👮ron-discussion

[marsh lark]

Bugs will be fixed eventually, with each update or patch a lot of bugs get fixed.

[cedar mulch]

During 2023 VOID AMA , they focused on matter of PVP.

They addressed these issues during 2023 AMA. At the time, they acknowledged flaws in old PvP system, but expressed willingness regarding new PvP .

[tacit gull]

There is literally no guarantee of that to be fair, the game's biggest update left the game in the worst state it has ever been in

[marsh lark]

Wrong reply or?

[tacit gull]

Mine wasn't

[marsh lark]

Bugs do get fixed though. Obviously not all of them, and it is true that some future updates always include or create bugs, but it does not change what I tried to say.

@chilly thorn Knock it off

[keen rover]

this game does not need PVP

[chilly thorn]

The thing about pvp is that it sounds like a natural thing but when you think about it more you realize how much it wouldn't work.

[keen rover]

leave "tactical multiplayer PVP" to rainbow six siege. if ready or not gets multiplayer, siege players might flock over and make the game toxic

[wind gyro]

pvp was scrapped for a reason

[latent crescent]

yes please i fully agree

if void was fully going for money they would have put this game on xbox gamepass already

[chilly thorn]

If VOID wastes the MLO on a PVP mode even though they are their coolest and most creative faction I'll be so mad.

[latent crescent]

please please please no pvp

[tacit gull]

yes pvp

[latent crescent]

banned

[chilly thorn]

kills gratr*

[cedar mulch]

They discussed this very issue two years ago. It was mentioned in 2023 AMA video. You can find it by searching on YouTube.

[tacit gull]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-gif-3572040316452832612

[chilly thorn]

thats me, fr fr, on god.

[cedar mulch]

I suspect PVP may no longer prioritise MLO.

[chilly thorn]

The MLO feels way to important to the lore for PVP enemies.

[tacit gull]

mlo gang 4 life

[chilly thorn]

I hope they dont fuck up the MLO's in their dialouge once they get a map, It could be so easy to make them sound to corny.

[tacit gull]

I CAN FEEL THEM

[potent oak]

What’s the point of choosing pump shotgun? Does it do more damage than the others?

[tacit gull]

throwing

[latent crescent]

makes more sense for an underfunded swat team

easier to control too, and much more fun to use

[chilly thorn]

Gun feel, Personal Preference.

[cedar mulch]

I'm rather doubtful whether they'll only introduce MLO as the sole hostile faction, or whether other factions will be added. Because I believe PVP will feature several distinct modes.

[chilly thorn]

Same reason as using a pump IRL

[latent crescent]

they should let us use the pumps with rubber rounds

[tacit gull]

using pumps irl has completely different applications

[latent crescent]

idk why that was not a flippin option

[chilly thorn]

VOID should add a small gun jam system to piss off players

also unjam animations arecool

[keen rover]

they should let us manually push a button to pump the shotgun

ultra realism

[tacit gull]

police SOP usually dictates only designated painted guns should load less lethal rounds

[chilly thorn]

Rdr2 does that and its actually pretty sastisfying

[tacit gull]

this but unironically

we have the ammo switch system yet we cannot chamber rounds

shits crazy

[chilly thorn]

It feels incredible in RDR2 and it lets you lets you hold down the chamber for cool screenshots.

[tacit gull]

give us receiver gun controls actually

[chilly thorn]

Add a realistic P320 SO when a suspect drops it It kills everone in the room including themselves.

[latent crescent]

LMFAO

[chilly thorn]

There already is a mechanic for a suspect to misfire a gun when they drop it!

[latent crescent]

having ghost shells would be so peak

[tacit gull]

I still can't tell you if that's a mechanic or a bug

[latent crescent]

its probably like how skate 3 mechanics are just unfixed bugs

[chilly thorn]

Since sometimes it happens when the gun isn't like "Attached" To the suspect anymore (like when its a physics prop) I would say its a mechanic.

[tacit gull]

I kinda dont think so since the sound is super buggy and it happens when suspects have the delayed shot bug

[chilly thorn]

its still cool when it happens even if its a bug

gets a good jump out of me

[surreal pelican]

How do you guys breach the warehouse/conveyor belt area in greased palms?

[chilly thorn]

Basically clearing everything outside of it first and then trying to use the noise of those fights to draw a good amount outside to try and get them to surrender. Then just being super careful in the warehouse. Avoid the FISA office area for as long as possible (Which isn't too hard to do.)

[surreal pelican]

Thx, trying to redo Greased Palms on standard lethal for fun, always gets me and my officers dead

[hallow lodge]

Hello

[cedar mulch]

Does anyone know SheppLab? I reckon he'd be perfectly capable of creating cutscenes for VOID.

[surreal pelican]

Update: dumbass civilian didn't want to duck and got caught in the crossfire by Prescott's Shotgun

I'm starting to think if whether stingers can give a better outcome for greasy palms

[jolly verge]

Stingers are better than flashbangs, just make sure to not throw it under your legs

[tacit gull]

Did they actually fix the friendly fire thing on flashbangs?

[gentle void]

THIS AI pissing me off BRO

this idiots kept switching between 2 people with shields

[peak depot]

One guy decides to randomly go to another room with 2 suspects with his back turned to that exct room he is entering

Another one covers the doorway but instead of looking out he prefers to look at my character

[jolly verge]

Yeap

[tacit gull]

thank god

that shit had me going nuclear

[cedar mulch]

What is the value of RON's intellectual property, and is it sufficient to warrant the creation of derivative works by VOID?

[gentle void]

finished elephant on hard

got mad lucky 3 suspects in one room

Corridor to the auditorium

[cyan patrol]

having S ranked all missions made me hate the game and see all the annoying problems with it

so everytime they advertise it, it leaves a bad taste in my mouth since the game used to be amazing before the massive downgrades over time

bring back peak

[mystic echo]

Is a silencer actually effective ingame?

or is it there for fun

[marsh lark]

it has some function, such as less stress induced upon suspects and shorter hearing range

[mystic echo]

does the hearing range actually matter with how small most maps are, and what is stress induced upon suspects?

also is it better to use the socom suppressor on the arn180 or the sfmb brake

[marsh lark]

The stress is halved

[mystic echo]

and what is stress

[mystic echo]

socom suppressor says it increases accuracy, is that for like spray firing

[marsh lark]

High enough stress and suspects will be more agressive

[mystic echo]

oh

[mystic echo]

?

[marsh lark]

Not sure

[prime spear]

Suppressors?
Your ears too weak?

[mystic echo]

no it looks cool tho

[prime spear]

Hard to be Seal Team 6 without mods.

[mystic echo]

still looks cool

[jolly verge]

Accuracy stat does nothing, same for grips, all guns have 0 base spread, except shotguns with buckshot

[jolly verge]

If you not familiar with suspects stress mechanic - SFMB

[mystic echo]

i just shoot and hope they die

so sfmb?

[pliant frost]

yeah

[mystic echo]

will the muzzle flash be an issue

[pliant frost]

nah, muzzle flash with sfmb is almost gone

that's why sfmb is better than asr

[last dawn]

me when i die to the last suspect on 3 letter triad

[peak depot]

Sfmb also reduces recoil more

[pliant frost]

no it don't lol

[peak depot]

Yes it does at least last time i checked

Like %10

I don't know if it changed with lss

[queen sparrow]

What's an sfmb?

[pliant frost]

muzzle brake

[queen sparrow]

Alr thx

[peak depot]

Do stinger grenades have same hearing distance with gunshots or flashbang or less?

[pliant frost]

I don't know but I've been playing this shit for 450hrs and I never noticed any difference

[peak depot]

I wouldn't also but speadsheet says otherwise

[queen sparrow]

I think less but like barely a difference

[pliant frost]

This game is broken either way so...

