👮ron-discussion

[wide verge]

Im not even trying this on hard

[grizzled viper]

its not that hard to beat it on standart on S with bots just use new grenade launcher with flashbangs and also give it to bots

[lucid raven]

its only me or "search and secure" is useless most of the time
the AI just keeps like this looking to a wall 🧍‍♂️

[wide verge]

If there's weapons to be picked up they'll do it

[grizzled viper]

Tho that achievement honestly im tired of getting insta headshoots from 1000meters like im giving up until they nerf hard a bit more. Its just to rng for now

[lucid raven]

but at the time of lookong for a civil both teams just stand still

[silk spear]

Are you fully done as in you can end it early or do you need to "rescue all civs" still. Cause if it's that then they won't Search and Secure whole map if there's still 1 untied civ.

[sonic kiln]

Anyone else on Xbox and the graphics suddenly became slightly worse

[silk spear]

ifrc; if you use ANY other equipment at all, nightvision and lockpicking inculded, it qualifies as not using only the revolver.

[pliant magnet]

For S, does incapacitating people also work?

[jolly verge]

Nope

[silk spear]

No. They need to be alive AND conscious.

[pliant magnet]

but I may still shoot them in the leg right? If they remain conscious

[silk spear]

Sure but you're taking the risk of them bleeding out and becoming unconscious.

[jolly verge]

If you want them to die from artery bleedout - sure

[pliant magnet]

Can I get the S Rank endings and cosmetics on Casual?

[idle burrow]

DUDE. WHOEVER DECIDED TO PUT THE ACHIEVEMENTS IN HARD MODE. I JUST WANNA TALK TO YOU.

What the fuck is Hard even bro

[silk spear]

Faster reaction time than humans and also faster fire rate :). Along with more HP and other stuff

[tall arrow]

how do i get the secret detonating ending in a new america?

i detonated the bombs but nothing happened

[idle burrow]

These mfs have faster fire rate? What am I playing Destiny suddenly

[coral tapir]

Tl;Dr : Suspects are now superhumans and they apparently watched too much "Wanted" so their bullet curves as well while they turn their gun.

[coral tapir]

Are you in multiplayer in that case?

[tall arrow]

no

commander mode

[silk spear]

i believe you still need to fully clear out the map instead of ending it early.

[idle burrow]

I did All Gods Burn without Armor on hard and the achievement didn't count

[coral tapir]

Actually no; How I got that specific ending was me rushing without everyone being cleared while ignoring the civvies.

[silk spear]

and no shields+nades I assume.

[idle burrow]

You're not suppsed to use either

[silk spear]

well I'm stumped then lol

[coral tapir]

But yeah I don't get the cause for the guy above either.

[silk spear]

same thing. I'm stumped then. Unless helmets, anti-flash goggles, and gas masks count as armor

[mortal geode]

i think helmets count as armor

[sterile prism]

i did that challenge with a helmet

[bronze sequoia]

Has anyone else had trouble doing the Club solo? Istg it's the 2nd hardest one behind that hotel with the big room in the middle. I've tried so many goddamn times but every time I either get fucked over or a bomb vest gets set off. Like this time I was doing just fine until I came across a bomb vest guy and kept telling him to get down but he wasnt moving. I kept inching closer until ig I was too close and boom

[idle burrow]

Is it because I got C?

[wide verge]

Its not made to be done solo

[silk spear]

Did you fail an objective? (ex. civ died)

[bronze sequoia]

I mean the entire game is focused around teamwork but I've never really had a problem with any of them until now

[idle burrow]

Nope. Completed that one

[silk spear]

He was either baiting you (and you took it) or he was animation bugged and when you got close it triggered the "Allahu akbar" animation, fixing itself for the cost of your life

[silk spear]

Helmets and/or facewear?

[idle burrow]

Helmet WAS on though

[round compass]

can having mods uh make ur rank like downgrade

[haughty oriole]

Does ready or not have connection problems today?

[idle burrow]

I'll try doing it one more time, and if it doesn't work then helmet off

[silk spear]

That probably did it then. Do no helm and facewear.

[haughty oriole]

Did they fix it?

[round compass]

can having mods uh make ur mission rank like downgrade further?

[dense tide]

Anyone know how to get FBI HRT mod?

[sterile prism]

i didnt let ai use grenades either to get that challenge but they did have armor

i pretty much let them clear everything, you just have to stay alive

[coral tapir]

Oh yeah guys, speaking of mods, is it because of the mods considering the missions unofficial score, thus not granting me the golden watch from winning Iron Man without anyone dead? (Got the achievement though, also my mods aren't gameplay impacting at all too)

[idle burrow]

The AI has a tendency to allow the suspects to crossfire and kill civs

[silk spear]

A.I doesn't count for the achievment. They can be whatever. It just needs to be you specifically for equipment specific achievments.

[sterile prism]

you dont have to get a good score

[silk spear]

I think yes? Ironman related achievments are really buggy from what I've seen online.

I can tell you I got everything ironman related in one go w/ no mods, watch included.

[cerulean anvil]

boutta get on and see what this ironman thing is yall are talkin about😂

[sterile prism]

do ittttttttt

[silk spear]

You die your save gets deleted. Achievment: Complete Iron Man base game missions w/o letting single officer die or leave from stress.

Reward: Gold Watch.

[cerulean anvil]

oh😂

[idle burrow]

Wow I got it on first try

[silk spear]

With helmet?

[idle burrow]

Could be because of B rank

[idle burrow]

Nope, helmet was fully off this time. No masks and all

[silk spear]

Bingo 👏 . Glad we got that figured out. Congrats

[idle burrow]

Goddammit Void would it have killed you to add "no helmet" in the achievement description :(

[zinc lantern]

I feel like “no armor” would logically imply no helmets lol

[silk spear]

Assumption of knowledge from other Tactical Shooters unfortunately.

Hell TIL that SWAT A.I have infinite ammo, went in to test and sure enough they have it.

[crude prism]

Void sucks miserably at achievement descriptions

[silk spear]

Most people would not consider a gas mask as armor

[mortal geode]

on "off duty" there is "without armor and a helmet"

[zinc lantern]

I only took my weapons and magazines and had no issues with the achievement. Just a little critical thinking ig

[silk spear]

That's even funnier.

[sterile prism]

i did it with a helmet

[idle burrow]

So it HAS to be a C+ rank then?

[wide verge]

On casual counts? The gold watch is the only thing I'm missing

[silk spear]

Unsure but assume no as achievment says Standard so assume watch also applies same difficulty.

[wide verge]

I have severe shoulder problems so my playing is even more clunky than usual

[zinc lantern]

I heard that the watch is possible on casual, but achievements are on standard. May as well knock them all out at once imo

[jolly verge]

You can use helmet just fine

[wide verge]

I only care about cosmetics

[timid kernel]

I’m glad the haunted house is no longer a vacuum of darkness

[jolly verge]

Grade doesn't matter for this trophy

[idle burrow]

I did mine on E, then C rank

It didnt pop on either attempts

[unkempt granite]

turns out the problem is Neon Tomb

i just did buy cheap buy twice on hard with an S rank on first try

[jolly verge]

Only for the watch. For the achievements standart or hard difficulty only

[cerulean anvil]

is there any new S grade items? i have the gold glasses, floral polo shirt, statue of liberty tattoo & bracelet

[wide verge]

Gold glasses?

[cerulean anvil]

#🎨ron-screenshots-and-art

[silk spear]

It's giving.... "Stats are good, don't care if it's mismatched" XD

[cerulean anvil]

😂

some dude scribbled out F and put S😂😂

[zinc lantern]

There is for S ranking a new America

[tall arrow]

i literally cant detonate the bombs wtf??

[tall arrow]

maybe its to do with the difficulty

[round compass]

isnt it broken cuffs and devil

[tall arrow]

i just get softlocked every time

[cerulean anvil]

what do u get from it

[zinc lantern]

I don’t think you can do it on casual (I could be wrong though)

[silk spear]

No I had it bugged for me too once. force reset.

[zinc lantern]

No, that’s for detonating the bombs

[zinc lantern]

Watch, cutscene, tattoo

[round compass]

i got it after detonating the bombs

[cerulean anvil]

ohh alright, havent played since september i just got this again yesterday😂

[round compass]

OH YEAH the house judge lives in bro has the minimalistic thinkingeven tho he gets paid a ton possibly

[silk spear]

Man lives across a NSFW shop, he either getting paid dirt or he got one hell of a savings account.

[wind creek]

has anybody played boiling point yet

[round compass]

dudes got a ton of images on his wall he on some sherlock shit

[tall arrow]

maybe its cos of graphics, cos i detonated the bomb and then shot the flower guy and i ended up in the prison scene but the building didnt explode

[silk spear]

That's definetly either graphics or bug. Probably bug cause I keep my game on low except render distance.

[round compass]

put the evidence in the bag bro

[tall arrow]

fuck

[round compass]

not graphics just a bug i think

[lucid raven]

i just got wine carriers on S rank in my first game

[somber wolf]

Wine of the carriers is such a good mission

[wide verge]

Gold watch is main game missions only right? Gas station to hide and seek

[mortal geode]

yup

[wide verge]

Gonna do that tomorrow

[somber wolf]

My condolences in advance

[wide verge]

I'll play casual. Don't care about achievements

[split citrus]

My opinion on the last map specifically. Its meh. Just like that Mirage ship map, they expect you to rush through the mission as soon as you hit a certain prompt when the gameplay is not designed that way. Its designed for slow paced gameplay. If the developers want you to find some random dude with a trigger in 3 minutes, remove the limits on shooting first and saying "hands up" later.

