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[vivid widget]

damn is steel just that good?

[rocky plover]

for myself I alternate a lot between stab vest, light armor

sometimes light armor with front only steel

sometimes light armor with front and back steel

i dont touch heavy though for myself

[civic fiber]

only good on AI as they do not get speed penalty’s

[rocky plover]

with recent buff, yes deffo

[rocky plover]

still with recent buff, and speed penalty reduced its barely noticeable anymore

[vivid widget]

i know that

[rocky plover]

unless you take heavy with full coverage

[vivid widget]

i'm more curious about the actual protection
86.5% all the time vs ceramic with 100% but it can break, i know the difference between the two

[rocky plover]

well sometimes it feels like that, we just need to be patient and wait for more content that's why I don't get back to it every day or I would feel the frustration more

[solemn patio]

I double tapped the HVT on relapse for killing a hostage and failed the objective dawg.

WASNT EVEN MY LOBBY FIRST TIME ON RELAPSE MULTIPLAYER

[marsh lark]

What makes steel so great is that you constantly bleed

[rocky plover]

well the stats AspidZeus sent you yesterday speak for themselves on the outcome, with steel you can take around double the shots before you die

[rocky plover]

lol

[solemn patio]

Watched 2 guys storm the left room on the bridge and die super fast

[vivid widget]

this means what exactly

[marsh lark]

When you bleed you will automatically reset to 50% HP

[rocky plover]

with steel you can bleed more (chances)

[hybrid wren]

F spam privably

[solemn patio]

Well you can paint your uniform red

[marsh lark]

So if you have 2% HP and bleed, you go back up to 50%

[hybrid wren]

Oh damn

[rocky plover]

that means if your 40% it takes you back up to 50%

[vivid widget]

bruh
ok i get it now

[hybrid wren]

Animation reset level "feature"

[vivid widget]

that's just ridiculous

[marsh lark]

With Ceramic you cannot bleed once the plate is broken

Which is a disadvantage

[rocky plover]

and steel gives you more chance to do that

^^ as he said

it just gets it's damaged reduced to 40% once it's broken (with ceramic)

[vivid widget]

crazy

[rocky plover]

the only advantage (apart from being slight faster) with ceramic is, if you get hit more in limbs that the plates, you can technically live longer with ceramic than steel, but its RNG and rare

and for longer maps, steel is just better and safer anyways

[vivid widget]

gotcha
so full heavy steel coverage for ai, and light steel front back for me

all my ai have the same guns, 3 flashes, 2 wedges, just that they have different long tacticals
one shield, one flash, one breach shotgun, one ram

[rocky plover]

for Ai ye definetely, for yourself its personal preference if light or heavy and what coverage but ye steel is better

[rocky plover]

ye thats good, can focus more on utility than ammo for them, because they have infinite ammo if you just give them at least 1 mag slot

[vivid widget]

lmao what

[rocky plover]

yup

[vivid widget]

i guess one mag each gun then spread out the slots
that's just silly lol

[rocky plover]

ye this is the loadout I give them for S ranks lol

[vivid widget]

i'm making a lethal loadout but yeah ok, that's just funny

[rocky plover]

ye can be applied to that as well just 1 mag for primary and 1 mag for seconday and the rest whatever

[vivid widget]

1 mag primary 1 mag secondary, 2 c2, 2 wedges, 5 flashes

[rocky plover]

pretty much ye XD

[vivid widget]

i use the mirrorgun for myself so

[rocky plover]

you can, I like giving it to the AI, cos they're bad with anything else tbh

[vivid widget]

fair

[mossy crescent]

theres no way, i had 2 squadmates in the room with me

[rocky plover]

i prefer launcher for myself

cos they just shoot it at the ground infront of my eyes lol

[vivid widget]

for s rank i'm just going to give everyone flashbang launchers probably

[vivid widget]

or follow this

[rocky plover]

yeah its op

[rocky plover]

ye thats with flash launcher

[vivid widget]

gotcha

everyone has ap 5.56 sr-16 and jhp g19 secondary

idk if giving my teammates jhp is a good idea or not but hey

[rocky plover]

for lethal though you could take mirrorgun for yourself and give AI like breaching equipment or shield, I was mostly referring to less lethal loadout options for S rank

[rocky plover]

give them any 7.62x51 weapon, they slap with it

[vivid widget]

true

g5a3 or g3

[rocky plover]

depends on suspect armor

[rocky plover]

doesn't make a different for AI

[vivid widget]

ap or jhp for 7.62

[wind gyro]

jhp

[rocky plover]

jhp for 23/26 maps

for other 3 maps switch them to AP

[vivid widget]

elephant, leviathan, and sins of the father

[rocky plover]

yes

[vivid widget]

kk

i'll just give my ai one of each 7.62 rifle

other than that, 1 mag primary 1 mag secondary, 2 c2, 2 wedges, 5 flashes

[rocky plover]

yep thats 16 c2, 16 wedges & 20 flashes in total between the AI lol

[vivid widget]

wait how

[rocky plover]

maths

[vivid widget]

2 x 4 is 8 no?

[rocky plover]

wedges and c2 come in pairs

1 slot = 2

[vivid widget]

bro

[hybrid wren]

I kinda dislike how teammates would overdo your work, but kinda understandable

[vivid widget]

where in the game am i supposed to find this

[hybrid wren]

Like you shoot suspect's hand, he enters stggering animation, shout at him to drop down his weapon

[rocky plover]

like this ^

[hybrid wren]

But before you udder a word your teammates kill him

[hybrid wren]

It's the same way in SWAT4

[vivid widget]

wtf is this game lol

[sonic flint]

I wonder what the 3rd DLC will be

And I wonder when we will get some sort of tease.

[hybrid wren]

Stalingrad

[rocky plover]

kinda like ammunition type, caliber and armor types, nothing is explained clearly gotta test it out lol

[cedar mulch]

Has VOID ended up in the backroom or the pool core? They seem to have vanished into thin air.

[hybrid wren]

Are we going to get DLCs instead of updates?

[rocky plover]

probably both, idk

[cedar mulch]

I sense VOID has entered the Poolcore realm, where they meditate, pondering the very meaning of crafting a SWAT game.

[hybrid wren]

Kinda seems to be modern gaming's meta

[cedar mulch]

https://tenor.com/view/poolroom-gif-27696768

[rocky plover]

ye true feels like that sometimes, for everything to be thrown under a paid dlc

[hybrid wren]

Next update is going to be steel plate nerf bug fixes and Balaclava DLC

[rocky plover]

lol, hopefully buff gas slightly

[sonic flint]

Icl, Ready Or Not doesn't feel the same anymore when I first played it Day 1 for console, it feels... nerfed. Last time I played, it seemed like bullets just wouldn't cause bullet wounds or proper impact on NPCs etc.

[rocky plover]

make it usable again, but not op as it was

[hybrid wren]

How exactly OP it was?

[vivid widget]

feels dumb that i can't use the balaclava without mods or using the echo characters in multi

[rocky plover]

this ^ @hybrid wren

[hybrid wren]

Beacuse most NPCs don't wear gas masks?

[keen stratus]

whens the update

[rocky plover]

[keen stratus]

date

[hybrid wren]

What if instead of stun CS gas greatly reduced accuracy and visibility for NPCs like they can still fire byt very poorly

[rocky plover]

because it was the most op shit compared to flash/stingers, now it's the opposite, also masks are still cosmetic for suspects, only suspect not effected by gas is 1 suspect type that can spawn on lethal obsession

[cedar mulch]

If Ron were to strip away the SWAT elements, would it become a pure horror game?

