mess-hall

[finite berry]

Jokes aside, rarely

[worthy charm]

Are you rich enough to have a lawn?👀

And yes thats about it...

We get about 2 Maps per year and the Updates with them...

[oak current]

I have a garden

not mine ownership wise atm, but I have access to it if I come over

[worthy charm]

Ah ok...

Im far to spoiled when it comes to that.😅

[topaz scroll]

I don’t enjoy playing games like HLL after about 3am. Once you hit that point the time zones reach Asia and just the WORST people are in the servers.

Like mass team killers that never get kicked somehow

But when I fight back, I win the team killing race and get kicked 🤣🤣🤣

[summer grove]

Not gonna lie i see this a lot people complaining about team killers and they never bother to contact the admins just complain in chat

[topaz scroll]

No admins in official servers

[wind shore]

TK System works good, i never TK if somebody from friendly team killed me, I know - he would be kicked for TK if it wasn't accidently

[analog apex]

my blood type - no intentional TKs under any circumstances, only if agreed upon by both parties for a strateically faster redeployment of one of us

[topaz scroll]

It's hard to play when you're on an artillery gun and a guy spawns at the base and throws satchels at you multiple times in a row. I'll kill him everytime I see him spawn at base.

[pine ember]

Yesterday I had an epic streak on Kursk, I took out like 15 enemies in one life, 2 with the spade, and destroyed a garrison and three OPs in a row

[wind shore]

i did more kills with out death on Kursk, over 30+, hide in the grass and in the trenches

especially throwing a grenade in opposite trench, it took 5 enemies

so better for this map is bolt

[pine ember]

It was not only about the kills, kills dont matter that much in the game

Its all about flanking and destroying Spawnpoints

[pine ember]

Best is a semi auto, both viable on big distances and in a trench

[wind shore]

yes for trenches it's very nice, but i play on console and missing with SMG

[midnight nacelle]

Tell me what I had for dinner.

[wind shore]

on PC i never miss with it

simple distance on Kursk - 100 metres to enemy

https://tenor.com/view/pepe-gif-17998277

[pine ember]

Thats hy you use a semi auto

[wind shore]

on PC i could use it like a bolt, for 300 metres, with single gun shots

but on console i'm missing if it's over 200 metres , with MPs

so on console mostly i use bolts

only on urban maps i take machine pistols or SMG

[pine ember]

Problem is, you have different distances, thats why using a semi auto is the best option

[wind shore]

on rural maps, 90% of time is bolt

[pine ember]

It does everything a bolt does, but better

[oak current]

I say...."not as good as what you deserved"

[wind shore]

hope we will get MP38 and Kar with open sight, PPD

[midnight nacelle]

Hmm... It was a McDonald's Quarter Pounder with an excessive amount of pickles. 😋

[pine ember]

Why would they add that, there is no difference compared to the original weapons, there is no reason to add it

[oak current]

MY POWERS ARE FRIGHTENING

[wind shore]

DLC

[oak current]

DLC is only cosmetic

[wind shore]

ballistics + - simmiliar

[midnight nacelle]

Aww, I can't post the animated bongo gif...

[wind shore]

like skin gun, but it's not skin gun)

[oak current]

and for outfits/faces/hats

[oak current]

[midnight nacelle]

Banned. 🚫

[oak current]

5 different bongoberg emotes

GBI one is slightly blurry

[midnight nacelle]

I refuse to pay for Discord again... 😅

[wind shore]

Face and hats DLC, it will be cool if they will do separate one - Officer caps DLC, like Luftwaffe caps and other services, faces DLC- separately one, and helmets DLC with cool decals

[oak current]

I always wondered if they'd ever switch up the store from buying a whole outfit for 4.99, to offering just every single slot for 0.99 or something

[wind shore]

like Spanish or French DLC, etc, with uniform, or Luftwaffe field divisions for EF

with French uniform with French flag and helmet with French decal

[midnight nacelle]

Cowboy Hats and Aviators DLC. 🤌

[wind shore]

Spaniards for Northern maps on EF could be , Luftwaffe field divisions and Bolgarians and Italians + French could be for middle maps on EF

[arctic rampart]

Some low level in-game just claimed to be max on all roles on console, proceeded to ask for a whole recon plane over HQ to spot an enemy recon squad

ecks deee 💀

[pine ember]

NO

[pine ember]

The uniforms should stay generic without insignia, and if adding patches, why would you add a small French unit when there are e.g. two full divisions of Latvians?

[mellow knoll]

Oh boy we talking uniforms let’s go

[ebon zephyr]

Plug the sh1t out of the doc my guy

[novel geyser]

If they are gonna add unit insignias and the like it should just be something automatic depending on the map I think. Im sure they can do that
otherwise honestly just leave out units

[mellow knoll]

If you want a country cosmetic to be included that is a foreign legion of the Germans, they should only be available for SS uniforms as they had the biggest variety of foreign nations.

Same can also be said for the Wehrmacht however, as they had some country flag patches on their arms that can also be individually added.

However it should be added properly where you can add nation specific division markings individually instead of having to be its own cosmetic, otherwise it’s taking up space that could be used for unique uniforms/cosmetics.

[mellow knoll]

Did you see the new one I’ve added recently? P cool stuff

[wind shore]

@mellow knoll Heer also weared it

Spaniards and French it was Heer also

[ebon zephyr]

not yet i'll look later today if i don't forget

[mellow knoll]

Yeah well the same can be done for the Heer

Nothing wrong with both

[wind shore]

yes, you should include them in your document and list @mellow knoll

[mellow knoll]

I mean I can try but I don’t think the pack of models I use for the renders include any foreign legions

I’d have to look later

[wind shore]

you could draw it

or use AI instruments to add patches

[pine ember]

There was only a small portion of French soldiers in the Heer

So foreigners should only be available for SS cosmetics

[mellow knoll]

Mmkay I’ve found some. I’ll do them tonight.

[pine ember]

And even there, only the biggest portions should be added if adding them

[wind shore]

for 1944 yes, 1941 - Heer

they had own ranks also as I know, collar tabs

[pine ember]

In the Heer they made up a small portion, so its not justified to represent them because they made up like 0.02%

[wind shore]

for Northern part of Eastern front, if we take those maps, Spaniards are the most, they took part in each battle in North direction

[pine ember]

They were there, but they were not the most compared to regular German forces

[wind shore]

French it's a little, in operation Typhoon, in Moscow battles

[wind shore]

they are pretty famous in north, so they were a lot

in the main battles they took part

in Northern par there are a lot of cemetery's of Spaniards, everywhere , it dated to 1941-1944

French is just a little , above 1-2 thousands, only, yes it's less than them, on middle directions

it's 0.2% ,that's correct

[oak current]

Day of Infamy had a nice system with that - basic outfits for both sides.
But if you had purchased one of the outfit-groups, you could chose that group for your faction

and suddenly, all your soldiers had for example 82AD insignia on
Was also map-based, so you had the groups of X Y and Z on one map, while you had A B and X on another - depending on who fought there (and was available outfit wise)

[wind shore]

i've found it

i remember what's this game, watched on YT before, so it's simmiliar to S44 , right?

[oak current]

...naaaaah
Its mostly just a follow up attempt of Day of Defeat Source
But its FAR from SQ44 or HLL or others

[gray garden]

I like the Day of Infamy/Insurgency loadout system. Think that'd be pretty cool in HLL.

[wind shore]

i love system in HLL, in S44 it's not possible to have DLC

more variety

[lucid tusk]

I miss day of infamy like you wouldn't believe, Ortona and reichswald were banger maps

[oak current]

had some funky features

...also blew out my eardrums when first launching - then you lower the game volume to 11% and are happy

[lucid tusk]

But it just worked really well, I actually found it way better than insurgency. I was really hoping they'd do a sequel

[wind shore]

i haven't played no Darkest hour of Europe, no Red Orhestra, no Day of infamy (

[pine ember]

There were a lot, but not the majority

[nova pivot]

Roadmap?

[queen yew]

hey

[worthy charm]

I looked it up, sadly it seems to have no players anymore and the current Battleye version makes it crash...😅
The gameplay looks sick though, sadly there are no vehicles without mods...

