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[rocky raptor]

Me and my buddies are from Colombia so

[smoky moss]

I’m so slow, thank you that makes sense

[urban mural]

Has anyone tips on how to do the last part of the A new America? I mean the last floor.

[olive tendon]

For me, when I was playing the map with some other people, I sacrificed myself and sped through trying to find the bomb guy as quickly as possible so he surrenders...but this isn't the best solution if you want a good score 😛

[unkempt granite]

lost my iron man run on greased palms

i am NOT going to be trying to let these mfs live EVER again

[wide verge]

clear everything except the court room BEFORE activating the jammer. then stack on the main court room door and throw 2-3 flashes in. do not shoot the guy with the flower mask. arrest him. then stand in front of him to get the prompt to get multi tool out. then you can disarm the bomb on him

[unkempt granite]

i wish i could send that one image of the hulk is so funny 💔

[knotty storm]

js dont go broke like joc

[static pollen]

How can I do Hunger Strike on non-lethal? I've noticed the suspects take civs hostage on the second floor and they kill them before I can act

[potent valley]

CS gas and prayer? The Boiling Point update kind of broke it

[static pollen]

Yeah they just kill the hostages before I can even get to them. The first floor is secured by spamming 9-bangs but I can hear them killing someone on the second floor just as I get done with the kitchen area

[static pollen]

Maybe

[lilac crow]

does anyone else just refuse to use sights under 20 yards and just goes for a laser with the gun canted to the side?

[analog cove]

I've definitely noticed myself using canted a lot more recently, pretty much use it exclusively on no good deed and any time I'm using night vision, something about it feels nice and accurate

[amber hearth]

i kinda like how the story is going

i hope in next DLC we fight against reanimated lee harvey oswald

[coral tapir]

I've been using canted aiming so much it might as well be my new default aiming style.

[limpid yew]

This was one of the last 2 missions I had to s rank, my strategy was spawn at the default entrance with the flash launcher and just full on blitzed through the kitchen and back room straight upstairs and flash it out. Got it done in like 5 minutes.

Had my team arrest any suspect we came across and left civs alone for later. (No mods)

[last dawn]

is there no option to change viewmodel fov

[hollow finch]

there is

[last dawn]

wait where

[hollow finch]

right next to world fov

you can select between default, follow world or custom

[last dawn]

i ment like viewmodel arm length fov

[hollow finch]

yes

its right next to the setting for world fov

[last dawn]

ok thank you beanshirt

[crude herald]

How are you guys pushing the 4th floor staircase on a new america? trying to do programmed psychosis but cannot get past this part due to the super open hall.

[fringe fjord]

just taking it painfully slow and clear every angle as slow as possible

[crude herald]

Hardest part is the metal detector in the middle, so its really difficult to pie the sides while you get shot through the pixels on the detector.

I can get to the staircase pretty much nohit but its hard to practice the top floor when each run takes like 30min just to get there lol 😄

[rocky plover]

Free lean left/right and also can try free lean upwards beside the metal detector (before it)

By yeah agree that 22nd floor is just super annoying so rng dependant

[crude herald]

I actually found good success with the b13 shotgun. Runs started going alot better since then.

[rocky plover]

With all the practice I had on that map I can manage to never get shot lol but then get 1 tapped on the 22nd floor 🤣

[crude herald]

real xD

[rocky plover]

Yea I tried rifles, then tried m1014 and runs were going better and finally got the ach

[crude herald]

Yeah i found the only way to consistently oneshot is to go for headshots and obv headshots are easier with buckshot spread

[rocky plover]

Now just need to S rank it on hard and I should rest 😂

[crude herald]

im content with just getting the S rank achievement, so on standard

[rocky plover]

Yea or just limbs tbh you only need half the pellets from 1 shot to hit the limbs and they're dead in 1 shot

I did that already but I wanna get it on hard now as well, since it's the only 1 left that I need

[crude herald]

not sure if you can do that on range

headshot kills on any range

[rocky plover]

Yea you can if not 1 shot they will stagger and pretty easy to shoot again for a follow up

Easier than rifles anyways

More ammo economic tbh as well

And with free lean it's very good, when you see their limbs without them seeing you you can kill them with 1 shot with shotguns unlike rifles

[coarse osprey]

https://www.reddit.com/r/ReadyOrNotGame/comments/1s9gorn/greased_palms_is_now_the_most_loved_and_played/

[analog cove]

Because people using it as warmup for a new america

[wraith basin]

Always been*

[coarse osprey]

[hardy marlin]

Does the ballistic mandible really do anything?

[rocky plover]

Increases helmet protection and gives 33% ricochet chance

[crude herald]

How do you open doors silently? is it to peek the door and then open or peek and walk into door?

[crystal tundra]

peeking and opening it by walking into it seems the quietest

[hardy marlin]

It just looks so ugly, would it be terrible if i took it off

[rocky plover]

^

No still better than completely without helmet at least

[bitter mason]

Shame they didn't add a riot visor as a ballistic mask skin in the new dlc

No reason for them not to with the theme

[molten wasp]

PISS OFF, THAT LEVEL IS RAGE INDUCING

SWEAR TO GOD IF ANY OF YOU SAY RELAPSE IS AWESOME, I'M GONNA LOSE MY RAG

[coarse osprey]

[onyx swift]

Just use the new Nerve Gas M32A1 Launcher, added in the newest update

Knocks Suspects out like a light in seconds, perfect for the new Very Hard difficulty too

[molten wasp]

Already S ranked every single mission and DLC on hard

[onyx swift]

But you haven’t tried Very Hard yet

[molten wasp]

Unless It's Ai on crack mod

But nah I've done It on console

[onyx swift]

Nope, base game addition this time around

Completely new difficulty

[hardy marlin]

NOOO WHAT COFFEE MACHIN JAMMED

[deft sedge]

is bc its impossible on hard mode lol

[hardy marlin]

god dammit i wanted macchiato and it jammed

[onyx swift]

Caffeinated or Not

[hardy marlin]

caffeinated have you seen outside dude i havent slept in 3 moons

[onyx swift]

Nah sounds of rioting outside

[silk spear]

Relapse is awesome.

[onyx swift]

Relapse is completely fun and has no bad qualities

[onyx swift]

easiest Mission in the game, yup

[meager imp]

If you wear a shield on your back to block bullets, I will make a conscious effort to get you killed

[hardy marlin]

whats the best battle rifle?

[subtle gyro]

6.5

[hardy marlin]

i shoot them below their waistline with this and stil, 2 shots. always

[vestal mauve]

6.7 creedmore

[hardy marlin]

die

[vestal mauve]

also why are the helmet icons next to our names the SWAT icon from Killing Floor 2

https://killingfloor.fandom.com/wiki/SWAT same icon lol

[hardy marlin]

omg its the hitreg, it just shits itself with 6.5

[coral tapir]

Oh hey finally another one that acknowledges this!

[vestal mauve]

Ive played the SWAT class too much to not notice this

[coral tapir]

[hexed escarp]

the relapse hate needs to END ngl

relapse is unironically not that bad of a map i think its fine

[bitter mason]

I also noticed this but I never said nothing about it

[sand abyss]

how do I make sure that they minimize the amount of times the suspects can rush me. I got my ass beat by the last guy because he just sprayed me while my ai teammates were just unwilling to do anything

[fiery vortex]

Not the fact it's bad it's just stressful

[hexed escarp]

its not even stressful ngl

relapse really doesnt put much pressure on you except for the top floor

[somber wolf]

Shout and shoot

[hexed escarp]

ballistic shield is RIGHT THERE

[sand abyss]

so give someone else the mirror gun then, okay thx

[hexed escarp]

pretty much yea

i usually have 1 guy carry a battering ram and other mirror gun for each color team

or 1 guy carry shield and other mirror

then i always take shield myself since AI only use it when they're clearing

[lost inlet]

GA51.

[twin bramble]

Whoever made programmed psychosis 10G meanwhile eye of providence is 50G needs their achievement value assignments privileges revoked

[hexed escarp]

regular g3 is better ngl it has more aura

[lost inlet]

agree.

i should've said G3 instead, my bad.