And not just for the player either, but the entire team.

[molten wasp]

Just found out one of the actors that was In buffy the vampire slayer passed away

[idle burrow]

Is My Eyes It Burns still bugged? I'm trying to unlock it via All Gods Burn Parking Lot spawn but it's not triggering after 3 suspects down (1 incapped, 2 dead)

[rocky plover]

ye still bugged, they know about it, because it's written in #❗known-issues-and-fixes

[idle burrow]

Got it, thanks!

[rocky plover]

👍

[night shore]

anyone got that ammo vs. armor chart

[runic prism]

Guys, did the new update reduced the suspect's accuracy even in Standard? I'm killing the MLO in ANA easier than before. It's either me or VOID debuffed them

[hexed helm]

Is the new DLC worth it?

[runic prism]

absolutely

[hexed helm]

Alr

[ionic gale]

So should I turn on that jammer or what?

[mortal geode]

yes

[molten wasp]

Might have an idea but It's gonna be stupid, gonna clear the first floor by myself and let my team clear the second floor

[tropic hedge]

Just did Programmed Psychosis finally, hopefully Void never pull another bullshit achievement like this ever again, what an awful experience

[mystic palm]

Does cs gas affects enemies in ANA?

[drifting sparrow]

Okay when is the next update?

[rocky plover]

yes but not MLO ones

[jolly verge]

All MLO units are immune to it

[mystic palm]

Thx

[tropic hedge]

sometimes they are immune to fkin 6.5 creedmore, when doing ANA go for buckshot limb removal or grenade launcher flash spam

[jolly verge]

6.5 is bad

[tropic hedge]

I was hyped for the new battle rifle but yeah, the good ol 7.62 still is whats up

but anyway I started blasting my benelli and removing arms and faces

[coral tapir]

Long live the M1014

AND Supernova.

[hexed escarp]

The 590M will always be peak

[coral tapir]

590M is nice.

Waiting for M14 EBR kit for M14S-16

[hexed escarp]

Waiting for regular ass m14 none of that tacticool shit 🙏

[coral tapir]

More of THE tacticool shit. 🙏 🙏

[hexed escarp]

Total and unrelenting death of all tacticool shit

[coral tapir]

[unkempt granite]

Neon Tomb S rank is going to make me lose it

[hexed escarp]

They could fill up a whole one of those containers with just yo mama

[muted blaze]

do you want some tips on what got me through it?

[unkempt granite]

sure, any advice helps

[coral tapir]

A more correct statement would be that the container couldn't fit yours.

[mortal geode]

[hexed escarp]

My mama is like big and muscular tho urs is fat

[hexed escarp]

And she smelly too

[muted blaze]

I always left the main center area for last, flash launcher and beanbag is what I'd use. the pools area i don't remember what it's called I'd clear it starting from the top then the bottom, my biggest advice is start with the top and work your way around and down

[dark egret]

Guys can the achievements that require S rank be completed in multiplayer?

[coral tapir]

Meanwhile Neon Tomb is already going to make me lose it just from their voice line alone.

[muted blaze]

yes

[coral tapir]

Yeah.

[hexed helm]

can i get some tps on hide and seek for the first time?

[unkempt granite]

I swear this game hates me

[coral tapir]

Relatable.

[silk spear]

In general or a specific thing you're having trouble with?

[hexed helm]

Honeslty general

[unkempt granite]

conveniently when i didn't know i had to reload the launcher some dude opens the front door which was being seen by a swat with optiwand

the moment he says one enemy in the door the mf opens it and shoots him down

on the two seconds that happened NONE of the other 3 swat did shit

[rain zealot]

do mods reduce score at the end of a mission

i have a few mods active and i cant FUCKING GET AN S RANK cuz i KEEP LACKING 5 POINTS

[wind gyro]

mods dont do anything

[wind gyro]

does he know

[unkempt granite]

this game be pulling ANYTHING to not let me win i swear 💔

[rain zealot]

i hate narcos

[coral tapir]

No? I still got S as usual, just did a bunch of missions for that matter.

[rain zealot]

does narcos like

[onyx saffron]

wish people did not make lobbies just to sit and afk forever

[rain zealot]

have anythign that silently reduces points

[silk spear]

5 pt.s but on what?

[rain zealot]

narcos

[unkempt granite]

maybe an evidence?

[silk spear]

Does the result say you're missing ANYTHING at all

[coral tapir]

Honestly Home Invasion DLC doesn't look good or feel good to play around with, maybe Lawmaker is better than the rest I guess.

[rain zealot]

look in screenshot

[unkempt granite]

idk i haven't played any dlc ever

[still perch]

opening doors towards you would be underrated

[rain zealot]

absolutely nothing

look in screenshots

[silk spear]

Suspect/civ got incapacitated somehow then. Friendfire most likely

[rain zealot]

possibly

[silk spear]

Most assurdly.

[rain zealot]

did another mission after that
still a+ but i lacked EVEN MORE POINTS

i gave my ai the grenade launcher with flash so tehy dont accidentally do anyhting

[silk spear]

If any civs/suspect is not concious at the end of it then you lose points.

[rain zealot]

and now its WORSE

im pretty sure everyone was up

[coral tapir]

Honestly hate how incapacitation will not get you S, essentially locking you to Ball Simulator.
(Pepperball and ~Grenades)

[unkempt granite]

if it says soft complete you're missing stuff

[rain zealot]

it did the autocomplete

[silk spear]

pretty sure is unfortunatly not sure sure.

[coral tapir]

Renaming S to L Rank would make more sense at this point lol.
(Launcher Rank)

[rain zealot]

like when you pick up the last evidence it just ends

[rocky plover]

You have 460, should be 490 score for 14 suspects all alive, so 1 got incapped or died

[silk spear]

Nah the screenshot posted in shows everything maxed

[twilit robin]

back in swat 4 there was a massive difference between incap and death of a suspect. in RON all that matters is you mag dump them

[silk spear]

So it has to be a civ/suspect getting knocked out at that point

[unkempt granite]

that is so weird

[rain zealot]

im crying bruh

[unkempt granite]

what mods do you have?

[silk spear]

Yeah them shooting each other sucks

[rain zealot]

toc mute

[silk spear]

Just gotta do it again.

[rain zealot]

cuz he spoke too much on a new america

[rocky plover]

14×35=490
You had 460
13×35=455+5 from a dead/incap suspect=460

[silk spear]

Mods not going to lower score.

[golden laurel]

which vertical grip is best for mk1

[still perch]

Judge does not look like he’d sound like that

[silk spear]

wouldn't civ also lower score by same amount if incapped?

[rocky plover]

Vertical grip or TH grip for vertical recoil reduction

[unkempt granite]

i searched up judge ready or not to see his face and i just saw a body pillow

[sonic kiln]

Anyone else notice the graphics are slightly worse atleast on Xbox since the patch

[golden laurel]

thank you!

[night shore]

yo is there a way to fix my view becoming like. blurry and pixelated when i look down a magnified scope

[rocky plover]

👍

[rocky plover]

Yeah but he has correct points for civvies (all alive) he has 1 dead/incap suspect however

[still perch]

OFFICIAL body pillow*

[silk spear]

Totally lore offical body pillow. Gotta fund the LSPD somehow.

[sick inlet]

has anyone managed all goods burn on s yet? We've been struggeling to get an A. we did it just now, no civs dead, all soft and hard objectives and all suspects killed and only got a B, wouldn't that normally be an A?

[coral tapir]

Oh yeah I almost forgot about the time in my final test where there is an English question telling you to make a sentence relating to company services, I brought Mindjot as the company's name.

[night shore]

did u report the computer

[silk spear]

If you killed every suspect that's a B. You're cop, you need to arrest at least a few of em.

[sick inlet]

currently our strat involves a ton of gas, a sniper and a ton of 9 bangs but i can't see us doing an S anytime soon. We have every other map on S but this one seems to be a bigger task

[sick inlet]

yes we did

[solemn zodiac]

bro why does the game just keep saying "autheticating connection"

[coral tapir]

Also I've heard not everyone gets to use M32A1, how true is this one though?

[silk spear]

Acess to Primary Grenade launcher or no?

[solemn zodiac]

its been days, how is this not fixed.

[sick inlet]

yes

[silk spear]

Pretty sure that's EPIC's issue and they busy trying to drown Steam in lawsuits.

[coral tapir]

What happened? (I don't really follow the news too much)

[solemn zodiac]

stupid

[wind gyro]

epic issue that void has to fix working with epic

[rocky plover]

@silk spear it's always been like that btw not from this update/patch

[sick inlet]

also does anybody know if the RTWC hits heavier than the SA58? up until now that was my go to if i wanted a high damage hit, but I've been using the RTWC now and i honestly can't decide if it does more damage

[silk spear]

Okay assuming you have a 5 stack here. Start parking lot: 2 launcher guys + 1 beanbag/pepperball clear main lobby. Other 2 go into back office, wedge door going down to vault and clear out the back offices on the ground floor.

