then xD

I dislike modern-setting games. All too similar, all too non-special when it comes to operations & weapons.

Nothing can beat some D-day and other WWII stuff in my eyes.

[worthy charm]

Oh, great and wise Sam!! What is your Knowledge?

[analog apex]

No idea what knowledge 😄

[worthy charm]

All of it xD

[thin scarab]

Not all are older but mainly 😂

[worthy charm]

For real though, a modern HLL may be a great game, there currently isnt a good BF game and SQ is more a niche experience.

I believe the modern setting has more widespread appeal, than ww2

[finite berry]

BIG doubt right there. Squad is much more refined and runs better compared to 44. It would be at the very least strong competition to HLL.

[subtle idol]

Heyy I’m new here 👋🏼

[knotty mantle]

omg gamer gurl

[finite berry]

Welcome :)

[cyan shore]

Uhh someone up to make a ps5 team? Im tryna get assault to rank 9

[nova pivot]

Wrong place friend, #console-looking-for-unit ask here 🫡

[late hemlock]

Hey all, how is everyone on this fine day

[slate canopy]

Good day, I am good, how about yourself?

[late hemlock]

Yeah all good my end mate

[wild moon]

did anyone see the overlord dlc cosmetics

[covert elbow]

The wha

[past vortex]

https://store.steampowered.com/app/3768610/Hell_Let_Loose__Operation_Overlord_Units/

Steam

Hell Let Loose - Operation Overlord Units

Operation Overlord Units

Fight throughout Normandy with the Operation Overlord Units DLC.…

Release Date

Jun 25, 2025

[covert elbow]

Oh those

Yea they look pretty bad

That ranger uniform makes me cringe

And the Luftwaffe uniform still has 2 iron crosses for no reason

[past vortex]

it looks more like one but worn in a particular way

i think its the iron cross ribbon and the eastern front medal ribbon, those were both worn in the same button hole

[frozen plover]

under 60 fps on high graphic preset on a RTX 4060, i5 12450HX, 24gb ram, 6VRAM isnt normal right?

[slate canopy]

It is more CPU heavy.

[cosmic pilot]

I want to demolish this narrative

[grizzled kiln]

No, just poorly optimized is all

[keen glen]

cheater in HLL OFFICIAL Europe #1 ruining the server nobodys spawns insta killing

he has 3 accounts
serverbutcher1 to 3

lol

@slate canopy help pls

[cosmic pilot]

It's normal.
I have a rtx 4060 8GB VRAM, and ryzen 7 5800x and 64GB ram.
Ultra settings is 70fps

[mystic gust]

Hey is there any way to report cheaters?

[finite berry]

Did it happen on community-hosted or official servers?

[mystic gust]

HLL Official Europe #01 right now

[finite berry]

You can't

Just don't play on official servers, those are unmoderated

[mystic gust]

Unbelievable. Well, thanks. I'll keep away from those.

[frozen plover]

correction, i got 8 vram not 6 vram

but i guess its normal

[cosmic pilot]

It's "normal" but it shouldn't be imo

[past vortex]

yea, especially the cpu usage :}

[grizzled kiln]

Nah, both CPU and GPU. The usual UE mess

Officially supporting DX12 can boost performance for most people though.

[past vortex]

a bit, but you see that everyone who hasnt got a very good cpu gets even worse fps

[cosmic pilot]

That's coming in a near future patch, no?

[past vortex]

im not so sure about most
mainly for very fast gpus

[grizzled kiln]

Yup

[past vortex]

the idea that the offical support will change anything is funny

the whole change will be a setting in game

[cosmic pilot]

There's some backend stuff to it.
For example, it shouldn't stutter if it's officially supported

DX12 is substantially different than dx 11 in architecture

[past vortex]

so you think they are working on changing the render architecture?

[cosmic pilot]

Yesn't

[past vortex]

i really doubt that

but ofc i cant know

[cosmic pilot]

Basically, it's not as easy as flipping "the DX12 is officially supported" switch

[past vortex]

i think they will do just that, would be nice if im proven wrong

[cosmic pilot]

This will be the outcome, yes. But not the means if that makes sense.

[grizzled kiln]

You can enable it now, but it's not stable for some. Can cause stutters and crashes

Last time I tried it did boost my fps by more than 50% though

[past vortex]

you cant say anything about the stutter until you played the same map twice

[grizzled kiln]

And who said I didn't ?

[shadow sable]

Guys what happened to tank bible guide...i think the site is gone!

[grizzled kiln]

Yeah site's gone

[shadow sable]

U have the pdf of this guide?

[cosmic pilot]

Rip, it was slightly outdated anyway

[shadow sable]

So whats the best guide rn?

[cosmic pilot]

Hell if I know.
Peace.

[past vortex]

aaaaw should have download it

[slate canopy]

I'm sure there are some guides in #1273828697941606450

May not be as detailed as the tank bible, but still great information.

[shadow sable]

Ty

[past vortex]

@proper citrus can we have the tank bible in some form ?

even as raw html....

[devout arch]

.divagree

[slate canopy]

It come sup in the 'wayback machine' although th elayout isn't good lol.

here

[slate canopy]

You already have it

[past vortex]

yea its ok on wayback, just takes really long to load

[fast tulip]

#honeypot this is actualy smart asf

[proper citrus]

Yeah I'll look into it

[slate canopy]

It is pretty useful to catch those bad people 😉

[modest panther]

The 2 Iron cross are not inaccurate, because you could have been awarded the First class, second class, and after there was those with oak leaves and sword, gold, diamonds…

[past vortex]

naw, that were upgrades, only 2nd class was worn as ribbon

[modest panther]

No, it’s often a misconception, it depended, sometime, they were wearing the 2nd Class as a ribbon, but mostly it was the Winterschlacht im Osten ribbon, the 1st class was near the collar and 2nd attach to the uniform. If the soldier had badges it was commonly place under those but not always.

