#💬general-discussion

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split glade
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its impossible

sleek trail
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impossible you say?

rose drum
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Hello everyone cool5

stray spire
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Howdy

halcyon stump
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whats up gang happerator

pliant briar
steel hare
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Are there any mods that add progression to the game?

Like, making NVGs have a limited field of view compared to GPNVGs so they actually have a difference, and making it so you have to unlock NVGs and then later unlock GPNVGs?

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I know this is basically a SWAT sandbox, but I feel like unlocking weapons, unlocking attachments, and such could make the game feel more like an investment.

viscid vale
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Honestly, I don't want a progression unlock.

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I want to have everything in my disposal to use adjusting accordingly to the threat I would encounter.

rare imp
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I would like progression, even if it is just in commander mode

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but NVG's already have a different overlay compared to the gps

viscid vale
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In Commander Mode, it'd make sense. But I wouldn't want it in Quick Play and Multiplayer.
And even in Commander Mode, I'd prefer an option that the game asks if you want to start with the gears you unlocked previously locked in that specific saving.

covert rampart
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I liked the current progression we had with clothing items, but with equipment and items? I feel like I'd stray away from commander mode. It would feel like I'm playing call of duty, having to do something to level up to unlock a weapon, its attachments, or even NVG's? Yeahhhh, no.

It would ONLY make sense to me if there was a way of unlocking it through money earned from missions, like maybe when you do a drug bust it earns you department funds, but it still doesn't make sense to me.

As someone who sometimes likes to play with different weapons, different gear, and use different approaches I would feel very limited and it would just make the game even harder being stuck with a few weapons especially with our current cracked-up AI

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I feel like at that point you're just making commander mode even more difficult, unless they make it a separate mode you can do like how we have the option for ironman mode.

fallen sail
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What if we nuked commander mode from orbit smidog

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Even if we didn't get a progression system i still pray we get something that limits your loadout at all

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Potentially a max budget for your team that can be increased in commander mode over the course of the game

viscid vale
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Do people still have the BORTAC Judge that VOID released in a photo?

plucky dirge
fallen sail
gusty stump
muted belfry
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ready or nah

covert rampart
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I don't know if this questions been answered or not, but, does anyone know where VOID gets the inspiration for some of the maps and background stories involving all the suspects, civilians, etc?

fallen sail
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I mean most of them are references to media or real events

covert rampart
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Makes sense, I feel like leviathan was a straight shot to 'Just Stop Oil'

fallen sail
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Oh yeah the ecoterrorists are definetly just stop oil protesters if they were even dumber

viscid vale
covert rampart
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Whos to say they arent dumber already smidog

fallen sail
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and somehow got their hands on military grade equipment

stray spire
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Ready or bust

harsh edge
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Military grade equipment 🫵 😭

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What a fallacy 😭

halcyon stump
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anyone else having trouble with the visceral blood mod? it seems to make my game freeze up.

covert rampart
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its either outdated or your PC cant handle the amount of blood being processed, I use vanilla and the more a suspect bleeds the more laggy it is

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it's probably got something to do with your texture settings

covert rampart
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What

fallen sail
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If the decals are that hard on your pc i think you have bigger problems

fallen sail
halcyon stump
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i let it sit for about 5 min then close the game

covert rampart
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Especially if their bleeding out

halcyon stump
fallen sail
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Not sure what the problem is, where did you download it from?

halcyon stump
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off the workshop in game

fallen sail
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yeah see there's your problem

haughty rock
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Discord has just made an announcement: It's bad news, there's a possibility of a cyber attack event taking place tomorrow or later tonight on all social networks, including Discord. There will be people trying to send you gory images, racist insults, filthy pictures, and there will also be IP thieves, hackers and doxxers.

I advise you not to accept friend requests from people you don't know, and to remain cautious. Also spread this message to other servers or communities where you have admin or owner permissions, and use mentions to spread the warning. I hope everyone stays safe.

Also, make sure you're offline tomorrow or at night, as this will reduce the risk to you. If possible, send this message to your friends to spread the word more quickly. I repeat, remain cautious.

It doesn't matter if it's true or not, the important thing is for everyone to be vigilant on this delicate subject.

Broadcast by a moderator in case of emergency.

Feel free to share this information with your servers too, if you have any. It could be a false alarm, but if it isn't, it's better to warn as many people as possible!

this is copy and pasted from various servers. please stay safe.

covert rampart
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Ahhhhh

covert rampart
fallen sail
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If people know about it then it's not really a good attack is it

fallen sail
covert rampart
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True, True

fallen sail
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Nobody's trusting that shit again

covert rampart
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It was fine for like the first week and then problems

fallen sail
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Every mod on there is outdated since they couldn't be fucked to make mod.io work at all

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so modders just stopped bothering

viscid vale
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Is that misinformation? Because that statement does got me a bit worried.

fallen sail
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It's a whole buncha nothing, you have nothing to worry about, just don't read any message requests you get if you're that worried

covert rampart
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It could be, if it isnt theres a 99.99999999% chance you'll be fine. It's either just a scare prank or some wannabe hackers making threats on social media. But if you're really worried just make sure to have your discord account set to 2FA and dont open any message requests or accept any friend requests

fallen sail
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oh no the scary "hackers 🤓" are gonna message me

covert rampart
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Also I just looked it up, this same incident was warned about 2 months ago and it said it was gonna happen the day after. Also, there was a data leak breach for a third party backup service called restorecloud that people had to sign up for, on Feb 3rd

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You're fine lol

crude lake
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Thats a copy-pasta from over 3 years ago.. jenniekek

covert rampart
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Lmao

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Also if discord wanted to, they could just have their discord bot send you a warning message lol

fallen sail
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I've never even seen a message from that bot in all the time i was here

crude lake
covert rampart
fallen sail
simple turret
stray spire
stray spire
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Ah I sse

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Restrocord

faint wigeon
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I dont like the look of supressors on most guns but i have to use them for my damn ears

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Is their a way to turn down only gun volume??😭

gaunt holly
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Nope, it's supposed to be loud and annoying

faint wigeon
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Yeahh i know i just hate supressors

gaunt holly
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Turn the volume down lol

tardy wraith
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anyone know what is iron mode

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how to start it

stray spire
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Perma death

gaunt holly
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You win commander mode all the missions. No dying allowed

stray spire
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Basically a roguelike

quiet fulcrum
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Iron man? More like Fe-male.
Wait a minute....