[hardy marlin]

honestly, feels good. very little recoil, good irons

[hexed escarp]

the G3 has like the worst irons wym

or i remember it having bad irons idk thats like the one bad part of it

[hardy marlin]

i like em

[somber wolf]

-# could just use a scar with a holo

[hardy marlin]

speak up

[somber wolf]

only if you get in

[hexed escarp]

if you turn off console joining it doesnt make you go through epic i think no?

unless ur on console then rip lol idk

[hexed escarp]

yea its so over for u

[hardy marlin]

im i crazy that when i want a battle rifle i want it to one shot unarmored guys

cause no battle rifle really does it

[surreal pelican]

Am I allowed to kill the idiots for the my eyes ach?

[hardy marlin]

i mean, 2 taps arent bad but it feels kinda weak

[somber wolf]

scar

[hardy marlin]

yep that works wonders

[knotty storm]

only wish for mag 7 to be in game. love that small workhorse in cs

[hardy marlin]

why does the scar do more damage than the g3 its the same round?

[craggy fable]

are servers working?

[somber wolf]

rule of cool

[hardy marlin]

fair enough

[somber wolf]

have never had trouble on the last floor of ANA since committing to the golden scar

[floral peak]

April fools!!!1!1!1!11

[hardy marlin]

I would test it there but i dont have dlc

[knotty storm]

bcuz g3 was made by norinco trust

[surreal pelican]

For My Eyes ach; do it in Multiplayer

I managed to pop it in first try mp (wasted 2 fucking hours in qp attempting this bullshit)

[kindred flame]

Underreacting

[hardy marlin]

god dammit with the scar i just made my loadout belgian again

[exotic slate]

Whats your favorite gun?

[hardy marlin]

like, in game or real life?

[exotic slate]

either or

[hardy marlin]

five seven never leaves my hip, josselyn chain revolver is insane and i love it so much

[coarse osprey]

https://www.reddit.com/r/ReadyOrNotGame/comments/1s9gorn/greased_palms_is_now_the_most_loved_and_played/

[surreal pelican]

A New America took over the mantle of Greased Palms

[arctic ivy]

greased palms way over hated

[surreal pelican]

I liked Greased Palms

[arctic ivy]

thats whatim saying

[surreal pelican]

But A New America is nightmare inducing fuel

[fiery vortex]

Issue is it covers alot of the screen, and the one way you can see through can be damaged that it's unusable

[lost inlet]

luckily you can always slap a sight on it.

[floral peak]

finally, ppl realised how good it is

[hexed escarp]

use alt lean and wiggle around a lot ez then its harder for them to break the window

[dire talon]

How do I fix bugged suspects on a map? I've tried to s rank greased palms twice now and both times jack adams was just standing still, facing the same way, and not surrendering

Nothing worked, he ate beanbags, was unbothered by pepperballs, all while screaming at me

[floral peak]

I encountered that bug only once in my whole playtime, on relapse

you cant do anything with it as i remember

i had to restart the mission

[hardy marlin]

whats the better muzzle break? sfmb or asr

[dire talon]

I've already done that, this is my second try. Still happened

[floral peak]

Either very unluck or idk

[dire talon]

Yeah

Other than that the rest of the map is honestly quite easy

[quartz echo]

anyone know how to fix stuck authentification for epic service?
I have fresh installed files & clear cache, issue still appears

[glass heart]

sfmb, it gives 10% better recoil reduction for no downside

[slim kite]

Trying to get S trier on Greased Palms even on Standart is...

[rigid ridge]

Do you need to be in a Commander lobby to get The Heat is On achievement? Do I need to not run a helmet? I've beaten it in a multiplayer lobby solo 3 times now, no armor (including a stab vest), no grenades, no shield (mirror gun only), and it will not activate. Super painful as its not easy to do

[regal tundra]

cant use helmet

commander mode, quick play, or multiplayer are all fine

Your bots or teammates are allowed to use anything they want and you'll still get the achievement

[rigid ridge]

Thank you! I was very frustrated not understanding what I was doing wrong. I prefer no bots as well tbh even though they definitely help here.

[regal tundra]

NP, yeah doing it solo is kind of insane lmao but hey, whatever works

[rigid ridge]

Still easier than Programmed Psychosis so its just more practice for that

Brutal achievement Void

[surreal pelican]

SFMB

SFMB -40% vertical recoil, ASR -30% vertical recoil

[hardy marlin]

so really no point in asr

[surreal pelican]

Yeh

I guess you can count the "reduces muzzle flash" in for the SFMB too lol

[last dawn]

can we nerf the ping pong atari cpu or atleast fix the cheese bounces

[uncut cliff]

How do you know the numbers

[surreal pelican]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1d89lpFDA9lo_v13iBlnhtuA6DvuUnKfPaeo0d4RBGJ4/edit?usp=drivesdk

[vestal trout]

Why tf do my suspects not stand up when I shoot the CS gas can? I did everything like in the new guide video for my eyes it burns but they keep not standing up

[gusty elbow]

hey guys

[molten trail]

bye tigerztacos

[gusty elbow]

I have a question about Boiling Point. Am I hallucinating when I think it looks like the protesters get pushed back as I complete the missions

aw :(

[molten trail]

idk pookie

[gusty elbow]

thx

[hardy marlin]

ok after more testing nah ga51 the goat battle rifle

[fervent orbit]

For people who got programmed psychosis without a shotgun, what primary did you use?

[gusty elbow]

where does rtwc 6.7 jorkmore stand on ranking of battle rifle

[rocky plover]

I suggest a 5.56 rifle with AP then

[glass heart]

the caliber is worse than 7.62 nato but the rtwc is fun and has very little recoil

use it if you like it and dont mind the barrel length

[rocky plover]

Since all of the rifles will be 2 shots on hard with AP on L4 armor

[gusty elbow]

that does sound good since .300 is eh cuz of recoil but the 556 has better recoil and whatnot

[rocky plover]

But the shotgun gave me better results

[gusty elbow]

it’s fun with a muzzle brake

[rocky plover]

Yeah that's why I suggested the 5.56 due to low recoil and since they all need 2 shots might as well take the easiest to control

[gusty elbow]

It’s also nice since it’s the most AR-like of the battle rifles so you get a lot of customization

I like my LMG it’s nice especially with the 25 slots mod

[fervent orbit]

Would the g36c be the best choice then?

[cold vortex]

i have a question

why is the deserty type camo for the cerro torre l5 pants not showing up, but for the shirt it is

the desert camo keeps showing up as the navy camo

[hardy marlin]

in the big docs spreadsheet i keep seeing "meta against L3A, what does L3A mean

[rocky plover]

g36C, f90, MCX, sr16 all good with the g36C having the least recoil

[rocky plover]

L3 armor

[hardy marlin]

ah

is the mkv good?

[hexed escarp]

the mkv is the best pistol in the game bro

can confirm as a DEDICATED mkv pistol user

[rocky plover]

Yea its very good but I don't use it much tbh, only when I run shield tbh

[gusty elbow]

So as I was saying, I think I am correct in my theory. I remember at the start of the DLC the outside of the station was like a stage with a big mess and stuff knocked over I think, but now it’s been pushed back and there are officers at barricades

[hardy marlin]

man i want the dlc's but no money :(

is the revolver servicable

probably no

[somber wolf]

the two glocks are

[hardy marlin]

if i want high mag size its the five seven all day

[rocky plover]

Or the 2 new 9mm pistols they got more ammo capacity then the 5-7 but yeah not as strong as the 5-7 for armor pen

[spare sinew]

Everyone used a shotgun

[rocky plover]

Not everyone but a lot yeah

Since shotguns are a no brainer tbh

[hardy marlin]

holy fuck the 2011 has no drag whatsoever

[craggy fable]

arn-18

[fervent orbit]

Absolutely no idea who you are, but zaeld on youtube got it with a g36c

[stone bay]

On the mission a new america, when you enter the first room (the security room) there’s a keycard on a table and a thing you can do with the system on the desk, what are they both for?

[dark meadow]

Keycard is for the electronic doors around the map. The system on the desk is so you can look at the building cameras with T. It shuts off when you turn off the security systems tho

[hardy marlin]

ok 2011 may be my new pistol of choice

even against level 3 i can really easily headshot in desperate situations

[stone bay]

but I keep finding 2 different key cards, I knew one of them was for the doors but i’m not sure what the other ones for, is it the same keycard then?