[past vortex]

naw 2nd class was ribbon on service unifor and normal medal on parade

[modest panther]

But this type of configuration was often used by the Luftwaffe, it was less common to see 2 Iron cross on a Wehrmacht soldier and Waffen-SS soldier

[past vortex]

becuase that wasnt a thing

[modest panther]

Yes, it was a thing, my Great Grandfather was recruited in the LVF when Germany annexed France and when he later joined the 33rd SS division (Charlemagne) he received both the 2nd and 1st class Iron cross and told me before passing away in 2020 that it was common to see 2 iron cross on Luftwaffe soldier but less common on ordinary one, because himself was wearing the 2 iron cross on his uniform and had the Winterschlacht im osten ribbon on his uniform

The new Luftwaffe uniform will be good for artillery purposes since they were mainly operated by Luftwaffe member.

[cosmic pilot]

Guys, wtf is #ww2-history for

[modest panther]

Since he wasn’t awarded the Knight Iron cross he used to wear the 1st class near the collar and the 2nd on the uniform and it was common to see this on German who weren’t awarded the Knight cross

[past vortex]

memes

[cosmic pilot]

No it isn't. Ask me how I know.

[worthy charm]

https://tenor.com/view/banned-gif-2571939306005494865

[cosmic pilot]

Real

[wind shore]

We need tanks DLC

and vehicles DLC

[mellow knoll]

We need more camos lol

not dlcs

[wind shore]

That it’s also

With DLC

We need it with DLC

[mellow knoll]

Why? It should be accessible to everyone

[wind shore]

Are you about tank camouflages or camos

[pine ember]

We dont need more DLC

[mellow knoll]

tank camos

[wind shore]

Yes that it could be like that

Yes, tank camos better standard

But some vehicles could be with DLC

[slate canopy]

Vehicle DLCs wouldn't work.

[river jackal]

i think mod support would be something better to introduce, mods make every game better ||especially the ones with 18+ modss||

[pine ember]

No

[wind shore]

Commander will ask which tank, click on your nickname , and choose DLC from your list and spawn it

[slate canopy]

... No?

[wind shore]

If you will have DLC, Commander could choose

[pine ember]

Dude, come on

[mellow knoll]

Do NOT restrict extra vehicles to DLC. Are you bloody insane?

[wind shore]

Wdym , sorry , can’t understand

[river jackal]

can you just ban that guy for that idea because it is just wild

[pine ember]

No DLC anymore

[slate canopy]

Technically, no. People are allowed to their opinions on the game.

[fast tulip]

Is there a suggestions channel ?

[finite berry]

least delusional Kedo DLC suggestion

[wind shore]

I said nothing bad, just always suggesting something

[river jackal]

cosmetic DLCs im personally perfectly fine with, but if your locking down vehicles behind a pay wall, that'd be stupid

[mellow knoll]

How is it least? Sounds like most to me XD

[pine ember]

He could just burn his money, atleast that will keep him warm

[finite berry]

And not technically? 😏

[slate canopy]

#1098158460463480842 if you're inclined to do so.

[pine ember]

Even those are not ok anymore in my opinion

[fast tulip]

Thnx

[pine ember]

But it wont work

[river jackal]

well some people shouldn't have an opinion, i personally believe that only my opinion should be the only one allowed

[wind shore]

1 tank camo?

[finite berry]

https://tenor.com/view/giga-chad-gigachad-meme-giga-talk-talkmeme-gif-27266504

[pine ember]

No, the game needs other things that arent DLC

[slate canopy]

"Do not insult, mock, or target other users based on age, gender, race, nationality, occupation, physical or mental health, or even opinions about Hell Let Loose."

[river jackal]

idk, as long as it does not give any inherent buff to the player (bullet does more damage or something) then it is completely fine if you wanna have more drip

[river jackal]

mod support, all i need to say

[slate canopy]

In a game like... War Thunder, fine, have vehicle DLCs or DLCs for skins

it just doesn't work well in HLL

[desert owl]

-Betty White

[pine ember]

Yep, but that game isnt about drip, it is about realism. Or atleast was, the newest DLC look like they looked at Fortnite and thought "how can we do that, just in WW2?"

[wind shore]

They do paper tanks, it doesn’t work

I meant HLL tank system is better

[slate canopy]

I've only played planes in War Thunder 🤷‍♀️ I haven't touched it in years.

[wind shore]

Planes good

[finite berry]

Was. It was xD

[pine ember]

In my opinion, uniforms that are standard shouldnt be locked, they shouldnt be mixed between units and DLC uniforms should look rougher/more battle hardened than regular ones

[pine ember]

Sadly yes

[wind shore]

How it looks like fort

[river jackal]

we say that yet you can take half a mag of MP40 to the chest and somehow not die, despite in WW2 body armor being extremely rare

[mellow knoll]

HAHAHAHAHAHAH. Are you crazy?

Hell Let Loose's tank system is BETTER than War Thunder???

It's the worst Tank system in any WW2 game ever made.

Even Battlefield did it better

[wind shore]

Their tanks die from nowhere

In war thunder

[mellow knoll]

No they die from other tanks, like any other tank battle

[wind shore]

No impact

[wind shore]

I’ve played enlisted I think it’s the same system as war thunder

[mellow knoll]

I doubt it

[desert owl]

War torn and dirty uniforms as default would be dope. I wish it could be dynamic tho

[river jackal]

i disagree, HLL tanking is amazing, especially compared to squad, squad 44 and even arma reforger (with arma reforger probably being the best shooter today tbh)

[mellow knoll]

Surely not

I've not had enough hours in S44 or Squad to know it off by heart but I know for a fact it was 100x better than HLL's tank gameplay in less than 10 minutes of playing it.