[peak depot]

I just cleared relapse in hard mode and used 22 flashbangs

[peak depot]

Yeah swat ai is going backwards development lmao

[jovial lake]

any idea whats the best way to experience this game in vr

[pliant frost]

depends on a mission

[jovial lake]

no i mean like the vro mod

is there any other way than that

[gusty marten]

how do i stop my ai teammates from getting stressed during missions cuz like 3 of them are critical currently

[jolly verge]

Arrest more suspects alive

[gusty marten]

Lmao ive been trying to get A+ on 23 megabytes per second and my most recent attempt literally everyone started shooting immediately it was awful

[pliant frost]

I don't really know. Maybe if you're playing the Rust Belt, just jump to some random Texas desert or something. What do you mean, bro?

There is no other way to play RoN on VR

[jovial lake]

idk lmao im just trying to figure out how to set it up lol

[gusty marten]

Theres a game very similar to RoN on the meta store called tactical assault vr

[pliant frost]

Are you sure that everything is pluged in?

Maybe check your wifi connection

[jovial lake]

ill just watch a yt tutorial

[jovial lake]

i havent set anything up yet, i was just trying to figure out what mods/programs i need (if there was multiple ways to set it up and if theres a definitive best way)

[pliant frost]

Oh of course, so basically you just need a computer, and the mod, and the game, and wifi connection

[jovial lake]

yes but now what im seeing is theres a uevr mod and a non uevr based mod which is vro

is uevr outdated maybe?

[pliant frost]

oh of course so basically try both and let me know

[jovial lake]

lmao for sure

thank you

[pliant frost]

no problem buddy

[peak depot]

Which one has more range?

I read stingers have slightly more range but it seems to me that flashbangs actually have more

[jolly verge]

Ignore the cs gas radius, it's has been nerfed from 8m to 3m for 40mm and to 4.5m for nade one

[peak depot]

Is pepper cloud from stinger? Thanks btw

[jolly verge]

Pepper cloud from pepperballs

[tame valve]

are we getting an update this month

[stable kernel]

🌶️

What's the deal with pepper spray anyway?

[jolly verge]

It's shit

[stable kernel]

Who blends up peppers to spray? Chili powder always exists

[jolly verge]

https://tenor.com/view/ready-or-not-pepper-spray-swat-gif-24518306

[stable kernel]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/452425840274309120/1392977712242495558/pepperspray_cat.gif

[bitter mason]

Caught Prescott drinking the pepper spray

[livid yew]

ARN-180 is actually really cag

its like the honey badger

[pliant frost]

what the helly is honey badger

[livid yew]

an animal and....

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AAC_Honey_Badger

wait

so on hard difficulty does it just increase the amount of traps on trapped maps or does it spawn traps on other maps

[tacit gull]

It spawns traps on some maps (that don't make any sense to have traps)

[stable kernel]

Pepperidge farm remembers EA maps with traps

[covert aurora]

Invisible traps

[latent crescent]

isnt it meant to be like the brn-180

which theres a mod for, and is 1000000000000x better than the base game gun?

[tacit gull]

meth where a trap would go off every time you start the level

[tired jungle]

What the fuck is cag

[livid yew]

cag is cag

[livid yew]

idk it looks like a honey badger

[latent crescent]

its not honey badger

[latent crescent]

combat actions group like delta force or uh i forgot the rest

green berets maybe?

its just what the american special forces are

[livid yew]

ohhh yeah

because it doesnt have built in suppresor

makes sense mb

[livid yew]

yo this is dumb everyone talking about how like "oh sa58 and ga416 and best guns" but literally ARN-180 is its fast high damage short barrel low recoil high firerate people are too stubborn because they only try stuff from other games

[rocky plover]

yeah many think the ga416 is one of the best guns and it's even found on guides which is so wrong lol, yea ARN-180 slaps ngl

[livid yew]

i think what it is, is that people only use what they are familiar with

the ARN-180 is just overall a perfect gun

[rocky plover]

that is a factor yes, but sadly even popular youtubers put out so much misinformation

[livid yew]

i used to only use SA-58 and GA416 bc thats what youtubers recommended but if people just tried every gun for themselves it would really add some gun diversity to the gun community of this game

[rocky plover]

it slaps especially with JHP imho, perfect for all maps except for like 3 maps which have more than 1 suspect with level 4 armor

[livid yew]

yeah im using JHP rn and its amazing

[rocky plover]

yeah its so good

[livid yew]

wish i knew this for the hermit run

its always the content creators man like there are some good ones but most dont know anything

[rocky plover]

i only used SA58 once and never liked it, i did use the ga416 and mk18 a couple times cos i like them anyways, but there are so much better rifles like g36c, mcx, f90, arn180

[rocky plover]

yea agree

[livid yew]

SA-58 is too sluggish GA416 has abysmal recoil

[rocky plover]

plus i dont rly like the 7.62 rifles anyways

takes same amount of shots to kill on hard mode with 5.56 or .300 blackout

might as well take something more compact and handles better

[rocky plover]

i think the sa58 was overhyped alot cos it was the only 7.62 back then and people kept saying it's the best even after the g3 and ga51 was released lol

[livid yew]

GA51 is literallt the best 7.62

5.56 is mediocre .300 blackout is really good

[rocky plover]

yeah agree, but even then i still dont like 7.62 that much

[rocky plover]

due to this reason

[livid yew]

same

[livid yew]

thats why arn-180 is so good

[rocky plover]

yeah so versatile imho

[livid yew]

fr

[marsh lark]

People can play what they want. Yes some weapons are worse than others when it comes to control.

[high estuary]

i just gave my little sister the controller and put her on 4u gas station
as i was typign this she shot the DOA civilian and got gunned down by the team 😭

[livid yew]

she's become a true cop already

[rocky plover]

ye we're not saying what people should use, but spreading mis-information is not right

[rocky plover]

lmao xD

[high estuary]

"dont shoot dead people [sister name]"
"but i want to"

ok guys she's on her 3rd run (she shot the dead guy the second time)

SHE SHOT HIM AGAIN

[livid yew]

HELL YEAH

TELL HER THAT THE COMMUNITY ENCOURAGES THIS

[high estuary]

i told her

ok her 4th attempt

SHE SHOT HIM AGAIN

[livid yew]

its beautiful

[high estuary]

this is a message that she asked me to write: "i just dont like that guy he's dead anyways dont judge me"

[livid yew]

she's roleplaying as a true cop

[high estuary]

she said judge

[livid yew]

tell her that that guy has a skill issue for dying and should be murdered

[high estuary]

5th time and she said she wont kill him this time

[high estuary]

i told her

she said: "i agree he deserves death"

SHE SAID SHE WOULDNT KILL HIM AND STILL KILLED HIM DUDE ;SOB:

[high estuary]

SOMEONE GET IA

[livid yew]

tell her that she has become a true officer by killing defenseless civilians and should be awarded the silver star

[high estuary]

she keeps killing him im taking the controller and placing her in the gas station

[livid yew]

OH

TELL HER TO T-BAG ON MUDASIR

[high estuary]

NO

i told her there are even more people she can kill in the gas station and she walked towards it
im concerned

"i want those chocolate bars" she says as she magdumps the chocolate bars

she just shot her own team

[livid yew]

you sister sounds great, she is literally playing ready or not as intended AND larping as a police officer while doing it tell her i said this is so cag

[high estuary]

she asked what cag is

she just shot the teddy bears

[livid yew]

combat action group basically tacticool

[thick dome]

ARN180 is life 🙂

[livid yew]

.300 blackout is love arn180 is life

[high estuary]

bghnu7jdiwe3flp04`1 m3x mmkx

that was her 😭

[livid yew]

bro 😭

I GOT A IDEA

SEND HER TO GREASED PALMS ON HARD MODE

[high estuary]

I DONT HAVE GREASED PALMS UNLOCKED

[livid yew]

LIAR

[high estuary]

I ONLY HAVE INSINOUS TRAIL AND THE DLC'S 😭

wait is greased palms
a dlc

[livid yew]

nah

main story but send her to twisted nerve crackhouse then

[high estuary]

she says shes gonna find and kill chuck e cheese in the diner area
im concerned

66677777777777777

my sister said that

[livid yew]

did she send that?

