💬general-discussion

[jolly trench]

Since the dawn of humankind, when our ancestors first discovered the killing power of rock and bone, blood has been spilled in the name of everything: from God to justice to simple, psychotic rage.

[gaunt holly]

This guy is good troll

[jolly trench]

Nah

[uneven basin]

I was assuming the 30 meters vs 100 meters thing was intending to illustrate "picking up speed" but no acceleration is given

[harsh marten]

Is he 😭

[jolly trench]

Yeah and if no acceleration is given the effect is the same

[harsh marten]

Guys, DONT feed the trolls. This has GOTTA be bait

[nocturne steeple]

The AI is so horse sheet, I hear 10 shots and the moment I use the cameras the 4 of them are dead

By a fake surrender tango

[jolly trench]

It’s not

I was under the impression SLS was trolling until a bit ago

[pliant briar]

i assumed it's a bait question

[lucid hornet]

i dont

[pliant briar]

or tricky? not sure how it's called

[jolly trench]

Im assuming SLS is trolling since clearly they don’t know basic physics despite claiming otherwise. The train thing doesn’t make any sense as chadd points out

[uneven basin]

im tired

[hidden hornet]

ai swat is so good, i look away and hear ten shots and then at the bottomk of my screen see "objective failed: rescue all civilians"

[pliant briar]

what doesn't make sense? whatever that isn't explicitly said implies that it's the same in both cases

[gaunt holly]

You don't understand terminal ballistics so I used trains instead hoping you'd understand

[harsh marten]

💀 bait used to be believable

[patent zodiac]

can i only use 1 mod at the same time guys?

[pliant briar]

no

[jolly trench]

Yes. So the argument where SLS is trying to say that the trains do different things makes no sense. The two trains create the same force applied to your body

[uneven basin]

Our psyches are in a walled off state and nobody is going to get anywhere with this, therefore I vote for just dropping it

[pliant briar]

which probably was the point

[nocturne steeple]

BAHAHAHAHA LMAOO

[gaunt holly]

Which was entirely the point

[patent zodiac]

do i just need to rename the mods? wont they be damaged

[harsh marten]

I tried saying that

[jolly trench]

But that makes no sense because SLS was previously arguing that there would be different results so I don’t get why they even made the train argument

[gaunt holly]

However, you are saying 3000fps at 50m does the same damage as 2400fps at 50m is entirely wrong

[uneven basin]

Wanna get coffee?

[nocturne steeple]

This game is just a joke at this point

[modern mesa]

SLS is correct though, bad analogy or not.

[harsh marten]

Hey man sure, time and place?

[jolly trench]

I didn’t say 50m. You have the most interesting ability to just not read what I’m saying.

[uneven basin]

7pm at the place downtown

[jolly trench]

I said at cqb distances which is not 50m

[gaunt holly]

It actually doesn't matter what you said. Replace 50m with "ron distances" 🤡

[pliant briar]

can't tell, my memory can only recall the last 5 seconds

[jolly trench]

I quite explicitly said if it’s across port hokan then it would matter

[fallen sail]

The MP5SD turns rounds subsonic

[uneven basin]

This is true and cool

[harsh marten]

Ooh idk about that place, it made me feel kinda sick last time

[jolly trench]

Yeah I heard that using a suppressor in ready or not concerts rounds to subsonic somewhere

[pliant briar]

so MP5SD is the worst smg?

[jolly trench]

Like equipping it also equips subsonic rounds. Don’t know the truth in this

[fallen sail]

Nah the mp5sd fucks

[fallen sail]

It does not

[jolly trench]

The SD is the best mp5 variant ingame

[patent zodiac]

anyone knows if i can use 2 mods at same time

[green tusk]

Alright move on from ballistics since some people are clearly not going to change their mind

[uneven basin]

It would certainly be a lot better with some more fleshed out stealth mechanics. The mp5sd is incredibly sneaky

[jolly trench]

You can use as many as you want

[gaunt holly]

Omg mr e-man, thank goodness you're here

[fallen sail]

oh my god that profile picture what

[patent zodiac]

but how do i need to rename them?

[gaunt holly]

I fell for the bait and got trolled big time 😭

[jolly trench]

No suppressors are sneaky in RoN. They are effectively cosmetic

[modest fern]

What have you done to your profile

[jolly trench]

There was no bait

[green tusk]

You should try asking for help from a moderator

[green tusk]

It's just the server profile

[gaunt holly]

I will remember this for next time

[jolly trench]

Is that fucking streamerman

[fallen sail]

eman you are looking especially beautiful today

[uneven basin]

Yes that's... What I'm saying. I'd like them to be more than that, especially for the SD

[jolly trench]

Yeah

[pliant briar]

didn't we literally just change topics??

[green tusk]

#🎨ron-screenshots-and-art message

Context

[fallen sail]

💀

man im dead

i didn't know kaminsky is on the line with simple history

[uneven basin]

Lieutenant MilkyToes they call him

[green tusk]

Milky toes at home:

[mortal kindle]

#🎨ron-screenshots-and-art message

[fallen sail]

he looks so fucking scuffed in that artstyle

[uneven basin]

No thank you

[green tusk]

Yes, you will

[uneven basin]

My home is just fine without him

[mortal kindle]

milkytoes is such a weird gamertag

[modest fern]

Besides the eyes and mouth he's pretty on model, besides the jacket

[fallen sail]

bait used to be believable

[modest fern]

Skill issue

[pliant briar]

calling it a gamertag is even more weird

[modest fern]

https://tenor.com/view/ready-or-not-gif-12606389735899844757

[mortal kindle]

is that the trailer?

[modest fern]

Yes

[mortal kindle]

Unauthorized use of force
-50

[uneven basin]

God I wish we could do moves like that

[pliant briar]

false advertising, would never happen in real game

[fallen sail]

the speed up adds so much to the comedy

[modest fern]

Acthaully, he was aware of them when he turned last moment, so it is within ROE

[fallen sail]

Also an actual event where he's still gaming would have been insanely cool

[mortal kindle]

he was looking at the CP monitor which is obviously on the right

[modern mesa]

mr streamman

[fallen sail]

he was ordering cheese pizza

[green tusk]

Judge shouted 1ms before hitting f so ROE is okay

[uneven basin]

Sees swat in the selfie cam
Chat, is this real?
Gets pounded

[mortal kindle]

he has so many cheese pizzas and cod points in his drawer

[pliant briar]

why do people think yelling prevents RoE violations

[fallen sail]

ok 19 dollar cod point card

[lost sandal]

Maybe a stoopid question but is the game on ptt by default or not?

[fallen sail]

who wants it?

[lucid hornet]

they werent listening so you shoot them

[green tusk]

It does, most of the time

[modest fern]

There is only ptt

[mortal kindle]

DEFAULT OR NOT!!!! READY OR NOT MENTIONED!!!!

[modern mesa]

Rules of Yelling (RoY)

[uneven basin]

What's ptt

[lost sandal]

ah alr thanks v-v

[modern mesa]

Push2talk

[pliant briar]

correlation doesn't imply causation

[lost sandal]

What 😭

[uneven basin]

The most cultured way to say "shut up" lmao

[green tusk]

Telling a mod to shut

I approve

[fallen sail]

you have that profile picture so it's fair game

[lucid hornet]

either the sr-16 is extremely inaccurate or im a super shit shot because there is no way a suspect should be dodging automatic gunfire

[green tusk]

True

[pliant briar]

not the intention but whatever

[harsh marten]

Using automatic weapons 😴

[mortal ivy]

Hey guys. Can your SWAT AI teammates kill themselves? Cause I'm on letal obbession, I hear an explosion and one of my guys is dead but the rest are perfectly fine.

[fallen sail]

Only offscreen 💀

[lucid hornet]

no, he died because of a trap

[gaunt holly]

Using automatic is the problem here

[mortal ivy]

WHAT TRAP???? THE TRAP FROM ABOVE WHERE WE WERE STANDING????

[mortal ivy]

Really?

[uneven basin]

If you stop looking at your swat AI for 2 minutes they spontaneously combust

It's based on irl tactics

[fallen sail]

Not really

[harsh marten]

Exactly

[lucid hornet]

i dont have a very fast trigger finger, so i prefer being able to send shots down range without having to lift my finger

[mortal ivy]

Also nobody is injured so it physically COULDN'T be a trap I don't think!

