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[jolly verge]

Deals morale damage only

[solemn patio]

Aw damn

I wish the m16a4 wasnt full auto to sorta nerf the suspects using it

Maybe theyre pulling the trigger really fast to mimic full auto

[ocean steeple]

its been fun but i’m deleting this bullshit until void fixes their game. I spent 6 hours on ANA hard mode, finally got all the suspects and the triggerman and the game decides to make the last guy not exist.

[solemn patio]

Just dont play hard mode

Hard mode has been and always will be stupidly unfair

[tacit gull]

right it shouldnt be up to void not to make the game play like shit

[solemn patio]

Im just saying, Im not trying to say that action shouldnt be taken to fix this game

Im offering solutions

Not sympathies or game suggestions

This is coming from a guy who got fucked at the end of ana by MLO who came flooding in through multiple entrances and ate my rounds

My AI swat just shot a surrendering suspect in the face after he got gassed by a door trap

And then i had an officer die to thin air

They all had on gas masks

[deft plume]

can you get programmed psychosis even if civilians are dead?

[burnt gazelle]

FInally got my D on standard on Greased Palms

I don't even know if I want to do VotD now

[jolly verge]

Nope, all main objectives must be completed.

They can be only incapacitated

[solemn patio]

Im very close to dying but I am so far do i start using my ai more

[deft plume]

how about roe violation like unauthorized use of force

[jolly verge]

Only main objectives, anything else is irrelevant

[deft plume]

I see

dude wtf

killing armed suspects is "authorized use of force"

[lusty light]

roe in this game is a joke

i've gotten unauthorized use of deadly force on suspects actively firing at me

[deft plume]

bro same wtf is this game

[lusty light]

just gotta sit there and eat lead ig

[deft plume]

bro I yell at alone ana suspect they just shoot automatically

if I don't and shoot them = unauthorized use of force

like bruh ana suspects aggressive af

[solemn patio]

they have insane reaction time just dome em

If you have the jump on em make sure they die

[lusty light]

Word

[solemn patio]

Also I rushed that one room with the stairs in ana with a five seven and a shield, all the Black sentinel mercs were there so i just killed them all with my ap

[deft plume]

ye I always do

[deft plume]

man I find the black sentinel more annoying than the fucking mlo

mfers running like crazy

[solemn patio]

Theyre easy to kill just use five seven ap

4 rounds and they go down half the tome

[marble flume]

I love how when I tell my SWAT guys to Hold after an accidental command, all of them do except for one who then gets himself killed

[solemn patio]

Could i kill a civ with gas to fail the rescue all civs objective i cant find the last civ on ana

[jolly verge]

Is it failed or just not completed in your tablet

[solemn patio]

Not completed

I cant find the stupid last civ, its commander mode

[jolly verge]

Just hiding somewhere or maybe even incapacitated but not cuffed

[solemn patio]

Wish backup would come on these missions once order was brought to chaos

Maybe your other ai swat on standby?

They wont listen to it

I gave them it earlier and since sll evidence is secured they wont listen now

[jolly verge]

Search and Secure is only for surrendered suspects/civilians and evidence, they won't find anyone who is still standing

[solemn patio]

Yes

[solemn patio]

Oh shittt maybe i shot a civ and incapped them

Or standing civ

[jolly verge]

There also pre-cuffed civilians you must report

[solemn patio]

I think it was bugged

Si

[feral mango]

are the enemies harder on "a new america?"

[wind gyro]

yes

[sudden thorn]

The ai mimics your swat officers in a way so yes

they also seem to just be a lot more aggressive in general

[wind gyro]

well they are the mlo

[sudden thorn]

They also mostly use guns that shoot high caliber rounds so you’ll be taking a lot of damage if you take fire from them

[feral mango]

first time i heard "stack up" on the other side of the door i almost shit my pants

would be but it was only 1 guy lol

[pulsar lake]

They are so unfair ngl

And I get 4 clanker teammates with toasters for brains

[sudden thorn]

I like to put c2 on doors I think they’ll be in and see if there’s any tripwires nearby I can trip, if there are any lasers, I like to trip them on purpose and blow up the door when they’re stacking up

The voiceline that scares me the most me personally is “starting exercise” every time they say that shit goes down and so do i

[pulsar lake]

Ngl the complaints are minimal except the bridge in Relapse and a couple of corridors in 3 Letter Triad.
This map is an entire other beast it pisses me off

[sudden thorn]

I sometimes get the arrested quotes confused with the active ones so I end up hiding in a room for a few minutes waiting for someone

[pulsar lake]

Nah I dealt with that by just getting better and not sending in SWAT lol

Took a couple extra tries though

[wind gyro]

it always was

[quasi coral]

When I saw the door open and a flashbang pop while my team was stacked up, I paused the game and walked away

[solemn patio]

I wish they stacked up to make it easy to blow their shit off

[solemn patio]

I hate long range gunfights in this game suspects are way too good at full auto spray

[thick dome]

anyone done 3 letter triad on hard mode solo or as a duo??

[thick dome]

indeed

[solemn patio]

My MLO mind control kicked in and i killed my entire squad of ai swat with MLO help (one died and before i restarted i decided to try killing them all)

[marble flume]

the bridge in relapse is probably the easiest part, just run a riot shield so you don't die

I actually prefer the first entrance now.

The bridge is a bit dicier, but that's nothing a riot shield can't solve pretty easily, and I prefer attacking that third floor from the bridge entrances than from either of the staircase entrances

[solemn patio]

This game is so shit i cant get a new America fucking done

Too many bugs ive been trying to do this all fuckinf day

If you’re gonna tell me skill issue dont say anything at all i want solutions

[marble flume]

skill issue
father on ends of the earth prone halfway into a wall

[solemn patio]

IM GONNA CUR YOUR FINGERS OFF

[marble flume]

the funniest thing about that is I genuinely don't even know why he'd be lying down at all

[solemn patio]

Okay maybe not all of them just one

[solemn patio]

Sleeppyyyy

[marble flume]

or that one civilian on Sins of the Father that does a horrible job hiding under a piano

[pulsar lake]

That's certainly an interesting take

[marble flume]

I mean, shit what else are you gonna use, the shield is the best long tac in the game

You don't even need to engage with a pistol off of it, its usefulness as a reposition tool alone makes it S tier

[solemn patio]

The flinch makes it so you have to free lean super crouch to not be hit

[marble flume]

its not a guarantee you don't take damage, but avoiding about 85-90% of incoming fire while quickly sprinting across that bridge meant I didn't die on the bridge once on any of my S rank attempts

[feral mango]

really can be at times. anybody play six days in fallujah? i feel like that borders on horror game but i havent played it. waiting for console release

[marble flume]

shit RoN's been a horror game since EA lol

[feral mango]

def one of the most effed up if not the most with levels like the spider and the basement in the birthday party level.

[daring quarry]

bro i just got shot by an enemy on a new america that was phased into a wall

[daring quarry]

i havent played it but i saw a vet reacting to it and you could see him reliving the ptsd in his eyes and kept saying how accurate it was

[marble flume]

only the OGs remember the old farmhouse map

[daring quarry]

also am i crazy for thinking that s ranking 3 letter triad is going to be harder than a new america?

[feral mango]

i could see that

[daring quarry]

because breach shotgun is not reasonable on the long range angles that i get melted from

[feral mango]

i like this game a lot more on console than i did on pc

[daring quarry]

and lord knows im not gonna be getting any surrenders with the non lethal pistol at range because the AI doesnt surrender when youre far away for reasons

[feral mango]

theres a non lethal pistol?

[daring quarry]

ya

[feral mango]

the taser?

[daring quarry]

nope

[feral mango]

hmm

[daring quarry]

its a nerf gun basically

[feral mango]

is it pepperball like the rifles?

[daring quarry]

yeah

except instead of capsaicin i think they put normal pepper in there because suspects do NOT care

[feral mango]

no gifs? no fun

[daring quarry]

it could be useful on close range maps where enemies dont have armour... when you have riot shield

[feral mango]

how many mags do you get if you run secondary only? i wanted to do some pistol runs but i use 1911

[daring quarry]

uh depends on your setup but you can usually fit around 10 i think

[solemn patio]

Been meaning to try it out

[feral mango]

looks dope

i feel like there far off from 1.0 though which is when console will drop hopefully

[solemn patio]

I saw a guy play it and he killed his squad lead by accident

[cedar mulch]

Can the MLO take on renegade Secret Service agent?