[high estuary]

yes

uhm
probably not going to say

[livid yew]

its fine

[high estuary]

all im going to say is not enough for this game LOL

[livid yew]

yo but you should give her shotgun so she can exercise freedom

[high estuary]

i will
which shotgun

[livid yew]

supernova based off my username

[high estuary]

which mission do i send her to

[livid yew]

hmmm

crackhouse twisted nerve

[high estuary]

67 slay baddie

[livid yew]

your sister is a MENACE 😭

[high estuary]

"i like that thats my job"

[livid yew]

send her to the rat tunnels...

[high estuary]

i sent her into the house

[livid yew]

she might be cooked 😭

[high estuary]

oh my god she actually won a fight
i was not expecting her to do that tbh

she's in the rat tunnels

[livid yew]

she's cooked

[high estuary]

"oh thats a badguy that wants to be arrested"
"why"
"he wants to give up"
"does he think im hot"

[livid yew]

of course she one she's cag

[high estuary]

she also just got killed

[livid yew]

bro 😭

[livid yew]

☠️

[high estuary]

apparently it was team friendly fire because she shot the guy surrendering
"well he deserved it he looked like a rat himself"

[livid yew]

she aint wrong

tell me if she beats the level

wait u on console or PC?

[cosmic arrow]

Rite of Passage is executing Voll with extreme prejudice

[high estuary]

console

[livid yew]

damn modding the game is really fun

[high estuary]

yeah

i dont have steam + im on mac so i assume ron isnt available even if i had it

[livid yew]

ah i see

well it isnt terrible i mean RoN is still a great game without

[high estuary]

whats this red /1 that randomly pops up

[livid yew]

where on the screen

[muted root]

Man we're about to get Half Life 3 before a proper RON game w/ proper AI 🙄

[steep ridge]

proper ron game?

how many rons are there?

i really dont like the reboot of ready or not: modern warfare 3

[peak depot]

Are there any plans to add illuminator function to peq15?

[quasi coral]

Probably not

But it's in the realm of possibility

[thick dome]

combo light/laser PEQ next update

[peak depot]

It would be better to add illuminator function since the next update will bring multiple rail attachments

So we will already be able to use peq15 and laser

I really cant see shit sometimes with nvgs

[thick dome]

ah..bigger thing is magnified optics zoom levels

being able to actually use multi zoom...go a long way in helping that

[peak depot]

Even in cqb nvg has a lot of blind points

[thick dome]

i very rarely use NVGs

usualy tunnels ..sometimes on hide n seek

[cosmic arrow]

Is the correct UOF for Voll just lethal force?

[surreal pelican]

Yes and don't forget to ensure he has a closed casket funeral by using buckshot on his face when you see him

Do stingers cover a wider area over flashbangs?

[thick dome]

yes

but cause friendly fire dmg

[little hatch]

stingers do not cause friendly fire dmg

[thick dome]

oh yes they do..well civi dmg

[little hatch]

they dont do that either

[thick dome]

yes...they do

[little hatch]

if youre getting dinged for unauthorized then the civilian was already compliant

[thick dome]

yeah..so? either way, flashes dont

so for S runs..safer to use flahes

[little hatch]

stingers do more morale damage

[cosmic arrow]

Ah I’ll tack that on the AAR as an Improvement, I only magdumped him. Must buckshot next time.

[cosmic arrow]

They can’t take hostages if there are no hostages 😈

[thick dome]

just did a duo S on neon tomb..fun mission, but man that music is annoying lol

[cosmic arrow]

@surreal bobcat yo bro how did you make the view for the bodycam lower on the body?

Did you use Recorded or Not?

[void cobalt]

I like how my report just got deleted in the bug report channel

[stable kernel]

1. It is not a discussion channel to ask other users about bugs
2. Didn't follow format in the pins
3. Didn't even say what map it was
4. Provided no information to replicate the issue

[coarse sail]

I find it hilarious my AI teammates restrain dead bodies like "yeah let's put the guy in cuffs who just got his head filled with 20 round of 556"

[covert aurora]

Sometimes suspects have a chance of faking death

[coarse sail]

now that is something I did not know

thanks for the info 😆

[covert aurora]

Np!

[sick spade]

The bot Ai is so whack

Had an officer go down because he decided to go the longest way around to where the rest of the team was securing one last civilian and suspect on greased palms

Did everything else right

[covert aurora]

Wacking pathing issues! Kinda like old wow flight paths

[sick spade]

Real

[reef anvil]

See them fake death when I open their minds to buckshot

[covert aurora]

[sick spade]

Those mfs still find a way

[keen rover]

weird thought but it would be kinda cool if the commander guy uses gestures when giving commands like twirling his finger when telling gold/element to regroup

[sterile scroll]

i mean in the vro mod you have to actually do certain actions like that

[keen rover]

the VR mod?

[sterile scroll]

yurp

[cosmic arrow]

Then we need a flip the bird gesture to give suspects after we cuff them

[keen rover]

you already smack em on the dome

[coarse sail]

sooo if a suspect starts like moving away on theyre knees when restrained do I just... leave em? i mean it looks to me like theyre tryna escape but i smack em and its unauthorized use of force lol

[torpid onyx]

when a suspect is cuffed there is nothing they can do anymore you can ignore them

you can verbally command using the command list and tell them to move certain places though incase they're in the way somewhere

[coarse sail]

ok cool thanks

[coarse sail]

i will be using this i didnt know that

[torpid onyx]

it also works on suspects/civies with their hands up but not yet cuffed so if they're in a dangerous area you can have them move towards you into safety to make the arrest

[coarse sail]

okay that's a game changer because I've been risking my life to detain quite a bit 😆

thank you 🙏

[torpid onyx]

(it is very slow to do and if shots are being fired they will often stop moving and try and duck though but it's something atleast)

[coarse sail]

👍

[covert aurora]

build off this.. @coarse sail suspects and civies will move automatically into spot so you can move past them, or you have the option to pick them up standing in front of them and moving them

[gleaming fable]

gang, its been a while since i last played ron.

with the ability to choose difficulty, ai mods are no longer that useful anymore?

[tidal sleet]

They are still useful

no crack for ai does the same thing

[gleaming fable]

[cedar mulch]

Do you reckon we'll get the next DLC by early 2026?

[covert aurora]

it's possible

would be kool if we did

[cedar mulch]

It would be splendid if the next DLC included four or five maps.

[gleaming fable]

or continue the story that ended in the main game.

[covert aurora]

more maps would be awesome i agree

[covert aurora]

continue the investigation on FISA

[cedar mulch]

FISA and USIA are like two brothers from the same womb, both embodiments of evil. One is utterly corrupt, the other utterly deranged.

[sterile scroll]

lol why does the lumen mod boost my fps

[surreal pelican]

Id love to have a DLC expansion which takes the post investigation from post office and elysian further, which leads to maybe raids on FISA and USIA related infrastructure

[sullen jacinth]

sorry to the people in the US COOP group, my mic wasnt workin

i was there to watch the stream

[jovial lake]

Its ok I forgive you

[outer quail]

Is think with alt+F4 still work in ironman mode?

[jolly verge]

Yes

[outer quail]

That's good because I almost complete the game on ironman mode and need cover

[surreal pelican]

What mission U left with?

[surreal bobcat]

reshade https://www.nexusmods.com/readyornot/mods/2634

The mod for the camera itself https://www.nexusmods.com/readyornot/mods/4147?tab=description

[unkempt kayak]

Does anyone want to play Ron

[covert aurora]

yep

[outer quail]

Carrier to the vine

[surreal pelican]

Goodluck Officer

[unkempt kayak]

@outer quail I can join you if you need help

[covert aurora]

"carries of the vine... Carries of the vine.... carriers of the vine.... carries of the vine!"