[fallen sail]

According to the commander showcase the devs wanted to imply that officers can take their own lives but it's never shown anywhere in the game in any capacity whatsoever

[uneven basin]

Oh i thought if their stress got high enough they'd do it offscreen. Never tried it tho

[odd mulch]

Maybe that's what happens if you let them work past their crisis stress level

[fallen sail]

no they just resign lmao

[mortal ivy]

Well I think mine just took theirs which is weird since they aren't even that stressed.

[odd mulch]

resign and then off themselves, idk why do u want them to off themselves

[gaunt holly]

Don't need to be fast. Just two mouse clicks are you're good

[uneven basin]

Consequencessssss 👀

[fallen sail]

I dunno any slight reason to give a shit about your body double meatshields might help

[odd mulch]

I care about them by letting them go talk to the therapist eat donuts and make sure they get home alive

Also coffee breaks are mandatory

[fallen sail]

don't speak now you might come up with actual good ideas for commander

[uneven basin]

I'm fairly certain they will shoot quicker and miss more with higher stress

[odd mulch]

I mean, in my ideal world, the stress system would be reworked a little bit.

As in, not as often I gotta swap my guys out so I can actually have more chances to utilize their perks

Or, let the stress system stay but let them have their perks immediately

[fallen sail]

The stress system is almost non existnant if you go out of your way to take a few suspects alive

outside of the forced decreases that certain levels give

[gaunt holly]

There should be a currency mechanic for strategic coffee time

[uneven basin]

It would be cool if there were some training maps with blue guns that you could use to relieve officer stress without risking them dying replaying earlier missions

[odd mulch]

Honesltly in my runs we killed most of the suspects lol

[fallen sail]

dude straight up

[fallen sail]

there's your problem

[odd mulch]

They dont like to give up, and my officers shoot right away lol

[uneven basin]

Always pack a taser. Taser like two or three guys and you're golden

[odd mulch]

The game feels like it forces you to flash every room sometimes, but I know that isnt realistic so I try not to do that

[fallen sail]

so trigger them, back up and flash if they're hostile

[uneven basin]

Ooh there's my next challenge run

[fallen sail]

there's also the dumbass stress system which dictates that if the first suspect is violent the rest will be too

[uneven basin]

My current challenge is iron mode with zero armor

[odd mulch]

I only flashed rooms if I felt like I had no choice, at most I'd use 2 flashbangs a mission because real life SWAT aren't just banging every single room

I also carried 1 stinger and used that if I don't see any hostages and just suspects

[uneven basin]

Zero grenades will be my next challenge

[pliant briar]

please don't harass devs they are on a holiday break

[fallen sail]

hire me profesionally to do it, i've done it last holiday too

[pliant briar]

shhh, 1.0 just launched right before christmas

they need to have some free time now

[odd mulch]

Zero grenades and u gotta get the challenge to not get any officers lost during ur run too

[uneven basin]

Bet

[odd mulch]

Which honestly, it isnt that hard. Just run 2 shields in ur squad

[fallen sail]

they need some free time as they release the most half-assed, incomplete, gamebreaking update ever conceived in the game's history

[lucid hornet]

can 5.56 not pen doors?

[fallen sail]

It can

[uneven basin]

Im not sure about metal doors

[lucid hornet]

it does not feel like it pens anything, any bullet caliber for that matter

[fallen sail]

Well that's just not true

I've had civilians killed crossmap on brisa through walls using 7.62

[uneven basin]

I shot my friend through a door yesterday so I'm sure it works kek

Just a pistol too

[pliant briar]

don't forget that they "rigorously" tested it

[fallen sail]

you have no clue how sad that statement is

[pliant briar]

it works on my machine

[fallen sail]

"does the game launch?" Yes

👍

[green tusk]

[pliant briar]

maybe?

[uneven basin]

As a coder it hurts my soul how often it doesn't work on the other guy's machine

[fallen sail]

I didn't experience the bugs you're talking about

[pliant briar]

something something containerization

[uneven basin]

It's like cross platform but the opposite 😭

[pliant briar]

not really viable with "consumer" software but you get the point

[uneven basin]

I thought venv was enough but nooooo

Turns out the packages are fundamentally incompatible for different distros

Sob

[pliant briar]

just making console apps was a pain in the ass, so can't imagine an actual game

compatibility wise^

[uneven basin]

I took one look at the android sdk and like pissed myself with fear and said no thanks

I'll do webdev

And then the javascript-pocalypse happened

[pliant briar]

im too stupid for frontend

[uneven basin]

I'm smart enough to avoid it

[pliant briar]

too bad most modern frameworks are both

even if it's mostly SSR

[uneven basin]

I hardcoded an ajax request today in vanilla javascript because I'd sooner do that than let those frameworks out of Pandora's docker container

[fickle crescent]

Hi, what is a good assault rifle? Im new so I just use something but I wonder what are yalls fav guns so I can try them out :D

[pliant briar]

but i mean with all the abstraction, ui libs and so on it's not that bad

[odd mulch]

the dm4pdw is one of my favorites

[fickle crescent]

Ill try it thanks!

[uneven basin]

ARN-180 is very popular as well. A little longer but less recoil

[pliant briar]

g36c is the best 5.56

objectively

[fickle crescent]

Ill try them :)

[odd mulch]

F90 gets slept on because its a bullpup

[pliant briar]

exactly

[uneven basin]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=aWfYxg-Ypm4

[odd mulch]

But its arguably one of the better guns in the game

[gaunt holly]

Sr16. It's the only gun you'll ever need to use

[pliant briar]

trpc mentioned not even a minute in? is it really a javascript video?

[uneven basin]

I don't even know wtf that means 😭

I have a cs degree

[mortal kindle]

who would win
5 swat officers one of them being a mkultra psyop plant
vs.
tier 1 operators

[uneven basin]

MilkyToes

[pliant briar]

typed rpc

[pliant briar]

as in you get type hints on the frontend magically

[pliant briar]

it's all connected

[mortal kindle]

WHO HERE UNDERSTANDS READY OR NOT LORE

[uneven basin]

I understood the t it's the rpc i don't know lmao

[pliant briar]

oh, remote process call

[uneven basin]

Ohhhh

[gaunt holly]

Not much lore to it. Bad guys in town getting arrested is more or less the theme

[pliant briar]

pretty vague term and doesn't always mean that there is a remote process involved

[uneven basin]

.... Facepalm

[mortal kindle]

WHO HERE UNDERSTANDS JUDGEMENT THEORY

[compact dawn]

I don’t have enough time or autism in me to piece it together

[pliant briar]

because generally rpc implies a local context

[gaunt holly]

I have time and autism and still can't piece it together

[compact dawn]

I get my lore from YouTube videos

[compact dawn]

Is this in connection to tarot cards

[odd mulch]

i mean there's the lore in the corruption and MKULTRA mentions

[pliant briar]

~~...or not, because it's a kitchen sink term ~~ turns out it's actually not and the term makes perfect sense

[mortal kindle]

its just mkultra but on crack

[compact dawn]

Oh that’s lame

[uneven basin]

Debanco is probably behind everything

[mortal kindle]

no its not!! it leads into the sepulchre and the MLA

it explains lethal obsession and gives RoN So much depth!!

[compact dawn]

Okay okay let me watch the video on it, but I will say I love just sitting in the map and looking at all of the detail in the maps

They are really good at environmental storytelling and I like that

[uneven basin]

I don't really get it and I wish someone would walk me through all the maps and explain it to me

The only map I feel like I really understand is Valley of the Dolls. And maybe the gas station

[abstract summit]

I got hit in the ballistic face mask twice by 9mm💀💀💀

Used all my luck

[gaunt holly]

What's the best map for lore?