It's 100x more intense, realistic and a whole lot funner

[pine ember]

Yes, they would

[wind shore]

And you play modern tanks vs old tanks

[finite berry]

What

[pine ember]

Atleast dont lock uniforms that would be standard on certain maps

[mellow knoll]

In S44? No you don't?

[wind shore]

It is bad, you have armour and guns

[mellow knoll]

Squad and S44 are two different games

[wind shore]

In war thunder

[wind shore]

Yes Squad 44 it’s post Scriptum

[pine ember]

Even there its not mixed

[wind shore]

I think it could be locked for a few maps

[mellow knoll]

Jesus christ my brain cells are dying

[mellow knoll]

I mean it is. The way War Thunder works is via Battle Ratings. Which some modern vehicles share with WW2 ones. It's dumb.

[pine ember]

No, they shouldnt have been made DLC in the first place

[wind shore]

DLC is quite not so expensive

It is fine

[pine ember]

Ok, yea, but they are all on a relatively same level

[river jackal]

lol no, for one, like everything else in Squad 44, it is extremely janky, half done and not fun, squad you just feel like your made out of glass, 1 AT against front = death despite being in tank, arma reforger has the same issue as squad but like everything, cranked up

[pine ember]

Thats not the point

[pine ember]

No

[mellow knoll]

That's how it worked in the war, mate...

[wind shore]

It is enough to play and have to choose uniform. You don’t see everybody is in DLC. That’s the point of DLC - it’s not whole squad

[desert owl]

I want the dlc pack with the German officer, but you can only use it on Mortain

[mellow knoll]

One AT shot to your ammo and a tank would have blown to shreds.

Or burnt out.

[wind shore]

Which pack

[river jackal]

ammo isnt stored near front of tank genius lol

[slate canopy]

I think they changed that?

[desert owl]

Red stripe on pants

[mellow knoll]

Do you even know how AT works?

[desert owl]

Did they??? I’ll buy it rn

[wind shore]

Yes

[river jackal]

bro tries to refute my argument...by not reading my point lol

[pine ember]

It gets too messy, isnt accurate and they start introducing uniforms that just dont make sense

[wind shore]

It is unlocked

[river jackal]

do you know how to read what i said?

[slate canopy]

People complained, so they unlocked it. 😅

[river jackal]

clearly not lol

[wind shore]

I was not)

I said “keep it locked”

[desert owl]

I get why they locked it, but that map is never chosen

[pine ember]

If people buy it it should be usable everywhere

[mellow knoll]

Dude. It depends on the shell that's used. If a shot goes through the front of a tank, it can still splinter and hit the ammunition.

[wind shore]

Maybe for a few maps like Stalingrad and Kursk, it could be unlocked also, make 1 DLC available for a few maps or theatre

[desert owl]

I’m hyped now, I get to look snazzy

[pine ember]

Hence why I think DLC should include relatively generic uniforms which are "upgraded"

[pine ember]

No, just no

Whole DLC policy is bad, make proper subfactions

[wind shore]

So subtractions requires new stuff

[river jackal]

AT were/are ambush tools, you wouldn't shoot it through the front because it would just deflect off of it!

[slate canopy]

I'm scrolling through the updates, to find the exact date... but I see they are bringing the winter tank & vehicle looks to Foy and Kharkov also that were in Elsenbron Ridge.

[pine ember]

No

[river jackal]

you'd go for tracks or behind

[wind shore]

We need 101st and 82 AB

[river jackal]

W moment?

[mellow knoll]

It highly depends on what vehicle is shot at.

[slate canopy]

It was in the 17.1 PTE update, so i think it will be rolled out tomorrow?

[river jackal]

no, we dont need more US v Germany

[wind shore]

Yes about the maps

[desert owl]

I beg to differ

[wind shore]

I meant uniforms

Maps are already existed for them, it needs new DLC uniforms for 82 AB

[mellow knoll]

For example, if one tried to shoot an AT rocket through the front of a Konigstiger, obviously in most cases it wouldn't do anything.

Meanwhile it is a lot more likely to penetrate a lighter armoured vehicle like the Panzer III or Panzer IV for example.

[pine ember]

We have them... A Paratrooper subfaction would be much better

[wind shore]

We need parachutes

[mellow knoll]

That doesn't mean that every tank should be impossible to kill from the front ._.

[pine ember]

Not possible

[river jackal]

Germany vs US gets extremely boring to do lol, even though the guns suck a s s, Tobruk, Driel and El Alamein are always a joy to play lol

[desert owl]

Would be a cool concept, but maps are too small

[river jackal]

this filter is so annoying, im just gonna start filter dodging then

[wind shore]

It would be perfect if we can jump with parachutes, sub-faction makes no sense with out parachuting

[desert owl]

Ahhh, were the opposite. You enjoy the maps I back out of lol

[slate canopy]

"We’re listening to your feedback and have unlocked the Mortain: Operation Lüttich Units DLC for use on all applicable US/GER maps. This change also applies to everyone that purchased the DLC prior to this hotifx." July 16, 2024. a hotfix.

[desert owl]

I’m a Hill 400 and Hurtgen forest guy

[wind shore]

Jump into the woods better or field with parachute

[pine ember]

Subfactions make sense

[wind shore]

No

[pine ember]

Yes

Is that all you got?

[desert owl]

I greatly appreciate you, they may need to update the steam dlc page. Believe I checked since that date

[river jackal]

the f u c k is wrong with you dude, next your gonna tell me PHL is a good map

[wind shore]

It needs paratrooper version M1A1, that’s all

[desert owl]

PHL?

[pine ember]

No it doesnt, no Infantry man would have it

[slate canopy]

I'll take a glance and maybe pass it on to the team if it isn't up to date.

[river jackal]

Purple Heart Lane = PHL

[desert owl]

Ahhh, it is one only the best especially with the overhaul

Feels true

[wind shore]

https://tenor.com/view/parachute-slide-into-dms-julien-delpech-bouloc-bouloc-skydive-gif-25555087

[river jackal]

this guy is trolling, mods get him!

