mess-hall

[thorny acorn]

lol

[covert elbow]

Absolutely

[thorny acorn]

and Tannenberg too

[empty steppe]

That game has a special place in my heart even for its age

Verdun in 2025 would be a really cool addition though

I think they may have learned there lesson, blackmill has stepped up its game with isonzo

[thorny acorn]

we should get a game about Osowiec

[covert elbow]

Where is that again? Balkans?

[thorny acorn]

attack of the dead men is such a great setting

[covert elbow]

Ooooh that’s right

[thorny acorn]

modern poland, russian empire back in ww1

[empty steppe]

I’m just waiting for a new Vietnam title, rs2 getting old and buggy 🥲

[covert elbow]

Such a killer song as well

[thorny acorn]

oh yea

[covert elbow]

Love me some sabaton

[covert elbow]

Burning lands burning was sad yet funny

[thorny acorn]

sabaton always went hard

[empty steppe]

Fav band right there lol

[thorny acorn]

i used to blast only two songs about Serbia and nothing else

but they are great

[covert elbow]

https://tenor.com/view/serbia-serbia-itachi-gif-24130496

[empty steppe]

Hey there’s some hope out there for other titles, I think soul sniper showed off some stuff on one, and we are getting a new game from the rising storm studio from the Cold War

[empty steppe]

Last dying breath 😝

[covert elbow]

84’ right? Wasn’t that delayed indefinitely but got back in production?

[cyan saddle]

83

[empty steppe]

Yeah looks pretty good, I’m excited

[covert elbow]

Think your wrong abu

[empty steppe]

They better have fixed the vaulting animation

[cyan saddle]

looks like an 83 to me

[empty steppe]

RS2 is atrocious for that

[covert elbow]

Photoshopped

[thorny acorn]

ye, and lady of the dark i believe , its about Milunka Savic, the female soldier with most medals

also for the premier of last dying breath that happened in Belgrade they played the famous speech before the song

idk if it was the premier or just for the live performance but it was cool

shame I was a 10yr old back rhen

[empty steppe]

https://store.steampowered.com/app/1059220/83/

That’s ‘83’s page on steam

Gameplay looks just like rs2

[thorny acorn]

wasn't that project abandoned

[cyan saddle]

it was taken over

[thorny acorn]

or im confusing my vietnam shooters (cold war, tbh i dont even know anymore)

[thorny acorn]

oh ok

[empty steppe]

Eh same thing

A war inside of the Cold War haha

But also the Cold War wasn’t a war

[thorny acorn]

ik that much lol

i was just talking about the setting

[covert elbow]

If I had a nickel for every MilSim game that got taken over after it was abandoned by the previous devs

[thorny acorn]

youd have like idk 2?

or way more

[empty steppe]

I don’t think company’s really have a idea how much work needs to be put into building them 😅

[thorny acorn]

just make the same game but better

easy

[covert elbow]

They never do

[covert elbow]

What are you the head of T17?

[thin lotus]

nah,
do the same thing every other bad "large scale combined arms hardcore tactical shooter" has done, and wonder why it flopped again

[thorny acorn]

wow u figured me out

[empty steppe]

Jokes on you he actually is 😎😂

[empty steppe]

Still waiting for Medieval one 😉

[thorny acorn]

-# delete this and we add anything u request
/jk

[empty steppe]

Or something with personality

[empty steppe]

🫨

Gimme Berlin pigeon 🤣

[thorny acorn]

here u go
https://maps.app.goo.gl/5xE3QLm1B4NzAoxA9

[empty steppe]

Full open metro system too don’t forget that

[empty steppe]

This man’s a genius

[thorny acorn]

idk what a metro is, we don't got it in Belgrade yet

[empty steppe]

Looks a bit modern though 🤣

[thorny acorn]

thats how we imagined it would be

[empty steppe]

Oop 😂

I think it’s actually called the U-bahn in Berlin

[royal rivet]

This 4 months roadmap after new year better be good depends i gonna buy their dlc or not

[covert elbow]

If you think it’s gonna be good be prepared to be disappointed

If it takes them 1/4th of the year to develop a roadmap said to be close to finished in December, and we have gotten zero content in 4 months what makes you think this is going to be good?

[echo karma]

You must be new around here huh?

[covert elbow]

No haha

That’s why I’m not holding out any hope

Hell I’m starting to believe this roadmaps going to include a “final update” and that’s why it’s taken them so long

[echo karma]

T17 Co developed the British and relased them in the worst state possible. It was months before there basic rifles were sighted in bro.

Not to mention they change something random every month that no one asked for

[ashen basin]

El Al was not ready (blackmatter)

Yet T17 rushed it out....

That's why the British launched with poor management.

[echo karma]

Like hey no more filters and here's 50 night maps. And there "new" guys. Look what we did!

[royal rivet]

Thanks for giving me reality check LOL

[covert elbow]

Haha your welcome

If it’s a good one we’ll both be pleasantly suprised

[lucid tusk]

If we don't get at least 3 new maps and some major QoL changes I'll be disappointed

[covert elbow]

Be prepared then

Fairly certain we’re only getting 2 just like last year

[royal rivet]

With no new assets

[worthy charm]

There 100% are new assets, have you seen the city on tobruk?

[royal rivet]

Oh

[worthy charm]

Those houses are new, its still sad the City isnt the middle of the map...🥲

More CQC would be so cool.

[midnight nacelle]

They're adding hand to hand gladiatorial fighting! /s

[worthy charm]

Imagine😆

Give me a spear and a net, i will 1v1 anyone.

[finite berry]

Never-ever that's gonna happen. Why would they kill their own cash cow

[woven lynx]

man this is like a reddit subpage

[analog apex]

HLL U18: The final insult
xD

[arctic rampart]

Can't wait 🔥

Imagine if they don't put the roadmap out this week and delay it even further 💀

[storm stratus]

Cash Cow? Is it really making them that much. Most players that have it now aren’t paying anything for additional content.

[arctic rampart]

Well if the stories of them not paying for server hosting of the official servers are true, then any revenue is good revenue. Even if it's just the price tag from new players via steam, xbox, gamepass, epic and playstation.

[storm stratus]

I don’t know if they really pulling that many new players anymore. Alot of people would of snapped up that free copy on Epic and used that to decide if they will be long term players or not. The base of all player. Most never stay.

[smoky urchin]

Tin foil hat moment. St marie du mont battle took place 6th of June, Roadmap confirmed for 6th June.

[arctic rampart]

I think events such as the Steam Spring sale going on right now still pull a few thousand people to buy it, even at a discount. That's still profit at the end of the day.
Combine that over all the platforms and it's still generating revenue.
Clearly not enough to get full on devs to work on the game at a reasonable pace, but enough to get 1 guy + Ben doing his PR talk in here 😄

[storm stratus]

Never makes sense to me that a small dev team can build something. But once its built it takes even more people and more money to keep it going, then they abandon projects to focus on others and there budgets for there next titles are far higher. But the quality still isn’t there.

[arctic rampart]

Same dude

[worthy charm]

What would be another month at this point?

[wind shore]

Tobruk and next content

DLC

[analog apex]

Well, I have expected a new DLC even with Tobruk, regardless the lateness of the roadmap.

[worthy charm]

Im looking forward to the roadmap, the teaser kinda hyped me up.

Imagine we would get it today.🥹

[cyan saddle]

That would be unheard of.

[chrome furnace]

[turbid plaza]

Give me whatever roles i need to post in the recruitment channel

[slate canopy]

If you are talking about recruiting for a clan? You can find the rules and how to get the role in #division-rules

[turbid plaza]

Word thanks

[gentle lintel]

not even a please, smh

[pine ember]

We havent

[wind shore]

Upper Echelon DLC

[pine ember]

That doesnt count

[lucid tusk]

It's going to release either Thursday or friday

[pearl ledge]

Sunday at 11:59pm most likely

[fierce nexus]

Well it’s Tuesday. When’s the roadmap releasing?