[daring quarry]

will it save me more time to just do the solo multiplayer a new america first

[marble flume]

Yeah, you can get about one surrender per mag on Standard, good luck on Hard lmao

[rich reef]

Someone should try A New America with just that gun on hard

[marble flume]

Its like using pepper spray, its essentially not even possible

[daring quarry]

i legit think you would have to go no armour to be able to pack enough ammo

[marble flume]

run four negotiators and pray for good rng

[rich reef]

I mean at least it stuns on the like the last 3 shots

[marble flume]

stuns on four hits, it can make a small cs gas cloud after three shots but that's pretty inconsistent

[rich reef]

I think stab vest has more slots than no armor

[marble flume]

thats what he means, no armor is just for larp or challenge runs

[jolly verge]

Pepperballs stun in 6 hits on Hard, so you need 26 mags for TPRL

[deft plume]

bro wtf are these spawns in programmed psychosis lmaooo

giving me the worst suspects spawn ever

standard only little bit

[rich reef]

A New America with no ballistic protection what so ever and you can only use the pepperball pistol

I'm gonna try that

[daring quarry]

keyword try

[rich reef]

Maybe with ballistic protection but thats it

[marble flume]

you deadass need four negotiatiors just for the 60% surrender chance for doing nothing

[rich reef]

I'm gonna do it solo

Just for the shits and giggles

[daring quarry]

i understand why those people in those inspirational stories always talk about the people who doubted them

im now one of those doubters

[rich reef]

I'll beat it someday

[jolly verge]

Even if you have 100% perfect accuracy you wont be able to do this without extra slots mod

[daring quarry]

breach shotgun perhaps?

idk if that works

[rich reef]

Imma allow mods that dont interfer with the AI and stuff

[jolly verge]

You need 2 headshots to incap with it and it have low ammo capacity so nope

[rich reef]

So extra slots is a must have

[daring quarry]

is there any reason to change coverage on your armour from full?

[rich reef]

A New America with just the bash

[rich reef]

Full makes you slower

[daring quarry]

do you guys use ceramic or steel like i have on a new america

[jolly verge]

That depends on plate and it changes only acceleration, not speed

[rich reef]

Side and back if you need speed

[deft plume]

use steel always

[rich reef]

Oh yeah right

[deft plume]

dude wtf are these ana suspects spawns man I keep getting on hard mode solo

[rich reef]

Use the pepperball pistol

[deft plume]

these vids I watch don't get my gay ass spawns I have 2nd floor

[rich reef]

It's goated trust me

[deft plume]

for hard solo?

[rich reef]

Yea

[deft plume]

I'm doing lethal tho

[lost inlet]

Steel.

[jolly verge]

steel only, but you will die from 3 limbs shots of JHP ammo on ANA anyway #👮ron-discussion messages

[daring quarry]

my suspects have just started spawning on the stairs on standard

[rich reef]

Might as well S-rank it while your at it

[deft plume]

for some reason my hard mode I keep getting is fucking ridiculous

I only make it to 3rd floor

[lost inlet]

Ana suspect uses jhp instead of ap?

[deft plume]

this is just my first day of programmed psychosis

I'm fine giving up the programmed psychosis grind bc I'm already satisfied with the solo standard lmao

[jolly verge]

BSG only

[daring quarry]

i kept seeing this server only talk about a new america and i was getting kinda nervous then realised i was boned when i saw the 3 open sightlines and the "this door cant be mirrored" prompt

[jolly verge]

MLO use AP

[lost inlet]

Tf is BSG…

[jolly verge]

Black Sentinel

[lost inlet]

They camps on upper floors right?

[jolly verge]

They on all floors, mixed with MLO suspects

[lost inlet]

Damm.

[rich reef]

BS doesn't really work all that much with the MLO though they just kinda do their own thing for the most part

[jolly verge]

Yeah, they do not breach like MLO and can hesitate on sight

[deft plume]

who in their right god damn mind created programmed psychosis???

[rich reef]

I think MLO aren't affected by breaches

[deft plume]

I doubt the devs even tried it

[rich reef]

They just thug that shit out

[deft plume]

"hey guys let's just slapped in some bs awareness on hard mode"

[rich reef]

No moral decrease

[deft plume]

"especially if you're crouching"

fucking paycheck thieves man

[thick dome]

wait till you try 3 letter triad on hard mode.....

[deft plume]

what's wrong?

[lost inlet]

Dev turned cheats on solo clear the map on hard and think players would have easy time doing the achievement.

[jolly verge]

Nah they are affected the same as any other suspect, funny thing is that they they can breach the room and stun their friends too

[lost inlet]

The so called smartest AI in the game btw.

[deft plume]

bro that's fucking stupid

that clearly means they're fucking dogshit testing players

[thick dome]

3LTa ...27 suspects..half are PMCs..big rooms..BS visibility

[rich reef]

So they just won't hesitate to shoot?

[lost inlet]

Void turned away from players playtesting, confident that their codes will works first time.

[deft plume]

hire the highly experienced great gameplay players on the staff team to give feedback on the testing

[lost inlet]

Spoiler: It did not.

[deft plume]

that's fucking moronic

wtfffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff

[jolly verge]

Yes, all MLO use Tactical archetype that does not allow them to hesitate on sight

[deft plume]

they got mega aids man

[rich reef]

Ohhh thats cool

So they still have the moral decrease then

Just will shoot you on sight

[lost inlet]

We’re in the glazing era now, the game is redeemed and is a perfect SWAT sim.

[jolly verge]

Yeap, it's just some behaviour difference, like they do not hesitate nor being affected by 100% chance from 2 Intimidators as well

[deft plume]

yikes that’s ineffective damn

[lost inlet]

Tbf, who uses 2 intimidator anyway?

[jolly verge]

Everyone who knows the mechanic behind it

[rich reef]

Don't they also use the same or similar animations to the 3rd person SWAT animations?

[jolly verge]

They do

[rich reef]

That's pretty cool

[lost inlet]

Intimidator is good now or i can’t read again.

[jolly verge]

Here's how it's looking like when you alarm the motion detector trap

[daring quarry]

i just had lunch what are people mad about

[rich reef]

Next DLC their gonna use C2 charges

[stable kernel]

Bro deleted the map

[pulsar lake]

Just bait from the beach and hit your shots

[jolly verge]

Yes it's good (stress gain from shooting and shouting is broken for suspects behind the walls)

[rich reef]

I don't think I've ever really had them come to me from activating the IR traps before

[jolly verge]

It's a small range, like 10 meters only

[rich reef]

Oh that makes sense

[umbral furnace]

How do you complete beat cop? I just did the mission solo in multiplayer with only a pistol/arrests and it still isn't done

[daring quarry]

aw i was about to ask if you could just spam the detector back and forth to make them congaline into your loving arms

[pulsar lake]

You can do that if you're positioned right

Although you could also compliance/flashlight bait for similar results

[jolly verge]

Did you use shield or anything else? Did you get at least C grade?

[umbral furnace]

A and literally just a pistol and handcuffs

[rich reef]

Someone should make a mod where you can bear hug suspects and they get knocked out if you squeeze hard enough

[daring quarry]

also ive found that if youre sneaky enough you can just b line towards the stairs and the suspects below dont really follow you

[umbral furnace]

didn't even use lockpick

[jolly verge]

Nope, you can trigger it only once, it's working just like audible alarm

[daring quarry]

im mirrorgunning a door and this guy is talking about "fractures, fractures, little tiny sharts"

[rich reef]

I got it from shooting a pistol a couple of times and dying early on into the mission in multiplayer on accident

[deft plume]

yikes I can't do hard solo ana anymore ig

I almost cleared 3rd floor then the rest of my restarts are always bs 2nd floor spawns

[jolly verge]

Well you can use lockpick for this specific trophy So unless you were on Casual or used something that not allowed it should be unlocked

[deft plume]

I'm holding down the crouch button

legit so unfair

[pulsar lake]

Really? 3rd floor always felt the hardest. What's your strat?

[daring quarry]

is it better to use flashes or gas for ana

[deft plume]

I think I had around 5 suspects in hard mode. this is my first day of programmed psychosis

[pulsar lake]

They're immune to gas

[daring quarry]

flashes it is

[deft plume]

r u talking abt hard or standard?

[rich reef]

"The outpost was north of Baghdad. The ground trembled when they fired from the hills."

[pulsar lake]

Hard. 3rd floor courtroom tends to kill my whole team or the intersection to the left kills me if I'm solo

[deft plume]

I just used the same tactics - baiting them out by yelling and free lean

[daring quarry]

does the AI swat team know how to use flash grenade launchers without running out of ammo at critical moments?

[pulsar lake]

Yeah, maybe I need to bait more

[deft plume]

I'm talking abt solo

[jolly verge]

Gas is useless unless you gonna smoke with it to blocks suspects vision

[deft plume]

dude I had to restart bc fucking mlo went nuts for reason shooting at walls

[pulsar lake]

I do both, mainly because the AI loses the 1s against the suspects

[deft plume]

they ended up killing a cuffed hostage

I only solo completed ANA standard mode took me around 30+ attempts

[daring quarry]

is there any advantage to running no helmet or is it just the acceleration stuff again

[deft plume]

lowkey I just have rng

sometimes there's below 5 suspects

[pulsar lake]

There's 0 reason to not run a helmet

[jolly verge]

Yeah, to die from just 1 hit Just wear ballistic mask there is no penalty except vignette effect on your screen

[deft plume]

but most of the times there's always at least 5 suspects smh

[charred snow]

sup pals

[pulsar lake]

And 0 reason to not run ballistic mask unless you're using the gas mask

[deft plume]

the blue security door 3rd floor is always opened smh

[umbral furnace]

ah so like 90% of the other ones it's also just buggy as shit

[jolly verge]

It's not buggy, you did something wrong i'm 100% sure. Well i did it only like 20 times to test instead of usual 100 runs, but it's never failed to unlock for me

[umbral furnace]

what could i possibly be doing wrong

I got an A solo in multiplayer without even swapping item from my pistol once

[jolly verge]

If you upload the clip i will be able to tell for sure

[rich reef]

What deployables would you guys say are allowed for this run? I'm gonna use ballistic protection.