[desert owl]

I’m not🤝

[river jackal]

then you need to be either institutionalized or a lobotomy

[desert owl]

I vote lobotomy

But fr, I love those maps with everything

[mellow knoll]

PHL isn't as bad as most people think.

I've had a lot of good games on that.

[pine ember]

PHL has its own feeling

[desert owl]

It was bad when you couldn’t cross any rivers

[pine ember]

Its hard, but its not the worst

[mellow knoll]

Sure, but kinda was the vehicle drivers at fault for that lmao.

There were ways around but it didn't help anyways

[slate canopy]

I don't see anything that says a map restriction? just says it covers both sides for those who fought in Mortain.

[river jackal]

PHL is 1 big open field, with literally 0 cover, you move 3 mgs send you straight to God, atleast Kursk (the by far worst Russian map) has a massive trench network and there are minor hills to actually be able to move around

[mellow knoll]

Believe it or not even after the changes to PHL people still manage to get their tanks stuck. Just their own fault at this point lmao

[pine ember]

What would you say is the worst map?

[mellow knoll]

El Alamein, by far for me

[river jackal]

PHL by far, although Hill 400 is a distant 2nd place

[mellow knoll]

Never had any enjoyable games on the african maps

I guess that just comes to personal preference tho

[desert owl]

Confirmed

[river jackal]

try tanking and reconing, its always a fun time in Africa with those classes

[pine ember]

Might be controversial, but I dont like Foy that much

[mellow knoll]

Ye I'd never play them as infantry. It's trash.

[pine ember]

Only the town area there is somewhat playable

[slate canopy]

I'd say Driel or Remagen is my least favorite... but I've noticed the ones I enjoy the most are Russian 😅

[desert owl]

I only like it on defense when you’re getting bum rushed on point

[river jackal]

tobruk tho, especially in the southern 2/3 of the map is a really solid area

[pine ember]

Oh yea Driel and Remagen are bad too

[mellow knoll]

Honestly Remagen is only goated when I command which is funny

[slate canopy]

Driel is more tolerable... but my god, I don't remember the last time I played Remagen.

[mellow knoll]

I get nothing but wins on commanding that map

[pine ember]

Best ones are Carentan, Kharkov and Hill for me

[mellow knoll]

Not lost in 2 years

[pine ember]

Driel just feels empty

[river jackal]

Driel is probably one of the better maps in the game, you can cross the river, while Remagen, you get stuck on the bridge, you're cooked, especially as recon, you got to absolutely full send it across that bridge or arty gonna diddle you for 90 minutes

[desert owl]

Is Remagen “Get the hell out of Dodge?”

[mellow knoll]

Carentan ftw.

[pine ember]

I totally forgot Driel, played it like 2 times

[pine ember]

Close with SMDM, but Carentan takes the cake

[slate canopy]

also been a LONG time since I played Mortain.

[mellow knoll]

Hell yeah.

[river jackal]

Remagen is the bridge with hill, Driel is the bridge with the pretty tulips

[pine ember]

Stalingrad and Kursk are fine too

[pine ember]

Mortain is alright but too bushy and empty

[desert owl]

Ppreciate you, not quite what I’m asking tho

[nova pivot]

Driel is good

[river jackal]

that map has so many bush campers holy f u c k, you gotta be like 3 grids away from point to not get bush shot

[desert owl]

I like a nice bush

[slate canopy]

Kursk, Kharkov, Carentan, Stalingrad are probably my top... Other maps, can be hit or miss depending on the match going.

[desert owl]

Carentan is Top 3 for sure

[river jackal]

can we all agree Utah and Omaha Beach suck a s s , like probably some of the worst maps in the game

[desert owl]

Omaha is a pain

[slate canopy]

I only dislike it for US Offensive/German Defense.

[pine ember]

Omaha is alright in warfare

[slate canopy]

It can be SOO frustrating.

[pine ember]

Utah is just uhhhh

[azure sable]

Hi, someone knows how to change the game languaje in game pass pc version?

[desert owl]

I love German defense, it is home

[pine ember]

It doesnt have anything

PHL has ambience, thats what Driel and Utah lack

[desert owl]

Xbox launcher game properties?

[azure sable]

HLL game hud

[river jackal]

honestly we need some maps from the Italian or Balkan fronts

[slate canopy]

we are getting Eastern Front later this year.

[desert owl]

Add “[Internationalization]
Culture=en” to engine.ini

[river jackal]

when that drops i may conveniently have a cold that day, especially if i manage to get my streaming setup going

[azure sable]

I cant find engine.ini

[slate canopy]

No PTE yet for it, but I'm sure once they roll out tomorrow's 17.1 update, they'll be working on some bug fixes from the update then that map?

[azure sable]

in confog folder there are two files crash report and wingdk

[slate canopy]

speaking of, 13 hours til update

[azure sable]

In wingdk there are two files, gameusesettings and input

Tried to paste [internationalization] in gameuserseetings file but desn't work

[desert owl]

Add a file named engine.ini there

[azure sable]

ok

[desert owl]

Then set to read only and save

[azure sable]

done

ok in that file i only paste the two command lines?

[desert owl]

Should be good, hopefully

[covert elbow]

… and HLL isn’t more janky?

[river jackal]

HLL always runs well and doesnt have any jank i find

[covert elbow]

100%. Unlockables should be map locked but DLC should be avaliable on all maps or have equivalents that get unlocked for individual maps/ fronts

[covert elbow]

Okay so like

You’re trolling me right?

