mess-hall

[arctic rampart]

250 ammo, 20 min cooldown FOR A LOG WALL LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

[analog apex]

yep... once a 20 minutes and for 250 ammo, yep... I will "definitelly" use that against the fortifications 😄

[arctic rampart]

"We play the game" moment right there

Q: What's your highest role and what is the level?
A: Medic, level 2

XDDDDD

[worthy charm]

Thats something Altberg has talked about as well in his roadmap video. The ps just sometimes doesnt hit because of the spread or hits a house instead, which is very bad for a ability this expensive and a huge cooldown.

[analog apex]

a good CMD should however take the obstacles into consideration

and choose a correct angle if any

[arctic rampart]

Tell it to the devs. They'll ask "You can change directions?"

[analog apex]

😄

[worthy charm]

Mate, im playing pub games, im happy if there is a commander and he gives me the tanks I want.🥲

[arctic rampart]

Play with me

[worthy charm]

A commander that spawns a Jumbo 75 should get into a corner for 15 minutes

[tropic pecan]

bruhh... To be honest that reaction could be possible ._.

[worthy charm]

Nah, that would be embarrassing for me, im really not that good at the game.😅

[arctic rampart]

You're a tank andy right?
I'll supply you with tanks and just be on the field and on comms. Completely fine with that

[analog apex]

the only 3 things we were able to take from the QA....

• bipod system will be remade the way so we will be able to deploy the bipod everywhere we would expect it to work
• **tanks **of a tier will no longer be just copypasted instances of the same tank tier just with a different asset used (no nore tiering therefore as I understood)
• admins will be able to modify much more stuff on their servers and customise them, despite modding per se won't be there

these 3 were probably closest to some kind of end-vision shared, but the rest of the answers/topics were "maybe, somehow, we'll see, unsure, we could"...

[worthy charm]

I would say Im one of the "tank andy" club yes.😆

[arctic rampart]

I watched like the last 20 minutes of the stream, around just when they started the twitch questions and then like the very beginning.
Feels like I didn't miss much

[worthy charm]

They got timestamps on YT: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hsF3cv_m6GA

[analog apex]

that's pretty nice, I guess that was Ben's nice work

[arctic rampart]

That's a Ben W moment right there

[tropic pecan]

not really, they even started off with answering questions that aren't even on the roadmap. eg. Pacific and Danzig and such

[arctic rampart]

Holy sheet that's infuriating.
I noticed a boat load of questions for the QnA as well the Tobruk QnA have nothing to do with the main topics

[analog apex]

But what rly got me.

The topic was the medic rework. When I asked if they are planning to make dying and ammo to matter, instead of what I would expect, they connected the ammo to the medic in a sense like... the revived player would get some more ammo on revival. I was blown away, like... wtf? I never meant it that way, it's illogical to begin with. How more ammo... from a medic's syringe? xD

Honestly I will have to rewatch that if I understood it correctly too.

[past vortex]

did they say anything about the ui?

the scoreboard etc

[worthy charm]

Danzig was nice, but im really exhausted when it comes to pacific. One day we maybe can leave this topic behind...🥲 That people ask for it again and again and AGAIN makes me furios....

[past vortex]

its a meme at this point :}

[tropic pecan]

I think I understood it this way too... ._. and it's really like WTF.

[analog apex]

if rly, it felt like they are so disconnected from the game or any resemblance of what realism/authenticity is
and ofc from the solution for the medic as well by that

[worthy charm]

It would be a gif... if we would be allowed to post them😑 (sry i just couldnt otherwise...)

[tropic pecan]

I had a game today where i could easily revive one teammate and he was just like "no don't revive me i need a new satchel"... -.-

And this just illustrates that the medic class in itself is not really problematic, it's the core and fundemantal mechanics around the game that are the issue. But i am starting to believe that they have no clue about that

[past vortex]

are you surprised?

[analog apex]

I would do the same if I was him

and it's bad

[past vortex]

thats one of the main points why medic is often worse than redeploy

but ofc he could jjust have redeployed :}

its always nice to wait for the medic and then redeploy

[analog apex]

like... they won't try to find solution to make the ammo boxes usable, they will be trying to give some ammo on revival (again if we understood it correctly)
terrible

or how to make a system with persistent ammo (only under some conditions and temporary in turns ofc)

they don't see how all of it is connected and that it is not just about changing something about the medic class's aspect - there are other connected systems at work here, which make the medic class useless

[tropic pecan]

I am not surprised at all, i am just disappointing that these kind of issues are so immanent and yet they have no clue

[past vortex]

i dont feel the medic class is a pressing issue

just ignore

the scoreboard and ui is an issue!

[analog apex]

honestly... the most obvious bugs are on it and they have been persisting too

one can't avoid those, devs can't if they are playing and they keep them in

UI bugs = easiest bugs (relatively in a game) as they can see directly if fixed or not

[past vortex]

they probably dont play :}

[arctic rampart]

I listened to the arty rework question and literally nothing was said

It was like, "Can you give us any details?" "No."

[tropic pecan]

thats the thing... ._.

[analog apex]

so what's the point of this QA? I wonder

it was about expanding on the roadmap's topics and arty rework was one of them

but nope, not even that

and this is what I was worried about... Ben could be the best CM in the world, but if the devs won't work reliably or cooperate in an expected manner, all the work goes in vain

if they decide to undergo a QA, then they should give as many details as possible... they can't claim they can't tell us something, after there was radio silence for such a looooong time

it just doesn't make any sense

[past vortex]

it was probably imposed on them

so they just get over it and avoid it as best they can

[analog apex]

well, they wouldn't come with a QA themselves, that's for sure. They were probably quite happy when we didn't have a dedicated CM... there was nobody who would bother them 😄

[arctic rampart]

Lol, just watched that part you said about medic giving a small replenishment of ammo

[analog apex]

so it wasn't a nightmareish answer I imagined by myself or misunderstood xD

so it's true

what did lead them to such a terrible idea I wonder

[arctic rampart]

Nah' it's just like he completely misunderstood what you said

[keen glen]

they havent fixed the resolution bug yett

[analog apex]

imagine... if they are working in their heads even with silly ideas like these... they could do whatever silly thing and consider it legitimate

[arctic rampart]

Ben said the question was the ability to possibly carry over ammo from one life to the next, so it's not always full. But he said there might a spot for the idea that medics give a small replenishment, because of the revive happening istead of a respawn?

It's like whaaa?

[analog apex]

right, Ben asked it wrong too and probably that lead the devs into thinking about it. But they didn't refuse it and worked with the idea along 😄

[past vortex]

the obvious "solution" (if they REALLY want to make medics relevant) is ofc to increase manpower cost

[analog apex]

the local ticket system

[past vortex]

crazy how they dont even consider that :}

[arctic rampart]

Yeah. There have been situations where you can actually feel the manpower draining as your 0 combat effectiveness team keeps dying 😄

[past vortex]

sqad44 has it i think

[covert elbow]

How big was the old BM dev team? 15 people?

[analog apex]

they are just unable to think in a way that the way to fix the medic is modifying other existing systems

seems totally out of area of their understanding... which is highly disturbing and worrysome

[covert elbow]

The funny thing to is that it wasn’t even them not being able to say anything because of NDA stuff. It was because they didn’t have a clue of what to do

[past vortex]

yea they are going for minor things to avoid work

[covert elbow]

Like why would you take 4 months to make a road map and then not have any idea of how to actually implement the roadmap

[past vortex]

or maybe it not laziness but fear of bad code :}

[analog apex]

another great question

and again.. doesn't make any sense

[covert elbow]

This dev team needs a better leader tbh

No wait… director sorry

Speaking of who is the game director for HLL?

Don’t think I’ve seen them

[analog apex]

we have no idea who is who and if they are here at all

and if they are... no idea about the names and positions

the devs here should have their own dev discord role like the Black Matter devs had

[covert elbow]

Would be nice

I’m also disappointed by the QA because it was dumbed down

Some of the more lengthy and thought out questions/ suggestions were reduced to one sentence questions that didn’t even get an answer

[mellow knoll]

not to forget a lot of good questions were just not selected

[covert elbow]

Much rather have the devs write out their response and respond that way

Like the live streams nice to get face to name but they didn’t do much

[covert elbow]

Yea

[mellow knoll]

again I point to the repeat on repeat on repeat "where pacific" question

[analog apex]

and the devs were saying that they read through all the mess-hall stuff too
so the devs, no I am talking towards you then - if you are reading this... for the love of God respond in some way at least sometimes!

