mess-hall

[arctic rampart]

Depends on how well you can communicate with the others in your team/squad.

[glossy sand]

Yeah that calculator is pretty dope!!

[arctic rampart]

I also posted a flank example on SMDM (Du Mont map) in #off-topic-mess-hall, but you need to pick up the off-topic role to see it.
It's still a prison in this channel so I can't post any images.

[glossy sand]

Oh yeah for sure!! Get the right squad with good comms it will become super fun!

[ebon fable]

I recommend you look up GAS HLL on YouTube and do what he does if you’re new.

[arctic rampart]

Or just literally any tutorial from which there are hundreds to pick from now

[glossy sand]

I have seen some hilarious role playing squads, they will instantly make a match funnier and go better 🤣

[arctic rampart]

Or just play in a squad that speaks and ask questions

[glossy sand]

Or that Soul Sniper guy as well

[ebon fable]

Nope!

[glossy sand]

He does a good job at explaining what roles do

[glossy sand]

Nope? GAS is very very hard to understand and you need subtitles on

[ebon fable]

Don’t be racist bro. 🙄

[glossy sand]

I’ve watched them both, would HATE to battle them though holy crap

[glossy sand]

What is racist about that?

[glossy sand]

Bro I think I’m gonna block you now, you’re getting on my nerves

[keen glen]

lol

weak mental

[midnight crescent]

Anyone on ps5 and plays tanks?

[arctic rampart]

#console-looking-for-unit

[pine ember]

Add the Pacific now!!

[gentle lintel]

I have a structured settlement but I NEED CASH NNOOWWWW

CALL JG WENTWORTH, 877 CASH NOW

https://tenor.com/view/turn-up-volume-11-hype-turnedup-gif-27175135

[worthy charm]

You have what?😅

[gentle lintel]

I have an annuity but I NEED CASH NOOOWWW

CALL JG WENTWORTH, 877 CASH NOW

[past veldt]

Drew abusing his gif privileges smh

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/855594228934246443/1182322582175887441/attachment.gif

That's a gif you can use for moderation btw drew

Thank me later

[past veldt]

Soulsniper doesn't even farm pubs that well, but GAS farms top comp players. You can't compare soul and GAS at all

[worthy charm]

The mods are using gifs while we arent allowed to is mean.😒

[gentle lintel]

I’ll hold on to this thank you

[silk cedar]

Ah

[wind shore]

https://tenor.com/view/to-be-continued-enlisted-plane-bombing-gif-25290267

[thick fox]

yesssssss

time to trashtalk

you know what hellletloose players are to serious then the people who actually fought real war...

[silk igloo]

i've been fighting this war for 6 years and people still dont build garris. war... war never changes

[spring wagon]

Hey

[arctic rampart]

I just met you!

[worthy charm]

xD

At least those games end very fast😅

@civic dune why the clown?😢

[shadow bronze]

Day 9 of requesting Steam Workshop for HLL

[inland jungle]

season?

[hard galleon]

can someone help me with my game

the mic check isnt working

[arctic rampart]

https://discord.com/channels/316459644476456962/1271765113040408606 have fun

[hard galleon]

the voice chat is working but the mic check isnt

[rare sphinx]

@sly flicker

[arctic rampart]

idfk

[sly flicker]

Yes hello?

[past vortex]

same
still works tho

[hard galleon]

u use epic

[past vortex]

yea

[hard galleon]

u got parental stuff enabled?

[past vortex]

where is that?

i dont think so :}

[hard galleon]

ahh :(

i thought i found da problem

lmk if u find a fix 😭

people cant even hear me properly

[valid marlin]

Hello

[past vortex]

for me it mostly works

it is wonky for everyone tho

that is it can totally happen that it stops working mid game

[hard galleon]

😭

[past vortex]

reconnect fixes it

[primal robin]

Bells Let Loose

[bitter lark]

Is there a way to get Vc only servers?

[versed marsh]

whewr do i ask people to playu

[slate canopy]

VC is not required... So you just gotta keep trying. Community servers are better for that than public official.

[slate canopy]

#pc-looking-for-unit

[cloud wave]

is it possible to get banned for an hour for abuse for saying absolutely nothing wrong?

[past vortex]

ofc

[oak current]

if you got votekicked and If the majority said yes, you could be votekicked for anything or nothing at all.

[glossy sand]

Ill block you too bro 🤷🏻‍♂️

[wind shore]

why are customisations not working, anything i bought from the shop arent popping up

[glossy sand]

No but he describes each role pretty well for what they do and how some of them work. Great for a fresh player starting that isn’t gong straight into competitions………

[sterile elm]

looking for a squad to play with

[glossy sand]

Also like I said, good luck understanding anything he says in a video. Wasn’t trying to compare, just throwing a suggestion out for a tutorial. Not everyone plays competitive

[wind shore]

day 34738737634 of searching for a lobby with more then 1 person using a mic correctly

[past veldt]

<@&365680483276816385> quick before I click it

[dull kindle]

hello new player here i just bought the game...how i can improve and learn the game ? (any tips welcome)

[warm girder]

Understand the spawning mechanics. How a garrison/op works and how and where you can place them

[glossy sand]

Watch your map and surroundings, take cover and play it more slow than you would a typical FPS

[midnight nacelle]

I hold the keys to success! 🙏 💵

[glossy sand]

Also a few videos on YouTube that explains the different roles and what they do, which became helpful for me. I used to play nothing but rifleman but now i catch myself running support and helping build garrisons and dropping ammo or engineer and build nodes!

[dull kindle]

how the talking thing works

[glossy sand]

The voice chat?

[dull kindle]

yea

[glossy sand]

PC?

[dull kindle]

yea

[glossy sand]

How to talk in Hell Let Loose (Xbox, PC, PS5) - Voice Chat - Pro Game Guides

https://progameguides.com/hell-let-loose/how-to-talk-in-hell-let-loose-xbox-pc-ps5-voice-chat/

PC controls are towards the middle ☺️

[past vortex]

why would you need a 3rd party guide to look up the keybindings?

[glossy sand]

Because I don’t play on PC

[keen glen]

hahaha yes

bros downloading free spyware

[midnight nacelle]

Fair attempt at helping others, but you can view your own settings within the game for your respective platforms.

[glossy sand]

He’s a new player? Just started?

[glossy sand]

Blocked bro

[zenith shuttle]

@midnight nacelle
How I can contact the support in discord to ask my question ?

[midnight nacelle]

Can you be a little more specific so I can point you in the right direction?

[keen glen]

i dont care

[zenith shuttle]

I would like to know where can I contact the admins or others to ask some questions, I would like to realize an event, but before trying manipulation I would like to know if this is possible 🙂

@jericho.stryker

Sorry for my english, i’m Belgian guys x)

[midnight nacelle]

I'm not sure I fully understand, feel free to message me privately with more details otherwise you can try #player-support but I feel other server hosts might be your best insight.

[keen glen]

mail them buddy

[midnight nacelle]

No worries on the language barrier, you're doing fine! 👍

[zenith shuttle]

you can’t mail that group hell let loose, you mail the company

[keen glen]

yes thats what im saying

[zenith shuttle]

I send you a private message then

[azure heath]

day four of asking is tomorrow the day?

[zenith shuttle]

Hello guys,

for the French community, I would like to organize evening events but a little special.

I use GTX Gaming to host the hell let loose server and here I would have liked to organize a full tank event like the youtuber Fresh.Baked.Goods.

I would have liked to know if it was possible infact to modify the number of armored squad in each faction and if as admin one can make vehicles appear or give resources to the commander

what would allow in fact to make an event in 12 tanks vs 12 tanks

[past veldt]

No, you cannot modify anything

[zenith shuttle]

How can I do my event ?

[past veldt]

Why would I know this?

It's your event

but you can't modify the game in the way you're asking

[glossy sand]

A bit hostile?

[warm girder]

I don't think you can do it

[oak current]

well, you cant have 12 vs 12 tanks. Theres also no admin command or option to change that sadly.

[zenith shuttle]

A english youtuber make 18v18 tank

[oak current]

hey @wooden cloud - you made a 18vs18 tank setup?

[warm girder]

forget what i said then

[zenith shuttle]

Look my picture #off-topic-mess-hall @oak current @warm girder

[wooden cloud]

yup 6 medium tanks per side

[oak current]

I was curious how you would have been able to have more than 6 tanks 😄

but now it makes sense

[plush night]

Hey guys, new player here. The stuttering issue has long been a discussion on reddit forums for years come to find out when I was trying to figure out what's wrong with the game. It genuinely pisses me off that this is a "CPU intensive game" when I have a R7 5800X3D, which is a beast, and this is still a problem. Yes, I also turned off CFG and the stuttering came back. Anyone else have any other suggestions that worked? I also have an RX 7600 that I run as a GPU.

