mess-hall

[grizzled kiln]

Or buff the tanks

[covert elbow]

Rocket launchers need to be limited per team, like 3 per side

Like they have the BF class system in a game where it absolutely does not work

I’ve still only seen it once. It’s the epitome of BM’s balancing though

[worthy charm]

You know I want a tank buff, but thats a bit harsh😅

[covert elbow]

“Hey guys AT for the soviets suck. Can we get an update to how tanks work please?”

“Nah here’s a bazooka for a stupidly high level loadout 98% of players will never get have fun”

[covert elbow]

It’s really not

Of course if the launchers are limited they should be buffed though

Man now I gotta rant about rocket launchers

I hate this game

[grizzled kiln]

Panzerschreck does not need a buff lol. So op already

[covert elbow]

Mainly the bazooka yea

PIAT needs a fix on its actual function. It’s a spring powered weapon not a rocket launcher

[covert elbow]

Still funny to me how the bazooka sucks because BM never bothered to revert its damage after removing a rocket

[worthy charm]

I never understood the thought process of taking away a rocket of the bazooka but then not buffing it...

[grizzled kiln]

Yeah made no sense

[worthy charm]

Its should be hard to overlook, the bazooka is a core piece of at

[covert elbow]

So from what I’ve gathered

[worthy charm]

Stay positive

[grizzled kiln]

It has potential to be a great game. But not sure these devs can pull if off. Especially at the pace they're doing things 😄

Devs / dev, maybe..

[covert elbow]

Their was outcry thay they bazooka had more ammo then the panzershrek. So to balance it out BM decided to nerf the bazookas damage to compensate. However people still complained it was to powerful so BM took away a rocket bringing it down to 2, despite how the US rocket bag carry’s 3.

But then BM just seemingly forgot or actively chose to keep its damage as the nerfed version, and what’s that we have today

[covert elbow]

Saddest thing about HLL. A ton of potential for a great game but it was squandered most immediately

[covert elbow]

Am I going to get banned if I don’t?

[worthy charm]

Yes Of course not

[covert elbow]

Dark tim

[worthy charm]

I still take bribes Its not that bad

not with a positive attitude.

[novel geyser]

Begging for AT and engineer squads to be separated

[worthy charm]

#1098158460463480842

[covert elbow]

AT should just be a “floating class”. Every squad can have it but it has limited slots per team

[worthy charm]

🥲

[covert elbow]

Same with Medic imo

[novel geyser]

And even if not more subfactions
Map specific loadouts to get rid of the launchers from north Africa and eastern front

[novel geyser]

You think I don't use suggestions or something

[worthy charm]

I tried to joke but was to stupid to use discord properly...

[covert elbow]

God there’s just so many obvious solutions and I hate how we’ll never get them

[worthy charm]

I know you do.

[covert elbow]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-lost-mind-share-this-cat-gif-10624429942940364630

[novel geyser]

I know for a fact they'd bring in an objectively good change that would make the game 10x better and there would be a loud minority of purists crying over the changes

[covert elbow]

Saw it with speed increase

Don’t get me wrong. It was way to much

But we absolutely needed a speed increase and what we got in then end was great

But yea. Feels like the “replacements” of HLL seem to not want the game to change

Suprises me more when “veterans” are so adamant for nothing to change

Then I see most of them play comp and I just sigh in disappointment

[grizzled kiln]

Speed increase was nuts. Inf running faster than a heavy. As if it isn't difficult enough to outrun inf already 😄

[covert elbow]

All the more reasons for tanks getting their IRL speeds imo

[novel geyser]

I'm not too bothered with the slow movement speed really I'm used to it. But that's just because the spawn meta makes the slow movement not as bad. If spawns change movement might need to aswell

[finite berry]

cries in Panther reverse gear

[novel geyser]

Even if it's a short burst of speed which slows down to the current run after a short time with a sort of stamina bar

[covert elbow]

Been saying that for a while

Would love to have a sprint function that does take stamina

Then if you want to recharge it you have to walk or stay still but can jog normally. You just won’t recharge stamina

[novel geyser]

If they do more ptes it would be interesting for them to really experiment with small changes and see how well they work
But that's more work for potentially nothing

[novel geyser]

I'd say jogging makes it recharge a bit slower but standing still makes it faster

[covert elbow]

Speaking of, did Tobruk change much from PTE to live?

[novel geyser]

Looks better visually. Idk any more than that really

[grizzled kiln]

isn't that how it works in S44 and Squad ?

[novel geyser]

Pretty much

[grizzled kiln]

cant even remember. if you don't drink from the cantine tho 😄

[covert elbow]

I had it be,

Jogging: No stamina recharge

Walking: 50% Stamina recharge rate

Standing: 100% recharge rate

[grizzled kiln]

that could work

[novel geyser]

Problem is there's no walk toggle on pc

[grizzled kiln]

but only with faster tanks, or it'll be even more of a buff to at 😄

[covert elbow]

Skill issue ngl

[novel geyser]

It's standjng still, jog or sprint

[covert elbow]

Also seriously? Then how do you walk?

Really???

[novel geyser]

You don't

Aiming slows you down but there's no button to make you walk

[covert elbow]

That’s not okay

[grizzled kiln]

You want a real walk button like cs ?

Yeah there's no walk. But it'll get close if you ads

[novel geyser]

Would be nice tbh
Idk if walking makes you any quieter on console

[covert elbow]

Don’t believe so

[silk igloo]

could've sworn there was a walk toggle

[grizzled kiln]

there isn't

[novel geyser]

Nope

There is in like every other hardcore shooter on PC lol

Idk about squad

[grizzled kiln]

can't remember

[covert elbow]

Par for the course for HLL then

[grizzled kiln]

https://tenor.com/view/i-don't-know-idk-idk-about-that-gif-7336250873949261946

[covert elbow]

At this point I feel like BM asked an AI to make a game and then “finished” it

[novel geyser]

Hardcore "milsim" with a total of like 2 things that make it "hardcore"

[covert elbow]

Only explanation I can think of at this point

[covert elbow]

Gunplay isn’t one of them either lmao

[grizzled kiln]

I guess the low ttk makes it a bit hardcore compared to BF and the like

[novel geyser]

They very clearly had a vision, you can tell by the mechanics that are in the game they wanted to do more but just gave up

Probably realised how much work it is that they were incapable of doing and or what they had made is a long way from what they want

[novel geyser]

That's like basically about it

The only other thing is player built spawns i guess

[grizzled kiln]

yeah

[novel geyser]

People see one shot kills and think "wow so realistic milsim"

[covert elbow]

I guess. It makes me even madder that instead of throwing in the towel or taking their time to fix stuff they continued to throw fuel on the fire and lead people

[finite berry]

Yesn't. Walking does not drain stamina, you also recharge stamina while doing that. But sprinting in every stance and crawling does drain stamina, so does excessive suppression. Plus, the canteen got nerfed (sadly), automatic replenishment is now much faster and canteen fills got reduced from seven to one.

[novel geyser]

Day of defeat is more milsim than hll

[finite berry]

Dunno for Squad, tho

[covert elbow]

I need to play through brothers in arms

[worthy charm]

https://tenor.com/view/cummins-gif-12535975135255283466

[finite berry]

?

[worthy charm]

Bu why?

[finite berry]

The canteen nerf?

[worthy charm]

It was a working system...

Isnt it now just Hll but you can take a sip if you want

[novel geyser]

The biggest complaint I've heard about squad 44 in here atleast is the canteen

[finite berry]

Nah, the stamina system still exists and works. You are just not as dependant anymore on the canteen

[covert elbow]

I’ve only played a little S:44 and the canteen was fine tbh

[finite berry]

Yeah, I didn't like that change either. Having only one sip of canteen water pretty much equals having none. I was okay with nerfing the canteen (although there was no necessity imo), but having one sip only makes it kinda pointless.

[novel geyser]

Doesn't seem like a bad change really I never had an issue with the old canteen but now it just kinda gives you a temporary buff I suppose

[worthy charm]

Honestly with this change they could have just taken it out of the game. Whats even the point now?

[finite berry]

finally I can turn the tables >:) Admittedly, I feel like all the HLL players that complain oh so much about the canteen have no idea what they are talking about

[worthy charm]

Now I gotta try this...

