mess-hall

[nova pivot]

That a Stuart can't penetrate a Panzer 4 from the side is something to cry about.

[real parrot]

Well, yes, but the Stuart would be too OP if that happen tbh, maybe the Puma should also be able to pen the medium from the sides

[nova pivot]

They have to remove the lutch and put the 38t

To balance It with the stuart

Or not remove it, just make it another option

[covert elbow]

Agreed

[real parrot]

Well yes, the Luch is weird, but the 38t is quite slower than the Stuart, I would think something like the puma as the light tank and the version with a 20mm cannon, as the luch, for the recon tank

[nova pivot]

Or the sdfk 222 as the recon

[dry ginkgo]

Why do my settings, outfits, presets all reset everytime i play hell let loose?

[storm stratus]

Just need to say. I’m addicted to this game… i haven’t been this much into a game in years. I can have a break. But all i do is think about playing next. I think its hit that sweet spot ive had since BF2.

P.S. I only started in January. But i sure am flying up the ranks. Around 340hours at level 143.

[slate canopy]

Sometimes that happens. There are some solutions: either save the file and exchange the files as soon as it resets or set the file to read-only.

[night lark]

Use a panzer III instead of a panzer II

[night lark]

Is your config file read only?

[covert elbow]

Still baffles me how it’s been a known thing for years and yet it still exists

[river rover]

You can't help if the OS resets files\folders to "Read Only" or folks do so themselves. Also a system crash is outside of the game as well. 😉

[covert elbow]

So… your saying the game crashing and peoples loadouts/ cosmetics being reset is the fault of the player and not the game?

[river rover]

Most crashes are not game related and system related. People tweak so many things locally for those extra fps. Setting any Steam Launch Options as example. Tweaking system memory or OC'ing in general. Having third party AV\Firewall software or other items running in their system trays conflicting with EAC. I could go on and on. Those are not game related in any way.

I've played the game going on 6 years now and have never had a single crash except the ones the developers were well aware of and those have been fixed. I only had my settings reset once in that entire time as well and again it was due to a known crash which no longer exists.

Plus you can work around the issue by backing them up and if you get reset. Just copy the saved versions back.

Only thing is you have to save after every release because of possible changes to the files.

[tender shore]

It ain't my fault that I shot you, it's your fault for being in the way type shii

[oak coral]

Jesus Christ

we still on this? Bruh we get it.

you guys have been on this since I had my break at work this morning at 10am.

[cosmic pilot]

install a legitimate version of windows

[dry ginkgo]

??

I'm not poor enough to not own windows

[slate canopy]

Ignore him. We've all said the same thing 😛 It happens.

[dry ginkgo]

I crack videogames not OS systems-

[vestal spear]

i crack bones getting off the couch too fast 😦

[cosmic pilot]

install a legitimate version of HLL

[dry ginkgo]

HLL is an online game, if u cracked it, u would be unable to play it due to being unable to connect to the servers

[rigid tusk]

Game down?

Nvm its on my end

[tender shore]

@dry ginkgo you are so cute

[gray garden]

huh

[ivory kernel]

poopy

[tender shore]

Bro how old are you 💀

[ivory kernel]

Lmao, it's the police

[ocean sage]

If you don't poo you've got a serious health problem

[ivory kernel]

yes, or addiction

[oak coral]

what the fur.

ya imma ignore those messages. how’s everyone’s Monday going? mines slow

[sudden copper]

hey i havent played hll since a long time and can somebody help me how i can lie down?

[pine ember]

Z

[azure heath]

do those in the UK have off today?

[oak coral]

american here, care to explain why?

just a holiday?

[azure heath]

i'm american, just wondering if they do

[oak coral]

what holiday is even today

lol

[azure heath]

memorial day

[oak coral]

oh wow im a pos

lmao

i wouldnt imagine they get off really, most of em are not online rn...

i could be wrong

[wind shore]

Hi, @azure heath We’ll send a direct message when we have any update to share about this conversation.

[azure heath]

oops

[oak coral]

lol

[azure heath]

that's not a person

[nova pivot]

LoL what did you said?

[oak coral]

i cant see anything on their website today

[azure heath]

no one needs to know

[oak coral]

uk today if they get today off, but i see 1/7 of friends on who from UK

[vapid yarrow]

It's a UK bank holiday

[azure heath]

ahh

i knew something was up

thank u very much

[wind shore]

Wow it is Rebecca! Hell let Loose developer and Team 17 developer!

[azure heath]

u good bro?

[wind shore]

Yes

[novel geyser]

Bank holiday Monday but not everyone is off (me I'm at work and no extra pay)

[cyan saddle]

No bank holiday here, I just called in sick

[paper pulsar]

this game is really good ngl, wish we had leibermuster tho lol

[wind shore]

For 1945 maps yes

[real parrot]

What is a leibermuster

[finite berry]

Sounds like a camo

Leib means body/torso and Muster means pattern in German

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leibermuster

Oh, and it got named after its inventors (named Leiber). My translation would still be correct, tho lol

[paper pulsar]

it was the camo that was intended for the entire german army pre-end of the war

call me silly but id much rather rock it than the zeltbahn poncho and the SS camo

dont get me wrong i like both but as silly as it sounds im not a huge fan of running around in SS camo outside of like autumn maps lnao

i do love the zeltbahn poncho tho

oh also: i wish they'd add a daisy mae cap i love those things

[night lark]

Normal splinter pattern and splinter-B would be cool to have more of

Splinter zelts should be the most common camouflage as well for Heer units

[covert elbow]

Did… did I just see somebody from T17 besides Greg and Ben talk here?

Never thought I’d see the day

Anyways when pacific

[dry ginkgo]

wghat 😭

[wind shore]

In Pacific

[paper pulsar]

we need italy first

[worthy charm]

Thats a first time, isnt it?😅

[wind shore]

Italy would be nice

Those rocks and cliffs and houses on this

[paper pulsar]

having both the kingdom and the SRI would be gold

wish i could post pics in general rn but i love the samurai vests: https://www.sarcoinc.com/italian-ww2-samurai-magazine-vest/

[tender shore]

Your profile it is cute I like it

[paper pulsar]

still pisses me off to no end that company of heroes 3 takes place in italy yet you cant play as either the co-belligerent forces or the SRI

[dry ginkgo]

Thank you

[covert elbow]

Think so

[tender shore]

Go get em 🫡

[wind shore]

Would like to see British maps not only in Africa but also in Normandy, Netherlands

And maybe some factions like from early WW2, 1939 - 1941 years

[tender shore]

I would like the option to change my team if I get stuck as British even if the opposite team has 50/50

[wind shore]

Would like to see… 100 vs 100

[tender shore]

I swear some of the British guns are pea shooters Someone once said that all guns 1 hit to the head meanwhile I be headshotting the enemy team like I'm in a cod Montage and get 0 kills

[wind shore]

https://tenor.com/view/hll-sancho-raptors-poule-hell-let-loose-gif-25975085

I love to play British only with Bren

[tender shore]

The best race ahem faction is Germany followed by American then Russian then British

[tender shore]

The bren is a cool gun but leaves me wanting

Wanting an Mg42 that is

[wind shore]

And sten also

[tender shore]

I don't hate the sten but my boy can you do some more damage

It's a fun gun to shoot and it feels good to use but suffers from damage fall off

Some smgs or maybe all smgs take like 4 body shots at range to kill

[gusty stag]

Evening all, new player here just reached private first class in game. How you all doing?

[tender shore]

Meanwhile rifle goes brr and 1 taps

[slate canopy]

I'm doing good, how about yourself?

[gusty stag]

Yea I'm alright thanks, didn't know about this game until last week. Stepson got me on it haha

[tender shore]

What do you enjoy about the game?

[gusty stag]

Well if I'm honest, I was a battlefield 1 player, and that game kinda went dead. Haven't found anything like it until now. I love the game even though I'm not too fussed about history. But the game is good. I started as a medic but prefer rifle man. I like that it's better than the now Fortnite style CoD lol

[finite berry]

Pretty good :D welcome to the front

[gusty stag]

Cheers

[tender shore]

I also loved battlefield the current one 2042 is a travesty and a stain on the records, I also am a medic enjoyer because healing the players makes you feel good inside instead of Killin you are bringing some sunshine

[gusty stag]

Bringing some sunshine lol

[tender shore]

The war needs more medics like you

[gusty stag]

I found the gun weaker as a medic though

[finite berry]

This game needs more medics in general lol

[gusty stag]

Im trying to level up both rifleman and medic, more so the rifleman.

[tender shore]

That's cause it is weaker yes and has less ammo it's a nerf so that rifleman is still viable

Why play rifleman when you can player a healing rifleman Afterall

[gusty stag]

However I'd love to find regular players to join. I from the UK. Im crap at giving orders but can follow them to a point unless I feel I would suit better heading somewhere else lol

[tender shore]

The good thing about medic is that you have access to semi auto guns so certain guns are good if you are bad at aiming like I am

[slate canopy]

You can find folks to play with in #console-looking-for-unit

[gusty stag]

Would love a scope on the gun lol

[worthy charm]

https://tenor.com/view/loki-dont-just-dont-stop-gif-23310589

[slate canopy]

Or if your'e looking for a clan/community, you can go to #1343089641489961001 and see if that works for you.