[mortal kindle]

i think that every ready or not map having some sort of mention of cheese pizzas isnt the best idea to think about the maps

[pliant briar]

lobby

[odd mulch]

lethal obsession 100% lol there's a lot of information tied into it and the fact that Judge gets mentioned in one of the audio clips during the mission

[compact dawn]

I need to play the game more to get into the lore properly

[odd mulch]

honestly past that there isnt a whole lot of lore, it's a lot of the city of Los Suenos being in a state of decay, and corruption specifically in FISA

[mortal kindle]

all of them

[mortal kindle]

a state of decay is an understatement

as a resident of los suenos myself i feel like you guys are underselling the impact

that was the trash riots

[gaunt holly]

Interesting. I haven't paid any attention to any of the detail in that map

Didn't know there were easter eggs

[pliant briar]

based

[odd mulch]

Definitely go back, and listen to each of the audio clips you find, and read the writings available

[compact dawn]

Everyone is itching for cash to survive and some end up in the world of crime

[odd mulch]

OR just go watch a video on it

[odd mulch]

The trash riots, which led to businesses closing. The governor cutting veteran benefits, which leads to terrorism. You had the original department which if you didnt notice, it was literally an old subway re-fashioned into a police department

Another one that isn't recognized enough is BlueFuel or w/e its called having a crisis of their fuel sources drying up

[pallid pagoda]

Is there a way to store the audio logs?

[odd mulch]

No not really

[mortal kindle]

i know right!! how can our senator cut veteran benefits without atleast considering that he should also cut police funding to ATLEAST try to stop the trash riots, in my personal opinion (i live over at park homes boulevard) the trash riots here are getting bad!

[uneven basin]

How did you learn about the trash riots? I have 1k hours in this game and never heard of it

[mortal kindle]

its in 213 park homes mission

[odd mulch]

lol, cut police funding is funny.

[uneven basin]

Like the evidence from it? Or...

[mortal kindle]

no like theres a protest sign

[pallid pagoda]

4 morbillion dollars to the police department

[idle widget]

when i complete a mission it shows th rank but not the next mission help me

[mortal kindle]

its probably unresolved

[idle widget]

wdym

its resolved i have a on it

[odd mulch]

It's vaguely mentioned throughout all the missions, the main issue why a lot of the locations are filled with trash, why all the dumpsters are full, is because nobody is there to pick up the trash

[uneven basin]

I want to start noticing these things

[harsh marten]

There’s also trash piling up in nearly every single mission

[idle widget]

yesterday i played it sand then today i wanted to play next mission but isnt showing

[harsh marten]

Multiple news articles across different missions

[mortal kindle]

you have to take these thigns in

to really enjoy ready or not take a moment, stop, and look at the enviroment

[odd mulch]

It's all easy to miss, the storytelling in Ready or Not is purely environmental so it's easy to miss

[pallid pagoda]

Real winter of discontent vibes

[compact dawn]

Rats from trash overfill chewing into server wires on the datacenter mission is very funny to me

[uneven basin]

Is rhat real

[compact dawn]

Like how mindjolt is literally decaying and seeking any life support

[odd mulch]

Yes, there's a note on the mission that talks about it

[modest fern]

Winter? Forever Winter?

https://tenor.com/view/x-i-i-k-xiik-the-forever-winter-the-forever-winter-flying-tank-flying-tank-gif-2095466132765299483

[gaunt holly]

Looks good

[pliant briar]

is that arma?

[pallid pagoda]

Nah forever winter

[mortal kindle]

yeah one of the reasons mindjot is going out of business

[compact dawn]

Dude I bought that game as well

[odd mulch]

on top of them spending a lot of their funds on heavily armed guards 😂

[pallid pagoda]

I’m waiting for it to be a bit better

[compact dawn]

Same it is cool and all but I am waiting on it to be better

[pliant briar]

me rn

[compact dawn]

Hopefully by summer it improves

[modest fern]

I love the art direction, now i understand why some people get such a "crush" on grimdark shit

[mortal kindle]

be mindjot
sewer rats chewing on the cord
top distributor of CP in los suenos *besides cord chat
spend all ur money on guards

[pliant briar]

did i just witness someone breaking ToS?

[wintry igloo]

Never going into a gun store to “ look around “ with my dad again

[pallid pagoda]

Mind jolt is my favourite cyberpunk distributor

[wintry igloo]

1,539$ down the drain

[pallid pagoda]

Bro bought one round of 5.7

[mortal kindle]

Entry team to @long summit, OFFICER DOWN, REQUESTING IMMEDIATE BAN!!

[wintry igloo]

Fr tho

[compact dawn]

Should have never invested in cod points

[gaunt holly]

Should have invested on a 20 incher

[mortal kindle]

ready or not is never beating the CP Allegations

[compact dawn]

https://tenor.com/view/ready-or-not-gif-12606389735899844757

[odd mulch]

i really wish we could really sneak up on him like that, that'd be so funny. This game needs more hands-on animations for suspects/hostages in general

Like bro when a suspect gives me a hard time getting down on their own let me yeet their ass to the ground

[mortal kindle]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-fall-epic-embed-fail-fail-funny-gif-21341768

[uneven basin]

I need you two to dm me so we can hop into a game and yall can show me this stuff

It's interesting and I've never seen it ingame so I've kinda assumed the community was just making stuff up

[mortal kindle]

you want ME to play ready or not with YOU?

it would be an honor

[modern mesa]

Legit.

A tackle anim.

[mortal kindle]

when were you able to actually sneak up on someone in ready or not?

[modern mesa]

I've done it once.

Just shot them from behind.

[gaunt holly]

Need some proper beat down mechanics

[modern mesa]

But controlling suspects and getting them arrested would make gameplay flow better instead of standing and shouting for 10 seconds.

[gaunt holly]

Then you'll just have S Rank heros playing UFC by completing missions by grapple only

[modern mesa]

Hell yeah.

Grapple%

[uneven basin]

Pog

[ornate dawn]

opinion on swiss cheese

i think its good

[sick flume]

how to cancel arrest animation? was this not implemented yet?

[half stratus]

A grappling hook in Ron would be sick

Let me rappel up a building and kick in a window to breach r6s style

[lost sandal]

pub lobbies are so confusing to me 😭

[modern mesa]

Different grapple.

Grapple as in cuddle.

[half stratus]

I'm aware but it would be cool

[half stratus]

Wait I thought he meant grapple as in trying to bodyslam someone

[modern mesa]

Grappling hook like rappeling would be a whole new system and difficult to work, then imagine trying to fit that into old maps that weren't intended for it.

RON2 feature.

[odd mulch]

give us both

[gaunt holly]

Need 20 incher first

[swift hull]

In “Ready or Not,” how do the non-lethal options work with the way suspects decide to fight or surrender? Like, does it mess up the flow of a breach if the AI doesn’t act how you expect?

[gaunt holly]

Flow should be the same regardless of how suspects react. Suspect behavior should be treated as always unpredictable

[swift hull]

If the flow stays steady no matter what suspects do, does that mean planning doesn’t matter as much? Or is it that the unpredictability itself becomes part of the plan, like… planning for no plan at all?

[gaunt holly]

The thing is you can never predict how a suspect will react when you breach a room. Just breach as you normally do and handle the suspects accordingly when you get into the room

[pulsar jungle]

are there plans for pvp

[swift hull]

But if the breach is always the same, wouldn’t the suspect’s unpredictable reaction actually be predictable in its unpredictability? Or does reacting to how they react mean the breach itself wasn’t as planned as it seemed?

[mortal kindle]

i love to cuddle the cp distributor amos voll with 5.56

unauthorized use of force
-50

unauthorized use of deadly force
-100

[gaunt holly]

You can predict all you want, but the results are never guaranteed. So the breach is always the same no matter what. It's how you read and handle the room once you breach and make entry

[swift hull]

So if the breach is constant but the handling changes, isn’t the breach itself part of the room’s unpredictability? Or is the breach like… separate from the chaos, just a starting point, and the real unpredictability doesn’t exist until after you’re already in?

[gaunt holly]

The unpredictably comes after you enter. Botching an entry from a breach is how you get you and your team killed

[swift hull]

So then, is the breach less about getting in and more about setting the stage for how you’ll survive what happens next? Like, does the success of the breach even matter if the chaos afterward is where everything goes wrong anyway?

[gaunt holly]

No, the breach is always the same

[swift hull]

If the breach is always the same, does that make it more like a formality? Like, is the real decision-making only after the breach, or is sticking to the same breach part of what keeps the chaos manageable?

[pliant briar]

you can get some intel by mirroring the door

or optimize the positioning if you know the room's layout

[swift hull]

If the mirror gun shows what’s behind the door, does that mean it’s actually seeing the future of the breach, or is it just letting you borrow someone else’s perspective who’s already there? And if the mirror shows too much, does it start to make you second-guess the plan, like it’s creating chaos before you even open the door?

