#🪹the-sepulchre-arg

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wanton prairie
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he goes carcosa then?

chilly marten
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"Melting I want to forget"
then numbers responded "hold me"

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thats the main issue rn

frozen gulch
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maybe there is a reason that the words from Ballistic's decryption are backwards?

radiant sonnet
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||.||

midnight grail
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no

hollow vale
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shot the lost a little dm with something, i wonder if ill get a response.

midnight grail
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With what exactly?

hollow vale
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they want to be directed to carcosa, so why not do just that?

wanton prairie
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nice

chilly marten
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šŸ¤”

midnight grail
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Genius

wanton prairie
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are you watching here lost guy

hollow vale
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i reckon lost is taking a nap

chilly marten
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lol

wanton prairie
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wakey wakey

hollow vale
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will have to wait and see

chilly marten
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what to do with him @patent dagger

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lol

patent dagger
chilly marten
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melting

wanton prairie
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BingChilling

midnight grail
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An owl on the branch of a decayed tree hooted dismally and was answered by another in the distance. Looking upward, I saw through a sudden rift in the clouds Aldebaran and the Hyades! In all this there was a hint of night -- the lynx, the man with the torch, the owl. Yet I saw -- I saw even the stars in absence of the darkness. I saw, but was apparently not seen nor heard. Under what awful spell did I exist?

 I seated myself at the root of a great tree, seriously to consider what it were best to do. That I was mad I could no longer doubt, yet recognized a ground of doubt in the conviction. Of fever I had no trace. I had, withal, a sense of exhilaration and vigour altogether unknown to me -- a feeling of mental and physical exaltation. My senses seemed all alert; I could feel the air as a ponderous substance; I could hear the silence.
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Again, from An Inhabitant of Carcosa

chilly marten
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I should read that book

hollow vale
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inhabitant isnt my kind tho

hardy cloak
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@hollow vale btw about that 4/296 thing the text around it said: 000 ARE COMING. LETS GO. Then after that there is one more word that you can’t see

hardy cloak
hollow vale
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cuz 000 is police in some areas like here in aus so its probably just saying "police are here"

hardy cloak
midnight grail
hollow vale
hardy cloak
patent dagger
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yooooo

chilly marten
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wut

patent dagger
hollow vale
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holy god kiy early editions arent cheap

chilly marten
hardy cloak
# patent dagger

I saw that earlier but didn’t think anything of it as they ain’t a dev

chilly marten
hollow vale
wanton prairie
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it says 1895 it's almost 1 and half century old

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whos that

chilly marten
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there are 2 creatures too

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we need fullsize

patent dagger
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could it be a flower bud

hardy cloak
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What flower is that this time

wanton prairie
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did it joined server recently

chilly marten
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no look at the heads

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left one looks like a reptile thing

midnight grail
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it's not

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or it is

chilly marten
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I see it

hollow vale
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apparently its just for aesthetics, hayleys profile doesnt mean anything

chilly marten
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who knows maybe

ornate eagle
hollow vale
wanton prairie
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it seems pretty much souvenir now

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850$ for a book damn

patent dagger
chilly marten
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well their faces have def melted

wanton prairie
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both are facing toward us

tough cedar
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looks like a flower

chilly marten
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and we had this from another mod

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yeah looks like a flower thats about to blossom

radiant sonnet
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when was this posted

midnight grail
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The left one looks like a SWAT operator

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With the ballistic mask

chilly marten
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2 have the same image on their faces but the one with the flower is distorted

patent dagger
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today

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like fuckin uhh 20 mins ago

chilly marten
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anything from nda channel?

patent dagger
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we noticed one of the blossoming mfs has a scarf

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so does the guy in the middle here

tacit sequoia
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its def the same scarf

patent dagger
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who also happens to be in the MLO formation and only guy wearing a baseball cap there

hollow vale
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hayleys profile is just for aesthetics, it doesnt actually relate to carcosa here.

hardy cloak
hardy cloak
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@hollow vale I think I figured out the ace thing. Ace was one of the main publishers of the king in yellow so I think we were meant to see that at the start and somehow figure out about the king in yellow links. Still idk

chilly marten
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so we lost one to MLO?

fast kiln
hardy cloak
hollow vale
hardy cloak
chilly marten
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the one with the moustache isnt in the pic

hardy cloak
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Headset guy

fast kiln
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Context on video cause I don't know where that comes from

chilly marten
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yeah šŸ¤”

chilly marten
teal grotto
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who's that doofus in the middle

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he looks funny

tough cedar
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he is the ā€œleaderā€

hardy cloak
chilly marten
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maybe the one with moustache died? the others joined mlo?

hardy cloak
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@chilly marten if scarf guy and headset guy do stuff together like that one picture showed then maybe they both have died?

chilly marten
chilly marten
strong idol
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that is some werid ass shit with the flower bed

hardy cloak
patent dagger
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Theres voices in that video you gotta bump this shit up though

strong idol
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i know it sounds stupid but it looks like this

hardy cloak
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Same vibes

strong idol
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moodaf

silver plank
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Alright boys any notable updates yet? Just got home from school

chilly marten
strong idol
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slow it down?

silver plank
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Could try isolating the track, and slowing it down, but isolating tracks is a bitch and a half and doesn't always work

hardy cloak
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Those teeth are where the teeth are and if this acid stuff is involved then the face would be basically gone as seen there

chilly marten
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since its wav I wonder if I can seperate the channels

silver plank
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I doubt the devs would make a mistake like that unless they wanted us to do that...Given how deep all these rabbitholes go it's obvious that Void knows their shit, they've always been into ARGs with all their games

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Anything big yet cheese?

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What?

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ever

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Yeah I bet you thought you got my ass, but no, it was your ass that was got, you fell for the oldest trick in the book you fool

chilly marten
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both channels have that drum and music sound but hang on

hardy cloak
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@hollow vale did some digging on the ace thing and I thought as they published the kiy maybe the text is meant to say THE KING IN YELLOW IS COMING

hollow vale
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mmm

silver plank
hardy cloak
# hollow vale mmm

The text could even say M-L-O IS COMING as the 0-0-0 thing would match

chilly marten
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nope both have noise

silver plank
hollow vale
chilly marten
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yeah they don f around with this

silver plank
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we'd be had pressed to find anything we're not supposed to, even harder than finding the stuff we ARE supposed to find

chilly marten
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but both channels have noise so not really possible afaik

silver plank
chilly marten
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lmaooo

hollow vale
chilly marten
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the drum and the flute covers the whole chatter

silver plank
chilly marten
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on both channels

hollow vale
chilly marten
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It could be easier to convince Gwyn to give us isolated tracks than to do that ourselves with only a pc lol

silver plank
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holy fucking shittlesticks I forgot that I know an audio engineer

hollow vale
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i have fl installed

hollow vale
chilly marten
silver plank
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bet, idk if he'll help because he's full time working on a game called Ad Mortem

chilly marten
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I dont think we would get much info from that track anyway bc if there was something really worth it void would give us a way to either separate the tracks or decipher it in some other way

patent dagger
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anyone got some numbers to decypher

chilly marten
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so yeah that

silver plank
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Probably not any info but worth a try seeing as all leads are dead atm

strong idol
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Well we deciphered the guy with numbers

chilly marten
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24843 was it?