[neat urchin]

For 25' or 26'? 26 might arrive before 25 at this point.

[silk igloo]

i wonder why the practice range is so "griddy". if you observe your movement on the map, or how weird the halftrack MG aim is, you'll notice it

[snow tartan]

Guys why am I so noob in this game ?

[slate mural]

All the enemy's have cheats

[snow tartan]

Cheats ?

[slate mural]

Secret german cheats

[snow tartan]

Can I use it

[slate mural]

No ):

[snow tartan]

?

[naive wind]

hello

[slate mural]

Hello

[echo karma]

So many bots in here

[arctic rampart]

So many bots in society

[waxen quail]

Still no roadmap

[echo karma]

Lmao must be a noob

[waxen quail]

I’ll cut my own head off in front of the t17 office if we don’t get it soon

[echo karma]

Tired of fake promises. Just tell us your working on hll2 already

[worthy charm]

Hll 2042👀

[echo karma]

Lmao I can't stop thinking how arma3 is crushing it and if we had mods like ps where we'd be by now

[waxen quail]

At this point they need to just sell the game again

[echo karma]

Like a new map every 4 months is slap in the consumers face

[worthy charm]

4 months

[waxen quail]

A new map + 3 uniforms for €10

[worthy charm]

More like 6

[echo karma]

You can't even add more content then cod bro?

[past vortex]

any new content at all is a slap while they dont fix the small things

[echo karma]

You shanked the British so hard I'm afraid we'll never see a new faction

[waxen quail]

Fr

So many quality of life bugs that must be like 10 minute fixes

[past vortex]

well the code might be so bad that it takes a lot longer :}

[waxen quail]

True

[echo karma]

Any1 got steam chart link? Gotta be under 2k by now

[waxen quail]

8,837 playing 3 minutes ago

[echo karma]

Surprised

I'm guessing the new CM hasn't said 2 words in here yet?

[waxen quail]

I guess not

The one thing they do worse than regular updates is communication with the player base

[echo karma]

He posted a gif 20 days ago lmao great start as CM

Bro wombat was on something else. Probaly best CM I've seen in awhile. Everyday she was in here

I see you too, you can't hide folecia

[novel geyser]

dw guys roadmap tomorrow

[wind shore]

Who said this? Devs?

[novel geyser]

me

[echo karma]

There are no devs bro chill

They can't get a roadmap out in Q1 there is no roadmap.

[grizzled kiln]

There's only one dev and he's working half-time on the game. Patience !

[visual crescent]

why does the game keep resetting my settings each game start?

[worthy charm]

it a known bug

[echo karma]

Sounds like squad dev is hll dev too huh?

[worthy charm]

You cant prevent it sadly, but you can save the Json to at least save them somehow.

[pine ember]

Sometimes I think about simpler times that are long gone

Old SMDM, when there was no Grease Gun or FG42

When there was only one uniform preset, and almost no DLCs

When the Eastern Front was announced and freshly released

That was peak HLL season for me

[thin lotus]

Hll played the exact same

[lucid tusk]

Eastern front on release was an even more unoptimized mess than it is now lmao

[cosmic pilot]

Fact checked false

[gray garden]

158 results from ben b 🤷‍♂️
guess you haven't been around to see em

[cyan path]

Whats the best way to send bug reports about HLL?

[gray garden]

https://discord.com/channels/316459644476456962/1242767547321942036

also t17 has bug report forums for hll on their site

https://team17.helpshift.com/hc/en/5-hell-let-loose/faq/396-bug-reports/

[median mason]

Is anyone playing rn?

[worthy charm]

You may go to #pc-looking-for-unit, to find people to play with.

[pine ember]

I know, but still, it feels different

[chrome bane]

@fluid pawn say sum

[gentle lintel]

he's doing it

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-panic-gif-8720514262649309419

Ben don't make me look weird

[fluid pawn]

Sum ➕➖➗🟰

[arctic rampart]

Tell us when's the roadmap

[fluid pawn]

Sorry I've been quiet in here recently. Hopefully won't be quiet for long 🫡👀

[fluid pawn]

As you can imagine, I can't say explicitly however I promise it's

[midnight nacelle]

2 of the 3 required soon's.

[novel geyser]

like this week soon

or like under a month soon

[fluid pawn]

Just to be transparent, won't be this week, however you hopefully won't have to wait too long all being well 🫡

Also, working on the next few community pieces which I can't wait to share with y'all 😁

[echo karma]

Something wierd about a British person using yall lol

[novel geyser]

yall

[echo karma]

Tldr map soon

Could we possibly see armour rework this year? Potentially new buildables and node rework too? Skirmish has them by default which is nice.

[thin lotus]

Fog 🙏
Night 😍
Paid dlc reskins ❤️
Make it happen T17 🤞🤞

[eager crypt]

Your forgot:

• night-scoped M1 carbine
• scoped Garand
• scoped STG with drum mag

Whatever happened to the extended Garand clip that was teased in that beautiful trailer back then?

[echo karma]

I hate the night maps bro. We haven't invented electricity in 1940s. Nor do any vehicles have head lights.

[thin lotus]

Every map should be night.
In fact, they should permanently remove every day map and replace it with a night version

[gray garden]

why? y'all is a middle english contraction. ye all.

scoped stg with drum mag

[echo karma]

Hell nah on the scopes bro. There's a reason only sniper gets a scope. They op af.

[analog apex]

he was joking ofc

or... was he 😄

[gray garden]

really

[echo karma]

Duh drum mag. Maybe but not practical no

But then again there is a thomas drummy

[analog apex]

So, we are getting the roadmap by the end of next week I would say? What do you guys think?

[echo karma]

I could care less about a roadmap. They didn't deliver on the last one.

[gray garden]

end of next week would be a month since the pte so not unlikely

[thin lotus]

Who actually cares tbh

[echo karma]

When is meaniful content coming. A map every 4 months doesn't count

[thin lotus]

4 months lol keep dreaming

[past vortex]

why do you ask for content instead of obvious fixes

aweful

[echo karma]

Are we to assume all management up there is incompetent?

[thin lotus]

The only thing this game needs is more paid dlc reskins

[echo karma]

We already know they can't fix anything

[analog apex]

yep... it's been more like 6

[analog apex]

better don't talk like that... Ben here doesn't know us well yet and he may actually take it seriously and not as a joke

[past vortex]

then the maps dont matter eighter

[echo karma]

We still haven't heard anything about the UI rework for maps that I believe was in the roadmap

[past vortex]

people asking for maps gives them the idea they are doing something right

[echo karma]

A screenshot was shown I think but that's it

[gray garden]

new content is generally easier to do and less controversial. a new map will + a sale on steam will always bring new players into the game. changing core fundamentals? now that's liable to upset some parts of the existing player base of dedicated communities and server-owners, as they all have differing ideas of what exactly HLL should be and what design principles it should priortize.

[echo karma]

Or making arty a commander ability

[past vortex]

they dont need to start with core stuff
just the obvious qol

[echo karma]

Armour needs a rework since forever ago. It's totally un realistic plus I hate getting stuck on every rock in the road

[gray garden]

QOL fixes come with every major update. sometimes it's one step forward two steps back, though.

[past vortex]

and some things are never touched

[echo karma]

It's very arcady, even Enlisted has a better armour system.

[past vortex]

thats true but its not the primary concern

[echo karma]

Yeah like changing the ui nobody asked for.

[thin lotus]

Reskins aren’t content and neither is bug and ui fixes

[gray garden]

i mean.. the barracks ui looks better and probably took minimal effort to do, so why not

[thin lotus]

It would be funny tho

[echo karma]

Remeber that update they swore they fixed the loadout bug

[worthy charm]

Be both know its obvious which content we need...

Fog 🙏
Night 😍
Paid dlc reskins ❤️

[analog apex]

like a funny face through the sour tears

[echo karma]

We know that's all they'll do. Who buys this crap dlc anyways? Back in my day you supported the devs for doing good things.

