👮ron-discussion

[onyx dome]

I though it was shorter ngl

[rocky plover]

it is shorter than G3, but the GA51 is even shorter

[onyx dome]

ok thanks

[rocky plover]

👍

[sick remnant]

idk bro i just enter with a AR15 or ARN180 and shoot everything with vital signs that has the chance to hurt me

[rocky plover]

arn180 with jhp is very good, very versatile

usable on 23/26 maps

[sick remnant]

rust belt suspects wear armor??

[rocky plover]

nope

[sick remnant]

jhp time

Their heads wont be a thing once i equip jhp

[rocky plover]

.300blackout JHP penetrates till L3 armor anyways, so only need AP for L4 armor which is 3 maps

[trim wing]

Real, just use any 5.56 with ap to two shot to the chest any armor on any difficulty on any map besides a lethal obsession

[sick remnant]

whats the maps with l4 rmpr

[rocky plover]

the problem with that is if you hit limbs it takes a lot of shots

[sick remnant]

im assuming valley of the dolls is one bc these mfs 🥀

[rocky plover]

VoTD max is L2 armor

[rocky plover]

elephant, leviathan, sins of the father

[sick remnant]

oh

[trim wing]

Sins of the father, neon tomb I believe for one suspect, uhhhhhh

[rocky plover]

ye neon tomb, just the 1 guy which is the main suspect

[sick remnant]

i completed elephant hard

i got a d

[trim wing]

One suspect on lawmaker

[rocky plover]

and 1 guy on law maker

[trim wing]

Mhm

[rocky plover]

but since its 1 guy i dont really count it

so just watch out for those 3 maps

[sick remnant]

whats a strat for votd

I mean rust belt

I cant even get to the house

[rocky plover]

the beg part is the worst part ngl, can't see shit with lighting lol

[trim wing]

P90 and full auto :D

[rocky plover]

after you get to the house, it's pretty easy

[trim wing]

There's only two civilians from what I remember, and if you don't care much about grade, I think you can still get a C by just shooting every suspect preemptively and completing every main objective

[rocky plover]

civ varies from 2-3 yea

[sick remnant]

so js wallbang everything and hope theres not a civillian behind a wall

wait actually thats kinda fire idea

[chilly thorn]

I refuse to bleieve this game doesn't penalize you for wallbanging someone

thats absurd T~T

[surreal pelican]

It's useful for me

[chilly thorn]

Don't expect it to make you invincible.

[surreal pelican]

^

It doesn't cover your body fully, your legs are still exposed

Stolen Valour is the closest thing

[unkempt chasm]

I’m trying to get my CEO to hit up the developers to get our product in the game😂 he said that’s actually a dream of his
Added DLC with Project7 armor would be 🔥

[cursive basin]

guys, are the dlcs worth it, and if so, which one do i get first?

or generally which one is better

[long fable]

If you’re on console all of them because you run out of gameplay fast and god knows when the next update and dlc will drop

[cursive basin]

im on pc and buying them with keys is pretty cheap

dark waters looks cooler but i heard people say the home invasion maps are better

just finished the base game after having it for 5 years lol

[covert aurora]

Both are fun

[cursive basin]

eh youre right 3 dollars per dlc is not that deep

[quasi coral]

I'll personally say Dark Water and Home Invasion missions fit into different categories

Dark Waters feels more "Counter-Terrorism" and Home Invasion is well, home invasions

Personally, if you like cosmetics, Home Invasion is the way to go, they got wayy cooler shit (ERT Carbon Helmet, essentially cooler darker varieties of the OPCR FAST LE High Cut Helmet[Default helmet])

Dark Waters offers more old kits like that weird Eli-Tec helmet, but the missions there I found are way crazier, in a good way

[cedar mulch]

Is UPF the protagonist of these two DLCs?

Mirage at Sea and 3 Letter Triad did not even feature promotional animations.

[covert aurora]

upf is in i think lawmaker and rig

[atomic pulsar]

What is your favorite mission?

[covert aurora]

Twisted nerve/Dorms

I like the horrorish theme they give

[atomic pulsar]

Mines probably the vineyard one

[covert aurora]

Carriers of the vine

[atomic pulsar]

Yeah

Like the scenery

[quasi coral]

The UPF is a prominent antagonist, but not directly a primary antagonist I'd say

[cedar mulch]

But DLC2 only has the promotional animation for Upf.

[covert aurora]

Yep i know

They can still pop up afaik their not dismantled

[cedar mulch]

Therefore, DLC2 lacks a primary antagonist faction.

[cedar mulch]

Apart from Los Locos and Spider being the main antagonists, are there other main factions? Mlo has yet to make an appearance.

[covert aurora]

Not really, ron never really had one cause its always jumped from one group to another.

One min, its spider then los locos, then the left behind.

Etc etc

Which kinda makes sense for a game like this imo

[cedar mulch]

I reckon Los Locos count, as they've appeared in nearly all instalments except DLC2.

[covert aurora]

True

[stable elm]

Lads, what do you think about this.
As we know, there might be involve vigilantism acts between crimes so do you think it would be interesting to have a story mission where you have a vigilante suspect?
Like for example, there is an active shooter and there is a civilian who picked a gun, and is trying to fight back the suspects, and your mision is to arrest them.

[solid patio]

We got an eta on the next update?

[covert aurora]

soon™

[solid patio]

Wonderful

[chilly thorn]

Father who trys to attack a gang due to indoctrinating his son (Prob the NeoNz faction) unknown to the father in the middle of a deal, accidently sparking a gang shootout making everything worse.

[stable elm]

YES!, or for example an active shooter scenario where 1 or more civilians managed to beat one shooter and try to take the others criminals

[versed hedge]

#🎬ron-clips-and-media Is this good quality guys

[olive peak]

Is there a way to check which missions I have credit for completing on hard (for the game achievement)

[willow solstice]

the feeling of hearing "we got company" right behind me while playing solo

[quasi coral]

Man I'm really hoping that one of the new weapons is going to be the HRT 11.5" SBR

[olive peak]

Dude there is no way they are adding a proper sbr 🙁 all the short barrels have braces

[quasi coral]

I feel like having this set around 2025 with FISA(FBI) related cosmetics but not having the epic MLOK 11.5" is such a miss.. Although the SR-15 is still very beautiful

[quasi coral]

I know maen

But if we beg enough it'll work 100%

[olive peak]

I would love a scope with 2x zoom and by scope I mean a reflex magnified that doesnt function like the 1-4 scope

[quasi coral]

I wonder what sights would be 2x and not look like a dropped acog

[olive peak]

There are mag lenses for reflex

[surreal pelican]

Probably Neon Tomb

But I've been replaying a lot of Greased Palms too and a little bit of Relapse

Either way, Stolen Valour earns the title of Greased Palms too but for a very different reason

They take hostages fast AF

[worldly root]

23 mbps too

blud in the third floor with that one lady always

[surreal pelican]

23 mbps for me they don't really take hostages that fast

[surreal pelican]

I go clear third floor first in 23

[worldly root]

for me its always 23 mbps, thank you come again, stolen valor and hunger strike

[surreal pelican]

Seperate breach on Level 2 and 3 via side stairwell

[surreal pelican]

Hunger strike has active shooter countdown timer too

[sick remnant]

how to unlock officer traits

[surreal pelican]

Play missions

[quasi coral]

They take hostages every chance they get, for me

[sick remnant]

complete them?

[surreal pelican]

It's worse on Stolen 😭

Literally as soon as one of them sees you, they snatch

[surreal pelican]

Ya

[sick remnant]

🥀

[quasi coral]

ON COD man

Atleast 3 hostage taking callouts from TOC

[sick remnant]

ig its losing my 2 special SWAT or keeping them as collection

[quasi coral]

The second a shot is fired, did they train for this shit?