[unkempt kayak]

I’m on PlayStation tho

[outer quail]

Thx

[outer quail]

We can play ron if you want but not ironman I want to do that in solo

[unkempt kayak]

Okay that’s fine I’m on PlayStation

[outer quail]

I'm on pc

[unkempt kayak]

Okay is ur steam account link to epic ?

[outer quail]

I think yes but don't know for sure

[unkempt kayak]

Okay

I’m in the game @outer quail

[weak anvil]

Anyone know how to fix cant connect to epic server?

[covert aurora]

it's probably epic having issues

[tacit gull]

nah epic would never

[weak anvil]

So do you guys know how to fix that?

[covert aurora]

it's more or less having to wait for epic to fix their end

[hallow tundra]

FR?

[weak anvil]

😭

[cedar mulch]

The weapon chosen by suspects in Sins of the Fathers is arguably the most bizarre I've ever encountered—they opted for an FAL in a cramped hotel room.

[queen crescent]

sorry is there a way to un select some preffered regions?

i do NOT want to play on 400 ping

i take that back

i just saw the button

[tacit gull]

It doesn't actually matter since eos will still shit you into servers on the other side of the planet

[late prism]

To be fair in ides of march one of the guys (I most commonly find him in the room with the balcony) uses a LMG (think it was the M203 or something) and in Relapse and Neon Tomb you can find people with RPKs.

[wooden moth]

can I become a supporter now?

[surreal pelican]

I don't think so since the supporter edition is off sale

[tacit gull]

No

[coarse sail]

to that i propose... fire

flamethrower

[smoky temple]

Is this game raytraced? I switched from a 4060 to a 9070 and all the reflections are MUCH smoother, clearer and overall nicer and i see this exact change only in raytracing stuff (if yes... pretty embarassing for me since i play this for a while now)

[jolly verge]

No

If reflections are smoother then you have upscaler enabled, which blends them

[smoky temple]

yeah but my gun also reflects stuff much clearer now with same settings
But yeah i use FSR on quality (and used DLSS on quality before)

[marsh lark]

FSR and DLSS do differ in terms of quality. I am not a nerd, so I cannot provide much relevant information, however: DLSS is only made for Nvidia cards, which means it should be better as they only focus on their product whereas FSR is made for all graphics cards on the market, so the quality may be slightly worse.

[tacit gull]

They're both kinda hideous but FSR is definetly worse

[marsh lark]

Right, but I would not berate AMD for that since they are making it for everyone.

[tacit gull]

The only thing DLSS alone is good for is DLAA

I've found its a lot smoother than every other anti-alias method

[late prism]

They should give us a flamethrower for SWAT that would obviously be an amazing idea and not have any negative side effects.

[marsh lark]

RoN players on their way to break every convention ever created

[solemn patio]

They wanted to creep battle rifles into an otherwise pretty fun level to make it harder

Still fun just

I dont fucking like suspect battle rifles

[marsh lark]

problem with all this is that they have the same fire rate/accuracy stats as their category

so someone with SA58 or other battle rifle will spray and pray as if they had an AK if I remember correctly

[tacit gull]

Yeah basically

[cedar mulch]

The Secret Service agents' grasp of AR weapons is inferior to that of Los Locos. At the very least, LL knows how to fit various accessories onto the MK18.

[tacit gull]

It used to be way worse where single fire weapons would essentially have no cap on suspects

so you'd have suspects emptying guns instantly

[cedar mulch]

It's rather peculiar that Secret Service agents favour using old firearms.

[solemn patio]

Aint that something?

[cedar mulch]

In certain scenarios, VOID's choice of firearms for suspects is rather peculiar. For instance, at farm, they actually equipped a group of women with large-calibre weapons.

[tacit gull]

[cedar mulch]

I reckon the damage inflicted by the suspect's rifle is pretty much the same regardless, but I do think agent going overboard with FAL.

[solemn patio]

Yeah that pissed me off, the bushes are so densely packed and they can see through it as if nothings there

Half the time Im shooting at nothing

[finite forge]

Why do I keep getting getting kicked from lobbies and why is there only one server on standard available

[burnt quarry]

Does anyone know if Ready or Not in VR works with the Oculus Quest 2?

[warped cave]

Is the update coming out this month 🤔

[cedar mulch]

Why has VOID released yet another pointless video? 3LT, I recall Shayne already covered this.

[gritty dome]

i got so excited

[halcyon osprey]

glad to see theres no update

[vestal mauve]

I've seen dead games release content faster

[gritty dome]

lol

[pliant frost]

shout out ready or bugged

[cedar radish]

What loadout do yall recommend

Cuz i have 5 AP mags for the AR, 1 AP mag for the firearm, 5 flashbangs, lockpick gun and a taser

I have light armor ceramic front and back

[gusty salmon]

chat, why is Ides of March so difficult on hard mode. I get sniped through the walls 😭

[gusty salmon]

depends what you're going for?

[pine geyser]

For what mission

[cedar radish]

Hospital and postal one since I got a really bad score on these

[pine geyser]

No AP

You'll overpenetrate

[gritty star]

I use 4 AP primary, 3 JHP secondary, 2 flashbangs, 2 stingers, 1 taser, light armor steel front and back, and anti flash goggles. This is what I use for every mission

[pine geyser]

AP will dump most of its energy into flying through and beyond your target, not into the target.
If the issue is lack of stopping power, AP will hamper you against unarmored targets.

[cedar radish]

Oh I see

[pine geyser]

This effect gets worse with increased muzzle velocity, naturally

[marsh lark]

Hardly imo

Overpenetration is a concern really with 7.62x51

[gritty star]

In my experience, using AP or JHP really doesn't matter unless it's your sidearm. For rifles, I use AP all day and it works out fine.

[pine geyser]

Should make a difference with 5.56 as well.
.300 is a slow ass cardtridge by design, so it doesn't struggle too much with that, but 5.56 is small and very fast so overpenetration is a big issue.
Not in that it can hit other people (though that too, obviously) but that it doesn't stun or drop a target as reliably as JHP which should get stuck and dump all of its energy into the intended target

REALISTICALLY the AK should have the least issues with this even using AP simply due to the ranges it's being fired at not sufficing for the round to stabilize itself properly yet, so it'll keyhole slightly and tumble, but no clue if that's rendered in game

[gritty star]

I use the SR-16 as my main firearm, and the average unarmored suspect only takes like 3 or 4 shots at most to take down, even with AP

[pine geyser]

JHP, center mass it'd be 2, so there's confirmation

[gritty star]

Not big enough of a difference in my opinion. 1 or 2 extra shots for unarmored and still able to penetrate armor sounds fine to me

[pine geyser]

On a mission you know has no armored suspects, but now also introducing considerably higher risk of hitting something BEYOND your target you didn't intend on hitting?

Two rounds more is more muzzle climb, more chaos, more noise, slightly more time of the perp firing at whatever THEY would like to hit,...

[gritty star]

I've never shot through a suspect and hit someone I didn't see by accident. Maybe I've just been lucky.

[pine geyser]

I'd guess so. That or you have excellent line of sight discipline

[vale plume]

That’s fatal

[gritty star]

Either way, you probably should only use AP against armored targets, but I just don't care enough to really switch. I always use AP in my primary and JHP in my secondary. I'm lazy

[vale plume]

Even unarmed targets will die anyways

[pine geyser]

Yes, two rounds later.

[vale plume]

I always shoot AP on all targets

[copper dome]

3 mags for ar 2ap 1jhp
2 jhp pistol or 2jhp 1ap
3 flash 1 stinger
1-2 c2
1 taser
1 lockpick
2 wedges

That’s what I take

Give or take I don’t know the exact amount but that seems accurate

[pine geyser]

Man, am I the only one that goes into a whole ass loadout session for each specific mission? 😂

I even customize what my guy looks like to match the mission brief

[copper dome]

I generally swap my ammo around and my throwable but that’s about it

The c2 can stay as its always useable same for wedges taser and lockpick.

