💬general-discussion

[dense venture]

if u think thats an advantage your a dirty commie

[quartz plover]

I mean

[slender forum]

hi

[candid dragon]

bro im also living in SEA

[runic aspen]

twitter showing me the weirdest fucking videos ever i saw a dude getting fucked by spongebob

[dawn breach]

Excuse me

[abstract condor]

Wtf

[runic aspen]

its a shitpost not a dude literally getting fucked by spongebob

Can someone recommend a decent microphone for ~$100?

[vagrant laurel]

Blue Yeti

[dawn breach]

Awww what a letdown

[fast flame]

[runic aspen]

I was actually already looking at that one, it’s on sale so I’ll snag it ASAP. Thanks

[vagrant laurel]

I might be biased because it's the mic I've been using for like almost a decade now.

Definitely a long enough span of time for the market to change, but it hits the criteria of "about $100" and "decent enough for me to use it".

I tried tossing it into Google and came across a reddit thread with a really eye-catching title like "PSA the Blue Yeti SUCKS" but when I actually read the post they were talking about how they used one for streaming and it was picking up all the ambient sounds in their house?

Like, the purpose of a microphone is to capture sound, no? How's it the mic's fault if you're recording in a noisy space? Strange.

[vast summit]

is there new update

[nimble marsh]

what is the update exactly?

[vast summit]

they added sex

[nimble marsh]

800mb update, not 56gb. That is just what will be the end result of your disk space being taken with the whole game iirc

[runic aspen]

the gyatt update will be 69gb

it's an average size for an update

[snow bramble]

RoN sex update

[runic aspen]

it will include exclusive mustache rides from eli

irl, he will come to your house in the middle of the night for it

[narrow bridge]

just buy shitty 50$ headphones at a local tech store

muh audio quality and fidelity!!!

its fine, theres nothing wrong with the audio or mic, just acquire adobe audition and tweak it a little if its too bad, ive had 10$ headphones for 6 years untill i got new 50$ ones, they work

[midnight vine]

i kiss you void for adding turkish thank you

[abstract condor]

No patch notes yet, but some say it's just audio fix according to steamdb

[midnight vine]

why is it 56gb

if its a small audio fix

[abstract condor]

It's a 600 mb update not 56 gb

[midnight vine]

oh i see

[abstract condor]

56 gb is installation

[candid dragon]

man im tired of installing and reinstalling the god damn game after every update

i got 20gb left and steam keeps saying not enough disk space ffs

[snow bramble]

💪 🇹🇷 🐺

[midnight vine]

🇹🇷 🇹🇷 🇹🇷 🐺 🐺 🐺 🐺

[abstract condor]

Bruh, I'd rather if they focused on important issues then some localization stuff

[midnight vine]

fr tho

[rare imp]

They are

[buoyant mantle]

Different teams

[indigo mural]

is there a way to cancel reload

cuz im reloading and they push me, i cant stop reloading

[runic aspen]

if there was an sex update for ron it'll probably be a drunken night with judge in the neon nightclub

[keen stream]

Holy shit add sprint to the game this is bullshit. No one would casually walk away while getting shot at

[mortal trench]

use cover

and don't stay in the open

[fleet escarp]

how would you cancel it in real life? Like you put a clip out of your rifle, what you mean cancel

[stoic sedge]

Just press space and lower your gun

or use lighter armour - all helps move faster if its frustrating

[indigo mural]

shotugn reload

[fleet escarp]

hmm afaik you can press R twice to get it load only one round, but not completely sure, gotta try

at least you can press R in rifles/pistols to reload faster because you will throw the mag out, but for shotgun I believe it should load only one round

but don't remember any way to just stop it

[fringe scroll]

Singular shell reload is way too slow if you're out of ammo in the gun. At least for my taste

[warm cedar]

i agree that sprint would be a neat addition

[fringe scroll]

Add sliding while you're at it

Maybe grappling hook too

[indigo mural]

does the mission autocomplete if you get an S

[worthy dome]

finally beat greased palms with an A, only took me like 2 weeks lmao

[rare imp]

It doesn’t need to be an S, but yes

As long as all people and evidence is secure it will autocomplete

[indigo mural]

oh my god

istg its always 1 gun

[mental zinc]

I noticed that some players had access to gas masks that I didn't have. Is it because they bought the supporter version of the game?

[runic aspen]

do yall go butt naked no armor no helmet in 4u gas station or is it just me

[fringe scroll]

Those might be gasmask skins for passing Relapse level (i think) on a high rank

[old snow]

yo how many soft objects are on port

[mental zinc]

even with customization unlocker I can't seem to get it, so I don't know

[maiden zodiac]

[granite valley]

it doesn't say "exclusive to supporter edition" (like it does for the Fisa Vest for example) for me but i haven't seen anyone wear them who didn't own the supporter edition so i guess it is an exclusive too

[dry obsidian]

damn I tried to post feedback yesterday but it got filtered

[solar cedar]

hi, is anyone here really good at teaching CQB and breaching, i would love to learn it well because im not the best at it rn.

Im not new to RON but i find an issue where i die a lot when entering a building

[midnight vine]

just peek the door and check if its dangerous

[solar cedar]

that doesnt really help

[midnight vine]

and check every corner of the room because they might hide

use steel armor too

actually the ai is absolutely insane so my advice is get an ai mod from nexus mods

[old snow]

riot shield

full coverage, heavy armor, steel

[solar cedar]

i dont use RS

[old snow]

balistic facemask

[iron cove]

So they finally patching the AI? Steam update says hotfix 3/4 will do so. Lets hope to god John Wick and Agent 47 get taken off the enemy

[old snow]

then start.

[old snow]

they gon add chuck noris fr

[iron cove]

😄

[old snow]

they really need to give us the restart button back

[blazing pulsar]

There is

[feral zodiac]

its called practice mode. it has the quick restart

[old snow]

i aint practicing

[feral zodiac]

well then I don't see the problem. you read the message coming into commander mode 😄

[fallen sail]

Ignore the name, it's genuienly just the better way to play the game

[runic aspen]

holy fuck shaw from the hit video game need for speed heat

[fallen sail]

literally me

[fallen sail]

Commander mode is essentially VOID playing SWAT 3 and Rainbow Six 3 and missing the point of the roster and pre-planning systems, not fun

[steep grotto]

yall be saying the dorkiest shit on here bro lol.

[fallen sail]

🤨

[steep grotto]

i didnt stutter

[feral zodiac]

I get it. but its just that the time in mission doesnt match up with the pre-mission phase. (unless you do pretty well)
(compare it to how x-com games are paced)

[arctic nimbus]

New performance issues / fps drops after today’s hotfix anyone? Game feels off

[steep grotto]

you guys need to stopppp. the game is not finished. there is no solution for better FPS. Please go away

[old snow]

there is tho

a better pc and patience

[steep grotto]

factssssss

[blazing pulsar]

https://www.reddit.com/r/ReadyOrNotGame/comments/190vxu6/comment/kgqx61h/ try this

[marsh terrace]

still no patch notes for the recent update?

[rugged pine]

[zealous raven]

Is this game ez or hard?

[hybrid notch]

hard

pretty hard

[zealous raven]

Bet is solo

Omg 623hr ur record of ur game

[old snow]

omfg i love getting shot thru cars which i cant shoot thru

[zealous raven]

?

[frosty grotto]

my game is updating, anyone else?

[zealous raven]

Yes same here

[idle sandal]

Yo nobody has any idea the scroll wheel exists im surprised companies still make discords

[zealous raven]

?

[idle sandal]

Came back for answers and its just people asking the same question 7-8 hours later like copy paste lol

[stiff dune]

hey guys, does anyne know how can i give my operators a break?

[steep grotto]

life is too fast for a scroll wheel

[steep grotto]

switch them out

[stiff dune]

i opened the tablet but i cant seem to find how to select the operators

[zealous raven]

Is practice mode

[steep grotto]

click one then click the guy you wanna switch with

[idle sandal]

the Hold TAB menu where you view your roster, therapy.

[slow nacelle]

💀

[zealous raven]

Play commander mode

[stiff dune]

how i need to hold, thanks!

[idle sandal]

Also a tip if you want ironman, close/crash your game before you load out

[topaz locust]

öhm did a new update come out? i came from school and had 13 gb to download

[slow nacelle]

shadow patch to fix stuff from hotfix 2

[topaz locust]

a very handsome man already did a guide for that https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3114442441
i really like this dude

[topaz locust]

ah gotcha thanks

[idle sandal]

XD its such an old trick many old gamers should know it

[topaz locust]

yees 😄 i had my first officer dying in the Forrest level with the traps and was like yea no if this doesnt work i go and scream into the mountains

[runic aspen]

Why not just go scream into the mountains anyway? That sounds nice

[dreamy marsh]

why does ready or not break its install everytime theres an update

[topaz locust]

need to wait a little longer then i got a house atsome nice mountains in a cozy Town

[slate coral]

Does the mental condition of my little piggies even matter

Need answers they keep hitting their limits

[topaz locust]

yesnt they might quite if you kill too many people

[runic aspen]

Sometimes you just need to go outside and verbally abuse a tree

[slate coral]

Yeah but I can just replace the weak and cowardly

[topaz locust]

yes

[slow nacelle]

@midnight vine amd graphics card better value for money

[slate coral]

So what's really the issue with keeping them stressed

[slow nacelle]

survival of the fittest

[runic aspen]

they cant handle the truth

[topaz locust]

nothing you dont get the ironman acheivemtn but thats it

[midnight vine]

aight thx

[slate coral]

You think a shmuck like me is playing ironman

[old snow]

i love how ai snaps to my squadmates, then the second it sees me it snaps onto me and headshots me instantly.

