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lol ok
Can’t wait till they add aircraft and warships
they won't, ever
It’s in the roadmap
there is no roadmap
yet
and it was not in any of the previous ones either
What did you smoke and which roadmap did you look at?
me?
wrong tag I assume
Sry
Just a little nutmeg and the one the elf in my pantry showed me
Probably the one with remagen boats 😅
yeah youre right
Why you scaring people?
While my appierence isnt the most beuatiful one i would say im ugly enough to scare people.🥲
xD just kidding
I'm watching a Tobruk stream rn
The patch notes for this flamethrower buff is unironically funny as hell
The church tower looks like the perfect spot for a scoped kar98
Not about this
they are as funny as they are sad
Like if there’s anything more needed to show how out of touch the team is lol
Goodness me, the flamethrower is now SAVED
Ammocrates might be the funniest
I don't get how they even dare to publish such news statement without any shame
not the best display of the new CM either
Ah meh' Benny boy's got nothing much to do with it. He's got like 5 games under his belt, maybe soon another 5. Then he'll understand why we're memeing the flamethrower destroying ammo crates
well, he is the official full time HLL CM now, isn't he? At least that's what we were promised to get.
So I expect a much higher frequency of the engagement with community and news-making from him.
but from how it has looked, he seems to regard his HLL community management just as a job, the same as Greg had been, without any real pasion for the game or playing it
Besides the posts, which are cool ig.
He's just in here PR talking 😄
Just make sure he never utters "watch this space"
I would post a gif about walking through a mine field, but it's still the DPRK in here
Why did I get steam achievements called "??" "???" "????" "?????" has anyone else got these
New achievements for Tobruk
Where the patch nots at
But i haven't even played on it yet
The achievements are for the map
And because the map isn't out yet, there are ??? set as placeholders for the achievements
No for real I’m looking for the server that would have then n can’t find it lol
I see you are an xbox player
the HLL PTEs run on Steam
only the Steam players have access to the HLL PTE client I believe
It was just truck damage and nodes damage, that’s all
Nodes are gonna get raped now
not rly... nto that many flamethrowers ever around. Unless some OP is built next to enemy nodes so one can redeploy as one.
Just redeploy and walk over
You can get the flamethrower by like 20 mins in bobs server no?
and then again... it's definitely faster to destroy the nodes with satchel when it comes to the time taken for the player required actions to do it
Flamethrower: redeploy as one -> get to the nodes -> stay there to press and hold fire button for god knows how long before killing all 3 nodes > redeploy back
Satchel loadout: redeploy as one -> plant satchel -> redeploy back immediately, no need to stay there
Satchel is definitely king
It's definitely still a highly specialised, and hard to use, tool the flamethrower, but a bit of added utility should at least make it slightly more viable tool
Flamethrower useless. Why i should just break game mechanics with it? It’s same as garrisons burning, nothing interesting. Just garrisons disappear “OH HOW COOL, Table dissapear! What’s cool things fm makes!”
The satchel will always be king no doubt. But I'm hoping there will be more improvements to the flamethrower in the future
Oh the tent burnt ! Or fuel station just burned! Cool . (no)
It's a fkgn flamethrower Shoot fire, Burn people, shoot fire, ... What more do you want?
"hope"
well, I have hoped for many things to get better in HLL,... they haven't in years
(they actually got worse... usually)
I want to use it against enemy in combat, not friendlies
That's your problem, aim better.
That’s not my problem if it can’t reach 23m sometimes and only it’s enough to shoot friendlies
The flamethrower is a personal favorite so for the average flamethrower enjoyer it at least gives them something else to burn
- better range and/or physics for the fire stream
- no need to brace to fire
- (at least some limited) fire spread by itself
I would like an extra 5 meters on its range though
The usual distance for friendly infantry it’s close to 20 metres, but to meet enemy on that distance it could be situative
It's all about burning people
Suppression too would be nice
If you can burn people at a greater distance it would be better, that's true.
it is... and? the points I listed are legit
☝️
Gotta' love the new guys. Always crack me up
It could be useful now only on 1 map, Hürtgen night
The physics would be hard to implement i think but the other points are interesting
it wouldn't need to be using actual physics, just a curved fire stream or something in that sense - a simplistic physics
Flamethrowers is sh*t
Ah, doesn't it already have an arc?
nope
well... it disappears in the air without the firing fluid landing on the ground
That really needs to be fixed.
It doesn't make sense
yep it doesn't
So really wasting here discussing sh***y gun, gonna go to play test
Wasting hours on sh** things like flamethrowers
I'm from ps5
Ah interesting, I agree i think it should have a full arc
Discussing things is cool
yep many times asked about it, but now the devs decided to do something with it
they just did it in the most wrong way possible as they didn't touch the behavior of the flamethrower or of the fire at all
hence the reason for discussing it again... now
Better to abounds this topic until the roadmap and next map
Just need a dev with an infatuation for fire 🔥
Quick question, anyone had any loss of RP progress? i've been trying to level up sniper, I was on 80,000 out of 110, 000 for level 5 and it's gone down after about 10 games as sniper to 16,000, any ideas?
I had a bit of normal level issues a while back, but since then it's magically disappeared. Besides that, nothing in regards to role xp
just 1 idea we all have known about - HLL has been a broken game in many regards
I believe we have seen the XP problems a while back so I am (actually not) surprised they haven't fixed it yet
is there Tobruk skirmish also?
Yes, just not in the PTE.
I do not fancy SKIRMISH, but I am surprised the Soviets have no SKIRMISH "map" at all yet
I’m about weather , I thought it had different weather on Tobruk
Dusk also , dawn I have seen
Also I want to see night Tobruk
Don't give them ideas
I Never play skirmish
Or better yet, whatever we ask them they don't do, let's ask them for things we don't want.
But would love to see night Tobruk also
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youre welcome
the character gibbing is still broken womp womp
Have any of you actually... used the flame thrower? Its a complete waste of a weapon.