[gray garden]

👁️ 👁️ well i have all of them besides like one cause drip

[analog apex]

maybe they will surprise us in a good way for once?
like they said... "2025 is going to be a very exciting year for Hell Let Loose!"
😄

[thin lotus]

There’s drip feed, and then there’s hll development

Devs have said every subsequent year will be a big year

[gray garden]

some of them are pretty blatant cash grabs though, you're right.. i'm more than happy to buy cosmetics, but if i'm going to, give me an actual substantial bundle of them with a new character face, a handful of uniforms/helmets.. a single coat for $4.99 is pretty silly.

[analog apex]

if they were not apologising for their F-ups at that time 😄

[arctic rampart]

It has been big

A big disappointment

[thin lotus]

It was a steady process, but between bm and t17, they deliberately set the bar lower and lower in so far as expectations.

[past vortex]

but its wasnt a suprise so far....

[analog apex]

yep, they have broken through "the ground 0" several times already

[echo karma]

Lol it's been 3 months haven't seen Jack nothing. Sounds like it's going good already. About like last year no?

[thin lotus]

Remember dev briefs?
Those stopped because there’s literally nothing to talk about. Then they got spaced out longer between publications. Then they just stopped altogether.

[worthy charm]

Thats might be one of the worst things they did, over the years.

[gray garden]

it's all the slow run speed enjoyers fault...

[echo karma]

We don't even really know how many devs are on hll nor who they are. I think it's been 2 company's now? But I haven't checked in awhile

[thin lotus]

The bar has gotten so low that even assuming there is anything in the works in the background, they aren’t going to give a hint behind the curtains because thats literally the only shred of hype they have left

[worthy charm]

The Community doesnt even need to see much, maybe just a weapon or what they are working on in general would be completly fine...

[arctic rampart]

For sure it's like 1 mapper and then maybe 1 or 2 programmers they call in for a task or two from other projects that's it

[worthy charm]

Saying nothing is just the worst thing to do...

[amber maple]

hi

new frenchy on the game !

[echo karma]

And they scrapped all of winter warfare basically. Haven't seen dynamic weather yet. Gonna fry my xsx hopefully

[fluid pawn]

Having a Canadian gf will do that to you 😂😂

[echo karma]

Truth tho. They working slower than squad44. There's like 2 dudes over there

[gray garden]

dynamic weather is on phl and elsenborn?

[thin lotus]

Everything points to the team just not being confident in their development abilities and expected output, even yet within the next 9 months.
I bet you they’re transitioning dev teams again. I bet you.

[echo karma]

I'm from the south and we have a company down here called JCB. We get these British folks coming over all the time and it's hilarious tbh. Like shellshock for them. They never say yall tho

[analog apex]

well, they have to come up with some kind of excuse right? 😄

[echo karma]

I was thinking it's money laundering at this point. I'm sure I could figure out who actually works at expression games tho. There's just no way it takes 5 or 6 months to make a map in ue4. Maybe for me that zero experience but a professional???

Even if they take a month to plan out a map etc. 4 months for coding? There's litterly one dude working there

[worthy charm]

On their dev brief on Elsenborn PTE there were the names of the map designers...

[fluid pawn]

I can confidently say that it isn't a money laundering system. If it is though, so rude that I've not been included 🫠😂

[echo karma]

Tldr horrible management probaly the issue. It was the issue before

[fluid pawn]

I'm looking to get some more insight from devs in the future. Hopefully can share more details on that soon 🫡

[wind shore]

Hello Ben!

[stoic garnet]

I’m is what is. The company has dozens of games. This title is a rental property more or less

As least it’s playable

[wind shore]

Would be cool

[thin lotus]

They are definitely shifting around who’s working on this game lol

[echo karma]

Hell of alot of money to spend on a rental service lmaooooo

It can't be all unpaid interns up there surely?

[analog apex]

hopefully you will have more luck with it than your predecessors (we have come to not to trust you purple guys pretty much 😦 )

[echo karma]

We already know there workplace tactics are Activision certified AAA

[echo karma]

Rip wombat

[analog apex]

how many more times will I have to see this? 😄
if it has at least some connection to what I am saying... 😕

[gray garden]

ah yes because discord user soontm1283 knows how long it takes to make a full detail map for a multiplayer shooter in UE4.

[worthy charm]

Wombat was so great, the only CM to be seen in the suggestions...

[echo karma]

Thank you. Wombat made my name. Queen of soon lmao

[worthy charm]

Sad she is gone, but she is one of the Larian CMs now, so I guess it worked out great for her.

[echo karma]

Better than Bex and that's saying something

[gray garden]

CM to GOTY, pretty sweet deal yeah

[wind shore]

Wombat was a great CM

[echo karma]

Well given it takes poe to release a full content league in 3 or 4 months with well now there over 150 ppl but back then they were tiny like 40ppl I don't think 4 months for a map is suffice no? If so time to make a new game already. Cuz something is messed up somewhere

[stoic garnet]

What I mean is that they acquired the title and would prefer to sit on it. I assume it generates revenue since they don’t exactly have hosting costs.

That’s how I see it

[echo karma]

And see this the exact opposite of what Greg used to say. Cuz we all said its better to burn out then fade away

[gray garden]

poe?

yeah i dunnno, kind of hard to judge how much manpower they can throw at map design when we don't know how many people expressions & T17 has working on the game, let alone how many enviromental artists, modellers, etc.

[echo karma]

Also I hope not. The scratch that hll itches is just right imo. The fine line between just arcade enough and realistic at the same time that there really is no market rn for. Squads to milsim esc. Enlisted too arcadey. Ps doa.

[echo karma]

Path of exile. Same boat as BM really. Small indy team made a cult classic. Now there much larger

Well I know I could find the owner of expression games dunno if I could find the full roster. I'd assume it's all public info on Brit web but there web is backwards from me.

[minor acorn]

Hello

[gray garden]

Judging by the Mortain dev blog, I know there's at least 1 Senior Environment Artist, 1 Senior Level Designer, and 1 Junior Level Designer.. But IMO it's not really worth speculating about. I heard they were hiring new people on around November amid all the buzz surrounding Elsenborn.

But all in all it seems the typical dev cycle for a HLL map is give or take 6 months. Just judging by the chronology of how quickly we got Mortain & Elsenborn. And typically once a PTE launches, they take 1-2 months to iterate before releasing a map.

[eager crypt]

With all the truths you’ve been speaking over the years, it’s a miracle you haven’t been banned yet 🤣

(Thanks for what you’re doing btw)

[eager crypt]

Any status update on Tobruk/U17? Should we expect another PTE or straight to release?

[echo karma]

Yeah but he be spitting facts. The voice of reason

[gray garden]

I don't think for as long as I've played that there's been more than one PTE for a major update, so wouldn't expect that.

[echo karma]

We can feasibly expect content in June given there past history. August if it's huge content. And a few night maps in between probaly soon

[eager crypt]

That was my observation and hope too, but hard to know how these guys work given the blatant lack of comms.

[echo karma]

This is nothing compared to BM. Probably better no?

[gray garden]

BM rose-tinted glasses

the output was higher, sure, but they also just kept adding in more QOL issues and bugs with each update with no sign of taking care of it.

[echo karma]

And given there recent work it's unlikely we'll see any guns factions etc. Meaningful content. We all know how badly the brittish rework was and the trailer we don't speak of

[analog apex]

well, that would be a censorship if I was, wouldn't it? 😏

[gray garden]

[thin lotus]

The ever present thick rose tinted BM goggles

[gray garden]

never forget who added the 🤢 halftrack

"spawn system in your team-based shooter is broken? here have a bandaid in the form of a movable spawn!"

i'm sure that all the pub commander heroes really love BM and their approach, though.

[echo karma]

Yeah I'm trying to think who else has those. I think BF1 had one? I know bf3 and 4?

[cosmic pilot]

I love the half-track.
If I had things my way the only spawns would be half-tracks

[gray garden]

🙉 🙈

halftracks will forever be an existential threat to myself as an armor main.

what do you mean a movable spawn costs as much as my medium tank

(not that you should ever spawn mediums but yknow what i mean)

[arctic rampart]

Jeep costing 80 and supp truck 100 is diabolical

[gray garden]

the jeep also has a ridiculously long cooldown

[worthy charm]

One halftrack should spawn at the beginning of the game + the first 3 Spawnwaves on this Halftrack are 20 seconds faster.

