💬general-discussion

[runic aspen]

incapacitate?

[fringe scroll]

Launched practice mode, didn't use any grenades, tools, long guns, only 357. and that's it

[pliant briar]

yup

[runic aspen]

how, incapacitating with C2 is so common for me compared to killing them, no matter how close they were to the blast

[lean bear]

I'll try

[small palm]

Love that there is a working coffee machine

[mighty totem]

whats it to you?

[runic aspen]

the fuck?

[sacred eagle]

Is there anything I can do after finishing ready or not

[mighty totem]

Sw4at or Not mods

[sacred eagle]

Wdym

[hollow wyvern]

He means you can mod the game and play it like that

If you didnt you can do all the s ranks and achievements

[sacred eagle]

Oh

[mighty totem]

extra maps that are from SWAT 4

[hollow wyvern]

If you did the latter but dont want to mod it you can fuck around in multiplayer

If you dont wanna do that then you can switch to a new game

[sacred eagle]

Ah

Thanks

[pliant briar]

good luck playing them now

[gray nymph]

anyone willing to gift me elden rng 👉

[fringe scroll]

Istg what is up with beggars in here

[shadow shard]

Bismillah people, this isn't #beg-for-money-or-games.

[fringe scroll]

Can anyone gift me a mansion pls🥺

[runic aspen]

Can someone gift me someone to love

[fringe scroll]

[cosmic herald]

can someone gift me an helicopter

[tawny bane]

Anybody got a higher definition version of this image?

[hollow wyvern]

I can send you a selfie, not quite the same thing though

[tawny bane]

Real

Anyway, I found one

[cosmic herald]

anyway hichat

[hollow wyvern]

Hello yeiden sigma pro

[coral cradle]

Usually 8 GB is enough to play at high settings, if you do not include games like Ready Or Not where developers do not know how to recycle resources

[cosmic herald]

hello HOLYBucketMan i am yeiden sigma pro

[frank mist]

I saw on cloud that rdr2 on max settings only consumes like 4 gigs, so yeah your right, except a few games ig

Nah, maybe free shared steam accounts and u play offline mode, tho its the same thing as piracy

[merry zenith]

Nothing in life is free bro

[pliant briar]

rdr2 is a 5 year old game btw

[pliant briar]

no, it's not the same thing as piracy. please don't misuse terms that have a very well defined meanings. steam allows account sharing as long as it's done free of charge

[plucky dirge]

and it still looks better than 90% of the modern games

[pliant briar]

i doubt that

[native herald]

good morning

[plucky dirge]

look for yourself lol

[zenith sonnet]

Being made on a proprietary engine with devs that made it has its own benefits

[pliant briar]

i already did, the textures look outdated

[plucky dirge]

so what? the overall game looks way better than fucking anything that released in the past few years

[native herald]

there's 0 ways to get supporter edition?

[pliant briar]

if you have a key you can still activate it

[native herald]

I don't have it

I remember u could buy SEdition in steam

now its gone ig

[pliant briar]

resident evil remakes, horizon forbidden west, alan wake 2, final fantasy vii remakes and more

[plucky dirge]

nah, rdr2 wins

[pliant briar]

face models (and their textures) look rather old too

[fringe scroll]

5 year old game is old now. Grim

[pliant briar]

i wonder if v also thinks that kcd2 will looks worse than rdr2

[fringe scroll]

Kcd2 is not out yet

[pliant briar]

"will"

[fringe scroll]

It could look worse. Downgrades are a thing

[pliant briar]

we'll find out pretty soon, if the launch indeed happens this year

[upbeat sage]

Where is the lfg channel can somebody link it?

[pliant briar]

#🔎looking-for-players

[upbeat sage]

Thx

[primal roost]

im so fucking angry rn

i lost all my saves thx

How can i have it back

[native herald]

By replaying the whoooooole gamee agaiiiinnn

[upbeat sage]

what is the soft obj for the first map of home invasion?

[native herald]

Narcotics on the 2nd floor, room with many paintings, texts etc

[frank mist]

Still looks better than like every game except cyberpunk lmao, animations, realism sounds and everything else wise it surpasses like every game

[runic aspen]

my pc just got bluescreened because of my webcam, epic

[cerulean parrot]

Nothing like losing S tiers to invisible civs

[north musk]

when do you think patch 2 is coming out

[north musk]

yeah fr 😂

[harsh edge]

[crimson glacier]

Mb @regal grotto I have no mic :/

[runic aspen]

When it’s ready (3 years time)

[native herald]

5 months

[stone hemlock]

😦

[digital pilot]

Hey devs, just noticed you dropped an early album of the OST and I wanted to say thanks, been waiting for it
Also I read somewhere on discord you guys were uncertain if the community was going to like it or not ? I'll just say it complements the level design and overall lore handsomely
Well done ppl, curious to see where this all goes 👍

[twin panther]

need help speedrunning dorms

[dusky wave]

how to play multiplayer

[north musk]

hope next week want to play the maps on commander mode

[quaint nebula]

many of the new aaa games do need more then 8gb for high setings

[runic aspen]

I am ready, are you?

[frank mist]

True ig, tho 1 account shared with 10000 people or 10000 people pirating the game is kinda the same thing

Both make no money for steam nor the developers

[frank mist]

Tbh i blame it on the devs

They are lazy to optimize their games

Like be fr why should skull and bones need more vram than cyberpunk or rdr2

(Idk if it does tho it seems like one of the most underhyped lazied out games ever)

Tho ultra settings would need more than 8 gig in the future

[quaint nebula]

doesnt cp on max settings also need 10+gb?

[quaint nebula]

not that cp 💀

[runic aspen]

your house is the next ron dlc

[quaint nebula]

lmao

the spider/mindjot 2.0?

[runic aspen]

23 megabytes a second

[frank mist]

Tbh no idea but ill prob get a 12 gig card

To be safe

[quaint nebula]

yeahhhh i'm as of now fine with my 16gig xd

[runic aspen]

at this point just get the 4060ti

[frank mist]

Expensive ass 😦 ill get the 3060 prob

[quaint nebula]

pls no 3060 xD

where do you live?

[runic aspen]

don't ever buy the 4060 ever

[cinder jay]

the 3060 ti is good

[frank mist]

Oh nvm i tought 4060 ti is like 3 times the normal price, tho its js 100 more

[frank mist]

Romania, gl finding good gpus for normal price lmao

[quaint nebula]

4060ti is okay'ish for it's price

[quaint nebula]

ohhhhhhhh hmmmm

[runic aspen]

4060ti is just a 16gb version of 4060 after nvidia recieved major backlash for not having enough gb

[frank mist]

The only popular ones are 3050 3060 4060 and rx 6600

[frank mist]

Oh, just extra vram?

[quaint nebula]

but hello fellow brother i'm also romanian xD

[frank mist]

Oo

[runic aspen]

it has the same specs as the 4060, so yes the ti version was made because of a controversy

[quaint nebula]

but i no longer live there xD

[frank mist]

Germany?

[quaint nebula]

yeah

[frank mist]

Most romanians that move to another country move there so yea it was expected lmao

[quaint nebula]

fr haha

like most the friends of my parents from our origin village also came here xDDD

[frank mist]

Im gonna do some cool benchmark on ready or not in like 2 days 🙏

[frank mist]

My friend was there for a few years, then came back

[frank mist]

Amd epyc zen 4
28 gig ddr5
Radeon rx 7900 xt 20 gig

[runic aspen]

sorry i forgot to mention i use 4060ti when playing ron lol

[frank mist]

Oh nice

I play on cloud lmao my pc lags on stardew

[runic aspen]

surprisingly i'm able to run ron on ultra graphics, but on bigger maps like greased palms you'll notice some drops on ultra so you'll have to switch on high

[frank mist]

Im getting this for 1$ a month in a few days, with 4k, i wonder how well ready or not on ultra will run lmao

[frank mist]

Oh nice

[pliant briar]

realistically they wouldn't get any money either way. people willing to pirate or use a shared account most likely wouldn't buy it beforehand anyway (there are stats that prove this behavior)

[runic aspen]

reminds me of that one interview with gabe about combating piracy with steam

[dusky wave]

whats the differance between AP and JHP

which one is better

[runic aspen]

armor piercing and jacketed hollow point should be self explanatory, one pierces through and the other expands itself on the target it hits

[dusky wave]

im going with AP

[runic aspen]

good choice

[pliant briar]

"jacketed hollow point should be self explanatory"

you mean there's a hollow point with a jacket on?