dense python
quiet fulcrum
tardy wraith
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strict request...

quiet fulcrum
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when you get to the screen with current saves, you'll see a button to switch it on or off

tardy wraith
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will it hinder the achievement acquiring?

dense python
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Yes
You cant get hermit

harsh edge
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Meow mfers 😠

boreal ore
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Miaw miaw.

stray spire
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Har har har har tony stark

dense python
faint wigeon
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No ty

dense python
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🐟

faint wigeon
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Getting an S on the last mission is impossible idc

dense python
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Lies

faint wigeon
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Not lies, especially when every enemy has the sight and aim of prime john wick

gaunt holly
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Go for A and call it a day

faint wigeon
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Absolutely not

gaunt holly
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🫵 😭

faint wigeon
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dont you dare ever recommend such a disgusting thing

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we do not settle for mediocrity in this dojo

dense python
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Blue blue blue!

fallen sail
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just use the taser and crossmap every AI that can't hit the broadside of a barn

dense python
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Battering ram only
Easy S rank

fallen sail
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i can't s rank when i kill my teammates with it 😔

dense python
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rip

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Bash only then
AI teammates dont die to bashes
At least not easily

faint wigeon
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I got ptsd from battering rams, ive gotten killed by it atleast 4 times from my friend

solid cape
dense python
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🐟

stray spire
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I dont care about rank

dense python
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Me neither
Why would one care about score if they're playing lethal
You're not gonna get an S anyways

stray spire
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Indeed

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I wont use pepperballs/beanbag again

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I'll bring a taser but its like never used

dense python
# stray spire Indeed

Tell that to my random teammates in public lobbies
One of them started the mission over for like 5 times because we lost some points

stray spire
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Yeah I dont play multiplayer for a reason

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I just use Ai and call it a day

dense python
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If you get a good team its fun
But
You dont get a good team most of the time

faint wigeon
dense python
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Right
Solo is better

stray spire
fallen sail
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While i don't think AI will ever replace playing with other people it can offer a cool, engaging experience if the AI and it's commands in relation to gameplay are introduced well.
The problem is that i don't think RON does so for either

faint wigeon
stray spire
stray spire
fallen sail
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I think the ai is still pretty bad

waxen latch
fallen sail
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It used to be borderline unusable, but it's still pretty bad

stray spire
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Care to elaborate?

waxen latch
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adam

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pretty certain most if not all commands were broken

fallen sail
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1.0 was worse imo

waxen latch
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swat?

fallen sail
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AI couldn't even complete basic commands you issued to them

gaunt holly
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The ai is pretty good. You can clear entire maps by just issuing commands

waxen latch
gaunt holly
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RTS ron when?

waxen latch
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by a mile

fallen sail
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Dunno, didn't play with AI much during adam

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I tried the "new and thoroughly tested" SWAT AI on 1.0 and my jaw instantly dropped at how utterly dogshit they were

grizzled meadow
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Anyone else giving up on sleeping

gaunt holly
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Nope

fallen sail
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yea

gaunt holly
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Going to sleep now, acktshually

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Thanks for the reminder

stray spire
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I always see people say "ai bad ai bad" but no one explains why

grizzled meadow
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I’m sick and I got school tomorrow so I’m hoping I don’t gotta go lol

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What AI are we talking about?!

stray spire
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I think people just dont wanna use ai and then just say its bad because they just dont play with ai

stray spire
grizzled meadow
waxen latch
grizzled meadow
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Or that on custom maps the don’t listen to command s

waxen latch
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pretty certain its just flash and clear

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most of the time

stray spire
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The mirrorgun is also s tier item

fallen sail
# stray spire I always see people say "ai bad ai bad" but no one explains why

I could make you a thorough list but that would take all day, so i'll just give some bullet points:
The AI is slow
The AI doesn't clear properly
The AI doesn't get into cover when it's being shot at
The AI overextends
The AI is incapable of using grenades properly
The AI cannot be left alone as they are almost incapable of dealing with certain threats on their own

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Those are all bad but none of them is as bad as automatic evidence and arrests

covert rampart
# stray spire I always see people say "ai bad ai bad" but no one explains why

As someone whos used all the commands in the menu and all the new commands too, yeah, the AI is bad. I've had issues with them not doing the task when ordered to, not stacking up, the teams switching tasks when I gave one to the other. Then you have them acting like a bag of rocks, not too much flow, the suspect AI having more character and movement then they do, and they one-shot everything like a turret. It needs work.

waxen latch
fallen sail
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The AI is only truly effective when the player is in front and they're used as an afterthought

covert rampart
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My AI is only useful when they follow me or when I have them do cleanup afterwards

waxen latch
covert rampart
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Oh and they cant even do cleanup properly too

stray spire
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The entire game is slow, there's not a sprint option
How does it not clear properly? I have legit told them to clear, and they will continue to clear even more rooms even if I didnt tell them to
Yeah Ai doesnt cover properly, but not like theres much to get into cover to in general
Everyone overextends, ai and people
I could agree that ai could use grenades better, but I also just dont use grenades in general
I disagree I think ai is capable of dealint with threats on their own, just gotta build them for the certain map you play on

Yeah they may not react to what you told them to, does need to be fixed, yes all ai need to not have 1 shot kills thats annoying asf I agree

waxen latch
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i know the AI struggles on maps with trained suspects, like penthouse or hotel, in those yeah they are shit sometimes

covert rampart
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Ive had them get stuck staring at a gun on the floor for over 15 min when I went AFK

waxen latch
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getting cagged by the last suspect

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everytime

livid depot
# stray spire I always see people say "ai bad ai bad" but no one explains why

heres 2 examples off the top of my head

  1. i tell my team to stack up on the door, and atleast 1 of them leave the building to go around the back to stack up. aka the part where i havent cleared, so they might aswell shoot themselves

  2. ai decides when in a firefight to move into an open area with no cover to fight

fallen sail
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i finished commander on ironman recently without issuing orders to AI outside of search and secure, most of my failures came from SWAT AI suiciding by arresting a suspect in front of an open door

stray spire
covert rampart
livid depot
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and i have to tell him to stop like 3 times before he stops

fallen sail
stray spire
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Ive never had that issue

fallen sail
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Commands like deploy flashbangs are completely useless because of that plus the fact the SWAT AI just can't throw grenades for shit

livid depot
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sometimes the ai just moves infront of where your firing from

fallen sail
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There's also no "building" for your AI to walk through a door facint backwards

