mess-hall

[analog apex]

according to the telegram #telegrams message it is today, in 7 hours just as Jairion says (in 6h38m to be exact)

oh man don't even remind us... now all I can remember when hearing those words, is the old bad U15 trailer for the objective mode 😄

but yeah... happy 6th of June!

[solemn slate]

Dang, sorry man 😂

[wind shore]

?

It say tomorrow in telegrams

[analog apex]

and the telegram was posted... yesterday

which makes the yesterday's tomorrow... today

[wind shore]

Ah

It is community event

Right today

[analog apex]

not too long to wait at least 🙂

[worthy charm]

https://tenor.com/view/is-it-tho-really-jess-claire-is-it-though-is-it-really-gif-16718943

[analog apex]

Today, tomorrow, Toyota

[analog apex]

for the Australians it may be our tomorrow heh

[wind shore]

I’m not Australian I’m from Inhabitant islands

[worthy charm]

Not yet, give the upside down people another 6 and a half hours

-# (obviously depending where you live, I took the Canberra time)

[wind shore]

Today would be Brecourt Manor also?

Cool gonna try it

[analog apex]

I assume there's gonna be everything - Brecourt, El Alamein and Danzig Post Office.

The devBrief mentions they want the players to see how it looks like when unfinished yet too.

[wind shore]

👌

[fluid pawn]

<t:1749218400:t> <t:1749218400:R> until it kicks off

The event on <t:1749315600:F> is an organised PTE event being run by SoulSniper & the DraftHaus guys. This has been organised so that we can ensure full lobby matches for those joining the PTE which is the most important thing 🙂

[fluid pawn]

The PTE will be running all 3 maps. The way it will work is that the 25v25 maps will have their own serperate server meaning that Danzig and Brecourt will have their own, and El Alamein will have its own

[silk igloo]

i feel like we're gonna find the sweat meta in 20 minutes and break the whole mode

[fluid pawn]

It's going to be fun to watch

ahahah

Actually really interested to see what people think of this style of mode. It's obviously a super early prototype, however will be good to get people's thoughts on how this idea could be transferred to the main game

[nova pivot]

25 v 25 🤮🤮🤮

[fluid pawn]

Don't worry, the team know that 25v25 is not it for everyone ahah. This is just a testing enviroment, and the more feedback we can get the better ❤️

[pine ember]

It isnt a bad idea for people that dont have the time to play a full 1 and a half hour match

[silk igloo]

Tobruk obj looks pretty hard for the attackers, but we'll see. With only 2 HQs for the defenders and no arty, it might be easier to sweep the map. Crossing that airfield to Plane 3 and 4 looks impossible without taking the H-line

[pine ember]

I hope it becomes a good and often played smaller gamemode since almost no one with a full time job, uni, family, friends and a housested has the time to play a long match

[worthy charm]

Altberg writes!! Everyone hide!!!

[oak current]

When I tried El Alamein last year, it was quite fun and close. We locked up the place with barbed wire as defenders..but with the enemy spreading smoke anywhere, a guy was able to go thorugh and plant TNT on the last plane.
Was able to defuse it and be the hero of that moment.

[oak current]

Oi!

[silk igloo]

A halftrack could get through after the enemy tanks and AT guns are gone, but it's 300 fuel for a try. Looks like the vehicle limits are the same as skirmish, so it's more viable? idk

[oak current]

not gonna lie, I dont remember if we had any vehicles back then
Then again, mostly cause I played inf on plane defense

guess we'll see today how the vehicle situation is

[wooden cloud]

I second this

[runic gorge]

when do the pte drop

[pine ember]

I think 15:00

s.t. of course

[worthy charm]

#mess-hall message

[hollow shard]

Fart noises

[knotty aspen]

@fluid pawn hey Ben, any chance we can get some more info on uniforms for the next PTEs briefs? Would be nice to be take a look at them since console players can't take part in the PTE yet. By the way, any news on that?

[oak current]

Uniforms for PTEs? Wut

[marble meteor]

I'm hoping we get the polish forces 🙏🏻

[knotty aspen]

Some pics of it in the briefs

[placid axle]

how would a 25v25 work

[knotty aspen]

I saw that in the 17.1 the Rangers and a few new german uniforms were added

[oak current]

aaaah those, I remember. Forgot they had them in the PTE last week

[viscid grail]

Does anyone know why my payed for skins randomly keep disappearing?

[marble meteor]

PTE hasn't come out yet?

[cyan saddle]

It's out

It seems like if you downloaded last week's PTE you don't have to update anything though

[snow pond]

We are particularly keen to hear your thoughts on:
-A 25 v 25 environment

[snow pond]

screenshots?

[noble plume]

Sounds perfect for seeding!

[knotty aspen]

I'll dm you

[oak current]

Dis guy

[snow pond]

already confirmed as NO.

[coarse grail]

is the new gametype in rotation now or what timezone is it dropping

[cyan saddle]

It is available on Steam under the Public Testing app

[coarse grail]

there's only 4 servers, figure they would be all playing the new gametype but guess not haha

[oak current]

its 2 public servers and has been a few minutes till it started
Its a PTE, not someone selling Crack

demand is not gonna break through the light barrier

[grizzled kiln]

Or, is it ?? 😄

[covert elbow]

Ah yes, that’s what the HLL players want. SEEDING MODES THAT ONLY LARGE COMMUNITYS WILL USE

[coarse grail]

https://tenor.com/view/chappelles-show-dave-chappelle-crack-drugs-high-gif-16300565

[grizzled kiln]

https://tenor.com/view/perfection-perfect-michael-fassbender-magneto-x-men-first-class-gif-2260686001358167676

[covert elbow]

Oh god that looks awful

[oak current]

of course it does, its a PTE

[covert elbow]

We want actual new big game modes or better yet, changes to the existing modes to make them better. And luckily I think that’s what this PTE is. Pretty sure they said their going to canabalize this mode into objective

[covert elbow]

The uniforms don’t change from PTE to live

That uniform and helmet are going to stay looking bad

[snow pond]

Adding destructive objectives into Offensive would be good, where it makes sense to ofc.

other than that I dont feel it has a place.

50v50 only.

[covert elbow]

Love to get some varying objectives where a team needs to destroy some emplacements, capture documents, etc

[oak current]

good thing that they do a PTE, so people can test the concept of objective-focused goals

[covert elbow]

Yep

I’m… well I can’t say excited anymore

[coarse grail]

so it's not a new gametype, but just updated skirmish?

[covert elbow]

I’m interested to see what they take and use with this PTE

[humble moat]

I am mostly just interested in better Stalingrad, my favorite map

[covert elbow]

It’s not a new game mode. It’s a “test” mode

[nova pivot]

Me too

[covert elbow]

What objective mode is not:

• ⁠Final content that will be released in Hell Let Loose in the near future
• ⁠A mode that could be released after addressing 25 v 25 player count issue
• ⁠Finished mechanic logic such as: tanks and bombing runs being unable to destroy the planes in El Alamein being unrealistic
• ⁠Completed maps/modes in terms of visual fidelity - Danzig in particular is still in early blockout
• ⁠A mode that prioritizes territory control in order to win - The 2nd phase of Danzig is the only time that a Capture Point is the objective
• ⁠Work that has come at the expense of the 2025 roadmap - Since the direction was pivoted back in 2023 these maps have had only one person working on the prototypes

[coarse grail]

right so it's just skirmish

[covert elbow]

People really need to read the dev briefs

[nova pivot]

@fluid pawn when news about stalingrad?🥺

[covert elbow]

4 months when it’s in early stages

[nova pivot]

You are not Ben

[covert elbow]

I’m his alt account

[gray garden]

Most of the info that can be was shared already in the dev briefs

[nova pivot]

🤯

[finite berry]

You are asking much of them :b

[gray garden]

https://tenor.com/view/reading-the-paper-newspaper-relaxing-chilling-catching-up-on-the-news-gif-15849925

read it

[humble moat]

I am more excited about the physics and Stalingrad changes than any new game modes bc I like defending/attacking areas already

[covert elbow]

This is true

[nova pivot]

I know, but I want more.

[humble moat]

I can't wait for bipods to work better

Two things annoy me as a fairly regular machine gun player: not being able to place where I should be able to place, and placement sometimes causing basically 0 ability to move my weapon and look around

Really makes it hard sometimes bc you will find a great angle and it looks like your bipod will work, only for it not to, or to be heavily restricted

[coarse grail]

they should take this gamemode and do something like rush from BF, love rush haha

[pine ember]

All three are horrible

[worthy charm]

You hiding from me?