[pliant briar]

what caliber?

[frank mist]

Yeah thats why i said they are like the same thing lmao

[rigid bone]

Strictly speaking yes.

[pliant briar]

oops

[runic aspen]

well they're called metal jackets specifically but yeah, they technically do wear jackets

[pliant briar]

are you hollow too?

[rigid bone]

More than I'd like to admit

[frank mist]

Piracy with instant game updates

[runic aspen]

not in this timeline we are in right now

[frank mist]

You get the update instantly dont you?

[pliant briar]

definitely not piracy, as piracy = copying/sharing/distributing copyrighted materials (that you don't have permission to)

[frank mist]

By instant i meant that you can download it as it releases, not that it instantly downloads

[runic aspen]

i love being a pirate

i too wanna venture out the seas

[frank mist]

If buying isnt owning piracy isnt stealing trust

[rigid bone]

Let's not get back on this again.

[frank mist]

Tho i dont pirate lmao, i cant even do it even if i wanted to

[runic aspen]

hey don't blame us, Ubisoft and EA tried to take games that people already brought

[frank mist]

Fr, the crew for example

[rigid bone]

'Tried', you mean they have taken games that people already bought

[rapid tartan]

they already did

[frank mist]

Ubi acc deleted the crew from peoples libraries p sure

[pliant briar]

let's just say that it doesn't make any sense to take something without actually taking anything and saying you took something

[frank mist]

Also they had some policy which i think they removed due to blacklash that deleted ur account if you didnt use it for a few months/years

Tho i may be wrong

[autumn cypress]

They "tried to take over the world !"

[frank mist]

They couldve done what microsoft did for forza 4 ngl

Delist it and make it work offline, and automate events/quests

[rigid bone]

Also to retread old ground, piracy isn't theft but it's still illegal via IP infringement

[runic aspen]

at this point by 2025, all thats left talking about is controversies after controversies cause thats the only thing these companies produce

[frank mist]

They also have huge sales till they get delisted

[pliant briar]

i don't see a reason to why online games should be kept online forever just because someone might still play them. servers cost money

[frank mist]

True, tho i rarely seen countries that actually take action

I think only germany kinda cares about it

[pliant briar]

and at the moment there's no law that says you have to provide alternatives to official servers if they were to stop working

[harsh edge]

UwU

[autumn cypress]

It's like you are purposefully designing the game with a kill-switch because you are not providing dedic servers 😄

[rigid bone]

I'm not gonna lie though, I will wholly admit, I still do partake in a little 🏴‍☠️
Mostly only for indies that are in EA and don't have Demos.

[pliant briar]

yes, it's a bad design

[runic aspen]

arrr ye pirrates

[frank mist]

Tbh i heard some people have adobe licenses but they prefer pirated versions since they are easier to use

[harsh edge]

UwU

[frank mist]

Which is kinda crazy

[autumn cypress]

Pfff, just do some tech support for them, they'll give you a key

[frank mist]

Fr

[runic aspen]

most things that are pirated are usually made easier both of access and usage

[rigid bone]

I wouldn't say most

Anything with Denuvo for sure though

[runic aspen]

well...the selected few winners

[frank mist]

Also its good for conserving games

[rigid bone]

I don't think I could do tech support for this game:
https://store.steampowered.com/app/887570/NEBULOUS_Fleet_Command/

Steam

NEBULOUS: Fleet Command

Take command of a fleet of space warships tailored to your exact play-style. Favor a small task group of robust, flexible multi-role combatants, a large group of specialized ships, or something in between. Do battle in a heavily simulation-based tactical game featuring everything from kinetics and beam weapons to realistic radar and electronic w...

Price

$29.99

Recommendations

2736

▶ Play video

I downloaded it, realized I was too dumb to play it, but I ended up buying it for a couple friends that love this kinda stuff

[runic aspen]

30 dolaridoos for that? This is where taxpayer money should go

[rigid bone]

It's a wonderfully complex space naval simulation game that goes super hard

[runic aspen]

true chad behaviour

[runic aspen]

i grew up in a poor country where its considered a big insult and a big waste of money to buy games, and if you do buy one, your parents will beat the shit out of you until you got purple marks in your body for wasting money, so piracy culture got big here, not as big as before because parents care way less now.

[rapid tartan]

boo hoo

[ocean sinew]

i

[runic aspen]

biggest issue when it comes to countries that are in difficulty is that there is little room for pleasure

[frank mist]

Tbh most of the times i pirate games i do it so i can play it with my friends lmao, its hard to make like 3 other people buy some random game especially if you are only gonna play it for a few hours then leave it rot in your library

[autumn cypress]

You see, i really do just TECH support, as in just crashes, error messages, PC stability, etc. no gameplay.
I ain't having like 60% of the games i do support for 😂

[rigid bone]

Valid

[rapid tartan]

I pirate games that I can't buy anymore. Ultimate Alliance 1 & 2 and the War/Battle for Cybertron series are notable ones that have been delisted

[runic aspen]

i could pay like 50 bucks for Dark Souls but i could play all 3 pirated

[frank mist]

Even games i own, like lethal company, i have to run pirated version to play with some of my friends lmao

[rigid bone]

[runic aspen]

at this point we need a pirate discussion channel in here

when bloodborne com out

[rapid tartan]

or get a job and wait for a sale

[rigid bone]

No

[runic aspen]

im kidding- im kidding by the way eyy its a joke, LSPD there's nothing in my house

[runic aspen]

lol why do that when i can get smth for free.

you can be dumb with money or you can play smart and go around stuff

[frank mist]

Support the devs 😦

Tho for ubisoft, ea and such they dont need no support

[runic aspen]

i gave my soul to FromSoft 3 times

[rigid bone]

Only?

[runic aspen]

growing up poor makes you smarter to go around

[frank mist]

I only gave it once 😦 for elden ring

[runic aspen]

well 7 times if you count the other 3 and demons souls

[dense rapids]

Hey, guys how unlock the safe door for the news maps villa thnaks 🙂

[pliant briar]

daily reminder that fromsoftware's games are technologically terrible

[frank mist]

Fr i have to find ways to get 60$ games cheaper since i cant run pirated versions on cloud and also dont have 60$ to spend on a game

Usually i find a way to get it for like 5-10$ after all

[rigid bone]

For all From games? 25 times.

[frank mist]

(I have 12 steam accounts)

[simple epoch]

I would be down to sell my soul for elden ring

[runic aspen]

what the fuck

[autumn cypress]

12 accounts to avoid bans, eh ?

[runic aspen]

12 accounts for what

[runic aspen]

dont, i sold mine for 1400 hours, never again (i'll buy the next fromsoft game)

[rigid bone]

[frank mist]

Games, gimme 10 sec

[runic aspen]

👁️ 👄 👁️

[simple epoch]

WHAT. 1400 HOURS?

[frank mist]

#🎨ron-screenshots-and-art

[rigid bone]

Ah. So that's that you're doing

[runic aspen]

what the fuck man, sure you didn't need that many for a few games

[runic aspen]

yeah

[simple epoch]

That's insane. Understandable tho

[frank mist]

I fs did, 1 is in china 1 is in moldova 1 is in romania 1 is in pakistan 1 is somewhere else and so on

[runic aspen]

no you're insane

[simple epoch]

I am insane.

[north musk]

always 🤩

[runic aspen]

regional pricing goes hard

[frank mist]

Half are bought off of keystores half are selfmade for regional

[frank mist]

Fr

[pliant briar]

1k hours in any action singleplayer game is indeed pretty crazy

[runic aspen]

[frank mist]

Romania has base euro pricing even if the economy is garbo 😦

I have to improvise somehow

[runic aspen]

the new dlc for trepang's about to make me add another 100 hours

[frank mist]

Tbh i think there are ppl with 10k+ hours in elden ring

[pliant briar]

most games are more expensive in polish zloty than in euro, despite our economy still being fairly behind

[frank mist]

Dang rip

[pliant briar]

but not ready or not for some strange reason

[runic aspen]

at several points of sales, l4d2 costed literal cents in our pricing

[rigid bone]

Proper regional pricing

[runic aspen]

even the homeless man with a couple of cents given by passerbys can buy like holyshit

[simple epoch]

My region used to have good regional pricing, but they fucked it up everything's now 5-20 times more expensive

[frank mist]

Atleast you have the currency supported by steam, we use euro so games cant do regional pricing even if they wanted to

[frank mist]

L4d2 portal 2 and such had under 1$ global price, got em normally

[runic aspen]

how much did ron costed at some point during a sale on turkey? 6 dollars or something?