[tender shore]

We all think that till the enemy also has scopes and unemployment checks

[gusty stag]

Yea I scanned the discord as I waited ten mins to be able to pop my head in the chat 😆

[slate canopy]

I solo-que all the time and just play with whoever, so to each of their own.

[tender shore]

Guys no one bully @gusty stag she is too good for this world

[gusty stag]

I randomise too, but sometimes you come across good players you work well with. Even at a meager level 20, I can still shine bright once I got my head into gear 😆

[finite berry]

MORE MEDICS

[finite berry]

virgin scope vs chad iron sights :D

[worthy charm]

https://tenor.com/view/ban-hammer-futurama-scruffy-gif-20750885

-# /s

[finite berry]

Time to add more medics :D

/not s

[slate canopy]

Of course. I had a blast the other night with a guy letting me snipe (I usually play spotter if I can) and we'd talk random stuff all game 😛 Even zoom across map on Jeep and bother a heavy tank at end game (because our side couldn't defend) #hll-artwork message for pics lol

[gusty stag]

Lol

[wet bough]

Hi all newbie here

[gusty stag]

Heyo

[worthy charm]

Now i gotta go and find you.😑

Be prepared!!!

[finite berry]

I'm awaiting you uwu

[finite berry]

Welcome to the front

[worthy charm]

https://tenor.com/view/sad-cute-uwu-cat-teary-eyes-gif-17321485

Ok, I think I reached my daily gif limit.

[tender shore]

What's his name

Looks like a Tito something like that

[worthy charm]

|| Wer das liest ist dumm ||

@finite berry See your name above

[slate canopy]

I found the National Memorial Day Parade on YouTube live stream. The Grand Marshalls are a bunch of World War 2 vets They are in some snazzy cars!

[finite berry]

Da fehlt ein Komma.

Who is dumb now

[worthy charm]

Uff

[finite berry]

https://tenor.com/view/ahh-victory-ahh-ahhh-victory-gif-23309573

[worthy charm]

Thats hard...

[worthy charm]

I shall return

Now back to work

[finite berry]

You've lost

You're banned to the shadow realm (B*rlin)

[tender shore]

🫠

[worthy charm]

https://tenor.com/view/yugioh-anime-omg-wtf-cant-unsee-gif-5159766

[finite berry]

An adequate reaction to having to go to B*rlin

I feel your pain 🫂

But you shall go >:)

[covert elbow]

All SMG’s do the same damage. The games hit reg is just awful so it seems like your taking more shots then you are

[tender shore]

Thanks, I thought the game was just signalling me out and trying to fight me

[cosmic pilot]

There is some very slight difference in the threshold for 2 hit damage to 3 hit damage

Iirc the grease gun can 2 hit slightly farther than other smgs

[tender shore]

Whenever I be Shooting someone and my shots be dinging but they ain't be dying I genuinely leave the match and think about throwing hands with my tv

[covert elbow]

Yea. I think it’s lower ROF it turns to 2 but higher ROf is 3 shot

[tender shore]

I feel like the MP40 is a 4 shot torso at around 200 distance

[cosmic pilot]

No

[covert elbow]

3 is the max damage

[cosmic pilot]

All smgs have a 2 hit at close range

[covert elbow]

Where the hells the damage bible…

[cosmic pilot]

At around 30-40m it switches to 3 hits to kill

[tender shore]

This is why rifleman is op 1 hit kill

[cosmic pilot]

More like 40-50m

[tender shore]

I have to lead my shots as a rifleman by alot cause of lagg feels like I'm a real life sniper

The ding sound effect feels so good in my ears The bliss from knowing that someone got mad about me Killin them after they ran for 500 distance to get here and have to do it all over

[covert elbow]

Yea it’s the same stat across the board. 2 shot up to 50 and 3 after that

[empty steppe]

I just shoot the enemy until they stop moving, tends to work pretty well

I mean the game gives you so much ammo, so why not? 🤣

[vestal spear]

bonus balled ! XD

pewpewpew

[gusty stag]

The one thing I dont like on the game is the respawning times lol

[finite berry]

Probably a bit longer than Bf1's ^^

[real parrot]

They are really short for a tactical game

[nova pivot]

also releases you in the middle of combat

[real parrot]

I would love off-map deploys, like convoys and parachutes being the actual method of deployment

[shrewd apex]

Divagree

.d i v a g r e e

[slate canopy]

so close

[covert elbow]

Fish react this man

[desert owl]

Why is there an “ [N] “ next to my name on scoreboard?

[slate canopy]

Did you type N in the clan tag in the settings? Should be at the top of game play settings

[desert owl]

I did not, it’s also after my name

[analog current]

anyone trying to run some? tank squad is fun

[slate canopy]

Does it look like this? (Just a random pic from Google images)

Where [VOID] is

[covert elbow]

[VOID]

[empty steppe]

[VOID]

[vestal spear]

[THENOID]

[covert elbow]

https://tenor.com/view/dr-manhattan-gif-18899941

How dare you break the chain

[vestal spear]

im a chaotic neutral. i do what i do .

also im sad you didnt get my noid reference 😭

[covert elbow]

I did but it wasn’t funny

[vestal spear]

https://tenor.com/view/lol-haha-robin-williams-funny-dad-gif-17579798

[covert elbow]

Robin Williams

[vestal spear]

yes but from what ?

no google !

[covert elbow]

Your mother!

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1335100895834148935/1335104189147123763/Greg_gif.gif

[vestal spear]

https://tenor.com/view/bruce-willis-bleh-funny-gif-14788123

[unreal nacelle]

Hello! Where can I find the invite link to ANZR Warfare 24/7 server? Thank you!!

[hybrid linden]

Hi

Walking

Dead

Game dms?

[arctic rampart]

If they don't have the dc link on the server anywhere, then no clue.
By the name of it, feels like it's a clan server, so you can try the console division recruitment section, maybe you can find a post there?

[unreal nacelle]

Thank you so much Solid!

[arctic rampart]

Past few days, I have slowly started to get the urge to play HLL again, but damn.
That all got shot down the second I go in-game and just have the most absolute dogwater teammates known to man.

[storm stratus]

I get the urge alot. Team doesn’t bother me if they bad or good. Tho i hate games that are stomps. Very boring.

[tender shore]

If you want better teammate just run in front of your teammates bullets and then when they team kill you initiate a vote kick on them just joking of course unless ..

[arctic rampart]

Stomps are boring, but it's even more boring having to do everything yourself, since others can't fill basic tasks.
Such as recon taking out back garries, or making any of ours.
Tanks being completely oblivious to perfect callouts and markers

[night lark]

Level 50+ or 75+ servers are where you need to play mate

[arctic rampart]

Guess so, but annoying having to wait for peak times to have those populated

[oak current]

seems the link they posted is out of date. you might want to contact that Kratos Person

[frank walrus]

will devs ever update the ironsight models so i can see what im shooting

[novel geyser]

They'll add red dot

[finite berry]

What's the problem

[tender shore]

The problem is that #off-topic-mess-hall

[wind shore]

No access

[arctic rampart]

It's the offtopic channel, get a role to see it

[tender shore]

🥹

[gilded walrus]

hello

[arctic rampart]

hi

[wind shore]

Hello

[tender shore]

Hiya

[wet bough]

Hi all

[desert owl]

Small one after, but N

[slate canopy]

Yeah so that's in gameplay settings, clan tag. Just remove it.

[wind shore]

How is your days going guys

[tender shore]

It's 4o clock in the morning

I tried to play apex legends but trio is dead ranked is dead duo is dead I can't get a match in the entirety of Asian Pacific region

This made me so angry that I aggressively pat and scratched my dog tucked him into bed kissed his forehead and waved goodnight to him

[empty steppe]

Well it’s about time 😅🤣

Apex mobile was actually really fire… and then they removed it 🥲

Makes me sad

[tender shore]

@empty steppe I will eat you

[desert owl]

Ppreciate you, will do when I’m home. Unsure how it got there

[tender shore]

Btw my teammates for the last 5 games all died with 0 damage the new matchmaking is terrible I'm level 400 but I get low level teammates and theirs guys with 200k kills in the matches with mostly level 5 players

The new meta is play with someone around level 100 to get into the easy lobbies when you have hundreds of thousands of kills so good matchmaking system apex

[empty steppe]

not today

try again tomorrow

[tender shore]

@empty steppe I had a salad and some tomato soup for dinner and you shall be my dessert

My favourite cheese cake I think was lemon cheesecake

[empty steppe]

well I'm strawberry so get out 🗣️

[tender shore]

GET IN MY BELLY

[empty steppe]

mods ban this guy 🫨

[tender shore]

No ban this guy

[covert elbow]

Mods, put cheesecake in the fridge to keep him fresh and edible so I may enjoy him later on

[empty steppe]

IM BEING BULLIED

[tender shore]

YOU'RE BEING TENDERIZED

[next quest]

Are there no active Asian rg servers at all?

[tender shore]

Their should be yeah

I wouldn't be able help since you're PC player tho

[arctic rampart]

Went on circles lvl 50+ tonight... The only lvl 50+ thing I saw was the name

[lost junco]

Is anyone else getting random ppl from this server sending them friend requests and DMs?