[wooden cloud]

Oh yeah. You get to sit there for 25 minutes while you spawn them all in lol

[drowsy plover]

I've heard somewhere that stutters were partly due to shader compliation that happen in the background. It's more a engine issue then hardware issue

[past veldt]

Only if you've cleared your shader cache or only just put DX12 on

[drowsy plover]

If he said he is new, could be that 🤷

[past veldt]

Absolutely, but others will read your post and not see the nuance

[hallow knoll]

when will this game get crossplay from pc to xbox?

or will it ever

[wind shore]

alguem aq e brasileiro?

[azure heath]

no

[wind shore]

alguem aqui pode me manda o link do jogo na steam?

Eu não estou achando

[glossy sand]

Not really sure, possibly this year? A lot of Xbox is coming over to PlayStation, so it’s gonna open up floodgates I do believe

[azure heath]

i don't speak portuguese my brotha

no habla portuguese

[wind shore]

compriendo

MY link steam

consigas?

LINK GAME STEAM]

Consigas my amigo?

[hallow knoll]

hopefully comes asap, got friends i wanna play with it would be extremely fun

[glossy sand]

Fingers crossed! I feel like 25 is gonna be the year of stuff like that. I mean they talking about PlayStation getting halo 🤣

[past vortex]

no

[glossy sand]

Yes

[normal fjord]

why are there still 200 official servers? Surely you would want people to play on community servers for a number of reasons:

1. Better experience/mod/admins
2. If they join a community they will play game longer
3. If community/clans thrive, game survives longer

[slate canopy]

Because people pay for community ones and HLL is providing servers on their dime. Even Team Fortress 2 has official servers.

[normal fjord]

and your point is? They could save money and help the community that literally funds this game

[glossy sand]

It’s also hard to get into some community servers especially on console, they are always full and queues are long, so maybe more options? But I do see your point and I agree

[slate canopy]

My point is all online games have official servers available. It is what it is. I don't see an issue with it.

[tulip pebble]

Holy hawk tuah

[quick rose]

Ur banned

[river rover]

https://tenor.com/view/thor-avengers-banned-discord-ban-hammer-gif-16215287

[glossy sand]

My role model

[brittle laurel]

Bruh when’s the roadmap comin out, it’s feb

[past vortex]

we have been assured they are already working on a roadmap for the roadmap

[ebon fable]

Would love to farm console players by the hundreds if we get cross play

[past vortex]

sheesh

[brittle laurel]

Roadmap roadmap coming Q2 2025!

[covert elbow]

July

[ebon fable]

Blindly sending the unwashed official server hordes into community servers would not be helping anyone. Official servers are containment zones

[atomic pendant]

Can't wait for the SoulSniper Easter egg. No doubt will make the 2025 roadmap.

[wind shore]

I don’t see the problem with official servers

[wind shore]

New Sniper rifle ?

[covert elbow]

It’s just going to be the ability to start a recon squad as a sniper

And reducing recon to one

[wind shore]

I hope we will see new mechanics In game

[atomic pendant]

Something. Anything

[white vine]

Sup

[wind shore]

I just don’t care about nothing, only just about 1 eastern front map

Moscow, Narva , Rzhev

I think they have seen those posts on Reddit and discord

[white vine]

Hell let loose fun?

[wind shore]

About people were asking for

[wind shore]

Sometimes it’s funny, depends on game

Depends on which server and map you playing, always depends on something

[white vine]

Alr

I was too late to download hell let loose on epic for free💀

[glossy sand]

Yeah dude has serious mental problems

[covert elbow]

Impossible

[white vine]

The game looks fun.

[covert elbow]

Depends on the kind of game your looking for to have fun with it

[glossy sand]

It is! Some great times can be had 🫡

[old root]

i jus wanna like Mmmmm

[quick rose]

don't even joke about this

i see a world where this happens

[midnight nacelle]

https://tenor.com/view/drstrange-one-onemore-avengers-endgame-gif-14454957

[mighty flower]

when I'm in a discord call with my friend and I talk the people in the game hear me, like commander voice chat for example, always hear me talk even though I'm not pressing C or X or V. Why is this happening? II don't see a open mic setting in the options

[slate canopy]

Is this before the game starts?

[mighty flower]

no, when I'm in game and I'm officer the other officers just hear me talk for some reason

[royal rivet]

i agree with this, should be only 50-ish tbh. Server isn't cheap and should push people play on community server more.

[slate canopy]

May just be a bug. I know there is an open-mic bug before the match starts where you can just hear the voice over proximity chat to the whole team.

[long relic]

r we gonna getg weapon zeroing

cuz at is waay too hard without

ion wanna get close enough to satchel a tank jus to panzershrek it

[slate canopy]

You should look at guides 😉

[long relic]

like i know u can jus lift ur sight but then past like 30m the sight itself completleyt obscures ur target

[slate canopy]

You ping it and go from there. You can usually line it up from there.

[long relic]

yea but i dont want to lift my sight like 15 degrees up from the thing im shooting at

[slate canopy]

🤷‍♀️ Sorry dude, it's how it is.

[azure heath]

so.. tomorrow is the day?

i might crash out if it ain't

[spring wagon]

day for?

[azure heath]

roadmap ofc

[slate canopy]

🤷‍♀️ Maybe?

[lofty bough]

Sights are zeroed to 100, and noticeable drop doesn’t occur till 300m at least for me?

[proper bluff]

GRACIAS

[pliant sigil]

servers down?

at least cannot find european servers

[faint sapphire]

How do I report a cheater?

Like 100% evidence and all

[prisma bramble]

Was it a community server or official

[faint sapphire]

Community :p was recommended to check here.

Sorry. Official***

[prisma bramble]

#player-support possibly?

[mighty flower]

what does seeding mean?

[prisma bramble]

I’m not sure how you even report in official, but for community servers I think you can go to their discords and they can do something about it

[prisma bramble]

It’s when the lobby is still filling up

Like you can’t go past the mid point while game is still seeding is that what it’s saying?

[lofty bough]

For community usually it’s !admin … Messgae or. ?admin

[mighty flower]

idk i've just seen that term around. the server I am in says seeding starts at 25v25

[prisma bramble]

I don’t pay to to much attention to it, you could ask one of the people in your squad too

I don’t think seeding really matters it just means when the server isn’t full

[lofty bough]

Seeding mostly matters, as people tend to leave at end of game; and that without a full team needed tasks don’t get done, (Garry, and Anti-Tank namely, as well as anti arti)

So servers restrict what you can do, and prevent going past mid to get a nominal amount of players, and bring the server to the top of the list so people continue to join over time

[prisma bramble]

Thank you that brings clarity to me as well, good job explaining

[glossy sand]

Just played Elsonborn again, such a cool and dynamic map

[real parrot]

No one said never💀

That map is as

[glossy sand]

I can’t help that most of yall on here hate everything

[glossy sand]

Sounds like a personal issue to me

[real parrot]

yeah sorry I can't help that I want to be able to not have my tank stuck in every single half meter rock

[glossy sand]

Maybe they can fix that for ya

[real parrot]

or all the full hitbox small rocks walls that I could bring down with a kick

At least make the small walls without hitbox like every other map

And thats not even the worst issues

Definitively ridge is not competitive ready

[glossy sand]

Again maybe they can fix it for you, just thought the map looks cool

[real parrot]

The map concept itself is not bad, at least it doesn't have that many objects that not render, today I almost got killed by a Tiger in Stalingrad because a big wall that didn't render at 250 meters was stopping my bullets

[crude heron]

Its not great for cover

[real parrot]

Annoying af that its

[glossy sand]

Stalingrad is a work for sure, good map for a rifleman to practice

[real parrot]

So many objects and props that don't render at 200+ distance, a tankers hell for sure

[lofty bough]

Stalingrads fun, and honestly encourages a much more aggressive playstyle, with so many buildings you can get attacks going really easily

But screw katusya strikes there absolute unreliable crap

[glossy sand]

But sounds epic and scary at the same time

[lofty bough]

They really do,

[glossy sand]

Stalingrad is fun!

[real parrot]

I would also make that explosive rounds from rocket launchers, bombing runs and tanks could kill through soft covers like satchels, in spite of destruction

[real parrot]

At least they reload much faster than normal bombing runs, but you'll have to rely on tanks or precision strikes to take down garrysons

[lofty bough]

I mean maybe, but they are still 300 munitions and deny allies way to much territory

Honestly looking back there roll can usually be done just as well with wildly fired arty

[real parrot]

Arty is always more efficient than bombing runs or katyushas, but it can't destroy garrisons

[mighty flower]

so if a server is seeded it means its full and you can go past mid line?

[lofty bough]

Yep?