[random pine]

Yeah it's called playing Assassin's Creed IV: Black Flag

[frank mist]

Same with nfs heat, and its one of the good ea games for some reason

[pliant briar]

we got it at the end of 2017

[frank mist]

Oh nice

[frank mist]

They removed turkish lira right?

[runic aspen]

its a shame its much harder to gift games for friends overseas due to restrictions with regional pricing

[runic aspen]

yes, although a lot of people already got the games, even ron so damn cheap

[rigid bone]

Oh man, I love Black Flag

[frank mist]

On keyshops it was like 10 or 15 i dont remember

[rigid bone]

[pliant briar]

most people don't have friends in other distant countries, so it's not that surprising

[frank mist]

I have friends ive known for 4-5 years from distant countries

[autumn cypress]

All people ever wanted from Ubi is Black Flag but without the Assassin vs Templar lore.

And look what they gave us 10 years later..

[runic aspen]

i'm mr worldwide so i got friends all over the globe (not surprising for a shut in like me when i was a teen) and sometimes we're able to gift each other, but most of the time we can't

[frank mist]

Fr, tho i think they kinda improved it nowadays, ive been able to gift from cis to south asia currency

Tho it depends on the price diff p sure

[runic aspen]

heavily depends on the price diff, if its more/less than 15%, steam prevents you

[frank mist]

They shouldnt prevent if it costs more than your friends pricing ngl

Wrong reply

[frank mist]

I make 2 accounts gift the game to the 2nd and they download it from there

Right reply 🔥

[pliant briar]

true, it should say "hey, don't be stupid. give them the money instead and let them buy it themselves, it's cheaper"

[runic aspen]

trying to charge up your steam wallet in most 3rd world countries is so damn mighty expensive

[frank mist]

With transfer taxes it aint ngl

Its cheaper to js gift

[frank mist]

Fr

[runic aspen]

thats where the problem starts, when the price diff is too much you can't gift

[frank mist]

Even if it was more expensive thats the thing, let us gift it even if it costs more, both the dev and steam make more money

[pliant briar]

oh, i guess the ignorance is strong for me with this

at most i would be charged like $0.25 (but in my currency) for the transaction

[frank mist]

Yeah, i just make an account thats the same region as the one im gifting from, gift it to that and give it to my friend to dl and play on

[frank mist]

Tho we are talking ab friends from all over the globe, diff banks, diff countries everything

There is the transfer fee, exchange fee, and prob more

[runic aspen]

they love money

[frank mist]

Fr

[rigid bone]

On the note of money, remember friends, Fiduciary Responsibility is the downfall of Western game development.

[frank mist]

On the same note, remember friends, gambling is the only reason fedex didnt go bankrupt

Blackjack my beloved

[mystic canopy]

Sup ppl

[frank mist]

Hi

[runic aspen]

thank you for them important life lessons

[frank mist]

Did they go bankrupt or

[rigid bone]

No, it's just the major factor in all of the layoffs you see from large game devs

[frank mist]

Oh thats true

[mystic canopy]

Omw to the orthodontist, hoping they'll either remove the braces or tell me when they'll get removed

[frank mist]

Gl

[rigid bone]

I remember when I had braces. My dentist fucked up the installation

[runic aspen]

might aswell just remove all teeth, no more monthly visits, problem solved

[runic aspen]

New World Interactive didn't deserved what happened to them

that's the worst frfr

[mystic canopy]

Damn did they fix it?

[rigid bone]

lolno

[mystic canopy]

U fortunate

Unfortunate *

[runic aspen]

surely they'd be required to fix no?

[frank mist]

Nwi are the hitman devs right? I really like that they didnt give up even tho they nearly went bankrupt after they got fired or left the first company, only with the hitman llc, hitman 2 turned out pretty great even with such small budget, they focused the budget on gameplay, while they made the animations slideshows to make up for the budget

[frank mist]

Dang it sucks

[frank mist]

Not even some compensation?

[runic aspen]

isnt it IOI interactive? or r they the publishers

[frank mist]

Then it aold out great and 3 released! Happy ending fr

[frank mist]

Lemme check rq, i think ur right

[runic aspen]

No, New World Interactive made the insurgency mod, then insurgency sandstorm

[frank mist]

Yeah ur right mb, they are both devs and publishers, i like that they didnt give up tho, even with so little budget

[runic aspen]

dang never knew they made Insurgency sandstorm

[frank mist]

Oh, what happened to them?

[runic aspen]

it kinda became a micro transaction game no? with tons of custo

All original staff of New World Interactive got laid off as a way to save money by their parent company, while they were in the middle of working in another fps game project which has now been scrapped

[frank mist]

Oh rip

[runic aspen]

a lot of talented people lost because of corporate greed

[frank mist]

I think i heard ab something similar from another company, they laid out most of the current devs that worked on some game, hired new cheaped out ones and it flopped badly

[runic aspen]

corpo greed should be a necessary case study in buis schools (idk if it is but gaming corpos are the best greed definitions)

big corpos such as Blizzardhave a major downfall

y'all think ron will have a downfall of its own in the future?

not necessarily. Every game has got a life and death and dead games do come out in the later years. RoN while having few updates that massively change the game a year steadily rises and aspires greatness

[frank mist]

I mean it already hit a peak, and it didnt necessarly happen, so i doubt it

[runic aspen]

it's peak was in Early Access, now it's a thriving game with it's community

[frank mist]

I said necessarly because they still dont really give sneak peaks, update plans, and such

Tho they arent greedy

[runic aspen]

RoN desnt get casual but it gets a dedicated playerbase

[frank mist]

The dlc had a nice price and most of the things they added were free for everyone, it couldve been WAY worse, they are a nice company atm imo

[runic aspen]

as a first week player or so, did i want certain changes? Yes, did they ariive? yes and no. i fully trust VOID and the decisions they make

[frank mist]

Except i myself would like more transparency ngl

[runic aspen]

i mean i've seen games that hit it big, had a big community who loved it, and a passionate team behind it, and it somehow finds a way to steer into an unfortunate tragedy that leads to its demise where people think its impossible to reach it

[frank mist]

cough cough helldivers 2

[runic aspen]

maybe less AI usage (for art or stuff, it's kinda wonky at times)

[frank mist]

The big corpo killed it

[runic aspen]

i've long accepted that all games are vulnerable to death, no matter how good they can be. And ron is no exception

[frank mist]

True, tho it doesnt bother me much, but id like some actual update roadmap, some sneak peaks to hype updates up and more popular community suggestions being added

[runic aspen]

yeah. i honestly would love to see a map where you can have many roles such as a sniper position, usage of vehicular entry or stuff like that

it's hard to put into practice since it's a lot of engineering but an update adding those would be the best and it might regain a lot of popularity

[frank mist]

Fr, usually they die when big corpos join it with their dumb decisions, when the devs get greedy or when the game doesnt update anymore, if we talk ab multiplayer or single/multiplayer games

Singleplayer games die either way, even if they are updated and no greed or laziness comes in, take palworld for example, tho it isnt completely dead

[rigid bone]

There is a fine line between transparency and self deprecation though. :(

[frank mist]

Nor can they revive it, players finished the game, not much they can do

[runic aspen]

palworld isnt talked about much, but ahs it's own community. same here

[runic aspen]

i remember that one interview on a dev of half life 2, where one of the monsters made in the game (unfortunately a cut content) was made because the dev's daughter who was a kid was simply asked to draw a monster, and the kid straight up makes a design of an abomination

[frank mist]

True, but #dev-updates its been a spider nest 😦

[runic aspen]

they dont get media attention but they rely on ear to ear to share the game

[runic aspen]

children are devils

[frank mist]

They got a lot of media atention on release

But as i said, players completed the game, not much they can do to bring them back