[humble moat]

What is the new German uniform?

[oak current]

Testing stuff for sunday event

[pine ember]

Luftwaffenfelddivision and a ROA uniform

[humble moat]

Got pics?

[pine ember]

So something that was barely used and is inaccurate on all maps

[pine ember]

No

[covert elbow]

ROA just makes no sense and Luftwaffe has the T17 thing of adding random s**t it doesn’t need

[pine ember]

The game needs anything but new uniforms

[covert elbow]

WHY DOES IT HAVE 2 RED CROSSES

[river sigil]

add imperator class titans

[humble moat]

Well I probably won't be buying anyway, I have the pea dot and oak leaf which I love

[pine ember]

ROA is just senseless

[covert elbow]

https://tenor.com/view/i-know-what-you-are-cat-sus-suspicious-cat-side-eye-cat-meme-gif-11842087146493734807

[pine ember]

Regular Feldgrau is just the best

[humble moat]

I enjoy wearing camo 😃

I also like matching my uniform to the map 😃

[pine ember]

No one needs a butchered German uniform a few Russians were wearing in the last months of the war

[pine ember]

Often it doesnt make a difference

Summer oak leaf would be good though

[humble moat]

On the contrary, pea dot on Kursk is OP

Blends in so well with the mud and grass

[normal fjord]

25 players on one side, 25 players on the other

[humble moat]

Oak leaf is also great on Remagen

[covert elbow]

https://tenor.com/view/predator-handshake-muscle-strong-man-gif-5783927

Matching uniforms to map is just the way to go

[polar prism]

Why the actual hell was Danzig added to the playtest?

[humble moat]

I always wear my white uniforms on snow maps 😃

[polar prism]

It doesn't even have any textures

Nothing

[humble moat]

Winter parka so my soldier doesn't get cold and die in his regular summer uniform

[pine ember]

I just wear the regular ones all the time, it fits the best always

[covert elbow]

It’s a test map to test a mode that was designed with the map in mind

It’s not planned to fully release

[pine ember]

And regular German Feldgrau is just the goat

[covert elbow]

Does no one read announcements???

[polar prism]

This wasn't even worth it man.. Have you seen the map?

[covert elbow]

The rolled up sleeves is also great

[pine ember]

Its pure drip

But reveals the arms

[polar prism]

They could've easily done Pavlov's house or something and make it the size of Ro2's Pavlov's house

[finite berry]

What is even ROA

[covert elbow]

Wish the “veteran” skin kept the same artistic style instead of being a weird M36 with a bandage and bad gear that’s permentally attached to it

[covert elbow]

Great for summer maps like Kursk

[finite berry]

https://tenor.com/view/wtff-cat-confused-orange-gif-25858653

[covert elbow]

And Normandy

[finite berry]

live T17 reaction

[pine ember]

A army of Russians that fought for Germany, but it was a very small army, barely had an impact and was raised in the last months of the war

So basically something we normally would expect from BFV, but not Hell let loose

[polar prism]

Literally why the heck was it added lol #ww2-history for those who haven't seen the map yet

[pine ember]

XDDDD

[finite berry]

very small
barely had an impact
last months of the war

Wunderwaffen program in a nutshell

[pine ember]

Yep

With the difference that the ROA was even more useless

[gray garden]

10/10, can actually shoot out of the windows in danzig comfortably. 🙏

[noble plume]

PTE stands for Public TEST Environment

[pine ember]

I think they want to appeal to all the guys yelling "BuT tHe GeRmAnS wErEnT oNlY gErMaNs"

[finite berry]

Should just add Hungarians smh

[pine ember]

Those had seperate equipment

[humble moat]

how do you get rolled up sleeves?

[pine ember]

Just add Nordic or Dutch forces, they were there since 1941, had German equipment, fought in many battles and actually had an impact

[pine ember]

DLC

[oak current]

to test the concept of objective-focused goals - as they mentioned in the dev briefs + telegrams

[covert elbow]

Silver Vanguard DLC. It also has a lazily done tanker jacket with 2nd armored on it

[polar prism]

This map is too early and shouldn't have been added

[covert elbow]

Oh and a helmet for the Germans

[polar prism]

They could've easily chose a different map and narrowed it to a focused area

E.g. Pavlov's house

[covert elbow]

ITS NOT BEING ADDED. ITS TO TEST A SCRAPPED GAME MODE HOW DO YOU NOT GET THIS

ITS IN THE DEV BRIEF

[polar prism]

No one's going to play it lol

[oak current]

the map was made around the same time they started working on objective mode before both things got scrapped...you want them to set up new maps with the objective mode and invest time - for something that might not see the day of light?

[worthy charm]

*pls

[covert elbow]

Okay I’m just done with this conversation for the day

[worthy charm]

There isnt a second P

[oak current]

this is to test out if people like the goal-focus of objectives. thats it. if people cant understand it, after multiple mentions, pointers...then good god.

[noble plume]

i got you

[gray garden]

bro thought the build with 4 live servers was hll main

[polar prism]

Yes, let's test out new game modes that so many people have been asking for

[oak current]

the amount of lashback that I have already seen, cause people couldnt be bothered to read stuff is insane

[finite berry]

What's wrong with trying out new stuff

[pine ember]

Hopefully we still get a shorter gamemode that is actually played, for all the people that dont have the time to play one and a half hours

[oak current]

dont worry, he only comes over here to advertise SQ44 from time to time and get people to move from hll to it - yet fails

[polar prism]

Well, maybe they could've put that effort into actually modifying a map like Pavlov's house rather than making a Skirmish mode

[finite berry]

Wait, I thought that was me

[oak current]

nono

[finite berry]

Imposter! Verrat!

[gray garden]

well to start, server owners would need to launch 50/64 player experiences.

[covert elbow]

It’s not meant to be played after this… it’s a playtest to see what they can use in other gamemodes…

[oak current]

eh you know what, ignore time. no point in seeing it

[covert elbow]

ITS A TEST MODE. WHY DOES NO ONE UNDERSTAND THIS

[finite berry]

Just don't waste time on it, Ninja xD

[pine ember]

Yep, but still something like it

[oak current]

cause people love to rage about stuff instead of reading text for 10 seconds

[covert elbow]

I really shouldn’t cause I’m starting to lose my mind

[pine ember]

I for sure understood it

[gray garden]

turn off discor.

[finite berry]

🫂

[covert elbow]

Is HLL really a metaphor for politics?

[pine ember]

I dont know how the others here feel, but its hard to find time for a game when you have to work and other duties to do

[polar prism]

yeah yeah I'm sure ya'll are loving the skirmish mode that people were begging for when it was added

[finite berry]

Can you please stop the rage bait

[finite berry]

It's not even good rage bait

[covert elbow]

Oh god it is bait

[polar prism]

I don't understand how this is bait

[finite berry]

And if it's not rage bait, please stop being stupid

Thanks

[pallid anvil]

This is very entertaining

[worthy charm]

Indeed

[polar prism]

They could've actually tested it on a smaller modified map instead

That's all I'm saying

[worthy charm]

You know what would be good ragebait, you little Berlin lover. 😏

[finite berry]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1165369525231947946/1357469841790865510/tenor.gif

[pine ember]

BÖRKEN!!!

[finite berry]

I love it

[worthy charm]

Germans assemble and take over the channel!!!

-# /s

[pine ember]

YES PLEASE

[finite berry]

Törken 🤝 B*rlin
Börken

[pine ember]

XDDDD

[covert elbow]

They should have just made the gamemode on the remagen bridge you guys don’t understand

[pine ember]

Its the tree

But the joke was coming so flat I first didnt underständ it myself

[polar prism]

Would've been better having it on the stalingrad map

[covert elbow]

Should have been on the Normandy beach

[pine ember]

There are more BÖRKEN too

[novel mantle]

tbh, he's right. The Danzig map is way too early in its build and no one's playing it.

I doubt it'll even see a full server

[gray garden]

It will during the community events/scrims coming up this weekend, I think

There's going to be a scrim from high level teams on all three test maps, so it should hopefully get some actionable feedback

[polar prism]

Yeah and personally I would've preferred testing it out in Grudinin's Mill, Pavlov's house, or the Brewer.

[gray garden]

Thanks for that devs, that's the best way to collect some worthwhile feedback, most people here will provide some vagueity about what state a PLAYTEST build is coming out at and won't bother to provide anything else.