Nothing else really needs to be changed mission to mission other then ammo and throwables

[gritty star]

I really am just too lazy to switch. Sometimes I switch from an AR to a shotgun, and I do change my outfit often, but that's the most I really do

[vale plume]

I see it’s stupid that unarmored will take many shots to die from a pistol

[pine geyser]

No actually, that's pretty realistic for the most part.
Same with an MP7 for example, doesn't tend to stop a properly adrenalized person very quickly at all.

A pistol has poorer shot placement, less energy...

[gritty star]

Yeah I've seen people tank a whole lot of 9mm in real life before going down

[vale plume]

I see mp7 isn’t instant death nor AR

[pine geyser]

AR moreso than MP7, but indeed.

[vale plume]

Maybe it’s because of missing

[gritty star]

No, they hit. One guy on meth got shot over 20 times, including 3 times in the head, before dying hours later in the hospital

[pine geyser]

In the Bundeswehr we drill with the MP7 to basically magdump into the lower torso if the Mozambique drill fails, which it is assumed it will

Submachine guns and machine pistols in general should just be viewed as full auto only

[vale plume]

I know MP7 causes instant death

[pine geyser]

In game?

[vale plume]

No not even in the game

[pine geyser]

Yeah that's why I asked.
The MP7 is relatively realistic in game. Too much recoil though, IRL it feels like a very loud airsoft gun to shoot, it doesn't climb at all

DEVS MAKE MP7 REALISTIC AND REMOVE RECOIL

[vale plume]

James reeves shot an mp7

[gritty star]

MP7s are cool ass firearms. I think I first saw them in Half Life 2

[vale plume]

Mp7 is the best , it’s still better than an (SMG/pistol) combined

[pine geyser]

As a PDW, or in certain use cases, yes.

[copper dome]

Debatable

[pine geyser]

As a regular anti personnel weapon, it's mostly just nice and close to recoilless, but it just doesn't stop a target reliably

Cleaning is a nightmare because the entire frame is one piece, grip to top tail and DOESN'T OPEN, so you gotta clean all the inside ridges through the rear and front past the barrel.

[gritty star]

We have a .40 S&W pistol in my household with 14 rounds in the magazine for home defense. I feel like that should be able to stop someone

[copper dome]

Fuck that get a musket

https://tenor.com/view/josh-breeding-megas-the-megas-gun-gif-23743361

[gritty star]

We also have an AR-15 and a shotgun. I've never used the shotgun before though. I think it's 12G

[copper dome]

Gonna saw some poor dude in half Jesus

[gritty star]

I hear a branch softly rub against my window and suddenly I've fired 30 rounds through my wall and hit the neighbor's dog

[copper dome]

https://tenor.com/view/it-was-in-self-defense-robert-nesta-marley-bob-marley-i-shot-the-sheriff-in-my-defense-gif-18487149

[winter shale]

Bro the statue is so tuff

I think I'll buy the whole stuff just for that

[cosmic arrow]

Erg ghost pings

[abstract folio]

Just give us the attachments update already

[thick dome]

indeed....just take the mods and build them into the game

[fringe plover]

Hey guys
what do you think about the new ,,collectors edition" of RoN or weight of the badge as they call it

fairly priced or not? is the content interesting to you

[wraith lance]

Cheaper than some AAA collectors at the time
89% of the price is the statue
Average size for such a goodies

I say it's "a bit" too pricey

269€ here in europe, this is a bit too pricey

But only just

[fringe plover]

beside the price
you like what's inside the box

[copper dome]

Considering it’s $269 usd and you don’t get a game copy it’s definitely way overpriced

[fringe plover]

it's 269 euro

[wraith lance]

Yeah, having a steelbook would have been a great plus

For console player, so to speak

[copper dome]

Go on the us site. It’s still $269

I’m assuming the us site would be using usd not euros

[wraith lance]

Jee' it's 213€ if I buy it on NA

[fringe plover]

I love Delta, I really do, I beat the game like 10 times now. but this was about the same price as weight of the badge

[wraith lance]

Well, maybe not the best option : there's shipping fee then

[copper dome]

Idk the only thing of real value is the statue. The coin and paper while being really cool isnt worth the overall price same with the vinyl.

269 is a crazy price for a art book, coin, lspd papers, and a statue

[wraith lance]

Nah, it's not "crazy"

[copper dome]

You’re right it’s batshit insane

[wraith lance]

It's a bit pricey
For exemple, Ghost of Yotei's collector is ~170€
With approximativly the same content, but without the big ass statue (it's a half-mask for GoY)

(And includes in-game cosmo, but I don't count it)

[copper dome]

And a full game mind you

You get the game which by itself is $80 and all the other items for another $100

[wraith lance]

Death Stranding 2's collector has less elements and is ~150€

[copper dome]

Compared to a statue and a couple items for $269

The pricing on this bundle is absurd

[copper dome]

But again comes with the full game that’s what your missing

[wraith lance]

No no, I see the point

[copper dome]

$269 and it doesn’t include a game copy is crazy compared to especially yotei which is a great comparison. $170 for a game and similar/more content and cheaper

[fringe plover]

I love Delta, I really do, I beat the game like 10 times now. but this was about the same price as weight of the badge

[coarse sail]

tbh i only want the patches, the statue and the letter

[peak depot]

Is there a way to throw grenade low?

[coarse sail]

look down

if you mean like underhand i dont think so

[peak depot]

Yeah i meant that just couldn't figure out how to say it:)

[coarse sail]

alright i dont think so lol

[muted root]

Void needs to fire their marketing/social media team. Either that, or they're unable to read the room and oblivious to the community.

[digital finch]

Is gas fixed yet

[floral bramble]

agreed. stop making merch and fix the game. Ig they stopped caring about it a while ago and are focusing on getting money out of merch till it dies or something.

[little hatch]

if you guys hate the game so much then stop playing it

[marsh lark]

the marketting department, and development team are two separate branches

[loud creek]

the game is not finished 😭

[jolly verge]

There is, but it does not change grenade trajectory #🎬ron-clips-and-media message

[stark juniper]

Hey guys I’m new here and new to the game, do you guys have any tips at all

[coarse sail]

how do i use gas? I watched the tutorial that said it filled the room but it's not like filling I guess

[wind gyro]

was it pre or post nerf

[wind gyro]

what kind of tips

[coarse sail]

like right now

if you're referring to the video I have no idea

[stark juniper]

Like tips for properly clearing a room. I get the basics, just trying to get better that’s all

[wind gyro]

yeah video

[coarse sail]

look up SixtyAteWhiskey on youtube

[coarse sail]

ill find it

[wind gyro]

it might be pre gas nerf

[stark juniper]

Thank you!

[coarse sail]

5 months ago

[coarse sail]

of course

[coarse sail]

golden wombat is another good one

[stark juniper]

Ok ok I’ll check them out

[wind gyro]

tbh idk if gas was nerfed in the lss update or an lss patch

[coarse sail]

ok

also i just killed someone with a beanbag shotgun 😭 i didnt know that was possible

[thick dome]

shoot them in the head, yes

[jolly verge]

You don't, it's has been nerfed to the ground

[coarse sail]

thanks

been trying to get S with gas for a while

[dense timber]

I hate it, it’s beyond useless. Just return old gas

[valid raven]

do you think the lock pick gun brakes to lock?

Personally i do well it depends on the method used a lot of them use a captive bolt that snaps the tumblrs off

[gusty marten]

anyone got any tips/recommendations when im doing missions? Js im struggling a tiny bit

[split sun]

Can anyone else not join a lobby with 2+ people?

[eternal crow]

They release a collectors edition, and I can’t even buy it with my Visa card. That’s fucking great.

Why can’t these people do anything right LMAO

They can’t even get money properly

https://tenor.com/view/veeunus-spongebob-spongebob-squarepants-squidward-done-gif-24674884

I’ve never seen a game with such a strong core continuously fuck itself over with updates that break everything

[peak depot]

Don't buy the merch and support this broken ass game

[eternal crow]

Yeah, I feel that

[peak depot]

Even pre 1.0 was way better than the current state

[eternal crow]

Ever since they censored the game, everything’s been downhill lol. I don’t understand why every update breaks the AI in someway shape or form. I get games development is hard but Jesus Christ you would think after like 10 years they would have a handle on this shit.