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probably non related tho

patent dagger
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the numbers guy's name just means home

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aka the one with "The Lost" role

chilly marten
silver plank
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"We hail you, king of rust" or whatever, might be connected

chilly marten
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then we deciphered a tattoo from a guy in port level that led us to Hensley West Virginia lmao and thats basically it

silver plank
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I live in tennessee, time for a road trip

chilly marten
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loll

hardy cloak
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@hollow vale maybe that cinematic was of the M.L.O as both photos seem to have some effect which could be cult related. Would make sense that it says mlo is coming

chilly marten
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turns out its a binary technique related to that whole Carcosa narrative and cosmic horror stuff

hardy cloak
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Seems like that’s all linked then

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But why would MLO be raiding some person place

chilly marten
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this

chilly marten
patent dagger
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dont tell me we need to turn all the negative images to 0 and the normal ones as 1s

hardy cloak
chilly marten
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thats swat? @hardy cloak

chilly marten
hardy cloak
# chilly marten thats swat? <@!720769500261384262>

That’s my point. That swat guy right before he shoots a guy gets that screen thing and that ace thing might of actually said MLO IS COMING which might make that guy some spy or something within the swat

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Also the flash bang he throws has red stripe which is basically on a lot of thing in ron but it must mean something. Even in the discord banner we got red lines

fast kiln
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YOOOOO A FUCKING PLANT FROM A CARCOSA CULT

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Sheeeesh

chilly marten
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wut

chilly marten
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apperantly the devs love Gaspar Noe

hardy cloak
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In that case discard that part of my theory but the fact that swat guy may be MLO could still be on the tables

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Actually very similar eyes and skin

midnight grail
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racist

eager atlas
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Hard to tell, I see the resemblance, mainly the clothing. It's hard to tell since we can't see the color of their vest

hardy cloak
# midnight grail racist

Well we don’t actually know what race the leader is as we ha e to chance contrast to see face which changes his skin tone

silver plank
chilly marten
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we're just chatting at this point not much to focus lol my minds gone

eager atlas
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^ I don't know what I missed while I slept n went to class. So at this point I'm with the flow

ornate eagle
hardy cloak
chilly marten
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what did he say?

hardy cloak
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Yeah we just making theories mate that’s the whole fun of this

eager atlas
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Lost said basically that it burns, they can't forget, hold me, stuff like that.

Unless there's new stuff

chilly marten
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what did he say @radiant sonnet ?

midnight grail
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he said there are no dead ends. cull the tumor. flourish.

eager atlas
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That too

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Hmmm

hardy cloak
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Someone paste the whole thing here again

midnight grail
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btw gameplay trailer

hardy cloak
eager atlas
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Well I my brain hasn't turned much still. The only fire stuff I know of is the hotel map, car burning. And also port being the site of a body disposal operation. But there's apparently no in-game connections

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As in, like, no secrets to be found in-game

ripe flume
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Wait

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They were SO insistent that there was nothing in game, maybe because the bodies in the tubs were unrelated, maybe it has nothing to do with any of that

eager atlas
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Maybe if we buy Guinevere another coffee they'll give us a hint CH_BigBrain

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I think the fire connection is pretty clear. But I'm not sure if it's exactly a hint to something metaphorical as well.

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Me going back into the chat history to see if maybe a past message had a connection:

midnight grail
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EMAN MY MAN

hardy cloak
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We need the whole thing of what the lost said pinned

chilly marten
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those extra 0's tho..

eager atlas
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Hmm, I did type fire into the past messages. I'm not sure if messages from 2018 are exactly, relevant, right now

midnight grail
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The username string spells out HOME when you use an A1Z26 substitution table. If this username is using the Gwynnstitution table, all we have thus far is the letter R. These numbers do not match either of the previous theories tested with Gwynn’s status that produced the word CARCOSA.
The account then sent the following messages:
i want to forget why can’t i forget
b̷̈́͗uĢ“ĢŽĢrĢøĢĶ†nĢµĢŽĢŠ
Running the text through a Zalgo converter, it displays the word ā€œburnā€.
Gwynn then proceeded to gaslight us by telling us she took the day off and has no knowledge of the new channel.
The Lost: audio file 1
At 2:58 (GMT) on 11/01/2022, The Lost account posted an audio file with the following filename:
01100001_00100000_01100011_01101100_01110101_01100101_2
Ignoring the _2 at the end (which is assumed to be a typo), we ran it through a binary to text converter which produced the following text:
a clue
The file itself is a series of very fast beeps. Processing the file in a spectrogram produced a link. This link led us to the second audio file.
The Lost: audio file 2
At 3:07 (GMT) on 11/01/2022, The Lost account posted another audio file with the caption:
there are no dead ends. cull the tumor. flourish.
The filename is the same as the previous and spells:
a clue
Listening to the audio file, a female voice reads the following sequence of numbers:
20 5 7 18 15 6 0 15 20 0 20 14 1 23 0 9 0 7 14 9 20 12 5 13
User Ballistic#4525 used an A1Z26 decoder to get the following characters:
TEGROF0OT0TNAW0I0GNITLEM
Reversing this output gives the following phrase:
MELTING I WANT TO FORGET
When Ballistic sent this text in the Discord channel, The Lost responded:
hold me

eager atlas
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What if we're lookin at this wrong, what if Home is a literal home that was burned down, probably with innocent people inside. Something people involved would want people to forget

silver plank
hardy cloak
silver plank
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gaslighting is such an overused term and has lost all meaning

chilly marten
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TEGROF 0 OT 0 TNAW 0 I 0 GNITLEM

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did she use the extra'0 as space?

eager atlas
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no clue

chilly marten
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šŸ¤”

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why is it backwards too tho

silver plank
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MELTING0I0WANT0TO0FORGET

hardy cloak
chilly marten
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dont think so

hardy cloak
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We got told to look closer on the text to see what we will be led to so let’s try find some location or something else

eager atlas
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A bit of a stretch I guess, but that distorted picture that when fixed shows a horse door and stuff kinda gives off melted vibes. Maybe home was killed there and that location really was burnt down?

silver plank
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Has anyone looked at Guinevere's new banner

hardy cloak
hollow vale
silver plank
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Zacks and Ropolios too

silver plank
hardy cloak
eager atlas
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I've looked at Guine's, seems to be a port with them facing some gas/chemical trucks inside

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Thankfully I know a place where you can view the full image in pfps/banners, neato

silver plank
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This is after I color corrected the image to see details easily

chilly marten
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gwyn said we should look at what the Lost said and what that may lead us to

hardy cloak
chilly marten
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that led me to fokin insanity and brain tumor

eager atlas
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That's the thing though, where do we really go from here? They've said there aren't any in-game hints/connections, I'll take them at their word for now. All we can really do is speculate and hope it triggers a response again

chilly marten
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yeah apart from some images of people's faces melting cant really go far

eager atlas
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I've tried taking Losts responses and googling them to see if it maybe leads to a reference or something, no luck so far

midnight grail
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Maybe try calling Lost?

chilly marten
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well what he said led us to Void lol

hardy cloak
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I CALLED THE LOST AT 3AM (GONE WRONG)

eager atlas
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I feel like if they were gonna do a message through voice, it'd be in a public channel

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Someone ping em again, I don't rememeber the numbers in their name

hollow vale
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@ancient vessel

midnight grail
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what is this room

hollow vale
hardy cloak
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Btw as the role is The lost wouldn’t that mean there is multiple of them? I wouldn’t say I’m the lost I would say we are the lost

midnight grail
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I'm not saying it related to ARG just asking

ornate eagle
chilly marten
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c'mon now

eager atlas
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Next updateee? Let me double check the Jan announcement

chilly marten
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so nothing until next update? and basically we shouldnt look for bigger things?

eager atlas
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Probably right now the best thing is to speculate and when the update does come in throw em at it and see what sticks

hardy cloak
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Well we gonna be at a standstill for a bit

chilly marten
eager atlas
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Does the gamemode change anything besides AI and stuff on maps? Like, new threats and layouts? No?

chilly marten
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Imma go write an essay out of habit

eager atlas
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Makes me wonder if it has to do with:

  • Raid on 213 Park Homes, 'Twisted Nerve'
hardy cloak
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I’m guessing the cinematics are the ā€œbigger stuffā€

eager atlas
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Probably

hardy cloak
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They don’t make too much sense rn

chilly marten
eager atlas
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I think also we should be mentally preparing ourselves, because if Lost has to do anything with the next cinematic, I can't imagine it's going to be a very "happy dory" kind of cinematic. They never are though

hardy cloak
midnight grail
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I'll try to find something in KiY

hollow vale
hardy cloak
hollow vale
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nothing wrong with it being long

hardy cloak
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@chilly marten btw that guy with the terrible haircut in that cinematic might be called joe. Love whoever this character is

chilly marten
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lolll

eager atlas
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So probably, Lost has to do something with a specific story/background to either a person or a place. I can't imagine where it goes from here though

chilly marten
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what lost has said should lead us to somewhere according to gwyn

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so he said "melting I want to forget"

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and he has numbers on his profile meaning "home"

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idfk

hardy cloak
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Gwyn in one message says what themes are the lost leading us to

eager atlas
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Pain, suffering, trauma

chilly marten
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thats a fking homework

hardy cloak
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Or this fun room

eager atlas
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Home/Lost certainly comes off to me as someone who was harmed, brutally, using fire/corrosive material. Probably in a highly traumautic event that they wish they could forget

chilly marten
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why does he have "home" on his pf tho

random gate
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embed fail

bold harness
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going insane maybe

chilly marten
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maybe lost his house in a fire?

hardy cloak
chilly marten
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along with family?