[manic spoke]

when next patch

[frank mist]

It still flows around 50k players tho, which is really good for a single plr game

[runic aspen]

5-6 months

[manic spoke]

dude why is de dlc not availably in commander mode

[frank mist]

Theyll bring dlc maps to commander in 6 months? Dam

Tought itll be sooner than that

[rigid bone]

[manic spoke]

wasted 10 bucks

[runic aspen]

nearly everyone said the same thing

i didn't buy the DLC early cause i couldn't scratch that feeling, and i'm glad i didn't and now i'll just buy the DLC on sale

[frank mist]

I enjoy commander more because i can go in the speed i want to, in multiplayer, randoms just rush the whole match

And my friends dont have ron so i can only play w randoms

[runic aspen]

the DLC imo is great, the fact that the retail price for 3 maps 3 guns and more customisation for 11 dollars is very cheap for the work and i really commend that from the VOID team

[frank mist]

Yeah the dlc price its pretty nice imo

[runic aspen]

they played it smart, they didnt sell it for 40 bucks like an EA 3 hour DLC but ia fun and engaging expansion

the new customisation might be minimal but the QOL for it is fantastic. it's always good to drip out

[runic aspen]

why is that anyways? genuinely curious

just the maps and customization, the guns was free. i don't tinker too much with the cosmetics either so i'll pretty much just buy a 10$ worth of dlc for only three maps

i'll just get it on sale

[runic aspen]

even so, it's not much for 3 maps of different sizes and a few cosm items

but yeah, yard sales go hard on steam

[frank mist]

Why is what, the fact that they didnt add em since release or the fact that i want em in commander mode

[runic aspen]

growing up poor makes you paranoid on every single purchase you make, no matter how much it costs

[runic aspen]

why arent the new dlc maps in commander mode yet i meant. is it a trouble with the porting of Unreal Engine 5?

its an instinct i can never scratch away for the rest of my life probably

[frank mist]

They said its story related

The raids in the dlc happen a few years after the initial commander mode story or smth

[runic aspen]

yeah i feel you. my dad gives me the "back in my day" talk. we laugh about it but i feel you and respect that

[frank mist]

Thats what i heard atleast

[runic aspen]

no its after the port honokan raid, thats why it was storming during it

[runic aspen]

Ubisoft should take notes on how to delay things. even if the delay is story related if they actually made their games bad because of lore that'd make publicity

[frank mist]

Oh alr

[runic aspen]

i hate how i'm slowly becoming my dad as years go by, his mannerism, his heavy and loud ass voice, making dad jokes when the oppotunity arises, i feel old lmao

we all usually grow into the ones we respect the most/idolise

idk why but for example, i'm super like my dad but different. my family is like military and he was the only one not to fight for his country with arms but becoming a lawyer. it's weird how genes just make you follow what your family does or not

things dont make much sense tbh

[runic aspen]

that lawyer bit reminded me of the "A Few Good Men" movie

[frank mist]

And the fact that a few years prior youd find some things odd/lame but now you enjoy them lmao

[runic aspen]

i hated love songs as a kid because my mom plays them all the time, now i listen to them while hugging myself in the corner of the shower

i really grew up

[frank mist]

Fr, im starting to slowly drive myself to songs i hated a few years back

And other things aswell

[rigid bone]

Incorrect. The DLC starts a day after Port

[runic aspen]

my dad loves Lana Del Rey and i dont, i fell like when im older i'll like her music lmao, especially Venice Bitch, my worse enemy

i still remember when the only problem in my life before was fixing the bearing in my bicycle

[runic aspen]

jesus old man i already told him relax, he's already dead

[rigid bone]

Mood

I hate paying Taxes

[runic aspen]

thats why i don't pay taxes (for legal reasons this is a joke)

[frank mist]

Yeah i didnt expect it to be fully correct, thats what i said 'thats what i heard, atleast', heard that thing from someone in some video talking ab why the maps arent in commander mode

[rigid bone]

See, you also likely heard it from me

I misinterpreted some info I'd read on the backend

[frank mist]

Prob

Then i have no idea why they arent in commander mode ngl

[runic aspen]

honestly the only thing we needed to hear was "It was the same storm during port honokan" and the rest will make sense

[frank mist]

I doubt it would be that hard to implement them

[runic aspen]

they simply forgor

[frank mist]

How do you forget a whole gamemode 😭

Especially it being probably the main gamemode ppl play

[rigid bone]

The intent was to package all the DLC missions as a mini-campaign in commander mode

[frank mist]

Then bugs came in?

[rigid bone]

No, there weren't any bugs preventing Commander mode implimentation

[trail breach]

im at twisted nerves and i feel like the lat ai doesnt spazn in

[rigid bone]

It's actually a very easy change

[tender bay]

this game is gonna make me cry with all the fps drops

[frank mist]

Then why didnt they implement them from the start, planety of people only play commander

[runic aspen]

it would have made more sense if the raid in the DLC also happened while in the middle of the hurricane, then you'd have plausible explanations that the characters doing the raid on DLC are not the original from the base game

[trail breach]

im at twisted nerves and i feel like the lat ai doesnt spazn in

[frank mist]

If i had to guess the playercount is probably split into commander and multiplayer

[runic aspen]

Ai is much better

[rigid bone]

Well:

1. We were gonna wait until DLC 2 and however farther we went were done to then introduce the new Commander Campaign
2. We entirely underestimated how many people played Commander mode

[runic aspen]

i do wonder, do the AI suspects still have the suicide promt? i havent seen that in a while

[rigid bone]

Yarp

[frank mist]

Oh, fair

[trail breach]

im at twisted nerves and i feel like the lat ai doesnt spazn in

[runic aspen]

under what circumstance do they just end their lives?

[frank mist]

I like commander mode because there is no one rushing me unlike multiplayer where people go john wick

And i either have to rush the whole match or be left behind

[trail breach]

im at twisted nerves and i feel like the lat ai doesnt spazn in

[runic aspen]

Brixley was doing "CP" things on the spider mission, so sometime's hell blow his head off with a .354 magnum

[solid cape]

When their morale down to low value they can suicide

[runic aspen]

how to they get that low value? i've only seen it in the brixey talent show and i belive it was in the old hotel map too

but honestly, i've never had a single suicide prompt on my entire 130+ hours of the game, i forgot it even existed

i'd expect if you shot their leg or smth?

nope, i've had my fair share of leg shots

not with the SA-58 ofc cuz you'd die by 7MM logic

[solid cape]

Anything that can low their morale: yelling, shooting at them, grenades, non lethal and etc

[trail breach]

im at twisted nerves and i feel like the lat ai doesnt spazn in

[runic aspen]

shooting around? i got unauth by shooting near them

[solid cape]

what ai?

[trail breach]

the civilian

[solid cape]

did you check spawn near tent? nvm

[trail breach]

uh; i donmt think so

[runic aspen]

twisted nerves is a surprisingly big map early on, check everything

[trail breach]

le;e check it brb gotta start nez ga;e

[solid cape]

last civi can be everyone or even incap and you need to cuff him

[trail breach]

is it posible he isnt on the map

[solid cape]

nope

[trail breach]

cuz i zent around the map for 50 min

[solid cape]

did you try search and secure command?

[trail breach]

ye

[solid cape]

and your swat ai just standing still?

[trail breach]

where is the thent

no the civilian isnt on the ;ap i feel

[solid cape]

nvm, i though you on spider map

[trail breach]

no tzisted nerves

[solid cape]

Did you check attic as well?

[trail breach]

ye

[solid cape]

well, there 1 thing you can do, order your team hold some where and then kill one civi

that will fail objective for finding civi but you will complete map

[trail breach]

wzhy

kk.

