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[chilly thorn]

This kinda goes hard tho I suppose

[somber monolith]

because if so my judge is racist

[chilly thorn]

I mean… no?

[desert vapor]

(Speaking Arabic)

[stoic jackal]

I specifically shoot The Walking Charcoal

[echo frigate]

I like to think Judge isn’t monitored because some sketchy conspiracy but because they’re genuinely concerned he’s a threat to the general public

[desert vapor]

Judge would never hurt a single soul 🥺

[stoic thistle]

I think that whoever is experimenting on him is just having him operate on the bare minimum, like a cellphone on power saving mode.

[somber monolith]

on lethal runs i wait on the stairs and say "osama, osama" like in zero darky thirty

[echo frigate]

He’s a cutie patootie

[chilly thorn]

I mean he is, the usia can probably convince him to do a mass shooting for them.

[echo frigate]

There’s no convincing, he’d do it anyway

[somber monolith]

THATS WHAT TARGETED MANIPULATION MEANS

[desert vapor]

I'm not gay bit id give him a kiss to make him feel better

[chilly thorn]

He just got it

[somber monolith]

no

i've been preaching this point to people who think judge would never do this

[stoic jackal]

And TOC disagrees and says

“We no longer believe you’re team lead is acting in good faith lethal force against them is authorised”

[somber monolith]

judge would do it if the programming told him to its not a matter of choice or defiance its conditioning and manipulation he cant control

[chilly thorn]

Targeted manipulation - Targeted Manipulation Program which is the Ready or not in-universe equal to MK ultra aka the Mariposa Experiment. So technically judge is the third cohort of the MLO

[desert vapor]

Who's that?

[echo frigate]

What if the reason why Judge comes back even if he dies is they got a bunch of clones in the back (but yeah judge deserves a kiss on the cheek)

[twilit halo]

Do you guys think the ragdoll needs improvement in the game everytime you shoot a suspect they fall the same movement everytime makes it look scripted and unrealistic

[stoic thistle]

So the MLO mention 7 towers right?

[desert vapor]

Judge just fights his way out of the afterlife

[somber monolith]

judge does not want a kiss on the cheek, he wants to be able to get one night of rest without los suenos falling into disarray

[stoic jackal]

Uhhhhh TOC. I dunno

[chilly thorn]

Yeah

[echo frigate]

He would do that

[somber monolith]

not necessarily

[echo frigate]

He’s the type of person to do that

[chilly thorn]

I don’t know what the towers mean but it could be the number of buildings they rigged

[chilly thorn]

Ragdolls return

[somber monolith]

iirc when you hit the counter frequency toc tells you its not just the court but that several buildings in the surrounding area have been rigged

[stoic jackal]

SHEEP BAAAAAAAAAAAH

[twilit halo]

Like it would be a nice improvement if the game improved the ragdoll because headshots they all fall down in the same move

[stoic thistle]

We only clear 4 in the game. Clemente hotel, Cordova building, unity trust bank, and the left behind's tower.

[chilly thorn]

Why doesn’t judge kiss the suspect after arresting them and say make love not war

[twilit halo]

Instead of random

[echo frigate]

Then they say “GET THE HELL OUT!”

[somber monolith]

not specifying how many but if you fail to disarm him (or give in to your targeted manipulation) you see several buildings crumble

[stoic jackal]

He remembers Elizabeth might come back to him some day

[stoic thistle]

Doesn't only 1 collapse if it's set off?

[desert vapor]

Judge prefers war

[chilly thorn]

Elizabeth dead as hell let’s be fr

[somber monolith]

no judge doesnt prefer war, he prefers justice

[desert vapor]

I think it's okay. Tho more variety couldn't hurt

[chilly thorn]

Judge describes the divorce as her and his kids just “disappearing one day” oh I wonder what the usia did to them lol

[stoic jackal]

He doesn’t know any better 😢

[echo frigate]

I still haven’t even got past the damn main lobby of the 4th floor, don’t spoil too much lore

[stoic jackal]

Judge just thought they went out for vacation a long vacation

[somber monolith]

judge never had a wife, it was all apart of the programming

[echo frigate]

Evil staircase

[somber monolith]

flash bangs behind and infront of you

[desert vapor]

Begin exercise

[echo frigate]

My dumb ass ai teammates keep flashing the wall so it just bounces back

[stoic thistle]

The mayor's office can help.

[somber monolith]

YOU use the flashbang

[pseudo hull]

launcher our savior

[chilly thorn]

A new America is probably one of the most malicious levels I’ve ever played in the game everytime I play it I find a new layer of
Bullshit and I love it

[somber monolith]

for some reason i can never get my ai to flash anything i ask them to

[stoic jackal]

“Dynamic Movement move and clear”

[stoic thistle]

It's so dependent on luck.

[pseudo hull]

its actually disturbing that they can tell when you're looking at them

[somber monolith]

cams

[desert vapor]

David?

[somber monolith]

they have access to cameras

[chilly thorn]

Dude yesterday I had an MLO member shoot the camera I was looking through I kid you fucking not

[pseudo hull]

you can look through the cameras?

[somber monolith]

wow

[desert vapor]

Kill the power to disable cams for a while

[echo frigate]

I tried that on my last run before I went to bed, but I triggered the alarm on the way to the the council chamber so 2 of my teammates got shot in the dome

[somber monolith]

yes

[chilly thorn]

They even shoot fire extinguishers when they run away to blind you

[pseudo hull]

is it in the team view thing

[stoic thistle]

Are they omnipotent?

[chilly thorn]

Yeah you have to rewire it

[somber monolith]

if your jsut looking to do reg equip your whole team with flash launchers and profit

[desert vapor]

Something like that

[pseudo hull]

i remember mirrorgunning one of them and they walked up to the door and hanged by the side

[chilly thorn]

Honesty with the slight occult edge to ready or not I wouldn’t be suprised if the MLO just had super natural powers

[somber monolith]

i can literally breeze by reg ana with how much trials and tribulations i had to get to psychosis

[echo frigate]

Any other tips

[stoic thistle]

Nah, they were just lobotimized and forced to read Siege, alongside Ronald Reagan's speeches.

[somber monolith]

free lean everything, turn on nods to see sensors, deliberately trip them and hold angle, flash when the door opens, listen for flashbangs or doors opening around you (means your being counter breached) use light to trigger them (will make them become audible and possibly investigate the light (move towards you)

[chilly thorn]

I still can’t believe that FISA hasn’t released the Spider files

[somber monolith]

the voll files

(its because fisa is in them)

[chilly thorn]

(Senator Fremont is in them)

[stoic thistle]

President Fremont is in the Voll files.

[somber monolith]

@echo frigate good luck

[chilly thorn]

Cordova family seem to have ties to the spider

[echo frigate]

Thanks, I’ll need to use the nods trick, saw someone talk about it on Reddit but not till o quite and went to bed

[chilly thorn]

On hide and seek for S ranking you can get a painting evidence depicting Don Alfonso Cordovas voyage

It seems to be some importance to them

[somber monolith]

yea they have IR sensors all over the place its the most common reason we get counter breached

[echo frigate]

That was my downfall on my last run

Triggered it near the council room

[chilly thorn]

Hey tip even if you don’t have the security doors unlocked you can just tell the swat ai to lock pick it and it some how works

[echo frigate]

That’s what I’ve been doing

[somber monolith]

alright with my wisdom bestowed and nearly an hour thoroughly spent i bid you all a due as i must retire to my sleeping quarters

[chilly thorn]

Make sure to use the scrambler or the MLO are gonna scramble the streets of LS

[somber monolith]

oh wait

[chilly thorn]

Also the governor also dies right they blew up his car

[somber monolith]

one last thing when you get to the third floor, door cam or just peek into

• City Council
• Press Room
• Briefing room to the left of city council

when you locate the device clear the floor your on and clear the floor above you then when all is set and you've got just the courtroom left and the two doors on either side of it go back down and trigger it

[stoic thistle]

So, the MLO purged the Mayor and the Governor.

[echo frigate]

I’ve been peaking and mirroring every single door

I’m not taking any risks on this damn mission

[somber monolith]

specifically those ones, when you locate the room with the device make sure you dont go in it

[chilly thorn]

They also killed the judge and a bunch of officials, and if we count the pier attack they killed the president of the LSPD and the Chief of the fire departments

[neat nexus]

have any of u guys get the "my eyes, it burns" achievements? any suggestion on where I should do it?

[somber monolith]

impossible

[stoic thistle]

Are they trying to plunge California into anarchy?

[chilly thorn]

Yeah that’s their goal they are trying to rebuild America

[echo frigate]

Nah I think they might be throwing judge a surprise birthday party

[chilly thorn]

Suprise!!!!

[stoic thistle]

If the USIA is puppeteering them, then blowing up a skyscraper in Los Suenos would be the perfect way to manufacture consent for a totalitarian takeover.

But that's only if the green gloves guy is lying.