[slate coral]

I just spent 2 weeks trying to even pass C rank on health house

[slow nacelle]

dude u gotta lock in

[topaz locust]

you mean valley of dolls?

[slate coral]

Sure

[slow nacelle]

i think my best is A+ or S for health house

[slate coral]

I checked a tier list and apparently some people think greased palms is harder than health house

[topaz locust]

took me around 3 hours then i had S

[slow nacelle]

worst mission is brisa cove

[old snow]

for me the car dealership was crazy hard

[midnight vine]

why is people even struggling there its so easy lmao

[slate coral]

Yeah I found that I was doing really well until I got impatient and got sniped by a guy I couldn't have possibly seen

[old snow]

nah its super easy if you know how to do it

[slow nacelle]

me when i just want to open a door and get annihiliated by a 30 megaton nuke trap

[slate coral]

Like behind that white staircase or turning into a room which I'd searched 50 times where somebody is now hiding

[topaz locust]

the part where you go outside from back is hard

[slate coral]

Thank god there aren't traps on health house that would make it unplayable

[old snow]

i did it in like 5 tries

[slow nacelle]

im used to it now but as a newbie i was like wtf

[midnight vine]

you mean the garden?

[slow nacelle]

u can clear the garden from the upstairs of the house bro

[topaz locust]

yesnt i mean the Room before where people shoot through the windows but ypou cant bc you only got a beanbag shotgun

[old snow]

honestly the missions that were before 1.0 are now harder than the new ones

[slow nacelle]

this

[midnight vine]

oh mb

[slate coral]

Meth house raid used to be basically impossible before 1.0 from what I remember

[topaz locust]

i need 2 more then igot s on all levels! i played the mapsso often i go insane

[slate coral]

FUck I've been afked on elephant for like 30 minutes

[slow nacelle]

how have you not been exploded

[topaz locust]

rip students

[slow nacelle]

bro is sat outside waiting

[midnight vine]

a random guy who entered our lobby yesterday literally arrested us we cant move is this a mod or something

[old snow]

the park homes? it was so easy, just harder without nvgs

[slow nacelle]

i barely even use NVGs anymore

[topaz locust]

on the Mexico and shipment thingy its quite neat

[old snow]

i havent used once and im on port mission

[slow nacelle]

oh i love using nods on port

[frosty grotto]

wtf?

[slate coral]

On barricaded suspects yes

[blazing pulsar]

They could make some maps darker

[midnight vine]

yeah dude i was like able to middle finger lmao

[slate coral]

But on raid there were basically three complexes you had to breach and they were almost always trapped on every single door

[slow nacelle]

or make it so we can change the time of the raids

[frosty grotto]

lol

[blazing pulsar]

Oh I know, had it happen to me too

[midnight vine]

is that a mod

[slow nacelle]

mod moment someone make it so we can change the time

[old snow]

if you die to traps thats a skill issue

[sullen obsidian]

That's litteraly why you can peek doors idk

[slate coral]

Gunfighter Gameplay is probably my favourite mod out there rn

[midnight vine]

yeah but it can conflict with some mods like ai and slots mods

[slate coral]

When every single door is trapped and the map is nothing but doors with 15 methheads behind them each it becomes less of a skill issue

[old snow]

riot shield

[slate coral]

Pretty sure this was pre-riot shield

[wary yoke]

Laser traps that activate a flash bang that can be deactivated via a control panel will be hell

[slate coral]

Yeah true IDK I've just never had an issue with the AI

My only issue is visibility but I think the reaction times are fair

[fringe sphinx]

i'm enjoying the GUNPOWDAH mod better than gunfighter for 1.0

[steep grotto]

this. if i didnt need nvgs in rust tunnels when the FUCK am i supposed to use them.

[fringe sphinx]

https://www.nexusmods.com/readyornot/mods/3157

[midnight vine]

thats nice mod

recommended 10/10

[slate coral]

Never tried it

[feral zodiac]

is it possible to go stealth mode ?

or will 1 silence pistol shot allert the whole map ?

[slate coral]

I'm gonna bet that some edgy teenager is gonna make a map of his school and get arrested for it at least within 2024 in Ready or Not like how it was in CS a decade ago

[slate coral]

Silencers do kinda silence the shots but the other noise you make completely overrides any practicality of going stealthy

[steep grotto]

door stops and silenced smg's should hold u down. pistols as well

[feral zodiac]

xD yeah no way to make civi surrendering beside shouting from the top of your lungs xD

[slow nacelle]

what do you think elephant is

[steep grotto]

it was a silent film about killing people and one scene was in a school

[slow nacelle]

i wasnt being serious

[steep grotto]

ik ik

[slate coral]

Almost any door breach creates an immense amount of noise too and iirc just walking generates enough for an entire room to hear

There probably are mods for this

One of the reaons I enjoy Gunfighter is bc they add the SWAT 4 era sniper to the game so I can practically stealth by never being seen by the enemy

[feral zodiac]

cool might look into it later

[old snow]

oopsie i just killed a civilian

man they gotta run at me in the middle of a fire fight

my hand thinks before me fr

[midnight vine]

oopsie daisy

[old snow]

they fr need to change the wallbang shit cuz i cant even cuff a suspect without getting shot thru 2 walls

[steady fiber]

I had a civ with a vest running at me didnt see it was a civ so i headshot on instince

oops

[old snow]

this game forces you to have fast reaction time but also punishes you for having it

[steady fiber]

sounds just like RL police and swat

[old snow]

ong

[steady fiber]

You have to react fast in these situations heh

Sometimes shit happens

[real haven]

hi all what is the best multiplayer realistic ai mod at the time ?

[old snow]

#🔧modding-chat

[runic aspen]

man its been 9 hours since ive been downloading this game and its still on 11gb

[fringe sphinx]

i've had to restart steam so many times

[runic aspen]

are you downloading the patch?

im redownloading this game because steam would not let me download the new fucking update

[fringe sphinx]

it's been trying to "install" for almost 2 hours

[runic aspen]

Have you been messing with it in that time or just letting it run uninterrupted?

For me it was on 0% for like 20 mins then shot up around 40% and slowly went up a bit every so often

[fringe sphinx]

yeah basically the same. been waiting and restarting on-and-off

9 hours is a lot tho

[runic aspen]

dont restart i think that'll just fuck with it

[runic aspen]

shame

[fringe sphinx]

it seems to get hitches where steam isn't even using the disc. restarting at least seems to get the process moving from 0 bytes/second

[runic aspen]

eh for me i just left it in the background

mine was on 0% and the ETA went up to like a year+ so it disappeared and was just stagnant

i think its still doing stuff in the background even when it says nothing is happening

[fringe sphinx]

yeah i'll probably just leave it....i might have gone from 90% progress back to 0...

:'D

fuck emojis

[runic aspen]

you can turn that off in settings

[fringe sphinx]

ooo ty

[old snow]

OMFG I JSUT KMSD WITH A STINGER

[runic aspen]

settings>app settings> text and images

=)

[old snow]

such a good run wasted

[wanton pier]

F

[runic aspen]

my wifi cant go above 5 fucking mbps bruh

[old snow]

bro u got 5?? be happy i dont even get 2

[runic aspen]

the peak is 5.1 mbps

[fringe sphinx]

this guy still flexin

[fervent palm]

New patch?

[fringe sphinx]

yep

[fervent palm]

Today, around 800 Mb?

[fringe sphinx]

yep

[fervent palm]

Well, 900; and no patch notes out yet?

[fringe sphinx]

nope

[unborn anchor]

the update broke my game

had to uninstall and now I'm reinstalling, so annoying

[silent glen]

hotfix 3?

[fringe sphinx]

broke how?

[empty dove]

most likely cos hotfix 2 was yesterday

[runic aspen]

Hotfix 2 also known as 800mb of nothing

[sand latch]

Anyone Korean here?

pls tag me

[torn heath]

@wispy smelt

frick

[runic aspen]

Anyone play Ready or not on Linux? I've only tested windows but currently ditching windows fully now.

[torn heath]

linux is gay

@earnest crane how is being a dicord moderator

[uncut prairie]

Will RoN be able to be family shared on steam

[runic aspen]

By chance did you get warned for this

[torn heath]

of course

[runic aspen]

Was gonna say, I’ve been warned here for a lot less

[torn heath]

not

[torn heath]

fr what u say

[fringe sphinx]

reckon it's based on reports? pissed-off the wrong furry or something?