[sick remnant]

whats a tip for the tunnels inbrust belt

[worldly root]

dont get lost

[sick remnant]

🥀

i dont but the suspects

[quasi coral]

Chemlights, while undervalued, helps a lot with knowing if you've entered this area or not

[sick remnant]

mf they just go around and full auto me from the dark

[quasi coral]

You play solo?

[worldly root]

make light with flashbangs

[sick remnant]

nvg has not helped me

[quasi coral]

As in, multiplayer with no multi, player

[sick remnant]

Ye only with ai

[quasi coral]

They'll watch your six, make sure you get em to fall in often, if they bug out and not breach 30% of the doors, I recommend you set them to fall in and cover you while you breach

[surreal pelican]

Petition for chemlight colour mod

Like changing the chemlight colours to smth else you want

[quasi coral]

A green and yellow option would be so cool

Or RED

[worldly root]

uhhh arent they already green

[surreal pelican]

MK18 is very fun to use too. Back to the basics, the rifle that everyone first used

[surreal pelican]

Or even orange, hear me out

[surreal pelican]

If they allowed us to bring multiple colours, I'd bring red and green

Red to mark uncleared (tho kinda unproductive since I'm already using green to mark)

Green to mark clear

Anyways,

Hospital scrubs when?

[cedar mulch]

Why are there so many members of Los Locos and the Russian mafia?

🤔

[surreal pelican]

I think I can't say it here

But if going by logic;

Los Locos border crossed via the tunnel, Russian mafia probably did it by business establishments/fronts

[cedar mulch]

The Russian mafia were summoned by Spider and Los Locos.

[covert aurora]

Personally i think theres another pulling the strings for everything

[cedar mulch]

This is merely a conspiracy theory.

[surreal pelican]

Time to call the SCP Foundation

[covert aurora]

[sick remnant]

my 2 special traits officers resigned from duty

forget that B or A

We getting a C

[chilly thorn]

Dorms, Stolen Valor, Narcos, and Neon Tomb

Dorms is a near perfect map, Incredibly creepy, amazing looking, plot that makes you feel like a piece of shit. It has it all.

The music too.

[covert aurora]

100% agree with this!

Minus the pos part, but it generally has that horror vibe

[chilly thorn]

how can you feel like a good human being playing a map where to plot is displacing homeless people T~T

[cedar mulch]

The dorms are a mad cult. They've lost their minds.

[covert aurora]

Thats true.

[chilly thorn]

Doesn't mean they aren't people, and we don't even know if they all are part of the christian beer worship thing.

Most people rushed into the building for shelter after the hurricane

the only reason they attacked the cops is because some of them wanted to commit sbc

[cedar mulch]

That building is actually not quite right; there are cult elements involved.

[covert aurora]

From what i gather espically within #🪹the-sepulchre-arg clues that were given something more is happening there

Something about being used as a testing site and with 4L1.

[cedar mulch]

This building may have been used by a cult for sacrificial rites at some point.

[chilly thorn]

Meaning that they were more victims of circumstance

The MLO used them as labrats thats probably why some went crazy

[covert aurora]

I agree

Wrong place wrong time

[chilly thorn]

Also again all the music in this game is amazing but that distorted air raid siren for the combat stinger of dorms is actually terrifying

[cedar mulch]

However, in terms of gameplay, this map is the worst-made one in DLC1. It offers absolutely no enjoyment whatsoever.

💩

[chilly thorn]

its incredibly Silent Hill Toluca Prison

[covert aurora]

100%

[chilly thorn]

Thats just wrong lol its really chaotic and fun like stolen valor

I love maps where its hard to understand what the fuck is going on

[covert aurora]

Stolen Valor hard makes me wanna cry

[chilly thorn]

Stolen Valor is definently the most chaotic map this game has gotten since the hotel

[covert aurora]

kill one suspect "the suspects have taken a civilian hostage" x5 in arow

[worldly root]

bro for me, they see me and kill a hostage

[covert aurora]

That too

[worldly root]

its the only map i havent completed solely because on every run i do, they see me and someone gets executed

[cedar mulch]

The 213 Roller Gang may be an affiliate of Los Locos, with several of their models being nothing more than reskinned versions of Los Locos.

[covert aurora]

Possible

[worldly root]

213 gang can get carpet bombed we dont need that neighborhood anyways

[chilly thorn]

213 are crazier then los locos lowkey

"ONE LESS MOUTH TO FEED!"

[cedar mulch]

Some models have merely been recoloured from red to yellow, such as the knife-wielding 213 gang members, which are entirely reused assets.

[chilly thorn]

Smart reuse of assets

They have different head models though

One thing I find strange is that the hooded 213 members only spawn outside for some reason

[covert aurora]

I mean, i am not susprised by it.

[chilly thorn]

I'd take reuse of assets for the sake of more enemy model variety any day

Different variations are great

I hate how the streamer map just uses mostly the same models as gas station

(even though those were supposed to be unique people)

[covert aurora]

I mean, reuse of assets seems common practice within game deving

[chilly thorn]

Streamer was clearly rushed

Case Point 1: AI art (WHY IS IT STILL HERE)

[covert aurora]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[covert aurora]

Capcom does it with RE, RGG does with Yakuza/Like a Dragon

[chilly thorn]

That console money could comission a lot of artist...

[chilly thorn]

Bro have u seen how bad Kiwami 3 is

[covert aurora]

Not really? Looks fine to me, i never really played the original

But do fill me in

[chilly thorn]

We only have the demo so far but its just really lazy

and one of the face models they chose for their characters is a rather.... not good individual

Like amos voll type not good

[covert aurora]

Oh.

[vague meteor]

So um, I am trying to do the Toxic Fumes achievment and in trying to do that, I have realized that CS Gas isn't working like at all... I played a little less than a year ago and it was way different... the suspects aren't even coughing or anything... am I crazy or did it get nerfed or is bugged?

[chilly thorn]

Its a lil buggy right now, grenades still work pretty decently though. It will definently get patched next update dw.

[cedar mulch]

The weapon used by the petrol station suspect in the 2D concept art was an extended-magazine Glock and a civilian AR rifle. In the game, it became this peculiar choice of the Calico960.

[chilly thorn]

uhhh

okay

I do believe some of the weapon choices in this game are rather weird

for example the makarov appears more then the glock

(on suspects)

[covert aurora]

Black market

[cedar mulch]

In the game, their weapons become a jumbled mess. In Art, the four of them should have fixed weaponry: a civilian AR, a revolver, and two Glocks with extended magazines.

[chilly thorn]

I hope we get machine pistol suspects in the future, Mac10, Modified Tec9s and Switched Glocks, Mini Uzi, Skorpian.

All fit the "criminal" vibe

Still confused why we don't see long double barrel or bolt action rifle suspects

[covert aurora]

Good fit for Carriers

Imo

[chilly thorn]

Good fit for methhouse honestly they are rather easy for civvies to get.

[covert aurora]

True

[chilly thorn]

Also this will sound absurd

but please heavenly lord above grant us a chainsaw suspect

it can be like a special little guy on one map idc

It would be such a horrifying scenario

There shoulda been one on dorms tbh...