[arctic rampart]

Nope, not really

[finite berry]

not me

[covert elbow]

Probably bots

[tender shore]

Yeah I have been receiving those but it's usually from people too shy to speak in the chat that want to ask questions

[wintry thistle]

It's been happening to me pretty often from other servers

They've been about art commissions

I got one from a server 100x smaller than this one

It's kinda just luck of the draw

[finite berry]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1165369525231947946/1357469841790865510/tenor.gif

Those are so annoying

[covert elbow]

Can I haz art

[wind shore]

https://discord.com/channels/316459644476456962/1351657361336434708

[worthy charm]

Get in the line, I wanted to eat him weeks ago...😑

[tall kettle]

❕** STEAM MAINTENANCE** ❕
Tuesdays 3PM-6PM PDT
Tuesdays 6PM-9PM EST
Tuesdays 10PM-3AM GMT
Wednesdays 8AM-11AM AEST

Some players may experience the following issues during Steam's routine maintenance:

• EAC Notifications
• False Bans
• No Servers Showing
• Player Level Resets

[empty steppe]

Okay bud

This is getting out of hand

There

Now I’m not edible

[covert elbow]

Mmmmh… yummy minerals

[empty steppe]

NO

[frail heart]

Might just be bots get them all over discord. Just be careful incase they are scams 🙂

[empty steppe]

All the time…

It’s annoying

[slate canopy]

All the time? Yikes.

[empty steppe]

Most of the time it’s just people asking about suggestion stuff, it’s so random

[slate canopy]

Do you have DM filters?

[empty steppe]

Now i do

👍

[slate canopy]

👍 I have it to just people who aren't my friends are filtered for spam so I really don't get anything.

[empty steppe]

But here’s the thing, messing with people is kinda fun sometimes 🤭😉

Anyways

[slate canopy]

Maybee.. but eh

[empty steppe]

Understandable

[slate canopy]

I've gotten over the whole messing/trolling people... now with friends? 😎 👉 👉 Fair game

[covert elbow]

I get pretty rarely DM-ed

[slate canopy]

ಠ‿ಠ Time to DM.

[covert elbow]

Real

[worthy charm]

Omg, do I get to be hulk if I eat you?

Now I want it even more!

[oak current]

you might turn green for sure

[nova pivot]

They tried to eat you and I wasn't here to defend you, I'm sorry. 😞😞😞

[empty steppe]

Naaaaaah

[empty steppe]

man Sparta you gotta be on your game, I’m getting clobbered out here 😭😭😭

[covert elbow]

*slobbered

[empty steppe]

Ayo

[wind shore]

Can I get a few cheesecakes, sir?

[tall kettle]

❕** STEAM MAINTENANCE NOW ENDING** ❕
Tuesdays 3PM-6PM PDT
Tuesdays 6PM-9PM EST
Tuesdays 10PM-3AM GMT
Wednesdays 8AM-11AM AEST

Steam maintenance has now ended but some issues may still remain until a game restart

• EAC Notifications
• False Bans
• No Servers Showing
• Player Level Resets

[empty steppe]

No

[past vortex]

how about some yellowcake

[covert elbow]

Dude yellowcake is so good

[empty steppe]

Sure 👍

That stuff is mighty fire

[covert elbow]

(Mods change his name to yellowcake it’d be really funny)

[empty steppe]

No

[tender shore]

Ja

[drifting ridge]

I would expect servers to have a level 100+ limit by now

[cedar arrow]

what happen when a team build all nodes inside HQ ?

[dawn python]

is game dead or good?

[finite berry]

Good

[slender canyon]

Can’t wait to play hell let loose this evening

[next quest]

theres barely

1 at all

[arctic rampart]

Nothing.
They generate resources as always.

More experienced people always prefer to build nodes further into the defensive lines, most preferably - the HQ.
That decreases the odds that recon will go and destroy them.

The only reason everyone doesn't do it, simply because 90% of nodes are built with supplies from a supply truck. This truck cannot drop its supplies from the back within the first two columns/rows on a map.
So the only ways of getting supplies are either through a commander supply call-in or a support dropping his 50 (then doing it 2 more times with diff supports, same support etc.)

[cedar arrow]

Ok thank you for this 🙏

[silk igloo]

Prefer to have one manpower node near the front so supports can double their rate of supplies. People like to complain about nodes outside of HQ, but it's kind of irrelevant. If you cant hold a point, even a million resources wouldn't matter.

[analog apex]

but a manpower node in HQ means one can redeploy to HQ and get the box refreshed and redeploy back to the front at OP

I do it every time I see a manpower node in HQ, after using my box

I wish the nodes had actual influence on the frontline so they wouldn't need to be in HQ, but at this time, it's better if they are just there

[silk igloo]

I'd rather patrol and fight around than look at the death and deployment screen for 40+ seconds

[analog apex]

no if your goal is to make a garrison

either your goal is to fight or to risk it and wait for the box cooldown

[silk igloo]

No need to redeploy if you got the node nearby. You're just losing time with that.

[analog apex]

redeployment is fast and easy

[analog apex]

nodes are usually never that close

[arctic rampart]

Nodes helping refresh supply box is cool and all, but if I'm relying on my support solely with a node to fund the thing I'm trying to do in terms of supplies on the front line, something's seriously busted in the team.

[analog apex]

even if it was just in a coumpound 100m next to us, then it would already be faster to do the redeployment instead of running there

*instead of running there and MAYBE getting there (or get killed on the way), while with the redeployment it's a guaranteed win

[silk igloo]

If you get shot by going to the node you just found the enemy, two birds with one stone

[analog apex]

I didn't mean just an enemy right next to the node

[silk igloo]

It does work though, a frontline node. All that time I spend there instead of the death screen is also time spent spotting airdrops, enemy tanks, flanks etc.

[analog apex]

+if you build nodes outside the HQ, it means they will eventually self-destruct if the sector line with the nodes is lost. having them in HQ means they will stay till the end of the round, and disappear only if they get found by somebody.

+the lost nodes are usually far from being rebuilt immediately, takes time to get Engies moving again - by building them in HQ, you save the resources too and allow people to redeploy there to cut the box timer as well.

[analog apex]

it's all the time your SL is waiting for a box to build a garri, a garri your team may darely need fast
by waiting for the cooldown or not making it alive to the frontline node you are helping the enemy more than if you are on a deathscreen

[silk igloo]

Also I think most people would rather run to a nearby node than redeploy since it's so annoying. They might not even notice the effect of the node giving them a boost if it's near a garrison. And it's only one manpower node I'm talking about, I can easily rebuild it.

[analog apex]

you maybe can
but 95% of the peeps can't

If you are talking it from the Engi aka builder perspective, build them wherever you want as if you will rebuild it fast when lost. If talking from just the passive user (nonEngi) perspective, impossible to advocate for the frontline nodes.

and I doubt you play Engi all the time - for achieving what you say (in the timely manner), you would have to

[silk igloo]

It does work though. Brilliantly so, I always have more supplies than anyone has need for. Multiply that with the amount of squads in the area and people wouldn't even need supply drops and trucks for anything they want to build, except bunkers which would take 7 supports.

By redeploying, you'd take an entire squad out of combat for +40 seconds

[analog apex]

the redeployment for the HQ box cooldown cut, it takes to redeploy just the Support, not the whole squad

[cosmic pilot]

Jairion has a point

[silk igloo]

If every support in the team did that I mean. Generally you got 6+ squads, so you'd have 6 or more people getting out of combat just because people don't want to "risk" a single manpower node

[analog apex]

having the node next to the garri as you say, means that when you as Support use the box elsewhere and you want to build another garrison with your SL fast, it means you will be at least 200m+ away from this node and therefore that makes the HQ node redeployment a more viable option as it wil lbe much faster than running to it once more.

[silk igloo]

What's the speed nowadays, is it still 42 seconds to cross 200m? Or was this before they slowed it down

[analog apex]

even if it was 20 (which isn't), it would be faster to redeploy - one doesn't have to just run to the frontline node, he would have to get back to his SL to from it

[silk igloo]

Could just get yourself killed and spawn near the node. It's not a waste because there's always gaps to check on the way.

[analog apex]

only if you would be catching the spawnwave on that garrison. And that's a big IF. While again - doing it with HQ, it's a guaranteed fast under 10s always. And spawnign back at OP which is under 20... instead of the garri's 40.

[silk igloo]

Either way, it's a powerful boost that doesn't cost your team anything even if you do lose it. Airheads cost 400 manpower and nobody complains when commanders thrown them like dice, and they fail most of the time

[analog apex]

he has point only as long as he is working with the players that are aware of the effects and are activelly using it in their favour

try it with the mindless zombies, HLL is full which almost all the pub time

ones that don't speak or react either xD

[silk igloo]

And airheads fail most of the time when the enemy uses them because I can hear them coming, because I'm there. If I spent 40 seconds in the death screen every 150 seconds just to get the same buff, there's a big chance I wouldn't be there to hear anything.

[arctic rampart]

Hey! I complain...