He was playing in the PTE earlier lol
Its the hardest weapon specific unlock in the game, has absolutely no redeeming factors, has shorter range than a shotgun, slow moving fire, inconsistent hit register, and a nearly 3 second brace time.
And despite all that, I still have the achievements for 100 kills with it, and 20 in a round. I am the authoritative source on all matters flame thrower and I can absolutely confirm that having the ability to break nodes will not increase its usefulness at all
It needs either:
- Remove the brace time and allow it to fire 'hip'
- Increase the speed of the flames and range
- Reduce it to a level 3 or 5 unlock and increase the after burn
@fluid pawn I have given you the choices, I will leave it to you to solve.
Personally as a completely biased long time player of hell let loose, I'd choose both 1 and 2. But thats just me
implicit in this is getting rid of the awful aim sensitivity
also, speak truth to power ✊
The fact that it takes almost 10 seconds to turn around while braced should be enough
The greyhound has a faster turret turning than an actual man
the flames also disappear at a set distance if you aim up to try and get more range
i like the map but sadly larp loadouts
I'm guessing no gammon bombs? 🥺 👉 👈
But flamethrower god, what about now being able to destroy ammoboxes…and ammo crates???
Surely that makes up for its shortcomings
T17 continues to be unintentionally hilarious with how clueless they are
I think they should keep that as a buff but still actually buff it
Whatch them not be able to buff the range as they don't know how to render the fire sprite further
New tanks coming with Tobruk
For Germans
Just North African expansion
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Sd Kfz 222 to use it in Tobruk, and motorcycles with MG34
i want the flamethrower fast but i dont have 15 bucks for bob the builder
It’s free on Bob
Well yeah. They just chose the most inconsequential “buffs” to apply rather than to do anything with its actual combat effectiveness. They don’t realize that people aren’t going flamethrower to use it in destroying crates
Unironically the only positive is destroying nodes
because those take so long to break
What’s the chance that you will find enemy nodes which usually near 200 metres from the HQ, with flamethrower?
same chance you would as any other class
get that flamethrower, i found a node.
things that will never happen
only if u are lv 50 tho
bubbles knows math
you picked the wrong guy to contraditc
2026 is when tobruk will finally drop tho
Y’know I wouldn’t be suprised if they can’t change the flamethrowers range or mechanics due to BM’s code
2026 is pacific
I hear that if you ask for the pacific enough it will suddenly show up
so dont stop suggesting it and it will finally come true 💪
This is true.
is there any more tactics to get my support to 8 pls i want the flamethrower
build nodes and swap to support or bob the builder if thats still a thing
this is silly
just write new code
it is
But has been true in the past
I want eastern front
but i need to be 50 lv or i need to buy their 15 bucks patreon
When we get normal map for it
cant change how the gamemode strong point system works its hard coded 
considering theres 50 people on a full team, 4 of which are recon and live inside the enemy HQ basically and 1 which is commanding the game, theres 45 people that realistically will come across non HQ nodes. Now lets assume that there is the standard chance of someone having a flamethrower based upon the steam achievement percentage (between 0.05 and 0.01%) which gives you no more than 400-2000 people on earth who own the flame thrower, now lets assume that out of the likely less than 7 support players on your team, one happen to be one of those guys with the flamethrower, we are left with one person on a team, with a map size usually in the Kilometers, to find nodes the size of boxes, and get close enough (less than 5 meters) to effectively burn them. This buff will amount to occasions that are so rare, they are worth clipping and uploading as highlights.
I wouldn't have typed any of this out if not for Hyrum
I only know the flamethrower achievement percentage because I happen to be in that 0.01%
I got all of fm achievements
congrats you're also one of the losers that spent probably in excess of 100 hours grinding it
or like a loser on an XP farming server
either way we lose
Whats also funny is that 14.3% of people have the achievement for dying to a flamethrower, the majority of people who have played this game, have either never seen or never died to one. Which is absolutely hilarious because about the same amount of people have killed 10 vehicles.
Really , Tobruk is cool with out new content, I really don’t need STG 44 there
The rarest achievment in the game by far, excluding the new ones, is for reaching lvl 10 medic. The 3rd rarest being for killing over 1000 enemies with the flamethrower, followed by 500 enemies.
It is likely that less than 5 people on earth have either of those achievements.
Some people were saying that 1942 is old , etc , no STG and panther tanks , so. We don’t need a panther there
Im actually motivated to get lvl 10 medic now
I hate the dumb filler achivements tbh
getting 100 kills or 100 revives in one life type of thing, its clearly possible but seems extremely tedious
Im glad Im not a completionist
Run over 10 enemies with the jeep in one life
Kill ten enemies with the Molotov in one life
These are actually impossible
In normal circumstances
when are we going to get the Pacific Theater?
molotovs stay losing
does anyone actually use them outside of the larp
Do it
It means not only do you need to get kills with the Molotov, you also have to resupply then go back out there and get more kills, all within one life
I could see it being possible hitting a spawn garrison
but only if the enemy team is backtracking after losing a spawn garrison and spawns and has no other spawns
I run them because their cool
I use them as impact grenades
I will die on the hill they should atleast do chip damage to tanks
thats their only viability
I run molotovs for area denial
they just have less throwing range to regular nades and a tiny aoe
No they absolutely should, that was one of their main functions
HLL game development
then the flamethrower would be good against tabks >:)
But their an indie studio so we can’t expect much
even for area denial its such a rare senario to need them really
molotovs are grwat for vehilces in real life as it cuts off the oxygen to the engine
Was that sarcasm
Yes
okay good I almost got rage baited
And in reference to BM
honestly would be cool if flamethrowers could also do some damage to tanks in some way
Also I’ve been hearing good things about Tobruk. Hope it plays better then it looks
probably similar chip damage to them
"Please vote for HLL for the Labor of Love category"
Lmao
server browser still freezes the game for a minute or two when loading
also the cilantro in my salad is ruining my day
I havent touched this game since mid last year
0 updates during that time I assume
well asside from the elsenborn ridge one ig
I actually love the skirmish maps wish they were more common
That was so wonderfully timed haha
Elsenborne was a good map addition, and reading stuff about Tobruk this is yet another good map addition
I played it a bit in the pte I think but never played it when it dropped
This is T17’s apparent strength, map design
tobruk seems good from the little I've played
its just yknow, visually kinda lacking
Yea just weird how it’s so bad looking
All they have to do is slightly improve the left over dogwater gun implementations from BM and I'd play a lot more
they seem to be trying some interesting gimmicks for areas, the caves, rooftop fighting stuff like that
BM just liked their open fields ig
Usually this stuff is already finished when the PTE releases but guess not this time
Cause it was simple and easy
Literally copy and paste
BM had the graphics but not the gameplay design
HLL won because its looks pretty
but a polished turd is still a turd 
Yea lmao
And not even that haha
Going back to the BM maps they look terrible on a glance
It’s super low quality
probably some of the better looking environments I've seem come from a game like this
though its up against squad 44 for comparison really
somehow that game runs worse than HLL for me
also just straight up the best character models for the most part. Something T17 again struggles to replicate sometimes
Yea
These new uniforms are China repro quality sometimes
And I mean that litteraly. That new US Commander helmet is awful
Im just screaming they keep a consistent standard for what should be free and what should be paid, nothing annoys me more than standard uniforms that should just be part of the game for free being paid DLC
Im fine with more out there flashy cosmetics as long as THOSE are the paid items.