[lost inlet]

Oh, they will always hesitated no matter how much stress they have?

[jolly verge]

I mean they will be below the stress threshold because all your shouts and shots did not affect them at all because of bug i guess

You still need to face and not ADS at them

[patent jewel]

Programmed psychosis run ended because I wanted to check at how much ammo I was left and missclicked to end the mission early, didn't get the achievment 😭

[lost inlet]

Of course it’s a bug.

1 bug fixed, 2 more game breaking one appears.

[jolly verge]

About the bugs. If you counter kick the kick of MLO he will be stuck in throwing the flashbang anim Idk if it's useful, they are very vulnerable anyway when breaching

[deft plume]

I don't fucking understand how the breached door goes through me

it's supposed to bump me

[rich reef]

So far not good

Yeah I don't think this possible solo

[deft plume]

dude I literally can't do hard solo ANA LMAOOOO

this shit feels so broken

[rigid ridge]

What is up with suspects killing civilians in under 30s on Hunger Strike? I can't even run across the map in the time they kill civs and they just keep doing it

[deft plume]

those programmed psychosis vids I watched don't have bs awareness

bro ppl were fucking right abt updates prediction

def almost a yr 😂 😂 😂 😂

this shit is so broken af

I literally crouch walk and they're somehow awared??? how????????

[umbral furnace]

also interesting i just shot a guy who was actively shooting at me and got civilian killed

[deft plume]

man civilians are so fucking stupid

toc: "there's hostages in this mission"

fucking hostages runs towards the suspects

wtf they don't want to get rescue?

[rich reef]

Im cornered

I hear them

[deft plume]

civilians are going against law enforcement

like there's gang members suspects around them or terrorist surround them and yet they panic and run away

[rich reef]

Yeah this challenge is fucking impossible

[deft plume]

I'm starting to lose my patience on civilians

[cedar mulch]

I’ve only just realised that the MLO is actually just as daft as SWAT, because their approach to breaching doors is exactly the same.

[deft plume]

I might just fucking shoot them if they don't obey my commands

[feral mango]

I don't get why people play multiplayer just to run by themselves?

[cedar mulch]

Black Sentinel is clearly far more terrifying than the MLO, which is why I find USSS Agents and Los Locos elite to be a greater threat

Of all the types of AI suspects, terrorists are the most oppressive

[rich reef]

Try using shift walk

Thats made to be silent

[cedar mulch]

BS are far more dangerous than MLOs, they use JHP rounds. Even if they hit the limbs, they can easily inflict massive damage.

[daring quarry]

i think it spawns no team

[deft plume]

bro isn't crouch walk the same as shift walk?

[cedar mulch]

Their figures are higher than those of the MLO.
So

[daring quarry]

did you know theres crates that refill ammo on a new america???

[rich reef]

Shift walk is slower and in the loading screen tips it says shift walking is silent

[mellow gyro]

Does it ? That’s wild, I’m guessing it doesn’t work 😂

[jolly verge]

You can slow walking and low-ready at the same time

They wont hear you

[rich reef]

Forgot about that but do you have to have zero ammo left for it to work cause I can't interact with them

[mellow gyro]

Not when I tried

[cedar mulch]

If the MLOs don’t have bulletproof helmets, what’s the point of VOID making these skins for them?

[daring quarry]

not sure i just found out they existed; they also refresh your throwables apparently

[rich reef]

I'm assuming I've been trying the wrong ones

Wtf some dude on Valley of the Dolls killed me in like a second from the party area while I was on the first floor

[mellow gyro]

https://tenor.com/view/hang-first-time-smiles-gif-14991372

[pulsar lake]

Probably balancing reasons

[rich reef]

First time from that far away

[pulsar lake]

Also helmets can't do much to save you irl from even decent pistol rounds

[cedar mulch]

I don’t think it’s a question of weighing up the pros and cons, because Los Locos elite and Secret Service agents are superior to the MLO in terms of both health and aggression.

[pulsar lake]

It's just a game and that mission is AIDS as is ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[deft plume]

yep I give up on the first day of programmed psychosis lmaoooooooooooo

I get it the awareness is increased but wtf

those programmed psychosis must be hella lucky to not have those crazy suspects spawn 2nd floor

[deft plume]

tried it it didn't really work

[marble flume]

probably free leaning peeks with a semi-auto shotgun

[deft plume]

ye I'm free leaning

[cedar mulch]

I think SWAT should be given the chance to make a brief dash. Severe stamina limitations

[floral dove]

ok, im going crazy. Is hit detection just bugged af now?

[rich reef]

Make sure you crouch too

[marble flume]

I don't even have my walk key bound to anything at all; if I want to do a slower walk, I just move while leaning left or right, since that slows you down and makes you a lot more accurate

[cedar mulch]

[deft plume]

but they fucking know where I am even tho I'm crouching and shift walking

[marble flume]

I haven't played ANA, so I don't know what their reaction to flashlights are, but that might work

[rich reef]

Crouch plus free lean can let you peek around walls without suspects being able to see you

Theres a video about it

[cedar mulch]

VOID should bring back the sprint mechanic, but it must be subject to strict stamina limits. A brief sprint at a crucial moment could save your life.

[pulsar lake]

It's always a problem

[rich reef]

https://youtu.be/53EdinDB77g?si=JfulFXfMkBFfvuMu

[deft plume]

I already know that lmao

[floral dove]

idk how they fucked that one up jfc. Like I literally have a recording of aiming dead center at a guys head from 5ft away and it misses somehow

[deft plume]

and I watched that vid already

[rich reef]

Ah okay

[deft plume]

gawd now I have to always free lean before entering a room fuck man

standard mode solo ana I didn't really have to free lean that much

mostly baiting

[daring quarry]

man the 3 minute time crunch stresses me out everytime

[deft plume]

I already know how to free lean

so ig I just free lean crouch for hard mode everytime now

I gotta spam it more than I did in standard mode ana

[pulsar lake]

Yeah it's kinda ridiculous

[deft plume]

man so I can only use the baiting tactics a little bit???

the whole time I’m just free leaning

fuck man I like using the baiting tactics so much

[floral dove]

Yeah I would avoid it personally. Suspects moving and shooting is bad on hard mode

can remember multiple times where moving/sprinting enemies just one shot me from a considerable distance

[deft plume]

oh brother

this is going to be so fucking boring to play

[floral dove]

considering im on attempt 200+ of programmed psychosis, yes it will lol

[deft plume]

you didn't complete it yet?

[floral dove]

On hard difficulty alone? No

[vast chasm]

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[tidal maple]

I'm curious if anyone else has noticed this since the newest update. My camera has been acting up a bit, kind of shaking around. I’ve already checked my controller for stick drift, so I don’t think that's the issue. Just wanted to see if anyone has experienced the same issue im having if there's anyway on fixing it thanks.

[vivid widget]

feels weird that especially for an active shooter situation you can't sprint, even though officers are likely sprinting towards the building in real life

[deft plume]

sprinting mod def makes it op lmao

I never used mods before

[potent harbor]

is polo shirt at 30 hours of playtime and 2 attempts good

[zinc lantern]

no

[cedar mulch]

Because VOID believes that slowness is the very definition of tactical realism. So they turned the players into invalids.

[vivid widget]

ayup

[wooden jungle]

k

[frigid sand]

can you get developers ruined watch on casual ready or not pc

[mellow gyro]

I’m pretty sure it’s only Standard or hard

[deft plume]

yes

[deft plume]

man ig you can’t really use that much baiting in hard mode ana

fuck it I’ll use flashlight bait again

anglerfish

idk ana hard solo feels so buggy lmao

why tf would the devs increase suspects awareness in hard mode lmao

suspects awareness is so mad buggy

[dire raft]

Would someone like help me doing Hide and Seek to get the FISA plate carrier

[tranquil arch]

Port Hokan

[tranquil arch]

I can help you, are you trying to A rank or S rank?

[dire raft]

Either one if which

I’m missing both trophies for completing all base missions on hard & or on S rank

Luckily the rating is not important on Hard difficulty

[tranquil arch]

I S-ranked all base game missions on hard in ironman mode before, I can help if you want to S-rank Port Hokan on hard

[dire raft]

Da hell

[dire raft]

That’s crazy
Did you use the flash grenade launcher?

[tranquil arch]

No I used pepperball. Took me 2 months and I almost lost the save at Elephant

[dire raft]

Btw if u close the game right when u die u don’t lose ur iron mode progress

I had so many dumb moments where I died because my ai swat mates wouldn’t listen to my commands

[tranquil arch]

Yeah I managed to do that when I died on Elephant this run. But in the past runs it didn't work so one time I lost a one-week save at Valley

[daring quarry]

you guys know you can beat a mission with an F rank?

[tranquil arch]

Shoot every civilian and your own teammates

[daring quarry]

didnt even shoot my teammates

[tranquil arch]

Yeah IK. But I just do it in these runs

[dire raft]

I’m getting some energy drinks from the store

[pseudo hull]

are nvgs bugged right now

it gets darker when i put them on

might just be a bug with the mod im using

fullscreen nvg

[spark bay]

Hey did the game get updated recently or something? I keep loosing all audio with only the music playing and then it earrapes me when the music ends and i can hear again.