[finite berry]

It's not as bad as they claim it to be; it's not realistic, yes, but it's a nice way to simulate exhaustion and stress on the battlefield

[finite berry]

Exactly my opinion

[worthy charm]

@finite berry it your fault I dont study for my exams now

[finite berry]

Yep; the canteen boost now also lasts a bit longer, but eh, I'd rather have three sips instead of one

[novel geyser]

Kinda reminds me of a certain hll mechanic, where you like get resources through some form of node thing

[finite berry]

man :(

[covert elbow]

It’s an immersive mechanic. It gives a gameplay benefit but it’s something to help you immersive yourself in the game

[grizzled kiln]

Biggest problem with S44 is the lack of players. 400 24 hr peak. HLL at 8k 24 hr peak

[covert elbow]

I stg everyone wants to optimize the fun out of games nowadays

[novel geyser]

It muuust be competitively viable grrrr

[worthy charm]

Btw it peek discord culture that this became the S44 discussion channel again.😆

[finite berry]

And why is that? Because the game is poorly optimised and plagued by bugs. Are the devs working on fixing those? Yes, they are, but it will take a loooong way because they only have two programmers working on the spaghetti code that the previous developer (Periscope Games) left behind

[novel geyser]

Also hll just looks better

[covert elbow]

I wish to burn down the comp groups headquarters house in minecraf

[finite berry]

But on the other hand, if only half the amount of people that said "man Squad 44 is so good, I'd love to play it if it just had more players" would actually PLAY it, there wouldn't be a player base issue

[grizzled kiln]

In some ways yes, others no. Tank models in S44 looks better IMO

[novel geyser]

Still think hll's shiny graphics is what keeps it above squad 44 aside from the optimisation and stuff

[covert elbow]

Shame it’s just not as accessible. If it ran better on older hardware or was on console it could get a bigger playerbase

[finite berry]

I agree; it's aspect of what is missing in HLL imo compared to S44: player character management

[grizzled kiln]

S44 have some serious LOD issues as well. So goes HLL

[finite berry]

Fully agree there, yep; for a game from 2018, it requires insanely good hardware, especially CPU and RAM

[grizzled kiln]

Might look good at first glance , then things start looking like melted legos 😄

[finite berry]

People often go "why does S44 run so poorly, I have a 4080 >:(" and they don't realise it's their weak CPU and RAM

[covert elbow]

200m LOD on console is atrocious

[finite berry]

GPU funnily enough barely matters for that game

[novel geyser]

The floor in s44 keeps being higher up than it should be for me when I play it
So I can prone and see through the map or people could be hiding there and I just won't see them

[finite berry]

Definitely does, yep

Which is also funny because explosions look insanely good in Squad 44 while they just look sad in comparison in HLL

[grizzled kiln]

Even on good hardare it runs like poo, but so does HLL.

[novel geyser]

People see the game is pretty and trick themselves into thinking it's some amazingly immersive milsim

[covert elbow]

S:44 has much better BFX but worse visuals

[grizzled kiln]

Sound in S44 is next level good. So it has the edge there

[finite berry]

True, but unfortunately people tend to rather notice nice graphics than good sound atmosphere

[covert elbow]

Apart from visuals S:44 just has the edge

[finite berry]

But in comparison, HLL runs much, much better

[novel geyser]

S44 better sounds better gore, better gameplay nuance and gunplay
Just looks not as nice as hll

[grizzled kiln]

Not really

[finite berry]

But right now the game is plagued by a bug that loading a map takes up to 40 minutes which leads to the server automatically closing connection

It's super random, many players have it, many players don't. But that basically cut the already small population in half

[covert elbow]

wtf

[grizzled kiln]

damn

That's a way to keep new players away lol

[finite berry]

Devs are working their as ses off to fix the issues, but, game development-moment, for each bug you squash, two new arise

[novel geyser]

Sketty code moment

[finite berry]

yep

[finite berry]

"Better gameplay" comes down to personal preference, I guess

That's also why I absolutely hate "which is better HLL or S44"

[covert elbow]

Not really in this case

[finite berry]

Like, both are good in their own way

[covert elbow]

HLL’s is cookie cutter and basic to a fault

It’s the epitome of point and click shooting

[finite berry]

Yes, I know, HLL is flawed, but it can still be fun

It can be enjoyable

If it wasn't, it wouldn't have so many players

[covert elbow]

Absolutely

But just because it can be fun doesn’t mean it can be good

Like

[finite berry]

I crave a more tactical, punishing, historically accurate and realistic gameplay, so Squad 44 is my way to go. Many other players want something more immersive and hardcore than Battlefield, but still want to enjoy some action, so HLL is their way to go.

[worthy charm]

hll

[finite berry]

Well, there still would be Enlisted, but we don't talk about the snail here

[covert elbow]

HLL can be fun. But most everytime I see people having fun in videos and the like it’s because their with friends

[finite berry]

Naturally, I get what you mean

[worthy charm]

Btw there is no german server...😑

[covert elbow]

Solo experience for HLL is awful

[finite berry]

Not now, naturally. Prime time for EU is in the evening, 17:00 to 23:00, +/-. Small playerbase, y'know :D But it does exist, believe me

Just yesterday we had multiple very nice matches at 70 -100 players

[grizzled kiln]

HLL in pubs are frustrating unless you play with clan mates or friends

[grizzled kiln]

I miss the days with a full armor mode server in S44

Those are fun. But then it died out.

[novel geyser]

I find it very hard to enjoy hll unless I'm playing with a friend

[worthy charm]

My experience in 10m:"I killed seamen" -> one guy making slurp sounds

[novel geyser]

Anything is fun with friends and teamwork
As soon as those are gone from hll unless you're brainlessly camping for kills you're going to have a horrible time
And if you are only going for kills you're not engaging with the actual game

[finite berry]

They still exist, but are basically organised clan events only

[silk igloo]

i've been playing solo for 4 years 🫠

[novel geyser]

I'm very sorry

I struggle to finish matches these days unless playing with a friend

[covert elbow]

I’ve basically given up solo play unless I want to play commander

[finite berry]

This is one we held one year ago ^^ was the driver of an Easy Eigh, Firefly and M4A3 Sherman; was great fun
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nTqwF59-xGY

[covert elbow]

And then I play commander and I want to slam my head into the wall

I’m never going to forget my last match

[empty steppe]

I love when people get mad at you for not having enough garrisons, when I’m actively getting shot whilst trying to park and place a garrison, with no help from the squad leads 😀

Then I drop supplies on the point, and guess what? Nobody knows how to put up a garrison 😭

That last Kursk game killed me 😭

[vagrant shale]

Hi can someone recommend best guide or yt explaining how to like analyze the map and improve at the game

[finite berry]

In #new-recruit-barracks a few guides are pinned, perhaps those can help

[worthy charm]

Here is a small starter tutorial #telegrams message
There are a lot of them on YT. Its just my personal oppinion but the ones from SoulSniper and monoespacial were good for me.

[vagrant shale]

Dang thanks guys

[worthy charm]

And what elise says, feel free to ask questions

[zinc arrow]

yes had the same issue yesterday took ages to load

same issue with squad 44 but there i couldnt even play the game xD

[finite berry]

That's what I referred to

[smoky trench]

Hey guys, just wanted to ask you about how do you feel about the flamethrower support subclass. I love the weapon, but at the same time can't help but think I'm screwing up by not carrying ammo boxes (2nd subclass), so how do you feel about it? As cool as I find the flamethrower, I still think an SMG (2nd subclass) is gonna be overall "better" or more versatile, and you get the ammo boxes on top of that, so any "justification" to pick the flamer subclass besides fun/memes?

[past vortex]

support should ideally not be played continuously by one guy
should be available when needed
flamer fits well with that, you dont want to be a flamer all game

its a situational weapon after all

[slate canopy]

I think it's a good subclass, but I generally play the ammo/support load out at level 3... but if I feel hey, switch to flamethrower for a push, then switch back, and it'll help? why not!

[silk igloo]

if you're funding garris you've earned the right to have some fun over all the automatic riflemen

[smoky trench]

I'm always surprised when I read comments about support being a swap-class just for dropping supplies, always thought their kit is among the best/most useful, with the plus of being able to see spotted enemies by recon planes (beside unit leaders), so don't understand why you say that 🥲

[past vortex]

because the supplies are an unique ability and should be available when needed
swapping is required for double drops too

and wdym, if supplies/ammo aint nedded rn then a rifleman is just as good

[smoky trench]

dunno, maybe I overestimate the ability to get recon planes info, and flex loadout in general, but I may be wrong and it's not worth it. Anyway, thanks for the feedback you all :3

[past vortex]

sounds like you dont have all loadouts unlocked yet

[smoky trench]

I got almost all infantry classes around lvl 7-8 xDDD

[worthy charm]

the 2nd loudout it better for obvious reason, BUT it doesnt get close to the same amount of drib😎

[past vortex]

then you almost always can play something better

[past vortex]

except for US :}

the greasegun curse is really evil

also ruins assaulter

[worthy charm]

yeah... thats kinda true

the Grease gun is the worst smg by far

[tired trench]

literally this 9 times out of 10 if ur playing a required class foe something just be active in the role IE dropping supplies or ready to switch if necessary if squad Lead asks that's the most important thing

[past vortex]

yea as long as everyone is flexible it will be fine

[slate canopy]

I love the greasegun 🤫

[smoky trench]

Yeh, that's what actually bothers me: I think that even if flamer subclass also had ammo boxes, it wouldn't be strictly better than the SMG subclass, so that's why I was asking about how to justify going flamer besides it feeling sexy (guess there's no other reason, and full stop haha)

[past vortex]

this woman
bully her

:D

[slate canopy]

No.

[thin lotus]

The worst gun is still better than the flamethrower in every situation

[past vortex]

:}

[worthy charm]

Honestly when I play support i play flamethower its just to much fun not to do it

[worthy charm]

Nah PolarBearr is the nicest mod by far, that makes her a bad target

[smoky trench]

Yeh, I also have that mindset, but still in terms of game balance, it kinda hurts... I'd feel much better when going flamer if at least I could drop some ammo haha

[worthy charm]

Ok, now I need to be careful not to slip when I stand up, all the slime could be dangerous...