[desert owl]

I can back that, but we don’t have enough unlockables tbh

[river jackal]

not at this moment

[covert elbow]

Yep yep

The game went so in on DLC that we only get free DLC or uniforms that should be unlockables that are instead DLC

The Red Devils being a huge point

[covert elbow]

Okay then I’m sorry but your just incorrect about S44 m being janky and HLL not being janky

Cause this game is basically unfinished

[desert owl]

It feels like a fairly polished core to me at the moment

[river jackal]

Squad 44? absolutely i agree, that game needs like another year minimum holy f u c k

[desert owl]

Nah, they need to take that game off the store

[covert elbow]

Everyone thinks that until they actually look at the games insides

As I’ve said, the game is as wide as an ocean but deep as a puddle

[desert owl]

Yeaa, I heard it’s a jumbled mess lol from previous devs

[covert elbow]

No. HLL

At least S44 has a consistent gameplay philosophy and development

[desert owl]

We got free look tho🕺

[covert elbow]

HLL is an amalgamation of concepts, ideas, and philosophy’s that don’t work

[covert elbow]

That’s buggy and janky haha

Don’t get me wrong, I’m super glad we have it

[river jackal]

idk, the concept is run at MG, die, repeat

[covert elbow]

But the fact that it was made in a devs spare time abd then released without any fixing or polish tells a lot about HLLs development

[covert elbow]

That’s not what I’m talking about here

I’m talking about how it wants to be a realistic MilSim and a hardcore casual battlefield clone at the same time

[azure sable]

Doesn't work 😦

[river jackal]

yeah, some guns will just 1 tap you while some you'll have to put a mag into a dude for him to die

[desert owl]

Hmm, I’ll do more research. That’s probably just a steam and epic fix

[covert elbow]

That’s hit reg. The actual probelm is different

[azure sable]

thanks, Epic and Steam ver has their solutions but i can't find one for xbox pc

[desert owl]

Windows language region and Xbox app settings is all I’m seeing

[covert elbow]

The issue with 1 tapping rifles is that the weapons have little to no recoil, are super easy to use, and you get basically unlimited ammo since you have so much and get full refill on death

That’s why medic will still be useless. Unless you get a ammo penalty for death medic won’t matter

[azure sable]

yeah there are in the same languaje and region

[desert owl]

Where is it set to?

Try UK or US

[azure sable]

I'm tying to chage to spanish

[desert owl]

Ahhh, set to Mexico, Spain, or where is best for you. May have to verify files or reinstall afterwards

[azure sable]

Thanks, I'm downloading all the spanish langs

[desert owl]

Muy Bueno

[azure sable]

muchas gracias

[tall kettle]

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[wind shore]

What’s maintenance I forgot

[slate canopy]

"Sometimes, we take the servers down in order to perform maintenance. We might be patching software for security issues, updating operating systems or drivers, or installing new hardware, for example." Or adding new stuff.

[wind shore]

Thank you!

Anybody there 😅

Am I alone

Yes pines are very strange persons… @slate canopy

They are big , and scary ( cause they are ancient )

[slate canopy]

Definitely are!

[wind shore]

Finally cosmetics are coming with new helmets and faces

And it coming in pack

This guy is from Mexico, who is ranger platoon

And 2nd and 5th Ranger

[slate canopy]

17.1 update tomorrow 🙌

[wind shore]

«Also could be uniform of rangers , which fought in Omaha landing in Dog White sector»

#1360446754494873732 message

https://discord.com/channels/316459644476456962/1360446754494873732

[nova pivot]

The truth is that I really want to see what it brings, especially the bipod and the free mode.

[wind shore]

Also maybe a helmet with ♠️ with wire?

[slate canopy]

I wish they would tease or spoil a tiny bit 🫣

[nova pivot]

You know what I want to see a teaser for? The Stalingrad rework.

[wind shore]

It was in dev brief some screenshots

[nova pivot]

Or the new map of the eastern front

[wind shore]

Can’t wait

I really trying to count how many PTEs coming before the next update 😅🤣

Was checking how many PTE was in the last updates

Before the new maps were coming in the PTE

For example 16.1

16.3 etc

[slate canopy]

We had 17.

Then we had 2 PTEs, one for the gamemodes/new smaller maps, one was for the medic/machinegun stuff for 17.1

now 17.1. We still need a PTE for the new map

[wind shore]

We had 2 already?

[slate canopy]

yup

[wind shore]

Yes I’ve seen that it was only 16.3 maximum

In the last update 16

And it was update 17 after

Before was 15.6 or I can’t remember the number

Or 14.7 if I’m not mistaken

[slate canopy]

14.8

[wind shore]

So we will know it in December

Until the January

I count December cause it’s the last month of the year

Now - June 🤣😅 why time is passing so long when you wait the games or updates lol 😁

Those small updates btw makes it more interesting

You are not became boring when you getting just small updates like DLC

[slate canopy]

That's when you keep yourself busy with other games 😉

[tall kettle]

❕** STEAM MAINTENANCE NOW ENDING** ❕
Tuesdays 3PM-6PM PDT
Tuesdays 6PM-9PM EST
Tuesdays 10PM-3AM GMT
Wednesdays 8AM-11AM AEST

Steam maintenance has now ended but some issues may still remain until a game restart

• EAC Notifications
• False Bans
• No Servers Showing
• Player Level Resets

[slate canopy]

awww @visual niche Its over 😦

[wind shore]

Will there be new uniforms with the update tonight?

[modest panther]

Yes

[wind shore]

Oh! Cool! I haven’t seen anyone mention them so I was curious. Do you know what they are???

[modest panther]

https://store.steampowered.com/app/3768610/Hell_Let_Loose__Operation_Overlord_Units/

Steam

Hell Let Loose - Operation Overlord Units

Operation Overlord Units

Fight throughout Normandy with the Operation Overlord Units DLC.…

Release Date

Jun 25, 2025

[wind shore]

Radical!

[desert ledge]

Instant buy.

[analog apex]

I would buy... if they made the 3 cosmetic presets to be set/bound to each map individually and not just 3 presets for all maps generally we have now. I just know I won't be wasting any time to be switching uniform sets during the match.