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You're acting like overextending is intentional but it's very clearly a bug, i don't need prescott solo clearing the 2nd floor of meth on his own, thanks

covert rampart
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The amount of times I've died and rage quit from my AI walking infront of me during a shootout and not letting me move or aim my weapon is horrendous

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I work well with an actual team of players, but with an AI team? I'm faster on my own

fallen sail
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Genuienly what foxii is saying, wrangling your AI team is a waste of time where you can just chain them behind you like turrets

waxen latch
fallen sail
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If they decided they saw a tasty evidence or surrendered suspect you can go fuck yourself since the hold command doesn't work after that

waxen latch
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during the animation yeah, but idk if they never ignore my command before that

fallen sail
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I have a vid of a SWAT clearing nightclub on his own to get to a bugged AK on the second floor lmao

fallen sail
stray spire
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Overextending can be done intentionally or unintentionally

fallen sail
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Please stop trying to defend that, that's a bad hill to die on

waxen latch
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wish I had clips for every single scenario and ask the devs if something is intended or not

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probably wont get an answer anyways

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(we never do)

fallen sail
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I can tell you for sure that the shield that's stacked up on a door going in the opposite direction when being told to clear is not intentional

fallen sail
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that happened by complete accident lmao

covert rampart
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Lol reminds me of the Rush Hour "Yu" scene

stray spire
fallen sail
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Yeah you can say that again

covert rampart
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Hopefully this AI survey they put out means major ai tweaks

fallen sail
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The ai isn't "not perfect", if the AI that you're supposed to keep alive for an achievement kills itself consistently then the AI is BAD

waxen latch
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woops

fallen sail
waxen latch
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SHUT UP

fallen sail
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LMAO

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oh fuck hopefully nobody saw that

fallen sail
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YOU'RE IN MY SPOT SIR gun_cat

stray spire
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Ai is fine

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I will die on this hill

fallen sail
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the indomitable human spirit

covert rampart
faint wigeon
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Theres a trick for the ai to be more useful

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Dont use them

covert rampart
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Yeah its Middle Mouse Button > Hold

fallen sail
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FUCK i wanted to say it

covert rampart
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Me too

stray spire
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98% of my game has been with ai

faint wigeon
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no i just load up a friends only server so i dont even have to do that

covert rampart
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I used to think the AI were fine too, but nah theyve just gotten too much

stray spire
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And I still prefer ai over human temates

faint wigeon
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My ai would always die in any gunfight ever

fallen sail
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Imma be honest i'd rather take public lobbies

stray spire
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I basically despise public lobbies

covert rampart
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You prefer a computer/bot who has to process whether or not to move or do something over a living human that can coordinate with you and flow better?

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Remind me to never listen to your opinion again

fallen sail
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genuienly nothing compares to a real communicating team

fallen sail
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especially since you're making memories

stray spire
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Because real people dont corodonate

faint wigeon
covert rampart
fallen sail
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And neither does the AI shibalul

covert rampart
stray spire
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Uh huh thats why theres a whole command menu, its not to corodnate the ai nope never

faint wigeon
covert rampart
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Then you play with the wrong people

stray spire
fallen sail
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Sometimes one team will get tired of waiting for the other team to get in place so they'll just breach into a room on their own shibalul

fallen sail
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It literally does

stray spire
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Literaly doesnt

covert rampart
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I'm out this conversation lol

livid depot
covert rampart
livid depot
fallen sail
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Don't worry, they'll just kill you without prompt lmao

livid depot
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no special surprise if the gods think you didnt mean to

fallen sail
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If you move around the AI are more than happy to shoot you in the back of the head too

covert rampart
covert rampart
stray spire
stray spire
covert rampart
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Woah buddy, my bad

faint wigeon
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I dont like players nor ai

stray spire
covert rampart
faint wigeon
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I like being john wick

livid depot
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wish they could give u a fighting chance

fallen sail
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It's almost like the AI wouldn't be able to kill the player in a fair fight yea

stray spire
covert rampart
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public lobbies in any game are 90% bad, they are public for a reason

stray spire
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Which has been my argument from the start

fallen sail
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DRG has awesome public lobbies

covert rampart
radiant fog
stray spire
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I don't care/play enough

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If I hop on its like for half an hour

covert rampart
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There are people who like to run modded RNG lobbies, fast and clear versus those who like to play it slow and realistic

stray spire
covert rampart
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I'm just saying you cant say that human dont coordinate with what you're saying

radiant fog
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well use it then, everyone actually talks and knows how to play the game

covert rampart
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^^

radiant fog
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it's fun

stray spire
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Im gonna spend more time tryna find people than actually play

fallen sail
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Most of my time in this game is actually in public lobbies i think, it's definetly mixed

covert rampart
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Okay so I see why you die on the AI hill, you barely take the time to find people to play with in LFG, do that then come back

radiant fog
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like at most

covert rampart
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then you cant say that Humans dont coordinate

stray spire
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Go to a public lobbt and coordinate then

radiant fog
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the people in public lobbies don't talk

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does not mean that humans are uncoordinated

covert rampart
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I have before, but if you look for people to coordinate with you FIND people who have mics and are looking to play the game. A good chunk of people who play this game/play in public lobbies treat this as a RNG Siege-Like shooter

radiant fog
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they are way better than the ai tactics-wise but the ai has cracked aiming and will always drop people in like a couple shots

covert rampart
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You don't go to someone in a public lobby who bought the game for a different reason and then say no one can coordinate, thats pretty biased

faint wigeon
radiant fog
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rust belt isn't that hard

faint wigeon
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Well yeah but that just shows that u dont need to talk is whag i meant

radiant fog
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u don't need to talk on an easy map if everyone has some knowledge of the game

dense python
faint wigeon
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Yeah well i purposely use a horrible mic so its best i dont say anything in a game like this

covert rampart
radiant fog
faint wigeon
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Which one is relapse

radiant fog
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coastal grove medical center

faint wigeon
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Ohh

dense python
faint wigeon
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Yeah i remember soloing that one and it being horrifying

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Only got a B so ima prolly go back

halcyon oar
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chat function:

radiant fog
dense python
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Chat
Meow chat

faint wigeon
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For a server with 200k members it aint exactly alive most the time

shadow shard
dense python
covert rampart
shadow shard
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Middle mouse button you mean

