👮ron-discussion

[solemn patio]

Im stuck with a shitty magnum while you guys get the little piss missile rhat fucking swallows anything it hits whole

[copper dome]

loud incorrect buzzer

[solemn patio]

Wait gas is fixed?

[chilly thorn]

Only problem with the mark V is its too lethal that thing never incaps

[copper dome]

Sorta. It actually works now but size is still dogshit

[chilly thorn]

yeah its how it used to be witha slight necessary nerf

I still think gas is the best for general play

[solemn patio]

I possess things you will never understand.

[chilly thorn]

Also the mark V used to be able to gib but it cant anymore wth

[solemn patio]

Which is a love for cowboys and long range maps

[chilly thorn]

But they brought back post mortem dismemberment which I find hilarious because that just proves rating boards dont even test the games to see if the stuff they censored is still in

[sly nest]

I still prefer the Magnum because it is so good when snubbed for close calls.
You can pretty much shoot it when a suspect or door is pressed against you.

You get it up very quickly as well

[proven pilot]

i never even thought about that, snubbed mag has the shortest barrel length in the game

[sly nest]

Best example is those bastards that run with knives at you. You can still shoot when they stab you.

Saved my ass on Dorms last time i played

[proven pilot]

holy carp thats a lifesaver, thanks for the tip

[sly nest]

that's the upside... But consider that even if it hits hard.
-Slow firerate
-Terrible recoil
-Only 6 rounds, and if you reload you loose what you had remaining.

It's a solid choice once you embrace it. But it has it's downsides

[dense patrol]

Is it possible to get the Bad ending in "A New America" while playing with other players?

[cursive minnow]

Single player only.

[lucid raven]

HELL YEAH I FINISHED ALL MAIN MISIONS ON S RANK

im happy for my 90s swat outfit

[solemn patio]

Why is the carp holy

[proven pilot]

blessed be the carp

[solemn patio]

They need to give us a 38 special snubnose

[sly nest]

Honestly it is the only reason i play it. I love the .38's
It could even just be an ammo option.

Since you can load .38 into a .357

[solemn patio]

Yeah

[sly nest]

I will always fondly remember the times when i finished the whole game level by level with only the snubby
It was a part of a challange for myself after S ranking base game. [I ain't S-ranking the whole DLCs, only the levels i liked.] And it was... something

Free Lean was goated

[sour scaffold]

any twitch drops for this game?

[foggy fulcrum]

Nope, it's not that kind of game.

[sour scaffold]

ok i was just checking see if i missed anything

i got my toxic cammando drops lol

[sand abyss]

are they going to fix the swat AI tossing their deployables like wet bags?

[eternal drum]

is it me or does the supernova have a much longer clearance than the others?

[sand abyss]

in what way?

[dawn solstice]

Me and my freaind are moving quick through these missions

Like there is a flow state of two people who have gotten very good at workin together

[surreal pelican]

I pray hard to void they fix this

[lost pawn]

Could they make the ballistics in this game anymore inconsistent or not holy fuck its terrible

[somber wolf]

Yuuuup, buuuut it does feel better for target acquisition

[eternal drum]

with the irons? or

[somber wolf]

I think all sights are further away

Or something, it just feels better

[dawn solstice]

We are speedrunnin rn

[eternal drum]

oh yeah the fov is much higher when aiming. unfortunately its a detriment to me considering the fins on the side

[somber wolf]

To each their own

The truth? I use the B1301

[eternal drum]

absolutely. im glad its kind of both for the range of weapons

oh same, i dont think the fov is as high with that one tho

[somber wolf]

Supernova has the unique fov. B1301 just feels nice

Wanna know a secret?

[chilly thorn]

all the shotguns are really good

except that.. one...

[eternal drum]

aye, its probably performatively the better one too, 8+1 is pretty up there

[eternal drum]

except the nova? i agree, it also has a weird experience in multiplayer

[tiny girder]

I'm sorry
You are not Ready

[eternal drum]

im hitting y right now

[tiny girder]

XM1014 all the way

[eternal drum]

oh, yyeah its a good trade if youd rather load faster and roleplay inverted loading on a... shotgun that wouldnt support that

[tiny girder]

Just like papa has intended

[cold garnet]

is anyone else having issues with ron deleting saves in commander mode?

[chilly thorn]

No SUper nova is goated

Im talking about the 590M it feels disgusting

[eternal drum]

OH, nah i actually cant use it in cqc, it colides with walls at a further distance and thats a detriment for me

[dawn solstice]

we keep getting c ranks

but they like practice runs where we are just getting the route down

[civic fiber]

wdym

[sonic saddle]

hello

name 1 level from the base game of ready or not fr

[chilly thorn]

Sights constantly move around and misalign due to the weight of the mag, The mag is ugly. It only has 10 Rounds for a "High Capacity Shotgun." It's long as hell. and Doesn't have the benefit of most shotguns being basically never having to run out of ammo due to topping off the shotgun constantly. The only benefit is being able to switch ammo types easier.

[civic fiber]

its only problem is the fire rate wdym

[chilly thorn]

The firerate isn't an issue

since shotguns usually oneshot anyway

I think the smoothest feeling shotgun is the supernova

[eternal drum]

it doesnt colide with walls as far

[civic fiber]

this is true

[chilly thorn]

I do wish pump shotguns in this game made it so you physically have to rack the pump like you do in rdr2, It makes pump shotguns feel so much more satisfying.

should be an option imo

[eternal drum]

ground branch kinda does that, that and it also does a pump upon letgo

[chilly thorn]

yeah but its ground branch and nobody wanna play that

[eternal drum]

absolutely, im just thinking what other games even do that. so far we have two lol

[chilly thorn]

Rdr2 has the most satisfying pump shotguns I've ever used

but rdr2 is also one of the smoothest third person shooters out there so I suppose it makes sense

JUDGE NO LONGER SAYS BAGGING ON THE BOAT???? VOID FINALLY

[storm belfry]

I don't really like the shotguns in ready or not

[eternal drum]

its alright. btw once my cooldown is off ill show you what i mean with the nova's wall collision. its ridiculously long

[storm belfry]

Not cause their bad, but cause I get spooked whenever I accidentally slam fire my shotgun

[chilly thorn]

I wish you could load more unique rounds into them.

Let me load beanbags into the super nova

[storm belfry]

like Payday 2 style

Let me fire bird shot at Vol

[chilly thorn]

Payday 2 frag rounds lol

[storm belfry]

"Pepper them in bbs" - 50 BMG Rat Shot

[chilly thorn]

DUDE PD2 FRAG ROUNDS WERE SO BAD I REMEMBER THE SHEER DISSAPOINTMENT I FELT WHEN I FIRST USED THEM

[eternal drum]

anti-shield subculture

[storm belfry]

Every time I use the shield my black gets blown up by all the enemies, so I usually spin around with it while working with it

[chilly thorn]

Ap slugs

Pd2 fiveseven my beloved some how going through thick ass steel

[storm belfry]

HESH slug

High Speed Brick of C4

[vestal scaffold]

I just got capped and stood over

this game awesome

💔✌️

[storm belfry]

🦅

[vestal scaffold]

femboy?

I need one of those

[eternal drum]

ye back in the day it was frag rounds for some reason. plot twist just melee them with that aced skill i fogor the name

[storm belfry]

I need me a Beanbag 12g

[chilly thorn]

I prefer sniper rifles

[uncut mountain]

woohoo, s ranked valley of the dolls

[crude prism]

Yeah but it's been in dev for 19 years!

Surely it's fleshed out by now

[vestal scaffold]

I need a Oz

I got a Q

[chilly thorn]

Whenever people complain about RoNs rocky development I have to remind them about the state of other tactical shooters

[crude prism]

[chilly thorn]

I'd rather have a game with buggy ai then something like fucking insurgency sandstorm

[cedar mulch]

Is the accuracy rating for suspects in meth labs, petrol stations and flats 2.5? Or is it a special case?(Hard mode)

[crude prism]

Sucks that INS:S died mid development and got a half baked release and never really got a full after-launch development to round it out

Like no, one map and 2 guns a year doesn't count guys

[chilly thorn]

Ready or not is surviving soley because it tries something different.

[hybrid wren]

Is it even realistic that suspects scream after being shot at?

[chilly thorn]

You mean like the long and violent incap sounds?

Very realistic and very well acted

[hybrid wren]

Whenever you google something about it on the internet all the soldiers and tough guys alike say that they didnt ever cry or scream cause adrenaline

[earnest pike]

Js shoot them in the head

[lost inlet]

Tarzan scream still go off.

[hybrid wren]

And that like bullet hurts only really hours later after being shot

[earnest pike]

Soliders are trained for that stuff a random street thug isnt gonna have the same reaction

[eternal drum]

it lerped the moment mikee wantted weird skins in the game in 2021

[chilly thorn]

If you realize your body is shot up to the point where you fall over you are going to fucking scream like a banshee most likely

Incapped doesn't only mean knocked out you most likely physically paralyzed them for life like johnny joestar

[storm belfry]

I remember when you made this gif

[crude prism]

Hey it's basically brand new I just screenshotted GBs playercount to add it to the image as a beggar

[chilly thorn]

Ground branch is the type of game I can only describe as smelly

[storm belfry]

"We added 1 new camera and got rid of the headphone jack"

[crude prism]

"Cag Youtuber Bait"

[cedar mulch]

Would things be much better if VOID acquired Sandstorm?