[torn heath]

@golden steeple whats ur snap

[runic aspen]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-uncanny-canny-stare-art-gif-17702430052009629225

Gif fail 😭

[silent glen]

They added more death animations i think

[coarse heart]

im pretty sure linux is a bit broken

[runic aspen]

when most people are banned they fall back to the modding server since its slightly more relaxed lol

[silent glen]

I just killed a suspect and they crawled with their hand covering their neck while they were bleeding out lol

[runic aspen]

but i think they are upping the moderation now there aswell

For the game?

[spare perch]

YOOOO AHAHAHHAHA

[coarse heart]

ye

[runic aspen]

Which proton version your using

I'll check it out and see what's up

[coarse heart]

i have window but bassicly everyone on linux is having problems

[vagrant laurel]

Pings like every online moderator, gets muted. Shocker.

[runic aspen]

You think it's mainly cause their steam deck users and not like desktop users

Or is it people running Linux on desktop

[coarse heart]

desktop

[runic aspen]

you boys like asbestos?

[coarse heart]

mightve fixed with last hotfix

[runic aspen]

I see okay I'll take that into account , if I really have too I'll just dual boot windows and cope and seeth and mald

[spare perch]

My guy @torn heath is single just so u know

He also is adept at using terminology familiar to the one you've used.

[coarse heart]

isnt linux the noot noot pinguin as logo

[runic aspen]

XD lol

I'm dead haha yes it's a penguin 🙂 🐧

[quick stone]

Used to watch the cartoon as a kid a lot

[quick stone]

Depends in what form

[vagrant laurel]

I can't bring myself to run Linux as my primary OS, I've just been popping it up in a VM when I need specific utilities.

[coarse heart]

didnt everyone

[quick stone]

I doubt everyone did

[spare perch]

What Linux specific utilities do you need?

[coarse heart]

linux logo is depressed noot noot pengiun

[runic aspen]

I use arch btw 🤓🤓👆🏽

🤣🤣🤣🤣 lmao love saying that

[fringe sphinx]

no idea about pingu until just now. seems like a uk thing?

[gloomy trellis]

does somebody know if void ever adressed the current AI problem (Wallbangs, perfect sight (nighttime), perfect aim, no fear, no reaction to non lethal and so on) ?
I mean is there any info on them working on that or being aware of the situation with that?

[quick stone]

Tf even is that

[runic aspen]

Ifykyk

[vagrant laurel]

Just CySec-related stuff, mostly.

[coarse heart]

nah EU, UK and america i think too

[runic aspen]

exploring the VO files fucking suuucks man

Linux is essential if your a sysadmin or IT in general tbh

[fringe sphinx]

ah. americunt here and i'm ignorant, i guess. par for course

[runic aspen]

I'm just trying to AI gen SWAT4 lines that need to be filled in

[fringe sphinx]

spongebob is all i know

[quick stone]

Damn

[spare perch]

Oh are you sure there's no windows port?

[coarse heart]

💀

[quick stone]

Can't imagine only watching SpongeBob

[coarse heart]

fr

[fringe sphinx]

there's other shows?

[coarse heart]

noot noot penguin was for some reason a show most kids from EU watched

[quick stone]

Oh the slowdown is back to 15 seconds. Why were you guys bad again. 5 seconds slowdown was so nice

[runic aspen]

Because boys are stinky sometimes but not all boys

[quick stone]

I mean just stop motion in general was way more popular in EU than US

[fringe sphinx]

aw hell yeah. wallace and gromit was awesome

[quick stone]

Boys that aren't stinky are just stinky boys with enough not stinky stuff on their skin to hide the stinky

[runic aspen]

I only know noot noot from the memes tbh I never knew it was an actual fucking show holy shit

[fringe sphinx]

weird tho. wonder why pingu was never popular in my ignorant area in the us

[runic aspen]

u guys ever see that lee hardcastle simpsons couch edit and get horrified as a kid

[quick stone]

Wow

[runic aspen]

Based and real

[quick stone]

You missed out on penguin domestic violence

[runic aspen]

I'm YouTubinh this lore

dat time pingu pul the dam DINner off the table HE DAD SO MAD

[quick stone]

Would what?

[runic aspen]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣💀

[vagrant laurel]

Honestly? Not really checking most of the time. It's always one-off command line shit for a CTF challenge or something. I could probably get away with using WSL more, but I do enjoy using my Linux environment, just not enough to go through the trouble of finding hacky workarounds for all the games and stuff that were developed for Windows.

[spare perch]

Games are not supporting Linux anymore, like all of Riot for example

[steady fiber]

who uses linux anyway Windows is more convient

[fringe sphinx]

i just did, too. truly awesome

[runic aspen]

If im honest with you gaming on Linux has basically no issues , unless you use games that have anti heat , to which it's pretty fast and easy to mitigate that

Some games either run better on Linux, or some games get lower fps compared to Windows

[spare perch]

Yea no nobody mitigating Vanguard

[runic aspen]

Really older games maybe might be weird asf , or if your big into modding, some Bethesda games for specific mods might crash on Linux

[spare perch]

Based Anticheats kicking out nerd linux users from the gaming sphere

[fringe sphinx]

was that shit on tv??

[runic aspen]

My only gripe with Linux is there no being nice little GUI for graphics drivers

I like that about the proprietary drivers for Windows

[runic aspen]

No it was a fan made claymation thing its on youtube

[runic aspen]

why not jsut use windows haha learning how to linux nerd

[vagrant laurel]

Big nerds, mostly. I say this lovingly. If you're using Linux you probably know why.

[fringe sphinx]

ah okay. yeah, never saw it as a kid, but if i did, i might still think it was fucken awesome

[runic aspen]

what the hell is up with cholos in thailand

[fringe sphinx]

i thought cholos were mostly half-mexicans

is that a thing that they're travelling to thailand en-masse now?

[runic aspen]

Mostly mexicans but theres like a huge culture of it with Asians

[fringe sphinx]

ohhhh cholo culture in thailand

[formal root]

theyre trying to get bussy

[runic aspen]

I don't knjow if they're actually in gangs most of em but I saw a documentary they're like working class

Because windows is spyware and bloat

But they dress up get the tattoos and lowriders n everything

[fringe sphinx]

oh wut? nice that sounds interesting. what doc?

[runic aspen]

And a backdoor and a whole lot of ugly things I don't agree with , i don't like Microsoft in general

[spare cloak]

i have an update in ron, is this the fix for the isues in the last update?

[formal root]

Thats fine, everything I use is spyware and bloat nowadays 💀

[runic aspen]

Not a proper documentary but if you search it up theres a few couple minute videos on them

[formal root]

No, it fixes some localization issues and some non-important animation bugs

[fringe sphinx]

sry bro, but anything built on 64-bit architecture is the real problem.......

[spare cloak]

ohw..

[runic aspen]

Based and real again

[formal root]

When you update your game it'll say "patching, 50 gb" but dont panic, its just some game file management and it works off your disk, not your internet, it goes fast

[runic aspen]

It'll also get to installing and stay at 0% for fucking ages but just leave it don't touch it it'll finish eventually

[fervent palm]

And here I am wondering when they'll give us the patch notes

[spare cloak]

yess its fixed now, i can play

[formal root]

Good luck

[fringe sphinx]

i lol'd at the search results on youtube for "cholos in thailand"

[spare cloak]

thx!

[runic aspen]

lowriders are pretty big in japan aswell

[fringe sphinx]

very cool. it's hard not to love american muscle cars, at least in theory. i would never own one, but they're wicked powerful and have a lot of cool gangster history back into the prohibition days

most gangsters think alike, it seems

[mossy sentinel]

zoek mensen om missions mee te doen ben al met een vriend van mioj

[formal root]

So true

[mossy sentinel]

voeg me

dan kunnen we spelen

[flat blaze]

Another update?

[runic aspen]

Nothing game changing

[spare cloak]

question, i get an pop-up when i join my mates lobby: You dont have the same mods as the host. what do i need to do, i have an dsi mod

[fervent palm]

But what is it?

[lime pebble]

is using no crack ai technically cheating or do i just get better lol

[spare cloak]

how do i delete this mod, our ingame mods are the same, we downloaded the same mods in mods.io thing on the main screen

[flat blaze]

you could get the same mods or use Server checksum ingame

[spare cloak]

whats that

[flat blaze]

go to your mods and uninstall the DSI one

[spare cloak]

uhh, i go check

[flat blaze]

i can better help you in a call im dutch also btw

[spare cloak]

i did it i think

nice that you are dutch to haha

[vagrant laurel]

The game flags your scores/saves as "unofficial" for modding, but whether that matters is up to you, really.

[runic aspen]

https://link.space/@HG_thekido

[steep grotto]

get better. game isnt THAT hard if you play it as intended

[lime pebble]

aight bet

[ember totem]

I can't get bounce lighting to turn on in the game settings, and I can't find a single image or video about it online. has anyone successfully tried bounce lighting, and if so, how noticeable is it?

[vagrant laurel]

#❗known-issues-and-fixes message
- Settings like bounce light not or reflex not saving when applied.

As for how noticeable it is, I don't know, I can't turn it on lol

[runic aspen]

Whats up gamers

[ember totem]

I am going to try manually setting it to true in the ini file after work, but just curious if anyone has tried that yet.