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Tab hold is the tablet

halcyon oar
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What

covert rampart
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Wait, yeah no your right I got it mixed up

halcyon oar
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those who swat 4

fallen sail
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tell it to the DA

covert rampart
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Imma do relapse solo and see if its still the same, havent played it in months but I see people struggling

dense python
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Relapse is easy

covert rampart
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It should be, if you dont rush it

dense python
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People here say that one mission with a house in the middle of the forest is difficult

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So

covert rampart
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Its like 3 guys and a bunch of booby traps, its not difficult

modest fern
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pure skill issue

dense python
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Right

faint wigeon
halcyon oar
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evil ron players: i will not kick every door i see

rare imp
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Every map was difficult at some point, you simply got better smidog

modest fern
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Idk blue

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If you struggled with Obsession or Fast Food (barricaded) idk what to tell you

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Riskiest thing on Obsession is the traps or Gerard holdin an angle

dense python
stray spire
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To sum it up:
Everyone has their own preferences to playing
Theres us who enjoy the ai
And theres others who hate ai
The ai isnt perfect but Id say its useable,
Theres people who have had great times in lobbies and theres people who havent had good lobbies

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Everyones games are different from everyones

dense python
covert rampart
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uh huh sure

stray spire
covert rampart
covert rampart
fallen sail
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It doesn't completely disable death animations though

crude leaf
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How would a ragdoll mod stop that from happening

covert rampart
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cause I would think getting shot several times in the side would at least knock your ass, its like these suspects have 0 ragdoll until death

crude leaf
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Ah right

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Idk if mods are able to do that yet
But in general shots need more impact on suspects

covert rampart
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I know I know, adrenaline, but thats not always the case

fallen sail
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But 2 shots incap to the torso

covert rampart
crude leaf
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At the end of the day it's a game and having someone tank rounds with little reaction doesn't feel good

fallen sail
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I'd love for there to be an euphoria-like system in RON but that's most likely never happening

crude leaf
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They need to add limping and stronger debuffs to suspects

crude leaf
fallen sail
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can you guess how you activate it smidog

crude leaf
covert rampart
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Oh like GTA 4-5?

crude leaf
fallen sail
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More like fully simulated nervous response

crude leaf
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Yeah lol

fallen sail
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Shit's crazy

covert rampart
crude leaf
fallen sail
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But atleast active ragdolls woulda been nice

fallen sail
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You need to get suspects to about 10 hp (literally impossible)

crude leaf
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I love suspect ai it's perfect and there is nothing wrong with it ❤️

fallen sail
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It happened a lot during ADAM and it was very funny when you had it on knife suspects

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because they would very slowly walk towards you with hostile intent

crude leaf
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Pfft

fallen sail
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immortal snail type shit

covert rampart
fallen sail
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I don't remember him limping towards the camera in that video

crude leaf
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Incaps could really do with better ragdolls and sounds, aswell as giving more points
Whoever made incaps give you the same points as kills is silly and needs a light slap

covert rampart
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Talking about the snail gliding and- nvm

crude leaf
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Suspects also need to be able to fake incaps idk why they never implemented that when incaps were added

fallen sail
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Yeah like what

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what were they thinking

crude leaf
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They forgor 💀

solid cape
fallen sail
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💀

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excellently tought out

crude leaf
fallen sail
covert rampart
crude leaf
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I imagine that's another thing they didn't update when adding incaps

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The dev process more spaghetti than the game code

waxen latch
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italian

covert rampart
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Where does SWAT keep the evidence bags in this game? Do we Keister it? lol

crude leaf
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Remember when the devs said the evidence bags were placeholders haha

normal sinew
crude leaf
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Entry team to toc
Bagging

north tusk
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Hi l am wondering what weapons are planned to be added in the future?

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I am making a weapons wish list for this game

covert rampart
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Unknown, they don't have a roadmap

fallen sail
covert rampart
#

Imo we have a lot of weapons, no?

fallen sail
#

Yes but most people would rather have a reskinned weapon rather than actual changes to the gameplay

#

The weapon people need to eat too

north tusk
#

Oh thanks for letting me know

north tusk
#

Or like the Sig p226

fallen sail
#

the 226 is a suspect weapon, so is the glock 17

#

(i think)

north tusk
#

Oh thats even better they are already modeled in the game!

fallen sail
#

Yes but most of them are not made to work in the player's hands

faint wigeon
north tusk
covert rampart
faint wigeon
#

They should add custom vests, weapon skins, etc. kinda like bo3

#

Alot of people would make some crazy stuff, both unhinged and maybe better reskins for weapons

#

Mods are great but built in customization would be even better

#

But thatl prolly never happen

#

This game is really weird with wanting to be realistic and not at the same time

fallen sail
#

Ron doesn't need allat, the customisation we already have is pretty fucky

faint wigeon
#

Needs more customization, for people who want to go for a certain look or just for people who want their guns to look cool

#

It wouldn’t hurt

#

Thats why i like the tattoo system, a cool cosmetic for ppl who earned it

fallen sail
#

It would look ridiculous in most cases, the game is barely fine with the current customisation, clipping glasses and all

#

The old patch system they had in mind woulda been enough, but they scrapped that aswell

faint wigeon
#

Ok the least they could do is custom patches for ur vest

#

That would be good enough for me

fallen sail
#

Nope, cut because "People could put bad stuff on there 🥺 "

covert rampart
#

I swear the way these suspects act I go from a SWAT officer giving them a chance of putting the weapon down to a hitman using stingers first bullets second

faint wigeon
#

Which is the best voice in the game

fallen sail
#

They mentioned they might wanna add a patch system with pre set patches which would enable custom patches but only for those that have them also installed

sacred lichen
fallen sail
#

heavy armor be like

faint wigeon
#

There probably will be another dlc right?

fallen sail
#

Next one is supposed to be free

covert rampart
#

The last 2 DLC have been free for me cause of supporter edition, so hopefully that remains the case

faint wigeon
#

The dlcs should just be free lol, 3 missions

#

Reminds me of payday dlcs, 1-2 missions a weapon and a mask for like 12$

#

And theres like 60 of them

fallen sail
covert rampart
covert rampart
fallen sail
#

You got your assets, they just changed them when they felt like it smidog

shadow shard
#

LOL

fallen sail
#

Seriously, about half of what was in the original trailer was not received by supporters

#

Atleast in 1.0

shadow shard
#

Man, I'm not even surprised

covert rampart
#

That was in the DLC description

#

We have the shirt and pants and belt but not the vest or helmet or gloves

fallen sail
#

So was the first expansion, which they didn't do

#

So was the m590, which they changed

#

So was the HRT shield, which they removed the letters from

#

So was the scope from the BCM which never made it into the game

#

I think the PF9C is the only thing that got in unscathed

covert rampart
#

Regardless of what they change I just want a full finish of the HRT ranger green

dense python
#

I want winter camo

covert rampart
#

and maybe a full finish of the Black HRT variant

karmic lion
#

hello i am super new to the game and i wanted to ask will all the mission be like to have zero lethal use of guns to get s grade,like the first 3 missions if i didnt play with my flashbangs or smokes etc i couldnt get a s grade,so zero usage of the main weapon is it like that the whole game?