[storm belfry]

no

[chilly thorn]

I hate military youtubers so much they all have the same personality lol

[storm belfry]

They can barely keep RoN fresh

They leave us on life support every few months

[crude prism]

VOID should round out their RoN development on a high note (as long as it keeps popularity) and then move on to their next product, they have promise as a studio

[hybrid wren]

50 bmg 🤠👢

[chilly thorn]

Void are VERY talented when it comes to art style

every RoN level just has this grime to it

[storm belfry]

Laser Pig my beloved

[hybrid wren]

Eh nah, it reminds me of dead by daylight

And phasmophobia

[chilly thorn]

what graphics are you even playing on bro

[storm belfry]

Judge fights Oni

[hybrid wren]

High

Character models in particular look Phasmophic

[storm belfry]

We're playing RoN? I thought we were supposed to be enforcing the law irl

[cedar mulch]

What if the next game is a PvP game featuring LSPD VS other factions?

[crude prism]

hey look it's u

[hybrid wren]

I wouldnt mind cartoonish graphics

[storm belfry]

I KNEW IT

[chilly thorn]

This games art style is very good imo it has that early 2000s look with the extremely harsh lighting and colors which I love

[hybrid wren]

Like in SWAT4

[crude prism]

I genuinely believe that niche PvP games are a dead market and you have better odds of winning the lottery than getting a comp game off the ground

[chilly thorn]

swat 4 was realisitic for the time

[storm belfry]

Ultra Realistic vs Sunshine and lolipops

[surreal pelican]

[hybrid wren]

Games had to be stylized at the time

[chilly thorn]

Swat 4 looks like slightly better then Gta 4 which was the graphics style of the time its called the "HD era"

Ready or not looks like an HD era game but with modern tech

[urban mural]

So when can we get balaclava/face masks in RoN without playing in multiplayer?

[hybrid wren]

Never

[chilly thorn]

especially in the lighting

[cedar mulch]

They could be made to look like Arma 3

[hybrid wren]

LSPD is so ballsy that they deal with Pos Locos without facemasks with their faces plastered all over

[crude prism]

My PC is levitating trying to render Void creating an environment with more than 2 enterable buildings

[urban mural]

Nah they hide those in some room.

[chilly thorn]

Voids style of map design kinda reminds me of rockstar in a weird way

even their assets have the same look

[cedar mulch]

For example, on the Border map, BDRTAC vs Los Locos. The cartel can use drones and set traps, and can escape by boat.

[chilly thorn]

Thats making me wish the Yacht in ready or not was a pirate boarding

THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN SICK AS FUCK WE MISSED OUT 💔

[rough hearth]

anyone got sugestions to get up the final stair well on A New America for the solo hard achievement? keep clearing the first 3 floors just to die on the stairwell

[hybrid wren]

Why would pirates capture a yacht

[chilly thorn]

Thats literally what pirates do

they board ships kill everyone and take their shit

[hybrid wren]

They capture cargo ships iirc

[velvet steeple]

robbers don’t only rob banks

[chilly thorn]

They target rich people as well

[cedar mulch]

The pirates have been completely wiped out. The amusement park is their last remaining stronghold.

[velvet steeple]

pirates don’t only rob freighters

[lime kernel]

Pray in the church

Do every ritual for more luck

And try come up with not damaged

[chilly thorn]

Im not talking about a new map, more of a rewrite for Mirage At Sea with the Navigators of Chaos doing a ship boarding rather then the stupid hostage active shooter thing this game has

[lime kernel]

That's my best advice

[rough hearth]

thanks lmao, ive spent 30+ hours on this achievement already, that final stairwell is my downfall

[tiny girder]

SEVEN
MILLION
FLASHBANGS

[chilly thorn]

make enough noise to draw them to walk down

[cedar mulch]

As you see it, this map must be a three-way battle. The security firm and the pirates are attacking each other.

[chilly thorn]

not if everyone is already dead

[rough hearth]

been trying that aswell as flash light and they just stay camped in their corners

[chilly thorn]

It worked for me once lol

[proven pilot]

flash launcher
rotary flash launcher
flash bangs
9 bangs
full-coverage steel armor plates
anti-flash goggles

[chilly thorn]

As much as I love new america that achievement is as sdumb as sleeper agent

[proven pilot]

oh if thats the issue use cs gas

[rough hearth]

is your method with this to skip through and get to the ammo up top?

[proven pilot]

yes

[lime kernel]

Clean in solo 25 dudes...

[proven pilot]

no man youll get murked
just use them all wisely, and invest in many many many rounds for the rotary launcher

and dont set off the detonator, voids the achivement

[lime kernel]

Y'know
I don't really need 100% Ready or Not if to think about it...

[hybrid wren]

Fair point

[eternal drum]

#🎨ron-screenshots-and-art message

why i dont really use nova

[chilly thorn]

"Do a map in solo that is designed to be only be played with swat ai"

[rough hearth]

i regret re installing, lost my 100%

[proven pilot]

god that sucks

[chilly thorn]

Remember the pirate boarding in max payne 3

[proven pilot]

why is it so long

[idle burrow]

real

[lime kernel]

"with players that do know their job"*

[eternal drum]

thats what im saying, its effectively double the length

[rough hearth]

wait fr?

i had full intention to just let the dude blow up

[proven pilot]

yup, it fails an objective and in my experience failing a main objective fucks everything up\

[eternal drum]

complete objectives, setting it off fails cobjectives

corn on the cobjective

[lime kernel]

For fucks sake, I was doing new America with my friend that annihilated every mission at S rank

Even together, with 7 flashbangs and rifles, we fucked up

[proven pilot]

happened to me doing my hard run on Twisted Nerve, didn't count bc a civvie got shot

[chilly thorn]

S ranks in Coop are horrible

[lime kernel]

Not if you doing them with friends

They're though, if you do in public

[rough hearth]

it just states "Complete 'A New America'", the same way "The Heat is on" says "Complete 'All gods burn' without armour and what not".

i re ran All gods burn to help others get the achievement. we killed all civs and everything and they still got achievement which obviously fails the rescue civiliians

[lime kernel]

Some fuckass 100% would grab at the Elephant peppergun bro

[rough hearth]

S ranks are easy, 3 dudes with flash launchers and basic brain function and its simple

Even 2 people

[lime kernel]

Not really

They need more than 90 IQ

Just so people shoot in floor, not the body with flashbang launcher

[chilly thorn]

pepperball guns get too much disrespect

they are really fun

[lime kernel]

Cuz they doesn't fucking work

[rough hearth]

pepperball guns deserve the disrespect

[lime kernel]

If someone will shot me with 1 pepperball IRL

I'd fall fucking down with my eyes burning and me dying

[chilly thorn]

3 shots consistent stun 1 shot is enough to get most suspects to surrender

Long range too

[lime kernel]

These fuckasses tank 3 shots, and only at 4th start coughing (they'll headshot your ass through helmet and bulletproof mask)

[chilly thorn]

Leave CS around the air meaning they can't fake surrender

[proven pilot]

for real? not for me

[chilly thorn]

Most suspects that aren't actively shooting at you will immediently surrender from 1

[proven pilot]

oh that explains it

you know what would work when they are

[chilly thorn]

3 is always a stun no matter what even if they have a gas mask oddly

[proven pilot]

beanbags to their beanbag

[chilly thorn]

plus they have no recoil unlike the beanbag

[proven pilot]

flash launcher

[lime kernel]

I believe in Beanbag supremacy

[chilly thorn]

Reload is slow and one single button push can force your run to reset

Zero ability to top off

Beanbag and Pepperrifle are the best

[gaunt gyro]

So what's the best non-lethal loadout in summary guys?

[proven pilot]

that is a bit stupid that it doesnt load up like a shotty

[toxic swallow]

trying to do all gods must burn no armor achievement, feels impossible, any tips?

[chilly thorn]

truthfully any nonlethal is good just use what feels best

[proven pilot]

i watched a video that said go on the left side once spawning in and hide behind a pillar free-leaning and slowly peeking

[lost inlet]

Funnily enough, pepperball used to be insta stun on the first hit so it was incredibly power back then.

[storm belfry]

My PS5 fucking detonated trying to render Void creating a map with more than 1 enterable building

[lost inlet]

Downside is you needed to spam whereas beanbag is insta surrender on the first hit.

[proven pilot]

yeah thats TOO good
at least make it like land 2 direct shots/ 4 indirect shots to make a suspect surrender
that seems like good balance

[crude prism]

meanwhile now Void is like "yeah Hard mode doesn't suck enough, make pepperball take 42 shots to stun people"

[toxic swallow]

does no armor mean no helmet too?

[proven pilot]

or better yet implement euphoria physics with the taser so they spasm on the floor

[proven pilot]

yuh

[chilly thorn]

swat 4 peppeball actually ruined the game lol

[storm belfry]

Watching it take 4 direct hits

I shoot 4 hits suspect fired 360 rounds of 7.62

[chilly thorn]

LOL YOU CAN DISABLE THE BOMBERS VEST WHILE THEY ARE TASED

the method just dropped

[storm belfry]

Yeah, they can't resist you can they?

[lost inlet]

They also worked on that, teased in one of the newsletter but never released any updates that comes along with it.

[chilly thorn]

they try to ignite it repeatably

[storm belfry]

Better hope they don't accidentally go off

[lost inlet]

So yeah, suspect laying the floor after getting tased is somewhere in their files, just refusing to gives it to us.

[lost inlet]

Not necessarily.

[proven pilot]

i hope taser flop is implemented soon, dire need

[toxic swallow]

i hate the cheev descriptions, they aren't detailed enough

[proven pilot]

cheev?