[solid cape]

your swat ai will agro on you so carefull

[trail breach]

k

[runic aspen]

is that how you get the achievement?

just kill a civi and get the shoot me command? or is it some konami code thing

[solid cape]

the devil? Yeap

[runic aspen]

i still don't know how to get the fool achievement

prolly because i never bothered looking it up

[simple epoch]

Easiest way would be to let daniella voll beat you to death

[solid cape]

civis on twisted nerve or on new dorms can punch you, or Amos Voll on valley

[runic aspen]

amos voll shoots you

worst chievement frfr is Hanged Man imo, like

[runic aspen]

The Hermit...

tazer flash and bash on hokan

[solid cape]

Daniela Voll*

[trail breach]

BRO i heard a baby cry noise on siztched nerves just oz

[runic aspen]

that was meant for the other guy btw

[runic aspen]

RoN achievments wanna see how bad they can take you to insanity

[runic aspen]

i did the hermit but didn't got the achievement, just the watch

i ended up in the asylum the next day

lmao

what's The Hermit again?

beat Ironman mode without losing a single officer

in permadeath too right?

yes

lol

thats why i went ballistic when the steam achievement didn't register

my worst feeling was realising i lost all my S ranked maps cuz there's now an achievment and i gotta redo all S, imagine Hokan...my biggest nightmare was that map

never yell for compliance, shoot to kill the suspects

if you never yell you never get unauth (not true)

the hanged man is known for not registering properly

but idk about the hermit which i did only once without dying irl from going insane

[solid cape]

You dont even need taser or flashbangs to get it

[runic aspen]

i did hear to not use flash during hanged man attempts

the easiest hard achievement for me was Beat Cop tbh, narcos can be a hard map but beating it pistol was easier

[solid cape]

You can't use lockpick for the hanged man or way out west

[runic aspen]

5.7 go boom

[solid cape]

Last time i tested it if they deploy anything you wont get it

[runic aspen]

the hermit may have not registered for me, but at least it registered The World achievement

one of my proudest steam achievements so far

what guns would you want added to RoN?

is the 509 viable too? it's worked well for me

im more of a glock person honestly, idk why i didn't liked the 5.7

its just that everytime i use it, something's off

[static musk]

any canadian in the chat?

[vivid panther]

yoo

[runic aspen]

nothing beats a good ol 509 with an SA-58 unsuppressed in tight spaces

SR-16 is great honestly, good recoil overall to make follow up shots even faster

[fringe scroll]

[runic aspen]

not to mention the flux raider, gah damn that carbine kit barely has any recoil

[fringe scroll]

I mean it's just a fancy pistol

[runic aspen]

a very stable pistol

is the SPC any good? For it's category?

[fringe scroll]

It's pretty weak even for unarmored suspects, I'd rather have a proper long gun and a glock for a sidearm

[quick stone]

It's just a worse smg.

[runic aspen]

im probably just biased with low recoil weapons honestly, i just like to actually see and hit the targets in quick succesions

[runic aspen]

big drawback imo is the ammo. had they used that conversion rifle/pistol/smg to a stronger 5,7 or .45 acp round yeah

[fringe scroll]

Use g36 with vertical grip and little to no recoil

[quick stone]

The raider doesn't even have good recoil. All the 9mm smgs have less

[runic aspen]

i tried running SMGs at some point on semi auto, and i just couldn't, the horizontal recoil is just bugging me

[quick stone]

Bro what recoil

[runic aspen]

horizontal, im okay with vertical but not horizontal

[quick stone]

They have none

[runic aspen]

just use an Mp5, that shit mops up the floor like nun

also, it's semi auto, there is no recoil at semi lol

[mortal trench]

pew pew

[runic aspen]

despite not maining SMG's the MP5 did became my best pick in that category still

its a great weapon

idk what my fav smg is, i'm tied with the MPX, Mp5 10MM or even SPC

[runic aspen]

i tried firing quickly on semi with an MPX and i just- idk i just hated it

cant forget the SA-58 no?

[quick stone]

Why is the SLR even in the game. It's a weird inclusion and just a weird Ak in general. Like if they wanted to have an Ak they could at least include something better

[runic aspen]

i always get the LVAR when im in the mood on using .300, then the SR-16 for 5.56

low mag size doesnt matter as much if the suspects die in 1 shot

[quick stone]

I hate that you're even saying there is one in a game like RoN

[runic aspen]

870CQB for the W

[quick stone]

Funny because you say the G36 is the meta but I never see it used by anyone. I've seen people use the G3 mod than the G36

[runic aspen]

my go to .300 is the PDW now, i really love the smaller design of the rifle and the feel of it, it's on the higher recoil though

[runic aspen]

i honestly keep forgetting that G36 exists

i just play weapons per description tbh, like if i gun familiarises with cqc then a map like Twisted Nerve or even hospital is needed

[quick stone]

You don't even need the "best" gun. Like I understand why meta is a thing in games like Cod, but it's just kinda pointless in RoN

[runic aspen]

if it favors long distance neon tomb, narcos, or Hokan are the ones

[runic aspen]

everyone dies in 1 shot pretty much, any gun

[quick stone]

That's just not true

[runic aspen]

(by headshot)

[quick stone]

Give them SA58s and you're done lol

[little hawk]

Dudes talking about meta and min/maxing when the SA58 is literally used in majority of speedruns

[mortal trench]

[quick stone]

Well...sometimes. Can get kinda funky in multiplayer for some reason.

[little hawk]

But okay dokey argue math I guess :/

[runic aspen]

lag does wonders lol

[topaz relic]

Damn, what’s the fastest you guys have done Sullivan’s slope with an S

[mortal trench]

1 minute

[topaz relic]

Iirc for me it was 52.6 Sec

I got lucky had all 3 by each other

Non S I think was 48

[static ingot]

I run any gun that works for me

[runic aspen]

i really want a g36 with a handle tbh, but i dont want a mod for that

[topaz relic]

MCX is nice tbf

[runic aspen]

having it in game would be nice and cool

[raw spade]

guys if i buy this in india can i still play with like Us EU?

[topaz relic]

Yes it’s through steam

[raw spade]

thx

[topaz relic]

At least to my knowledge you can

[raw spade]

mk

[runic aspen]

the GA 416 is a really good all rounder imo, it has good ergos, asthetics and maintains a good recoil control and fire rate

[little hawk]

It's comparable to the g36.

[upbeat summit]

How would I get into the Lawmaker Panic Room, if possible?

[runic aspen]

that's the neat part, you dont

[upbeat summit]

Ah

[runic aspen]

they're quite similar but if i remember the g36 is the more controllable one

[little hawk]

For sure but not by huge factor really... I'm still blown away this guy is talking about meta but regurgitating shit that makes no sense.

[runic aspen]

lol

[little hawk]

Most maps center mass 2 shot to incap. So with any rifle it's 15 potential drops on 1 mag

SA58, 20 potential incaps on most maps :/

[runic aspen]

my beauty

[little hawk]

I'd argue that certain maps with health modifiers sure switch to a different rifle. But that's only a select few maps :/

If you complain about the recoil then damn switch to a different gun. Some of us know how to pull down a lil with our mouse wild concept I know.

[runic aspen]

the SA58 is more manageable than some would think

tbh just use laser pointer cant to a side aim and just fire up

[little hawk]

Yeah I never ADS. Hell I don't even run a sight on mine lmao

[runic aspen]

ADS isnt my thing tbh, if night ops i run NVG canted with Mawl or PEQ15. it's way cooler

[mental aspen]

I’ve done the whole game mostly using the ARWC, I don’t even know if it’s any good but it’s always just felt the cleanest to use for me

[runic aspen]

the SA58 is such a terrorkiller like bruh it's super clean

[quaint nebula]

fr, i like the sr16

[pliant briar]

about the 2. really? i mean, what mode does "new game" button start? exactly. also, practice mode has a potentially misleading name which leads to people not even trying it

[mental aspen]

It’d be nice to see an updated shooting range, something with moving and long range targets maybe, something to better test recoil patterns on guns too, the paper ones aren’t all that helpful, definitely give me incentive to try some other guns for more than one life

[rigid bone]

Honestly yeah, though that's why it's gonna be renamed.

[runic aspen]

for experimental weapons gas station is a good tryout, small and quick map with short to medium range encounters

[pliant briar]

yeah, you have to do the unthinkable, read mod's description before downloadding it

[rigid bone]

https://tenor.com/view/falcon-sam-wilson-outta-line-but-gif-22091662

[runic aspen]

Ok

[pliant briar]

tldr: you can't, because it's not out yet (the ui)

[runic aspen]

Sorry I try it but i got stuck

[mental aspen]

Ty, that’s good, but not as ‘scientific’ as I want

[runic aspen]

this is how my AI teammates react to me causing warcrimes on a national level

[runic aspen]

I know it I got stuck

Sorry for that

[runic aspen]

for the use a calculator, use a pen and book, note down the time of arrival of a bullet to the body then create a board of analytics. or just look up on google ig

[mortal trench]

I think I do

[pliant briar]

schizophrenia confirmed

[marble spruce]

real

[runic aspen]

who isnt??