[robust flint]

wonder if its a roadmap about when the roadmap will be released

[fierce nexus]

News update: we will be providing a news update next week

[arctic rampart]

I mean, that's literally the post in #telegrams

[sturdy quarry]

in the meantime lets have a HLL NFT competition

https://www.team17.com/news/team17-to-end-metaworms-nft-project

[robust flint]

no no, that is just the advert about the roadmap of the roadmap

[past vortex]

after one day :O

[ember slate]

Fc mobile player

[past vortex]

so the roadmap will have something with nfts

thats why its delayed, they have to roll it back :}

[fierce nexus]

Honestly, I hope they start developing a HLL2. The backend in this game is horrible and they need to just create a game from scratch

[stoic garnet]

The company that bought this game can’t edit the maps without pushing catastrophic issues to live servers. If they can make a HLL successor from scratch I can crap gold

[wind shore]

so if they started ,in logic they created kickstarter page

could create, so we will know it anyways, if HLL2 will be in developing

[fierce nexus]

Team 17 is just a publisher so they could get the OG devs with a mid-sized studio to get it done...dx12 would be incredible lmao

[wind shore]

when HLL was created , it was on kickstarter as I know

UE5 or own engine could appear if they will do HLL2

[fierce nexus]

ChatGPT could probably code a better backend

[robust flint]

I know the dude was sick when he thought of the game, cause he couldnt continue snow-skiing or something like that, so went to go sit down by the fire and wrote down the base of HLL

[wind shore]

ChatGPT could fix the current code

oh , that's nice! AI could make games better

it could be faster 3X to create map for example

[fierce nexus]

Man...they fix one thing in this game and it breaks 5 other functions

[wind shore]

just AI could draw assets from photos

[fierce nexus]

Somehow VOIP is always one of those areas haha

[wind shore]

just little bit polyshing

[gentle lintel]

https://tenor.com/view/confused-confused-look-confused-face-funny-funny-look-gif-4850532509577233362

someone translate pls

[worthy charm]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/413884910181285889/1351572826934607945/image.png?ex=67daddc8&is=67d98c48&hm=1754b339bed598fc24d7c4a2ee9d1ecd359ff1ab92431c4e8335be0cc166c422&

Take it or leave it.

[gentle lintel]

i've told you, je ne sais pas

[empty steppe]

Ewwwww Draco’s 🤮🤢

[past vortex]

its for the better

[gentle lintel]

I couldn't agree more

[worthy charm]

German is a stupid language anyway.

[stray solstice]

agreed

[pine ember]

No

[stray solstice]

When I hear German = they're a nazi

[worthy charm]

That might be a little bit to far...

[pine ember]

Ok weeb

[stray solstice]

I'm not but ok

[cyan saddle]

As a Dutch person I'm allowed to say German is worse than Dutch but everything beyond that is dangerous territory

[stray solstice]

Dutch sounds like wannabe german lmao

[cyan saddle]

Improved German*

[pine ember]

It was a joke, and it would be better for you now if your statement was one too

German can truly be beautiful

[cyan saddle]

Schmetterling

[stray solstice]

yeah when addressing the fuhrer

[cyan saddle]

Krankenwagen

[pine ember]

If I scream the word "BUTTERFLY" it would sound aggressive too

[pine ember]

Atleast use the Umlaut...

Its "Führer"

[stray solstice]

Why would I? ugly language, better to butcher it than speak it properly

[cyan saddle]

It's not that bad

It just sounds funny at times 😄

[pine ember]

Because I said you to do so, as a native speaker

[cyan saddle]

Plus, the objectively bestest language wouldn't have existed without German

[stray solstice]

womp womp

sorry mein herr

[pine ember]

14 or 15, how old are you?

[stray solstice]

24

[cyan saddle]

What's your prefered language

👀

[stray solstice]

Japanese

[pine ember]

Then act like a 24 year old

[worthy charm]

You know there is a diffrence between a german calling his language stupid and some random talking down one something he doesnt even know how to use properly...

[pine ember]

Oh god

[pine ember]

Thats it

[stray solstice]

lol some random dolt online telling me how I should act? why would I care what you have to say

[gentle lintel]

easssssy everyone, c'mon

[worthy charm]

Only said it as a joke anyway, because of drew...

[cyan saddle]

beat me to it smh

Anyway, yall have more important things to argue about soon

[gentle lintel]

started so innocently

[worthy charm]

Im forced to play lol now anyway😅

didnt want to go that deep sry

[stray solstice]

I lived in Germany for 4 months, I can comfortably say german sounds horrible and ugly

[pine ember]

I dont care either, I just dont like it if someone comes around with opinions they dont really know about

[gentle lintel]

is this the pineapple on pizza

[pine ember]

And I lived in Japan and hated the language too, sounded childish

[cyan saddle]

I wish

[stray solstice]

You hate the language, congrats lol I really don't care

[worthy charm]

Did you say roadmap?!?!

[pine ember]

So do I

[cyan saddle]

@pine ember @worthy charm let me ask yall more directly again to drop this discussion because this is going nowhere

[pine ember]

German haters are cringe

[cyan saddle]

Sorry not Willes

@stray solstice

uh oh

[pine ember]

Then she should stop dropping empty phrases

[stray solstice]

I was replying to him btw

[worthy charm]

POG

[stray solstice]

Not you

[fluid pawn]

#telegrams message
And we're live

[worthy charm]

THE ROADMAP!!!!

[fluid pawn]

Roadmap + Q&A this week!

https://discord.com/channels/316459644476456962/1351381606392135751
^ ask your questions here!

[digital marsh]

sick

[hardy oasis]

Whooo!

[cyan saddle]

Whoooooo!

[pine ember]

Stop it

[thorny acorn]

YAAA MEDIC UPGRADE

[chrome furnace]

Man oh man oh man

[stray solstice]

Instead of new vehicles, can it it say vehicle rework and system overhaul?

[empty steppe]

YESSSSSS

[pine ember]

ANYWAYS NEW EASTERN FRONT MAP!!!!!!

[empty steppe]

STALINGRAD REFRESH

[pine ember]

WE DID IT

[cyan saddle]

@ MrKedo OMG LOOK

[vocal minnow]

Is it confirmed when Tobruk is coming?

[cyan saddle]

sometime in April

[pine ember]

April

[empty steppe]

WE MIGHT GET THE RED SQUARE

[graceful talon]

Another year of crying for pacific theater

[vocal minnow]

Ok thanks 🙏🏻

[silk igloo]

Armor, artillery, bipod rework? And flamethrower? surely they jest

[stray solstice]

pacific won't work in HLL, if you want it so badly play Squad 44

[graceful talon]

It would work, and I do!

[humble moat]

Excited for the new updates coming, have loved the game since getting it

[valid talon]

Wow that roadmap is weak

[vernal wadi]

alhamdulillah, medic, recon and bipod rework all in one package. In the holiest month too surely we are blessed 🤲

[dapper sparrow]

"Live Q & A" but submit your questions 2 days before? What is that?!

[frank axle]

what map do you think?

[jaunty sleet]

So when the game originally came out they hinted they were going to put Canada/Poland into the game. Is that still a thing?

[urban marsh]

Gobbless tyvm for the update

[stray solstice]

why this bro gotta bring up some muslim bs

[valid talon]

So outside of Tobruk which we are getting next month we’re only expecting one more map all year

[copper zodiac]

Very interested to see what changes with armor. But we desperately need a better system for parties

[gentle lintel]

excellent question to ask the devs in #1351381606392135751 🙂

[vernal wadi]

I think staying on the path of fixing what is already in the game before introducing new stuff is a lot better

[graceful talon]

Damn you hateful as hell

[smoky hemlock]

GIVE ME OKINAWA AND MY LIFE IS YOURS

[fluid pawn]

We are going to be live streaming the Q&A. However to take questiosn live will be a nightmare so are getting the questiosn in advance 🙂

[vernal wadi]

username unrelated

[past veldt]

Ben, remember to drop an @ here in about 30 minutes advertising the artwork competition

[dapper sparrow]

Then it's only a live answering of screened questions. There is a difference ...

[silk igloo]

the pic on the Rework bit is from 2019 or earlier, that's funny

[placid axle]

what does armor system rework means? can we expect something more complex?

[cedar ore]

IS THIS PEAK?

[pine ember]

Dude...

[urban marsh]

I don’t even care so much about new maps and content as I do QoL updates, there’s already lots of content.

[stray solstice]

And where is Tobruk? April is nearly here

[smoky hemlock]

But err how are y’all gonna buff the medics

Y’all giving us more supplies?

[quaint shadow]

Roadmap is Tobruk and an undisclosed eastern front map. So basically two maps a year is what we can expect from this team

[hazy talon]

Please make Stalingrad Snowy

[fluid pawn]

I will be hosting, so additional questions from chat could well be featured 🙂

[pine ember]

Noooooooo

Please leave the map where it is

[ashen falcon]

TWO MAPS IN 12 MONTHS?

[cedar ore]

new vehicles though

[stray solstice]

New tank system overhaul please?

[vernal wadi]

Give my boy a primary for the best subclass and my life is yours

[winged star]

new vehicles, classified, when, we don't know, something something improvement, we don't know, when, we don't know when

[placid axle]

where can we send questions

[quaint shadow]

Undisclosed, could be anything. Could be nothing

[humble moat]

I agree. I think there are actually a good variety of maps, and my problem is moreso that I don't get to play some of them enough compared to others. Adding tons more maps isn't as important as making the game play better

[cedar ore]

but, new vehicles

[ashen falcon]

It's a shame two maps in 12 months

[fluid pawn]

https://discord.com/channels/316459644476456962/1351381606392135751 - QUESTIONS HERE

[stray solstice]

New vehicles < tank system overhaul

[quaint shadow]

Watch it be a jeep with a .50 cal and that’s it

[smoky hemlock]

GIVE ME EXTRA MEDIC SUPPLIES FOR MY PISTOL AND M1 carbine and my life is yours!!!