[thin lotus]

lmao @ hll

[covert elbow]

Lmao yea

I’m hoping they answer the “where Italian” question in this QA. Gonna put my Multi-Faction suggestion on it to see if I can get an answer

[mellow knoll]

I wouldn't, the next QA is only about the new map

doubt they'll even look

[covert elbow]

They don’t. If they actually read our suggestions and conversations they would have had the answers to the questions given already

Medic and Arty especially

[analog apex]

that was my conclusion as well when they were claiming it

[tropic pecan]

agreed

[thin lotus]

really strange theyre doing another Q&A just focused on one map.
begs the question, "why?"
There's nothing else needed to be learned about it. It's just a map

[covert elbow]

No it fits. The map should absolutely have Italians and my multi-faction idea fixes it fairly well

[wind shore]

i love how artillery just, Gets to teamkill

[mellow knoll]

Oh ok, well I wish you luck

[wind shore]

i played arty once, killed the commander alone like 3 times (remember just watching his dot dissapear), and just chillin

[covert elbow]

Thank you. And I wish you luck in your questions

[mellow knoll]

I ain't bothering. They ignored my last ones so why bother

[covert elbow]

Hope we get a cosmetic focused QA for you

I just wish we could get a S:44 moment with a brand new dev team who wants to fix the game and solve all these issues we have right now

Where’s that community document listing all the issues and bugs?

[mellow knoll]

The next thing I want to make for suggestions anyway is Tank Cosmetics with a list of potential camos to add. Gonna be an annoying one to work on

[covert elbow]

Why???

[analog apex]

SQ44 and HLL devs feel to be on the opposite sides of the enthusiasm level immersion for their game

[covert elbow]

Don’t be afraid to use photos instead of models

[mellow knoll]

I have all the camos but it's just getting all the individual screenshots and putting them in a doc

[covert elbow]

Fits the games really

[covert elbow]

Ah

[wind shore]

because gun go boom idk what you mean

[mellow knoll]

Idk if I want to, a lot of war pictures are low quality

[thin lotus]

they're treating such minor things with such fanfare. And the rest they're either hush about it, or still parroting the "keep writing suggestions on all channels". It's truly weird.

In 2024 they say "2025 will be a big year for HLL". Then 4 months into 2025 and they're not giving any confidence they even know what they have slated for the rest of the year, or what they're capable of doing at all.

[covert elbow]

Why did you team kill

[wind shore]

shooting at a target half a kilomet away with a 10 second delay isnt very accurate

[wind shore]

teammates keep walking into the shells mostly

[cosmic pilot]

watch this space 👀

[covert elbow]

Yea you have to know where to look to get them high rez

[wind shore]

eg on a point, they advance and get boomed

[mellow knoll]

The Panther A in my profile banner is one of the ones I'm talking about

Panzer Lehr Panther 256

one of my personal faves

Man ngl the whole Panzer Lehr division is just the drippiest Wehrmacht division

[tropic pecan]

in this QA they said "2025 will be the year of trying out"... its just infuriating

[keen glen]

i like the luftwaffe paratrooper drip

[arctic rampart]

One other thing that crossed my mind watching the QnA stream is that they say a lot of the thing's they've tried out already starting from maps to mechanics...
So crazy idea, how about we use the ✨ Public Test Environment ✨ for some of these attempted ideas?
Ik it's pretty crazy to use the TEST environment for TESTing the new TESTable mechanics, but it might just work

[keen glen]

lol

[cosmic pilot]

next QA we have to test how deep their messhall lore is

[keen glen]

they are lying about new mechanics

[arctic rampart]

I mean if they give a serious answer to a "When pacific?" question, you already know the lore knowledge is as deep as a puddle

[tropic pecan]

Next QA throw in a question like "Do you guys genuinely read the discord suggestions and channels?!"
if they would even respond to that 🥲

[covert elbow]

It’s funny because I asked the same exact question Ben asked in the QA but I went much deeper in it so Ben obviously knew what we wanted to actually know regarding the dev viewing suggestion question

[covert elbow]

No lmao

Only way we’d get that answer is from us speaking directly to the devs

[arctic rampart]

Or if we all s-post the heck out of the QnA forum with that question

But everyone here would probably be too moral and 'shiver me timbers' to carry through

[covert elbow]

Don’t say that you’ll get warned and muted

They take things very seriously here

[cyan saddle]

Say what?

[arctic rampart]

Warned for sure

[covert elbow]

Dont’cha know?

[arctic rampart]

"hll office" kind of cracked me up tho

[arctic rampart]

BRO WHAT OFFICE, they all work remotely

[covert elbow]

They should hire me

[keen glen]

i didnt know that

[covert elbow]

I’m the savior of HLL

[cosmic pilot]

will you work for minimum wage

[covert elbow]

Well we don’t actually. It just seems that way because every QA the devs are at home

[tropic pecan]

then you can infiltrate the dev team and make the game actually good! Im in👍

[covert elbow]

Better then I income which I currently have

[cyan saddle]

iirc Expression is indeed remote

[arctic rampart]

Well, maybe they do have an office for legal purposes, but theoretically they claim to be "a fully remote game developer for console and PC"

[keen glen]

would u work for bigmac menu

[covert elbow]

We need to start a campaign. I need to start making poster boards and making speeches in the student commons!

[arctic rampart]

Nah' man. Just suck up to Benny boy and you'll get in

[keen glen]

benny boy lmao

[covert elbow]

Slip him a 10-nner

[arctic rampart]

Ben seems like the guy to roll up to a airsoft game in all Novritsch gear. if you know, you know

[tropic pecan]

i Know.. xD

[covert elbow]

I do not

[analog apex]

yo man... can you even express your own opinion now that you are a mod? I assume being one limits your freedom of speech eeh?

I remember you being more proactive in the discussions providing your PoV on a topic

[covert elbow]

Also it was funny in the bipod question when they went “oh we’ll have to see if we have the animations and models for the bipods. And we’ll need to see how it balances the game because their powerful guns”

[tropic pecan]

this just blows my mind...

[covert elbow]

Like what? You already have the animation and model for the FG42. Plus they would totally be balanced because it’s half the damage of an MG for the ability to ADS and use a bipod. Plus the guns only have 20 rounds

And they would still be underpowered!

I swear if that’s their answer to fire selection I’ll be pissed

“We gotta worry about game balance.” Suuuuure

[arctic rampart]

In the mean time... Reforger's getting a big update soon, with now - destructable buildings, mortar system which you can build anywhere, weapons, clothing, tree destruction (for like driving through forests 'n' shi'), 2 or 3 new vehicles with modeled interiors, helis with more rockets, armor vests having physically accurate hitboxes for protection, rpg's have back-blast now and some other things.

[covert elbow]

Yes I just wish it was WW2. Tbh I might pick up the game if I get the money but ARMA 4 will probably be out before then

[arctic rampart]

Nah', me and the boys don't play the cold war jungle crap

We play on a well-kept modded server community called Worst Case Scenario, essentially they've modded up the game to be for like a modern setting. So you got NVG's, Bradleys, a few attack choppers, little birds, modern guns etc.

But seeing some of the new features in this modded server will be crazy cool

[covert elbow]

That’s pretty cool

I just wish the devs actually cared man

[arctic rampart]

Did I mention you can lean your gun against almost any surface?

[covert elbow]

Awghhhhhhhh

Man why is HLL so bad lmao

[arctic rampart]

And then deploying the bipods a separate system

[covert elbow]

It’s not even an argument of gameplay philosophy it’s just a bad game lmao

[arctic rampart]

I thought it will be boring with the cold war and all, but damn. But I got it like 2 weeks ago and already sunk ~90 hours in it

[thin lotus]

Bren is unironically the best bipod MG given the fact that it doesnt have any tracer rounds.
Tracer rounds make every other MG a deathtrap for the user

[covert elbow]

People complain about the Bren but i don’t get it. That gun is super clean

It’s hard to aim in walking fire but you get set up with the bipod and oh boy

[thin lotus]

the obstructive model is the only downside

maybe the bouncy ADS too

[tropic pecan]

The black matter team was really passionate about it and really envisioned a historical accurate hardcore game

[covert elbow]

For like 6 months lmao

As soon as it reached the community it went out the window

[thin lotus]

BM CEO's inspiration was making a more cohesive CoD game
🤫
Nobody wants to know that tho

[covert elbow]

Lmao

Their original vision was pretty good. Definitely flawed but a good start. Shame they just stopped innovating after like a month

[analog apex]

great shame!

