mess-hall

[lucid tusk]

Member when some silly marines used "it means scout sniper" to justify their spicy flag? I member

[novel geyser]

I was baffled that the game came out of 1.0 then because I remember getting it for the first time and immediately noticing so many issues and was like "its ok its early access im sure they will fix these glaring issues with the game...."

[novel geyser]

"its a roman salute" ahh defense

[gray garden]

if i could embed images i would post one with the text "hll if it never released to console" with the society if image

[covert elbow]

The what?

[lucid tusk]

I don't mind that HLL came to console, I think console players need more game diversity other than cod/bf/killzone2thegreatestshooterofalltime, i just wish they got a separate version, it definitely hurt pc development

[arctic rampart]

YEAH! SEGREGATE THEM

PUT EM IN A BOX FAR AWAY

[lucid tusk]

Some guys overseas posed with a Special Squad flag, it made international news, their excuse was it meant scout sniper

[novel geyser]

going to Console destroyed my hopes of better gunplay™️

[arctic rampart]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gTd4aIeNlzM

[gray garden]

PC Console parity for a game that doesn't have true crossplay is simply unnecessary.

[novel geyser]

this is true

it could be like TF2 on console, without updates since release :)

[gray garden]

well the hll pitty party for the day is over it seems, gonna go eat a hotpocket. peace 🖖

[thin lotus]

Look behind you

My entire team has teleported there

Nice frontline you've got there. Would be a shame if my-entire-team-teleported-past-it-because-excellent-gameplay-in-hardcore-realistic-tactical-shooter-omg-isnt-this-game-just-so-great-and-fun-to-play

[arctic rampart]

Which means your defensive point is starting to be capped

[novel geyser]

oh sorry someone on your team was telling me where all of your garrisons were so I just ran through your lines uncontested and destroyed them all

hope you like being set back to your final point after 1 hour and 20 minutes of attacking OUR final point

[thin lotus]

this will never be old to me lol

good grief, HLL is just so damn goofy with it's gameplay.
It's legitimately funny how bad it is

[lucid tusk]

I'm still laughing at "you don't even own the game"

[thin lotus]

lol

And here's how this game works, also I don't actually own the game but I'm going to vicariously explain the workings of it.

[lucid tusk]

We definitely have some characters here

[novel geyser]

I think im out the loop of this one

[radiant knot]

Hi guys I just got the game what to expect (except apparently PTSD )

[lucid tusk]

Someone was aggressively arguing in favor of current game mechanics just to say later they don't own the game and had never played it

[lucid tusk]

Avoid official servers, play on community ones, don't take leadership roles just cause they have SMGs, have fun

[radiant knot]

Yea I don't think I would take the leadership roles immediately unless they had misleading titles

My friend taught me some stuff about this game and I think anti tank or engineer would be good

[lucid tusk]

You're gonna die a lot, accept that now, learn from the talkative people

[arctic rampart]

Yea, you'll be fine. Just be talkative with peeps in the squads and you're gonna have a great time

[radiant knot]

I hope they arent like the phasmophobia community

[arctic rampart]

They're even worse

They're boomers

[radiant knot]

so they will cuss out your family and you because you made a simple mistake as a new player?

[novel geyser]

insane

[radiant knot]

Cause thats what phasmo players do mostly

[finite berry]

this lol

[novel geyser]

people are generally chill

[arctic rampart]

Aren't phasmophobia players just edgy teenagers? Cause to me that looked like a unity asset flip more than anything

So I never got it

[radiant knot]

They are

[novel geyser]

I'd say most of the time if you find a squad that communicates they will be very chill

[radiant knot]

Anyways cya for now I will play tommorow when it downloads

[covert elbow]

Got a link for it

[lucid tusk]

With friends who are scared of their own shadow its genuine comedic entertainment

[lucid tusk]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gTd4aIeNlzM

[finite berry]

Even if it's not, it kind of fills that niche now and works that way. Which is a positive thing, actually.

[arctic rampart]

Yeah, but for like 5 minutes

Me and the boys got Outlast Trials thinking it'll be fun as well. Then there will be updates etc.

Turns out we had fun for like 2 hours, then it just became a "we don't care, just sprint+W through the map" game

[lucid tusk]

I've got maybe 17 hours of playtime total, it was worth the $6 I payed for that amount of time, wouldn't recommend it now obviously

[covert elbow]

Oh my god what is this

I’m so ashamed of this

[worthy charm]

Who designed that flag

[arctic rampart]

I literally posted it like 20 minutes ago

[worthy charm]

Thats so stupid...

[arctic rampart]

You bozos

[covert elbow]

Who are you?

[arctic rampart]

A certified HS DXD enjoyer

[lucid tusk]

Multiplayer horror just doesn't work imo, being with friends takes away the scare factor. DbD is the proof, it's just a cheese fest. Also any game that has you not able to defend yourself as an adult human against physical beings is trash

[worthy charm]

"Not a lot of people would be able to connect that with the SS" BIG UFF

its one of the most known symbols ever to come out of germany...

[covert elbow]

I hate what they had to say so much

People know what that is and the fact those marines weren’t put on trial and even defended really shows what their priorities are

But since I don’t want to be banned I’ll drop the conversation

[arctic rampart]

It would be more fun in like a LAN setting at night, but how many times are you gonna host something like that. Is what it is 😦
Life sux

[covert elbow]

I know someone here is waiting with a report button

[worthy charm]

I dont really want to be that political in here, but fr? Stupidity shouldnt be an excuse...

[worthy charm]

We both know😅

[covert elbow]

What some more stuff we can badmouth in HLL

Vehicles?

[arctic rampart]

Water

[autumn schooner]

Hey everyone. New to the game what's up

[covert elbow]

Ah yea idk the system

[covert elbow]

Nothing much just talking about the game. How are you?

[lucid tusk]

The fact the 75 jumbo is redundant never fails to piss me off

[novel geyser]

the sky

[worthy charm]

Tank rework?🥹

[covert elbow]

Yeaaas it’s so baffling

[covert elbow]

I’m sorry you had to hear this from me but…

[worthy charm]

Oh dont get me started

[covert elbow]

No

[autumn schooner]

been wanting to play for a while so I'm good!

Absolutely trash though

[arctic rampart]

There you go Ninja. A PlayStation friend for you

[covert elbow]

Nice! If your wanting to squad up with some people #console-looking-for-unit can help you with that

[lucid tusk]

You're telling me a tank known for just absorbing shots from a tiger and had conflicts end with both tanks leaving due to expending all ammo is useless? Get outta here with that

[covert elbow]

Lmao

[worthy charm]

Isnt it just a heavy with a medium cannon?

I dont get what the point of it is at all.

Has it more Splash damage?

[autumn schooner]

Hell yeah ty

[arctic rampart]

Isn't this gonna turn from a gameplay discussion to a history discussion?

[pulsar fulcrum]

guys my gf cheated and left a few weeks ago but now i have a plan.

[worthy charm]

Does is turn faster?

Has it more HE?

[covert elbow]

Very welcome!

[arctic rampart]

It's bright green. Looks.... brighter? 😄

[covert elbow]

Apparently it used to but it was either removed or became bugged so it longer has it

[lucid tusk]

I wanna say the initial idea was to have it be an infantry support vehicle in game but BM had about as much mental processing power as someone who's clinically a vegetable when it comes to vehicle implementation

[covert elbow]

So now it’s a slightly better M4A3 but worse jumbo

[worthy charm]

Yeah, I think Sam said that once..

[lucid tusk]

I will say WP rounds are nice but should be standard in all shermans, at least 3 rounds

[worthy charm]

You mean the GOOD FUN CORPORATION?

[covert elbow]

Yea you have to get their name right strudel

[worthy charm]

Short GFC

[covert elbow]

With how the game works getting Willy Pete isn’t a good trade off

Tanks are honestly there to destroy other tanks, not infantry support

Tbh I’ve actually seen combined arms warfare like 3 times in HLL

[worthy charm]

Would be great if it would be like that again... Dont believe they are gonna change tho.

[covert elbow]

And it’s only been on Carentan

[lucid tusk]

Sorry, I promise not to make fun of the guys making a napoleonic dark fantasy extraction open world hero shooter battleroyal with crafting elements

[arctic rampart]

Having the name GOOD FUN CORPORATION and then making an edge website and a slasher extraction game is quite the combo

[covert elbow]

Thank you for respecting them

[arctic rampart]

Console issue

[worthy charm]

Where can I sign up? xD

[pulsar fulcrum]

DUDDE

[covert elbow]

Nah it’s a me and your mum issue

[pulsar fulcrum]

I WROTE MY WHOLE PLAN

AND IT DIDNT SENDDDDDD

[covert elbow]

That’s probably because it was against the servers rules

[arctic rampart]

We have a very strict set of rules here.