The oakleaf/dak cap are the worst offenders imo, why do they look like leather?
yeah whoever does the texturing doesnt quite have it down I think. You can see it with some of the map assets too for the newer maps. Weirdly flat and blurry in a way I cant really put my finger on it
They look like play dough for then anything
Why'd I get 6 "???" achievements on steam???
they're no joke literally called question marks
They are the new achievements for tobruk
and somehow .7% of players have it
dang they broken asf everyone who logs in gets them
Just ignore them
is tobruk out?
free achievements ig helps the completion percentage on my profile lol
is there a release date out
Nah we still wait on the roadmap
ah dang bro



what want

as an epic games peasant, is there any way to play the PTE?
no
So how “early access” was this update anyways? Couple weeks? Couple months?
Early Access Update? wut?
Do you mean when the Map is actually gonna release to the regular, public version? 👀
In that case, its unknown, since no U17 date was mentioned
Yes. How far in development was this map because this is just bad from a visual standpoint
It looks like something from the PS2 battlefields
They said it’s not the finished map but from the past experience of almost every PTE there aren’t many changes to the map from the PTE to release
ok
Ah see I enjoyed the map quite a bit today and had tons of fun on it.
So my my update assumption would be: a few weeks, since most stuff looks finished.
drunk hll suggestion, add the ability to drink molotovs
Well that’s bad because just looking at screen shots this look awful to look at
or throw bazooka ammo at enemy
I’m happy the map plays well but I don’t want to play it if it looks like that
Also looks stunning in my opinion. Did you not enjoy playing it either?
only saw 2 vids but i gotta say it doesnt look good
at least partly
the buildings look sterile
almoste as bad as squad 44
Looking at WW2 picture of Tobruk - I dont think you'll see much change in the near or far future on how their buildings look.
but then again, PTE, so we'll see what the future holds.
I did and it’s very different
damn thats one ugly looking screenshot
yeah fair enough, with that visual, I'd be worried aswell 😄
It’s not even the worst one
yea its really as bad as s44
They should add Roman legionary cosmetics because the Romans had a fortress in Tobruk
Funny
Or should I say.. Antipyrgus 😏
And Tutankhamen and Kheops skins
They lived near , in pyramids. So I think they were in Tobruk and should have place in game
🐪 🐫
Well I don't think pyramids were for living persay but I get your point
Imagine you riding a camel on Tobruk , in Kheops commander skin
And your engineers delivering big sand plates to defensive point
Starting a sandstorm and you dying from starfing run
what else do you think the aliens who build the pyramids used them for ?
How do I get access to the PTE server/app? I can't find it on the Steam store. Thanks!
In steam library
If you have hell let loose, you also will have Hell let Loose public testing
I' not seeing it in my library, I tried uninstalling/reinstalling and have made sure I'm looking at the full list
Open the game in steam
After you will find it
In library exactly, in hell let loose
@lime umbra
I'm opening from Steam, it just won't show for me for some reason
Sometimes it's hidden
I have seen a cave in Tobruk
Found it!
And found Indianas Jones hat
Just testing something dont mind me
Okay
It’s honeypot
Nah that's already been tested 🐝
I hate team killers a tanker killed me while I was trying to get a ride on his tank
Any new outfits with tobruk
Happy Valentine’s Day everyone if you don’t have somebody to spend it with show love to your friends and family
Hey guys I just launched HLL for the first time in months and for some reason i got 8 achievements just for launching it
theyre named, ??, ??, ???, ???, ????, ????, ?????, ?????
Idk why I got em and what they do but can anyone explain?
Placeholders for things coming. PTE is going on currently. This adds the achievements that will be coming in the next release. It's only a placeholder for them currently thus the ???.
wym?
They are future achievements.
i was so confused by that lol
But why would I recieve them now?
Bug. It's happened once before for me lol
I got them too but I haven't played since Feb 8th lol
Has anyone been yapping about the structure durability and flamethrower buffs coming in the next update? 👀
what do you mean structure durability?
Scroll up for yap
anyone trynna run it or what?
If you're looking for folks to play with, go to #pc-looking-for-unit 😎
How did I not realize how awesome machine Gunner is earlier I set up and destroyed an entire squad of Germans
why does my pc blue screen when i launch the game ? or even like 20 minutes into playing ?
Idk hll is pretty buggy for me too I'll load into a game and it'll crash sometimes
Because they’re sloppy
Is it installed on c drive or d drive
They are giving the defensive structures durability ratings ie light, medium, heavy which will determine how weapons interact with them. For example precision strike will now destroy light/medium structures 🔥
I love that idea
Is destructable buildings confirmed?
disc x
👍
Sorted, Thank you!