[echo frigate]

Would yall rather live in Los suenos or night city

[old idol]

Both sound really shitty but I think Night City might be a little better if you're a corpo since no one in LS is safe

[chilly thorn]

The USIA and MLO do not work with each other, The US government is trying to start an authoritarian surveillance state and the MLO are victims of that. They are brainwashed into thinking from their programming that they must fix America

[old idol]

Like think about it, in Los Suenos everyone is a victim: civilians, cops, businessmen, politicians... everyone gonna get smoked in LS

Night City may be the same to some degree but corpos have an advantage there though

[stoic thistle]

I'm mentally picturing an MLO election campaign.

[chilly thorn]

ready or not is a story about authority, government overreach, poverty, and societal collapse

[old idol]

Though if you are not rich, then you might as well die the same in Night City as you would in Los Suenos

[twilit halo]

Will there be a future update

[old idol]

i dont think boiling point is the last dlc not by a long shot

[twilit halo]

I hope not

[chilly thorn]

DLC5: Collapse, coming soon trust.

[old idol]

like yeah new america might imply a sense of finality but its not intended to be the very last mission or anything like that

[chilly thorn]

Since each dlc is 3
Missions if this game gets 6 like is in the files then we are in for like 36 total missions in this game that’s ALOT

[stoic thistle]

Imagine a DLC where you have no ROE.

[chilly thorn]

That’d be shit

Roe is like a main gameplay mechanic

[pseudo hull]

didnt the president say something about that

[old idol]

i think that would be a problem because ready or not suddenly doesnt become a cop game and more like just another tactical shooter

[twilit halo]

Hate game needs more bloody non lethal weapons

[chilly thorn]

The problem is what do they even add lol

[pseudo hull]

grenade launcher ftw

[twilit halo]

Money btw

[pseudo hull]

i wish i could just use beanbag rounds in the shotguns

[chilly thorn]

I can only think about the baton launcher from swat 4

[old idol]

though even then i find it very questionable that s ranking in ready or not means d platoon somehow brings pepper guns to subdue even the most lethal threats like terrorists and armed cultists

[twilit halo]

Pepper gun does absolutely nothing xd

[old idol]

i am more than certain real swat teams would likely use lethal force against such forces because they literally have to

[chilly thorn]

It wouldn’t work in the semi auto shotguns

Beanbags don’t have enough power to cycle the gun automatically

[stoic thistle]

M32 rotary stinger grenade launcher.

[old idol]

also i personally kinda prefer the flash launcher over the bean bag because there is a smaller margin of error. if you miss your shots with the beanbag, you're kinda screwed

and the flash launcher can stun more than one suspect if they're close to each other

[chilly thorn]

Yes but it is also BLINDING

[twilit halo]

Atleast the shotgun is free dor

[rocky plover]

No just no lol

[chilly thorn]

And all the effects hurt my brain

[old idol]

You literally have the anti-flash goggles

[chilly thorn]

Still blurs your screen and shakes your shit
Up

[old idol]

I never had that much issue with it

[rocky plover]

Yea obviously, problem is ammo economy on big maps solo

[pseudo hull]

i like it when my team just ignores orders to restrain suspects and they get up and start shooting everyone

[distant beacon]

why is the game especially buggy now? nearly every mission I'm having problems with AI getting stuck in hiding places and refusing to leave, evidence getting stuck in places I can't grab

[pseudo hull]

why does the ai sometimes just ignore you

[old idol]

Thats the only real downside of the flash launcher, its low ammo

[rocky plover]

Yea I swear they die half the time when that happens

[old idol]

Also you don't reload individual shells, you just yank an entire mag out

[twilit halo]

Frrr is it just me that the ai swat team is stupid like hell they don't know what they are doing

[chilly thorn]

I mean you only really need 12 grenade launcher shots for one map

[rocky plover]

I take 18 and another 4 from the long tactical and it's still not enough for like 3 letter triad solo

[old idol]

I got so desperate trying to S rank Relapse I had to change my loadout because Im kinda terrible at lining up my shots with the bean bag

The VPL is also kinda trash in my opinion since it cant instantly stun enemies on hit, you would be running out of ammo fairly quickly

[rocky plover]

28 fucking suspects and that's if they don't get back up for the 2nd time

[chilly thorn]

If I’m using the flashbang launcher I just bring 6 slots for it, 2 for secondary and then grenades

[twilit halo]

Hard difficulty is crazy

[old idol]

The beanbag is much better at actually stunning suspects since they usually comply after you hit them once

[rocky plover]

I bring 12 slots for it which is 18 shots and the 1 slot left for taser

And m320 flash for another 4 flashes lol

[old idol]

The new secondary less lethal pistol is so fucking trash man, why does it have so little ammo

I think it needs to double its capacity to even be remotely useful

[rocky plover]

Yea you need 1 whole mag for just 1 suspect, if you miss once you're fucked

[chilly thorn]

It’s
So fun though if you ignore the tasers existence

it’s so satisfying like the other peppers

[rocky plover]

On hard at least

[old idol]

The only benefit the less lethal pistol has is that you can use it with the shield

But even then its not a good idea and im p sure you can use the taser with the shield

[chilly thorn]

You only need 3 shots to stun them on all difficulties the dust in the air does the rest

[twilit halo]

Use that for your ai teammates

[old idol]

Thats like half the mag though, my biggest issue with it is its really bad ammo capacity

With how many shots you want to stun the suspect, you run out of ammo really quickly.

[chilly thorn]

The taser needs a GRANDIOUS nerf in this game it’s objectively op

[pseudo hull]

i dont get why civilians will completely ignore you if you're not close enough to them

[twilit halo]

How is the taser op

[old idol]

No the taser is actually balanced in that it punishes you if you miss your shots

You only shoot twice with the taser

[pseudo hull]

im pretty sure it makes anyone surrender

[chilly thorn]

Instant surrender laser beam machine with more then enough ammo for 1 slot of your inventory

[twilit halo]

No because what if he has a vest

[rocky plover]

Can't use it with shield cos it was changed from secondary to tactical

[chilly thorn]

Armor doesn’t block tasers in this game

[old idol]

Oh you cant use the taser, so you have to use the shittier less lethal secondary

[twilit halo]

Wth I swear it does last time it didn't work

[old idol]

Also I cant understand why they made the smg less lethal gun that literally is inferior to the rifle in a lot of ways
It needs a buff and I think a good start would be buffing its ammo and allowing for burst fire at very least

[rocky plover]

At least if leaving it 6 shots per mag, give us like 3 mags per 1 slot invested in it not just 1 mag -_- similar to taser

[chilly thorn]

They should make the taser a secondary again and make the pepper ball a tactical

[twilit halo]

It would be nice if they add auto fire for the pepper rifle

[chilly thorn]

Or hehhehehe MAKE THE TASER A LONG TACTICAL then you would have a REAL loss

[rocky plover]

Pepperballs smg has better reload speed and shorter but yea holds only 12 peppers instead of 25 like the rifle so meh

[chilly thorn]

It needs a DOWNSIDE there is no reason not to take it

[old idol]

Meh i can live without the long tacticals, most of them at least

[rocky plover]

That's only for gas cloud, for stun needs 4 on standard and 6 on hard

[chilly thorn]

Sacrificing your mirror gun for free and easy surrenders I think is fair

[old idol]

They are useful but not necessarily needed every time

[chilly thorn]

The taser either needs to have a slot change or be nerfed

[old idol]

The M320 grenade launcher is probably the most busted one because you literally get to have free grenades that detonate almost instantly

[rocky plover]

Was already nerfed

From having 8 shots to 6 shots per 1 slot

[old idol]

Though it is actaully a bit balanced since you can only shoot once with it

[chilly thorn]

Still op as shit

[rocky plover]

Also was nerged again recently

[chilly thorn]

They nerfed the range and that was not its issue…

[rocky plover]

Range reduced by half and it made it loud same as a gunshot

But yea still good if used correctly

[chilly thorn]

Too good…

[rocky plover]

Much better than pepper spray

[old idol]

Supposedly the CS gas grenade used to be a pretty great grenade but somehow it is broken and now is kind of trash. What happened

[chilly thorn]

It’s good now

It was broken In LSS

[rocky plover]

It's slightly better now not as op as it was but at least good and usable

[old idol]

Its probably not as good as the stinger and flashbang that immediately stuns suspects right as they detonate

[chilly thorn]

It’s not good on the new maps because they wear gas masks but other then that they are my favorite grenade

[floral peak]

I remember how good it was pre LSS

[chilly thorn]

CS
gas holds them down and they have less of a chance to resist it

[old idol]

But suspects mostly always comply when you stun them with flashbangs or stingers

[chilly thorn]

Some suspects can just tank a flashbang and unless they have a mask they will never tank gas

[rocky plover]

Remember how pepper spray was the best less lethal back in early access lol?

[chilly thorn]

We don talk about that

[floral peak]

That happens if there another suspect nearby and with full morale

[old idol]

Did the beanbag shotgun not exist or it was nerfed?