Okay ignore me
I just checked bug report and its a thing

Awesome

[valid raven]

am I the only one that like never uses the map tools

Something that would be nice is spray paint

To mark walls and stuff to show the room is clear

I know in real life a slash means a team is already in room

[opal forum]

Thats the use of chemlights

[valid raven]

It would be nice if we got multiple colors

Although there’s only one team so it’s not really necessary

[chilly python]

true true

[frank cairn]

For Achievements like Beat Cop or Way our West:

Is the team allowed to be used? If yes, do they need the same armament? Whats the catch here?

I still try to figure out what i do wrong.
I soloed it all time, but get fed up by it and the team would make it faster by now.
Its just so intransparent, why its not working.

[frank cairn]

Yes, thanks a lot.

[opal forum]

Get close and deactivate with the multitool

What I know so far is that suspects are the ones who activate their own vest. Civillians cant activate their vest

[frank cairn]

In both my S Rank run and Ironman Run I never actively saw that civi bomb vests blew up.
Is that a thing?

I understand that, but as said, I never actively saw it happen. I thought its a flavour thing for the mission.

Alright, good to know

[chilly swan]

i think it only goes off when the civilian dies/gets shot (i removed the funny tiktok link bc it didn't embed and I don't want to encourage clicking on links from strangers)

[frank cairn]

On Beat Cop it didnt work.
I used a Lethal Pistol. Let my team handle all stuff.
I never let them use Nades, too.
Just shooting.

These Achievements are so bullshit and plainly frustrating, if you dont know what is wrong.

[chilly swan]

oh god did the suspects do it

[frank cairn]

Gosh, this is so bull. If you need to be naked, why doesnt the achievement stays that? And why do the devs dont be clear on that?
I saw YT vids with weapon mods and full gear, where it works, but apparently its a try and error riddle.
Its so annyoing. And a thing for years, now.

Ok, I try again 😄

[chilly swan]

every day I play this game, Programmed Psychosis almost seems more sensible than playing with the AI team on hard mode

[frank cairn]

Aaaaaaaaaaaaand didnt work too 😄

I try Beat Cop

I use S2011-P, no attachments
Heavy Vest, full, Ceramic, Shield on the Back
Helmet, with no attachments

My squad is lockpicking, arresting, cuffing, evidence, all of it.
No Nades used at all.
I have 3 Nades on me, but never used them.
Do these passive nades break it?

Seriously, how can the Devs be happy with that?

And while I tried it I saw so many issues on the Team, too.
I dont command them as much as today and so often they just stop in animation and dont do anything.
While cuffing a Suspect drew a gun and started shooting and the Officer cuffing didnt react, just standing there.
Or you make an open clear command and Alpha opens the door and then run around the house. 😄

I guess they are a small team, but these are just fun breaking things.
Those achievements should be a fun break from normal gameplay and not tedious mysteries to solve.

For me it shows how old stuff stays in game with things like Front Grips not visually used by player or AI (on older grips) or magic shells in hand reloads on one of the shotguns.
Its in from the start and never got looked at it again.
It seems that as long as it works somehow they move on.

Had the same issue with Way out West

Anyways, thanks deeply for your help and efforts.

[marble flume]

AI probably works on Hard with Armorer, Nutri and two Veterans to make them absolute snipers

I'd also probably give them AP batlle rifles for bypassing level 4 armor and maximum wall penetration

[chilly swan]

Haha yer fair, I was mostly saying that one liner to sound cool.

In reality, I found with the flash launchers, two pacifiers, an intimidator and negotiator, its probs the furthest I can go for proper de-escalation tactics. Which for me is huge, because it seems like with the current tools available, there's a lot more ways to "create orphans and windows" vs trying to de-escalate.

But its a gamble to let them clear rooms on their own on Hard Mode. And because my paternal instinct eats away at me every time one of the fellas dies, it's mostly me taking point for each room with them playing cleanup crew.

I think the only level I couldn't take point all the time (b.c. I would have ran out of ammo) was ANA,. And even then, as soon as I got to the final floor I was taking point again to flashbang everything in the vicinity of the spiral staircases, because survival is never in my favour otherwise.

[molten flame]

chat

why does void interactive avoid their community more than discord support avoids emails

[valid raven]

Yeah but those are trailers not SWAT

And TEMs

Because have a have a duty to provide medical care after a shooting remember the goal is to eliminate the threat that does often result in death

hence why double tapping is a violation because the threat is eliminated and while they may not be dead they are no longer a threat, so any further force is excessive

A lot of it is human psychology, though negativity tends to stand out

also, does anyone else find a lot of players struggle to differentiate between eliminate and kill

when I was talking about with eliminate the threat versus kill the threat?

I mean, you shoot them until they can’t fight back or surrender and when I use non-lethal I like to have a lethal backup because some people have such high morale. It doesn’t matter how many times you shoot them

Less lethal offen works but not every time

[left matrix]

I joined a lobby and it looks like a massive cloud has entered the PD - is this normal?

[valid raven]

No

I thought you meant trailers

also, red and blue are not teams. They are elements.

[left matrix]

aight cheers

[valid raven]

Redering bug

does anyone actually care about the story because it doesn’t seem like people do?

also, is there somewhere where I can see the missions in their cannon order?

Because the only thing I can remember is the gas station is canonically the first mission

oh so some of the missions take place in the near future

[gentle void]

[deft plume]

how do u know?

[azure mulch]

are evidences obtainable with casual

[naive herald]

Yes

[azure mulch]

than kyou

[hexed wharf]

Just had a funny incident where I was playing 'The Spider' And The main Target who you have to arrest rushed me as I opened a door, and he got hit face first with an M320 flash

He lived, somehow (I was thankfully wearing anti-flash goggles)

[bright belfry]

Hit an MLO guy with a flash while he was throwing a flash grenade and he one tapped me at 60 ms

[hexed wharf]

Ouch

[graceful silo]

5 gigabytes for a patch?

[sleek rune]

its safe to say he wont see for a while

[deft plume]

dude how do you auto restart before entering esc button?

[frank cairn]

Yes...OOOOHHH...ok, good idea.
Will try that

Thanks for spending so much time with it.

[cinder elbow]

Something that fucked the achievment for me was, if you for example, tell your team to open - grenade/utility clear that actually counts as you using it, as soon as I did the mission and didnt use my team it popped lol

100% could just be a me thing

I just remember doing like 5 runs of it not poping, no nvgs, ram as utility, no trophy. As soon as I ran it barely using my team, and if I did get them to breach itd just be open/clear/kick/clear and it popped first time.

100% could just be a fluke though no doubt.

[jolly verge]

SWAT AI can use anything but shield and deploy command

[frank cairn]

It is just so wild haha

[frank cairn]

Yeah I just told them to open, with no Nades, just to avoid it

[cinder elbow]

All I know is fuck that trophy.

[winter sphinx]

Update?

4.53 G

[cinder elbow]

Yeah, just the PS5 crashing issues.

Haha well atleast the community know.

Yeah sadly Indie/AA games are the only ones with soul left now.

For some reason I do gravitate towards the broken jank genre.

I played console DayZ for a year I must be mentally ill I don't know how I did it.

I played it on PS4 I think, but I would imagine it has mods on PC so ofcourse it'd be better

Payday was a great time though

Honestly just look into the missions before you buy, I'd say they're all worth it though.

[frank cairn]

idk of sale soo.n
For me the DLCs are always no brainers, because I like the game and thats support for the team

[cinder elbow]

If you're on steam probably soon

They do sales all the time, on PS5 I know the game was on sale it might still be

[frank cairn]

YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO I GOT BEAT COP

YES 😄

[cinder elbow]

Is that for Narcos?

[frank cairn]

Yes

[cinder elbow]

Gg

[frank cairn]

Thanks for the immense help and support 🙂

[frank cairn]

Thank you.

Now I will try Way out West again.

[cinder elbow]

I'm gonna go for the DLC trophies at some point im just still fufilled after the Platinum.

Yurp

[frank cairn]

Worst part is, I thought I need to solo these maps initially and I did that multiple times, without getting it and THEN learning: Team is allowed 😄

[cinder elbow]

That is so unfortunate, if I had to do Programmed Phsycosis for Plat I wouldn't have bothered

I want to do it eventually but I know it's gonna be so painful.

[frank cairn]

At some point I will try it too

[lilac mural]

Just to be sure was the PS5 issues fixed with the patch?