[ocean sage]

I've learnt that running and gunning is very effective but only in certain situations

Has to be lots of cover

and you have to have good aim

[thin scarab]

When are we getting the roadmap?

April again ? Because its already Feb again and still nothing.

[mighty flower]

Are the HLL official servers worse than private ones? I've seen a lot of people say they never have admins there so people can grief and cheat and nothing happens

[past veldt]

Exactly that

No guarantee of admins on a community server, and even some of those server admins are trolls, but generally it's better

Those official servers have terrible players though. Far easier to do 'better' on them

You'll find more experienced players on community servers, but it still needs them to actually want to build garrisons etc

[mighty flower]

Why do so many people play on official then?

[placid sierra]

Activity breeds activity? 😛 More players means more players want to join?

Also, it's lower threshhold to get into for newer players? And the playerbase is generally less experienced, thus easier to do well?

(Assumptions)

[past veldt]

Before the Epic release, the only official server which was populated was in South America

[mighty flower]

If someone has a controller symbol next to their name does that mean they're a console player and if they have a steam symbol it means PC player? I didn't know this game had crossplay

[smoky urchin]

No, if they have a controller it means they're either Gamepass/Windows store or Epic users. There is no crossplay between Consoles and PC, only across stores/platforms on PC.

[worthy charm]

Crossplay

[opaque cloud]

Anyone else only have 3 servers show up?

and all are 500 ping

[past veldt]

Turn on Crossplay

[winter depot]

Hi man!!! i am new here! EPIC free game player!

[wind shore]

Hi i'm completely new to the game and wanted to find people to play with, could anybody recommend an EU community? preferably english or polish speaking

[worthy charm]

#pc-divisions-recruitment

[wind shore]

Thx

[sturdy quarry]

i have not kept up with the chat, any updates around wombat replacement or roadmap?

[quick rose]

Roadmap is cancelled. Fun is over.

[sturdy quarry]

both clever and very amusing

[wind shore]

facing 2 issues currently, cant hear anyone and no one can hear me. 2, all uniforms i payed for suddenly disappeard?

[quick rose]

Thx bro ❤️❤️

[sturdy quarry]

level reset bug / account sync bug likely, is everything level 1 again?

audiowise i think you have to keep resetting the mic, think console users had some bodge fix involving the party function (pc has no party)

[wind shore]

nope, i have all the free uniforms, all my levels, all the uniforms i gained from rank but any i payed for in the shop are gone

[sturdy quarry]

hmm not sure then sorry, hopefully someone else can help

[lucid tusk]

How about that roadmap eh?

[polar prism]

2025 roadmap: Tobruk, another map and uniform DLCs

[worthy charm]

It should be more...

[polar prism]

Hopefully

[arctic rampart]

There will be more - the pacific.

[worthy charm]

Your hopes are as realistic as ever😅

[ionic drift]

The new British map
British and the other one overhaul
Probably another map and MAYBE another country
(ADD THE PECIFIC OLEASE I BEG)

[polar prism]

No pacific please

Won't be fun in HLL

[ionic drift]

“No content please”
What else are they gonna add?
A couple things would be a mortar option on support/a new “anti infantry class with a mortar

More buildables
More tanks
More maps
At some point they have to diverge into another country and map type and the pacific is the only one that makes sense

[midnight nacelle]

Bare Knuckle Boxing is rumoured for 2028.

[solar crow]

is there team balancing???

in so many matches it's just new players vs lvl 100s+

[queen kettle]

2024 was a good year for QoL and in game tools (server browser, admin cam). 2025 should be the year for content, 2 maps in 20 months ain't it.

[polar prism]

-A completely overhaul of the tank system to make it more realistic.
->Allows for more AT weapons
-Rifle grenades/AT/smoke
-Attachable bayonets
-Replace scoped FG-42 with a Gewehr
-Bipod for Bar gun (MG class) and ability to change rate of fire
-Select fire
-Adjust range
-Fix Thompson sights
-Mortars

And the list goes on and on, but this is off the top of my head

[slate canopy]

Not really since it just goes based off whoever loads in they pick a side or if there is more in one side than the other you are forced to one side.

[polar prism]

Give me that first, then let's consider the Pacific

[solar crow]

that really sucks

we just got obliterated

[polar prism]

Plus who knows, maybe we'll see the Italians for Tobruk?? 👀

[ionic drift]

Tank overhaul I agree I’ve been asking for it for a while
Including spotters having machine guns 2 person-4person tanks etc etc etc
And I agree with everything else but replacing the fg42
The scoped version should stay in the game

[polar prism]

scoped fg-42 doesn't make sense imo

[ionic drift]

It doesn’t but I personally really love the gun and it’d be great to keep in the game

[polar prism]

Here's a better idea,

For Carentan, replace the Wehrmacht with the Fallschirmjäger

And make it so they only have access to the Fg-42 😄

[polar prism]

Well, regarding TC I was leaning more towards realistic pen values and ballistics

And yeah 4 person tanks, but really depends on the tank

T-34 should only have 3, driver, radio (mg) and commander/gunner

And 2 people for the T-70

[eager crypt]

I’d add bipod for the FG42 given to Auto Rifleman as well as a class rework to rebalance kits and get rid of useless ones (looking at you medics).

[ionic drift]

Yeah i agree a overhaul on pen values and ballistics would be great

My main problem with tanks would be the lack of the spotter doing anything
Light/scout tanks not being 2 person
And heavy tanks not being 4 (gunner spotter driver machine gunner)

[eager crypt]

I do like the idea of a scoped G43 instead of the FG42 but that seems like neat picking when there’s so much more the game needs to address first.

[polar prism]

Well, their fault for adding the T-70 as a light tank

[eager crypt]

But this is all daydreaming until we hear what they’ve got cooking… if ever!

[ionic drift]

Well all tanks should be able to be opirated by 2 people but having the extra 2 for a spotter and a machine gunner on a heavy tank would be so nice

[ionic drift]

There’s a big British overhaul coming but that’s all we know

[silk igloo]

where'd you get this idea

[polar prism]

...again?

[eager crypt]

Yeah, I feel like that already happened wayyyy back…

Aside from more maps to play on, not sure they need anything else either.

[ionic drift]

New map and apparently there’s gonna be a small overhaul
New weapons for the German Africans I’m pretty sure

[polar prism]

We already know about Tobruk

[eager crypt]

I feel like Tobruk will probably come with its division pack adding more cosmetics to the desert Brits and Germans. I’m betting on an Italian uniform and maybe SAS-themed stuff

[polar prism]

Would prefer the Italians in Tobruk tbh

With Rommel's panzer div for tanks

And for the Brits, add an Aussie skin or something

[thin comet]

i suppose wouldn't be so bad if people would swap roles so you wern't just being a spotter for a whole 90mins

[solar crow]

BRO WHEN TEAM BALANCING ADD IT RN

RN!!!!!!!!1

[native python]

Anybody got any gd servers to recommend. South England based on Xbox.

[slate canopy]

Change servers.

[past vortex]

server admins can do it, but its seldomly done - too much work

[humble perch]

It is typically 2 maps in an year(1 every 6 months), depending on when Tobruk releases there is a possibility of 3 maps in 2025.

[past vortex]

not if they spend the first half on creating the roadmap :}

[queen kettle]

Brit maps released May 2023, since then Mortain and Elsenborn, I make that 2 in 20 months

[thin lotus]

lol @ 3 maps a year

Lol @ hll

[humble perch]

2022- Remagen and Kharkov, 2023-Driel and El Alamein, 2024- Mortain and Elsenborn.

[queen kettle]

I’m referring to the track record of T17

[thin lotus]

Here's the 2025 roadmap:
Paid dlc
Free (crappy) helmet
Unannounced map, we already know one coming this year
Map refresh
Weather changes

Anything beyond this list is a surprise to anyone

[queen kettle]

They are developing a new type of fog with even less visibility

[humble perch]

They weren't making any for the majority of 2023 as they were fixing British, For example Mortain got announced in November 2023 and released in April 2024. Elsenborn, announced in June, released in November.

[queen kettle]

Ok fair, you think 2 maps in 20 months is acceptable, I disagree 🤝

[humble perch]

You cannot count, simple as.

[queen kettle]

May 2023 - February 2025 = 20 months, in that time mortain and Elsenborn, what’s controversial about this?

[ionic drift]

the maps are very large and take alot of time to balance areas etc they were also busy for quite a long time (i think they should be aiming for a map every 5-6 months)

[long relic]

no for at

example bazooka

[past vortex]

that clearly depends on the wepon

[lofty bough]

I am not aware of any actual rifles that doesn’t apply to?