No gifs/images
No cursing
No cringe posts from Epic players

[worthy charm]

Could be worse

[pulsar fulcrum]

alr it sent'

so this is my plan

[lucid tusk]

I've had good combined arms a handful of times, it's possible but rarely happens, blueberrys have no situational awareness and teleporting AT ruins the fun

[arctic rampart]

Tell me your an edgy american kid without telling me your an edgy american kid

[covert elbow]

Can you just delete that?

Cause no one wants to read this

[pulsar fulcrum]

NOOOOOO

[lucid tusk]

Don't engage, break contact, golf (arty (mods)) inbound

[covert elbow]

AT has always been an issue with the game. Infinite satchels and rockets are stupid

[pulsar fulcrum]

its a plan am being srs

[worthy charm]

Should i understand this or is it ok for me to not comprehend it fully?

[pulsar fulcrum]

am from georgia lol

[covert elbow]

If your serious I’m reporting you

[worthy charm]

May just be my english diff...

[pulsar fulcrum]

why would u report its js ingame

mhnmm

[lucid tusk]

MODS

[arctic rampart]

Brain cell diff

[covert elbow]

Then delete it because no one wants to read that

[worthy charm]

I played lol today, so that may just be the problem...

[pulsar fulcrum]

so heartless💔

[lucid tusk]

I also have a plan for my GF, I'm gonna make her play HLL so she'll leave me for recommending it

[covert elbow]

I don’t have a plan for my GF because I don’t have one

[pulsar fulcrum]

no shes gonna become addicted

[autumn schooner]

Yall will end up in the same squad

[covert elbow]

We won’t because crossplay between console and PC is disabled

[autumn schooner]

I tried showing my wife videos while it was downloading and she was like oooook that's nice have fun

[arctic rampart]

Show her the "No Russian" mission and film the reaction

[worthy charm]

You monster

[autumn schooner]

Lemme jot that down

[pulsar fulcrum]

it feel sso weird to see someone having a wife in discord

[arctic rampart]

Welcome to a community where the average age isn't 14

[autumn schooner]

I'm old as hell

In gaming years at least

[worthy charm]

Oh god, Im above average?

[pulsar fulcrum]

woah

[worthy charm]

Now i feel old... Damn

[autumn schooner]

First time for everything

[gentle lintel]

https://tenor.com/view/i-am-above-average-gif-11047560

[autumn schooner]

I'm getting used to being the old guy atp

[worthy charm]

Damn you and your rights to post gifs!😒

xD

[lucid tusk]

Scares me to think I'm probably an old man here

[gentle lintel]

scares me to think I'm probably an old man here

[lucid tusk]

Not Jericho Stryker old but still old

[arctic rampart]

HLL discord -> 🇰🇵

[worthy charm]

Nah, china is better.

Dont know who of the mods is Winnie The Pooh but at least we got a honey pot.

[wind shore]

Hello

Game crashing on console every 1 hour

still

[worthy charm]

So everything as always?

Good to hear

[wind shore]

Yes, it’s crashing out in main menu

On Xbox

I’m not tired of it , no problem

[pulsar fulcrum]

i need a shawarma rn

[wind shore]

But after each restart DLC resets

[pulsar fulcrum]

i cant

[wind shore]

And you need restart it again

[dawn ember]

hello

[wind shore]

Why is there no roadmap

[covert elbow]

[worthy charm]

[novel geyser]

roadmap tomorrow

[worthy charm]

Damn you were faster...

[wind shore]

😀 🔫

[novel geyser]

tuesday will be the day

[covert elbow]

https://tenor.com/view/clint-eastwood-gunslinger-six-shooter-gun-flip-flip-gun-into-holster-gif-4148730080769454978

[covert elbow]

Nah it already came out

[wind shore]

It’s simply to fix DLC reset

On PC - nothing resets

I'm excited for the tobruk map what about you guys

[covert elbow]

#mess-hall message

[novel geyser]

It seems good so far, minus the visuals

[worthy charm]

YOU WERE FASTER AGAIN!!!

😒

[covert elbow]

https://tenor.com/view/clint-eastwood-nod-clint-eastwood-clint-eastwood-intergalactic-clint-eastwood-hat-tip-clint-eastwood-blondie-gif-17544056042525888525

[novel geyser]

waow

amazing

[covert elbow]

When did Altberg get his own emotes anyways?

[worthy charm]

So I need to go to bed now, got a job interview in the morning.

[covert elbow]

Hope you get it!

[worthy charm]

We will see, i shall try it at least, the worst that can happen is a no...

[arctic rampart]

In regards to T17 roadmap deadline:
"F your work deadline. If you make it, you make it, if you don't make it, you don't make it. They call it a deadline, but nobody actually dies if you miss one." - based indian man

[pine ember]

Same

I just want Juno beach after it, then two 1942-43 eastern front maps and then more North Africa

[thin lotus]

No more beach maps, thx

[pine ember]

No more beach and no more bridge, got it

[finite berry]

Don't say that, they can always hit you with "ew" :D

Good luck, mate

[finite berry]

Foggy beach?

[cyan saddle]

Foggy beach maps are underrated

The fog hides the beach

[pine ember]

That one Omaha map that was in the PTE...

[gentle lintel]

I think it was kinda a hostile takeover

Behind the scenes he’s very menacing

[covert elbow]

The fog also hides my sadness

[oak current]

oi

[gentle lintel]

Case in point

[zinc goblet]

.

[lucid tusk]

Hard disagree, I love beach maps

[oak current]

Oi!

[past vortex]

what now only 5 variants of that emoji

[oak current]

bongoberg-emote has made its way to multiple discords at this point

[covert elbow]

Wait they can use outside emotes???

[slate canopy]

I am sure if you have the membership on here. Just like any other server.

[covert elbow]

No?

also why would I need to pay to use emotes on this server?

[oak current]

Am special boi

[nova pivot]

Do you want a hug? 🫂

[covert elbow]

No?

[slate canopy]

🤷‍♀️ I presume it would work that way, but also don't have that membership so.

[nova pivot]

Ok, I get it.

I just wanted to help take away your sadness

[blissful karma]

Gang Ganggg

[frank magnet]

Does anyone know when the new map/updates drop?

[cyan saddle]

Nope

[exotic dew]

nah

[frank magnet]

They need to figure out a way to prevent mic-less players from getting command roles

[exotic dew]

Not necessary when you can just vote kick..?

[frank magnet]

When you have multiple people with no mics.

Plus God loves stupid players by allowing them to remain and not be kicked

[north marlin]

Hi.

[slate canopy]

Welcome

[exotic dew]

Well I suppose but there's no good method because you'd have to do it each game seeing as at one point you can use a mic and at another it's different

[past vortex]

how about a beach map with fog but its night

[covert elbow]

Perfect

[wind shore]

are the servers down or something? or is my game tweaking

[slate canopy]

Do you have cross play on?

[wind shore]

yeah

[ivory rampart]

servers are crashing for me as well. xbox app on pc

[wind shore]

its not displaying any servers in the list

[royal rivet]

I don't understand why HLL got so many official server while ppl playing on community server mostly, isn't it pretty expensive to maintain?

[crystal agate]

Same boat for me

[slate canopy]

I'm loading up, lemme see.

[slate canopy]

It's so there are always servers available.

[ivory rampart]

Except for right meow 🤣

[slate canopy]

I've loaded up (I'm Steam)
I see 745 servers found with 97 showing based off my filters (just shows community)

[crystal agate]

I'm Xbox game pass and having the same issue as wentworth

[ivory rampart]

Must be console issue

[wind shore]

on epic, and nothings showing up for me

[crystal agate]

Xbox game pass on PC sorry

[slate canopy]

I'm just saying that as proof it's not necessarily the game is down. (Which has happened before!)

So then the next questions is if it's Microsoft/Epic related.

Can you get in other games online?

[wind shore]

steam always getting all the love 😭

[wind shore]

checking rn

[slate canopy]

Also if you're a fresh install, there may be some tweeking you have to do in settings

[wind shore]

i can launch other games through epic just fine

[slate canopy]

But do you get online games? (not so much load the game)

[wind shore]

i just queued up into an online game in rocket league no issue

[slate canopy]

Okay, so it's not a direct issue 🤔

[quick onyx]

Im also getting the search failed notification

[crystal agate]

I have no other MP games on Xbox on this PC 😕

[plucky basin]

erm guys why cant a fella play 😡

[slate canopy]

So everyone else is stuck on the server off the Enlist button and don't see servers... correct?

[quick onyx]

I just raged quit marvel rivals and wanted to kill some nazis 😪 guess not tn

[plucky basin]

It doesnt show servers in search correct

[crystal agate]

Yes no servers at all. I did notice that at first I couldn't see certain servers then all disappeared

I typically play on Glows and they have multiple servers. Only central showed for a few minutes then nothing.