[dapper sparrow]

That **could **definitely make it more interesting.

[gentle lintel]

why is ben yelling at us

[cedar ore]

there could easily be more, that ISNT the roadmap btw lol

[graceful talon]

Wish we could see more in the tanks. I hate being limited to a circle as a gunner

[smoky hemlock]

Not like I be using my guns anyway I’m Desmond doss

[silk igloo]

the kickstarter did feature flamethrower tank, so maybe it's that one 👀

[vernal wadi]

With worthwhile quality of life work to existing issues and mechanics being done, sacrificing map output is in my opinion a good investment

[urban marsh]

It’s read-only?

[cedar ore]

it is impossible to please these people 😭

[smoky hemlock]

But I hope a question about pacific front will be asked

[night lark]

Seeing that "more admin controls" and hoping it is settings like limited lives, manual point selections, and limited team nunbers

[humble moat]

I actually think a really cool new vehicle idea is an armored personnel carrier, since trucks are so easily taken out and an APC would allow for a unique way to move players into battle

[smoky hemlock]

I don’t want to buy squad 44 just for that pacific map

[vernal wadi]

They already exist, they just get 1-shotted

[ashen falcon]

We've been in this "fix the game" thing for a year or more

[vernal wadi]

These things, they take time

[quaint shadow]

4-5 years of snail pace and the community is understandably frustrated. Roadmap every year gets thinner and thinner and content constantly gets cut from it

[humble moat]

I mean I guess kind of, are you talking about like the Puma? I feel like we could do more of a heaver APC that doesn't get one shot by rockets

[cedar ore]

tbf it’s actually a really fun game, I wouldn’t exactly call it the hell let loose killer, more just another WW2 game I’ll happily play lol

[split bay]

When is the content dropping

[covert elbow]

Getting a pacific request in the roadmap QA that is amazing lmao

[night lark]

Also new maps and a stalingrad rework will.be cool. Some new cosmetic dlc for the brits would defo be worth buying imo

[cedar ore]

Holy yap, at least I still enjoy the game

[vernal wadi]

No you can literally spawn in a tracked armored personnel carrier that acts as a mobile garrison

[lucid tusk]

2 maps in 12 months 😬, I'm gonna assume that "powerful new vehicles" refers to the king tiger and pershing

[midnight nacelle]

You must apply a tag? #1351381606392135751

[humble moat]

I didn't really consider that, I guess mostly bc it does in fact always get used just as a garrison, and never to move people

[vernal wadi]

Inb4 calliope

[smoky hemlock]

Nonono the Germans get the Maus and the Americans get the T95

[humble moat]

Would be cool to have tank destroyers

[vernal wadi]

Hellcat my beloved

[humble moat]

Like a stug or something and maybe a priest

[night lark]

New vehicle - bren carrier.

[vernal wadi]

Marder

[ember quail]

What is RCON V2 please??

[cedar ore]

I would LOVE to see new tanks

[past veldt]

T17 delivered on 100% of their 2024 roadmap, so no idea why you think content gets cut from them?

[narrow river]

I did not expect to see any gameplay reworks so this is a pleasant suprise. Let's hope they are larger than the space they take up on the roadmap.

[past veldt]

RCON is the protocol for admin controls

[smoky hemlock]

Give the British the archer

[ember quail]

Alr thanks

[pine ember]

NO PACIFIC IN HLL!!!

[ember quail]

Also bipod and medic rework is dopeee

[analog apex]

Just saw the roadmap... well... Damn me 😂

[smoky hemlock]

Ban this guy

[vernal wadi]

The more things change, the more they stay the same

[ember quail]

We got eastern front

[urban marsh]

I’m on mobile, I don’t see the forum-style UI for some reason. I’ll check on PC.

[gentle lintel]

on it

[humble moat]

Having the pacific without planes and boats would be unfortunate

[smoky hemlock]

Commanders can always call it in

[humble moat]

Yes but I mean playable

[vernal wadi]

Wanting planes and boats in the game unfortunately takes away from the main idea of the game

[humble moat]

I agree

[smoky hemlock]

Plus if HLL ever gets planes the game would be unplayable

[vernal wadi]

Ruins the core gameplay loop imo

[humble moat]

That's why I think pacific isn't necessary

[vernal wadi]

Tanks are already very oppressive in most pub games, I imagine planes would be even worse

[humble moat]

It would kind of just be like playing on hill 400 or the forest map but very green

[smoky hemlock]

20mm cannon touching you from any distance kills you

[humble moat]

Don't remind me...

[gloomy quartz]

Good roadmap

[humble moat]

I swear some blueberries have never heard of AT

[proper dock]

Damn the road map Looks decent ig

[cedar ore]

Fun

[vernal wadi]

Unless funny meme vehicles like the wirblewind would be added - but we all know they would be used as infantry blenders over anti air lmao

[smoky hemlock]

Me in my B-17 on my way to drop a 5000kg bomb on the point

[proper dock]

Although im Not a big eastern Front guy but atleast im excited for tobruk

[atomic pendant]

https://tenor.com/view/ooh-this-gon'-be-a-mess-roxxxy-andrews-rupaul's-drag-race-all-stars-this-is-gonna-get-ugly-rupaul's-drag-race-gif-7582403677231867045

[vernal wadi]

Can already imagine Kursk with an wirleyboy sitting at the windmills

The horror

[humble moat]

I wonder how a jungle map would actually play bc I already despise maps with extreme levels of foliage (mortain)

[cedar ore]

I like the look of this roadmap, it’s not overly ambitious, it’s obviously got a lot we will find out more about soon, I’m quite excited

[pine ember]

I dont care

[proper dock]

We will prob never find out

[vernal wadi]

If you’ve ever played Rising Storm 2 you’d get the idea

[pallid temple]

Omg are we actually getting them to fix the bipods?!? Is this real life?

[cedar ore]

Hopefully a good mess 🙏🙏

[faint portal]

https://tenor.com/view/side-eye-side-eye-meme-tiktok-the-pointer-brothers-gif-13730785519279791710

[humble moat]

Average mortain experience is legitimately miserable

[pine ember]

Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhh

[proper dock]

Same

[analog apex]

If the **reworks **will not be just of cosmetic nature but rly deeper reworks, I would say great direction to go, good start. But after the previous experiences with the Team17 HLL dev promises, I won't believe until I see it.

[humble moat]

Unfortunately have not

[proper dock]

New vehicles is also Great

[vernal wadi]

Really good game, a lot faster paced than HLL but I recommend grabbing it on sale

[proper dock]

Hopefully super heavys😜😜

[humble moat]

If I went the rest of my life without ever playing Mortain again, I'd be a very happy man

[cedar ore]

The team did have a wobbly start, but it looks like they’re getting better now, gotta trust the process

[vernal wadi]

You can still find full servers every day

[ember quail]

Omg there's gonna be like 200 forums abt Pacific by tomorrow

[humble moat]

I have no PC 🫠

[thin scarab]

Good Roadmap👍🏻

[vernal wadi]

Oh

[real parrot]

I'll believe the roadmap when I see it

[analog apex]

cmon, we have already had nice-looking texts from T17 before, but no actions to back them up. So, I wouldn't say that until we see the actual results first.

[boreal mulch]

Good Road Map

[humble moat]

From my POV as a console player, HLL is such a blessing bc it's hard to find any other good serious shooters

[real parrot]

I bet they abandon the game before reaching those goals

[humble moat]

So I am very grateful and happy with HLL

[proper dock]

Yeah same

[faint portal]

https://tenor.com/view/tank-panzer-army-spiritus-gif-22314269

[proper dock]

It’s def the best ww2 Game

[humble moat]

Without a doubt

[cursive whale]

Anybody got some speculations as to what vehicles they might add? I'm hoping for some tank destroyers

[proper dock]

Would Go so hard in hll

[midnight nacelle]

It should be available.

[humble moat]

I always just played Battlefield until I got the Xbox Series X, so now that I've played HLL I can't go back to anything else

[cedar ore]

I guess we will see

[real parrot]

Honestly I think Sq44 is better, sadly is ded

[wind shore]

how to get more fps in hll ?

[humble moat]

I already have hundreds of hours and its only been a few months

[night lark]

It would be cool to have a garrison halftrack and a non garrison halftrack. And only make it a one hit kill.if you hit the fuel tank. Always weird to me how you could hit the passengar compartment and get a kill on it

[proper dock]

Same maybe bf1 but bf5 No way in hell

[humble moat]

Yeah I agree

[humble moat]

Bf1 my beloved

[cedar ore]

Turn graphics down ig

[humble moat]

I put thousands of hours on bf1

[proper dock]

Bf1 is Great bf5 is way to arcady

[wind shore]

i turn it , but when i scop with sniper or anything i get low fps

[boreal mulch]

I will get the additional content so the Devs can eat.

[real parrot]

You actually don't 1 hit the halftrack with inf rocket in the passenger comp

[night lark]

Turn settings down and if you have an nvidia graphics cards there are settings you can fiddle with as well

[dapper cave]

Oh my god, the medic rework is real. Praying they give us methamphetamines 🙏

[night lark]

Wait really? I thought you did?