[past vortex]

anything that isnt a rifle

ar,smg,at

[lofty bough]

Wait the ppsh and others isn’t at 100m let me check

[past vortex]

for smgs its kinda moot

but for the stg it is noticable

[lofty bough]

Rockets are 50m

and snipers 150m apparently

||but in my defense that was mainly reguarding typical infantry weapons||

[solar crow]

No there's only 1 server I play on with good ping lo l

[slate canopy]

Either find another that works for you or deal with your situation 🤷 not much T17 can do.

[worthy charm]

Thats a bad idea fr

Playing as a squad for be impossible for good players. Imagine when you cant play with friends anymore because youre to good.

[eager crypt]

Another Friday, another no roadmap announcement… oh well.

[candid drift]

happy friday everybody. just to say if you enjoy watch HLL film then look the videos For Tea and Country A Hell Let Loose Film. i make this to show the feel of this game and those crazy HLL moments. i am really enjoy get to learn this game and know the community. ggs.

[oblique garnet]

https://tenor.com/view/party-cakes-tap-gif-14545760890042037060

[azure heath]

so.. roadmap monday?

[spice stream]

yo

[covert elbow]

Predictably, no

[covert elbow]

Hello

[shadow bronze]

Day 10 of requesting Steam Workshop for HLL

[eager crypt]

Day 1,000,000 of requesting functional bipods and fire rate selector.

[arctic rampart]

Day 999,999 of saying that a fire rate selector is a waste of time to add

[cold kiln]

agreed

[arctic rampart]

With this recoil system it's just not needed

Nor' is throwing grenades back

Cause they're already memes when it comes to effectiveness

[wind shore]

Haaii

[vagrant night]

https://www.reddit.com/r/HellLetLoose/comments/1ik6972/my_first_propper_engineer_experience_in_this_game/ first ever proper engineer experience.

[covert elbow]

That I can agree with

It sucks that to even justify adding stuff like this the game needs to be heavily overhauled to have stuff added

Like there’s no point in adding new tanks because unless it’s a heavy it will never be used

And even then there will more then likely be a go to heavy tank like the panthers or Churchill

[arctic rampart]

Yup

So, as we all know...

they should just add the pacific

[covert elbow]

Preach brother

do you think they’ve fallen for it yet

[arctic rampart]

someone falls for it every single day

[eager crypt]

Y’all are asking for the pacific to be added, while it already takes this team months to come up with a roadmap 😅

[covert elbow]

that’s the joke

[eager crypt]

At this stage, I’d even be happy with a roadmap for the roadmap.

[covert elbow]

also the pacific should never be added because it’s a stupid idea

[eager crypt]

Sorry, everything is first degree in this house. Joking ist verboten.

[arctic rampart]

no it's not

we need more pacific suggestions

[covert elbow]

Darn

[thin lotus]

ADD 👏
MORE 👏
FOG 👏
AND👏
NIGHT👏
MAPS👏

🤭🤭🤭🤭🤭

[eager crypt]

If only S44 had HLL player counts, then all my dilemmas would be solved.

[arctic rampart]

[covert elbow]

Oh don’t forget the M1941 Johnson and silenced weapons!

[thin lotus]

Literally all this game needs is more fog

[arctic rampart]

Could use a red dot for my mp40 whilst you're at it

[thin lotus]

Then it’d be perfect

[covert elbow]

And the ability to have a pistol along with my primary

Don’t y’all know every solider got equipped a sidearm?

[arctic rampart]

ngl, I thought about the workshop thingy

[eager crypt]

That would also have a red dot AND a silencer.

[arctic rampart]

Would be pretty dope to get a skin on the mp40 or gewehr

[eager crypt]

Only then I’d be at peace

[covert elbow]

Yep yep

[covert elbow]

Some accurate weapon skins would be really fun

Get a scoped Gewher and wrap some cloth on the barrel

[arctic rampart]

And some steam workshop inaccurate ones that are purely client-sided also would be really fun

I remember my childhood, opening like 50 tabs in firefox to download cs 1.6 gun skins from gamebanana.

🥹

[covert elbow]

If it’s client side idgaf do what you want

It hurts nobody

[tacit basin]

Guys, I have a problem with the game because when it tells me to click any button to enter the game, nothing happens, my friend had the same problem, does anyone know how to deal with it?

[arctic rampart]

Yeah, but I think the steam workshop addition is a bigger fever dream then the pacific ngl

[arctic rampart]

https://discord.com/channels/316459644476456962/1324513094055231569

[covert elbow]

Yea…

[thin lotus]

If its client side I want my targets to glow neon green

[covert elbow]

The more I think about it the more I realize S:44 is just A better HLL in almost every way

[arctic rampart]

You'd have a chance to add client-side fog

[covert elbow]

It’s why HLL wanted to be but failed incredibly hard

[covert elbow]

Okay

The amount of people who will actually use those models are very small

Just look at BF1

[arctic rampart]

The more I think about it the more I realize BF4 is just A better BF2042 in almost every way
It’s why 2042 wanted to be but failed incredibly hard

[thin lotus]

Bad company 2 was better

These recent bf games have way too much bloat

[arctic rampart]

More of a taste thing there.
In my eyes, I'll accept BC2 = BF3 = BF4 = BF1 as a valid answer.
Each have certain aspects that made them great games.

Oh wait, I'll need to edit that. BC2 = BF3 = BF4 = BF1 < BFH

[finite berry]

insert wide putin walking gif here

[covert elbow]

Haha

[eager crypt]

Everytime I bring up stuff I’d like to see added in HLL, I realize that it’s been core features of S44 from beginning…

Again, all S44 is missing to take its rightful place as king of the WW2 shooters is a bigger player base… and a bit more polish and stable performance.

[covert elbow]

Yea haha

[covert elbow]

Hopefully they get to a state where they can port it to console. Then it’ll flourish

[eager crypt]

Unlike a lot of PC mil-sim gatekeepers, I’d welcome that. That’s definitely the reason why this and Arma Reforger are blowing up right now.

I just don’t have much hope it ever happens… base squad still isn’t on console, and I feel like that’s where they’d start.

[pine ember]

No, its an entirely different kind of game

[covert elbow]

Yea, it’s a functional thought out game that does what it’s designed to do

HLL ain’t that

[pine ember]

Debatable

[covert elbow]

False

[finite berry]

Funny thing is that if only half the amount of the people who are like "Squad 44 is great and I would play if it had more players" would actually play the game, there probably wouldn't be an issue with player base size 😄

[finite berry]

Eh, I doubt it will ever happen, honestly. And if it happened, not anytime soon.

[finite berry]

In what way?

[covert elbow]

I don’t have a good enough PC to run it nor do I enjoy PC gaming

[eager crypt]

I knew I knew you from somewhere! 😄

[finite berry]

😉

[covert elbow]

If they had controller support I might considering buying it

[finite berry]

It has partial controller support

[covert elbow]

Yep

[finite berry]

You need to take into consideration, however, that Squad 44 demands a lot more from the player than HLL and Reforger. Furthermore, it has way more mechanics and functions, so many that I'm genuinely doubting there's enough buttons on a controller for it.

I'm not one of those "PC masterrace" gatekeepers, but I really don't know whether a console port would be a good idea. And it definitely wouldn't be right now.

[pine ember]

S44 is a lot more Hardcore while HLL is harder than your average shooter, but far from S44. It demands way more from the player

[eager crypt]

While they streamlined it a lot, I would argue that Arma Reforger is still more complex than S44. Yet they seem to have done a decent job with the PS port based on the reception there.

[pine ember]

And while I enjoy it’s accuracy, it’s too hard to get into, and I love HLL too much to abandon it, I also don’t really have much time to get into another Game

[eager crypt]

The potential for goofing around is higher though, and the sandbox nature of the game makes it easier to jump in for many

[finite berry]

It is? Care to elaborate? I don't know anything about Reforger.

[eager crypt]

I do agree that it caters to different player types: S44 is closer to a simulation, while HLL leans more arcade

[finite berry]

Absolutely understandable and valid position. Same reason why I never got into HLL.

[finite berry]

HLL pretty much is Battlefield with a very clear "hey kid, you really should use that mic" and OHK.

[finite berry]

Good point, but I can also tell that the devs are working on better in-game help, tips and tutorials

To adress that issue

[eager crypt]

It has a lot of systems like complete supply/resource chain (similar to Squad in that regard), realistic ballistics accounting for pen/distance, etc, a more fleshed out medical system with different ways to tend to wounds, more complex comms with different channels you need to manually input and enemy team can hijack (interesting gameplay opportunity tbh)...

I just recently got into it so I'm likely missing some, but it's pretty in-depth. They're about to add mortars and additional vehicles too

[pine ember]

S44? Absolutely, once I have time I will definetely play it more often

[finite berry]

The medical system sounds like super fun. Not a fan of hijacking comm channels, tho...

[finite berry]

When you do, shoot me a message! I'll gladly show you around and help you get in!