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Lost either leads us to despair or hope

hardy cloak
eager atlas
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Maybe... It's a bit dark, but this game is known for it:

As I previously thought, combine their name + their tag and get: The Lost home.

They talk about burning a lot, trying to forget, the pain, but also specifically "hold me". Maybe it was a younger person who's family was caught in a fire, probably crime related, and left them the only survivor after a "miracle"

chilly marten
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its impossible to speculate the specific events but "why I cant forget" line is basically trauma

eager atlas
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The one thing we haven't brought up much actually, which I feel like is the direction they want to go, is the culling the tumor part, flourishing

hardy cloak
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Maybe he just got stung by a bee or something

chilly marten
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tumor may represent the past obligations he's still holding on to

hardy cloak
eager atlas
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"There are no dead ends. Cull the tumor. Flourish"

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It stands out as one of the few things that doesn't add up to the character of Home that we're imaging, a traumatized person with a past of fire or something similar

chilly marten
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Its never too late/not impossible, cut the ties, be free? that how it sounds to me

silver plank
eager atlas
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It's specifically how brutal the line is. It could've been "cut the tumor", "Remove the tumor", but it's specifically cull, a very heavy word

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That's what I was thinking yeah. What if instead of Home being the one saying that, it was the person, probably someone in MLO, saying it to them. It'd basically be any criminal groups interest to finish where they left off to avoid loose ends

silver plank
chilly marten
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"home" could be used as a metaphor too, like not literal home but belongingness

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him saying "hold me" could be to someone he cares or sees as home?

silver plank
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Part of my theory is they buy trafficked humans and raise them into becoming MLO and it's seen as "cut the ties to the past" like the cult can heal their trauma

bold harness
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Maybe "the lost" are a group of people (Police /military) who have been taumatized , and the cult promise them to heal their wounds and now sees this cult as a new Home.

silver plank
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That or they're directly trafficking humans, I totally think the MLO is working a cult/possibly the cult on the farm

eager atlas
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What if Home was a person who knew too much, "couldn't forget" what they saw, and as a result MLO culled the "tumor", left "no dead end", and flourished. Burning/killing them in their own home

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Then again my idea forgets the line about "hold me". I feel like there's a way we can incorporate every line into a smaller story while remaining consistent with what we know

chilly marten
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we should specify a theme šŸ¤”

eager atlas
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Then again, Gwynne specificed what "themes". Hmm

silver plank
chilly marten
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for some reason I feel like @patent dagger his pfp got something to do with this melting stuff

silver plank
chilly marten
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and the fact that he is wearing swat armor leads me to believe he's seen some shit and traumatized?

chilly marten
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I feel like some ptsd shit is going on and this cult offers them their help? to basically brainwash?

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bc in the trailers an officer constantly remembers traumatic events leading up to "why cant I forget?"

eager atlas
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Y'know one thing that makes this hard is that we don't exactly know how MLO operates, does it? We know they're essentially the bad guys, but is it possible that they're also the ant-hero type? Vigilantes who take things to extreme levels to see the change they want

chilly marten
eager atlas
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Hmmm, I dunno, but I'm outta time for now. I'll be back later, best of luck ASsalute

silver plank
chilly marten
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lost feels like ex law enf.

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seen some tough things, maybe something melting? someone? torture?

silver plank
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Because just using 1 of those 2 sources by themselves isn't sustainable enough: You can't raise and train trafficked children fast enough, and you can't brainwash enough law enforcement

chilly marten
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so he's left broken unable to function unable to forget?

silver plank
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@chilly marten

chilly marten
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yeah I know izotope but dont have that

silver plank
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Looks like it's about that time

chilly marten
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should get it soon lol

smoky island
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Here's my thoughts regarding all of The Lost's clues so far. Look at the HOME, this would be our starting point. Trauma and disaster occurs, subject attempts to run away, to forget their past, to forget the memories that haunt them most. They seek asylum, protection, warmth. They wish the haunting would just burn away. But the trauma keeps coming back, no matter what. The subject becomes desperate, they look for an outlet in various places, eventually their desperation leads them to an addiction. Most likely drug-related. "There are no dead-ends" they say, "Cull the tumor" they say, "Fluorish." they say. Sounds a lot like a drug addiction to me. Eventually their desperation becomes even worse, they meet (presumably) the MLO. "Join us and blossom" they say, tying into the leitmotif of fluorishing.

radiant sonnet
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Some mod should pin the first message in this channel

gleaming fractal
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has anything massive been discovered since yesterday?

edgy cradle
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they are florists

hollow vale
smoky island
edgy cradle
patent dagger
teal grotto
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lmao

patent dagger
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Bertie ngl your pfp is kinda disturbing, wachu sniffin over there bud?

smoky island
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yo is that a King Crimson pfp?

teal grotto
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i'm gettin a good whiff of deez

smoky island
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good taste man, good taste

chilly marten
teal grotto
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heck yea man

patent dagger
patent dagger
gleaming fractal
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oooo, they return

strong idol
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should we @

gleaming fractal
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ima just wait for his wisdom to be given to us

dusty spoke
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it;s happening again

ancient vessel
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 23 5 0 19 9 14 7 0 6 15 18 0 20 8 5 13 
 23 5 0 2 12 5 5 4 0 6 15 18 0 20 8 5 13 
 23 5 0 13 15 21 18 14 0 20 8 5 13 
 5 1 3 8 0 6 12 1 13 5 
 6 1 4 9 14 7 0 1 23 1 25 
 15 21 18 0 22 15 23 
 13 5 12 20 9 14 7 0 4 18 9 16 16 9 14 7 0 4 25 9 14 7 
 15 21 18 0 12 9 6 5 
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 20 15 0 18 5 20 21 18 14```

6 0 18 2 24 23 20 25 2
teal pilot
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BURH

quick cave
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😮

gleaming fractal
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:0

teal pilot
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searching for home we sing for them we bleed for them we mourn them each flame fading away our vow melting dripping dying our life and yours to return

tacit sequoia
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oh shit

tough cedar
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@chilly marten

tough cedar
tacit sequoia
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what is the code at the end?

teal pilot
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yeah numbers to letters

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direct

tacit sequoia
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last one is

teal pilot
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bottom numbers are different

tacit sequoia
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MAKE WHOLE

teal pilot
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how did you get it

tacit sequoia
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Using Gwen table

tough cedar
gleaming fractal
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yea thats the website I use for most things

radiant sonnet
tough cedar
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oh yeah for the last numbers it doesnt work**

radiant sonnet
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gwen is a0z25

tough cedar
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201521215

tacit sequoia
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this is her table

tough cedar
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new bio for that acc

tacit sequoia
gleaming fractal
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for the gwyn table I just refer to the google doc

radiant sonnet
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heres gwyn table

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APETIXMBQFUJYNCRGVKZODSHWL if you want to copy it

tough cedar
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201521215 what do the numbers mean 😭

tacit sequoia
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tryna get it

gleaming fractal
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yea im trying to figure it out too

tacit sequoia
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ORDER

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I figured it out

gleaming fractal
#

what did it end up being, gwyn table?

tacit sequoia
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Yes

lament adder
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thats with the number being split into 20, 15, 21, 2, 15 right?

tacit sequoia
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Yup it's the combination that made most sense

lament adder
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i guess so

patent dagger
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drip too hard dont stand too close you gon fuck around and drown off this wave

strong idol
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i can decode it give me a sec

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searchingforhomewesingforthemwebleedforthemwemournthemeachflamefadingawayourvowmeltingdrippingdyingourlifeandyourstoreturn

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searching for home we sing for them we bleed for them we mourn the meach flame fading away our vow melting dripping dying our life and your store turn

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there

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what do you guys think it means

true portal
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candle

tough cedar
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SEARCHING FOR HOME WE SING FOR THEM WE BLEED FOR THEM WE MOURN THEM EACH FLAME FADING AWAY OUR VOW MELTING DRIPPING DYING OUR LIFE AND YOURS TO RETURN

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are the exact words, probably something from a funeral?

midnight grail
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Sounds like prep for next update

lament adder
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sus

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it just lost its status as well

gleaming fractal
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thats a different account entirely lol

ornate eagle
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eat ass

lament adder
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oh yeah lmao

midnight grail
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NOW THERES 2 OF THEM

sage helm
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Not the real one lmao.

true portal
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die

strong idol
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for fucks sake

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i cant get that one unless

gleaming fractal
#

people do be trying to troll tho

midnight grail
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He tried tho

lament adder
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f

tacit sequoia
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lmao

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nice fake profile kid

midnight grail
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Call Lost lol

strong idol
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umm that guy is actualy the guy

tacit sequoia
#

it ain't

gleaming fractal
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nah it wasnt

strong idol
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he has givin us new clues

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we need a new decoder that isnt number to letter

gleaming fractal
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it was a fake account trying to trick people so dont even need to bother decoding it

strong idol
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no its not

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why would it have a custom role

lament adder
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the second one didnt

strong idol
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wait he deleted the last one

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Guys

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dam,n

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you right

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ove been played

maiden bobcat
#

There might be a code in the poem structure.