[covert aurora]

https://tenor.com/view/chainsaw-man-resident-evil-4-resident-evil-4-remake-re4-re4r-gif-9376210062601619903

[chilly thorn]

I do wish too see some unique suspect types

only ones I can think of are the LMG suspects and Bombers

oh and the scouts on oil rig

I know there was some cut concepts for foliage covered cultist on carriers

too bad carriers was rushed to all hell

[covert aurora]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[quasi coral]

I love the MK18, but they recently butchered the holding animations so they clip into the PEQ-15(Except with the vertical and no grip)

[quasi coral]

I think it would just be a single locked chemlight colour

[surreal pelican]

Another reason why flashlight goated

[surreal pelican]

Yeh

[quasi coral]

Just a flashlight is kinda ugly for me ngl

[chilly thorn]

have you noticed that whenever you do the door opening animation their hand will default to the no attachment pose then awkwardley snap back to holding the grip

it pisses me off so much

but this has been present bug for a while I believe...

[marble oyster]

its weekend

gonna be spending the entire weekend all day every day and get the fuckin ironman run

[quasi coral]

Think it's just an underlooked animation error

[quasi coral]

Good going Officer

And I gotta ask, quick question, which show does that little alien come from?

Been searching for eons, I'm gonna die not knowing who my favorite curry eating green goblin is

[marble oyster]

sgt frog

[sick remnant]

lil bro getting the jhp 7.62 treatment 🥀

[quasi coral]

HOLYY SHITT

Thank you so much, I wish you a very Ready experience 🙏😭

[sick remnant]

if he had a silent chainsaw or hides in corners and starts It as soon as you enter It would be something of a threat

nothing a mirrorgun my goat would fix tho

what are yalls favorite long tactical

mine is mirrorgun for its peeking and shield since i can just peek without getting killed by 2 ak entrenched alerted suspects with l4 vests

[chilly thorn]

Just imagine the expierence of stepping into a dark hallway then hearing a chainsaw start revving up and in the corner of your eye you see a dark figure charge past to the other door way, hes coming for you.

[sick remnant]

the humble flashbang and stinger launcher

unless hes resistant to pain

[chilly thorn]

Probably will be cracked outta his mind

[sick remnant]

if not bros gonna kill me

prob

[chilly thorn]

I think it would be fun and scary

and this game sorta needs a stronger variety of suspects

[sick remnant]

bro wearing a homemade armor

[chilly thorn]

Give us a North HollyWood Shootout heavily armored suspect

or something

[sick remnant]

There should be more active shooter cases in game tbh

as far as i know only elephant is active shooter

give people a taste of how scary are active shooters

[chilly thorn]

Neon Tomb is the aftermath of a shooting

all the maps related to shootings are really its meant to give you the feeling of being too late

[sick remnant]

yep

ur just there to prevent a fucked up situation to fucking up even more

ur not a hero just preventing more damage

not even elephant gives u the chance of feeling ur in time since theres already dead bodies

[chilly thorn]

and sometimes your causing more damage.

[sick remnant]

cough cough 57 civillian casualties

1300 suspects killed with only 570 suspects under custody

the real widow/orphan maker

[chilly thorn]

I meant more of the maps related to hurting those in poverty lol

[sick remnant]

we leaving these kids hungry 🥀

i mean

the crime is due a economic deppresion

Most are robbing just for some cents

And they will do anything to bring dinner to their houses even if It means killing someone doing their duty

however i do not care and i will use 300. Blackout on that suspect with 5 kids and a loving wife

[chilly thorn]

It is just a game after all but I still tend to not shoot suspects

its kinda sastifying to interact with the games systems to avoid combat

[sick remnant]

i js dont shoot to avoid roe

[chilly thorn]

(Its almost like thats the gimmick of the game)

[sick remnant]

its like that

lethal force is always last resource

[chilly thorn]

I do wish ROE was stricter

it should be tied to the difficulty

hardcore should have very strict ROE

[sick remnant]

how so

[chilly thorn]

You cannot shoot a suspect unless they are pointing at someone else or you type roe, like swat 4.

[sick remnant]

pretty much thats gonna get u killed most of the Time so people would choose any less lethal

like beanbag or pepper pistol

[chilly thorn]

Beanbags should be able to get unauthorized use of force imo

like you can shoot someone who is actively hesistating with no punishment

WITH GUNS TOO?!

[sick remnant]

bro just wanna suffer if the devs see this 🥀

however no updates in about like 7 months

taser kinda the oneshot if u put it that way

[quasi coral]

It has been lowered recently due to complaints about ROE being too strict, I personally think this is a bad idea

[chilly thorn]

I think it should be like this
Casual: Current ROE System
Standard: No shooting unarmed suspects or suspects not actively in combat at all
Hardcore: Swat 4 style

[sick remnant]

whats roe in swat 4

[quasi coral]

Standard already has that ROE set

[sick remnant]

like

[quasi coral]

The USIA silences another poor citizen, just tragic 💔🙏

[chilly thorn]

You cannot shoot someone unless the gun is pointed at someone or you, even if they attacked you before.

[sick remnant]

only if they shoot first?

[chilly thorn]

No like

in RoN suspects go into like a combat mode where all ROE basically becomes null and void and its stupid

[sick remnant]

ts could kill VoTD sniping from the second floor

[quasi coral]

Because they have become an active threat, once they start to hesitate you will be charged with unauthorized like the usual(Pretty sure)

[sick remnant]

or third

[chilly thorn]

Basically you can only shoot if they are aiming their gun at you or another.

[sick remnant]

I like VoTD sniping

[quasi coral]

I'm gonna have to test it myself though

[chilly thorn]

You can shoot someone while hesistating with no punishment in LSS

You can shoot a suspect who doesn't even know you are there with no punishment

[sick remnant]

me praying they dont add more dlcs since i already have the 4 dlcs

[quasi coral]

Really?! I will have to try this out myself, but I fear you may be right from experience

[quasi coral]

Starving the actual game rn 😭

[sick remnant]

true

[chilly thorn]

DLC3 is coming soon hopefully

[quasi coral]

HYBRID SIGHTS!!

[sick remnant]

arwc is ar15 irl right?

[chilly thorn]

they most likely are scared of doing like anything since their fans are really goddamn mean.

[sick remnant]

i just want more active shooters maps

[chilly thorn]

I could see one on a underground subway after a massive gas attack conducted by the hand sorta a send off for their ideology as we know they are willing to die to spread their message.

The hand are so fucking cool besides the killing people part they look sick as hell.

[quasi coral]

Yes, it's a variant of the AR-15 called the Wilson Combat SBR Tactical

[sick remnant]

its pretty fun in elephant cuz chat i got a D bc the last mf found a civ and gunned him down

then i just magdumped His head out of rage

[quasi coral]

They look like your run on the mill T organization

Just a little more city aesthetic added

[chilly thorn]

Im thinking of the guys in the yellow mask

[quasi coral]

Truly one of the forces of authorization of all time

[sick remnant]

my second reason for active shootings are police targetting poor areas

[quasi coral]

They do look cool, gotta admit

[sick remnant]

theres those who seek revenge for their family

then js shoot a place or a police department

js because they got arrested

[chilly thorn]

I think the best suspect designs are probably the MLO as little as we seen of them

[sick remnant]

or killed

[chilly thorn]

MLO are creepy I love their absolutely out of it vibe

[quasi coral]

Yea, lotta people wanna see that

Just a police station assault

It'd so be cool if our job was to flank and control them and we spawn at a door with the police officers holding down the station or something

[chilly thorn]

It happened in swat 4 once

[quasi coral]

Too military, ngl You get my point

[chilly thorn]

but I don't think an assault on a police station makes like... sense...

[quasi coral]

How was it?

[chilly thorn]

forgettable just felt like a generic office building with a police theming

[quasi coral]

It's true, but people find it super cool

[quasi coral]

Well damn, expected

[chilly thorn]

Honestly one of the maps I want the most is a remake of Checking In

The OG hotel had such a offputting vibe seeing the halls of bullet holes and corpses

People who weren't even the target and just got in the crossfire of something out of their control

[lost pawn]

fix bullet penetration for ai and player please

[quasi coral]

Hell yes twin, that's just Sins of the Fathers though.. Less Hotelly

[quasi coral]

They are working on it, what's wrong with bulley Pen?