[swift hull]

Just asking a question

Sorry

[modern mesa]

[pliant briar]

the only future i'm sure of is that you or your gun will get stuck in that door

[gaunt holly]

Yes, somewhat of a formality. A proper breach will cover all/most ground inside a room as long as everyone is doing their job

[pliant briar]

and that suspects are predicable (they don't give a single fuck and will shoot you at sight because reasons)

[green tusk]

https://tenor.com/view/philip-labes-lucifer-weird-thing-to-ask-gif-18223335

[pliant briar]

unless it's the first suspect

[swift hull]

So, if the breach is a formality, does that mean the mirror gun is kind of like a cheat sheet for the chaos ahead, helping you get a head start on figuring out who’s doing what in there? Or does it just add more pressure, knowing you’ve got a glimpse but still have to handle it all on the fly? Sorry I’m new to this game

[modern mesa]

Why would knowing more about the room add more pressure?

It becomes a known room.

[gaunt holly]

Yeah, mirror gun takes away the surprise. Sort of like a cheat sheet like you said

[swift hull]

If you know more, doesn’t it kind of raise the stakes? Like, you’ve got this extra info, but it also means there’s more you could mess up. It’s like you’re supposed to be prepared, but knowing too much can make it harder to just act without overthinking.

[pliant briar]

in ron every rooms becomes known after like 3 replays

[gaunt holly]

But using mirror gun should not change how you breach

[glass moat]

better to know a guy's there aiming at the doorway you're going through then to not know you know?

[agile merlin]

my discovery of space shanties has me acting unwise

[modern mesa]

Ok, so you have defined things to do, so you don't get overwhelmed. Are you getting overwhelmed?

[agile merlin]

ok here's what you do

[swift hull]

Another question. If a stinger goes off and you’re not sure if it’s your team or the suspects getting hit, does that make the stinger more of a puzzle than a tool? Or does timing the throw just become an art of hoping the right people get shocked while everyone else stays in the moment?

[pliant briar]

have you discovered the expanse yet?

[agile merlin]

find a gun you like, use that and then click play and just figure everything out from there

[runic aspen]

for real thats why i never use it.

[agile merlin]

no but I've pulled the curtain and parted the veil

[pliant briar]

skill issue

[agile merlin]

I mean I don't see an issue with using it. If the whole point is to minimize casualities on a breach, then knowing what's behind the door can help minimize that

suprises create casualities and casualities are bad

[gaunt holly]

It's also a game. And if a tool/mechanic makes the game less fun then I won't use it

[swift hull]

Bump

[pliant briar]

i see, easier == less fun

but harder (more fails and restarts) = more fun

[agile merlin]

I just like smooth breaches

they make my little heart tingle <3

[swift hull]

When you throw a stinger, does it matter more where it lands or when it lands, or is it the sound it makes that really determines whether the plan stays on track?

[gaunt holly]

Can have smooth breaches without mirror gun too

[agile merlin]

to be fair I have literally just been using my primary lately

whatever my primary is + 13 extra magazines

[pliant briar]

stinger launches projectiles, sound is largely irrelevant

[swift hull]

If the stinger launches projectiles, does that mean the angle of launch is more important than where the projectiles land, or does it just all come down to how much chaos you can introduce with one well-placed toss?

[agile merlin]

if you're looking for something like that then use flashbangs

[gaunt holly]

3 rifle mags and 10 flashbangs is how I do every mission lol

[odd mulch]

flash every door i see

[agile merlin]

nah you gotta go 13 mags

[gaunt holly]

I rarely use up one mag tho

[agile merlin]

I see we have very different playstyles

[pliant briar]

the optimum is to maximize AoE

[agile merlin]

im not too keen on keeping as many suspects alive as possible

[gaunt holly]

Same

I just use less bullets

[pliant briar]

you need at most exactly 3 bullets to permanently off a suspect

[agile merlin]

yeah well I get to use full auto more without having to worry about running out of ammo

[gaunt holly]

Full auto 🤢

[odd mulch]

I try and flash as little rooms as possible, while still getting suspects to surrender, because irl SWAT isnt gonna carry 1000 flashbangs

[swift hull]

If AoE is the thing, does that mean the wider it goes, the more it doesn’t matter where it lands, or is it just about catching the right bits without catching too much at once?

[pliant briar]

assuming you use a proper gun and not a nerf gun (any smg or pistol)

[agile merlin]

M14 supremacy

[odd mulch]

m14 had me one tapping ppl consistently

[agile merlin]

yeah its .308

[pliant briar]

762x51 you mean?

[agile merlin]

same deal

[odd mulch]

Just don’t full auto the m14

[gaunt holly]

Sr16 supremacy

[agile merlin]

I just said .308 because the M14 is a US weapon and NATO's "7.62" is .308

[odd mulch]

My favorite gun to use is still the dm4pdw

[agile merlin]

ok not gonna lie i dont know what it is but the sr16 is cracked for no reason

[gaunt holly]

There's no reason not to use it. I don't use any other gun ever

[odd mulch]

Boring

[pliant briar]

works exactly as any other 5.56, only worse

[agile merlin]

for me if im not using full cartridges like .308 or 7.62 im using the SR-16

[gaunt holly]

The guns don't make the game fun. They're all the same more or less anyways

[odd mulch]

Shotgun literally blows peoples heads off

[pliant briar]

it doesn't though

[agile merlin]

if it doesn't they need to add that

[odd mulch]

It does lol

[agile merlin]

12 gauge slug vs skull

[gaunt holly]

They just need to add a 20 incher next. I enjoy handling that extra length

[agile merlin]

M16A4

[pliant briar]

is there any mentally sane person that can confirm this?

[gaunt holly]

This tbh

[hidden hornet]

my skull could handle 12 gauge im built different

[rough kernel]

SR16 is the best

[gaunt holly]

This tbh

[placid violet]

fuck the hospital map... been running for 30 mins cant do ts no more

[agile merlin]

god im so glad I did that map in a single try

[pliant briar]

skill issue is tough

[green tusk]

You won't find any of that here

[gaunt holly]

This tbh

[gaunt holly]

This tbh

[odd mulch]

I’ve both seen it happen for myself and watched a video of a guy ranking all the shotguns in the game and multiple times he was blowing limbs off, I’ve seen somebody blow the arms and legs off the hostage in the headquarters

[pliant briar]

limbs yes, heads no

[agile merlin]

if my 12 gauge slug connects with a suspect's head and I can still actively view his head then they didn't add 12 gauge correctly

[odd mulch]

I’ve seen head too

[placid violet]

how ive done all 3 floors twice

[odd mulch]

I’ve seen the head come off and I’ve seen somebody shoot a guys head and his skull caved in

[pliant briar]

only twice?

[agile merlin]

okay the hospital map is NOT that hard

[rough kernel]

Yeah the hospital map is really not that hard

[agile merlin]

the only map I struggled on for some reason is greased palms

[placid violet]

its not hard i just cant find the last civ

[agile merlin]

it took me equipping a shield to beat that map

[abstract summit]

Yall ever try everclear?

[gaunt holly]

Hospital maps seems hard bc it's very long. Like running a marathon. Just need to survive until the end lol

[pliant briar]

it's a honeypot for suspect ai behaviors

[rough kernel]

Probably cause of all the open areas and angles

[placid violet]

did i say i found it hard??? i cant find the last civ and last shooter. why tf cant my ai just do a search after its all been cleared

[pliant briar]

open areas, lots of pixel peaks

[gaunt holly]

Hardest map was carriers 1.0 launch pre-patch

[pliant briar]

never completed it so might be true

[jolly trench]

i want to see prescott getting freaky with judge

[odd mulch]

Yeah the farm map was stupid hard before 1.0 especially if you did it on raid because it had a lot of extra enemies lol

[agile merlin]

is the supporters edition stuff still locked behind supporters edition

[pliant briar]

or we just got better at the game

[jolly trench]

yuh

[pliant briar]

kinda the point

[agile merlin]

spends $70 on support edition
unlock everything mod

[jolly trench]

unlock mods dont give support edition things

[pliant briar]

unlock everything doesn't unlock everything

[modest fern]

(Not how that mod works)

[jolly trench]

they just give a save that has all the stuff unlocked

[odd mulch]

The unlock everything mod said it doesn’t and will never give the supporter edition items

[agile merlin]

I don't know how that mod works chat

my purchase is safe

[pliant briar]

that's not what they do

[jolly trench]

there IS a way to get supporter edition for free but i wont say

[placid violet]

just to confirm. Floor one is one section. floor 2 is one section. floor 3 is 2 sections with a hallway connecting them on hospital map? ive opened every door yet im missing a shooter and siv???