[covert elbow]

They also look off

That ranger uniform is grody

They also threw it with the “operation overlord” name since there’s a ton more uniforms to add to be overlord specific

Would have loved to get a free dlc or unlockable with a us uniform that also has the gas sleeve and rubberized gas mask bag

[modest panther]

Yeah me too gonna hit the artillery with the Luftwaffe uniform

[analog apex]

And then there is the still-unsolved problem of the game resetting all the settings including cosmetic presets (especially but not limited to after the game crashes), unless one makes a backup or read-only mode of the config file.

Like... why would anybody who would be aware of the bad stuff buy those?

They keep releasing DLCs without fixing that bug and without making the preset manager convenient. Doesn't make sense.

[kindred rock]

BAD COMPANY NEEDS SEEDING

[analog apex]

Yep, as do many other community servers 😏 . But then it should be posted in#pc-seeding-help or #console-seeding-help , not here 😉 .

[covert elbow]

Man

I really want to start a MilSim lmao

Don’t think anyone wants to join them though. 99% of the groups I see in this game are all comp kiddies

[pine ember]

Ew

They look so bad

Why cant they make basic looking DLC that fit everywhere like in 2021 anymore?

The Stahlhelm just looks like a weird SSh36, their faces look off, and the uniforms as a whole look waxy. And the ROA uniform is just out of place

[analog apex]

the faces look off ever since they touched them tbh. - I liked the old looks better

the new ones are like... washed out or how to put it

[pine ember]

Yes

[wind shore]

It’s looks ok, faces

And it’s good that we getting new faces

They looks real and aesthetically, faces. I would say this is the best

[analog apex]

they looked more real before though imo

[wind shore]

We need faces DLC pack, cause we need to mix all faces cause simply we have 12 faces on current size of the team - 50

To don’t repeat them, or maybe 1 free pack of faces for newbies and 1 other faces DLC pack

Make it at least above 20+ faces at the moment

[analog apex]

more faces would be nice... including some variations of shaving status

[wind shore]

They all shaved, if it’s not specifics like marines

[analog apex]

that's the thing... I would for example on Foy have some unshaved face

[wind shore]

Mostly who didn’t shaved it were marines

[analog apex]

I meant not shavign because of the condition of this or that combat

[wind shore]

In most of cases

[wind shore]

I think in Foy they had an ability to shave

It’s home territory there they were deployed

[analog apex]

they had the ability but sure not all were doing it

and even regardless the operation/fight

[wind shore]

It would seems weird cause in most of cases they shaved

It was a rule

[analog apex]

nobody wants woodcutter beards here man idk what's the problem

would love variations that just don't look like freshly shaved

just a subtle non-shaved state is all I meant

because all our soldier faces look like babyFaces right now

fresh out of the barber shop 😄

[wind shore]

No , it’s not)

It looks like soldiers from the battlefield

They looks like directly from the battle

[analog apex]

ok... so out of the barber shop and then went though a bit of mud then xD
the point stands that all are fully shaved

and the Marines argument... are are not talking just about the US faction here

[wind shore]

They have faces hardened in the battle

And like it looks so cool

[analog apex]

I don't care about that - that's beside the point here, I am talking about them being fully shaved

[wind shore]

Yes how it was, on most of photos you also will see that they shaved

It looks real to photos and on most of photos you see them shaved

Maybe you are about Cossacks , or some guys where it was their national haircut to have beard, they little bit broke this rule

[analog apex]

here's a random photo I ran into in 5 seconds... a guy in the middle https://cdn.theatlantic.com/thumbor/HeWKSrs_EZ2WlibaRtF8E-_4Gss=/900x613/media/img/photo/2011/10/world-war-ii-the-allied-invasion-of-europe/w17_00000001/original.jpg

[wind shore]

It’s the guy from new DLC!

He is from Rangers platoon and he was Mexican
Yes he has accurate moustaches!

[analog apex]

😄

doens't look Mexican to me but whatever xD

[wind shore]

He is southern

He couldn’t be anywhere , that’s the most possible in US army in that time that he was from Mexico

[analog apex]

whatever the case is, whatever faction and whatever unit - not all men were fully shaved at all times which is something you seem to be fighting for whatever unknown reason to me

they didn't shave every day, right?

like... right?

[wind shore]

Yeah what I’m talking about .. it was some national features - for example has the certain style of moustaches

[wind shore]

Shaved cause was the rule

[analog apex]

I guess they forgot to say that rule to the guy on the photo 😏

I bet they court-martialed him afterwards for it

[wind shore]

Moustaches he has, cause some national units could wear national haircuts ( beards ) cause it was their old style, Cossacks also wore beard always, cause it were from old centuries that they had this beard

And they got the permission to keep it

Cause it’s national feature - wear a beard

[cyan saddle]

I think you're missing the point

[wind shore]

Marines didn’t shaved cause was no possibility

[analog apex]

Battle of the Bulge photo - what do you see? (the one in front and then one behind him) https://stephenambrosetours.com/site/wp-content/uploads/2021/12/US-POWs-Battle-of-the-Bulge.jpg

[wind shore]

It’s short moustache

[pine ember]

No

[pine ember]

We dont need a DLC pack

[analog apex]

this one as well, right? 😄 https://luxembourg.public.lu/en/society-and-culture/history/battle-bulge/_jcr_content/root/root-responsivegrid/content-responsivegrid/sections-responsivegrid/section_top/col2/image.coreimg.jpeg/1726125617265/ardennes1944-cover-mnhm.jpeg

just another battle of the bulge photo

[wind shore]

Seems weird with beard , idk why he didn’t shaved

Maybe it’s mostly excluding from the rule

Or he had scars and wanted to hide them

[analog apex]

or he simply didn't shave in there the same as surely many others

you are assuming very subjectively here

it can be whatever

[wind shore]

We need more 1, we have lack of faces

[pine ember]

No, we dont

[wind shore]

We have so a few faces for the big team size

[pine ember]

You barely even see the faces or even the uniforms they are wearing

[nova pivot]

Keep in mind that during the Battle of the Bulge the American army had supply and communication problems.