[floral peak]

It always existed

[chilly thorn]

It was really shit from what I remembered in early access

[rocky plover]

It always existed and was good, was slightly nerfed but still good but pepper spray was a god send lol

[old idol]

I have no idea why the pepper spray was anywhere close to good, because you are virtually powerless when using it
Its good for swat larp but when up against suspects with guns that will kill you point blank, why should you ever use it

[chilly thorn]

Pepper balls will always be my favorite nonlethals

[rocky plover]

Wdym shit it could headshot and make the suspects disorientated for longer without killing them

[chilly thorn]

Speaking of the early access pepper spray do you remember how broken the particles were?

[old idol]

Okay random question how many shots does the VPL need to stun a suspect

[chilly thorn]

3

[rocky plover]

From the actual shots 4 on standard 6 on hard

[chilly thorn]

All peppers take 3-4 from my expierence

[rocky plover]

3 only if he stays in the gas cloud

[chilly thorn]

The stun seems rather random on hard sometimes I’ve even had them stunned in one

And sometimes they squabble away from 10

[rocky plover]

Lol

More forgiving to use but more inconsistent

[chilly thorn]

It’s hard to get consistent damage or reactions in this game so always take all info with a grain of salt honestly

[pseudo hull]

why are most places in this game very dark

[rocky plover]

True

[pseudo hull]

even in valley of the dolls with big ass windows its still dark as hell inside

[chilly thorn]

It’s the style of the game, meant to emulate to early 2000s HD era visuals with the harsh shadows

[pseudo hull]

how do you know that

[chilly thorn]

It’s called “Hyper realism” were instead of actually being realistic all the colors and shadings are heavily exaggerated

[old idol]

On the topic of visibility, Neon Tomb's dance floor

[rocky plover]

Carriers of the vine fog

[old idol]

Though the whole map is rather dim where you can barely see stuff

This isnt really a good thing when you consider how aggressive and deadly the Hand terrorists are

[pseudo hull]

yeah

[rocky plover]

Yea

[chilly thorn]

That’s the point

It’s meant to be a visual mindfuck

That’s what makes the level hard

The devs do it a lot with the harder levels

Like how the suspects clothing on port is designed to mix in with the floor

[pseudo hull]

atleast its not dark as hell in ana

[bitter mason]

Kinda surprised that ana is so bright

[pseudo hull]

still have to use goggles because of the tripwires though

[chilly thorn]

Yes but the suspects clothing perfectly matches the colors of the office areas

They always pull some mean stuff and I like it it’s fun

[rocky plover]

Don't need them tbh of you see the black box

[old idol]

then theres twisted nerve where it was so dark that in my first playthrough i did not bother enough to bring nvgs which are pretty much a requirement with how dark it is

[rocky plover]

And get used to spawn

[pseudo hull]

yeah i find them hard to notice compared to the very apparent line

[rocky plover]

Ye ofc

[pseudo hull]

i'll probably spot them better when i get started on the psychosis achievement

[bitter mason]

Not really had an issue of spotting guys unless they are shooting at me through the tiniest gaps

[pseudo hull]

long range makes me feel blind

[old idol]

though playing twisted nerve without nvgs kinda elevates the creepy factor of it, like you're just going through dilapitated houses filled with junkies that can jump you

[chilly thorn]

I love twisted with only a flashlight when I first played the map in beta I only had chem lights lol

[bitter mason]

I did see an mlo guy on ana hide behind a shelf near a wall but it didn't work in his favour since his animations of entering it clipped through the wall so I saw him lol

[rocky plover]

Same sometimes ngl

[pseudo hull]

everyone in this game has like 20/10 vision

[chilly thorn]

Their are no openable shelf hiding spots on Ana

[rocky plover]

It's always the pixel peeks

[bitter mason]

It was a shelf angled against the wall
He wasn't hiding in it he was hiding behind it

[old idol]

I had a bug where eve in Carriers of the Vine literally got stuck in the church where my officers yell at her to get out of there but she cant get out of there because she clipped through the benches

[chilly thorn]

Ah

[bitter mason]

It is a specific hiding spot with animations for them getting in and out
I was about to breach the room he was in and I saw him clip through the wall

Could have very easily got the drop on me if it wasn't for that

[rocky plover]

There is a quite common spawn near the mayors officer room where he hides behind the cabinet

[chilly thorn]

Strange cuz they aren’t even coded for hiding fucking spaghetti code

[rocky plover]

Idk if it's the same one

[molten wasp]

Wish void add echo mask as a cosmetic

[chilly thorn]

Every copy of Ron is actually personalized

[rocky plover]

Rnjesus

[bitter mason]

Void need to figure out they can make cosmetics warp to fit the characters faces
They won't have awful clipping issues and be able to include balaclavas then

[chilly thorn]

It’s illegal for swat officers to cover their face, they only allowed it in multiplayer since it’s not canon I believe

[old idol]

Mine had like two specific bugs, one suspect in Greased Palms that never surrendered and another where eve clipped through a bench and cannot get out

Another weird anomaly is a stun grenade trying to assimilate with my gun

[rocky plover]

No? Quite the contrary to avoid being targeted in their personal life

[molten wasp]

But Isn't It supposed to protect the officers identity

[chilly thorn]

I don’t give a shit about the chinstraps they need to move the helmet mics when you wear a gas mask

[rocky plover]

Ye

[chilly thorn]

It’s illegal in California as of 2026

[bitter mason]

Real
And the s10 needs to be higher up its hanging way too low

[rocky plover]

Damn rly, Cali is really going to shit

With all the gun laws and such

[molten wasp]

So Is los suenos

[old idol]

cue the suspects saying they'll remember their face

[chilly thorn]

Eh we have some good stuff

Good doctors and lots of colleges

[old idol]

not like it matters if some los loco or some thug from the streets know who i am if i'm never seeing them in the jail cell

[rocky plover]

Sure hope so at least

[molten wasp]

Also life threatening because you're arresting dangerous Individuals

Such as the cartels

[chilly thorn]

Leading progressive state, California would rather leave America than suppress rights. So that’s always something nice

(Unless it’s the rights to not paying 30k for a normal AR)

[old idol]

also if i recall correctly they changed the enemies of buy cheap buy twice to be hispanics when they were russian before

[molten wasp]

Yeah they were originally russian

[chilly thorn]

This is why you should be like me because technically all my guns are illegal

[desert vapor]

Why'd they change it?

[rocky plover]

Lol

[old idol]

I have no idea, maybe they want to tell the player about Los Locos involvement in the criminal trade

[chilly thorn]

They are mixed Russian and Hispanic

In the beta it was all Russian because “Russia = Evil”

[desert vapor]

Btw if anyone wants to answer do you guys ever use mp's?

[chilly thorn]

All the smgs are really good except the pistol brace

[cedar mulch]

It’s full of los locos there now

[desert vapor]

Except when the suspect has any kind of armor

[chilly thorn]

2-3 shots to down someone with AP

[rocky plover]

Ap still good for L2 arnor

[pseudo hull]

i actually think my whole team has a brainworm controlling their actions

[rocky plover]

And mp7 or p90 for L3

[desert vapor]

I just don't find myself using mps because I prefer single shot over full auto and armored suspects can tank a lot

[chilly thorn]

And smgs spew bullets at such a high rate that armor isn’t really an issue

[bitter mason]

And yet buy cheap buy twice still doesn't have the second detective who we are meant to run into

[cedar mulch]

Plot-wise, I think that makes perfect sense. After all, the hitmen in Narcos were sent by the car dealership.

[chilly thorn]

Especially if you just say fuk it and headshot

[desert vapor]

This number goes up if they wear anything higher light armor

Also full auto on ps5 is a bit difficult

[chilly thorn]

He’s TECHNICALLY there but he doesn’t have any unique voicelines but on RARE chance his model will spawn as a suspect. I’m pretty sure it’s cut content leaking through

[old idol]

I dont know if its just me but it felt a little weird for me to see the Russian mafia do business in the west coast considering not that many russians live in Los Angeles which is what Los Suenos is based on

[desert vapor]

Doesn't esperanza get away?

[old idol]

It might be a homage to SWAT 4 considering that the Russian mafia is one of the antagonists of the game but it made sense since SWAT 4 took place in the East Coast

[chilly thorn]

Earth is globe Russia connects to Pacific Ocean

[bitter mason]

I thought i might have run into him but I never saw his face
He does have voice lines in the game files and narcos briefing states we should run into him

[chilly thorn]

He is on narcos

He’s the informant that dies

[old idol]

On the topic of cut content, Void somehow took the effort to remake the mexican restaurant that was present in earlier builds that never made it to the final game as free dlc

[rocky plover]

Fast food?

[old idol]

Chicos

[chilly thorn]

Fast food only came back as an excuse for Zack to make a banger ost the real map was stolen valor

[cedar mulch]

In the story, the Russian mafia relies entirely on Los Locos. They need the cartel’s criminal network to facilitate the black market trade in firearms.

[sage portal]

That Mexican restaurant is something else.

[rocky plover]

Yea that was smth lol

[old idol]

I remember being mildly annoyed at Hunger Strike since the suspects are so trigger happy that they kill the civilians like a minute after you take combat though the mission itself is about as easy as the gas station

[chilly thorn]

Fast food is honestly a very whatever map which… yeah I don’t know what I expected it’s a fucking Mexican truck stop.