Then clear upstairs, then vault.

[rocky plover]

No. It's between .300 and 7.62, closer to .300

[coral tapir]

Honestly ~EGS is only good at the fact they at least gave good games, even if so many years passed for it to happen. (i.e. KF2, that's how I got into the franchise for example, or Zero Hour, the game that changed my view on RoN kind of games into a positive light)

[rain zealot]

ALR I CLEARED NARCOS ALONE WITH BEANBAG

[silk spear]

For the infinite ammo testing I posted or the "Authenticating server"? Cause the infinite ammo I only added the patch since they could change it in the future.

[rocky plover]

Inf ammo

[jolly verge]

6.5x48 JHP can oneshot on Standart difficulty on missions without extra health but that it, other stats are worse than 7.62x51

[sick inlet]

today we were only a three stack. one with primary launcher, starting from the busted in window on the left side by the ATMs. shoot a few nades in, sniper takes out the obvious suspects, wedge the doors to the common room, clear lobby. collect all collectibles (key cards and so on), then first floor, then basement. this has been our strat today.

[rain zealot]

NOONE INCAPPED

[sick inlet]

so do I understand that correctly that the RTWC deals less damage than the SA-58?

[rocky plover]

Correct it's very close to .300 blkout dmg

[silk spear]

Then yeah, only because devs could nerf it in the future if they felt like it. I also read it was technically a bug so that's also why I added patch at end.

[coral tapir]

Yup, as expected from the lower caliber.

[sick inlet]

it's really weird, feels almost the other way round. it also feels much more stable than the SA-58

[rocky plover]

Ah I see but wording felt like it meant it was added with this patch haha

[coral tapir]

Also what are your favorite 7.62x51 weapons? Mine is GA51

[rocky plover]

Well recoil wise yes it has much lower recoil than 7.62

[silk spear]

Do parking lot, you can swing right immedietly after entering to get into back offices faster and you can avoid anyone on the 2nd floor by staying behind the recpetion area as you're launching nades in.

[rocky plover]

GA51 and g3a3

[silk spear]

lol fair. I just learned they had infinite ammo TODAY after 400+ hours of giving my shield guy all pistol ammo for his slot 🤦‍♂️Wording was not a top concern of mine

[rain zealot]

FUCKING FINALLY

YIPPIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

[rocky plover]

Lmao, no worries haha

[coral tapir]

W

[sick inlet]

hmm we might try that tomorrow. last time we tried the parking lot was as a 5 stack but before we made the decision to have a dedicated gas man, so we always lost at least one hostage to the gunmen

[silk spear]

Go on a thearpy run and kill everyone now 😈

[unkempt granite]

IM DONE

ugh that was so annoying I finally did it

[sick inlet]

one thing we haven't been able to control yet is the gas bombs laying around. not always, but sometimes the gunmen will shoot the gas canisters killing all civs in the vicinity

[coral tapir]

Reminds me of how I tried to bash a civilian with battering ram for jokes, only for it to not do anything to the guy and I got punched to death, granting me "The Fool" achievement without intentionally getting it, so I went on demon time for 3 matches and killed everyone.

[silk spear]

Flash GLs would do you better combo'd with stinger nades. Flash will instant down/stun suspects, stinger have thicc range and doesn't require suspects to be looking at it.

[unkempt granite]

never touching Neon Tomb EVER 💔

[silk spear]

stares in hospital 😶

[coral tapir]

I love Neon Tomb though.. || Only because I modded the music lolol ||

[sick inlet]

hmm yeah we might try. currently gas works in keeping the gunmen busy breathing which gives us time to pick them off before they come to their senses. but the 9 bangs are crazy efficient

[coral tapir]

Honestly speaking; Neon's Arabs don't even aim well compared to everyone else.

[jolly verge]

Flashbang doesn't require suspects to be looking at it as well

[unkempt granite]

which DLC should i start with

storywise i mean

[woven river]

try the console update one with 2 missions and then go paid dlc 1 2 3

[silk spear]

Ehh give or take. I've had waaaay too many suspects just not care about the standard throwable Flash nade to like it.

[sick inlet]

I'm scared to attempt an S run on that map, but I do have to say it's refreshing actually having to plan a strategy for once again. the last missions we just blasted through when we had our "complete every mission on S" phase. This one throws us a whole new challenge

[jolly verge]

Random stuff on the ground blocking LoS be like

[silk spear]

seconded. Los Seunos story maps are nice and small.

[silk spear]

Civs in the bank be running around in front of gun fire like my helldiver random teamates.

[trim anvil]

anyone having any issues unlocking the toxic fumes achievement i literally just did what the achievement asks of you and it won't pop

[woven river]

every update some achievements break, add it to the pile honestly

[sick inlet]

ong. Had a mf punch me today so obviously i had to empty 2 mags into his Torso. my Teammates were not happy we had ton restart but that was worth it

[silk spear]

Sometimes you just gotta do it again 🤷 . Unless you failed a main objective, then you definetly have to do it again.

[coral tapir]

Stolen Valor looks good... But is it just me or EVERYONE forgets the existence of bomb traps and paid the price for it?

I also did but in a special way; The prompt to equip wire cutters became kicking the door instead right when I pressed the key, marking my end there.

Okay not everyone that's the big word, it's more like majority.

[woven river]

the pier had way more issues for my team than the bank

[wind creek]

y not pepper spray?

[woven river]

bank was very simple for us by comparison

[sick inlet]

hmm the pier we actually completed fairly quickly. we just gassed tf out of every room

[woven river]

they aint immune to it?

[silk spear]

XD. I think it's just cause it's not really a map/situation the people expect there to be nade traps (yes they tune out TOC saying traps in the beginning.)

Like how is gran gran supposed to get around the apartment safely when they nade trapped the fence???

[halcyon snow]

yoo how do i change ai weapon in commander room???
i looked up in locker but didn't found

[woven river]

we also were doing it on hard unfair difficulty so there is also that

[sick inlet]

apart from the fact that i don't have it equipped i found way more pleasure in shooting the man

[coral tapir]

Standing on the ramp of the very left entrance and scoring thugs with M1014 without ever hitting civvies was the best RoN experience ever, and my best impression of Boiling Point.

[tropic hedge]

drop down menu when interacting with the locker, alpho, bravo, charlie...

[silk spear]

Click the drop down menu that says "SELF".

[sick inlet]

ah fair we're in standart. TBF could be that we didn'T gas them and flashed them instead i might have early onset dementia at this point

[halcyon snow]

ohhhh ye thx

[woven river]

ours was opening up from the backdoor, shield guy was soaking aggro and me and my other squadies were dropping with the new creedmoor one by one

it felt very nice ngl

[iron willow]

Still trying to S rank ANA, I see the SWAT AI is actually useless

[solemn zodiac]

Can we not change our mics to push to talk anymore either?

[coral tapir]

Though with Hunger Strike killing civilians faster than Hard Elephant just in Standard (how bruh), it immediately climbed its way to #5 my most hated mission.

I mean I now have an okay score, will get ~S for it later I guess?

[silk spear]

fr. Like damn I'm sorry the burger was undercooked but you ain't gotta be killin people for that XD

[coral tapir]

Also what do you think of Twisted Nerve mission?

[silk spear]

The meth house w/ back tunnels? Creepy af. Even after 400 hours I don't like it cause it give me the jitters XD.

7.5/10 overall

[sterile prism]

im trying to solo ANA on hard and i cant even get to the top floor

[coral tapir]

As for me, while it's in the setting I don't like (drugs and a messed up house, hence you'll see me rating Home Invasion series at a low score), the mission is still fine to play with in overall difficulty terms.. though it is the mission that proves a knife is more dangerous than a terrorist act of bomb vest....

Hate how the fact while Suspects are kissing you, they can still smack you with lead (or a slim metal, depending on what you are against) while you CANNOT do the same.

[mortal geode]

just played Neon tomb, shield on back literally saved my life

[silk spear]

+1 for butt shield

[coral tapir]

The holster-ed shield also saved my life last night on Sinuous Trail when doing Hard S.

My beloved tactical cutting board.

[mortal geode]

i was reloading and someone was shooting at me, so i just turned back xd

[silk spear]

That's just disrespectful XD

[coral tapir]

In my case I was being gunned down right when I was arresting someone, however the guy was right behind me so he only shot the absolutely practical cutting board on my back.

[grim compass]

bwa

[cerulean anvil]

how do yall be taking pics in game

[halcyon snow]

when an ai unlock an new trait is it like an upgrade of his old one?

[silk spear]

No, he jus tnever had it in the first place

[jolly verge]

[halcyon snow]

had wut

[silk spear]

The trait. Notice how it has the locked symbol? It means that's what they have as a trait but you need to do missions with them to have access to it.

[halcyon snow]

i see but why my intimidator became riot control

[jolly verge]

He didn't

[halcyon snow]

i might be crazy then

[jolly verge]

[silk spear]

It shouldn't have. You got before and after screenshots you can submit for bug report if that's the case?

[halcyon snow]

i didn't but now i got info of lock thing thx

btw when u do an perfect run it end automatically no?

[coral tapir]

Now the following statement might feel like I pulled the info out of my ass but...