I am become schizophrenia, destroyer of worlds

[pliant briar]

technically it would be creator of worlds

[runic aspen]

Don’t ruin the moment

[little hawk]

🤣🤣

[naive aurora]

🚬

[runic aspen]

I got stuck please understand

[autumn cypress]

Wait, ya folks don't have telemetry for this ? 😮

[naive aurora]

Hi guys

[pliant briar]

do you have any privacy policy before starting the game? no, so they don't

[little hawk]

Makes sense.

[rigid bone]

Nope, we actually don't.

[smoky crest]

Based

[little hawk]

User feedback is the telemetry

[rigid bone]

The only info we get directly from the game is crash dumps that people provide when they press the funny button

[red jay]

time for big surveys that are like 50 questions long

[pliant briar]

1. do you play ready or not?

[rigid bone]

Unironically that might not be a bad idea

[pliant briar]

and make sure it's unskippable

[fringe scroll]

Cool tests "what lspd operator are you?"

[smoky crest]

On a scale from 1-5 how much do you enjoy playing with the bandage bazooka

[pliant briar]

it would be like after action report but in a ron way

[carmine rapids]

why are the swat so short

[little hawk]

should we nerf the SA58 so it acts like any other rifle

[fringe scroll]

[pliant briar]

because maps have weird scaling

[smoky crest]

Cringe! FAL on top!

[little hawk]

🤣

[carmine rapids]

4'8 midgets

[rigid bone]

No, fuck you.

[smoky crest]

FAL DROPS THE BAD GUYS

[little hawk]

Well at least we know it'll never get nerfed as long as he's a CM. So if he gets fired or leave RIP

[pliant briar]

it already sucks as is

[little hawk]

Or user error

[red jay]

...and other lies you can tell on the internet

[carmine rapids]

anyone from mars wanna play ron?

[smoky crest]

Skill issue

[pliant briar]

is that in california?

or ummm, west coast?

[smoky crest]

.308 go bang

7.62x51

[carmine rapids]

vietnam tunnel rat dlc when?

[quaint nebula]

don't we have rust belt already?

[carmine rapids]

not vietnam enough

[little hawk]

Are you talking about what was said earlier?

[odd badger]

SA58 too good 👉👈

[keen ocean]

i removed all the pistol mags on my officers but they were still able to shoot with it even when there was no ammo

[molten quail]

Hello, is ready or not true fps? How is the setup looking like?

i saw some dev say something about they use 2 meshes(1 for the arms, 1 for the 3P) but they occupy the same spot but im still confused

like how do you achieve that

[pliant briar]

if you mean if first person matches the third person, then no

[rigid bone]

Literally development magic, certain meshes are invisible to certain POVs

[red jay]

haha, you'd be hard pressed to find a game that's 1-1 "true FPS"

the only one I can think of is Arma

what you see is what you get, both in 1st and 3rd, shitty animations and sway and all

[little hawk]

Overall jank

Reforger flight model is a joke

[runic aspen]

arma is shit tbh

[mortal trench]

most FPS games have a 1P and 3P mesh with different animation sets

[red jay]

🤷 it's definitely a mood

[runic aspen]

im crying rn entry team has killed 1 of the 12 rogue federal agents (arrested the other 11) and successfully dissolved a hostage situation with 0 neglectful deaths and i get an A+

they desperately need to change score calculations

[molten quail]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2nBFddSYmgk&t=71s does ready or not have a seperate anim for 3rd person and 1st person view?

[runic aspen]

idk bro, like despite all the gameplay inaccuracies just the servers are complete shit and the game functionally does not work

[mortal trench]

not sure, not an expert in that, I just know most games do

I mean for 1P you only have to animate the hands and arms

while 3P is a whole body interaction and animation blending

[cosmic herald]

it would be cool if someone made a mod based on censoring faces

[quick stone]

Being a smaller target is a tactical advantage

[red jay]

true, you aren't playing Arma for a "polished experience" though, the jank is just the barrier to entry

nothing else has the scale, simple as

[cosmic herald]

would be cool combined with a bodycam mod

[little hawk]

True... the flight model is just plain awful though. Biggest turn off because I wanna fly🥲

[fallen sail]

Are the choppers that bad in reforger?

[little hawk]

If you bought the game to be a pilot main yea you're going to be disappointed. It sucks and overall way too arcadey imo. I refunded after playing for a bit.

Even squads flight model for helicopters is better... that's not saying much.

At the time they didn't have joystick support. I'm not sure about now but I've seen clips of recent gameplay and looks the same as I left.

[rigid bone]

There really are only a few and the ones that are close to 1:1 are bad

See: Trespasser
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OSDa4VZbJzI

[little hawk]

5 mins into it and already see noodle arms

[rigid bone]

It's giga jank

[mortal trench]

omg now I get ads in youtube embeds wtf

[little hawk]

Dinos and deagle tho

[mortal trench]

damn this looks so cool

also neat usage of fog to hide low distant LODs

[simple epoch]

isn't GB true fps?

[mortal trench]

Arma series
DayZ
Ground Branch

[rich tendon]

floor stick 🤢

[random pine]

Yeah but I don't think it actually adds anything to the experience

[mortal trench]

that's odd cuz it was a choice specifically made

[fallen sail]

Craziest part about this is that this is 98

[keen steeple]

moving RoN to my SSD, upgrading RAM to 32gb, repasting my cpu and cleaning my pc is the BEST thing ive done to 50x boost my performance lol

[rich tendon]

i wasnt even alive yet

[fallen sail]

Physics based hands and objects half a decade before half life 2

[keen steeple]

who said that ur alive now? XD

[trail breach]

im at twisted nerves and i feel like the lat ai doesnt spazn in

[rich tendon]

wha

[fallen sail]

physics based dinos too

[trail breach]

im at twisted nerves and i feel like the lat ai doesnt spazn in

Im at twisted nerves and i cant coplete the resceu civilian i went over the map for 50 min and nothing

[autumn halo]

Hey, is there any evidence in the locker from the home invasion dlc ?

[mortal trench]

you disappoint me for not knowing this thru mgs1

[fallen sail]

whart

[runic aspen]

Ewww did you fart bro

[fringe scroll]

Say goodbye

[runic aspen]

You sussybaka

[trail breach]

at twisted nerves i cant find the last civ pls help

[fringe scroll]

[trail breach]

?

like i did al mision but the civ one ios stil not finished and i looked arround the map for 50 min and i couldnt find him

at twisted nerves i cant find the last civ pls help
like i did al mision but the civ one ios stil not finished and i looked arround the map for 50 min and i couldnt find him

[little hawk]

Sometimes behind a stupid door where it's easy to miss, I've seen them in the alleyways as well. I think one time I've seen them near the laundromat that probably ran off there. They don't spawn there but maybe ran out idk... that map can be a pain to find civs.

[rich tendon]

what

[trail breach]

;qybe

maybe

[plucky dirge]

time to mod discord

[compact badger]

anyone feel like the headcam is super pixelated now?

is there a way to fix that?

[zinc robin]

Hi

[hasty rune]

gg

[mortal trench]

time to beat you with a frying pan

[regal grotto]

Can I self promote in Ron media?

Oh, what about game clips?

[patent condor]

my sister listens to boyfriend beats you with frying pan asmr

[mighty totem]

gang...how do we feel about amber phospher for NVGs?

[hasty rune]

help me guys how open a flashlight for the light gun??

[patent condor]

white phosphor is the only one ill ever use

[mighty totem]

why is that?

[plucky dirge]

what did i do?

[zinc robin]

Guys, I can't verify my supporter version code. Can't send message to bot

[patent condor]

cause its goated ive used amber and green phos in insurgency idk how it looks in RoN but i have a feeling still not better than white phos

[mortal trench]

miata cute

[little hawk]

Don't tell me he wasted 200 dollars on you know what....