[hybrid wren]

And that would give you the opportunity to walk up and SMACK the shit iut of them

[hybrid wren]

[hybrid wren]

It would be Bodycam

[cedar mulch]

I believe VOID is well-suited to horror games such as PT and Visage.

[hybrid wren]

Or maybe just make gas masks not very practical

Like they can get damaged the big ones, easily

[rocky plover]

just like the helmets on sinuous trail - still cosmetic

[cedar mulch]

VOID certainly possesses the potential to create horror games, but I doubt whether they would produce one.

[hybrid wren]

But you like can get the SAS type gas mask and it's more durable but limits visibility

Also make you walk slower

[rocky plover]

ye or make it harder to use with nvg's and ADS with certain optics

[jolly verge]

This is exactly how it's working in game https://youtu.be/aSAYwXUmmLE?si=uYTLrLIrPPqZQWwJ

[hybrid wren]

Well, i'm sorry Void

[keen stratus]

ron need more night ops

[hybrid wren]

Eh idk with ingame flashlight is kinda inconvenient

And looking at everything with NVG can get a bit boring

[keen stratus]

Have you ever put night vision on irl

[hybrid wren]

I've yet to serve in army

And i doubt they will give us NVGs there

[civic fiber]

How do you see your health bar?? is that a mod on PC?

[marsh lark]

There is a mod, but I dont use that. In any case you can judge your health by the outline of your model on the bottom left

[keen stratus]

U get nvgs in the army don't worry

[marsh lark]

the darker red it is, the lower the HP is

[hybrid wren]

In my case army would be russian

[keen stratus]

Ur cooked

[hybrid wren]

It's fine i will turn off my face ID

[civic fiber]

Like per limb?

[keen stratus]

It would be fun to use night vision and ron

[rocky plover]

the outline of the paperdoll is the health

[keen stratus]

I only use my flashlight

[civic fiber]

Thats quite obscure

[rocky plover]

you get used to it

[hybrid wren]

Why does screen go red when inhaling gas

[civic fiber]

because it gets in your eyes

[rocky plover]

losing hp slowly without gas mask

[hybrid wren]

Damn

I liked how they did getting hit by gas and stringer in SWAT4

Screen not only blurs but enables minecraft poisoning ahh effects

[civic fiber]

This is quite useful information Aspid, thank you for this knowledge 👍

[rocky plover]

he's the man, the goat and MMMM guy ofc too

[tacit gull]

Is the health showing properly now though?

[jolly verge]

Nope

Always 1 hit behind

[tacit gull]

💀

dont worry the hud overhaul any day now!!!

[jolly verge]

So hard to implement outline that update current health properly

[hybrid wren]

What does it mean when limb damage red thingy goes from vivid red to a more dull color?

[rocky plover]

broken legs as an example, cant kick door (if its right leg)

[jolly verge]

More speed penalty for the leg and none for the arm and head

[rocky plover]

or worst recoil for arm injury and ^ as he said

[civic fiber]

why do the enemy’s like only target limbs

armor is practically useless

[rocky plover]

well arms is kinda like in front of your armor

but legs? ye BS most of the time lol

[jolly verge]

They can lock on limbs but most of the time they hit them only because of large accuracy cone

[hybrid wren]

Lethal obsession explains this afaik

[hybrid wren]

On the roof there's a drawing

[jolly verge]

This is what swat ai accuracy looks like when aiming only at the torso area

[rocky plover]

is it the same for suspects?

[jolly verge]

Suspects can retarget on limbs or head

[rocky plover]

as in the default 3.2?

or it varies per map?

ik it varies on difficulty

[jolly verge]

3.5 on standart and some specific suspects have better accuracy (3 suspects on Dorms with M4 as example)

[rocky plover]

ah i see.

[jolly verge]

Lethal obsession - 3.2
Narcos - 3.3

On hard their default accuracy is much better

[rocky plover]

2.5 right for the most part

[jolly verge]

Yeap

[rocky plover]

dayum

not to mention their RoF increase

[jolly verge]

That actually the worst part imo

1000rpm AKM

[rocky plover]

yeah lmao

[civic fiber]

wdym 2.5 i thought it was 3.2?

[rocky plover]

3.2 on standard, 2.5 on hard (for suspects)

for most of the general maps

[civic fiber]

ohhh

[jolly verge]

Btw swat ai accuracy on Standart and Casual is 3.5 while on Hard 3.2

[rocky plover]

the chart Aspid sent is for SWAT AI

[hybrid wren]

Can ai run out of ammo

[jolly verge]

Suspects yes

[rocky plover]

lol so swat ai barely improves, but the suspects become john wick lol

[rocky plover]

yes, then they try to find weapon caches

[civic fiber]

thats how they always are bro

[rocky plover]

[civic fiber]

thats why you lowkey gotta stealth this game

MK17 my goat or G3A3

[hybrid wren]

Cool

[civic fiber]

@rocky plover Did you know the SWAT Ai can fire significantly faster than you can with the .357?

[hybrid wren]

Are "incapped" NPCs supposed to move and make noises?

Most of the time i feel like they just bleed out in few seconds

[civic fiber]

they’re basically downed but alive

[full shore]

Hax

[rocky plover]

yeah noticed that, but then I can fire much faster than them with weapons like the beanbag for example

[jolly verge]

Did you try to use it with shield

[civic fiber]

i always got the shield

me and all my swat got the shield

[hybrid wren]

Is the ram useful?

I have not used it yet but i feel like it's probably like kicking the door

[rocky plover]

it's good but i prefer the breach shotgun over it

[civic fiber]

the reload and range sucks

[rocky plover]

it's quicker for dynamic entry though especially if solo

range is better wdym

[civic fiber]

worst shotgun in the whole game ✌️😔

[hybrid wren]

It's supoosed to be door shotgun smh

[rocky plover]

well its a breaching shotgun that has breaching rounds not 12G lol

[civic fiber]

yeah 👍

my favorite shotgun is the Supernova

[hybrid wren]

I wish there was an option to collapse or remove stock

[civic fiber]

the choked buck has so little spread

[rocky plover]

you can use it on trapped doors and not die if you guage the distance correctly which cant be done with ram

but ye reload can take a bit of time i agree

but its quicker to swap from it to a weapon, when compared to ram which is nice for quick entries

[civic fiber]

my lunch break is almost over 😞

[rocky plover]

also another thing which barely any people know about it, you can blow a corner on the door and disable trap or throw a flash all without even opening the door lol

[civic fiber]

huhh??

[rocky plover]

blow bottom corner hinge side and disable trap through the blown part without even peeking the door, then throw a flash through same hole and open door, easy entry and safe

ofc it has to be a wooden door, not a metal one

[civic fiber]

sounds quite loud

they would already run by the time you actually get through the door

[rocky plover]

depends, and battering ram has bigger effect radius afaik anyways

[civic fiber]

You seem like you play Door Kickers

[stone bay]

Whenever I use the battering ram, I always command "Breach with leader and flashbang, then clear"

[civic fiber]

actually such a underrated game

[rocky plover]

true esp 2

[civic fiber]

They should make a console version

[rocky plover]

ye best command ngl irrelevant to what you're using

[civic fiber]

my lunch break ends in 5 minutes 😭

its jover for me

[rocky plover]

you'll get through it!