[toxic swallow]

achievement

[proven pilot]

ah i see

true, they suck BAD

[toxic swallow]

so grenade launcher counts as grenade i assume?

[proven pilot]

better safe than sorry

id assume so, VOID wouldnt allow that loophole

[dawn solstice]

Okay anyone got any like routes they like to do for valley of dolls

Like where to clear first?

[proven pilot]

id clear the top portion first

[dawn solstice]

We beat greased palms suprisengly quick

Tho only c rank

Rn the plan is. Clear the top floor then work our way door to the middle floor clear that go outside clear clear inside the house then clear the basement

[chilly thorn]

I like how you can visibly see the sweat on suspects lol

[proven pilot]

looking at the map id say clear the third floor and then have one team go to the second floor via the patio. clear simutaneouly to cover from above and below

[toxic swallow]

ya this isn't possible

[proven pilot]

i just thought they were made of rubber

[toxic swallow]

we're done lol

[proven pilot]

relateable, good work

[chilly thorn]

Posted a screenshot of an extreme close up of a suspects face, suprisingly detailed.

[proven pilot]

take a drink and a bite, even if you didnt win you tried you best and lived and learned

[proven pilot]

that is surprisingly detailed damn

truth be told i thought all of the resolution was borked since lss

[dawn solstice]

we are a duo

So unable to really split up.

[chilly thorn]

Character models are incredibly good in this game sometimes, but some of the civillians models that are old look like dogshit

Swat character models look good at least.

[proven pilot]

makes things difficult, but i see a plan

[toxic swallow]

any tips for a new america? that one is also near impossible

[dawn solstice]

also its second and ground that are big problem of above and below

[proven pilot]

oh yeah they need to rework those

[proven pilot]

do recon on casual, familiarize

[dawn solstice]

We could split on that floor perhaps we are both compitent enough to handle ourselves

[proven pilot]

i say clear third, then go back through the patio to the 1st. one goes up to 2nd deck once a portion is cleared, then you all flash and clear your slices of that pie

[toxic swallow]

we've done enough recon, enemies just one shot you and stuff

[dawn solstice]

Hmmm that could work

I honestly just want the b rank on it for the short sleeves

We beat greased palms in 5 tries im impressed with that one

[chilly thorn]

its so odd to me this game has really detailed suspect models but the civillians look like shit

[dawn solstice]

Not a perfect run by far but we beat it

[toxic swallow]

so when i have a mod on, like just one where you can shoot in the police station, clearing a mission says unofficial score, but it still counts on my account?

[chilly thorn]

Like swat 4 characters looked like shit even for the time but at least it was consistently shit

[stuck jay]

Yo chat would it be cool if they added a mission that’s the final mission of the game called hide and seek and your at port hokan?

[left kayak]

any tips on how to s all new america?

[tropic parrot]

play with another 31 players

[warm gate]

[chilly thorn]

dont (In all seriousness just play it slow with swat ai and use all the tools at your disposal, especially the taser and grenades.)

I'd recommend the beanbag and having at least 1 swat ai with the flashbang launcher, dont bring gas as the MLO are immune.

[exotic slate]

Flash bang grenades

[warm gate]

I got brittney spears stuck in my head

[dawn solstice]

anyone got a fav gun for playing just quick

Ive noticed ive had to adjust to a quicker playstyle more often is all (I understand its a terminal sin to go fast but hey matters who yah play with)

[chilly thorn]

None of the guns are really viable for a quick playstyle since the game isn't designed around it

[dawn solstice]

I more meant a gun with fast rate of fire/ easy to drop someone but not quite kill

[exotic slate]

Any tips on keeping my AI squad from starting fire fights on the oposite side of the map on Hide and Seek

[chilly thorn]

P90 or any smg really

[rustic raven]

How do you use your laser while both a flashlight and laser are equipped?

I wasn't able to find any setting

[chilly thorn]

P90 is kinda the best gun in the game

[dawn solstice]

I find im running point/alone now and again with my duo which is fine its how we play idm but i think i gotta adjust to there pace

[chilly thorn]

hold down your attachment key to switch what module your using. Like switching tabs.

[dawn solstice]

We do have a very good silent understanding of how we move tho

[rustic raven]

THANKS! Do you know how to set your microphone to open, instead of push to talk. I swear there was a setting before, but it may have been removed or put somewhere else.

[chilly thorn]

I usually spend like 30 minutes on a map in coop lol

Sadly its not in the game and its never been. Idk why

[dawn solstice]

One second lemme see how quickly we beat greased palms

[chilly thorn]

My quickest time in ready or not was 3 minutes in neon tomb

[dawn solstice]

Greased palms c rank 13 mins

ik the ranks awful it was a test run

[exotic slate]

I think the in game timer is bugged
Sayes i did Elephant in 38 seconds

[dawn solstice]

We are just going through the levels playin em havin fun

[chilly thorn]

I mean A+ rank is usually what I shoot for if to many suspects die I just restart

In singleplayer

[dawn solstice]

Ye we arent quite going for all A+

Just can we beat it

Hmmm do i make a flash loadout...

Nahhh Cs Gas all the way

[chilly thorn]

I use all of them

[spark haven]

BTW did they fix presents resetting? So you can have more than like 5

[dawn solstice]

how are 9 bangs and normal flashes different

Like is the 9 bang one just better or like

[exotic slate]

9 bang has a 5 meter range
regular has like a 15

[dawn solstice]

Hmm you think its worth tactical being flash launcher then 9 bangs for grenade slot?

[primal yoke]

iirc 9 bang has a smaller range but longer stun time. regular flashes got a longer range but don’t stun for as long

[exotic slate]

My primary is the flash bang launcher so idk

[primal yoke]

i think it’s only like a second difference in stun time between the two

i just run the 9 bang cos ive got an ape brain and more bangs = better

[dawn solstice]

ye i just dunno what one to take or maybe should swap the tactical to like mirror gun all i remember is m320 flash is great when solo

And the only other options is either shield which is just nope breaching device my duo has the battering ram always a different launcher or mirrorgun

[exotic slate]

I just use regular flash bangs

[dawn solstice]

Mirror gun could be really helpfull

[idle burrow]

I love seeing an increased presence of Programmed Psychosis attempters in #🎬ron-clips-and-media really showcasing how the Hard AI in that level is just max fuckery

[exotic slate]

Pepper ball SMG or Rifle?

[idle burrow]

Neither, but if I had to pick one the Rifle

SMG has even less capacity iirc

[exotic slate]

what would you give your squad for S rank attempts?

[calm shuttle]

one of my friends is completely unable to play multiplayer

anyone have a fix

he can't even join a public game, like he won't even queue up

[idle burrow]

Beanbags. Yes, they can accidentally kill a suspect, but the chances are relatively low and on Standard, you shouldn't take too many attempts if you're experienced

Also, you're better off equipping a Flash launcher (M32 Rotary) and anti-flash goggles (especially on squadmates) to get blind or hard-to-reach spots. You can also use a lethal handgun to break glasses that might prevent the launcher from going to an intended location

[exotic slate]

I play on hard but il give it a shot

[idle burrow]

Lmao don't bro, hard cooks the SWAT AI by like a fuck ton. They'll melt before they can retaliate

[exotic slate]

Im on hide and seak on hard
I will finish

[idle burrow]

Welp, I bid you good luck

[exotic slate]

I always use the flash launcher but I worried my squad would just burn through ammo to fast

[ebon trench]

Anyone know Whos the guy with red pants and a blue jacket in a new America? Whats his role

[chilly thorn]

Random ass dude idk

[idle burrow]

Maybe I should clarify: Team equips beanbags while you equip the Rotary Flash Launcher. This way, your squad should have enough ammo to deal with the whole map while you flash and clear blind spots and create a safe passage for your team.

[exotic slate]

My main problem is 100% the fact the AI squad will fire on people on the oposite side of the map

[proud ledge]

I'm waiting for the day the devs put their crackpipes down and actually play their own game. I'm convinced they have ChatGPT programming it, at this point.

[chilly thorn]

I mean the bugs aren't too bad right now

at least in my expierence.

This games biggest issues is the snappy animations imo

[lucid raven]

its only me or hunger strike is so dificult

[chilly thorn]

doesn't that map have like 4 suspects

[proud ledge]

It's the enemy AI on the latest DLC for me 💅

[lucid raven]

7

[chilly thorn]

I mean the layout is kinda irritating I suppose

[lucid raven]

and in less of a minute the suspects start killing civilians

[chilly thorn]

I mean the MLO I find fair I don't really see their issues I can manage them just fine

I just wish the animations were better

[boreal stratus]

that last mission has to be bugged right? i'm getting one tapped through walls, or one framed by enemies with no chance to react

[proud ledge]

No, they're just lazily programmed. Turn proficency up, increase headshot chance, increase awareness/reaction distance, ignore walls at a certain distance, etc. It's not hard, it's simply lazy.

[chilly thorn]

Motion sensor

[lucid raven]

try to play it and you will see the problem

[chilly thorn]

Plus they also use cameras people forget about that

[night jewel]

Hey, are Boiling Point are DLC4 or 3?