[lost pawn]

gettin penned through wall with pistol yet ap rounds wont go through

[chilly thorn]

Its main floor was really close to a real hotel in LA, that I've actually walked through its so weird with that context

[quasi coral]

Oh, on the suspects side

Yea that's pretty damn weird

[chilly thorn]

weird in a good way

[quasi coral]

RoN in REAL LIFE?!

Why not, honestly, but preferabbly a bank robbery mission is the way to go

[chilly thorn]

I could show you pictures of the real hotel if you'd like

not mine I didn't take pictures since at the time I just thought of it as a hotel lol

[quasi coral]

I can always search it up dw

[chilly thorn]

For sure

Even swat 4 didn't have one

[quasi coral]

I feel like everyone is overlooking an airport, I get that it would feel like cashing in on a No Russian feel but theres a reason why that hit good

[quasi coral]

Wow, too corny?

[chilly thorn]

Swat 4 was pretty goofy so I doubt thats the reason

maybe they just didn't think about it or thought it was generic

[quasi coral]

I suppose, they were trying a more realistic approach after all

I mean SWAT 3 had a nuclear threat mission lol

[chilly thorn]

I think the probelm with the airport is like

1: its absurd
2: The layout would be hell to design

I feel like the Oil Rig is like the limit till we eventually get to the mariposa's house of horrors

[quasi coral]

Yea, I'd argue an oil rig raid is absolutely absurd as well, but here we are

I was walking around an airport and man I gotta say, some sections would make an absolute killer RoN mission

[chilly thorn]

I'd be fine with it just too see what Zack does with the ost for it

[trim wing]

I wish there was a different mode for Elephant

[quasi coral]

Then again, yea, it would be hell to design unless it was only the food section and waiting parts

[quasi coral]

[chilly thorn]

But I still think that a Metro Station would be much scarier especially if its a powers out scenerio

NVG SUSPECTS PLEASE

[quasi coral]

I'm sticking with a mall mission for now though, airports are just way too big

[quasi coral]

For what lol, they can already aimbot in the dark

[chilly thorn]

it would look cool and explain them being able to see in the dark, and then make the non nvgs not see in the dark.

[trim wing]

It would be cool if score was off or like, calculated differently, there were plenty more student civilians, and the suspects were actively killing civilians while they tried to make their way to the exits as the mission started

[chilly thorn]

Npcs have flashlights in this game so it could work with that

A powered off metro station could also be an absolute horror show without nvgs and could be a cool achievement objective of only using a flashlight

[quasi coral]

I agree, we are already too late, why would it be a problem?

[trim wing]

I think there was a mod map like that

[quasi coral]

Ooh, perhaps

And finishing the Metro mission under a time limit would get you "Subway Surfers"

[trim wing]

Please no more time limit achievements 😭

[chilly thorn]

I'm still thinking of it being the hands like "Final Act" before dying out. It could be an absolute massacre. Imagine turning on your flashlight just seeing the tile floors caked in blood.

[quasi coral]

MWHWHEHEH

[prime spear]

Maybe they’ll put subway surfer in the top left to keep you hooked.

[trim wing]

Which one is the hand again, is that the neon tomb and relapse one

[prime spear]

The bombers.

[trim wing]

This is a much better idea

[quasi coral]

Imagine taking the metro in Los Suenos in the first place 💔🙏

[quasi coral]

Hopefully

[prime spear]

Shi worse than New York

[quasi coral]

Oncod man

First suspect I'm gonna see a Gerard kidnapping rats

[covert aurora]

there's really one that's "finish X level within X time limit"

[trim wing]

Yeah and it took me a few tries, honestly not that bad but a metro map with one sounds like pain

[chilly thorn]

Both

[sick remnant]

I thought the same for military bases but they dont carry guns

[chilly thorn]

The lore says theres 20 members left about

and they don't really seem to be the "Taking losing lightly" type

actually they didn't really lose they made their impact but yknow

[chilly thorn]

Unlockable watch option thats just a phone tied to your wrist with family guy clips

[trim wing]

I think it does but not for like the lspd

I think smaller police stations (probably in other countries) would be targets for insurgent groups, I was in this one place a long time ago and this weird guy in this some eastern country I think in the baltics kept talking about raiding his local police station as a step for some fucking revolution/movement, I don't think he ever did anything though

[marble oyster]

flash bang

my friend told me its the same as casting fireball

[quasi coral]

It's gotta be the breaching shotgun or the launcher

The breaching shotgun is so fun, whilst the launcher is effective to stun suspects quick, but it is definitely limited to front firing only, instead of being deployable as well or being able to actually fire to a certain direction

[stone bay]

void should add the hk mk23

[subtle palm]

When is the next update

And female operators

[jolly verge]

[subtle river]

to load my mods, I need to restart the game?

[jolly verge]

Yes

[subtle river]

🧐

[tacit gull]

can just make it a function so the tablet actually becomes useful

[subtle palm]

Fr?

Female operators

[jolly verge]

Nah

But update yeah

[subtle palm]

Well

I think they would be cool asf

[subtle river]

ETA?

[covert aurora]

Soon™

[subtle palm]

Do y’all prefer running 3 man crew or like 5

[covert aurora]

either

[ruby tree]

I wil do four or two on wich mission

[bitter wyvern]

has there been a suggestion ever to make the score thing skippable?

[subtle river]

how can I install mods from mod.io?

[scarlet dew]

anyone S rank every mission on hard mode?

[subtle river]

there is a mod.io folder in the paks folder, is that what I need?

[covert aurora]

if your downloading mods from ingame then you don't need to do anything expect restart your game

[vernal talon]

Hi

[subtle river]

there is an option to subscribe to mods on the mod.io website, what does that do?

[tacit gull]

it downloads them

[subtle river]

okay
I think the in-game mod browser is more handy

[tacit gull]

The interface is shit, it might not work and it still requires you to restart your game

[subtle river]

I am confused 🙁

[elder coyote]

How many people in total can you have in a mp server

[tacit gull]

5 by default

With mods it can go up to 32 i think (with crashing)

[jolly verge]

With people stuck in the truck and fall under the map

[tacit gull]

hey man he just asked how many you can have, not how many work

[subtle river]

how to manually download from mod.io?

[tacit gull]

You can do it from their site

[subtle river]

can I dm you?

[tacit gull]

I guess?

[quasi coral]

REALLY?!?

Damn I'm actually stupid man Thank you(If this works)

[elder coyote]

32 person platoon for valley of the dolls 😭

[elder coyote]

I cant seem to beat the mindjot raid thing

[quasi coral]

Try going to the back(Left side) and make yourself up the staircase, and clear down from there

[subtle river]

hey guys

[quasi coral]

Hi PineA

[subtle river]

what happened on the 11th of september 2025 that made all of the mods obsolete?

[elder coyote]

Ah alr

Thanks

[quasi coral]

Goodluck Officer, Los Suenos needs yo ass 🙏💔

[subtle river]

@quasi coral can you tell me?

[elder coyote]

Los Suenos is so fked 😭🙏

[quasi coral]

I don't use mods

As Presscott said, American only. But in this case it's Vanilla

[quasi coral]

Done for 🙏 😭

[elder coyote]

Hey what region you play

[covert aurora]

an update

[quasi coral]

Asia

[elder coyote]

Oooh same

Southeast?