In Relapse, I needed two headshots to incapacitate a suspect, is that ever normal in any caliber???? (In my case I was using the MP7)

[silk spear]

Yes if you get all evidence, weapons and reportable side evidence TOC was not expecting i.e photos on walls

[silk spear]

Guess you can say the suspect was.....hard-headed. 😎

[coral tapir]

I don't have the recording of it though cause I was too confused by what has just unfolded onto my eyes.

[halcyon snow]

k

[coral tapir]

True...

Oh and on the same mission, my barrel and the laser are right on the head of the suspect who's holding a bomb vest civvie as a hostage, I shot the guy in the head before he starts killing by himself, only to then somehow trigger the bomb??????

[silk spear]

Could be a different suspect nearby triggering it 🤔

[coral tapir]

Like the above statement, I didn't have the recording cause of the exact same reason; too confused to do so.

[wind maple]

After I bring order to chaos, I can’t pick up the detonator on a new America to get the jail ending, is there something I’m missing?

[mortal geode]

speaking of bomb suiciders, if you defuse one he will start chasing you and try to activate the bomb even if he can't (i have video of it)

[coral tapir]

Oh yeah and again on the same mission; The suspect with a bomb vest triggered himself, hitting only me when I was with another guy (bro's legit just a few centimeters away from my side bruh)

Unlike the two above statements this time I got the clip and posted it days ago lol

[jolly verge]

Even if you far away (beyond 50 meters) 4.6x30 AP will deal 35 x 6 = 210 damage, enough to incap suspect on relapse assuming you on Standart difficulty. In any other case you either hit head through some object or confusing headshot with something else

[silk spear]

Your body protected him. Thank you for your sacrifice. Or buddy was just barely out of range.

[coral tapir]

lmao

[earnest nacelle]

yall got any tips for a new player?

just got RoN because it was 50% off

[mortal geode]

don't rush, its not call of duty

[silk spear]

Please remember you are a Police Officer, not Navy Seals.

[coral tapir]

Looks like so many players forget the fact that they are that of a police department, not a soldier thus they went rampage I assume?

[zinc lantern]

Rush like a navy seal 🫡

[earnest nacelle]

so like "slow is smooth and smooth is fast"

[silk spear]

https://giphy.com/gifs/spongebob-squarepants-instagram-nazoom-kJkRuH2gKEodnvJaRy

[mortal geode]

yup

[coral tapir]

Yea~~

[earnest nacelle]

🫡

[silk spear]

SWAT A.I are both smart and dumb at the same time. Treat them like babies with guns instead of fellow officers.

[mortal geode]

perfectly said

[coral tapir]

The time where all the electronic bozos (basically bots) simply stood and left me for dead fending against MLO

[mortal geode]

oh and remember never wear kevlar

[coral tapir]

Honestly never understood the existence of Kevlar in comparison to the rest of the types...

[silk spear]

The time where they were just constantly swapping stack positions instead of breaching and clearing. (just posted in https://discord.com/channels/310075021882294272/991559030919135242 )

[earnest nacelle]

no kevlar??

[silk spear]

Unless you want to challange run 😈

[coral tapir]

LMAO

[silk spear]

3 armor types, Kevlar, Ceremic, Steel.

[woven river]

ceramic full cover is your general best armor. all rifles do well with AP on all armors, remember to use tacticals and gadgets. thats all one needs as begginner honestly

[ionic gale]

OH MY FUCKING GOD

[jolly verge]

It's useless since damage cap bug was introduced

[ionic gale]

AS SOON AS I FUCKING LOOK AT THE VIP SUSPECT, HE INSTANTLY JUST PRESSES THE DETONATOR

OMG

[coral tapir]

Couldn't sleep, now time to boot RoN and then play very shitty in a sleep deprived form.

Let's see how I fare against Programmed Psychosis!

Dies with 0 suspects secured

[mortal geode]

kevlar 50% of dmg reduction, steel 86.5% of dmg reduction but you will bleed often, ceramic 100% of dmg reduction but after 4 hits it will break and have 40% of dmg reduction

[coral tapir]

Picking Kevlar already feels like you're throwing the match assuming you play with people..

[indigo wolf]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[mortal geode]

playing with kevlar is like playing without armor

[coral tapir]

I mean I do this kind of thing but instead of picking Kevlar, I picked Raider P320 instead lmao.

[silk spear]

Yes, but more likely the animation was slower than the game registering the suspects barrel pointing at your fellow officer. Unless theres a hole in the wall. Then for sure that was ricochet.

[inner jewel]

Enable the jammer, the vip will always blow the bombs if he spots an officer unless the frequency is being jammed

[indigo wolf]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[ionic gale]

Where is the jammrr?

[silk spear]

@ me in https://discord.com/channels/310075021882294272/991559030919135242

[indigo wolf]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[inner jewel]

Floor below vip's floor, always
I think its randomly spawning in like courtrooms? of sorts
I'm not sure so you'll have to see for yourself

[silk spear]

I need to see where the suspect was in relation to that shot

Also that looks like replay which may not always be accurate to what actually happened

[indigo wolf]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[silk spear]

I mean you can but again, if that recording is from replay then more likely officer was where the suspect shot but from your replays perspective, it was shot after officer cleared

[north mural]

See if im trying to get the hermit achievement dose it matter if I acadently changed difficulty if I switch it back and redo the missions or do I need to fully restart

[silk spear]

Oh that's a good question. @jolly verge Do you know?

[jolly verge]

No idea, I have not played since they introduced difficulty system

[mortal geode]

i think no

[north mural]

So if I just redo the missions it should be fine then?

[mortal geode]

ye

[rich quartz]

Why does ready or nots shield say Hooverville on the top?

[ionic gale]

Is the detonator on some sort of timer or something where it just won’t work after sometime

Oh wait no never mind. I think my AI teammate just shot him because they’re brain dead idiots

[silk spear]

I think it not working is a bug. You'll just have to try again if you're trying to get ending

[ionic gale]

Are you serious?

yeah I’m going back to payday 2

[silk spear]

Yeah cause first time run I got it work just fine. 3rd time in multiplayer couldn't activate it at all.

[dapper granite]

so, I'm helping a friend get the toxic fumes achievement but he didnt get it. Are there any other items we're not allowed to use? (nvgs, long tacticals or other equipment?)

[viscid thistle]

The achievement seems bugged or its like you say, some stupid thing you cant use thats not clarified in the description

[silk spear]

lockingpicking (maybe on that) helmet+armor (potentially).

Or you just gotta do it again cause your platform said so.

[dapper granite]

I already have it so I cant really tell if its just bugged on his end

[viscid thistle]

Bro how did you get it tell me your loadout its the last one I have it stresses me out

[dapper granite]

oh I have no idea I got it even before dark waters came out

back when gas actually did something

[silk spear]

Well try it without anything but the equipment specified. No armor+helmet, pistol, multitool, utility stuff.

[viscid thistle]

But the achievement came out this update?

[dapper granite]

? I'm talking about the one on twisted nerve

[silk spear]

Different achievment. You're talking about "My Eyes, It Burns". He's talking about "Toxic Fumes"

[viscid thistle]

OHH my bad

[dapper granite]

I dont see why armor wouldn't be allowed tbf. I remember doing it with armor for sure

[dapper granite]

that one I still dont have either

[viscid thistle]

Yeah i got toxic fumes sorry the my eyes achievment is def bugged

[silk spear]

I do too but they could've changed it or bugged it. I dunno but worth a shot.

[silk spear]

If you do that and it still don't pop, bug report it

[dapper granite]

didnt a patch just come out like today?

also multiple achievements have been bugged for years now

[silk spear]

Yeah but a small one. I'm still having some tech issues.

[dapper granite]

I didnt see the pistols not reloading thing get fixed yet

[viscid thistle]

Try maybe without long tacticals

Multitool is fine

Dont use any secondary

And dont yell

[molten gulch]

did they ever fix the substantial pc graphics downgrade after the console release?

[dapper granite]

doesnt look like it

[earnest nacelle]

should i wear the ballistic mask or nah

[mortal geode]

nope

[earnest nacelle]

idk bro these graphics on pc are fire

console looks better tho, i assume?

[dapper granite]

they used to be way better but now some baked in shadows just look pixelated af

[silk spear]

It used to look better before they put it on console. (and also not take 10 years to load a map)

[molten gulch]

no the lighting and textures were better before console release. the details got simplified and they took away objects and stuff.

[mortal geode]

ballistic mask is for when you really have bad luck with suspect ai shooting your head

i personally use gasmask

[lucid sun]

no

[reef spade]

What is better to use, a 9-round flashbang or a stinger?

[dapper granite]

ballistic mask just makes your helmet tank one additional bullet if hit (not including ricochets)

[earnest nacelle]

omg the silenced mcx soothes my soul

[silk spear]

9-bang for smaller rooms. Stinger for thiccer rooms/outside.

[balmy patio]

is targeted manipulation the canon ending of ANA?

[reef spade]

I just have this kind of equipment right now: 4 weapon ammo slots, 4 flashbangs, 2 9-round flashbangs, and a taser

[silk spear]

Personally I'd swap 3 flashbangs for stingers but that's just cause I have preference for stingers larger radius.