[pearl egret]

is it just me or does looking down magnified scopes have a kinda grainy motion blur effect?

[inner jewel]

Yall ever js shoot a civilian in the head 3 times point blank and they tank it

[marsh sedge]

they are all over the map, from my experience you only need the one

[rocky plover]

They are all the same thing, there's just multiple scattered around, only 1 is needed, just like in mindjot data centre

And if you're gonna turn off the power you don't even need the keycard either

[hardy marlin]

god i wish the jnto trickster came in black

which base game or lss map should i john wick

please no greased palms

[floral peak]

Valley of the dolls

It fits

[hardy marlin]

aight bet

john wicking it does mean solo clear pistol only

holy shit i disarmed a guy by shooting the gun out of his hand that was sick

[tired jungle]

Is that even a thing

[hardy marlin]

idk man i shot his gun and he dropped it

so ima say i cowboy disarmed him

[tacit gull]

bro thinks he in swat 4 😭

[north oar]

does officers get stressed from always being used?

[hardy marlin]

ok no need to be disrespectful

[regal tundra]

Not specifically. they just gain stress when people die or are incapped, and lose stress when people are arrested

Elephant is the only mission that has like passive stress gain

[marsh sedge]

and therapy, therapy always helps

[tacit gull]

you're right i shouldn't bring that up 😔

[regal tundra]

Ya therapy also helps, as well as the fact that firing increases stress

firing officers that is

[tired jungle]

Firing them is sorta inevitable

[north oar]

ah alr cause i js got a S on elephant and its first time in this playthrough my officers has gotten stressed so i was confused

[regal tundra]

Yeah that makes sense. Elephant i think is scripted for them to gain a pretty large amount of stress regardless of how well it goes

[marsh sedge]

be careful with that, they will quit and preform worse as theyre stress gets worse

[north oar]

sent them to therapy lol

they aint good for nothing but meat shields anyways

[marsh sedge]

you are right about that lol

[north oar]

the amount of times my officers has just been shot and just stood still and decided to not move

[marsh sedge]

and honestly, i can respect it, thats a power move

[glass heart]

you respect it until they get killed like idiots by one guy

ive genuinely had my team breach with c2 and flashes and all get gunned down by one mexican with an ak (in an enclosed space, they had the ability to fire back but didnt)

[thorn plank]

4 minutes till I can finally play again 😄

[tacit gull]

good thing the c2 doesnt do anything

[vestal trout]

Finally after several days I get my eyes it burns

Genuinely harder than programmed psychosis by a mile

[covert aurora]

Gratr

[tacit gull]

guh

gratr

i see someone didnt get the memo this year 😔

[fair dune]

What is a ron

[glass heart]

i know but it sounds cool :3

[stone bay]

Oh okay i thought the power only worked for the cameras (which doesn’t do a lot but either way still handy) good to know i guess 👍

[stone bay]

Ready or Not?

[atomic tangle]

does anyone know why Twisted Nerve is glitched? The radio guy said it was all finished, yet the tablet thing said 2 objectives werent done, but nothing was left

i cant advance and its stuck in a loop of saying "New level available!"

[urban mural]

Nah wait I can just blow up the building with the jammer.

Btw the hardest part is going upstairs and clearing that area, so much surrounded by doors and people.

[gusty marten]

I js know lawmaker is gonna be annoying asf

[urban mural]

Why do the MLO guys threat the breaching like a religion in a new america?

[urban mural]

Not really, is a CQB map with closed doors. Is not hard to beat that map.

[analog cove]

why dont you?

[gusty marten]

Its a big ah mansion it looks pretty annoying

[urban mural]

You will always clear withing the building tho. Just use wedges to prevent flakings.

[gusty marten]

Nice omega-1 pfp

Laws left hand

[urban mural]

My favorite MTF unit.

[gusty marten]

I like plague tamers

[lost swallow]

Why do the two new guns have to be racked before firing for the first time you unholster it? The 5.7 doesnt rack at least when i first pull it out

[glass heart]

they just thought it would be cool

thats all there is to the animation

in reality you would always go to a scene with all your weapons ready to go

[lost swallow]

Thats what i thought

It lowk fucks me over sometimes

[glass heart]

even when you pull them out to get the press check done, the player carries it in condition 1

meaning its speed as a secondary is compromised compared to any other option

[keen chasm]

why ppl like the quad nvg goggles so much, its so ugly. like some Australian spider

[exotic linden]

cag

[glass heart]

its a lot easier to use than duals in cqb

[keen chasm]

what a cag

[glass heart]

and since this game is basically all cqb, its natural that they prefer it

[glass heart]

its the combat applications group aka delta, the best counter-terrorism unit of the us military

[exotic linden]

nooo

[glass heart]

it has come to mean something cool or tactical in the guns and gear community

[exotic linden]

why did you tell him....... yiu;re not sypposed to talk about cag

[gritty star]

Because you can see much better when using them as opposed to standard NVG

[glass heart]

also white phos is obviously better than green too

all green has going for it is the aesthetic

[keen chasm]

well I'm talking people playing ron, including the mod users and all

[glass heart]

yeah those people use the term as i described

[keen chasm]

honestly barely makes a difference between quad and dual in gameplay

[glass heart]

it does

[keen chasm]

hardly

[glass heart]

you get better situational awareness

its quite a lot more

you get about 45 degrees with duals and 95 with quads

[keen chasm]

nah not so much, once u played enough it doesn't really mattet

[tacit gull]

the quad nods are ugly as fuck if you dont wear them

[keen chasm]

yeah they are

[tacit gull]

and you are most likely not going to in this game

[glass heart]

true but theyre neat

i just wish you could wear tan nods in vanilla

[tacit gull]

you can

[gritty star]

Supporter edition

[tacit gull]

80 dollar please for the original gpnvgs

[gritty star]

I want my FISA HRT... NOW

[north oar]

how do you get an S on rust belt i did it perfectly with no negative points and the game automaticly ended

[glass heart]

it automatically ends when you collect everything, but to get s rank you need to get everything, report everyone, and have NOBODY be dead or incapacitated

meaning that yes, it will end automatically when you did it

but you need to play with less lethal munitions

[north oar]

i got no lethal ammo

all fgame was perfect howebver the last suspect gun fell out of map does that impact it?

[glass heart]

it should be automatically secured so it doesnt fuck with your s rank

they implemented that for guns glitching out of bounds

[north oar]

idk then man

all civilians was alive and well

i got nothing thats able to kill

[gritty star]

What were you using? And your team? Beanbags?

[glass heart]

beanbags dont kill if swat ai is using them

only players can kill with them

[gritty star]

They fixed that?

[glass heart]

for a while now

[gritty star]

Huh. I guess I don't do non lethal enough anymore

[north oar]

pepper rifle for all teammates

including me

side arms is non lethal to

[gritty star]

The only thing I can think of is a suspect accidentally injured a civilian or another suspect by shooting through them

[north oar]

yea that is prob only logical explanation

[craggy fable]

Player beanbag AI pepperballs is a decent combo

I like Player flash launcher/beanbag and AI beanbag

Seems to be the most consistent to my experience. I rarely use the pepper ball rifle

[glad pendant]

why on earth do i have to prep my pistol everytime i start a game

[mystic palm]

I tried getting the broken cuff in multiplayer but when i used the detonator and finished the missions it didnt give the broken cuff

[last dawn]

did you get put in jail after the mission

[mystic palm]

Nope

[last dawn]

yea you gotta get the jail ending

[mystic palm]

Do i need to do it in single player?

[last dawn]

i think so

[sly nest]

I just lost an ironman run to the AI randomly deciding to run out and getting domed on Lethal Obsession
Bro just went up the stairs by himself

[wintry barn]

Make the enemy AI better i cant pass a hard level in where suspects prefire through walls

Im making that achievement programmed psychosis in A new america in hard mode by going to kill full shotgun but even that is imposible i get one shotted allways

[twilit torrent]

havent played in a while, is the P90 still crazy overpowered?

[tribal swift]

How does the ammo for the beanbag shotgun work? Is it by mags or by individual shells.