[stone bay]

I never use stinger. I always whack the door and have my squad breach first, then I follow last

[rocky plover]

Ye I hate stingers

Especially with the AI

[vivid widget]

what even are the optimal traits for commander mode

[rocky plover]

Negotiator, pacifier, veteran, nutritionist and armorer are the ones worth using

Forget about the other ones

For S ranks I suggest 2 negotiators and 2 pacifiers
For lethal approach I suggest 2 veteran, 1 armorer, 1 nutritionist

2 negotiators, 1 armorer 1 nutritionist is also a good hybrid build

[vivid widget]

damn is veteran that good for lethal?

[rocky plover]

It's ok, armorer and nutritionist are a higher priority though

So are negotiator and pacifiers if going for S

[jolly verge]

Kinda useless but fine if you have no other good traits #👮ron-discussion message

[rocky plover]

But veteran is good compared to the other useless traits that I didn't mention

It got me through my ironman run by using 1 armorer, 1 nutritionist, 2 veteran

[stone bay]

anyone go to throw a FB through a peeked door and it bounces off and goes right back to you?

[rocky plover]

2 negotiators and 2 pacifiers is also very good if going for S ranks

[vivid widget]

i kind of just switched between my officers who were and weren't stressed

[rocky plover]

But like I said if you don't find veteran worth it for you ^ this is very good

[vivid widget]

for my ironman

[rocky plover]

Ye I did that as well depending on their stress levels

[rocky plover]

Sometimes yeah, happens most with stingers though cos they're fat lol

Sometimes what I like doing is opening the door very slightly further than peeked by pushing it with my body but not fully opening it

Helps throwing utility better

[stone bay]

I do that too, or I have AI throw it once I open it

What about blindly breaching a door and hitting a tripwire, dying instantly?

because i've done that too. Multiple times

[rocky plover]

Well if it's a map I know that has traps I either blow the corner of the door and disarm trap without peeking door

Or just peek it before

If it's a metal door

[jolly verge]

If the door is locked you can kick it or breach without checking for the trap

[rocky plover]

Peeking is always better than fully opening too irrelevant if it has traps cos of noise as well

But if you're with swat AI I wouldn't worry about this much

They're loud fucks anyways lol

[stone bay]

True. I'll be crouching, going slow, clearing corners, then I just hear

"POLICE! HANDS UP!"

[rocky plover]

Hahaha

[stone bay]

Especially in Elephant. I'm trying to get the jump on the suspects

[rocky plover]

Can't rly do it on that map and a couple others though cos they start with very high stress and any sound will put them at max stress

Possible on the 1st suspect but then it lessens

[stone bay]

Also depends on what entrance you use

[rocky plover]

True

[stone bay]

I usually use the front entrance, but the AI always starts yelling before we even get to the entrance

[civic fiber]

they have X-ray vision lmao

[rocky plover]

Yea lol

[stone bay]

Fr. I want that. That's why I make sure I have lead, unless i'm doing a non-lethal only challenge

[hybrid wren]

Yeah btw, is it me or do bots sometimes shoot from the walls or see trough them?

[stone bay]

Yep

[hybrid wren]

Sometimes i can hear my squad yell at what seems to be room corner

Or suspects would shoot somewhere

[stone bay]

EXACTLY! Sometimes i get ganged up on by a suspects or two

That's why i usually have the AI go first and I cover the hallway or breach then use LL

I do make challenges for myself. Some that I've done is blind breaching (just breach the door without checking), Non-Lethal only (Bean bag, pepperball, taser, etc. Just no live ammo), Breach only (I breach the door, I don't use weapons unless necessary), Shield and side arm, etc

if you have any suggestions for me to do, feel free to recommends

[edgy linden]

I am simple man

I load up 50 suspects with crack aim, I win or die

[north mural]

Anyone know the best team mate traits for sins of the father as im currently running two intimidators and two negotiators?

[cedar radish]

Any tips for narcos and way out west? Like guarantee getting the trophy, can I even use my team to do everything for me

[jolly verge]

2 intimidators stop working as soon as suspects gain enough stress to become alerted, instead take 2 pacifiers if you using less-lethal or 1 armorer 1 nutritionist for lethal

[jolly verge]

Swat ai can use any gun and tools, (except shield on Rust Belt)
Let them kill everyone and get at least C grade

[cedar radish]

And can I use open tablet, kick/open doors, arrest people and secure weapons?

[jolly verge]

Yes as well as use NVG, any armor/helmet, order swat ai to do everything, just don't use lockpick or anything else

[cedar radish]

Alright ill just have my revolver out and have my team do everything, clear rooms with flash n stuff

[jolly verge]

Make sure to shoot at least once from revolver, even if it's empty

[rocky plover]

@north mural

[jolly verge]

You can hold other guns just fine

[north mural]

Alr thx

[rocky plover]

2 negotiators, 1 armorer 1 nutritionist is also a good hybrid build

[cedar radish]

Gotcha ty

[vivid widget]

for the hard mode achievement what are the requirements? is it just completing the mission with a passing grade or what?

[keen tartan]

Anyone got some good loadouts for my standard ironman? Trying to go for the watch

[rocky plover]

B or higher for it to count towards the achievement

[keen tartan]

Does that also go for the watch?

[jolly verge]

2 negotiators 1 armorer 1 nutritionist, feel free to kill everyone on the last mission

[rocky plover]

No, can do that on casual without grade requirements for watch

Just need C or higher on last mission for port if you want the 2 achievements for iron man though

[keen tartan]

honestly might as well go for the hermit while I am at it

[rocky plover]

And standard or above for those achievements as well

Then do ironman on standard

[keen tartan]

Currently using 2 vets instead of the negotiators.

[rocky plover]

And on last mission get a C or higher

[keen tartan]

alright

[jolly verge]

Not good

[keen tartan]

Also I am talking bout guns, and gear not traits

[rocky plover]

Negotiator is good, basically free arrests but 2 veterans is not bad either that's how I did it anyways

[keen tartan]

"TOC I don't feel like taking prisoners today"

[jolly verge]

Then you won't get the watch

[rocky plover]

Give AI any 7.62 and heavy armor with full coverage steel and for yourself pick what you're comfortable with

[rocky plover]

Be careful not to let officers resign though lol

[keen tartan]

that's what the gas station is for

free s rank missions

[rocky plover]

You could, personally I didn't replay missions

And killed everyone as well

I just swapped officers around early and sent them to therapy early as well

[jolly verge]

Replaying gas station after each lethal mission is the worst strategy ever

[rocky plover]

So they just do 1 mission locked out instead of like 3 missions

[keen tartan]

honestly I already have the two vets and I don't feel like gambling to get 2 negotiators

[keen tartan]

Should I also give them riot shields?