[agile merlin]

isnt there a basement

[rough kernel]

Have you checked the morgue

[odd mulch]

There is no basement

[pliant briar]

you can't tell that secret (which is in fact extremely known)

[jolly trench]

im sure it is, although there might be two secrets. not sure we have the same one

[placid violet]

where is that

[pliant briar]

if you aren't talking about a mod, we are

[agile merlin]

fyi if you're not careful in the morgue it'll get you

[placid violet]

@rough kernel where is morgue pls lol

[somber prism]

John ready or not is finally back

[agile merlin]

so be careful of that

[jolly trench]

as in a mod that adds supporter edition cosmetics? im not talking about that

[odd mulch]

2nd floor if I remember I don’t remember off rip which building

I want to say the one with the kitchen

[somber prism]

You mean a friend buys it for you?

[jolly trench]

........no. you cant purchase it anymore

[somber prism]

Godamnit

[odd mulch]

There’s also an ingame map on your tablet

[rough kernel]

Its been a second since ive done the map but it I think its the lowest accessible floor in the far building, its usually where the suspect is

[somber prism]

Why are you gatekeeping

[jolly trench]

i should probably stop talking about it, because theres a reason i didnt elaborate. its probably not allowed to talk about it

[jolly trench]

vro im not gatekeeping shit

[agile merlin]

unless you paid the $70 for the supporters edition ur not getting it

[jolly trench]

ya

[agile merlin]

somebody patch that exploit NOW

[jolly trench]

im not gatekeeping anything

[somber prism]

What

[agile merlin]

elaborate further

[placid violet]

chat is there a morgue on hospital map?

[agile merlin]

yes

[somber prism]

Yes

[pliant briar]

one would say that edging such information is recommended

[jolly trench]

i dont feel like getting possibly banned permanently

[odd mulch]

Yes there’s a map on your tablet

[somber prism]

If you DM it?

[agile merlin]

nah ur not getting that shit for free

[jolly trench]

ill just hold it in. any more edging is probably not gonna be ok

[agile merlin]

cough up that $70 right now

[somber prism]

I won't snitch 🥺🥺

[jolly trench]

nah

[somber prism]

Plug

[jolly trench]

i dont even know if it works, it does in other situations but devs mightve patched it

i havent used it

[somber prism]

I guess the easiest way is just download a mod that lets you get SE stuff for free

[jolly trench]

because i dont give a fuck if i have supporter edition FDE nvgs or not

[odd mulch]

You should of been a real one and got the supporters edition

[agile merlin]

be like me, be a real one

[jolly trench]

i didnt have the game until 1.0

[agile merlin]

get the supporters edition

[gaunt holly]

Moderators!

[jolly trench]

erm, moderators 🤓

[odd mulch]

And the supporters edition was for people who supported the game even in its infancy

[pliant briar]

ban this user for mentioning mods

[somber prism]

Bring back alabama, cowboy and paz

[odd mulch]

It isn’t fair for them to let everyone else get it now

[jolly trench]

i mean kinda... its just a more expensive pack that only was available during beta

[gaunt holly]

That's not happening. If you didn't already know, I happen to be best friends with all of the moderators 💅

[odd mulch]

Yes but by the name it’s for people who supported the game you can’t just bring it back now

[agile merlin]

I bought the game to see if I liked it and then I saw the cool camo gear and bought the supporters edition for it

[pliant briar]

ready or not was never in beta

[jolly trench]

i honestly dont give a fuck about fairness. i dont want supporter edition but i dont think its necessarily wrong for other people to be able to give void MORE money

[jolly trench]

early access same shit pedant

[pliant briar]

actually no

[agile merlin]

erm ackhually

they're not the SAME 😡

[jolly trench]

i can use it interchangably. also it was in beta just not publicly

[pliant briar]

beta is when all features are complete and only bug fixes are being made

[placid violet]

HOLY FUCK UR RIGHT. DUDE HOW DID I NOT SEE THIS EARLIER. I WENT TO THE GROUND FLOOR 3 TIMES AND MISSED ALLAT OFF. HOWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW

[odd mulch]

Early access was also vastly different from the game we have now it’s practically a beta compared to what we have now, it even had a multiplayer mode where you went against one another

[pliant briar]

meaning ready or not was in alpha

[jolly trench]

yup

[gaunt holly]

Ready or not was never ready. But we're still gaming

[somber prism]

Why isn't ready or not a sigma now

[gaunt holly]

Gamers gonna game

[rough kernel]

Lmao, glad you found it!

[agile merlin]

🔥 feature

[jolly trench]

i have hope pvp comes back eventually

signs seem to point to yes but in the very not near future

[placid violet]

this has got to be the biggest map right? no other map is bigger than this

hospital is a fucking maze

[agile merlin]

actually I dont think I started playing during that, but I do remember early access

[somber prism]

The closest we have to a tactical pvp is zero hour

[agile merlin]

I do remember that feature though which is weird

[jolly trench]

this is just... wrong

[pliant briar]

do you remember early early access though?

[jolly trench]

rephrase that as swat pvp not tactical pvp

[agile merlin]

idk

[jolly trench]

there are plenty of tactical pvp games

[gaunt holly]

We had some pvp capabilities in the old shoot house but they took that away

[rough kernel]

There are bigger maps, the last mission is very large and some of the DLC missions are large as well. The Hospital feels larger because of how its built

[somber prism]

Ground branch?

Oh, arma

[jolly trench]

i mean sure but there are also tactical pvp games that DONT suck

sandstorm could be considered one, also arma, tarkov, lots of stuff

[somber prism]

Sandstorm still feels rather arcadey

[pliant briar]

how does tarkov not suck

[jolly trench]

for sure but its still a tactical shooter

[agile merlin]

I got the first arrest achievement on july 15th, 2022 so idk when that was

[gaunt holly]

Tarkov sucks and is very arcade

[pliant briar]

it's literally tarkov

[gaunt holly]

Tarkov in fact sucks a lot

[jolly trench]

tarkov sucks but it doesnt suck in the way ground branch sucks

[somber prism]

But i still love sandstorm

[jolly trench]

also tarkov is NOT arcade what are you on

[placid violet]

rlly? Port hokan always feels small to me. hospital is massive maybe just like u said tho its built odd and has so many rooms. defo the hardest map imo

[gaunt holly]

Tarkov could also be so good, but it's not

[pliant briar]

say what you want, but i prefer the gunplay of ground branch

[odd mulch]

I wouldn’t call tarkov an arcade shooter lol, but it does suck

[agile merlin]

old rust gunplay my beloved

[jolly trench]

ground branch has good gunplay. this is correct. but it is a shit game. it has no "gameplay". it is just another early access scam with a good gun system and no gameplay

[somber prism]

What about squad?

[jolly trench]

squad too

[odd mulch]

I’m actually friends with somebody who works for the company that developed squad

[agile merlin]

Six Days in Fallujah

[pliant briar]

squad is only good if you play on decent servers or just win a lottery

[odd mulch]

He worked on their VR version of helldivers lol

[jolly trench]

but yeah, ground branch is a shit early access scam. i refunded it.

[somber prism]

Same

[jolly trench]

played it a year and a half ago, from what i hear it has barely changed. and having mod support is not an excuse for a "good game"

[agile merlin]

has anyone played six days in fallujah? i've though about getting it but im not sure

[pliant briar]

all things considered ron is more scam than ground branch is

[odd mulch]

Ready or not is the only tactical game I truly enjoy because the law enforcement aesthetic is something I enjoy

[somber prism]

They added AI teammates now, and the enemy AI is just as annoying as RON

[gaunt holly]

Ya I guess. With the new changes to movement, it does seem a little better. But the game still sucks

[rough kernel]

Same, cause every other game wants to be some spec ops military unit. This ones unique

[jolly trench]

not really. RoN still has consistent developement meanwhile ground branch has barely any updates and is still in early access. and it has no gameplay. just shitty gamemodes and a good gun system.