I loved the alpha and beta playtests

and the freedom of choice when it came to the objectives to go for

and like just 1 squad vs 1 squad fights around that could however be more than than, very randomly

a true feeling of being like the squad in Saving Pvt Ryan

[thin lotus]

nah, alpha was terrible

[cosmic pilot]

the only reason to not have a similar gamemode would be no one would play it

[analog apex]

had its bugs, but I mean the stuff that worked and how it worked as a whole... I liked it

[tropic pecan]

what do you mean * Walking simulator * xD

[thin lotus]

the stupid huge scale of the map contributed to how random it felt

[analog apex]

the randomness was the very thing I liked, one of them that is

[thin lotus]

just pockets of soldiers that could be at any location of the map

yet still haveing set objectives

[analog apex]

and why not

[thin lotus]

because that has no staying power with players

[analog apex]

that may be just your opinion, because it would definitelly had staying power with me and with likes of me

[thin lotus]

BM learned early on that despite the player freedom given, players still wanted and needed action

[covert elbow]

The maps absolutely way too big. It needs to be at least 100 Vs. 100 to justify it

[analog apex]

not rly

[thin lotus]

They consolidated objectives, and eventually even moreso with the introduction of strongpoints

then scaled the maps down, i forget which came first

Teleports-behind-you was even worse back in the early iterations of the game. More than it is now still

[analog apex]

anyway, it's pretty much irrelevant... none of it will come back ever, in HLL

waste of time discussing it

[covert elbow]

Yet it’s still to big haha

[covert elbow]

Yea…

[thin lotus]

HLLs foundational flaw remains in that it's infantry combat is too easy and too straightforward to allow or encourage anything other than mass spawn bombing -aided usually from the freedom in which players are also able to place spawns in territory not even belonging to them.

[analog apex]

and I am rly not in mood to argue over something that is like 7 years old despite I could if I wanted... so pointless anymore

[thin lotus]

HLL not following the basic fundamentals of FPS game design hurts every other aspect within the game

Frankly, it's an FPS game for people who are bad at FPS

[covert elbow]

Remove airheads and supply drops. Pretty easy fix to solve “the ease of placing garrisons”. And make it so you need at least one other squad member with you to place an OP

[covert elbow]

Which is why it’s so popular with comp groups lmao

[worthy charm]

What says that about us?😅
I never played Bf for the FPS part as well

[covert elbow]

Any game that can easily be exploited attracts them like flys on a carcus

[covert elbow]

BF is more hardcore then HLL but people don’t want to hear it

[worthy charm]

And they got working medics

[thin lotus]

the word "hardcore" throws people off.
BF is definitely a better FPS game

[worthy charm]

I shouldnt start to rant again

Its funny but kinda a waste of time.

[covert elbow]

Yea

But the devs definitely listen!!!!!

[thin lotus]

Keep posting suggestions!
Keep being engaged within the channels!

mmmmm
no.

[worthy charm]

Chum might be the only person i can understand saying this.

Imagine being on this discord server for 8 years.

[cosmic pilot]

yet, here you are

[covert elbow]

Kinda cringe ngl

[worthy charm]

I dont even have a discord account this long😆

[tropic pecan]

I know the feeling... 🫠

[covert elbow]

Do you think you got scammed with your kickstarter contribution Alex?

[worthy charm]

I can offer my condolences, nothing more though...
Ninjaoxz didnt want to be scammed so im all out of money.

[thin lotus]

your sandwich break is over

[tropic pecan]

The fun part is actually the friends with which i got the platoon vet kickstarter never asked me for money so i never spent something on the original kickstarter 😅

[covert elbow]

Lmao

[worthy charm]

UFF

[covert elbow]

Still feel ripped off though?

[thin lotus]

what's the going rate for KS helmet codes?

[tropic pecan]

yeah 🥲

[worthy charm]

Are there some left?

[covert elbow]

Speaking of they absolutely should sell the KS helmets as DLC and give the original KS’s something else as a reward

Locking basic use helmets behind the KS was stupid

[thin lotus]

keep it exclusive

[worthy charm]

Sometimes humanity makes me cry a little, how so many people can be mad to not can a helmet in a game is just impressive in a weird way.

[covert elbow]

It’s the fact that their basic helmets issued to every solider

1st ID helmet, tricolor M42, Chicken wire, etc

[thin lotus]

youre talking about the grassy one, and the skull?

[covert elbow]

I personally enjoy matching my uniform to the map and those helmets would be great for quite a few

[covert elbow]

No those can stay exclusive

[wind shore]

👋

Hello guys

[analog apex]

all keep exclusive

they were and still are our KS rewards

wouldn't make sense to unlock them

then why would be the point of having any KS rewards in general... for any game

[covert elbow]

Make a new KS helmet for all factions

[analog apex]

there is no more KS

[covert elbow]

Maybe even a unique standard uniform with a patch that has KS on it

[analog apex]

KS ended years ago

[covert elbow]

Point is that the KS uniforms and helmets should have actually been unique. Gatekeeping commonly issued gear is stupid. Not to mention it’s literally impossible to see on consoles

[analog apex]

(damn it's rly so long time already 😮 😄 )

[covert elbow]

Yea almost 5 years

[analog apex]

huh? more like 7 years

[proud moat]

When will they gonna release the new update?

[covert elbow]

Was it 7? Holy crap

[covert elbow]

April

Man 7 years and not much to show lmao

[analog apex]

what do you mean... we have a game. In what stat it is in, that's however another story. 😏

[river rover]

Took the words right off my fingertips.

[covert elbow]

We have an early access game going on 7 years lmao

[gentle lintel]

you have words on your fingertips?

[covert elbow]

And with how the devs are acting we’ll reach the 10 year mark before meaningful changes come

[river rover]

It's a game across all platforms to boot. That alone is rare.

[covert elbow]

In hindsight not really a good idea tbh

[river rover]

Never said it was.

[analog apex]

anyway, I am leaving, good night guys

[covert elbow]

From the “veterans” I’ve spoken to the game went downhill after it launched on consoles. And tbh it barely runs on console

[covert elbow]

Have a good one Sam

[river rover]

What's funny is this was my history with fps. HLL has outlasted most of those. I think I had like 10 years total in regular RO from Mod to Ostfront. I also moved onto the others for several years as well.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u_kFH6nQt80

[mighty nimbus]

What are the changes they are making to medical, anyone know?

[novel geyser]

We didn't get anything specific in the qna really

[river rover]

Didn't they say they'd be coming back again next week?

Time to get more questions in.

[slate canopy]

Yup,another Q&A, but I believe it's supposed to be more on Tobruk and whatever changes to expect in April.

[covert elbow]

They won’t be giving a better answer

It was very obvious they have no clue what their actually doing with the reworks

[covert elbow]

Definitely phoning in questions for the flamethrower and precision strike because if the changes in the PTE are the only things happening that’s very bad

[slate canopy]

They'll answer what they can. I'm sure it'll be a bit more indepth in specifics since it'll be about the map.

[unborn bough]

are there specific servers that actually have people that communicate

it's wild that there are so many players in a 100v100 game as officers yet refuse to open mic

or write in chat

[covert elbow]

Absolutely. But don’t go asking about Medic and Arty because the answer won’t be any different

[slate canopy]

You're hopping on community servers?

[unborn bough]

yes.

[covert elbow]

50vs50*

[slate canopy]

Which ones? (fi you remember)

[unborn bough]

it's by far the most miserable experience ever

i have no clue which ones

[covert elbow]

Communications highly depends on server and time of day. Try and find a server with a level limit. Those have more communication from what I can tell

[gentle lintel]

most miserable experience i've had is when mcdonalds chicken changed to white meat

[unborn bough]

look, i don't play too good myself, but atleast i give really solid feedback and try to lead my squad alongside other squad's

[unborn bough]

i am still just level 24-ish

[covert elbow]

Then you’ll just have to find a good server

Or you could pump your levels on an XP farm server

But that’s very frowned upon and you totally shouldn’t do that

Especially not on servers like Bob the builder

[unborn bough]

i shall definitely refrain from such activity as it'd be very rude of me to refuse to play with people who still need to figure out they have a voice

[echo karma]

Hey guys it's my bday. Ik. Is there any free promo stuff for t17? Might buy a dlc then

[covert elbow]

No?

[unborn bough]

like i give accurate callouts. atleast tell them from which direction they come from like

"the enemies dropped supply east of our defense objective, they might place a garisson there, check map for ping"

and minutes later i hear some officer go "they come from the left"

mm yes. left.

sorry i had to get it out of my system. it was really bad today

[covert elbow]

No you’re fine. This game can be very fusturating

[echo karma]

Suggest joining a milsim lite group or some form of lfg system. There's a plenty on pc.