[pallid eagle]

Bounce Light is turned on and Reflex is Off in the .ini files by default, don't know why it doesn't apply to options

[errant lake]

game is too easy without crack ai

[quasi creek]

ive been able to turn it on and it is noticeable

[fringe sphinx]

others report that it doesn't work. i don't even know if i notice it in-game, so i can't even be sure it works, but mine stays set to true when i change the ini

[fringe sphinx]

ahh i can read now

[ember totem]

Interesting. I might record a test so than I can compare the footage side by side

[fringe sphinx]

that would be the true test

[quasi creek]

ive changed it directly in settings and you can tell directly from shine onto ceiling and nearby walls with flashlight on in dark areas

[fringe sphinx]

and make sure ron.exe doesn't rewrite teh file

[quasi creek]

anyone know whats with the 887 MB update today?

[runic aspen]

Probably a fix for Hide and Seek container

[fringe sphinx]

^best guess

[ember totem]

I was curious about that too. Very strange to see it update without a statement from the devs

[quasi creek]

thats nearly a gig to fix?

[runic aspen]

The patch was most likely small but needs to rewrite 1gb of data in the engine

[ember totem]

I've heard updating unreal engine games can require a large download

[quasi creek]

ah ok

[runic aspen]

Unreal engine 💩

[ember totem]

What do you mean? I am not aware of a container bug, so just curious.

[runic aspen]

In Hotfix 2 you couldn't open the FISA container

Maybe this patch is a quick hotfix for that

[ember totem]

Oh interesting.

[runic aspen]

I haven't checked it myself but that seems the most likely culprit

[tired swift]

random update?

[errant lake]

patch

[tired swift]

ah

[quasi creek]

now im having trouble with the setting staying set to true as well. Weird hadnt noticed that

[fringe sphinx]

oh shit. i forgot i might have set that whole config\windowsnoeditor folder to read-only. if it's not already: try that

mine's still set to true even after i finally booted the game. i didn't have to modify the permissions for the folder further than just read only, but ymmv

[quasi creek]

My .ini file stays set to true but in game the option resets itself to disabled

[uncut prairie]

when will ready or not get family sharing anyone know?

[flint jetty]

so what did the patch do? still no notes

[fringe sphinx]

yeah, weird. it seems to work even though the in-game settings say it's disabled

[late cypress]

never

[steady fiber]

more than likely never

Same with console release, likely never to come

[pearl escarp]

is there a lfg channel here?

[steady fiber]

#🔎looking-for-players

[pearl escarp]

thx

[coarse heart]

wtf is a mile

[nimble marsh]

Is there any reason for the voice lines being bugged. Like, TOC does not say ANYTHING.

[fringe scroll]

He doesn't wanna talk to you

[coarse heart]

yea his tummy hurt

[fringe scroll]

You've been rude

[uncut prairie]

rip

[nimble marsh]

Does it happen to anyone else? My voice lines are vanilla and this whole issue seems to be happening for everyone I am playing with.

[maiden zodiac]

[humble garden]

when i am at melee range my character look like he is blocked and can't shoot, what i am supposed to do

melee him against a knife

[vagrant laurel]

Honestly? Avoid getting too close to things. Your bash is more of a compliance-gaining measure, not fit for combat.

[steady fiber]

Good. TOC deserves all the rudeness and shit he gets, fucking prick

[vagrant laurel]

If you need to do something like restrain a potentially dangerous suspect, you'll want the cover of a teammate.

[scarlet tangle]

how do i get AI teammates in whatever map i want

[steady fiber]

"QuIt ViOlAtInG yOuR rOe "

What ROE. The suspects are all gun ho terrorisits who deserve no mercy

[scarlet tangle]

practice mode doesnt have a bunch of maps

[steady fiber]

Play Practice unlock all maps

You need to beat them in order to unlock them.

[scarlet tangle]

so if i complete missions in practice i unlock maps?

[steady fiber]

Practice, Commander, or Mulitplayer. Do em in order you unlock em

[fringe scroll]

Maybe they're having a bad day. Have you tried giving them a pepsi?

[scarlet tangle]

i honestly dont understand the streamer mission, i thought i was supposed to arrest a dude who shot his mom

why am i getting ambushed by random dudes

[fringe scroll]

Turns out there's an illegal bitcoin farm at the scene and mfs are willing to die for it

[vagrant laurel]

That feeling when you fail the "rescue all civilians" objective because a suspect took a human shield and your AI SWAT officer shoots center mass, though the hostage. Fucking Georgia State Trooper-ass tactics.

[fringe scroll]

[steady fiber]

Nope, die hard gun ho terrorists who deserve no mercy and are willing to die for bitcoin that honeslty has no value and CP...thats it xD

Same with every map. There are no arrests, there is no mercy, there is only shoot to kill and shoot on sight if you see a gun. Dead check everyone too, make sure they dont get up

[scarlet tangle]

thats how i play now

[vagrant laurel]

Would have taken the lead if I knew there was a human shield situation, but it was another room deeper than the one we were clearing through an open door.

[steady fiber]

"But thats unrealistic"

Tis how the devs made it, unrealisitc CoD playstyle is mandatory until the Devs make changes.

[scarlet tangle]

Nope, die hard gun ho terrorists who deserve no mercy and are willing to die for bitcoin that honeslty has no value and CP...thats it xD
that just doesnt sit right

its so stupid how weird random dudes who shouldnt give a shit about us just starts shooting us on site over a server?

i thought it was a hostage kinda situation where i had to rescue his brother or some shit but nah i get popped in the back of the head by some random suicidal dude

[snow bramble]

just another example on the pile of missed potential

[fervent palm]

That suspect AI are all terminators with ESP is something that's been the case for a while now.

It's broken, almost completely at odds with a SWAT game, and actually makes levels less interesting by making everything a shoothouse; but that's what we have.

[steady fiber]

Welcome to RoN. They will kill you over a couple hundred bucks at a Gas Station, or they'l kill you for an entire datacenter linked to CP while their making federal minimum wage to protect it

[steady fiber]

Tis how void made it and wanted their game to be, a shoothouse sim

[scarlet tangle]

ikr like i get its private security and all but imagine swat blowing up a door to search for CP and you decide to die over it

[steady fiber]

but hey, better than MW2023: We promise this aint a Warzone reskin scam for $80

[scarlet tangle]

and the gas station

wtf are they squatting in the place for? like the place is literally empty with a few police trailers, just run why are you getting into a shootout with 5 men armed to the teeth

[steady fiber]

Or anything Ubisoft makes since they dont want gamers to own games xD

[fringe sphinx]

disregard my previous message. bounce light doesn't seem to do anything

[scarlet tangle]

i had a suspect pop me in the head in less than 200ms after getting flashbanged

bro recovered from his animation and popped me faster than my "get down" voice line could finish

[snow bramble]

game is much closer to Clean House from the modern warfare remake than it is to a police simulator

[scarlet tangle]

but nah shoot them first and "unauthorised use of force -200"

[snow bramble]

member when we had different scenarios for the levels?

[fervent palm]

Also.

On a slightly more serious note.

Heightened suspect tension should increase their flight or fight response rather than just making them "braver".

More chance to shoot, but also a greater chance to surrender as tension ramps up (unless they're suicidal, which some suspects are).

[scarlet tangle]

i remember they had a whole really cool section in the hotel mission which is just not there rn

[steady fiber]

Sounds about right, though its kinda 50/50 on if they stay stunned or not. I've gotten them to surrender and stuff due to stingers and Ive had stingers land in a cardboard box and do fuck all while I get domed cause they trained on the door and waited for me to move in

[fossil pasture]

Came here to ask is "Ready or Not" going to go on sale anytime soon?

[steady fiber]

im not even kidding about landing it in the box. I literally died laughing when i saw it

[scarlet tangle]

Heightened suspect tension should increase their flight or fight response rather than just making them "braver".

More chance to shoot, but also a greater chance to surrender as tension ramps up (unless they're suicidal, which some suspects are).

yup thats true, i get a terrorist meaning business as we try to shoot him down

but a random crackhead suddenly gaining superhuman aim after getting a stringer thrown and him and a door vaporising infront of his face is bullshit

[steady fiber]

Maybe Spring Sale or Summer Sale 2024 maybe in 2030 we dont know

[placid raptor]

next big steam sale is 14 march

[scarlet tangle]

like man the door just blew up how tf did you not flinch

[fossil pasture]

It was not on winter sale and i was interested on playing it but 50$ is alot of money for a game.

[scarlet tangle]

i dont even bother trying to clear a room of suspects normally if i see their guns raised

c2 flash shoot them if they dont already have their hands up

[steady fiber]

I had one get hit with the door and not care

I literally would have said fuck work after that and left. Do not tango with the suspects at that point

[fervent palm]

Heck, even terrorists tend to seriously consider surrender when the door turns into splinters and their retinas are given a suntan by the flashlights of an squad of armed and armoured men

[placid raptor]

agreed, in my country ready or not is the same price of a ryzen 5 5600g

[vagrant laurel]

As far as I can tell, the game logic dictates gun raised = intent to harm, so it's within RoE for you to shoot those on sight.