No one touches the honeypot
Buildings no, fortifications yes
at least spam bots
nope
and when it comes to destruction of the buildable structures, they still just disappear don't they - they don't have any variation of a destroyed structure asset, they just vanish
Baby steps
with small steps like this we won't be alive to see it
HLL development has been so damn slow and of low quality
With this new update are there any plans or more tanks etc?
it becomes very boring with this roster of tanks etc
the devs should look at Squad44... so many vehicles of all kinds there
Is there anything new added in the U17 on the PTE? Weapons, classes, buildables, nerfs, buffs, vehicles etc?
no, no, no, no?, yes, no.
the buffs are extremely minute and not likely to change much
precision strike can destroy certain fortifications
flamethrower can destroy supplies, crates, nodes, deals additional damage to trucks and certain fortifications.
there are some new cosmetics coming as well.
uhhhh is something wrong with my game? i only see like 10 servers with players in them, but steamcharts alone says there are currently over 4k ppl playing
i reset my filters and still nothing
No point unless they upgrade how tanks work because it’s terrible rn
would it be too complicated if the commander could swap default vehicles to others of equal value? that way nothing would be lost, like how jeeps dont see much use. i'd rather swap a default transport truck of 100 fuel to a jeep of 80, and keep the spare 20 for something else. without further restrictions, you could see all four trucks swapped to armoured cars or something as silly... then again, why not
Adding more tanks will just make upgrading the system harder in the future
then they should upgrade the system ASAP, first
but so far, they haven't moved a finger that direction, so ofc
To our knowledge yeah
If it isn’t in the roadmap this year I’m probably never going to play tank in HLL again till it is
2,500k hours doing nothing but HLL tanking has done it’s number on me
brave of you to assume they ever plan to upgrade it
Yeah well I like to hold out hope
Especially given the fact the community’s moaned about it for years
im not meaning to be patronizing but if we go by that logic we're in for a ride. they've been complaining about a laundry list of things which never got looked at.
nodes. spawns. tanks. classes. etc.
yep, not even in years
not even bugs I reported almost 2 years ago (and video-documented) were fixed
they just don't seem to give a F
idk I don't think a tank rework is feasible realistically.
they may be able to change the way they spawn or the sandbox a bit, maybe add or change some modules but expecting a realistic damage model and such is pretty much out of the question imo.
there are a handful of issues some of which don't even lie specifically with the tanks.
Started playing in 2021, tanks were broken then and they still are. Nothing's been fixed.
You have tanks that handle well like the Tiger and then you have the frustrating tanks like Panzer IV and Medium 75. Gave feedback in the PTE on both, devs didn't care.
Graphics have degraded massively as well, and yet the game runs worse than ever 😄
Crazy lmao
Reminds me of when I reported a cosmetic bug 3 times in each PTE and nothing was done about it
They don't care. It's all about new content and cosmetics I guess.
Still broken even now
But don't you want a high and tight haircut? /s
Tempting me 👉 🍯
Eeyyyy you got your emojies 
That's awesome

How much did you pay Ben for that
yuh
I just wanted to play PTE and fix the lowRez look or whatever
I have set it to fullscreen and my screen's resolution and I can't move my mosue to the top left border of the screen
and I can't click any menu item
these devs are a joke truly
nope
Tombstone video update incoming
heh not leaving, but indeed I could add even more tombstones with more things they broke or did bad 😄
they added nothing good so far mechanics-wise (maybe the dynamic weather but that's still buggy)
is 23k xp good in a 38min match?
Its good enough
we are never getting the roadmap
it's relative
career xp is calculated of scores of everybody in the squad, not just your own
😔
one can get a lot of career XP even without doing anything if his squadmates did
cmon team 17 its statehood day release the roadmap
Patients is key
We have to move on to the revolution, invade the offices of t17 and steal the roadmap
HIIEESSTT that's sound fun
Operation Wakefield Wonder is a go
We need a big vehicle, a bus or a van to fill it with people. A lot of bricks to break the windows and enough crazy people to carry out the plan.
Code word
WF1 2UL
Just don't drive down the main road east of SMDM... tonks hav gud view
Aup guys… how do u play Tobruk on steam? Is it live now? 👍🏼
Sweet
As the bot shows
- Download and launch Hell Let Loose (Public Testing)
- Click on Enlist
- Join a server that does not have a password. (Official Testing servers will not be passworded, those that have been setup for private events etc.
If you need help just ask 
anyone have a trick for finding squads that actually work together and communicate? Joining random locked squads even results in mostly silent comms and the game sucks without at least a squad of teammates working together
why is there ?? achievements
i just unlocked like 4 achievements which was just questionmarks
oh alr
Placeholders for upcoming Tobruk achievements
I keep thinking... if the fire caused by the flamethrower or molotovs would largely spread in a house for a limited time, the flamethrower/molotovs would be actually useful
would it be hard to implement a self-spreading fire?
would be just great if the flamethrower could set a whole house interiors on fire if fired into multiple windows and doorway from the outside, in a short timespan
even if it would have lasted just for like 30s before auto-dissipating
Wouldn't it look somewhat odd having a fire first realistically spread across an entire house before it magically dissipates into thin air?
i think we they gave the flamethrower enough attention for 5 years
lets revisit the topic then ^^
japanese faction. anzac faction when????
😂 would be sick
are there any big updates coming to the game btw?
Right now, only Tobruk and the roadmap for 2025 are on the horizon
alright mate cheers
Anyone know when the new desert village map coming?
They haven't said yet (aside from "early 2025"). They'll probably say which month they plan to release it in on the roadmap.
I just want a Berlin map
Guys I have a question. Does hell let loose have friendly fire? If yes, how can I see difference on enemy and teammate?
test it by nading as much freindly's as you can in one spot
Friendly fire exists. Name indicators over friendlies or uniform recognition
Also, weapon sounds to differ between friend and foe
so... i rephrase again... ANZACS???.. we can only hope
ANZACS were called the rats of trobruk they played a HUGE part in that battle lol
Ok. So it isn’t hard to look difrence between teammate and enemies?