It’s genuinely fucking laughable,

I’m a big collector, though, I do really like ready or not but fuck the current state of the game makes me angry

That’s SWAT statue is dope and the vinyl is sweet

If only the game was on the same level of quality

[peak depot]

Dlc maps lack optimization, gas bug, new swat ai bugs (they are inside each other and neither of them shoots)

Fucking game just unplayable

[chilly thorn]

Games janky as fuck right now, other then that I'd say the game is good. Devs are STRUGGLING with employment and shit right now though thats why shit is so weird right now.

This could all be solved if they were just more open about whats going on with them.

[peak depot]

On dorms just ONE GUY killed my entire swat team (i ordered them to c2 and flash). I mean what can i do more? What the actual fuck?

[chilly thorn]

Skill issue tbh

[eternal crow]

I guess the guy eats flashbangs for breakfast

[chilly thorn]

sometimes flashbangs dont work

[peak depot]

Yeah but not my skill

[chilly thorn]

this has been a thing since swat 3

[eternal crow]

“Skill issue” is such a non response lol

The games AI is just fucked right now

[chilly thorn]

its better then before because at least its not dogeasy anymore

[eternal crow]

It was in a good spot pre-censorship update

[peak depot]

As far as i understand they need line of sight and smallest things can block it

[chilly thorn]

It was far to easy SAS operators would miss all their shots.

[peak depot]

Like a leg of a chair (not kidding)

[still willow]

Is it just me, or do Ready or Not frames just Thanos themselves on PS5?

[peak depot]

Instead of improving ai they are destroying it

[chilly thorn]

They could also just look away.

[peak depot]

That doesn't work

[chilly thorn]

given the fact that many dorms suspects are ex-military it check out they wouldn't be too startled by a loud sound

[still willow]

Like when I had it, it was fine, even when it came out. Then one day, I reinstalled it, and boom, the game exploded.

[chilly thorn]

Unreal Engine 5 back at it again.

[peak depot]

Honestly optimisation is pretty good on base game maps

[chilly thorn]

This is unironically the best optimized game on UE5 lol

[peak depot]

I experience stutters on dlcs though

[chilly thorn]

Probably the best looking too since this game has an actual art style and art direction, and like color.

[still willow]

Like it boggles my mind lmao bc the game worked when I pre ordered it but the one time I reinstall it suddenly the station is like loaded down with insane frame drops

[peak depot]

Yeah even my 4gb vram can run it at epic+dlss quality at over 60-70 fps

[still willow]

I figured it was a ron classic ngl

[chilly thorn]

its either just the game fucking up or your console fucking up

[still willow]

Ironically I think i might lean towards the game

[chilly thorn]

This game nailed the visual style of Swat 4 with the harsh shadows and lighting

I just wish there was more dark maps

[peak depot]

I wish i could really use night vision

Really need an ir illuminator bcs there are many completely dark spots on dark maps even with nvgs

[chilly thorn]

We have: Stolen Valor, Twisted Nerve, Rust Belt, Sins (maybe), Hide and Seek, and Dorms.

Thats like a majority light maps which is just BOOOORIIINGG

like I loove narcos but like the night maps are more enjoyable to look at

[peak depot]

If there was an option to cut the electricity that would be good

It should also effect suspects' detection range

[chilly thorn]

That was going to happen but Unreal Engine is so fucking shit it couldn't handle it.

Now that we are on UE5 MAYBE IT COULD HAPPEN!? (lets pray)

[peak depot]

There was a modded map with that option actually

[weak storm]

Why does the game seem to run so much better on ps5 than series x

[chilly thorn]

Yeah and it probably ran like ass

[peak depot]

I don't remember at all

[upbeat shore]

In all honesty tho:
I'd love to use NVG more myself, but the majority of maps being daytime or evening is """more realistic""".
This aint the Navy Seals or some special forces secret mission game ^^

[peak depot]

Mods usually slows down my game anyway

[chilly thorn]

The issue is that since this game uses baked lighting that means if they wanted to turn the lights off for some reason they would have to turn off ALL lights because the engine wont let them turn of individual lights I guess.

[peak depot]

In my country if police comes to your home they usually raid it at 4-5am

[chilly thorn]

most cops don't even have nvgs and just use flashlights

NVGs in this game are COOL though

[upbeat shore]

SWAT is a reaction to an action, not "lets go check on these people" ^^

[chilly thorn]

Most SWAT missions are literally just yelling at some dudes front door and then breaking in if they dont and tackling them.

[peak depot]

The guys raiding here aren't just checking either

[peak depot]

Yeah irl it takes hours

[peak depot]

We also need a tackling option

[eternal crow]

The funny thing is that I don’t even think the scalpers wanna buy the statues for this game because most people have completely turned on ready or not

[peak depot]

Bashing is fucking useless

[eternal crow]

This game is dying rapidly

They need to get their shit together

[peak depot]

No its not

They just made millions from console sale

[eternal crow]

The crossplay doesn’t even fucking work for console and PC. Disable it and undo the goddamn censorship.

[chilly thorn]

Just use the uncensored patch

literally like 2 clicks away

[eternal crow]

I tried again after that patch and the AI is just completely fucked

[peak depot]

Im simply gonna delete the game and install an older version after i finish the new maps

I want my cs gas and old swat ai

[chilly thorn]

I miss old swat ai

[peak depot]

Never thought i would say this

[chilly thorn]

People talk about CS gas being bad but forget that its still OP as shit if you use it correctly.

[chilly thorn]

I MEAN 1.0 ADAM UPDATE SWAT AI WAS HELL

[eternal crow]

Before the censorship update, the AI was perfect. After the censorship update they’re fucking brain dead.

[chilly thorn]

Swat ai or Suspect AI

[eternal crow]

The SWAT

[chilly thorn]

Because suspect ai has had a significant improvement.

[peak depot]

It doesnt even fill a small room lmao

[eternal crow]

I agree the suspect AI was too easy, but I think they pushed too far in the opposite direction

[peak depot]

It is completely fucked

And suspects actually run away and get out of cs zone easily so it doesnt effect them much even if you throw it between their legs

[chilly thorn]

The difficulty modes is the right way to go, Hardcore is fun as fuck and forces you to play slowly. The Standard is the same as Dark Waters ai and Casual is like slightly weaker.

[peak depot]

In hard mode only way you're coming out alive is flashing every room as it's in the real life

Only problem is ai peeks the door and gets shot when you order them to stack up

[chilly thorn]

The good thing about CS is that if you throw it into a room with surrendered suspect they wont pull anything or try to run away, thats the best way to use it. It's also good for area denial and making it so they cant shoot you as you breach. It's best to be used as a breaching tool rather then something like the flashbangs, That's how it should be honestly they just need to buff its range.

My strat is always Kick Gas and Flash

[peak depot]

The problem is it cant be used as area denial tool anymore

Pre 1.0 was too op because it was an instant effect

[eternal crow]

It just seems like every time they update the game. They fucking break something.

It’s annoying, three steps forward, 10 steps backwards

[chilly thorn]

If you throw it into a hallway they wont go into the gas cloud unless its like the one suspect in the game with a working gas mask.

[chilly thorn]

Dark waters update was like 10 steps forward and maybe 1 step back with the slightly janky surrender animations.

[peak depot]

After 1.0 it was just right but swat ai wasn't compatible with it

[chilly thorn]

Home Invasion SWAT ai was goated. They could basically fend for themselves.

[peak depot]

They removed instant effect but they didn't add delay when breaching lmao

[chilly thorn]

Funny thing I don't know if this is still present but

if you Shotgun and gas the guy will cook the gas grenade making the effect much sooner. (its a glitch)

[peak depot]

Yes but it wasn't just the case for shotgun

It also happened with open and gas sometimes

[chilly thorn]

yknow what all this talk and we aren't talking about the most goated nonlethal, Stinger grenades are amazing.