[odd mulch]

I wouldn’t call RoN a scam, it’s very similar gameplay wise to SWAT 4 just modernized and still has some stuff to add

[jolly trench]

ready or not is a developed product

ground branch is an early access scam

and ready or not has consistent dev briefings

[pliant briar]

does ron genuinely feel developed to you?

[odd mulch]

And it was advertised as a modern version of SWAT 4 so it can’t be a scam if it at least gives the same gameplay loop

[somber prism]

Ground branch just isn't worth playing when you play alone

[gaunt holly]

Ground branch is like playing dress up with barbie dolls, but with guns

[low basin]

Yes but needs some work

[jolly trench]

as much as i know and have heard, it was better in early access. but if you ignore what it was in EA, 1.0 is a developed game

[pliant briar]

i wouldn't either, it's just if you were to call one of them a scam, ron deserves it a bit more

[odd mulch]

What part of it doesn’t feel developed? AI is the only thing I can point to and the issues with the game aren’t game breaking

[jolly trench]

yup. with no gameplay

[somber prism]

Pretty much ready or not as well, considering how theres even more customization options for the character

[odd mulch]

I still disagree, it matches everything it was advertising

[jolly trench]

i mean if we talk about character customization then sandstorm takes the cake easily

[gaunt holly]

The customization in ron is quite limited. I wouldn't call it that

[jolly trench]

yeah

[somber prism]

True, but it sucks how confusing sandstorms customization system is

[jolly trench]

sandstorm has probably the best character customization and ground branch the best weapon customization. but the thing is, whats a good gun system if theres hardly a game to play

[jolly trench]

it isnt really. what confuses you

[odd mulch]

I enjoy the limited customization I don’t need to see blue haired officers in my multiplayer games

[jolly trench]

dude what?

[odd mulch]

I said what I said

[jolly trench]

customization doesnt mean cod bundles

[pliant briar]

just reading the description of the game on steam shows you a couple of things that are nothing compared to what they say

[jolly trench]

you know that right

[somber prism]

How you need to pay in game currency for each variation of a jacket and shirt of some sort

[gaunt holly]

Same. It's refreshing to just focus on the gameplay rather than all the flashy doodads

[jolly trench]

oh yeah. i really wish that buying a shirt unlocked the rolled variant. but oh well

[somber prism]

Yeah

[swift hull]

Hey so if you’re in a room with an obstructed view of a target, and the door to your left has a red light indicating it’s locked, but the one in front of you is open but not secured, what’s your next move to ensure you’re in control of the situation, even though you haven’t cleared the hallway yet?

[odd mulch]

How many times does a game add a lot of customization and NOT end up adding something stupid?

[gaunt holly]

Probably why my fave gun in ron is the sr16. It's simply the most boring gun in the game, but it works

[jolly trench]

or that you could put on a bunch of unpurchased stuff and see what it all looks like combined before buying instead of one thing

[low basin]

can I use mods if they was uploaded after the home invasion DLC

[jolly trench]

that makes no sense. sandstorm has a ton of customization and only has one stupid bundle

[jolly trench]

what kind of question is that.....

i dont mean to be rude but think for a sec

[odd mulch]

and you said part of my problem there, bundles, we don't need those.

[swift hull]

Home MIDvasion

[agile merlin]

can I use mods if they were uploaded during early access?

[low basin]

Well some of my mods are from November and they still work

[agile merlin]

[jolly trench]

you didnt specify that. also sandstorm bundles are fine. unlike cod where each skin costs $20, a sandstorm bundle costs $2. seems pretty fair and they all fit the style of the game and dont make it cartoonish and dumb

[placid violet]

facts its very shit ngl. concept is cool but graphics and feel is shit

[jolly trench]

and there is still tons of options for free

[odd mulch]

what part of the description doesn't match what we have now?

[placid violet]

nah thats good. its a milsim u cant play it like COD

[swift hull]

Has anyone been able to get the Skyrim script extender to work on RON?

[jolly trench]

i dont care about graphics after a certain point. GB graphics are fine but everything else like actual gameplay is shit

[agile merlin]

PULL THE CURTAIN, PART THE VEIL
TO PEER AT THE ABYSS
THE SOLAR RAILS ARE OPEN SAILS
THE WINDS THROUGH NOTHINGNESS

[pliant briar]

well, just to be sure i checked the description in english and its nothing like the one in my language

[odd mulch]

Probably bad translation then because I was about to say, I don't see a single thing that we can't do ingame lol

[pliant briar]

no, it's completely different, like severely outdated, pre 1.0

[odd mulch]

Ah, they should probably get that changed then lol

[pliant briar]

the one in english is actually good

[placid violet]

Played it once and got friends who have it. they say it’s good but not something they would playa lot. It’s realistic but arcade at the same time. Very hard too. Think back to RoN when AI were overpowered. That game is crazy unforgiving. It’s one of those you literally won’t be able to play solo tbh unless you’re really good and I mean really good. And if the AI weren’t already rlly good you’ll get sniped and lit up with artillery

[pliant briar]

the one in polish says that the game is realism-first, has good penetration and armor model, that there is a story mode and so on

[jolly trench]

the only thing missing from the english one is patch customization

[placid violet]

Yeah I got it a few weeks ago and refunded the next day

Search up Bellum I’m excited for that

[jolly trench]

i saw that

it looks cool but i hope it has a more casual side, i dont always have the ability to like find a squad and play for 12 hours

it seems like one of those games

[agile merlin]

points for realism I guess? I'll have to look at it at some point

[pliant briar]

are you even gaming if you aren't sitting for 12+ hours straight?

[odd mulch]

im looking at the new achievements for the Dark Waters DLC, and wtf is this one for 3 letter Triad "Apprehend or incapacitate 15 suspects consecutively within 15 seconds of one another" no wonder it has 0% completion

[agile merlin]

are you even gaming if you don't beat red dead redemption 2's campaign in two straight days?

[agile merlin]

okay thats fucking wicked

[placid violet]

You just gotta find people to play squad with. Then it’s fun. There are loads of discords that play all the time. I remember playing squad for the first time only a few months ago and hated it. Played for 2 hours and gave up. Came back to it a month later found some people to help me with it and enjoyed it way more. Don’t get me wrong if ur looking for a game that gets you 40+ kills a game then squad probably isn’t that. It’s a milsim at the end of the day and tries to simulate actual soldiering. Would actual soldiers get 40+ killstreaks? You’d be doing good to get 5 kills per life.

[agile merlin]

thats insane

[jolly trench]

probably not.

[jolly trench]

im not talking about squad

[pliant briar]

the % takes into account all people, including the ones that only played early access

[odd mulch]

thats what im saying, thats like, almost every single suspect and hostage within 15 seconds...

[jolly trench]

and im fine with 2 kills per life

[agile merlin]

It could've been done if it was "kill 15 suspects in 15 seconds" or some shit but Apprehend or incapaciate? brotha it takes 15 seconds to apprehend ONE

[odd mulch]

thats still 0 people overall

[placid violet]

To an extent I guess. But even with 6 days it has crosshairs when your not zoomed in giving it that arcade feel too

[somber prism]

Fuck people who only aim for kills in games but never makes an effort for the objective

[pliant briar]

people absolutely have it

it's just rounded, probably

[placid violet]

I know I replied to wrong message I meant to reply to the one above where you said u didn’t like squad

[odd mulch]

You would have to locate the suspects, have everyone stack a door, and all clear the rooms at once.

[placid violet]

^^

[jolly trench]

i havent played squad. i said nothing about it

[agile merlin]

ok then its gotta be you just have to get them to surrender in 15 seconds

[odd mulch]

idk if anyone has it, it's such a small amount of people it's not even funny. Because they do track 0.1%

[jolly trench]

i didnt say i didnt like squad

[swift hull]

Yes you did

[agile merlin]

do most maps even have 15 suspects in one area?