[pine ember]

So what?

[nova pivot]

That's probably why they look like that in those photos.

[pine ember]

Better give us real new content

[analog apex]

I wouldn't ofc go into such extreme as the bearded guy on my last photo, just something inbetween that wouldn't look like freshly shaved

[analog apex]

exactly

[finite berry]

Give medics option to shave when

[analog apex]

I am sure they were happy when they managed to do more important human needs, than shaving

[wind shore]

😅

[wind shore]

In hard conditions yes

[analog apex]

my point finally delivered?

[wind shore]

In Stalingrad it was possibly for Germans , that they didn’t shaved , cause they were cut of supplies

Of course it wasn’t wood cutter

I would say : marines didn’t shaved and in hard conditions

[pine ember]

Marines did, sailors didnt

[wind shore]

And what I know exactly - Cossacks wore beards and they had the permission to have beard and don’t follow this rule , cause it was since old centuries this style

It was out of rule but with the permission

Sailors yes

[analog apex]

this discussion is being too long and derailing from the original point... there were unshaved soldiers in certain conditions and available faces selection should be reflecting it... simple as that

anyway not that much important topic for me so I am outta here... the game has bigger problems than faces

[finite berry]

You mean it faces bigger problems?

[analog apex]

nice one hehe

[nova pivot]

It should depend on the map, a US soldier before D-Day should be shaved, as should the Axis soldiers defending the beach since they were in garrison and not in combat.

[wind shore]

Yes that’s the thing that if they were deployed so in France they mostly shaved

[nova pivot]

But in Stalingrad or Foy if it is something else, they are long and hard battles

[analog apex]

just as should a paratrooper NOT be present in the D-day landing boat... and yet there are

[nova pivot]

That's why cosmetics should depend on the map.

[wind shore]

Paratroopers can’t be sadly at the current moment

[analog apex]

I wish that was the case

[wind shore]

The ability

[pine ember]

Guys, I think you are all able to live even when you skin doesnt have a beard

[wind shore]

I agree

[pine ember]

Just leave it as it is

[wind shore]

It should be locked 🔐 for certain maps

[analog apex]

no argument from me there

[nova pivot]

But I'm keeping myself busy while the update arrives.

[pine ember]

Yes, thats why subfactions would be better than DLC skins

[wind shore]

We need some Mexican guys for US faction and Spanish for Germans !

And new uniforms of 101st and 82 AB

[analog apex]

no black German females? 😄

[pine ember]

No

[nova pivot]

With prosthetic arms

[pine ember]

We have them...

[wind shore]

We also need maybe Italians for African maps

[analog apex]

but without arm patches

[pine ember]

What we "need" is actual new content, reworks and bug fixes

[analog apex]

we do have just a generic paratrooper uniform that is unit-less

[pine ember]

That is the best solution

[wind shore]

They were fought near Rostov, in outskirts, black male soldiers from German side. After in Tunisia.

[analog apex]

I wish I could have the 101st armpatch on my para uniform

[pine ember]

There were no black German soldiers

[wind shore]

82 AB also would be cool

[analog apex]

yep, but I am a fan of 101st (not saying neither unit was more important than the other or anything in that matter ofc)

[wind shore]

We need Spanish and French uniform with patch and helmets

They fought on the EF

[pine ember]

No

[wind shore]

Croatians

[analog apex]

the whole cosmetic system could use a major overhaul...

[nova pivot]

I don't complain if they include Spaniards.

[wind shore]

We need them. Anyways it doesn’t change much if they fought on the north direction

We can for example have winter uniform and helmet + face

[nova pivot]

But it's a delicate matter because we've spent money, they would have to offer refunds and they would lose money etc.

[finite berry]

It's funny how you say "We need" when you actually mean "I want".

[analog apex]

yep and the further they add, the more difficult it becomes

[wind shore]

XD

[analog apex]

but for sure as hell I would buy a DLC where I could add the 101st armpatch to my uniform

and a rank patch ofc

[pine ember]

Subfactions it is

[wind shore]

82 AB also could be cool

101st AB, 82 AB , we have 6 maps where they were fighting

[pine ember]

Not as DLC

Subfaction yes, DLC no

[wind shore]

And M1A1 we need it too

[analog apex]

all major ones at least would be
one thing's for sure... for now it's a mess - now with the new DLC it is possible to have ranger uniform also with the arm patch... but no other units on their respective uniforms

bloody mess

[wind shore]

And better the case - to have paratroop jumping

[finite berry]

Who is "we"?

[wind shore]

You meant only rangers?

[wind shore]

Me and my self

[finite berry]

Thanks; now, use the English language accordingly and say "I want" instead

[analog apex]

those and some other on the helmets... but helmets only

[wind shore]

It could be nice uniform - 101st and 82AB

[pine ember]

We have them

[nova pivot]

I wouldn't pay for a uniform whose only difference is a patch.

[wind shore]

Rangers? It was helmet? We have helmet. It’s 2nd and 5th

New helmets

[analog apex]

yep but the new DLC is having the jacket too... along with the armpatch

[wind shore]

So what’s wrong with it

Can’t get it

[analog apex]

man, you are exhausting me so much 😄

[wind shore]

With out patches

[pine ember]

So what?

[wind shore]

It could be with patch as DLC

[analog apex]

I will better say "nothing is wrong" so I can skip the rest of the pointless sub-discussion that's even outside the main topic xD

[pine ember]

No

[ancient crest]

@vapid yarrow >>>> @oblique epoch is spam friend requesting.