[quasi coral]

The only option, yea

Really hard to play with anyone since they're all European

[elder coyote]

Same same, wanna play sometime

[elder coyote]

Yeah, it just lags

[quasi coral]

Perhaps chap

[elder coyote]

Add me on discord

[quasi coral]

Roger

[subtle river]

when did he say this

[quasi coral]

It was that car mission, lemme remember

[elder coyote]

Well my main problem is not that im laggy (my wifi runs at 50mbps) its that im using a 6 year old lenovo loptop that crashes when you open more than 5 tabs in chrome, which just leads to me dying 5 times before making it thru the first door

[quasi coral]

Buy Cheap, Buy Twice

[elder coyote]

Any map that isnt dark makes my screen freeze 😭🙏

[haughty urchin]

any tactic to help with moving into corridors without getting absolutely fucked

[tacit gull]

go wide

otherwise the anwser to any question is m32a1

[haughty urchin]

wdym

[gritty nova]

But it's boring

What's the fun in making all the mission effortless

[gritty nova]

You can check with the free leaning if someone's in the corridor if that's what you mean

click alt and wasd to steer it

I mean hold alt

[tacit gull]

ask the developers

[gritty nova]

It's about finding the balance yourself sometimes

There are many games having broken weapons or items or whatever that make your gameplay a lot easier, but why use them when it ruins the fun?

[tacit gull]

"Players will optimise the fun out of any game 9 out of 10 times"
It's up to the designer not to give them tools to do this or just encourage them with different ways to play that actually offer their own benefits rather than "this plays the game for you"

[hybrid wren]

I swear to god

Suspect randomly just died right in front of me

Death note must have got him

[jolly verge]

[quasi coral]

It's true, I personally don't like the meta talkers that continuesly talk about the meta or whatever and shit on anything that isn't "op"

[hybrid wren]

Alsp gawd damn

Some suspects are suffering from serious male pattern baldness

[gritty nova]

Yes, it is up to the designer to balance everything out, but if they fail to do so then you shouldn't just be like "This weapon is op and unbalanced so I just have to use it and blame the developers that they didn't balance it"

[tacit gull]

What are you talking about? Of course you should blame the developers for adding a gun that actively makes the game worse

[prime spear]

Sue Void Interactive.

[hybrid wren]

Why the hell are they shooting trough damn walls!? Or whatever they are doing

Just got killed by the last suspect

Cause they blasted someone, i went in to check, but of course someone from behind shot trough my police shield and murdered me

Also, i find it kinda weird how damage in this game works

Sometimes i feel like my character can tank 2 mags

Sometimes he dies from few bullets

[stuck reef]

Hi Everyone

I often have a problem with bots in single-player games. My opponents easily kill me with a couple of bullets. Despite all this, I have a protective helmet, heavy body armor, and a full Ceramic plate, and the difficulty level is Medium.

[rocky plover]

use steel for you and swat AI as well, it's better

[stuck reef]

I apologize, I checked my mods and it turns out I had a mod for improving enemy AI, I completely forgot about it.

[jolly verge]

[rocky plover]

👍

[hybrid wren]

Do bots in this game have detect distance set lower than suspects?

[worldly root]

from what ive seen it depends

i had a bot snipe the shit out of a suspect that somehow didnt see him with a beanbag

[hybrid wren]

Idk, in my expirience they won't ever shoot a guy like idk 200 m from them

And most of the time i happen to be the only one to engage

[stuck reef]

Speaking of armor, one guy told me that steel armor absorbs bullets well, but does more damage due to reflection, and ceramics are a good option, but crumble from a powerful shot, and kevlar is good against weak weapons like pistols and PPs.

[rocky plover]

kevlar is 50% dmg reduction - basically worst choice imo
ceramic is 100% dmg reduction but breaks, then it becomes 40%, good for smaller maps with not a lot of suspects
steel is 86.5% dmg reduction, best one overall since it never breaks as well

[hybrid wren]

Greased palms warehouse is so confusing

[rocky plover]

also with broken ceramic bleeding doesn't happen unless you get hit on limbs, with steel you can bleed much more and that's a good thing because you can keep resetting HP from like 20% to 50% health

[hybrid wren]

I mean yeah you can memorize it but without that it's gets a bit difficult to see where you can go and where you cannot

So sometimes i'll look at unnaccessible area for suspects

[rocky plover]

also I wouldn't worry too much about spalling from steel plates, you can't spall yourself anyways and if you get spalling from teammates or vice versa it's very negligible

[hybrid wren]

Does full body armor offer any benefit compared to light?

[rocky plover]

just offers the possibility for side protection if you choose "full coverage"

if you dont choose full coverage its useless to take heavy

personally i use light with either just front coverage or sometimes front and back

[hybrid wren]

Do you think that Police shield should offer more back protection? Idk if it currently does but in my expirience it doesn't seem to do that

[rocky plover]

well if you have shield you shouldnt leave it on your back

[jolly verge]

It does protect your back

You can have both shields on your back and hands

[rocky plover]

or else what would be the point - waste of a long tactical slot even though it protects ur back

[hybrid wren]

Make a police box

[stuck reef]

I was once playing on a team with some guys and they said to me, "Damn, you have a heavy bulletproof vest with ceramics on all sides," and I replied something like, "It's better to be slow than to die quickly."

😂

[rocky plover]

[stuck reef]

By the way, what's the worst pistol in the game? I think it's the Revolver. It's powerful, but with 6 bullets, it's pretty bad.

[rocky plover]

with the recently addition of the MK-V, it made the revolver look so much worse lol

cos the MK-V is just better than the revolver at pretty much everything

[stuck reef]

Honestly, I would like to see a helmet in the game that would show enemies like X-ray. I think such helmets already exist in real life, I would like to see them in the game too.

[solemn patio]

Just had my morning coffee fellas, im ready to tackle any suspects

[wind gyro]

why would this exist

[solemn patio]

I want drones that can be driven around that give you markers showing rough locations of suspects it sees, and the ability to access camera feeds, Xray helmets would be too sci fi imo

[hybrid wren]

Screw ts i'm killing these clankers

[solemn patio]

They’re likely to be prototypes that are expensive and break easy.

[solemn patio]

Which clankers,

[hybrid wren]

LSPD SWAT officers

[solemn patio]

LSPD vs LAPD who wins

LAPD has I think two m60s so we’re cooked

[solemn patio]

(Yes I want an m60 please)

[elder coyote]

Where are the soft evidence in greased palms

[jolly verge]

Good thing that armor does not slow you down in game

[rocky plover]

dead body & illegal weapons crates in the back of a truck

[elder coyote]

They're in one truck?

[solemn patio]

The pepperball pistol.

[rocky plover]

it's hard to miss, there's a crowbar next to the crate just exactly at the rear of the truck

[solemn patio]

Lethal wise its probably gonna be the revolver, if you aren’t trying to aim good.

[elder coyote]

No like both the soft evidence are in one spot or nah?

[storm belfry]

Pepper ball pistol is the best for non lethal shield

[solemn patio]

Why bring pepperball pistol, just use a 1911 to kill them when less lethal fails

[solemn patio]

I guess..

[rocky plover]

no truck is outside, body is inside the warehouse very close to the fisa office

[elder coyote]

Alr

Thanks

[solemn patio]

Model 1887 when

[rocky plover]

👍

[storm belfry]

THE POINT IS TO DISABLE NOT BLOW THEIR LEGS OFF!

[solemn patio]

I wanna dual wield 1887s like mw2

[solemn patio]

I do less lethal, not nonlethal

[stuck reef]

I really liked the storyline with the Missions, namely the Neon Grave and the relapse

[solemn patio]

Detective root beer; his bodycam is a killcam.