They can hear you though

[brittle inlet]

tired of getting great stats on tank in one game then losing it all to a game freeze

[arctic rampart]

Swap to pc

[brittle inlet]

i have it on both console and pc, i just prefer console because its more accessible for me and i (personally) feel like the console scene is less competitive than the pc scene in terms of hll

but sure you’ll still get level 35 commanders on both platforms

[sinful canyon]

In the Q&A the devs talk a lot about great Maps that they have in “the vault” but don’t plan on releasing them anytime soon, when they’ve said they will in previous roadmaps. Why can’t they just work on those and release them this year or next? It would definitely bring a large influx of players

[gentle lintel]

90% of people here would argue over needing to change/rework current systems and bug fixes, etc. first over releasing new content.

Albeit it needs to be a balance between the two to be successful.

[novel geyser]

The original roadmap was completely scrapped and direction changed
They said they'll make use of the maps in some fashion most likely.

[covert elbow]

But existing content needs to be changed before more is added as to make sure the new content doesn’t have the existing problems currently seen

[worthy charm]

We are only a minority though.
No clue what people on reddit think...😅

Or are they also just complaining

[oak current]

Reddit? Complaining? cant be

[gentle lintel]

We don’t talk about Reddit

Scary place

[oak current]

[thin lotus]

so now the map makers are also bug fixers?

[slate canopy]

Reddit isn't too bad from what I've seen.

[thin lotus]

their map output is slow because their intention is dripfeed

[covert elbow]

It’s a mix but a majority of the community is the same as us

Fed up with years of broken content with no fixes happening

[finite berry]

I think they’re going to fix/innovate on the stuff that has been long requested this year, next year add maps, features, then probably one last major release (Berlin) before HLL2 is announced as the pacific theater. When? Idk. 2027,2028. It’s pretty clear at this point though that’s the plan from their answers about the pacific theater, at least.

Found this on Reddit, is stuff like this completely off the table or at least somewhat possible?

[covert elbow]

Oh my god

Yes. They said themselves the pacific requires an entirely new series of systems in the game

But why would they bother doing reworks if they aren’t going to finish this game up

[livid saffron]

what will be the new maps?

[slate canopy]

Tobruk will be next month. The new Eastern Front map has not been named, but we know it's 1943 time frame and it's Summer time.

And confirmed to be urban.

[dawn vault]

I played with these two guys in a match. I have their steam accounts but I can't friend them. Any of you guys know why??

[slate canopy]

Apparently there is a Steam requirement to spend (or have in your wallet) at least $5.00 to have access to add friends. They can add you, but you cannot add them.

[dawn vault]

What? So I gotta spend $5.00 just to add them?

[slate canopy]

It's Steam's requirement (which I never knew about!)
https://help.steampowered.com/en/faqs/view/71D3-35C2-AD96-AA3A

"In order to make it more difficult for these malicious users to spam, scam, and phish other users, we restrict access to certain community features until an account has spent at least $5.00 USD in Steam."

"Limited user accounts are prevented from accessing several features on Steam, including but not limited to:

-Adding friends (limited accounts can still create quick invite codes) "

[dawn vault]

But I've deffinetly spend more than 5 dollars on steam

[lucid shale]

they might not be accepting friend requests?

[slate canopy]

🤔 Could be what King said.

[dawn vault]

Dang

Hope I find them in-game again

[quiet hornet]

I'm trying to unlock weapons that are like level 2 for my character and Im already level 9 how do I get it cause I'm confused

[slate canopy]

Are you level 2 in that role?

[quiet hornet]

Yeah

[slate canopy]

Are you playing that role?

[quiet hornet]

Yes and it's locked even if I'm passed the required level

[slate canopy]

Can you just share a screenshot of it in #new-recruit-barracks ?

[quiet hornet]

Alr

[slate canopy]

(or I guess a picture, since you're console, my bad lol)

[covert elbow]

Your career level is 9. Your class level is 2. Their different requirements

The only things you’ll unlock with your career level is helmets. Uniforms and class loadouts will require you to level each individual class

[quiet hornet]

Done

I have another question

[slate canopy]

What's up

[quiet hornet]

So

I know the basics of a tank and all that but I don't know if it's me or I'm doing something wrong but when I turn a corner with a tank

It's like it stuck on something and it's slow af

Like it takes at least 5 minutes to turn half way as a driver

[slate canopy]

Gotta hit at the right speed and angle.

[quiet hornet]

I'm going full speed but as soon as I start turning my speed decreases

To 0

[slate canopy]

Yup, gotta hit the right angle.

[quiet hornet]

Trust me I hit every possible angle

[slate canopy]

https://youtu.be/7wWcn2zjhKs?t=351 This may help?

it's at the driver section

[quiet hornet]

I saw this an hour ago

No help

[slate canopy]

Then you may need to go to the practice range and drive around a little? Get a feel of the tank?

[quiet hornet]

I did

With the German tank

Us tank every tank and car

[wise comet]

Good evening.

[slate canopy]

Good evening

[quiet hornet]

Good evening

[slate canopy]

Then I guess practice makes perfect.

[quiet hornet]

🫵😠

[wise comet]

just downloaded the game first time playing lol.

[slate canopy]

all good, have fun and don't stress too much about dying

[wise comet]

Thanks ^_^

[plush summit]

Anyone else get this bug on console where you get stuck on “leave unit” menu even when the game finished I couldn’t see anything just leave unit

[quiet hornet]

BRO ME TOO@plush summit

I couldnt even leave or anything

The buttons didn't work and I had to close the game

[slate canopy]

Rough games tonight 😢 all losses on offensive/defensive.

I had great comms though, and some good laughs. 🙂

Including spawning at our OP... see the 76 tank infront of me and instantly die

[storm stratus]

First gear if your going to hold the turn. If your moving along, just tap tap tap turn. Speed will drop each one but you can keep moving.

[hybrid basin]

guys did the new update come out sorry i dont know

[storm stratus]

No

[cold radish]

when is tobruk going to be released btw?

[oak current]

April

[wind shore]

what's tobruk

[finite berry]

next map

[violet arch]

Hello

[novel geyser]

Pacific is next map

The map will just be called Pacific

Us vs Germany

[proper dock]

Map in libya

[violet arch]

I seen my squad get blown up as I'm a medic first time playing

10/10

I love the game because you don't even get kill cams or nothing

[novel geyser]

Low bar for console

[pseudo rock]

Afternoon all

[wooden swan]

when does new map release?

[oak current]

april

[novel geyser]

People really need to learn to just look for themselves before asking

[oak current]

april

sorry, force of habit

[novel geyser]

No Pacific isn't coming

[slate canopy]

Great broadcast yesterday. I learned you could get on a specific building 🤫 let's see if I ever apply this knowledge lol

[oak current]

did you see the recon-truck-double splash?

[slate canopy]

I did not. You got a clip? 👀

[oak current]

#hll-videos message

each teams recon tank hit the enemies transport truck at the same time

and wiped 4 playes on each side

perfectly mirrored

[slate canopy]

Wow!!!

[oak current]

Was good fun

theres a Debut Match of MS against Helios in 3,5 hours on Utah Beach coming up and then in 7 hours, theres another match of VLK (Czechia) vs PUSH (Spain) on Khark coming up

my voice is gonna get really tired today

[slate canopy]

Oh I am sure. Be sure to drink lots of liquids!

[oak current]

[crude hamlet]

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[slate canopy]

I didn't know anything was removed?

[oak current]

I think they removed it because there was some historical woopsie with it, so people gotten STENs instead?
I might be wrong on this, I just remember some discussion about it

[slate canopy]

I don't pay attention to specific guns 👉 👈 I just play lol If it sounds right, then I'm sure you're right.

[crude hamlet]

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[crude hamlet]

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[slate canopy]

In the Community Q&A with that road map, there are no immediate plans to bring Finnish to HLL but explore in future. I believe they mentioned something sort of power balance too?

[crude hamlet]

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[slate canopy]

All good, that's just the last thing that was updated.

[crude hamlet]

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[slate canopy]

I mean, I love the game. I usually solo-queue and play with whoever is in my squad. I would say the best is the community where we have fun together, even if it goes bad. Worst is... when it gets frustrating when you try everything and it's just not going your way, but then I gotta remind myself, it happens and we're just playing a game. Next map may go fine.

[crude hamlet]

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[analog current]

looking for 1 to fill a tank squad!

[gentle lintel]

🎶 one is the loneliest number 🎶

[wind shore]

who against who

[finite berry]

Afrikakorps vs the British

[wind shore]

what

colonisation???

thats like 200 years off the rest of the game

[finite berry]

what

You do realise that the Afrikakorps was the German army detachment that fought in North Africa, right

[wind shore]

no

now i know

[finite berry]

Afrikakorps = Africa Corps in English

[wind shore]

why is germany in africa???

[finite berry]

Because we were there historically?