[novel mantle]

Even if they decide to make a Danzig map in the final release, I don't think it would be a good idea

[pine ember]

Why not?

I think new settings could be pretty refreshing, like Poland, or Eastern Front 1941/42

[novel mantle]

This is my opinion, but I don't think small maps really fit in games like HLL

[pine ember]

Yes, makes sense

[novel mantle]

It's why I avoid playing the Skirmish mode, plus I rarely even see it

[cedar ore]

25 vs 25 just wont really be played

[novel mantle]

Plus, Danzig? It was defended by civilians, not soldiers.

[pine ember]

But still I think making a shorter gamemode would be good, more people would play it and you appeal to people like me that used to play the game regularly but stopped because we have duties with family or job

[pine ember]

Right

[novel mantle]

Just from a historical viewpoint.. wtf

[cedar ore]

as long as we still get the full 50 v 50 on danzig too

[pine ember]

Yep

[cedar ore]

havent read far enough so if its there i havent seen it yet

[novel mantle]

That's whats been said about the Skirmish mode - yet it's rarely even played anymore

[pine ember]

Or just cut the time down for a regular warfare game

[cedar ore]

yeah skirmish is basically untouched lmao

[pine ember]

Yep, because Skirmish feels cut down

But most people simply dont have the time to play one and a half hours in one match

[novel mantle]

I don't remember the last time I played a full game, I always leave in the middle of it

Or join half way in

[pine ember]

Thats also a possibility, but still not the ideal one

[cedar ore]

Damn I usually play like 2 matches lmao

[pine ember]

Yep, but I would assume many people barely have the time to do so

[novel mantle]

I'd rather play a server with 100 players and a full map than join a small skirmish map and play the full game

The full map gives the proper experience

[cedar ore]

Same here

One of the main selling points of hell let loose is its atmosphere

shrinking the game down gets rid of that

[novel mantle]

I don't have the time to play the full game, hence why I leave mid game.

Doesn't bother me at all

I do the same in Squad too

[novel mantle]

lol, I know why you're pushing for a map like that...

You used to play Red Orchestra 2

[polar prism]

🤣

Small map, was 1:1 scale, and it worked!

[covert elbow]

Danzig isn’t releasing as a map so we won’t be

[novel mantle]

If people love the map, it will be released

[covert elbow]

No?

It’s to much work for the single map

[novel mantle]

Didn't they say that in one of the telegrams?

[covert elbow]

They can’t make it logistically

[novel mantle]

Or videos

I swear I remember them saying that - they'll only use it as a test map to test the game mode but if the map is liked, they'll make it

[covert elbow]

They did they’d consider it. Which in dev speak is “it’s not happening”

[novel mantle]

Thier maps were amazing

[covert elbow]

Ngl red orchestra is what HLL wanted to be but failed miserably

[worthy charm]

Its nice to be able to test it.

[silk igloo]

i recall all combat distances in red orchestra being below 50 meters

[worthy charm]

We are at a point where I think its clear to all we wont get it or the polish anytime soon

[novel mantle]

Poland or Eastern Front 1941 wouldn't even be able to work in a game like HLL

[covert elbow]

Not to all…

[novel mantle]

With its current system - especially the tank system

[covert elbow]

Every system

[worthy charm]

AT rifles my beloved

[covert elbow]

The Germans are going to be rocking up with STG’s and MG42’s in 1941

Since we already have that front

[novel mantle]

Only Squad 44 could pull a proper Poland 1939 or Barbarossa map.

[covert elbow]

Stalingrad is in 1941

[polar prism]

Poland 1939 in S44 is a dream

[novel mantle]

I bet in HLL, the Polish TKS will somehow be able to magically hold 4 crew members 😂

[pine ember]

No

Its easy, for 1941, just remove MG42, StG, G43 and FG42, replace it with the G41, and for tanks, make only light and medium ones

It will mix up the gameplay

[covert elbow]

The map in HLL is 1941

[pine ember]

Something like Brody, Kyiv or Demyansk would be so good

[pine ember]

Stalingrad isnt in 1941.

[polar prism]

It's a 1942 map

[pine ember]

The Germans never reached the city until August 1942

1941 Red Army vs 1941 Wehrmacht is possible

[polar prism]

MKB 42(H) instead of the STG44!

[pine ember]

Only for assault lvl9

[polar prism]

Yeah, make it super rare

[pine ember]

But yes, it was still more common than the FG42

[polar prism]

And of course remove the panzerschreck and give the Germans an AT rifle

[pine ember]

Early to mid war settings are neglected even though they are very interesting

[pine ember]

Yep

[novel mantle]

And the god forsaken Luchs

[pine ember]

For Poland I'm sceptical, but 1941 could work

[pine ember]

Yes, Panzer II would be better

[novel mantle]

1941 wouldn't

[pine ember]

Why?

[novel mantle]

Based on their current tank system?

[pine ember]

Ah

[cedar ore]

Wdym

like what about it wouldn’t work

[novel mantle]

Which category will the KV-1 fall under?

[pine ember]

Just remove the heavies, the mass on both sides was medium and light tanks anyways

[novel mantle]

It's a heavy and will be classed as a heavy - meanwhile Germany didn't have heavies

[pine ember]

Not if there arent heavies at all

[novel mantle]

And what about the T-34? The Panzer 3 couldn't do jack against it

[pine ember]

It could, and especially in the game it wont be that different

[turbid meteor]

Give us 100vs100!

[pine ember]

T34 is overrated

[novel mantle]

Even in Squad 44, not sure if you played the 1941 Eastern Front mod,

It sucks

The T-34 and KV-1 are too op

[cedar ore]

cough cough “mod” doesn’t give me high hopes

[pine ember]

The steel was bad, there were no radios, the commander was the gunner at the same time,...

[pine ember]

And thats the problem

[novel mantle]

Problem is, in games they're modelled based on how it was on paper

[pine ember]

They were tough to break for sure, but they were never that op irl

[novel mantle]

They actually were really powerful

[pine ember]

Thats why I said dont add the KV1

[novel mantle]

Despite their problems

[cedar ore]

It’s not that deep ts is hell let loose 🥀

[nova pivot]

But were cool as hell t-34-85 ♥️

[novel mantle]

Poland 1939 would be the most balanced for an early war map

[cedar ore]

Guys I need MEGA realism in a game where I spawn from a table

[pine ember]

The Panzer III could destroy a T34 easily under the right circumstances

There is a good channel about it on YT

[pine ember]

I dont like them, I prefer German tanks

[cedar ore]

British tanks better tbh

Churchill my beloved

[pine ember]

Outdated tactic and too WW1 like

Their Cruisers were good though

[cedar ore]

Guys can we get the Sturmtiger please it would be so funny

[pine ember]

Oh god

Im happy we have the Tiger H1 in the game rather than the E

[cedar ore]

Just let them have one and if it blows up you don’t get it for the rest of the match fr

[pine ember]

Tiger H1 > Tiger E or B

[novel mantle]

forget about iiiit, just do a Poland 1939 instead

Would be balanced

[pine ember]

No

[pine ember]

For sure not, it would be worse than eastern front 1941

[novel mantle]

How?

[pine ember]

France 1940 is also possible, but we already have many France maps

[covert elbow]

It’s 1941 because of the dates on the map. It can’t be 42 because there’s no snow on the ground so it has to be November 1941

[pine ember]

Are we for sure talking about Stalingrad? Or Kharkov?

[covert elbow]

Just get rid of it completely and replace it with a captured PPSH

[novel mantle]

You forgot about french heavies, eh?
But how would Poland be worse than Russia 41? In terms of balance

[covert elbow]

Stalingrad, yep

[nova pivot]

Of course

[pine ember]

Polish barely had tanks, no SMG,...

[covert elbow]

Like I said if you look at the date the map says it is and then compare the landscape you can only get 1941

[nova pivot]

But tanks are cool as hell In general

[pine ember]

Panzer IV could take them out

[novel mantle]

You forgot about the 7TP

[pine ember]

Which never was there in large numbers

[pine ember]

No, that cant be

[novel mantle]

You know how many Panzer 3s and 4s there were?