[slate canopy]

Looks like The Epic Game Store DOES have a current an EOS Matchmaking issue.

[quick onyx]

I get the search failed notification even tho i got everything turned on

[slate canopy]

if you go to their website, status.epicgames.com

[wind shore]

rocket league is still standing surprisingly

[slate canopy]

says "Degraded perforamance" for Lobbies and Matchmaking

[wind shore]

i really gotta stop buying games off epic, they always have issues

[ornate pasture]

why does my data need to go through epic to get to the hell let loose servers

[slate canopy]

I am not sure. 🤷‍♀️ I am not a video game developer or do I know anything about all that.

[ornate pasture]

same haha

[slate canopy]

I work in a laboratory for my 9-5. I just enjoy playing the game and the community is awesome...

[plucky basin]

@slate canopy Fix it or else 😾

[slate canopy]

I'm trying. 🥺
Be patient please 👉 👈

[plucky basin]

🫡

[wind shore]

[slate canopy]

You look new, are you? If so - make sure crossplay is on.

[past vortex]

arr teh särfers

[plucky basin]

its on just server search doesn't show servers, it did like 30 minutes ago, im assuming the servers are down or sum

[past vortex]

its an epic issue, microsoft is also affected

[slate canopy]

Yeah, I'm still getting 700+ servers on Steam.

[plucky basin]

all my homies hate microsoft

im a broke game passer

[ornate pasture]

microsoft prob uses epic servers secretly

[slate canopy]

That does remind me that you or someone said the api for microsft is epic as well.

[past vortex]

im quite sure they do

[slate canopy]

while steam has steam api.

(I don't know this 100%, don't take my word!)

[past vortex]

steam is seperate for sure

[wind shore]

this is why multiple launchers is an issue

[plucky basin]

I wouldnt be suprised Epic and Microsoft probably both use amazon

[viral mortar]

Is there any estimated time for it to be back?

[plucky basin]

Never I heard

[wind shore]

knowing epic, at least an hour

[ornate pasture]

why do i have to go through their api to play in seperate hll servers

[past vortex]

last time it was 3 h

[plucky basin]

waited all of work to play 😭

[past vortex]

thats hll dev lazyness, they just use the UE plugins

[vocal timber]

All i did all day was look forward to playing hell let loose tn and now my day is ruined

[wind shore]

im trying to show the ms. how to kill nazi's and this happens smh

[slate canopy]

Epic has had the issue since "Mar 04, 2025 - 02:34 UTC"

[plucky basin]

@slate canopy Give me your gaming machine please

[slate canopy]

No. My PC 😠

[plucky basin]

https://tenor.com/view/comunisto-dogo-gif-15433861177915232836

Our PC

[wind shore]

this is the perfect excuse to buy the deluxe edition at 50% off on steam

[slate canopy]

I meeean. 👀 It goes on sale on Steam frequently!

[wind shore]

the deluxe edition is 20$ cheaper than the regular version rn lol

[past vortex]

you can almost always get it for 20-25 bucks from steam resellers

[plucky basin]

Well since I cant nuke nagasaki in the game Im gonna go nuke my toilet

[wind shore]

deluxe is like 24$ on steam, im buying it screw this

[past vortex]

its not a bad buy

(im still not buying it:)

[wind shore]

ill do anything to get away from epic games

[knotty rampart]

Are ther servers down?

[wind shore]

yep

[knotty rampart]

Ty

[slate canopy]

Epic servers are having matchmaking issues, you can check their status on:
status.epicgames.com

[modest anvil]

man not again :C

[past vortex]

for me its ok that the servers are down
it is too late anyway

[slate canopy]

To each their own! I bought it years ago, definitely got my moneys worth. lol

[brittle turtle]

if i buy on steam can i have the same account i have on epic? or

[novel hedge]

hello, the sv are down? NOO

[wind shore]

oh hell nah, steam servers are down too

[past vortex]

i was about to play one more but those drunk finish guy ruined it anyway :D

[cyan saddle]

We should have never let Jericho into the server room

[slate canopy]

You can link your Epic account on the Steam version.

[slate canopy]

Mine worked, lemme try again.

[modest anvil]

i am from argentina, just entering in my gaming night

[brittle turtle]

thank you

[past vortex]

are you sure

[novel hedge]

when the problem is solved?

[slate canopy]

I loaded up, it takes longer on Steam, but it loaded. Still see 744 servers.

[wind shore]

weird. i get the no servers found error

[slate canopy]

Yes.

[slate canopy]

Cross play on?

[wind shore]

mhm

[novel hedge]

DID hell let loose SAY WHEN THIS PROBLEM WILL BE SOLVED?

[modest anvil]

its a problem of the server explorer, not a problem from the servers, thats is weird

[wind shore]

no one knows when it will be resolved

[modest anvil]

if you keep trying maybe can see all the servers working

[slate canopy]

Nope. It's also early morning for the HLL team. This is more Epic based, not the game.

[modest anvil]

give some food to the epic servers rat

[wintry thistle]

It’s a hamster

[slate canopy]

There may be something blocking? I'm not sure 🤔

[wind shore]

first time this has happened. when i launched earlier, it showed like 20 servers, but they were all empty. now it doesnt list any

[slate canopy]

https://discord.com/channels/316459644476456962/1271001093706350733 See if anything here helps.

[wind shore]

im mega dummy, i installed the test client

[slate canopy]

😉 Easy fix!

[wind shore]

i got too excited

thanks :)

[slate canopy]

the PTE will be useful.... laaaaater

[winged lion]

Servers is down?

[slate canopy]

if you wish you ever participate

[slate canopy]

Epic has issues with matchmaking. sorry

[gentle willow]

Epic is having matchmaking issues on their servers

RIP to epic users

[winged lion]

Tks

[modest anvil]

need to download it from steam again

is no way to use existing files to execute from steam?

[gentle willow]

I’m so glad I have it on steam and epic. Bought on steam and have it on epic so if one goes down I can still use the other lol

[slate canopy]

Not that I know of. You can link your Epic and Steam accounts tho!

[modest anvil]

you have 2 times downloaded?

[gentle willow]

I bought it on steam a while ago. Then when it was free on epic, I copped it.

[gentle willow]

That’s exactly what I did so that I can be playing no matter what 🤌 worth it

[slate canopy]

Nice 👍

[cyan saddle]

Guess we'll all have to play Fortnite now

Oh wait

[slate canopy]

Ew god no.

[cyan saddle]

That's also Epic

Roblox!

[wind shore]

time to play airship assault on roblox bois

[solar crow]

Is the game down??

ok it is

[digital path]

Yes

[slate canopy]

Nah, I'll be my girly girly and play Infinity Nikki and listen to kpop 🙂

[modest anvil]

just enter in a server rn

[past vortex]

just play enlisted

[rigid lintel]

Disgusting!

[past vortex]

naw its great for a quick and furious battle
i prefer BR5. it has explosions, full auto fire and explosions

[gentle lintel]

And the pacific

[past vortex]

yes

[buoyant glen]

Just played HLL after some time and no one talked. It sucked. But still a fun experience

[solar crow]

FIX THE SERVERS!!!1111 🤬

🤬 🤬 🤬 🤬 🤬 🤬

[slate canopy]

No need to get angry. It's on Epic right now - they have matchmaking issues.
Check https://status.epicgames.com/

Seems like they fixed it? Reset your Epic?

[wind shore]

i didnt talk for my first like 10 hours playing. i had extreme mic anxiety (i had no idea what i was doing or what to say)

some people are just scared to talk i guess

[buoyant glen]

I mean i can definitely understand that but sometimes you just gotta jump into it and if you get cool people you’ll have so much fun and laugh about so many mess ups

Especially if you run a tank

[wind shore]

for me, ive played games that had extremely toxic communities before playing hll which made it hard for me to talk when i had no idea what i was doing. Once i started coming out and talking, i realized just how cool this community is, and they dont really care if youre clueless, as long as youre trying

i main armor, so yeah a mic is pretty much crucial. I typically wont let people in my squad if they dont have a mic

[buoyant glen]

Thats completely fair honestly whenever i do main armor in hll i feel really really good when i have an open conversation.

[wind shore]

yeah when you have a full armor crew on comms, its quite an enjoyable experience

[buoyant glen]

If its a dead server i switch the Medic

[elfin panther]

howdy

[wind shore]

stg teammates killing me at spawn over and over is gonna make me crash out

[vital bridge]

man soviet victory music goes so damn hard

🫡

[solar crow]

games back up?

[solar crow]

Aight

[toxic zinc]

hello, i'm new here,

[arctic rampart]

Hi New here,!

[sour fog]

Wuzzzzzzup I’m new here

[analog apex]

Welcome to the grinder then! 😉

[fossil brook]

Does anyone know why theres no servers showing for me rn? I just downloaded the game.