[past vortex]

i never felt like playing flamer for long
its so situational

[smoky trench]

I only do it cause a flamer kill feels like x10 better than kills with any other weapon (on my book haha)

[worthy charm]

The ammo whilst being nice isnt needed as much as one would think. The explosive ammo boxes can be good, but are just as situational as the flamethrower.

[past vortex]

i love to switch around
for example MG and then something with a satchel

[smoky trench]

I don't know about if you play with premades, or organized teams, but in my HLL experience, doing experiments with swapping classes tends to end bad

someone's gonna take your previous/fav class, or stuff like that

I wouldn't have such an issue about swapping if people were a bit nicer in that sense haha

[past vortex]

thats ok, im fine with all classes except medic

i can always be a rifleman if it needs be

[worthy charm]

https://tenor.com/view/shocked-surprised-gasp-what-cat-shock-gif-635629308990545194

Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat no medic?

[smoky trench]

Yeh, I admit I'm not that "flexible", tend to have two or three classes I enjoy playing the most, and tend to fill those (and only those) roles 🥲

[past vortex]

i have it on lvl1 :}

[worthy charm]

I only play tank/support or if I can spotter/sniper (with those 2 I dont care that much)

Most of the time I get something I like... If not changing teams/server can help

[slate canopy]

Assault and rifleman are level 1 and 2 (I dont' remember which is which)

[past vortex]

assault is so good

[worthy charm]

yeah... my rifleman is lvl 1 as well

assault like lvl 3

[past vortex]

:O

[finite berry]

So is mine :)

[past vortex]

its one of the best roles

[smoky trench]

I don't enjoy assault cause I see it as the overtuned easy class 😂

[slate canopy]

I play Engineer, Support, Spotter, Squad Lead, Commander, Medic, and AT the most.

Usually Spotter, since I load almost immediately, so I give people chances to Snipe.

[worthy charm]

Lvl 9 assault takes the spot as best loadout in almost all nations

[smoky trench]

yup

[past vortex]

spotter is fun

[worthy charm]

The german lvl 9 assault is the best by far

the stg with smokes and a satchel is crazy good

[past vortex]

the grenadier loadouts are also awesome

[smoky trench]

Yeh, they feel like jack of trades, master of 'em all haha

[worthy charm]

They got 6 frags? Im not sure...

It was a crazy number that much I know

[past vortex]

yea + 3 smokes

use it to smoke for your squad and pepper them with frags

situational best thing you can do

[worthy charm]

That makes it great for attacking... None of the trenches shall be saved

[past vortex]

combine with a supporter with ammo box for even greater results :}

[worthy charm]

3 of those with ammo boxes in attack are just a mini bombing run xD

Not that it would be possible in the average pub game, but the thought amuses me.

[tired trench]

still think officer level X should get the STG too maybe people would actually play squad lead then

[past vortex]

if you combine 5 squads you could get 150 frags :}

[worthy charm]

Ohhh the suggestion would go crazy on this one😂

I like the idea tho, not that many got it that far

-# or at least I dont

[past vortex]

wdym not that many

[worthy charm]

Thats better than a bombing run😆

[tired trench]

I only bring it up because ive been level X squad lead for a hot min it was actually the first class i max leveled

[tired trench]

hit max level officer

[past vortex]

ik

[worthy charm]

that wasnt a real question

[past vortex]

its so easy to level

[worthy charm]

😅

Those who play it get it on lvl 10 fast... I try to stay away though, there is so much to do wrong as SL and the role is more important than any other role.

A good command isnt gonna change as much a a good SL

[past vortex]

that really depends

[worthy charm]

Or at least I as a filthy causual believe so

[tired trench]

it all comes down to squad lead and support even with no commander if ur coordinated enough u can make it happen

[past vortex]

there are so many combinations of SLs, comms, rest of team and the enemy

[slate canopy]

My favorite game as commander.... was when the squadleads did everything. I just provided them the items to do so (tanks, vehicles, drops). I got 0 kills

The comms were 🤌

[past vortex]

there are teams where the comm isnt even needed
i have seen comms lead a bad team to victory singlehandedly (against a bad team ofc)

etc etc

[elder jay]

Do you get a notification when you kill somebody? I can never tell if I do or not. 🤔

[past vortex]

no
except for headshots

score also only updates when they redeploy

[elder jay]

Oh I see! How are you supposed to know? 🤣

[past vortex]

thats the funny part

:}

[elder jay]

😭😭😭😭

[past vortex]

most of the times you see it

but sometimes you just cant be sure

[slate canopy]

you can usually tell when someone's down... but you'll love the ding sound 😉

[past vortex]

to sum it up, just do only headshots :D

[elder jay]

Hahahaha ok, easy! 😤

[elder jay]

I guess I haven’t done one yet cuz I haven’t heard a ding. 😭

[slate canopy]

You'll get one soon, I promise.

[worthy charm]

There are hitsounds

that makes it easy to know

[past vortex]

yea but you wont know if you only wounded them

[elder jay]

Ohhhh I’ll open my ears to them! 👀

I did manage to throw a random grenade and destroy an enemy outpost. 🤷🏻‍♂️

For whatever the hell that’s worth.

[slate canopy]

Outpost is a 20 second spawn, set up only by a squadlead for their squad.

sooo you just destroyed their quick spawn point for that squad. Nicely done 👍

[past vortex]

grenading ops is a good tactic sometimes

[elder jay]

What!? Yayyy I just chucked a grenade in a random direction. 🤣

[past vortex]

you might even get lucky and and they spawn in that very moment :}

its recommended to throw a grenade when running up to a garry

[empty steppe]

Just keep shooting 😉

Until they don’t get back up

[elder jay]

That’s my method right now. Spray and pray and Hail Mary throw grenades. 🤣

[empty steppe]

Hey that’s the same for real warfare too 😅

[covert elbow]

https://tenor.com/view/mirabeau-studios-hello-chat-gif-13721662710820809297

https://tenor.com/view/dr-manhattan-gif-18899941

Wha

[empty steppe]

Hehehe

[covert elbow]

I actually killed him

Holy crap

[empty steppe]

why can’t I post gifs in here 😭😭😭

[thorny acorn]

the power of gifs

:(

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1341424699673940019/1357279757271830588/hell-let-loose-hll-ezgif.com-video-to-gif-converter.gif

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[empty steppe]

Sir, you good?

[thorny acorn]

my gifs D:

[empty steppe]

🥲

[covert elbow]

https://tenor.com/view/pathetic-pathetique-pathetox-cat-gif-17249104

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1162788724569026662/1341094223536980048/ezgif-762d66b93d7a08.webp

[thorny acorn]

why did they take it away

[covert elbow]

I don’t think they did lmao

[thorny acorn]

is it bc i have zapped role

[covert elbow]

What role?

[thorny acorn]

damn you jericho

[covert elbow]

What is “zapped”?

[thorny acorn]

probably bc i got timed out for spamming 🫃 reacting a guy

[covert elbow]

Oh yea that would do it

I remember some guys doing that to me a while ago

Annoying af

[thorny acorn]

jericho hates me 😢

[covert elbow]

I mean fair

[elder jay]

Hahaha omg that’s crazy! 🤣

[covert elbow]

Jk jk

[thorny acorn]

i warned the guy, and he even dmd me saying its ok 😭

[covert elbow]

I mean did you show the mods that?

You could probably get an appeal

[thorny acorn]

nah

[covert elbow]

https://tenor.com/view/gigachad-chad-gif-20773266

[thorny acorn]

they know what they did and should fix their mistakes on their own

[worthy charm]

There are more mods than jericho.

[thorny acorn]

ik he did it

[worthy charm]

Younger, better looking and humbler

-# I mean abu xD

[cyan saddle]

cant be

couldn't be me

[empty steppe]

Hey no dissing on my boy Jericho

He’s a real one ☝️

[worthy charm]

xD

Let me troll, what should I do else if I cant ban people😓

https://tenor.com/view/i-have-nothing-maggie-mcpherson-neve-campbell-the-lincoln-lawyer-i-dont-have-anything-gif-11740559111615347686

[empty steppe]

You’ll be okay 🥺

there there

[real parrot]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/813465453942145067/1364712269107298334/speechmemified_tankfly.gif

[worthy charm]

You really like that one dont you?

[real parrot]

Yup

[past vortex]

well it is great

[worthy charm]

Why dont we have more of those then?🤔

[stone basalt]

https://tenor.com/view/persevering-face-mattdamon-savingprivateryan-gif-4715004

[midnight nacelle]

This is true! ✔️

[midnight nacelle]

This is false. ❌
No one is more humble than I. 👑

[worthy charm]

I cant argue against that.

[ornate pasture]

haha crazy lmao

[hexed radish]

So Bombing Runs destroy nodes now?