[frank cairn]

Did Way out West same way as Beat Cop
Didnt work

2 Cops died. Is that an issue, too?
Or a certain ranking?

Oh is that an issue, too? 😄
Geez, I need to write a recipe down.
It was unintenioally. I pressed y to fall in, to reset Squad AI

Ready or Not Part2: Issue or Not 😄

[marble flume]

is this for Way out West? You can use a modded revolver, any armor you want, I've heard conflicting reports about NVGs, and don't lockpick doors. Also don't give your AI members shields

You can also avoid restraining too, just to be safe. Just melee civilians then tell them to run to exit

[frank cairn]

Yeah thats what I do all time now.
Only stay on my pistol/Revolver and let AI do it all, but no nades, etc

[marble flume]

Also, go for at least a C ranking

[marble flume]

Outside of shields I'm pretty sure the AI can literally use anything

Honestly, I feel like restraining should be safe, but I have no idea tbh

[jolly verge]

You need at least C grade

[marble flume]

Yeah, but actually equipping them doesn't even do anything, you can't even left-click while holding them to arrest anyone

[frank cairn]

Of course

[jolly verge]

You can ADS with them to stress out the suspects

[marble flume]

I think once upon a time you actually had to equip zipties in order to arrest anyone (SWAT 4 style) , but that shit was axed a longass time ago

If that includes Greased Palms, then yeah thats really good

[frank cairn]

Try with Bean Bag^^

[marble flume]

mainly hard due to just shit terrain, the actual difficulty isn't really that bad unless you're on Hard

Relapse will make you question every life choice you've ever made

[frank cairn]

Yes

[marble flume]

I recently scored an S rank on Relapse on Hard difficulty, and my only real piece of advice for that is to use free lean and also abuse the fuck out of flashlights lmao

I think its possible to get -3000 score if you can incap every suspect, then kill them while they're on the ground, as well as farming as many negative points on civilians as possible

[frank cairn]

Idk
I believe most of the Security Detail just believe they protect a Corn King and not P...
Those 2 guys in the basement who are not Security...they are surely part of Spider Crew

[marble flume]

I really cannot be convinced most of the people we're fighting actually have any idea what they're guarding. Take Sinuous Trail, for example; I really don't think those guards actually know what the hell is going on, because frankly, why would they?

[frank cairn]

Yeah absolutely true
Matches their calls, too

[fervent terrace]

How come thare inst a map editor in ready or not swat4 a game from 2007 had this feature

[marble flume]

The guards on VoTD seem to know something pretty nefarious is going on, but they don't seem to actually know any of the details. They know something bad's happening though, because a lot of their voicelines seem to indicate taking a paycheck over "the right thing"

[fervent terrace]

I guess

[frank cairn]

Data Center.
Guards with White Clothes

[fervent terrace]

Does anybody have an idea for an effective stratagy to s tier the new dlc

[frank cairn]

Flash launcher

[marble flume]

That's Mindjot, and thay actually engage the police because they've been taught not to trust the police in the first place, since nefarious actors have actually impersonated police in the past

[fervent terrace]

Ye

[fervent terrace]

It has a very limited ammo count

[marble flume]

That's why a lot of em say shit like "whats your badge number" or "i didn't fuckin know you were cops"

[frank cairn]

I never ran out of it and its best way to do it
Feels like cheating

[fervent terrace]

Mods dont count toward official scorea

[marble flume]

shit you can rock 17 rounds for that sucker with heavy armor equipped

[fervent terrace]

For what reason brhu

[frank cairn]

And I have M320 Launcher too, which adds 4 Flashs

[marble flume]

to quote Fleekazoid

"I do BELIEVE it was Austin, 3:16 that said...

24 mags should be enough to maintain the peace"

[fervent terrace]

Cause i need that fir the achivments

You sure?

What in the world could juatify six hundrads rounds of 40 mike mike flash grmades

Oopsy daisy as in oops i mag dumped you with 40 mike mike

[marble flume]

at that point I'd pack 600 stingers and try to kill every suspect on a map just with those lol

[fervent terrace]

How can you run out of 600 hundrad mags of 40 mike mike i can wage a war on a small third world country with that ammo count

Why just play groumd bramch at this point

600 times are you mental

I think 600 rounds of 40 mike mike into somthing is attempted genocide

Ye right

Brhu

[frank cairn]

And Way out West done

Yeah
Stuff like "My Eyes burns", Sleeper Agent", "Big Shell Specialist"

I dint even know how Sleeper Agent is possible haha

[pliant juniper]

I was doing S Tier hard mode for ‘A lethal obsession’, sent my team in to get the last guy and I trusted them with a beanbag shotgun. Get A+ because they kill him 🫩

[frank cairn]

15 suspsects in 15 secs...I am oblivious how to do it, but there will be surely some cheesy strategies

[pliant juniper]

just my luck when it was the last guy

Last time I ever trust them with a shotgun

[frank cairn]

I guess 😄

[onyx geyser]

Glad to know the audio and crash issue for ps5 if finally fixed, the game was almost unplayable

[deft plume]

dw void will take months off of not updating the game

[stiff light]

did the game get a hotfix recently? i reported a cheese method for “programmed psychosis” a week ago or so and now people are saying it got hotfixed

[golden dust]

anyone know anything about the hidden loadout weapons?

[warm talon]

The dlc weapons?

[golden dust]

nah like the cut weapons

I have some saved but I'm curious how much are actually there

wondering if there's any way to get them on console, feel bad for my friends who watch me use them but can't

[deft plume]

what is it?

[stiff light]

complete in in COOP, kick everyone at the end, do not report dead bodies, soft complete/arrest the last civilian alone

it was a real thing because thats how i got it, but its been hotfixed i think, everybody is saying it doesn’t work anymore

[deft plume]

dude

that fucking on the right room of the piano room of ana there's fucking invisible wall blocking me

[merry lagoon]

What's the best loadout for solo'ing "A New America" that worked for you on hard?

[stiff light]

a lot of people go with the buckshot, a couple wedges and flashbangs

[deft plume]

ppl say shotguns are much better to use than battle rifles and assault rifles

[stiff light]

generally if you abuse freelean and play slow you will find yourself consistently getting to floor 4/4 but thats the exponentially harder part

[deft plume]

why so?

[merry lagoon]

My problem is always the last room with my current setup, trying to figure out if I should tweak the setup or approach it differently.

[deft plume]

also why is ana hard mode has so many bs spawns

straight up wtf

[stiff light]

theres definitely a lot of RNG in that last floor and room, you ideally want them all to rush the stairs for easy kills tbh, ive had it happen more than once where 4 rush the stairs and then theres only 1/2 left in the flowerman room

[deft plume]

how do you even bait them out so easily besides using flashlight?

[marble flume]

I mean, as long as you kinda hit the shot its basically a guarantee that you've got either a dead suspect or a stunlocked suspect, which is more than can be said for other weapons on Hard

[deft plume]

yelling never works

[umbral furnace]

How do you do the party crasher achievement?

i've S ranked the mission twice so surely that counts as apprehending the dude before civilians are killed

[jolly verge]

Before the order is given to kill civilians, just save them is not enough

[umbral furnace]

idk then, he was literally in the first room i breached and surrendered immediately

[idle mauve]

so does anyone know the unlock conditions for the freight watch or whatever its called? when i s-ranked ana on standard i didnt get it but when i s-ranked on hard i got it

[idle mauve]

just spawn at sun deck

[umbral furnace]

my spawn isn't the problem? he was arrested within 60 seconds of me loading in

[idle mauve]

ik but normally thats where he spawns closest to u

i mean i can join u if u want help

[umbral furnace]

just s ranked it again and arrested the main guy less than 30 seconds in. it's either bugged or has a extra condition on it which isn't shown

[marble flume]

fuck me I hate how I have to lock the SWATs into a box so they don't do anything stupid

[near topaz]

did the usia just put Judge in the lspd to lure the mlo?😂

and then the mlo tries to lure judge in

so bait is used to lure bait

[warm talon]

I just play in a multiplayer lobby.

[marble flume]

the issue is i really want the commander traits lol

[restive jay]

cuz even if u miss u still blow off a limb

[floral lance]

how long ago was the last RON content update?

[broken venture]

Where's the info on the update?

[next lynx]

Finally S-Ranked every level on hard mode with squad AI

[feral mango]

massochist

was trying to s rank 23 mbps on hard and my squad keeps dying

how the hell has anyone completed programmed psychosis? ive only tried a couple hard games but everytime i get lazerbeamed by the first guy i see.

[sudden thorn]

Two to three months I believe

[karmic raven]

Don't ask me why I bothered to do this, but I figured out a way to effectively negate recoil, even without attachments.

[quasi coral]

It's not fair man, how do posers in a hospital get to laze me through the smallest gap in the doorway with pin point accuracy

[quasi coral]

Was it 2 or 3 months ago? I think around then

[feral mango]

greased palms is probably super painful

[quasi coral]

You don't even get a chance son
Someones gotta seriously stop putting 10 second timers for messages

[sudden thorn]

They should lower it or just remove it entirely there’s no point to it currently

[quasi coral]

5 seconds is it for me honestly

[sudden thorn]

True that would work

[floral lance]

yikes lol

[quasi coral]

It's prolly cause of spam

[floral lance]

time for some more content

[quasi coral]

They honestly just need to release a patch between those months fixing like, the actual bugs in game

My thumbs been clipping into the PEQ-15 for ages now

[karmic raven]

I think they add it after every update, just so channels don't get spammed with people bitching about AVOID doing their thing...