[analog apex]

that may be, but that doesn't change the fact that it is faster to use the HQ node. And there are 49 other people the people that can be dumb when it comes to knowing the game's mechanics... but even the zombies and nonZombie nonSupport players can hear and see an airhead

[worthy charm]

The amount of bad airheads in the average pub game is one of the things that really scares me.

Especially if they work anyway...🥲

[analog apex]

from using it as CMD or from the enemy using it? xD

[silk igloo]

33% chance for it to fail, work, or drain all your defenders and lose your point

[worthy charm]

Like my CMD places one inside the enemy cap and its locked instantly...

[analog apex]

well, that's a stupidity on his part

also there are maps (or strongpoint locations) that are pretty airhead-safe (like... not possible to send it anywhere close to the point and forced into the open at the same time)

[silk igloo]

also sam, there's nothing stopping me from using a transport truck to get to and from the node, i've done that too. mini-supply truck 🤪

[quiet vigil]

sup

[worthy charm]

FR, I dont think I have ever seen a air head fail when the enemy throws one down on the cliff in remagen. There is just no one who wants to go up there an clean that thing out.😭

[analog apex]

and where you get the transport truck? I doubt it will be waiting for you right where you need. At least not 95% of the time.

and there's nothing easier than to shoot a defenceless driver

too much risk invloved, while the HQ node respawn, is once more a guarantee

[worthy charm]

Get supply truck reacted.

[silk igloo]

for the times when there's one left on the field. they're underrated too, they work really well as mobile barricades. and if the enemy doesnt happen to have rocket launchers or MGs, you can simply reverse into them and they cant do anything. trust me, it works

[analog apex]

this... most likely the only trucks will be at the HQ, so better to take the Supply one if one rly wants to take a truck

[analog apex]

Sry, I don't.

they work as long as the enemy team is full of incompetent MGs... which is something I break as an MG myself

[silk igloo]

even if they do kill you it's an extra cover your team can use. better than meatgrinding

[analog apex]

depends on where I choose the truck to stop (aka where I decide to kill the driver at)

if an enemy is making a mistake, it's best not to interrupt him until it's late and in favour of me/our team

such a "cover" in a mid of the field is a nice lure for the enemies to try to get to it... just to have no way out either or die before reaching it

I guess all of us have different strategies that work under different circumstances.

enough of texting though, gonna play some

[wind shore]

[cosmic pilot]

I am the forefront authority on truckplay and I can reassure you everyone is underestimating how good they are.

[arctic rampart]

100%

A very simple thing such as proper transport truck utility can result in steamrolls w/o the requirement of recons being in place with a supply drop. A simple 1-man squad lead with a transport truck and some map knowledge is the same thing.
Many times have I done insane rushes just because I deliver my guys to mid cap and then simply do a big moon shape flank to the enemies next cap in a transport

[olive fern]

How come Elsenborn and Tobruk dont have an achievement for x games played?

All the other maps (well aside from Mortain) have the achievement to 'Play 50 matches'

[arctic rampart]

Because development was short-sighted, just like the implementation of the spot/support xp

[polar prism]

Squad 44 Guadalcanal public playtest this weekend 🥳

[arctic rampart]

Broken Arrow launches in 20 days 🥳

[finite berry]

very excited already :D

[novel mantle]

🥳

[tulip pebble]

Getting ready for a 3rd date later this week guys.
Actually locked in

[strange basin]

Is there a wiki that isn't fandom.com?

[past veldt]

No. And the info there is usually out of date anyway

[strange basin]

yeah most people moved away from fandom cuz it's bad :/

[worthy charm]

If its the case and youre looking for informations about tanks look into the #1284762788488544266, shouldnt that be the case we got plently of infos in #1273828697941606450

I hope that help a bit

[strange basin]

thanks 😄

[past veldt]

There aren't really that many mechanics in the game. They're just all pretty much unexplained

[finite berry]

It's the same.

Ah, wait, misunderstood you

[past vortex]

its really a shame there isnt a good wiki

[strange basin]

https://wiki.gg/new-wiki a dedicated soldier could always make one :v

[empty steppe]

Love the tank bible 😂

[undone pivot]

a lot of cheaters in the game? with esp

[past veldt]

Yeah millions (no)

[wind shore]

I think there are above 10 billions players in HLL

If I’m not wrong about them

[past veldt]

Only a few over 10 billion

[dusty bolt]

Good morning chat

[real parrot]

https://tenor.com/view/yukari-akiyama-akiyama-yukari-yukari-girls-und-panzer-gup-gif-10732099197404957333

[gentle lintel]

1 in 7

[undone pivot]

is 50 kills in a game good? i was playing with class assault, 2 shot kill rifle and i started playing 4 days ago

[slate canopy]

I'd say it's pretty good

[wintry thistle]

Girls und Panzer!!!

[storm stratus]

Its decent. Look at the combat scores to get a rough gauge one how your performing. Tho it can have many varying factors its still an ok way to judge how your going.

[willow crater]

how do youget sum1 kicked on HLL server?

[real parrot]

Well it depends, if you're new its pretty good

[willow crater]

lots of complaints in regards to 1 guy aimbot on HLL europe 4

[slate canopy]

Sadly we can't do anything about official servers.

You can report them to Team17, but that's about it.

[real parrot]

Official servers have no moderation, play on community servers instead

[slate canopy]

Please don't give names. We don't allow witch hunting 😉

[willow crater]

well you she see what this guy is doing on defense on last point on map Elsenborn. Shooting through trees and tenst

he is on everybody's nemsis stats now

2903 score for kills

[real parrot]

My English may be bad but my eyes hurt from reading you tbh

[slate canopy]

Sooo leave the server, play on another. We can't do anything. Feel free to take screenshots and report them to Team17.
https://team17.helpshift.com/hc/en/5-hell-let-loose/faq/678-reporting-a-player-on-hell-let-loose/#steam,-epic-&-game-pass-reports

[covert elbow]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-gif-27483410

[rain lark]

It feels like there are a lot of wallhackers

[buoyant apex]

im new here hello

[analog apex]

I am old here, hello 🙂

[buoyant apex]

how do you feel about the gif posted just above this chat?

[analog apex]

I can't say I like that kind of cartoons.

I mean anime

[buoyant apex]

the style or the content in the images?

whats not to like?

[analog apex]

the anime style

[buoyant apex]

anything else i shouldnt know about you?

[analog apex]

I eat the HLL babies and come to haunt them during the night beforehand.

[wintry thistle]

https://tenor.com/view/i-drive-drive-my-car-gif-7675608

[pale verge]

Hi! Does anyone know anything about their plans for updates? I tought they were adding finnish forces to the game but it has been 5 years now after i heard about it

[night lark]

There is a roadmap if you check #telegrams

Also monthly dev briefs think which have been great

#telegrams message

[novel geyser]

They also did a qna the Finnish were shelved indefinitely due to backlash over the handling of previous updates and a certain trailer.

[night lark]

The trailer that shall not be named. Thats what happens when you bin your QA guys

[silk igloo]

why do they announce PTEs on facebook but not here

[finite berry]

Bin their QAs?

[analog apex]

@fluid pawn eeeh? ☝️ 😏

[tender shore]

[analog apex]

I had no idea there is going to be PTE this weekend either if I didn't look at the HLL facebook right now.

[silk igloo]

damn, they just dont like us

[analog apex]

First black point for Ben! 😵 😮
(assuming it's his field of jurisdiction)

[silk igloo]

i cant imagine why

https://tenor.com/view/muppet-family-christmas-muppets-sesame-street-laughing-laugh-gif-15746499

[worthy charm]

How old are you again? 31/32?

Thats not that old

[analog apex]

I meant old as HLL veteran 🙂 , that's why I used "here" word.

[worthy charm]

Im not wrong tho #mess-hall message

xD

I see everything👀

[analog apex]

you are... I am not 31 nor 32 😛

Christ's years

[worthy charm]

Yea my math is as great as always

[analog apex]

yep, the rest of us are educated... we all know very well that 5+5 is 11 xD

[night lark]

Turn of phrase, i cant remember if it was TF17 or the other devs but they gutted their QA department

[finite berry]

Thanks

[novel geyser]

T17 had layoffs of QA after the trailer I believe and that ended up extending much further which is why they put wombat medic in the blender

[cyan saddle]

https://fxtwitter.com/hell_let_loose/status/1927758330765664610

Hell Let Loose (@hell_let_loose)

📢 Our next PTE is this weekend!
︀︀
︀︀📆 On Friday, we'll drop the full dev briefing on our official channels, detailing everything coming in Update 17.1.

**💬 13 🔁 9 ❤️ 188 👁️ 11.8K **

FxTwitter · May 28, 2025, 4:06 PM

dev soon?

Okay Ben, okay

[dusty bolt]

Good evening chat

We all miss Wombat. T17 did her dirty

[fluid pawn]

yeah that's my bad! hadn't pressed enter on the posts 😅

[fluid pawn]

Will be dropping the beef alongisde the PTE going live tomorrow

Will then have another brief next week prior to the Objective Mode PTE

[analog apex]

happens to all of us sometimes 😄

Black point removed heh

[fluid pawn]

what you mean by this sorry? ahah

[granite nexus]

[vale garnet]

I once again suggest reverting to the old vault system thanks

[arctic rampart]

I once again suggest to let us post images in mess hall, update the tactical map functionality and improve SL QoL functionalities.