[scarlet tangle]

i got wallbanged thru a random window which I CANT see through in the cancer mission

[scarlet tangle]

yeah thats why i blow up the door

[vagrant laurel]

I've wallbanged suspects who had their guns up and it's cleared.

[fossil pasture]

Games have gotten way too pricey imo and all for the wrong reasons. If i does go on winter sale for 25$ or less ill get it

[steady fiber]

Comparedto any AAA title like MW2023, NFL24, or even Cuberpunk 2077 its cheap

[scarlet tangle]

yeah ik that, my point was suspects seem to shrug off stingers.. flashes make sense, which is bullshit

[steady fiber]

Doubtful to be that low

[placid raptor]

in my country i bought the game for less than a dollar

[vagrant laurel]

I can't really tell if they're shrugging off the effect or it's somehow not reaching them in the first place.

[scarlet tangle]

unironically i liked the game so much more during adam update than the shit we got rn

[placid raptor]

before steam decided to change the currency they use in my country so even indie games are stupidly expensive

[steady fiber]

sometimes the nade lands in a bad spot and it hits nobody sometimes they shrug it off at their feet sometimes it hits em normally

[fossil pasture]

Disinterested in those titles for a while and Ready or Not seems much more refined for a new game than all those titles you mentioned.

[scarlet tangle]

go arrest a streamer dude cause he shot his mom up

gets shot by random cryptobro who has no involvement with any of this shit

[steady fiber]

RoN despite its flaws is miles better than any new AAA title

[scarlet tangle]

i had an instance of a stunned suspect recovering from his stun animation and popping me in the face in like 200ms

[placid raptor]

also has less bugs than new aaa titles lmao

[scarlet tangle]

he didnt even have to turn towards me completely
bro just shot me in the face while flicking towards me

[vagrant laurel]

I like the post-1.0 suspect's movement. It seems like most of them will generally turtle unless you start a fight with them that you don't finish, then they'll consider flanking, and that feels like a good balance.

[steady fiber]

despite what people whine, bitch, and moan daily say lol

[vagrant laurel]

Their shooting is super annoying though.

[placid raptor]

honestly i played through a few singleplayer missions without encountering a single bug

[steady fiber]

Honestly. Post 1.0 I prefer over Adam and even prior to Adam update AI

Make them use hiding spots and cover more plsu react dynamically to your playstyle (loud vs quiet) and tweak their aim n shit. It would be perfect

[steady fiber]

Same I'll notice a bug here and there on occassion

[fossil pasture]

I liked the game alot when i watched some gameplay footage but for 50$ its just not worth it for me i could get so many other AAA games for much less i mean RDR2 sold for what? 14$?

[placid raptor]

most bugs don't even affect the gameplay

[steady fiber]

Then dont get RoN for a while

[placid raptor]

well sometimes they do, once i saw a bald man with a gun teleport away from me

[fossil pasture]

Good idea

[steady fiber]

teleports behind you

[fossil pasture]

Maybe ill buy it one day when the price drops a bit

[placid raptor]

play swat 4 with first responders mod meanwhile if u want something similar

[signal orchid]

which version are y'all on?

[fossil pasture]

I still havent opened the games i bought on winter sale so might do that later. Thank you guys for the support, bye.

[vagrant laurel]

Yeah, I'd especially like if the behavioral differences between factions were more pronounced so they felt more noticeably different.

[steady fiber]

they need small tweaks and stuff and it'd be perfect

[vagrant laurel]

Mhmm

[placid raptor]

meth heads are as good as trained bodyguards

[steady fiber]

gas station suspects being less accurate than the ones on Neon Tomb and Relapse for example

[vast zealot]

thinking about getting the game would it be better to play with someone

[placid raptor]

yeah but singleplayer is still fun as fuck

[vast zealot]

is there a story to it

[placid raptor]

yeah but its not told through cutscenes and stuff, it's more about enviromental storytelling

[steady fiber]

if you like reading and peicing together information yeah+really good enviormental storytelling

[placid raptor]

singleplayer missions are the same as multiplayer ones

[vast zealot]

nice

[placid raptor]

but u get to command a team and send them to therapy

[vagrant laurel]

Yeah, amateurs in general should mostly fit into a pattern of either excessively confident or excessively timid, depending on who it is.

[placid raptor]

also did they make knife suspects less probable to appear?? in 10 hours of gameplay i found 1

[steady fiber]

or if you dont like that mechanic play practice with the same maps and gameplay without freidnly ai stress

or if you wanna play full solo no AI, host MP freinds only game

lotta ways to play

[steady fiber]

Ive found a few but they seem less likely to appear yeah, or at least to charge after you

[placid raptor]

i honestly think i prefer singleplayer commanding ai rather than multiplayer sometimes

[placid raptor]

they're pretty silly

[steady fiber]

Also watching old vids on the early early pvp alpha

Im so fucking happy we hopefully will never see a PvP gamemode xD

[placid raptor]

they just walk towards me thinking they're michael myers

[placid raptor]

pvp wouldn't work in this game, its clearly made for teamwork

[vagrant laurel]

I really don't think PvP works well in this kind of game. The asymmetry of skill is such a huge part of what makes the gameplay work.

[placid raptor]

also you can play pvp in the training facility if you want to, but your teammates are bullet sponges

yeah but i hope they never add an actual pvp mode

[old snow]

i mean you kinda can pvp, but as a gamemode would be useless

[vagrant laurel]

I don't mind if we get something, I just have my doubts that it'll be fun.

[placid raptor]

like how would the ROE even work in pvp

[nimble marsh]

Scrapping the pvp is the best course of action imo

[nimble marsh]

It would not

[runic aspen]

Same way as Rainbow Six 3 did back in the day, be the worst gamemode and nobody ever played it

[fringe scroll]

I'm riding a bus and it smells like canned corn in here. I'm losing it

[runic aspen]

At least it doesn't smell of shit

[fringe scroll]

True

But I want canned corn now

[next mist]

what does oce mean 🫠

[runic aspen]

Oceanic?

[next mist]

[runic aspen]

I'm guessing

[rough dawn]

I still hate that you get no achievements for multiplayer

[fringe scroll]

What context lol

[rough dawn]

seems like a massive oversight, considering it's the most fun way to play.

[next mist]

the coms at the very bottom say oce

[steady fiber]

you can report to #1050535723087958156

[fringe scroll]

Ye it's Oceania region then

[rough dawn]

it's been reported...since 1.0 came out.

[next mist]

im dumb thank you!

[fringe scroll]

You're looking for some specific region then?

[next mist]

no

[runic aspen]

I'm sure they have a lot on their plates it'll get fixed eventually, probably not an intended issue

[fringe scroll]

Alright

[next mist]

just wondering

[prime eagle]

Are there any patch notes for todays update?

[rough dawn]

I mean, I managed to get an achievement before 1.0 came out

so i'd call it a regression.

[fringe scroll]

There was only one achievement before 1.0 anyway

[prime eagle]

Honestly the game is garbage in its current state, there's no other way to put it

[runic aspen]

A bit strong to call it garbage

[rough dawn]

I have a lot of fun with it. I wouldn't have gone 1.0 in this condition, though.

[red jay]

PvP will be very good and fun and draw a good healthy audience

[fringe scroll]

Wouldn't call it straight garbage, it's playable and enjoyable at times, but I certainly agree it's not in the best state

[rough dawn]

there are a lot of fundamentally broken mechanics.

[mortal trench]

ready or moo

[rough dawn]

nah, miss me on "R6 Siege: Slow edition".

[prime eagle]

Really? There's pretty much no story, the game is pretty much unplayable with the current state of the AI, loadouts are bugged, the freidly AI is useless, the list goes on

[next mist]

https://tenor.com/view/vaca-gif-19410779

[rough dawn]

I have no intention of ever playing vs mode, as i'm sure most other people don't.

[fringe scroll]

Gif perms

[next mist]

[prime eagle]

I think that's my biggest issue, the fact that they're calling this 1.0 is a huge red flag

[fringe scroll]

It's a common practice in this day and age of gaming

[mortal trench]

ready or baa 🐑

[rough dawn]

doesn't make it good.

[fringe scroll]

True

[runic aspen]

I disagree with no story, some missions are linked to each other with environmental storytelling, AI is shit yeah but mods fixed it for me and friendly AI is greatly improved from the beta from what I hear

[prime eagle]

Very true, however reading the fortnightly dev log, I thought it was going to be a huge release

[prime eagle]

You shouldn't have to rely on mods for a $50 game man come on

[rough dawn]

basically, stop adding stuff to the police station, fix the core gameplay. It's not an insane request.

[final quest]

quick question did the recent patch help with FPS issues??

[runic aspen]

I will if they fix the issue

[gaunt holly]

You don't need to rely on mods tho

[mortal trench]

I enjoy the geam without mods

[prime eagle]

you're more patient than me!

[gaunt holly]

How to play "tactical shooter" without patience and discipline

[red jay]

It's pretty obvious that a decision was made to keep calling this 1.0 and hype it hard to tie in with TGA.
I'm betting it was not feasible to delay or push back because of the marketing investment already made for 2023.