They have always been amazing.

Nobody uses them tho :c

[peak depot]

You could kill suspects with it before lmao

[chilly thorn]

same with flashbangs and even the taser.

And they can still die from all It wasn't removed.

[peak depot]

Are you sure because last time i tried they don't

[chilly thorn]

I hope they make the flashbang launcher more lethal, If you direct impact somebody with that (which seems to be the common strat for players now) it would fuck them up.

[tacit gull]

I dont think the taser or the flashbangs deal damage

gas and stingers do

[peak depot]

Really?

[chilly thorn]

I've had the taser kill people in the newest build of the game, same with flashbangs.

I believe I have a video somewhere of the taser killing people

[tacit gull]

fake death

[chilly thorn]

No they died died blood pool and all.

[tacit gull]

Yes, gas deals damage overtime and stingers deal flat damage

[peak depot]

Is it too little or worth considering?

[tacit gull]

It's never going to come into play AT ALL unless youn intentionally leave a suspect with about minimal health

[chilly thorn]

If void were goated they would add a random chance for a flashbang or taser to light the suspect on fire.

[peak depot]

Does the range effects damage

[chilly thorn]

Its led to many unintentional swat involved civilian casualities in the past.

[tacit gull]

I dont think so, if they're caught in the blast i think it just deal the damage

[chilly thorn]

I hope we get a variety of different reactions to non lethals in the future

Like imagine throwing a flash into a room just for the suspect to start blind firing everywhere and they end up doming a civvie.

[peak depot]

That would set my laptop on fire too probably

[chilly thorn]

That would be a cool little immersive sim ass moment :3

[tacit gull]

ron doesn't do non-standardised gameplay

[chilly thorn]

Thats fucking stupid.

This is a game that entirely relies on randomization for its fun factor.

[eternal crow]

This game is butt

[tacit gull]

I just played S4 a few hours ago and it pissed me the fuck off how sterile RON is in comparison

[chilly thorn]

RoN does do non-standardised gameplay look at the suspects randomly just deciding to surrender for no reason for example.

Unpredictability is the key to fun

[tacit gull]

tell that to the dev that removed all damage resistances, all different morale values, made everyone surrender in one less lethal hit no matter what

[tacit gull]

Suspects only decide to surrender if their stress value is basically at 0 and they hesitate

If a gun is shot like 3 times in the run they will never hesitate again

[light niche]

man i love playing greased palms

greased palms is the best level ever

[chilly thorn]

I've had suspects surrender before I've even interacted with them so I dunno

[tacit gull]

All of the randomness got taken out of the game and all of the chaos got snipped off for shitty gunfights every corner

[eternal crow]

Nah seriously though why isn’t visa a fucking payment option

[peak depot]

Yeah, i realised if i capture the suspects alive at the beginning they tend to surrender more

[eternal crow]

There’s PayPal, Apple Pay, Amazon pay, google pay and fucking Venmo

?!?!?!?!

I really want that statue, why won’t you let me give you money?

Do you guys just hate money or something?

[peak depot]

Are you playing it at casual?

[eternal crow]

[peak depot]

Bcs they just snipe you if they see a pixel of your character between cargo boxes from 1 mile away in hard mode and it's not fun at all

[chilly thorn]

I feel as if this can't be truly intentional though and they just fucked up

I don't that feels as if that breaks so many systems in the game.

[tacit gull]

It's been a pattern with everything since 1.0

[chilly thorn]

yeah but like theres no reason for it

Theres no reason they would want to make their game worse.

[eternal crow]

Is pinging the devs a no-no?

[tacit gull]

yes

[peak depot]

Devs are just stupid and greedy

[eternal crow]

I wanna ask them if they can add visa as a payment option LMAO

[chilly thorn]

Or maybe 1.0 ai got so much backlash when it came out they were scared into constantly making the game easier.

[tacit gull]

Maybe in the ex designer's eyes actual randomness is worse

[livid yew]

i dont miss the john wick ai days

[peak depot]

They fucked pc player over for console release

[eternal crow]

Why be in a discord server if you don’t want anyone asking any questions lol

[chilly thorn]

you said ex designer so Im assuming theres a new one, You think they are gonna be good on that? here's hoping.

[tacit gull]

The position opened up on their site, i don't think there's a new one yet

[eternal crow]

Saying they “fucked us over” is a bit much. I agree the censorship is fucking stupid but I wouldn’t say it ruined the game, the fact that the censorship update came with them completely breaking the fucking game though? Yeah that hurts way more.

Dumbasses added insult to injury

🇱

[chilly thorn]

Was the "PC Graphical Downgrade" just like a scapegoat because I've legit never noticed any differences after the first patch...

[eternal crow]

What I find, especially irritating is that the cross play basically doesn’t fucking work, and I want to play with my console friends

[chilly thorn]

Too be fair I play on max

[eternal crow]

I was gonna wait till the physical release, but the physical release got delayed by a fucking month without them, saying anything about it because I didn’t want to own it on console regardless of whether or not the cross play was broken

So I had to wait even longer because I wasn’t gonna buy it digitally and physically again

[tacit gull]

I know he definetly pushed for stuff like the customisation and giving the player everything without any loadout building and the such

Used the PR term "gun fantasy"

[chilly thorn]

Do you think they are going to balance the Laser + Flashlight Attachment

like maybe making the flashlight shittier?

[tacit gull]

No, just like they haven't balanced permanent NVGs

[livid yew]

but yeah came here to say that i think sleeper agent achievement is bugged because i tried to do it vanilla did everything right literally timed things perfectly and didnt get it then i tried it with wemod (the game doesnt register as a mod btw) literally did all the steps and it doesnt work

[peak depot]

I don't give much of a shit about censorship honestly, that's not okay but not a must for me.

[eternal crow]

Is there any “ask the Dev’s chat’s”?

[peak depot]

Is there a date for next update?

At least a hot fix

[chilly thorn]

I feel that might be because not a soul used NVGs before because it wasn't worth it in most maps

[tacit gull]

Think about it like this, before 1.0 the pepperspray was great not only for suspects but it was basically mandatory to have atleast one for civilians who actually resisted arrest

Civilians now will resist arrest for about 3 seconds and instantly give up

They're basically static props

[peak depot]

No they don't

[tacit gull]

They do, after one shout they'll stay still for a while then instantly surrender

It's so fucking awkward

[peak depot]

Some of them don't give up unless i go to them and bash

[chilly thorn]

You could still bash in the adam update, Pepperspray was still rather useless.

[weak storm]

How do you get face masks

[peak depot]

U mean balaclava or gas mask?

[tacit gull]

Bashing wasn't enough sometimes

[eternal crow]

There’s only the ballistic mask

Or gas mask

[weak storm]

The balaclava

[eternal crow]

I always just have the ballistic mask on because it’s free bullet protection

Doesn’t really hurt to have it

[chilly thorn]

It always worked for me

[tacit gull]

And pepperspray could get you suspect arrests, now its useless because civilians always give up and suspects dont give a shit about it

They will still keep shooting you while also playing probably the most embarrassing animation in the game

[chilly thorn]

Too be fair

a lot of the animations for non lethals in this game are embarresing

taser animations look like absolute shit

[tacit gull]

Atleast they're mocapped

[chilly thorn]

The strangest thing to me is that beanbag animations look so good but like specifically the one for them being surrendered? Like on their knees?

Like the injured animations for surrendered suspects are really well done looking and they actually react to like where they were hit lol

[tacit gull]

I still don't get how we still dont have more than 1 surrender animation

or well 3

[chilly thorn]

There should be like 30 tbh

They should add new ones in every update just to throw long time players off

[tacit gull]

SWAT 4 had an animation for every single stun going to surrender

[chilly thorn]

Swat 4 animations were synced really well too and they had actual sprint build up

[tacit gull]

I dont think that's true, i just think the suspects were way slower

[chilly thorn]

and we've already ranted about the door animations I think lol

[tacit gull]

since you know, you cant fucking shoot them at will

[chilly thorn]

I love RoN but I've said this before they need to look more at what swat 4 did right and why people loved it.