[pine ember]

Yes

[novel mantle]

There were less than 90 Panzer 3s, and about 200 Panzer 4s

[pine ember]

*98

[covert elbow]

https://tenor.com/view/i-am-your-father-darth-vader-gif-13250196

[novel mantle]

The main bulk of the German army was made up of Panzer 1s and 2s

[pine ember]

I know

The difference is that the Polish barely had tanks at all

[novel mantle]

The Panzer 2 couldn't even penentrate a 7TP more than 300m away

[pine ember]

Or generally modern equipment

[pine ember]

Thats wrong

[novel mantle]

Yeah you're right, it was actually 250m, not 300

[pine ember]

Like I said, I have a very good channel on YT for those things, I can send it to you if you want

[novel mantle]

The ammo that the Panser 2 had was the PzGr 39 138B

Which could only penetrate 20mm at 100m

8mm at 1000m

The 7TP's glacis armor was 17mm thick

[pine ember]

The Panzer II was designed to fight against tanks like the 7TP or T26

[silk igloo]

23mm at 30○

depends on who sees who first, like usual

[finite berry]

Of course it could, wtf

[pine ember]

Its the same narrative as always T34 op

[opal flame]

Why does my game keep resetting my soldiers to the original character and clothing?

[fast yoke]

I can't find any servers with the new polish map on them on the PT. Did anyone have some luck?

[cyan saddle]

It's in rotation on the 50 player servers. Map is called DEV_B.

[past briar]

hello everyone

[junior fossil]

Yello

[mental bane]

You mean 1942...
The Germans only got in range of Stalingrad during the summer offensive in 1942
It's pre operation Uranus

[ripe token]

yellow

im hopping on band of brothers hll server the queue is f*cking crazyy

[worthy charm]

You can look into #pc-seeding-help , maybe you find a server in your region thats not filled to the brim. 😉

[ripe token]

ok partner 👍

[lofty spire]

Hi guys! Is there a way to add my friend that has the game through xbox gamepass (he's on pc) when I'm on epic games?

[rain lark]

im getting blue screen of death randomyl sometimes when playing

restarts my pc

[worthy charm]

There isnt a way sadly, but most of the times you just join the same server based on the name anyway.

At least that how I do it with my friends.

[unique roost]

Hi all, quick survey. Can you please react to this message if you think commanders have too much power/responsibility?

[slate canopy]

That sounds like a PC not HLL issue. Is windows all up to date?

[silver hemlock]

how does one get into the PTE?

[slate canopy]

In the Steam library there should be two versions of HLL. One is base game, the other is "Hell Let Loose Public Testing" which needs to be installed separately. (Yes all 30+ gigs)

[silver hemlock]

thanks you, I have never noticed that there before

[rain lark]

yeah ofc my windows is fine. every other game works fine this is onyl happening with hell

[slate canopy]

What error pops up with the Bsod?

[rain lark]

I don’t remember I’ll take a pic next time

[slate canopy]

share in #1271718922734796865 and we should be able to figure it out.

[sturdy acorn]

Wow just played my first to matches

This game is fire

[silk halo]

Am I allowed to use Crosshair overlay through the Nvidia overlay options? Or will this result in EAC ban?

[cyan saddle]

Not allowed, so I wouldn't try it

[sullen bay]

is hell let loose ost on spotify?

[cyan saddle]

I know there's some stuff on soundcloud, don't think there's anything on Spotify

[empty steppe]

That’s why you have a screen that can add one 😉

[covert elbow]

I mean just get a sharpie and draw your own overlay. Problem solved

[empty steppe]

This man’s ideas are revolutionary

[ocean sage]

That's a sign that your computer is overheating

Check the dust situation

I got a lot of blue screens before my computer overheated and fried itself

Hell let loose is quite a heavy game requiring lots of cooling so that might be why it's only one that you get blue screens for

[slate canopy]

Someone made a playlist of the songs from the game... which is like the victory songs or menu songs lol

I can't stand marches most of the time tho. 😒 I hate Sousa with a passion.

(From playing it in a city band EVERY summer. Especially "Washington Post" "Liberty Bell" and "Stars and Stripes Forever". It's SO boring as percussion.)

[desert owl]

What exactly is objective mode? now that PTE has been live a while

[slate canopy]

Your objective, in the example, is to put basically dynamite on 5 planes to win as offensive, and to have 1 plane left at the end for defense to win.

[desert owl]

Okay, that’s cool. Hope there’s a nice variation to keep things fresh

Escort tanks

Convoys

[slate canopy]

You can find all the information in the dev brief. There are kinda like 2 right now? That one and a generator in the middle of a map to defend.

[desert owl]

That’s tight, I’ll have to check it

[empty steppe]

Defend the ratte 🙂

[rain lark]

yeah my friend told me its my computer overheating

i have a really high end pc tho i7 + 4090 + 128gb ram. hll shouldnt work it too hard

[slate canopy]

How many fans? 🤔

[covert elbow]

That’s what they all think….

[frank jasper]

anyone down to play with us no one is responding in looking for unit

[mental bane]

#ww2-history message @worthy charm is T17 forcing it's discord mods to pull 24 hour shifts?

[river rover]

We are always here. 😛

[slate canopy]

https://tenor.com/view/roz-monsters-inc-alwayswatching-gif-17198131331509824195

[gentle lintel]

MIKE WAZOWSKI

[slate canopy]

https://tenor.com/view/commercial-mike-monsters-inc-disney-monsters-gif-15668321

[worthy charm]

I can assure you thats not the case.

-# send help, they dont let is leave

[eternal hearth]

I got TK before having my 100 kill streak ................

with artillery

[slate canopy]

Oof. Oh well.

[echo karma]

No pte console still?

[gilded dagger]

Unable to connect since yesterday 😦

"A network error has occurred. Please try again."

[slate canopy]

See if this helps https://discord.com/channels/316459644476456962/1289092404648869891

(it may show as #unknown but it is a link for some possible solutions to fix)

[wind shore]

Hello

How are you

🆕

🚿

[delicate girder]

I wonder if thermite will ever be coming....we know it saw plenty of use in WW2....makes ya wonder

[echo karma]

Whats new game mode? Don't see any vods on yt. Is game under 2k steam yet?

Game is so unpolished for console idek know how it's still on gamepass. It's barely playable. Meanwhile runs fine on 10yr old pc

[slate canopy]

It's called Objective - so a certain objective to win. The example they use is TNT 5 planes. Offensive must blow them up, defense must keep at least one up. Another is a generator in the middle of the small map to defend.

As for Steam numbers... Since I am on my phone, Steamdb says about 5,500 right now.

[finite berry]

Don't worry, with the introduction of the Polish faction, the game will be polished 😏

[echo karma]

So it's basically now hear me out basically rush from battlefield?

With no ticket system cuz I know the can't be bothered to code that

[worthy charm]

Its similar, in Hll terms I would describe it as offensive with more tasks, even though the current PTE is just a very simple version.

[echo karma]

So another mode for seedings basicly. That nobody will play. And lmg it has its own specific servers too huh?

Why is the discord so damn dead.

[slate canopy]

Happens

It's the weekend, people being lazy or busy with stuff, and also for US morning time.

[echo karma]

And no new map correct? So this what they been cooking for what 3months now

[worthy charm]

Its gonna be more again with the next update or god help us a free weekend.

[worthy charm]

They are working on one new map for the soviets.

[echo karma]

No new guns. Factions. Maps. Vehicles no content except a mode no one asked for. A simple pole would tell them what we want

[finite berry]

Better almost "dead" than hyperactive

[echo karma]

And studdergrad rework

[worthy charm]

Its offensive with extra steps, feel free to look into https://discord.com/channels/316459644476456962/1379612158320447518 there is some discussions already about the generell direction.

[slate canopy]

The only new map is Danzig Post Office, for objective (but it is very basic)

[worthy charm]

Dont forget the new tanks they announced. Im still hyped, I still need my Hetzer with top mounted mg.

[echo karma]

So they said awhile ago xbox would get a pte. Why can't we have one? They tested server browsers on xbox. And plenty other games have pte on xbox

[finite berry]

Adding new tanks is pointless without a complete and proper rework of the entire armour system happening before, change my mind

[echo karma]

Yeah and we got about 6 months left of the year and nothing to show for it. Looking like last year again

[nova pivot]

Thats true

[worthy charm]

Its true, but I want them anyway. We will see what they gotta change with the tank rework. My expectations are high for this.

[wind shore]

Yeah and remember they promised us each 2 wives

[echo karma]

Everything is simple for a reason. Want real armour go play s44

[finite berry]

For new tanks or the armour rework?

[finite berry]

https://tenor.com/view/streched-gif-21513890

S44 mentioned

[nova pivot]

You could try doing that instead of complaining.