[wind shore]

yeah i know, why

[slate canopy]

According to a quick google search, since I don't know about the North Africa battles, they wanted control of the Suez Canal, protect the flow of oil to Italy and Germany, and a foothold to take middleast and oil reserves.It was more of Italy's push but Germany did quite a few battles.

[proper dock]

Why not

[hardy narwhal]

What type of ammo does the Pak 40 AT gun use? I jus got kicked out of the game for wasting ammo after killing 5 tanks on Stalingrad.

[cold radish]

Oh yeah if there was a hll2 what would it even be? Pacific? Just hll1 but better graphics, and larger?

[echo karma]

If it was an 88 it would 1 tap all.

[cold radish]

Im fairness with paks 88s are inaccurate as hell

[echo karma]

If they change around numbers on tanks etc but not touch at gun ouch

[hardy narwhal]

Yea i mean it more, why would my team kick me for wasting ammo as an AT?

what type of resource am i using in order for them to kick me

[echo karma]

It's an anti everything gun. Pak40 is still reliable tho. It's a video game. Can't 1 shot armour. Would be to op

[cold radish]

Ye its hard to represent the downsides to the gun in a game

[storm stratus]

Is uses the commanders munitions. So the points used to drop bombing runs etc

[echo karma]

Build nodes. Should build them everytime you load in. It's free xp.

[storm stratus]

Just like Artillery. Arty uses 3 per fire. I think the AT uses 5.

[hardy narwhal]

okay makes more sense then

[echo karma]

I don't be kicking my at squads tho. That at gun will win you the game

[hardy narwhal]

yea we were posted up high in one of the buildings in Stalingrad blasting tanks

thnx for the clarification

[echo karma]

Invaluable. Now idk if they argue that's cheating but technically you can put pak up there.

[hardy narwhal]

I saw a clip in pro league, so I dont expect it to be cheating

[storm stratus]

I think the base income without nodes is something like 50-70 per minute. Your firing 5 per shot. So its very hard for a commander to save up.

[echo karma]

Yeah but he could kick arty too. Or complain for nodes

[pine breach]

He can kick rocks.

[wind shore]

AT as in anti tank?

how does this whole node system work anyways

i have never in any capacity seen it come to play

its just a big number in the thousands at the top of the leaderboard

[arctic rampart]

All resources generate passively over time. Default amount is +30/min.
There's nodes that engineers build.
1 engie can make 1 of each node, so a total of 3.
1 node costs 50 supplies (so 1 supply truck box = enough for all nodes)
Each node adds +10 to the generating amount.

The maximum amount of any type of node can be 3. So 3 munitions, 3 manpower, 3 fuel.
Maximum base resource generation speed is +60/min.

Commanders "encourage" ability, increases the built node production by 100%, meaning that +10 from 1 node, turns into +20.
So with all nodes built and encourage on, maximum achievable amount of generation is +90/min.

Then the resources are used up by various things.
Mostly it'll be commanders abilities, but there's also things such as:

• Soldiers deaths taking away from manpower
• Artillery using 3 munitions per HE round or 5 per smoke round
• Anti-Tank emplacements using 5 munitions per shot
  @wind shore

Oh, about placement.

They can be built anywhere in the friendly (blue) territory, but will be destroyed if the sector they are built in gets captured by the enemy

[echo karma]

What he said. But it's an arbitrary resource system from an rts essentially.

[wind shore]

What happens if mannpower runs out? Also what does fuel do. Also by anti tank emplacements you mean the rockets?

[arctic rampart]

So the go-to strat is either making them in spawn with support or commanders supply drop OR to use a supply truck, drive 2 rows/columns out, drop the supply box from the truck on the border, then run back in first points sector and build it.

The only current ways of destroying nodes off the top of my head are:

• satchels
• holding F on them
• precisions
• bombing runs (not sure about this one, but I'd votekick if someone calls it in on nodes)

[echo karma]

If no resource commander is just a rifleman

[arctic rampart]

Nothing happens, you can still spawn. Commander just can't use any manpower related abilities that require it.

By anti-tank emplacements, I mean the literal AT guns that the anti-tank role can build using 50 supplies.

[wind shore]

oh i havent unlocked those yet

Cool

[echo karma]

Satchel and/or caping a zone. Soon flamethrower but flamethrower still trash so I doubt you see it alot

[arctic rampart]

They're strong although niche

[wind shore]

so for literally everyone but commander they dont need to care

[arctic rampart]

Literally everyone should care

You want more flank garries to attack from? Guess who's gonna drop the supplies 9/10 times.

[wind shore]

idk just never heard them being talked about

[arctic rampart]

You want a tank? Guess who's gonna spawn it

You want an airhead, or a reinforce so you don't lose a point? Guess who's gonna do that

[wind shore]

so is it just a build it at HQ and forget sort of thing?

[echo karma]

No munitions no at gun or arty. No fuel. No tanks or vehicles. It's pretty impactful. Everyone should care. Seeing as it takes teamwork to build them sometimes

[arctic rampart]

Usually you build it right outside of 2nd sector, but for the most part yeah - you just forget about the nodes.

Unless someone's actually so bored in their crappy lives that they go and dismantle it

[wind shore]

interesting

[arctic rampart]

In a even game, commander is like 15-20% of the team, so it's a big chunk if played poorly or screwed over by lack of resources

[wind shore]

how hard is commander anyways

dont seem that difficult

[arctic rampart]

The physical playing is quite easy.
The tactics and knowledge of when to do what are not that easy

[echo karma]

Like an sl on crack

[arctic rampart]

SL is harder

[wind shore]

is commander playing Hoi4 and then everyone else is playing an FPS

thats how ive thought of it

[arctic rampart]

No

[worthy charm]

me after playing recon sniper for the first time in months and not hitting anything with my rifle.

[arctic rampart]

Commander is like HoI4 AFK + FPS + Forza Horizon 5

[echo karma]

Usually either build back garrisons or build em forward depending on team. Call in stuff. Etc.

Watch the map like a hawk

[wind shore]

so whats the point in, existing in the world

[echo karma]

And listen to everyone screaming in leadership chat

[wind shore]

99% of commanders AFK in spawn anyways

[arctic rampart]

New commanders make a lot of little mistakes. Those mistakes add up over the hour and 30 minutes that result in a loss.

[wind shore]

True

[arctic rampart]

And if your cmd is just afking in spawn, he's already making one of those small mistakes

[wind shore]

What else he meant to do??

Dead people cant call in air strikes

[arctic rampart]

Constant driving around in a supply truck in order to have 3-4 def garries, 2-3 attack garies and 1 backup garry on previous point

[echo karma]

I think you need game knowledge to play sl too tho. Got to know where specific garrisons go etc

[arctic rampart]

SL has a lower skill floor whilst the skill ceiling is nearly doubled that of commander

[cosmic pilot]

Based

[wind shore]

why does everyone run away from squad leader like cockroaches run from light

[echo karma]

While sl can build garrisons. It's usually commander building defensive garrisons etc. No sense in a a whole squad on 1st cap

[wind shore]

literally, start of game, stare at 0 squads for 30 seconds, make a squad and its filled in 3 seconds

[arctic rampart]

Because squad leader comes with a magical thing

It's called ✨ responsibility ✨

[wind shore]

To who?

[arctic rampart]

To the entire team and their own squad especially

[wind shore]

just run around and put OPS in dumb places

[echo karma]

Idk. Lot of inexperienced ppl. Don't know about squad fire superiority etc. And the bullet suppression mechanics

[wind shore]

thats what i do

[arctic rampart]

I just lost a match not 30 minutes ago due to 4 SL's being dogwater

[wind shore]

its not that hard though i mean come on

[arctic rampart]

One of 'em was a recon which was especially bad

[echo karma]

Love when I call in supplies. Sl looks around like he doesn't know what a garrison is. Build it in the red lol

[wind shore]

the SLs are probably only sls because no other roles exist

no other open squads

[echo karma]

Or smg lol

[wind shore]

true

[echo karma]

If I go into a squad with no sl I kick everyone

[wind shore]

also you can just leave and rejoin your own squad

[wind shore]

What happens when you kick everyone?

Do they spontaneously fail to live

[echo karma]

They stay there role but they have no squad. When they die they have to join a new squad

[real parrot]

They become orphan

[arctic rampart]

No, they just don't have a squad when they get back to the deploy menu

[molten sail]

well kills dont matter garrisons win games

[wind shore]

true

[echo karma]

I e. Don't do the join then leave for your fav role bs

[real parrot]

Thats illegal

[arctic rampart]

All chads join squads w/o SL's only to kick 'em all out and disband the squad

[real parrot]

You'll get banned for it in most servers

[wind shore]

as if anybody is checking

[echo karma]

Better to have a bunch of blueberries with no sl?