#

wrong channel

wicked dove
#

ANyways guys do u know if RoN is on Mac yet

plain wedge
#

hi everyone heart for you ❤️

raven wind
#

Sup

faint wigeon
#

Oh my god i have school and a game today and i haven’t slept bcus ive been playing this god damn game 😭

#

Its so over

plain wedge
#

i feel you homie

trail sun
#

Hey guys, is ready or nots music copyrighted? im new to streaming and im not sure if i have to mute the music in ready or not

tired canopy
#

What isthe best armor and primary weapon?

faint wigeon
trail sun
sacred lichen
trail sun
#

its down to preference really

sacred lichen
#

Light ceramic all the way

trail sun
trail sun
sacred lichen
#

Yeah heavy isn't really necessary

solid cape
dense python
#

🦐

gusty stump
#

🦈

rigid bone
harsh edge
#

@rigid bone

#

Kami san

rigid bone
#

No

#

No Kaminsky

#

Only Nightreign

gusty stump
#

Vaati explaining some lore for 6hrs again.

rigid bone
#

Naw, only like 20 minutes for the gameplay overview

#

I'm 100% down for a Rogue-lite Souls game

harsh edge
#

UwU

crude lake
#

The whole concept of the game is weird to me xD

harsh edge
#

No u

crude lake
#

Thats old news KevinSmile

faint wigeon
#

It just feels like filler, which is good i guess because thag means they probably have big plans for their next game

dusk gull
#

in in in in in in

dense python
#

wow

gaunt holly
crude lake
#

Yeah but 40 bucks for this arcade asset-reuse with taking out everything that makes a souls game what it is... yeah no.
Not for me.

fiery terrace
#

hi guys, can someone link to me the mod that improve the realism for the FOV? (sry for bad english)

vague sandal
# fiery terrace hi guys, can someone link to me the mod that improve the realism for the FOV? (s...

Problématique expérimentale :

"Quel est l'impact de l'exposition prolongée à SCP-999 sur la santé physique et mentale des sujets humains ?"

Cette question vise à explorer les effets à long terme de l'interaction avec SCP-999, une entité reconnue pour sa capacité à induire des émotions positives et un bien-être mental chez les individus. Bien que ses effets immédiats soient largement bienveillants, il est essentiel de comprendre si une exposition prolongée pourrait avoir des conséquences inattendues sur la santé physique, mentale ou comportementale des sujets.

L'objectif est de déterminer :

L'étendue de l'effet de SCP-999 sur la psychologie humaine à travers plusieurs sessions.
L'impact de SCP-999 sur l'état physique des individus exposés à long terme.
La durée d'efficacité de ses effets positifs.
Les risques potentiels associés à une exposition prolongée, malgré les effets principalement bénéfiques.
Ce cadre expérimental permettra de mieux comprendre les limites d’une interaction continue avec SCP-999 et d'identifier d'éventuels effets secondaires non perçus jusque-là.

rigid bone
coarse terrace
#

Why did he send the scp 999 article in french

rigid bone
#

Give me mono-combat souls game that they're still gonna cram a mountain of lore into

dusk gull
gusty stump
waxen latch
#

Without updating the mod every other day

#

Not that it is difficult to do so

#

Tapping into the console coop playerbase as well, although consoles suck

rigid bone
#

Yeye

#

This is 100% a proof of concept for whatever they have coming next to have Seamless coop

clever osprey
#

Why doesnt anything happen when i press "subscribe" in mod.io via game?

stray spire
clever osprey
#

..

stray spire
#

Use Nexus/vortex

gaunt holly
#

Mod.io ui is nice. Too bad it doesn't work or breaks the game

rigid bone
#

I mean

#

It works now

clever osprey
stray spire
#

Or use a mod manager

clever osprey
#

I dont have one

gaunt holly
clever osprey
#

Whats the shortcut for that, i know the normal paks one

gaunt holly
#

That's the one

clever osprey
#

Ohh

clever osprey
gaunt holly
#

When you download a mod from nexus, you will just need to drag that downloaded file into your paks folder

clever osprey
#

I know, but ima make a folder for them, that was what i meant 😄 Thanks

gaunt holly
#

Hmm. You can try. I'm not sure if the game can locate the file that way. You can test it out for science and let us know

clever osprey
#

Do i need to activate them ingame once i done that? I dont think so

gaunt holly
#

Nope

clever osprey
#

Nahh, no map is being shown besides the originals ones

#

Lemme try and remove that folder

gaunt holly
#

Perhaps it is the extra folder causing issues

clever osprey
gaunt holly
#

Yeah, you should be able to view the modded maps on the map selection screen. Make sure the mod is not out-dated

low cloak
#

JUST beat the third misssion lets fucking gooooooooooooooooo

#

Took me 7 tries

gaunt holly
#

Nice

clever osprey
#

Why tf is it taking me 11 estimated minutes to download 1,8GB💀

low cloak
#

Bro where am I supposed to go?