[storm belfry]

Its the like the NFL, he hits a trick shot and they do a live play back

[solemn patio]

I personally like the left behind and los locos, the hand was annoying

[solemn patio]

Kiss cam and its just a guy losing his head to a shotgun

[solemn patio]

I was on greasy with a g3, suspect crept around the corner and BAM, shotgun and hes down

Look in ron clips n media

I have footage of using the 1911 with the shield too

[storm belfry]

Queue the zombies nuke sound ka-boom

[solemn patio]

RON zombies mode but with fent zombies

“FETCH ME THEIR SOULS!” As they sicc feral raccoons and rats on you

[storm belfry]

You literally curved a 12g

[solemn patio]

Gang that was my clankah’s doing

I probably had 12 gauge bounce off my dummy thicc cheeks then and there

May have shot jack adams nonlethally

I think I did greasy first or second try lol

[storm belfry]

All this needs is "genuinely" and it would make it to the big leagues

[elder coyote]

I keep dying bruh

[solemn patio]

Battle rifle or 300 blackout on more dakka (full auto)

[solemn patio]

I keep trying to sneak up on suspects but the clap of my dummy thicc cheeks alerts the whole building

[elder coyote]

There's zombies?

[cedar mulch]

The left behind ones constitute the USIA storyline; they themselves are merely tools.

[solemn patio]

I wish..

[elder coyote]

Hold shift or crouch idk

[solemn patio]

I want a zombies mode man

I wish there were suspects who threw ieds at you

[elder coyote]

Or suspects that are CQB trained

So its a tdm

First team to kill the other

😹😹😹

[solemn patio]

Nah, I want IEDs that can land next to me and injure my entire squad

[hybrid wren]

SWAT4 developers wanted to make a zombie game

[solemn patio]

I just want fent zombies with knives

[elder coyote]

Just say grenades bro

Ieds would be hidden

Or be worn by a bomber

[hybrid wren]

More casual missions,would be nice yeah

[solemn patio]

Gang I aint calling a satchel of blackpowder with a bunch of glass surrounding it a grenade

[elder coyote]

Then again that is what a grenade basically is 😭

[solemn patio]

It’s an improvised explosive device, not as reliable as a grenade

[elder coyote]

Wouldn't it be a shrapnel device tho

Cuz an explosive kills using the blast, a nade kills using shrapnel

Right?

[solemn patio]

Oh yeahhh, same thing tho

[elder coyote]

An IED would realistically be placed in hidden areas for ambush, the closest we have to one is the tripwired nades

What if we give them to bombers

[solemn patio]

Ive seen people throw ieds at cops in footage

It didnt work but yaknow

[elder coyote]

Imagine going up a stairwell and a guy chucks 2kg of boom towards you

[solemn patio]

We need suspects to prep ambushes and have fake cop calls that report a hostage situation and we arent even told theres traps because they dont even know, that would be an evil mission

[solemn patio]

then your officer involuntarily screams and falls over because BIG BOOM IS FLYING TOWARDS YOU

[elder coyote]

Thats just the campus thing on roids

[solemn patio]

Yes.

[stuck reef]

Is it true that there will be a third expansion for the game in the future?

[tacit gull]

Yes

[stuck reef]

Ok

[latent crescent]

third impact

[subtle river]

ceramic or steel?

[rocky plover]

depends what you're looking for but steel gives more protection albeit slightly slower on acceleration (speed is same)

[narrow geode]

Steel best

[rocky plover]

agree

[timid kernel]

whats the next planned update?

[rocky plover]

so far all we know is multi attachments rail system and scope rework

[timid kernel]

alr, are there gonna be any ai improvements that you know of?

[rocky plover]

no idea, i sure hope so at least some fixes of some sort

[mystic palm]

When ai fix?

[muted star]

It's already fixed

[patent vine]

guyss, i have a question. I was playing lethal obsesion on quick play, HOW THE FUCK DID TWO RANDOM DUDES SPAWNED???

[patent vine]

https://medal.tv/pl/games/imported-clips/clips/lYNJOEW6I7qmvsiew?invite=cr-MSx1dkUsNDEzMzk5MzU4&v=60 video proof

[patent vine]

ooo, damn

[stable kernel]

Roger entry team, trailers inbound

[bitter iron]

I've never seen these guys before

[rocky plover]

who knows, maybe never, maybe tomorrow, maybe someday

[desert vapor]

Would you guys say the P90 is the best smg, the MP7 or the UMP-45

[rocky plover]

MP7 no doubt

[bitter iron]

I'm an MP5 Cultist so I'll stick to MP5

[rocky plover]

the other 2 are kinda trash

[mystic palm]

They only appear in quick play after u complete the objective bring order to chaos

[desert vapor]

I like smg's that can through are then light armor

[bitter iron]

Huh I wonder why they don't come out in commander mode wouldn't that make much more sense

[mystic palm]

I keep asking myself that question

[bitter iron]

I use SMGs mainly as my rear guy's weapon

I'm ngl nothing beats using an MP5 with 6 CS Gas Grenades

[desert vapor]

I was trying them all out just now and you need to put a considerable amount of bullets into armored targets

[desert vapor]

Aren't CS grenades broken?

[rocky plover]

depends, mp7 with JHP is very good up to L2

[bitter iron]

In what way?

[rocky plover]

not broken, just nerfed to the ground

[desert vapor]

A few youtubers said and showed that since the console update they don't work like they used too

[desert vapor]

Ah, alright then

[desert vapor]

I like the ump because I think it has the best armor pen

But the MP7 is always really good

[rocky plover]

mp7 and p90 have better armor pen than ump45

ye mp7 best smg hands down

[desert vapor]

You're actually right

Then it's between the MP7 and the P90 for me

[bitter iron]

Are we talking about "WDNT" Strat or just A+ rank?

[rocky plover]

if im gonna use lower caliber smg then it's gonna be MPX

[bitter iron]

For WDNT

[desert vapor]

WDNT?

[desert vapor]

Could you maybe say what makes it better then the P90?

[bitter iron]

I just straight up use an AR, C2 Charges and Tac Shield

[bitter iron]

"We Don't Negotiate to Terrorists"

Basically just kill on sight

[desert vapor]

Isn't it 'with terrorists'?

[bitter iron]

Don't arrest them

[desert vapor]

I always try to arrest suspects but if they shoot I just shoot back

[bitter iron]

When I do my S ranks all of my teammates have non lethal weapons

I know people go "That weapon is useless" but I love the non lethal pistol and SMG

[desert vapor]

I already have all missions on S rank. I'm just playing for the fun of it

[bitter iron]

m16a2 mod

• Swat 99 set = Kino

[desert vapor]

I'm a console player so no mods for me

[bitter iron]

Oh dude you're missing out with the M16

[desert vapor]

I'm just happy I get to play RoN

[tawdry silo]

hi while playing ready or not i have cca 20 - 30 fps so i wanna ask if there r any mods to increase fps

[desert vapor]

Would love to help if I could but dont know sadly

[tawdry silo]

Or like any setting yk

[desert vapor]

I'm a ps5 player so I can't help at all when it comes to pc sadly

[charred loom]

So I figured out why relapse crashes it depends on outcome of neon tomb if you capture leader it doesn’t crash another potential on ps5 is database itself o full reset and it completes

[near viper]

Does anyone know how to fix crashing whenever I try and load any map? I tried dx12, dx11 and safe mode and none of them work

[gritty nova]

Do they appear in multiplayer too?

[tawdry silo]

I never saw em in single player too so dk if they exist or not

[jolly verge]

Quick play only

[ionic crown]

How would they add the alternate to Ready or Not? The alternate is a device that's put on a pistol (or secondary weapon) that makes the first shot non-lethal, and subsequent shots are also non-lethal And the other shots are lethal, so without having to switch to the taser or pepper spray and even without having to get close to the enemy to immobilize him because let's be honest, pepper bullets They're the worst, and with non-lethal bullets you have to be lucky to make them surrender or to avoid accidentally killing them.