[pine ember]

Its just hard to get into games, whenever I open HLL, there is a fitting server which is not the case for S44

[pine ember]

Thanks

I think we even chatted about that before XDD

[finite berry]

Yeah, that unfortunately still is a problem. Squad 44 is not dead and even with 400 players you can fill multiple servers and have a good time, but the 24/7 server availability that you guys are used to from HLL, eh, nope, can't guarantee that

[finite berry]

Could be, not sure, but I don't remember it now if we did :D

[pine ember]

Which is not a problem

[finite berry]

It really isn't, I agree.

This may sound a bit like cope now, but there are times where I'm actually glad about the low player count because it leads to the community working closer together

[pine ember]

A good and dedicated playerbase that keeps the game alive is something wonderful

[pine ember]

Yes, thats it

[finite berry]

Absolutely!

[pine ember]

I enjoyed HLL the most in 2020-21, before and right after the full release

Maybe its just nostalgics, but it was soooo good

[finite berry]

Yeah, often nostalgia is talking there 😄

You take the good things of what's now for granted and look at what was better back then with nostalgia

[gentle verge]

I would say yeah thats kinda a bit of a cope most games by necessity need new players otherwise it starts costing money to run the game in any meaningful sense its either that or heavily monetize existing players which can be done well but can also be a whale hunting nightmare

[finite berry]

Getting new players never was Squad 44's problem. When we had our free weekend in December (?) last year, player count surged to 3,000 or so. There is a huge interest in this game. Squad 44's nemesis is player retention. And also here, devs are having ideas and even developing some stuff already that's supposed to tackle that issue.

[gentle verge]

Is there like a widely known reason why people drop out is it like a large time investment or "mean" playerbase thing ?

[finite berry]

Furthermore, Post Scriptum (back then) was dead in the water for an entire year, no active development, bugged as hell, the entire Chapter II (1940 France) with three maps not working, optimisation was garbage, the game was barely held alive by an ever-shrinking, loyal playerbase. OWI bought the game and hired part-time devs that are now on their payroll. Believe me, OWI would've never acquired Squad 44 if they didn't believe they couldn't get it back onto its feet and make it make money again

[pine ember]

I really enjoy watching videos of S44

[past vortex]

the visuals are not up to date tho

[eager crypt]

Fair, but the soundscape is bar none

[pine ember]

Thats also a reason which holds me back, maybe its more realistic but HLL looks more realistic

[finite berry]

Believe me, you won't care about graphics as much anymore when you're actually in a battle 😄

[pine ember]

Fair point though

[finite berry]

But yeah, Squad 44's graphics overall are inferior to HLL's, there is no denying that

[finite berry]

this ^^

[covert elbow]

I’m hoping the UE5 update allows them to get better visuals

[finite berry]

That's only happening to Squad

[covert elbow]

I thought the devs said they were gonna port S:44 to UE5

[finite berry]

Nope

Not happening

At least not now, and if it's gonna happen, not anytime soon

Porting a game to UE5 takes an insane amount of time and work. It's not like there is a simple "Upgrade" button to press and whoop! your game now looks great

If I'm not mistaken, all the assets for the Pacific (that were created from scratch) would need to get remade so they are suitable for UE5, for example

[covert elbow]

Yea, just thought they were planning on it

It’s probably the same situation of HLL where they want to but can’t

[finite berry]

Perhaps, but like I said, not anytime soon, unfortunately. :(

[past vortex]

so s44 is also ue4?

[finite berry]

yes

[finite berry]

Yup, most likely.

[finite berry]

I think it's a mixture of multiple reasons.

1. optimisation still being meh (despite it being a lot better thanks to now active development)
2. bad reputation ("squad 44 is dead")
3. complete lack of player progression (planned features are medals, global player stats and perhaps even historically accurate unlockables (like cosmetics))
4. the game being very hard to get into and there being almost no in-game help

I'd say the community is very mature and friendly, also towards new players (naturally, there are some black sheep that are very impolite towards new players)

[covert elbow]

I’m still mad at HLL for its cosmetic system

At this point I don’t even think they can give us an actual customization system because of all the “DLC”’s they’ve sold

[past vortex]

only thing hll is acyually bad at is the insanly bad hardware usage

[wind shore]

.

[finite berry]

I think a cosmetic system is fine in this type of game (and I treat Squad 44 and HLL equally here) if it makes sense. And winter uniforms in North Africa don't make sense. You get the idea.

[covert elbow]

It’s very basic to a fault though

[past vortex]

a real outfit customization isnt too hard tho

[finite berry]

Sorry, what do you mean?

[past vortex]

so kinda oldfashioned....

[covert elbow]

Can’t choose between pants and jackets, no patches or insignia options, can’t get more in depth with the helmets, etc

It’s just helmet, face, and uniform

Also how the hell did they screw up hair

[past vortex]

but that the last thing i care about

[covert elbow]

It’s like they took a look at BFV and decided to use it

And BFV’s is fine but everyone harped on it because it’s way to basic and doesn’t allow for much expression

I wouldn’t be suprised if they add face paint next

[past vortex]

wrong

you express yourself with gun skins

:D

[finite berry]

Aaah, I see what you mean

[finite berry]

I'm genuinely curious to see what they are gonna add next at all

Aside from Tobruk

[covert elbow]

Idk

I’ve heard rumors of stuff but you never know

[finite berry]

What rumours?

[gentle verge]

Yeah that kinda sounds like a mess

[finite berry]

It's getting fixed, but it takes time and loooots of work

[covert elbow]

Gameplay fixes, new maps, the usual

Pretty sure it’s just speculation from my friends though

[finite berry]

gotcha, thanks

[covert elbow]

No ones actually shown me any proof of them happening

[tulip pebble]

I gotta lock in for a battle against some german units soon, I just gotta pray my tank commander makes me the gunner cuz he already knows Im god at that shi

[novel girder]

RIP PSN?

Yeah, rip PSN

[midnight nacelle]

The PlayStation Network is currently down.

https://status.playstation.com/

[wintry thistle]

It's over

[past vortex]

arr

[cyan current]

I tried to help seed the 77th server, but got hit with insane (and numerous) lag spike, is it something I need to get used to sometimes?

[slate canopy]

First couple times loading the game?

[lucid tusk]

Player expression should be avoided as most players are idiots

Case in point, BFV

[covert elbow]

If you have correct uniforms it’s fine

Besides it’s already pretty avaliable in game

The winter face with hat or hair being a pretty common option

They could also just add a player cosmetics only option

[north glade]

PSN back up?

[primal egret]

Any tank crews in here I need a gunner and driver that use mic

[azure hearth]

[wraith edge]

If anyone is looking for a Hell let Loose community to join where you can play with similar experiance players or season vets pm me on discord for a new community im getting together

[midnight nacelle]

Still ongoing. 🥲

[plush night]

alright yall, who's in the new player heaven server farming us new guys

you guys are like 200+

[keen gorge]

all of these new player completely ruined to layout of the combat in the games

[iron nest]

Any idea on how to grind quickly

[worthy charm]

Bob the builder would be the fastest.

You sell your soul tho to get onto there

[solar crow]

playing commander got me to rank up quickly

not a role for everyone tho

[keen glen]

play for fun buddy

[arctic rampart]

This: https://discord.com/channels/316459644476456962/1336563370756673558

[frank walrus]

I'm going through hll withdrawal for 2 weeks now send help

[dapper bluff]

And ruin the spirit of the game... if you like level up properly: MAKE NODES AND THEN CHANGE CLASS! you will rank up not faster like in XP Farm but at least you'll learn each role properly

[arctic rampart]

That's literally what that guide shows

[misty belfry]

Where are you based?

[neat garnet]

Are playstation servers down

[midnight nacelle]

Ongoing... 🥲

[onyx dagger]

Hello roadmap for June 25 ?

[arctic rampart]

Pacific

[azure heath]

so.. roadmap next week?

[gentle lintel]

Releasing roadmap was so big, it broke psn

[strong vapor]

server off ? @gentle lintel

[cyan saddle]

I have heard rumours that this is true

[gentle lintel]

psn is down, pc should be fine

[plucky halo]

Can anyone hlep me? Im stuck on the loading screen on epic games.

[river rover]

Go here and read the top pinned messages and configure your 2 required firewalls.

https://discord.com/channels/316459644476456962/1271718922734796865

Be sure game is on internal SSD and not on regular HDD or external drive. You'll also want to delete the webcache folder, be sure date\time are correct and set to automatic and synced with the Internet. Go to the easyanticheat folder and run the easyanticheat_EOS_setup by Right clicking on it and running as administrator. It will blink and you may get prompt and select YES.

[primal egret]

Any one want to play armor I need a gunner and driver

[plucky halo]

Does my game have to be on an SSD?

[primal egret]

So no one here plays armor?