#

After beating the mission?

clever osprey
#

If you completed all the tasks, it should end automatically, unless you have to click a button to finish up. But then it would say in front of you

low cloak
#

No i finished with all task

#

Rn im in a place with "holding cell" and other stuff

clever osprey
#

Ohhh

low cloak
#

Cant find my way out

clever osprey
#

You are back from the mission

low cloak
#

Bruh

sleek timber
#

What do you see exactly?

clever osprey
#

Yeah it can be quite hard navigating, especially in the beginning, but try and look around

clever osprey
sleek timber
#

In the station?

low cloak
#

Nah im cool i tought these iron thingys were unmovable

sleek timber
#

Yeah that happened to me first time playing aswell

clever osprey
#

Me 2, hate the new station.

sleek timber
#

Ngl the new station feels more lively

clever osprey
#

But the layout is..

dense python
#

Out of the way sir!

crude lake
clever osprey
gaunt holly
dense python
#

No modded maps for you

gaunt holly
#

More vanilla maps

crude lake
dense python
#

🦀

gusty stump
#

Crab rave!

stray spire
dense python
#

Make sure to not stand on your AI teammates way

woven raven
#

can anyone help me out with getting s tier on valley of dolls rq its hard asl to control everyone solo

dense python
#

Perchance

clever osprey
clever osprey
stray spire
#

Yes

#

They NEED to be from December 11 2024 or newer

#

Welcome to world of modding

#

Had a favorite mod or a mod that looks interesting but never got updated? Gone until update

clever osprey
stray spire
#

Im confused

clever osprey
stray spire
#

It should work then

clever osprey
#

Yup, welcome to my world of modding..

stray spire
#

Did you check to see if it required other mods to work

#

And if those mods are updated or not

clever osprey
#

Not the problem

stray spire
#

Then it should work? Tbh I never tested map mods

woven raven
#

if anyone can help me complete s tier on valley of dolls lmk ts so hard to do solo

stray spire
clever osprey
stray spire
#

Interesting name, are you using a mod manager or are you doing drag and drop?

clever osprey
stray spire
#

Are you copying to PAK-FILE?

clever osprey
stray spire
#

Yes, like dragging and copying

clever osprey
#

Nah im saying, i just drag from winrar (the PAK-file) directly over into the PAKS folder

stray spire
#

I don't believe that's the correct way to do it

clever osprey
#

Then what do i need to do? Thats the normal way, just dragging a file

stray spire
#

Drag the file until you see "Copy to" whatever the same file is, let go and it should drop it in correctly

#

At least that's how I mod Cyberpunk

clever osprey
#

When i drag it over, it says greasy nuts etc etc .zip extracting greasy nuts and ends with.pak

stray spire
#

Wait hold up

#

Why are you unzipping it

clever osprey
#

Im not

stray spire
#

Let me download and investiage

#

Isn't winrar a zipper?

clever osprey
#

Yes it is, but its not unzipping it before i make it

stray spire
#

Again Ima download it for myself and investigate

#

Im not an expert in dragging and dropping

clever osprey
#

Well its the same as CTRL+C and then CTRL+V

stray spire
#

n o

clever osprey
#

Well then ima just try that

#

Same thing, dosent work

stray spire
#

I FINALLY got GREASY NUTS to work.

What I had to do was manually download a single map from "MODS" within the start up game menu.

In case you want to know, I chose the map mod "SW4T or Not- Children of Taronne Remaster (DW OK)"

I then chose this map to play from STEAM, not Vortex. I then chose to play SINGLEPLAYER COMMANDER mode in the game menu.

Once in the game at headquarters I choose the map at the mission select desk under the tab of MODDED LEVELS.

I then loaded up the SW4T map mod and unlike GREASY NUTS, the SW4T map started and played without a hitch. Good map too I might add.

GREASY NUTS never played because it crashed EVERY SINGLE TIME I tried to reach the fuel pumps. No matter what I did (and I tried a lot of different things), it was to no avail.

So once I got the SW4T map to work I went over to Vortex and MANUALLY downloaded GN into my downloads directory on my PC. I didn't down load GN via Vortex.

I then ran winrar and placed GN in the appropriate spot with all the other mods I use.

I then started another game of RoN and chose again the SW4T mod.

Once it loaded and I could move around without crashing, I exited that map and went back to headquarters.

At the mission table I then chose GREASY NUTS and what do ya know? No crashing! GN played like any other map mod.

I hope this helps anyone who was wanting to play GN but couldn't, due to it crashing. I have no idea why this worked but it has on 2 of my pc's that wouldn't work before. Heck if I know!

Cheers.

#

I saw this in the posts from the mod

#

Yeah whatever that download file is, is not normal to what I know

clever osprey
gaunt holly
clever osprey
raven stream
#

🥶

gaunt holly
#

👆

stray spire
stray spire
#

I didnt write it and I never used map mods so Im as clueless as you

clever osprey
#

I do, i just give up. Not worth my time tbh ahah. They could just make their ingame mod menu actually usable 🥲

stray spire
#

Well I think someone said mod.io may have worked but Im so used to vortex I just refuse to use in game mod stuff unlessnit has steam workshop

clever osprey
#

Nope, mod.io generally doesnt work..

viscid vale
#

Should I start a discussion on whether Ready or Not is heading in the right direction by VOID?

dense python
#

No

fallen sail
#

I still don't know what direction that is

#

It has a bunch of completely clashing ideas that are inconsistent as fuck

plain wedge
dense python
#

meow

plain wedge
#

meaw

#

sorry im special 🙂

fallen sail
unique crystal
#

is twisted nerve glitched? i was trying to S run it in multiplayer alone, so no bots, and i couldnt find last 2 evidence and saw other people saying they had the same issue (I ran around the map 3 times with highlighted evidence and still couldnt find it)

#

if it is a bug do devs know abt it?

fallen sail
#

Supposedly dropped knives might spawn outside of the map, no twisted nerve s rank for you

unique crystal
#

okay, thank you lol

fallen sail
#

I did somehow get an S despite still missing an evidence, idk what that's about

unique crystal
#

yeah i saw people saying if youre only missing one itll usually S and i think bots can do it with the secure command but i dont like playing with the bots so i think im just screwed lol

#

are any other maps bugged like this before i try to S them? ive S ranked all the small maps cus theyre quick but i dont wanna commit to a 30 min run if the map is bugged

fallen sail
#

Not that i know of

#

It's just meth in particular

plain wedge
#

why ppl dislike first dlc?