[chilly thorn]

Boiling point is DLC4

[night jewel]

uhh am I missing something here

[chilly thorn]

Los Seunos Stories

[night jewel]

Ohhhhh

[chilly thorn]

LSS is most likely to be expanded with more maps in the future

[night jewel]

Okay, I thought Im bad at counting

6 DLCs huh, I hope they add drivable car

[chilly thorn]

oh that would be hilarious

[night jewel]

https://tenor.com/view/skeletor-skeletor-laugh-skeletor-run-skeletor-laugh-and-run-laugh-and-run-gif-5602375011316643399

Uhhh

[proud ledge]

It is, but the RoN devs and some community menbers are historically notorious for ignoring broken AI. It took multiple people showing the devs that the enemy AI was literally reacting faster than the human brain could react, down to the exact milisecond, before they fixed what they broke during the Code Adam update. The whole time, the community was just going "DURR SKILL IZZUE, SKILL IZZUE", defending a broken game.

[chilly thorn]

Lowk im usually the "Don't shoot people type of person" but I would 100% be doing as much vehicular manslaughter as possible if they give me a fucking car

[proud ledge]

The nightclub mission would be so much easier if we could just drive an LAV through the front door

[chilly thorn]

I love neon tomb that maps perfect in my eyes

[proud ledge]

The devs aren't ready for armored cars, though. They can barely program functioning gas grenades

[chilly thorn]

God they cooked so hard with some levels and then just ignored some others

[proud ledge]

It is very fun

[night jewel]

Are you talking abt Hard mode? yeah stay away from that man, it sucks

[chilly thorn]

Gas is literally the same as it was in dark waters currently just with a much needed nerf.

[night jewel]

Not for me, the Neon light makes me dizzy

[proud ledge]

No, I'm talking about the historical behavior of RoN's community and devs.

[chilly thorn]

Hard mode is fine for me but its too overtuned to be a normal hard mode it should be a professional/mad house mode

their 4 difficulties Casual, Standard, Hard, and Professional

[proud ledge]

It should just be normal and easy. Why hard mode? Just make the AI more reactive and creative, while giving the player more freedom of movement.

[chilly thorn]

Most the flaws with this game is because the community begging the devs to nerf the ai all the time leading to them being gutted in actual intellegence

Unironically the MLO are the only fun suspects to actually engage in a gunfight with in this game

because the devs didn't hold back

[proud ledge]

Yeah, you're wild for that take

Full-stop

This DLC is like the worst AI I've played against in any tactical shooter.

[night jewel]

Hard more should be the opposite of freedom of movement

[chilly thorn]

suspects being able to actually be crafty is not an issue, Shoot out the cameras, Turn off the Cameras power, and avoid the motion sensors and the MLO won't be able to track you

I miss when suspects would hide in a corner and blow my dome off with a shotgun immediently if I didn't check a corner in adam update but now they always miss or body shot my armor for some reason

[exotic slate]

can I play with mods and still get achievments?

[chilly thorn]

Yeah

[night jewel]

Jeez dude, I wish the AI will go and take cover when I command my swat to breach the door. or when they spotted me doing flank or geoing to different path, the AI will just go forward and charge from behind while the guard on different entrance also storming in on us.

They lack of tactical thinking.

[chilly thorn]

THEY USED TO DO THAT BUT THE "FANS" SAID THEY WERE JOHN WICK AI

[exotic slate]

I need a mod to be able to walk though my squadmates

[chilly thorn]

They rarely even take cover any more

[proud ledge]

The suspect AI is incredibly inconsistent. The issue isn't me dying to mistakes, it's the AI switching from lobotomy patient to John Wick in a matter of seconds, as well as shooting the second they turn and somehow hitting me perfectly, every time or shooting a silhouette around me and managing to miss every shot point blank. It's just poor scripting.

[chilly thorn]

well yeah hard mode is poorly done I will admit that but standard is perfectly fine

its just too easy apart from the MLO

[proud ledge]

It's not just hard, it's standard as well

[chilly thorn]

Legit only the MLO fight like that now

[proud ledge]

Then that's poor game design

Literally none of the enemies have half of the skill of the MLO. Also, it's just goofy the devs have gone full CoD by having you fight paramilitaries in City Hall.

[chilly thorn]

I will admit the turning has issues, but I don't have a problem with being able to get one shotted randomly in a gun fight

Thats how it worked in swat 4 its part of the thrill the fear of getting killed instantly

[night jewel]

Brix and Vol Security and The Left Behind should do that too since theyre trained troops.

[chilly thorn]

The left behind should be way stronger then they are currently

[proud ledge]

Might as well have Captain Price give you a brief before the mission and have a corny military text appear when you start the mission in the bottom left corner.

[night jewel]

Agree on this, should be on par with MLO

[chilly thorn]

I mean the MLO has been hyped up for the last 8 years if they weren't fucking insane I would be mad as hell

[chilly thorn]

Maybe not as good the MLO are literally programmed for combat

[proud ledge]

But Swat 4 was consistent. I played that game for hours and got absolutely wiped for hours, but it never felt cheap. Maybe some jank might have gotten me a few times, but it's just a very well designed and well thought out game. RoN is not.

[chilly thorn]

but they definently should be at least more tactical with supression or such

[night jewel]

They had squad tactics if I heard it right, if 2 or more MLOs are together

[chilly thorn]

I mean swat 4 has its own sleugh of issues with suspect combat because the combat is a complete after thought also it helps to remember Swat 4 had a full triple A team and budget, This game will get there eventually. I hope. They have already shown improvements they just have to focus on the suspects actual intellegents.

[proud ledge]

The only reason I'm complaining is because I remember what the game was SUPPOSED to be when I first bought it. The tension, the fear, the atmosphere. It had it all, but then they just turned it into slop.

Even the voice lines are AI, like the devs just straight up do not care.

[night jewel]

btw, the AI using cover are still in the game but its so rarely seen. I saw one on Voll's Security blind firing me and my men.

[chilly thorn]

Their is ai art but none of the voicelines in this game are ai

I still find it funny how swarz is voiced by fucking joseph joestar

[chilly thorn]

the game works 99% of the time for me, you can't just discount all the good in this game because you got killed by a buggy ai once

[proud ledge]

"Once"

[chilly thorn]

I will admit sometimes the ai will pull some bullshit but its rare

[proud ledge]

Lol. Lmao, even.

The level of delulu has not changed. And neither will this game or it's community. Enjoy your slop.

[chilly thorn]

Someone was really mad about the motion sensors lol

[chilly thorn]

I know they used to actually do it together, I rememeber on old dealership I got jumped by two guys hiding behind two pillars and they aired me out in perfect sync it was amazing

You'll never see something like that in the modern game

[night jewel]

I wish I got invited to do voice acting

[chilly thorn]

You still can if you want to apply I bet

Just remember you moaning into the mic is going to be on the internet forever

[night jewel]

[chilly thorn]

have you heard some of the pain lines in this game lol, One of them literally vomitted you can hear it.

Its the type of effort I can commend I just hope they are paid well.

[eternal drum]

only dissonance with the game and pain lines is that they dont cut short from a death trigger

[chilly thorn]

They do now

It suprised me too

[eternal drum]

im pretty sure if they're killed they still play the line, so i guess it would need yet another trigger

[chilly thorn]

If someone bleeds out it will play a bleed out sound (which is usually heavy breathing or coughing) followed by a death voiceline which is usually struggling to breath, screaming or gurgling. and Then if you shoot them at any point they will either play the death line early or stop making sound

Incap lines can be cut off by shooting them in the head but thats illegal

[night jewel]

yea yea i know, Im fine with hurt moan bruh

[chilly thorn]

if you shoot an incapped person in the body they will play their death sound another shot will shut them up entirely

[eternal drum]

its fine its just a little loud

[eternal drum]

lemme play with this rq

[chilly thorn]

They also seemingly have unique lines for gibbing now

but I've only heard them once

[eternal drum]

ive only heard the gibbing squelch

it might be louder than the VO

idk ill have to pay attention to it. i swear some suspects are too long winded for incap or death sounds

[night jewel]

Man, talking about dying. I wish they add Europhia physics on ragdoll.

Do you guys think its possible?

[chilly thorn]

Its.... kinda possible

theres a mod called ragdolls return that is psuedo active ragdolls

but euphoria would be impossible without rebuilding the engine to work with it

also big revaltion from viewing freecams

suspects blind firing means they ACTUALLY cant see what they are shooting at so they will just blind fire if they think something is there

so thats actually really cool

[idle burrow]

Sick, so what about the part where the suspect starts roaming and suddenly finds out where I am after repositioning across the whole building?
https://youtu.be/CgMCgi61vGA

[obsidian hornet]

Alright everyone. I hereby declare this channel Hashbrown Cat channel

Post Hashbrown Cat

[rocky plover]

Only if you trip an IR motion detector I think

[chilly thorn]

I leanred that the suspects on pier just kinda shoot off rounds into nothing to make it seem like its an active shooting

only when they are off screen

[rich quartz]

Did they bump up the accuracy of the standard difficulty suspects? They seem a lot more accurate now

[chilly thorn]

they are actually less accurate im pretty sure, depends on the suspect.

[gilded imp]

the MLO and spetnaz 💀

that mf has an anoying accuracy

but i think the open field help them so much,the way to aim in this game is not confortable like other games

[signal magnet]

one tip does supressors help or no?

[molten prairie]

Yesn’t.

It technically reduces the radius in which suspects hear shots, but it’s so minimal that it might as well not suppress anything at all.

[signal magnet]

got it

[molten prairie]

The real usage of the suppressor is that it cuts down on muzzle flash which makes it easier to shoot.

Especially when wearing NVG’s.

[signal magnet]

I hope maybe they buff supressor range nerf

[jolly verge]

Suppressors reduces suspects stress gain per shot, gunshot hearing radius is still the same.

[signal magnet]

bro my data just got deleted...