[mint stone]

w00t! Finally got my computer issue fixed that was making the game not launch.
Played for the first time in nearly a year.
Went 28-5, helping our team win the match.
Felt good. I really missed this game.
Also, people have been saying on Steam that too many people aren't talking.
Me and the SL communicated very well, and he did a good job, thus earning his commend.
Looking forward to more fun!

[worthy charm]

Have you downloaded the PTE?

[fossil brook]

the what

[mint stone]

PTE. Player Test Environment.

Not sure if I have the last word correct.

Basically, the Beta Server.

[fossil brook]

oh

[worthy charm]

Look which version you have installed, the rarely do a PTE and for the "normal game" you need the version without testing in the name.

[topaz scroll]

Hey fellas, I’m a long term clan owner. I’ve been running clans for about 15 years now. I was looking for a new game to move my clan to after a long stint of focusing on survival games. Kinda tired of the “persistent world” gameplay and was looking for something more like the old days when we played Battlefield 3. I’ve played HLL a little bit as a player but never looked much into the community.

My question is, is there enough of a community on this game that would be interested in some clan gameplay? Nothing competitive, just looking to have a 10-30 man group of people who can coordinate better than just a bunch of randoms in a team.

Not looking for recruits or anything btw, just trying to figure out if HLL would be a good fit for us to move to

[worthy charm]

There are a lot of clans, how you can see in #1343090646168240199 and there is a rather active comp scene.

[topaz scroll]

Perfect, I was hoping that this would be the case. I have no interest in being in a clan vs clan type ordeal or competition, but if there are clans who are doing that, that means there is infrastructure in the game and a playerbase who enjoys clan based play

Thank you brother.

[worthy charm]

No problem

[grave dirge]

is the deluxe edition worth it? does it add any new expansions or only skins and such?

[worthy charm]

only a few skins, nothing you really need. There are no content expansions for the game yet.

It depends on how much you like the skins...

[oak current]

All "expansions" that happened over the years, are within the main game. all DLC is just extra oufits, faces and so on shenanigans.

[past veldt]

I'd recommend you get involved in Friday Night Fights as a mixed community event. Might be some info in #legacy-event-announcements or #1342672953791348838

[scarlet meadow]

So why is the roadmap for this year taking so long?

[rigid lintel]

I find it funny that Hell Let Loose's Deluxe Edition is on sale, but the stand-alone game isn't.

[wind shore]

Mortain is the best map in my honest opinion

It’s mixed.

[pine ember]

Mortain is alright in my opinion

[worthy charm]

One of the better maps for sure

Foy still the best though objectively

[pine ember]

Its mid

Best imo are Carentan, Kharkov and SMDM

[arctic rampart]

Kharkovs unbalanced if you use brain cells. Sniping 5 squares across the map from a hill top on a marker isn't good.

Carentans one of the better maps, but tanks aren't all that strong on it.

[worthy charm]

Good that no one in pub games has a brain

[pine ember]

I like it because of its urban areas and these small forests, and because the open areas provide a challenge

[arctic rampart]

It's a decent map, not counting the many hitbox and terrain issues ever since the last updates

[pine ember]

Its the best of the Eastern Front for sure

I wish for an Eastern Front map on the level of SMDM, set in 1942-43

[coarse belfry]

The less bushes the better imo

With the exception of purple heart lane

[radiant knot]

How do people spot me from a 100m

[pine ember]

Its pretty easy, if you see something moving or something that looks odd, you shoot

[radiant knot]

I accidentaly killed my teammate because I didn't know how to throw the granade

[worthy charm]

That's not even that far away. Highround and your own running position (normal/ crouched) play a more important role than you might think.

If youre new I can recommend watching this #telegrams message its short and explains the basics.

[radiant knot]

I will soon but a squad leader taught me some basics

I was having my doubts at why the game weighs 50 gb untill I played and realising how mind blowingly realistic the game is

[worthy charm]

The game mechanics can be overwhelming at first, but none of them are that deep.

It may be as wide as the Atlantic but only as deep as a puddle

[radiant knot]

Way more realistic than other FPS games

[worthy charm]

Yeah, its deeper than CoD or Bf, but it doesnt come close to being Squad 44.

Its in a bit of a middle spot, when it comes to realism

[radiant knot]

Most realistic one I ever played like my enemy got hit by a artilerry and his body parts fell apart

[worthy charm]

The gore animation can be a bit goofy at times😅

Someone steps on an AP mine an their body just disintegrates.

[radiant knot]

Sometimes like when I sprayed a guy (Read: My teammate ) His body fell into his legs

Why do I keep getting bombarded

I take a step and a bomb falls on me

[novel geyser]

artillery moment

try to avoid the general area its falling

[radiant knot]

How do you even chat

[worthy charm]

It should be K or T...

[shut walrus]

can anyone help me my game doesnt load up when it does it stops responding getting into a game

[radiant knot]

Finally I can chat with these boomers

[worthy charm]

What was it? Not sure if T wasnt only the key for chat in Minecraft.😅

[radiant knot]

It was K

[novel geyser]

"i" is squad chat also

C should be squad voice chat and v local
x is command chat if you're an officer

[worthy charm]

You can look into https://discord.com/channels/316459644476456962/1317236664174645309 for helpful links.

[novel geyser]

unless my binds are different

[worthy charm]

If nothing works you can still ask in #1271718922734796865.

[arctic rampart]

Smells like pc weak

[empty steppe]

Every game changes the chat key for some reason, it’s like “U and Y” in rs2

[cunning cobalt]

yo everybody

[native pebble]

Hello

[cunning cobalt]

@gentle lintelyou used to be a clan leader werent you

[gentle lintel]

absolutely not sir

they couldn't afford me

[gray garden]

he's the leader of the afternoong clan

don't believe the loies

[gentle lintel]

oh, that's true 🌞

[gray garden]

still waiting for my invitation smh my head

[gentle lintel]

christmas came early

[gray garden]

🙏 🥹

[wind shore]

@normal pasture I’m driving in the country side rn and internet is bad. Couldn’t hear yea

[wind shore]

Hello! I’m Karl the Great, and I came to visit and came to see what are you doing.

*opening twitch .

*watching stream Mortain Dusk 4-1 .

*Map was changed by the administrator .

*BrawlStars711 was kicked for TeamKilling .

*drver61 started vote kick 1/6 - ShawnLi.

[upper socket]

Hey

Can someone post this for me in suggestions please

Firstly, I would like to say that this is the best game I’ve ever played. But there are a few game mechanics that need some serious overhaul..

Jumping over obstacles - this is the bane of my life and should be a far broader allowance for when you get near an obstacle for leaping over it otherwise you get left leaping up and down in the same situation only waiting to be shot

Crawling under some obstacles - there are many areas in the game with a human being with easily cool or crouched through however for some bizarre reason it’s not possible

Human being Interference - when running in a trench if you run past individual well you simply can’t they seem to block the entire Avenue again for such a realistic game not a very realistic part.

House - it would be better if more building were accessible

But mainly - an awesome experience

[worthy charm]

You cant post it yourself?😅

[upper socket]

Says I need a tag

[wind shore]

So you chose the tag - PC or Console

[worthy charm]

#off-topic-mess-hall message

[pine ember]

When do we get Finland?

[worthy charm]

xD Soon just the answer to everything.

[radiant knot]

Finland is gonna be so cool

especially as sniper

[worthy charm]

I saw that😒

[eager crypt]

Wait , are we getting Finland? Did I miss something?

[worthy charm]

No, we arent, come down.

We all still wait on the roadmap

[eager crypt]

lol, business as usual then. Great

Good thing they hired a « dedicated » CM just so we can get the exact same level of communication as we did with just Greg…

[thin lotus]

A cm will only tell you as much as the dev knows or allows

[radiant knot]

This game cycle :
-Die after 10 seconds
-wait 50 seconds to respawn
-die after 10 seconds

[tranquil vigil]

When i'll get better in blender i'll make a hll community based fanfilm, where us medic that was told he's useless and he shouldnt exist as a medic, and a german sanitäter that was told he should get a better weapon to be more combat effective, or even get more ammo instead of morphine, meet each other and combine their forces to invent the third, more combat effective medic loadout and build the Sturmambulance (more in suggestions > Field Medic). They also invent the Red Cross symbol, so they think they are protected by Geneva Convention

[silent wyvern]

i have V-sync off and my 4070 is capped at 60fps what Lulu is going on

[worthy charm]

In game? Only the main menu should be capped at 60 FPS

[silent wyvern]

Yeah also in game

[worthy charm]

Weird...

[worthy charm]

You can look in your nividia control panel, if it is limited there as well.

There is a windows display settings that limits FPS as well.

Could also be that you changed the Steam launch properties...

I also found this: https://www.reddit.com/r/HellLetLoose/comments/pbbrvi/fix_for_that_annoying_60fps_lock_in_hll/?rdt=57345
So maybe this help.