[echo karma]

I smell copium hard bro. Did you not play the British?

[worthy charm]

Both

[wind shore]

How long you guysbbeen playing hll for

[worthy charm]

I did and they were soooooo bad on release.

[finite berry]

Not trying to sound overly pessimistic, but I don't see them being able to rework tanks in a meaningful way xD

[echo karma]

Bout treefiddy

[worthy charm]

And the bren still isnt alined correctly 🥲

-# or was it the lewis?

-# Im not sure

[finite berry]

Not at all

[echo karma]

Truth. They need to stay simple cuz that's the whole hll shick. Simple yet hard to master. Want a more milsim game go play s44 or arma

[worthy charm]

https://tenor.com/view/this-was-supposed-to-be-a-fun-evening-ruined-fun-happy-have-fun-gif-15617027

[finite berry]

What, no

Tanks can stay easy to understand but definitely should be more in-depth and elaborate

[worthy charm]

So we have gone full round and are back at S44

[finite berry]

Not whatever the f uck the current system is

[echo karma]

And now I ain't In here everyday but has CM said anything in the past 2 months? I haven't seen a Tele since recently bro. I know he ain't saying nothing

[worthy charm]

Perfection as is tradition

[finite berry]

https://tenor.com/view/aliens-alapone-be-my-guest-dare-do-gif-11970653

[echo karma]

Satchels shouldn't 1 shot tanks but okay. Made up fake stuff

At most take off the tracks and I want like 30 sec repair time warthunder

[worthy charm]

I would be fine with one shots, if not half the infantry would have the darn thing.

[finite berry]

Satchels shouldn't one-shot tanks, at least not reliably

[echo karma]

Tanks are only here to mop up infy. Bazooka ain't pen a p4 let alone a tiger

[finite berry]

https://tenor.com/view/funny-team-hahaha-gif-18072160

[worthy charm]

Ben has been on yesterday, to answer question about the PTE #mess-hall message

[echo karma]

Idek I'm out. See yall in December when we get content

[worthy charm]

He is in his well earned weekend now.

[finite berry]

A Bazooka absolutely can and should pen a PzKpfw IV or a Tiger

[finite berry]

Wait

December which year?

[echo karma]

Side pen. No front plate

But tiger had skirts for this issue

[worthy charm]

Lol, the bazooka is still weaker from the time the US AT got 3 rockets and that was like 6 years ago.

[finite berry]

I would like to point out that the PzKpfw IV G had frontally as much armour as the Tiger had on its side (80 mm)

So it makes absolutely no sense to act as if the Bazooka could penetrate the Tiger's side, but not the PzKpfw IV's front

[covert elbow]

It’s a test mode. It’s not coming to the main game

[covert elbow]

Ha! This guy thinks we’re getting a top mounted MG

[echo karma]

So 6monts no content. Cool. S44 it is

[worthy charm]

I dont mean what you may think I mean.

[covert elbow]

Then what do you mean. I’m confused now

[worthy charm]

In S44 the Hetzer got an MG on the top which is controlled by its own gunner inside the tank.

I need that in HLL as well

NOOOO ELISE

NOOO

[finite berry]

"So no players. Cool. HLL it is."

[worthy charm]

Pfuh ok I got away

I thought you would be mean again. 😢

[finite berry]

The eternal vicious cycle of WW2 hardcore shooters.
HLL:

meh, no content
S44:
meh, no players

[worthy charm]

I think we need to play CoD Vanguard then. 😏

-# runs away laughing

[finite berry]

https://tenor.com/view/pepe-clown-clowns-meme-happy-gif-21212832

[echo karma]

Hll hard-core lol. No poe league Friday. Idc about hll. Just wanted info on new mode as there are no content creators on yt pushing footage besides baked goods and probaly soul

[covert elbow]

Oooh okay

[covert elbow]

Probably because the game is pretty much dead lmao

The rate of content we’re getting is so inconsequential it’s laughable

Their commitment to 2026 is looking pretty bleak and is probably only there for some contractual obligations

Like I’m happy with the recent updates but man, it’s to little to late and not enough

[echo karma]

Orange dude asked old CM if we'd crash n burn or fade away. Looking like the later

It's been downhill since t17 acquired hll no?

[covert elbow]

Been downhill since launch imo

The game was to broken on release and that was its first nail in the coffin

[finite berry]

It's not. New content is slow and often lackluster, but it's there. And player count-wise, well, yeah, also definitely not dead

[covert elbow]

Like I said, pretty much dead

It’s like battlefront 2. Player wise it isn’t dead by development wise it’s in the grave

[finite berry]

That would mean that devs actively abandoned it (which they didn't)

[ocean rover]

On ps5 has anyone had the game crash right after joining a server and getting into a squad? Third time it's happened this morning. Before today, it's never done this.

[covert elbow]

Pretty common occurrence. I’ve heard that clearing your cache helps but idk

[broken shoal]

i need to know. i really need to know why is so hard for officers to put garrisons with a support. For veterans an epic game players, like damn. 200+ level players creating a squad for their own and just ignoring when someone tells them they have supplies near to put a garrison. The game dies if people never learn.

[slate canopy]

It's usually more the officer doesn't have support... or that supplies is like 20. 😅

[broken shoal]

that is the issue tbh. if you are an officer and you dont command your squad to play as it suppose to then we are all fckd. i remembeer when the game went free a lot of veterans were complaining and i understand why but now those same veterans play like blueberries because they juust want to create a squad for themselves

i always welcome new players or teach people but if the other 5 officers dont do the same, the game gonna slowly gonna die

[slate canopy]

Just always be helping and willing. 🙂 Trust me, I get frustrated too!

[wooden cloud]

23/50 in the pte server if anyone wants to come party

[covert elbow]

Wish I could

[worthy charm]

Time for an epic flamethrower duel?

[sturdy quarry]

how is the objective mode?

[wooden cloud]

lol we are getting beat up in here

[worthy charm]

Object-ivley good 😏

[worthy charm]

Im in the enemy team and didnt even got into the trenches once...

[sturdy quarry]

https://tenor.com/view/sarcasm-eye-roll-eyeroll-sarcastic-gif-25369981

[wooden cloud]

we lost the one before that in less than 5 min lol

[bitter cipher]

Hello

[slate canopy]

Welcome welcome

[worthy charm]

@wooden cloud It was close, this time 😅

[wooden cloud]

0-4

[worthy charm]

Only one gun was left

[wooden cloud]

i have no idea what its like to win in this mode lol

[wooden cloud]

FINALLY

[rain lark]

i tried squad and squad 44 yesterday but they were so potato compared to hll

uninstalled them both immediately

[finite berry]

https://tenor.com/view/snowwhite-gif-26234667

[rain lark]

squad 44 so bad lmfao. it just looked so potato

[finite berry]

You look potato

[slate canopy]

Please advertise in #console-seeding-help

[past vortex]

s44 does look kinda dumb
not that hll looks exceptional but s44 somehow manages to look worse

[finite berry]

HLL looks good and Squad 44 also looks good, just not as good as HLL.

Plus, Squad 44's graphics and houses interior received a major buff last year

[limber leaf]

You guys like Tobruk? I think it’s great map

[past vortex]

its somewhat ok

[covert elbow]

Graphics > gameplay is the future I guess

Who needs good gameplay when graphics is good

Wait that’s call of duty’s motto…

[past vortex]

its just some minimal graphics standart

must not have raytraced puddles

[covert elbow]

Or pores in the skin

[finite berry]

This. Plus, it's not like Squad 44 looks bad. Yes, it looks not as good as HLL, no question, but it's still a decently looking game.

[past vortex]

thing is that hll is already only barely ok

[finite berry]

In what way?

Both games look pretty good

[covert elbow]

HLL’s graphics have been aging badly

On console you can’t look at anything close before it gets closely pixilated

And even then some items it’s immediately noticeable

[final gale]

Anyone getting issues where you don’t here people talking at all on game but you hear sfx or the other way and you only her people talking and no sfx

[slate canopy]

https://discord.com/channels/316459644476456962/1281049689751552051 See if anything here helps?

[final gale]

Okay will do thanks

[rain lark]

ik it was so potato

we played for like 2 minutes and disconnected

[ocean rover]

You can ask and most will do it. But idc who or why they do it, anyone "commands" me to do anything can shove it

[slate canopy]

I guess it depends on tone in a sense? You can 'command' as in like "Hey, can you put your supplies down" vs "Put your supplies down RIGHT NOW".