With the list of features still coming, removing the EA title from RoN feels real weird. 🤷

[prime eagle]

I was referring to the freindly AI and how garbage it is to worek with, and the enemy AI is just a joke

[mortal trench]

I basically got 0 expectations so probably

[gaunt holly]

The friendly AI is really good tho. What other game has AI teammates that are this good?

[runic aspen]

Swat 4

[next mist]

minecraft

[rough dawn]

"here's a bunch of new cool stuff for the police station"

"...ai still tracks you through walls though."

Genius design decisions.

[prime eagle]

Very likely that they wanted a release before christmas to help sales. However a poor release will only hurt them fiancially in the long run

[gaunt holly]

Let me rephrase. What's wrong with current SWAT AI?

[prime eagle]

preach

[prime eagle]

A very common bug is for them to completely ignore your orders, they also aren't ver intelligent

[rough dawn]

a number of times, i've gotten wallbanged through unbreached rooms, standing way off to the side of the fatal funnel where there's no possible way they could know exactly where my head is at.

[old snow]

yeah, im telling my guys to cuff someone, i hear "got it" or smth like that and then they do nothing

[mortal trench]

that's intentional

[gaunt holly]

Yeah it happens but you can just press the command again and they'll do it

[prime eagle]

You could argue that this happens in real life, shooting through doors etc, however the fire wouldn't be accurate at all

[rough dawn]

no, it's not. they should not be able to aimbot your head and one shot you through a wall when they don't know where you are.

[red jay]

AI tracking you through walls is intentional, but the times which they do so based purely off sound cues are WAY too accurate

[gaunt holly]

None of which are game breaking. Bc the AI works more often than not. And when they do work, it's very cool to see

[mortal trench]

it's funni cuz I play the game occasionally and all they do is pop some shots thru openings

[red jay]

If I order the SWAT AI to cuff someone, and they don't, which leads to someone dying, that's pretty game breaking

[runic aspen]

Never had that issue

[red jay]

I wish I was at my pc rn for clips XD

[mortal trench]

oh yeah the only issue I got lately was commands sometimes not working, maybe they fixed that now

[rough dawn]

and one could not argue that's realistic, sure, spray through a wall? absolutely. wallbang you directly in the head while you're off in the middle of the previous room? nah.

[runic aspen]

Just use mods till they fix it

[red jay]

If the SWAT AI thinks the area is 'unclear' they will refuse cuff commands, which leads to suspects just fake surrendering as the player can't watch all of them, and the game doesn't care about the SWAT AI covering

[rough dawn]

the bethesda strategy

[red jay]

It's a simple change, suspects that are firing purely off of sound cues with no LOS should still be aiming 'at' the player, but with a huge accuracy penalty

[runic aspen]

Yeah its shit, but it makes the AI balanced

[rough dawn]

having been in a fair number of actual stacks, this just doesn't happen. Your chances of actually hitting someone through a wall are practically zero if you can't see them.

shit, practical accuracy under stress when you CAN see a moving target is almost zero unless you're drilling daily.

[mortal trench]

drilling in ron daily

[runic aspen]

drilling daily

[mortal trench]

drilling the vault open in payday

[runic aspen]

overdrilling

[rough dawn]

releasing (another) payday 2 dlc and calling it a 3rd game.

[prime eagle]

found the airsoft guy

[rough dawn]

oh boy, airsoft.

paintball with larp elements.

[steady fiber]

overdrill
drilltacular
drilltrocity
drillaminjaro

[nimble marsh]

Payday 3 is just 💩

[rough dawn]

not that payday 2 was very good after goldfap took over.

Take over studio
Completely ruin game
Leave
refuse to elaborate

[red jay]

PD3 was botched botched on launch, for anyone who was a fan of PD2, it would be like taking ten steps back for better graphics/some revamped mechanics

[rough dawn]

I was a fan of PD2 before it was DLC Treadmill - The game

[red jay]

Fair, lul

[steady fiber]

Yeah

PD2 was a masterpeice after a couple years. DLC or not its a fun game

[rough dawn]

Goldfarb totally poisoned overkill.

which is to be expected from a Battlefield producer, tbh.

[runic aspen]

Its morally correct to use the DLC unlocker mod for PD2

[mortal trench]

I love pd2

[rough dawn]

I think the last time I played PD2 was when they started pushing the card system, in 2021 or so.

totally checked out after that.

[steady fiber]

This suspect fucking got cheap ammo

I let him shoot me 9 times with a shotgun before I finally died

[rough dawn]

depending on where you get hit

[runic aspen]

PD2 is still a lot of fun but matchmaking is ass since EOS update

[rough dawn]

shotguns do zero damage at all. it seems like the only perps that just shoot center mass 100% of the time are guys with shotguns

[mortal trench]

the head 9 times

[rough dawn]

or they try to snipe you from across the map with the world's shortest sawed off

[crimson meadow]

why is the ready or not update 56 gb

[rough dawn]

it's not, just the way steam calculates patch size is funny sometimes. Latest patch was like an 800mb download, but since it basically reinstalls the whole game to patch...

[mortal trench]

idk they probably have some very odd pak structure or a few bits in different paks got updated so all are invalidated and have to be delta patched by steam

[red jay]

Imagine the shotgun suspects if they didn't have a super weak near-worthless buckshot type.

[rough dawn]

buckshot is pretty worthless against body armor in general.

[mortal trench]

birdshot to the head

[runic aspen]

smh I wanna play pd2 now

[gaunt holly]

Our hands and arms should still get rekt by buckshot

[rough dawn]

also, most games really overestimate the amount of "spread" a shotgun has. Your standard 18in pump shotgun with an improved cylinder choke setup will pattern all the buck from a 00 shell in like...a trashcan lid size pattern at 50 yards.

[red jay]

Yeah, so they wouldn't break your armor either way.

But their special buck type has a massive damage down multiplier for limbs

[rough dawn]

RoN actually does a pretty good job.

[mortal trench]

maybe it's cuz they are games

[steady fiber]

at point blank it should penetrate ceramic after a few shots xD

[runic aspen]

Shotgun spread is pretty much zero in RoN its good

[gaunt holly]

Not even talking about spread. If you get hit center chest while holding a rifle in hand, your arms are in front of your body armor and will get destroyed

[rough dawn]

it will not. Level 4 is multi hit rated from 30-06 AP.

[red jay]

If you want to see what suspects are working with, I think you can still equip the suspect-only shotgun ammo, right?

[modern loom]

guys the patch install is stuck?

[red jay]

Did they fix this with the hotfixes?

[modern loom]

its stuck at "installing" despite it installing everything

[nimble matrix]

OVERSIMPLIFIED UPLOADED

[rough dawn]

00 buck is 8ish 38 special rounds traveling at a much lower velocity.

[gaunt holly]

Lol wut. .38sp is much slower

[rough dawn]

the individual pellets once they separate from the shot cup are no longer doing 1200fps.

they also aren't stabilized in any way, and the BC is worse.

[gaunt holly]

Need to pull out the charts for this one. I don't believe it lol

[mortal trench]

a M829A4 to the head should do it

[old snow]

how tf does that happen, i go first in, get shot at, and my last in line squadmate dies

[mortal trench]

fainted

[rough dawn]

there's a reason why hunters who can afford it go for bismuth shot when hunting foul. the ballistic coefficient on shot absolutely sucks, and your only way to maintain energy on target is something heavier than lead.

[red jay]

SUSPECT KNOCKED OUT

[rough dawn]

shotguns are very effective, but it has to be just the right load at just the right distance.

[red jay]

suspects must think we're cia spooks, hunting us with rock salt

[rough dawn]

effectiveness would go way up if suspects were pelvic girdling, but it makes a lot of sense that they wouldn't think that, realistically.

[red jay]

If you wanna jej at the game, wear steel and just let one of the sawed-off guys hammer you for a while. You can effectively never die

[rough dawn]

plates (if they fit right) don't cover you anywhere below about an inch above your navel.

[steady fiber]

Muzzle Velocity .38spl depending on the specific ammo is at most 1000fps and goes as low as 750, 12 guage 00 buck is around 1300fps

At 20 yards. You're losing about 20-30fps with the .38 spl, 12 guage 00 buck about 1000-1100 fps

So no, 00 buck is faster than .38spl

[runic aspen]

Why don't they make vests out of bullet proof glass 🤔

[red jay]

Western plates maybe, when do my totally-not-bloodstained russian imports arrive again? Considering how much the requisitions guy at the station loves getting exotic shit

[rough dawn]

they cover the same amount. any lower and you will have problems doing things like bending.

[gaunt holly]

I guess it also depends on the load. I keep forgetting the name of it, but there is this one buckshot load that does not spread until past 50yds. I imagine the pellets are still carrying quite a bit of energy around 10-15yds

[gaunt holly]

Flight control!

[rough dawn]

most shotgun loads spread out very little before about 20-30 yards.

depends on a lot of factors though, barrel length, choke, etc.

[steady fiber]

spread also depends on your specific load, barrel lenght, choke, etc.