[wind gyro]

time to make this into a gif

[ionic crown]

(By the way, the image of the device I'm talking about is in media)

[fringe fjord]

ur welcome

🤝

[wind gyro]

what

[river ibex]

EOD is the best

better than those damn reckless S.W.A.T. officers..

yall have all those fancy ROE,

if we screw up, its not our problem anymore.

[covert aurora]

Your explosive experts we let you handle bombs, the bombs explode its all our prblens 😛

[chilly thorn]

Lots of people try to create a "Meta" of "Good Weapons" in this game even though every gun works and is good.

[river ibex]

Exactly, not my problem anymore

[covert aurora]

🤣

Cities problem

[river ibex]

yep

[molten arch]

heya im comming back to ron after long time
i have 1k hours in rainbow six does it help me with understanding game better?

[quasi coral]

General mechanic and accuracy wise, yes, but in-gameplay and tactics, absolutely not

[marble night]

does anyone know how to fix vo mods?

[sick remnant]

mf i really hate rust belt tunnels and outside the house

idont get lost but i die like its d day by some akm entrenched suspect

or either shoot from nowhere when im gonna enter the house

[bitter iron]

it mostly goes to preference tbh

I use the HK51 because it has proper stopping power

[steel valve]

I guess one could ask you: are you ready or not for the rust belt tunnels

Im a comedy genius

[bitter iron]

[Z] Kill Me

[steel valve]

I dont use pc

[chilly thorn]

I like the smgs a lot

they feel so smooth

[bitter iron]

I use SMGs most of the time

[steel valve]

I use shotguns and a lot of gas

[bitter iron]

my most greatest creation ever

was larping as the SAS during the Iranian Siege

[steel valve]

Larp as a patrol officer in the elephant mission

[bitter iron]

by having my teammates with Gas Masks and MP5A2s

[chilly thorn]

I like the fact that the 590M feels so flimsy

really makes me feel as if im using a piece of shit

(which I am that gun sucks)

[bitter iron]

Just straight up gassing the "Secret Service" out

[worldly root]

870cqb with slugs my beloved

[chilly thorn]

Slugs are so much better then buckshot for this game

they kill less

[steel valve]

Ngl Ive S ranked almost every mission so now im just killing everyone I see

[covert aurora]

Kinda wish the 870 was stockless

[chilly thorn]

I've been trying to S rank maps without using less lethal guns

its kinda fun

[worldly root]

nah man after all the pain i endured S ranking, nothing lives

[bitter iron]

Ill be honest when I did Elephant Mission I just straight up shot them off

[steel valve]

Well said man

[bitter iron]

We weren't planning on making them surrender

[steel valve]

I kill surrendering enemies

And also civilians if they annoy me

[worldly root]

well if i need to arrest i do

[bitter iron]

it was straight up just "Engage to engage"

[chilly thorn]

Im a swat 4 player so I guess im out of my element with people who shoot suspect

[worldly root]

but if its optional…

[chilly thorn]

I remember in swat 4 if you shot like 4 suspects you wouldn't be able to progress to the next map

[onyx dome]

7.62 my beloved ( SA 58 is rly fun )

[worldly root]

incap or hurt a suspect, finish them with a stinger for dramatic effect

[covert aurora]

Mcx/mk18 all the way!

[chilly thorn]

I once broke a suspects spine with a stinger

unintentional

[bitter iron]

I'd kill for an MK18 with a carry handle

[chilly thorn]

its coming to the game in the next update

[covert aurora]

It's coming: according to https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/1144200/view/526476689498178905 dev brief

G36c is also getting one

[bitter iron]

goated I get to larp as a Counter Terrorist

[chilly thorn]

Gripless MP9 when...

Give us different iron sight options the only gun with that is the MP7 with the objectively better pistol sights

[worldly root]

glock wit da switch

[ashen copper]

yes lads

[covert aurora]

https://tenor.com/view/oç-fatih-fatihi-sikmek-sikmeye-gif-20546394

[sick remnant]

tf is larp

[trim wing]

live action roleplay is the acryonym but people don't use it like that anymore so it's just roleplay

[chilly thorn]

we need switched up suspects

and drako suspects

[sick remnant]

oh

[elder coyote]

Hey im having a problem with the npc team

When i issue a command, they sometimes just stand there and do nothing

Like they dont move at all, and i didnt queue the command

So idk why they dont execute ut

[sick remnant]

tell them to fall in and wait until they follow

then re issue

If not idk

[elder coyote]

Oh btw where's the dead body near fisa office in the greased hands mission

[trim wing]

Near a forklift I think

[worldly root]

its kinda between the fisa officer and under the second floor office

[trim wing]

If you're outside the fisa office looking at the door to the office, it's to your left

[marble oyster]

does anyone buy donuts to get in the mood of RoN

[lost inlet]

No.

[onyx dome]

In the mood 😭

[trim wing]

No but you should buy me donuts for that

[cloud radish]

anyone wanting to finish the last few maps with me? got 3-4 left

[thick dome]

man, doing hard mode with 2 man is rough

[cloud radish]

im just doing standar lol i wanna get all the maps done before i try pistol only or on hard

[thick dome]

brisa cove was a pain in the butt having to arrest 3 of those clowns

[cloud radish]

buzz u down to run it?

[thick dome]

not this evening. been playing for several hours..we kinda burnt out lol

so much jank in the game makes hard mode a real pita too

[cloud radish]

i feel that

[thick dome]

aimbot enemies with 0 reaction time... bullets not registering.. flash bangs having no effect

[cloud radish]

ya i remember when it first came to console and i had to deal with that bs

[thick dome]

its really annoying on hard mode cause you die so fast if a bang doesnt work..or bullets dont register

[cloud radish]

ya the worst map for that to happen is relapse

[thick dome]

god..i dread even thinking that one and port

[surreal pelican]

Does anyone of y'all use the SMGs in single fire

[thick dome]

2 man is rough cause cant really have good rear security

i dont use smgs except certain maps. the mp5 is neat cause its mp5...but ar180 is life 🙂

[surreal pelican]

Large ass map with bombs to defuse. I take main entrance

[surreal pelican]

Hell yea brother, my AI squadmates have the ARN and one 870 cqb. Trying out the MP7 rn coz bored of AR

Wondering if the full auto is worth it since I only bring 4 primary mags

[thick dome]

on a smg..id think unless you specifically tryin gto dome people, FA is the way to go casue it takes multiple shots to incap

i usually shoot 3-4 shots into every sus with a smg

burst firing

[wind gyro]

@strong fox
no on #📩feedback-reports-channel message
check pinned in #🔧modding-chat for a reason why, also if they did mods on console it would remain mod.io

[surreal pelican]

For me I'm pretty used with single fire on the ARs, looking at the data sheet it says 3 shots to incap for MP7

Don't wanna risk killing HVTs like Jack Adams

[chilly thorn]

Theres ways to find out if your bangs worked

[thick dome]

mp7 ROF so high, a quick burst is 4 shots

[surreal pelican]

So full auto?