[sturdy geyser]

hi

[wind shore]

Hello

I swear a bunch of these console guys have mnk plugged in

Cause no way you’re hitting that headshot on a moving target on your first shot at 200m out.

[worthy charm]

Now I am not 100% sure on this, but I believe there is no Mouse and keyboard support on console.

[novel geyser]

roadmap tomorrow I can feel it

[arctic rampart]

Cut down 30 of those seconds by getting a ✨ outpost ✨

[wind shore]

I suspect there is a workaround much like those who use xim in R6

[worthy charm]

Could be, im on PC so I really dont know😅

[wind shore]

I’ll likely be migrating all of my gaming to pc in a few months

Idk, I’m not dying in 10 seconds

Maybe when I played first time, but now it depends

[arctic rampart]

Correct choice

[wind shore]

You should choose your own game play style and tactics

[worthy charm]

There is no cross progression for Hll though.

[wind shore]

Yes , he is on Xbox

He would save all progression

[worthy charm]

Not if he changes onto PC

[wind shore]

It will save, on Xbox it’s Crossplay and in cloud, but only on Xbox and PC

Even if I loose it all, I’m not worried. I spent most of my beginner time as a medic… and medics are useless

[worthy charm]

I already like you xD

[wind shore]

You will keep your lvls, and main lvl, classes etc

Now I run Spotter and Officer

What’s the divagree?

Xbox - PC Microsoft always cross progress, PS5 > PC , no cross progression

Steam PC - Microsoft PC - no cross progression but cross platform

[wind shore]

It’s divisions , anyways

[covert elbow]

What’s the lotto numbers looking like?

[tall kettle]

❕** STEAM MAINTENANCE** ❕
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Tuesdays 10PM-3AM GMT
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Some players may experience the following issues during Steam's routine maintenance:

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• False Bans
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[valid talon]

We’re in March, where’s the roadmap at?

[covert elbow]

[arctic rampart]

Joke of the day: Tarkov Arena launching on Epic games xDDD

[devout frost]

🎣

[covert elbow]

The pole is T17 and the fish is the 2025 roadmap

[flint belfry]

Ho guys

[arctic rampart]

Then that's a meat-less fish

[flint belfry]

Guys, I have a question. I'm still learning how to play this game and I'm slowly getting the hang of it, but there's one question that's important to me, how do I use the commander in Firimg Range? How to use his commands, I just wanted to test how it works, but there is simply no commander role, only an officer, can you tell me if it is possible to somehow use the commander's opportunities in firing range?

[covert elbow]

You can’t

[arctic rampart]

Yep, not gonna be possible

[flint belfry]

I just don't want to get lost and not understand what to do when I reach level 35 and can finally play as a commander, thereby ruining the game for the team most likely.

[arctic rampart]

1. Don't play commander.
2. For educational purposes, check the abilities visually here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zn2qn724BNE

And turn the table any way you want, but you're not gonna be able to fill the shoes of a commander with the game experience of a level 35

[flint belfry]

I play as an officer very well, and I do it just fine as an engineer, but as for how to play as him, I don’t want to just watch long video explanations, but instead I can play it myself calmly figure out how his role works without ruining anyone's game

[arctic rampart]

If you're not even level 35, I am VEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEERY HIGHLY doubting you're playing officer anywhere near very well

[flint belfry]

It's strange that I can even put marks in the fire range for an officer where to throw bombs, etc, but I can't do it simply

[arctic rampart]

imo, you should play officer only starting like level 40 or 50 and then command at like 80 or 90

And that's like bare minimum fulfillment of responsibilities. Still miles from optimal

[flint belfry]

I started playing a week ago almost every day, and I really play well, I just often don't have time to play a lot, although I know how to place outposts or even garrisons correctly, put the correct labels, etc.

[arctic rampart]

I mean cool, but point still stands

[flint belfry]

I understand my duties as an officer well, and in all my battles I fulfilled them, I was even praised more than once for being surprisingly good for my level

[ebon fable]

Just join an official server and try it out

This game isn’t that complicated

[flint belfry]

I don't want to ruin anyone's game, I just want to try it out and I'm not level 35

[ebon fable]

Dont listen to people talking about levels like it matters either if it takes you 100+ levels to figure out how to play its cuz ur challenged

[past vortex]

watch some videos

[ebon fable]

I’m sure you’d do fine man just build garries and ur better than 90%

[past vortex]

otherwise you will have no idea

[flint belfry]

I know I have a pretty good tactical mind, it often happened that the team didn't listen to me when I spoke to do something, or vice versa not to do something, and they did it anyway, and it turns out I'm right

[past vortex]

look at valhalla yt, he has some dedicated commander show offs with all the tricks

[ebon fable]

Well I would avoid trying to tell anyone else what to do , u can make some suggestions but mostly ur job on a pub is just to build garries and use your abilities

[flint belfry]

I know it doesn't mean that much in reality, I've seen commanders like that with levels 70-90 and they were terrible

[arctic rampart]

You can test out abilities in an empty server anywhere, it's not that difficult.

And whilst levels aren't a perfect method for showcasing ones skill, especially due to BoB bozos running around.
The fact still remains that people lack experience before jumping in boots too big to fill only resulting in many small mistakes which end up costing matches.

There's a reason a sigh is let out every time you see a commander sub 70 jump in the slot. No matter if they yap little or alot, if they do the drops or not. You just know they do not have the knowledge to make the calls

[flint belfry]

By my logic, as an officer I am responsible for my team and their lives, and I don't want them to waste their abilities and roles.

What people often do

While I am a "fool" thinking up a strategy, I suggest, and once they listened to me, we made a really good attack and won that game

[past vortex]

sounds bad :}

[flint belfry]

I just got a good team, and the commander listened to me and really did his job, he helped me a lot when I asked him to.

[past vortex]

wrong way around

[arctic rampart]

I swear these mfers the type to drop a defensive bombing run on friendly point when the enemy's already capped it like 80%

[ebon fable]

Expecting a coordinated team in a pub is going to leave you disappointed most of the time

[arctic rampart]

Depends when you play

[flint belfry]

Actually, I want to thank you for your support.

[past vortex]

and where

[flint belfry]

Thank you

[past vortex]

lol

bottom line: pls dont

[arctic rampart]

Me and the lads jump on usually closer to EU peak time, so we expect most games to be decent and they are decent from a comms perspective

If I jump in at like 1pm on a work-day, all I have are epic kids who decided to cut their 6th grade classes and grief my game

So nailing down the time and the location (obviously being decent community servers) highly increases the probability of good games

[ebon fable]

If you want to play actual coordinated hell let loose I suggest you look for a clan to play some fully organized matches, no pub gameplay comes close to matching it.

[arctic rampart]

Yes they do

[past vortex]

yesterday i had a drunk commander late at night who was so high level that he did a good job despite talking shitfaced otherwise

:D

[arctic rampart]

I've played my fair share of organized skrims and a few proper comp games as well

[slate canopy]

Mostly clan but I get it in pubs too. I have had a community server where I was commander, got 0 kills (even with bombing runs and strafes) and my team was SUPER coordinated, I just provided them stuff

[ebon fable]

Riiight 😂

[slate canopy]

I did. You can doubt all you want. I am sure I have a screen shot (on my phone, working out right now)

[past vortex]

2 or 3 good squadleads and the commander just has to press the buttons when asked

[ebon fable]

Some SLs talking = Comp game apparently

[arctic rampart]

More or less yeah, happens sometimes too

[past vortex]

the hard part is when you got to do it alone, thats really stressful

[arctic rampart]

Either you're baiting hard rn or deadas$ delusional, I can't tell which

[slate canopy]

I had 3 tank crews and most of the SLs talk. It was so good. 😭

[flint belfry]

Oh, and I also wanted to know that I have already tried to take the role of a sniper more than once, but even when it was supposed to come out, it only said "Not available", despite the fact that this role was available, why?

[past vortex]

you need a spotter

[arctic rampart]

Or the role was taken by a previously kicked sniper that was still alive on the battlefield

[flint belfry]

He was, and it still showed that the sniper role was unavailable.

Like, it was literally at the very beginning of the battle, when the battle hadn’t even started yet, I asked the person that I wanted to take the role of a sniper, he changed his role to a spotter, and it said “Not available.”

[slate canopy]

If he kicked a guy and that guy didn't die, he still had the sniper role

[arctic rampart]

Yup, most likely the thing that happened

[flint belfry]

And this has happened many times, more than once

[flint belfry]

Crap

[arctic rampart]

Unless it's some new bug that all of a sudden has appeared, no.
There's only those 2 conditions under which you cannot take the role

[flint belfry]

Well, I'll try next time.