Not really, no
its very easy to see names above peoples heads unlike a game like squad
Perhaps a skin pack? Dunno
yeah ANZAC skin pack to go with the british
My game has a problem, it doesn't load the servers anymore, I've already deleted it and downloaded it again from Epic games, but it still has this error, can anyone help me?
And one more question. Does it matter what version of the game? I mean the standard one and the better versions
although they should 100% be there own faction. without them africa would have been alot harder to take/hold
other editions are just for cosmetics
all the factions and such are free updates
the addition of japanese would be insane. i wonder if devs are secretly workin on it
My game has a problem, it doesn't load the servers anymore, I've already deleted it and downloaded it again from Epic games, but it still has this error, can anyone help me?
make sure you don't have any filter enabled
i sure hope not. other factions need more fleshing out. I say this as somebody who would like other factions.
yeah that is true
the fact that british and soviets only have 3 maps a piece is criminal.
make sure you don't have any filter enabled
what battles would you like to see included
Caen. Berlin. Not a fan of DDAY maps but maybe a canadian/british landing.
i see. only thing is because of the area its similer to maps already done. ww2 was alot more than europe and the top of africa
thats my thought process atleast
If they do add the japanese (which honestly I could care less about) they should do more original content like the Phillapines or Guam
I'd rather them represent Italians over the Japanese to start with honestly
italians def need to be seen
agreed there
Half the maps we have play in france...
I wouldn't say japanese are overrepresented because they are a big part of WW2 but it's not fresh or stimulating in the slightest. Somebody suggested the japanese how original lmao.
I just roll my eyes.
Enable crossplay in settings
Nah but i could care less about sililaritys, just gimme a good map
After what i have seen of Tobruk it looks nice, havent played it though.
most of there battles were in the sea or islands so yeah would be hard to implement the japanese i guess
I think it just rolls down to again, them not being original or daring in any way. I know when somebody brings up Japan you know they're only going to mention something iconic like Iwo Jima. I'm not impressed in the least. At least suggest something interesting and new like India.
i just happen to know about them abit more cuz they bombed australia😂
im kinda new, will berlin be added at some point in the future?
I roll my eyes at Iwo Jima for the same reason I roll my eyes at DDAY. I've seen it a billion times.
It has been suggested a lot, isnt planned tho right now
and near me is all the signege and modifications done for the japanese. in prestine condition
darn
Next map after tobruk will we juno beach after some remours i heard.
Yeah would be a nice map.
I really wanna fight in the Reichtag
indeed
me too
maybe add an easter egg where you can put up a soviet flag if you can get to the roof
people like to dogpile on italy but to me it's a game, it doesn't have to be completely realistic. number two, how many games have you played where you get to actually play italy.
and a less destroyed stalingrad map with the univermag
i've played games where you PLAY in italy, but very few where you get to actually be italian
in enlisted you can be italian but cant play italy
Ey, if you got some well thought out idea post them in #1098158460463480842
same with france, I just got off Squad44 and it was super fun. I was playing in the Bis tank with the 75mm Hull gun vs early german tanks.
couldnt hurt
As long as you dont make a pacific suggestion😒
im coming from enlisted
a pacific map is far from anything id want the devs to work on
yeah that id support too
battle of shanghai, wuhan and whatnot
No way they will ever do china, with their speed of 2 maps a year we will get Japna by 2030.
fr
either way, its my opinion they need to stop doing maps for the US faction at least for like a year or two
its genuinely pathetic
So real
If we get another France US map im gonna cry
Yeah i dont really see this happening this year, but maybe next year.
and if they're not going to do that they should really be diversifying how the maps play like what vehicles and weapons are avaliable
We will see when they
show us the roadmap
I hope it is a thing
non-US vs GER Normandy is needed
not at the cost of another beach map lmao
While it would be france at least its the british
i can live with that
What i cant live with is the state of the firefly
hello chat
I haven't actually used the firefly for like the past year did they fix the handling yet
I dont believe so....
Its drive like a battleship, im sure the Ratte could turn faster than this thing.
honestly
if they decided one year to just not add content and fix the game I'd be fine with that
most my problems with the game are hundreds of little things which overall make the experience (not unplayable) unenjoyable
What y'all talking about
firefly for all intensive purposes game wise basically being a jumbo 76 but controlling nothing alike
also I wish I could tell you but the firefly isnt even on the firing range
Nah we dont even have testing range for all factions
for the four main factions there is but yeah
the british range is just a copy of the american range
the russian range is basically kharkov
oh nevermind they are all the same. the russian one just has snow
"all intensive purposes " 😂
eglisch
There will be a german range for the eastern front next update.
i play hll you have to assume i have a negative iq
Bro I want to learn how to play as an engineer but I don't even know how to start learning 😭😭
Nodes > mines > protecting and repairing a friendly tank > repair stations > building forts.
How where when
At the start of game, either in HQ with supplies or drop supplies outside of 2nd column/row, but go back into it to build if you're using a supp truck.
Mines whenever you can, the closer to enemy HQ, the better.
Repair a friendly tank if you happen to be nearby, otherwise probably just run satchel loadout.
Repair stations in places where it's not easy to destroy them, but somewhat close to location where friendly tanks would like to be in.
Forts only in Offensive or sometimes a bit of barbed wire in middle point on Warfare.
Hmm, seems fair to me, I'll keep that in mind and learn more while playing
Yeah if you get any questions at all, just throw them in #new-recruit-barracks
Guys, about the division packs, can you use them in other maps? Or they're locked to Mortain/Elsenborn
Can I like find myself a squad squad there where I could learn with type shi
You can look for people to group up via #pc-looking-for-unit if you're on PC.
But in any case it'll be the simple logic of just going in a specific server together and then a specific squad together, so, personally, I'd just jump in any community server and look for a squad that's talkative. Ask them all the questions you might have in the second and chances are, they'll give you a sufficient response.
Thanks 😤😤
Why did I just get four question mark achievements?
You've been selected for a special mission.