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I'll snag it and see if it spells out anything.

strong idol
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its a video of a man rapping about poop and a video of markiplyer

maiden bobcat
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I mean the thing 8 15 posted

patent dagger
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@chilly marten hows the audio thing?

tacit sequoia
#

no you guys are using the fake one

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this is mad funny

strong idol
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no were using the real one this time

gleaming fractal
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lmao

strong idol
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the one with the border

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the one i translated into actual words

hollow vale
gleaming fractal
#

its been solved and revealed more of the poem type stuff

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its already on the google doc I believe

hollow vale
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Yeah but have we got anything from that poem

gleaming fractal
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dont think so yet

hollow vale
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Alright

patent dagger
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not yet

strong idol
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there was referance to home tho

gleaming fractal
#

the "make whole" thing I believe is probably a hint as to what we need to do with it all

eager atlas
#

Interesting, lemme grammar screw it real quick in a way that makes sense

radiant sonnet
eager atlas
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Searching for home: We sing for them; We bleed for them; We mourn them. Each flame fading away, our vow melting, dripping, dying our life[lives(?)] and yours to return.

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Somehow my 10th grade English teacher finds a way to haunt me years later. That's the true cult story here

crimson pelican
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may not be a poem

eager atlas
#

I suspect if it is a poem, it's likely not English. I dunno why

strong idol
#

@ me if he posts numbers again

patent dagger
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šŸ‘ļø

eager atlas
#

1, 2, 3. A, b, c

strong idol
#

wut

tacit sequoia
#

yes

radiant sonnet
#

was anything posted on nda

eager atlas
#

I guess to get some conversation going. The statement is kinda freaky. I tried to break it down into sentences based on grammar structure and stuff. But if we take it literally, someone(s) is either literally searching for Home/Lost, or metaphorically mourning them. It kind of reads like a statement someone would say where they miss a loved one and would do anything to get them back

blissful moth
#

I found out what is carcosa

ornate eagle
rough summit
eager atlas
#

Does P1 and P2 refer to the twitter images?

ornate eagle
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person 1, person 2

eager atlas
#

I mean, I'm not sure who we're referring to exactly. I would imagine not Home

ornate eagle
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we don't know, but it doesn't matter, one is a recruiter, one is being recruited

eager atlas
#

I know I know I read it, I'm just confused who we're talkin about and how we got there. Good job though if the order is just a bit off

radiant sonnet
#

we dont know yet

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we'll find out in update i think

eager atlas
#

Fair enough

radiant sonnet
crimson pelican
#

damn edging us with an update

eager atlas
#

Yeahh I'll leave the theorizing to the NDA server, I have no clue where we are, how we get there, or who is involved

crimson pelican
#

ehh yall will figure it out eventually

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im not touching it
it seems far too complex for something that's seemingly just

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a story about trauma, a cult that abducts people and morality in religious beliefs

eager atlas
#

Fair enough yeah, I find it fun, it's probably the one few time I use my brain each day. It's fun to have a mystery to try to solve

sonic quartz
#

okay i just looked into the whole carcosa thing, is there like a recent video or wiki link summarizing what we know so far? because im a little lost

radiant sonnet
eager atlas
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^

crimson pelican
#

yeah it's really cool to see it be a puzzle

and for the developers and community workers to put effort to make their lore present but interesting to discover

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but it seems so obvious and the thing that is interesting is the details in accordance with what's going on

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how its bad, not that it is

sonic quartz
crimson pelican
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should be pinned

radiant sonnet
#

or yeah its pinned

crimson pelican
#

oh wait duh

ornate eagle
#

it's also included in the doc, I've linked the 2

hollow vale
gleaming fractal
#

loaf of cats

crimson pelican
#

.

eager atlas
#

I guess the next thing is to talk about how different the order can be, Loaf has essentially given out the key, we just need to know what order to use it in

crimson pelican
#

i'd wait until the update to continue so the solution is more clear

eager atlas
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"I don't need sleep, I need answers!"

crimson pelican
#

i swear, there's a jojo reference for this

eager atlas
#

"I refuse"?

crimson pelican
#

mind blank for that

eager atlas
#

I surprisingly don't have a sticker or emote for that, and I don't think a gif is gonna work here

crimson pelican
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crying

maiden bobcat
#

Okay. What have I missed?

eager atlas
#

The doc is fully updated, but Home spoke more, and it's confusing. Gwynne also confirmed some more stuff that Loaf had theorized, you can find the images above

ornate eagle
#

haven't fully updated the doc but I will do so tomorrow, it's just missing what I've figured out tonight

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mainly because I want to make sure it's at least like 50% right before updating

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I will update the doc around 3pm my time

gleaming fractal
#

Has the order been figured out at all? Didn’t see if it’s been done or atleast theorised to be done

eager atlas
#

I don't think we've talked much about it, channel is a bit quiet, NDA seems to be doin all the work for us

gleaming fractal
#

Lmao gotta get into the NDA server

ornate eagle
maiden bobcat
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:( I'm saving for a new car and fishing trip I can't afford 80 dollars right now.

gleaming fractal
#

Alrighty, ima look if I can try to solve it myself later today as well

ornate eagle
#

I will update the document as often as I can and post here with anything we discover in the NDA discord as it happens @maiden bobcat

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doing my best to make sure you guys are as informed as we are about stuff

eager atlas
#

I suspect it's probably:

  • P1 gets invited by P2
  • P1 declines citing their actions
  • P1 does something bad, gets invited again and in reasoning is called a hypocrite by P2.
  • P1 is resistant, but eventually submits
maiden bobcat
#

I will say it again, thank you for your service @ornate eagle .

ornate eagle
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for reference

eager atlas
#

Yeah, they said it was close, missing tiny details probably, but in the wrong order. I just paraphrased the hell out of what you said originally in a slightly different order

ornate eagle
#

anyway gamers, I sleep, night all

eager atlas
#

Sleep well hero

balmy osprey
#

I tried rearranging it, and to me it could be a couple different orders. I'm not seeing how it's supposed to magically click

radiant sonnet
#

feel free to share

balmy osprey
#

So here are the puzzle pieces

radiant sonnet
#

yeah but those arent in order

balmy osprey
#

I know, that's the order they were given, I'm trying to rearrange them until something seemingly clicks

eager atlas
#

i'd imagine we sing, we bleed, and we mourn are already in order

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Hmm, maybe also Home is a bad person in this context? "Searching for our life for home to return?"

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Or searching for our home for life to return

balmy osprey
#

Well, the numbers of the lost's name came out to home

gleaming fractal
#

Would make sense as well in the sense of a cult or group as he found ā€œhomeā€ in the reassurance of someone else

eager atlas
#

So if P1 is left side person, then maybe P1 is Home. If P1 broke their "vowels", they could've been punished by being dumped into acid or burned to death. Hence all the burning stuff they mention. They could've also lost faith in the group, hence the "cull the tumor" part.

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I'm not sure, a lot of pieces to put together for sure. It's sadly not as easy as rectangle goes in square

radiant sonnet
#

but im not sure if its worth pursuing yet

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wtf is going on?