[real parrot]

There is a bot for that

[wind shore]

most people just wanna do their own thing

[arctic rampart]

Then most people can f off

[wind shore]

-99% playerbase

[real parrot]

If someone don't want to do teamplay, they should not play this game

[wind shore]

too bad

[arctic rampart]

I ain't gonna glaze nobody. Lvl 50 or 500. Don't want to play without the basic needs such as a SL or comms, then screw off

[real parrot]

Seeing how things are, I'm so grateful for having a comm where people actually try to play instead of just wasting bandwidth

[wind shore]

is it a crime to want to play a game without responsibility and/or a squad leader to talk you around the palce

[echo karma]

Exactly. They can hear you by default in the squad chat. They can either listen or get kicked. There is non voice communication chat wheel. Remeber guys

[real parrot]

You can always play rifleman or go to minecraft

[wind shore]

minecraft doesnt have realistic killing germans gameplay

[echo karma]

I personally think they should change the level requirement for SL and commander to be higher

[real parrot]

Yes it does, you just need some mods

[arctic rampart]

You're mixing it up.

Playing a non-critical role like assault or automatic rifleman in a squad isn't an issue.
If you take squad lead and then play normal infantry (not arty or garry supply truck runs) and come in here saying you don't need to comm. Then you are by all objective arguments, a complete moron.

[wind shore]

i aint said that, ofcourse a SL should do SL things

[arctic rampart]

These discussion have been twisted and turned to look from every PoV there is. They're always gonna stay the same.

[echo karma]

The avg player isint watching soul sniper videos to learn each role etc

[wind shore]

im just saying as long as he aint blocking the spot and wants to shoot people, let hium

[wind shore]

precisely

[finite berry]

perhaps he should

[arctic rampart]

Yeah, go automatic rifleman. Do the most basic of necessities your SL asks you to do, such as:

• defending when it's needed
• attacking when it's advantagous
• or simply clearing the OP/garry you just spawned by or are running by

And life's gonna be great for everyone.

[echo karma]

Therefore it's the games fault they don't teach you each role then?

[real parrot]

Its the games fault for existing

[wind shore]

True

[finite berry]

It's the game's fault for not teaching new players, it's the player's fault for wanting to play HLL like CoD

sOmE pEoPLe jUsT wAnNa eNjoY tHe gAmE

[wind shore]

when i started playing i wanted to shoot germans and be horrified by the realism

too much complexity

give gun show me man, man down, thank you very much

[finite berry]

If that means sticking your fingers into your ears and trying to go rambo style, that's in 9/10 cases the wrong game for you, sorry not sorry

[wind shore]

aww man

[real parrot]

I know a guy that when we started said "I want to be in a sherman and find a Tiger in front of us and scream in agony" and I answered, wtf me to

[finite berry]

Yeah sorry, but if you want to play HLL like CoD, you often won't have much fun and actively worsen the experience for everyone else

[arctic rampart]

Anyways....
Nodes are good. Always build nodes if they're not up yet.
It's very needed

[wind shore]

wha

oh yeah nodes

[worthy charm]

Thats commander propaganda!

[real parrot]

Nodes are good, make nodes, nodes will save you

[slate canopy]

Nodes are also free xp 😎

[junior fossil]

reminds me of someone named Bob

[arctic rampart]

Good point I forgot to mention actually

[real parrot]

never seen that guy, he must be pretty experienced

[arctic rampart]

@wind shore
One critical thing I forgot to mention about nodes, but good thing polar brought up.
is that they generate xp for the person who built them.

So you build them and they generate support score. Support score = extra xp at the end of the match.
And that xp gained goes towards the class you're actively playing.

Meaning you can build the nodes as engineer, then swap to support. And any xp gained passively from the nodes will go towards the support role.

[worthy charm]

He has to be the best Player ever in this game, I heard he can tell you a way to grind any class to max lvl. in like 3 hours.🤯

[real parrot]

He must have built a large set of knowledge

[worthy charm]

He sure has built up a lot.

[real parrot]

heh

[arctic rampart]

built*

[worthy charm]

Ok, enough sarcasm for today.

[junior fossil]

He was the best builder of the Galaxy

A cunning engineer

[real parrot]

Ayo what

[junior fossil]

And a great Friend

[split locust]

Hi yall, I'm new. Anyone you recommend to build up some knowledge in the game and max out classes within 3 hours? Thanks!!

[worthy charm]

No one tell him!!!

Its forbidden knowledge!!!

[wind shore]

oh nice

also cant you just go to a dead server with a friend and farm xp

[arctic rampart]

Yeah, but you ain't getting far with it

[wind shore]

why not

[arctic rampart]

Boring af

[wind shore]

what

read a book while doing it

[arctic rampart]

There's ways to exploit the xp system as is, it's just suuuper pathetic to do

[worthy charm]

You could, but its neither fun or effectiv

[wind shore]

its fine

[real parrot]

today I was playing in El Alamein and we found a Jeep with the sniper and spotter while driving the Tiger out of HQ, and my gunner scored a headshot on the driver of the Jeep with the main cannon AP. The sniper did not have a great day.

[junior fossil]

dk about that, go ask Bob, he can build anything for you but actual valor

[arctic rampart]

Plus, I can guarantee I will cuss heavily at you if you are level 150+ and place dogwater garrisons

[wind shore]

i will be at level 1000 and place garrysons On HQ spawn

[queen terrace]

is there any way to recover a satchel charge? like can i get a new one somewhere?

[arctic rampart]

Chances are that's not even a bad garry

[wind shore]

bruh

[arctic rampart]

Rocket ammo box

[junior fossil]

no

[queen terrace]

well thats not good

[worthy charm]

Max. level is 500😆

[wind shore]

level 500 then

[arctic rampart]

You can resupply a satchel from a explosive ammo box that can be placed by a infantry guy or support guy if they have the role level for it

[worthy charm]

Respawning is what the chads do.😎

[bleak niche]

Any advice for a brand noob ? 🙃

[queen terrace]

im at the beach on omaha beach, spawn camped a tank

[arctic rampart]

• don't play official servers, only community
• talk with people via mic
• don't play squad lead, spotter, tank commander or normal commander

[queen terrace]

mofos pulled up in a 76 sherman

[worthy charm]

#telegrams message you could watch this short tutorial.

[queen terrace]

screw it ill just go sleep

[arctic rampart]

My tutorial's shorter

[junior fossil]

don’t steal the commander’s jeep and shoot him dead or else I’ll bury you alive

[arctic rampart]

Every time someone asks for a jeep, just spawn them a supply truck

[junior fossil]

Just kidding but pls don’t do that

[bleak niche]

Thanks will check it out

[worthy charm]

Doesnt have the same amount of style

[oak current]

what a cool tutorial

Woowzies!

[worthy charm]

Its the best one! I have heard that at least...

[next fog]

What's popping gang

[worthy charm]

-# For legal reasons, I need to highlight this isnt a paid advertisment.

[junior fossil]

burning splint + test tube filled with h2 gas

[tawny lynx]

Hello everybody ☺️

[junior fossil]

hello

[tawny lynx]

Gretings From Pl squad CGT

[arctic rampart]

ok

[junior fossil]

btw does anyone brother to spam bug report about certain issues

[arctic rampart]

No point

Sheet doesn't get fixed

[junior fossil]

I know

[arctic rampart]

It's just like suggestions.
For the first two years of playing, I'd make on here and there on stuff I genuinely thought would be required.
Now, I just go there to dunk on peoples dogwater ideas, because they're just that bad

[junior fossil]

I might be the only one left who is still determined to get the k98 bolt fixed at this point😂

and the floating weapons

and the f@cked up texture of the british at gun

[arctic rampart]

Kharkovs invisible props were reported within 3 days of showing up. They haven't been fixed for like 6+ months now (don't recall exactly when the update dropped)

So if they don't think invisible props on one of 3 russian maps is an issue to fix quickly, then nothing we report will be important enough

[junior fossil]

the only that have been fixed which I addressed before is the flamethrower canister

LITERALLY THE ONLY THING IN MY 13PAGES MEMO

that hasn’t been ignored

[arctic rampart]

That's why I sometimes feel bad about Sam. Dude puts in so much work and they don't give a single crap lol

[junior fossil]

can’t agree more

[arctic rampart]

Same goes for mods like Maxim and #1270189497719586908. So much work, even community members chipping in to help

[junior fossil]

still thinking about making something like #savehll or sum

[arctic rampart]

no lol

[junior fossil]

same answer I received in 2023

But I’m still looking forward to future updates

perhaps one day our voices can be heard

PERHAPS

(though I know our voices have been heard long ago, they just ignore it😄)

(95% of the time)

[wind shore]

whats a PTENDA

play to earn non disclosure agreement???

so many confusing acronyms

[atomic pendant]

What do you guys think the new Eastern front map will be?