[flint belfry]

Maybe I also thought it was a bug, because it was strange

And the sniper's place was free

[slate canopy]

I have had to TK my sniper (I kicked because no comms) so I could get the guy off sniper role

[past vortex]

nasty

[arctic rampart]

Yeah, when they try and play like stereotypical movie sniper and do jack nothing from like 2 grids away xD

[flint belfry]

A person specially freed it for me, and not just one person, but they simply did not accept me as a sniper, although I am the best sniper in almost all games where there is a sniper rifle, I love it

[torpid torrent]

👍

[past vortex]

the sniper would have died on his own eventually.....

[flint belfry]

I overdo it, but I consider myself a worthy sniper, and I can wait a long time if necessary.

[arctic rampart]

You'd think that, but they play like it's a 1-life ARMA 3 event

[slate canopy]

I don't like to TK but I literally had no choice because it was like 10-15 minutes.

[past vortex]

!admin

[cyan saddle]

banned

[past vortex]

!admin polarbear intentional tk

:}

[arctic rampart]

Turns out our friendly neighbourhood pee colored mod is a TKer

What was the original topic? The commander stuff, right?

[past vortex]

had a SL go tk our own arty yesterday

they didnt listen, i still dont agree

[arctic rampart]

Had a lvl 44 commander yday, call in a bombing run over chunk of 20 friendlies to get autobanned

Mid-day game on 13SNC. Quite the something that match

[past vortex]

really is that an autoban?

[arctic rampart]

It's not a perm I don't think.

It's like the auto 1 hour or whatever short period ban that it does when you get too many TK's in a short period

[past vortex]

i had like 15 tks one time when i satcheled a tank (ofc i called it out) and it drove around a hedge

didnt get kicked

[arctic rampart]

da fuq

[past vortex]

maybe it depends on the amount of punishments ?

[arctic rampart]

I've seen people get like 5 tk's in one go and get auto banned for a short period

[arctic rampart]

Can't be, because it happens instantly the infraction occurs

Just like when they were to throw an HE in the transport at the start of the game

[past vortex]

maybe its a server setting ?

[slate canopy]

It's a 1 hour ban usually

[past vortex]

yea 1h

[slate canopy]

Some will warn you if too many TKs.

[past vortex]

yea had that, never got kicked

[arctic rampart]

The server owner configuration amount that's possible seems so miniscule and jank that it's hard to tell about anything in regards to configs

[past vortex]

my theory was that the tk limit somehow doesnt apply if its a single event

but now idk

[arctic rampart]

Anyways, back to OT.
Probably gonna head off soon, but for the next lvl 10 guy walking in here:

Don't play a SL position until you properly know what's going on (lvl ~40-50 MINIMUM).
And for sure don't touch the commander seat until you understand how SL works and then some.
If you're really asking for it, then consider it around 80-90

[past vortex]

well id really like to know how it works

[cursive cloud]

anyone playing?

[arctic rampart]

#pc-looking-for-unit

[cursive cloud]

thx

[arctic rampart]

Absolutely no one is playing, unalived game. Only a few thousand people spread across a hundred or more servers.

[cursive cloud]

makes sense.

[wind shore]

Found an interesting thing : on Mortain dawn, there is a stripe from modern plane on the skybox

[tall kettle]

❕** STEAM MAINTENANCE NOW ENDING** ❕
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Tuesdays 6PM-9PM EST
Tuesdays 10PM-3AM GMT
Wednesdays 8AM-11AM AEST

Steam maintenance has now ended but some issues may still remain until a game restart

• EAC Notifications
• False Bans
• No Servers Showing
• Player Level Resets

[frank magnet]

I was killed by my commander while capping the next point.

I was solo capping. No enemies around and commander decider to drop a bombing run.

He said he's still learning the game.

[slate canopy]

Unlucky, but keep an eye on that map and the sound of the planes

[frank magnet]

I literally heard the plane and was like ain't no way he's gonna do that

[azure pasture]

anyone run a hell let loose server?

[shy walrus]

Getting kicked only occurs if the people you killed punish you. Therefore if you get 5 tks and all 5 people punish you, you will be kicked. However if none of them choose to punish you then you just have 5 and can continue to get more. If 5 people punish you without you being tkd or redeploying then it will be kicked. The game automatically gives +10 seconds for a tk, but that does not automatically add the the punishment counter.

Therefore making my most in 1 game (we were knife fighting) without getting kicked 71 because nobody was punishing me

Lol

[rigid lintel]

These queues suck! I can't even choose a matchmaking region!

[past vortex]

you can sort by ping

[slate canopy]

Because they are all available to everyone around the world... based on ping.

[past vortex]

thats very much a region filter

[rigid lintel]

Thank you!

[shy walrus]

Does PC only have private servers or do you also have the true pub matchmaking still?

[slate canopy]

It's just a server browser, no way to just hop into a random game by clicking a single button.

[shy walrus]

Ah, that kinda sucks. So you have to wait in a queue if you don't have VIP

[rigid lintel]

I thought there was a way to use push-to-talk, but I guess not.

[slate canopy]

There is push to talk 🤔

[rigid lintel]

Weird, it kept picking up my mouse.

[slate canopy]

X for command chat (commander, squad leads, spotters, tank commander only)

C is squad, V is proximity

(For defaults)

[rigid lintel]

Is it a toggle?

Because it seemed like my microphone was automatically unmuuted.

[slate canopy]

not a toggle, literally hold to talk.

Sometimes there is a glitch of open mic for someone at the beginning of the game, but otherwise you shouldn't have that issue.

[past vortex]

also happens mid game :/

[rigid lintel]

Oh, that's what it was!

[slate canopy]

I've never seen it mid game, but maybe it does? 🤷‍♀️

[past vortex]

i see it regularly

one of the things that make me glad i got it for free :}

kinda crazy that it is no kind of priority for the devs....

[slate canopy]

I'm fine with paying for it so 🤷‍♀️ Whatever.

Well, VOIP is not done by HLL. That's a different company.

[past vortex]

the activation is certainly done by the game

[prisma bramble]

I’m glad I paid for the game lol helped fund it to get to the stage it’s at now

Only 50$ too when I got it wasn’t like it was a 80$ game

[covert elbow]

It’s $50 currently. It used to be $40

[prisma bramble]

i got it liike 3 years ago

[covert elbow]

Ah

[viscid vine]

[slate canopy]

I got it 3 years ago too.... but for $28. lol It was on sale at the time.

[wind shore]

How does one get officer role

[slate canopy]

You make an infrantry squad.

[wind shore]

Well in game obviously

I mean in the server

[slate canopy]

in THIS server?

[wind shore]

Si

[slate canopy]

You can go to #class-select for it

[wind shore]

Ah thank you

[lusty quail]

Hi new to the game anyone able to teach?

[slate canopy]

I suggest watching this video: #telegrams message

Otherwise, there are lots of guides in #1273828697941606450 . May be able to find folks to play with #pc-looking-for-unit

I believe @maiden skiff helps new folks too. Keep an eye out for them or DM them.

[lusty quail]

Thankyou

[topaz scroll]

The causeway and african map are awful

Never had a good experience on those maps

[worthy charm]

So the second one is Tobruk, which can be bad for infantry, but what do you mean with causeway?😅

[topaz scroll]

I believe it’s the Carentan Causeway.

The one that’s flooded.

Those two maps are awful. I get it, realism. But holy hell they’re bad

[worthy charm]

purple heart lane? The one with the main road down the middle of the map?

[topaz scroll]

Yup, and it’s basically just nonstop death

[worthy charm]

Carentan is just a big city and one of the few urban combat map we got.

[topaz scroll]

Pretty sure it’s supposed to be basically on the way to Carentan but I don’t particularly remember the exact path of the 101st from BoB.

But anyway, yeah terrible maps. I’m sure every single map is enjoyable if your team is organized, but that doesn’t happen a lot in public lobbies lol

[solar crow]

Terrible for offensive

[topaz scroll]

Definitely lmao

[solar crow]

so hard to set up garries can't even take supply trucks cause there's only 1 main road

if u take any other road u might end up drowning

[topaz scroll]

Whoever doesn’t take the objective first is gonna eat doodoo for an hour

[real parrot]

PHL is cool

Great map for learning how to tank, but the fences at the road that doesn't render and can stop your bullets can mess things up

[arctic rampart]

I prefer PHL over Al Alamein, but when they said they made PHL easier to traverse, it was a straight up lie

You still cannot properly traverse with a tank nor' a light vehicle across the map w/o getting stuck EVERYWHERE. Obviously excluding logical places like foxholes and just super deep water.