#

just wanna know your reason

#

🙂

gaunt holly
#

Dorms was a bad map. The other two were good tho

fallen sail
#

the first dlc is fine, it's just uneventful

#

narcos is easily the best map and lawmaker sucks ass while dorms doesn't play that well with the ai

unique crystal
#

is this being worked on or has this bug been around a while?

fallen sail
#

Last update introduced it

unique crystal
#

alright cool

fallen sail
#

They might patch it out, if not you're fucked and need to wait untill next update

unique crystal
#

yeah, as long as its being worked on, then im fine w it

#

plus im sure i could just go into singleplayer and try until the bots get it done for me lol

quiet fulcrum
#

who tryna be my valentine

viscid vale
#

?

quiet fulcrum
#

I mean, who tryna not be a dipshit and not open every door on lethal obsession

#

crycat 🧨

plain wedge
hardy canopy
dense python
quiet fulcrum
dense python
#

Who doesnt like trying their luck with trapped doors

plain wedge
dense python
#

🐟

quiet fulcrum
#

dark waters? more like, light lands

halcyon stump
rigid bone
quiet fulcrum
plain wedge
quiet fulcrum
#

home invasion? more like, outdoor withdrawal

plain wedge
quiet fulcrum
#

ready or not? more like, unready or is

dense python
#

Stand down repeat stand down!

quiet fulcrum
#

Stand down? More like, sit up

pure cairn
#

Must remain alone

gaunt holly
#

Play some vids online

quiet fulcrum
#

Valentines vids

gaunt holly
#

Perhaps ron

pure cairn
quiet fulcrum
#

Go to the store after valentines and buy candy on sale

pure cairn
#

But I gotta get through school first

pure cairn
quiet fulcrum
gaunt holly
dense python
#

Dont waste your money
Dont buy chocolate

gaunt holly
#

👆

quiet fulcrum
#

Buy some bitches

pure cairn
#

My poor financial decisions say otherwise

#

But nah I probably won’t buy chocolate

gaunt holly
quiet fulcrum
#

Ok y'all, favorite chocolate and non-chocolate candy. Go.

gaunt holly
#

Those ferrerro rocherrs are pretty good chocolates

quiet fulcrum
#

Mid in my opinion

rigid bone
gaunt holly
#

Not a big candy person. Chocolate ice cream is a different story tho

rigid bone
#

I get myself a monthly allotment of chocolate

#

Chocolate is good for the soul

gaunt holly
#

Tillamook mudslide #1 💅

raven stream
#

what's the average waiting period before getting permissions for #📌unit-promo channel?

dense python
#

Who paid you to say this Mr Kaminsky

rigid bone
crude lake
#

Do you guys have THESE?

rigid bone
#

Mint Icecream is peak, I will say this for free

#

HELL YEAH

#

AERO BARS

crude lake
#

Aero is the BEST

gaunt holly
#

Never seen those before

quiet fulcrum
#

My American mind cannot comprehend

gaunt holly
#

Wafer chocolate?

rigid bone
#

Nope

gaunt holly
#

Air chocolate?

rigid bone
#

basically airated chocolate

#

Yeah

#

It's so soft and delicious

crude lake
#

Just letting that bad boy slowly melt on the tongue is... ahegao

quiet fulcrum
rigid bone
#

Unique texture, generally un-tempered and on the lower coca quantity level

gaunt holly
#

Needs more cocoa

rigid bone
#

Agreed

gaunt holly
#

91%

dusk gull
#

IM POOING

gaunt holly
#

Cacoa

crude lake
#

Cocoa is the devils work. OUT with it.

quiet fulcrum
crude lake
#

But we cant resist.

quiet fulcrum
#

Cocaine 😋

gaunt holly
#

Those are pretty good

pure cairn
rigid bone
#

Fun fact: Dark chocolate is good for the heart and blood flow

gaunt holly
#

They get passed around during xmas season a lot

rigid bone
#

I may

#

HAve to rethink our relationship

quiet fulcrum
#

If you're a white "chocolate" lover consider yourself an opp

crude lake
gaunt holly
#

White lindtor chocolate is actually pretty good

crude lake
#

Thank god i NEVER hopped on the Dubai Chocolate hype waste of money train

rigid bone
#

White chocolate is a sin

gaunt holly
#

Just don't think of it as chocolate

rigid bone
quiet fulcrum
#

So just think of it as just white?

crude lake
#

White chocolate looks wrong, tastes wrong.. is wrong.

gaunt holly
quiet fulcrum
#

We eating whites out here

pure cairn
#

Bro there’s a leaf tornado

#

Help

dense python
#

No

quiet fulcrum
pure cairn
dense python
#

Did it work

quiet fulcrum
#

Tornadoes hate this one trick

pure cairn
#

No it literally just went to another area

quiet fulcrum
#

Not your problem anymore

pure cairn
#

True

dense python
#

🐟

pure cairn
#

36c temp and 40 km/h wind speed

#

Can’t wait for 90 bushfires

plain wedge
rigid bone
#

Noone has ever called me that before

spring pilot
#

mr void interactive friend

#

i cannot record RoN clips at 600fps ;-;

#

does u has void interactive logo? my film is almost done :***

rigid bone
#

Sounds like an entirely skill based Issue I'm afraid. Time to buy a 5090 and a R9 9950

spring pilot
#

punching my glass desk now

#

all ur fault

rigid bone
#

Such is life in the zone

spring pilot
#

ily

spring pilot
#

no copyright either 🙏

#

5min film = 3tb of footage

viscid vale
#

Fuck me, my charging cable was heating like hell.

#

I might've just avoided my death noticing this.

rigid bone
#

👁️

#

Apple?

viscid vale
#

Nah, Android.

rigid bone
#

Huh. USB C?

crude lake
viscid vale
#

Not sure, honestly..

rigid bone
#

C is the one that's rounded on both sides

#

Cheap or damaged USB-C cables can actually heat up and catch fire

viscid vale
#

Oh, yeah, C it is.

rigid bone
#

Thankfully, good cables are cheap

#

just like, don't buy corner store cables

viscid vale
#

Well, that one was a good cable, until it wasn't.

rigid bone
#

Damaged then

viscid vale
#

Yeah, I'm just a bit shaken up, honestly.

rigid bone
#

Actually, that's a good note

#

What sort of brick was it plugged into?

viscid vale
#

I'd send the photo if I can.

gaunt holly
#

Best brick and wire?

rigid bone
#

Depends on the charging the phone can handle

gaunt holly
#

Hmm. This is beyond my level of understanding ☹️

viscid vale
#

Well, HTC block and the Sonny one, don't exactly know the model.

#

I switched to HTC one after I realized the recharging kept getting interrupted.

#

Then in a few seconds I noticed my cable heating up.

gaunt holly
#

Interesting

rigid bone
# gaunt holly Best brick and wire?

If your phone supports fast charging, the bricks are 100w-120w output. If your cable can't handle it, at worst you get burning cables, at best you just have normal speed charging instead of fast charging

viscid vale
#

Well, I'm pretty sure my phone supports fast charging... Actually, been using it the moment I got this phone, which is around two to three years.