[craggy fable]

whoever said that the AI teammates cant kill suspects with the beanbag shotgun lied

they still havent fixed it 💀

[proven blade]

does having mods enabled actually disable achievements

[chilly thorn]

no

[proven blade]

w

[chilly thorn]

Im pretty sure that if your using a mod that adds new gamemodes if your playing on a that modded gamemode you probably cant get some gamemode tied achievements

like beating all maps on hard for exmp

[chilly thorn]

Yeahhh

[chilly thorn]

Each slot is one full tube

[cosmic oar]

#🎨ron-screenshots-and-art message

First time posting art here

[molten wasp]

Playing the max Payne 3 ost hits different when you play RoN

[frail pier]

I fucks with it

Lowkey might steal it if it's alright with you

[cosmic oar]

I wont mind!

[tribal swift]

OH LOL, I WAS TAKING 10 TUBES

[peak kayak]

I just finished my last a rank and got the dress to impress achievement and medal of valor let's goooo

[covert aurora]

https://tenor.com/view/nemesis-stars-resident-evil3-biohazard-umbrella-gif-25024644

[urban salmon]

hey new player how do yall do ides of march ive tried it nearing a dozen times with one completion all my officers dead, 2 broken legs, and a broken arm

[craggy fable]

Big W

[craggy fable]

Elevator spawn, clear the hallways first, wedge the doors to the middle room until all other rooms are cleared (or clear the hallways and middle room first, then the side rooms)

Check for traps and use your Flashbangs when you hear suspects in a room

[iron willow]

Don't rely on SWAT AI, clear it on your own, abuse alt lean (free lean)

[urban salmon]

i thought i was missing the point of the game when i just ignored them the first few missions

[iron willow]

blame VOID

the SWAT AI is really bad at doing... anything.

[urban salmon]

sidenote shotguns are borderline non lethal in this game

[iron willow]

use slugs

[urban salmon]

alr ill try it

[craggy fable]

Supernova and m4 are good shotguns

The rest are kinda dookie

[iron willow]

The ONLY time I use SWAT AI is courtroom on A New America, and that's because it's uniornically impossible to clear it on your own

[urban salmon]

i used buckshot on the supernova and i shot them like 5 times and did nothing

[iron willow]

Yeah, they have armour. Buckshot does nothing to armour

[craggy fable]

What difficulty are you on? It works fine for me on all missions

[urban salmon]

standard

[craggy fable]

Da freak 💔

It works fine for me even with armor

[visual mortar]

Real

[urban salmon]

shotguns still seem suck it takes 4-5 shots to kill to the chest

[visual mortar]

I literally tell them to Hold until I get to an annoying part
its just inconvnient when they die

[iron willow]

I am still depressed over losing my S rank to my SWAT AI dying on courtroom of ANA

[urban salmon]

so far the only good guns ive used was the lvar and the p90

[visual mortar]

woah woah woah

[iron willow]

Even in the GOATED game SWAT4 (I played it for 1 hour) I don't really use SWAT AI because you don't need to, but it's fun

[urban salmon]

everything else it feels like im shooting a boss fight

[craggy fable]

Try the arn-180

[iron willow]

I like MK18, also you don't mention the holy beanbag shotgun?

[urban salmon]

isn't that every shotgun?

[iron willow]

Until the flash launcher came out it carried my S rank runs until Boiling Point

[iron willow]

No, there's a special shotgun for it.

[visual mortar]

Go to Non-Lethal

[iron willow]

Would it surprise you the beanag staggers immediately unlike the other shotguns

So if you alt lean... you can stagger them in 1, very rarely 2 shots and they surrender

[urban salmon]

so... its better?

[iron willow]

Yes.

and you get S ranks, which is based behavior

Become an S-ranker, become based.

[urban salmon]

why is the non lethal shotgun better at stopping the heathens then 12 guage

[visual mortar]

becuase yes

[iron willow]

Wait until you see what the flash launcher does

[urban salmon]

this is the realistic unrealism i get from tarkov

[iron willow]

I gave that shit to myself and my AI companions and every mission is a loud noises nightmare

Ew Tarkov

[urban salmon]

agreed

[iron willow]

I would MAYBE play that game PVE if the devs weren't terrible people

But they are terrible people so I refuse to get it

[urban salmon]

i always though tarky was super cool and i genuinely dreamed of playing it when i was younger

but actually playing it is a nightmare

[iron willow]

My best friend loves it

He bought it before the devs went mask off

poor guy.

[primal yoke]

what’s up with the PVE devs? i was genuinely planning on buying it for the PVE

[urban salmon]

scamming long time players for a cash grab

[iron willow]

The devs in general are terrible people, I'd bring it up but politics are not allowed

[iron willow]

also this

[primal yoke]

ahh noted

[iron willow]

dm'd you

[urban salmon]

melee is not very effective it seems

[iron willow]

It is for civvies

bash them once they insta comply

[urban salmon]

why would i punch them?

ah

[iron willow]

faster than yelling at them

sometimes they take a while to comply so it's easier to bash them

[urban salmon]

i thought it was to non-violently get the enemies to comply

[iron willow]

or just beanbag them if you're funny

[craggy fable]

^

[whole sapphire]

Fix voip

[iron willow]

that's why you use grenades or my lord and saviour Beanbag

[craggy fable]

Bashing a civi doesn’t count as unauthorized too unless they’re already on their knees

[iron willow]

ye

[unkempt granite]

best loadout for iron man 💔?

[craggy fable]

Nonlethal

Beanbag shotgun and flash launcher. Play slow

[iron willow]

I mean technically if you want the dev watch you can play lethally but just S rank the first mission every time your officers get stressed, right?

[craggy fable]

It’s the riskier way of doing it tho, especially with the shitty AI

[urban salmon]

the only thing i heard outside about beanbag is its for s rank runs except valley of dolls

[craggy fable]

You can yeah unless you go full doom slayer and they instantly quit

Learned that the hard way

[iron willow]

same for Valley, it's just edgelords who are being vigilantes in a game where you're explicitly NOT a vigilante

People love to do kill everyone runs on Valley because the suspects are all terrible awful people (I am not risking my account banned for saying why, you can guess why)

I support that but I don't support misinfo like beanbag being bad

[unkempt granite]

beanbag just needs skill

[urban salmon]

the main reason im playing this game is cause i saw a edit of the woman in the crate so i can guess from that

[unkempt granite]

and i'm not skilled 💔

[iron willow]

Oh it's worse.

[visual mortar]

and the people that kill the civis on valley
even though theyre just
the girl's friends

[unkempt granite]

i'll just go nonlethal for everymission

[iron willow]

Yeah lmao

[unkempt granite]

but on greased palms and more i'll use supernova + mkv

[iron willow]

I really hate the people who play RoN as a shoot em up and shoot civvies and whatnot

Maybe it's my fucked up brain that demands high scores but I always just find it really edgy and cringe

Like wow you get to kill civvies, cool. Like just play Rimworld or Stellaris if you wanna do war crimes lmao

[craggy fable]

That’s what I did for my first iron man run

I would go nonlethal on all missions except for the missions I struggled on like neon tomb and hide and seek, I’d go lethal

[urban salmon]

i never understood the war crimes thing in rimworld i get too attached to my poor pawns

[iron willow]

15 year olds being very edgy

Their prefrontal cortex didn't develop things like empathy and sympathy yet so yk

[urban salmon]

oml this is so much easier without ai

solo is so easy

[golden portal]

If I am playing a kill only playthrough, I shoot 1 civvie to disable the rescue all civilians objective. But I leave the rest alone.

[unkempt granite]

i may or may not have almost died on tyca

[iron willow]

My recommendation is to use AI on big rooms you can't clear on your own

[tribal swift]

how many shots until ceramic breaks?

[iron willow]

give everyone and yourself ceramic heavy armour and use your AI on the bad rooms where they have a min chance of dying

you clear the rest, yk?

Your AI is best when watching your back and being the grenade deployers...

[lost inlet]

Ceramic has 3 durability as default, most durability damage can be done is 1 so 3 shots.

[tribal swift]

oh so it sucks

[lost inlet]

Weaker caliber does less than 1 damage so it can tanks 1 or 2 more.

[urban salmon]

is regular or 9 bang better?