[sudden thorn]

Now that you mention it yeah I hate how half the time your thumb clips through that laser which sucks as it’s my favourite one to use but I can’t because of how dumb it looks with the thumb clipping through

[sudden thorn]

Yeah, after updates happen put it on but after a while just take it off as it’s unnecessary

[karmic raven]

They do, don't they? Maybe I just haven't been paying attention lol

[marble flume]

to be fair, those hospital nerds are fairly high speed, but they're also one of the few maps where suspects just shoot on sight immediately, so its a real pain

[sudden thorn]

It’s still on now so no

[quasi coral]

Especially on that walkway, they just rain HELL on you

[marble flume]

the walkway is never my issue, just hold a riot shield and you're fine since you're only ever really shot from one direction right there

but they flank like a mfer in the building, and that one lady nerd with an rpk has ended a good number of my runs

[quasi coral]

Right? The combat grip and peq-15 combo is so cag

[karmic raven]

Well, they just put out a patch today, so...lol

[sudden thorn]

It was still on days before that

[sudden thorn]

True

[quasi coral]

But like, all the cool guns have it clipping with the combo, the LVAR, ARWC, MCX Virtus, GA416, MK18, what else?

[karmic raven]

🤷‍♂️ Guess I just haven't been paying attention

[sudden thorn]

trying to make your gun look cool but stupid judge is shoving his thumb into the laser sight

[quasi coral]

I don't carry the shield lol, only my point-man does

[sudden thorn]

Shield is useless for me I hate using it

[quasi coral]

That lady has never done anything to me, but she always ends up being the one to cause officer casuelties, I usually give her a personal greeting myself

[marble flume]

I'm out here playing the maps on hard, a riot shield is basically mandatory lol

I don't even use pistols on Hard, its just nice to have a bulletproof plank that I can equip

[quasi coral]

For eel 😭

Dumbass

[marble flume]

On my successful S-rank run on Hard difficulty, I found the vigilante chick literally on top of the main terrorist leader guy that she "supposedly" wants to air the fuck out lmao

[quasi coral]

Yea I see why, I stay on standard though

[sudden thorn]

I love how canonically she’s a vigilante trying to avenge the neon nightclub victims but she doesnt even target the hand members and only goes for you
which I know its a gameplay thing for s ranks but still

[quasi coral]

Yea, I'm wondering if she's truly there to stop them or not, the lore doesn't make sense with gameplay

[marble flume]

Thats a common trend with the entire goddamn video game, honestly lmao. The lore does NOT match the game

[quasi coral]

Right?? How did we come to the conclusion anyway, I forgot

[quasi coral]

Yea it's weird lol, but I've gotten used to it already

[sudden thorn]

It’s so weird how at the beginning of missions toc will say that negotiations have failed but for some maps it wouldn’t even make sense for them to even have negotiated with them because they have conversation and lines as if they didn’t even know you were there until now

Don’t know why voll’s guards are yelling “they sent a swat team?” When they’ve supposedly been hailed at for an hour

[quasi coral]

Yea that's one thing that's really been bugging me, it's happened way more than I remember

[marble flume]

Oh yeah, or they talk about an active shooter when there isn't one, or how "negotiations have failed" on a map where we definitely didn't even try negotiations and its not a barricaded suspects scenario

[sudden thorn]

true

[karmic raven]

I mean that's what happens when you only have 2 types of missions active shooter/barricaded suspects lol

[marble flume]

"negotiations failed" on the Gas Station map? I can believe that since its a barricaded suspects.

"active shooter" on 23 Megabytes? I can believe that, since its a fake SWAT call.

I don't believe any fucking thing he says on maps like VoTD or Hide and Seek though, because those are just straight-up preemptive attacks and aren't called in at all

[sudden thorn]

There is a single raid mission in the game being the elysian hotel which I find really weird why they keep these mission tags at all if they only use three of them and one of those gets used once

[marble flume]

Like, SWAT 4 has "High Risk Warrant Service" iirc, which is a decent chunk of missions in Ready or Not are, yet they aren't referred by that whatsoever

Greased Palms, Ends of The Earth, Valley of The Dolls, Hide and Seek, Rust Belt, etc

There aren't any active shooters and we sure as shit didn't tell any of those fucks we were coming

[sudden thorn]

they shouldve just blown up the los suenos postal service with dynamite to kill all the los locos members inside and save players from the torment of playing that mission

civilians will die but it’s a mandatory sacrifice

[marble flume]

that being said, SWAT 4's hospital map is easily better than RoNs because of the fact that the goddamn press gives away your entrance into the building lmao

[karmic raven]

I think the only mission that qualifies as actually barricaded suspects is A Lethal Obsession since it's supposed to essentially be Ruby Ridge

[marble flume]

Gas Station is barricaded suspects since its basically a robbery gone wrong iirc, and I'd think Neon Tomb also counts as a barricaded suspects

[karmic raven]

Ok true, didn't think about that

[marble flume]

Relapse too, basically Neon Tomb part 2

[cedar mulch]

In case you didn’t know, I reckon VOID’s favourite group is Los Locos, because they’ve appeared so many times. https://ready-or-not.fandom.com/wiki/Los_Locos_del_Pacificos

[marble flume]

honestly that might be it though, Elephant is active shooter and I think basically every other standard mission is you carrying out a warrant

[cedar mulch]

Their postal ai and fast-food ai are absolutely dreadful

[marble flume]

30 second active shooter timer on hard

[karmic raven]

Sins of the Father is definitely barricaded suspects too, I forgot about that one

[cedar mulch]

The AI performance at Car dealerships and in Rust Belt is actually much more normal

[austere rain]

for the love of god when is void gonna fix the G18 reload bug

it has gotten me killed numerous times

[karmic raven]

Soon™

[glass heart]

months if youre lucky

js avoid the weapon until they unfuck it

(if they unfuck it)

[undone ruin]

they let mods fix it for them

[feral mango]

Wish there was a lobby browser instead of just randomly joining a game

[karmic raven]

We desperately need a button to tell the AI team to fuck off when they try to arrest someone. Elephant is so much easier when I can tell the civilians to leave the building instead of arresting them, but I have to body block the AI team from cuffing them to be able to do that.

[undone ruin]

I think the hold command stops them.

Although I wish I could solo sweep a small room w/o having to fight them to get back out

[feral mango]

You can tell people to leave instead of cuffing?

[undone ruin]

yeah, same wayy you pull up commands on a door

it's contextual

[karmic raven]

Yep. Look at any surrendering person and open the interaction menu. You can tell them to leave. You can also tell them to move after they're cuffed.

[humble portal]

Does anyone know how to fix the issue going on with "Can't connect to the host" for Xbox?

[feral mango]

Does that effect score negatively or still like cuffing?

[undone ruin]

Counts the same

[karmic raven]

They still get detained like cuffing, it just moves them off the map so they don't get caught in the crossfire

[undone ruin]

As long as they're not killed on the way to the exit

[karmic raven]

^True

[feral mango]

I did not know this. Will try

[karmic raven]

It's funny, though. In every other mission up to Elephant, the AI didn't want to cuff people. I'd have to tell them to do it. The second I load up Elephant, I can't stop them from doing it...the more I play, the more I realize just how atrocious the AI is.

[edgy trench]

Wedge tool does not even dissappear after picking it off from the door.

Everyone saw that bug?

Sadly these kinda minor bugs are killing the realistics of this game.

[lost inlet]

oh, it's still presents.

[magic lagoon]

Just updating the game, did VOID fix the audio?

[lost inlet]

which one to be specific?

[edgy trench]

That's definitively baddest bug ever in RoN on my opinion that we see at all time.

[magic lagoon]

The audio cutting out and playing everything that happened in the last 2-3 minutes in one second

[lost inlet]

i only had that kind of bug due to lagging.

so i'm not sure.

[mellow gyro]

You’re on ps5 right?

[magic lagoon]

Affirm

[mellow gyro]

Yeah that’s a bug only for you guys, it’s been like that for like two weeks to a month god knows when they’ll fix it

[dim leaf]

gotta be honest the flash resistance gotta be tuned down some

its not very rare to routinely get a guy that takes 4 to surrender

[karmic raven]

Yes. They put out a patch today that fixed it.

[feral mango]

Does anyone use the nightvision and on what level? Feel like none are dark enough to warrant it. Maybe the drug addict level

[karmic raven]

I literally only use it on Twisted Nerve lol

[azure mulch]

does ironman requires you to complete every mission in commander first

[opaque zealot]

honestly i feel like night vision still needs the flashlight bc theres some dark spots not even the white phosphorus will fully illuminate

no night vision wp alterations mods are updated yet so we stuck w the base until then

[azure mulch]

💔

[dire raft]

Best color for NVG is white

[half goblet]

how do i get the Eye Of Providence trophy? what even counts as a "major interactable" (i already did the bank and A New America's ||secret ending||)

[feral mango]

this game is pretty great online when u have a decent team. but goddamn if spectating the helmet cam doesnt nearly make me nauseous

[burnt gazelle]

Laptop and PC, power switch, alarm switch, vault and safe, CCTV, elevator buttons, TVs

[feral mango]

too many people just run around and run right past civilians and weapons without cuffing or bagging them up

can you get in the bank vault in the bank level? you can interact with the keypad

but it said access denied

[half goblet]

CCTV, elevators, power, switches, alarms and TVs are all on ANA?