[wide verge]

Best entry point on the yacht?

[rocky plover]

I like the sundeck spawn and work my down - top to bottom

[nimble robin]

Also cuts off most of the recoil

[rocky plover]

in game the suppressor barely reduces any recoil compared to the other options

[molten prairie]

Personally I’ll take a suppressor over a muzzle break.

[nimble robin]

I though he said about the real usage

[molten prairie]

I shoot semi auto anyways so recoil ain’t a major concern.

[rocky plover]

SFMB + vertical grip is just too good on rifles

[nimble robin]

I am mostly running with 6.5, vertical grip and sfmb as well nowadays

12x scope and laser

[rocky plover]

nice, not to say the suppressor option is bad, but I don't need any benefits with it and it just adds length to your weapon

[nimble robin]

VOID should add something like this for assault rifles:

https://www.aseutra.fi/en/product/dual556-mini-gen2/

[rocky plover]

yea or a huxwrx

[split flower]

It’s realistic though suppressors IRL are still load asf

[bitter mason]

Suppressors also dont "stress" suspects out as much so you can shoot a bit more before they become more aggressive

[nimble robin]

IRL suppressor is cutting down some noise, but the initial crack comes from bullet going supersonic after it leaves the barrel. Suppressor however makes way harder to decipher where the shot comes from compared to open barrel or muzzle brake. It is not whispering however, like in movies. Even with subsonic rounds.

[desert pike]

guys how do you S tier hunger strike when the suspects start shooting civvies as i breach the first room

[urban mural]

I did with lethal, wasn't running for an S, basically started from parking lot, made each team blow up both doors on the right side and gone up solo on the second floor. My AI teammates solved the situation on their own.

Suspect casualties happened ofc but no civilian casualties.

[rocky plover]

gotta be super fast, parking lot might help, you have 60s (30s on hard) before they start killing civvies, focus on back area, kitchen and upstairs

[floral peak]

Never was issue to me, I never knew that Hunger Strike was an active shooter mission till I Hard S ranked it, only then I learned about that server

[surreal pelican]

Afterdeck for me; high chance that fucker sa'heed or whoever will be there and capturing him asap will not trigger the active shooter timer

[surreal pelican]

I take parking lot, C2 and then rush with flash launchers

[surreal pelican]

Never thought I'd say this;

But I think even Lethal Ana on Hard with AI teammates is impossible

I even resorted to giving them shield + MK V AP but they still died

[rocky plover]

Ai's a headache xD

[surreal pelican]

I've given up

I don't even want to touch ana on standard. As much as I'd like to enjoy it, it's given me stroke

[rocky plover]

i dont even find the game fun with Ai tbh, much better solo or multi player

[surreal pelican]

The AI is workable in other missions but ana is just..

stroke sim with AI

[rocky plover]

i feel like im playing babysitter simulator in every mission with them

[surreal pelican]

I need the extra firepower but ana is the limit

[rocky plover]

i close a door, they open it, they block you when trying to cover them, they get in front of you... it's an endless shit show lol

[surreal pelican]

The only thing they do properly is.. chemlight here

[rocky plover]

exactly, they just make suspects more aggressive and stressed

[surreal pelican]

Ana is the new Greased Palms gentlemen

[surreal pelican]

Shit I had to like 50% solo the outside. Had to make them wait and stfu until we breach the two separate outside buildings in GP

[rocky plover]

i still think 3LT is harder though due to the layout of the map, ANA is cqb at least and I like cqb, but the bots just suck

[surreal pelican]

I can even see the diff. They are more jittery and hesitant upon first contact compared to when they suddenly see them from a mile away

[surreal pelican]

I like cqb too, if I wanted long range I'd play Helldivers 2 like what you sometimes see 😂

[surreal pelican]

At least 1 scumbag civilian only, don't need to worry about the others

[rocky plover]

true

[surreal pelican]

I only managed to S rank ana on standard

And it's by the grace of god that he's allowed me to do it

[vestal trout]

does using stab vest count as using armor? tryna do "the heat is on" achievement

[surreal pelican]

Yes

[vestal trout]

damn

[rocky plover]

i think so, even though it's 0% protection

[surreal pelican]

Helmet counts as armour too

[vestal trout]

ooooooooof

[surreal pelican]

So just go bare

[rocky plover]

i used the 9 slots no armor to be safe

[surreal pelican]

You still tryna hard s it?

I've given up ever since I got p.p.

[rocky plover]

funny how helmet counts as armor when it doesnt specify not to use a helmet

but it specifies it for off duty achievement xD

[surreal pelican]

Classic Beat Cop + Off Duty + Hanged Man achievement reqs

[rocky plover]

yea, i got very close, had everything secure, but i got overconfident and died to the easiest suspect ever lol

[surreal pelican]

The fucking flower man right

[rocky plover]

no, a guy hiding in the bathroom he was the last suspect

i had the flower man and the whole map secured pretty much

[surreal pelican]

One of my standard ana S runs that failed was:

All floors clear, only left flower room.

I went down to find the ammo cache before I activated jammer (was stupid couldn't find. This was one of my earlier runs. No ammo everything btw)

Then out of nowhere: MLO came, saw, and I die

[rocky plover]

jeez

[surreal pelican]

My AI was stacked up prepared to launch and clear on my go too

And the fact I even chemlighted every fuckin door and hallway to mark as clear.. 😭 then out of nowhere fishnet MLO just popped out when I was dry

[last dawn]

first time doing no good deed, are you supposed to enter the room in the arcade and air it out to save the civs inside, got 3 civ penalties because i thought it was scripted

[rocky plover]

yeah never think it's clear just cos you cleared it earlier, cqb 101, so either wedge all the entrances to avoid them accessing certain rooms or just clear it again thinking it#s still uncleared

[last dawn]

or was i too slow for the ai who took out 3 civs in 15 seconds

[surreal pelican]

I wedged everything too 😭

He came out of the mayor office area (the hidden room door)

[surreal pelican]

Nah civs in arcade die to gas scripted

No Good Deed has active shooter countdown

[last dawn]

oh alr thank you

[rocky plover]

damn

[surreal pelican]

[last dawn]

how short is it, i got 3 civs executed in 15 seconds

[rocky plover]

2m 30s

[last dawn]

alright thank you

[surreal pelican]

Hard mode is same timing right?

[rocky plover]

think so

[chilly thorn]

Im the exact opposite

I love seeing my plans go right and I hate shooting suspects so Im basically the target for that playstyle

[wide verge]

Same

[rocky plover]

then you havent met the right players in MP

[chilly thorn]

Yes but the thing about multiplayer is the game clearly isn't designed around it plus there IS no good multiplayer players that aren't your own friends

and I simply just love swat 4s gameplay loop so Im going to love the swat ai aspect

and another reason is that coop horror games simply dont work

[chilly swan]

yeah I love playing this game with my friends but after we complete an S rank it just becomes Insurgency coop with an arrest mechanic.

[rocky plover]

wdym not designed for MP lol, also plenty of good randoms in pubs, just havent met the right ones

[chilly thorn]

This games music, dialouge and suspect ai is balanced around singleplayer.

Most achievements are singleplayer only too

[rocky plover]

"horror" meh

[chilly thorn]

I mean this is a game thats fun because of the randomness and fear of the unknown

[rocky plover]

yea ofc

[chilly thorn]

If your checking corners hoping some guy doesn't dome you with a shotgun that is horror.

[rocky plover]

that's realism and tactical i'd say not horror lol

[chilly thorn]

Tension is a form of horror

[chilly swan]

tho at the same time as a fellow swat 4 enjoyer, ik we're a dying breed. Not many people wanna have to go through the process of giving several mandated hugs and words of affirmation before being allowed to shoot them (and if u shoot a suspect unlawfully you basically fail the whole thing haha)

[chilly thorn]

I honestly don't find S ranks fun...

I enjoy just shooting when I absolutely have too

I think S ranks kinda trivalize the gameplay loop, swat 4 had the same issue.

[chilly swan]

honestly same haha, its nice to play a game where you don't have to blast the ever-loving god out of anyone who happens to be opposing you

[rocky plover]

ye more realistic that way, S ranks is just an extra step for those who like a challenge and achievements, but it's not the realism mode

[chilly thorn]

This game doesn't have a Realism mode since its not supposed to really be realistic

[chilly swan]

but uhh yeah it gets tedious and a little silly with how little less lethal options we actually have in this game

[surreal pelican]

I haven't played public mp coz no mic (don't wanna talk likewise) + idk if I'll lag 😭

[chilly thorn]

I mean the only thing we are missing is swat 4s baton launcher... I miss that thing it was so funny.

[chilly swan]

yeah its moreso designed to capture the feeling of being a swat officer who needs to practice endlessly to get the right result

[rocky plover]

understandable

[surreal pelican]

Family's around too lol

[chilly swan]

i miss gerard

[chilly thorn]

I honestly wouldn't even call RoN a Tactical shooter, Its more of an Immersive sim.

But to be fair I don't really consider tactical shooter a real genre since its such a broad term

[surreal pelican]

I play game if fun

I only bring ai for more throwables and tacticals and firepower

[chilly thorn]

play how you want as long as you having fun whos to judge

[surreal pelican]

Someday.. someday brother, someday..

[chilly swan]

judge?