[tribal swift]

So steel is the way to go

[lost inlet]

Depends.

[lost inlet]

Yep.

[visual mortar]

Man steel is dogshit

[urban salmon]

large rooms on ides

[lost inlet]

Flashbang has 10m of effect radius but only effect once. 9 bang has 5m of effect radius but goes off 9 times which completely depletes any morale the suspect affected by it has, it also reduces accuracy of the suspect.

[urban salmon]

i feel like regular makes more sense then

[lost inlet]

Don’t use steel front and back nor heavy full steel.

Light front steel is the best setup.

[rustic jackal]

on what mode

[lost inlet]

All.

[lost inlet]

86.5% damage reduction is huge.

[rustic jackal]

this guy might be speaking

[visual mortar]

Just dont get shot

[rustic jackal]

I move so fast I dont need a vest

[urban salmon]

dodge and weave boys

does incapacitation cound for arrest 3 suspects?

[lost inlet]

No.

[iron willow]

That's weird

considering incaping VIPs counts as an arrest?

[lost inlet]

Incapping 3 suspects is too easy so they gotta made you have to arrest 3 alive and well.

[iron willow]

fair

[urban salmon]

i ran out of mags on the last guy when i could have got b rank

i am irrationally angry at this

[iron willow]

single fire is op

2 shots with most rifles incap

[strong fox]

A center mass shot with jhp using anything above a 5.56 will incap in one shot

[gentle pecan]

Did anyone elses save data get wiped today? I tried to hop on today and my save data is just all gone 70+ hours down the drain I cant find it anywhere on my computer

[rigid ridge]

Does anyone have any advice for uncooperative weapon evidence? Flash banging it didn't work (which has actually worked before believe it or not), and free leaning doesn't give me any prompts. Figure my S rank is cooked tho

[rigid ridge]

I've had my save data wiped about 4 times at this point

[gentle pecan]

Damn, im legit not gonna play anymore at this point then cause that's mad discouraging.

[cedar mulch]

RON should take a leaf out of GZY’s book when it comes to armour mechanics, damage mechanics and organ systems. It’s far superior to RON.

[maiden sparrow]

Indeed

[rocky plover]

It disables cams, opens locked metal doors, and disables the fire alarm and sprinklers

[left nexus]

holy shit i finally s ranked a new americao n hard

fuck that mission

[tawdry plover]

cant believe its finally over

[rocky plover]

Nice, it's the last one that I need for all hard S lol

[tawdry plover]

ty, i wish you luck with that horrible mission

[rocky plover]

Thanks gonna need it, 3LT PTSD all over again lol

@chilly spear 1 suspect died/incap that's why

You can see from the individual score on that part

[chilly spear]

Where does it say that? And how could anyone die nobody on my team has anything Lethal

I have nothing but my flash launcher and all my A,I have pepper ball guns

[rocky plover]

21 suspects should he 735, you have 705 which means 20 Alive 1 incap/dead

He might have died from the other suspects crossfire or something

[timid kernel]

does anyone know why the built in mod io is so minimal

[chilly spear]

Three times in a row?

[red drum]

Will ready or not ever add face mask to Commander mode?

balaclava from playing online into the story mode basically

[rocky plover]

Well that's what this screenshot says I can't say for the other 2

[chilly spear]

Well thanks this has been frustrating

the hardest part is keeping my A.I from dying

[rocky plover]

Yea I know I had the same happen but with a civvie instead a suspect stray bullet hit the civvie and Incapped it while shooting at me -_-

[rocky plover]

Yea that's the worst babysitting the AI, sometimes I prefer going in solo

[lost inlet]

GZY?

[rocky plover]

Maybe gzw? Idk

[lost inlet]

What does it stands for anyway?

[rocky plover]

It's in the message he replied to if you go to his reply - gray zone warfare

[molten prairie]

Here’s the trick. The AI are not good at clearing.

The AI suck at clearing actually since they have no sense of threat priority.

Use the AI like a big backpack. Have them pack C2 and wedges and just use them to wedge up rooms after you clear them yourself.

[rocky plover]

That's what I do - (IF I USE THEM), but they still manage to die sometimes 😂

[molten prairie]

How are they dying specifically?

[chilly spear]

What usually happens is when I get to the big room on the third floor I have like 5 suspects on their knees but I can't get my A.I to zip tie them because one will stand up and start shooting canceling the command to handcuff so I need to go around and do it all myself one at a a time and someone always ends up dying because they keep standing up or someone else just shows up randomly

[molten prairie]

Ah, the typical room full of suspects scenario.

[rocky plover]

Either don't properly listen to commands, either they just stand there ignoring you doing nothing, taking to long to do said command... Etc etc..

[molten prairie]

Here’s the trick, order the suspects to turn around, and walk toward you one by one.

[rocky plover]

Or they don't cuff up the suspects and get shot again

[molten prairie]

Some may get up and run, but the AI will put em back down again. The AI are at the very least capable of holding a doorway.

So use em as Overwatch while you slowly drag suspects out of the danger zone one by one.

[rocky plover]

I just play solo and avoid all this bullshit and worry - far easier tbh

Just takes a little bit more time and patience

[molten prairie]

This creates a system where suspects are forced to either flee deeper into the map or get arrested as you wedge everything,

[fiery vortex]

iirc, does not having full/front and back coverage make whatever plates you don't cover kevlar automatically?

[rocky plover]

Yes

Correct

[fiery vortex]

thx

[rocky plover]

👍

[somber wolf]

…why not just use full kevlar

[fiery vortex]

no like trying to figure out if it's worth running frontal steel and leave the rest as kevlar or run full ceramic

cause if I do get kevlar on the side and not just an unarmoured hitbox it'll be appealing

[somber wolf]

either full kevlar or ceramic

ceramic at full gives you five seconds of survivability against continuous gunfire (experienced)

[rocky plover]

I use front only steel it's the best if you know how to face threats and avoid getting flanked

[somber wolf]

Thats five seconds to get your ass to cover

[somber wolf]

doesnt help much for hard players when you get pixel peaked in the eyes, now

[rocky plover]

Well thats with any armor for that matter

[somber wolf]

five seconds of surviving suspect bs is five seconds that anything can happen

[rocky plover]

With front only steel your faster than all the other combinations except Kevlar and Kevlar is trash

[somber wolf]

you must master the art of bullshido

[somber wolf]

Get in the , heavy kevlar takes more glock and 9-bangs than some whimpy front steel ever could

[rocky plover]

No lol don't spread misinformation

[somber wolf]

shhh

[rocky plover]

Kevlar 50% Vs steel 86.5% 🤣

[somber wolf]

spal

[rigid ridge]

heavy plates with kevlar??

[somber wolf]

fuck yeah heavy kevlar

[somber wolf]

Remember people, if an officer on your team goes rogue, aim for the legs

[visual mortar]

dude.

[rocky plover]

Doesn't happen to yourself

[somber wolf]

yes yes, ty for supporting my sixe

[rigid ridge]

Hey whatever gets you 100% achievements

[somber wolf]

Mhm, gotta play for the team dude

[rocky plover]

Give the AI ceramic then

[somber wolf]

I do

[rocky plover]

But they would die quick lmao

So steel is still better for them

And they still kinda die quick lmao

[somber wolf]

If AI dies, mission can continue

[rocky plover]

Even with full coverage heavy steel

[somber wolf]

If I die, mission end. Pub or commander

[rigid ridge]

2 extra slots is big to especially if you run solo no bots

[somber wolf]

I honestly have no idea what to do with the 3 slots after I do my mags on heavy armor

I mean, yeah, flashbangs. But in pubs? They’re too fast. Too special

[rocky plover]

Yea agree

[somber wolf]

2 extra slots is two extra magazines

[rocky plover]

Or utility which is what I take tbh

[somber wolf]

All tactical thinking left me when I started pubs

[rocky plover]

Lmao yeah

[somber wolf]

I just hang back 2-3 people, and only move up to breach a door, if we dont split

[rocky plover]

Depends which pubs though 😂

[somber wolf]

Otherwise I’m assisting in direct

[somber wolf]

ANA pubs

[rocky plover]

🤣

[somber wolf]

Seriously

I think it’s the “we know we’re shooting (almost) everyone” mentality that makes people sling lead properly

[rigid ridge]

For Programmed Psychosis I like light armor with steel. I like front and back to as they silently flank to often

[somber wolf]

Also dont get hawaiian shirt guys, so thats a big plus

[rocky plover]

Yea same I use front only steel and sometimes front and back steel (always light though not heavy)

[rigid ridge]

I use front only if I'm not playing true solo as its easier to get someone to cover your back

[lost inlet]

Just a normal day in roncord.