[mortal trench]

[zinc robin]

https://tenor.com/view/seriously-seriously-cat-cat-really-cat-really-look-cat-look-gif-22182662

[mighty totem]

I have the wildest collection of stickers

[plucky dirge]

110 ackshually

[patent condor]

i bet i could swap a miata engine with a Wärtsilä RT-flex96C

[plucky dirge]

and its not really a waste if you KNOW what you're paying for. Its literally called a SUPPORTER edition

[little hawk]

Goober I'm talking about the guy who's selling a code for 200 in 2024. So ackshually🥸🥸

[keen steeple]

What other games do yall like playing

[mortal trench]

tetris

[patent condor]

i sat down yesterday and played roblox for 6 hours

[mighty totem]

Battlefield 2042
GT7
uhh Onward
JFK reloaded
Hitman

[keen steeple]

Fair enough, i do that sometimes

[keen steeple]

Hitman is a shout, battlefield is dead, and idk the other 3 games

[mighty totem]

battlefield is not dead, and JFK reloaded you play as Lee Harvey Oswald

[patent condor]

maybe it has to do with where you live but 2042 is not dead brother

[mighty totem]

far from it actually

[plucky dirge]

you think the dude's selling it?

if thats the case he's probably scamming then lol

[keen steeple]

Interesting. I was just assuming since its been out for a while now

[patent condor]

yeah ea managed to pull a ubisoft and make the game good 2 years later after it released and now theyre teasing the next battlefield in the ceo earnings call where theyre gonna do the same thing before i play the next battlefield im gonna play the new delta force hawk ops game

[little hawk]

Hell if I know it could be legit it could not also be. But that much is just borderline brain dead to buy. Some poor soul will find out eventually.

[keen steeple]

So 2042 has a few months left to survive basically

[mighty totem]

Battlefield 1 servers are also still fairly active

[patent condor]

yeah pretty much because the pc alpha for delta force hawk ops which looks fun its f2p is coming out august 6th and thatll for once give BF a competitor people care about somewhat

[patent condor]

and also full of hackers i got it once a little while ago and got nothing but servers of hackers

[red jay]

the whole "give DICE/EA money because 2042 is good now after multiple years" isn't conclusive to making the next game actually good

because they'll just do the same underbaked shit and then fix it post-hoc because they know people will forgive them for "fixing it"

[daring palm]

Sad part about being a RoN middle eastern player that you can’t play multiplayer

[patent condor]

fr thats why i wanna play delta force hawk ops so bad it looks fun its free and doesnt come with the triple a or in ubisofts eyes the quadruple a "quality" baggage nowadays

[red jay]

ah yes I'm sure that a "free" game will be sure to be respectful to it's playerbase and not implement weird P2W stuff

[patent condor]

better than a billion dollar company making its players spend nearly a hundred dollars for copy paste shit and then still expects them to buy more and more in cosmetics and bull shit

[red jay]

isn't modern AAA cool?

[patent condor]

so fun yeah

[little hawk]

I spent 90 dollars just to preoder an expansion on a hot pile shit of a game...

fuck where'd I put my clown makeup at

[mighty totem]

It was my week to have it

[little hawk]

Can I have back plz 👉👈 I don't feel like stealing from Walmart again.

[mighty totem]

of course

[molten quail]

how do the 3rd person reload animations work? Do you have 2 seperate animations both for 1p and 3p?

or you play a simplified & adjusted version of the same animation on the 3rd person mesh then you play the original one on the 1p mesh?

[rigid bone]

More or less two separate animations

[modest fern]

What about three separate animations

[sour gate]

FYI for those in the EU https://eci.ec.europa.eu/045/public/#/screen/home
This initiative calls to require publishers that sell or license videogames to consumers in the European Union (or related features and assets sold for videogames they operate) to leave said videogames in a functional (playable) state.

To be successful, a European citizens' initiative has to reach one million statements of support as well as minimum thresholds in at least 7 countries.

[red jay]

based, can't wait for all companies to leave the EU because it's cheaper than running servers indefinitely

[quick stone]

Well what counts as functional tho?

[runic aspen]

if search and secure is active does that mean all suspects are down

[sour gate]

Most likely they would give the hosting tools to others

[quick stone]

I guess as long as there's some form of singleplayer it doesn't really matter

[red jay]

see guys we were merely "renting" servers from a 3rd party that is no longer in business, our game is functional, blame the other guys

[runic aspen]

why here

[sour gate]

https://youtu.be/mkMe9MxxZiI

[rigid bone]

That's far too big of a market to leave. If Apple was forced to change, then they can force anyone to change

[sour gate]

No other appropriate channel on this server

[red jay]

apple be like: "haha we're going wireless charging now, fuck you idiots"

proprietary wireless charging pad time

[rigid bone]

Naw, the EU forced them to use USB-C

[red jay]

wireless IS coming, because it'll allow apple to completely lock out connections to the phone

[sour gate]

Jup usb c iphones and other mobile devices

[red jay]

Oh what's that? You wanted to put the phone into developer mode and try and transfer off data? "lol" "lmao"

[sour gate]

You guys wanna know how it started for usb c?

[runic aspen]

that's because apple sucks

[rigid bone]

Apple bad

[modest fern]

You forget the 3rd option

These companies will 100% risk vs reward decide if taking the fine is better than supporting the game

[runic aspen]

burner cells so you can act cool and mysterious?

[modest fern]

And I think they'll find that it'll be cheaper to put the fine into their annual budget

[quick stone]

Wouldn't even surprise me if that will genuinely be what they'll do

[sour gate]

Well one of the eu fines is % income per year for every year until fixed

[modest fern]

Pretty sure most major publishers already put aside money to deal with fines automaticalyl

[mortal trench]

"oh sure here guys take this server software that only runs on an high end AWS threadripper cluster node, have fun trying to use it, also have fun setting up matchmaking on your custom backend"

[modest fern]

or maybe that's just a big company thing in general

[sour gate]

Well this eu subbmition thing is to get the offical eu parlament talks started on it

[modest fern]

ahem

censor evasion

[sour gate]

This vid and some of the past vids are interesting

[mortal trench]

@red jay

[red jay]

please commit seppuku customer -john dollar bill corporate

[mortal trench]

mods ban MMMM for offending the whole server

[sour gate]

Sorry thats only available in japan

[red jay]

ron wont even let me say self delete or mentally incompetent smh

why yes our game has suicide bombers in it, why no you can't say the word suicide in discord

(this randomly works for me now but I know it still doesn't for other people, guessing bot is weird)

[mortal trench]

I wonder what would happen if steam decides to turn off their online subsystem

[red jay]

gabe newell is gonna get the authentic french monarch experience

[mortal trench]

sure, but I mean more like if some law of this sort gets passed someday, I mean who would be liable then to pay up to make smth work again without steams online subsystem

[red jay]

erm, that sounds like a problem for future EU, not current EU

[molten quail]

doesnt the eu have some other bigger problems rn?

[frank mist]

prob playable

[red jay]

just imagine a big asterisk over everything anybody does with

*as long as life as we know it doesn't end

[runic aspen]

Northern neighbour's or degrading economy

[frank mist]

fire, ty

[mortal trench]

[runic aspen]

or the fucking french

[rigid bone]

French.

[mortal trench]

oui oui

[plucky dirge]

im going to spill your drink

[mortal trench]

oh noo

[sour gate]

No probs just trying to get it more visable and potentially everyone who plays games in the future eu might be better off

[plucky dirge]

i hate you

[mortal trench]

do you also want some strawberry milk?

[plucky dirge]

yes, but you wouldnt give me any

you'd say something like, hah too bad

[frank mist]

ubisoft be moving in their grave when seeing that

it started yesterday?

[sour gate]

Well they are located in france and the thing with the crew more or less stadted it or accelerated it

[sour gate]

Officially yes for the eu people but that battle has been going on for if I am not mistaken for like 2 or 3 years

[frank mist]

oh alr bet

[runic aspen]

🤮

[sour gate]

You can go and watch the vid I sent before it has more simple info

[runic aspen]

French people stink literally everyone else had way better Olympic openings

[cinder marsh]

Why cant I start the game

It just says "corrupt data found: Please verify your installation"

[runic aspen]

did you verify your installation

[cinder marsh]

yes

i also deleted and reinstalled the game

deleted all my mods

and uninstalled reshade

and it wont work

[sour gate]

Can you elaborate?