[past vortex]

what a bad idea :D

[thin lotus]

Every attempt at gameplay implementations ended up being second rate to what was already present in the game

[gray garden]

lol

[worthy charm]

So this monstrosity of a waste of fuel would be usefull at least once...

[analog apex]

the same as the Precision strike... if it was at least a guarantee of destroying a tank upon direct hit, it would be OK I guess. But not like this... if a medium survives a direct bomb hit, it's super stupid.

[worthy charm]

🥲 💔

[past vortex]

yea the AT players would race to get that kill

after those lvl1 rifleman drives it straight into the midpoint (with no passengers)

[echo karma]

Plus um it's a medium and thats a nuke dropping on it. If this was warthunder everything around that tank would be ashes

[worthy charm]

So its would be possible to get that achievement for killing a full halftrack.

[gray garden]

yeah i think it's kind of ridiculous how many times i've seen a tank that has survived a direct hit, or been in on. i do think it should be possible to dodge them, but if the bomb lands anywhere in a 5 m radius or ontop of the tank, that thing should be out of action... i also have clips of p-strikes just getting absorbed by terrain or map assets.

[worthy charm]

Currently I cant imagine anyone getting it in a "real" game

[past vortex]

i had a commander and some SLs try to use it as suicide bomb vehicle once

[echo karma]

Another reason why armour is trash and needs reworked. Imagine meaningful tank combat like s44

[worthy charm]

You tried the dynamite buggy as well?

Still want to know if it would work...

[echo karma]

I've seen one deflect of a heavy before. Seems they come in from wierd angles depending on something

[worthy charm]

I got killed by a panzerschreck once with one shot...
Thats what I call Fun.

[echo karma]

And yet another reason why tank destroyers will never be a thing. They wouldn't even work. If they cost less than medium but can take a heavy out Where's the balance? Just a reskin medium. Give us pink panther

[worthy charm]

When Nightvision panther?

[past vortex]

it doesnt really work
the satchel bearers have to jump out and set the satchels
very unlikly

but in that case it was hit by a rocet before it got there ofc

[echo karma]

Panther have no headlights. No nightvision

[gray garden]

hll definitely needs an armor rework. however it'll never be as complicated/simulated as sq44.

[arctic rampart]

It just /won't be/

[past vortex]

they cant even fix the scoreboard

[gray garden]

just something to break up the stale armor meta

[oak current]

Did you see the OMEN Luchs last weekend on 82AD vs Omen?

[analog apex]

which I reported probably via all the possible official bugReport channels in the course of HLL development's history (among other things)

[echo karma]

So but it can be better. Actual armour stats or a real hit box. Animations for fixing things other than a lazy blow torch. Armor values so maybe new tanks can be introduced or mobile arty etc.

[pine ember]

It had a night vision device, but they were produced in very small numbers

[gray garden]

I don't think I did. I saw something from the Greyhounds vs CU(?) match where a guy was sitting behind a hedge and died to a 90 degree rocket reflect though lol.

[oak current]

#hll-videos message all the hits

[wind shore]

Does officers had flashlights ?

[echo karma]

Release mod support and let the community fix everything or start making hll2. Maybe it'll be done by 2035

[pine ember]

What?

[oak current]

3 Rockets, 1 Tank shell - still going. Tough lil Luchs

[gray garden]

every comps team wet dream. a copious amount of AT descending upon the one rampaging light tank

[echo karma]

I believe you but our trucks have no headlights. It's night time with not a spot light in site. Lazy!

[oak current]

I think I have a clip somewhere, where an enemy stuart peppers a Luchs Tank for like 2 minuts and most shots get ricochet - was hilarious

[analog apex]

And where there is some light (like street lamps or inside the houses), it renders only up to like 5 meters (seriously!)... terrible rly.

[pine ember]

Happens only in HLL

[gray garden]

headlights for night mode would go hard negl

[echo karma]

That's why night maps is the laziest crap ever. And yall lost filters and then get night maps bro! With no lights!

[gray garden]

nightmode/fog

lost filters you say?

[echo karma]

When I see a night map my brightness magical gets turned to max on my TV and game hmmmm

[gray garden]

rip console players with no filters

[echo karma]

Only way eft is playable

[arctic rampart]

eft is dogwater

[thin lotus]

So is

Well, you know

[echo karma]

Get gud chads

[covert elbow]

They had 2 company’s, one being an external company and the other being an internal company they made, but pretty soon after T17 acquired HLL they dismantled and closed the internal company and laid off most of the staff on the external company

[echo karma]

I can't remember the name of the other before expression. Cover 6?

[thin lotus]

Flix is/was another who did the console porting, not sure they did anything more beyond that. Shell groups that were probably just outsourced, so whatever they call themselves doesn’t matter much

[covert elbow]

Cover 6 or expression idk which is which

[covert elbow]

It honestly shows how lazy BM was that they didn’t even bother to do the port themselves, subsequently messing up the code even more then before in the process I bet

[sharp wing]

Jolly good show lads, i’m bobbing in about a spot of trouble i’ve occured. Is there anywhere we’re able to complain about admin abuse?

[oak current]

I would assume that would be wherever the discord server of the community is, that you played on

[sharp wing]

It was XBHLL 2

[lyric wyvern]

Favorite kind of cheeseburger?

[sharp wing]

When i searched up the gg name it brought me here

[lyric wyvern]

I like southwestern style cheeseburgers a lot. Load me up with green chilis and queso Oaxaca

[sharp wing]

Is this not the correct server?

[oak current]

official servers have no admins, so if you were punished by an admin / you encounter some problem with one, then you have played on a private server of one of the many HLL Communities

if it was XBHLL2, then you would probably need to find their discord server or homepage if they have one 👀

(dont know them)

[sharp wing]

Oh can you see that message?

[slate mural]

Lots of salad and sauce

[lyric wyvern]

What do you mean by salad? Just like a whole salad? Or you just add lots of veggies?

[novel geyser]

I think a lot of people tend to outsource ports. Pretty sure consoles can be quite fussy for making games for, or atleast its somehow a bit different on every platform
its why rockstar always do PC ports late for their games, they make them specifically for console first

[sharp wing]

Well anyway, thank you for the aid

[slate mural]

Just a lot of onions and tomatoes, normal burger stuff

[lyric wyvern]

Sounds good man

[keen glen]

mcchicken with god amount of mayo

It will flow through your fingers as you eat

@warm rain hi

[sick furnace]

guys what are the best roles to have in an attacking squad

[worthy charm]

Support with flamethrower

[keen glen]

medic imo

[worthy charm]

But only the second loadout of medic.

[oak current]

I enjoyed the Flamethrower A LOT on Tobruk

fwooosh

[worthy charm]

Your a skilled player tho + the City is a good area for flamethrower.

[oak current]

...I think only the second part of that line counts as true

[worthy charm]

Naaah, your great or at least better than me for sure...

Anyway flamethrower is fun to play.

[silk igloo]

an SL that knows to avoid stacking spawns

[sick furnace]

unheard of

[silk igloo]

I swear that it's the reason for 90% of all losses, OPs stacked on other spawns

[sick furnace]

i love how people are either spread everywhere or they are all in one spot

[thin lotus]

To this day, the general playerbase still does not know how to use OPs

[covert elbow]

It’s almost like garrisons are useless past the initial spawn…

[silk igloo]

console take

[covert elbow]

Not really

I only ever seen garrisons being used when a squad doesn’t have an OP

[thin lotus]

Most players seem to write OPs off as lesser garrisons. They’re anything but.
It won’t even cross players minds that you can half your respawn time and have more freedom in maneuverability.