Stolen valor was fucking heat though

[cedar mulch]

I’m wondering whether Los Locos and the Russian Mafia have wiped out all other criminal organisations. They’ve even got links to the Spider Organisation; compared to them, other criminal organisations are simply insignificant.

[old idol]

Like hunger strike is a rather short mission, you can beat in less than 5 minutes with how small it is

[sage portal]

Here's me trying to s tier hide and seek.

[bitter mason]

I know
The briefing states we should have also ran into him in the dealership
More like unfinished content rather than cut

[sage portal]

I have yet to do so.

[chilly thorn]

I believe one of the commander mode officers says he ran off

So it’s probably just cut and they accidentally put his model back into the pool

[bitter mason]

Interesting
Bit of a cop out
Would be more interesting needing to watch out for him

[chilly thorn]

It would be but they probably didn’t want to code a new npc type for one mission

[cedar mulch]

I think it would be interesting for VOID to create a map featuring a three-way battle. Given that Mike seemed rather unstable on voice chat, I even thought he might turn his gun on Los Locos.

[sage portal]

Do you know how many times I've shot people not needed shot bc they just run out

[bitter mason]

They'd just need to make him a suspect with 0 morale and 0 aggression

[old idol]

okay i dont understand how ready or not's "personal best" time works, it looks like it counts even you failing the mission as "completing it"
no way it is possible for relapse to be beat in 2 minutes unless the speedrunners can prove me wrong

[rocky plover]

Ye it's bugged

[chilly thorn]

0 morale would make him shoot him self on contact and 1 would still have the off chance he shoots at you

[cedar mulch]

There should be some element of randomness. For example, in some situations, Mike might attack Los Locos with a gun.

[chilly thorn]

Considering how rushed 1.0 is they probably just said fuck it and took it out

[bitter mason]

I'm sure there are plenty of easy parameters for them to add that make him none hostile and always give up without wasting himself

[chilly thorn]

They could spawn him as a civilian but that would be lore inaccurate

[bitter mason]

Im waiting for the update they actually go through the vanilla missions and bring them up to a higher quality
It took LSS update for them to give Mrs Tran her voice lines
And still she should probably just be immobile in the bed like the briefing suggests

[chilly thorn]

This is why I hope they come back to overhaul the old levels with dlc quality control because near the end of the 1.0 cycle levels started having… less focus

[bitter mason]

Yep that we can agree on

[sage portal]

I need to go through the basic (starter maps) when the game first released.

[bitter mason]

If it wasn't for narcos something very cool they could have done with dealer is have it rng on which detective is alive and which is dead along with it being rng where you find the dead detective so you need to keep an eye out for either one of them being alive

[chilly thorn]

Maybe some day who knows

[sage portal]

The car dealership ship is also something else.

[chilly thorn]

The new voice actors and models were a surprise with the consoles release

(Very happy they replaced Mr “Genericcivillian0”)

[old idol]

okay so how does the neon tomb bomb vests for the civilians work, i know suspects with them charge at you and detonate when close enough but how does the civilian ones work

[cedar mulch]

I really can’t understand why that car dealership still one or two suspected mafia members. They don’t even speak Russian anymore.

[chilly thorn]

Even if he’s iconic with his lines and goofy ass death vocalizations

[old idol]

on the topic of voice acting i dont know why they replaced TOCs voice considering it made it to the final game but got replaced in dark waters

[rocky plover]

I preferred some of the old map layouts

[chilly thorn]

The accent change of the suspects was pretty half hazard, I
Doubt a Los locos member would have Russian orthodox tattoos lol

[old idol]

for stuff like judge and the teammates i assume they were placeholder considering how amateurish they kinda sounded

[bitter mason]

I prefer the new toc tbh

[chilly thorn]

Don’t disrespect new TOC he’s goated

Old one had like 5 lines he got on my nerves

[bitter mason]

I wish the chopper had more voice lines for specific call outs rather than it just being compass directions

[chilly thorn]

“WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU DOING-“

You can view the helicopter in the T view now ^^

Also the worst part of this update is them patching the P90 reload

[bitter mason]

Having the chopper function in the form of drones would work great on other maps
Unless they got rid of it rust belt has a drone flying above the start

[old idol]

i feel like the current toc voice kinda feels a lot more laid back and fitting for a "Guy who talks through the mic telling cops what to do" than the more authoritative voice of the old toc

[rocky plover]

Such as old port, old hotel, old cherryessa farm

[bitter mason]

Thank god

[chilly thorn]

Old cherryessa sucked I’m sorry

New cherryessa also sucks lol

It’s like relapse that map was fucked since conception

[old idol]

i remember the map being annoying for my first playthrough but honestly i had skill issue because most of the maps i can s rank fairly easily on standard as of now

just DO NOT go to the courtyard, you will almost always die or at least be left at half health

[chilly thorn]

Old port was fun but artistically it was boring

Old hotel still hasn’t been replaced or remade

[bitter mason]

I do miss old port

I dont think i ever managed to complete old hotel raid

[chilly thorn]

I like the new layout more, and visually it’s much more interesting with less goofy music

[old idol]

I kinda want to like Relapse but its frustrating AND it wanes out my patience

[sage portal]

Im currently stuff on the the last one on the dlc. I don't have the new one but I play what others have and haven't beaten the last one yet

[bitter mason]

Was never a fan of it felt too big
Barricade hotel was good I liked that

[stoic thistle]

It could be good for a lower stakes mission.

[chilly thorn]

Hotel was a fucking gang war

[old idol]

The hyper aggressive enemies, you needing to take that same dude alive and the map being so big where you have to spend 5 to 10 minutes trying to find the last few suspects and civilians

[chilly thorn]

It had its issues but it was a fucking vibe that map was creepy as hell especially since I’ve been to the real place

[stoic thistle]

I wouldn't know, I've never played it.

[bitter mason]

Baller

[old idol]

Relapse in all honesty isnt as good as I remembered

[bitter mason]

I do like the spookyness of the new hotel tho one of my favourite missions

[floral peak]

Beanbag might just be my key to the Hard S ANA

[cedar mulch]

The Old Hotel is also full of los locos; they’re absolutely everywhere.

[old idol]

I prefer Neon Tomb because at least its shorter even if the enemies are the same and the objectives are relatively similar too

[bitter mason]

Relapse i really don't like
Feels the least polished out of all the maps

[chilly thorn]

It’s Los locos fighting the Bikers after a deal gone wrong they even drove a fucking van into one of the entrance

[bitter mason]

And just a bit too long for my taste I get bored halfway through

[old idol]

Thats my main problem with Relapse

[chilly thorn]

That’s because it’s unfinished lol

[old idol]

its too dang big

[bitter mason]

Real and true lol

[chilly thorn]

The suspects don’t even have unique voicelines

And qadamahs BALLS ARE INVISIBLE

[old idol]

i think relapse deserves a remake considering im p sure it hasnt changed since its beta

[bitter mason]

Quadamah being held in the hospital and there is 0 police guarding him ig

[cedar mulch]

We all know Rebels Rejects simply don’t stand a chance against Los Locos. They were thoroughly thrashed at the Old Hotel.

[chilly thorn]

relapse needs a complete overhaul along side streamer

Streamer still makes no sense

[old idol]

streamer is okay i dont think it needs a remake

[bitter mason]

Swat 4 hospital mogs relapse by a mile

[chilly thorn]

Your talking like the swat 4 hospital wasn’t also dogshit

[old idol]

maybe the plot doesnt make sense but it works okay for what it is

its meant to be a beginner mission, thats always what it was intended for iirc

[cedar mulch]

It was nothing more than a one-sided slaughter; the Rebels Rejects were poorly armed.

[bitter mason]

It was if you took anything but the second entry point

[chilly thorn]

Speaking of bad swat 4 maps… the cloning lab

[bitter mason]

Streamer should have been the first level tbh
Reduce the suspects a huge amount and add more civvies

[chilly thorn]

I HATED that map it was such a slog

[bitter mason]

That one is fine too
The subway is the worst swat 4 map

[chilly thorn]

Subway always has a suspect run off to some unknown pocket universe

[bitter mason]

Which is what makes it annoying as hell

[cedar mulch]

They should add a free mission. Let’s go and take on the biker gang. Although I reckon it’ll be a bit of a walk in the park.

[chilly thorn]

Oops
Minus 30 points because you didn’t stop the suspect who was already right next to the exit

[old idol]

if im not wrong isnt the whole reason why streamer even is a mission is because of a viewer swatting michael by faking a non-existent homicide?

[stoic thistle]

That happens irl.

[bitter mason]

Yes

[chilly thorn]

Some of those swat 4 maps would only be accepted in 2005 if void did that shit their mean ass fanbase would
Crucify them

[stoic thistle]

It was recently done to some politicians in Indiana.