#

I think that's the reason it fucked up tho.

rigid bone
#

USB C or C-A cables need to also be rated to handle the wattage

#

What phone do you have?

viscid vale
#

Samsung Galaxy M33

gaunt holly
rigid bone
#

Generally that's fine

#

unless you have a really cheap phone

#

Like my Oneplus 13 came with a really nice brick

gaunt holly
#

My oneplus 11 brick is nice. It does that super speed charging

viscid vale
#

So uh, I know this is mostly common sense, but I should just ditch the cable and swap to a new one, right?

rigid bone
#

Yes

stray spire
#

Huh

viscid vale
#

Thank fuck I didn't just let it charge and fall asleep.

stray spire
#

Cheap cables=Bad

gaunt holly
#

🙏

rigid bone
#

Well, cheap cables are like

#

.90c

stray spire
#

Bad

rigid bone
#

or like the cables you get from corner stores in bad packaging

gaunt holly
#

What about amazon basics?

rigid bone
#

Strictly ok

night oxide
#

90 celsius

rigid bone
#

I don't like using AB stuff mostly because it's at the minimum acceptable quality

#

and not even that much cheaper

stray spire
#

Usb is prime

gaunt holly
#

Is Anker okay? It's a couple dollars more than Amazon basics

swift hull
#

When update

rigid bone
#

Anker is based

gaunt holly
#

Nice, I have a couple of wires that are tearing by the neck. Time to replace

rigid bone
#

Their power blocks are also really good

#

I have one for travel

gaunt holly
#

Ya I have one of those too. Very useful

stray spire
#

Block this block this when are we getting judges blockness monster

pliant briar
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can anyone tell me what is this stainless steel brand and why is it so popular?

shadow grail
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yo I got a lil problem, my friend is crashing everybody in the lobby, i don't know why is that happening

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like literally, everytime he's connecnting, we're all getting th elobby screen

winter fog
shadow bolt
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Is there a road map for 2025

viral badger
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@plucky dirge

gaunt holly
quiet fulcrum
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"fuk u"
stains your steel

elfin holly
quiet fulcrum
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buncha letters

gaunt holly
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I've been enjoying stainless steel more recently. Might get a new pan

rigid bone
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Just make sure you get some decent quality ones

gaunt holly
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Before I was suffering from skill issue so I thought they sucked

pure cairn
gaunt holly
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But fr tho. Stainless might just be goated

simple turret
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stainless frying pans nope cast iron frying pans smidog

rigid bone
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Both have their place

elfin holly
rigid bone
gaunt holly
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I don't even use my cast anymore

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Waste of space tbh

rigid bone
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I can highly reccomend more Misen or Delarlo

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All-clad is overkill unless you have mountains of money

gaunt holly
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Stainless and carbon steel are all I've been using recently. I haven't touched my ceramic or cast in a while

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Hmm the misen looks good

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The price of one misen is the same as 3 delarlo

night oxide
gaunt holly
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I have enough rewards points to cover the cost of the misen pan. Thank the 'Zon 🙏

rigid bone
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Hexclad is a coated pan, those're pretty ok but all coated pans wear out and lose their non-stick eventually. No matter how expensive they are

waxen latch
gaunt holly
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10 incher or 12 incher tho? That's the real question

rigid bone
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Well that depends

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How many people do you usually cook for?

gaunt holly
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2

night oxide
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12

rigid bone
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12 then, ye

night oxide
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Black is about to bird all over the place with his knowledge

gaunt holly
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I have 13 inch wok. It is a good size

night oxide
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Mines 14

gaunt holly
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10 inches doesn't seem like much comie to think

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Okay I'm going to trust Kabinsky that misen is the best stainless pan money can buy

night oxide
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Ron x misen

rigid bone
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Ok now

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I didn't say that

night oxide
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😭

gaunt holly
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Damn the 12 incher doesn't have free or fast shipping

rigid bone
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Misen is good for the price

pliant briar
gaunt holly
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It's $100 for a pan... It better be good lmao

pliant briar
gaunt holly
night oxide
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2 mins or less

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I live a slow life crycat

pliant briar
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reasonable

gaunt holly
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Searched "misen 12 inch stainless gundeals" to search for the lowest price smidog

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Pan is not gun stuff 📝

waxen latch
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I bought the whole all clad set, it was a mistake.

All clad items that you will actually use are the sauce pans or stock, but the frying pans are a pain in the ass if you care about taking care of them. I would rather use a cast iron pan or carbon steel for regular cooking. Also have better surfaces.

So, the large wide sauce pan is good for pasta/sauces. Ton of cooking surface Hardly used it for anything else.

Frying pan, used it only to toss stuff but not a lot of searing or cooking per se. Would not recommend.

Looks good but you dont need all clad unless you really want a good stainless steel item. Wont need anything else.

pliant briar
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embed abuse

rigid bone
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Pan sets are always a bad idea unless you have no pans

night oxide
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Pan fried without a pan

waxen latch
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Does everything

rigid bone
night oxide
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Would it just be fried?

pliant briar
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why the fuck is the handle shaped like this

waxen latch
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yeah, thats why its not seen at many restaurants

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heavy ass handle

gaunt holly
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Misen website > amazon

waxen latch
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and not good for one hand

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the all clad handle SUCKS

stray spire
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Stainless these nuts

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4144 supremacy

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S7 even if you will

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Maybe D2

night oxide
pliant briar
waxen latch
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carbon steel my beloved

stray spire
night oxide
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I got 4 of these in different sizes

rigid bone
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You're makiong a dumb joke

stray spire
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Im talking about steel

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Not trains

stray spire
pliant briar
waxen latch
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like

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it has issues, but you are paying for the materials

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solid still

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its not one of those marshalls or ross brands

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department store pans

rigid bone
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Also for new pan buyers

night oxide
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Would it be a pancake without a pan?

rigid bone
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That little layer means the entire pan, besides the bottom lip, is a singular poorly conductive layer

pliant briar
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ngl, all of these pans look cheap

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are they even suitable for induction stoves?

night oxide
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I prefer mine with rgb

rigid bone
rigid bone
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The pans BB posted are some of the best quality you can get for the money

waxen latch
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yeah this is stupid people money

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dont be me

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get tremontina

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cheaper and from brazil

rigid bone
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or Misen

waxen latch
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is misen ah

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