[faint portal]

Dragging confirmed!? 👀

[cursive whale]

New medic role: the drug dealer

[wind shore]

i have rx 550 , amd

[real parrot]

I'm 90% sure you don't, same with trucks

[night lark]

I know a guy

[gentle lintel]

medics get flamethrowers (im kidding)

[thin lotus]

So this isn’t a 2025 roadmap. They didn’t even give a timeframe

[night lark]

Feel like i need to test it

[ember quail]

Did they use cocaine in ww2??

[covert elbow]

Still wondering that that means because a medic rework isn’t going to do anything unless we also get a gameplay overhaul to actually allow medics to exist in the first place

[proper dock]

Im excited for what they have to offer Honestly

[covert elbow]

That’s funny ngl

[night lark]

Cauterising the wounds with flames

[gusty lichen]

we're so back

[thin lotus]

Once again, shows a lack of confidence

[ember quail]

It's the roadmap for the roadmap

[proper dock]

Who knows a guy that knows

[hardy oasis]

Looking forward to the flamethrower upgrades 🔥 🔥

[gusty lichen]

all i need is eastern front content

[proper dock]

I still need to unlock

[dapper cave]

Need it so bad, I NEED to shoot up myself and all my homies with the strongest methamphetamines the government can provide, and then rush at mach speed to die on point.

[faint portal]

Flamethrower on tonk when

[proper dock]

You like the eastern Front ?

[ember quail]

Really hope they include some sort of engine upgrade to atleast support dlss or fsr

[cursive whale]

SU-152 my beloved, where art thou?

[night lark]

British crocodile tank when?

[cyan garnet]

berlin it’s gotta be

[gusty lichen]

kursk and stalingrad are mega fun

[proper dock]

Ain’t eastern Front and too Hard prob

[faint portal]

https://tenor.com/view/flamethrower-battlefield-5-pacific-war-iwo-jima-flame-tank-gif-7786071619607054880

[real parrot]

They used a lot of drugs actually, most of the soldiers where either drugged or drunk all the time

[covert elbow]

Ngl that “new cosmetic” sas looking guy looks like niennub from Star Wars

[proper dock]

Ur Right I Like Kursk and stalin is okay personally

[ember quail]

The Russian were drunk ofc

[noble plume]

https://tenor.com/view/tanks-tanki-tankionline-revenge-karma-gif-13447604

[cyan garnet]

how is it not eastern
front 😭

[real parrot]

Thats why the war created so much adicts

[night lark]

I hope one of the new vics is the sherman with an anti mine rotating flail on the front. If you dont know google it but man its be real.fun to chase people with it

[covert elbow]

Don’t post that Raz they’ll start asking for the pacific- oh wait it’s already happened and is the biggest post right now dispite it not being related to the roadmap

[real parrot]

Diabolically fun

[proper dock]

Because the eastern Front was soviet Territory mainly and I would say Germany is in the middle cause the fronts were going off of Germany

[cursive whale]

Feinin' for some nodes or a garrison rn

[gusty lichen]

only thing we are missing is pps43

[cyan garnet]

no one ever talks about a middle front my guy💀

[real parrot]

Also many tanks, I want to drive a KV-2

[proper dock]

It’s the first time I’ve just seen it to be fair I love all soviet Weapons in Game almost

[gusty lichen]

truueeee

[proper dock]

Never Said it that way but the fronts were going Off Germany to the Left was the Western and to the Right eastern

[night lark]

Genuinly though im so happy that HLL has got a roadmap. My clan is also seeing a resurgence in folks playing HLL.

[gusty lichen]

best alternative to bf

[ember quail]

Snow version of el Alamein when

[proper dock]

@cyan garnet just googled it it Said heimatfront which means Homefront

[cyan garnet]

huh the more you know

[bronze hound]

there's so much to look forward to!

[proper dock]

Yeah I didn’t know it neither tbh

[real parrot]

I just created a small clan and we are growing steadily, if they deliver as promised I think I would actually like the game

[spiral current]

that's a pretty sizzling hot roadmap, tbh

[cyan garnet]

we will have a stug i hope

[proper dock]

Why are the british dlc Outfits so damn drippy

[gentle lintel]

fashion baby

[proper dock]

Yeah Honestly add tank destroyers

[real parrot]

Only good thing they had

Also for the love of God nerf the PIAT

[tulip perch]

I do hope they rework the armor system BEFORE they add new vehicles. And I also hope try 'Artillary rework' means ditching arty, making it a commander avsility and replacing them entirely with Mortar crews

[cyan garnet]

bros from frown town

i like the content so far

[proper dock]

Don’t forget firefly🙂‍↕️ irl

[fluid pawn]

👀

[cyan garnet]

better than bm any day

[fluid pawn]

👀

[real parrot]

Firefly in game is a literal brick

[dusty bolt]

[thin scarab]

Medic rework so we finally getting Comp Medics? 👀

[spiral current]

doesn't need to be ditched, it just needs to be a buildable, destroyable thing so it's not immediately a problem and an unsolveable burden.

[cosmic pilot]

🤢

[proper dock]

Is it ingame?

[cosmic pilot]

Don't make me gag

[covert elbow]

Yea Ben haha absolute great idea to actually have the devs talk about some of the stuff on the roadmap. Super excited to have a chat with them about it. Thank you so much!

[real parrot]

Driel only, its dogsht

[dusty bolt]

Pause

[covert elbow]

The what now

[fluid pawn]

When you guys were asking about this, I already had this one planned ahaha

[ember quail]

Most probably an ability to drag people out of danger or prob loadout improvements?

[covert elbow]

Lmao well I’m still happy for it

[real parrot]

Would be cool

[thin scarab]

Would help allot Yeah

[proper dock]

Hm alright

[cosmic pilot]

Unless they change how redeploying functions, comp will only use the cheesiest option 🧀

[real parrot]

I like cheese

[covert elbow]

Dragging still going to be the biggest time waster anyways. No point in it when reviving takes less than a second.

Dragging would be cool on normal infantry though if they could revive albeit at a slower pace

[proper dock]

Honestly am I the only one that feels like its sad el alamein isnt often in Servers cause the map is something different

[fluid pawn]

The first Ben-hosted livestream. It's going to be fun

[thin scarab]

They should set redeploy to 40 or 60 sec

[covert elbow]

Oh heck yea! Hope you got a good radio voice

[cosmic pilot]

🤢

[cursive whale]

I just know I'm getting abducted and not getting revived out of harms way for a fact 🤣

[covert elbow]

If you need a co-host let me know

[daring frost]

The flamehtrower is finally getting some love

[indigo summit]

What have they changed or given to the medic?

[spiral current]

we know nothing!

[indigo summit]

😦

[cursive whale]

Yet.

[left hollow]

Hopefully we get the battle of berlin

[real parrot]

Tiger 2 in Berlin defending the Reichstag against a IS 2 🔥

[fluid pawn]

It's just british lol

[covert elbow]

Ah but you gotta get the 40’s radio broadcast voice

I need my immersion Ben

[weak cypress]

When Japan

[potent burrow]

Hopefully the medic rework just makes them more viable, combining the morphine + bandage animation into one fluid animation and make it a bit quicker would be best imo

Biggest issues with medic is
1 - people leaving after you get them up since another step to bandage is clunky and unnecessary
2 - people just letting themselves die because of reason 1 and the likelihood of the medics taking too long or getting killed immediately after getting them up

[gentle lintel]

That’s all we need Ben

[proper dock]

The Problem with medic is there is Not enough at all and not enough people with patience

[twilit citrus]

before adding more DLC cosmetics would you mind fleshing out the British forces first who have like no basic uniforms and helmets to pick from?

[potent burrow]

Because the medic system is clunky and too slow

[twilit citrus]

it's still completely barebone

[potent burrow]

Having to have two steps to heal and get someone up is unnecessary clutter, make getting up and healing the person one simple fluid animation and you remove that issue

[fluid pawn]

https://tenor.com/view/opa-the-simpsons-simpsons-het-denken-nadenkend-gif-10187058

[faint portal]

Loool

[cursive whale]

Feel like you gotta include some scrim helmets at the very least

[ember quail]

Would be nice if they included admins for official HLL servers since without moderation those servers are just filled with cheaters and griefers

[proper dock]

Yeah

[proper dock]

Also how do you unlock all the cosmerics that Arent Paid

[covert elbow]

Its funny how quickly it happened lmao

[faint portal]

Bound to happen hahaha

[worthy charm]

The pacific post gonna dominate for no reason at all.