[dusty bolt]

https://tenor.com/view/flight-flightreacts-flight-reacts-shocked-dumb-gif-6313022364613646356

[real parrot]

Make commander able to kick SL of their role

[thorny acorn]

tapir

!

[real parrot]

Also remove all embed perms for all the medic mains

[night lark]

As an admin, i have booted non talky SLs who werent doing anything. Its very funny when you get a complaints discord ticket afterwards

[real parrot]

Skill issue, if no mic why playing the game anyways

[finite berry]

Extremely based

[night lark]

Our server rules clearly state all Squad leads must have mics and communicate in English. It rarely gets enforced if the SL is atleast using the OPs and building garrisons

[wind shore]

So as I understand developers will join this PTE?

[arctic rampart]

You wanna go and spam that you have russian-themed maps suggested in the servers chat?

[empty steppe]

No, no, let him cook 👨‍🍳

[pine ember]

Can we please get some new ones like Kholm?

[cosmic pilot]

I have a suggestion.
First 3 faction map
Germany and ussr vs Poland in the middle of the map.

[nova pivot]

"But that would not be a map of the Second World War. The Second World War began in 1941"

[boreal umbra]

is PTE for selected people or can anyone join? if not is there a way to watch it?

[cosmic pilot]

Man thinks WW2 started after France was occupied 💀

[night lark]

Ww2 didnt start until December 7th 1941 s/

[wind shore]

I think I don’t need to spam it, each player seen them already

There is PTE about new features

I’m patiently waiting for some new updates like maybe new tank which was announced , new prototype of tank

[deft peak]

Will the best of comp be uploaded of some kind so it can be viewed later?

[fluid pawn]

Yep, just like how the previous one was 🙂
https://youtu.be/s7DiG03yJMo?si=ZcIgqDaRciXnWU1H

[dusty bolt]

Good morning chat

[wind shore]

Good morning

[oak current]

think its only people on steam, since one needs the seperate executable client for it.
WIll be streamed by a few people I'd assume - if not, I'll be streaming it surely

[winter rover]

PTE already?

What will we see in it?

Updated Stalingrad? Danzig? New medic, prone features?

[finite berry]

Still curious to see whether there will be more significant changes to the medic, because the current ones won't change the core problem of it lol

[winter rover]

That's the Russian saying, for them WW2 began in 1941 when Germany invaded them. The invasion of Poland and the Winter War were just them reclaiming their lands back/border skirmishes

[finite berry]

"""""their lands"""""

Can't wait until the Mongols "reclaim" half of Asia and Europe because it was "their lands" 700 years ago

[cosmic pilot]

""""our land"''""

[past vortex]

just connection queue display fixed

[past vortex]

there is no medic problem

[deft peak]

Perfect :3

[finite berry]

https://tenor.com/view/chernobyl-i-prefer-my-opinion-to-yours-ussr-soviet-union-belarus-gif-27686525

[wind shore]

We already see on DEV blog photo that Stalingrad has sunny variation of weather, nice!

[empty steppe]

Well… say if anything cool gets talked about

[nova pivot]

What will be on tomorrow's PTE?

[past vortex]

connection queue display fixed

[real parrot]

Bugs showcase

[wind shore]

Right

[wind shore]

Can you post it please on YouTube channel

The last twitch stream

Please, Ben

[empty steppe]

Did uh… we get anything remotely interesting?

[wind shore]

Yes, I recommended you to watch all their streams

[empty steppe]

I don’t got that kinda time

[wind shore]

Time to time some things hide inside those streams

Little details about content

[empty steppe]

Fun…

[worthy charm]

https://tenor.com/view/go-and-get-it-man-cool-hand-luke-what-are-you-waiting-for-like-a-boss-get-it-now-gif-18029919

Didnt watch it either 😅

[arctic rampart]

Someone needs to write up a bullet point from the stream

Eyooo

Why Benny boys got the mattress up against the wall? 🤔

[wind shore]

He said

I don’t remember word by word

Let’s re watch stream on YT

[arctic rampart]

Okay, skipped over the stream. Two important things. PTE is coming and Objective mode info will be released soon, that's about it.

Hopefully the "Objective" gamemode is not gonna be another case of Skirmish and a new set of 100 gamemode specific rules to remember for new guys

[wind shore]

Hopefully it wouldn’t be skirmish

[pine ember]

Most people dont have the time to watch them

[real parrot]

So we now have 15 min squirmish in a map that is a literal hallway 🗣️ 🍆

[fluid pawn]

Ahaha it's because I don't have a big enough room for it to be out of view currently 😂

Hoping to redo the office soon 🙏🏻

[gentle lintel]

damn

that's rough

[nova pivot]

I'm eager to see what's in the PTE, I find it curious that in the publicity photo it appears carentan

🤔🤔🤔

[arctic rampart]

And here I was hoping you're roleplaying a ww2 soldier against the wall :/

[fluid pawn]

Excited to see your thoughts on what's coming 🫡

[wind shore]

Ben, please can you add it on YT

last stream, cause on twitch scrolling doesn’t work normally

[fluid pawn]

Will do. Just finished eating dinner. Will head back to the PC soon

[wind shore]

Bon appetite!

Thank you !

[dense jewel]

101st Airborne SECRET D-Day Exercise
https://youtu.be/LqgeWEMJMUI

[wind shore]

You can send it in WW2 history channel also

There is whole thread for it

Interesting to watch this

In mess hall it would hide between messages maybe

@dense jewel

[desert owl]

Happy to see more news and such posted

[fluid pawn]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cYiKKL0wzAI

Full VOD is live on YouTube now 🙂

[wind shore]

Thank you , Ben!

[fluid pawn]

No worries at all 🙂 Now, bed time ahah

Catch y'all in the morning!

Can't wait for the PTE 🙌

[wind shore]

Same

[gusty leaf]

.divagree

[slate canopy]

try agan with div not dev 😉

no edit

[gusty leaf]

Lol

[slate canopy]

it won't recognize it.

[gusty leaf]

Thnx bro lol

[slate canopy]

Sure ting

[north oracle]

yooyooyoy

whats up guyss

[slate canopy]

👋 Hello hello

[north oracle]

hello, how are you today??

[slate canopy]

I'm doing allright... ready for it to be Friday so it can be the weekend soon.

How about yourself?

[north oracle]

im doing good hahahahaha

it's going to be international hug your cat day tomorrow

so im glad

[slate canopy]

😮

I gotta give my two kitties huggies tomorrow 😄

I am excited to play some HLL this weekend.

[balmy spruce]

What kind of game is this?

[nova pivot]

A social simulator similar to the Sims

[analog apex]

WWII 1st person shooter that combines both hardcore+realistic and casual+arcade elements

[nova pivot]

😑😑How boring you are

[analog apex]

if truth = boring to you, then... yep I am glad I am boring to you (meaning YOU)

[empty steppe]

Gambling

[empty steppe]

The truth is gambling

[strange basin]

How do y'all tell enemy from ally at a distance? I've set nameplates to the highest distance but last night I nearly mowed down a group of allies who I thought were enemies.. is there a setting for ally nameplates to not fade out? they all just look like green blobs to me

[analog apex]

the range of 500m, is the maximum available setting, them getting smaller the farther they are is not possible to change

the characters render only up to 500m and if you aim at them, the friendly nameplate will appear big even if it's so small when not aiming at the man

[strange basin]

But there isn't a setting to keep the blue dots up at all times when they're in my view?

[analog apex]

you mean for the friendly icons to stay the same big no matter the distance? no, that's not possible

and as I said, the characters render only up to 500m anyway

beyond that distance, your bullets will therefore go through them too I believe and you can get killed only by some splash damage from further than that (by a tank or AT gun for instance)

[strange basin]

Ohwell 🤷 I'm even wearing my glasses and I mistook a garry for a tank the other day from the angle I was sat at

Pinged my squad and got the AT guy down there even

[analog apex]

Well, garries are way smaller than any tank so... eeeh...

[strange basin]

Right but from the angle I was sat at.. 😂

[analog apex]

practice with identifying stuff and you will get better over time

[strange basin]

I thought the chest on the left was the bonnet

OR well not bonnet, whatever the front bit on a tank is called

shooty bit

[analog apex]

mantlet maybe?

the part that is around the gun's tube

anyway, the more you play the better you will get at identifying the stuff

from any angle heh

[potent storm]

when pte start?

[rain lark]

How long till unreal 5 engine update?

[finite berry]

Never

UE5 is overrated as f uck anyway

[rain lark]

Really? i just played oblivion remastered and it looked really good

[novel geyser]

Might look all good and pretty but the engine is still pants

[finite berry]

Plus, it's not like an upgrade to UE5 will make everything automatically look better

[rain lark]

Squad looks great ue5 update

[finite berry]

That doesn't mean every other game would too

[rain lark]

Why not

[finite berry]

Because a game that wasn't built for UE5 would need all its assets being remade for UE5, which would require pretty much a remake of the entire game

Meaning that the effort just isn't worth it

[rain lark]

Nah hell is ue4

They have ways to port the game to 5

[finite berry]

No

[rain lark]

https://dev.epicgames.com/documentation/en-us/unreal-engine/unreal-engine-5-migration-guide

[finite berry]

Too much effort, too little pay-off

[worthy charm]

The game is already buggy as it is now and the grapics are fine. For better visuals they could finally ad better death animations, make more tank Wracks and better explosions for tanks (when they get hit/hit something else/when they blow up). For nothing of this you need UE5.