[rocky plover]

Kinda hit or miss with it, I did give it to them on last mission, personally mixed feelings about it

Cos it's better if they use their primary for more firepower sometimes but at the same time sometimes the shield protects them as well, like I said hit or miss lol

[desert vapor]

Really? It's what I do as well

[rocky plover]

It's just time wasting, but it works

[keen tartan]

Honestly I just need a game to take me a long time

[rocky plover]

I didn't repeat missions but doesn't mean it doesn't work

I just wanted to get it over with

[rocky plover]

Yea understandable

[jolly verge]

I mean if you get 2 negotiators it's will much easier to play and faster so you don't need to run gas each time your officers become stressed

[rocky plover]

For S ranks I suggest 2 negotiators and 2 pacifiers
For lethal approach I suggest 2 veteran, 1 armorer, 1 nutritionist
2 negotiators, 1 armorer 1 nutritionist is also a good as AspidZeus said

[desert vapor]

Sometime I swear the enemy believes in the saying 'Never give up. Never surrender. '

[keen tartan]

I mean with 2 negotiators it's still only v50%

[rocky plover]

I mean if you send them to therapy early and switch officers around you won't have problems with stress anyways

Even if you kill everyone

[keen tartan]

for me gas station is fater

I can do one in ~3:30 mins

[rocky plover]

Yea I didn't need to do that however

[jolly verge]

Which is more then enough to make half of suspects on map surrender from just yellng on them

[desert vapor]

I run 1 armorer, 2 negotiators, and 1 intimidator

[rocky plover]

And still killed everyone

[rocky plover]

Not bad, intimidator though not so much.. wouldn't swap for smth better

Since it only works in the beginning of the map then it stops working

[desert vapor]

Someone said it stake for each swat unit in view of a suspect

[rocky plover]

And doesn't even work for some of the maps

Well many traits stack, but doesn't mean it's good

[desert vapor]

Wait what? I thought it works when a suspect isnt shooting you

[jolly verge]

That not how it's workng

[rocky plover]

I think aspid Zeus already explained how it works few lines above

Don't wanna repeat it

[desert vapor]

Alright I'll look. Thanks

[rocky plover]

This @desert vapor

[desert vapor]

Thank you

[vivid widget]

who do i go to if i want to report a griefer

[desert vapor]

Man that sucks

[rocky plover]

Also some maps suspects start max stressed so it doesn't even work from the beginning as well

[rocky plover]

You're welcome

[jolly verge]

Basically makes suspects loop in hesitate state, stop working after provoking them or when their stress reach threshold aka become alerted (each map has it's own fixed stress threshold)
Does not work on Lethal Obsession, Elephant, Neon Tomb and Relapse

[desert vapor]

I think this all should be explained in game. I greatly appreciate it

[jolly verge]

They just need fix their useless descriptions in game

[stable kernel]

Misleading flavor text is part of RoN, take it or leave it

I would think you would know that

[rocky plover]

Happens on other games as well hahah not just ron

Not to mention achievements 😂

[keen tartan]

If I run with 2 negotiators should I use all non-lethal with gas mask and stuff?

[cedar radish]

Any tips for the sleeper agent achievement? Like im still unsure how to do it

[daring rampart]

Take their weapons off them and place them in one spot. Close all armor boxes or leave just one open to lure them to that spot. A flashbang launcher works well for me. You can also bring them to one spot manually.

[arctic mural]

bro, they instant surrender

how possible?

[daring rampart]

I have a problem with the "Medal of Valor" achievement, where my progress isn’t being counted. Are there any updates about an upcoming fix?

[hazy oxide]

Is the #❗known-issues-and-fixes going to be updated any time soon or will we be getting a biweekly briefing over what bugs have been addressed and fixed?

[keen tartan]

enemies have a chance to insta surrender with the first shout. Negotiator increase the chance by 50%

[keen tartan]

wait I also have that problem lol

Is it for multiplayer?

[daring rampart]

I tried multiplayer and commander mode. Doesn't count either XD

[keen tartan]

oof

[rocky plover]

Negotiator trait stacks up to 4x (25%, 50%, 55%, 60%)

[rocky plover]

Not necessarily depends if you want to S rank or not, and if you decide to S rank use something better than gas such as flashbangs and m32a1 flash launcher or beanbag not pepperballs

[rocky plover]

Need to have 2x negotiators for 50%

[ionic echo]

hm

[gusty marten]

sins of the father is unnecessarily annoying

[neon island]

is there any option to cover up my character with a balaclava or smth similar?

[gusty marten]

only in multiplayer or mods

[neon island]

y multiplayer only?

[gusty marten]

are you saying you think judge should cover his hideous face?

ill have you know judge is a beautiful human being

[neon island]

not judge, i mean my goofy subordinates

id rather cover up their face so like any gang/cartel/smth similar cant go n take revenge on em

[gusty marten]

are you saying Diego should cover his majestic face?

[lost inlet]

That’s the neat part, you don’t have to worry about it since all of the suspects will ended up incapped anyway.

[gusty marten]

and who would want to cover up such jaw dropping faces

[neon island]

the problem is that my men will get ptsd if i dont spare at least half the suspects

[gusty marten]

spare? whats that

[neon island]

well yes, so no1 knows who he is n look for him to take revenge

[gusty marten]

pffft you think they'd come after diego

Diego is basically ramirez

ramirez, last mag, make it count

[neon island]

doesnt mean hes unkillable

id rather have him alive

[gusty marten]

his stunning face is basically a flashbang

[lost inlet]

Just S rank gas station over and over till they’re back to content.

[gusty marten]

but then theres that once instance where you accidentally kill crystal

[neon island]

do keep in mind they'd know he's in front of them and will try to blind shooting at him

[gusty marten]

did i mention he has a sandevistan

[neon island]

wat if the opposing force also has it?

[lost inlet]

You can’t kill crystal.

[gusty marten]

i doubt the opponents chromed tf up

[gusty marten]

[neon island]

unlikely doesnt mean they never can

[lost inlet]

Boid removed it long ago.

[gusty marten]

do you even know what im referencing

[neon island]

ik its the cyberpunk movie, but ive never watched it

[gusty marten]

movie💔💔

[neon island]

i call everything movie

at least everything on neflix

n other streaming platforms

[gusty marten]

whats rick and morty

[lost inlet]

Cyberpunk 2077 first started out as a cash scam btw.

[gusty marten]

so i shouldn't play it?

[neon island]

iirc its doin pretty well now, most of the bugs r fixed

[neon island]

u should, youd get to kill adam smasher

[gusty marten]

and date a 10/10 latina

wait why are you recommending me it ive done like 5 play throughs

[neon island]

recommending u to kill adam smasher some more times

[lost inlet]

Yeah, i’m talking about when it was first released.

This server have bot invasion issue now.

[humble mauve]

discord moment

[stable kernel]

https://tenor.com/view/this-discord-server-is-powered-by-this-generator-cat-pillow-cat-spinning-gif-929083260791804922

[neon island]

wat happens when the generator feels sleepy?

[stable kernel]

Discordia loses power

Not good

[neon island]

y not get 2? when gen1 feels sleepy we uses gen2

[stable kernel]

In this economy?

Caterators are very expensive

[covert aurora]

Then we construct additional pylons!

[lofty kernel]

[covert aurora]

[vivid widget]

for lethal do you use full auto or semi

[lofty kernel]

That's mostly personal preference. Some guns kick a lot so full auto will waste ammo.

The MP7 and ARN-180 are my favorite full auto

[vivid widget]

i should use the mp7

my favorite smg

[lost inlet]

Semi.

[marsh hornet]

does anyone have any good tips for greased palms on hard? Im trying to get im too old for this trophy

[rocky plover]

Gun set to full auto, but fire in semi or controlled bursts like 2-3 in full auto

[rocky plover]

Best smg NGL

[vivid widget]

hey same here

[vivid widget]

haven't used it yet maybe i should

what attachments and what ammunition type?

[rocky plover]

I like the mpx alot as well but since it's 9mm, it's kinda limited on armor penetration

[rocky plover]

For mp7, AP for L3 armor, JHP for up to L2 armor
For 9mm smg, AP for L2, JHp for no armor

[marsh hornet]

it feels unbeatable without flash launcher

[rocky plover]

Attachments wise kinda preference for smg tbh, not a whole lot of options either

[rocky plover]

Use shotguns with buckshot, they are so OP and suspects have no armor on greased palms

[vivid widget]

m1014 my beloved

[marsh hornet]

should i give ai team buckshot shottys as well?