But driving a supp truck over a small water ditch shouldn't require diagonal driving

[real parrot]

That's actually a common problem with HLl, the worst maps are the forest ones

Not only does everything stop your tank but your bullets too, it's so anticlimactic and annoying to get stuck because a half meter tall rock wall stopped your 40 tons tank

Or a tree

[arctic rampart]

Kind of. I can drive fine through the forests of Hurtgen or hill 400. There it's more about the incosistency with models and their collisions with the trucks.
But on PHL it's the actual map geometry

[covert elbow]

Not to mention how some maps have really terrible hitboxes so your bullets are stopped by air

[past veldt]

Hurtgen Forest driving is fine. Most trees you can drive through

[covert elbow]

Ngl I wish they would make either all objected passable or no objects passable

It’s annoying to play a guessing game everytime I drive

[real parrot]

This fr, in Kursk for example there are houses that don't render at 500 meters and you can see tanks that you can't hit because there is a whole as house in the way

[covert elbow]

Not even that

[real parrot]

And don't get me started with Stalingrad

[covert elbow]

Elsenborne and Mortain have this really bad but you’ll be shooting around a tree and you bullets just get blocked because the hitbox is wider then the trees model

[real parrot]

The palm trees of El Alamein

[covert elbow]

Yeaaaa

[real parrot]

They have the hitbox of an aircraft carrier

And the leaves stop tank bullets

Truly and immersive experience getting my 8.8cm shell stopped by the phantom of the leaf from a palm tree

[covert elbow]

It’s so stupid

And sloppy most of all

[arctic rampart]

Pretty high chance they just made the model (or bought it) then instantly letting UE generate the hitbox instead of making it themselves, resulting in those THICK hitboxes

[solar crow]

Bro why the fack can't we drop supplies at the last point offensive gamemmode

how tf do I fortify bruh

[arctic rampart]

Supports, commander

[covert elbow]

That’s the neat part. You don’t!

We can’t have nodes in the HQ now can we

[solar crow]

if it's for balance purposes there should be a limit on how many boxes can be dropped for the last point

or instead of 150 supps in the box maybe 75 or something

cause the only way I can make fortifications is if I cross into the red zone and drop but I get instantly obliterated by an mg

[real parrot]

Use support, end of history

[covert elbow]

Nah you just don’t understand the genius behind BM’s balancing

[solar crow]

cmon now you know how players in this game are

can't rely on supports

[real parrot]

That's a community problem actually

[solar crow]

it's always gonna be like that

at best maybe 2 supports can help but that's not enough

[real parrot]

There are many things that are bad in this game but that, it's just mildly annoying

[solar crow]

idk it just doesn't make sense at least decrease how many supplies are in the box

even 50 would be fine since it's so close to the hq

just need a steady stream of supplies, can't rely on support and commander drop cd

[covert elbow]

No it’s bad

[solar crow]

U can thougu it's so dumb

for some reason u csn drop supplies at middle hq I don't understand lol

[covert elbow]

Forgot to add the /s

[analog apex]

the devs are forcing it this way so it wouldn't be abused, otherwise everybody would build all the nodes right away in the HQ
however it's only because the devs have been lazy at implementing some advantage of having the nodes on the frontline so they wouldn't need such stupid forced restriction at HQ to begin with 😬

currently, the nodes are just a chore as it doesn't affect anything on the frontline directly

[real parrot]

Make the nods give you a morale boost while in which you can phase through hitbox

[analog apex]

more like... make the nodes have larger range, like 150m or 200m instead of the current 50 - and affect all the spawnpoints and/or players in their range
like...

• players who die within the range of the manpower node, would not drain the manpower resource
• only the players who spawn on a spawnpoint within the ammo node, would be able to spawn and rearm, otherwise persistent ammo (to carry from one life to the next life)
• tanks/vehicles which get destroyed within the fuel node range, would return 20% of their fuel spawnCost back to the fuel resource pool

[real parrot]

Skill issue tbh

[analog apex]

yep, on the devs' part xD

there are so many ways of how to make the nodes useful

[real parrot]

Yup xd

[analog apex]

and maybe...

• a red-zone garrison within both the manpower node and ammo node at the same time, would get disabled the same way as if it was a blue-zone one (and not with anybody within 100m anymore)

[novel geyser]

The entire logistics and spawn system of hll can really be summed up to “chore”

[covert elbow]

It’s not even a rewarding or worthwhile chore tbh

It just doesn’t suit the game

[analog apex]

only if one wants to play the commander or play the arty... or tanks
the rest of the team (like 85-90% players) doesn't need to care as the nodes don't affect them at all

[covert elbow]

There’s a reason why resource management is saved for single player games

[covert elbow]

Yes

I bet you though if they just made it so you get a flat like 45 a minute and get rid of nodes completely no one would notice

[ornate pasture]

what if you switch classes before deploying?

[analog apex]

considering the current circumstances, agreed
but personally I would rather have the nodes and them to be useful on the frontline via certain bonuses (or via maluses preventions)

a flat (node-less) resource income is something more for the SKIRMISH imo, not for the main gamemodes

[analog apex]

with that there is connected another thing I would implement

• a cooldown for the class/loadout switch to avoid the spam and abusement (let's say 10minutes while dying outside the ammo node and without restrictions when dying inside its range... or... something like that). So, that way the player could do it 1x for free but then he would lock himself with a loadout or class he didn't actually want, at least unless he gets to the ammo node range.

I never liked how chameleon-like the players in HLL can be - enter open area, everybody can have suddenly rifles. They get to the town, they can suddenly have SMGs all. Without any negative stuff for switching back and forth if done too fast more times.

[viscid vine]

what would a whole match of survived HLL be in real life terms, assuming you are as athletic and skilled as the character in-game, like would that be the equivalent of surviving a day on the eastern front or something? Or is HLL too arcade-like to compare the two

[delicate mortar]

That's not true at all.. There are dozens of multiplayer games that relies on managing resources for you and your team.
Logistic is one of the most important part of a well fought war.
Neglecting it from a gamedesign perspective is absurd.

[novel geyser]

Not sure I'd like a cool down for class switches
Rather they roll back the auto weapon spam. Make the role loadouts more similar to the brits since they have more bolt actions that the other factions it seems

[real parrot]

That's bri'ish issue

[covert elbow]

*that’s a British solution

[real parrot]

At least its not French

[novel geyser]

Like assault grenadier loadout for brits gets a bolt action while the US get a Thompson and the Germans and soviets get a semi auto
Be more like the brits, be modest

[covert elbow]

Be cool to have the French ngl

[worthy charm]

Pacific first

[analog apex]

then I could think of another way of prevent abusing rearming via changing the class, like this:

Preconditions:

• player would need to select the spawnpoint first, and he would get access to the class/loadout menu only then
• there would be 2 deploy buttons - "Deploy" and "Rearm & deploy" to keep the player in control

Effects:

• spawning with rearming on the spawnpoint outside the ammo node, would drain -10 ammo from the team's ammunition resource, free within the ammo node

[delicate mortar]

Before or after the roadmap?

[real parrot]

Nah, make it drain supply ammo, like in squad

[novel geyser]

I want them to add the Pacific but have it be the British commonwealth vs Japan and never add the US marines

[covert elbow]

I don’t see the point here in making it cost resources or punish players for switching classes

[analog apex]

the ammo cost could be derived of the total ammo/equipment used so it wouldn't really be a punishment, rather than normal ammo resource drain

[novel geyser]

I kinda understand it
Could also split roles into different squad types
So you have AT squads and engineering squads for example

Separate from frontline Infantry

[analog apex]

something many of us were asking for during the HLL's history... ignored fully by the devs in each instance of course

[novel geyser]

Yyyup lol

[covert elbow]

Much rather just have it so outposts don’t give any resupply and garrison’s do or need something like a node to resupply. Or even make it so garrisons have tiers and 2nd tier resupply a

[covert elbow]

Been begging it for a year now

[analog apex]

that would bring us again for the nodes to be useless, while their presence is quite logical... just badly implemented as the chore

[covert elbow]

Yep

[analog apex]

the resource nodes should be the influencers of the players ammo and manpower-affecting... comes quite naturally too

not the spawnpoint types themselves alone

[real parrot]

🗣️

[analog apex]

well supplied frontline would be much harder to beat than a badly supplied one (without nodes, the players would need to rely just on the ammo boxes for rearming for instance)

...
but the best way imo would be if the spawnpoins would be storing local manpower and ammunition inside them - when depleted of manpower, they would get disabled (garries) or disappear and go on cooldown on top of it (OPs)

• players would be spending the spawnpoint's local manpower to be able to spawn in the 1st place

• the local ammunition inside the spawnpoint would be used for deploy rearmed and for the class switches

• garrisons would get refreshed back to full local stuff automatically every ~10 minutes. And if within the nodes' range, then just ~5 minutes.