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im so confused wtf is carcosa

eager atlas
#

It's an ARG for the game. It's complicated, but if you scroll up above there's a link to a document explaining most of it

radiant sonnet
#

whats ARG?

eager atlas
#

Alternate reality game, it's essentially a mystery that the devs give us hints to solve and theorize on

radiant sonnet
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ohhh ok

gleaming fractal
#

There’s some good videos on ARGs online to learn about them, they are real fun

eager atlas
#

I see it a bit more yeah, they do somewhat look like left guy. I'm not sure what the metaphor would be here though and who the middle head would represent

radiant sonnet
#

im not sure either, but as my theory goes crocodile looking guy is the leader of the cult since hes on top

gleaming fractal
#

Yea it’s a hard one to find out the meaning behind but the spider is most certainly important symbolism for the cult

eager atlas
#

Yeah, I just realized that the legs are stretched people though... spooky

gleaming fractal
#

Oh they are too

eager atlas
#

Didn't look too hard at the legs

gleaming fractal
#

That’s really damn interesting

radiant sonnet
#

thats what was hinted all of this is speculation

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about spider and cult

eager atlas
#

Yeah let's switch back to the P1 P2 thing, we can go over Spiderman later on

radiant sonnet
#

the middle head looks more like a spider

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it looks like a bugs

gleaming fractal
#

With the words it’s hard to tell what’ll switch once we find it out or what we should be ordering them to create

eager atlas
#

Can you resend the two prompts again?

radiant sonnet
#

thats my off topic theory

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have yall looked up the actual place that carcosa is symbolising? ore at least represents

gleaming fractal
#

Yea it was all investigated in the previous ARG

radiant sonnet
#

fuck

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i thought i was onto sum

gleaming fractal
#

I mean no harm in going over old things I suppose if you find something

radiant sonnet
#

im so lost

eager atlas
#

Don't worry, we all are, you'll catch up through time. I only got into it yesterday 1-2 days ago

eager atlas
radiant sonnet
#

so what should i be looking at to understand this better?

gleaming fractal
#

Yea look at the google doc, extremely handy

final whale
#

Wait what’s this channel

radiant sonnet
#

its a mind fuck

final whale
#

What did I miss

eager atlas
#

Channel for discussing the games ARG, a mystery the devs are throwing at us

radiant sonnet
final whale
radiant sonnet
#

SEARCHING FOR HOME,

WE SING FOR THEM,

WE BLEED FOR THEM,

WE MOURN THEM,

EACH FLAME,

FADING AWAY,

OUR VOW,

MELTING, DRIPPING, DYING,

OUR LIFE,

AND YOURS,

TO RETURN

eager atlas
#

True. For the shorter screenshot, what if the searching part goes before the vow part?

final whale
eager atlas
#

"Searching for home, to return, our life. Our vow, and yours, fading away, melting, dripping, dying"

radiant sonnet
#

that makes more sense

final whale
#

These are the guys on the farm map right

radiant sonnet
#

i wonder what loaf came up with

radiant sonnet
final whale
#

Oh I thought they were militia looking dudes in the trailer

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The melting dripping stuff makes me think of candles along with the flame reference

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Surely this somehow connects to the candle room in the HQ and in the trailers, I’m thinking former cops that have gone nuts

eager atlas
#

Hmm, I wonder

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Lemme try and phrase it my way to try to make sense, I was half way but then hit a roadblock

gleaming fractal
#

All the candles in the game had my mind thinking of what they are there for as well

final whale
#

There’s loads of candles on the farm map

eager atlas
#

"Searching for home, our life, to return, we sing for them, we bleed for them, we mourn them, each flame, fading away, melting, dripping, dying, our vow, and yours"

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This is what I got until I hit a bad block at the end

final whale
#

The pinned messages suggest human trafficking

eager atlas
#

Yeah, we're focusing on one specific message though from a "actor" in the Discord that we decoded. We don't have the right order though it seems

final whale
#

ā€œCarcosaā€ is also the place that dude was talking about in true detective and he snatched kids so carcosa must be a trafficking thing

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Sounds like a dumb connection but based on the human trafficking images it rings a bell

eager atlas
#

Maybe "Searching for home, each flame, fading away, melting, dripping, dying, we sing for them, we bleed for them, we mourn them, our vow, our life, and yours, to return"?

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Hard to fit the return part in, since we're not exactly sure what is meant to be returned, metaphorically

final whale
#

Flame, melting, dripping=candle

Our vow=cops or some cult thing?

Searching for home=they feel displaced

gleaming fractal
#

I’m guessing it’ll make atleast somewhat sense in the correct sentence

final whale
#

Sorry I’m probably not helping lol

eager atlas
#

It's all good, it's somethin you gotta read up on in the doc and experience to understand.

I'm not sure if it will make sense, that's the issue, especially since there's no periods anywhere to help suggest a sentence stop

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Maybe the next update part is the second half of what we have? Maybe context?

gleaming fractal
#

Yea it’s hard to tell if the correct answer will click now or if it’ll only click given the content we will get in the update

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I’m assuming it’s atleast somewhat possible to tell what the right order is currently

eager atlas
#

At least the melt drip die part is together, so we can at least assume it has to go together in a chain

radiant sonnet
eager atlas
#

<@&925148041126760529>

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Was that before/after Lost spoke though? I thought that was yesterday

gleaming fractal
#

I guess we just gotta keep searching and trying out things till we get whatever that piece of information is

eager atlas
#

maybeee.. I'm looking at this wrong

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I'm looking at the "We" parts as going together since it's how repetition works, but maybe they're not referring to the same things

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Maybe it's like: "Each flame, searching for home, we sing for them, our vow, we bleed for them, our life, and yours, we mourn for them, fading away, to return"

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The more I look and try to put it together, the more this sounds like a slogan/mission statement MLO would have

desert ether
#

Why it's always clues in your timezone ;(

balmy osprey
#

Hey that's pretty good

chilly marten
#

@patent dagger the hell happened to your pfp and name

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so this whole thing is basically was a recruitment situation? home metaphor, "hold me" line, tumor being the past burden and such? Glad we werent that far off

patent dagger
chilly marten
#

I dunno if you want, also tf has happened gwyn gave new clues?

desert ether
#

The Lost account gave one

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When I was sleeping so I lost all of it :(

chilly marten
#

Lol same

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Whats the latest solid lead that we can build upon?

desert ether
#

Gwyn wrote that @patent dagger was very close

chilly marten
#

What did he find? Wish mods would pin those

desert ether
radiant sonnet
#

p much all of it is there

chilly marten
#

Yea figured

midnight grail
#

I tried
OUR LIFE AND YOURS WE SING FOR THEM, WE BLEED THEM, WE MOURN THEM, EACH FLAME OUR VOW FADING AWAY MELTING, DRIPPING DYING SEARCHING FOR HOME TO RETURN

chilly marten
tall tundra
#

I’m not sure if it’s related but you guys know if that spooky room in the hotel be related to this?

hollow vale
#

spooky hotel room?

crimson pelican
#

flesh light room

radiant sonnet
#

and im p sure pictures on walls are devs

stuck gyro
#

yeah that’s the stalker room, don’t think it’s anything other than an easter egg

chilly marten
#

yea looks like it

chilly marten
#

we wont be getting any clues until the next update right?

desert ether
#

I guess so tho idk

wanton prairie
#

probably

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gwynn said there is connection we haven't made and iirc it hasn't connected yet

hardy cloak
#

I think that’s just because we were struggling though

desert ether
#

At this point I'm not sure what to think, my brain is too smooth for this things

ornate eagle
#

will update doc with what i have later, i need to get this work done for now

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HEADS UP: GOOGLE DOC IS GONNA BE A FUCKING MESS FOR A WHILE TODAY BECAUSE I'M GONNA RESTRUCTURE IT. PLEASE DO NOT PISS YOUR PANTS AND CRY ABOUT IT.

radiant sonnet
#

I’m going to piss my pants

chilly marten
#

I might cry about it

desert ether
#

I might do both actually

eager atlas
#

Anyway what I miss

maiden bobcat
ornate eagle
#

aight updated

edgy cradle
#

aight

eager atlas
#

Link it gun_cat

ornate eagle
#

same doc just check pins

desert ether
#

is it pinned?

ornate eagle
#

<@&925148041126760529> can we pin the doc here? it's not been done yet

ornate eagle
#

merci mamamamamboboboboo

edgy cradle
#

i think you are

heady gull
#

skysaac is back

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carcosa really does work huh

chilly marten
#

lol

wanton prairie
#

I just thought about latest cipher

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what if SEARCHING FOR HOME / TO RETURN is one sentence

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and OUR VOW / OUR LIFE / AND YOURS are order