[misty needle]

why are the PTE servers dead?

[slate canopy]

May be playing normal game? (like I am)

[gentle lintel]

Polarbear phrases everything as a question

https://tenor.com/view/baby-think-gif-18190233

[misty needle]

well yeah but I figured they would at least be not dead

[misty needle]

most people call that something different lmao

[empty steppe]

Let her cook 👩‍🍳

[slate canopy]

Do I always? 🤫

[covert elbow]

What does she do?

[slate canopy]

I enjoy cooking 😄

[finite berry]

So you got no actual impression at all lol

[empty steppe]

Honest tho cooking is fun

[slate canopy]

I just got 3 shovel kills. Lets GOOOO

[livid saffron]

Why can't objective mode be 50 vs 50

[slate canopy]

Too many, probably.

[thick fox]

ok not related dont mind

can you guys provide me feedback

[slate canopy]

You can share that in off-topic 😉

#off-topic-mess-hall

[outer lava]

Wassuh

[wind shore]

What's your guys favorite class and why

[wind shore]

Medic - can bandage fast + revive team mates

[pine ember]

Officer

You have a big impact on the game and can control the direction the game is heading, plus you get the best loadouts

[bitter cipher]

I can i ask yall a question

[gentle lintel]

Is that a question 🤔 (yes)

[woeful perch]

depends

[wind shore]

Officer is not so important as commander 🫢

Better be commander in that point , it is more important and Officer can’t do what can commander do

I’m seriously ! joking of course

To be honest I never play Officer , I like to be under Officer command and follow the orders

Officer says move , I move, Officer say we go defending, I go defending

It is too simple for me and I don’t need to involve strategy , my tasks just follow + less responsibility for the mistakes

https://tenor.com/view/rat-dance-funny-rat-dance-dancing-rat-gif-1874324974880693067

But if I play officer I do not usual things , I make very rare maneuvers and tactics which always surprise for enemy team

https://tenor.com/view/rat-dance-dance-gif-gif-7064682401296407403

[pine ember]

If the commander is bad a good officer can compensate a bit. If the officers are bad, then the commander cant execute is plans

[livid saffron]

They havent tested 50 vs 50 yet

[cosmic pilot]

why must it

[cyan saddle]

Alamein is 50v50

[empty steppe]

Commander if I’m in the mood to yell at people. But automatic rifleman or spotter is my home 😁

[feral cradle]

hello! does anybody know how the fix the dissconected thingy for VOIP, i did set my mic as default and it still does not work, thank you!

[slate canopy]

Do you have only one input/one output?

[feral cradle]

how do i check? you mean in control panel

[slate canopy]

In your sound settings. 🙂

[feral cradle]

i have 2 outputs and only one input, but i have the ones that use as default

[slate canopy]

Sometimes with Hell Let Loose, you gotta have it as just one input-one output, even if it is set as default.

So disable anything your not using as a microphone or for audio output when you play.

[feral cradle]

ok

should i restart game after?

[slate canopy]

IE: I have just my headset enabled, the rest disabled.

You may need to? Not sure.

[feral cradle]

is not working

[slate canopy]

https://discord.com/channels/316459644476456962/1271765113040408606 this has some solutions

[feral cradle]

thanks i will look into it

[neon mist]

Y'all I just got 2 Tiger kills

[slate canopy]

nice 💪

[neon mist]

8 vehicle kills in total

This is why the British Anti Tank is so awesome

[worthy charm]

Nice indeed

[vagrant crown]

stoney Ike said "chad, you lead the invasion"

[arctic rampart]

So? How's the shadow wizard money gang doing?

[cosmic pilot]

We've legalized nuclear bombs

[empty steppe]

And burned down some orphanages

[solar slate]

just shot at a sherman's turret 3 times and each penetrated, it didn't die, what gives??

(i was on p4)

[arctic rampart]

You were purely damaging its turret hp, not the hull itself

So you made them turn slow and unable to use the gunner's mg, but that's about it

This ain't no war thunder buddy, we got our own rules

[solar slate]

every time ive shot at the turret and 2 pen it explodes

[arctic rampart]

Well not this time, cause /reasons/

It's the same /reasons/ as to why angle-ing armor is nearly pointless

[past vortex]

tank bible says it doesnt

[arctic rampart]

2 on the hulls side sounds like a kill to me

[past vortex]

turrent works too but 3 hits

and not the mantlet

asuming we talk about pz4 vs sherman medium

[arctic rampart]

Now that I think about it... They really need to nail down that armor rework

I mean, it's one of the main few things that has been asked for YEARS. If they fumble, goooooood damn

[past vortex]

yea the color of the tanks could be slightly different tint

[echo lagoon]

Are there any differences between the 2 german frag grenades

[cyan saddle]

Their name

But that's about it afaik

[echo lagoon]

ok thanks

[past vortex]

what 2 frags?

[cyan saddle]

M24 and M43 Stielhandgranate

[past vortex]

i ust read the m43 is a bit faster to throw

[cyan saddle]

I mean could be

I think most people wouldn't even know there's two

[past vortex]

yea i didnt :}

[cyan saddle]

I certainly wouldn't have known either if it weren't for some of the server admin tools I've worked on

It took me a long time to realize that the germans get two different pistols as well

[past vortex]

`
US Mk2 pineapple grenades are thrown the fastest, but cannot be cooked.

German M43 Stielhandgranate takes 3x longer to throw, but can be cooked.

German M24 Stielhandgranate (the black cap one) takes 4x as long to throw, can be cooked too. The advantage is that people can misidentify them as smokes, so they won't run from them. The text written on smoke grenades is more noticeable, so attentive players will still be able to know the difference.
`

idk if its true tho

[covert elbow]

That’s the stupidest line of reasoning I’ve seen

Blackmatter moment I guess

[brittle inlet]

hll emote wheel when?

[past vortex]

i dont think there is reasoning involved

[nova pivot]

One to stop a taxi

[brittle inlet]

utah beach isn’t actually in utah

[steady bolt]

Test

[slate canopy]

Ya good? 🤔

[gentle lintel]

Question again 🙄🙄

[empty steppe]

really???

[brittle inlet]

sorry you had to find out this way

[empty steppe]

😭

[rapid cargo]

omg its in Fr*nce

[slate canopy]

Not sure why you censored France. but okay

[molten heath]

Hahaha

[pale osprey]

hi

[wind shore]

German players preparing for battle: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/339269297966809088/1380361541362253897/496512447_682850194623351_8888890820166560953_n.jpg?ex=6846e51d&is=6845939d&hm=474beeb6bc1ac994aba37eab885b581e02d8d5390049089e06eed65c5972b768&

[undone pivot]

do u guys think bob the builder server is cheating?

its possible to get lvl 100 in 1 day in bob

[slate canopy]

Up to you if you wish to use it.

I don't use it, level 193 last night with 950 hours. I just play roles I like. I can see people using it to get roles to certain levels if they don't wanna grind.

As for level 100, it's nothing important to get to. I don't think you unlock anything based off acount level beyond achievements?

[worthy charm]

Depends on how long you think one plays in one day... 👀

[empty steppe]

YOU SAID IT 🫨

[covert elbow]

No. HLL’s grind is way to much and Bob offers a simple solution to the grind issue the game has

[past vortex]

id advise to rather do that while seeding a server

[dry depot]

20min has got to be a record for a full server of Utah beach.....waste of my time

[night lark]

Sounds like one side has a skill issue

[wind shore]

[desert owl]

Progression is solid, XP servers aren’t Needed

[dry depot]

called out a commander for doing nothing all game and you get kicked for it.....gotta love the great community

[slate canopy]

sometimes people just vote kick. It happens.

[covert elbow]

After level 5 it falls of a cliff. I should not need 50+ hours of constant sweating to get a new loadout

Even worse when it’s a unique weapon that’s locked behind a high role, like the flamethrower

[dry depot]

Nope game was almost over and I wasted 40min

[slate canopy]

🤷‍♀️ Again, it happens.

[dry depot]

Ya, "mom he made fun of me" vote to kick, lemmings board the train, evening ruined. Don't know which has a better fan base hll or cod

[slate canopy]

Buddy, I have been vote kicked as a commander and as just a normal player for being a woman. Usually most people are nice, but ... it happens. I just go to another server.