Just don't bring up the pacific posts 
ill be happy with any new maps really 😃
Are you joking or is it some sort of update lol
it's some sort of update
Just placeholder achievements for a future update.
oh lol thanks
Not as cool I know 😅 but yeah it's totally fine
did they get rid of skirmish?
i dont think so, it's just not popular
Hey
konnichiwa
GG
i don’t see it on the main menu which is why i asked
also sorry if that sounded a little passive aggressive
its something the server decides
Console has a matchmaking playlist for Skirmish, and one for Warfare/Offensive
gotta find a server thats hosting it, aye
But it should be there afaik?
so they took it away from the plebs?
HII
i was gonna check in the server list, but if it's a console interface thing i can't help :(
Yeah i can't double check either.. PC plebs 😔
is anyone free to play
yea, most of the folks that got it on epic :}
guys do y'all know why don't i hear voice chat? im on the call with my cousin and she hears voice chat but i do not, i need help with this because its so annoying
Might find some folks in https://discord.com/channels/316459644476456962/600902429520822303
Is your audio output device set in the audio settings?
Options > Audio > [Check]
i am new to this game i only start play yesterday is anyone what to play
i do not see this option
when i go to options, audio i don't have "output device"
You have to click on the microphone check button
btw that doesnt work for me at all (the checking)
it does work in game tho
Right Above connnect/disconnect
it just says to test the microphone
i like recon in which you can play sniper roll but i only able to play ones
im so dumb. i clicked it and it told me to choose the device.
sorry for the trouble
No worries try to specify the devices manually and see if it works
I enjoy playing Spotter to let people snipe. 🙂
do you what to play together?
I am about to have lunch but maybe later.
ok
Max check DM please
Does anyone know if there are some milsims I could join?
yo wassup on waht servers do you guys play on where people are active talkers
Find some community servers. You could also find folks to play with in #pc-looking-for-unit
You could find clans in #console-divisions-recruitment
where can i look for community servers?
thank you
Speaking of community servers - why is there hundreds of official servers taking players away from communities? If people join communities they will play the game for longer…
Because then you'll have a group of morons asking "How can this game have no official servers? That's unacceptable in 2025!"
No need for 200 though is there?
10000 players online and over half are on official servers. If clans/communities don’t get their servers going they die. And these are players that stick around rather than ones that play 1 week and leave
Really basic stuff - makes no sense at all
That's 11k* on steam bud', you can x2 or x3 that for total PC players probably
But overall I agree ofc. Just because of the 0 moderation and no rules
when ever have the HLL devs made any sense of their decisions xD
I don't get how can you shoot that insanely off tho
I understand they made new servers for massive epic games intake but now is the time to reduce and let those players join communities
They will then stick around longer, spend more money, keep game going
I haven't spent a cent after buying the game xD
Unless they make some really dope cammos, not gonna happen
17600 in servers right now
How do you know it?
Seems quite low knowing how epic was completely free
Probably got sick of official servers just like my point
or, it was free, people tried it and realised they don't care that much about it, and stopped
Also, Kingdom Come Deliverance 2 has probably taken a few players away
besides, my guy claiming over half the players on official servers is wrong anyway.
That's true, even Sammy boy's been playing KCD2 more recently.
But it's hard to believe that the paid version has more active players than the free + game pass.
Why? It's not free on epic anymore
Oh yeah they aren't for sure. But generally they should fade away the "official" servers as much as possible
They should fade away the official servers so we can load the server browser a little quicker
Sounds like a T17 validated ducttape fix
It noticably slowed down when they spooled up 600 servers
I mean, Epic gives out lots of free games... I had an account with probably 40-50 free games. Doesn't mean I'd play it all the time 🤷♀️
lol
its been a while since there was any free non-indie game
Oh that ofc. I have plenty of the garbage picked up as well. Even remember an old class mate saying "it's an investment" haha
I'm pretty sure I have free lego games 🤔
they also had most of the map staring games but the base version isnt really worth much :}
personally i think HLL was the 1st real game for free (that doesnt require dlcs)
maybe some adventure games, i ignored those
and gta ofc
fortnite
well f2p there is a lot more
oh im not discussing i just love to say Fortnite randomly lol
anybody has an idea what these "????" achievements supposed to be on steam?!
its the main staple of epic for sure :}
new achievements for the update
not yet done, nonetheless given out :}
why not wait with the achievements until the update is finally public?! in my opinion this is kind of unprofessional in my eyes
It's a bug, has happened before.
ive only seen this bug happen with HLL lol
Technically, the "Post game summary" shows me having all of them as well, and I last played February 8th 🙃
devs gotta git gud
little bugs like this are small details but erode players confidence in the product
It could be I already techncally did the achivements, but they haven't been oficially released, so haven't counted. (Usually they are related to the new map, but may not always be.)
I disagree but 🤷♀️ I also don't get super critical of game developers. As long as the game works and runs fine, I'll play.
thats the thing... it doesn't...
Runs fine for me.
We were just talking of that 🤦♀️ Yes. It's a bug.
literally scroll 2 secs up
they were just talking about it
maybe im a little slow but i cant find the public testing download on the steam store
Oh lol
You have the game in your library?
I just came lmao
yes
Thanks everybody
Anyone know what these ???? thing is
i have hell let loose downloaded in my library, i have had it for years but i can't find the public testing portion
#off-topic-mess-hall message Screenshot here. You should see it in your library right next to the other one.

Make sure all your filters are clear for your library. (I usually have the "Show only ready to play games" filter. Shows only my installed games vs all the games in my library.)
and I will be honest the inconsistency with achievements tied to new maps and such bothers me. Why make an achievement for playing 50 matches on the new maps as well as 50 matches on skirmish on these maps. Like there is no continuity in there
Hello 👋🏽
why doesn't the hll bot have hll in its favourites
in many such cases
Yoooo the playerbase is looking pretty healthy again what happened I’ve not been keeping track I stopped playing a while ago
Epic game store gave it out for free the first week of the year. But also looks like lots of people just buying it on sale.