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resulting in
Unwanted, buried, forgotten. / Searching for home / to return, / we sing for them, / we bleed for them, / we mourn for them. / Each flame / fading away, / our vow, / our life / and yours / melting, dripping, dying

smoky island
#

Interesting thought. In this context the subjects are essentially calling out for home, waiting/hoping for it to come to them

chilly marten
#

šŸ¤”

patent dagger
#

all the clues have to be arranged together into some sort of dialogue

chilly marten
chilly marten
chilly marten
#

Imagine they dont release the update until we solve this lol

chilly marten
#

Lmao

patent dagger
#

I keep getting distracted damn

chilly marten
# patent dagger

Well thats not excatly aranging the dialogue but we need to understand the meaning of it

patent dagger
#

Ive been trying to arrange shit but look what Ive done

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thats what Ive been working on instead of the ARG

eager atlas
#

Do they mean all of the dialogue we have gotten? Or just that one message about fading and stuff

eager atlas
eager atlas
#

Too much dialogue for me to even begin to try to contribute to this convo

chilly marten
#

I have this theory copied from other channel : This looks like someone who once was a military/cop. Hes taken vows to protect the people, he bled for them, mourned for them and he was traumatized, then maybe forgotten by the people/government? Their will to live/ flame is fading? Now they seek relief? Vengeance maybe? Second person tries to convince the first person to join the cult. Guessing its the cult with all the flower motiffs, he wants him to born out of rust, stand up again and fight and blossom? Under the union flag and for the principles that they believe in? A new home for those who are lost? Whole trauma thing would also explain the demon figures in some images symbolizing the inner demons and the things he want to forget. Idk its either that or im completely off.

#

That whole ARG took me back to poem analyzing days

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True

patent dagger
eager atlas
#

Does the ARG follow the same plot of US collapses into chaos thing? Or no?

chilly marten
#

Idk

eager atlas
# chilly marten I have this theory copied from other channel : This looks like someone who once...

Hmm, editing what you put a bit.

P1 was once a copy, probably, because SWAT game. He joined with a vow to help the innocent, he bled for them, he mourned for them, his allies died for them, unable to forget what happened. Eventually he was fired or something happened that left him abandoned. P2 comes to recruit them to MLO, telling them to forget their past vows, "Cull the tumor", and flourish with a new focus

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Stopped there since I pretty much agree with the rest

chilly marten
#

Cull the tumor line is interesting. I dont think one would use ā€œtumorā€ to describe a trauma, but rather a past attachment that was once a positive that became negative over time.

patent dagger
#

yeah I think that's the gist of it, one person is in a lot of emotional distress and the other exploits that to try and recruit them to their cult or group

chilly marten
#

Exactly

eager atlas
#

The tumor part mainly being their connections to the past/commitments yeah. I'd like to think a lot of people go into law enforcement to help people first, money second, not always the case though.

#

Now the part that makes me confused the most, I think we have the name of the two. Of course the Lost being "home", but also y'know, melted man being known as someone "Unwanted, Buried, Forgotten"

patent dagger
#

Im trying to "assign" lines to person 1 and 2 because that will make forming a dialogue easier

mint vine
#

can you change your reticle

eager atlas
#

The best starting point is probably to focus on creating a "image" for P1 and P2. Not literally, but a character profile. If we know who P1 is, we can try to assume who P2 is and use the dialogue we have from there

tough cedar
#

yall probably seen this before but in case you didnt

eager atlas
#

Headless chicken man

#

I like the skin by the way, the scope not matching bothers me only a little

tough cedar
#

yeah unfortunately theres not skins for the sights yet😭

raw edge
#

I'm just reading about all this and it's really neat but I have a few questions, sorry if this is the wrong place for them. What specifically is an "ARG?" I got a google definition but I'm still not quite sure what it is. Also, what is NDA? I know it's the supporter discord, but what does NDA mean? And who is Gwynn?

eager atlas
#

Alternate reality game, Gwynn is the nickname (on the NDA) for the community manager. NDA = Non-disclosure agreement, aka, they're not allowed to leak stuff without permission.

raw edge
eager atlas
#

Yeah they're here as well, but it's a seperate discord to my knowledge. I think it's for the supporters n such. I'm not sure to be honest

raw edge
#

huh ok, I'll probably be back with more questions soon, is this an ok place for them?

eager atlas
raw edge
eager atlas
#

Yessss and no. There's apparently another ARG before this, I don't have the link to the doc, but it goes into detail about what Carcosa is.

Otherwise yeah it's best to start catching up with the pinned link, Loaf does a great job organizing it and updates it as revelations come out. Don't worry about understanding everything right now though, you'll learn as you go

raw edge
eager atlas
#

I don't have the doc link, to be honest, I haven't reviewed it myself. But Cleric probably can help

raw edge
#

Ok, anything I should know from the last one to understand this one? Also, are these dates typos or European? Cause November 2022 hasn't happened yet...

eager atlas
#

Void is a.. I think Irish New Zealand based company? I don't remember, but yeah not based in the US

#

Thank you

raw edge
#

ok, so a lot of this is very very new, like some of it is from literally earlier today... what timezone are the times in? Z or new zealand or another?

#

ok, @ornate eagle sorry to ping, but tz?

eager atlas
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Times aren't so important unless it was maybe an hour or so ago. They generally give us time to think before the next hint

eager atlas
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I think the major player atm is someone named "Home", but their name is numbers that were deciphered. They have "The Lost" role, I don't think they've spoken for a bit

raw edge
eager atlas
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No, they've spoken here as well, I think the supporter server gets access to some stuff faster though. You'd have to ask Cleric about that

raw edge
eager atlas
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I'd say here since it's about the arg

raw edge
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ok

random gate
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loaf sleepin

raw edge
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Has anyone examined the candles in the splash screen? I don't really know what to look for here, but it just occurred to me that the candles in the splash screen look like they could be meaningful...

fast kiln
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How’s carcosa going

hollow vale
dawn garden
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I couldn't help but look into the reference to Columbia, which is an old reference to the United States and thought of the song, "Hail Columbia" which is a traditional patriotic song with many references but I am very likely throwing shit at the wall here. But the police/military angle brought it to mind

chilly marten
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I expect a different, a little twisted version of the song in the game

dawn garden
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Yeah, that's where my mind is going with it too

desert ether
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But it was written as "Columbia", maybe it's different but I'm no American so idk

dawn garden
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That's a fat-finger typo on my part and autocorrect

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Though as a civil war reenactor, I'm interested in the possible connection

desert ether
patent dagger
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My theory is that MLO is led by a boomer and they all fell for the "back in my day" bullshit

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so they want to bring USA back to the "good old days"

dawn garden
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Hmmm. Your name makes me think of the line in the short story, neglected, deserted, forgotten

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Which is in reference to the monuments and grave markers

desert ether
radiant sonnet
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squam

ornate eagle
ornate eagle
weary linden
radiant sonnet
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Port hoken is just a trade stop for carcosa

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I cant wait for the full game

thorn geode
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oh shit this reopened

raw edge
raw edge
lean mica
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Reject confusion
Accept ISO format

2022-01-12

rare arrow
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jesus

raw edge
marble aurora
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not being passive aggressive about it
yea i mean its kind of your fault, it is very very more likely the date format that 90% of the world uses and not a date that is in the future. you know, the world isnt centered around america, right?

eager atlas
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I dunno, we all know Europeans exist at least 4-5 hours ahead in the future. Wizards

desert ether
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i foresaw that

eager atlas
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Me eating dinner at 12pm:
happymagic

desert ether
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dinner is dinner

radiant sonnet
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Oops interacted with normal server gotta run

ornate eagle
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I wasn't tryna be passive aggressive if you're talking about me

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it is on the first page of the Google doc, but I'm not that upset about reminding you

glossy obsidian
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Hey I'm a bit new, how far are we into this ARG rn?

ornate eagle
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not very, check pinned for the google doc on what we have so far

glossy obsidian
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Do we have theories as to what it might lead to? like is there a big corporation in game behind all this?

ornate eagle
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yes but people are largely going too far and doing far too much guesswork. we know very little about them atm

glossy obsidian
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Im guessing RoN is gonna have a big story and Void is slowly uncovering the base of it in this ARG

ornate eagle
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essentially yes

glossy obsidian
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Thats my guess

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I hope void keeps the story realistic and doesn't go into like ghosts/monsters or some shit.

ornate eagle
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nah i dont think it's gonna be ghosts and shit, a lot of what we see is metaphorical

glossy obsidian
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probably a cult. I imagine theres gonna be a super screwed up mission where theres a cult and we see people who were sacraficed and stuff.