[river rover]

It's best to be, because if you even get past the screen you'll possibly only receive other errors when joining servers like "Lost Connection to Host". Some people can have it working on HDD but if the error above happens. That's the reason. Some also haven't been able to get past the screen you are stuck on because of being on regular HDD.

[plucky halo]

Ok thanks

[river rover]

If you still need help you can DM me.

[plucky halo]

👍

[hallow thistle]

when is Tobak comming?

[finite berry]

*Tobruk

And no idea, still waiting for the roadmap

[tranquil vigil]

Why medic's melton winter coat is duller than other classes melton winter coat?

[pine ember]

When roadmap?

[past vortex]

[azure heath]

no, it's tobakko

[azure heath]

🙏

[keen glen]

what is it

[finite berry]

Next map

[keen glen]

tobruk means past in my langugae

[keen glen]

it will be uk vs ita ?

or what

[finite berry]

UK vs Germany

I think

[keen glen]

why no italy

@developer

[pine ember]

Unbalanced and unnecessary work when you already have DAK

[keen glen]

dak?

[finite berry]

Deutsches Afrikakorps

[wind shore]

Anyone else super framey on Xbox servers?

[iron nest]

Is there any urban map in this game

All I'm seeing thus far are miles and miles of greenery

[slate canopy]

Some maps have areas of urban. But... most battles ya know, aren't in the middle of town. Carentan is the most urban map that I can think of.

Middle midpoint is called Town Center.

[iron nest]

So no Berlin, Chambois, or like Aachen?

[solar crow]

No

[slate canopy]

Nothing yet.

[iron nest]

Dang

[slate canopy]

Although Tobruk teaser showed urban too

[wind shore]

Can anyone access the servers

[iron nest]

Tobruk, eh

Doubt it'll have a good urban map

[red stump]

there are a couple maps that have decent 'cqb urban' areas

they also have fields though so

[iron nest]

Yeah I mean like urban-urban

Aachen, Remagen, Berlin, Stalingrad, etc

[red stump]

i mean..stalingrad is ..in the game

[iron nest]

It is?

[slate canopy]

Yup

[red stump]

yikes.

[iron nest]

Haven't found any

[slate canopy]

https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/hellletloose/images/7/76/Stalingrad_TacMap03.png/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/1000?cb=20210626125249
Excuse the long link, it's a picture of the map.

[iron nest]

I mean in the past 10 matches I got like 5 purple heart lanes and other Normandy maps

[iron nest]

oooh that's nice

[past vortex]

depends on the server you play on

[slate canopy]

All depends on the server. You're on community? Sometimes it's a set of maps selected and rotated. Some vote for them. Some have set maps for specific time (ie normandy maps for around normandy time)

[past vortex]

many community servers have only a selection

[iron nest]

Crazy how Stalingrad isn't that common in my nearby servers

[past vortex]

russia faction has been looked down on a lot

some just ignore it

[red stump]

historically, that checks out

[past vortex]

(i dont agree but so it is)

[iron nest]

I mean... when your maps are mostly designed for long range encounters-

I feel like they'd dominate in urban maps though?

71-round of 1200 rpm bullet storm?

[past vortex]

doesnt mean THAT much

but yea can be good

[red stump]

ppsh good, high rate of fire good

red star bad :(

[past vortex]

the russian AT gun is one reason why many hate it

its kinda special :}

[iron nest]

Ah-

That makes sense

[past vortex]

in theory it has more ammo than any other AT tho

[slate canopy]

Doesn't Russian AT get a rocket launcher at the higher level? or am I forgetting wrong?

[wind shore]

Jogo ta mt caro

[past vortex]

yea lvl 8

[wind shore]

deixa na promo pfv kk

[iron nest]

They get a zook

[past vortex]

bazooka also isnt that good tho :}

in theory the AT gun can kill more

[slate canopy]

gotta get those shots - and not get seen lol

[past vortex]

yea its hard

but in theory you can kill multiple heavies without restocking ammo

bazooka cant even kill one

[iron nest]

Can't the zook just... ammorack?

[past vortex]

no

[slate canopy]

It was so tough when Max and I played tank a couple weeks ago as Russians... and having like 3-4 AT rockets hunting us down on Kursk while we're stuck trying to kill the tanks LOL

[iron nest]

I mean it's like what? 80mm of shaped charge?

[past vortex]

the whole tank damage model isnt realistic

quite arbitrary and glitchy

[cyan saddle]

There's no weak spots at all. Assuming the shot penetrates the hull (depending on angle) it deals a consistent amount of damage to it depending on whether you're hitting the front, side, or back.

[gentle verge]

yeah but that's nothing new pretty much only warthunder makes a real attempt at modeling it and that has a number of issues from a gameplay perspective

[past vortex]

squad44 has very nice tank damage model

[iron nest]

Technically, Enlisted is a new thing but-

[gentle verge]

trap card

[cyan saddle]

HLL had it too. Not to the level of SQ44 but still

[gentle verge]

😛 you know it i know it

[past vortex]

yea enlisted too, but thats warthunder

[wintry thistle]

Enlisted is dumb

[cyan saddle]

But in U9 and U10 they threw it all away in favor of the system we hav enow

[past vortex]

naw its fine

[wintry thistle]

Fighting bots is fun to you?

[gentle verge]

its a ok bot shooting thing for when i really cant be bothered to think

[wintry thistle]

Not to mention the battle royals system of getting downed. So goofy

[past vortex]

well im a enlisted vet
and i dont always fight bots :}

but yea it has a lot of downsides

[wintry thistle]

Isn’t fighting bots part of the game. Since there’s only like 6 or 8 people on a team

[past vortex]

the engine is MUCH better than hll tho !

[past vortex]

yea its max 10 v 10, and often less

but its also smaller maps and quicker

[gentle verge]

I'm sure there probably is like a decent hardcore community but also rudeness gajin they aren't getting any more of my money.

[past vortex]

cant compare it to hll, enlisted is a zerg rush

[past vortex]

unlike warthunder you can play enlisted f2p tho

its not really p2w

[wintry thistle]

You can play the WW2 stuff in WT F2P

[past vortex]

yea

[wintry thistle]

The grind gets bad once you get past WW2

[gentle verge]

you can also hammer a nail in with your hand its free but its far from opitmal

[red stump]

i tried enlisted, it seemed like a lot going on for no reason

[past vortex]

ofc the grind is a huge downside on enlisted

[red stump]

i dont want to have to tech tree my battle bots to eternity

[past vortex]

but its also fun on lower BR

you can have nice rifle games

yeayea, its not a no-brainer recommendation, but its not all bad

[iron nest]

Stupid implementation, but great premise

It reminded me of Brothers In Arms, but then I realize the bots are just plain stupid

[past vortex]

its a good example how much you can get out of hardware
leaves hll really looking bad

[wintry thistle]

The game runs fine. I feel like it’s just gaijin testing out infantry

[past vortex]

if you get a battle with some decent players its MUCH fun, especially high BR

[wintry thistle]

Their a decently wealthy company with a monopoly on combined arms combat

[past vortex]

enlisted is actually made by some poor russians

[wintry thistle]

So it seems like they want to branch out as much as possible

[iron nest]

An accidental monopoly I'd say

[past vortex]

they get the vehicles from WT

[wintry thistle]

Yeah definitely. WT is a good game, but yeah they have no competition

[iron nest]

As someone who also came from Enlisted, the one thing I kinda despise (although expected) in this game is the extraordinary amount of time I need to spend to get that dopamine hit (that, and the silly tank HP mechanism)

Which is the reason why I need urban maps

[past vortex]

i dont even play tans in enlisted anymore

enlisted battles are won by infantry

just spawn a plane when needed

otherwise rush :}

[iron nest]

True but sometimes you just wanna sit back and relax

[past vortex]

then i play hll, there is no relaxing in enlisted :}

ok i sometimes relax in a plane, but its suboptimal :D

[iron nest]

Funny thing is, I haven't got the hang of HLL

[past vortex]

:O

[gentle verge]

turn command vc down by at least 50% and try and have fun ?

(kinda almost joking)

[past vortex]

bad idea

[iron nest]

I'm not sure if milsims and fun belong in the same sentence

[gentle verge]

that's kinda the thing they can be fun but they can also be an excuse for people to become middle mangers of the worst kind

[past vortex]

the fun in hll is when you communicate and with that achieve some goal

appart from rushing the point

[iron nest]

My dopamine-addicted brain can't handle it I think

200m~ from a garrison to the frontline, and with that run speed

[past vortex]

it gives me dopamine when my squad takes out theeir garry, or sets up an attacking garry, or hunts down a tank

[iron nest]

Get sniped outta nowhere even tho I kept my head down and stuck to covers

Guess it's just my own skill issue

[gentle verge]

become one with the bush

also its likely moving around that gives you away

[iron nest]

OH and that also reminds me

I mean it is historically accurate for the Americans to have Garands, but-

Isn't that a huge balancing problem?