Epic games free launch. Lots of TikTok attraction
Any new stuff in the game?
wow. active player count doubled last month. hope the newcomers stick around
That’s what I’m saying, probably gonna jump back in
@midnight nacelle you seeing this?
yeah i havent played several weeks but prob gonna give it a go this weekend
When did you last play? We got a new map last November. We have a PTE right now for another map (and other changes you can see in the Telegram post #telegrams message )
ONE FOR THE HONEYPOT BOOYYSSSS
🏦
Can you really call it a win when people have already clicked?
Yes
imo, f the people. If they're stupid enough to click it, they deserve it
Hi guys. A question:
Why sometime some servers dont show up to some ppl but other does?
you know warhammer 40k and how all their machines run on prayers and sigils?
so no one is playing the PTE?
I think it was when the British were reworked
50 gigs to play one, half-baked map? Yeah, imma pass
new map is half baked?? 😥
That's the whole point of a testing and developing phase
It is in a desert so maybe 😄
Not sure if this was fixed but there was an issue with Windows (Game Pass). They had a limit on servers showing that wasnt fault of T17. ther was a solid bit of info in the Bunker Discord
Thanks for the revolutionary fact. Doesn't change the fact that re-downloading the entire game for that ain't worth it
the last two maps have not been great. im reaching a limit here lol
mortain and whatever the F crossing
Ramagen?
Doesn't change the fact that re-downloading the entire game for that ain't worth it
Clearly you dont understand how development works.
So if its "halfbaked" then be thankful its not in the main game.
Guys how to fix problem when I am in lobby and go to search for server it says that there are not any servers
First time playing a video game
whoops i meant elsenborn ridge. yeah its not great. slightly better than mortain but they both still suck
i like elsenborn
I'm a dad with 3 kids that only plays 2 hours of video games a week and I do it partially drunk to purposfully grief my own teammates in every multiplayer game I play.
eh not a fan personally. its ok just not for me 🙃
What alchohol?
Guessed that it would be something brewed at home.
Nah' man. I just send the wife out to get some
Do you have kvass also?
Sweet beer if I am not mistaken.
is like fermented sugar water isn't it (i meant thats most beer like things anyway.)
its actually rye sugar water
I am Steam.
It happened to me twice, i changed the name of our community server, and the fact i put | or a / was enough to apear or not. The character i chose made the difference.
But I don't understand why appear to some but to others don't
i would assume whatever thing they use to pick up the severs cant deal with that character
and if its not vaild input its not vaild input
For me is very valid since it appears, so i assumed its fine. I can find the server, joe and jack can find. But Steve cant.
I was wondering if it had something to do, which would be very very odd.
But still to some appear, to other dont. Would like to know why. This happens more times than it should.
I play HLL for more then 5 years, i can't understand why this happens then "just too many servers, cant load them all"?
"it broke" because of "reason i pulled out of my ahem" is the best your going to get out of me unluckily though it just going "too many dump the rest" would also make sense
this scoreboard glitch needs fixed
Sup
Glitched how?
Not being able to scroll up or down without it resetting
Is there crossplay between PC and console? I have the setting enabled, but I cant see any of the servers he can, and he cant see any that I can
no
Whats the point of the crossplay setting then?
between xbox and Ps and on the PC side i dont know
hey, can you die if you step on a friendly anti personel mine? also how do you tell if it was placed by your team or enemy team?
no, and you can see mines on the map if they are placed by friendlys
will not be the last time lol
i love this map
details like u can jump on the sandsacks from the roofs so you dont take dmg
very niiiiiiice
Ayeee
l
So I've got 2 questions: Does flamethrower damage Player built structures, and does it damage tanks?
PC is Steam, Epic Game Store, and PC Gamepass
Tanks, no. Possibly structures in the future, looks like the PTE is buffing it to take out nodes, forward structures (garrison?) , and supplies. It does damage to vehicles which will buff in PTE.
Thanks man
it can already destroy garrisons, I think forward structures might be one of the different spawns for skirmish
where do I give feedback for PTE?
#telegrams message At the bottom of this message, it tells you 🙂
they better read that shi
ok, thanks
You may want to go to #enlist_language to find non-English chats 🙂
sup
Feel free to make suggestions to it in the feedback link.
#telegrams message
It's an unfinished product so it's not perfect.
There's unfinished and then there's this garbage. Literally the same quality as the U15 trailer they got canned for
🤷♀️ You're entitled to your opinion.
As always
Tobruk sure loves its sandbags and crates
you can really see t17 stretching how many times they can repeat assets around
Also, if they're doing a PTE for it, it means that it's closer to finished than anyone realises and will likely be released close to the state it is now in
in an attempt to make the town look less barren, damn near every building has sandbags just stacked on the outer walls
greebles for the sake of greebles
You watch them release it looking the way it does.
They probably will.
I get they're trying to fill the urban area with some visual interest, but sandbags/crates everywhere aint cutting it
Not to mention the COD2 comparisons xD
Again, same quality as the U15 trailer
Probably threw this "map" together a month ago
where can i find people who will communicate on the game? ive joined about 10 games today and have like 3 people communicating, i dont care if you type or have a mic just some communication is nice lol
Uhhh... what are these acheivments I got... theres 4 of them and they're just "?????"
Bug. It happened before. Just future achievements.
Ohhh okay
You can find folks to play with in #pc-looking-for-unit and possibly if you're interested you can find a clan to play with in #pc-divisions-recruitment
tyvm
Hahaha...years later and the mess hall is still the Hate hall
Tobruk is going to be a popular map
aww man hearing criticism of tobruk is getting me bummed out
People hated it before they even played it...or, more likely, they didnt even play it
I can't wait to explore it 😄
a lot to explore
No update in epic games?
There is currently no update for base game. The PTE version (Hell Let Loose Public Testing) has an update to try the new map and stuff.
A bit extreme, but okay...