[chilly thorn]

hear out for them shouting like "FUCK I CAN'T SEE" or randomly hitting a "Wha-AGHHH-WHAT"

[surreal pelican]

And turn on the subtitles as well

[chilly thorn]

or just listen for yourself

its not like the sound mixing in this game in this game is bad

sometimes I think the music could be a little louder on some maps tho

[thick dome]

on ARs i burst 2 shots on FA. with smgs i burst 4 shots ..but thats just me. ik not interesting in taking prisoners

i make orphans

[surreal pelican]

I just 2 tap on single, more controllable

I only usually run 4 primary mags to bring more flashbangs

[chilly thorn]

I usually do 2 or 3 for smgs

[thick dome]

on most maps i run 3 mags. rarely have ammo issues

[surreal pelican]

My pistol has JHP 2 mags especially when I run AP and I need to deal with hostages

[thick dome]

for ARs or smgs..sometimes 4 mags if its like a 20 enemy map. but thats playing 2 player

[surreal pelican]

Damn

[chilly thorn]

JHP for everything except super heavy armor honestly

[thick dome]

doesnt take a mag dump to kill. most guys are down in either 1 dome shot or a douible tap burst

with an AR that is

[chilly thorn]

Most suspects get incapped from 2 shots in the chest with smgs

so I usually do that

Upper chest that is, Just avoid the neck.

but tbh I don't usually shoot at anyone in this game so I can't really give combat advice

[thick dome]

the AR180 and MCX have almost identical recoil patterns and same ROF. so i flip flop since they are so similar except caliber. on hard mode, i run the AR180 cause 300bo usually 1 shot less than 556 on hard mode

[chilly thorn]

300 black out is barely different

[thick dome]

it has better armor pen with JHP and on hard mode maintains a 1 shot adv over 556 on most maps

300bo JPH pens lvl3 armor, 556 jhp does not

[chilly thorn]

Hard mode changes health?

[thick dome]

yes

[chilly thorn]

I never noticed since I rarely shoot peeps

Honestly I spend more ammo shooting around people to scare them

[thick dome]

762x51 no longer 1 shot incaps on hard mode too. the health thresholds are just high enough to prevent that. and pushes 5.56 to 3 shot incap on most of the time

300 stays 2 shot almost always. suspects have different health on different maps also

your guy has less health on hard and takes a higher single shot dmg cap. thats why you die faster on top fo enemies have 0 reaction time

hard mode is honestly not really fun. its too janky and the games ROE are nonsensical with that quick a death and enemy reactions

[cedar mulch]

Which faction is VOID's favourite?

😂

[chilly thorn]

Probably the los locos they seem to have the most maps related to them

they also have some of the best voice acting in the game

also the most unique music

[thick dome]

the black dudes have good voice acting too. dont soudn like no pasty whiteys voicing them

[chilly thorn]

LOL

I guess yeah

Those gangsters on Stolen valor are funny as fuck

The voice acting in this game is overall really good especially the screaming and gurgling and shit its gross

[thick dome]

its really annoying though often. its over done

[chilly thorn]

I mean

how common is someone to get shot in this game if your playing well

so it makes sense its meant to give weight to your actions

[thick dome]

90%...like is said, im not down with taking prisons that wont surrender on the 1st or 2nd yell

they dont give up, they dead

[chilly thorn]

well thats your fault for not playing good not the games lol

[thick dome]

man ive S ranked every mission. dont enjoy that at all

[chilly thorn]

not shooting people isn't S ranking

[thick dome]

most annoying thing ive ever done in this game

[chilly thorn]

personally I find S ranking with nonlethals boring

its more fun to do with lethals where you actually have to try

I've currently S ranked 16 maps with Lethal guns

its fun as hell

[thick dome]

i prefer playing more like a counter terror. dont care bout arrestin gpeople

[chilly thorn]

I mean yeah you can like playing like that but you can't really compain about the game being annoying when you play like that as its not really intended yknow

[thick dome]

i enjoy the tactical pace and play..i just do it lethally lol

[chilly thorn]

Sometimes I enjoy shooting people but not with the swat ai

because then really whats the point of the ai teammates

[thick dome]

oh..ive never played with the AI

me and my brother just 2 man it

[chilly thorn]

ah

honestly the coop mode is kinda trash imo

ruins the immersive sim elements by removing the whole commander thing

kinda angers me that this is viewed as a "Co-op" game even though its just a side mode honestly

[thick dome]

yeah i dont care bout that heh. i like playing as a tac team using real tactics and such with room clearing and covering

[chilly thorn]

sometimes I wish this game was like swat 4 where the game would immediently shut you down for that stuff

[worldly root]

honestly playstyle depends on who im with

if im on my own i go slow, if im with my old buds we just kill everything with guns or knives

[thick dome]

yeah when we flowing its cool. swapping off point, covering etc without having to say much

[chilly thorn]

I used to do alot of coop but its so hard to hit that slow horror gameplay i like

sometimes I like to just run in and shoot without swat ai to turn my brain off but its a little too easyt

[thick dome]

thats why i want to see operator and ground branch get good

[worldly root]

ground branch falloff must be studied

[thick dome]

its very simnliar to swat in terms of pacing and strat, but not police themed. yeah....

[trim wing]

Was it ever good? I feel like it's always been gun sandbox but the game part has never moved

[chilly thorn]

swat is much slower paced then ground branch

[thick dome]

sorry meant ron not swat

[chilly thorn]

RoN should make the player character a little slower

[elder coyote]

Why does this fisa agent keep fighting back, and why is it that when i kill the target for arrest the objective fails, but when my ai team does it its perfectly fine

[worldly root]

imo it was but its just dead as hell now cause the dev cycle is just gruesomely slow now

[chilly thorn]

Team ai incap them most the time

[worldly root]

1.5 years or something between updates that kept the game alive for a few months

[chilly thorn]

isn't the enemy ai in ground branch ass

[lost inlet]

At this point, just locked player into walking speed.

[drifting prawn]

me going insane cuz i cant sprint around the big ahh map but all i need to do is search for civvies and evidence i left behind

[elder coyote]

How to incap manually

[chilly thorn]

Yeah

honestly Yeah!

[chilly thorn]

Just make sure they dont die

refrain from using big guns like the 7.62s or Shotguns and avoid arteries.

[surreal pelican]

So.. 4 mags for SMG boys?

I'm trying out the MP7 and damn full auto really fits them since they have little recoil unlike AR

[surreal pelican]

Depending on what weapon and ammo type (calibre and JHP or AP), rifles with JHP for 5.56 is 2 tap

Up to L2

[trim wing]

Shoot in the chest

[chilly thorn]

3-5

try the ump45 trust me youll fall in love

[surreal pelican]

Soon brotha..

[elder coyote]

Thanks guys

Also, kinda confused, in the greased hands mission, isnt fisa part of the good guys

[trim wing]

No

[elder coyote]

What is fisa?

[trim wing]

Well they're like the FBI, but in this universe they're like, bad

[elder coyote]

Then why does judge take orders from them

[trim wing]

Because they're like, secret bad kinda something like that

They're diddybluds

[lost inlet]

I did, till void nerfed it.

[surreal pelican]

That standalone jack ass is corrupt

[lost inlet]

FBI but acts like CIA.

[elder coyote]

Kinda starting to dawn on me that this place is kinda fucked up

Why is it called the city of dreams

[chilly thorn]

This games entire point is that america is failure of a country

The City of dreams could be symbolism for the american dream

[elder coyote]

Well i mean the map is the same as the gta 5 map

Ig this is basically what the police in gta experiences

Valley of the dolls cant be that bad right?

Its a party

[chilly thorn]

SHHH

Don't tell them

[lost inlet]

[worldly root]

yeah with a smelly basement

[elder coyote]

Oh how many soft evidence in this map

[tough nymph]

Who want to play a terrorist hunt mod? 80 suspect on the hospital map

[elder coyote]

What the fuck are in those barrels

[drifting prawn]

guess

[marble oyster]

what do you think it is?

[elder coyote]

WHERE IS THAT SOUND COMING FROM

WTF

[drifting prawn]

"dolls"

[elder coyote]

Theres a lot of clothes seems to be for children

[granite elk]

Do you guys think the mlo with be part or the main focous of the next dlc since that was that was what the last mission in dark waters was about?