[dapper granite]

the stinger's larger radius doesnt really make a difference imo. especially when a small cardboard box can block the entire explosion

[reef spade]

I would use flashbangs, 9-bangs and stingers, but I don’t know how to place them

[dapper granite]

also stuns you regardless of your anti flash goggles

[viscid thistle]

9 bangers are also good for longer throws if takes time to approach the area

[silk spear]

Or 2 wedges. 1 wedge gives you 2 so you get 4, Wedges are important for map manipulation and locking down areas.

[silk spear]

That's fair but that's what it's a prefrence thing and not me saying "YOU HAVE TO USE STINGER OR YOU'RE BAD REEEE" XD

[silk spear]

Uh... you just kinda throw em into a room and pray really

[viscid thistle]

Basically if you know the room has lots of suspects or there is lots of dead space like a tight corner fed room

[dapper granite]

I used to use them exactly for the larger radius before this update but now I just replaced them in all my loadouts for 9 bangers

[silk spear]

9 bangers are cooler anyway lol.

[dapper granite]

I just wish they restored gas to how it was before

[viscid thistle]

Havent tried gas this update, is it better than pre Bp like void said it would be?

[dapper granite]

a little. but the radius is still fucked

[mortal geode]

i forgot ts existed

[earnest nacelle]

how do you finish a mission?

[crude prism]

Compared to being literally nonfunctional, yeah it's better.

Not quite as strong as it was when it was "OP" enough for them to nerf

[balmy patio]

do we know who is the dude that talks to you on the comms on ANA?

[lucid sun]

istg bro i hope there isn't a RoN 2

[earnest nacelle]

how come?

[hardy tendon]

Not if you use launcher and shoot it above them instead of at them

[crude prism]

I'm not the right person to ask about lore stuff

[long fable]

This last map of the new update makes me want to bang my head against a brick wall

[lucid sun]

i don't think anybody wants to pay another $50 for another RoN game tbh

[dapper granite]

the radius can still be kind of inconsistent with the launchers

[dapper granite]

I dont think the price is the problem here to be fair

I don't think I've heard anyone say "I hope they dont make another game because it'll cost money again" before lol

[tacit gull]

I mean the game goes way way below 50 every single sale

[cedar mulch]

I’m a bit curious to see if the next DLC will feature Cartel enemies wearing military helmets; after all, some of their models aren’t being used.

[balmy patio]

damn, is there any website that tracks it?

[crude prism]

I think there's a youtuber that does a good job, isaac (something else here)

[silk spear]

It's probably the VIP suspect at the end.

[balmy patio]

programmed psychosis was a major pain in the butt to get, thankfully the vip only blows it up once you get in LOS with him so you can clear out the suspects on the corners of the courtroom

[errant cape]

What is the best loud out for a ranking New America

[tacit gull]

if you have like 3 flashbangs thats probably enough for a rank

[errant cape]

I meant s rank damn auto correct

[mortal geode]

grandade launcher are good for that mission

[silk spear]

I believe gas/pepperball are no gos cause they're immune to it. Any other nonlethal should work.

[errant cape]

So what is the best utility should I bring shields or what

[mortal geode]

some of them are immune to gas but still worst option

[silk spear]

Are you true soloing or using swat ai/multiplayer?

[errant cape]

Swat ai

My friends rival the intelligence of a lobotomized rat

[mortal geode]

swat ai is no better

[long fable]

Me and brother have been trying to complete it on hard without running the m32 and I’m about ready to give up

[silk spear]

@ ed you in https://discord.com/channels/310075021882294272/921528178789474314 . Choose your variety of long tactical for multiple breach methods. SWAT AI have infinite ammo soy ou don't need to worry about giving them ammo as long as they have one.

[silk spear]

I prefer being infomation gatherer so I run Light armor cermic w/ mirror gun. 6 extra nades on primary, 4 pepperball as back up, 1 c2 and 2 wedges.

[long fable]

Has anyone even completed a new America without running ai

[errant cape]

Thx man

[silk spear]

👍

[earnest nacelle]

my AI swat mates are shockingly competent rn lol

[cerulean anvil]

@upbeat shore how do u take pics in game🤨

[idle burrow]

Has anyone reported how suspects sometimes teleport around when you're too far away? I had this happen in A New America and All Gods Burn when trying to oversee the area

[silk spear]

Like I said, Smart and dumb at the same time. You'll get to some frustration points eventrally trust me.

[coral tapir]

You are innately gambling as you work with the bots.

[silk spear]

I did see someone post in Bug reports of a suspect clipping through the stair walls on A New America. I'd post your own footage too so they know where the clip spots are happening.

[upbeat shore]

Camera mod, custom camera presets, custom reshade preset, patience.

[silk spear]

fr fr. I have 400+ hours experience of commanding bots and they still suprise me sometimes.

[idle burrow]

I'll post what I'm seeing, but the suspects in my case jump back and forth until I spot them and they start aggroing (which is usually too late for me because that's where I start dying)

[silk spear]

Like they're stuttering/rubberbanding?

[idle burrow]

Uhh, think of it like an ON/OFF switch that flips every second and the ON/OFF are two different locations one feet away from each other

[jade crescent]

So…game still broken?

[idle burrow]

Kinda, but it's still fun in its own way so I dont mind

[jade crescent]

Sometimes I regret buying this game

[hushed wasp]

Why would you regret it?
Stop resisting arrest

[jade crescent]

Game now is not the game that i buy in past

[idle burrow]

Oh, while I'm here I should mention that the cameras in A New America also stop working when there's no activity in the screen, which might sometimes be misleading when you just knocked out a suspect and the cam shows a guy standing up in Frame 1 of their death pose

[jade crescent]

Broken, censored, zero communication with players

[idle burrow]

If we're talking about the past it's not as broken as it was

[jade crescent]

Like, I don’t trust devs anymore

[eternal drum]

it changed that drastically since 1.0 huh? i dont remember this.

[jade crescent]

Console patch

[near smelt]

since when have any devs ever been trusted

[jade crescent]

Gray zone warfare

[silk spear]

Current Warframe leads but good rule of thumb is never trust a company with anything.

[jade crescent]

Devs make streams devlogs always at discord talking

[jade crescent]

If dev don’t cut paid content its a good dev

[idle burrow]

I get the no comms sentiment recently, the fact that Hard difficulty is so goddamn stupid in its balancing (which does have a known issue) makes me want to personally talk to VOID Interactive but afaik Ready or Not is the only kind of game next to Zero Hour

The SWAT series are a close 2nd maybe 1st though

[undone bane]

Man, ANA is kicking my ass right now lol.

[eternal drum]

i dont recall anything drastic during console patch gameplay wise aside from new content. and the S rank meta

[timid helm]

Will the devs ever add the ability to change the voice lines again? Or have they just kinda said fuck you to modders.

[jade crescent]

Graphics, broken ai, censorship

[undone bane]

Censorship was the big one

[rich ocean]

censorship?

[undone bane]

People were pissed for a good while, some still are

[jade crescent]

Still mad about it

[silk spear]

That's part of the issue, they don't have competition. Even Zero Hour is not as good presentation wise as Ready or Not imo. If RoN had actual competition, then there would actually be reasons to fix stuff.

[idle burrow]

You can also tell from the Censorship patch the direction went from Human Trafficking to an unknown Crime Organization that does some mindfuckery

[undone bane]

With baby dolls

[idle burrow]

real

[undone bane]

Had to watch a video to understand they werent weird toy makers, but human traffickers and pedos

[jade crescent]

Swat games

[alpine steeple]

MLO are almost as good as FEAR AI tbh

[jade crescent]

Dude just love dolls

[undone bane]

God i forgot about fear

[idle burrow]

also @silk spear if I recall correctly you asked about the suspect teleporting bug, I just found one of my footage and droped it into #🎬ron-clips-and-media

[undone bane]

That shit terrified me as a kid

[jade crescent]

Don’t compare fear ai with ron

[alpine steeple]

i like how they communicate and shit, also ambushing them with their own lasers is funny as hell to me tbh

[idle burrow]

ANA is just Siege Terrorist Hunt but you're the Terrorist

[silk spear]

20 years ago with no dev update does not count. I mean actual competition like Marvel Rivals vs Overwatch. You know Overwatch would've taken their sweet time dripfeeding content if it weren't for Marvel taking players.

[undone bane]

These guys hurt ngl, had to switch to steel plates

[tawdry locust]

Do the Flash launcher count as grenades?

[undone bane]

No

[jade crescent]

Door kickers 2 looks good for alternative

[eternal drum]

Graphics were fixed somewhat, we used to have a terrible problem with LOD meshes in carriers of the vine, remember? Im not crazy on board with UE5 transition but thats only bc of the lighting.
Broken AI, most of it was pretty broken to begin with - even SWAT AI still fail to flash doors opening inwards and suspects firing through impenetrable glass.
Censorship was what Sony and Xbox wanted. Nudity is probably the weirdest one bc what was used looks too clean and dissonant for the wearer(s). It was that or no console port.

[idle burrow]

There was also the implied violence against minors in some levels which was dumb and dumber

[undone bane]

The censorship is even more stupid bc theres worse games on both consoles

[jade crescent]

Outlast

[undone bane]

Outlast trials blows this game out the water in terms of shock factor

[silk spear]

I think it's more them wanting to release it in more countries cause even Nintendo got nsfw games on their system.