[rocky plover]

It's good, but I'm loving the 590m rn

[rocky plover]

They perform better with rifles imo, especially 7.62x51 rifles

[surreal pelican]

Trench shotgun but modern

[rocky plover]

Yeah lol, mainly because of the reload speed

[marsh hornet]

i have a lot of trouble getting them not to kill fisa officer and not lose any civis

[surreal pelican]

I'm thinking of looping back to the main office and clearing the top office before going to warehouse after securing the weapon cache

Only worry is that I'll get sniped by enemies from the outside

[rocky plover]

Yea that can be annoying when playing with swat AI

[surreal pelican]

For that fuckass jack, you gotta be careful with shots. 2 tap to incap him and pray he doesn't get artery

Then for civs I just stun them if they're in range and ask them to move to exit

[rocky plover]

I keep forgetting that because I barely use swat AI

[marsh hornet]

im learning greased palms is extremely luck based

[surreal pelican]

But even then, even if you kill Jack you'll still get a B minimum assuming all civs are alive and well. I got this with one officer dead

[marsh hornet]

im pretty sure for it to count towards the trophy he has to live unfortunately

[surreal pelican]

It is, something I tried that might've helped is that to catch them off guard and alive, more stress = more gunfight

[surreal pelican]

Which one?

[marsh hornet]

fisa officer

[surreal pelican]

Oh too old, I think you just need to make sure you get a C minimum iirc

[rocky plover]

He can be Incapped as well

Just make sure you arrest him

[surreal pelican]

Yea

I suggest using 5.56 JHP or .300, just two tap him on chest

[rocky plover]

It's B minimum for hard achievement

[surreal pelican]

But there's a chance he might die thanks to bleedout

[surreal pelican]

Oh, Christ I got the achievement on my first lethal 😂

Yea but even if Jack dies, you still can get B. Just make sure absolutely no civs die

[civic fiber]

who the hell is Jack 😭

[surreal pelican]

The FISA agent

From Greased Palms

[rocky plover]

^ The blond dude

[civic fiber]

oh “the guy”

huh

[surreal pelican]

Aka the guy who starts screaming like a baby after he takes hostages

[rocky plover]

Main objective suspect

[civic fiber]

did you guys see that?

[surreal pelican]

Yea lol, it got removed

[marsh hornet]

ill try it out but if i use buckshot i wont have much luck incapping him

[daring rampart]

#1461937718807236800 Read this. could work for you. good luck.

[rocky plover]

Yea autobot it's nothing

[rocky plover]

Use pistol on him instead

[vivid widget]

no i've gotten it with C grades
you just need to complete all the major objectives

[marsh hornet]

yea i will

[marsh hornet]

what traits are you using on officers?

[rocky plover]

Oh ok, thought it's B and above

[vivid widget]

uhhh you don't use swat ai for hard
i'm just playing with people

[vivid widget]

yeah so if a civvie dies have fun

[dapper plover]

I cant play on cross play even I have it enabled is something wrong with it

[marsh hornet]

honestly i make it so much farther on commander

[rocky plover]

Yea a civvie dead almost always puts you at D or lower

[vivid widget]

no if a civvie dies you restart
because you can't complete the "rescue all civs" objective

[rocky plover]

Best ones I found out are
For S ranks I suggest 2 negotiators and 2 pacifiers
For lethal approach I suggest 2 veteran, 1 armorer, 1 nutritionist
2 negotiators, 1 armorer 1 nutritionist is also good as AspidZeus said (kinda like a hybrid build)

[rocky plover]

Yea pretty much

[civic fiber]

its hard to get those traits on your officers

[marsh hornet]

are stingers better than flashes or nah

[rocky plover]

Just keep making and deleting new commander saves until you get them lol

Or fire them and hire new ones

[civic fiber]

No, stingers cause freindly fire and only have a slight bigger blast radius than flashbangs

[civic fiber]

wont that stress out all the other ones though

[rocky plover]

Stat wise yes cos 12m radius instead of 10m, and slightly more morale damage, but I hate stingers so much for about 6 reasons so I use flashes

[rocky plover]

Idk tbh, only played commander mode once for the achievements and watch

So never fired them

[civic fiber]

bros game is sunshine and rainbows

[rocky plover]

It's mostly multiplayer or true solo 😂

Cos fuck babysitting AI

[tidal sleet]

I haven’t played multiplayer with others since the game went to consoles

mainly due to me not installing the anti cheat

[covert aurora]

Which game?

[tidal sleet]

RoN

[rocky plover]

Wait what, Im confused

Ron has anti cheat? Since when

[lost inlet]

[covert aurora]

RoN doesnt have anti cheat....

[rocky plover]

That's what I thought lol but man got me confused

[vivid widget]

ai is mostly just utility and convenience at this point

[rocky plover]

Just enable cross play and that's it

[tidal sleet]

I hate console players

[rocky plover]

Or don't enable it then

And play with pc only

[covert aurora]

Only componet that might need to be installed is Epic

But thats about it.

[rocky plover]

Didn't even need to tbh

Just linked them through browser and that's it

[covert aurora]

Fair enough

[tidal sleet]

Yeah kept getting a thing just saying can’t connect to epic servers

[prime forge]

how to switch firing mode on keyboard

[tidal sleet]

X

[prime forge]

thanks

[covert aurora]

Yeah... thats for the crossplay componet and theres no way around that. Just when you start a game just disable crossplay

[tidal sleet]

even when I did couldn’t play online

[covert aurora]

Thats probably epics servers shitting the bed and being unlucky

[frosty crow]

i just have to do the home invasion dlc and ill have all missions S ranked

yay

[tacit gull]

i love epic games so much

what an amazing company that create so many wonderful things

[vivid widget]

epic games is genuinely so fucking dogshit

i don't know how i'm supposed to invite people to my game through it

[tacit gull]

well here's the best part

you dont have to invite anyone to your game

because the servers dont even work :3

try to beat that, STEAM

[rocky plover]

Lmao

[tidal sleet]

CS2 servers work better

[vivid widget]

such a shame suppressors aren't good for rifles, i really like them

[tidal sleet]

I use them on every rifle while not doing a beat cop run

[cedar mulch]

In Hard mode, will Narcos be 2.3?

[rocky plover]

Idk, exact values for hard

[marsh hornet]

i finally did greased palms dude

[quasi coral]

Man I'm seriously thirsting for the update

[surreal pelican]

Welcome to the Hard Mode club

[quasi coral]

Lord please I'm begging you for the update to hit

[surreal pelican]

Just 9 more missions

[surreal pelican]

I want the carry rail for the G36C....

[quasi coral]

I want a hybrid sight...

And my thumb to not clip into my PEQ

[surreal pelican]

I want more.. drip

[quasi coral]

What I'm saying

[tacit gull]

considering literally the only thing they showed off so far is different rail attachments i wouldnt be to hopeful its coming soon

[quasi coral]

I wish all if not most cosmetics to have 3 set variants, black, some sort of green, and multicam

[quasi coral]

BLASPHEMY

[surreal pelican]

This...........

[quasi coral]

I think the devs severely underestimate how IMPORTANT the cosmetics are

What's life when there is only one multicam load bearing vest..

Fullstopfullstopfullstop

[cedar mulch]

Which factions do you reckon will retaliate against the LSPD in future?🤔

[surreal pelican]

The FISA LB..