We know it'll be 1943

And "urban"

So I'm thinking Kiev maybe

[junior fossil]

def Kyiv

[pine ember]

That wasnt in Summer

[atomic pendant]

Did they specify summer?

[pine ember]

I was hoping for Kyiv or something in Ukraine, but most think it will be Smolensk

[pine ember]

Yes

[atomic pendant]

Ah ok

Hmm then yea smolensk would be a good guess

[pine ember]

Lets just wait what they will announce

[atomic pendant]

Smolensk doesn't seem all that urban from what I'm seeing when I research it though

But I don't know much about that battle

[pine ember]

Yea, even if its a big city it looks like a bit of Carentan

[pine ember]

Same, it isnt that famous either since in that time most action happened in Ukraine, I would have preferred another map in Ukraine and Southern Russia too

[finite berry]

Kharkov? :>

[pine ember]

A Kharkov city map would be cool too

[finite berry]

Although

I completely forgot it already is a thing, just in Winter

Doubt they're gonna go with it again

[wind shore]

is that the real soul sniper man???

omg, someone mentioned you once

[junior fossil]

(just remove the snow and call it a day)

[pine ember]

Yes, but thats the outskirts of Belgorod which was a part of the battle itself, but not the city of Kharkov directly

There were four battles in Kharkov, another one should be added since we have two for Hürtgen and 7(!) for Normandy

[arctic rampart]

Lots of things should be added

[worthy charm]

They said it already was suggested.

[worthy charm]

Pacific?

[thorny acorn]

so still looking for new eastern front map?

damn, nothing new?

[arctic rampart]

no

[junior fossil]

yea that’s about all we’ll get in 2025

[thorny acorn]

no i watched the stream, im asking of we learnt something new about the eastern front map

[junior fossil]

yes but not much

1943, urban, eastern front

[thorny acorn]

so summer, 43 and urban

[junior fossil]

I mean there’s dozens of lesser known cities or towns they can pick

[thorny acorn]

but it has been suggested before

[slate canopy]

I believe they said it was suggested. Up to you if you want to speculate a map.

[thorny acorn]

they definitely said it was suggested

[junior fossil]

either this or that

concrete on muddy lands

there are but aren’t much to be expected from the easten front honestly

[craggy steppe]

I don't think the devs can make a completely urban map. They have had many good options and they always fail to deliver.

A completely urban environment would probably run at 20fps.

[wind shore]

what makes you say that

[atomic pendant]

I'm real yes lol

[wind shore]

bless me oh sniper gun man, how do i kill the enemies most effectively???

[craggy steppe]

Carentan was a lag fest when it came. Stalingrad still stutters. They had the opportunity to make a map of Kharkov, but they made a suburb of Belgorod and not a urban map.

[wind shore]

uhhhh

Ok then, crewman pistol + windows magnifier will be enacted 👍🏻

[atomic pendant]

I agree that they seem to be ducking making a proper urban map. Like...why would you look at Berlin, which everyone wants, and be like "nah let's not."

They must feel they are limited by performance and won't be able to create a performant large city map. It's a shame too because it would be a unique experience.

[empty steppe]

That’s that best tactic right there 🫡

[junior fossil]

they’ll probably make it semi urban

[empty steppe]

Yeah I’m not sure why they don’t want to add Berlin right now, It honestly would make a good map if they put the effort in

There’s also so much content that could come with it

[junior fossil]

like only including the outskirts of the city and the rest are just vast fields

[bleak niche]

First attempt got killed a lot and killed a couple 😂

Already hooked though 😂

[keen glen]

great

[elder notch]

I saw a YouTube comment suggesting what I also think the map will be:

Operation Kutuzov, specifically the capture of Orel

It fits really well with Kursk, if HLL ever decides to create an Operations game mode like BF1

[wind shore]

Orel was captured for 2 hours

[elder notch]

Yikes, well I mean the match could be historically accurate 😂

[worthy charm]

Also it wasnt suggested and the devs stated someone already made a suggestion for the new map.

[empty steppe]

Yk… another one that really would fit is the second battle of Kiev

That was in 1943

That would make a great map

[nova pivot]

I hope they give us a teaser of the Russian map when Tobruk comes out.

Just like they did with Tobruk when Elsenborne came out

[wind shore]

Yes, it was in late November - Battle of Kiev

[wind shore]

In November , it will be snow map or just late autumn map

[empty steppe]

Yes battle of Kiev was november through December

So that’s definitely a big possibility

[cinder agate]

HHD

[past veldt]

There is your problem

[keen glen]

😂

[worthy charm]

A good SSD isnt that expensive anymore.😅

[past vortex]

even a bad ssd so much faster

[empty steppe]

Official guess’s from me are Smolensk or Kiev

There wasn’t many other large scale urban battles besides those

[past vortex]

karkov 43 also had urban combat

[empty steppe]

Which we already have

[past vortex]

but not urban

[empty steppe]

Ig they might make a urban one

Like in the city Kharkov

[wind shore]

Kharkov map it’s Belgorod outskirts in game

[empty steppe]

I don’t think they’d do another Kharkov tho

[wind shore]

It’s western outskirts of Belgorod to be correct - in game

[empty steppe]

Well yea but it’s called Kharkov

[nova pivot]

I hope it will be a big city with multi-story buildings, not like Kharkov.

[wind shore]

Yes it was called the Battle of Kharkov

[empty steppe]

Kiev and Smolensk would sort of give us that hopefully

[worthy charm]

Like stalingrad but with less ruins and no hill on one side

[empty steppe]

That’s what Kiev would probably be similar to 🤞

[worthy charm]

I take anything thats a bit urban and isnt a forest

[empty steppe]

Facts lol

[wind shore]

1943 it has ruins

[empty steppe]

I mean Kiev would be the most urban map they would have if they added it

If you look at photos from that battles, it’s absolutely insanity

[wind shore]

Before the retreating of the main forces, most of the buildings were in mines and some of them were destroyed. Rearguards were in defensive in 1943 and they were covering the retreating of the main forces

German rearguards troops were existed from new soldiers who came recently to the battlefield or ground services of Luftwaffe AA crews sometimes

[worthy charm]

Some are fine but having huge and open buildings on like half the map, would be so cool.

[empty steppe]

I’ll send photos in ww2 history

So the city is partially ruins

[wind shore]

Something were described in combat military journals ( notices or reports from the commanders about the combat of WW2 )

[atomic pendant]

It's definitely a "big hype" map that would draw people in

[thin lotus]

whatever maps the devs decide to bring in, they just have to make sure that the most interesting section of the area is put into one of the far corners so that players hardly ever play in it

I'm sure they'll keep that in mind

[past vortex]

certainly. as sure as they will totally fix the qol stuff and the idiotic scoring :}

[nova pivot]

And Fog

[past vortex]

at night

[thin lotus]

🙏

[past vortex]

in a sandstorm

[thin lotus]

HLLs scoreboard might be the most useless display of info in any game ever

[past vortex]

its worse than useless

since you actually need it :}

[nova pivot]

It needs fog

[past vortex]

dynamic scoreboard, randomly available info

[empty steppe]

Oh totally, it was a big draw in enlisted and ofc made iconic by cod waw, Reichstag would be awesome 😎

[storm stratus]

Off topic. They need to add a ping for enemy nodes. And add more points/exp for destroying them. By hand a whole minute per node. And you get nothing for it practically.

[slate canopy]

I usually mark "Request nodes"

[past vortex]

whole scoring doesnt make too much sense

[hexed radish]

Do the devs play their own game?

[empty steppe]

Go ask them ig

[slate canopy]

They do. 🙂 They are interested in playing with the community more and maybe even the suggestion of the War Correspondents vs Devs

[signal path]

How do I get perms to post in pc division recruiting?

[slate canopy]

#division-rules Rules and how to get it in here.