[undone bane]

Literally saw a naked dude in half

[eternal drum]

yup but thats not VOID's fault that someone else wanted them to censor the game

[jade crescent]

Trials is so mess-up

[undone bane]

Just doesnt make any sense tbh

[jade crescent]

Like WHO wrote script for this

[idle burrow]

VOID did talk about how managing an uncensored version would be difficult, but censorship is unfortunately still censorship

[eternal drum]

and nobody can say the ESRB is ever consistent.

[jade crescent]

One mod vs Void

[idle burrow]

Unless it's EA and Gambling 😆

[eternal drum]

exactly. loot boxes and dark patterns? nah mate, G rating

[undone bane]

Damnit i wish commander mode has a quick restart

Hate having to close app everytime i die lol

[jade crescent]

No, all officers go red

[tawdry locust]

Does the MGL count as grenades?

For the achievement

[idle burrow]

I know you're trying to tackle the achievement but I never tested it unfortunately. I'd assume it is though since it borrows the same assets

[maiden sparrow]

Anyone else have a ststion where the weapons aren't displayed on the walls in the armory?

[undone bane]

I remember someone else asked that same question and the answer was no

[jade crescent]

I playing L.A. Noir, if this game was released today I think half of the game will be censored

[eternal drum]

hilariously enough, exfilling doesnt affect officer stress, but menu exiting does

[undone bane]

You serious?

[eternal drum]

let me double check rq

[undone bane]

I coulda been doing that this whole time?!?

[eternal drum]

i did ironman by exfilling Relapse twice

[silk spear]

If you got Boiling Point, I'm pretty sure that on purpose cause they don't want the mob getting in and turning their weapons against them.

[undone bane]

Cowards

[jade crescent]

You dont need dlc for new police station

[somber monolith]

even while strobing the shit out of these guys they still manage a way to one tap my shit

though the mods ar ehelping

[maiden sparrow]

Ahhhh yeah...so it's a case of hide yo wife, hide yo kids 😂😂😂😂

[eternal drum]

you only get boiling point station after completing story anyway. sadge, it would be nice if it was progressive

[somber monolith]

before i waste my time can you get psychosis with mods on

[mortal geode]

ye

[idle burrow]

Yep

[somber monolith]

okay bet

[silk spear]

@undone bane @ed you both in https://discord.com/channels/310075021882294272/921528178789474314 but ye confirmed exfilling at mission entrance = no officer stress lmao

[eternal drum]

i had to add to this. Menu exiting is kind of negligible. i had to quit twice before one went up from Content to Anxious

[obsidian fern]

is there any news of adding back pvp yet?

[dense quest]

Anyone have some advice on new america ?

[eternal drum]

wasnt pvp just to flesh out the player controler before suspect ai was introduced?

[obsidian fern]

did they just give up on it forever?

[silk spear]

I thought the removed it cause PvP was not the direction they wanted to go in, given how strongly detail oriented the level designs are.

[obsidian fern]

we need pvp again

but not as it was

[static relic]

only beangbag launchers and 50 caliber 1911s

[silk spear]

Ehhhh do we tho? They still have PvE bugs to fix, I don't trust them to maintain PvE and PvP at the same time.

[obsidian fern]

true but how sustainable is PvE long term wise plus I genuinly think a well done PvP mode would be a really good edition if done right

[static relic]

Any tips for doing 3 letter triad?

[near aurora]

Why is the GA416 recoil so high in game even though it's very low IRL due to how heavy the HK416 is?

[silk spear]

A game is fine to put down for a while lol. Not everything needs PvP to be successful. PLus if you add PvP you're just inviting all the tourist gamers to join and then we'd never hear the end of it 🤦‍♂️

[static relic]

i think devs forgot about it idk
Been like that since the console update iirc
*Not as high as it used to be

[eternal drum]

i feel like pvp would just be m32 flashbang spam and thats it

[near aurora]

😂

[silk spear]

Video Game balancing if it's not a bug thing.

[static relic]

Anyone got any tips for 3 letter triad?

[silk spear]

But like, in general or something specific?

[static relic]

iirc you have to take X amount of suspects alive

[near aurora]

yeah it's such BS I own an HK clone irl it's so smooth

[eternal drum]

yeah avoid the stairwell until the end lol

[sonic saddle]

are the MLO actually MK ultra experiments or am i js mistaken and have tinnitus or smth..

[eternal drum]

yes

[sonic saddle]

how is it known i inquire

[silk spear]

5 suspects min. So just how to get suspects down is the ONLY thing you want tips on?

[static relic]

yeah, i'm not good at bringing people back conscious

[eternal drum]

MLO and Gerard Scott cross over the same topics

[silk spear]

Beanbag shotgun or Primary grenade launcher and you're good.

[molten wasp]

Welp, finally got the tattoo and watch for the good ending, kinda disappointed with myself because It was on casual

[eternal drum]

Judge is also included amongst it, as he is basically another agent of the same mkultraesque methods, which is why Gerard is so obsessed with him

[static relic]

i threw a 9 banger into a room, one suspect surrendered while the other magdumped thir sidearm

[sonic saddle]

is gerard scott the guy from lethal obsession or nah? im not able to remember much

[silk spear]

That's a 9 banger, not a gun/launcher you aim directly at the enemy. Most likely the banger did not reach the other suspect.

[tired cosmos]

is it just me or do they execute hostages a lot more often now, like across the board

I was doin mirage at sea again and now theyre executing left and right, but beforehand it almost never happened

same with a few other missions

[static relic]

i think the 9 banger landed behind them :/

[eternal drum]

yeah thats the guy

[sonic saddle]

ahh

[static relic]

the evil and intimidating gerard scott of bumfuck nowhere

[warm gate]

California dreamin fits ready or not too well sometimes

[silk spear]

Yeah, hense why I'm sayin you should take either the beanbag shotgun or primary launcher so you don't have to worry about throwable nades missing because the line of sight was a pixel off.

[static relic]

Playing california girls as i proceed to miss every single shot in cqc as the rtwc is too long and i'm using a 12x scope 😔

if I give my npc teammates the rotary launcher, do they just spam fire that thing or do they use their sidearm

[silk spear]

spam fire unless you tell them to clear a room and they have a shield.

[static relic]

i mean, i was expecting them to not wield a shield and use a rotary launcher xD
That would be scary

[molten prairie]

Sorta wish I could have the enemy AI of standard with the damage of hard.

[silk spear]

Yes but if they have a shield and you use the "Clear" command, they'll use until they get to the spot they stop in the room clear then pull the launcher again.

[molten prairie]

Way too tanky on standard but I also like the AI balance.

[warm gate]

I just got all the basic white girl music on standby to vibe while killing terrorists ive s ranked all the missions so im good on that

[eternal drum]

they will fire only when ROE applies for it, which means if a hostile remains hostile after stunned they will be flashed again

[weak falcon]

hi, does anybody know the rough range where breaching shotguns still work? iirc the range got reduced in some update

[static relic]

They saw a suspect and fired their rotary launchers...into the back of my head 😔

note to self, use flash goggles when giving npc teammates flash launchers

I'm currently wearing a gas mask

are gas rotary launchers effective to just spam at npcs or flash better?

[silk spear]

Flash. Gas takes time to get to max effective radius. Flash is instant.

[static relic]

imagine how easy the new dlc would be if you could just spam the rotary launcher :/

[molten wasp]

Bloody hell I'm so drunk

I'm not fit for duty 🤣

[static relic]

You're fit enough for duty man

[rich quartz]

Okay but ||why in the bad ending is he in a jail cell? Did his squad mates arrest him after or?||

[molten wasp]

Judge Is shit face on the job

[static relic]

That makes the psychosis claims more believable

[cedar mulch]

Left Behind vs The Hand – it’s set to be a very interesting showdown

[silk spear]

That's cause|| judge pulled the bomb trigger himself instead of Flowerman||

[molten wasp]

Be interesting considering they fought each other If we were talking IRL

[rich quartz]

|| even if you fail to disable the bombs yourself and they go off anyway?||

[maiden sparrow]

Self punishment loadout, the RTWC-6.5 Battle rifle with the S2011 Pistol

[molten wasp]

Just sent a swat guy who's pissed out of his head apprehending every MLO & black sentinel

[silk spear]

|| I recall you HAVE to pull it yourself to trigger the ending but could be wrong In that case throwing Judge under the bus for failing. ||

[still perch]

fucking swan got shanked on the ENTRY FLOOR in ANA bro

and DIED

[eternal drum]

there's absolutely an entity above judge that probably called for that. knowing which option to take in ANA kind of sucks because regardless of which you get nothing different. Wasted potential imo

[molten wasp]

Rip the homie

[rich quartz]

|| so who’s arrests him? His own squad mates?|

[molten wasp]

Just like my Irl relationship

[silk spear]

|| That really doesn't matter but sure. Either his own mates or got arrested on return to station ||

[rich quartz]

I wonder who that entity is, i remember his “friend” in the 3 letter triad phone calls and messages i thought it was the guy with green gloves.. but that makes no sense we still don’t know who this “friend” is of judge

[eternal drum]

maybe it was FISA, they had friction with Judge in port hokan

i havent personally seen the cutscene itself just yet

[maiden sparrow]

I hope they adjust the S2011 Pistol animation, the safety release on draw every time is rather annoying

[eternal drum]

select both weapons at the beginning

oh the safety release, im blind. I bet its to compensate for it being high capacity. the reload speed is really slow too

[silk spear]

I don't think the 5.7 has that tho and it's just as high with a stronger ammo type

[static relic]

i think the rtwc and the 2011 have new unique animations
The safety for the 2011
Magazines for rtwc

[eternal drum]

true, i dont actually know how strong it is though. logically its peppering them with high pen

[static relic]

Apparently the beanbag shotgun is strong enough to hit the helicoptor in dark waters lmfao

What's next, the pepperball can mess up the helicoptor?