You should consider its work to be done and people are as always crying about no fixes/content...

Maybe they could move on the ladder on the UE4 Version. I dont know how much work that would be for how much pay-off...

[analog apex]

I would love HLL to get the engine upgraded too but... yep, for an engine upgrade of this scale, the game would need to work relatively flawlessly first. In its current broken state however, it's just not possible as it would create way more broken stuff and a probable revert imminent.

Also, the current HLL dev team has still a long way to go to prove it would be capable of such an undertaking to begin with.

[rain lark]

True

They need to remove the 200m can’t place garrison cuz close to similar structure

[novel geyser]

They need to remove garrisons

[worthy charm]

https://tenor.com/view/i-see-you-gif-12132780510830100725

[spice zodiac]

When exactly will the PTE Release 15:00, 14:00?

[arctic rampart]

What the actual fack is this take? You got like 20 mins in the game or something?

[fluid pawn]

Will be dropping this afternoon 🙂 Aiming for it to go live at <t:1748613600:t> <t:1748613600:R>

[spice zodiac]

thx ben

@fluid pawn

[latent bramble]

Hi can someone help, i stuck in the main screen for a while (a soldier with forefront war), first time play. I uninstalled and redo on SSD but still cant

[vivid temple]

Will this feature the refresh?

[oak current]

whats a refresh?

[vivid temple]

stalingrad refresh mate

[oak current]

aaaah THAT refresh

[fluid pawn]

No Stalingrad in this one I'm afraid. You can find out a bit more about the Stalingrad updates in the last Dev Brief however 🙂
https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/686810/view/512958375408959618

[silk igloo]

if you mistook it as a tiger then it's just historically accurate

[nova pivot]

So what is the PTE about?

Medics and bipods?

[fluid pawn]

All the stuff that will be coming as part of the 17.1 patch. Dev brief will be released at the same time as the PTE going live 🫡

[analog apex]

Is "Desert rat" achievement bugged too? I was a part of the crew that destroyed at least 5 tanks on Tobruk, but got +0, checked even 30m after the match ended...

like... what isn't bugged in this game xD

[silk igloo]

we could ask the coders but they're locked up in T17 basement

[nova pivot]

Same on console

[analog apex]

happened several times already

I should have been somewhere at 15-20 of 25, I am still at 4 instead

Like... I want to believe and trust these devs so much, but when seeing like they can't get even a simple achievement counter right... can't get feeling any other than bad.

[silk igloo]

Could be related to steam. Didnt jambax suspect the loadout bug to be a steam issue too? Did we ever get an explanation for why it happened?

[analog apex]

I doubt it had anything to do with Steam honestly

achievements are activated by the same kind of code the rest of the game logic is... usually

What my gameplays had in common when I didn't get the tank kills for the achievement - I played as the British. I could guess the devs didn't pay attention and set it for playing as the GER only.

[frank axle]

underrated comment

but now for real they should increase the spawn time to make the medic role more important

[worthy charm]

Thats a hot topic here, many would disagree with that.

Making the experience for anyone else worse to improve medic is somewhat controversial

ANYWAY whos ready for the PTE?!?

[gray garden]

no. punishing players that are already waiting 20, 40, 60 seconds at a time to play their vidya game because someone wants to larp hacksaw ridge is a horrible idea.

the only way to make medic anything more than a funny larp role is to introduce tickets. which would not work on warfare.

[finite berry]

That still wouldn't really tackle the problem

[finite berry]

Exactly, and that's what must happen. Any other change to medic is pointless.

[frank axle]

do you know when the brief will come out?

[silk igloo]

Slowly replenishing pool of individual tickets for classes like AR, assault and MG. Then waiting for a medic would make sense when playing as them - you're waiting for replenishment and a revive.

[worthy charm]

#mess-hall message

[frank axle]

ah thank you

[finite berry]

There should be an overall pool of tickets imo. With chances to replenish them in some way.

[gray garden]

Not happening. Not for warfare, any way. Maybe if it is introduced to skirmish or offensive or the new objective mode. But warfare is the competitive standard and tickets just don't fit into competitive, skilled based play.

[finite berry]

Tickets won't happen in general. Which is why medic always will stay a meme class.

[placid axle]

what's gonna be in the PTE?

[fluid pawn]

https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/686810/view/528722148165944105

Dev Brief for PTE is up now. Servers will go live in around 20 minutes

[vivid temple]

wow, that's alot for one "small" update. Nice job

[fluid pawn]

It was not a brief 'brief' to write up that's for sure!

[worthy charm]

DX12 Support? 👀

nice

[vivid temple]

wasn't it always like that?

[lucid ingot]

i’d love if they did a general historical accuracy update, where they keep certain weapons and vehicles to certain maps. or even just make that a separate game mode. I know they’ve been doing that more recently, but Stalingrad would be 10x more immersive if it was just T-34s and Panzer 4s and no STGs. Maybe i’m just a nerd

[glacial hare]

Be cool if the current devs took advantage of the fact they own an amazing game and actually start giving a damn about it. So much ignored opportunity🤦🏽‍♂️

[worthy charm]

That was unofficial. It was possible, but not optimized.

-# I think

[half raptor]

I haven't played this game in so long

[past veldt]

https://tenor.com/view/superb-idea-superb-idea-cat-thumbs-up-cat-gif-18270110337435478324

[finite berry]

Have fun reworking entire classes and replacing 9/10 (semi-)automatic weapons with bolt-action rifles

[past veldt]

17.1 looks good

[finite berry]

Not to mention tanks

[gusty lichen]

did they really not update the medic loadouts or the amount of ammo a medic can carry 💔😭

[finite berry]

Which would be incredibly based, ngl

[finite berry]

It's pointless anyway ^^

[lucid ingot]

fr, why go with the IS-1 when there was like 200 made. KV-1 would’ve been much better. And same w German armor. Leaves a lot to be desired.

[polar prism]

Well, you need something to kill a Tiger

[silk igloo]

Wow, aiming up with the bipod now is essentially the same as crouching down to dodge fire. That's neat.

[finite berry]

Now imagine if tanks were actually somewhat realistic in regards to penetration and armour values and not below the level of World of Tanks...

[polar prism]

Maybe they'll improve the tank system since it's in the road map

[finite berry]

I'm genuinely really curious to see what their "rework" of tanks will be

[polar prism]

Let's at least hope they give the tanks an accurate number of crew member spots

[finite berry]

True, but that wouldn't change anything about how dumbed down armour values and stuff are

[silk igloo]

"Players can now retain voice communications for the Leadership and Squad channels during the post-match flow"

helll yeah

[thin scarab]

who asked for filters for admin cam ?

[finite berry]

Admins

https://tenor.com/view/drake-gif-25177956

[cedar ore]

Idk but I’m not complaining, is it only for admin cam or can it just be enabled for anyone

[thin scarab]

only admin cam

[cedar ore]

Honestly I would probably use it for shits and gigs

[cedar ore]

aw man

Tbf seems like a pretty good update, plus the medic update is definitely an improvement, but honestly don’t know if it will encourage people to use it much more

[thin scarab]

Explore Tab is a big W

[cedar ore]

oh yeah 100%

Also I like that they’re introducing the weather to other maps, honestly I just like those little things, makes the game just feel much nicer

and ofc the LOD issues fix is awesome too, hell let loose LODs have always been a pain, ESPECIALLY in tanks and you hit that invisible wall 🫩

[thin scarab]

new Rcon stuff also Big W

[silk igloo]

how does a 0.1 update have this much great things in it, the hell

[cedar ore]

I’m still super excited for the new game mode tbh

I love it in post scriptum, so I know it’ll be awesome in hll

[finite berry]

What new game mode?

[humble perch]

Map exploration without the need of server.

[finite berry]

Ah, thanks

[nova pivot]

who is making a live? i cant acces the PTE from my console 🥺

[cedar ore]

It’s not in this update, but it was mentioned they were working on one of those destroy objectives type game modes

I think in a previous brief, they showed it off a bit

[thin scarab]

pte is pc only

[nova pivot]

i kown, that is why i am asking

[finite berry]

Thank you :D

[humble perch]

Steam only, I believe.

[analog apex]

yup

let's go!

[nova pivot]

So is anyone going to do a live stream?

[arctic rampart]

Holy sheet

[analog apex]

I do a stream of every single match I play, but always privately 😛

[arctic rampart]

The PTE changes are actually.... damn I'm afraid to say it.....

pretty good

[nova pivot]

Just use GPT chat, who cares, you're already an AI

[arctic rampart]

Does AI have a mattress on the wall? Yeah, I doubt it

[humble perch]

Could AI sleep vertically?

[arctic rampart]

No

But our boy Benny can

[nova pivot]

It's a very well done AI

Have you ever seen him in person?