[lunar ice]

Are structures like bunkers counted to xp for how much u built or if u just banged it once with ur hammer it just gives u a lump of xp

[hexed radish]

Its just weird because after so long this game feels like its in beta

[slate canopy]

🪄 Magic~

[slate canopy]

Currently, you get blueprint XP if you place down the blueprint, but not hammering. You do get XP for helping finish the blueprint if you didn't put the blueprint down. (From a score sheet last updated August 2024)

[brittle inlet]

was a “full” tank crew ever considered in development or updates? like, 5 guys, same 3 seats but with the addition of bow gunner and loader

[slate canopy]

The only known tank changes possible in the future would be remove the tier system and have different acceleration speeds, turret speeds, and maybe specific tanks having special abilities. It's more of a exploration and seeing if that works and be able to have a relative balance. (per the Community Q&A #1)

[wind shore]

Oh , I think it will take guys from the battlefield

3 tank squads with 5 men = -15 players from the battle

Just unbalanced for this size of players could be

[wind shore]

PTE comes much earlier this year for next map, so developers will have time and not rushing before 2 weeks of realise, was mentioned in QA. So maybe, when we will see PTE much earlier, so it could be 2 PTE at all

First - just PTE , and they will have enough time to polish and complete it, and second - more close to map drop

[storm stratus]

Bang it once i think. But you might need to be holding as it completes. Do getting there late still works

[burnt yoke]

Yeah that would def be too many IMO, 9 is already almost 20 percent of the team

[flint belfry]

Guys, can anyone tell me how to quickly raise the level of HLL?

[slate canopy]

One option is XP farms, but that's up to you if you want to do that.
Otherwise, I always suggest to build nodes and switch to the class you want to play. As long as those nodes stay up, you get that XP toward whatever class you play.

[wind shore]

Yeah, you meant , not leaving the urban area in the corner of the map

[flint belfry]

What are experience farms? I don't know about that.

[flint belfry]

It's just the first time I hear about this and I don't know how does it even work in HLL

[slate canopy]

They are servers where you can farm XP without actually battling.

[flint belfry]

Can I ask you to send me the server in PM, if that's possible. I just had an account on Epic Games, but it turned out that after buying the same game on Steam, it's impossible to synchronize, that's why I'm thinking about it

[slate canopy]

Yeah, no cross-progress between platforms... although you can link your epic account on your steam accont (however I don't think it applies any of your levels). Bob The Builder is the most commonly known one.

[covert elbow]

Idk why we don’t have cross progression tbh. We make T17 accounts so it should be possible I would assume

[echo karma]

If they change xp requirements soon.tm hopefully all that is negated. It's more of a hindrance now

[storm stratus]

There is. Not sure if i’ll get introuble. Search “Bob The Builder”

[storm stratus]

I see you already said it. My chats never at the bottom when i open discord.

[lucid shale]

wtf is the point in making a locked infrantry squad for just 2 damn people

[echo karma]

Lol I just got vtk cuz I told them how to play the game.

[echo karma]

Could be arty. Or recon. Who knows

[brittle inlet]

if you’re running artillery and don’t want to get bothered

[lucid shale]

just leave it open and let the other guys in ur squad go off and do their own thing

[echo karma]

I ussualy designate as arty tho

[echo karma]

No that is not how you play the game

[lucid shale]

it would literally make 0 difference

[brittle inlet]

i can’t find the commendation emoji to react with so imagine i did

[brittle inlet]

whole heartbeat of this entire game is communication from command to officer to infantry

[echo karma]

Gp play battlefield you wanna run around and be a one man army. This game is about teamwork

[brittle inlet]

no communication = disorganized mess of a team

[lucid shale]

u rly think people communicate how their meant to communicate in this game

[brittle inlet]

yes most of the time they do

[echo karma]

Game dashboard twice in a row lol

[lucid shale]

the amount of officers/commanders who dont have mics and dont communicate is insane

[brittle inlet]

are we playing the same game

i don’t think it’s THAT bad

[echo karma]

Yes I definitely go In leadership and ask the commander why no defense garrisons?

[lucid shale]

and the amount of servers who bot their servers is insane too i just left one that said it had 50 players and yet theres only 2 people on each team the rest just havent even spawned

[brittle inlet]

“game pass issue is getting out of hand! when will they learn how to play”

not directed towards you i just remember when people were getting angry at the flood of new players during game pass release

[lucid shale]

its not even a gamepass issue at this point its just people trying to play it like its call of duty or some roleplay game

[brittle inlet]

and how there was an odd amount of people who did not know how to spawn

[lucid shale]

its bots fr to make people wanna join when theres not many players

makes it look more appealing to join

u wouldnt join a server with only 5 players would u

[brittle inlet]

it’s why i never play on community servers as a console peasant, also because dedicated servers are kind of a “run rampant on your own” deal

[lucid shale]

there isnt a single official server where i dont have under 300 ping

so im stuck on community servers

[brittle inlet]

i hate the rubber banding in vehicles

although it hasn’t been too bad in recent weeks like it was a while ago

[lucid shale]

yeah but i still aint playing on anything over 100 ping

theres no point ill just end up lagging out

[echo karma]

I hope one day we get a crash report on console.

There are so many bugs and t17 doesn't care.

[brittle inlet]

the random crashes every game for one..

getting in tanks and starting them is a roll of the dice

not too high of a chance, but a fairly medium sized chance, that the game just crashes

[covert elbow]

Gabbagool

[pine breach]

🤌

[wind shore]

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[gentle lintel]

https://tenor.com/view/turn-up-volume-11-hype-turnedup-gif-27175135

[wind shore]

It's your money, use it when you need it!

[covert elbow]

What if I don’t want to use it

[wind shore]

I wasn't ready for that

[covert elbow]

The bamboozle

[lucid shale]

why dont u call me instead 1800-U-Need-B*tches

[gentle lintel]

Sounds fishy

[covert elbow]

I do not want to be taken over by a cyber terrorist thank you

[pine breach]

Well, you sound kitty.

Do something about it.

[gentle lintel]

MODERATTORRRSSS

[pine breach]

I AM INNOCENT! MOOOOM!

@ greg

[gentle lintel]

dont you dare

[pine breach]

Don't dare me, I will be obligated to do it

[wind shore]

Hi all

[worthy charm]

This really should be ben.

[pine ember]

Kyiv was occupied by oviet forces on 6. November, so it isnt late November

[wind shore]

okay, but in November it's already snow

[pine ember]

Not in every case

[wind shore]

agree, but for Kiev map 1943 should be late autumn aesthetics or snow

[violet arch]

My dad played a match

He said it's too hard

[pine breach]

That sounds like a SKILL ISSUE!!!

https://tenor.com/view/hahahaha-gif-27342590

[worthy charm]

What a wicked goose.

[pine breach]

@gentle lintel i'm tempted to send "Kill All Humans" in #honeypot

It says I must verify.. so I will verify..

[lucid shale]

calling me ain't gonna be what causes u to get taken over dw that ships sailed lol

[lucid shale]

do it

no balls you wont

[wind shore]

i hope the only change they make to medic is give him m1/g43 because i know this chat would rage

[worthy charm]

Making it a weirder rifleman isnt quite the solution.

[novel geyser]

Remove all automatic weapons

[finite berry]

Bolt-action MG 42

[novel geyser]

By popular demand
Weapon jamming is being added

[worthy charm]

Bunnyhoping when?

[grizzled kiln]

Rocket jumping when ??

[wind shore]

panzernests when?

[worthy charm]

Cant you already do that?

[wind shore]

or krabs

PTE,wheen pls pls pls

Tobruk, and in QA was mentioned - the PTE in this year would be much earlier than it was before

it would be super rough, but it would be better on release

if we gonna play playtest much earlier, so they said, not to rush before 2 weeks

i can't wait for PTE

[pine breach]

@gentle lintel geektheif dares me to verify myself in #honeypot. What happens if I do? 👀

[cyan saddle]

There will be minimal permanent damage

Feel free to try it

[winter rover]

I am

back

[empty steppe]

I mean… if you shoot at the ground, your parts will go flying pretty far? 😂😂

[pine breach]

What kind of damage?

[short crypt]

Hi

[tawny lynx]

hello, gentlemens, could you give me a hint on how to assemble the ticet

?

never mind

[near oyster]

Do any of you know the HLL server "Garrisons & Whiskey Ξ Lvl +50 Only"? If so, can you please tell me the name of their discord server I can't find it anywhere and have to talk to an admin.

[cyan saddle]

I'll DM you

[thin lotus]

HLL 🤣

[rocky dune]

.divagree

[worthy charm]

You need to spell it right the first time, otherwise it doesnt work

[real parrot]

I just won a game caping the middle point with 30 sec left russing the heavy inside the hardcap while playing the anthem of our clan that I made myself in prox chat (with AI).
Pure HLL experience

[sonic parrot]

Well well well an imposter I see

[worthy charm]

Nah, thats just chum

He always like that.

[sonic parrot]

Chum copied me tho

[worthy charm]

You saw when he joined the discord server? I think you didnt, he was here long before most of us. His being is very mystic and acient, the ways of old long forgotten and he is a relic of this past.

[wind shore]

@gentle lintel Hi , Drew! Do you know is Discord made new limitation for images?