[eternal drum]

chopper just whines and seldom helps anyway

thank goodness the game doesnt make the chopper insanely loud considering how close it is

[rich quartz]

If you shoot it enough times your squad mates wil shoot you

[still perch]

whats wrong with the RTWC-6.5?

[somber monolith]

does no crack counteract hard mode

[still perch]

No crack?

[eternal drum]

rtwc is fine, even considerable considering the low recoil

[somber monolith]

yea its a mod

[eternal drum]

there's two difficulties based off of standard and two based off hard iirc. it will say on the difficulty listing

[somber monolith]

:l gotcha

bruh what is the point of this mod then if it makes it harder on hard

[silk spear]

Because some people WANT the game to be harder

[still perch]

is 357 magnum viableo or is it purley for memes

[wind maple]

Am I supposed to get a watch for S-ranking A New America? I only got the duality tattoo.

[static relic]

have you guys seen a random officer carrying npcs away from the scene

[somber monolith]

yes but the mod is designed to make the game easier why would it then make it harder on hard mode

[static relic]

crack for enemy ai mod lmao

[gaunt spindle]

You actually have to engage with the watch at your home after finishing the level.

[wind maple]

SHIT

so i gotta do it again? 🙁

[static relic]

Are you ready for round 2 lmao

[gaunt spindle]

You can do that on Casual though.

[rich quartz]

Who’s making the soundtracks now?

[wind maple]

Oh ok that’s slight

[still perch]

Is the .357 magnum actually viable

[fossil crow]

Medium revolver?

I love the medium revolver I use it a ton

[silk spear]

It doesn't say that in particular? It just says adds selectable difficulty which you can choose which ones. You probably want the "Main File" which is the make game easier one or the "Low Intensity" one which lowers suspect count.

[still perch]

The only revolver in the game is it actually good or just for memes

[fossil crow]

fuck wrong discord

[maiden sparrow]

It takes longer to switch weapons

[fossil crow]

Dawg I have 50 mental disabilities help

[somber monolith]

yes but to get the achievement i have to do hard mode i installed the mod in believing it would make all modes easier or tweakable

[fossil crow]

I just use the pistols personally

I haven’t given it a go
Maybe when I do a GIGN run I might

[silk spear]

If you're looking to do that you're better off just downloading a god mode mod and becoming superman.

[woven river]

what was the cosmetic reward for finishing all 3 boiling point missions again?

[cedar mulch]

Will Los Navegantes del Caos be beaten by Los Locos?

[hardy tendon]

Is not one. You get cosmetics for last mission only I think

[bold estuary]

does anybody know why i cant change the region when hosting a friends game?

[somber monolith]

i want to still achieve something i just want them to be less crackheaded

[hardy tendon]

They took it out

[still perch]

battle rifles are so goated

[somber monolith]

but to be honest having more enmies isnt that bad of a trade off for them doming as fast

[hardy tendon]

Get dev watch?

[still perch]

actually nothing better than dropping someone in 1 shot

[somber monolith]

nope psychosis

dev watch i have no doubt i can do without mods but fucking psychosis is a nightmare

[still perch]

get psychosis like a chud like us

[somber monolith]

how

[still perch]

"us" i say as i dont have psychosis

[bold estuary]

really?

[somber monolith]

my resort is to the crack mod and 50 ae vector

[still perch]

SA58 is becoming my favorite weapon

[wind maple]

Can I get the handcuff watch on casual, too?

[still perch]

just get cosmetics unlocker

just dont flex cosmetics

[wind maple]

No

They’re the only cosmetics I’m missing, I just like having them all

[still perch]

ok then go kick ass

[somber monolith]

yes

[tender mountain]

2 shot btw peak

[still perch]

i one tapped some MLO dude with a gutshot battle rifles are so goated

[tender mountain]

Frfr no cap

[chilly thorn]

i dont like battlerifles

I like the M14 cuz its funny and the Mk17 looks cool but

the others just feel kinda bulky and whatever they have no ammo either

[still perch]

"yo, flowerboy, D-Platoon is rolling up and they all got SA-58s and magnums"

[chilly thorn]

Which magnum

I love the 50 AE

[still perch]

is there more than one magnum

.357

[woven river]

ok but what do we get?

[chilly thorn]

the Grizzle 50 AE the big ass pistol from Dlc3

[warm gate]

A tattoo for s ranking a new america a hancuff for detonating the bombs

[zinc lantern]

you get a tattoo for both; watch for s rank, cuff for bomb

[warm gate]

I only got the tattoo for s rank and the hancuff for setting off the bomb

[still perch]

i use the 357 magnum cuz its tuff

[warm gate]

Good reason to listen to big iron and shoot people

[chilly thorn]

the 50 AE does have the terminator sight tho..

[still perch]

what if we gave SWAT strobe flashlights

[warm gate]

Flashlights should be able to blind people in dark maps

[quaint orchid]

I got a question, I used to be able to use the mag fed shotgun and the launchers, but for the past like month or so I haven't been able to find em, im on ps5

[sonic tendon]

i agree with this

[cedar mulch]

Can The Hand combined with UPF stand up to MLO?

[chilly thorn]

fuck no the UPF is mostly just radicalized teenagers and the hand are average criminals with some training

The only reason the UPF seemed to attack the rig was because of the MLO using that radicalized leader as a plant

[still perch]

how did the fuckin security execute hostages after i arrested sahid

[chilly thorn]

He must have already made the call to kill them off, You can see him signal if with a radio.

[tacit flame]

how is cs gas post update?

[unkempt granite]

is home invasion dlc's mostly CQB?

[chilly thorn]

very good

[cedar mulch]

So, can Crescent Shadow Security stand a chance against them?

Crescent Shadow Security has links to the Qatari royal family and the armed forces

[chilly thorn]

eh idk

I don't really care bout them nobodies lol they ain't cool like the hand or the upf

[still perch]

"cool like the UPF"

[cedar mulch]

Mirage at Sea does indeed feel more like a spin-off story

[chilly thorn]

They look cool

[cedar mulch]

Telling stories from beyond the US

[still perch]

no they dont bro

[chilly thorn]

Gas masks construction equipment guns and shades

[still perch]

none of the terrorists in this game are cool because they prey on innocent people and get their ass kicked by law enforcement

[chilly thorn]

They are fictional.

[still perch]

being fictional doesnt make them not bums

[chilly thorn]

with this philosophy no villian in media can look cool

[still perch]

UPF also just stole rig workers drip

[cedar mulch]

I don’t think UPF stands a chance against Los Navegantes del Caos and The Hand

[still perch]

thats true ig i rather mean defenseless

[cedar mulch]

UPF are portrayed in DLC1 is just like a bunch of street thugs

[still perch]

they basically are

[tender mountain]

BAHAHAHAHA

[somber monolith]

I FUCKING DID IT

[cedar mulch]

Most organisations are able to deal a severe blow to UPF

[somber monolith]

@still perch I FUCKING BEAT THOSE SHITBAGS

[still perch]

congrats

did you get the handcuff??

[somber monolith]

i've had the handcuff

you can do it on any diff

[still perch]

this sahid mf starting to piss me the fuck off bro how do i keep this guy from giving the order to kill when i have to kill security off rip

[somber monolith]

go to him first

[tulip garnet]

how do i even get All Gods Burn A+ rank

[somber monolith]

go to sahids floor first

[still perch]

what floor is that

[somber monolith]

are you tryna do hard or just regular

[tulip garnet]

standard

[somber monolith]

hes typically on the top go around the rear of the ship and you should be able to find him

[still perch]

just enter and clear bro

[somber monolith]

flash launcher

[still perch]

sun deck?

[tulip garnet]

i got B bro

[somber monolith]

yea he should be around the rear or front of the top or second highest decks

[still perch]

B is solid it means you neutralized all the suspects (mostly lethal) and saved everyone

[somber monolith]

a means you saved everyone + almost every suspect

[celest granite]

programmed psychosis makes me want to blow myself up

[still perch]

B is perfectly reasonable especially on relapse and neon tomb, elephant or leviathan

[somber monolith]

unless you want achievements

[somber monolith]

do it with some mods i can send you what i just used

[sterile prism]

literally been trying to get that all day, can't even make it to the top floor

[somber monolith]

i was bullying the ai with a strobe light and no crack

[celest granite]

i got the s on hard but without teammates is just awful

[still perch]

thanks bro i went there and arrested him immediately

[somber monolith]

your welcome

[celest granite]

sure

[still perch]

twas sloppy but i got him in like 30 seconds

[celest granite]

also how did yall get way out west, i beat it with only the revolver but it didnt give me the achievement

[warm kernel]

I'm thinking of running a navy seals inspired loadout any reccomendations?