[cyan saddle]

They always have

[hexed radish]

oh, my bad

[past vortex]

the change was about precision strikes

[vestal spear]

https://tenor.com/view/drax-gotg2-humble-humility-gif-21539324

[wind shore]

https://tenor.com/view/drake-gif-1567502554834460145

[keen glen]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/972301578180636692/1193983046999867442/image_2023-07-13_155304219.gif

[vagrant shale]

This game kinda rules not gonna lie

[vivid temple]

Hello Everyone

[crude crest]

hI

[wind shore]

Hello Elbous

[lucid harbor]

Sup

[vagrant shale]

Anyone here play on the Xbox HLL servers

Like the 2 called Xbox HLL

[slate canopy]

You may have better luck in #console-general-chat ?

[vagrant shale]

Nah I was asking the folks here

[slate canopy]

Well we aren't all Xbox sooo

[vagrant shale]

Yeah but I was asking if there was some

[wooden zenith]

I have returned my son's to assassinate Hitler

[finite berry]

*sons

[slate canopy]

Let's keep religion out of here. Thanks.

[covert elbow]

Who are you?

[wooden zenith]

I am Jesus Christ from Babylon

[finite berry]

returns
fails to get acknowledged by anyone
leaves

[cyan saddle]

And I am Discord Moderator

I posess the power to warn people for spam and troll posting

[finite berry]

And I'm an Indominus :)

https://tenor.com/view/jurassic-world-indominus-rex-dinosaur-jurassic-park-gif-20632318

[cyan saddle]

Nice to meet you, an Indominus

[wooden zenith]

How am I spamming my son?

[finite berry]

I can't warn people, but at least I can turn invisible :)

[cyan saddle]

Honestly, very cool

[finite berry]

Well, I skip the warning, I directly go to the "removing" part >:)

man, external emojis when

[past vortex]

i can turn beer into urine

[finite berry]

I have so many perfect emojis for the respective moment, but can't use them

:(

[wooden zenith]

I guess I am a spam? That's crazy

[cyan saddle]

not my beer

[wooden zenith]

I can

[past vortex]

everyone gets his own crate

[worthy charm]

Life is hard but unfair

We should get more DasAltberg emojis

[midnight nacelle]

https://tenor.com/view/cowboy-hat-hat-10-gallon-hat-40-gallon-hat-cowboy-gif-16452522011518977114

[worthy charm]

https://tenor.com/view/thinking-pepe-think-pepe-the-frog-wojak-gif-13571840648507225174

[covert elbow]

https://tenor.com/view/mirabeau-studios-hello-chat-gif-13721662710820809297

[eager crypt]

I thought you were THE Indominus.

[finite berry]

Well, yes, but there were two :D

But if you look at it like that, yes, you're right :D

It's not the Raptor DNA, my beloved

[worthy charm]

https://tenor.com/view/blue-raptor-gif-25994901

[finite berry]

yes, featuring also her :D

It's funny because I dislike that movie so much xD

[vivid temple]

Liverpool are champions 💯

[thorny acorn]

LETS GOOO 🔥

[arctic rampart]

I like men

[slate canopy]

: O me too! ... but just my husband.

[arctic rampart]

Met some dude on a completely different discord that said he played HLL

Started yapping about how he's a experienced machine gunner

Turns out he's level 43 XDDDD

[slate canopy]

So young~

[arctic rampart]

Literally

Knocked the guys socks off when my officers level is more than half of his entire account level

Anything new lately btw? Haven't played in a hot minute

[wind shore]

https://tenor.com/view/drake-gif-1567502554834460145

Hi guys

[covert elbow]

Not that I know of

[slate canopy]

Just the newest update... they only had a small bug fix otherwise, but it's been like 3 weeks since that.

[arctic rampart]

Wrong neighbourhood. Most of the peeps here are boomers

Sheeesh

[wind shore]

Hey solid are you perhaps a snake

[arctic rampart]

That's sad 😦

[covert elbow]

Can’t wait for 3 months of silence before the next “big update”

Idk what’s even next on the table. Roadmaps didn’t really give a good timeline

[wind shore]

JESUS CHRIST?

[wooden zenith]

Ain't nothing getting through here

[slate canopy]

Yeah, that's not needed.

[arctic rampart]

How about the issues with Tobruk?

[wooden zenith]

Not my lands you must ask Allah

[arctic rampart]

Those not changed/fixed in any hotfixes?

[slate canopy]

Tobruk issues - as in? (Sorry, just looking for specifics)

[wooden zenith]

This guy

[arctic rampart]

Well the tac map being as accurate as CNN reporting news.
The sandstorm flickering.
The console issues with the map that were reported a bunch.
Lack of detail of it being a city that's lived in, but more of a textured greymap

Oh and all the rocks with their crappy colissions

[slate canopy]

I haven't played it in a little bit - so I'm not sure? (I can't say anything on console since I'm PC)

The last time I played on Tobruk, I didn't notice anything obviously wrong with it.

[covert elbow]

City definitely needed a lot more outside textures. They added a lot of equipment and sandbags which was really neat but the buildings needed a run over of scorch marks, sanding, bullet holes, etc

I only played a couple of matches but I immediately noticed it. Also the fact that the despite being in a sandstorm and having the audio none of the tents actually moved in the wind

Was really weird and messed with my head

[wooden zenith]

Stubbed my toe said God damn! Then pops gave me a smack upside my head

[covert elbow]

Report him for child police

[wooden zenith]

Cause I'm funnier than you? Shame my son

[covert elbow]

I’m not your son and you ain’t my daddy

So stop calling me that

Please and thank you

[wooden zenith]

My son you are misguided I am merely your lord and Savior, I will march across a thousand galaxies for you and your health

[thorny acorn]

ok

[wooden zenith]

Even you

[slate canopy]

Again, lets keep religion out of here

[past vortex]

you should also have said that to those guys at easter (he has risen)
but i agree

[thorny acorn]

well thats not harmful

[arctic rampart]

@covert elbowGot the job yet?

[past vortex]

you realise thats subjective :}

[covert elbow]

Had my interview on Friday and now I’m just waiting to hear back from them. Should be hearing back within a week and if not they said to give them a call

[thorny acorn]

not really its ppl celebrating a holiday, if it was something hateful i would get u

[covert elbow]

My lord and savior is chips and dip

[past vortex]

i specifically gave an example where its not just a holiday, cmon

[real coyote]

Yo guys I’m new to the game

[covert elbow]

Welcome to Hell

[thorny acorn]

easter is not a holiday?

[real coyote]

What’s a good class to start out as

[past vortex]

read again

[arctic rampart]

How'd the interview itself go? What'd they ask you?

[covert elbow]

Rifleman, assault, or automatic rifleman

[arctic rampart]

rifleman, support, machine gunner, assault, automatic rifleman

Essentially any class in the game that's not a leader position

[covert elbow]

Not much to do but kill enemies and follow orders

[slate canopy]

Welcome in, you can find some guides on how to play in #1273828697941606450 🙂

[arctic rampart]

no access?

[thorny acorn]

whats wrong wiht he has risen, sorry i dont get the context i wasnt there

[arctic rampart]

What kind of magical channel is that

[past vortex]

its not for everyone

[past vortex]

lol

[covert elbow]

Pretty good. They just asked the normal questions about how good of a worker you are and how you’ll be with coworkers. They seemed to like me so I hope I can get this job

[arctic rampart]

I thought by "guides", she meant #1273828697941606450

[slate canopy]

Oops, yes, it selected the wrong one. The other is archieved lol

[covert elbow]

Uh oh she accidentally leaked the mod furry RP group chat

[real coyote]

Do people use Mics in game a lot or no

[slate canopy]

Ew no.

[arctic rampart]

Depends on time and place

[past vortex]

yes

[covert elbow]

Just poking fun haha

That’s like the oldest joke in online forum history

[slate canopy]

Just because I love polar bears doesn't mean I'm a furry 🥺 Protect my bears!

[thorny acorn]

thats a real thing, i have vencord i can see it

[covert elbow]

The wha

[covert elbow]

Depends on the time of day and what server your in

[thorny acorn]

i believe im not allowed to say more about vencord

[arctic rampart]

Is there also a developer Pacific discussions channel?

[slate canopy]

As for mic use, you'll have more luck in community servers - but no guarantee. I encourage you to use your mic so others will be more likely to use theirs 😉

[covert elbow]

There usually one squad a sever using microphones though

[thorny acorn]

nope

[covert elbow]

Real

Darn

[worthy charm]

I hope so

[real coyote]

Aye aye

[arctic rampart]

Eyo, but for real, what's taking T17 so long to get any updates out?

[worthy charm]

Everytime someone suggest pacific they delete all their progress

[arctic rampart]

The completely community, for free, 0 profit arma modded server receives more updates then this game

[covert elbow]

Incompetence in leadership, no motivation, and lack of knowledge most likely

That QA and roadmap told me all I needed to know really

[arctic rampart]

God damn it, don't give the answer so quickly, even if I already know it.
I wanted a little doomer discussion again 🥺 👉 👈

[past vortex]

most likely they simple dont allocate much time/manpower

the got other games too

[finite berry]

Let Loose

:>

[arctic rampart]

But all the devs that make anything are just contractors anyway

[covert elbow]

I don’t want to have that conversation again… can we brainstorm how to rework the game this time?