Maybe, it could be because it was picked up by a team that had experience exclusively on candy crush clones. Learning process can be long. Thats just proof of the rental mentality though,
how active\
Hi, new here,
Welcome 
Don’t be bummed, it’s gonna be a favourite. Criticism will only make it better
hope youre right. ill try to be a little more optimistic. they gotta at least be better than the last two i hope. bars kinda low
Artillery in offensive mode is broken and I hate it
You gotta get those first 3 points quick 😉
25 deaths to artillery 💀
Flanking, multiple spawns and recons ability to keep up the pushes' momentum are key to winning in Offensive
just hopped in Tobruk, i like the sandstorm vibe, cool map layout
i feel like the buildings look untouched by war or any bombing
aesthetically kinda spotty
Can Epic users play on the test server
https://youtu.be/nf7bklMaDv4?si=S-fReJQrhZZs_1hl
More evidence of blatant cheating everyone is just gonna ignore
Love me the good ole leap frog.
Good morning
Just got a friend to try HLL for the first time. He asked me for help to explain how the game works, so I happily abliged.
Next thing you know, I give him a simple run down of how a game plays w/o mixing in too many complicated strats or anything.
He plays for like 15 mins and says "Welp, Imma go. I thought it'll be more entertaining."
So I ask "what's not entertaining?"
He replies "Well, I can't really kill anyone"
...
That’s his problem lol cod brain at work
I went from 2000 hours in dayz to playing he’ll let loose and the patience is key
He hasn't even played cod I think
But that was the worlds biggest skill issue moment I could notice. Like dude legit thought he's gonna come in HLL
Not talk in squad, understand anything and drop like 100 kills as inf
He might’ve thought the game was different like you are a cog in a huge machine
Just so restarted
Deaths are neccasary
You can see it based off the map
I like to meet people in game rather then bring friends into the game, because they expect something different
It's not 100m X 100m, it's 2km X 2km
I just got triggered by this dopamine, 1 brain cell, moment so badly
TikTok brain fr
Games that have guns and shooting means people want to use them
The same guy thought Battlefield 4 was too challenging...
Then I think its no surprise he doesn't like hll
Hey i was looking online trying to find information on the hidden achievements that are like "??" "???" "?????" and didnt find anything, anyone know what they are for? i got them a bit ago and dont see any information on them.
hm, weird, so like, is that a bugged achievement?
Kinda
Should reset when tobruk comes out since it will be for playing matches of that map
very cool to know, thanks m80
👍
Games unplayable
I used to play 1 year ago and now im getting killed from god knows where
All the tens of thousands of people playing would probably disagree
Game was 10000x better 1 year ago
It essentially hasn't changed
You a newgen

git gut
at least im not crying for getting killed by gifted people lol
Yeah, but in all seriousness. There's been a few updates, but they had like 0 really meaningful things. Mainly just some bug fixes and a few UI improvements that were quite minor. Nothing major has changed, thus the game hasn't really changed.
Your whole argument is a self-made placebo effect
discreet hackers
you said the game was better 1 year ago because now youre getting killed from god knows where
people get better at the game over time, just because you were good 1 year ago doesnt mean youre good now
I get the joke now haha
bro is a high class dumdum
balkan players join team up
except it is
Nobody talked to you tf
When the people from the normal version of the game can play in the new map ?
When the update releases.
The date is unknown yet.
But I would say it will take no less than a month or two.
Approximately a month to 6 weeks.
Damn, that's a lot of balancing, thanks for the info.
You are welcome.
I feel you there
What the hell are these achievements i just got?
I just got 4 Varying Trophies on Steam Called
"??" "???" "????" "?????"
Each one has 0.1% on it
And i have No idea how i got them or what they are
You're hacking! Those are impossible to get
I'm not Hacking 🤣
Probably edited the memory or something
I just killed 4 People under a bridge in a Server i don't know how to speak the language of, and then unlocked all four of them and i have no idea what they are
Hacking in games to get achievements is so 2018
They are placeholders for when Tobruk releases. They will be reset when it does.
Accusing a Stranger Online of Hacking, Is so 2012
Tell it to the CS2 playerbase
Thank you very much, Thought it was a bug i'd need to report or something
This isn't Cs2 is it?
Yeah, tell that to them
Just Keep playing Stalker while i play HLL
Yeah, I should really complete it finally.
Yeah, it's totally a new thing and hasn't been asked every 2 hours for the past day or two straight.
Everyone got them that are currently playing. They are placeholders for new achievements you may of already earned before needing to earn them. So its just rewarding them to you. But the verison of the game isn’t up to date to the Tobruk verison yet
Just seen this reply
grats
grats
Ggwp
hi
Hi
how are you
Any tips for clearing the board
good
im good
Hi
You can get clearing the board in any game mode. Doesn't have to skirmish. That's the most useful tip.
can some of yall help me get flamethrower
I suggest you to build nodes and then use the support for the rest of the game. Anyways It's not worth it, I think the flamethrower is even worse than a pistol
idc its so fun to use
is there anything else than building nodes?
If you say so🙄
It's very hard to get near an enemy (>15m) without being shot. Then, the flamethrower doesn't even one-shot so people can kill you while you are spreading fire on them
There are the "Bob the builder" servers but I hate them. They ruin all the fun of the game
u need to be 50 level to get in there
Idk, on the Bob the builder servers on console there isn't a level cap. Search for another one
Assault lvl.9 for one of the most broken loadouts in the game (especially for the germans)
Since the free game on epic, the game is toxic aF
How do you report bugs?
see #player-support
TOBRUK map ended?
Should still be going in PTE until tomorrow.
what map is better? omaha beach or utah beach?
Nothing
imo, utah
yes
it didnt give me when i did it 5 times
Gameplay wise it has to be utah (unless the only thing you care about larping on US Omaha Offensive)
I't did. still get xp. no match complete or win bonus
im talking about xp in class
yep, class XP we get fully because the bonuses don't affect it
career XP however, we get way less without the post-match bonuses
BRO I LOST THE XP I LEFT THE GAME
We all just told you that you did not but by all means keep yelling at the wall.
2 IQ OR SMTH?
???
if so then its a bug or a permantnly f-ed up thing thx to the devs once more