[celest granite]

no attachments

[celest granite]

there is a gun that in its description says used by the seals (or smth) use it and then maybe a five seven for sidearm

[warm kernel]

Do you know what class it is?

[gaunt nebula]

Performance is much worse since the latest update. Getting random frame drops where I never used to 🤦‍♀️

[celest granite]

assault rifle, i’m about to get my laptop i’ll check rq

[celest granite]

i gotta get an actual gaming computer so bad, like sinuous trail is literally unplayable for me

[still perch]

@warm kernel GA416

[warm kernel]

Thank you brochacho

[somber monolith]

nice

[gaunt nebula]

Well, even a high end gaming PC still isn't enough sometimes to ruin this game properly 😂

[somber monolith]

what timeline

[celest granite]

yea, i wanted to get an actual pc but i prefer mobility

[warm kernel]

Oh i was gonna do like 2007-Now

[somber monolith]

well i mean theres a lot of different changes but if your going for earlier 2000s i'd say the mk18 but if later the ga416 or maybe a arwc

[still perch]

WHY is sahids security killing already after i fucking arrested SAHID

[somber monolith]

timer i think

[still perch]

its not even been TWO MINUTES!!!

[somber monolith]

grim

[celest granite]

yo look in the screenshots channel

[somber monolith]

it might be random

[celest granite]

i’m in the fucking backrooms ig

[still perch]

no wonder i dont play this fucking mission bro

[warm kernel]

Wth

[hardy tendon]

In non lethal section it’s its own category now

[cedar wigeon]

tips for relapse on hard im going fucking mental

[hardy tendon]

Two tats two watches

[hardy tendon]

You had to interact with the special cutscenes in a special way you need to explore

[quaint orchid]

Don't see em

[sterile prism]

flash launcher is your best friend

[warm gate]

What all do you have to interact with?

[hardy tendon]

Click r1 until u find non lethal category

[celest granite]

idk bro

[hardy tendon]

Just explore broooo it’s worth it for the lore

Each intractable has its own voice lines that play

[quaint orchid]

Im not seeing the launchers or the mag fed shotgun

[hardy tendon]

I can straight up tell u but it’s like a whole paragraph of dialogue u miss if you don’t look urself

[obtuse locust]

does anybody know the maximum amount of suspects for hard mode a new america?

[hardy tendon]

No why

[sterile prism]

highest ive seen is 25

[obtuse locust]

i just did programmed psychosis and had 25

[sacred bridge]

The helmets and mic clip through the gas mask

[sterile prism]

how did you do it ive been trying for so long

[obtuse locust]

it was literally the first run i made it to the 2nd floor

i died like 15 times on the first floor, but i just locked in and alt-lean peaked doorways with buckshot

[hardy tendon]

wtf yeah do you u have the deluxe edition

[sterile prism]

i cant get it for the life of me

i get to the top floor and i just die

[hardy tendon]

I want to get it

[obtuse locust]

low key ran out of buckshot at the very end because i decided to swap some for 2 pistol mags and it was ALMOST a terrible mistake

[sterile prism]

you can refill your ammo up there!

[obtuse locust]

wait really

[hardy tendon]

Did u know there’s a box for Ammo on back stairs it’s like suitcases

[warm kernel]

Is my fit seals enough?

[obtuse locust]

no i just decided that i was screwed and whipped out the ol s2011

[hardy tendon]

Lmaooo

[hardy tendon]

Pants and shield wack

[buoyant mural]

whats a slot mod that works up to date?

[hardy tendon]

#🔧modding-chat

[obtuse locust]

still have yet to get sleeper agent

[warm kernel]

Well what do you reccomend for pants

[quaint orchid]

I didn't know I needed it, I had them all before

[wind maple]

I had 26 in a multiplayer lobby once, that’s the most I’ve seen

[still perch]

wtf kind of mission ranking is E

bullshit grade

[hardy tendon]

I’ll post it

[obtuse locust]

i swear I kept getting the upper-amount of suspects when trying to solo it

[winged python]

Yo is it a common glitch for the iron sights to equip when putting on scopes? I cant equip any evenb the xe sight

[hardy tendon]

Yep

[still perch]

Are there any mods that make my AI more trigger happy

[tired geode]

i am severely traumatized by the neon club dispatch call

[still perch]

Take it out on the suspects

[tired geode]

oh i refuse to take s rank in neon club

[cinder gyro]

Bring lethal order to chaos

[hollow veldt]

does scope zoom work yet?

[hardy tendon]

It’s been workin

[tired geode]

i was an hk fan but i think imma switch over to g36k

[hardy tendon]

HK51 supremacy

[outer aurora]

Advice for the last floor for programmed psychosis? Ive had like 4 no hit runs in a row for the first floors then i just get one tapped from idek where once i get to the last floor

[crude prism]

Rewire the cameras at the start, added to the team-cam list will be 3 for the top floor, which include the deep open rooms on either side of the area.

Helps a bit, but you still have to try and pixel them through all the garbage clutter

[simple cove]

Do anyone do New America in a kind of BOPE mode after completing that mission

[cedar mulch]

Is the SWAT AI stronger in ‘Hard’ mode?

[crude prism]

Only slightly

[still perch]

stop the killing by killing

[hybrid karma]

The SWAT AI is friggin stupid no matter what

[still perch]

what is the best sidearm in the game that isnt a magnum

[jolly jackal]

Does the Rotary launcher exist on consoles?

We have a console member in the stack but he cant equip any rotary launcher, the launcher category isnt there for him

[grand meteor]

these bots on this last fucking level are shit.

the AIs are litterly impoosible, you cant shoot through walls or doors or even windows in this level for some reason, these guys are all in fucking juggernaut suits, they will litterally walk towards you and open the door as you check it, i litterly was mirrioing a door and he opened it and just shot me

[still perch]

prescott is fucking bald

[gleaming knoll]

Are the light sticks in the memoriam supposed to represent anything

[jaunty cloud]

anyone have tips for getting the 2 headshots over 30m on leviathan?

[cedar mulch]

They should enhance the SWAT AI, for example by setting the accuracy to 2.5 and improving its reaction speed.

[grand meteor]

DUDE FR, MY OFFICER WAS GETTING SHOT BEHIND HIM AND TOOK HIM FUCKING 4 SECONDS TO LOOK BEHIND HIM TILL HE WAS DEAD.

[jaunty cloud]

MKV 1-2 shots enemies, my personal favorite is the M45A1

[grand meteor]

LIKE DID I GET FUCKING KANGAROOS FOR MY SWAT?

AND WHY DOES IT TAKE THE WHOLE MAG TO DROP SOMEONE TO THE FLOOR, ARE THEY FUCKING MADE OF STEEL?

damage needs to be pushed up

[still perch]

use battle rifles w/ AP

[grand meteor]

I DO BRO

DOES NOTHING

[still perch]

oof

take mirrorgun and always use C2 or a flashbang if theres a suspect in the room it helps a lot

[grand meteor]

they need to fix this ai for the last mission, bots are fucking impossible to play with.

i do, i run mirror and wedge with flashbangs

[cedar mulch]

SWAT AI is a real idiot

[grand meteor]

one of my bots got stuck in the vault door.

[cunning fulcrum]

Unpopular opinion, I think ai in this game are reallt smart, keep in mind making ai is not just selecting intelligence level on a slider

[grand meteor]

the suspect AI is too op

i litterly closed a door, (didnt make a noise at all) i was gonna mirror it, a fucking suspect runs up, opens it, and kills me.

[cunning fulcrum]

The suspects are in their home, they know the good places to ambush

[hybrid karma]

They're really not. They turn their backs to open doors that haven't been cleared. They see a suspect shooting at them 2 feet away and tell them to put their weapons down. They stand in the open and expose themselves to gunfire.

[grand meteor]

if i see someone with a gun im shooting them, idc

[hybrid karma]

The SWAT AI has the IQ of a 5 year old

[grand meteor]

there warning was me arriving.

[cunning fulcrum]

Then make better ai

[hybrid karma]

I'm not the devs

[cunning fulcrum]

It's probably not easy

[hybrid karma]

That's their job

[sterile prism]

if they can make the enemies this accurate they can make our teammates more accurate lmao

[hybrid karma]

I beat ANA with one friend but the AI can't do it

[sterile prism]

they purposefully make our AI kinda bad so it's more of a challenge. otherwise the game would be too easy

[hybrid karma]

There's no reason a 2 man team should be better than 5

They could at least make the AI make smarter decisions

[cunning fulcrum]

Multi billion dollar corporations can't make a chatbot with situational awareness, and clearing rooms is all about situational awareness

[cunning fulcrum]

It's hard to make ai take good decisions

[sterile prism]

if our AI was as good as you want them to be, they'd play the game for you and you'd never lose

[hybrid karma]

Strange, Ubisoft made better AI with the old Rainbow Six games

Raven Shield had smarter AI and that game is more than 20 years old

So it's really not that hard

[sterile prism]

it's not about it being hard lol

they want the game to be hard

[fossil crow]

This game is so damn annoying to tab out of

Sometimes it full just crashes and I have to restart my pc

[grand meteor]

k thats just a you issue

[eternal drum]

play windowed

[fossil crow]

Thanks for the help man

[grand meteor]

ofc