Universal law of the HLL community

[covert elbow]

True

[twilit citrus]

I hope the rework of Stalingrad is mostly going to be performance improvements
and not like the rework of Alamein where the map was just made ugly with random stuff cluttered completely out of place, making it not look like a real place anymore, with more performance issues

when it comes to maps all the last maps added to the game lead to worse gameplay than the classic maps
and all for the exact same reason: too many bushes one can sit in (instead of mostly being solid)
Driel, Mortain and Elsenborn suffer from this

[ember quail]

Dasaltberg deff knew roadmap was dropping today 😁

[gentle lintel]

Can’t believe he’d keep this from us

[spiral current]

If the medic can be reworked such that it's more of a logistics viable role (which is what it is in real life), then that's a massive win for the game. Screw it, put a hospital truck in the game that drives around picking up downed players, if the enemy blows it up they grant an instant airstrike to the opponent to simulate rettribution from high command for the warcrime xD

[potent burrow]

I don't understand why people want the pacific for hll so bad, nearly every other game has the pacific... it would be nice to have one game that only specializes in Europe and Africa, so the gunplay, tanks, gameplay, ect can be really well refined and not cluttered cough enlisted cough

[covert elbow]

The first part of your post is already Stalingrad so they can’t do much worse.

Also they play worse because the BM devs went with a “true to life” philosophy matching the area with the IRL geography and photos from the era, thus leaving gameplay balance out to die. Hopefully this refresh solves it

[faint portal]

Impossible

[covert elbow]

Pacific would absolutely just kill the game unless the devs plan on keeping the game alive for the next 10 years.

Not to mention the games current system would make a pacific theater absolute dog water

[worthy charm]

People imagine it to be cool, which it might on the first thought.

[covert elbow]

Yea they think of battlefield V and nothing else

Lunge mine being the biggest tell tale

[ember quail]

Yea know the timing of his community post on utube is kinda sus

[potent burrow]

Well i meant reasonable people, not war thunder or cod fans that enjoy pain / slop

[twilit citrus]

What plays worse? Elsenborn and Mortain weren't made by BM, but by Team17. And they play worse because of what I said: too many accessible bushes. Not because of the layout.

You probably mean Alamein but the rework of it didn't make it any better. It just also looks really ugly now.

[faint portal]

Agreed, @oak current posting a video within a minute of the drop is very sus

[covert elbow]

What? The content creators in a special chat with the devs who probably let them know to drum up more engagement for the roadmap? Impossible

[lucid tusk]

Shame all pacificposters

[oak current]

No video has been posted nor any community post 👀

[covert elbow]

No I just completely misread your post lmao

[faint portal]

Wait why not lolol u still working on it?

[covert elbow]

Ah you can’t say that anymore the mods will just delete your posts

[ember quail]

The fanmade trailer post lmao??

[covert elbow]

Suprised they didn’t hand out bans, mutes, and warning as well on that post

Pacific isn’t even anywhere related to the roadmap anyways

[oak current]

...the PTE fan trailer that was posted yesterday? 😄

[ember quail]

Oh
Its yesterday for you 😅
Got jt

[worthy charm]

Can thee be summoned so easily?

[oak current]

dark magic

brb, gotta finish roadmap vid

[covert elbow]

Gl

Maybe this is my chance to become a big shot HLL-tuber. Maybe I should release a roadmap video

[lucid tusk]

A 45 second video as your first might not take off

[covert elbow]

Lmao. I mean it’ll definitely take a lot of speculation but what ev’s

[old yarrow]

BIPOD REWORK LETS GOOOOO

[covert elbow]

I do wish we got a video accompanying this release to actually explain the roadmap cause this is pretty vague

Like that

[faint portal]

I just at him until he spawns

[midnight nacelle]

https://tenor.com/view/betelgeuse-beetlejuice-dance-gif-12554100

[faint portal]

Usually gatta wait for redeploy

[covert elbow]

Who needs garrisons when you just say peoples names 3 times?

[worthy charm]

I shall ingrave this ancient knowledge into my brain forever.

[lucid tusk]

I'm assuming we'll get more details with the Q&A

[clear junco]

Thank you!

[covert elbow]

Absolutely but I’d still like to have had to so we could have discussed the roadmap rather than asking what’s the roadmap

[worthy charm]

I hope so, its rather vague rn.

[covert elbow]

Cause as I said it’s pretty vague

[faint portal]

https://tenor.com/view/chisel-flintstones-fred-carve-gif-18036570

[lucid tusk]

Q&A is this Friday, right?

[worthy charm]

I was faster for once. gg ez
Achieved my life goal and can die happy now.

[thin lotus]

Somebody ask what year this roadmap is for

[worthy charm]

2042

[clear junco]

https://tenor.com/view/betelgeuse-beetlejuice-dance-gif-12554100

[covert elbow]

Bazinga

[spiral current]

does anyone know what "RCON V2" means in the context of feature upgrades on the roadmap?

[faint portal]

https://tenor.com/view/no-gif-perms-rimuru-tensura-gif-5581238660272466836

[cyan saddle]

More reliable tools for server admins essentially

[faint portal]

I've obtained a terrible power

[heavy citrus]

The roadmap looks good! not too much content.. but i guess it's fine since they had layoffs.

[covert elbow]

Also it’s funny how most of the roadmap Q/A questions aren’t even roadmap releated. Whoever picks the questions is going to have a tough time

[faint portal]

Rip ben

[lucid tusk]

I love to think they won't be heavily curated but we all know deep down

[covert elbow]

Yea lmao

[fallen yoke]

@fluid pawn will the Q&A be streamed on T17 Twitch channel or another platform?

[covert elbow]

With the amount of suggestions I’d be suprised if it wasn’t

[lucid tusk]

The unfortunate reality is that all the valid questions will be drowned out by "wHeRe pAcIfIc?!?!1" posts

[faint portal]

Oof I flew too close to the sun and got my message blocked

[strange mantle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1208841623354613891/1287845323082829965/4x27-ezgif.com-webp-to-gif-converter.gif

[faint portal]

Should be twitch

[covert elbow]

No actually. Another guy posted a “where pacific” post and it immediately got taken down so the mods are actively watching and pruning

[worthy charm]

It was fun with him as long as it lasted.😢

[lucid tusk]

It would honestly make my day if Ben straight up said in the livestream "it's not happening"

[covert elbow]

He will be remembered

[covert elbow]

Agreed lmao

[fallen yoke]

that's what i'm assuming

[covert elbow]

“Mwista bwen when do wee gwet pabibic?”

”no”

[lucid tusk]

Buddy we could open up a chip truck and make fries and save so much money on salt from just mining it from here

[gentle lintel]

passive income

[covert elbow]

Truuuuuuue

[covert elbow]

*pacific income

[lucid tusk]

Oh hey Drew, what are your completely unbiased moderator thoughts on all this?

[covert elbow]

”yes”

Y’know I will say it is nice that everyone who wants to talk about the pacific is locked to that QA thread lmao

But anyways I think I’ll start my roadmap analysis and start forming my QA post. Ciao y’all

[hazy stratus]

its not a roadmap if there are no dates or timeline wtf is this

[spiral junco]

One can only hope the flamethrower actually becomes usable

[thin lotus]

Yep. Pretty tricky of the devs.

[lucid tusk]

Even if it's rough guesstimates there should still be a timeline

[covert elbow]

Tbh I’m fine with a more guesstimate but yea not having an actual stated time where they hope to be finished is weird

[thin lotus]

Looks like it’s an excuse to drip feed no matter how long

[cyan saddle]

I'm sure it'll be mentioned in the QnA

[jade lantern]

Road map looks amazing

[gentle lintel]

stop it im salivating

[covert elbow]

Why are you bad reacting the man lmao

[mellow knoll]

Majorly impressed with this road map! Finally an armor rework is listed, more vehicles and a new Eastern map! Hell yeah!

[dusty bolt]

Where is my beloved @fluid pawn

[mellow knoll]

Plus audio overhaul, thank god

[worthy charm]

To be fair the roadmap seems plausible.

[dusty bolt]

If admin cam update doesn’t have first person view I will cry

[worthy charm]

Its not like impossible stuff, they could never do.

[spiral current]

medic and arty rework are the two for me. Others will want bipods. But there's some long time bangers they are looking to tackle, for sure!

[thin lotus]

Only the “artillery systems” ‘rework’ is the most impactful, but that still depends on how much they mean to change it. By and large, this roadmap is a cosmetic one otherwise for 99% of players

[dusty bolt]

Arty rework: remove it

[dapper sparrow]

based on previous performance, I'm not sure this is the case ...

[covert elbow]

They never said that. Just that “it’s a feature upgrade”

[dusty bolt]

Give us mortars like the kickstarter said we would get

[covert elbow]

So could be an overhaul but who knows

[dusty bolt]

You know. Like 5 years ago

[spiral current]

you can start with that and that would legit improve the game, then work it in better so it isn't so cheap. (many meanings of 'cheap' apply)

[covert elbow]

Hopefully that’s the artillery rework. If it isn’t a mortar addition and moving artillery to a commander ability I’ll be disappointed

[worthy charm]

Its better than the 2024 roadmap and far more realistic than the amount of stuff on the 2023 roadmap (the first one with finnish, polish, etc)

[gusty lichen]

once you play enough mainstream slop, you stop caring about how BM handles their live service. There's no competition on console like on PC

[lucid tusk]

Remove spawn arty and red zone garries a

[dusty bolt]

Put overtime on warfare games

[finite berry]

(It's not better, just very different) (And not dead)

Anyway, my two cents as a non-player. If I got something wrong, please correct me.