[bitter mason]

He just happens to have 11 heavily armed goons

[chilly thorn]

It’s 5 suspects

[old idol]

then curiously enough Michael is running a crypto mining operation discreetly and trading illegal content

[chilly thorn]

But still weird, they should have just used the excuse that’s it’s gang territory and remove all the bitcoin mining stuff

[old idol]

I kind of wished there was a small optional interaction Judge or any of the D platoon members can have with the stream because the only thing you can do is shoot the camera

[chilly thorn]

Honestly think streamer would’ve been better if the suspects were completely uninvolved with Micheal and you just breached the wrong block, Micheal should have just been a random guy who wasn’t connected to the ring

[old idol]

They did go the length to have optional dialogue with COAST in the Dark Waters maps of Mirage at Sea and Leviathan

[chilly thorn]

That would make sense

[chilly thorn]

Mirage at sea sure is a map that exists

[old idol]

I hate how trigger happy the suspects are to civilians, like I hate it when maps give me a time limit for a game where you shouldn't be hyper aggressive at room clearing (cough cough Elephant)

[stoic thistle]

Do you think that more mundane missions would be good?

[old idol]

Yea even if it makes no sense for the LSPD to send D Platoon for less serious crimes that dont need a SWAT team

Im pretty sure a well-armed patrol unit could easily deal with half of the missions in Ready or Not instead of sending their best men to die to some low-level thugs

I guess the LSPD is so corrupt and ineffective that D platoon is the only competent unit that bothers with arresting suspects of smaller crimes

[stoic thistle]

Thank you come again could probably be handled by the regular police.

[plush comet]

More than half of the missions can turn into the fucking ballroom blitz lol

All gods burn invariably so in the lobby

[lilac mural]

It was nice to see that the latest patch removed low fps in no good deed map at ps5 pro. There are also plenty other maps that would need the same treatment. I wonder if it had anything to do with the rubber ducks because no matter what before the patch when i launched the map it was instantly with poor fps.

[plush comet]

https://youtu.be/mPQPdYttl7U?t=45

[old idol]

Ends of the Earth and Twisted Nerve as well, though the latter do have some rather deadly methheads that might pose a serious risk to ordinary patrol cops

Like these mentioned missions involve regular ass people that don't have fancy weapons and buy cheap pistols, smgs and shotguns they can find
They hold nowhere near the same threat level as say Yemeni terrorists or a well-armed cult

[cedar hamlet]

Not sure why
But for some reason rust belt is the bane of my existence
I JUST NEED THE S RANKKKK

[old idol]

Have you tried S ranking Greased Palms and Relapse

Rust Belt is a fairly easy mission with how generous it is with cover, the corridors are quite tight to where you will never have that many sightlines for suspects to shoot at you

The most deadliest part of the map imo is the outside, but even then its not too hard

[covert furnace]

using rotary or beanbag?

[cedar hamlet]

beanbag

[tranquil galleon]

Got a flashbang bug that meant I couldn't throw flashes or see down my scope just before I had to clear the top floor of ANA, im losing it

[cedar hamlet]

I think I already s ranked greased palms
relapse is awful with the s vests

[mortal geode]

there's so many duped bug reports on #1050535723087958156 that its getting annoying, people really cant read bug reports guidelines

[wind gyro]

report it to @hollow falcon

[reef whale]

Please I joined this discord to find a fix for my keybinds not staying on reset… does anyone know how to fix this 😭

Or is console just not gonna work properly

[wide verge]

what's the best entry point in 3 letter triad?

[covert furnace]

golly gee do the suspects shoot at the ghosts in sins of the father too? ive heard well over 200 bullets shot on the floor im no where near entering

[mortal geode]

most time i play with randoms they choose Loading bay

[foggy fulcrum]

Wow, really? I've played this map a hundred times and never saw her fight the suspects. I've only heard her mention being against the suspects once (something like, "If the police won't do anything about this, I will.").

[wide verge]

it's a female too

[keen canyon]

Gang. Quick question: is there a difference between pie-ing a door, peeking it. And also sliding it? Would like to have a nice explanation

[gentle hemlock]

So peaking just means like your leaning on the door to get a quick view

Pie-ing a door is where your moving across the door just to see if there is anything and you end up on the other side. Correct me if I'm wrong

Also if you play Commander mode you can make the AI peak and pie on a single door and you could just look at that

[wide verge]

pieing is basically doing a half circle to the other side of the door way. peeking is a quick lean and look, ideally a center check

[gentle hemlock]

Oh I thought it ended up on the other side

I knew I was gonna be wrong lmao

[reef whale]

Does anyone know about these keybinds being bugged and not staying?

[pseudo hull]

surely i will play rust belt and not get completely lost

has to happen one of these times

[keen canyon]

Wait- is it called pieing bc you cut the room into pieces to scan like a pie?

[gentle hemlock]

I think

[keen canyon]

… yk I didn’t think about that till now. Lowkey feel stupid lmaooo

[gentle hemlock]

It's alright lmao

[mortal geode]

yes

[keen canyon]

Man I feel dumb for not realizing that earlier 💀

But wtv we ball 😼

[covert furnace]

i wanna know the ammo these relapse suspects are using, they rock my world like no other

[keen canyon]

They using that pack-a-punch ammo

[reef whale]

Guess not

[mortal geode]

no one knows how to fix it yet

[cobalt raven]

Ak style weapons

N such

[fringe echo]

Anyone have connections problems being in your friends server but when your owner it doesn’t lag?

[old idol]

pretty sure the roe never gets changed in any of the missions unless im wrong

how did you even get unauthorized use of force though?

[somber wolf]

Getting a lot of negative energy here

[cedar mulch]

Would you support introducing a three-way shootout? For example, if a member of the public were to come across a firearm and wanted to engage in a shootout with a suspect

I think this free-for-all mechanic will be really interesting

[covert furnace]

Don't be a hero.

[wide verge]

Makes no sense

[cedar mulch]

What about the community college and the amusement park? Both of these locations have security guards, and I think they should fight back against the gunman.

[cedar mulch]

I think it’s clear that security staff at community colleges would fight back against a gunman. It would only be reasonable for them to carry a handgun.

[lost inlet]

pretty sure no one would like seeing themselves getting penalized for shooting a civi pointing a gun at them.

also there's a possibility that the civi would started engaging to the suspect, get themselves killed and the game slapped you in the face for it.

[cedar mulch]

The system could be changed so that, for example, if a civilian picks up a gun, they are automatically treated as a suspect.

[coral tapir]

MFW I have to not shoot the guy who can legit shoot me dead in 0.2s using an automatic who has yet to surrender within 2 seconds otherwise I'll get looked down for violating RoE :

[drowsy plume]

is the my eyes it burns achievement fixed, its not mentioned in changelog

[cedar mulch]

Or perhaps have two rival factions firing at each other, such as fast food and 3LT

[drowsy plume]

cool thanks

[coral tapir]

Shit you're right now I am on the dead or alive poster!!!

I should have never done this NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[tropic harness]

the MLO are so attractive

[finite urchin]

how can I replace voicelines?

[final ember]

AI teammates don't turn on their IR lasers anymore
guess those multi laser attachments got them sorta confused

[pseudo trout]

Bros in MLOs dms

[tropic harness]

Bingo

[mortal geode]

my teammate killed me because he though my shield will block the bullets

[rustic quartz]

is there really a point to the lockpick gun besides lockpicking doors faster

[lament lava]

That’s coward talk

[mortal geode]

nah

[lost inlet]

it lockpicks faster and quieter.

after using it for a while, it's hard going back to default lockpicking speed.

[floral peak]

True

It’s really nice to have

[pseudo hull]

is the grenade launcher the best weapon

[mortal geode]

for ANA the best

[floral peak]

Honestly I went back to beanbag for Hard S ana, I making better progress now

[pseudo hull]

i really wish the ai would listen to me

[mortal geode]

we all wish

[tacit flame]

does uncensored or not mod work in hide and seek lvl?

[mortal geode]

I know what kind of a man you are

[worldly ridge]

Had her get into a gunfight with the suspects in the room I was breaching. Was a "wtf if going on" moment.

[pseudo hull]

lol

[tacit flame]

just don t wanna break my immersion

[pseudo hull]

should work

[somber wolf]

FISA:

[vocal wing]

@floral peak I gave up on beanbag after seeing one guy only drop his gun on the eighth shot

[floral peak]

unlucky, have good luck

[hollow finch]

wheres the VO folder nowadays? I cant find it in /content/

I wanna change some voicelines

[tulip shell]

Question

How do I add someone who's on Xbox from Steam Deck? I'm trying to play cross platform

[mortal geode]

if im right it should be in FMOD folder

[hollow finch]

thats juts a bunch of .bank files in a folder called desktop

[mortal geode]

yup

there are the voicelines

[hollow finch]

shit

how do I modify them?

[mortal geode]

you need i think fmod bank tools

but idk i've never done that

[velvet steeple]

Footsteps from the guys running around with 120 rounds flanking us are not nearly loud nuff

[acoustic solar]

how does ai usage of the m320 work

[inner jewel]

This might be outdated, but https://steamcommunity.com/app/1144200/discussions/0/596280581879235076/

[last star]

I've just finished A new America and I arrested the guy with the detonator but when I finished the mission I didn't get any cut scene or go to judge's apartment. Was there some other prerequisite for this to trigger?