[desert owl]

I completely agree. It’s still fairly solid tho, many hours to dump. And I have the same issue tryna max assault

[stoic garnet]

I think everyone should bob the builder if they like the game. Having the satchel loadouts locked behind a playtime requirement that 80% of people never reach is game breaking

assault 9 being locked behind 100+ hours of legit grinding is a crime

[slate canopy]

Post 950 hours.... 🤭 I just don't play it.

[stoic garnet]

The biggest armor farm games always happen on low level servers

and its 20% enemies not knowing what to do, and 80% there being no satchel threat

its key to balance and if you dont have it unlocked and choose not to bob the builder a satchel kit you will be trying to cut down a tree with your fists if you have to dislodge a german heavy

[ebon fable]

Never play the best 2 axis classes…. RP noob detected

[slate canopy]

I enjoy Spotter, Support, Engineer, AT, sometimes Officer or Commander.

[desert owl]

Assualt on top

[livid saffron]

Alemien will be 50 vs 50.

Objective mode?

[past vortex]

why would you skip a class with a satchel

[slate canopy]

I play Engineer or AT if I want satchel.

[past vortex]

what if you want a 3rd satchel

[slate canopy]

🤷‍♀️ Oh well I guess. Most of the time I have to take one of the roles above, so I never really play assault.

[past vortex]

and then... the grenadier loadout is also great
so many grenades

3 smokes for your squad and 6 fa=rags for the enemies :}

[slate canopy]

Doesn't change the fact i usually have to play Support, Engineer, or AT on my teams because the other people won't take them.

[past vortex]

at is often taken

support is best left open so its available when needed

[slate canopy]

Plus, I love the engineer shotgun 😍 I won't say no!

[past vortex]

yea !

played that just today, big fun

but so is stg assaulter :}

[livid saffron]

Those coats would be good for Purple heart lane.

[livid saffron]

I just go there to gaslight and then provoke them into a tk frenzy. Helps after a bad day.

[rapid cargo]

I want to try them but communication is scary, I'm shy

[solid plume]

Hello, can anyone help me i've been stuck in the splash screen i've tried all the solutions here but it doesn't work

[pale shell]

any servers to find tank crews to causally play with

[pine ember]

Just do it, it makes the game easier for everyone

[analog apex]

I was shy too - I was afraid to say even a word at the beginnings of my VOIP gaming. But the more I talked, the more I got used to it and today I can't imagine playing a multiplayer game without talking.

And it helped me not just in gaming, but in real life too at least up to some decree (because I am overall an ultimately shy introvert person irl).

[slate canopy]

https://discord.com/channels/316459644476456962/1324513094055231569

[past vortex]

there really is no point in playing hll if you dont talk

[uneven coyote]

Is errrmmm anyone doing anything about the cheaters in games?.....pretty sure I had an invisible foe the other day and some long range shots seem far to accurate.

[finite berry]

On community-hosted servers, yes. On official servers, no.

[uneven coyote]

ah I'll have to swap then cause getting crazy now.

[finite berry]

Just don't play on official servers.

[uneven coyote]

actually I have been mostly on community servers...that's where I;m seeing it

[finite berry]

Oh. Then contact the respective moderators, if necessary open up a ticket on their Discord.

[worthy charm]

Getting shot from nowhere is something that happens though.

[uneven coyote]

Oh yer defo....today though I unloaded a clip and someone running far off whilst zig zagging, pretty sure I hit them a couple of time and they just stopped running and headshot straight off.....far too suspect.

[crude bloom]

/roadmap

How do I see it?

[broken shoal]

the new patch have a date?

[worthy charm]

#telegrams message 😉

[crude bloom]

Thanks bro

[slender lintel]

йоу

выберите, да или нет

[finite berry]

Sprich Deutsch, du Hu

English?

[slender lintel]

What is the power?

[wind shore]

Да

[slender lintel]

а вот почему ты да выбрал

[wind shore]

Прост

😏

[slender lintel]

а что мешает выбрать нет?

[wind shore]

А что выбрать ?

[slender lintel]

да хуй знает что выбрать

здарова

[echo lagoon]

Is it 2 or 3 panzershrecks to kill a jumbo

I just was testing in the practice range and 2 rockets straight in the back of the jumbo didnt kill. I thought it took only 2 rockets

both shots are square in the middle of the engine block

[cyan saddle]

3

because god (BM) forbid a single AT can take out a tank on their own

until they added satchels

[echo lagoon]

did it used to be 2?

or was I always crazy

[cyan saddle]

Yes, but that was years ago

[wind shore]

https://discord.com/channels/316459644476456962/1381701117720793138

[echo lagoon]

Does the BREN count as an MG or Automatic Rifle damage wise

[covert elbow]

Fairly certain it has AR damage values but I’ll need to check the damage bible

[covert elbow]

Yea it has AR values

[wind shore]

Who also think that Commander should drive prestige car like Mercedes Benz?

[worthy charm]

https://discord.com/channels/316459644476456962/1328224871590793268

[strange basin]

How are kill points arranged? 5 points for body shots, 10 for head?

[undone pivot]

10 for kill i think

when i get 50 kills im usually having 500 + score for combat

[wind shore]

Add horses 🐎

🐎

[ivory scaffold]

It used to be 2 AND the AT class (at least on American) used to be able to hold something like 3-4 rockets PER respawn.

It was ludicrous. They rightly changed it to force squads to work together to use shared rocket ammo to destroy tanks.

But then they gave every squad access to 2 satchels each + 2 rockets per squad. It swapped to Engi and Assault 9 after that.

[echo lagoon]

I thought American was 3 rockets on hand, but they also did less damage and needed 3 to kill a heavy

[past vortex]

it differs for role killed
riflemen 3, specialists and officers 6, commander 9

[strange basin]

End of game said I got 30 "kill points" or something so what's that

As a riflemen

[past vortex]

no idea what you talk about

[strange basin]

At the end when it gives you exp for your rank it said kill points 30

[ivory scaffold]

I don’t remember if the damage was lower per rocket. I just remember that if you pulled into a fight in a tank back then, you’d have at minimum 6-8 rockets thrown your way before you could set up.

It never let up. People would lob all 3 and redeploy on their OPs for the shorter timer and stream more and more.

With only 2 per man now, people are a lot more careful (generally) with their shots. But the extra satchels make that moot.

[echo lagoon]

I played alot of tanks back then and never had issues like that

[ivory scaffold]

I encountered it all the time when I was in a tank but I was also new to tanking. So not always the most experienced drivers or spotters with me. Myself included.

But it was changed for the better.

They just need to provide Tank Commanders with the ability to pop out of the hatch with their weapon and spin 360 degrees for satchel defense, and it’ll be even more balanced.

[past vortex]

tanks are already almost unkillable by infantery if the crew is good

no need to "balance" that

[ivory scaffold]

In a stomp maybe, but not in an average map where the teams are more balanced themselves.

In a 50v50 At minimum, there are roughly 12 satchels and 12 rockets running around the map PER side. Any tank also has the enemy tank crews to worry about on top of that.

Yes they’re armored, but that’s lot more opportunities to be 1 or even 2 shot depending on the map. It’s a lot for one spotter. I’ve seen some heroic tanking crews, but most tend to die a lot faster than they used to. That came about when the devs added more satchels to each team.

[cyan saddle]

For public matches it's fine

In competitive matches, the winning team can keep their tanks further back, forcing the losing team's tanks to make risks.

And with the extra level of coordination going on it's quite difficult for enemy infantry to get near.

[past vortex]

idk how you have never seen a tank crew who knows how to manage that
but i asure you the really good tankers do

and yea that means you cant just drive amongst the enemy infantry

[placid axle]

how come there's no moderators on the official servers that's insane

why do they even exist in the first place if its just gonna be a cesspit

same people hacking and griefing everyday

on weekend's they get up to almost a 1000 players by themselves

[finite berry]

It's not insane, that's actually pretty common

T17 just provides the servers, they don't care about gameplay quality

It's the same on other games

[finite berry]

And why would they? It would mean just a lot of effort because they'd have to provide 24/7 moderation

[slate canopy]

Plus, official servers is just so that there are servers available to play on. Say for some reason a bunch of community server providers are having issues, there would still be servers to play on and limited interruption of playing.

[placid axle]

24/7 moderation? how hard would it be to just assign a few moderators for them at least

[finite berry]

It's personnel they'd have to hire and pay solely for that reason

Not worth it, simple as it is

Just don't play there

[placid axle]

mods for the reddit? ✅
mods for the discord? ✅
mods for the ACTUAL and OFFICIAL game servers? no can do bro

[finite berry]

That's why companies should refrain from hosting "official" servers in general imo (in case they don't want to moderate them)

[finite berry]

Those are all volunteers

[placid axle]

yeah

[slate canopy]

We ain't paid

[placid axle]

exactly

[finite berry]

Plus, there is ONE subreddit and ONE Discord server

How many official servers exist?