Very late road map, but better late than never.

1. New Map Tobruk: already known ✅
2. New Map Eastern Front: one of the more surprising things on the road map, but in a positive way. 👍
3. Stalingrad Refresh: don't know anything about that map, is that refresh necessary? If yes, in regards to gameplay, balance, performance, bugs?
4. New Vehicles: nice enough, but this highly depends on whether their armour rework is gonna be successful.
5. New Thematic Cosmetics: desert uniforms, I guess; nice enough
6. Feature Upgrades: yada yada yada, although the changes to the XP reward system should be interesting, I guess.
7. Gameplay Reworks: the two most interesting things here are the promised medic and the armour rework imo; genuinely curious how they'll try to make this class more impactful and tank warfare more balanced, authentic and realistic.
8. QoL Improvements: yada yada yada, basic stuff

Additional thoughts. Like some other folks here have already pointed out, there is no timeframe at all. Naturally, you can't give precise dates, but some approximate estimates should've been there. Can only hope they tell more about that in the QnA.

Thanks for reading this wall of text, happy to hear some thoughts about my thoughts.

[dapper sparrow]

might be, but just because there is less on it, doesn't make it more realistic - just ... less.

[midnight nacelle]

Just going to plug the #1347220000464965733 during this hype!
We love the detailed art, but anything that fits Discord is also fine! i.e Reaction Icons, Memes, Yokes.

[echo karma]

Greg put that note at the bottom huh? He did that for June one last year too

[dapper sparrow]

Is Greg still around?!

[echo karma]

It takes yall 4-6 months to do an update so this a 2 yr roadmap?

[worthy charm]

Yes, but not as the managing CM anymore

We got an upgrade😎

[mellow knoll]

Thematic Cosmetics could mean literally anything. Not just desert uniforms.

[finite berry]

Was my assumption due to the image in the background

[echo karma]

When they patch the pak40 in stalinlag building everyone rages

[dapper sparrow]

Wait?! They have so many community managers, that they need a managing community manager?!!

[worthy charm]

Greg is senior CM of T17 and Ben is CM of HLL

No clue how their structure is...

[dapper sparrow]

It's spelled "irony" ...

[echo karma]

Tank destroyers that 1 shot heavies plz. Give me stug!

[worthy charm]

Whats that?

[finite berry]

The StuG or irony? 😄

[echo karma]

Stug would be funny tho. Evaporate a point

[ember quail]

You know what would be cool
60v60 matches👀
Make it happen devs

[gusty lichen]

hot take: the amount of content they add for the price that they charge is quite reasonable. Sure more would be nice, but have fun trying to convince the execs that they need to grow the team

[broken shoal]

unreal engine 4 would go up in flames

[echo karma]

Well see on Friday when reddit roasts them on the ama

[lucid tusk]

Having redditors try to roast you is a badge of honor

[gusty lichen]

you could give a redditor a million in gold and he'd still find a reason to whine

[echo karma]

Would be cool to have destruction

[gusty lichen]

not happening, not needed

[echo karma]

Probaly a pipe dream but would be cool

[gusty lichen]

it's barely stable now, it wasn't stable for a long time.

[echo karma]

Or Para trooping. Or more objective mode for certain maps. Instead of cap this obj

[potent wasp]

why is the mp40 so inaccurate

[gusty lichen]

no more modes are needed, they shouldn't have even added skirmish

[echo karma]

They flopped skirmish. Could have been more. To generic

[long relic]

Where riflegrenadr

[echo karma]

For instance, s44 Utah is place Bangalore on barbed wire to get off beach. It's hell.

[robust flint]

I thought they did a great job with Skirmish. its perfect to help the seeders

[lucid tusk]

Skirmish when seeding a server is fine, not for full servers though

[gusty lichen]

dev team isn't large enough to fulfill random ideas. If it's not part of the core experience it's a waste of time and money

i will accept skirmish for seeding, fair argument

[echo karma]

We know. But at least they full fill the og roadmap.

[lucid tusk]

Having objectives for offensive other than "who can have more bodies in the circle longer" would be a great and welcome change

[echo karma]

Flame thrower just trash imo. It should 1 shot and be at least 15m long. It's napalm bro

[robust flint]

i thought it were only tanks that used napalm?

[wheat remnant]

Italians in Tobruk?

[echo karma]

No. US had napalm troops. They trained specifically for that

[gusty lichen]

speaking of Offensive, is there a single 24/7 Offensive server for console in the US

[robust flint]

my goodness. live and learn. ty

[grand jungle]

What do you guys think of the Roadmap?

[proper dock]

Nah

[wheat remnant]

Why not they would be cool

[gusty lichen]

fine

[wheat remnant]

We'd get the mab 38 for one

[proper dock]

They Should Flesh Out The factions more

[gusty lichen]

mab 38 would be stupid op lol

[wheat remnant]

I guess

[potent wasp]

legend has it, nailguns do more damage then mp40s in this game

[echo karma]

Stug would be cool. American tank destroyers or pull behind paks. Build able gun emplacement etc

[lucid tusk]

Not as barren as I thought, but very vague, looking forward to clarification

[craggy steppe]

They should just abandon skirmish and improve offensive instead.

[grand jungle]

Yea its very small compared to the other ones but i Hope that atleast this year it will be fully compleated

[mellow knoll]

Or yknow, make a new large scale mode that isn't purely made for seeding lmao

[gusty lichen]

I think Offensive is fine, they should figure out a way to make blueberries stop playing Warfare like Offensive

[thin lotus]

2 body shots up to 75m is very generous

[wheat remnant]

I haven't played this in a while and I heard some rumors of Poland and Finland coming like 2 years ago but then got cancelled, are they ever doing that?

[echo karma]

No

[mellow knoll]

Nah not for a couple of years imo

[echo karma]

They can't do the British bro

[mellow knoll]

they've got a lot to worry about this year

[gusty lichen]

Was realized it was a waste of money lol

[echo karma]

Maybe squads releases to console finally. Been a rumor a long time

[wheat remnant]

But like in the distant future is there a chance

Like 5 years for example

[mellow knoll]

Idk, maybe. Anythings possible lmao we can't tell the future

[wheat remnant]

Yeah I guess

[runic veldt]

Well that was a disappointing roadmap to say the least

[echo karma]

They've been rebranding so much I hope they just start hyping hll2

[runic veldt]

2 maps in a year? Crazy stuff

[mellow knoll]

how tf

[wheat remnant]

That's a thing?

[mellow knoll]

Have you not seen the countless reworks on there? Do you realize how big this is?

[echo karma]

1 map technically. Tubrok is already done

Stalinlag is so bad no body cares

[mellow knoll]

The things on this roadmap alone would change how we play this game so much for the better if executed right

[thin lotus]

And only 1 else that’s out within an unspecified time

[mellow knoll]

I'd gladly take a year of reworks if it means better gameplay...

[thin lotus]

Only arty systems will have an impact, but that entirely depends on how what they mean with “rework”

[echo karma]

Tank destroyer would be nice but we have no info. Do the cost more than heavy cuz they can destroy a heavy probaly in 1 shot? Are they mobile? Which ones do we get? What is armour rework?

[thin lotus]

Everything else is generally the same.

This is a QOL roadmap mostly

[covert elbow]

Which is good. It’s what we need

[frail heart]

Roadmap - Team17 lets make a map for the eastern front that no one likes

[echo karma]

Just make arty a commander ability bro

[covert elbow]

And add mobile limited range mortar teams

[slate canopy]

I am excited for Eastern Front!

[primal laurel]

What a beautiful guide, the illustrations, the paper like texture (even marks and coffee stains so it looks like a paper that's gone through wear and tear 😭). Shame its all the way at the bottom.
#1283914605541982364 message

[covert elbow]

Same

[ornate pasture]

i am excited for the arty and precision strike rework, enjoy arty while you can guys

[runic veldt]

Reworks to what?

Precision Strike - Alright, just needs to be more accurate and it's fine, not a difficult change

Artillery - Yeah good one

Armour Systems - Depends on how it's implemented, could be bad could be great

Medic Role & Bipods - Alright, but not really needed tbh

This content is in a dire state of need for content, I'm sorry but 2 maps over the course of a YEAR, not a single new faction, and some basic admin stuff for servers

[thin lotus]

That makes too much sense, they’re not going to

[finite berry]

Medic Role & Bipods - Alright, but not really needed tbh :I

[echo karma]

10min cdr. It already can't destroy garrisons etc. Deletes the loop of recon arty

[mellow knoll]

The few teams I've played MG, I definitely think a bipod rework is needed XD

[novel geyser]

what we do need is a rework of the AT guns
those things stink

[mellow knoll]

You can't place your gun on 90% of things rn

[runic veldt]

By the time we even get a new faction or some kind of variance in map atmosphere, GTA 6 is gonna be out, and the new consoles will be out 🤣 diabolical man, defend these guys a lot, but this is a really disappointment for me anyway.