[rocky plover]

[rocky plover]

Yea both good tbh, I like the slightly more acceleration with just a front plate but yea I always face the threat and clear behind me so I don't get flanked as much

[chilly spear]

Finally got S rank on new America and the game won't give me my trophy for completing all the S ranks on the Boiling Point missions

https://tenor.com/view/balthazar-crazy-family-guy-fou-gif-11775947423386520412

[rocky plover]

Console?

[chilly spear]

PS5

why

[rocky plover]

Cos some are bugged on console

[chilly spear]

more than some. Literally half the DLC trophies are unobtainable. I did the other DLC like 6 months ago but I still don't have the trophies for them even though I did them all

Assumed they'd be fixed by now. But console is always second class citizen so I'm use to it

[rocky plover]

Damn that's bad they need to fix that

[stiff dagger]

I mainly play console but RON is the only game I play on PC

I'd get demolished otherwise

[chilly spear]

I have 4 trophies now that I did the requirements for but aren't unlocked

[rocky plover]

That's frustrating

[rocky plover]

Congrats for this though

[chilly spear]

I wouldn't have bothered had I known id be stiffed of my reward. Nobody else will know because according to the trophies I haven't done it

[stiff dagger]

Screenshot and brag

[rocky plover]

Yea I know but take it as a personal accomplishment

[stiff dagger]

That too cuz I have seen the videos and damn people getting rushed like R6 holy crap

[chilly spear]

Fellow DarkViperAU enjoyer? There aren't Cougars in missions? Runs dead? Millions to one?

[stiff dagger]

I got the DVAU plushie bro

I am a big fan

WHO TF SHOT ME

[vast flax]

turns out we are just dumb and the icon moved WAY up, like top 1/3 of the door

[chilly spear]

Will there be more dlc for this game?

Or fixes to the trophies

[stiff dagger]

Probably

Actually more than probably, highly likely

[rocky plover]

Yea I think they did that so it's away from peek door

[stiff dagger]

Y'all use C2?

I hate that stuff

[rocky plover]

Yes 2 more already in the files as placeholders

[rocky plover]

Sometimes yea for those free arrests and good morale damage

Avoid around civs though 🤣

[stiff dagger]

Bro I used it a few times and I swear I just blow up civs

I just use the Ram or the good old kick now

[rocky plover]

Yea better know what's on the opposite side first

[stiff dagger]

Yeah I'm too quick with it

Mirroring is for losers, I just send it

Or peek if it's a map with traps

[lost inlet]

Isn’t a thing in this game btw.

[rocky plover]

I avoid using mirror too but id try to listen or peek first

[stiff dagger]

Yeah, I used to love mirror but I'd rather have a shield on me to cover in case or a launcher to stun

Just like my eyesight, make them blind rather than see

[rocky plover]

I like launcher if I'm S ranking or breach shotgun for lethal loadouts

[stiff dagger]

Yeah I just did the hard mode campaign (that sucked ass btw) and used the breach shotgun

[dawn solstice]

continuing to do VOD

We are now just running at it with random guns

[stiff dagger]

I mean I wish I could kill Voll but the damn objective

[rocky plover]

Yea lol

[stiff dagger]

Would be fun if there's a future DLC of us going into a prison and finding him dead, someone suggested it on Reddit. Predators don't last long in prison

Need an airport or some type of aviation related map too

[rocky plover]

Good idea

[stiff dagger]

Oops

Angered the bot

[rocky plover]

Lol

[stiff dagger]

I was gonna say, they need to a smaller airport because LAX would take literally 3 hours to clear

[peak kayak]

No offence but I'm pretty sure using steel has outer damage when they're hit I can't remember I think it's bullet fragments or something

[stiff dagger]

I've heard conflicting reports about Steel

[lost inlet]

Isn’t a thing in this game btw.

[brazen onyx]

Airport map would spark controversy people would hate the game

[lost inlet]

Bullet hitting your steel plate can only ricochets into somewhere else except yourself.

[stiff dagger]

And elephant didn't?

Like I get your point but Elephant exists albeit with modifications compared to I assume the OG idea

It doesn't have to be commercial, could be a GA airport with a small main building, a few hangers, stuff like that

[lost inlet]

I’m pretty sure the controversy would be RoN trying to copies COD’s No Russian mission.

[rocky plover]

Spalling but it's very negligible and rarely happen tbh you have to be very close almost touching and still it's rare to happen

And if it does you won't notice either tbh

It's funny almost everyone is 'scared' when steel gets mentioned

[somber wolf]

Second best reason to wear ceramics

[stiff dagger]

Judge getting shot outside an Ambo would send me

[brazen onyx]

Void is lucky that elephant was allowed to remain as a mission, an airport map would just be pushing their luck. It’s literally tied to global terrorism

[lost inlet]

Meanwhile A New America:

[rocky plover]

Yea lol ^

[lost inlet]

Literally the 2nd 9/11.

[rocky plover]

Yeah 'indirectly'

[stiff dagger]

They do their own publishing but I get it cuz Xbox & PS might say no to it

[rocky plover]

Yea true that

[lost inlet]

Ceramic is only good in commander cause of the armorer trait.

[primal yoke]

forgetting that there was controversy over neon tomb and the fact it was somewhat depicting the prism shooting

[stiff dagger]

I will never forgot that damn pile of bodies in the center when I played the first time

[brazen onyx]

I’m not really educated as to how games get approval of their content and published etc but I’m just saying that an airport map may be a bit too much but I understand where you’re coming from. A small non commercial airport would be a great idea I have to give you that but void would have to be very careful to avoid controversy around the whole game and losing players

[stiff dagger]

Yeah true, I can understand that POV and yeah VOID needs to be careful because they are much bigger than even a few years ago.

But we are talking about a game where we play a basically Sleeper Agent for the games version of the CIA in a place that is based of Los Angeles but barely functioning

We are Alex Mason of the LSPD, not directly but you know kinda close

[primal yoke]

looking back on it, wasn’t the whole game temporarily taken off steam because of neon tomb

[stiff dagger]

According to google, trademark infringement

Nightclub was copyright

Sorry night club itself was called Prysm and I guess it was a problem

[rocky plover]

True but even then steel is still very op, becomes 91.5% protection from 86.5%

[lost inlet]

Kinda reductant and you’re only getting half of the benefits, the weaker one as well.

[surreal pelican]

How?

[brazen onyx]

Void already lost team17 when they said they were going to add school shooting map. Can’t imagine what would happen if they were going to make an airport.

[surreal pelican]

Steel provides baseline flat 86.5% protection

[stiff dagger]

I mean No Russian Exists...

Like it really depends how they do it

[brazen onyx]

Yeah.

[surreal pelican]

For too long I was blinded by the true prophecy of Steel...

Only have I opened my eyes to see it for myself when I first tried it...... Same goes for AI wearing heavy......

[stiff dagger]

😂

[surreal pelican]

Steel: Happy when bleeding

Unless you get shitty rng and then die before you get enough bleeds to recover HP

[primal yoke]

real talk we need a dlc that moves away from d platoon

[brazen onyx]

Also I would not be willing to spend an hour clearing an entire airport.

[primal yoke]

i don’t think there’s much more they can do with where we’re at right now that wouldn’t just feel like dragging the storyline along

[brazen onyx]

That would be probably the hardest mission in the game.