[placid axle]

why cant we get volunteers for the official servers as well

[finite berry]

^^

And another thing, the risk and the resulting consequences of power abuse on an in-game server are much, much higher and more severe than compared to a subreddit or a Discord server.

[placid axle]

so instead we let them be cesspits yeah

[slate canopy]

Just play community servers. 😛

[finite berry]

How do you want to make sure they can actually cover the servers 24/7? How do you want to make sure they're suited for the job? How do you want to make sure they are not abusing their power?

[finite berry]

Yes. Unironically, yes.

It's the easiest solution. Like PolarBearr said, just don't play there

[placid axle]

you could have a special dedicated section on the discord where people can upload proof of someone cheating/griefing, you know, just like on most community discord servers where they have a ticket system(crazy)

[finite berry]

That would be doable, I guess, yes

But there is no real incentive for T17 to do it

Whether they do it or not, it doesn't make any difference whatsoever in regards to the game's performance, player count or sales numbers

[night lark]

play on community servers, we have this exact thing

[cyan saddle]

No sane team of volunteers would want to look after tens of HLL servers. Our community has one server. That's enough for me😛

[nova pivot]

Good night everyone 👋💤💤

[bitter cipher]

Is it possible to talk to a team17 staff?

[slate canopy]

What's the prob?

[bitter cipher]

I have a inquiry about something I am trying to develop

[slate canopy]

Best would be to email Team17 directly.

[bitter cipher]

Alright

[slate canopy]

Very rarely do we see Team17 staff in here (beyond Ben, but he's our community manager), so email is best.

[cyan saddle]

#1381504314043797637

😉

🤫

[leaden vector]

hey is there like any groups or regiments that host battles?

[slate canopy]

Are you looking for more competitive or more just between clans?

[leaden vector]

As of now just clans

[slate canopy]

I mean, some clans do. You can see all advertised clans in #1343090646168240199

[leaden vector]

I’m kinda of new

[slate canopy]

Sure thing Welcome in, hope you find somewhere you like.

[leaden vector]

Ok really appreciate it

[echo lagoon]

when was the last free weekend?

[slate canopy]

For what platform?

[echo lagoon]

pc

[past vortex]

what pc

[echo lagoon]

steam

I thought it was only on steam for pcs

[slate canopy]

There is Epic store and PC Gamepass as well

[past vortex]

on steam last summer according to steamdb

on epic in january as free to keep

on xbox just last weekend

[echo lagoon]

Nice, I hope steam comes again soon

I have a friend whos really interested in the game but cant risk spending limited money on a game he may not enjot

[slate canopy]

Definitely tell him to watch some videos, maybe some live streams.

[echo lagoon]

he has been

[past vortex]

thing is even if you have seen vids the 1st 3 battles will be baaaaad :}

[slate canopy]

ohh definitely 😆

[echo lagoon]

he likes playing tanks in other games so I plan to go tank crew with him for a while

[fluid shale]

Guys with the new objective mode coming what do you think of the dieppe raid being added as a new map? i think it would be really cool and a great showcase of the new mode and the canadian army in ww2.

[wind shore]

It’s not fact that it’s coming

It was just test to know the opinions would this objective mode cool for the game or not

Dieppe raid would be cool

https://discord.com/channels/316459644476456962/1280384970967351350

https://discord.com/channels/316459644476456962/1280384970967351350

[covert elbow]

Objective mode isn’t com in f to the game. It’s just a test to see what they can canabalize from the mode for the main game. Dieppe would be an interesting map to add though

[acoustic rapids]

lewis gun fixed yet?

[covert elbow]

No

[wind shore]

When is new update?

17.1

[humble perch]

Soon

[wind shore]

[wind shore]

Guys who also think that we need Mercedes Benz in game??

Volkswagen it’s just not so prestige and cool, better to drive Mercedes also

[mellow knoll]

No because only high level officers really used Mercedes cars

It doesn’t fit HLL’s setting

[wind shore]

Not really, I’ve seen photos when soldiers drive it

Medics

[mellow knoll]

Ah you mean the normal Mercedes cars and not the special ones high ranked officers used. Yeah maybe then.

[wind shore]

Yes, the light vehicle

I haven’t added the high rank model but it also would be cool

[wind shore]

Would you add Kriegsmarine artillerists which were in batteries in Normandy in your list?

[mellow knoll]

Idk, I don’t think I have models of them.

[wind shore]

https://discord.com/channels/316459644476456962/1381577718457565204

[wind shore]

In the 1944 Battle of Normandy, German artillery was a significant factor in the defense, particularly in coastal fortifications and on the field. German artillery was divided into terrestrial (Heeresartillerie) and naval (Marineartillerie) branches, with the latter often responsible for coastal batteries. German field artillery was a mix of various calibers, including the 88mm gun, Nebelwerfers (multi-barrel rocket launchers), and mortars. German artillery was also used in counter-attacks against Allied advances, particularly in the Falaise pocket. German forces also used captured artillery, including French and Soviet guns, in their defenses.

[night lark]

Youve seen staff cars. Staff officers are not field officers. A Kubelwagon is by far the most common.

[wind shore]

https://tenor.com/view/mercedes-benz-trucks-mercedes-mbt-mercedes-benz-actros-gif-23969426

[desert owl]

Opel.

[wind shore]

We have it

https://tenor.com/view/gt63s-mercedes-mercedes-benz-gif-26092730

[desert owl]

We got motorcycles and side cars?

[wind shore]

No

[desert owl]

Damn, could be an interesting addition

[wind shore]

I hope it also will be added

[desert owl]

More content the better

[wind shore]

Of course

[wind shore]

It is about variety

We have jeeps , but why don’t get more interesting car

And have variant to choose

[night lark]

Because staff cars would be nowhere near the front 🤣

The US had a Dodge or a Jeep. That was it tbh

[wind shore]

Commander also is not on the frontline

[night lark]

Commander role doesnt mean rank. If it was a rank, the officers wouldn’t be officers, they’d be lieutenants. And since commander is a staff officer and not a field officer its safe to say the “commander” isn’t referring to rank.

There is no reason to have staff officer cars (which btw were also all mostly Kubelwagons)

[cosmic pilot]

Uh, yes they would.

[past veldt]

Until they change the way vehicle spawning works, including increasing the limit of vehicles allowed to be spawned (and fixing the perf issues that come with it), we just shouldn't have any new vehicles added to the game

[night lark]

For the germans? No. Staff officers generally weren’t at the front. They furthest they’d go is to a second or third line position. Rarely theyd go to a safer front line position but as a rule 2nd or 3rd line positions only

2nd and 3rd like positions were generally 2-5KMs from the front but could be closer or further depending on the position.

[slow egret]

Am i special or i just can' t KILL the HORSEMAN !!!!!!

[night lark]

Theres cavalry?

[slow egret]

UPs wrong game

[analog apex]

and the arty was like 3-4+ kilometers at minimum behind the line too and yet we have it shooting as close as 400m which is much bigger problem than a staff officer being on the frontline imo

I would have no problem with the car for the Commander, it's a good idea actually. Maybe not realistic (at least with GER), but it's far from being as intrusive as the arty guns are when it comes to the realism / historicalAuthenticity part.

[night lark]

Yeah because adding in less realism is better guys.

[analog apex]

More like removing the existing one.

[night lark]

Artillery is meant to be getting reworked anyway isnt it?

[analog apex]

As long as it gets removed. But we don't know that yet.

[night lark]

Well no not like that at all because adding staff cars is adding in less realism

[analog apex]

Imo that's negligible in that specific case.

[worthy charm]

Would cars end up like jeeps now though? I wanted one a few weeks ago and the commander refused to give me one

I would rather get new tanks in the more or less weird system then more vehicles commander doesnt want to spawn for me.

[wind shore]

https://tenor.com/view/mercedes-benz-benz-benz-logo-3pointed-star-star-gif-23689420

[wind shore]

Bad Commander

It costs cheap and didn’t take a lot of fuel for him

[wind shore]

Why it’s less realism if Germans were mostly motorised infantry

They used most of those vehicles

Soviets had motorised infantry also, but those stack in the mud

Maybe Limo version of Mercedes-Benz would be cool