[covert elbow]

OP’s are almost always quicker and closer to the action

[thin lotus]

Not with how the average SL uses them

[silk igloo]

and i can risk my OP right onto the enemy if i have a fallback garrison in case it gets taken down

[thin lotus]

Placing new OPs within the territory right before the enemy caps the sector is a classic noob SL move

[cosmic pilot]

well, yeah, that doesn't mean they're useless ever other second

the potential to be used in the absence of an OP is like, the entire function of a garrison 🤦‍♂️

[covert elbow]

Thats my issue tbh, garrisons should be first priority not OP’s

OP’s allow to much freedom of movement and make it so I will constantly loose garrisons because no one spawns on them

It’s a bad cycle. Honestly only recon should get OP’s but they also need to be nerfed

They cause way more issues then solving them

[cosmic pilot]

it's the opposite, there should only be OPs

keyword here is, LOCALIZATION

OPs are good because it localizes enough people into a specific part of the map that being in a different part of the map can be relevant

[silk igloo]

you lost me on the second part

[cosmic pilot]

if a squad is localized, it can't teleport

not teleporting good 🐒

[visual niche]

Schizoposting again huh

[cosmic pilot]

fasting posting

[visual niche]

Isn't localization just language?

Ah I get it now

[cosmic pilot]

it is the noun form of localize

[covert elbow]

But now you have the issue of squads being to spread out to do anything

Also if your in a squad you should be listening to your SL on where to spawn at

[silk igloo]

right. having a tether on all my squadmates would be nice.

[visual niche]

And the commander having a tether on squads as well..?

[cosmic pilot]

calm down 🤨 📸

[visual niche]

Sorry I got too excited

[cosmic pilot]

idc what you're into

but don't bring it here

[visual niche]

I'll take a step back

[cosmic pilot]

who moderates the moderators

[covert elbow]

Take 6 please your scaring the children

[visual niche]

Who watches the Watchmen

[covert elbow]

God?

Or are the mods more powerful then god

[cosmic pilot]

it was a rhetorical question 🙊

[covert elbow]

Your a rhetorical question

[silk igloo]

would be nice if i could limit grids where each squad can build their OP and garris

[cosmic pilot]

i thought about this, and rejected the proposition

[silk igloo]

enough of all the garris and OPs that sidestep the enemy and let them walk in

[cosmic pilot]

just get rid of red garrisons

and if you really have to,

make an initiative mechanic to determine attackers and defenders
or just make a new gamemode

[thin lotus]

None of this mass teleporting garbage spawn logic would be an issue if the maps weren’t unnecessarily wide as they are

[silk igloo]

to use such a tool the commander would need a new UI to easily see the strength of each infantry squad. the game needs it even now, it's too cumbersome combing the scoreboard for inf squad names and numbers

could be as simple as 1-6 white dots around an infantry OP icon

[thin lotus]

People do like their meaningless numbers bloat

The scoreboard is such a mess

[cosmic pilot]

my man, has an intuition for UI design

👍 👍

[covert elbow]

*get rid of air heads and supply drops

Thats how you solve the red zone garrison issue

[covert elbow]

Going back and seeing why they have the maps so big makes sense. But then they removed the smaller objectives in like dev brief 2 so like what’s even the point of all this

[cosmic pilot]

there were no smaller objectives?

the map was like, 400m wider and each SP was captuarable all at the same time

[covert elbow]

In like alpha/ early beta there were 3 objectives per sector

[covert elbow]

Yea

[cosmic pilot]

yes, but they were the same size and importance as what we have now

afaik there wasn't any conditional capture order

[covert elbow]

Okay copy, didn’t understand that

But yea point is why tf did BM have a core gameplay element, get rid of it, and then not compensate the game for it

[cosmic pilot]

what do you mean, get rid of a core gameplay element

[covert elbow]

Like cool variable objectives but they can often be one team sided, creates weird game flow, and the maps just way to big even with the different objectives

[cosmic pilot]

the downsizing of the active objectives was arguably the correct design decision

[cosmic pilot]

the map is too small actually

nowadays anyway

[covert elbow]

Like the map is this huge because they had multiple objectives per sector. But then they got rid of it and didn’t make the map smaller?

[cosmic pilot]

the made the map a good 400m smaller or whatever

[covert elbow]

No their still way to big, especially with how everyone utilizes the map. At anytime 90% of both teams willl be in 1-2 squares

[cosmic pilot]

maps used to be 2k by 2k

[covert elbow]

Christ I can’t even imagine that

[cosmic pilot]

oh, nvm we lost 800m

[cosmic pilot]

look at a tac map

the two bars on each side are potentially playable area

but anyway, the maps should be 2 x 1.6km

[covert elbow]

I know that

1 square is 200km and you just gotta count from their

Wait a minute what happened to the tac map chat?

[grim night]

whats the tac map?

[covert elbow]

Tactical Map. It’s the map you see in game

[grim night]

oh ok

[grim night]

i think is really big

[past vortex]

takes 40min to run

[covert elbow]

It is really big

[covert elbow]

Actually I wonder what the distance is

[past vortex]

200m

[grim night]

yea i know

[covert elbow]

The maps are just to big for 50 Vs. 50

To actually flesh out the map you’d need like… 100+ per team

[grim night]

i think it makes the game feel more realistic

[covert elbow]

1k would be more then enough for a map

[cosmic pilot]

three words
ve-hi-cles

[grim night]

if you have to run a lot to get from here to there just like in real life its more realistic

[covert elbow]

Yes but that’s not my point

The maps just to wide for 50 Vs. 50

Should have clarified

[solar crow]

how much smaller do you think it needs to be

[covert elbow]

Half it

[grim night]

then the devs should have made a smaller map for 50vs50

[covert elbow]

Yes

[grim night]

try to post your comment in suggestions

[covert elbow]

I have. The devs don’t care

[cosmic pilot]

in the gameplay flow of HLL, flanking is essential to progress, so more room to flank is more gooder

[covert elbow]

They have their priority’s and my suggestions aren’t apart of it

[cosmic pilot]

yes HLL has meatgrinders, but if you reduce the width of the map it becomes only a meatgrinder with no hope of escape

[grim night]

maybe they are too busy

its a big game with a lot of players

[covert elbow]

If we want to solve the meat grinder issue yes, shortening the map isn’t the solution. That would fall to adding tickets

[cosmic pilot]

i've actually played operations that are 400-600m wide with 50v50 and they suck

[cosmic pilot]

NO TICKETS

[covert elbow]

It’s litterly what the game needs

[cosmic pilot]

is not

[covert elbow]

A hybrid/ ticket system is just the best option for the health of the game

The timer only aspect is just bad

[cosmic pilot]

yes, but the solution is not tickets like how other games impliment them

[covert elbow]

It creates endless meat grinders until the attacking team manages to get an unseen supply drop/ airhead behind and the frontline swaps

[grim night]

whats a ticket system?

[cosmic pilot]

a max number of respawns

[covert elbow]

A team has a certain amount of spawns, I.E. tickets

For example if a team has 100 tickets then they only get 100 spawns

I’d love it if HLL had sector specific ticket counts. So if you use all your tickets in one sector you can’t spawn their anymore and have to fall back

[cosmic pilot]

tickets were a gimmick invented for arena shooters to have some variety in gamemode win conditions

[covert elbow]

But HQ has no tickets

[cosmic pilot]

i do not see how that's applicable to HLL

[grim night]

the game would be more realistic with tickets then and the player would actually be afraid to die because it knows that he can not respawn forever

[covert elbow]

Tickets are the closet thing we can apply to actual lives and it helps prevent human wave attacking an objective or throwing yourself at an enemy tank over and over to kill them

[cosmic pilot]

as a baseline, a HLL team would need a minimum of 1000 tickets to have any hope of having a 90min game

[covert elbow]

Exactly

[covert elbow]

Like I said, sector specific tickets to make sure teams have a chance to keep up

[cosmic pilot]

what you want is attrition, which there are other meaningful ways to achieve it

[covert elbow]

Either sector specific tickets or make it so OP’s and Garrions have a limited number of spawn’s before they become unusable

[azure heath]

hi

[covert elbow]

Hey smog

[azure heath]

i'm new here

again

[covert elbow]

Where’d you come from? Back in the hole

[azure heath]

that honeypot is too tempting

[covert elbow]

But tickets make the most sense, fit gameplay best, and are an industry standard

[covert elbow]

Haha. So if anyone posts there they get banned?

[azure heath]

just kicked

[covert elbow]

Dang

[cosmic pilot]

industry standard for arena games which are on different scale 🙄

if BF has tickets i wouldn't know

[covert elbow]

Are you

Are you serious? Are you 1000% not joking?