[quasi coral]

The Dynamic Plare Carrier is a second, but it definitely looks a little empty

[quasi coral]

Feeling Black Sentinel ain't gonna take this well

[surreal pelican]

I meant the one you get from port

[quasi coral]

I know, I am talking about the Dynamic being a second from the LB you are talking about

[cedar mulch]

Black Sentinel operates with caution; should they actually launch an assault on the police station, it would expose their position.

[surreal pelican]

Ohh, I haven't used the dynamic. Looks funny

[quasi coral]

Same here twin

[cedar mulch]

If Judge is so formidable, why didn't he opt for the actual special forces? I reckon that would suit him better.

[covert aurora]

because reasons

[quasi coral]

He wouldn't be able to yell at people to get down on the ground

[covert aurora]

"put the gun down!"

[stone bay]

the whole game should have been about special forces not swat

[surreal pelican]

I mean... It's implied he was a GWOT veteran and a subject of the USIA's experiments and possibly also worked for them as black ops

[quasi coral]

"On your knees!"

[quasi coral]

I agree the game has potential if it went for a direct combat special operations gaem

But I don't know, the policing aspect is sorta more unique and fun and it's also a great remake of SWAT 4

[burnt quarry]

Does anyone have Advice for the Dorms Achievement? How do i get it in under 5 minutes?

[prime forge]

can a bomb spawn outside the school in the school mission

[marsh lark]

No

[prime forge]

ok thanks

[cedar mulch]

Without USIA's assistance, Judge would have become homeless due to his PTSD.

[cedar mulch]

Will Judge become the antagonist protagonist?

[surreal pelican]

Taser with Beanbag shotgun was what I used and I made AI handle all arrests, breaching shotgun to open locked doors

[surreal pelican]

[quartz axle]

ザラセヨウ

[dry ridge]

Anyone else got the Usp45 clipping into the gloves

[chilly thorn]

blue is better then a camo option

we need more blue

[tacit gull]

TRUE

imagine LSPD uniform in blue

or rather navy

[quasi coral]

I guess bro

[tacit gull]

we also need a softshell that isnt GRAY

[covert aurora]

we need a alot of things

[tacit gull]

yeah like a good game

[covert aurora]

🤔

i'd say more lobby slots and roles

[tacit gull]

personally i'd take the old uniform system if it meant we'd see major improvements to other areas

[quasi coral]

A ranger green and multicam option for it would go so crazy

[tacit gull]

i mean i dont hate the gray

it goes hard with the lb vest

but its like one of the two torso options with no variants

speaking of

how do we have ONE SHIRT DESIGN

[quasi coral]

And that really cool FAST helmet stuck on black and white 😭

It looks cool and all but the plain white without any tan straps or anything has tons of limitations

[tacit gull]

I personally wish we could go back to the old helmets without all of that UGLY ass velcro

[quasi coral]

Personally that is not a major issue for me

[tacit gull]

also with tan cans 🤤

[covert aurora]

i like the current system, i just wish rather then vest variants we can customize our own vests to our own liking

[quasi coral]

I think there are some really weird stuff like the removal of the earpieces on the Kosoku helmet or the inconsistency of the variants

[quasi coral]

🗣️ 🙏

[tacit gull]

The problem is that would end up running like dogshit, there's a reason we're stuck with this despite the fact VOID have their modular pieces

[covert aurora]

probably would, but hey at least it would be kool 😎

[quasi coral]

Imagine this game with the option to customize your helmet, vest, belt kits and the attachment on your guns 🤤

Although that'll require it's own update and an overhaul, the current system is good but it has so much limitations and lack of variety

[covert aurora]

bring forth the ground branch customization system

maybe in ron 2

[covert aurora]

if they make a ron 2

[quasi coral]

Lord please no

I think if RoN gets a 2 it'll be a super massive update with tons of advertising

[covert aurora]

with a battlepass

[tacit gull]

I HOPE NOT

[covert aurora]

why not? it be great!

[tacit gull]

blackfoot be like: we will make attachment go on point on vest
videogame? what's that?

[covert aurora]

🤣

[hybrid wren]

Oh damn

I'm getting really frustrated by campaign

[covert aurora]

hm?

[hybrid wren]

I kill suspects, get killed by a trap, my men get stress, mission failed

Retry, try to make it less lethal, but beacuse of that i get killed again

Also that lobby you have to walk trough to retry and the score menu

It's all so time consuming

[covert aurora]

understandable

[hybrid wren]

I also have a bad habit of shooting suspects and trying to make them surrender since i don't want stress for my cops

But then they would turn around and headshot me

[gritty nova]

Try to take cover then

Or just shoot them the second they aim at you to prevent situations like that

[gritty nova]

(If you don’t want to stress your cops that would be best done with a beanbag)

[hybrid wren]

It's a skill issue, i tend to lose my guard a bit when i'm trying to persuade them, also usually since we exchanged shots another suspect would run in and blast me while i'm too concentrated on a guy i'm trying to make surrender

[gritty nova]

Yeah so cover would be your best bet

Especially one with only one entrance so you can focus on one spot and not be paranoid looking behind your back if anyone’s coming and then getting killed by the guy in front of you

[hybrid wren]

I'll keep it in mind

Also, i find it pretty difficult to guess a time where it's most appropriate to use grenades, since there's so few of them, though it's probably easily solved by map planning

[tacit gull]

map planning doesn't do anything

You use grenades when you see a suspect and you duck back in cover

Throwing grenades in rooms without knowing exactly where the suspect is and landing it at their feet is useless

[gritty nova]

I had a fun situation yesterday when there was a guy I was yelling at and he aimed at me so I shot him in the belly (with a lethal weapon) he got staggered, then started to aim at me and fired but missed so I shot him in the belly again, and it repeated literally 4-5 times until I said “I’m done” and shot him in the neck the second he pulled his gun out

[hybrid wren]

[hybrid wren]

Tis but a scratch ahh suspect

[gritty nova]

I also almost died because there was a guy behind him

[gritty nova]

I hate how they just ignore shots other than headshots or shots to the chest

[hybrid wren]

I wonder if you can disarm them without straight up blowing their hands off

[gritty nova]

I shot a guy that had a hostage (I was from the side of him so I could shoot him in the body but not so much in the face because that would be very risky) right above the hip with the MkV, and guess what? He shot the hostage and just run away shooting at me

He didn’t even notice that I shot him

Absolutely no reaction just like if I missed

Or maybe I did 🤔

[hybrid wren]

Maybe it missed all his organs or he digested the bullet

[gritty nova]

I tried shooting a guy in the hand to disarm him but he just started shooting back at me so idk if that’s even working

Blowing hands off with a shotgun works though

[hybrid wren]

But they die so fast

Wish we could like torniquet them or smth

But that would be bad for gameplay

[gritty nova]

I pretty much always aim for the head so a tourniquet wouldn’t help lol

I recently played neon tomb and every time a guy with a bomb jacket came near me and put his hands to his chest I just blasted him with a shotgun right in the face

And it worked

No one exploded on me

[hybrid wren]

Yeah, no way you're detaining these guys alive

Like, what if they have some detonation mechanism that doesn't require hands? What if someone else has the remote, how do you expect people desperate enogh to strap a bomb on themselves to not pull some shady stuff afterward

[gritty nova]

That’s why I’m expecting a fun time S ranking it

[unborn elbow]

what gun has the lowest injury debuff?

[dry ridge]

One could try the german method

[jolly verge]

Do you mean angle recoil?