[twilit halo]

What's the best load out for getting s ranks

[surreal pelican]

Flash launcher all the way

[chilly swan]

flashbang grenade launcher on god

[surreal pelican]

2x negotiators and pacifiers (if commander mode)

[twilit halo]

How much ammo

[chilly swan]

ALL THE AMMO

[chilly thorn]

They are all good

just pick what you like

[surreal pelican]

All; ai doesn't need any slots (coz they start off with 6 rounds preloaded( so tgive them more wedges and throwables

[boreal fossil]

is there any word on when they'll release the next OST for the DLC maps?

[chilly swan]

day 10 of hearing "why would they leave the cctv's unattended?"

[chilly thorn]

No not yet, but you can find them on youtube

[chilly swan]

I'm awaiting this too with eager anticipation

[chilly thorn]

god this games OST is SOO FUCKING GOOD

Stolen valor is currently still my fave

[chilly swan]

i don't know if I'm connecting dots out of nothing, but the violin note at the beginning of ANA's OST sounds like the beginning of Bach Air, the song they used for their original reveal trailer

[chilly thorn]

AnA has so many musical references. Such as a motif from the original main menu theme, and the american anthem subtly playing when you do the terrorist ending

[boreal fossil]

really want the new stuff on spotify 😭

[surreal pelican]

I've never heard the American anthem playing after I detonated the bombs.

Maybe I was too fast by immediately clicking end mission

[chilly thorn]

Want me to send the audio clip to you?

[chilly swan]

this is why no matter how many times I have to hear the swat team dying at the beginning of the level, I will always love the design around the level

[surreal pelican]

Sure

Is it the whole anthem

[twilit halo]

Should ai teammates have the flash launcher

[chilly thorn]

no just a hint I sent it

[last dawn]

does all gods burn have active shooter countdown

asking incase i need to rush yet defuse traps

[echo trail]

Yes
They'll kill suspects otherwise

[sharp raven]

What’s the best AR in the game? Like, most damage and least recoil

@sharp trout hop on RoN on Saturday night

[stoic thistle]

I feel like I've gotten worse with the beanbag shotgun and better with pepperballs.

[tawdry plover]

if one of my officers are incapacitated does that ruin the hermit?

[jolly verge]

If 1-3 - yes, if all 4 from a single mission - no

[tawdry plover]

so if only 1 is incap and the rest are fine then it voids it?

[jolly verge]

Yes

[sharp gazelle]

does anyone know if the "my eyes burn" achievemnt is possible?

i know that theres issues with it

it still unfixed?

[short lichen]

Guys how many suspect there are in Valley Of Dolls i'm trying to do S rank solo but they're too many

[sharp gazelle]

i think it depends what difficulty

hard i think around 19???

[short lichen]

Now i'm trying to do casual, standard i can do lime 85% but i die always at the last and the number always change

Sometimes is 14 other times 17

[urban mural]

Leave the basement for last.

[short lichen]

Idk i only know that this mission is a pain in the ass

[sharp trout]

Kk

[short lichen]

Bro i always hate the area of the pool because the one of the first floor when you arrest one of them another is coming outside like a loop

[urban mural]

Use door wedges to avoid flanking.

[short lichen]

How many door wedges do you think i need to put ib my inv?

[floral peak]

The moment i turn away for ONE SECOND, mf SWAT just got one tapped

[short lichen]

@urban mural i did it but in casual

[icy wraith]

Care to elaborate a little? I'm pretty satisfied with how it turned out, obviously, but if you have points I consider valid, I might take a look into absorbing them (to the best of my abilities, ofc)

[maiden sparrow]

Is there an ammo resupply on A New America?

[floral peak]

No, on all my runs i didnt find one

[maiden sparrow]

Ahhh

[elder coyote]

Why do i keep failing missions whenever i shoot every non civ, surrendering or not

[floral peak]

Some ppl say thats it near the door to courtroom at floor 22, but when i was there, no ammo was on spot

[eternal grove]

Guys what if RoN had like a better hand to hand combat system. I’m not saying like full on fights, but if you don’t have your gun equipped but instead have like idk C2, wedge, something that won’t do damage but a suspect runs close enough to you, you just hit them with the object and they get stunned for maybe 2/3 seconds

I know there is i think b or v for pc but cmon thats too far from aswd for me and i dont know if it works for things that aren’t firearms. This is in vengeance of a mission i died in 😖💔

[chilly swan]

wouldn't mind be able to punch an mlo member in the throat if I'm out of ammo tbh

use of force be damned

[eternal grove]

Yeah. I think I would’ve lived if the rifle was on a sling, like if I’m just grabbing a wedge for a second I don’t need to put the rifle completely away

[chilly swan]

oh right don't forget you can rebind melee as well

[jagged quartz]

If you run of of ammo my tactic is to simply derobe and charge towards the enemy maintaining solid eye contact

[chilly swan]

keyboard > interaction

[chilly swan]

exactly, nobody wants to fight a naked guy

[eternal grove]

I know swat members have a kit on so not exactly the same mobility but

[eternal grove]

It’s weird if you stop, but if you don’t and make eye contact then theyre the weird one

[jagged quartz]

I mean if they make eye contact they're practically asking for it. With all the times the mlo has fucked me over they deserve it at least once

[eternal grove]

Make sure to log that on their record for when their in prison, “subject maintained eye contact with Officer Johnson with his Johnson and he did not look away”

[eternal grove]

That new battle rifle they added I love it

[jagged quartz]

I had a battle rifle long before that 😉

[eternal grove]

Look at the clip I sent in media

I know it’s really my fault for sending my team in and leaving me alone by myself but cmonnn wish I could’ve hit the dude with the wedge

[jagged quartz]

Yes they really do like to be arseholes at times

[eternal grove]

I don’t expect the devs to add a whole system but if they did it’d be a pretty cool detail

[jagged quartz]

And I'm not the biggest fan of getting fucked over by brolic armoured mlo agents

Latinas on the other hand....

[eternal grove]

Where’s this conversation heading??

[jagged quartz]

Possible answers for the great schism of 1054

[surreal pelican]

Wtf my AI refuses to breach doorways and stuff on ana when one of their teammate dies

[eternal drum]

they bug out so insanely easy. give them a move here command and try again

[manic sun]

Finally got The Hermit

[eternal drum]

congrats!

[manic sun]

The Thugnificant watch dev watch is gloriously tacky and should be a free flashbang grenade

[arctic ivy]

Why my game crash when I try and put a different outfit on my squad mates

Specifically a preset outfit

[urban mural]

You can distribute between your AI teammates and between yourself.

[short lichen]

I don't play commander mode i play alone or w some friends

[rich quartz]

What do you guys think of the current swat ai? Besides them tossing flashbangs ar your feet this update (for some reason)

[urban mural]

They need to improve. The stupid I need you to move is so dumb too when they can just turn around the player.

[rich quartz]

Just make them non clip able

[rich quartz]

I also feel like they should clear rooms a bit better? If that makes sense

[eternal drum]

id take enemy ai over swat ai. at least the enemy ai is pretty consistent

swat ai cant even go through doors, despite having said bug be in 1.4's patch notes

[surreal pelican]

Me and my guys all got smoked on ana standard lethal run 😂

2 of them died, 1 civ got caught in the crossfire

Still amazed at how the M32A1 flash launcher got me the standard S rank for ana

[bronze elm]

I CANNOT WAIT TO PLAY READY OR NOT BOILING POINT WHICH I SPENT A TOTAL OF 70 DOLLARS ON

IVE BEEN STUCK ON NEW AMERICA SINCE BEFORE MY HEART TRANSPLANT IM AT HOME NOW

[lunar blade]

well in the swat AI's defense, in pre 1.0 it was just the suspect AI that was too good, but now they just suck.

[uncut cliff]

I find it odd that they just stand still if they start taking fire. I’ve had so many games where I tell them to stack up by a door or something, then a suspect starts shooting and the swat ai will not care and just tank the bullets until they die

[woven river]

What mode is targeted manipulation achievable?

could not get it on multi

does it work on quickplay single or does it have to be operations?

[uncut cliff]

yeah i got it in quickplay

[eternal drum]

required in singleplayer modes

[outer lagoon]

Has anyone's progress and setup been lost?

[cursive minnow]

Mine hasn’t been, but it happens to plenty of other people. No, there’s no getting it back if you don’t have manual backups.

[urban mural]

And when you say to search and secure and see one of your guys go and explore the entire map when you meant to secure the evidence and and people in the room you are in.

[tiny harbor]

Question what’s y’all favorite missions and least favorite

My personal favorite missions are
Buy cheap buy twice
Sins of the father
Carriers of the vine
Isles of march
Hunger strike
Rust belt
Lawmaker
Leviathan
3 letter triad
All gods burn
A new America

Now my least favorite maps
Elephant I hate this mission with a passion
Neon tomb this mission is a nightmare
Valley of the dolls cause of the lore and I like putting two in the dad head

Mirage at sea this mission is 💩
Dorms hate this mission
Narcos mission is diabolical af
Stolen valor 🖕
Greased plams no need to explain on this hell hole of a mission
Lethal obsession cool lore but f that mission

[inland patio]

imagine if the ron swat raided starkweather's mansion from manhunt

[sleek dome]

Damn... Ironmode challenge for that watch is just Ragebait at this point.

[eternal drum]

you can play ironmode in casual if that helps B))))

you can get the watch, just no achievement

[sleek dome]

So i havs to play Standard?

For the achievement ofc

[eternal drum]

oh yeah Standard is required for hte achievement

[sleek dome]

Well i mean, now i kinda need YT Guide and setups lmao. I heard swat ai mentality won't be affected if you do S

[silk spear]

Favs:

1. All Gods Burn, Bank Heist 🙂
2. Ides of March, I just like the map layout.

Dislike:

1. Greased Palms, waaay too open and gangsters somehow have NAVY SEALS aim.
2. 3 Letter Triad, lots of nooks,corners and openness.