I am trying to understand why based?

But thats only a recent thing. Why bunch of old games still work ? Now singleplayer games require internet and just stop working, but people have hacked fixes for it.
Older mp games still work since the comunity modified to work but the companies doesn't like that.

[modest fern]

46k out of 1mil signatures is rough

[sour gate]

Depending on the context and most people and including myself have see text more negative then the person who sent it

[pliant briar]

if singleplayer game requires internet access, it's most likely a "hidden" anti-piracy measure

[sour gate]

46k in one day

[modest fern]

I swear I've seen this prior to just yesterday

Or something like this

[sour gate]

Yeah but most people I know its the opposite

To be exact the people who are more into politics and see the word based it means opposite of your views and they go into denial

[pliant briar]

probably because it's fairly often used in a context where someone did something bad, but the fact they did it is "based", even if it's bad

[long bolt]

why are we talking about the fr*nch

[pliant briar]

yeah, scrap that. definitely not it...

[pliant briar]

ubisoft

[modest fern]

https://tenor.com/view/based-based-on-what-kiryu-yakuza-ryu-ga-gotoku-gif-832955247859146453

[long bolt]

gross

those are stinky though

[pliant briar]

at least they still make singleplayer games

[long bolt]

i would care if they were good games, but they aren't

[sour gate]

Well english is my second language and I understand its actual meaning but the ones who I mentioned are located in usa

So you might be correct

[pliant briar]

they are objectively good though?

[patent condor]

hate ubisoft with a passion but i love the crew 2 and i FUCKING hate siege but ill never stop playing it

[silent wharf]

can someone please tell me where is the crystal storage room is in 213?

[undone matrix]

3.5 years before they'll pull The Crew 2 also down

Ubisoft have proven themselves to be just as bad as EA

[pliant briar]

makes sense, there's this tendency of native english speakers to wash the original meaning of words, so in practice one word means 10 different things (good luck everyone)

[patent condor]

thats a long time for a game thats been out for a while now and still looks great and all triple a studios are bad ACT UBI and EA

[undone matrix]

Still. It's stupid. If you paid for it, you should be allowed to play it. The fact you can't even play The Crew in singleplayer is just stupid. Honestly, if there's a way to pirate The Crew successfully, people should do that. Not sure if you can buy it anyway anymore

[sour gate]

Then immage your money spent on the skins and character unlocks beeing wiped.
Is the game a product or a service?
Does it have a stated experation date?
Now if you wanted to play it years later after it closed but couldn't but with this you could if it passes

[silent wharf]

please! iv been looking for it for an hour😭

[pliant briar]

i really don't get it why it's bad that a company decided to kill an exclusively online game. was it a well explained fact that this game is online only when you bought it?

[vagrant raft]

anyone wanna play duos

[pliant briar]

because i don't think anyone genuinely thinks online games will run forever

[stark scaffold]

Even though Ubisoft’s actions are scummy, let’s not mention piracy please.

[frank mist]

Intel lawsuit may be coming soon lmao

[patent condor]

i a hundred and ten percent agree besides the piracy we had a whole convo on triple a earlier

[sour gate]

In my language one word is for a hall, grass and drugs. Depending on the context it means one of the 3 things

[pliant briar]

i assume you skipped the morning (in my timezone) talk about piracy?

[frank mist]

Bro wasnt here in the morning

[patent condor]

it happens damn near every year with call of duty why are you complaining when its been happening i never said i agreed with it like i said i fucking hate ubi but i still love their games no matter if some people think they suck or not i enjoy games

[frank mist]

Remember the faulty 13-14th gen cpus? They are faulty due to oxidation manufacturing issues, and they arent recalling them

[stark scaffold]

I wake up rather late, didn’t know there was a whole convo, will look back on it.

[undone matrix]

I get it, I don't mean it in the old fashioned way though. Some games become freeware after a while, when they are taken out of the market and are allowed to be "pirated" like the old old Tony Hawk Games. I just hope that The Crew also becomes considered freeware in a few years. It's really scummy that a company can just pull something off. Hope the lawfare takes off in Europe against Ubisoft 👀

[pliant briar]

but you can probably replace it under warranty

[undone matrix]

I'm not sure exactly if it's called freeware or has another name. Something with public software I think

[long bolt]

THUGPRO my beloved

[undone matrix]

THUG Pro, I love it 🔥

[frank mist]

Considering intel's gaming pad's customer support looked for nonexistent damages so the warranty is voided idk ab that

[long bolt]

🤝

[frank mist]

Idk how it was named, the switch like one

[pliant briar]

it doesn't matter what mechanical damages it would have if it didn't have any effect on the oxidation (safe to assume it didn't)

[frank mist]

I hope so, tho amd recalled all their cpus due to labeling issues and intel doesnt even do it when their cpus barely function

The only reason amd delayed the new gen cpu's release is because they were labeled as the last gen ones or smth, and they recalled em all

[pliant briar]

they weren't shipped to any end users yet, so that simplifies the process A LOT

[frank mist]

Yeah, tho the mistake was hundreds of times less important than intel's lmao

I mean it was pretty important too people couldve gotten scammed

But its nowhere close to intel's issue

Tho we just have to wait and sse

[pliant briar]

speaking of that, though completely off topic, i hope the shoes that will arrive tomorrow will be in the right size. took them 4 days to even send it

[frank mist]

What shoes

[pliant briar]

cycling ones

[frank mist]

I mean if you bought em from some nice site they may aswell

Tho mistakes always happen especially nowadays

[frank mist]

Oh nice

[pliant briar]

it's safe enough, i would assume it's just not a big shop though

[frank mist]

Some guy ordered some shoes off of amazon and got an office chair

Tho it was 10 times the value he took it

[long acorn]

Paris is the safest its ever been

[pliant briar]

im way too used to next day delivery smh

[long acorn]

alright florida man

[frank mist]

I mean, smaller, less orders, more time to focus on each order, less mistakes

[pliant briar]

not cool, but the fact that no one noticed is even crazier

[frank mist]

Unless there is 1 guy handling 1000 orders

[frank mist]

I mean the driver was already gone lmao, it was the one you build up by pieces, so the box was around the same size a shoe box would be

A bit bigger tho it didnt seem like a whole chair

Yk sometimes the packaging is bigger since they add random things to go w it

[pliant briar]

i definitely won't get a chair, wouldn't fit into a parcel locker

[frank mist]

Fr

You are getting a rtx 5090 ti super 🗣️

That would fit inside

[pliant briar]

the box size should be similar, yeah

[frank mist]

Ngl i wonder by what % the 5090 will be better than the 4090

Imagine its like 20-40% and the price is like triple

[pliant briar]

20-40% is not that much with what nvidia has been accustoming us to lately

3090 - 4090 was like double im pretty sure?

probably inflated with some DLSS 3 frame gen garbage, but still

[frank mist]

80%

Tho double the 4090's power seems pricy af

[autumn cypress]

4090 was quite high but that's the outlier, the rest of the lineup stacked somewhat normally against the previous gen.

Just that RTX20 series sucked hard compared to GTX10 with miniscule average perf upgrade.

[frank mist]

1080 ti was peak

[cosmic bolt]

so in single player i cant unlock the 4th map

the second map even when cleared doesnt show my score

tried even on safe mode

[arctic peak]

Do you have any non base game .PAK files in the Paks folder?

[rigid bone]

RTX 30 series is and will be king unless the 50 series does something special

[frank mist]

Fr

Also did you guys hear about the beef w venezuela's president and elon musk?

[autumn cypress]

600W power spikes and blown out power stages disagree

[rigid bone]

It's fiiiiiine, just have 700w PSUs

[frank mist]

I didnt hear anyone complain ab that ngl

[autumn cypress]

Tell that to a tech support guy.. oh wait..

[frank mist]

😭

Tho its not the whole 30 series, right? RIGHT?

[autumn cypress]

Mkay, what about the cards blowing up then ? That ain't PSUs fault

[rigid bone]

Shhhhhhhh

[autumn cypress]

3080 upwards, search for terms like "New World" and "but it's only in THIS game"

[runic aspen]

Hey guys, do i fail my hermit achivement if i send a officer to therapy?

[frank mist]

Oh ok so i can buy 3060 my beloved 🙏