[mortal geode]

S rank

[umbral gorge]

So I did beat cop like 3 times in row quick play, but didnt get the achievement . Only used pistol with attachments and nothing else. Didnt even equipped anything accidentally. Only kicked down doors and let ai do the rest yet still nothing. Do ai have to use pistol only or do it solo?

[last star]

Ohhh okay that makes sense thanks! I'm never seeing the cutscene then 😄

[umbral gorge]

Also got B rank each time and no one died.

[bitter mason]

I just had like 5 suspects all rush at me on dealer and they all got gunned down
this AI bro

[valid raven]

is it actually possible for a bullet to hit a suspect go through them and then hit an innocent person behind them?

[mortal geode]

yes

[valid raven]

That’s what over penetration is right?

[mortal geode]

yup

[valid raven]

can hollow points do that or is that only something that can happen with FMJ

I’m pretty sure that even if you get shot with armor on it, still gives you massive bruising and damaged ribs but you may live

But without you would have died

[mortal geode]

idk i only use AP rounds

[valid raven]

I usually base it on the mission

I often carry a mix of both

with medium ammor

it gives decent protection against most threats and doesn’t limit movement speed much

i’m guessing the reason why the chest is the most armored part is because that’s the most likely spot to get hit

[signal patrol]

Guys i know a good feature in the game

We must choose how far your SWAT teammate can throw a grenade

[acoustic solar]

trying to s rank rust belt rn and i still have to find the last suspect im so scared man

[signal patrol]

Hopefully we can wear masks (including SWAT teammates) in the next update

Like ski masks

[chilly dock]

Are there any bugs or remaining issues with the game?

[umbral gorge]

Yeah a lot

[arctic timber]

Hello. Is it true there is a time limit in the “a new America” map? Not the 2 minute timer at the end, but one that is not mentioned by TOC

[uncut cliff]

There’s no time limit

[distant epoch]

There is buddy..

[uncut cliff]

What is it then

[distant epoch]

When you walk in the court room and the time runs out the building explodes

[warm gate]

2 to 3 minutes after hitting the jammer

[mortal geode]

bruh "Not the 2 minute timer"

[silk spear]

"Not the 2 minute timer at the end, but one that is not mentioned by TOC"

Reading comprehension is truely a lost art

[distant epoch]

FISA*

[plush comet]

I accidentally the thing and... "Gordon Freeman in the flesh"-ass vibes

[distant epoch]

What if the next DLC is like playing in the past of Judge like in the Nightclub incident in chicago or in nevada

[uncut cliff]

They said they weren’t talking about the signal jammer

[distant epoch]

you find it and FISA responds to you that they we're looking for that device

[uncut cliff]

Yeah

[silk spear]

Your answer is no, there is not a secondary timer besides the timer that starts when you hit the Jammer.

[silk spear]

My fellow officer, OP is asking if there is a secondary timer on top of the nomral Jammer timer

[uncut cliff]

Yeah you can take as long as you want, until you activate the jammer

[distant epoch]

what? no?

[arctic timber]

Not that one. I read there is a timer that is not mentioned

[distant epoch]

There is no secondary timer

[arctic timber]

If you take too long clearing the map, the bomb goes off

[distant epoch]

Nope

[crude prism]

Nah you can just faff about

[arctic timber]

Ok. Looks like I read false info

[distant epoch]

When you activate the device then yea

after the time runs out you fail completely

[arctic timber]

The rumor was you had 10-20 minutes before the bomber detonates. Like if you take too long

[silk spear]

Bomb timers only on 2 base game maps so you're good on ANA.

[arctic timber]

Oh ok good lol

[distant epoch]

Did you confuse yourself with Elephant and Relapse?

[arctic timber]

Nah I was watching a YouTuber name homeless shark or something like that

[silk spear]

Can confirm that is false. First clear with my group took roughly 30 minutes to get to last room.

[crude prism]

The most popular type of RoN youtube video is gameplay misinformation posting

[distant epoch]

Just read the briefing.. brutal

Can RoN players actually read..

[mortal geode]

fr

[arctic timber]

He made it sound like you had a 10-20 minute time limit before you reach the 3rd-4th floor

Rushing that map is awful

[silk spear]

DM me the vid, I want to hear that BS myself.

[distant epoch]

I've never heard such bullshit in my entire life..

i saw that.

[silk spear]

(shhh no you didn't)

[mortal geode]

4:30 is the minute where he says ts

[distant epoch]

im tweaking tf out

[arctic timber]

One moment

[silk spear]

You're good I found it. You got the tubers name right

[distant epoch]

He literally said 20-25 min 😭

[mortal geode]

ong 😭 🙏

[distant epoch]

@arctic timber You're good dw, just read the briefing next time okay

[arctic timber]

When he said that it the video I was like “seriously??”

[silk spear]

I'm gonna go full reddit in the comments ☝️ 🤓

[distant epoch]

Imma make a go fund me to take his account down

spreading fake news

[silk spear]

Okay you know what, just to be 100% sure, I'll turn on the mission right now and time it.

[distant epoch]

You fr wanna wait 20 mins

[silk spear]

I'm a do worse.

I'm a wait a whole hour.

[mortal geode]

my first time in that mission was like 40 minutes

[distant epoch]

He's sacrificing himself for us..

[silk spear]

I gotta study anyway so might as well do something else too XD

[arctic timber]

You’re supposed to take your time on that level too

[mortal geode]

use cheat engine to speed up time

[silk spear]

I'll be real with you, I'm too stupid to know how to do that lol. Appreciate the tip tho 👍

[crude prism]

Every ANA psychosis run takes like 40+ minutes.

There's no timer.

[fringe fjord]

eminem

[upper mauve]

just got all base game missions on hard done yippee

[distant epoch]

All DLC now.

U didn't finish buddy.

[inner jewel]

there's like a 7 minute timer for cctv's being off maybe

[silk spear]

No reward for DLC Hard other than bragging rights and personal torture

[silk spear]

The power supply switch in the breaker room?

[distant epoch]

What is he saying

[inner jewel]

#💬general-discussion message

[upper mauve]

i have to do ANA for the achievement :)

[distant epoch]

Maybe he turned off the power..

[inner jewel]

probably

[distant epoch]

Because i've completed ANA and i didn't turn off the power, the cams we're still up

[arctic timber]

Huh?

[silk spear]

fck, you made me realize they might retroactively add new achievements for old DLC's

[distant epoch]

Why do people spread false info..

[upper mauve]

i honestly wouldnt mind it for all the other DLCs, its just specifically ANA which is such a spike in difficulty

[candid dune]

Sup fellas.

[mortal geode]

wazzaa

[candid dune]

Nothing much, chilling

[silk spear]

There's a power switch in the breaker room you can switch off to turn off sprinklers and CCTV. I haven't timed how long it stays off myself but apperently it's 7 mins 🤷 .

[distant epoch]

No.

[candid dune]

Huh

[arctic timber]

Oh I’m aware of that switch and stuff. I don’t didn’t know apparently there’s an unknown timer

[distant epoch]

It stays up till you turn off the power room

[mortal geode]

why not just cut the cables in cctv?

[silk spear]

That's what I said??? "There's a power switch in the breaker room you can switch off..."

[distant epoch]

That gives u the cams

[valid raven]

a 1980s dlc campaign would be fun

[candid dune]

Could be

[distant epoch]

Yes but they don't cut off in 7 mins..

[candid dune]

Though granted I wonder if they are gonna try to do a LAX type of map for the next dlc

[silk spear]

Okay then how long then? I gave the shrug for a reason.

[valid raven]

The first SWAT teams were made in the LAPD

other departments modeled there’s after that one

[silk spear]

I know damn well it's not perma off after hitting the power cause I had the sprinkers hit me when I got 3rd floor after turning power off, double checked cams and it was back up.

[mortal geode]

btw are sprinkers even do anything?

[valid raven]

Although the modern SWAT team was primarily developed in the 1980s to combat cartels gaining a foothold in the US

[arctic timber]

I know they obscure your screen and vision

[mortal geode]

they do something like that?

[silk spear]

Makes screen blurry but not that much of a big deal since they usually try to do it before they ambush you, but if you wedge everything you're fine.

[valid raven]

The 1980s drug war was very brutal and violent

I think a DLC based on that could be interesting

and we would have very limited tech like the first mirror gun was literally somebody glued a mirror on a long metal stick

To check under doors and around corners

[umbral gorge]

Okay run narcos few times for beat cop. This time a rank, no ai died. No accidental weapon switch or tool. Didnt use shield even took off attachments for both weapons, didnt use cuffs or anything. Just commands for ai and use my pistol and still nothing. Really don’t know what to do. Is it bugged?

[valid raven]

Low ready is a thing in this game right

[arctic timber]

Yeah. It makes you move faster

[valid raven]

Is low ready meant to be a thing so you can maintain muscle discipline and keep the gun off safe

[mortal geode]

yup, there some achievements that are bugged

[valid raven]

So if it misfires it doesn’t shoot a teammate

Although most guns rarely misfire

[warm gate]

I recorded a clip and forgot that ps5 records mic audio and now i just got a clip with skillet playing over the chaos of ready or not

[nocturne oyster]

TOC, suspect is diseased

[valid raven]

Technically thats violating SOP

Only a corner can declare a death

[umbral gorge]

Yeah i know boiling point have bugged achievements at the moment. Dark waters dlc are fiddly. But house invasion still bugged after so long? My friend got it no problem while back the method I did yet for me nothing.