[silk spear]

Except for elephent but yeah. You can either just rerun the 1st mission S-ranked to get cops stress levels down or just S-Rank everything.

[turbid dragon]

My favorite is..
Buy Cheap, Buy Twice,
Rust Belt,
End of the earth!

And my least favorite has to be Elephant.. MAN I hate that mission.

[silk spear]

imo it's easier to just spam S-rank the gas station than to try to S-Rank everything in the ironman run.

[tiny harbor]

I agree f that mission elephant

[tiny harbor]

https://tenor.com/view/mujikcboro-seriymujik-gif-24361533

You mentioned buy cheap buy twice

[tiny harbor]

Yes same here love all gods burn crazy mission tho everyone getting shot

[silk spear]

I play Payday 2's Razormind and breach on the beat drop. Great vibes.

[turbid dragon]

It is a pretty good mission, I always play it to beat my time record!

[tiny harbor]

Here’s your 👑

[cerulean sandal]

What are yall favorite dlcs?

[tiny harbor]

I’m actually surprised I managed to s rank that mission with randoms in hard mode

[tiny harbor]

Probably boiling point and dark waters

[sleek dome]

You'd have to be a Psychopath being able to do S rank in every in Ironman mode. Even ANA Hard solo

[cerulean sandal]

Probably same,l

[tiny harbor]

Yup home invasion is alright cause of lawmaker but god I hate dorms and narcos f those missions

[cerulean sandal]

Home invasion is kinda mid

[tiny harbor]

I managed to s rank every mission on Ironman mode standard tho

[tiny harbor]

Yea only good mission is lawmaker

[silk spear]

Well you only need to do Base missions for Ironman but a lot of people prefer the s-rank everything method, especially these days with the flash launcher.

[cerulean sandal]

Can you still leave before the game saves after you die to keep ur ironman save?

[tiny harbor]

Yup with the armor trait and health one you be set

[tiny harbor]

Yea

[silk spear]

You run the risk of launching a suspect weapon out of the map if you give everyone launchers but you'll be able to instant down everyone so you'll get A+ at the very least.

[tiny harbor]

It’s a cheese for it

[cerulean sandal]

Its preaty usefull if ur teammates die when getting the gold watch

[tiny harbor]

Yup

[silk spear]

Alt+F4, my beloved. ❣️

[cerulean sandal]

I play on console =/

[tiny harbor]

But also you can’t let them leave cause of the mental state either

[cerulean sandal]

I didn't know that

[silk spear]

Home Button+Close/Quit game, your beloved. 💗

[cerulean sandal]

Yeah Ik

[tiny harbor]

Just close the app the moment you or your teammates die

I didn’t have to do the cheese cause of my best friend the flash bang gl

[cerulean sandal]

You can also close it when the game says delet your save

[cerulean sandal]

Can you get the badge on multi-player?

[tranquil imp]

can anyone give me a loadout build mine sucks

[tiny harbor]

I’m pretty sure but I recommend doing it on solo mode

Cause of your teammates traits

[cerulean sandal]

But the golden watch goatta be in commander?

[tiny harbor]

Those will help you out

[silk spear]

Me, doing ironman before the console update:

[tiny harbor]

Here’s your 👑

[cerulean sandal]

What else did they add on the console update?

[silk spear]

You mean Ironman achievment? Cause no. That's solo only. OP meant best friend as in saying their weapon is their bestie.

[cerulean sandal]

Ohhhh

[sleek dome]

I absolutely love Flash grenade launcher

[silk spear]

Primary Flashbang rotary grenade launcher which is basically the legal cheat weapon for instant stuns. MK-V aka Deagle, and the pepperball pistol off the top my head.

[sleek dome]

Have a loadout of 12 grenade launcher ammo + 3 flash i think and 1 taser

[silk spear]

Depends on what role you like to fill in your multiplayer/swat ai team really man.

[cerulean sandal]

So if u want free ironman u just gotta use flashbang luncher

[last dawn]

i think they should add skeletonized variants of the heavy armor

[tiny harbor]

The best traits for Ironman mode is armorer Nutritionist Intimidator Pacifier or Negotiator if you want to replace pacifier

[cerulean sandal]

Do they actually matter that much?

[silk spear]

example: I typically am SWAT Lead in multiplayer and hang back. Do the same in Solo play which is my primary play.

Primary: Shotgun or Flashnade launcher depending on if I'm playing on PC or my steamdeck.
Secondary: whatever
LongTactical: Mirror Gun, knowing is 1/2 the battle. ♫~G.I JOE~♫
and 2 slots of wedges for map control (1 slot of Wedge gives you 2 wedges)

[tiny harbor]

Yes I managed to s rank the hospital mission with two Negotiator and Intimidator on commander mode mind you I was having trouble with that mission

[cerulean sandal]

Dang

[tiny harbor]

Intimidator is peak cause if you trying to s rank every mission the suspects will get scared the moment they see you

Not all tho

[cerulean sandal]

Does the effect stack if you get 4 of em?

[deep patio]

Leviathan is a great mission tbh

[tiny harbor]

Cause some have high morale so they will be stubborn af and shoot you

[silk spear]

Armorer and Nutritionist absofckinglutely cause that's giving you and team damage reduction and extra HP.

Intimidator is mid if suspects are already on alert for you so it's only useful for as long as you're able to "stealth" through.

Negotiator only works on the first shout for compliance but since SWAT A.I ALWAYS yell as soon as they see someone anyways, better to have it than not.

Pacifier is god tier for S-ranks as that makes all NL basically instant down for 2 of em.

[silk spear]

Yes but diminshing returns pass 2.

[tiny harbor]

Some traits do some don’t

[silk spear]

So good general setup:
Lethal: Armor, Nutitionist, 2 Veteren
S-Rank: 2 Pacfier, 2 Negotiator.

[cerulean sandal]

Noted

[tiny harbor]

Like the nutritionist one dose

[cerulean sandal]

Okie

[hardy tendon]

I’m here to put my vote in for the kicker trait of the entire team being able to one shot any door

[cerulean sandal]

I think imma head out to actually play the game

[silk spear]

I hate to say it, but uh.....intimidator did nothing for you on Relapse. Those guys are already in an alert state so intimidator had no effect.

On the brightside that meant Negotiator did hella work.

[cerulean sandal]

So he did it pure skill

[silk spear]

And a really good yelling voice yes 😄

[tiny harbor]

Really they fell to floor the moment they saw me unless it was Negotiator

[fathom torrent]

So we ready to talk about adding heists and an option to be on the bad side or not

[glass heart]

well that hasnt really been seen since swat 2

we would have to be some sort of tactical organization if we play as OPFOR

[fathom torrent]

ReadyOrNot X Payday

[cerulean sandal]

I dont think so bc it will go against everything the game stands for

But like a randomly generated police raid could be nice

[fathom torrent]

I mean would be sick tho 🤷

[glass heart]

you have payday 2 for that though, with a lot more modding than this game will ever get

[tiny harbor]

Wish we console players get mod support I would love to see the modded maps 😭😭😭😭😭

[glass heart]

and starbreeze isnt there to ruin anything else anymore

[cerulean sandal]

We dont get it bc of the ps guys not bc of RoN

[fathom torrent]

Idk the way Ron feels and plays is way more engaging than the arcade payday feel

[cerulean sandal]

You cant download shit on ps5

Thats not from the store

I managed to get to google after some bugs whit the psn network status and it still dint letme download anything from it

[fathom torrent]

A sign to get a pc ?

[tiny harbor]

I know but what if void did something like Bethesda dose with elder scrolls and fallout

[deep patio]

i mean yeah that makes sense you couldn't do anything

[cerulean sandal]

Im saving for one but im broke

[deep patio]

but that's why i got RoN on PC after getting it on ps5

[tiny harbor]

I got a steam deck but I don’t know how well the game works on it

[fathom torrent]

No lol

[cerulean sandal]

On steam deck you should be abel to get mods

[fathom torrent]

Cant imagine this game runs atall well on any handheld

[silk spear]

For sure Negotiator. Intemidator works off of "stress", which dictates the suspects fight/flight responses, but on Elephent, Neon Tomb, & Relpase, the suspects are already at max stress which means they do not get affected by Intemidator as soon as they hear noise. So maybe for the first 1-3 guys if they were isolated but the rest definetly not.

Negotiator works off their "Morale" which dictates the surrender chance. Even tho the increased chance only works for the first yell the suspects hear, since the SWAT AI always yells anyways, better to have it than not.

Pacifer is the best out of the 5 S-ranking traits (we don't talk about Breacher/Riot Control) because the increased surrender chance works off EVERY time the suspect gets stunned by equipment (melee doesn't count :<).

[cerulean sandal]

Im not reading that just came back from school

[silk spear]

Game works pretty well. I only got minor frame drops from 30 FPS to like 25 FPS occasionly on ANA but that's cause that map is waaaaay to detailed.

[silk spear]

Well good thing I wasn't replying to you in the first place 🙂

[deep patio]

It is Steam Deck Verified tho

[fathom torrent]

Aint this like 18+?

[cerulean sandal]

Idk

[silk spear]

Collage exists.

[tiny harbor]

Perfect

[fathom torrent]

Depends college here is like 16-18

[cerulean sandal]

Here where?

[silk spear]

Fair point.