• ammo boxes would be used to fight the ammunition drain from the spawnpoint

• **medics **would be used to fight the local manpower drain (and reward it with like +3 local manpower into it for each revival)

• **the commander **would be able to transfer the team's global manpower and ammunition into a selected garrison via some of his new power

[novel geyser]

I would quite like that tbh

[real parrot]

Ah yes, squad

[novel geyser]

Anything to stop the meatgrinder

Death needs to hold weight in this game more than just wasting time

[covert elbow]

It’s also bad how dying is actually a benefit to you and your team

[analog apex]

yep, doesn't make sense

[novel geyser]

Redeploy meta also needs to go I think

Make transport more useful outside of the round start

Somehow

[covert elbow]

Get rid of outposts

The more I think about it the more I realize it’s nessecary

[analog apex]

in the system I propose, redeploying could cost even more of the spawnpoint's local manpower and ammunition, to make one think twice if to abuse it

the thing is that the players usually don't care if the stuff doesn't affect them directly, but this would do pretty much
that's the reason why in games where there are tickets, players don't care until the ticket go low enough

[oak current]

do you also have a suggestion on how to get people to build spawns?

[novel geyser]

Would need to ensure there's a big disclaimer before you redeploy
Or maybe a cooldown so people don't spam it to ruin a match

[covert elbow]

… the same way it’s done now?

[analog apex]

by adding the mandatory tutorial scenarios - the players usually don't build them spawnpoints because they don't know, in most cases (they don't know how or that they are able to do it as they don't know the capabilities of the leadership classes)

[oak current]

the older players build it or leave the server? or just no garries?

[covert elbow]

.

If that’s what you mean

[oak current]

[analog apex]

yep guys... everything bad in HLL is connected and makes the experience even worse when combined

without the tutorials (mandatory ones!), no matter how simple/difficult the game's mechanics would be, the players just won't learn without them obviously

[finite berry]

Mandatory tutorials isn't something T17 would ever do, unfortunately

[analog apex]

well they have kept promising us that 2025 will be a great one for HLL... so let's hope they will move their asses that direction xD

[covert elbow]

That can be said for literally anything

[covert elbow]

Give it I got month 3 btw

Think we’ll get it by the 15th?

[analog apex]

(meanwhile... 3rd month starts and no 2025 roadmap yet) 😄

[analog apex]

no idea, since it is being late by 1 and half a month+, already

but yeah that would be my estimate as well

[novel geyser]

And we are totally gonna get the roadmap today

[finite berry]

Yeah, starting with a roadmap

[covert elbow]

3 months tbh Greg said we’d get it December/ January

[finite berry]

Some games have mandatory tutorials, because they either force you to do them or they are a stand-alone level.

[analog apex]

yep I remember, and checked all the previous statements about the roadmap and how it was pushing back again and again

so sad

[oak current]

Reactions when roadmaps comes out:

• This is so bad, nobody wants any of these features/things. boo
• Theres so much amazing stuff on this - theres no way they are gonna do this/ they'll mess it up. boo
• The thing I wanted isnt on it. boo

[covert elbow]

Thus absolutely needs a mandatory tutorial. I tried out ROS2 and having that their to guide me through the mechanics was really nice

[finite berry]

True 😄

[analog apex]

😄 hehe yeah something long those lines because we all have known what to expect and in what quality with HLL under Team17's management

[covert elbow]

You forgot one

• This is almost the exact same as last time why did it take you guys this long to make this

[finite berry]

It does, but that'd deter potential players

[novel geyser]

With how much the roadmap is being pushed back it better be a big year for hll

[covert elbow]

Good. If they don’t want to go through the tutorial I don’t want them playing the game

[covert elbow]

Considering previous experience, dev times, and the fact we’ve gotten little to no content in the past 4 months I wouldn’t hold your breath

[analog apex]

would add 1 more possible outcome

• this roadmap is so underwhelming as the 2024 was xD

[finite berry]

I agree, but that's not something T17 would like to see. They want paying customers, not skilled players.

[covert elbow]

At this point they should just cancel the roadmap if it’s this hard for them

[oak current]

ah I would have put that under the first listed thing

[novel geyser]

They scared to release it

Maybe they're delaying it because the amount of content won't fit the full year

[oak current]

"fit"

[analog apex]

yep, they don't seem to care about the long-term players, they just need the short term ones to shuffle every 2 weeks to keep the income in for the sold copies

[covert elbow]

insert 2023 roadmap here

How much was on that map again? Didn’t like half of it never get done?

[analog apex]

yeah quite a lot... considering the OBJECTIVE mode with 101s DLC, Finnish, Polish

[oak current]

wasnt that the one where people did the massive lashback and they stopped all work to focus on other things that people screamed for?

[novel geyser]

They canned most of it because of the trailer™️

[covert elbow]

Wait no not that one, the 2022 one

If I had a nickel…

[analog apex]

aaah right I guess I mistook them... or you did xD

[worthy charm]

AA Tanks?🥹

[oak current]

that was the 2021/2022 roadmap

[covert elbow]

No they got screamed at because of the trailer and then T17 had massive lay offs. That was the real issue

Oh whoop wait no

Wrong roadmap

[analog apex]

party system, campaign mode

[oak current]

...so massive lashback and stopped

[analog apex]

2022 one was by Black Matter yet, their last one they didn't finish either

[covert elbow]

It was the layoffs that stopped it, not as much the feedback

[covert elbow]

That’s right

[oak current]

oh pardon I didnt meant "due to the" I meant "during the"

[solar crow]

I thought the road map was gonna be released end of January? What's going on

[oak current]

during that year, trailer came out, massive lashback (+layoffs) then roadmap stopped

[covert elbow]

So

• 2022 roadmap of BM not finishing
• 2023 roadmap where T17 got laid off and the trailer
• 2024 roadmap had so little it was a dead year
• 2025 “profit”

[analog apex]

the 2023 one was the Team17's one they scratched away in the middle of it

[covert elbow]

[analog apex]

shame because in December 2023, we were supposed to get the "New tutorial system"

[covert elbow]

That roadmap was dead as soon as it released lmao

[solar crow]

shame

[covert elbow]

They even had that live action interview with the devs lmao

Then bam! Nuttin

[oak current]

...I laughed at that line 😄

[solar crow]

ambatun

[oak current]

I might be a child

[covert elbow]

I aim to please

[analog apex]

alss we were supposed to get "New clan system" (whatever it was)

[oak current]

new clan system was to remove Sam from Circle

[covert elbow]

Oh yea the party system

[solar crow]

The what

[covert elbow]

Can someone post the 2022 roadmap real quick?

[analog apex]

nah, I left The Circle in December of 2024, not 2023 😄

[oak current]

speaking off, I saw Circle is back

[covert elbow]

What’s that

[solar crow]

jerk

[oak current]

system was just acting very early

[analog apex]

more like too late by 1 year

[oak current]

Competitive Community that Sam was part of

[covert elbow]

Ah

[oak current]

they did also some fancy features, like the Killfeed overlay

[analog apex]

I would still play the comp, but I was forced to leave it fully as the comp important matches usually happen Sunday evenings when I need to go to bed earlier due the work now.

😦

[oak current]

pfff, weak. having a job and a life... you nerd probably even have a healthy diet! Haha..ha... cries in pillow

[analog apex]

how did you know?! 😄
because I rly do 😃

[oak current]

its my x-men superpower. I can see if people have healthy diets

I'm a very pointless x-men

jokes aside though - thats why I enjoyed 18vs18 back in the day. during the week, a fun lil pew pew match

[analog apex]

you wouldn't say so if you looked upon me though
still trying to get rid of the tire from my belly lol

[oak current]

you took the "circle" part very seriously in Circle, didnt you?

[analog apex]

yep, I went full circle and became clan-less like at the beginning

but again, just because I don't have the time for it anymore, nor for the trainings... which would make pointless to be in the actual big matches too

was just taking away way too much time from me and impossible to keep it up when I got the new job

so... these days I am "just" decently punishing the pub players in the pub matches 😄

[still sapphire]

does anyone else level up at the end of the match and then go back to the same level the next? this has happened every round for like 5 rounds

[analog apex]

yep, we have been hearing it in this and other channels/threads from time to time

latest one #1342880832213483660 message

[karmic osprey]

Hi

[analog apex]

if the devs at lesat were reading the bug reports or suggestions and respond in any way like

• yeah we will look into this
• no, save your breath we are not planning any of this
• we can take this or that from it
• etc.

they are just being quiet

There is no worse feeling than the feeling of talking to a wall in this discord.

[arctic rampart]

Yep, that's why I dont suggest anything anymore

I don't do it anywhere either, essentially no games, since I can count maybe 3 times when someone actually gave a damn when writing up a proper suggestion.
2 out of those 3 times, it was on non-official communities. Only once was it an actual dev who cared

[worthy charm]

Based😅 😂

[oak current]

based was I-Agree, right? I'm too old for new words. I'm only young enough to sit in a garden and yell at kids who are playing on my lawn

[grim night]

there are still some games were the devs care

[novel geyser]

Based on what?

[wind shore]

just started this game, how often does it get updates?

[finite berry]

No