[worthy charm]

https://tenor.com/view/i-see-really-now-i-know-nod-1k-gif-11865986451428314791

[covert elbow]

I was waiting for this thank you haha

[cosmic pilot]

Had that yesterday.
It's old.

[covert elbow]

I mean I think the uniforms are commissioned so I wouldn’t be suprised

[arctic rampart]

What topic isn't old as time by now in regards to the game?

[covert elbow]

https://tenor.com/view/confused-im-gif-18102400

[arctic rampart]

THE ROOKIE?

Just started watching it. Got to season 2, enjoying it ngl

[covert elbow]

https://tenor.com/view/arrest-me-rookie-arest-me-the-rookie-arest-me-arrest-me-but-make-it-sexy-arrest-sexy-gif-2301605496645937159

[thorny acorn]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-eating-gif-5435842851470430994

[covert elbow]

Top gif when you look up the rookie btw

[covert elbow]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1335766573679513611/1344106146046410862/twitter_1894481235675640112.gif

[arctic rampart]

https://tenor.com/bvHFD.gif

[thorny acorn]

nah its bc i have zapped role

[arctic rampart]

What is that? Some crap you get after mods warn you?

[thorny acorn]

yea

[arctic rampart]

omegalul

[covert elbow]

When will the mods unzap my boy

[worthy charm]

no fun for u

[thorny acorn]

it was bc i mpreg reacted one guy

[covert elbow]

Let the pigeon fly

[arctic rampart]

It's 2025 and we still can't post images in mess hall LOOOOOOOL

[slate canopy]

Sorry, wings got clipped.

[covert elbow]

Funny how I’m on my last warning and I still have gifs lmao

[covert elbow]

Still tramuatized from what… 2021?

[arctic rampart]

Remember, one S cannot follow another S

[arctic rampart]

Yess sir

[covert elbow]

When did everyone poop react BM and send clown photos?

[arctic rampart]

That was a loooong time ago

[past vortex]

zapped role prob also takes away recations and that was the point?

[covert elbow]

Yea

[thorny acorn]

nope

get mpreged

[past vortex]

wrong guess

[covert elbow]

Honestly they were lucky they did when they released THE TRAILER

[arctic rampart]

Warned on Hell Let Loose server
Reason
Using emotes to spell out "SS" is not appropriate.

kekw

[covert elbow]

Would have been more of a ****show then it already was

[thorny acorn]

Warned on Hell Let Loose server
Reason
Abuse of Reaction Privileges.

[covert elbow]

I mean that’s valid

[arctic rampart]

Your reactions are offensive to me

[thorny acorn]

like im abusing reaction priveledges with mpreg emojies

[arctic rampart]

please stahp

[covert elbow]

Altough I do find it funny how the mods have given up on people circumventing the auto mod for curse words lmao

[arctic rampart]

Cursing's pretty bad in this gore-filled 18+ game filled with mainly 30-40+ chad dads

[worthy charm]

I smite them if they trick it

[arctic rampart]

Average 82AD tank squad isn't even coming on discord if each of 'em don't have 3 beers lined up

[covert elbow]

Oh the humanity

[past vortex]

thats normal, who goews on discord before breakfast

[covert elbow]

[cosmic pilot]

Skill issue tbh

[slate canopy]

⚡ ZEUS DOESN'T LIKE THIS

[covert elbow]

I would say “smite me cowards” but I am on my last warning

[arctic rampart]

Most chatting this channel has seen all day

[covert elbow]

Freaking Russians reporting me for nothing

[cosmic pilot]

Imagine the abbreviation for stainless steel being inappropriate

[covert elbow]

No that’s SNS

[arctic rampart]

And we need to shut it down xd

[covert elbow]

Real

[cosmic pilot]

What's the n stand for

[covert elbow]

“Pacific bomb inbound”

[arctic rampart]

StaiNless Steel obvvviously

[covert elbow]

https://tenor.com/view/explosion-mushroom-cloud-atomic-bomb-bomb-boom-gif-4464831

[arctic rampart]

ecks ddee

[finite berry]

Ninja and Solid on their way to have the same conversation how the game is broken and T17 is inept for the 365th time this year:

[arctic rampart]

Couldn't find the damn letters

[finite berry]

https://tenor.com/view/wide-vladimir-putin-russian-walking-gif-17506944

[arctic rampart]

How'd you guess it?

[finite berry]

dunno :D

[arctic rampart]

Nah', I haven't been on since April 14th apparently. And even that was for like 2 games

[cosmic pilot]

Real

[arctic rampart]

I rather just mess around with y'all instead of talk about the game. What's the point, nothing's gonna change anyway

https://tenor.com/0Cy3.gif

Does anyone know how to speed up a torrent?

[rich atlas]

does anyone else despise ppl who lock recon squads and then never get a friend or someone they know in there or just someone at all. Just saw some dude as spotter solo in a recon squad taking up space while hes not accepting requests from anyone to join

[arctic rampart]

Unless his friend is late, he's just an absolute moron

[cosmic pilot]

Tilt your screen to gravity assist the download bar

[rich atlas]

well he was there for a good 15 minutes

[arctic rampart]

Yeah, then he's just a bozo

If it's a community server, just do a report or idk cuss at him or smth

[rich atlas]

Like its ok to lock ur squad if u want friends to have prio in joining but just taking up a recon squad cause you want to solo spotter is very stupid.

[arctic rampart]

Indeed it is

[rich atlas]

public server sadly cause every other one has like 20 vip slots that then prevent anyone from joining or are full or have like 300 ping

[arctic rampart]

Console life ig.
On pc don't have such issues. Just jump in a decent server, can call admins when necassary.

[thin lotus]

😬

[arctic rampart]

And damn, if you're good, you even get free vip so next time you come, you get in instantly

[rich atlas]

I have the play anywhere version but my laptop decides to load for a year and then i lose connection so i cant play on PC sadly

[arctic rampart]

Sell laptop, sell console buy geymer pc

[covert elbow]

I’m gonna squeeze your head like a watermelon

[arctic rampart]

If it's with your thighs, I accept

[rich atlas]

laptop would sell for like 50 bucks its had soda dropped on it and is outdated

[arctic rampart]

50 bucks + 1 month of work = pc

[covert elbow]

I haven’t played regularly in like a year and a half. And in that time I’ve probably actually played like 8 times lmao

[rich atlas]

true true

[covert elbow]

Later

[rich atlas]

ill be doing something in the summer though so will def try and get a pc

[arctic rampart]

I hear weebs got big thighs 🥰

[rich atlas]

anyway ive still had a amazing time on HLL met some great talkative squads and hilarious british ppl

[arctic rampart]

Yeah, just don't buy garbage, do some summer work if you're younger or just put cash aside if you're working already

[covert elbow]

I mean I get it. A low level noob sniper can give away your position more often then not by spawning on your outpost and not moving or giving away your position while in the backline

[rich atlas]

yeah will do summer work def and my parenst said if im able to find a job where i can work entire weeks for a month i would have more than enough to build myself a pc

[slate canopy]

I'm sure you'll do fine

[covert elbow]

You’ll just have to wait and see

[arctic rampart]

Oh then for sure. That's how I got my first pc ever as well.

[rich atlas]

Yeah but as spotter you can always let them have a go and ur also kind of going against how the game is meant to be played by claiming an entire recon squad

[arctic rampart]

Is thigh RP permitted in here?

[rich atlas]

yeah they said i could get around 1-2K depending on where i work and how much and over here as good as nothing goes to the state so

[slate canopy]

https://tenor.com/view/glaring-glare-disgusted-disgusted-face-chibi-gif-5132909007677443740

[arctic rampart]

Average american salary... Bi-weekly make the same as I make monthly, but y'all barely survivin'

[rich atlas]

im from belgium so not american idk how it works there

[covert elbow]

I mean in reality the only useful role in the recon squad is the spotter with how the game works.

If it wasn’t such an important role I’d agree. But spotter just takes way higher priority and I’d much rather a solo spotter doing their job rather then a true sniper spotter team

[arctic rampart]

Ah my bad then, thought you're american

[covert elbow]

No that’s for DM’s, not here

[arctic rampart]

The more thighs, the better

[covert elbow]

Also mod abuse she’s sending images and not gifs

[vivid temple]

Goeienavond

[slate canopy]

It was in the gifs 🤷‍♀️

[rich atlas]

Yeah true the sniper is very useless without a spotter cause they cant mark stuff and they cant place outposts or garrisons so yeah. but imo u shouldnt be taking up an entire recon squad. you can still just ignore that spotter or kick them if they are just being useless

[rich atlas]

goeieavond!

[covert elbow]

https://tenor.com/view/frodo-keep-your-secrets-alright-then-lotr-gif-12907121

[slate canopy]

NOW i'll abuse it 😉 lol

[vivid temple]

Hoe performed de game op console eigenlijk

[arctic rampart]

WHO TF CLOSED MY SUGGESTIONB https://discord.com/channels/316459644476456962/1328839725976391781

[covert elbow]

I mean I’ll always let a sniper in if they have a microphone and if they don’t I just kick them when I die

BECAUSE I CANT DO IT WHEN ALIVE BM YOU *****

[slate canopy]

Most likely autoclosed?