[tiny harbor]

I see

[silk spear]

Anyways. @tiny harbor I can send you the googlesheets that has all the background data of how everything in the game works if you want. Really useful stuff.

[tiny harbor]

Sure I save it so I get it on steam later on

[cerulean sandal]

Do you get wepons from dlcs?

[tiny harbor]

No they are free

[shadow drum]

Hey Guys. I just started playing with my little brother and he’s already beat all the main game missions probably on standard or easy. I really want to play on hard because it’s the most rewarding to me but everytime we begin failing a new mission my bro starts begging me to lower the difficulty. I try to convince him that would ruin the experience for me but he’s very persistent lol. What should I do?

[cerulean sandal]

Ty

[cerulean sandal]

Force him to play 1 mision on hard so he can fell the reward after beating it

[tiny harbor]

Tell him that judge didn’t have difficulty options when he went in

[cerulean sandal]

And maybe he will want to paly more of them

[shadow drum]

We have won a few on hard and I think he has enjoyed it but still he always begs to lower difficulty if we fail just a few times.

[deep patio]

play pistol only and run standard and let him use whatever gun he wants
that way the game is harder for you but he doesn't get a 360 no scope from some random suspect

[cerulean sandal]

Thats a good idea

[tiny harbor]

My advice is play on standard mode first then let him get more comfortable with the game

[shadow drum]

That would be cool later but this is my first play through. I’d prefer the raw experience…

[pliant magnet]

do officer special abilities stack in commander mode?

[tiny harbor]

Some do

Like the heath one

[pliant magnet]

S.B.A.G.S and armourer? Is there a list as to which stack

[shadow drum]

He’s already played way more than I have. I fear he’s just addicted to the easy mode in games. How do I ween him off the easy modes lol…

[deep patio]

you can't really do that, some people just like it

[tiny harbor]

I believe on the wiki it tells you

[karmic shale]

y'all know how like the gun go pew pew and then some random guy starts yelling at u for no reason

[cerulean sandal]

The only thing you can do is give him the challenge and he may like it but otherwise he may just only care about the story or the missions and not the dificulty

[karmic shale]

why does that keep happening,,

[tiny harbor]

I know the amorer one stacks and the veteran one ( I think)

[deep patio]

are you a war criminal ?

[tiny harbor]

Tell him to play on standard mode or else toc won’t give him a judge body pillow if that’s the case

[karmic shale]

nooo,,,

[shadow drum]

He’d probably be happy with standard after we’ve been doing hard.

I just really don’t want to lower the difficulty. I want to play with him but I like this game enough I don’t want to water down my experience either…

[tiny harbor]

I have to admit hard mode is ruthless af especially that school mission f that mission worst one in the game imo

[chilly dock]

Hey guys whats the best Optic for the MP7?

[tiny harbor]

Another advice is use the flashbang G L

[shadow drum]

Yeah I expect them to get really bad I’m only about 10 missions in so far. Twisted nerve has been the absolute worst so far.

[shadow drum]

Yeah we started bringing that

[silk spear]

Start attempting Hard mode solo/swat ai. Your bro just wants to enjoy playing the game with you and you're trying to force him to not enjoy the game

[tiny harbor]

I feel you on that mission them meth heads really got superpowers with them knives 💀💀💀💀💀😭😭😭😭

[shadow drum]

It kinda goes both ways I don’t think I’ll enjoy the game very much on the lower difficulties and I haven’t played all the missions yet where he has.

[silk spear]

Again, do it solo/with swat a.i if you want to do it on Hard and brother ultimately does not.

[tiny harbor]

All I can say is good luck on greased palms and neon tomb

[shadow drum]

Thanks hehe

[tiny harbor]

And the school one on hard that one gave me the most trouble I actually had to find randoms to finish it

[tawdry plover]

if one of my officers resign AFTER hide and seek do i still get the hermit achievement?

[tiny harbor]

I’m still wondering who’s idea at void hq was it to put damn door traps on a timed mission with bombs and highly stressed psychopaths

[tiny harbor]

No

[shadow drum]

Yeah I’m trying to do the commander mode. But he wants to jump around to a bunch of missions I haven’t done yet on lower difficulty but that feels like spoiling the game for me… that’s all. So what’s more important playing with bro or getting to enjoy the game?

[tiny harbor]

You have to keep em mentally stable

[chilly dock]

What does PDW mean? And what does it stand for and why is it called that?

[silk spear]

There's no real intended order of the missions cause even the default mission order is out of time sync

[tiny harbor]

My advice for that one is when they start getting stressed out do the first mission on the easy difficulty and s rank it it will get them back at green mental health

[silk spear]

@shadow drum 2 of the last 1/3 of base game missions technically come right after the first mission, but balance wise for difficulty scaling that would be ass so they put it later

[tiny harbor]

Play by yourself plus on commander mode you can use your ai traits

To help you get through hard mode

[silk spear]

So if your brother ultimately refuses to do them in default order after you discuss it like human beings, then play by yourself. @shadow drum for your own fun sakes.

[tiny harbor]

I believe isle of march is on the same day as sins of the fathers or a day later

[shadow drum]

Ok thanks Guys. Maybe I’ll try to twist his arm some more or maybe sweeten the deal somehow lol.

[tiny harbor]

Toc would be proud of you

[silk spear]

technically a day later but cause Sins is after midnight or something. But I was referring to NeonTomb and Relapse

[tiny harbor]

Ah yes

And think you come again is before neon tomb I believe

[hoary fox]

guys do you know how to make "By the book" achievement? I didn't used any weapons, tactical equipment, grenades ect. and only my bots were doing the work, but still didn't get the achievement

i tried it again but still the same result

[winter timber]

ive just completed votd and it traumatised me

[wooden blade]

Will we ever get the chance to revert the Police Station back to previous versions? Loved the ambience for Dark Waters but Boiling Point station ambience is kinda mid IMO

[tiny harbor]

I hate that mission cause of the lore but love it cause when I go in solo no ai i catch voll ass and put a bullet on his head just for fun

And same for the spider mission and the gooner mission

[winter timber]

did you notice the bookshelves,barrels in the basement

[tiny harbor]

Most definitely

[winter timber]

the poor children and families voll ruined

[tiny harbor]

On the uncensored version the big doll picture was originally his own daughter

And trust me it had pretty nasty writing on the wall

[winter timber]

i wanna put a bullet in vol's skull

[wooden blade]

and people will STILL complain that cops in RoN are never portrayed negatively, sorry we're catching kid diddlers

[tiny harbor]

Compared to what’s on current version now

[wooden blade]

pretty sure it's still her brother? just played it

[tiny harbor]

She had a brother? I thought voll only had a daughter not a son

[wooden blade]

oh I referred to u as brother my bad gang

[tiny harbor]

Ohhhhh

[winter timber]

can i kos everyone in the votd mission

[tiny harbor]

Yes it’s still her but in a different way of showing it

The original was way worse

[tiny harbor]

Yea same here heck even the civilians too fuck it nobody is safe

[winter timber]

kill everyone !!!! No Mercy

[tiny harbor]

Except for the daughter she cool

She probably the only good person in the entire game

[winter timber]

yi wanna kill some pricks with me ?

[tiny harbor]

I’m not on sadly

But I’m down for it sometime

[winter timber]

Its okie no worries fren

[tiny harbor]

Voll is probably the worst person in the game heck even the mlo wouldn’t do something like that

[toxic swallow]

what's the difference between full armor coverage and front/back

[inner jewel]

You get side coverage aswell with full armor coverage (i think)

[acoustic solar]

on relapse rn where are the last dudes bruh ive arrested 20 dudes already and disabled the bombs and got the vip

[sly nest]

At first i thought the .50 was a joke
But after one run attempt on ANA on hard... it might be the play.
Pretty consistent and doesn't catch on many walls like the Battle Rifles do

[silk spear]

Bathrooms/Supply closets. Personal experience I'm just cursed and the last civ I miss is always in a bathroom or closet

[acoustic solar]

yeah it turned out i hadnt found the morgue yet

[open vault]

@tawdry plover impressive work on the ironman mode completion

[vocal wing]

RoN PlayStation official news tab just dropped a short trailer showing off the flashlight/laser combo. They put the broken MAULT beam in the trailer

[molten wasp]

Ha 😆

Chat agree with me on this one, should void patch making the swat team have good reaction time and keep the suspect count same as standard but still keep the difficulty on hard

[marsh lark]

SWAT AI was great before, however the problem was that they were too good.

[umbral gorge]

Does anyone know if all main objectives has to be successfully completed for programmed psychosis? Wanna know this before attempting it.

[molten wasp]

So It was great before and shit after?

[marsh lark]

Before you did not even have to do anything other than command the SWAT AI

They had way faster reaction time than suspects, and instantly domed them in the head

You could complete a mission with them only being injured and you really did not have to do much

Should it go back to what it was? No.
Should they be improved? Yes.

[flat pawn]

Throw back to an iron man run on Volls house where a glitch left me in a permanent bleed effect and no gun so I just had the swat buddies breach and bang everything and it was a cakewalk

[floral peak]

So basically current MLO ai

[cedar walrus]

Hey @muted wedge where did you get that hazmat suit you posted a screenshot off?

Just curious, it looks really cool

[wide sand]

Hi guys, i recently started playing Ready Or Not and upon completing Boiling Point DLC i feel like the game has come to its logical ending.

But is that so? Is the game never getting any new DLCs? If anyone know any official info on that please tell me, thank you

[marsh lark]

https://www.nexusmods.com/readyornot/mods/6842

[cedar walrus]

Oh fuck yeah