[stiff dagger]

e platoon

[surreal pelican]

Ana alreday by itself is a hour to clear

[brazen onyx]

Isn’t e platoon on horses 😂

[primal yoke]

patrol officer dlc where you get dragged into something much higher than your paygrade 🤷🏾‍♂️

[stiff dagger]

I forgot about that 😂

[primal yoke]

cartel or something

[stiff dagger]

It's gonna turn into Dick Wolf with all these spin offs

Ready or Not: Special Patrol

[primal yoke]

i’d like to see something with the LS sheriffs tbf, i’m fairly certain they exist in the universe they’re just never explored

[stiff dagger]

I mean so fair the whole game is from Judge's POV

[rocky plover]

Not really tbh because ceramic will still break

And then can't bleed on broken ceramic

[primal yoke]

true, but really what else would there be to do from that line if we ever got a dlc where the main focus is dismantling the MLO

MLO gone, back to the usual barricaded cartel suspects 🤷🏾‍♂️ an alternative character line would be interesting once they find a way to tie up judges storyline

[stiff dagger]

Fair point, I'm not saying it wouldn't be fun or wouldn't happen. It just hasn't been anyone except Judge so far

[stiff dagger]

Somehow, MLO returned

[primal yoke]

judge goes rogue and joins MLO to fight the USIA DLC when? 😂

[dawn solstice]

We still aint beat valley of the dolls

[stiff dagger]

Damn

[dawn solstice]

been stuck on it for a week at this point

[stiff dagger]

A week, what are you doing? Hard mode+Non Lethal Pistol only+no throwables

[dawn solstice]

nope

a normal run valley of the dolls is just my worse map

[stiff dagger]

Jeez

[dawn solstice]

Im just really bad at valley of the dolls and we just keep dieing tho hey atleast its let me test out new guns

[stiff dagger]

I usually find that one easy, clear front up until that first staircase down and wedge that door at the end of the staircase. Then go back outside and go to that right stair case at the beginning. Then slowly clear everything, shotgun works well on that map.

Big tip is just stay away from the glass, those outside enemies love shooting you from below

[dawn solstice]

we have been clearing top floor clear the first bit of bottom then clear second avoiding the center of the house as that is a deathtrap

[stiff dagger]

Yeah center is awful

[dawn solstice]

we been gettin there just takes awhile gonna hopefully get it soon

[stiff dagger]

It's not that bad though, even on hard mode I found it not too bad. Voll is annoying sometimes because he changes between laptop and his dungeon but otherwise it's fine.

[lost inlet]

You want bleed to happens as much as possible cause everytime you bleed and patched up, your health is reset back at 50% if it falls below the threshold.

[dawn solstice]

he has like 3 spots he spawns

either office/dungeon or ground floor near the tv

[stiff dagger]

Huh

Only seen him in the two I mentioned

Haven't run that map a lot recently though

[rocky plover]

Yes I know that that's why I said steel is still better

[lost inlet]

Steel gang rule!

[rocky plover]

Agree

[peak kayak]

We all know without wedges s ranks would be impossible

[stiff dagger]

Real

[rigid ridge]

What B1301 muzzle attachment should I run for MLO suspects

[rocky plover]

You should always use 12g brake irrelevant of ammo type and shotgun type

[rigid ridge]

The increased accuracy doesnt help with body armor penetration? (Grouping pellets closer)

For the spread choke

[rocky plover]

Every attachment that says increased accuracy is a lie tbh

And spread was already tightened which a previous update so it made the spread choke useless

And with buckshot you actually want some spread to hit Limbs it's actually OP

[rigid ridge]

Agreed sometimes I feel like I want more spread when I accidentally clip their plates

[rocky plover]

The only downside is during hostage situations but that's where a pistol is handy for those headshot taps

[strong fox]

Really?

[rocky plover]

Yes to an extent

[rigid ridge]

Idk the combat grip definitely helps

But thats rifles

[rocky plover]

It's useless on rifles because rifles only have vertical recoil

So vertical grip or th grip for rifles is good

[strong fox]

Quick question, do slugs blow limbs off like buckshot?

[rocky plover]

Combat grip on some submachine guns is good

No

[strong fox]

Damnit

No fun

[rocky plover]

They do cause 100% chance for arterial bleeds though

[rigid ridge]

I like the reduced weapon sway

[rocky plover]

But buckshot is superior anyways

[rigid ridge]

Yeah might as well as run a Battle Rifle if you are going slugs

[rocky plover]

Yeah it's a single projectile anyways

So true^

[rocky plover]

Im not sure about this haven't tested this in that regard

[rigid ridge]

Just makes it easier to place shots. Im always using semi when I use the combat grip with battle rifles so I dont really care about recoil as much as sway

[rocky plover]

Ah I see

[rigid ridge]

Vertical grip is nice for guns you are going to full auto I agree

[rocky plover]

Yea I do like to switch to full auto but shoot in controlled bursts like 2-3 shots bursts

Vertical grip + sfmb is quite op

[strong fox]

Which rifle brake is better anyway?

[chilly thorn]

aren't they both the same

[rigid ridge]

I guess it depends on your type of shooting, I go suppressor as well to give me even more visibility at what I'm shooting at. If you're already bursting might as well as have the sfmb

[strong fox]

Idk. Ik one reduce muzzle flash but both have reduced recoil. its possible that less muzzle flash = less recoil reduction and therefore, for pure recoil reduction, use the one that doesn't reduce muzzle flash

[chilly thorn]

just pick which one looks the coolest to you lol

[lost inlet]

SFMB.

SFMB reduces vertical recoil by 50% while ASR reduces 40%.

[strong fox]

Gotcha

Wish I could put the SFMB on the mini ak. That thing kicks like a mule

[lost inlet]

at least it's not as bad the 416.

[strong fox]

It's cool look doesn't outweigh its unwieldyness unfortunately

[strong fox]

Yup

[lost inlet]

SMG also needed muzzle and compensator options.

[strong fox]

Absolutely

Supressors dont do them justice

[wide verge]

How good/bad is swat ai at using the shield?

[cedar mulch]

The MLO isn’t the only main storyline. The Cartel has links to the Spider Organisation, and you can spot quite a few Spanish-speaking members of Los Locos at the car dealership.

As for the Spider Organisation, we still do not know what it actually is

[wide verge]

The spider seems to be human trafficking at the very least

[strong fox]

I heard The Spider was the combination of the cartel, various mafias, likely FISA, and probably Black Sentinel

A fan theory, that is

[cedar mulch]

The Spider Organisation is actually quite peculiar. Among the evidence found in the villa, there is a strange oil painting suggesting that they have existed since the 17th century. It is like a Masonic organisation wielding immense power.

[wide verge]

FISA telling you to close the container with the women inside doesn't necessarily mean they're involved criminally with the Spider. It could very well be that they have active investigations going and rescuing the women would interfere with those. A necessarily evil so to say

[cedar mulch]

The Spider Organisation has so far only been able to confirm links to the Glukhovskoye Mafia and the Los Locos Cartel. There may also be connections to Bolton Security and Mindjot.

[polar temple]

That’s actually pretty interesting, it sound familiar to theories I’ve heard about FISA links to it but I’ll need to look em up again

[chilly thorn]

its heavily implied they just dont want you to mess with the package

[rocky plover]

Isn't it 40 for sfmb and 30 for asr but yea sfmb is better

[wide verge]

Interesting. I haven't looked too deeply into the lore yet

[lost inlet]

let me check.

[wide verge]

Which could mean many things

[chilly thorn]

you know what it means.

[rocky plover]

Ok thx as I can't rn as I'm on phone and at work

[lost inlet]

ah shit, it's 40% and 30% respectively.

i'm old now. 😔

[polar temple]

FISA always pmo in these missions but I admire the storytelling because of it

[cedar mulch]

This theory is rather flimsy. This is because the Spider Organisation was established before the MLO and Black Sentinel.

[rocky plover]

Ah no worries it's still the same answer though which is sfmb is better than asr

[cedar mulch]

There are numerous details within the Spider Organisation that suggest they have existed for centuries

[rocky plover]

True yeah suppressor still has advantages such as less stress per shot etc..

[strong fox]

They could've joined in after they formed

[wide verge]

The main reasons I use suppressors are roleplay and when I hear unsuppressed gunshots I know its bad guys and not swat ai

[cedar mulch]

The MLO and Black Sentinel currently have closer ties with the Green Dragon Society

[strong fox]

The who

[chilly thorn]

The voyage painting could be Cordova Alfonsos voyage, the founder of LS.

[cedar mulch]

The Green Dragon Society is another elite group, independent of the Spider Organisation. You can see their emblem on the walls of New America.