[placid violet]

U literally said “squad too” after chatting about ground branch

[swift hull]

Facts

[pliant briar]

couple millions of copies sold, but not many players left nowadays

[odd mulch]

No, 3 letter triad doesnt have them all in one area and it's a freaking kill house lol, you need to setup with 5 people and have everyone locate and apprehend all at the same time

[pliant briar]

not to mention that generally they have to own the dlc

[jolly trench]

oh i wasnt saying i didnt like squad i was saying it was also a tactical shooter. from the message before ground brach

[agile merlin]

ok so its just a go fuck yourself achievement then

[placid violet]

Arma reforger is a step from squad ts is too much for me. Way too milsim. That actually takes a long time to learn. When I can be arsed to try ill get back into it but for now it’s just sat there on my pc not being played

[odd mulch]

basically, thats how that achievement looks to me, if u get that 1, there's a LOT of luck and communication with 4 other players involved after doing hundreds of runs

[agile merlin]

Arma 3 modded

[swift hull]

You literally said you hate squad

[agile merlin]

tonight I will be eating a straw to prove to you all that turtles are just WEAK

[jolly trench]

never said that. you misinterpreted my message. i said "squad too" when i was continuing the thing where i listed tactical shooters, i wasnt continuing my message saying ground branch sucks.

[glad lake]

is pvp still coming to this game?

[odd mulch]

I just dont see many people being able to complete that achievement, that is just ridiculous

[odd mulch]

I think they got more things to work on before they put pvp back into the game

[placid violet]

Ah yeah. It’s a tactical shooter fs. Imo it’s one of the best game that offers the bridge between arcade and milsim. It probably leans more to the milsim side tho. Hell let loose is good too for that but leans more to arcade style

[jolly trench]

eventually. not soon tho

[pliant briar]

are you also the size of a turtle?

[agile merlin]

Hell Let Loose is a lot of fun

[placid violet]

I have arma 3 but never played it lol. I just bought it for £3 when it went on sale but never played it lmao

[glad lake]

gotcha, i thought it was scrapped.

[pliant briar]

agreed

[placid violet]

Facts. Been getting into it recently

[agile merlin]

I think it does a good job of balancing realism/arcade

[odd mulch]

We desperately need a bandage rework before they even think about a pvp mode

[jolly trench]

i mean bandages would probably be just removed from pvp

[swift hull]

I don’t know about that—sounds like you’re just trying to defend Ground Branch now! You probably meant to continue listing tactical shooters, but there’s still a chance you were low-key throwing shade at Ground Branch.

[pliant briar]

i don't see void making proper anti cheat anytime soon, so pvp will be really tricky to have

[jolly trench]

possibly pvp would have very slow, and i mean very slow regenerating health

[placid violet]

Yeah same. It’s defo more arcade tho. Like in terms of being able to see teammates and sound effects when you kill enemies

[jolly trench]

what? i said ground branch sucks. i said that multiple times

[odd mulch]

They still need to be reworked for the standard edition of the game too

[pliant briar]

just wondering, is there any reason to why you type like this?

[agile merlin]

idc much about that. even hardcore milsims like arma let you see teammates, at least on the map. the sound effect is kind of arcadey though

very satisfying headshots too

[swift hull]

You’ve never said that

[placid violet]

Tbf with him he was shitting on ground branch lol

[jolly trench]

dude. i said that multiple times

[swift hull]

Yeah keep telling yourself that

[jolly trench]

LMAO

[somber prism]

Can we just go back to writing ready or not brainrot?

[swift hull]

I’m trying to gaslight people

[placid violet]

Nah cus with Arma you only see name tags up close and when you look at your teammate stopping you from just shooting straight away and actually checking if they are friendly. Whereas in HLL teammates are always on display and you can see their tags from anywhere

[placid violet]

Type shi

[agile merlin]

true. HLL does have a few cool features though. I like what they did with artilerry

artilery

[jolly trench]

i wrote that like a month ago

[agile merlin]

FUCKING FUCK

yeah you get what im saying im done trying to spell properly

[placid violet]

Dawg he literally said GB was bad what r u on about?)

[odd mulch]

I read 6 sentences before I stopped before I died

[somber prism]

Judge kicks down the door of the MLO and said "its over mlo i am the ready or not"

After he kills the MLO all of d platoon proceeds to have a hot steamy makeout session on the spot

[jolly trench]

relatable

guys what do you think of my copypasta

[swift hull]

No he didn’t. If he said that then why would I be arguing

[agile merlin]

bro did not say that

[placid violet]

Idk I read the message and he was saying ground branch gun play was good but the rest was shit

[somber prism]

Teehee

[placid violet]

If you didn’t understand that then idk what to say

[agile merlin]

cute cat with highcut ♥️

[jolly trench]

he said hes trolling dont worry

[agile merlin]

lowkey that cat got bread what the fuck

[agile merlin]

he has the good highcut

[jolly trench]

police station cat when

[swift hull]

You must have misread it; they definitely said the gunplay was terrible but everything else was amazing.

[agile merlin]

this is a great idea

[jolly trench]

that you can customize with cat size tac gear

[agile merlin]

have a cat that's in full kit

[jolly trench]

and you can feed it coffee from the machine

[agile merlin]

give it the highcut and kitty vest

[glad lake]

i wish theyd get rid of p2p connections and roll out some servers

[agile merlin]

PLEASE

[jolly trench]

🔥

[placid violet]

Yeah. I fucking hate artillery lmao. Running for 5 mins to get done over by some fucker at the back of the map clicking buttons and probably team killing too

[agile merlin]

where is the suggestions channel

[jolly trench]

and you can customize what kind of cat it is

mine is a siamese so i would make it that

[agile merlin]

me after dying for the 500th time to artillery, each time it creeps slowly towards me

[odd mulch]

#1050529506022137876 is a good place to start

[rough kernel]

Holy good lord, I have 107,000 Steam Points so I decided to finally go customize my profile and all i'm seeing is hedonistic anime shit, is there anyway to filter it out?

[jolly trench]

you see this would be an ACTUAL good update

[placid violet]

[agile merlin]

IM SUGGESTING THIS CAT RIGHT NOW

[jolly trench]

and i think people would be ok with paid cosmetic dlcs, for the cat only. its a win win void

[agile merlin]

PETITION FOR LSPD CAT

[swift hull]

You're just salty because you can't handle the artillery, huh? Maybe if you were better at the game, you wouldn't be so upset about getting taken out by someone who's actually playing smart. Bet you're the one team-killing out of frustration.

[odd mulch]

Does this cat stay in the headquarters or come with us

[jolly trench]

void you guys would get 1203000x sales from this update

[agile merlin]

I actively teamkill,
teamkill supremacy

[placid violet]

Yes. You can add stuff from the games you have. For example I have Star Wars battlefront so just added darth vader to it

[jolly trench]

hq only, dont want it getting hurt

[agile merlin]

he roams HQ

[odd mulch]

Petition for the cat to have a chance to eat the therapists donuts

[jolly trench]

he roams hq and has a dedicated bed

sometimes he sits down and sleeps in random locations

[placid violet]

Perhaps I need to get better. Maybe it’s a skill issue. Maybe I should just drink some red bull grow some wings and fly into the sky. 360 noscope the fuckers on artillery and then gently land

And yes I teamkill all the time

[swift hull]

Yeah, exactly! It's definitely a skill issue on your part. Red Bull might help, but let's be real, you'd probably crash into the ground before pulling off any fancy moves. You think you can 360 noscope? More like 360 no-hope. Stick to the basics, buddy.

[odd mulch]

I know a lot of this is meme but it would actually get people to look around the headquarters they put a lot of effort into when only 30% of it is required to play the game

[placid violet]

This guy. Top level troll 😈

[swift hull]

😭

[placid violet]

I’ll stick to fries thanks buddy

Not really a wedge enjoyer

[odd mulch]

This is 100% chat GPT

[swift hull]

Fries? That's your comeback? You're so out of your depth, you might as well be a potato. Enjoy your fries; they're about the only thing you can handle.

🥔

[agile merlin]

DUDE

[placid violet]

Just put the wedges in the bag bro

[agile merlin]

IM ADDING THAT TO THE THREAD

[jolly trench]

made a feedback post about the cat

[swift hull]

😭

[odd mulch]

Imagine the therapist gets mad, and then he needs a therapist

[jolly trench]

where is the thread

[placid violet]

Lmao fr. Especially the bomb drop where the bombs just slowly make there way to you and you watch it then boom

[agile merlin]

I ALREADY DID

[jolly trench]

oh ok

[agile merlin]

go to that forum

[odd mulch]

#1050529506022137876

[agile merlin]

everybody thumbs up the cat form

[odd mulch]

lol u both added one

[agile merlin]

https://discord.com/channels/310075021882294272/1323465649707679854

if enough people want it they will add it

[odd mulch]

Only if we can get a dog too, it makes sense to have K9 at the police HQ

[agile merlin]

for now the cat is fine

don't do too much or it'll be harder to add

[placid violet]

Petition to add a full lethal mode to maps so you can just go full Rambo with no civilians and no unauthorised use of force when you kill a suspect before they shoot 10 bullets at me

[jolly trench]

god forbid void actually has to work HARD!