[red jay]

Rubber-bucky ammo when? 🦆

[steady fiber]

My hunting shotgun with a full choke is terrifying even at 50 yards

[rough dawn]

rubber buckshot would be a neat addition, considering rubber bullets aren't considered less lethal unless you bounce them off the ground, lol

[steady fiber]

30in barrel and full choke with 3in magnum shells

[gaunt holly]

Meh, I've had my shotguns patterned with 00 and 04 buck. Can really only get all pellets hitting a man sized torso up until 20yds

[runic aspen]

Too many Americans in chat right now 💀

[unique yarrow]

one question
does the steam cloud thing save anything from RoN?
cause my whole game is like 0% even though i played it to about 60%

[karmic lichen]

is it true judge is relate to gerard?

[steady fiber]

mmmm no I can get all pellets on a torso at 30 yards using 00 buck

[gaunt holly]

With flight control you can still have a fist sized group up til 50

[rough dawn]

my a300 patrol will pattern about man size at 50 yards, improved cylinder.

[red jay]

Would be interesting for gameplay, easier to use than the beanbag, but would actually incap suspects in a few hits, unlike the beanbag

[rough dawn]

beanbags are also not "less lethal" in indoor distances.

[gaunt holly]

Maybe my Benellis just suck. I never liked them tbh lol

[steady fiber]

Im gonna be getting a benelli

[gaunt holly]

Don't

[rough dawn]

it's a combination of factors. shoot, air density/temperature even effects pattern.

[gaunt holly]

The ergo is horrible. Beretta makes better shotguns

I have a nova and m2. I would not recommend to anyone tbh

[rough dawn]

I have had complete failures on 3 supernovas within the first 150 rounds.

dunno wtf they're doing.

[red jay]

💀 oof

[rough dawn]

once i got the 4th replacement shotgun, i sold it and bought an a300.

[steady fiber]

Only shotguns I have are Remington and Steoger atm

[rough dawn]

i have a stoeger double defense coach gun that has been an absolute joy of a range toy.

[gaunt holly]

I also have a youth sized mossberg bantam 500 that I like more than both of my Benellis

[steady fiber]

My huting shotgun is a M3000 model 36052...man is it good

[placid ice]

How can I check for booby traps

[runic aspen]

Mirrorgun and peeking the door and checking for a wire

[placid ice]

Tnx

[gaunt holly]

I've played with my buddies 1301 a handful of times and boy is that the perfect shotgun

[rough dawn]

1301's are nice, but they're worth about 1/2 of what they charge for them.

[gaunt holly]

Yeah they are way too expensive

[steady fiber]

I got my Stoger for a Weatherby .300win mag

[rough dawn]

but the only reason they're so expensive is because you can't sell anything to the DoD at higher than commercial price, so companies with government contracts just increase the commercial price to charge the government and police forces more, because that's where the money is.

Same reason LMT and KAC stuff is so expensive.

[gaunt holly]

I wanted to toy with an a300 to compare. But figured I should not waste money on another shotgun lol

[old snow]

when i do it its called "unauthorized use of deadly force", but when they do it is called "a way of living"

[gaunt holly]

Especially a $900 shotgun....

[rough dawn]

imo the blink gas system is the best thing going.

[gaunt holly]

What beretta has going on is so much better than benelli

[steady fiber]

I want a pump/semi auto shotgun tbh

[rough dawn]

you do not want a spas 12.

[steady fiber]

theres more of em than spas 12's lol

[rough dawn]

unless it's to hang on the wall because it's cool as hell to look at.

[gaunt holly]

Mossgberg 500 best value for money. 590a1 if you want to spend money

Then get a beretta for semi. Hands down best in themarket

[rough dawn]

why would you want it anyways? The only reason dual mode shotguns exist is to cycle less lethals, which you'll go to jail if you use in a defensive situation anyways.

[steady fiber]

the coolness of having one duh

[gaunt holly]

Is that the m3?

[steady fiber]

and similar such shotguns yeah

[rough dawn]

more expensive replacement parts to break, and you get the worst of both worlds. shitty recoil/gas system to run semi, crunchy hard to work pump. everything gets compromised.

[old snow]

aa-12 with a switch

[steady fiber]

but coolness factor wins

[rough dawn]

there are a couple AA-12s on the registry. good luck getting one.

I am pretty sure one of them is owned by the same billionaire who owns the only two ultimax's on the registry.

[old snow]

remake a airsoft one.

[steady fiber]

One dream gun I want just for the fun is a M82 or M107

[rough dawn]

just fold a 5 dollar bill into a paper airplane and throw it down the range. same effect.

[steady fiber]

not as much bang or wallet crying though

[gaunt holly]

Also burn 10k in a barrel while you're making your $5 paper airplane

[steady fiber]

i want my bank account to weep every time I mag dump

[rough dawn]

someone introduced an M82 drum at shit show this year. begs for someone to build an auto sear.

[steady fiber]

I want my credit card to be reduced to ashes as I burn my ammo stockpile in one rangeday

[rough dawn]

me, with my AR308 SBR.

turn dollar bills into muzzle flash and CTE.

the SA58 in RoN should also be way more concussive, like you should start getting flashbang effects the more rounds you dump out of it.

[steady fiber]

My AR10 build I want is a 6.5 creemore or maybe possibly 7mm rem mag

[rough dawn]

i built a 7.5in AR308. It's a great range clearing tool for when you want alone time for pistol drills.

[steady fiber]

lol

[fringe sphinx]

lol

[steady fiber]

just do what I do. Private land means private free use range

[rough dawn]

I've gotten neighbor complaints from shooting that thing on 150 acres of private land, lol.

[steady fiber]

lol

[gaunt holly]

6.5 is great if you're into medium-long range shooting. The trajectory is pretty flat

[steady fiber]

about 200 yards is the max range anywhere here

[gaunt holly]

Oof that's not enough

[rough dawn]

i go to an indoor range with 100 yard lanes, which is nice in the summer.

[steady fiber]

nah its good with 6.5 just cause its flat torjectory dont make it shit in 100 yard shots lol

[rough dawn]

and plenty of distance considering ELR .22LR matches top out at about 150 yards.

[gaunt holly]

You're not even close to stretching the legs of 6.5 at 100m

[steady fiber]

your point being?

[rough dawn]

you can make great hits with more terminal energy than you'd think at closer to 1000yd with 6.5 creed.

[gaunt holly]

You're basically only shooting groups. Can't build dope or play with wind. Might as well shoot .22lr lol

[steady fiber]

sadly I cant get close to 1000 yards

[steady fiber]

such a dumb argument lol

how original too, totally never heard that before

[rough dawn]

there's a member's only range about 45 minutes from me with steel out to a mile, lol. Been trying to get in there for the last 3 years.

[steady fiber]

last members only range I went to was too expnsive for what I could do with private land lol

[rough dawn]

this one is extra classist. gotta know someone who already has a membership to "recommend" you.

[steady fiber]

oof

yeah i wouldnt do that shit xD

Find someone with the same ammount of land you can safely shoot at 1000 yards on

[rough dawn]

and they've been closed to new members completely for like 5 years. I imagine it's a lot of 400 pound fudds with NRA CERTIFIED INSTRUCTOR shirts on, constantly ND-ing into eachother.

[steady fiber]

xD

[gaunt holly]

Imo just a waste of ammo to shoot .30cal or bigger under 400m. If you're only shooting for groups

[rough dawn]

I already get enough from the fat RSO waddling over to me asking "you got a stamp for that raaahfle?"

[rough dawn]

unless it's 300 blackout. subsonic 300 blackout is just 45acp with a better BC, lol.

[steady fiber]

I hunt with .30cal, and its fun to shoot even under 400 yards cause fuck does it matter if I only shoot 100 yards xD

[gaunt holly]

Just saying you can do the same with smaller calibers and get the same results lol

[steady fiber]

minus upsetting fudds who must have maximum range with their rifles and must use every ftlb of energy out of those rounds on paper targets

[rough dawn]

i would very much like to do an 8.6blk upper for my ar308, but not until there's a saami spec for it and I don't have to spend 50bmg prices for ammo.

[steady fiber]

or bigger round means more kick means more fun

i shoot 10 gauge shotguns for fun xD

that and I have a 7mm rem mag rifle so ammo sharing xD

[acoustic kestrel]

reading through all of this having never shot anything bigger than .22

[gaunt holly]

To me it's more fun to ring some steel with bigger boollits

[acoustic kestrel]

can't even go to a range without the gun bolted to the table

[steady fiber]

i can ring steel at 100 yards so what lol

[rough dawn]

frankly, you can replicate the entire experience of larger longer range rounds (except recoil) with 22lr.

[lime elm]

still waiting on full patches it seems. the hotfixes was a short list.

[steady fiber]

hell I ring steel with my revolver at 10-15

[rough dawn]

i probably shoot more 22 than anything else these days. it's the best round for fundamentals in compressed range spaces.

[placid raptor]

still waiting for them to optimize the maps

[steady fiber]

i like and dislike 22lr

[gaunt holly]

My point is if I have a tool that can stretch to 1200m, why would I waste the ammo shooting at a 100m target lol

[steady fiber]

fun of bringing it out to the range xD

[lime elm]

optimize the game! I don't like seeing my vest's floating shadow when I'm leaning left and right.