[cosmic pilot]

i never joke

kid yes, joke no

[covert elbow]

I don’t even know what to say right now in that case

[cosmic pilot]

and industry standards are 🤮

[nova pivot]

Hi, can I try one?

[covert elbow]

When was the last battlefield you played?

[cosmic pilot]

who wants to do what the industry standard is for its own sake

[covert elbow]

Actually have you even played battlefield?

[cosmic pilot]

never

but case in point, tickets aren't meaningful until you're about to run out completely

[grim night]

no you can not

[cosmic pilot]

therefore they are bad

[covert elbow]

Okay well then idk what tot tell you but BF has always had tickets

[nova pivot]

😔

[grim night]

its like asking a human if you can eat a part of him

im not letting you eat my chips

[azure heath]

that's what i was thinking

except my name's jeffery dahmer

[nova pivot]

But they look so delicious

Share them, don't be selfish

[grim night]

so you are a crazy killer who eats their victims

cool

[nova pivot]

I'm sure they'll grow back.

[azure heath]

that's what i thought

[nova pivot]

Just let me try one

[grim night]

thats not how chips or body parts work

[grim night]

no

[azure heath]

lizards have something to say

[nova pivot]

Lizards' tails grow, and so do starfish.

[grim night]

i am not a lizard or a starfish

can a mod ban him? he is trying to eat me

[nova pivot]

I just wanted a chip

😔

[grim night]

a part of me

[cyan saddle]

back off, he's mine

[grim night]

its like asking a friend to eat their arm or leg

[grim night]

IT WORKED

MY SPELLS SUMMONED YOU

[nova pivot]

I'm sure he let me eat him

[azure heath]

just a nibble

[nova pivot]

If he's a good friend he should let you eat him.

[grim night]

what kind of friends do you have?

thats not how friends work

[azure heath]

skin will grow back

can i have a lick of a chip?

[nova pivot]

None, I've eaten them all

[grim night]

in what universe skin grows on humans?

[nova pivot]

I want too

[grim night]

NO

[azure heath]

||so i can't lick your insides?||

[grim night]

oh cool we got 2 crazy killers here JUST GREAT

[nova pivot]

I hope it's juicy and salty

[azure heath]

juicy chips?

are you mad?

[nova pivot]

You pour orange juice on it

[grim night]

me? ME?I AM STILL THE ONE WHO IS MAD??

[azure heath]

bro

i'm talking about the maniac who ate all his friends

[grim night]

how can i unsee this?

[grim night]

oh ok

[nova pivot]

Just let us eat a chip

And everything will end

[azure heath]

that better?

[grim night]

no its still in my mind

[nova pivot]

We can share it between the two of us

[azure heath]

i'm down

[nova pivot]

Better, more for me

[grim night]

BROO JUST STOP THIS

[azure heath]

i mean, are the chips really part of you? or are you just the bag of the chips?

[grim night]

none for any of you

[nova pivot]

Ok bro, sorry for making you uncomfortable

[wind shore]

💀x100

[nova pivot]

Give me a hug 🫂

[azure heath]

you'll crush the chips

[grim night]

read my name: bag of chips not chips inside of a bag

but yes they are still part of me

[cyan saddle]

Then you're just bag

[azure heath]

sooo.. the chips aren't part of you

[grim night]

with chips

[nova pivot]

You have no excuses

[azure heath]

although we'd have to surgically remove the chips

[grim night]

never

[nova pivot]

😔

My arms are still open, in case someone takes pity on me and gives me a hug 🫂

[azure heath]

yeah, but they aren't part of u

[grim night]

how about you do not do this

[azure heath]

you're just a bag

[grim night]

never

[azure heath]

bags don't feel pain

[grim night]

how do you know?

[azure heath]

bags can't speak or type

[grim night]

well i can

[azure heath]

what are you really?

[nova pivot]

Continue

[grim night]

a bag of chips

[azure heath]

aight, imma just eat the chips

[nova pivot]

🤯

[azure heath]

there's no way this bag of chips is typing, must be a hallucination

[nova pivot]

Grab it, I'll take it out

[azure heath]

got it

here ya go

[grim night]

nah

[grim night]

BRO

[nova pivot]

crunch

It's very good

[grim night]

this is getting to weird im out

[nova pivot]

Take one

[azure heath]

idk man i don't like the blue ones

[nova pivot]

Try it

[azure heath]

ok

crunch and swallow

mm

[nova pivot]

Isn't that good?

[grim night]

i hope you are going to get killed over and over again in hll

[azure heath]

delicious

[nova pivot]

I want another one

[azure heath]

what's that?

[nova pivot]

Come here little bag

[visual niche]

Can y'all leave the chip bag alone lol

[nova pivot]

Have you tried them?

[azure heath]

u want a chip?

[grim night]

you crazy psychopats

[nova pivot]

If you tried them you would understand me

[visual niche]

They mean well

I think

[grim night]

do they?

[azure heath]

cut applause from the audience

it's an act

[nova pivot]

Good recording guys

It came out perfect

[azure heath]

that was a good take

[grim night]

no thats going to be a nightmare in my dreams

[azure heath]

here, have a chip, it'll make u feel better

[grim night]

yea very good im just going to go and try to forget what happened in the last 30 minutes

[azure heath]

u just played a role

that's all

[ionic cove]

hello

[thorny acorn]

omg its in- imagine the invincible title card gif, i would send it but no image perms

[visual niche]

I wish it didn't have to be like this 🥺

[ionic cove]

is there lfg?

[visual niche]

https://discord.com/channels/316459644476456962/600902429520822303

Also you can use this https://discord.com/channels/316459644476456962/1339389298755240047 to get to it quickly if you want 🙂

[azure heath]

Aha! Bags of chips can't hold memories, according to ChatGPT:

Bags of chips don't have memories in the way living creatures or even machines might. They’re just bags containing food that’s been prepared and sealed. While chips themselves might undergo certain changes—like becoming stale or breaking over time—these are just physical processes, not memories.

[ionic cove]

ty

[thorny acorn]

it is lying to you

never trust IT

[lament rose]

Lol

[midnight nacelle]

https://tenor.com/view/invincible-invincible-fortnite-fortnite-party-hips-gif-2301797803305406777

[long flax]

Anyone know why its so hard to find a d day server?

[azure heath]

it's not dday

[cyan saddle]

If I were to have a guess, out of the 15-20 maps currently in the game, people do not want to restrict themselves to 5 maps only

[cosmic pilot]

If I were to have a guess, out of the 5 maps currently in the game, people do not want to expand their horizons to 15-20 maps only
||fixed it for you||

[soft elm]

"the motor pool" come help us get it full

[muted verge]

did HLL discord do away with the seeding channel

[slate canopy]

Nope, we have both seeding. #pc-seeding-help #console-seeding-help

[muted verge]

thank you for some reason it wasn't showing up for me but now i see it 🙂

[valid talon]

Any groups recruiting?

[slate canopy]

You can find clans in #1343089641489961001 and see if you find anything interesting 🙂 Good luck!

[mortal totem]

is that also for pc players?

[slate canopy]

There is a pc one seperate! #1343090646168240199

[mortal totem]

thankyou

[wind shore]

Xbox keep crashing 💥

5 times today..

Yesterday - 4 times

Maybe something wrong with console, but I think maybe it’s not

It’s mostly crashing when switching maps or when you joining the game, not during while playing

During the game , I think it’s not crashing.
Only while switching map or just when you joined the server and it’s crashing

[river rover]

Have you tried clearing your cache?

[long flax]

I just played omaha us offensive for the first time and it was lowkey underwhelming

[slate canopy]

Defense must have sucked. Most of the beach offensive is rough.

[long flax]

mg fire didnt start until like 30 second after we landed

there were 40 people on our team and the beach felt so open

[wind shore]

Will do if it’s possible on Xbox,thank you! Really haven’t cleaned the cash memory

[river rover]

Keep us posted, let us know if it helps in any way. There's a routine for doing it by holding the power button until it shuts down and you leave down for a few minutes. You can probably find the actual routine online for the Series S\X

[wind shore]

Have cleaned

Will test during that days

How it will be going on

@river rover FPS seems better

[river rover]

Keep those fingers crossed. 😦

It is something to do every so often. Similar to those with Steam and Deleting their Steam Download Cache. 😉

Whether it cures or reduces the issue that's another story.