[past vortex]

you are supposed to snipe them 1st :}

[past vortex]

not really

bolt-action is better in some situation, and only some germans have them anyway

the only class that forces a KAR on you is the panzerschreck loadout basically

[finite berry]

What dopamine hit? You mean constant action?

[past vortex]

thats a tradeoff for the panzerschreck being the best AT

[iron nest]

If you put it like that, yeah

[past vortex]

enlisted basically :}

[finite berry]

They absolutely do. It's just that fun doesn't derive from constant action and "omg multi kill", but from the elaborate team work and communication and coordination

[iron nest]

Issa joke, been playing ARMA since forever

[finite berry]

Keep it up and you'll get used to it. It's worth it, believe me.

[iron nest]

Well, on and off, that is

[finite berry]

If there is one thing that HLL and actual mil-sims teach you, that is that you don't need constant action to have fun

[finite berry]

Not in a OHK-game

And at some point, screw balance and make it historically accurate

A skilled player with a K98k will wipe the floor with five Garand guys

[iron nest]

The Panzer IIIs facing T-34s in the early 1941s:

[gentle verge]

Pretty much most rifles are a single hit kill at any realistic range your going to be landing hits on

[finite berry]

Make it super historically accurate and give the T-34 a 20s reload and a hopelessly overworked gunner in a cramped turret :D

[gentle verge]

so it turns it into a game of who becomes aware of the other first

[finite berry]

My honest opinion: yes, do that. Skilled players will send the T-34 crying back to Moscow

[gentle verge]

there is basicaly no counter play either if you get seen you get ded and likely wont know where it came from either there is little feedback to being shot at

[finite berry]

But HLL's armour system is garbage anyway, so eh, tanks are not a good example

[iron nest]

Right yeah, until a similarly skilled squad of Garands meet a squad of K98s

[finite berry]

whisper like in an actual armed conflict whisper

[gentle verge]

almost like it was the point or somthing 😛

[finite berry]

Then the squad of K98ks has to relocate or think of other tactics to defeat the enemy

Or disengage and reengage later when it's more feasible

Believe me, it works, and yes, it's fun

[gentle verge]

information becomes much more important than like snap aiming (though that's not to say you cant not be able to click heads you still need that as well)

[finite berry]

Yeah, and that's what the newbies coming from games like Enlisted or even Battlefield have to learn first. Think tactical, don't always engage, try to win the battle instead of getting as many kills as possible

[iron nest]

Well, as far as I know no amount of skill can help a snub-nosed 50mm PzGr 39 pen a T-34, checks notes, anywhere (?)

[finite berry]

Shoot off tracks, shoot the side or simply disengage when you realise you wouldn't survive the encounter

[iron nest]

I guess but then surely it's not "balanced" no

Which is fine

[finite berry]

No, of course it's not balanced

[finite berry]

But, again, HLL's tank system is garbage, so tanks are a poor example

[iron nest]

But in the end it's a two-edged sword I think

Leaving a faction definitively advantageous is an... interesting choice I think

[finite berry]

I think it's best for HLL that they went with a system that is overall rather historically accurate, but allows freedom from that in favour of "balanced gameplay"

Just saying that sacrificing balance in favour of historical accuracy absolutely works and is still fun to play

I come from Squad 44 where that's the case, and it works

[iron nest]

Squad 44?

[finite berry]

Formerly Post Scriptum, perhaps known under that name?

[iron nest]

Ah PS

[finite berry]

Yes

[iron nest]

Yeah course I heard

[wintry thistle]

Frontally not much. In real life until the T-34 85, the T-34 was the most cramped, tactically ineffective main tank of any nation. The commander had to fire the gun, a cramped interior, no radios in every tank until 1943, reliability issues, no turret basket and many other soft factors. There’s a reason why half of the built T-34s were destroyed/written off

[finite berry]

But with the way that HLL took, it moved itself to a position that allowed still many casual players that enjoy the game while keeping some hardcore mechanics like OHK

Although it still gives me pain seeing Panthers at Stalingrad or StG 44s in North Africa 🥲

[wintry thistle]

T-34s were also minor in numbers compared to the literal thousands of BTs and T-26s in 1941

[subtle tinsel]

hello I am new to the server so please explain to me how it works

[iron nest]

Well, with the sloped armor, even the sides and back are barely penetrable with APCRs.... at unrealistically short ranges

Not to mention the KV-1

[slate canopy]

If you're looking for folks to play with, go to #pc-looking-for-unit . There are clans that you can join and play with in #pc-divisions-recruitment . Some good guides to learn the game are in #1273828697941606450 . I'd suggest this 10 minute video learn the basics: #telegrams message

[wintry thistle]

The sides can be penned if it’s shot at a decent enough angle. The KV-1 not so much. But these tanks were in little numbers compared to the vast majority of Russian tanks in 1941

[raw sequoia]

what class can give anti tank rounds?

[slate canopy]

Support.

[finite berry]

I think you're overestimating the thickness of the rear and side armour

[raw sequoia]

only support?

[slate canopy]

I know support level 3 for sure. It looks like Rifleman does on various levels (except U.S.?) (I don't have Rifleman leveled up so I know nothing of the loadouts)

[wintry thistle]

German reports go in detail about how their Panzer IIIs would flank T-34s and take them out due to the terrible tactical awareness of T-34s

[gentle verge]

you can't just make a cube thats stonkbig and expect it to actually get to the fight in time and holes to look out of are a problem but so is not knowing your going into mudpit its all tradeoffs

[iron nest]

Maybe if the Panzer III has a decent enough high ground and using the Gr40. About the numbers, well, they might have small numbers when compared to the total of Russian tanks in 1941, but compared to the Germans' they're pretty decent. Around 2k T-34s fielded at the start of Barbarossa compared to the total of 3k-ish German tanks

And, the fact that it's a game buffed the most excruciating weakness of the T-34. The lack of radios.

[finite berry]

The Panzergranate 39 is absolutely capable of penetrating the T-34's rear and side

[iron nest]

The PzGr 39 has a pen of 45-50 (forgot the exact number) at point blank and 90 deg angle. The T-34 has a side armor of 45mm and a back armor of 40mm which I believe is sloped at a 60 degree angle.

[finite berry]

45-50 at a 30° angle

[raw sequoia]

artillery ruin this game

friendly artillery does more damage than the enemy does to its own team

[wind shore]

Hey I’m literally playing my first game as we speak. Can anybody give me a run through of it

[covert elbow]

Yea US Rifleman doesn’t as a left over from the AT Rocket debacle a few years ago

[gentle verge]

if the squad lead is talking and seems to know what they are doing pick support and follow them around and drop supplys where they ask

that can pretty much win the game

otherwise pick medic or rifleman and try to follow the main bulk stay with your green pips on the map

[pine ember]

It was also done to nerf the US since there was a phase where the US was way more powerful than the Germans, same reason why "inaccurate" loadouts got introduced, to balance things out

[finite berry]

I recommend you ask in #new-recruit-barracks.

[gentle verge]

only they can see your pings

[gentle verge]

but yeah thats the place for actually asking that one

[covert elbow]

Still funny to me how the obvious solution was just to actually flesh out and create game mechanics but instead BM decided the band aid fix

It’s their entire MO to be honest

And then they just forget to take the band aid off after the wound “healed” and instead slapped another on

[pine ember]

Asymetrical balance isnt that easy

[covert elbow]

Not even talking about that. I’m talking about actual gun mechanics and physics

And also you can absolutely do it but you have to have systems in games that allow it, which HLL doesn’t have

[gentle verge]

What do you mean exactly?

[finite berry]

Like fire selector?

[covert elbow]

No

[covert elbow]

Like having recoil to the gun so spamming shots or automatic fire becomes innacurate after a bit, having to think about ammo with persistent magazines so people aren’t topped up all the time, having sway on the gun if not in the correct position to fire after long ranges, etc

The guns in the game are way to easy and simple, leading to the game being forced to give the Germans way to much fire power to counter the U.S. while the Brit’s and Soviets struggle against them

And the Soviets do well because they she’s SMG’s out the whazoo but pretty much everyone I’ve played with agrees the Brit’s suck

Except on El Alamein which does have a semblance of Asymmetrical balance and is honestly one of the better experiences fight wise

Terrain is debatable but the actual sides facing each other feel the most well balanced

[silk igloo]

El alamein would be more bearable for people if it was much flatter. It's the vantage points on hills that make MGs deadly. On flat ground I can only see to the next bump and no further.

[finite berry]

Wait, HLL does NOT have persistent magazines???

I thought it did

[past vortex]

yea its kinda shocking

[covert elbow]

Really?