No, because it's an AI

[snow pond]

Is the new destruction game mode 50v50? or is it cut down like it was supposed to be back when "We've taken the OP" trailer came out.

[arctic rampart]

T17 ain't gonna support fan meetups

[fluid pawn]

You're so right. I really should make use of my AI-ness more often...

[fluid pawn]

Matress if vertical as I don't need to sleep, just recharge

[fluid pawn]

My fans are just there to cool the CPU

[gentle lintel]

basically a vampire

[silk igloo]

its funny how small things like post-match voip and flexible warm-up and match times are so amazing. Three hour warfare matches, imagine

[wind shore]

Will be another PTE on 6 June, right?

[silk igloo]

five hour offensive matches

[finite berry]

No idea, don't ask me 😄 I don't play the game

[analog apex]

This patch seems to be going a great one if there will not be any bad surprises. Looks rly decent and filled with great stuff (except for the medical stuff [cough caugh] ) 😄 .

[wind shore]

I would like it

[gentle lintel]

https://tenor.com/view/dracula-wake-up-good-morning-gif-24728258

[fluid pawn]

Yep, the objective mode PTE is next weekend

[gentle lintel]

^ben rising from the mattress

[wind shore]

Thank you!!

Are we be able to try Danzig hope soooo!!!

[cedar ore]

Holy peak

[wind shore]

I’m waiting for it cause it’s 1939 and it’s really early setting

[fluid pawn]

https://tenor.com/view/were-gonna-cook-for-yall-today-jake-danteh-houston-outlaws-outlaws-gif-23804789

[cedar ore]

Will there be different guns is the real question

[humble perch]

It's for testing the game mode that's on the map.

[silk igloo]

More likely that it's 1945.

[cedar ore]

I want loads of guns

[wind shore]

1945?(

[wind shore]

Post office battle was in 1939

Battle of town was in 1945

[silk igloo]

Wouldnt make sense for soviets and germans to fight there in 1939... we aint getting the poles

[finite berry]

I want only bolt-action rifles and a few light machine guns for Danzig if it's 1939

the ultimate git gud map

[wind shore]

And maybe 1 AT gun, they had AT guns

[fluid pawn]

https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/686810/view/512958375408959618

There's some info on the objective mode in the previous dev brief, however I'll drop the full objective mode brief on Tuesday or Wednesday next week 🙂

[nova pivot]

Tuesday please♥️

[wind shore]

Thank you!

[cedar ore]

Nothing regarding new guns :(

[arctic rampart]

My impressions thus far:

• Medic stuff will be neat, make it a bit more useful, but still not fix the core issue of it really :/ I'm doubtful medic will be prioritized over any other role within a squad still.
• Bipod stuff is cool, but seeing the video, I did get a tiny fear that insanely overpowered head-glitching spots will be utilized, since it seemed youc an shoot through small bumps in the video, so some small obstruction, whilst still being bi-pod-able will be broken af.
• Camo stuff, always f-ing awesome, vehicle mains deserve it.
• LoD stuff, is stuff that I've mostly never really cared about and learned to play around in combat situations, but I really, really appreciate some effort being placed into fixing them, seeing as it's a long-term issue within the game by now.
• Post match voip. Really, really nice. Absolutely pointless, but nice.
• Flare illumination. Couldn't give a lesser fack, probably one of ninjas suggestions for immersion or some console normie bs, but I'll take it, since it probs didn't take long to make anyway.
• lol practice range, don't give af
• Dynamic weather on more maps. Also a nice, atmospheric change that's a banter starter in a squad.
• Fog improvements are nice, but it also does feel a bit too clear now? Maybe just me? Cause it would fit a clear night, but then would foggy be a separate weather type? idk.
• Explore mode's nice. Will probably only use it once or twice when a new map comes out, but cooler to have it then to not have it.
• RCON stuff is huuuge. I remember asking when I was new about warmup time increase and was shocked when a server owner told me you can't change it. Good to see it being improved.

[snow pond]

PLZ keep it 50v50, splitting playercounts was never going to work.

[silk igloo]

I figure it's nice enough for them to salvage the map for a 1945 battle, instead of throwing it away with the poles. And if the poles come later, they can switch it to 1939

[arctic rampart]

What I think was missing:
https://discord.com/channels/316459644476456962/1377023431890960394
https://discord.com/channels/316459644476456962/1317572754769317909
https://discord.com/channels/316459644476456962/1201640079697911918
https://discord.com/channels/316459644476456962/1324804365986566164
https://discord.com/channels/316459644476456962/1168546537165561986
https://discord.com/channels/316459644476456962/1332112459162587146

As well as SL improvements such as being able to kick whilst alive and lock/unlock squad.

[wind shore]

Agree

[snow pond]

but the work to make the map was done for the polish faction...but you could be right, re-purposing of it makes sense too.

[cedar ore]

Agreed with basically all of this, especially the fog bit, it does look a little TOO clear now, but might play good, that’s what the PTEs are for ig

[silk igloo]

Less fog will make the maps much more coherent and easier to defend.

[finite berry]

If they made a Polish faction, that would greatly surprise me because it would require new uniforms, new vehicles and new weapons (both on the German and Polish side). On the other hand, if they made Danzig, but just made it Soviets vs Germans that would feel kind of... lazy

[snow pond]

They already were working on the polish faction when the roadmap got shitcanned.

[finite berry]

Wasn't that years ago?

[snow pond]

who knows how much of it gone done, the map is clearly in a playable state.

[wind shore]

It is separate faction definitely , Soviets and Germans for 1945

[snow pond]

where else has this new map coming from? The work done years ago on the polish faction.

[cedar ore]

Could have 2 versions of Danzig, 1939 and 1945, so we can play both, just change the map slightly for both and boom, but that’s a bit of a pain and definitely not that simple

[wind shore]

Polish Danzig post office officers and please some DLC for that map also!

[snow pond]

Danzig postoffice battle was very famous. It cant be anyone other than the poles.

[wind shore]

As I understand it is just map around post office

For 1945 requires bigger map + 2 new factions

[cedar ore]

Ohhhh right

[wind shore]

So let’s take 1939

It’s more interesting and time line is better

Than 1945

[humble perch]

Danzig is in the PTE for us to test it's specific game mode, it ain't getting released anytime soon.

[wind shore]

Yes of course maybe we don’t know

But we gonna see on PTE

[cedar ore]

is it in this coming PTE?

I thought it wasn’t in this one

[silk igloo]

not this week

[snow pond]

again, this game mode was the one designed to be released when the "OP" trailer came out. It was going to launch in June or July two years ago.

Said mode was a month away from release.

[covert elbow]

**** you

[snow pond]

See old roadmap: https://imgur.com/a/IZqy5h7

[analog apex]

just 6GB more...

after a long time, I am excited once again

[humble perch]

Never thought I would see a non-doomer Sam.

[analog apex]

Medic reviving faster is a bad move imo though, the same as probably the reviving into full health. It has been made way faster ever since some certain older update already. The other aspects of the game would need to change for make the people to want to wait for a medic.

In short - the changes on the medic class alone won't do by far.

[polar prism]

I'll never understand the decision making process behind the Danzig map

[arctic rampart]

Yeah, I agree with that take. Had the same one.
It'll make it less useless, but not even close to useful

[analog apex]

yep, it won't encourage the palyers to wait for a medic at all

more changes needed, outside the medic-class area

[winter rover]

big brain move

And what improvements are there for the medic system?

[analog apex]

But I am looking forward to new MG bipodding 🤩 FINALLY! ❤️

[covert elbow]

They aren’t even making it anymore

It’s on the PTE so they can salvage what they can from it

[winter rover]

They are though, they literally shoowed pics

[covert elbow]

Read one line above you

[finite berry]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but imo the issue with the medic is that there is no real incentive to wait for a revive. No amount of revive speed buff will change that-

[finite berry]

exactly, this

[winter rover]

Still making it

[covert elbow]

They could make revives instant and it wouldn’t do anything

[finite berry]

Exactly

[covert elbow]

They aren’t. They said in a livestream that there having it in a PTE to try out a gamemode

[finite berry]

The issue isn't on the medic-side, but on the non-medic-side

[covert elbow]

Yep

[winter rover]

idk man, the dev brief says otherwise

devs contradicting themselves, they probably realised they'd have to create a new faction so they lazied out 🤣

[wind shore]

THANK YOU FOR THE PTE!!!

[analog apex]

For waiting for a medic encouragement of the players, they could combine it with the rearming system:

• if player has waited less than 10 seconds for the medic and gives up, his ammo carries to the next life
• if player waited at least 10s, he respawns fully rearmed
• if he waited at least 20s, he spawns rearmed and also skipps the 10s deathscreen too

...or something in this sense

[modern skiff]

can i get a refund for this game please lol

i tought it was gonna be like squad 44 but it turned out to be somehow worse than ww2 games on roblox

[winter rover]

I want a refund, especially after when these devs took over

[thin scarab]

Give the Medic a better Weapon

[analog apex]

0 encouragement for the people to wait for him

[potent storm]

mg bipod on the roof is weird

[thin scarab]

This Doesnt Change anything. People will still not choose medic

[modern skiff]

litreally dude

squad 44 tops this game in everyway possible and has more content

[winter rover]

still needs an official russian front

[thin scarab]

Then Go to the S44 Discord Bye

[modern skiff]

eh i dont like eastern front tbh pacific is cool tho

[winter rover]

probably because it's early war

[thin scarab]

Bi pods work good now on Walls and stuff. Wanted to test Medic More Bit there was a Weird Zoo Comp Player sweating his B…. Of in the Server that only had 5 people

[cosmic pilot]

It's partially a lack of incentive, but I think it's mostly a lack of circumstances.
You said to correct you if you were wrong.