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Potential idea? Seems like a cool set up

mighty fable
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all I know is that like, a long time ago they said the game had a story about crime being really stinky in this place

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maybe this ties into it

lavish badge
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Not sure if this is any use. Could just be a reference to Louisiana (part of the Confederate States).

wanton prairie
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Sic Semper Tyrannis
something something Anti Federalist

lavish badge
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That was what John Wilkes Booth said after he assassinated Abraham Lincoln. Booth was a Confederate sympathizer.

maiden bobcat
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But I think this is just a stand in for the cult.

chilly marten
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wait whats with the union flag then

dawn garden
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It's a revolutionary flag

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The Betsy Ross flag

chilly marten
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ah thats true mb

lavish badge
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Uh, <@&925148041126760529>, this seems like a phishing link.

sage helm
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got it

tepid basalt
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sm1 explain in like 1 sentence what this ARG is about

clever portal
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cult

stuck gyro
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flowers

patent dagger
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militia

tacit sequoia
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flower cult, everyone cute, 000111000

surreal sedge
regal halo
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lol

rotund tinsel
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The early trailers and teasers had this subtle horror element throughout. I'm assuming it could be in relation to a far-right cult/militia, and the spiral of madness the SWAT team goes through as the campaign progresses. Perhaps the game gets more surreal/horrifying the more the SWAT team interdicts members of the cult.

broken quiver
rotund tinsel
broken quiver
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It kinda frustrated me just because you can’t do anything nowadays if if doesn’t comply with the leftists beliefs

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It’s so stupid. It’s a realistic swat game, and they are butthurt by it

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They expect it to be some fortnite crap where you jump off a party bus and do emotes

rotund tinsel
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When you get the guy who shot your breacher

mystic shore
broken quiver
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Kotaku reminds of that ā€œtedā€ scene when he’s in court and he gets mad and plays angry birds

orchid valley
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can anyone DM me the maps up side down view? tryna get used to maps

final tundra
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if kotaku hates a game it usually means it’s automatically a solid 9/10 minimum

gray wasp
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Just completely fails to acknowledge any non lethals

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Makes it sound like you can only kill people

gray wasp
maiden bobcat
# gray wasp

military grade zip ties

They know those are flex cuffs I can buy at home depot or Walmart right?

violet wadi
violet wadi
short lion
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The author's issue isn't with the killing of suspects or lack thereof, it's the games framing of a militarised police force being necessary to maintain social order. Your actions are abstracted as a grade, the game supports the idea that violence is a legitimate political instrument, as Clausewitz would say.

ornate eagle
maiden bobcat
split orchid
# short lion The author's issue isn't with the killing of suspects or lack thereof, it's the ...

In my opinion, there's a need for militarised police, I think it's a case of survivor's bias form the author of the article, since the game only exposes him to SWAT situations then he thinks the game is advocating for the militarisation of police, it isn't, it would be stupid for SWAT focused game to not be purely SWAT action, I find it a bit abhorrent that the Author doesn't even refer to the mission statement of Void which is "At Void Interactive we value the voice of our customers and partners and whilst this will not dictate our direction, we will allow it to smartly influence what we do. At its core, the game honours the work of dedicated law enforcement officers across the world and in no way intends to glorify cowardly criminal acts." The game only aims to try to teach people about the work SWAT units go through and the whole police force, the game penalises you for being reckless and not abiding to ROE, though not very well done now, changes in the new update intend on polishing it. Ready or not in no way supports police brutality as the Kotaku article claims, why add a grade? it's a fucking videogame, it wouldn't be fun without a way to gauge performance. Frankly I stopped being serious about the article after he wrote "military grade zip-ties", and these people are the ones getting paid to write articles that have influence over a lot of people???

radiant sonnet
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why does my loading screen get stuck at 100%

orchid pond
# short lion The author's issue isn't with the killing of suspects or lack thereof, it's the ...

It's not a political instrument and it's not a framing. SWAT equivalents are all over the world (even in nations with very strict control on guns) for very good reasons. I want you to look up South Africa's Special Task Force, or listen to a Chicago police scanner for at least a half-hour. If you seriously think it's a framing, not to be rude but you're a bit disconnected from reality. It is a fact, not a framing and it has been this way in many countries for decades.

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Anyway, this is off topic for the channel.

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I'll wait until my message counts as a new one to say what I know as a Mythos fan about Carcosa.

ornate eagle
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@fickle finch can we rename this channel to the same as the nda one?

maiden bobcat
orchid pond
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Carcosa is a city first featured in Ambrose Bierce's "An Inhabitant Of Carcosa", which Robert W. Chambers later mentioned as a location in a fictional play called The King in Yellow in his short story collecton of the same name.

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In the former it's notably implied to possibly be on Earth while Chamber's few mentions of it imply that it is somewhere...else, if it exists at all, with twin suns and strange black stars above, a city with dim streets that rests on the Lake of Hali, whatever that is

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It should be noted that Hastur and the King in Yellow were originally different figures, the former was a non-evil god of shepherds in a short story by Bierce, the latter a malevolent but mysterious figure in Chambers' collection.

patent dagger
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Why tf are you guys debating weird shit in here

orchid pond
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Lovecraft connected the Yellow Sign (a golden symbol that is never actually depicted in Chambers' work) with Hastur in one story and in an essay described Hastur as having a cult (what Hastur was in Chambers' work was very unclear, once referred to as a being at another time referred to as a place and yet another as a planet).
Later authors sometimes associate Hastur with Lovecraft's "high priest not to be described" who wears a yellow silken mask in Dream Quest of Unknown Kadath but it's a bit of a stretch in my opinion.

Derleth during his controversial overhaul of the Cthulhu Mythos had it that Hastur is a Great Old One, is the King in Yellow, and is Cthulhu's half-brother at that.

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Back to Carcosa, basically what's known about it from Chambers' work is that it's a spooky lost city presumably somewhere...else that something bad happened to in a play called The King in Yellow, details vague.
The story that talks about it the most is more about the narrator, who describes a maddened America ruled by an Imperial Dynasty in which he wants to ignite a second Civil War and reign as Emperor of the United States. The story heavily implies he's just fucking delusional or at least very unreliable after having both fallen off a horse and read The King in Yellow, and it's questionable if the version of America he sees is real or not.

orchid pond
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...Nevermind, the first Google Doc does a better summary than I did.

ancient vessel
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wait with me, for a while. just for a minute. i'm not ready to go yet.

orchid pond
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Wait we shall.

maiden bobcat
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@ornate eagle @near egret

rocky night
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my body is ready

ornate eagle
maiden bobcat
ornate eagle
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can thank eli too

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P2: Our vow, our life, and yours, fading away. Each flame, melting, dripping, dying. We sing for them, we bleed for them, we mourn them. Unwanted, buried, forgotten, searching for home, to return.
P1: Melting. I want to forget. Hold me.
P2: That's not how the game is played. The rules changed on you, and where did it bring you? To your knees.
P1: I want to forget, why can’t I forget?
P2: You come to me, impatient, insolent. Begging for deliverance. All in time. We will free you. All will be made clear. All will be well. Just relax. Let go. Breathe. Remember. Nothing is ever lost. Only mulched.
P1: There are no dead ends. Cull the tumor. Flourish. Burn.

maiden bobcat
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@ornate eagle where does this go then?

wait with me, for a while. just for a minute. i'm not ready to go yet.

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I figured it out.

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P2: Our vow, our life, and yours, fading away. Each flame, melting, dripping, dying. We sing for them, we bleed for them, we mourn them. Unwanted, buried, forgotten, searching for home, to return.
P1: Melting. I want to forget. Hold me. Wait with me, for a while. Just for a minute. I'm not ready to go yet.
P2: That's not how the game is played. The rules changed on you, and where did it bring you? To your knees.
P1: I want to forget, why can’t I forget?
P2: You come to me, impatient, insolent. Begging for deliverance. All in time. We will free you. All will be made clear. All will be well. Just relax. Let go. Breathe. Remember. Nothing is ever lost. Only mulched.
P1: There are no dead ends. Cull the tumor. Flourish. Burn.

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@ornate eagle

ornate eagle
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@fickle finch hi...

maiden bobcat
ornate eagle
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tryna get someone to unwarp it

maiden bobcat
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No, as in.