[rocky plover]

GA51 for rifles, pistols ofc since they're not effected by it, smg's are the most effected

[rustic wigeon]

There's no way that bridge section on relapse is real man

[unborn elbow]

yes

[rustic wigeon]

Sorry I'm off topic

[rocky plover]

Run forest run

[rustic wigeon]

I did, then the lady terrorist burst through the second set of doors and lit me up

Perfect pincer by the terrorists, well played

[rocky plover]

[rustic wigeon]

Taking a break for now

[rocky plover]

Try the other spawn, safer

For crossing the bridge

[rustic wigeon]

Yeah I was thinking of that, how long until the bombs go off on that map?

[rocky plover]

30 standard, 20 hard

[rustic wigeon]

30 is plenty

[rocky plover]

Yea

[rustic wigeon]

The rng is messing me up on that bridge, the door has been open every time

I've been using the entrance spawn since i thought it would be easier to get all of the bombs.

[rocky plover]

Pretty much the same distance and time to reach both

[rustic wigeon]

I'll try the other spawn tomorrow. To be fair, it's kinda my fault since I was using the vk since I was a little bored of the beanbag.

I hope it gets a buff one day

[rocky plover]

Yea hope so, cos it became trash after gas nerf

[prisma wyvern]

I only started playing a bit ago but I see these ron vids on yt and there’s like gas station and motel missions with different incap animations. Are those deleted missions or a mod or something?

[storm belfry]

Old versions of the game

[prisma wyvern]

Why would they delete missions?

[rocky plover]

no idea, I miss old port and old hotel

[storm belfry]

Changing lore and general direction of the development

They'll probably eventually add it back if they wanna throw it back into the lore

[jolly verge]

GA51 and G3A3 while ADSing

[rocky plover]

and pistols, since they're unaffected xD

[storm belfry]

Reminds me of my legs always getting blown off in missions

Rarely do I get upper body injuries

[rocky plover]

legs and arms for me

[prisma wyvern]

I really like the game but I feel there’s too little content relative to how long the game has been out. I understand it’s a small dev team apparently.

[storm belfry]

Small and Decentralized

[prisma wyvern]

Surprisingly open multiplayer lobbies have been the most fun. People try and teach me things like leg shots usually incap rather than kill, unfortunately I usually bring a shotgun so a few mistakes were made. I use dorms as a warm up mission and I had some guys blast chief keef while rushing everyone.

[rocky plover]

yeah multiplayer can be something... hahha

[storm belfry]

Blasting Chief Keef? Welcome to the Chicago PD lol

The RoE is just don't shoot innocents

[rocky plover]

@marsh lark we've got war over in #🎨ron-screenshots-and-art

@coarse osprey omg they keep coming

[jolly verge]

Free money

[rocky plover]

jeez it's really an ambush lmao

[rigid depot]

Which pistol is best for a beat cop run

[jolly verge]

5-7 or MK-V

[coarse osprey]

[jolly verge]

[rocky plover]

lmao, always late to the party

[coarse osprey]

[rocky plover]

hahahhaha

lmao is #🎨ron-screenshots-and-art completely locked down for now?

[coarse osprey]

yep

[jolly verge]

Quarantine zone

[rocky plover]

[coarse osprey]

no more screenshots

dont give them ideas

[rocky plover]

you know, true

done. xd

[storm belfry]

Pray the don't gain access to #📛guns-and-gear

[rocky plover]

too much work for them to get access to it

they invaded all the other channels that allow media though (yesterday)

[storm belfry]

I've seen people do worse tbh

[stoic thistle]

What happened?

[storm belfry]

like once had a group who would infiltrate staff just to bypass verification

[rocky plover]

bots invaded us!

[storm belfry]

The Scammer Hoard attacked

[rocky plover]

damn

oh it's open now

[coarse osprey]

the damn bots

[stoic thistle]

Clankers.

[coarse osprey]

they are like suspects and we come to arrest them, and you guys are the civilians

[rocky plover]

hahahha true, now they're choosing another venue to occupy

[storm belfry]

Eman always S ranks ig

[rocky plover]

😂 with the flash launcher

[hybrid wren]

Would game be easier if you equip yourself and all bots with flash launchers

[storm belfry]

He uses all 4 flash Grenades on 1 suspect ❤️

[rocky plover]

ikr lol

[rocky plover]

yes

[storm belfry]

Throws in 2 tubes of a rubber 12g

[hybrid wren]

Gotta try it out

[rocky plover]

meanwhile infarlock has the pepperball (takes long to kick in), always late to the party

[storm belfry]

He's still getting out of bed half way throughout the shootout

[coarse osprey]

[real cobalt]

Games do you play on a PC?

[cedar mulch]

Would it be preferable if Ron reintroduced ladder climbing, power cuts, and snipers in PvP mode?

[coarse osprey]

🤷‍♂️
would love them regardless, i think a custom map has ladder climbing that was part of a contest last year or so

[valid current]

i got it omg
i did relapse on hard diff

i literally made the most stupid build for my ai swatbots

and it worked lol

heavy steel + m32a1 + all slots for grenades for m32a1

[jolly verge]

It's not stupid build

[rocky plover]

not stupid, literally meta

[rocky plover]

although you can give them 0 slots for it and they would still have infinite ammo, and then give them wedges, c2 and all the other good shit

[solemn patio]

Oh fuck yes Id love that

I want ai and player snipers

Imagine an M60 long tactical that locks you to SMGs

[valid current]

WAIT REAL?

[rocky plover]

ye ^

[frosty crow]

getting the m32 has made s ranks so much easier

[civic fiber]

does this work for all other wepons?

[rocky plover]

yes but you need to give them at least 1 primary mag, the reason 0 mags only works for m32a1 launcher is because it already has a "1 free mag"

[vivid widget]

basically the ai are just large backpacks of utility

[rocky plover]

exactly

[vivid widget]

genuinely really funny that they just have infinite ammo and the game makes no attempt to tell you this

or that wedges and c2 come in sets of 2 per slot

[rocky plover]

ikr, i had to figure all that by trial and error basically

[frosty crow]

its nice walking around with 16 wedges and c2

[rocky plover]

ye at least they are useful at something lol

[frosty crow]

honestly i trust the ai more than a actual human

i just hate when they body block me

[rocky plover]

fair enough, depends who you encounter in multiplayer though

[frosty crow]

1 last mission till i have S ranked the entire game yay

i shouldnt have put this off for so long ngl

[frosty crow]

just walking in the first door on lawmaker and my second man gets one tapped from the stairs

[rocky plover]

lol

[rocky plover]

standard or hard?

[mystic palm]

Whats better slug or buckshot?

[hybrid wren]

Depends if you are deer hunting or bird hunting

[rocky plover]

personally buckshot even though it only penetrates up to L1 armor while slugs penetrate up till L3 armor

but if you hit limbs it's always 1 shot (dismember) irrelevant on armor which makes buckshot so op whereas slugs suck and require more shots if you hit limbs

and also with buckshot it's much easier to hit a target due to it having 8 pellets, with slugs I feel like might as well use a rifle, since it's a single projectile

[frosty crow]

just standard

unless doing it on hard gives like an achievement i prob wont do it

[rocky plover]

ah i see, which one was the hardest for you to S rank? mine was 3 letter triad on hard

[frosty crow]

that one was the easiest for me because i went in through the loading bay got it done in 1 try

[rocky plover]

lol easier than gas station?