[burnt gazelle]

yes

and the safe, vault, laptop and pc on all gods burn

[half goblet]

the weapon caches things don't count?

[half goblet]

i should have already done them, but i'll do it again after ANA

[burnt gazelle]

https://games.gg/ready-or-not/guides/ready-or-not-all-gods-burn-vault-guide/

you can follow this guide to get to the vault

[burnt gazelle]

i dont think so

[half goblet]

i can do it on Casual right? ANA on console is pain💔

[burnt gazelle]

Yes, I got it on casual too 😄

[half goblet]

thank you, i'll try it in an hour

[burnt gazelle]

good luck!!

[misty tide]

If an officer dies then gets revived during a mission by a paramedic can I still get the devs watch and the Kermit achievement?

[dire raft]

Revived? 👀

I got the Hermit trophy despite one of my officer had a crisis and went for holiday

[misty tide]

Well I’m lucky my officers didn’t resign earlier I had to uh eliminate 12 suspects…

[narrow geode]

#👮ron-discussion message
Here

So yeah
Don't let them get incapacitated

[misty tide]

So I’ll wont get the achievement but the watch?

But thanks for the help.

Just wondering because I got to “ ends of the earth “ mission.

Now I have a second question which may seem stupid but:

Can I unlock the devs ruined watch in Ironman mode on causal?

Or does it require standard+?

[narrow geode]

#👮ron-discussion message

[misty tide]

Thanks again.

[dire raft]

It literally says it on the screen …

[half goblet]

the alarms that spray water can only be activated once, this means that i have to do a ANA run for EVERY. SINGLE. switch?

[burnt gazelle]

You shouldn’t, I activated them only once too

They were too annoying to activate them more than that 😹

[half goblet]

and you still got the achievement?

[burnt gazelle]

Yes

[marble flume]

i feel like NVGs just have me seeing the same amount of nothing in a different color; they're only useful when the lighting is just insanely aggressive like on Neon Tomb

[robust nacelle]

can I get the hermit if a officer quits?

[wind gyro]

yes

not the watch tho

[narrow geode]

i like the rtwc its like sr16 but doesnt use the trash 5.56 rounds so its better

[lost inlet]

puny cringe 5.56.

[opaque zealot]

megatruth

there was a white phosphorus mod that made them actually practical in the dark but since the bp update theyve been unable to work

[frank cairn]

Haha I just watched a video on it and it looks like tedious work 😄

Did you record it?

Ok what was your approach?

Wild

[solemn patio]

They need to give the mlo less armor or less speed

[robust nacelle]

If u could only use one gun what would it be?

[solemn patio]

G3

Or ARN180

I hate how janky some of the gun handling feels

Why does judge fuck around so much in the 6.5 press check

It pisses me off dude just look in the mag and stick it back in

A suspect just punched me so i blew his shit smooth off

Dude i have fucking olympic sprinters

I couldnt run as fast as a bsg dude even if he had armor and i had none

And he can shoot and run too what the fuck who okayed this

Im not up against delta force here

[solemn patio]

I know its possible but if they can i should be able to as well considering im an mkultra supersoldier according the lore

[solemn patio]

Oh my fucking god I hate a new america i fucking hate it

[frank cairn]

Do you sometimes feel that hitreg is off?

Sometimes I hit suspects with a Rifle round and they are 0% bothered, move and shoot normally.
It feels like I never hit at all.
And sometimes its crazy how many rounds they can take, which adds to my idea, if the hitreg is working 100% correct, or its some wild thing like animation isnt overwritten by a hit.

[hybrid belfry]

Ur not alone 🥹

[solemn patio]

MLO are tougher than normal, this on ana?

Or all levels, cause yeah i feel it

[frank cairn]

Generally speaking.
On Relapse, half naked in Hospital clothes.
6.5 Creedmoor in the chest, he doesnt care.

Or fakes gun down, attacks and I shot before he did and he didnt care.

As if Bullet goes through with no effect

[solemn patio]

Ap or jhp

[frank cairn]

AP
I know JHP more effective against no armour, but I believe a person with no armor would show signs of reaction if an AP round hits you

[bright belfry]

Hit an unarmored dude with buckshot and he didn’t react

[frank cairn]

Yeah, exactly that bs.
Doesnt make sense

[bright belfry]

Takes like 10 shots from anything 9mm for any suspect to react

[frank cairn]

I try to avoid pistol calibers at that point. Always feel like they have some subdermal armour

[bright belfry]

In hard I’m pretty sure they do

That’s where I’m seeing the most bullshit

[solemn patio]

I think theyd probably fall over dead

People have died to less powerful calibers

[solemn patio]

What.

[bright belfry]

Hit em in the chest one of the cartel dudes on greased palms

[frank cairn]

Sometimes maybe
But I am not totally blind. I see sight 100% align with the suspects and it still can happen.

Could it be bad coding? 😉
I can rule out skill issue all time (of course happens, but not all times)
I had moments where I tried Beat Cop and suspects were bendingover in pain and they still need 3-4 bullets more and they were all 100% hits.
Sometimes its half a mag

Hope they look into it.

Anyways, trying "Toxic Fumes" now
Hope it works as always

[wanton pond]

I hate when a gun glitches and I cant report it :|

[cinder elbow]

So I wonna run the g18c but I've heard it's bugged, what is the bug?

[frank cairn]

So...Flashlight are ok for these weird achievements? Because without I see shit in Twisted Nerve 😄

[cedar mulch]

MLO isn't as threatening as Black Sentinel

[solemn patio]

The black sentinel when I pull out a five seven and a shield

Or a P90 and a devious plan

Until the MLO bully me for using a p90

[raw moss]

For all of the unlockable avatar items does anything need to be bought to unlock them, or just the normal game? (PS5, I bought the game but no add-ons)

[frank cairn]

Got it.
Flashlights and PDA allowed (looked at the computer without thinking)

[frank cairn]

Some items need DLCs, most need certain rankings on missions

[raw moss]

Alright thanks

[frank cairn]

How exactly do I get Emperor chievo?
Just have 12 different officers ability wise in roster?

[azure mulch]

guys is it possible to unequip weapons

[frank cairn]

no

How does "Door Kicker" unlock?
I have 2 Kickers in my team, kicked in doors, and nothing happens

Yeah
got it now
Was maybe bugged

How I can reset suspect who just dont give up?
I have 1 guy remaining, we all have non lethal and he always snapps out of it and attacks.

[balmy patio]

what map and what suspect

if its the fisa guy at the stairs of the 2nd floor you just gotta incap him thats been a bug for quite a bit

anybody else gets reset by using the taser especifically mostly

like when civilians get softlocked by using the exit command

[frank cairn]

First mission, random suspect.
I want to get Empreror and wnat quick runs so first mission, but 1 guy is a terminator

[balmy patio]

tasers the main way to reset those npcs in those situations since its stun is coded differently than the rest of the others

its a different "status effect"

but yeah the only one thats hard locked is the fisa guy in that glitched spot he wont give up no matter what if hes stuck there

[frank cairn]

No taser, no Lethal gun. Luckily my team headshottet him finally with bean bag 😄

[balmy patio]

yeah theres no hard lock npc on come back again so suspects sometimes can just shrug off multiple beanbags and 2 flashes, the third flash will always surrender them

i would recommend bringing a taser regardless of whatever build you are running, one taser slot gives you 6 shots

[frank cairn]

That guy was stuck.
I used all my flash grenades and my team shot him 5 minutes long with bean bags

[balmy patio]

so its a huge invest and return value

[frank cairn]

yeah, will do that now

[balmy patio]

hmm havent seen something like that in that map but yeah that sucks, regardless you can just use one slot for the taser

thats like the best chance at dealing with those glitches

[frank cairn]

Yarp

[dire raft]

I swear how in God’s green earth is Greased Palms on Hard possible

It’s so dumb

[frank cairn]

Whats the exact mechanic on firing officers?
Its often greyed out/cant fire them and I didnt figure out the mechanic behind it

[sturdy pumice]

Rocket launcher

[dire raft]

AC-130 for Greased Palms

Fuck the civilians everyone’s got a target on their back in Greased Palms

[sturdy pumice]

I 100% agree, just don't put it on file.

[molten flame]

so on ANA why isn’t there like 3 departments ready to kick the doors of city hall in

Cause realistically it’d be LSPD, LSPD SWAT, LSSD (surviving deputies + backup), LSSD SEB (because of the deputies down) and possibly CHP

[fallen osprey]

see briefing. too few people, and everyone's being blocked. NG are stuck in protests in the north, sheriff's office is dead or stuck dealing with protesters, LSPD is being strained to hell and back with the protests, governer, and FISA units are still hours away in helicopters or planes being flown in.

[molten flame]

Yeah I feel like the CNG would just do a little trolling like they did in the ‘05 riots or whenever this universe’s LA riots happened

plus assuming there are independent cities surrounding LS like IRL, such as Beverly Hills, Santa Monica, Compton, etc. there would be mutual aid

[sturdy pumice]

You think Nat guard would be called in already.

[dire raft]

If ANA happened irl there would be hundreds of national guards

[fallen osprey]

they ARE called in they're still enroute

[molten flame]

Not including specialized LEAs like Port of Los Sueños Police & Los Sueños International Airport Police

[fallen osprey]

also you are completely ignoring everything in my message

[molten flame]

yet Highway Patrol is completely MIA

[sturdy pumice]

They should've been called in months ago.