It’s never had that. It’s always been an ammo pool as far as I can recall

[finite berry]

...wow

That's like idiotic CoD mechanics

[covert elbow]

Tbh there’s a lot of stuff people believe is in game but isn’t a thing

[covert elbow]

YES. YES IT IS

[finite berry]

How should I have known? :')

[past vortex]

its the thing that made me wonder most

[covert elbow]

JUST LIKE EVERYTHING IN THIS GAME ITS BAD BF OR COD MECHANICS

[past vortex]

even enlisted has it :}

[covert elbow]

Idk

[covert elbow]

That’s what I’m saying

[finite berry]

Non-persistent magazines are so dumb

[covert elbow]

HLL touts itself as a “Hardcore MilSim Tactical Shooter” when Helldivers 2 is more hardcore and MilSim like

In reality HLL is an arcade shooter with only a few “hardcore” mechanics

[past vortex]

the other oxymoron is that many see hll as an cometitive fps when it has the worst latencies of all games :}

its shocking it tell you :}

[covert elbow]

Yea. Tbh I’ve always hated the Comp scene because they absolutely influenced the games direction under BM

[finite berry]

In what way?

[gentle verge]

For the rifles it kinda makes sense stripper clips can be broken up quickly enough but for magazine fed stuff its kinda less excusable though at the same time when did you last have a life in hll that ammo management actually meant anything

[covert elbow]

I remember hearing how they tried new things but the Comp groups collectively agreed that they didn’t like it and got it reverted

[gentle verge]

aside from AT dragging around a dude for more rockets 😛

[covert elbow]

Another thing that needs to be fixed

[past vortex]

well they create the most social media

[covert elbow]

Sadly haha

[past vortex]

why sadly

i enjoy the tournaments

[gentle verge]

yeah wouldnt set your hopes too high on that one but one can dream

[covert elbow]

I remember one being the red zone garrisons. They took it out to for a bit to test it and the comp scene absolutely bashed the hell out of it so much it never got tuned up to actually fit the game like it should have, instead being banished to the void

[gentle verge]

i'd just like adjustable irons

[finite berry]

I see

[covert elbow]

Same

[past vortex]

i only need it to run about twice as fast cpu wise
would be an amazing game

[gentle verge]

like that a small enough reasonable change and if they are feeling brave it could be a jumping off point for a ballistics rework

[covert elbow]

Now that’s an actual dream right there

[gentle verge]

😛 isnt it

[covert elbow]

Speaking of weapons I need to post that melee overhaul suggestion

I’ve been brewing it for a while

[wintry thistle]

Like Elise said below the PZG 39 is capable of penning the side of T-34s given the proper angle

[gentle verge]

DDR style duel rhythm game ?

[covert elbow]

The wha

No it’s just a change to add weapon bashing and bayonet thrusts

[finite berry]

Oh, yes, and after that, armour rework :D

[wintry thistle]

The German Democratic Republic

[covert elbow]

And the spawn rework

[finite berry]

Or Dance Dance Revolution :')

[wintry thistle]

Or that

[finite berry]

Ah yes, a man can dream

[gentle verge]

You can have both but it was the dance one

bust a move or get bust in the head with a entreching tool ?

[remote vessel]

aaaa

[thorny meadow]

Where is tobruk?

[finite berry]

Libya

third time's the charme, aye :D

[pallid tiger]

i have probleme

no server found

[brisk cradle]

Hey guys in your opinion what is the best German tank?

[wintry thistle]

In game?

[brisk cradle]

Yes

[wintry thistle]

Panther

[brisk cradle]

I’m thinking tiger

But panther is what everyone says

[iron nest]

Leopard 2A7V

[brisk cradle]

I was wondering why

[wintry thistle]

I don’t play HLL that much. But everyone says Panther, think it’s faster

[iron nest]

No idea about how it works here, but the Panther has a longer gun albeit a smaller caliber (more velocity, more penetration) and sloped armor

[wintry thistle]

I don’t think the game differentiates between the two

There’s no HE difference between the 88 and 75mm

[iron nest]

Oh dang

[brisk cradle]

Hmm

[arctic rampart]

I'm pretty sure in-game the difference is movement speed and reload speed

[covert elbow]

Panther. Heavy armor, sloped as well so it can bounce shots, heavy firepower, quickish reload and can maneuver very fast

[covert elbow]

Yea that’s not a factor here

[brisk cradle]

Also do any tanks have a gun for the commander?

[covert elbow]

No

[wind shore]

Is there a channel to look for a team?

[finite berry]

#pc-looking-for-unit

[wind shore]

thanks, had it hidden for some reason

[slate canopy]

If you go to the top left on desktop to the down arrow next to the words "Hell Let Loose" you can do "Show all channels"

[wind shore]

Why dont the servers appear?

[past vortex]

arr

[rare sphinx]

akamehitaki is a cheater lmfao

[past vortex]

crossplay on in settings
reset filters

[wind shore]

Thank you so much. I ve been working on this all day😅

[past vortex]

23hours now :} goPSN :D

[sonic ibex]

Does anyone else agree that it’s worth letting Germany win to hear Erika

[tough briar]

just had a game where i placed 8 garrisons with my team doing nothing, a squad leader STANDING NEXT TO SUPPLIES and not building a garrison, and get to the last 5 minutes. lose connection to the game

that team was useless. commander was doing nothing just pissing about at hq2 the entire game while the little blueberries attack and do no defending until we half lose a point then they go "oh no were losing point" BECAUSE THEY DID NO DEFENDING AND WONDER WHY THE POINT IS BEING LOST

[wind oar]

Sup chat

[pine ember]

What do you guys think of the Kursk map?

[red stump]

'relevant'

[sonic ibex]

Fr…

[raw sequoia]

How cool would it be if in milsim games like HLL when someone is killed their body stays there for the whole game? Just like when a tank is destroyed it stays there. I feel like it would be hella immersive and kinda show what a battlefield would really look like

[slate canopy]

I like Kursk! It is an open map, so definitely a tank strong map

[pine ember]

Same, I like that too! You Need Teamwork and map knowledge as well as tactics to succeed, but if done right it’s the best way to play the game how it was intended to

[slate canopy]

Max and I played like 2-3 weeks ago and tanked on Tursk. We would be near windmills (points were the other side of the map) and try to take out stuff from behind as recon tank, while calling out the big tanks for our heavy tank. Once we got a heavy through, it went gooood 😈

So good we had 2-3, if not more, AT guys coming for us 🫣

[gentle lintel]

https://tenor.com/view/unleash-hell-maximus-gladiator-release-hell-begin-the-torture-gif-5638437132139554001

[hearty plaza]

hello

[midnight nacelle]

Ooo, I can Tank on PC. 🤠

[robust sigil]

hello

[cosmic pilot]

When Rome let loose

[pallid tiger]

wh i cant see all server for i can play please help

[pallid tiger]

help

[slate canopy]

Do you have cross play on?

[pallid tiger]

idk

[slate canopy]

Go to Options -> Game play tab - it's the 6th down - CRoss play Enabled. should say yes

[pallid tiger]

yeah now it work wow brothe u help me rienstall the game 2 time

[pallid tiger]

thk u

[slate canopy]

Glad it worked 👍 Enjoy solider

[lofty scaffold]

lfg for tank

[lime marten]

@lost pulsar could we see The M2 Carbine for the Americans in the future feel like the M1 already doesn't get love just would be neat to play with!

I have over 540 in game hours and i feel like this would bring a lot more attention to the American carbine I feel like it will be well matched for close to mid range combat! thanks for hearing me out!!

@candid topaz

[slate canopy]

You can put that suggestion in #1098158460463480842 🙂

[lime marten]

thank you

[covert elbow]

Unfortunately it’s not really possible since the amount of processing power that it takes to have that is way to much for that engine to handle

[covert elbow]

Hahahahahaha!

No

The M2 carbine saw incredibly little combat and was only used in the tail end of the Pacific

[brisk cradle]

Also ive been thinking about this, what do you mean you don't play Hell let loose that much? you have 7,168 and 287 pages of messages here but dont play it that much?

[past vortex]

:D

22k messages

[past vortex]

its complicated
https://www.theline.gg/tankbible

note that the reload time got changed and is now the same

rest should still apply

[wintry thistle]

I like this server

[mint egret]

HLL also isn't a milsim game either 😉

[covert elbow]

That to

[covert elbow]

Same

[wind shore]

why i got cool down in suggestion, tried to post the suggestion and it wasn't posted..

it hasn't been created.

[void mason]

i think i got PTSD of this game

[lofty bough]

All fun and games until you feel arty screen shake in your aphasia… Don’t ask how that makes sense, it just Does

[high crane]

guys make a channel for screennshots from the game

so we can sshare betweeen us