[strong fox]

Ahh, I see

[chilly thorn]

Sins of the Father*

[cedar mulch]

I believe the Green Dragon controls MLO and USIA. Their method is clearly to carry out terrorist attacks. The Spider Organisation, on the other hand, is not quite so reckless; they are far more cunning, merely using Mafia and cartels to transport their goods.

[chilly thorn]

We don't really know much about them to make that assumption really.

[cedar mulch]

That’s right. But the Green Glove Man from the bad ending belongs to the Green Dragon Society. He’s Asian, and the Green Dragon Society originated in Asia.

[chilly thorn]

I mean we don't know, Green gloves and Asian isn't enough.

[spiral notch]

To whom does the mysterious painting and letter with seals belong to?

[chilly thorn]

Many of the Members are shown to be White too, With the portraits on sins of the father

[cedar mulch]

Spider Organisation

At Amos Villa, there is a spider letter. Also, on the back of the oil painting, there is a mention of how happy Amos made them.

[unkempt granite]

should i go lethal for greased palms on iron man?

[rocky plover]

Yea that's also valid, I give the AI the M14 for that reason lol

[cedar mulch]

At present, the Spider Organisation is part of the deep state. They have absolutely no need to carry out terrorist attacks. Only purely criminal organisations serve their interests.

[spiral notch]

Yes.

[brazen onyx]

If Ironman is not requiring you to go lethal or non lethal, then I’d say lethal would be the easiest option, no?

[rustic jackal]

yessir thats how I got mine done

[brazen onyx]

What strategies did you use for Ironman? I’m going to attempt it and I don’t want to go in blind.

[unkempt granite]

are you goikng for the hermit? because you can try to just leave your swat on spawn with wait and go full solo

or give them all heavy steel and stun launchers

[arctic ivy]

Did anyone else notice on greased palms some ai are wearing dunce caps for April fools
I haven’t heard anyone talk about it

[brazen onyx]

isn’t that the Ku klux hat?

Nevermind those are two very different things.

[arctic ivy]

No🤣🤣

I was lying btw just felt like it

[warm gate]

You mean the fake ghosts right?

[wide verge]

I know we have a bunch of AR's in the game but Id love to see a SOLGW MK1

[warm gate]

I use the mk18 or the lvar usually

[wide verge]

416 is my most used by far

[warm gate]

416 is good

[molten wasp]

It's a good gun but kicks a lot, G36C Is my go to

[warm gate]

I personally like the mk18 because its familiar to me but i will use other guns

[molten wasp]

MK18 Is underrated

I just go full on CTFSO loadout, G36C & G19

[warm gate]

I do like using the elcan tho but also the holographic is really fun on it

[molten wasp]

One thing I'm not a fan of the MK18 Is the sight that's In the way

[warm gate]

The fixed sight at the front

[molten wasp]

Yeah

[warm gate]

Yea it can get in the way bit i can be useful sometimes

[molten wasp]

True, probably run a dot sight for a clear picture

[warm gate]

Honestly if you could choose flip up sights it would be cool

[molten wasp]

That'll be cool

[warm gate]

Or like small adjustments on demand to take off your main sight or something of the sort and put on a backup

[molten wasp]

Yeah, what guns would you like to see In RoN?

[warm gate]

Honestly an ar9 some retro style stuff car15 and some other stuff maybe a thompson for the meme

[molten wasp]

Cz75 & FAL

M16A4

[warm gate]

Fal and cz75 would go hard

Honestly some suspect guns for police would be fun

[molten wasp]

Cz75 became my favourite sidearm because of this manga I read

FAL would slap

M249 I love to see that

[warm gate]

When i go to a gunstore i always look at the cz75s

[molten wasp]

Nice

[warm gate]

249 would be so fun just to air out a map

[molten wasp]

For real, unconventional for D-platoon but screw It 🤣

[warm gate]

Honeslty 2 primaries 1 secondary id have a 249 an ak47 and a 2011

[molten wasp]

I love to see some sniper rifles added In RoN, especially maps that have vantage points

[warm gate]

Honestly sniper cams where you choose what rifles they use and have a callout or fire mode would be so cool

[molten wasp]

True, guns I'll love to see Is the M4 and the custom AR that the left behind use

[warm gate]

Honestly the mpl and carl gustaf m45

[molten wasp]

Yeah, Imagine rocking the RPD

[warm gate]

Quadamah wouldnt survive

[molten wasp]

He'll be shredded

[warm gate]

I always hit him in the legs with a .308

Last time he tried to shred me and i was like nope and he slipped on a banana peel

.357 goes hard

[molten wasp]

Ha 😆

[molten wasp]

That's why I have Swan rocking the 357 because he's my shield guy

[warm gate]

Honestly suspects falling over and stuff would be so funny

[molten wasp]

Adds that realism and use It to take advantage of the situation

[warm gate]

Like imagine a left behind dude lost his prosthetic mid fight and just tripped

[molten wasp]

Wrong sticker

[warm gate]

Or one of the hand guys lost a boot and stepped on glass

[molten wasp]

Ouch, that shit would hurt

[warm gate]

All you hear is them speaking angry arabic while tracking blood

[molten wasp]

I wish void add the MLO outfits as a secret cosmetic

[warm gate]

Mlo tripping mid breach

[molten wasp]

BREACHING BREA- SHIT proceeds to fall

[warm gate]

Honeslty even on the oil rig the upf especially in that weather would be falling and clinging to rails

[unkempt granite]

i lost another iron man run to elephant

this is the 4th one i lose 💔

[molten wasp]

Damn dude hey that's impressive that you passed greased palm

[warm gate]

David oh fuck hits head on doorframe

[warm gate]

D platoon proceeds to eat shit and fall downstairs

[unkempt granite]

anything pre greased is fine but fuck

[molten wasp]

MLO guys gives judge the bombastic side eye 🤣

[unkempt granite]

and i wasn't like away from the bomb

i was at 75-90% clear of disarming it

[warm gate]

Gets up takes mask off oh fuck this tripping bullshit

[molten wasp]

But still impressive, but yeah elephant Is tense because of the guns the suspect use also on a time limit as well

[molten wasp]

Ha 😆

[warm gate]

Best way i beat elephant is full lethal rush the suspects then take the bombs and then worry abt civs

[molten wasp]

Dude I want a FAL added In RoN so bad

And Cz75

[warm gate]

It would be so cool

Twisted nerve meth heads its the cops falls right into peter griffin death pose

[molten wasp]

Give the MLO guys a taste of their own medicine

[molten wasp]

HAHAHA 🤣

[warm gate]

Theyre so damn accurate

[unkempt granite]

this time i'm not even gonna try to let anyone survive

i just wanna get that damn watch 💔

[warm gate]

After elephant run gas station non lethal a few times you wont lose cops

[molten wasp]

You got this, If there's one thing ANA taught me, It's patience

[fiery vortex]

Does JHP stagger more often compared to AP? Wondering if it’ll be a better choice for surviving as it causes them to be stunned for a second

[molten wasp]

JHP Is useful against non armour targets

[fiery vortex]

I get that, it’s just I heard some rumors it can stagger more often so wanted to confirm with you guys if it was correct

[molten wasp]

But yeah they do stagger

[fiery vortex]

Thanks, I’ll test it out ingame to see if it’s consistent enough for my style

[molten wasp]

I run JHP for my sidearm

[warm gate]

For ana i uses jhp in my 2011 and incapacitated the dudes effectively

[molten wasp]

I shoot 2 or 3 shots center mass, 80% of the time that I Incapacitated suspects

[warm gate]

I do that or Mozambique

[molten wasp]

Mozambique Is when you shoot center mass and the head after

[drifting pivot]

How do you guys make the mission hide and seek? Im using heavy vest, flash grenade launcher, HK-416 and five seven and still strugle

[warm gate]

2 center mass 1 head

[warm gate]

What ammo

[drifting pivot]

AP

[molten wasp]

You're trying to S rank It or complete It?

[warm gate]

Ceramic or steel plates

[drifting pivot]

im trying B nobody here deserves to live

[drifting pivot]

Ceramic

[warm gate]

Tf was that

[molten wasp]

Ceramic Is good for small calibers

[molten wasp]

I said the b word

Because I said hide and seek Is B to deal with