[molten flame]

Not sure why the governor didn’t have CHP or CBI guarding him

[molten flame]

Realistically the LS Mayor would’ve called a state of emergency and hundreds of CHP and CNG would be in LS

but apparently the corruption in Ready or Not extends to every body of authority in the US to the point I genuinely wouldn’t be surprised if the Los Sueños Unified School Board was corrupt too

LITERALLY

OSHA be funding Voll’s operation instead of protecting worker’s rights

[sturdy pumice]

I wonder what else is happening in the U.S, if California is like this, just imagine what's happening everywhere else.

[molten flame]

probably the same shit verbatim according to the devs

[opaque zealot]

nationwide iirc

los suenos just bares a bigger burden through pre-existing corruption

[molten flame]

honestly that’s just a cheap move

[opaque zealot]

the US in ready or nots continuity has had more presidents indicating a ton either left office or died while serving, so the nation definitely is NOT stable

oh wait you’re talking abt the events of boiling point

i thought you meant just condition wise with crime and unemployment

[burnt gazelle]

Wasn’t it mentioned somewhere in the game that they would only start to spread if the New America was successful for the MLO?

[solemn patio]

uhurhggghh i hate the stupid suspect ai at range

Theyre too damn accurate out far

[solemn patio]

Or more got impeached.

[opaque zealot]

i think its kinda their trial

[sleek rune]

do the devs have in mind to add face masks to singleplayer?

[molten flame]

i wont lie

BORTAC logic makes no sense on Rust Belt

Like yeah lets send in a lone SWAT team from a city hundreds of miles from the border with zero support to a poorly mapped stash house with a tunnel to Mexico and not send in BORTAC & ICE agents, whose sole objective is to deal with shit like this

[nimble ravine]

honestly it’s fucked

[dire raft]

Anyone wanna do 1-2 missions on hard?

[marble flume]

shit, I had my SWAT guys path to me on Hide and Seek when I didn't want them to, and to make things even more fun, one of them somehow got stuck in the middle of the wide-open area and refused to move regardless of what I told him

[marble flume]

I somehow managed to do Greased Palms on Hard with an S rank in Commander mode recently

[balmy patio]

Oh thats smth else, i havent played singleplayer for a while after the release of boiling point in order to get those achievements and endings so

But yea you cant really do these tricks to the swat AI

It has been reported to they are getting stuck alot more often now

[marble flume]

Am I really being roasted by a civilian because I shot a fucking terrorist?

"do you get off on shooting people"

my brother in christ, he's a terrorist shooting up the nightclub, the fuck is your issue

AND HE'S A SECURITY GUARD WEARING A FUCKING BOMB VEST

But sure, I'm the fuckin issue cause I'm full-auto'ing a G36 at these dipshits

[dire raft]

[marble flume]

I've found a pretty fun difficulty increase.

Instead of playing maps on Hard (ew), just play Standard with no body armor

[heady garnet]

any workaround for the greasy palms guy (the FISA agent) just not surrendering? Shooting him in the arm with lethal ammo didn't seem to help

[balmy patio]

Is he at the 2nd floor near the stairs

[heady garnet]

ye

[balmy patio]

Yeah reset the level thats a hardlock glitch

Or shoot him in the toes to get an incap

It will still count towards arrest so your score will be fine unless u tryna S rank

[heady garnet]

ye, we trying to S-Rank

[balmy patio]

Well shit that really sucks but yeah you have to reset then

Hes the only suspect in the game that does that and the taser doesnt unglitch him

[heady garnet]

well, at least the floor knives are fixed I guess

[balmy patio]

Strat to S rank the map is to rush the 2nd floor through the stairs next to the entrance

Just to see if hes stuck there or not so you dont need to reset the level so late

After clearing the entrance and 2nd floor and hes not there then you can clear the back parking lot and the other post office to the right of spawn before engaging the center

[marble flume]

this is the strategy in general, take a riot shield (although you could be fine without it) and rush second floor off rip, makes clearing out that section way easier

[balmy patio]

Yeah that works too

Although since its greased palms the long sightlines of the map can force you to drop the beanbag and invest k flash nade ammo to close gaps

If its standard to you can go pepperball AR and taser to

Hard mode fuck no go. M32A1

[marble flume]

I did it with the beanbag lol. Stingers also help with the "hey shitass" strategy

[balmy patio]

Yea you can still do it fine with it but you have to engage the parking lot differently

Aiming at head level for the drop to hit chest

[marble flume]

yeah, gotta aim high to hit at all outside

[rustic patrol]

does anyone know who i can go to about getting unbanned from the mod discord, i have no clue why or who to go to

[pulsar lake]

Deadass would rather have 4 crayon-munching kindergardners than AI for ANA

[marble flume]

lmao

[tacit gull]

the mod team on here isnt directly connected to rom, so you need to talk to someone on their team

[deep venture]

how does one mod on ps5?

[pulsar lake]

If I fire an officer with a shit personal perk, do I get the option to replace that slot after I complete the next mission?

[marble flume]

If you fire someone you can immediately hire a new person

There's actually a valid strategy in picking a map like Lethal Obsession and deliberately killing all four of your officers on a door trap to filter out shit perks lol

[pulsar lake]

Why is this valid if you can immediately pick your desired perks by firing?

Or am I missing smth? I legit never play commander

[marble flume]

Welp, sadly you can only fire one person at a time, and you also have to actually complete a mission before you can fire another person

If you've got a large roster of garbage-tier perks its genuinely much faster to just wipe them all on an explosive door trap rofl

[pulsar lake]

I see. Thanks

[feral mango]

anybody wanna do some hard runs? i dont generally talk a lot as i have a fan on and movie playing in the background and dont wanna bother anyone

im on xbox

[pulsar lake]

Bro how did the AI killing one civilian put them ALL in Crisis?

[feral mango]

really annoying when the match host dies and immediately restarts or quits out

[austere rain]

the emotional state thing is such a dumb mechanic, like why go through rigorous SWAT training if you're not mentally ready to handle the aspects of the job

like these guys will see a little drop of blood and go into a mental meltdown over it

[balmy patio]

i always play hard mode so if u are hosting i could pull up but i dont vc

[rough needle]

swat officers quit when they see their commander shoot a civilian 30 times after cuffing him??

[rich cobalt]

you, or maybe 1 or 2 polite CAG operator(s) or "former" SWAT officer(s) that you know of might be emotionally numb.
but everyone is human and has their breaking point. some who are numb have probably reached theirs already, or maybe they're not even human at all.
being a soldier or an officer doesn't instantly make you immune to these feelings.

and while training is meant to break you to your limits, you can never be truly prepared for the real thing.

[austere rain]

seeing countless dead civies lining the floors is nothing to them, but a couple dead terrorist and then they're breaking down, that just makes no sense to me

[rich cobalt]

some missions affect them heavily, though this was considered for some of the newer missions.
officers will always be distressed after finishing elephant, for example.

and the premise of the game is not to kill (while realistically in situations like these, it's almost necessary to take a life to stop others from being taken). you are meant to bring order to chaos.

[tacit gull]

It is as consistent as the rest of the game's systems are, this is the wrong game to be complaining about this in tbh

The stress system makes sense conceptually its just that it's implemented in a really shit way that is kind of disrespectful to a really deep REALLY impactful issue in real life

[vernal talon]

They start crying when they have to shoot a guy who killed 10000 peoples🤣🤣

But when they see all the innocent bodies there fine

[rich cobalt]

they cried regardless after seeing dead students.

[tacit gull]

Except elephant for example does increase their stress

Forcefully

which is done by nothing else in the game

[vernal talon]

Yeah but almost every mission has dead innocents

[rich cobalt]

that's another part that bugs me a bit

[tacit gull]

Another shitsmear on top of the system

Just to make sure its as esoteric as possible to the player

Despite being laughably simple

[feral mango]

does changing ammo type actually matter? ive never messed with it cuz i figure i5 doesnt make that big of a diffetence?

and do the hollow points leave bigger wounds? that would be cool

[tacit gull]

No

At most it wont let you penetrate higher tier armor which is not showcased on suspects anyway

Otherwise shots to kill are the same on the torso, you wont be aiming for limbs which is what jhp boosts

If you're using 7.62 or .50ae its probably best you run jhp

otherwise dont bother

[formal blade]

What’s the benefit of using JHP vs AP?

[tacit gull]

jhp doesnt penetrate and deals more damage to limbs

also more likely to cause bleeding from limbs, that's it

some guns also have broken stats so jhp might just penetrate more

[feral mango]

i use 7.62

and .45

[daring quarry]

i just got headshot through a window above a door on ANA

[livid aspen]

ana has aged me 30 years

[strange depot]

I got programmed psychosis on console. I feel special 😈

[rustic patrol]

how? i have no where to go to or who to ask

[tacit gull]

I dunno, best you can do is ask someone you know on there

[balmy yacht]

A credible leaker on X has stated that the Final DLC will be released this year and the story will end with Judge saying that maybe the real Ready or Not was the friends they made along the way.

(Source: It was revealed to me in a dream)