[arctic rampart]

IT'S NOT EVEN IMPLOMENTED

Since when is that a thing

[slate canopy]

It happens to the clan posts, if no one posts in a while.

[covert elbow]

Omg based apothecary diaries watcher?

[slate canopy]

I love it ❤️

[arctic rampart]

Nah' posts don't get auto-closed

My mini-profiles post is wayyyy older and still open

[covert elbow]

It was Willie’s. Get the hammers solid

[arctic rampart]

Some mfer manually closed the suggestion

[rich atlas]

On series S it runs and looks good but u have some freezes/crashes sometimes. And the view distance aint great

[covert elbow]

How dare they close an actual good suggestion and not pacific post #1393

[arctic rampart]

Will I really need to re-post it?

[slate canopy]

🤷‍♀️ Dunno who then. If really needed, we can unlock.

[rich atlas]

yeah having a mic for recon is also understandable

[covert elbow]

But seriously, mods. Please put a stop to the consistent pacific posts. Just get an FAQ up at this point because it’s just ridiculous

[worthy charm]

Those are important

[arctic rampart]

Ofc it's needed. Still DPRK in here, can't post images in Discord in 2025 with how many bots and boat load of mods

[slate canopy]

I can pass that on

[worthy charm]

very important

[past vortex]

i really dont see the point of the image restriction

[covert elbow]

Thank you. There’s some other stuff that could also go on the FAQ and could be a nice project for the devs and Ben to work out so we can get some more info on stuff. The devs said they look at suggestions (which isn’t true) but it would be nice to actual get some dev responses on some of these

[past vortex]

(not that it bothers me much)

[thorny acorn]

i really dont see the point of me not being able to send gifs

[arctic rampart]

Not just the pacific, but also:

• Tank reworks
• Vehicle physics
• Artillery or anything to do with it essentially
• Medics being dogwater
• More factions which noone needs
• Suggestions from anyone that is under level 125

[covert elbow]

And speaking of, where is Ben?

[past vortex]

i think hes already burnt out

[thorny acorn]

well its sunday

[covert elbow]

Been near 2 weeks since he chatted

[past vortex]

yea

[covert elbow]

Probably lmao

[arctic rampart]

PTSD from making the roadmap maybe

[past vortex]

probaly hair fell out, depression.alcohol

something like that

[thorny acorn]

his ai model broke

[covert elbow]

Same as the devs. In for a couple of months, loose all motivation after seeing the unsalvageable mess of HLL, quit, bring on a new employee, repeat

[covert elbow]

What a joke that was

[arctic rampart]

Cyberpunk's almost downloaded. Anyone know if it's any good?

Or got any tldr reviews?

[covert elbow]

I’ve heard the main story is really good but the “open world” is a bit of a joke

Outside of story missions it all boils down to kill this guy for side missions

[slate canopy]

I enjoyed it. (I have technically not finished it, since i'm on final battle, wanted to finish everything else)

I don't know about the DLC

[arctic rampart]

Idk, I'm downloading some V2.2 with all dlc's included. No idea if that's the newest or not

[slate canopy]

It does warn you of like "No point of return" final battle in case you wanted to do anything else.

so I worked on like the side stuff

[worthy charm]

The game was massivly overhyped but its a solid 8/10 still after the fixes

[slate canopy]

Who you gonna romance? 👀 (Also I see they have a collab with Wuthering Waves next year)

[midnight nacelle]

Better than launch.
Open world is bland.
Story and Side Quests hold the fun.
Combat is mixed.
Fun cyberpunk vibe.

[arctic rampart]

@thorny acorn You already know it ⛵

[worthy charm]

Would say the Oblivioun rework is better by a lot

[covert elbow]

Wait cypher punks collabing with WW?

Is it the game or the anime

[thorny acorn]

arghh

[slate canopy]

Edgerunners. 2026 tho

[thorny acorn]

arcane 3

[arctic rampart]

I went on this topic with some friends recently that I can't get into SP games.
Lots of normies play like small cozy indie games for thousands of hours, but I try 'em, they're high quality, but I drop 'em after the first night or like 2-4 hours of gametime.

[covert elbow]

Makes sense

[arctic rampart]

Like I still love to death some OG SP games like GTA:SA and HL, but I couldn't get into stuff like RDR2, Skyrim and many smaller indie games like Stardew etc.

[covert elbow]

I’m trying to sit down and play more but it’s definitely hard for me as well. Main solution has been playing through games with my friends

Been super fun since we’ve been playing horror games together every week where we all go to one persons house and watch someone play through the game in one sitting

[arctic rampart]

I got through like 80% of Stalker 2, but haven't touched it in a few weeks now

[covert elbow]

Maybe you should try streaming

[arctic rampart]

Just felt quite repetative

[covert elbow]

Having an audience might help

[arctic rampart]

0 viewers for life

[thorny acorn]

id tune into solids stream

[midnight nacelle]

A lot of it comes down to letting yourself enjoy the content with tapered expectations and I find this much easier in solo or co-op titles.

[arctic rampart]

Why?

Idk, it just feels like I pick up a game, crack the cycle quickly and then it gets boring

[thorny acorn]

idk i would

[arctic rampart]

I remember saw this indie game about potion making, seemed quite high quality

Played it a bit, but then it's just the same thing over and over and over

[thorny acorn]

potion craft?

[arctic rampart]

I hate when puzzles are placed just for the sake of having puzzles of screwing around

[arctic rampart]

Yes

[covert elbow]

Oh god damn it my dog just pissed in my room

[arctic rampart]

Thanks for sharing

[thorny acorn]

lol

[midnight nacelle]

Breaks offline also allow a good breather and a chance for a desirable backlog to accumulate.

I genuinely was hyped to play House Flipper 2 when I got home from my vacation. 😂

[covert elbow]

I mean your playing for the story, not gameplay

Unless it’s gameplay first game

Then your playing for the gameplay

Like Sekiro. God that game was good

[arctic rampart]

I mean, idk, I don't want to go to essay level of discussion, but in Half Life all the puzzles made sense why they are there

Two things that really I love about HLL is the very high level ceiling. Like the literal number going up showcasing time, skill, knowledge etc.
And the dynamic games. You learn the ropes of a match, but still each one of 'em is a bit different due to the human aspect of it

Ready or Not is well made, but shooting the bots gets so old, so quickly. You play like the first 3 maps and you understand how they work instantly

[thorny acorn]

ready or not is great, shame my friends dont wanna play it

[worthy charm]

https://tenor.com/view/dym-tsk-tsk-tom-and-jerry-dissapointed-gif-21647617

Even though thats me but with tarkov

[thorny acorn]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-eating-gif-5435842851470430994

[arctic rampart]

https://tenor.com/cxJV7gWfhja.gif

Get goodman'd

[thorny acorn]

its admin role abuse

not embed faliure

[arctic rampart]

Tarkov doggo tho

Streamer game

[worthy charm]

Doggo?

[arctic rampart]

dog shi

[worthy charm]

Maybe I play again when they add RPGs and claymores

[arctic rampart]

Tank main fr

Progression cycle is 6 months, but the end-game gets reached in 2 weeks. fun.exe

[worthy charm]

I stand by that! I mostly play vehicles in all the games I got, even when they are bad.

[arctic rampart]

Did you play with Magriders in Planetside 2?

[worthy charm]

xD getting deletet on a night map by some guy with a night vision sniper in a bush

Peek gameplay

[worthy charm]

Never really played planetside 2, none of my friends wanted and I dont want to join a clan.

[arctic rampart]

• Progression's bad
• AI's always broken
• Bugs galore
• Audio's terrible
• Lightings terrible to the point where everyone abuses graphics card settings
• Counter-Strike level amount of hackers

[spring crow]

What up chat

[worthy charm]

I just come for a week or two and then never return, because im made to play lol

[arctic rampart]

Game's really good, but does squeeze out the best when playing in a clan

[worthy charm]

Uff

[arctic rampart]

That's for Tarkov

[spring crow]

I’m over here singing and playing the guitar

[covert elbow]

Sounds fun

[arctic rampart]

I remember when I joined a clan called the Freelancer Union in PS2.
They organize a big event each month with all their players and a few other clans.

We had 12 big ships, carrying 12 soldiers each.

Was so epic dropping onto caps with 120+ people

It was quite the sight

[spring crow]

Shoot I’ll show ya my singing ain’t the best but I gotchu

[arctic rampart]

Okay, okay, so I found a vid to showcase my experience in PS2, but it's a very old video in 360p, but it'll get the idea across.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tknz6Qc2Wbg

You can see those big ships. Each one holds 12 people and you can see, there's a BOAT LOAD

[thorny acorn]

i played PS2 once, got spawncamped deleted it and never touched it since

[arctic rampart]

Yeah, it's way past its prime

Quite an old game

[worthy charm]

That stuff is so cool, I tried once to fly but i was waaay to bad.

Its sadly far past its prime, for the same reason I never played EVE

Usually I like Spacegames...

Played ED and SC, enen though one was more fun than the other

[rich atlas]

any1 else think there should be like a option for servers where you need to have a enabled mic to join and play in a server?