[frosty crow]

basically

[rocky plover]

lmao

[frosty crow]

Greased palms was the hardest

i did that before we had the launcher as a primary

so it was just beanbag shotguns

[rocky plover]

yea same

idk why everyone has difficulties with greased palms

it's mentioned like every day here with it being so hard

[frosty crow]

beanbag cant pen boxes but bullets can

[rocky plover]

ye it is one of the hardest ones, but not the hardest mission

[frosty crow]

we have ptsd of getting wallbanged 24/7

[rocky plover]

true but that applies to all maps

[frosty crow]

not really the only other map i have ever been wallbanged on was ides of march

[rocky plover]

i meant this

but i get what you meant, the open warehouse can be frustrating

[frosty crow]

wait 1 watch counts for 7% of customization?

[rocky plover]

does it? idk, didn't have the stats tab yet when I had gotten the watch

[bitter iron]

The things I do

to get an A+/S

I have restrained myself so fuckinmg mcuh preventing myselfs fromn shooting these guys

with my lethal weapon lmao

[frosty crow]

dont use lethal???

use non lethal primary and just flash bang the hell out of them with the m32?

[chilly thorn]

I would say that the ladder could be brought back but not as an actual like usable thing but used in an intro animation, l feel like we need an intro animation of deploying for all the maps anyway.

[coarse osprey]

[gritty nova]

I think this is the least important thing that we need in this game 😭

[bitter iron]

I have ap epperball rifle and a 1911 just in case

also holy shit this postal mission annoying me

[frosty crow]

dont use the pepperball rifle

[bitter iron]

if it works it works

[frosty crow]

it doesnt tho

[gritty nova]

If you want to S rank missions then you don't need a lethal gun "just in case something happens"

[gritty nova]

Beanbag is a lot better

[faint tree]

The pepper ball rifle is the worst thing you can use. If you don’t have a launcher just use beanbag shotgun

[frosty crow]

if you dont like the m32 launcher just use the beanbag shotgun

just dont headshot with the beanbag cause it can kill

[surreal turtle]

Anyone want more outfits?

In ron

[frosty crow]

i would like more boots and gloves

[surreal turtle]

I would like just more in general

[ebon kelp]

ok its been like 2 months since i played, has the game had better taser animations

[bitter iron]

a balaclava without going to multiplayer sounds neatr

[surreal turtle]

On console

@bitter iron

[prisma wyvern]

Was tryna S grade spider. Couple tries I actually got everyone tied up non lethal. Very last weapon evidence is stuck under a piece of wood on the roof :)

[surreal turtle]

Dude that sucks

[rocky plover]

if you're with AI, try telling them to search and secure

[prisma wyvern]

Doin it solo I don’t like having them in my way. I’ll try with em I guess.

[rocky plover]

ye I'm the same, but took a chance of telling you

[loud raven]

Sorry for interrupting but what are we talking about if we are talking about how to get S grade in missions then I know

[rocky plover]

S ranks is basically perfect score achieved by getting every suspect alive including all objectives and soft(hidden) objectives and evidence etc...

[frosty crow]

why cant i post pictures in the screenshot channel

i have a funny glitch picture

[prisma wyvern]

I guess I could tell them to stay put and search after everything is done

Got a full lobby now I’ll do it later

[rocky plover]

ye not a bad idea

[digital cedar]

are there currently problems with multiplayer on long distances?

[chilly thorn]

It would be cool though you can’t lie

The loading screens are boring give us a lil animation of the elevator opening for example

[frosty crow]

oh i just noticed something for some reason when i host a lobby and someone joines my audio cuts out

weird

[quasi leaf]

Anyone have problems with loading speed? my game takes real long to load into headquarters especially

[desert vapor]

Finally S ranked all missions. Damn that was a chore

[slender jungle]

How did you do the last two

[analog knot]

Any more updates or just new body pillows?

[surreal turtle]

Ok can someone give me a loadout idea because I’m bored

[valid current]

im so done with hardmode 🔥

around 40 hours of row attempts time

[civic fiber]

5k hours Celeste mapper 💀

you like torturing people don’t you

[valid current]

its me yeahh

celeste is just a game about mechanical memory

ron is harder🔥

(probably not it is just another type of difficulty)

[chilly thorn]

i fucking love hardmode!1!

I do wish their was like a middle ground difficulty though because it just feels like "Very Easy, Easy, Nightmare."

[valid current]

the part of the game which doesnt let u play it, it forces u to live in it

[civic fiber]

like wet diarrhea crusting overnight

[valid current]

😭

[surreal turtle]

Anyone got crazy ideas for a loadout

[dull nova]

Elegantly worded

[shadow ether]

Grenade launchers only, all flashbangs, for the entire team

Alternatively, 15 tazers

[wind gyro]

thats how dx12 works

[next spindle]

never getting a update

[surreal turtle]

@shadow ether ok

[slow crane]

To get the Developer's Watch, does firing officers count as losing them? Or is it only if they're killed/resign?

[remote iris]

Anyone wanna play with me im on console but dont have ps plus

[slender jungle]

lol

[bitter iron]

odd question

when Judge dies

Who are the "Feds" that TOC or our teammates talk about?

Is it HRT or some other specific squad?

[remote iris]

Is anyone on console

[surreal turtle]

Me

[rocky plover]

You can fire and replace

No Kia and resigns anything else is fine for watch

[remote iris]

C

[magic comet]

In my opinion you can almost run every attribute combination in Ironman since u only need to pass in standard and can reduce Stress on easy maps

[vivid widget]

which rifles would you say are the best actually? including recoil and otherwise

[magic comet]

Depends on your targets in-game...😅

[magic comet]

I'm in love with the mcx

[jolly verge]

If only they did not downgrade it's caliber to 5.56 🤮

[vivid widget]

i’ve been trying the mcx i like it a lot

[vivid widget]

can’t it be chambered in both 5.56 and .300 blkout in real life?

[jolly verge]

Yes

[vivid widget]

should just give us the option to run either or

[covert aurora]

Let us customize recievers for .300 or 5.56

[cedar radish]

Tips for the hanged man?

[river cobalt]

Yup started a long time ago I think a few weeks after release on console.

[unborn elbow]

so it has no effect? thats cool

[worldly root]

what was everyones experience with S ranking carriers of the vine?

[bitter iron]

uhm

I did not realize you can do a necksho

[worldly root]

yeah my first time using a shotgun with a slug i got a neckshot and i kinda felt bad ngl

[chilly thorn]

Void give us a 9mm AR

they are a vibe

[worldly root]

ok nvm i just found out its ring around the rosey with suspects

[woeful frost]

stuck on rust belt

[prisma wyvern]

How do I get the grenade launcher primary

[stable kernel]

Play or PC, otherwise not possible on console if you don't already have it

Aside from waiting for the next DLC of course

[lofty kernel]

Pay for the deluxe edition

[prisma wyvern]

Looks like I won’t be able to get it. I bought the game and season pass separately, and there’s no add on option. Essentially it’s $70 for those 3 weapons lol

[lofty kernel]

Yes that's right

[stone bay]

the people who should have been sent in the first place

[vivid widget]

are there good use cases for the smgs or is it really just rifles or nothing

[chilly thorn]

Smgs are really good, They all have their own specific niches. Insanely good for close quaters and the only viable weapons in full auto really.

[covert aurora]

Spc9 is best smg

[chilly thorn]

its pretty good

I like the Ump45 alot

Spc9 has an insanely high firerate

so its good for intimidation and accurate bursts with high damage

[vivid widget]

i’m a fan of the mp5 and mp7 though i don’t know how they stack up in this game

[chilly thorn]

They are great!

[drifting prawn]

what does the #1066374738353586206 mean compared to like the us #1 vcs and stuff

[chilly thorn]

The only smg I dont really like THAT much is Mp5sd because it feels really weak but its still fun to use and looks great