[rough dawn]

american 180 in RoN when

[steady fiber]

I have a .308 hunting rifle, I shouldnt use that because dear god my .223 and .243 do just as good at the ranges I shoot how horrible

even if I hunt at like 10 yards with my .30-30 more often

[placid raptor]

also anyone know why shipping.exe always launches in dx12? anyway to change it to dx11

[runic aspen]

Excuse me, what?

[rough dawn]

try making a shortcut and add -dx11 to the launch command. that's all i can think of, 50/50 chance it works.

[acoustic kestrel]

australia

[placid raptor]

imma try it out

[acoustic kestrel]

unless you're part of a sport shooting club that's your only option

[rough dawn]

europe, clearly

[placid raptor]

btw @rough dawn do you mean in steam launch parameters or somewhere else

[quasi creek]

agreed

[acoustic kestrel]

our government banned fucking gel blasters recently, I just enjoy shooting at paper thinking about joining a club

[rough dawn]

i used to live in a big tourist area, and the ranges there would get a lot of europeans who want the "american experience" of shooting a gun for the first time. that range would get DANGEROUS at certain times of the year.

[rough dawn]

australia or NZ?

[acoustic kestrel]

Aus

[rough dawn]

i mean making a shortcut to the shipping exe, and adding it to the launch perameters there.

[placid raptor]

oh alright thanks

[gaunt holly]

I've found that shooting .22 at pbr is more cost effective for training. You're not getting much more out of shooting larger calibers at 100m other than fun. With .22, I can shoot a couple hundred rounds in a morning to work on fundamentals and that would have cost me a whopping $10 in ammo lol

[acoustic kestrel]

not surprised tbh, I did air force cadets quite a few years ago and half of the day every time we went shooting was spent drilling firearm safety into everyone as if they were all fucking idiots, because a lot of them were

[rough dawn]

ND's happen on military ranges all the time. 90% of military members aren't combat troops and never touch a gun after quals.

[acoustic kestrel]

we were all about 14-17 on base doing it so I think they just went extra hard on safety

it stuck though, which I guess was the point

[rough dawn]

it's a lot more of a problem if you're not raised in "gun culture"

[steady fiber]

How horrible I shoot for fun a lot of times lol

[rough dawn]

"sonny you've got too much stuff hangin' off that there plastic glunk"

proceed to watch two rounds per mag get hung up on the freed ramp of his 1911

[tall ore]

Another update??

[acoustic kestrel]

my parents both went through the reserves training in the UK so they were super happy for me to be trained how to shoot safely, never owned any guns due to the country of residence but it was never a scary thing holding a gun

[rough dawn]

i'd be scared to hold an L85, as well. AR's jam when exposed to extreme cold, AK's jam when exposed to mud, L85's jam when exposed to ammo.

if i wanted a crappy ar18, i'd just go digging in a field in northern ireland, thank you very much.

[acoustic kestrel]

I think the l1a1 was only just still the current service rifle when they did it

[placid raptor]

hey man it actually worked, thank you

[rough dawn]

FALs are based.

[acoustic kestrel]

that's the one

[karmic lichen]

are you ready?

[steady fiber]

me who almost had a ammo malfunction blow up a revolver if it werent for the squib getting stuck between the cylinder and barrel

[eager pilot]

why the fuck is the update 56 gb

[placid raptor]

it ain't

[gaunt holly]

If you have the money for it then more power to you ✊

I'm poor so I look for ways to save money in training

[rough dawn]

this is why I don't shoot "bubbaz pissin hot reloadz" that come in ziploc bags at the gun show.

[placid raptor]

the game is patching itself

[karmic lichen]

the update is 3 gbs, the 56gbs is just patching so it isnt eating up 56gbs of ur storage

[rough dawn]

or anything made in turkey.

[steady fiber]

oh no this was 1 in a million squib out of I think winchester ammo or something

[eager pilot]

i still have to wait 2 hours for that to be done

[steady fiber]

Was some decent ammo I just got unlucky

[tall ore]

Nah 800MG of new stuff?!?

[karmic lichen]

rip for shitty internet, good luck

[rough dawn]

800MB of modified stuff.

[placid raptor]

just some hotfixes

[rough dawn]

you need to replace whole sections of files, it doesn't patch them on the fly. Most games don't.

[eager pilot]

i use laptop and no matter what i do it locks on 10mb a sec

[acoustic kestrel]

ready or not update gonna get you faded off 800mg

[rough dawn]

sounds like a network issue, if your outside connection is faster than 10mbps.

if i had to guess, sounds like your NIC or network hardware is 10/100 and about 20 years old.

[acoustic kestrel]

I'd kill for 10MB/s as minimum

[eager pilot]

i have the internet connected to the laptop but it just locks on 10mb, i have good net.

[rough dawn]

that is a network hardware problem.

[acoustic kestrel]

6 is considered a good day for me

[steady fiber]

Me whos still on Dec. 17th update lol

[runic aspen]

oh my fuck it really is patching the entire game

[tall ore]

YES, THEY FIXED THE SETTINGS

[rough dawn]

me, grinning through my symmetrical 2.5gbps connection

[eager pilot]

this patch better be worth the 2 hours

[tall ore]

THE SETTINGS ARE FIXED! FINNALY.

[acoustic kestrel]

if only our government decided to retire copper wiring

[karmic lichen]

not sure its a good idea to play ready or not on a laptop lol, but if it runs well i guess that works

[rough dawn]

mine is through co-ax 😄

[eager pilot]

16 ram lol

[rough dawn]

DOCSIS 4.0

[runic aspen]

yeah i got a laptop that can run this game pretty well too

[eager pilot]

i will upgrade it to 32 but they say its risky as hell

[acoustic kestrel]

tbf australia bad internet isn't a meme

[rough dawn]

well it's literally a giant island in the middle of nowhere.

[runic aspen]

Epstein would like to know your location

[eager pilot]

i hope they add pvp mode

[acoustic kestrel]

one of the big issues the liberal party focused on years ago was that "nobody needed speeds faster than copper" which completely fucked progress

[rough dawn]

funny story about that, my cousin used to live on st thomas right under the flight path of jeffy's helicopter.

[eager pilot]

epstein mission when

[runic aspen]

"Whats this liquid that came out of the helicopter?"

[acoustic kestrel]

by liberal I mean economically liberal not socially liberal

[steady fiber]

it would be the 2nd most unused feature outside of the exestince of lockpick guns

even though I run a lockpick gun

[eager pilot]

well it will be fun, 2v2 mode will surely get players

[rough dawn]

not as useless as the pepper spray which seems to do literally nothing

[runic aspen]

after 300gigabytes of patching

[steady fiber]

nah

[eager pilot]

ADD BACK PAINTBALL

[acoustic kestrel]

half of the time my squad spends in game is station shoothouse 1v1s

[rough dawn]

literally nobody wants PVP mode besides like 3 people who have withdrawal from CoD.

[half warren]

guys, where I can find the notes about the new update?

[acoustic kestrel]

did they actually end up adding the shoothouse blue guns in?

[rough dawn]

it would just turn into run and gun, which is the antithesis of the gameplay of RoN

[runic aspen]

it didnt really add anything

[formal river]

They're in the tutorial area

[eager pilot]

anything special added this patch or is it just bugs?

[half warren]

thnks

[formal river]

all of the patches currently are focused on fixing bugs, yep

[acoustic kestrel]

ahh I basically exclusively play in multiplayer lobbies that explains why I've never seen them

[steady fiber]

when will the devs make the game from CoD with this AI to swat sim?

[runic aspen]

fuck the bugs, fix the shitty features that are "how they want them to be"

[eager pilot]

i miss the old carriers of the vine map, what a classic.

[sweet tendon]

[zenith sonnet]

Hey, the latest newsletter has a repeated question #🎨ron-screenshots-and-art message

[tall ore]

I am thankfull you fixed the launguage bug, That I couldyn't change from Polish To English.

[half warren]

Thanks Void Interactive for add portuguese language in the game 🇧🇷

[karmic lichen]

okay thats better than my pc currently, mine cant handle any game

not even HALF LIFE without lag

[runic aspen]

1 or 2?

[karmic lichen]

both

[still rampart]

nexusmods down for anyone else???

[runic aspen]

that shit still have a cassette reader?

[placid raptor]

i mean half life 1 is an old game so maybe modern pc's have problem running it

[placid raptor]

yeah it's in maintenance

[still rampart]

ohh. ty

[next hollow]

I love you Void

[still rampart]

congrats on full F rank

[rough dawn]

GldSRC runs fine on modern machines, even in windows 11. It's been updated multiple times.

[next hollow]

thank you

[placid raptor]

oh alright

[rough dawn]

they removed all the legacy stuff that no longer exists.

which actually makes current versions run way worse on period hardware.

which is fine. there aren't many people out there running 30 year old hardware

[modern loom]

guys how to change mission to raid? my friend cant find a raid map, theyre all barricaded suspects

[ivory python]

that's cause valve has been updating GoldSRC lol