[valid raven]

Or a doctor

although you can suspect someone’s deceased and call one

but they are not officially legally dead until a corner says they are or a doctor

[mortal geode]

just play the game bro 😭

[nocturne oyster]

Bro can't read

[valid raven]

I know i am just being nitpicy

[molten wasp]

Chat quick question, what's your favourite faction to fight In RoN

[valid raven]

On vally of the dolls does anyone else enjoy punching the suspects a lot

Because they are scum for what they did

[silk spear]

I'll be real, I think that some of the achievements the game just wants you to do it again to torture you before giving you the achievement.

Someone on here got the "My Eyes, It Burns" achievement without even trying for it cause they werent standing in the toxic gas. This was AFTER they were trying to get the achievment

[mortal geode]

base game achieve "way out west" is bugged even after long time

[nocturne oyster]

yeah join the queue of people posting "hey guys i killed everyone on votd cuz they're bad people"

[valid raven]

Have you ever ran into players that genuinely made you uncomfortable with there voice chat

[valid raven]

I think death is too easy

[molten wasp]

Yeah because I shot voll In the dick

[valid raven]

They should rot in prison

and studyed

[nocturne oyster]

Hey look at that, got 1 tapped instantly upon peeking again. Why even have armor.

[arctic timber]

I played with a guy who cried

[valid raven]

No, I mean what they said, made me uncomfortable

[arctic timber]

I did not know what to say

[mortal geode]

if you talking about players cursing me with ancient words then yea

[candid dune]

Damn

[umbral gorge]

I was doing it for days. I’m tired. We talking about 10 hours at least of trying to get it. None other achievement took me that long to do up until now. And yeah I know they are fiddly. I got achievements that you get for completing all dark waters dlc achievements yet I didnt had sleeper agent.

[nocturne oyster]

I love superhuman reaction speed, wish I could have some

[stoic thistle]

Doesn't Voll only get 10 years?

[valid raven]

I was like what the actual fuck

[umbral gorge]

Yeah know about it. Doesnt work in multiplayer did it long ago in quick play with no attachments on.

[molten wasp]

What In the actual fuck

[valid raven]

I have a feeling they were just trying to be edgy

[stoic thistle]

Goodness that's a terrible thing.

[nocturne oyster]

sounds like pretty standard 12 year old behavior being edgy online

[valid raven]

No, I mean the goal is to upset people with saying shocking things

And i don’t understand it

[molten wasp]

Shit I know I hate the women cult, but I don't condone women being abused

[nocturne oyster]

It's just attention seeking man

[stoic thistle]

In a world of 8 billion, it's hard to be noticed.

[valid raven]

yes, but you don’t always want to be noticed

[unkempt granite]

i'm surprised gas doesn't give friendly fire

[nocturne oyster]

Obviously those people do

[molten wasp]

Exactly, do you want to be known for something wrong

[valid raven]

I don’t agree with the mindset of any attention is good attention

[molten wasp]

Good thing I'm kept In the dark

[valid raven]

and the whole killers and losers mindset

[stoic thistle]

Serial killers operate like that.

[valid raven]

actually, I think that mindset is just a sociopath

[molten wasp]

That too

[nocturne oyster]

wild convo

[valid raven]

not all the time it’s usually about power

And a lack of empathy

[molten wasp]

Anyway I want to ask a question, what's your favourite faction to fight In RoN

[rich fern]

what is the best way to launch ready or not on steam it gave me 4 options and ive never played before

[valid raven]

speaking of sociopaths most of them are not criminals i just want to say that

[stoic thistle]

Similar situation with mass shooters. It doesn't help that the media turns them into celebrities.

[shrewd quest]

Dude those AIs are getting out of control

[mortal geode]

dx12

[molten wasp]

Are we talking Irl or RoN

[rich fern]

ty

[valid raven]

irl i’m just saying that to dipelharmful stereotype

Although i have met one I think was deeply uncomfortable because he told me he enjoys playing sports so that he can intentionally trip people and pretend it’s an accident because it’s funny when they get hurt and are in pain

[molten wasp]

Jesus Christ

[nocturne oyster]

Yall are shocked easily

[pine token]

i wish the swat ai was programmed not to blindly run in front of open doors when clearing a room

[stoic thistle]

That's very concerning behavior.

[valid raven]

this is the same person that when I played soccer with them, they intentionally kicked the ball into my stomach as hard as they could

[pine token]

it's the number 1 reason i fail my s ranks

[valid raven]

This was in soccer

And pretty sure in most teams they would kick you out for that

[nocturne oyster]

genuinely wtf is the purpose of the MLO guys running for the fire alarm

[valid raven]

anyway back on topic

[candid dune]

Alerting smt? Cause when I trip it, like 4 MLO suspects just come running out

[nocturne oyster]

How would they know where you are based on the sprinklers going off

[stoic thistle]

I wonder if the motion sensors were preexisting.

[candid dune]

No idea

[silk spear]

The sprinkers make screen blurry which makes your aim mild worse, and the alarms fck up hearing them run towards you when they're in the other room.

That's the game design intention anyway. In practice it's like an annoying bug flying around you.

[candid dune]

Ngl tho, for the MLO, I found that the 590M with slug rounds is pretty good at taking them down in one to two hits

[nocturne oyster]

I don't see why it wouldn't be

[valid raven]

I believe it’s just a cosmetic difference

[candid dune]

Yeah

[valid raven]

i’m pretty sure it’s the same

[candid dune]

What does the supporter edition shield even looks like?

[valid raven]

is the shield supposed to slow you down when you have it deployed?

[nocturne oyster]

That's not how hitboxes work

And there's absolutely zero reason why they would alter the hitbox instead of copy pasting it

[valid raven]

does anyone else like that suspects are in random locations so you can play the same maps repeatedly and it doesn’t feel too repetitive

like I always saw it as that property or building got another call for SWAT

[jolly verge]

Patch notes

[silk spear]

coughs awkwardly

[valid raven]

and the suspects are not going to be in the same location as they were last time a SWAT team raided the area

[nocturne oyster]

It's not like the mission happens repeatedly lore wise

[valid raven]

I mean, it’s not unrealistic for a SWAT team to raid the same location more than once

[jolly verge]

Yes, tho speed penalty is disabled while low-ready

[valid raven]

or do you think that’s more of a player convenience thing?

so like the game doesn’t become repetitive

[nocturne oyster]

I think it's a "this is a gameplay mechanic and it has no in-world reasoning because it doesn't need to" thing.

[jolly verge]

Yes, if I find it

[silk spear]

Try around 2021. That's where I just found a discussion about the Supporter shield having more maneuverability.

[tribal swift]

What is the damage difference between .300 blackout and 5.56, they seem to be both 2 shots

[nocturne oyster]

The 300 bl guns sound cooler

[tribal swift]

True

[nocturne oyster]

And I find them more reliable to drop suspects personally

[mint violet]

Has anyone beaten a new America on hard?

[tribal swift]

I noticed it doesnt kill them, it just downs them.

[nocturne oyster]

Doesn't really matter to me, they stay down

[tribal swift]

exactly

[mortal geode]

me

[mint violet]

Any tips?

I sent my guys into a room one time and they all dropped like a sack of bricks

[sacred skiff]

Anyone have any tips for Hide & Seek? I’m trying to S-Rank it but I’m not sure how to go about clearing it.

[wide verge]

Flashbangs, wedges. 6.5 new rifle. Heavy armor

[wide verge]

Flash launcher for everyone. Night vision. Clear outside first. Wedge doors to the warehouse. Enter through tower

[crude prism]

Honestly I assumed they have different hitboxes but it's such a nothing burger I don't think I've ever bothered. I cannot confirm, but that patch note would probably hint they are the same.

The 15% speed penalty and being able to cancel it with low-ready is real.

Aspid is cowriting btw, you can be pretty confident with whatever he says.

[silk spear]

Since SWAT AI have infinite ammo, do I give them pistol ammo or nah to prevent them from switching to to it?

[jolly verge]

https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/1144200/view/3113678624632870078

[mortal geode]

its all luck if we talk about hard, can't help much

[vast garden]

whats a good loadout for ANA

[wide verge]

Give them pepper pistol and no ammo to be safe

[nocturne oyster]

I find the LVAR pretty good there (and in any mission really)

[sacred bridge]

Will there be a patch any time soon

[nocturne oyster]

7.62x51 is nice but I like my 30 round mags and less recoil

[umbral gorge]

So I finally got beat cop in multiplayer. My teammate used pistol, cuffs everything, but I still got the achievement. With that I was suppose to get achievement for getting all home invasion achievements but nothing. How I like ready or not bugged achievements 😁

[nocturne oyster]

I feel like it's less than the other 300BLK rifles as well

[wide verge]

There was a big update about a week ago and a patch hotfix yesterday

[nocturne oyster]

Besides that a few ninebangs for the last room and as much armor as possible

[umbral gorge]

Months later and they still did not fix such trivial thing as achievements.