The soviet map is just going to be a recycled Kharkiv/Kursk

[lucid tusk]

A bipod rework is desperately needed

[mellow knoll]

The only reason I do not play MG, is because of how diabolical the bipods are.

[covert elbow]

Everything needs a rework but we’re getting off topic lmao

[runic veldt]

and Tobruk is bang average too, the Stalingrad refresh could be good if it takes it to a more urban style and not houses blazed to the ground which yes I know was somewhat realistic, but it missed a good opportunity for pure urban comba

[novel geyser]

truu

[echo karma]

But no stalinlag needs reworked. Performance in general needs a pass. I still get the mantle lag bs when I randomly mantle a fence

[covert elbow]

Don’t think I can name one thing that doesn’t need changing

[craggy steppe]

Interesting to see how they rework the medic role. Since its useless and will be useless unless they change something in the gameplay itself.

[echo karma]

I haven't seen stalingrad in months bro. No body puts that map in there rotation

[covert elbow]

Yea that’s my biggest concern

[runic veldt]

^^ Been playing since 2020, the game is getting quite outdated, and even then, it lags in some features that games like RO2 had, it's a shame, I figured since they'd invested in the game we'd be getting a lot of stuff coming

Has anyone got a 5080/5090 on it? What's the performance like

[echo karma]

They have to change core concepts. Timers. Etc. Not gonna happen.

[thin lotus]

Medic rework ought to be a revive and heal all in one animation, though that still doesn’t make the class any less useless

[covert elbow]

Nah when T17 bought it they thought they would just be releasing new content and that’s it. They didn’t expect to have to rework the entire game. Thats why developments been as slow as it has been

[echo karma]

Lest we not forget they fixed the loadout bug

[covert elbow]

See I disagree with that but ultimately I think the “medic” rework will show if they want to take this game down an arcade or realism route

[runic veldt]

Not played in a few months, and not sure unless the Soviet map is a surprisingly good one, doesn't seem like much to return for so far.

[craggy steppe]

I think they give it a better weapon and more ammo.

[runic veldt]

Easy fix, which they'll probably do

[gusty lichen]

BM left them a disaster for real

[echo karma]

I personally hate the smg changes albeit I was happy at the time. Smg should flatline you. You have no armour. 9mm would eat you alive.

[gusty lichen]

I want more loadouts across the board

[echo karma]

Bar should 1 tapath. That 308.

[thin lotus]

Medic will continually be useless until you increase the overall resilience of the players.
It seems counterintuitive, but the weaker the player is, the less relevant medics are.

[junior fossil]

btw, can the bren actually destroy trucks and jeeps?

[echo karma]

I want period specific loadouts.

[lucid tusk]

.30-06

[echo karma]

Medic bad cuz timers bad. Manpower been irrelevant for awhile now.

[analog apex]

nope, only the bigger MG (Lewis gun)

[gusty lichen]

nah it's terrible on the desert korps, they have like 3 guns

[echo karma]

I couldn't remeber if there was a 308 and 30-06 varient

[junior fossil]

Italian weapons might do the trick

[echo karma]

Tbf Germany used alot of other countries weapons and conscripts too. Yeah there infy rifleman rifle is right but often times that even was subed out

@crisp lily do you make content for hll again?

[covert elbow]

Add in multi-faction maps where you can pick different factions to make a squad

[junior fossil]

and did anyone notice that all classes besides the infantry grenadier basically use the m43 Stielhandgranate despite being in 1942 and 41

[covert elbow]

Yes

That wasn’t something BM cared about

[junior fossil]

i mean it disturbs me less than the kar98k bolt😂

[covert elbow]

Lmao yea

[ashen falcon]

2 years is a long time

[analog apex]

I miss my semi-auto Kar98K bug xD

[junior fossil]

btw if anyone want that nonsense to be fixed pls spam feedbacks regarding it or head to https://discord.com/channels/316459644476456962/1351590117319376926 and see if they’ll finally give a dam bout it

[nova tulip]

We need Japanese in hell let loose

[mellow knoll]

We do not need the Japanese in Hell Let Loose.

With how the game works rn it would not work. Maybe when they improve things.

[nova tulip]

Bro wdym? Hell yeah we do one of the major axis forces?

[finite berry]

No

No, we don't

[lucid tusk]

Japan just doesn't work with this game

[finite berry]

Cool, add Italy instead.

[thin lotus]

Teleports to other side of your island
Nothin personnel

[finite berry]

Also works with Tobruk, El Alamein and the Eastern Front; screw Japan

[runic veldt]

ngl really looking forward to BF6 tho, the alpha looks great

[nova tulip]

I’d be down with Italy too

But it can work with Japan in this game

[finite berry]

No

[gusty lichen]

They don't even have to add new factions for this, add berlin

[finite berry]

Not with how this game works

[lucid tusk]

No it can't.

[finite berry]

Not if you wanna stay at least somewhat faithful to history

Which this game already doesn't

[junior fossil]

😂

[mellow knoll]

Which is why I said it would only be possible with drastic improvements

[gusty lichen]

Italy makes more sense than Japan, srry

[nova tulip]

Not trying to argue but how would it not work?

[gusty lichen]

Italy allows you to use the British factions on more maps

[finite berry]

Gameplay: Japanese would be severely underperform against late-war US, you'd have to completely butcher history to make teams somewhat balance
Developer competence: not gonna happen with T17 with their development speed being so low and the game requiring so many fixes and reworks

[junior fossil]

at least it can be directly implemented to some of the current maps we have

[covert elbow]

No

[nova tulip]

Which is fair I suppose but if all that stuff was fixed I’d say there’s hope in the future they could do it, imagine battles on like Okinawa and etc that would be epic!

[gusty lichen]

Japan would require infinitely more assets than Italy, completely different foliage and buildings

[thin lotus]

Don’t worry it’s not happening

[nova tulip]

Not even against having Italy would dope too

[mellow knoll]

To be fair so does almost every map lmao, look at Tobruk for example

[finite berry]

If "in the future" means in like 25 years, yes, perhaps

[nova tulip]

He’ll let loose 4 lol😂

I personally just liked the idea having 3 allies (US,USSR,UK) and potentially having 3 axis (Ger,Japs,Italy) to play from

[finite berry]

Way too ambitious

It's a nice idea, yes, but it's never gonna happen

[nova tulip]

One can dream😢

[proper dock]

Fr

Hell let Loose shouldn’t waste time on a pacific faction tbh

Just give us Maps 🤑🤑

[nova tulip]

At least more ussr vs Germany too many USAvger maps

[proper dock]

True I like Tobruk and After that theres a eastern Front map so looking good

[analog apex]

aaaand... the long requested and expected squad management while alive is once more nowhere to be seen

😡

[proper dock]

What is that

[analog apex]

being able to kick squad members out of squad or change squad designation... without the need to be dead / on the deployment screen

they just don't care about it...
let's see how they will do at least with their planned stuff

[visual niche]

If that was planned, I'm sure it would just fall under the QoL category.

[analog apex]

true enough, yet my ears keep trying to convince me it won't be in that category in the end anyway... let's wait then and see

[thin lotus]

Footstep audio has been trash for a long time, that should be part of the audio rework

[analog apex]

not just footsteps audio - sometimes I am right next to the OP and I can barely hear it

the whole sound system got F-ed when they added the indoor sounds (and implemented its bug too)

[thin lotus]

There is no reason why footsteps should be nonexistent or as quiet as they are. As soldiers with gear.

[covert elbow]

But add swimming /s

[analog apex]

I would accept more silent footsteps only if when we were walking slowly in ADS mode

[thin lotus]

And make the k98 in particular have some damn resonance to it. It’s the worst sounding k98 in any game

[covert elbow]

Honestly all the guns kinda suck both audio and VFX wise

Like the Thompson doesn’t even properly reload

[past vortex]

you could hope thats under ui improvments but yea.... sad

[covert elbow]

Kar’s bolt is out of place

MG42 drum mag having 250 rounds

Muzzle flares not being well lit

[thin lotus]

First person muzzle flashes were made terrible in a previous update

[covert elbow]

Third person as well

Not even existent really

[thin lotus]

They kept the old look on the auto rifles tho

[covert elbow]

Also reloads look so much worse then the originals

[analog apex]

don't even remind me... like the MP40

[covert elbow]

Like before we had believable realistic reloads but now their just Tacticool ones. The pistols being an example

[past vortex]

also map unavailable on redeploy :{

[covert elbow]

Not even talking those haha. Like pre U8 reloads

[thin lotus]

Bring back double clicking deployment

Spawning ui is needlessly cumbersome

[covert elbow]

Idk why BM even added the new reloads the old ones looked really fine

[dim imp]

Are new vehicles coming or what?