[pine ember]

No, no and no

[wind shore]

We have SME already

And SMD, and PHL

[pine ember]

And we have Airborne skins, so we have everything you want

Its perfectly fine

[finite berry]

All of us

[wind shore]

Agree

Cool that it’s pack finally, not a single one DLC

[pine ember]

Cool would be to get actual new content like Subfactions or a class rework ;D

[wind shore]

We have

Like subfactions - you have DAK

[pine ember]

More of them

SS, Fallschirmjäger, Airborne,...

[wind shore]

Where which maps

It could be new vehicles also

[nova pivot]

Or pacific

[wind shore]

And it requires parachute jumping to be a sub faction

Spacific

[pine ember]

Carentan, Mortain, Driel

[pine ember]

No

[pine ember]

First fix the game in its current state

[nova pivot]

But... "We need " pacific

🏖️

[pine ember]

Ah ok

[oak current]

🌜🏖️🌛

Spacific

[worthy charm]

https://tenor.com/view/haha-gumichan-bird-no-laughing-gif-5128531988218293677

[wind shore]

In Squad 44 it is Guadalcanal, but as I know it were skulls on sticks in Guadalcanal and most brutal battle in Pacific was there

it was musical instrument or pipe, which Japanese used it

[finite berry]

https://tenor.com/view/streched-gif-21513890

Squad 44 mentioned

[nova pivot]

🥺

[wind shore]

Battle of Guadalcanal was the brutalist battle of pacific theatre

And so bloody battle

💀Guadalcanal it was hard for both sides and impossible to survive this battle

[finite berry]

Why were there survivors, then

[wind shore]

It were , but look at the character of this intense battle, I doubt that it’s really was easy

Stack in the jungle it’s hell together with snipers on trees

Like Stalingrad in pacific was Guadalcanal

[pine ember]

Guadalcanal and Stalingrad were completely different kinds of battles

[wind shore]

Yes, those hard conditions were close to it

[thin scarab]

Reset the counter twice

[oak current]

[wind shore]

Stalingrad - very cold winter, Guadalcanal - jungles with infinite battle

[pine ember]

No, not really

Both were bloody and long, but they were vastly different

[wind shore]

I don’t know

I think Guadalcanal was the worst during Pacific theatre

[pine ember]

Yep, but subjective opinions arent the same as historical facts

[smoky hemlock]

What new change could medic use

[fluid pawn]

Patch 17.1 is LIVE NOW! Dev is live now too 🙂 Dev Brief #205 | Patch 17.1 Changelog | QOL Changes

[pale schooner]

Whats new with the medic role?

[ocean sage]

The most major things in my opinion are full health on revive and the ability to call for a medic

there's a few other small things

[fluid pawn]

All changes can be found in here 🙂 Dev Brief #205 | Patch 17.1 Changelog | QOL Changes

[wraith thistle]

When are the new Tank rebalances coming out? 🤔
Hopefully see some more tank squads on Fog maps now! before it was really challenging

[fluid pawn]

Armour updates coming later this year 🙂

[past veldt]

@fluid pawn what is the rationale behind changing OP mechanics for the church on SME?

The church is already in an open space with few methods of routing into it, and so now the centre piece of the map will have zero spawns in or around it making the strong point essentially void of players

[round mesa]

What does "Additional Upcoming 17.1 Features" mean? Does it mean it is not yet implemented?

[fluid pawn]

These are all features that have come with the update. Upcoming should be removed. Will get on that 🫡

[nova pivot]

Ask a question for tomorrow's QA, I don't like the decision either.

[fluid pawn]

https://discord.com/channels/316459644476456962/1385203186192748574 be sure to ask any questions today for tomorrow's Q&A

[snow pond]

Good patch. Changing the medic loadouts was sorely needed!

[sturdy quarry]

anyone else find it weird that the german pistol medic gets 4 smokes but all the other pistol medics get 6?

[snow pond]

Good job Ben and team

[glad verge]

Surely dismantling friendly nodes wont be abused

[past veldt]

Honestly I don't care enough to create a thread on this because these consistently poor gameplay decisions have killed any enjoyment I have for the game. I just wanted to know why the developers make major changes to the most popular maps without explanation to the playerbase or seemingly engaging with experienced players

[fluid pawn]

Looking forward to asking the devs any questions you all of you may have tomorrow.
If you have any questions you want answered be sure to submit them ASAP into #1385203186192748574 as I'm sifting through these today for the livestream

[past veldt]

But if I can't get these answers, I really won't bother to tune into Q&A sessions on the off-chance I get a response

I will assume the answer is:

'it makes it consistent with the philosophy of not putting structures inside of buildings'

And realise the people making these game design decisions truly do not understand how the maps flow and play out

[frigid glade]

Is dx12 support available in this update?

[fluid pawn]

Yep!

[viscid socket]

Nice to see the patches still horde disk space and then release it once it's patched.

[gusty lichen]

really nice patch full of nice things, but adding 1 measly magazine is not what people meant when they said medic needed more ammo 😂

I simply do not see the pick rate changing much when people run out of ammo in 3 minutes instead of 2 and a half minutes

[tacit bane]

Just updated… And several private servers are showing offline, mine included. It’s a bit frustrating when this particular thing is something we pay for😬

[gusty lichen]

oh this happens every time, i don't think it takes long for the stuff to pop back up

[fluid pawn]

I've just chased the devs on this as it was a weird one, and this should not have been in the brief. Going in and removing it now 🫡

[analog apex]

Medic is en-route / Medic can't make it
nice QoL there

now... off to check if the reported problematic bipodding spots (in the new system already) have been fixed after the PTE...

ofc... no they weren't

comon devs be serious

[solar slate]

Make mediums worthwhile by increasing their turret traversal speed immensely and giving them all smoke pls
And fix the awful turn rates on British tanks

[sturdy quarry]

@fluid pawn i have just checked ingame and german pistol medic has 6 smokes like the rest, not 4