[arctic rampart]

Yeah, exactly.

[finite berry]

Turns the medic into a glorified rifleman, doesn't tackle the issue.

[arctic rampart]

Also the fact that their combat effectiveness is near 0

[finite berry]

Then go and play that? Their playtest for Guadalcanal starts in three hours.

[thin scarab]

How should they Improve the Medic ? Because this aint it

[finite berry]

Add tickets

[cosmic pilot]

F u

[finite berry]

No u

[analog apex]

Still can't deploy MG bipod on the wreckages of the destroyed enemy/freindly vehicles!
👎

[thin scarab]

Never

[finite berry]

Then the medic will remain useless

[finite berry]

Sams's optimism crushed

[cosmic pilot]

U r wrong

[thin scarab]

Then the only Option is to remove Medic as a Wohl

[cosmic pilot]

Be corrected

[finite berry]

Or add tickets. It's the only reliable way to make it an actually important class

[winter rover]

Where have they said they're only using Danzig as a test map for the new gamemode? All they're talking about is that there's gonna be a pte next week to test out the new game mode - and before the pte, they will release info about it on tuesday.
They haven't even mentioned danzig

[thin scarab]

For me Medic should atleast have a better weapon. With a better weapon Players will use it more

[echo nova]

DX12 SUPPORT HOLY LET ME KISS THE DEVS

[finite berry]

Dude, that's not the issue with the medic

A (combat) medic is supposed to do medical work on the battlefield

[cosmic pilot]

Tickets doesn't change the circumstances that make medic useless

[finite berry]

They would

[cosmic pilot]

It's not a matter of incentive

Plus tickets would be a snowballing mechanic

[thin scarab]

Also punish Players harder if they choose to redeploy also a Option

[real parrot]

If tickets were added, the main objective of the game would switch to killing the enemy/denying tickets, therefore making medic more important.

[finite berry]

God forbid there are consequences when a player dies

[novel geyser]

Tickets aren't a snowballing mechanic

[analog apex]

a hard no 👎

[finite berry]

He's just trolling, don't mind him

[winter rover]

it's going to face a lot of backlash, many of the players that play this like casual

[novel geyser]

It's a sort of tie breaker

[thin scarab]

We already have a Game Like That Its called BF

[novel geyser]

Battlefield mentioned

[finite berry]

Perhaps it's time to remind them that this isn't Battlefield

[potent storm]

In the small MG bunker on the Omaha map, I can't move at all while using the bipod.

[thin scarab]

Its the last thing we need in HLL and Thats tickets

[winter rover]

Make the game more realistic or punishing, half the playerbase will quit

[dusty bolt]

Good morning chat

[finite berry]

Why

[real parrot]

In battlefield, the tickets bleed is way stronger when capturing flags, and killing is a secondary option, Squad would be a better example.

[analog apex]

why we talk just global tickets all the time, add** local tickets**, depletion of which won't end the game - tickets stored in the spawnpoints or tied to the sector line

[finite berry]

https://tenor.com/view/metal-gear-rising-metal-gear-rising-revengeance-senator-armstrong-revengeance-i-made-it-the-fuck-up-gif-25029602

[finite berry]

For example, yes

But tickets in some way are the only way to make the medic a useful class in its intended role

[cosmic pilot]

You stole my idea sorta

[thin scarab]

If it isnt global then its something to explore.. and something I didnt think off..

[analog apex]

I was talkign about the local tickes for quite a logn time, so I doubt it

[real parrot]

The main reason Hll has a bigger player base than it's homologous, like SQ44 and such, is its accessibility

[winter rover]

You don't realise how many play this for a casual time? It's the only reason why this game is so popular and S44 isn't

[cosmic pilot]

Better than lives would be localized ammo

[covert elbow]

In the roadmap livestream. They said that they don’t plan on adding Danzig as a full map and are instead going to be seeing what parts of the map design work and are testing out the gamemode that would have released with the map

[winter rover]

whatever I believe you, I don't care enough to check

[finite berry]

Tickets wouldn't change anything about it.

[analog apex]

I suggested both in the past - for the spawnpoints (or tied to the sector line) to have 2 new attributes - one for spending local tickets upon respawning, and the 2nd one for spawning rearming.

[real parrot]

Only thing I know about Danzig is that it's the headquarters card of the German faction on Kards

[winter rover]

This game makes me cringe every time I play it

Knowing that Enlisted is more realistic than this

[real parrot]

Maybe, maybe not, it would depend on how they are added

[real parrot]

Enlisted is literal bs

[thin scarab]

Hahahaha

[covert elbow]

Inb4 kedos speech

[finite berry]

I do realise this. I'm just saying that this shouldn't stop us from pushing the game back into the direction of what it originally was intended to be. And yes, HLL is more popular than Squad 44; this has a plethora of reasons, ticktes ain't one of them.

[covert elbow]

Console and tik tok is why it’s popular

[winter rover]

At least they know the T-34's commander is also the gunner, and not seperate like in HLL

[finite berry]

One of the reasons, yes.

[cosmic pilot]

What do you mean tied to the sector line

[winter rover]

And that the T-70 only has a 1 man turret

[real parrot]

Every tank has the same crew layout in hll, even the same zoom optics

[covert elbow]

It’s just ease of access. S:44 you have to actually think about the game. HLL is just run at the point. Just look at any “big” YouTuber video

[wintry thistle]

So true

[finite berry]

Local tickets still would be a great thing because all of a sudden, respawns were a finite resource that could get drained. And that's where medics all of a sudden would become EXTREMELY important. It would make them an important class in one second without a single change to revive speed required.

[winter rover]

Even in Enlisted you have a stamina system and your aim becomes shaky after depleting it. In HLL? Basically has BF's stamina system - there isn't one

[finite berry]

Seeing a video about HLL being titled "this is the most realistic WW2 shooter" on YouTube always makes me feel a type of anger I didn't even know I had xD

[silk igloo]

i'd rather have the entire enemy team run into my bullets than attempt anything else

[analog apex]

separate ticketpool (and ammopool) for the active redzone and a separate ones for the bluezone - depleting by spawning/rearmSpawning on the spawnpoints in one or the other zone

[winter rover]

And your aim is pinpoint accurate and steady even after running a bloody marathon

[real parrot]

Yes, to summarize, hll is not realistic, as we always said

[thin scarab]

I am not a Fan of Having global Tickets. And if Tickets Are 0 you lose.

I Like how HLL does it with. Cap all points and you have 1.30hour time to do it

[finite berry]

"B-B-But canteen bad!1!1!1!!"

[covert elbow]

It always makes me laugh haha

[analog apex]

and when spawn tickets would deplete in the active red/blue zone, all that spawnpoints there could get autokilled or disabled temporarily for instance

[winter rover]

as we alway said
no many people believe this is the most realistic ww2 game out there

[finite berry]

If tickets are 0, you lose. Yes. I love it. Imagine having to be resourceful about your assets instead of just burning men and vehicles in one of the dumbest meat grinds imaginable.

[covert elbow]

HLL having the markets of being a realistic shooter was masterful marketing on BM’s part. I wouldn’t even count this game as hardcore

[finite berry]

Like I already said multiple times, as long as there is no "punishment" for just giving up, medic will be useless. Giving it "a better weapon" would be historically accurate and diminish the role it's intended for even further.

[real parrot]

Those people never played the game

[finite berry]

https://tenor.com/view/dog-doggo-smiling-cute-pet-gif-17869715

[thin scarab]

Then its getting to complicated for the „ normal Players“ and because of that the playerbase goes down.

People Like HLL because its somewhat simple to learn.

[analog apex]

and medics would be a match-changer if that (local tickets) was a thing

[covert elbow]

And tbh, that’s a bad thing

[finite berry]

For the normal player barely anything would change. He only would have to consider that wasting too many respawns could lead to his team's defeat.

Dude, even Battlefield V's "Grand Operation" or Battlefield 1's "Operations" understand this concept and work with tickets (for one side only, tho).

[silk igloo]

Meatgrinding is a player issue and s44 isn't much different. You lose because others threw their life away. I haven't played it too much, but every time I did, the issues were the exact same as in HLL. Infantry plays "clever" and spawns behind the enemy, or everyone uses 1 spawn, and tanks are always left in the dust

[finite berry]

Exactly. It's kind of sad how extremely dumb the average player of this game either seems to be or is expected to be.

[covert elbow]

This game tried to have its cake and eat it to with its “realism”. I’d like to get the game to where I actually have to think and coordinate with other players

[thin scarab]

You think. But it also shows HLL is popular and I think the people who want to make HLL extreme Hardcore is a Smal group