[sinful fulcrum]

random question is there a real reason why most of the time chinstraps are on top of the helmets in game (not including US i know they didnt wear theirs under their chin)

[slate canopy]

I don't think there is a set reason it's one way and not the other. 🤷‍♀️

[wind shore]

So , i will hope 🙂

P.S. in steam, i never got crashes

[analog apex]

800m wider

[analog apex]

no, all 5 sectors were capturable, the map consisted of full capturable 5x5 sectors

[analog apex]

Which was the only main problem - backcapping. Had they add some rules, even a 5x5 map would have been playable, just without the copypasted predictability we have today.

[cosmic pilot]

#mess-hall message

[analog apex]

yeah I noticed

anyway, the 5x5 map layout could have been its own gamemode

[subtle lintel]

when is the hll 2025 roadmap being posted? I've been waiting for a while

[analog apex]

Yesterday, Ben B said it won't be this week. So... I assume it's going to be (probably) the next one.

[subtle lintel]

oh okay thx

[subtle lintel]

whos ben b tho, im new

[analog apex]

here is the message ☝️

Ben B is from Team17, he is the HLL community manager here

[subtle lintel]

oh thx

[covert elbow]

Man I thought you was a telegram

[analog apex]

aaah

[covert elbow]

Probably April

[placid perch]

who tryin to play

[analog apex]

This is going to be a good test of how truthful/reliable Ben is as a HLL CM, comparing to his predecessor(s). But since on 10th of Feb 2025 he said the roadmap would come in a "couple of weeks", I feel like... meh already. Because it seems it is going to be no less than a full month since that statement in the end (probably 1 month and 1 week, we'll see).

The purple guys still haven't given us much reason to believe them and rely on their words yet. 🥶

And I wonder where is the problem...

• in the CMs?
• in the devs who probably don't give them requested info fast enough?
• or both?

We may never know, but in any way, the communication between them seems to be the problem.

[covert elbow]

Its management

It’s always management

[analog apex]

management of communication xD

[worthy charm]

I wonder if they will get their money back on their investment...

Wasnt it like 45 Million? No way they made so much money.

[analog apex]

yeah... an investment is only as good as the investor. Get a bad investor and the investment may get easily wasted.

[misty belfry]

Bing bong

Have we got the road map yet 🥹

[lean skiff]

road map is meaningless,they just boast.😇

[analog apex]

☝️

[covert elbow]

[analog apex]

used to be funny... only before they started using it every time when being extremely late +in a non-interrupted streak of being late. I wonder when (and if at all) this streak will finally get broken.

[sturdy ibex]

man

i bought 5 games of hell let loose

[analog apex]

Omg what for? Or do you mean 5 free EPIC copies?

[sturdy ibex]

worth around 20k rupees

[sturdy ibex]

i mean games

free

[analog apex]

I mean game too.

[sturdy ibex]

end long back

where do people in this server come from

[analog apex]

all over the world

[sturdy ibex]

like america

[sturdy ibex]

ah okok

but dont they speak different language

[analog apex]

nope, most of the channels are ENG-only

there are a few localized channels though

[sturdy ibex]

where are u from

[sturdy ibex]

can u tell me how to access them

my boards end in 4 days ill play this game with my fridns a lot

[analog apex]

#enlist_language - click your corresponding flag to gain access to its language's channel.

[sturdy ibex]

i click russian nothing happen

@analog apex

[analog apex]

Yep, I just tried an noticed the same thing, it seems to be broken.
<@&365680483276816385> any chance of fixing it?

or were the localized channels removed?

[midnight nacelle]

It appears to be bugged, if you request a language I will assign it.

[analog apex]

yep, redmanjatt here above wanted to gain access to the Russian channel

[midnight nacelle]

I've notified the Admin of the issue.

[analog apex]

thanks, on behalf of the localized peeps 😉

[visual niche]

Unscheduled maintenance. ETA - Soon-ish

[midnight nacelle]

Assigned and pinged in the Russian Channel. 🫡

[visual niche]

The old fashioned way.. manually? 😱

[covert elbow]

Hit it with a wrench

[finite berry]

Erectin' a dispenser

[vagrant mountain]

where’s the 2025 road map

[covert elbow]

[cunning cobalt]

i think they should make hll 2 at this point but no company is focused on innovastion anymore

[visual niche]

innovative new microtransactions

[worthy charm]

Where are my vehicle Skins?

Ny Tiger needs to look like a tank from Halo

[summer grove]

I'd pay $5 to explode into confetti when I get shot

[vestal spear]

nest thing yah know HLL has a nikki minaj skin XD

[covert elbow]

I’d buy it

[arctic rampart]

We need a magrider

[visual niche]

Should be all set now, thanks for the heads up

[analog apex]

yep it works, thanks again 🙂

[worthy charm]

-# I didnt need to look that up at all

[crisp bluff]

the only magrider i know
is planetside 2 hover tank

[arctic rampart]

That's the one

[real parrot]

Magrider gud

Best tank to fly over mountains

[storm stratus]

Does the AirHead being White instead of Green like all other Spawns bother anyone else, or just me?

[crisp bluff]

gotta be special

[visual niche]

Yeah I wish there were accessibility options for icons at least.. I can never see the white and yellow ones 😅

[storm stratus]

Don’t know what that refers to. But i always miss the AirHead if im not aware it was placed. The green is just the obvious colour for all spawns one can use.

[patent river]

hello

[storm stratus]

invalid or corrupt back send right at the end of a game. whats that mean ?

[cyan saddle]

Nothing in particular, it just seems to happen every now and then

[arctic rampart]

imo, commander should notify if a friendly airhead is dropped. After that it's your SLs job to trickle the info down the chain for you.
As well as inform you whether or not you should spawn on it given the squads current goals

[storm stratus]

first time its ever happen

[cyan saddle]

Yeah it's not super common luckily

[storm stratus]

do i still get the games exp ?

[cyan saddle]

Not 100% sure but I believe so

[wind shore]

Hello

[echo karma]

Nah I wish they had a system like squad where commander had a unit that ran logistics built nodes etc.

[arctic rampart]

Yes, you should be calling out important info as command and yes it's your responsibility as SL to bring the info down the chain just as much as it is to bring it up the chain.
And in SQUAD they never do full logistics. They're just a half baked inf squad where commander misses half the callouts cause he's listening to command chat

[tulip perch]

Any chance of removing the official servers so us lot who own servers can actually seed?

[wind shore]

@gentle lintel check dm pls

[arctic rampart]

Actually valid take in regards to official servers

[worthy charm]

I dont believe you want people who play on official servers on your server...

[wind shore]

i love official one

[echo karma]

I dunno why they even have official servers anymore. It's just a cestpool of miscreants now

Litterly all the the trolls play official

[cosmic pilot]

Why would you self own like that

[echo karma]

And skirmish that no one plays

[worthy charm]

Could they do something great development wise with the money spent on Official server, I would agree. Otherwise I rather keep the "cestpool".

[echo karma]

I guess it's only up for skirmish. Most of the tk ppl go to official cuz they get banned in community servers. Spend a match or 2 in there in leadership its hilarious

[solar crow]

bruh these queues are so annoying I've been waiting for like half an hour

[cyan saddle]

I'm not sure if those servers are costing them anything tbh

[past vortex]

hosting location surly costs

ofc they might have rented whole racks, so numbers of servers doesnt add much

[cyan saddle]

It does, but all official servers are hosted by Gportal I believe. What their agreement is we can only speculate, but I wouldn't be surprised if they sponsor those servers in exchange for being linked in the game when you press the "Rent a server" button

They also had console exclusivity for a while but there were other reasons at play there as well

[solar crow]

1 hour of fighting for the 5/6 spot bro fml

OH MY GOD FINALLY

[silk igloo]

roadmap drops tomorrow because it'll be a nice round 300 days remaining until next year. bet on it.