[covert elbow]

CLASSIFIED

[cosmic pilot]

Ehhh, they were made more visible though

Which was a good change

[covert elbow]

They were?

[dim imp]

What does that mean

[covert elbow]

That’s what it means

There’s new vehicles on the way but we don’t know what they are

[dim imp]

Whats classified

[covert elbow]

There classified

[dim imp]

So ben B said there will come?

[covert elbow]

“withheld from general circulation for reasons of national security”

[covert elbow]

Yes

[dim imp]

"Powerful new vehicles to shift the tide of battle"

[sage burrow]

do we know when the next update is coming out???

[covert elbow]

No

[oak current]

April

[covert elbow]

Just sometime vaguely in April

[sage burrow]

Ah ok ty

[dim imp]

Why is it classified tho

[crisp lily]

No

[covert elbow]

Build hype for it

[covert elbow]

Np

[coarse belfry]

Wow this game is so dead. Been playing since launch and nothing but disappointment ever since the new dev team took over

[silk igloo]

since launch. xbox tag.

[covert elbow]

How he was banned quick

[worthy charm]

Make it yourself and I shall upvote it.

[thin lotus]

Veteran. OG, even.

[silk igloo]

people always forget the good things. go watch videos from years back, see and hear the jarring things that got changed

[thorny acorn]

rose tinted glasses go hard

[lucid tusk]

Few remember the alpha days of 23 people fighting over 15 points on old st marie du mont

[faint portal]

Marvel Rivals when terry?

[wind shore]

https://discord.com/channels/316459644476456962/1343025977319751741

Rostov, Novgorod, Kostroma, Moscow maps, and other things

https://discord.com/channels/316459644476456962/1338242453551054979

[flint belfry]

Where is the moderators? Why am I russian, if i Ukrainian?

[thorny acorn]

Neretva battle next

[fallen kiln]

I have fun as long as me and my friends are playing, never seen an unactive server, people are always playing

But then again i havent been playing since launch so what do i know

[thorny acorn]

it's probably bc you choose russian flag in #enlist_language

[wind shore]

it's language channel. everything is ok!

all Russian-speaking players

[flint belfry]

Definitely, and 100% no, how can a Ukrainian in our situation choose Russian at all? Or for me to have such a role.

[thorny acorn]

it means language, not that you are russian

[wind shore]

here guys from Ukraine, and Belarus also, all them in enlisted channel , it's the name of the channel

[thorny acorn]

also its just a role no need to be dramatic over it

[flint belfry]

It would be the same as if the US had fought alongside Germany against the USSR in World War II.

[cyan saddle]

We don't hand these roles out ourselves, you can freely grant or revoke this role from yourself by reacting in #enlist_language

You must've at some point selected it, giving you the role

Removing your reaction in that channel revokes the role

[thin lotus]

Realistic, tactical even.
Dare I say, hardcore???

Truth, it was hot garbage.

[thorny acorn]

he just mistook the meaning of it probably

[wind shore]

Ты можешь зайти в канал. Там все русскоговорящие сидят со всех русско-говорящих стран

[flint belfry]

Is there no separate Ukrainian language? I just want to find a way
to say it. Specifically MY OWN, not Russians, Russians usually call
us khokhols and tell us to f*** off, well, that happened to me
more than once.

LALL HUMAN

[wind shore]

Модераторы заблокируют если будут оскорбления, не переживай

там все ровно, все сидят да из твоей страны тоже, можешь смело тегать модераторов если что не так

[flint belfry]

I mean talking and playing with your own people, not with people who are fighting against my country, that's sh**ty to say the least

[thorny acorn]

its easier to have one channel for all russian like languages, just like, if they ever introduced it, serbian and croatian would be a single channel one

[cyan saddle]

Appreciate the help Kedo but can we keep it English please so I can follow 😄

[flint belfry]

I understand this, but you understand me too.

[lucid tusk]

B-b-b-but blackmatter was so good 😰

[cyan saddle]

Honestly the language-specific channels are kind of a relic from the past

[covert elbow]

They could do no wrong

[wind shore]

he understand ) so i explained him that the guys who will say some rude words to you- will get banned, don't hestitate to tag them

[flint belfry]

А, тогда ок

[lucid tusk]

I just need to hear max say "watch this space", just one more time

[flint belfry]

А в самой игре не заблокируют если будут в игре это делать? @wind shore

[wind shore]

не переживай! тут наоборот в кланах даже все играют в миксе

[thorny acorn]

idk, never saw one for me so i never knew anything about them

[cyan saddle]

They're still there but I wouldn't be surprised if they're subject to removal someday because truthfully they're a pain to moderate (especially since some languages are foreign to the entire moderation team nowadays)

[flint belfry]

Ну слава богу

[covert elbow]

Or “it isn’t possible due to engine limitations”

[covert elbow]

Like mf YOU MADE THE GAME

[thorny acorn]

u can definitely take the conversation in rhe russian language channel and stop talking in non English here

[flint belfry]

Я в жизни в клане не играл, у меня только один друг с которым я могу играть, и... Всё

[wind shore]

если только на игрока репорт кинуть , потом спросишь. у нас в клане играют и русские и украинцы и белорусы, так во всех кланах, оскорблять не будут , а если в игре кто -да то кидай репы

[lucid tusk]

He made it, but never played it, his words remember

[flint belfry]

Sorry, he just wrote to me first and I replied

[pulsar fulcrum]

i js lost my hardcore 11 h subnautica run😭

[covert elbow]

True lmao

[flint belfry]

Nothing special

[covert elbow]

It’s funny hearing how much he wanted to do and then just didn’t lmao

[thorny acorn]

unlucky

[flint belfry]

By the way, a stupid question that's not on topic, but is there a co-op in Subnautica?

[lucid tusk]

FLACK GUNS!

why?

WATCH THIS SPACE! leaves

[arctic rampart]

So, got my whole setup moved into my new room and this is what I've come back to. Let's see what's up then.

[pulsar fulcrum]

i lost it to a damn ghost i wanted some nickel

[thorny acorn]

for shooting at infantry ofc

[covert elbow]

Nothing much. Roadmaps looking pretty good

[flint belfry]

I just love the first part (the second one is just one big mistake in my opinion), and I would really like to play with a friend too, buy it if it's possible

[covert elbow]

It’s possible with mod support

[lucid tusk]

The new roadmap has the possibility of being one of HLLs best years or a dumpsterfire, should be interesting

[flint belfry]

But at a normal level or with such bugs, it’s better not to

[flint belfry]

That was a question, just in case.

[covert elbow]

I’ve heard it’s pretty good

[arctic rampart]

Okay, first impression after reading it... Cool to see, but very... generalized.
From the whole roadmap there's only a few specific things that have been directly mentioned to change and to what

[covert elbow]

Yea it’s very vague

Hope it’s good though. Their doing a QA so hope they actually explain this stuff

[lucid tusk]

I'm curious to see how much info we'll get from the livestream

[arctic rampart]

My bet, not alot

[covert elbow]

Especially since most of this stuff is very delicate

[spring tulip]

How are the reworking the medic system??

[thorny acorn]

we don't know

[flint belfry]

What's in the new update, well, public test? There's just not much GB to see. Did they finally add a commander to the shooting range?

[pulsar fulcrum]

guys i have a question what was the best update in mc

[pulsar fulcrum]

1.16 for me

[wind shore]

today was dropped the roadmap, so the posted the thread where you can ask them about it

[arctic rampart]

And hooly shamoly. Most of the questions already asked are so dogwater

[lucid tusk]

Pacific

[wind shore]

but commander isn't a big deal in the practice range, they added a lot of new things to the roadmap 🙂

[flint belfry]

I'm not just waiting for this, I'm dreaming about it and another question, I had the game taken from Creek Games but I finally bought it on the HLL basis, can I somehow transfer my progress to Steam from EGS?

[flint belfry]

Can you show me more precisely where this channel/thread is?

[wind shore]

I think, it's not possible. Only from Xbox to PC and PC - xbox

[flint belfry]

F***********************ck

[arctic rampart]

No offence to the guy who asked, but what the actual f is the point of this question https://discord.com/channels/316459644476456962/1351631730368319620
if in the roadmap itself it says CLASSIFIED.
Who in their right minds would think they'd unclassify it, remove all the hype, just because you asked?

[wind shore]

#1351585323406196808 message

[flint belfry]

The channel is read only. I don't see any thread.

[cyan saddle]

From Xbox to Xbox PC (typically gamepass) and vice versa more specifically ^^

[wind shore]

idk, cause EGS is new, i think it's not possible to transfer like xbox-pc

[wind shore]

слева в ветках - qa-1-roadmap

[cyan saddle]

You're right in that it's not possible to transfer XP from or to EGS

[flint belfry]

Can you guys write for me, please, it's just useful especially for beginners, firstly, just stupidly add this role to the shooting range, secondly, the ability to add instead of these dummies just standing, non-moving enemy models