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Check the file name and possible message embeds.

fickle finch
ornate eagle
ornate eagle
eager atlas
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Clearly Lost has got themselves a new set of Air Jordan's

maiden bobcat
orchid pond
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Trying my hand at a little interpretation of that one Twitter post and its decoded image text.

ornate eagle
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i think it's the gwynn table, but we're gonna need to split up the numbers into letters that make sense again

maiden bobcat
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okay

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@ornate eagle lemme give it a shot too and if I had to guess it's a sentence that needs to be unscrambled

ornate eagle
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to clarify, the numbers are 100% mixed in to be confusing

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i.e. it's not 1, 6, 7, 2, 2, 6, 6, as these give very weird and useless letters. It's likely some are double digits and some are single: e.g., 16, 7, 22, 6, 6,

ornate eagle
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first attempt to unwarp the image shows 2 people

eager atlas
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Yeah I was gonna say, there's 0 chance it's Zack's banner

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Looks like left guy is dead though, blood on the vest, kinda limp arms, plus laying down

wary ridge
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ahhh it's carcosa channel, had no idea tf was this channel

radiant sonnet
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you should put your hands up NOW

ornate eagle
eager atlas
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If it's out there, it was likely deleted by now

rocky night
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i remember that pic. kinda inspired by "La pietĆ " of Michelangelo.
"PietĆ " means compassion.

maiden bobcat
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@ornate eagle VQIHBBGXJAQXMBAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

junior galleon
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was carcosa solved?

maiden bobcat
rocky night
orchid pond
#
Where Heroes Go
These Tattered Souls
On Deaths Row
JOIN US AND BLOSSOM
DO YOU FEEL LIKE A HERO

While far, far from clear, I have a couple guesses. One thing I'm unsure if the "tattered souls" refers to themselves or not.
*The Lost may see themselves as "heroes", possibly related to "We will free you." and "Cull the tumor. Flourish. Burn." They may believe something needs to be improved to put it simply, quite possibly by violence. Regarding "Deaths Row", possibly connected to "Are life and death so different, in the end?" and "Our vow, our life, and yours, fading away." The Lost may have accepted that they will die. As "Deaths" is intentional, it may be regarding a series of (row) or large amount of deaths.
"Welcome, Brother" and "JOIN US AND BLOSSOM" might mean this is an attempt at recruitment, assuming these are both part of the same statement. The decoded bit seems aimed at someone who is not part of the Lost yet.
*"DO YOU FEEL LIKE A HERO" might be mockery towards the police force, and the "heroes" "on Deaths Row" might be the police or any adversary of the Lost, the "tattered souls" possibly being the scarring a police officer may go through. They may be appealing to the soul-scarred amongst the police/their enemies, implying that they will "blossom" and be heroes if they join the ranks of the Lost.

maiden bobcat
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well that fucking changes things

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@ornate eagle

ornate eagle
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i would avoid every 0 after the final 6

maiden bobcat
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@ornate eagle GBESMMRIAAABIXM

true portal
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yeah its mammaries you solved it

maiden bobcat
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kek

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I'm eating whataburger with one hand and trying to solve this with the other, damn it.

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@ornate eagle ran the thing through binary, nothing, tried different things. I'm not really sure how else to solve this.

maiden bobcat
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@fickle finch Please don't make me commit suicide at 3PM tomorrow from three shots to the back of my head. That would be very sad.

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I only know what I do off of fact finding.

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it's all fun and games until armed men in flower masks pay me a friendly visit.

patent dagger
maiden bobcat
patent dagger
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forgot to post the de-swirled photos here sowwy

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Incase anyone wanted the non-horror version

maiden bobcat
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@ornate eagle help

ornate eagle
maiden bobcat
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best I could come up with was this

maiden bobcat
desert ether
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holy shiet new clues

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and where they are in my timezone i loose them of course

maiden bobcat
true portal
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FEDG00NEPFVCGFA
fed goon

desert ether
desert ether
maiden bobcat
true portal
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except loaf put that all together

maiden bobcat
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it was a team effort

desert ether
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Props to @ornate eagle too then

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We could say you blossomed

near egret
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Just caught up @maiden bobcat, Jesus fuck this is intensifying

maiden bobcat
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I'm stumped.

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If Loaf figures something out I'll glance in, but at this point I'm more or less out of ideas.

patent dagger
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we're stumped on the cipher too

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Im bad with the ciphers best I've contributed was un-swirling the photo lol

maiden bobcat
edgy cradle
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hi russss @true portal

mortal thunder
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theres something on reverse in the logo

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thats a reversed E

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must just be the logo reversed

mortal thunder
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oh so you talking about the reversed one

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aight sorry

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because theres 2 logos there, the normal and reversed

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i see

turbid wharf
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this is carcosa chat right?

mortal thunder
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yep yep we talk about that here

eager atlas
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Into monke

hasty adder
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Perhaps the scene is question is the moment that caused an officer to swap sides to the cult? If we are playing into the most recently decoded conversation that is

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You can even see the "roots" forming from the still living one in the horror version

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Flipping to better match the original

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Also unsure if this was done yet, but does the Lost account's username mean anything? 8,15,13,5

radiant sonnet
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it means home

hasty adder
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Thanks

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Check the pins

idle hinge
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a definition of ARG would be nice I get not getting an essay summary but I can't seem to find out what ARG means lol

chilly marten
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Alternative reality gaming? Something like that, its basically the lore and world building we see outside the game. Theres some spooky stuff going on with RoN arg.

idle hinge
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Yeah it has almost an SCP vibe in the docs lol

hasty adder
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Tldr: alternate reality game which revolves around a potential antagonist that could be revealed in RoN. Some sorta flower cult. The Google doc pin does it more justice than I could ever give

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Most ARG's involve the use of cryptography and puzzles involving ciphers and other decoding methods

chilly marten
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While reading docs at first I thought VOID was tryin to recruit me in to some extremist group tbh

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Using the game as a cover up

hasty adder
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I'd think you were in on it considering your background image and profile note lol

chilly marten
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Lmao true

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Damn

idle hinge
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Looking through this ARG starting to piece it together and it's starting to make more sense. It feels very recruity (in-lore) almost towards police officers on page 27.
"Our vow..." (oath officer takes when sworn in) "...our life and yours fading away..." (perhaps referencing a dying profession or lack of appreciation) "Each flame Melting, dripping, dying." (Referencing friends/fellow officers dying?)
"We sing for them, we bleed for them, we mourn for them..." (police officers protecting people and being part of the community). "...Unwanted, buried, forgotten" (feeling like people don't appreciate their work, them dying on the streets their brothers being buried after encounters). "...Searching for home, to return." (searching for meaning in a portrayed bleak situation, a place to belong).
"Melting..." (I interpret as watching another officer die) "...I want to forget. Hold Me. Wait with me, for a while. Just for a minute. I'm not ready to go yet..." (Person 1 in the ARG is being asked to join a group with less than virtuous intent but is indecisive.)
"That's not how the game is played." (Person 2 wants him to make a choice) "The rules changed on you, and where did it bring you? To your knees." (The aforementioned death of a colleague and perhaps exterior societal influences took away the pride Person 1 an assumed police officer in this scenario had in his job, an attempt to coerce Person 1 into agreeing to join)
"I want to forget, why can't I forget?" (referencing death of his colleague again)
"You come to me, impatient, insolent. Begging for deliverance. All in time. We will free you. All will be made clear. All will be well. Just Relax. Let Go. Breathe. Remember. Nothing is ever lost. Only mulched." (Obviously more recruiting bs)
"There are no dead ends. Cull the tumor. Flourish. Burn" (Person 1 finally agreeing to join them, to start over and remove the perceived weakness of protecting others by instead living for themselves as a part of this cult)
Idk just the vibes I got I could be totally of the mark

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Also I don't see a mention of the channel description "you can be so much more if you cut away the rot." in the ARG

desert ether
idle hinge
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Very possible

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It's 2am so I'm overthinking everything

desert ether
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Well it's very probably another hint that maybe got missed, it would fit well the theme of the cult

idle hinge
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Out of curiosity I also tried an Ottendorf Decoder with "An Inhabitant of Carcosa" as my base, didn't get anything interesting until I grouped the numbers into threes at which point selecting by first letter of the word I got "sotidd" and by each word I got the phrase "Striking over to I death depressions"

patent dagger
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We're still trying to solve
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maiden bobcat
gritty pilot
maiden bobcat