[cosmic pilot]

Bet

[slim void]

That's such a strange reason. I'll take that bet.

[solar crow]

bruh 1/6 and pushed back to 3/6 WTF bro

this game testing me bto

[gentle lintel]

https://tenor.com/view/confused-john-travolta-pulp-fiction-lost-where-gif-5377106

[solar crow]

😤 😪 😩 ☹️ 😭 😭 😭 😭

[visual niche]

You've almost cracked the code

[cunning cobalt]

@gentle lintelhey drew i remember you used to be a clan leader

i remember you werent a bad guy but my dude you are the book definition of inflated ego syndrome

it was like your ego was nuclear lol

[past veldt]

That sounds like Drew

[cunning cobalt]

yeah lol

[past veldt]

It's a joke

[cunning cobalt]

he got the ego of billionaire

you used to be a part of a clan no?

long time ago when jaguar was around

[past veldt]

I love that you keep going with this

[gentle lintel]

ah, you must be talking about the AFTERNOONG

[past veldt]

Triple down

[cunning cobalt]

hmmm

i am pretty sure it was you but maybe

[gentle lintel]

other than afternoong 🌞 , I have not been apart of anything

[cyan saddle]

Damn Drew I never knew you were a clan leader!

[gentle lintel]

I'm kind of a big deal

[sturdy ibex]

man i went to youtube gaming server and told the idea of putting gay flag was stupid

they banned me 😂

retarted mfs

[smoky urchin]

🤔

[smoky urchin]

Not sure what you're expecting from coming here with that. But hey if you give me your game ID I'll 100% give you VIP for life, no strings attached at all pinky promise.

[wind shore]

Does anyone know if there will be new uniforms in the store with the Tobruk drop?

[visual niche]

I don't think there's been a confirmed release date yet, just the Public Testing a few weeks ago

[wind shore]

They say April

That’s all I know. Would love to see new uniform options for the Britishes

[smoky urchin]

Hmm, you said this and suspiciously the info comes out about April.... Confirmed we've got a spy.

[visual niche]

well there's your answer lol

[fluid pawn]

I was waiting till today to answer, however it will be dropping in April 😄

[neat urchin]

Guess 2025 starts in april lmao

[thorny acorn]

ye

[sturdy quarry]

April 30th

[visual niche]

11:59PM

[thorny acorn]

we gonna get GTA6 before 2025 roadman

[visual niche]

Uh oh the telegram has stirred Chum up

[thin lotus]

Lmao if the road map comes out before April and Tobruk is on it.
Just lol

[lucid tusk]

Don't get me wrong a release date is cool but that ain't no roadmap

[royal rivet]

Aw man still april...

[spare plover]

no one said it was a roadmap

[sturdy quarry]

there wasnt a release date either...

[thorny acorn]

we got release month

[sturdy quarry]

and we got a roadmap year

[lucid tusk]

Oh really?!?

[wind shore]

Tasty!

[sturdy ibex]

man how u give id

[lucid tusk]

I never could have guessed

Imagine my shock

[visual niche]

No roadmap playthrough

[sturdy ibex]

i am noob and very very new to game

[jaunty shuttle]

I’m happy we’ve got confirmation of when the Tobruk map is being released…….but brother we are a 3rd of the way into waiting for a roadmap that would be shown ‘very soon’ after the new year

[sturdy ibex]

acctually @smoky urchin ill message u in dm

[smoky urchin]

Well if you're on epic, on game menu go to options it will be in the top right of your screen, just DM me a picture of this lovely ID and I can sort you out.

[sturdy ibex]

ok sir

[neat urchin]

April is the start of the new financial year Q1 so makes sense lmao

[cosmic pilot]

News of news ahh telegram

[sturdy quarry]

ben just needs to pretend as T17 is UK based that the fiscal year starts in april and thats what they meant by 2025 all along

[sturdy ibex]

@smoky urchin its not allowing me to message u

some claud bot

[spare plover]

that would be a funny reply from them 😂

[carmine marten]

April? In this pace we will have 2 updates this year on roadmap

[smoky urchin]

What is this @visual niche I need people to DM me with very important information!!

[past vortex]

let me guess.... roadmap on april 1st

[crude moth]

I'm going to guess the Tobruk update will also come with plenty of bug fixes, riiiight?

[neat urchin]

[spare plover]

all new features come with new bugs. That is how software development works

[solid haven]

Fellas don't worry. We're getting the 2025 roadmap in December of 2025 and the 2026 roadmap is coming in 2027.

No transparency and no urgency here. Very annoying. Seems like they don't really care about the player base.

@fluid pawn

[past vortex]

almost right
it will have plenty of bugs to fix

[sturdy ibex]

now im feeling suspicious why are u talking in that tone

[thorny acorn]

getting tobruk april 31st

[carmine marten]

except there is no new features 👀 only new bugs 🤣

[lucid tusk]

@fluid pawn is it safe to assume there'll be another tobruk pte to test changes and, hopefully, improvements?

[visual niche]

you have DM's disabled for this server in your Discord settings most likely

[heavy citrus]

April? Guess they found out it's not ready yet? How was it? Didn't attend the playtest

[prisma bramble]

April 1st April fools day

[past veldt]

Did we need a ping for

Could have at least given us a dev brief

[spare plover]

it's nice, it plays well

[smoky urchin]

Nothing to be suspicious about, it's important to me to help people in need.

[cosmic pilot]

Don't ping me unless it's the roadmap

[carmine marten]

classic t17

[pseudo heath]

https://tenor.com/view/tom-rosenthal-friday-night-dinner-you-could-be-more-vague-gif-5942734

[heavy citrus]

good. Only thing I don't like abt their maps, so this one judging from the screenshots and Mortain, is that they only look 80% as good as Black Matters maps

imo

[neat urchin]

I could see them doing that. "Hey heres the road map..... April fools" It's coming in May

[past veldt]

Noted Hyrum

As a spoiler, the road map will include 'general bug fixes'

[wind shore]

I am a spy.

I can share some information before Ben B snipes me.

The next map after Tobruk will be-

[prisma bramble]

I agree

[wind shore]

#telegrams message
keep calm, they promised very nice years of HLL. If it delay - no problem

[carmine marten]

"we fixed voip (again)"

[wind shore]

I don’t think we should worry

[past vortex]

yea i think they will announce "roadmap soon" on april 1st

[wind shore]

Why it should be so fast, I’m calm and patient waiting for roadmap too

[pseudo heath]

Don't worry about the hit boxes being broken. Look at this new map! Coming soon. Eventually.

[neat urchin]

@cosmic pilot #telegrams message

[thin scarab]

So no Roadmap this year?

[wind shore]

We should wait

[neat urchin]

https://tenor.com/view/april-gif-9617385119158401499

[solid haven]

It will be here in 2026

[thin scarab]

Revealing a map launch before a roadmap is weird…

[sturdy quarry]

its only T17 for setting expectations, calling it 2025 roadmap and saying in december it was "weeks away"
only themselves to blame that ppl keep asking

[past veldt]

[nova pivot]

Where roadmap?

[past vortex]

why do a roadmap when all changes for the year already release in april

[lucid tusk]

Nope, they're waiting to compete with gta6

[obtuse heart]

When road map

[thorny acorn]

no roadmap

[carmine marten]

wish devs (of any game) would start putting out roadmap of year 'x' before that year starts

[past veldt]

You have to feel bad for Ben coming in to be CM for a community which generally doesn't like the Devs

[lucid tusk]

And don't forget those sacred words when it is released

subject to change

[wind shore]

Maybe something cool expected, I’m sure in it 😎😌 so no problem if roadmap delays , they said in telegrams they working on it , and haven’t decided the deadlines of roadmap, + we already got 2 ( 3 ) maps, so I’m not worried anymore about the roadmap

[neat urchin]

Bro i hope he got a good signing bonus to put up with this community lol

[nova pivot]

I want roadmap

[solid haven]

The highlight of the 2025 roadmap when it comes out will be a note that they have a 2026 roadmap coming

[pseudo heath]

Remember the great road map of 2023? Sigh, good times, then pow, new devs with many promises.

[past vortex]

arr rod mab