[slate canopy]

I think it's tough to enforce that... but you'll ahve better luck on community servers versus official servers.

[worthy charm]

-# and is cheaper

[pine ember]

Guys I am almost lvl200 and I just resetted everything with intention

No more assault lvl9 or fancy uniform

[arctic rampart]

Okay, cool

[arctic rampart]

We've had that suggestion and many like it since the dawn of time

[covert elbow]

https://tenor.com/view/why-huh-but-why-gif-13199396

[rich atlas]

the crashes on XBOX are so nice

[pine ember]

Lvl9 assault is too op imo, and I realized I dont need those loadouts to have a fun and successful game

Despite that I dont even have time to play that much anymore

[covert elbow]

Then just play the lower level loadouts lmao

I mean all on you if you want to reset but like… not for me

[grand parrot]

To all of the SOuth African HLL community, there is a SA server up and running

[finite berry]

Still wrong channel lol

[worthy charm]

Server seeding please in #console-seeding-help and if you want to make a post to advertise your community look into #division-rules .

[wind shore]

How

[slate canopy]

I appreciate your concern about cheats/hackers in Hell Let loose@small fossil but don't share links. We don't encourage or allow talks of specific cheats.

[small fossil]

Sorry, was just surpised how easy it was to find!

[slate canopy]

"Any post, comment or discussion on how to cheat, exploit, hack or pirate Hell Let Loose is not permitted."

[small fossil]

Do you know if this is being addressed at T17 ?

[slate canopy]

You can talk of hacks in general (Ie is it common?)

You're free to report hackers to Team17, and if you're playing on community servers, you can report them to the server (sometimes in game with !admin, like !admin FrankTheWit cheating, or just join their server and report it)

(FrankTheWit is a made up name)

[small fossil]

I feel like every second game on pub servers has a least one person playing dirty in it

[slate canopy]

Are you playing on official?

[small fossil]

How to report hackers from the game directly ? didn't see an option, and I can't find the players in my recent steam players

[cyan saddle]

I don't know about official servers but from experience I can assure you that there's hardly any cheaters on community servers, and ones that do are quick to be banned

[small fossil]

@cyan saddle , would love if that was true, but there was one who I player against a few days ago, and he was still going strong tonight

[slate canopy]

Like I said, if you're on a community server (examples: The Circle, Glow's Battlegrounds, The Outpost etc), you can sometimes do !admin in the chat to notify admins of the troublesome players, or go on their discord server and report it.

[small fossil]

And another level 51 player with 1150 combat score, seems sus ^^

[cyan saddle]

Nothing sus about that tbh

[small fossil]

Yeah I know I can do that on community servers, but there is no option on public servers is there ?

[cyan saddle]

As a server admin we get several cheating accusations a day. 95% of accusations we receive are blatantly false 🤷‍♂️

[cyan saddle]

Official servers are a bit of a wasteland unfortunately

[small fossil]

Sure, many are false, but when out of 15 deaths I get killed 12 times by the same guy something is off

[small fossil]

Yeah, that's why I was wondering if T17 was aware and doing anything about it

[cyan saddle]

Can't really say whether you're wrong or right with the information given but all I'm saying is that I wouldn't assume cheats straight away.

[small fossil]

You probably don't spend a lot of time in pub servers, but if you want to confirm what I'm saying, just hop in any of the EU ones. I'm sure you'll see what I mean within less than 10 games

[slate canopy]

You can only report them to Team17.
https://team17.helpshift.com/hc/en/5-hell-let-loose/faq/678-reporting-a-player-on-hell-let-loose/#steam,-epic-&-game-pass-reports

[cyan saddle]

From what I understand, sort of. You can't report players to them directly, but they do ban cheaters based on information provided to them by other sources (including but not limited to EAC and community server owners)

They are aware it's far from ideal. They too have recommended playing on community servers for that exact reason.

[small fossil]

Ok well I guess I'll just report the ones I can, and live with the rest 🙂

[cyan saddle]

The official servers are there simply as an alternative

[slate canopy]

As for the combat score, this is the closest I've gotten (It was a 0-5 loss - don't tank often, I'm usually more support sided)
I've seen higher.

Now, if it was a combat score in like the first 5 minutes of the game - now it's really sus.

[cyan saddle]

I've seen level 60s with 1500s combat score as AT

[small fossil]

Mine was in offensive, the first 3 points were capped within 20 minutes, and we held the last one for 30

[cyan saddle]

We also had a level 20 last month who kept being reported but it was just an experienced player leveling up his alt account

Who was 1000+ on rifleman

[slate canopy]

Looking through my screenshots, found this on the other team.

3-2 loss,with :21 left.

[small fossil]

You may be right, but I've had so many wierd thing happen to me recently that never happened before that I can't help but feel some hacking might be involved

I never had the feeling this was a thing before U17

[slate canopy]

Totally fair. I've only experienced 2 legit hackers. (who got banned within 10 minutes of us realizing it) I'm at about 927 hours.

[small fossil]

Yeah I'm reaching 1k hours, and feel like it got really bad only recently

[slate canopy]

That's why we say play on community 😉 They want it to be a fun experience for everyone, and the community's admins can respond quickly.

[small fossil]

I know it's better, just not always the best place to be when your friend are shy and don't want to talk in game 😉

Anyway, end of rant. Thank you for coming to my TED talk! See y'all on the front lines

[past vortex]

*cant be proven

[wind shore]

Can we report cheaters?

[cyan saddle]

"!admin i got killed by a blatant hacker!"
*starts spectating player*
*is prone in the middle of a wheat field, gets shot by the same dude on a roof 100m further up*
"!admin he just killed me again!"

[wind shore]

I’ve seen cheater only once

[cyan saddle]

You played on console though wasn't it?

Consoles generally have less of a cheating problem 😄

[past vortex]

*less of some kinds of cheats

[cyan saddle]

That makes it less of a problem

🙂

[past vortex]

kinda yea, because the other kinds can never be proven anyway :D

[wind shore]

Yes, but sometimes when I repeatedly die I say “cheater! headshot”

😅😂

Cheater was on PC once

On console I haven’t seen them at all

[wind shore]

I’m joking of course , no cheaters on console, on PC I’ve seen cheater

[night lark]

99% of cheater accusations is just skill issue copium on the part of the accuser tbh. If anyone is on the BunkerReports discord will know there really arent that many legit cheaters.

As abu has said already… when you go spectate accused players generally theyve just got a good position and the idiots on the other team are playing Call of Duty 😂

[covert elbow]

Don’t even really need to cheat in this game it’s so easy

[past vortex]

thats exactly what a cheater would say

[night lark]

If you want to “get good” make a one man locked squad, use a rifle and keep 100-150m away from the fight and learn how to shoot. 40-50 kills easy with a 4-2kd ratio

Turn that FOV to ~80 as well and youll see for miles.

[dry depot]

Played the best game ever. no one talked in command chat and we got steam rolled

[night lark]

Sounds like a normal pubgame. Doesnt happen as much on level limited servers or serious gameplay orientated servers.

I basically only play on level 50/75 servers just because more folks there do communicate and play the game

[covert elbow]

Tbh it’s always funny to me who think K/D is king in this game when it’s really not. All it takes is one good garrison or airhead and you win the game

[covert elbow]

AND THIS IS NOT A COMPLIMENT

[past vortex]

well its kinda everyones own decision what they consider good

i like to win the game and dont care about my own stats

[night lark]

So game winning wise sure i agree but you will win more often if youre actually good at shooting as well. The more gunfights you win and the more the opposition are looking at a spawn timer the easier it is to win

Only winning with sneaky garrison or airhead is very much a casual pub game thing. Actually being competent in gunplay and individual skill is very applicable in comp and clan games

[silk igloo]

all it takes is one guy to see that airhead and send 2 dozen people into the respawn screen, and then they lose their point

[past vortex]

but what if the airhead was a decoy and there is actually a good attac garry

[night lark]

Teams with higher KD ratios generally collerates with winning. Its just something you notice when you get to see the game statts

[night lark]

Dumb way to use an airhead tbh.

[covert elbow]

I would agree but I’ve had the “no one bothered to look behind them and we lost the game” airhead more then the “epic le kill streak airhead”

[night lark]

Thats a team skill issue

[past vortex]

:D

[covert elbow]

And even when it does get seen it’s a 50/50 on if anyone actually bothers to take care of it despite me begging my team to help me in all chat

[covert elbow]

Yep. And it’s sadly the most common thing in this game

It’s basically unplayable unless I’m with a group nowadays

[night lark]

Play on level limited servers mate. Youll suffer a lot less

Call me toxic but “new player freindly” servers just arent that fun to play if you know what youre doing

[covert elbow]

No it’s just the truth

But even on level locked servers it’s still bad

Plain and simple the game got polluted with to many free weekend and sales so not many know how to play. They keep playing the game like battlefield no matter the level

[silk igloo]

It's the same thing as trying to meatgrind into a point. People looking for the shortest route, then a few guys end up killing dozens of enemies that contribute nothing to their team. When one squad holds 2-3 enemy squads away, that leaves 1-2 of their squads to do something useful.