[placid violet]

It would be like a special forces mission

[dusty hornet]

If we gonna add dogs to the game then i must ask you. Are you comfortable with the idea of a dog getting shot?

[odd mulch]

Well I only would have them as background in the HQ, and we have a dead, shot dog in the gas station map\

And as long as ATF doesn't visit the LSPD HQ we should be fine

[jolly trench]

we already got it

[agile merlin]

everybody go thumbs up the cat post

[placid violet]

Anyone here played zero hour?

[dusty hornet]

I should have clarify better. Are you comfortable with the idea of you shooting a dog?

[agile merlin]

yes

[odd mulch]

I wouldn't shoot a dog at the HQ, I'm not ATF

[agile merlin]

hey who said that

[dusty hornet]

Suspect’s dogs

[odd mulch]

I didn't suggest adding suspect's dogs because how often does SWAT respond and suspects bring dogs with them

[jolly trench]

you wouldnt be able to shoot it.... in hq you cant shoot anything except for the nazi

[dusty hornet]

.

[odd mulch]

ur just adding a variable no1 else wanted to add is all im saying

[jolly trench]

who doesnt want hq cat

raise your hand (i promise we will not execute you)

[odd mulch]

BTW @agile merlin im reading the sleeper agent achievement, its still ridiculous, but u dont have to arrest all of them within 15 seconds, its 15 seconds between one another, so the 15 second timer resets

[dusty hornet]

If you’re just adding K9 unit at the station as a statue then it’s kinda meaningless

[jolly trench]

we dont mean a k9 statue.

also the cat is higher priority than the dog

[agile merlin]

stop bringing up the dog

[odd mulch]

We have a detective area, a dispatch center, a spot for mugshots to be taken, why is it too far to add a k9 unit

60% of the entire HQ is pointless

[tame depot]

Dog. I CANNOT finish this post office mission

[agile merlin]

hey bros stuck on greased palms

[odd mulch]

If we went by your logic lets delete everything there and just go back to the original police department we had where it was literally just the SWAT setup area and the training area lol

[agile merlin]

good luck tho I can't help you

[dusty hornet]

Because i want to make it have more sense?

[odd mulch]

How does it make no sense to have K9 units in a police department? Are they just... not allowed to be there?

[tame depot]

Greased Palms thats the name lol, all i knew was a god forsaken post plant lmao

[jolly trench]

once you learn the HQ for 10 minutes the layout makes complete sense at least for the actually useful stuff (mission room, range, downstairs)

[dusty hornet]

Tbh, that’s be a good idea considered that they just deleted the revamped version of the police station when 1.0 dropped for no reason

[odd mulch]

That's what I'm saying, past that stuff there's literally no use to the rest of it, but it adds to the immersion of it being a department, so idk why "it adds nothing" is an arguement from him lol

[jolly trench]

yeah. i like exploring the hq

also a cat would seriously be the best thing ever

[tame depot]

the details they put just in the hq is wild

[odd mulch]

i think adding animals would literally get more people to go search around the HQ just to find the cat, and they'll see things in the HQ they'd of never went to go see otherwise

[jolly trench]

yeah

[odd mulch]

Literally every developers dream is to have everyone see the minute details that nobody cared to go look at because they simply never have to

I want to see a mission where we have to go rescue the chief and the therapist from terrorists who took over the police department lel

[tame depot]

im booting up to go look around now lol

[odd mulch]

one of the coolest areas to me was the memorial for fallen officers. Also the evidence locker is cool as it holds information for each mission you completed

[floral finch]

the coolest place is the attic

[jolly trench]

what

[dusty hornet]

There’s a attic?

[tame depot]

LMAO

[floral finch]

yeah

[tame depot]

fr?

[floral finch]

yeah

[dusty hornet]

Nah

[tame depot]

i thought you were just fuckin with us lol

[floral finch]

you know the broke down lift?

[jolly trench]

no

[floral finch]

Like theres a stairwell to the right

[jolly trench]

what broke down lift

[floral finch]

well it aint broke down no more

it has two officers right in front of it.

complaining about it being slow

[jolly trench]

where is it tho

can we go in? or something

[rough kernel]

I have 107,000 steam points but im lvl 2 lol wut

[floral finch]

No, theres a stairwell to the right of it.

[jolly trench]

where is it tho

[floral finch]

The lift?

[jolly trench]

yes

never seen it

[floral finch]

To the left of the reception desk.

Down the hall

[jolly trench]

hm

[tame depot]

i must be a bat lol

i swear if i get hit with a random stray and die again

[odd mulch]

he trollin lol, next to the elevator is the memoriam and the chiefs office

[jolly trench]

oh. i got excited for a bit.

[odd mulch]

im not gonna lie i went ingame to look, i got excited when I saw the officers next to the elevator

[elder pilot]

if i cant find the last civilian

should i just kill a civilian and retract

so the rescue all civilians thing is failed instead of complete

[jolly trench]

too busy playing delta force to look. thanks for checking

[floral finch]

Goddamn you, meddling with my baiting.

I forgot the memorian was to the right tbh.

[odd mulch]

I remembered the memoriam forgot about the chiefs office

[floral finch]

The stations layout is a blur to me mostly.

[odd mulch]

because most of it is useless lol

[floral finch]

Yeah

I wonder why those cops are waiting for the lift tbh

Where are they headed?

[odd mulch]

Probably goes to the basement

[floral finch]

I don't see a corresponding set of doors down there

unless its through one of the closed set of doors

[odd mulch]

theres a blocked off set of doors by the hostage room

And it does follow the same path as the elevator would be

[mortal kindle]

WAIT, CAT? WHERE IS THE KIGGY!!

[agile merlin]

its not a feature, unfortunately

[mortal kindle]

WHERE IS THE CAT

[agile merlin]

ITS NOT IN THE GAME

[floral finch]

hes in the attic

[mortal kindle]

WHY THE FUCK NOTT

[agile merlin]

I DONT KNOW

[mortal kindle]

LET ME UP THEREEE

[agile merlin]

go to the forums I suggested they add cat

give it a thumbs up

[mortal kindle]

wheres the forum

[floral finch]

Now that I look at the buildings exterior

I dont think there is space for an attic

[agile merlin]

https://discord.com/channels/310075021882294272/1323465649707679854

[floral finch]

Theres 2 more floors of useless details they could add.

[mortal kindle]

USELESS???

[floral finch]

yippee we get to see more LSPD offices

What would they even put up there

[odd mulch]

look at how tall the ceilings are lol, i wouldnt want an attic here either

[floral finch]

yeah the building is so strange

the exterior is this grey block

and the interior is some semi-artdeco bs

[odd mulch]

just make the elevator functional, and open up that door next to the hostage room

[floral finch]

I wanna talk to the lunatic architect that designed the LSPD HQ

[quiet fulcrum]

train station --> railroad museum --> lspd hq

[half stratus]

who made the hospital so fucking confusing

[floral finch]

some lunatic

[tame depot]

LETS GOO I DID IT

[modest fern]

Very realistic hospital if you ask me

[tame depot]

Supernova is amazing

[odd mulch]

my officers are too good at incaping mannnn, 1 min into twisted nerve and they headshot some1 with the beanbag from like 20 feet out

[tame depot]

on to Valley of the Dolls

[low basin]

Where is the WSC in hide and seek

Nvm got it

Okay the damn ai is bugged on hide and seek

These dumb mfs can’t even get around a wall

[viral dune]

Are you able to get the achievements like "Meldonin" in mulitplayer?

[low basin]

What the hell kind of pathfinding is this

[livid parrot]

I don’t play this game but I saw videos on it & I love it so i decided to join the discord. I’m wondering if this game will ever come to console I don’t have the cash to get a pc atm for anyone who’s gonna say just buy a pc im not rich like ya’ll😭

[modest fern]

If that's the one I am thinking of, yes, but there are some bugs when getting achievements in COOP like only the host getting it.

[modest fern]

Not any time soon if they plan it

[low basin]

Can you explain the shitty pathfinding on hide and seek