[jolly verge]

Yeah it is literally P2W , 5% vs 10% penalty on standart shield

[mint violet]

That's fair

[nocturne oyster]

Then you pray to RNGesus that all the nerds show up in the first floors so when you have to run upstairs there's no one left but the guys camping the final room, makes it a lot easier.

[sacred bridge]

Main things for me are the lasers the ai and the cosmetics like the gas mask and helmet clipping through them plus the mic

[nocturne oyster]

I'm gonna go back to playing SWAT 4 EF now that I'm done with this fucking disaster of a mission. Should be therapeutic in comparison to RoN

[crude prism]

It's all over.

(Meanwhile they also didn't release the preorder console weapons for everyone else yet for some reason)

[fossil radish]

I just got my ass beat trying to beat in "The Spider". How bad could it be in the future mission?

[tired jungle]

😇

[charred ginkgo]

what's the unlockable called "Devil" i just got

[mortal geode]

tattoo

[mortal geode]

dude you don't wanna know... oh the horror...

[iron willow]

It's not even comparable tbh

about... 6x the suspects? And way harder AI

You quickly go from being a SWAT squad leader to being the living McGuffin to the National Guard's problems

[silk spear]

Do you REALLY want to know?

[fossil radish]

I am not ready for it... But since the game name is literally "Ready Or Not"

Time to face the death itself i guess.

[silk spear]

You will face the lowest that humanity has to offer...

[sacred bridge]

https://tenor.com/view/how-do-we-tell-him-mr-krabs-spongebob-meme-spongebob-meme-gif-24063814

[tulip shell]

How do I add someone who's on Xbox from Steam Deck? I'm trying to play cross platform, I asked this earlier and got no response

[mortal geode]

epic embed fail

[mortal geode]

have you tried with epic games friends?

[tulip shell]

That's what I'm trying to figure out, I imagine I'd have to use Epic Games friends but I don't know how to add someone on Epic Games because I can't install the launcher on SteamOS

[fossil radish]

I know i could just kill the suspect but i try my best not to. Because i realised it effect the final score

[somber wolf]

Put the Epic app on your phone, and add them through that, then invite them through the game

[fossil radish]

But 2 out of my 3 missions the bot was the one who mag dump a fkn suspect

[jolly verge]

The Triple Weapon Pack Console Pre-Order Perk did not last 12 months yet 🤓

[tulip shell]

Oh also, is there any reason to not use 9-Bangs instead of flashbangs?

[tired jungle]

I think the aoe is smaller

[crude prism]

Significantly

[tired jungle]

But yk it's nice that it goes off so quickly

But that can also be a burden

[rocky plover]

Id say they both got their uses, although I slightly prefer the 9 bang if used correctly

[tired jungle]

I bring 5 of each as i'm always playing with gunfighter

[stiff gyro]

anyone know if updating the mods is difficult or not?

[mortal geode]

It should be easy

[stiff gyro]

i mean for modders

when a new version of the game comes out

[mortal geode]

it should be just copy and paste until devs change something in code that mod was using

[stiff gyro]

oh man

im frustrated arterial bleeding mod isnt up to date

[keen mortar]

whats the difference between the two muzzle brake against apart fom muzzle flash reduction

[jolly verge]

30% vs 40% recoil reduction

Guess which one is 40%

[tired jungle]

Does no muzzle attachment have less flash than the brakes

Because that uses the hider for most guns

[keen mortar]

the SFMB ?

[tribal swift]

What is the difference between the vertical and the combat foregrip?

[jolly verge]

Nope, both no brake amd ASR use the same flash effect, the SFMB has a bit lower flash effect

[jolly verge]

Correct

[keen mortar]

thx

[jolly verge]

Vertical does working on all rifles, combat - doesn't

[keen mortar]

sad since i do enjoy the muzzle flash on my battle rifles

[jolly verge]

It's pretty much the same, only suppressors hide it

[keen mortar]

cambat is horizontal ADS speed and accuracy if i remember correctly

[tired jungle]

The vertical looks stupid on most guns and the combat looks cool always

[tribal swift]

agreed

[keen mortar]

real

[tribal swift]

But statistically the combat is the best

[jolly verge]

Yeap, horizontal does nothing, ADS is only a few ms difference and accuracy does nothing on all guns

[jolly verge]

Other way around

[keen mortar]

yeah but on most guns recoil with a muzzzle brake is fine and it looks better anyways

isnt accuracy like weapon sway when you aim in the game?

[tribal swift]

so the vertical is actually better

[jolly verge]

Yeah combat or side angle looks better

[tribal swift]

But they have no effect

[keen mortar]

just put a muzzle brake and use whatever grip you find cool

[tribal swift]

ya well the LVAR is integrally suppressed

so not much I can do in the muzzle attachments department

[keen mortar]

yeah ig if you want the same but not integrally suppressed theres the ARN 180 ig but yeah the LVAR is a bit unique in that case

[jolly verge]

Vertical and TH are the only grips that actually affects rifles, other grips gives you only ADS speed, even tho they saying horizontal and accuracy thing

Only a few SMGs benefit from horizontal reduction

[jolly verge]

Integrally suppressed guns do not have stress gain reduction bonus like attachment based suppressors

[tribal swift]

So the vertical grip is the play. I am assuming thats a bug and will be fixed?

[wide verge]

Its been a bug for a long time

[tired jungle]

Honestly the lvar is the best

It just feels.. snappy as fuck

[wide verge]

Yea doesn't keep me from using it

[tribal swift]

Think its gonna get fixed?

[wide verge]

Hopefully

[icy walrus]

vertical looks good on Mk18

[icy walrus]

lvar always the best

[rocky plover]

OG gwot era

[icy walrus]

especially now that we can put a long barrel on it

[rocky plover]

Yea

[wild oxide]

does anyone know how to make my cursor stop moving freely

like it's moving around the screen and not aiming the gun unless i hold right click

[thick dome]

AR180 is my jam

and GA51

[icy walrus]

My friends and I did a national guard run where we all used carry handle long barrel M4s with flashlight, no laser, and the most generic Army outfit and the character model with the big mustache

[wide verge]

I dont min max with attachments. Just use what I like. Anything works

[tired jungle]

True. But it also looks good when holding it with a c grip. Currently run it with the vertical and 14"5 for vibe sake

[wide verge]

I'm partial to the avs grip tho

[icy walrus]

mk18 With combat grip, long barrel, and holosun
Not because it's a great setup but because it's the way I run my stuff irl

and I'm too broke to afford an EOTech

[wide verge]

That's a classic setup

[thick dome]

i have a caracal 11.5" piston AR with a aimpoint PRO. dig it

[icy walrus]

void Please add a California compliant AR for the suspects, that would be so funny

[tribal swift]

What is the difference between that and the lvar

[icy walrus]

integral suppressor

[thick dome]

AR180 is 300 blackout and lower recoil

MCX > LVAR due to lower recoil except for if you want the LVAR looks..which is of course top notch

[bronze bough]

LVAR has an integrated suppressor

[icy walrus]

lvar Is also 300 blackout, I believe...?

[wide verge]

Yes

3 .300 rifles in game if I remember correctly

[thick dome]

it has noticably more recoil than the AR180. if the LVARs supressor actually worked it would be unique

[icy walrus]

oh, does it not suppress correctly?

[wide verge]

On semi auto recoil is barely an issue

[thick dome]

it has no effect with regard to suspects. for you, yeah it sounds suprressed

[icy walrus]

odd

oh well, I'm still going to run a suppressed mp7 in short bursts

[sterile prism]

anyone have tips for the my eyes it burns achievement?

[wide verge]

If no one told me that I wouldn't have noticed

[thick dome]

once alot of lead starts flying it doesnt matter much. but if you can down suspects without them shooting alot (and you are supressed) it builds up less stress on the suspects

[runic prism]

Guys wtf I just got one tapped by a dumbass in ANA. I had I think 70% of health 😭

[sullen shell]

i"m trying to do the hanged man achievement on hide and seek, but can i equip my officers with guns and just me using the taser orr?

[silk spear]

Equipment restriction is just you. Other officers (AI and PLayers) can do whatever.

[wide verge]

Some suspects use 7.62. Shit hurts

[runic prism]

It hurts indeed. My hope in finishing the mission crumbled like sand

[sullen shell]

oh so i can just hang back while everyone clears the map?

or do i actually need to tase people

[sterile prism]

you can let the AI do the work

[wide verge]

Do it on casual to find a good route

[covert hamlet]

it’s only integrated suppressors not attachment suppressors

[covert hamlet]

so if it’s “built in” to the gun it’s bugged but attachments like the mp7 suppressor will work

[wide verge]

Yes

I think it only affects the lvar and mp5sd

[jolly verge]

Not a bug, it just guns that have zero horizontal recoil and spread

[grand skiff]

whats this third thing for if the first is flash and second is laser?#🎨ron-screenshots-and-art message

[pliant abyss]

nvg laser

[grand skiff]

ah ty