[covert elbow]

Yep. Why outposts should be reworked or removed

And I will die on this hill

Make them exclusive to recon or have them just be lesser garrisons and make them also require supplies

No that’s the better option

Make outposts cost 50 supplies and have a 30 life limit

[silk igloo]

Of course that one squad having a high K/D wont matter if the rest of the team drops the ball.

[night lark]

Almost as if its a team effort eh?

[real parrot]

K/D doesn't matters almost nothing in this game, what matters is terrain, positions and strategical actions, for example, even if all the team manages to get 5 KD by camping on defense, the moment an arty/bomber barrage followed by a powerful ground push is on, their KD won't mean nothing.

If anything, the players that most contribute to the game are not the one with the highest KD, but the ones with the most kills and structures destroyed, as they manage to gain critical positions.

Resuming, camping to get a higher K/D won't get your team to victory unless you really know what you're doing

[silk igloo]

that'd just result in even more blueberry waves. the game needs people to stick with their officer more, and squads stacking less on each other.

[night lark]

I dont agree but ive had this conversation a hundred times and without showing you the literal hundreds of post game statts ive read through i cant prove anything. All ill say is that teams with players that win firefights (get kills, stay alive, take positions and destroy the OP) will win most games.

[covert elbow]

Like I said the rework idea was much better then removal

[silk igloo]

I'd rather have squad-specific garris, or a bread-crumb line of OPs, so that people could only spawn in the path of the officer

[real parrot]

You just prove my point, as you said, the players that take positions and destroy OPs gets the job done, but they could die 80 times trying to do it or in the meatgrind, at last the thing that matters its not K/D, but kills, structures destroyed and positions

[night lark]

Nope. KD plays a big part. KD is an indicator you can win firefights. If you have a negative or low KD you are being carried by your squadmates because you are dying before you get to be useful

[real parrot]

K/D is an indicator of how good a player is as good as level

[night lark]

Someone with a high KD naturally will take more spawns and take more positions because theyre not looking at a spawn timer. Its basic game theory

[covert elbow]

The what?

[silk igloo]

Like if officers could plot even 10 OPs, and only the latest 2 were active, and when they're taken out the next one in the chain activates. Something like that.

[night lark]

Youre going to argue but i gaurentee you havent spent nights on end analysing game statts 😂

[real parrot]

While this is true, a player with 0.80 K/D that managed to destroy 12 OPs in the meatgrind while dying to arty and dropping 90+ kills and 80 times is far more valuable than a guy who just camps in a bush and has 2 K/D

[real parrot]

I've spent nights and days studing maps, strats, strategical points, exploits and tactical mechanics

But thats not the point

[night lark]

Player with a 0.8 kd isnt taking 12 OPs because hes dying before he gets there. Someone with a 2.0Kd just squad wiped and took an OP

Thats how it goes. High KD teams win more often than not

This is a fact.

[real parrot]

Then you really just didn't understood what you saw on those stats, because I just narrated a real case of my comp team, he ended with 120 kills, 80i kills, and more than 8 Ops destroyed on the meatgrind

[covert elbow]

That’s… interesting?

[night lark]

Meatgrind is meatgrind and comp is slightly different because youve also got KPM to concider

[night lark]

This isnt 12 ops and 0.8KD 😂

[real parrot]

Not exactly, but the point its the same

[night lark]

It doesnt because the “comp game” he has a positive KD

What comp btw? Seasonal or ECL?

And what actually is your comp experience here

[real parrot]

I think it was on the first of the Seasonals, still, the numbers are not exactly those, but the most of the players got around 0.8-1.5KD and still done a much better job than some guy with 3 K/D camping in a bush

[night lark]

So the aggregate KD of those people is still positve

youre still thinking KD as an individual statt. Please actually read this : the team with the higher KD will win

[real parrot]

It may be around 0.9 with the ones with lesser K/D, still, even if the enemy team would get more K/D, they would still lose. And there are many cases of ways this can happen.

[night lark]

I guarantee the losers had a lower KD.

[real parrot]

And I can point many cases were it was not like that

For example, one game in Omaha we ended up winning with a lower K/D because we outmanouvered the enemy team capitalising on a tank kill to destroy the OPs and take the middle point

[night lark]

Sure but it womt be the overall trend. Anyway dont take my word for it. You havent seen actual games statts over hundreds of games which is the confirmation of your tactics and abilities. So go read game statts

[real parrot]

That would be the equivalent of studying economy by reading average GDP

[silk igloo]

You're talking of different things

[night lark]

I know. Im waiting for him to realise it

[real parrot]

That's what a comparison is

[night lark]

GDP isnt an average either. Its an absaloute

[silk igloo]

Both of you I mean. You're both correct.

[real parrot]

I just launched a random economical term as you would deduce, I know nothing about economy

[night lark]

I know economical terms because i understand how statistics work and how to apply them

[real parrot]

So you understand how all statistics works know to apply them in every case?

[night lark]

I sure as tea know how HLL statts apply because they are the proof. Good statts correlate with game wins

Constantly looking at a spawn screen, either by dying or by losing OPs had the same net effect

So sure you can blow up every OP you see with a tank or you can infantry gunfights and have better gunplay statts like KDs

Tanks are a force multiplier. Their potential effect vs required effort ratio is different to that of an infsntry squad. I.e 3 crewmen work less hard to have a greater effect on the game than 6 infantry

Its 2am. As i said ive had this conversation about 100 times. Go pester your game admins for games statts (my friend can have them auto transfer to discord if youd like) or go pestor comp organisers for game statts and resd them

3/4s of the highest KDs will be on the winning team. 3/4s of the highest KPM (ex arty and tanks) will be on the winning team

3/4 of the highest combat effectiveness will be in the winning team

Youll find the highest deaths and DPM will be split evenly though which is kinda funny

[real parrot]

One thing I like about Hll is that it represents very well how a war is won, how tactical effort and physical skill affects the game. In essence, is much more deep than a simple statistic. Anyways, it seems that the problem here its that you're giving the credit to the wrong statistics.
Anyways, my translator died and know I'm writting whitout it

[night lark]

Dw man im not like trying to be toxic or having a go at you. 90% of what youve said i agree with. Just discrediting KD and KPM doesnt align with the statts but i cant prove it to you unless you go read post game statts

[covert elbow]

I feel like HLL shouldn’t be won K/D, but that’s usually what it boils down to

I know for a fact I prefer constantly moving frontline games over meat grind gamss

[night lark]

I need sleep else ill be having HLL nightmares

[covert elbow]

Ohhhhhohooooooohhhhhh spookokkyyyy oooohhhhhh noooo gaaarriiisoooonnnnsss oooooooo

[real parrot]

My point is that, while K/D plays a part, its an opaque stat, as It can be acquired by actions that doesn't affect the game outcome, the stats that more affects the game outcome are destroyed structures and pure kills, but the best way to study a game is actually seeing it, thing that is quite hard without a good caster

At some point, team K/D could represent the player K/D of a RTS game, and still, since the important part are the objectives, you could still get a pirrical victory

[night lark]

Individual KDs this is true. One or two players with 100kills wont win a game. You get 25 playerss with a 2+ KD while 25 players on the other team are 0.5kd and that posiitve team will win because those 25 players are winning gunfights

Thats my point

[past vortex]

unless they lay in the bushes and didnt effect the game much :}

[night lark]

25players arent doing that because thats literally more than half your infantry

[real parrot]

Thing is that even if the whole team gets a positive K/D, that still won't determine the victory, and a team with lesser KD but more ground control have more chances to wiun

So that's why I say structures are more important, as they are a more precise source of positions taken/lost

[night lark]

higher KD also correlates to more map control because theyre not dying as much and therefore there presence is maintained. You dont get high team KDs if all your players are in one spot shooting out

[real parrot]

Map control is stronger with the presence of Ops and garrys than individual infantry

[night lark]

Nope this is a fundemantal
Misunderstanding of map control

[slate canopy]

I think you should agree to disagree 🤝 This isn't going anywhere lol

[covert elbow]

You should just ban them both

Then make me admin

[real parrot]

For instance, just one guy has much less map control that an Op

[night lark]

Map control is a measure of you infantry holding an area. That is maintained by spawns but not given by spawns

An Op has no map control because it doesnt stop me walking over it

The guy with a rifle that kills me stops me

[real parrot]

It may not have direct map control, but its potential map control its way bigger, as it can spawn as many players

[night lark]

Youre so close to the point

“ as it can spawn players “yes and what do those players do my guy? They kill the enemy and stop them moving

[real parrot]

Yes, but the Op is more important than the guys it spawn, therefore destroying it is more precious than killing the players

[night lark]

an op in the middle of nowhere doesnt hold jack. Its just free xp

[night lark]

Spawns facilitate map control.

But heres the funny

If you have 0 deaths and loads of kills you dont need a spawn. Because you arent dying

[real parrot]

If you don't have a spawn and you die, is over, and no amount of skill will save you from an MG at 450 meters, an arty shell or a tank

Thats why maintaning a line of spawns generates a more powerfull map control than a line of skilled soldiers

Mass has power in its own, and if the enemy is to dispersed, you can defeat them in detail and still win with bigger losses

Thats in an actual war tactic not a hll strat btw