RoN still feels like its not hitting its full potential even though we are far past 1.0

[tacit gull]

As i said i played it today and i had so many chaotic moments with suspects going in and out of surrenders over and over and hesitating before shooting

Aswell as suspects actually giving up without me needing to apply some kind of force

[chilly thorn]

Swat 4 it felt like I was actually startling the suspects more

[copper dome]

Tbf presence is sometimes enough

[chilly thorn]

like I would sneak up behind them and they would immediently drop the gun a lot in the maps with less then pro suspects.

[tacit gull]

Aswell as all the cool interactions

Like methed up suspects taking more shots and shrugging off stuns easier

and being more erratic

Suspects with packages on them running to flush them down the toilet

[chilly thorn]

I've been begging for this forever but different suspects with different archetypes should have different animation sets like a generic street thug shouldn't hold a pistol the same way as former SAS.

[tacit gull]

Aswell as all the SEF stuff like drugged or old suspects getting incapped by tasers

And dude the environmental destruction

every room has like 50 things flying up in the air from a flashbang

[chilly thorn]

RoN has a decent amount of enviromental destruction tbh a lot of it broke in console.

[tacit gull]

It's just not on the same level

[chilly thorn]

I don't know why TVs break from flashbangs in RoN tho

[tacit gull]

And i dont think it broke, rather i think it was done for performance reasons

Same reason why bullet casings dissapear after like 3 seconds

[chilly thorn]

I think its a bug because they said they improved enviormental destruction?

[chilly thorn]

They don't on PC at least not for me.

[tacit gull]

They definetly do for me

Also ron definetly had better destruction in the EA, hold on

[copper dome]

You guys think they’ll ever fix the mk16 buffer tube or whatever it’s called

Seeing as how it doesn’t need it and looks silly

[tacit gull]

https://www.vxreddit.com/r/ReadyOrNotGame/comments/vheee6/b_o_n_k/

that's better

[chilly thorn]

I didn't say it wasn't better back in EA I said I believe its a bug because they said they improved it and I know voids rather dumb sometimes but I doubt they would just full on lie about that

[copper dome]

Game looks so much better Omg

[tacit gull]

The lighting definetly looked smoother but it was SO DARK

Like to the point even daytime levels were unplayable without flashlights

[chilly thorn]

I think artistically the game looks better now tbh

maps like the new port compared to the old port just being... grey.

[tacit gull]

I don't, i think carriers looks like a fucking disaster

And the new port is just.... yellow

[chilly thorn]

Carriers is just breaking bad filter

I describe the new port as the Piss Filter done right

Is it realistic? No. Is it cool and gross looking hell yeah.

[tacit gull]

Actually it is realistic due to the types of lamps that are being used in the port

That doesn't really mean it looks better

[chilly thorn]

The old port was literally generic unreal engine grey

unless you mean REALLY old port when it was dark blue that one was sick.

The new game just has so much more color and when it wants to do dark maps (Dorms and Stolen Valor being good examples) it does them really well.

[tacit gull]

The new lighting is way too bright, way too gray and way too overblown most of the time

I thought the home invasion LSPD had incomplete lighting

[chilly thorn]

Whats your brightness at?

[tacit gull]

No that's just what it looks like

[chilly thorn]

No literally check your brightness

[tacit gull]

It's definetly not the brightness

[chilly thorn]

I can show you screenshots from my game if you'd like to see.

[tacit gull]

It's just how fugly the game looks after the ue5 crossover

[gentle python]

Just look dude, if you had it cranked from EA then it'll look overblown now

[tacit gull]

I didn't crank anything

And i don't have my settings from EA since VOID couldn't do proper steam cloud integration

[gentle python]

"cranked" as in an expression for a large increase

[chilly thorn]

I put them in the screenshots I dont see the gray dude

[gentle python]

Still, especially if you're using HDR, it's probably best to check your brightness real quick and recalibrate

[chilly thorn]

The brightness got set too high automatically in the new update lol

It like doubled itself it makes a massive difference

[tacit gull]

https://youtu.be/PqCtIXv8G38

This is all i really need to show

[chilly thorn]

If you lower the brightness it looks exactly like the Ue4 version

Im not lying about this it got fucked

[gentle python]

If you got a problem then why not try to fix it haha, you can change the brightness in a few seconds

[chilly thorn]

I will admit theres a slight "Gloss" filter put over neon tomb in console builds of the game for some reason.

but nothing involving lighting

[tacit gull]

This isn't a "me" problem, it's a problem with the game and it shows up in most projects that make the switch from UE4 to 5, no amount of tinkering with sliders will undo that ugly ass bright fog in the background

[chilly thorn]

We legit just told you how to fix it though.

[tacit gull]

Yeah well you didn't

[chilly thorn]

Brightness

[tacit gull]

Not the issue

[chilly thorn]

Have you tried it? Worked for me.

[tacit gull]

Still not the issue

[chilly thorn]

So you've tried it correct?

[tacit gull]

I'm not going to because that doesn't unwash out the visuals

[chilly thorn]

You can't prove that until you try it

I can send a comparision screenshot of before and after changing brightness if you want more proof

I cant put it in here though due to the slowmode shit

[copper dome]

It’s not slowmode causing no pictures

You don’t have the role to send em

[chilly thorn]

Im talking about the screenshots page

[gentle python]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/690206677739241474/1089115902458462268/why_think.gif

Rip, forgot no embeds :(

[tacit gull]

epic embed failure

[chilly thorn]

I like to believe gratr is so conditioned to thinking UE5 has to be washed out and grey that he thinks its normal, because UE5 sucks lol

[quasi coral]

I think Neon Tomb should be pitch black cause the LSPD has cut the power

[chilly thorn]

yeah but then it wouldn't be as cool tho

Loud blaring music with lights and complete sensory overload

[covert aurora]

At least you can turn the music off at the dj booth

[chilly thorn]

The secret combat ost for Neon Tomb is actually fucking good as hell

its just a better version of relapse combat theme

[quasi coral]

Shit you're right

I wish for a blackout map in the future, just purely no lights

Well, some lighting, but none, ykwIm?

[chilly thorn]

Im hoping for a return of the spider at some point in the future, The vibe of the auction house was creepy af and insanely uncomfortable, Imagine a brothel map for them maybe a return of the legendary "Canal" Staircase.

[cedar mulch]

Because they all share the same theme tune, only the hospital version is slowed down.

[chilly thorn]

Imagine a DLC that takes place during a city wide blackout

[quasi coral]

That's what I'm Saiyan

[chilly thorn]

Ready Or Not Black Out (super creative name I know)

[quasi coral]

Like, a thunderstorm shut down parts of L.S and it's a near city wide blackout

[chilly thorn]

I can imagine the maps A\ High Rise Office Building, A Bank Robbery, and a Possible MLO map.

[covert aurora]

As much as i would love power outage i dont think it would happen due to having baked/precalculated lighting

[quasi coral]

Aw maen

[covert aurora]

It is a feature i would love!

[quasi coral]

A high rise would be so sick..

[chilly thorn]

We mean maps that take place during a black out.

[quasi coral]

Same here!!

[covert aurora]

Oh! For sure

[chilly thorn]

When home invasion was announced with the plot of a hurricane

I know this is absurd in retrospect but I imagined a map like

remember that one bo2 mission that was flooded lol

[covert aurora]

Didnt play bo2 wasnt a fan of cod post mw2 original

But this soubds interesting so go on

[chilly thorn]

Just imagine something like narcos but your in knee high water and its raining heavily.

again its absurd in retrospect as they would have to do some water physics crap

[weak storm]

Are both dlcs worth it season pass is only 20

[chilly thorn]

They include 6 maps, all are pretty good.

[thick dome]

the GA51 alone is worth it

[weak storm]

Is one better than the other?

[thick dome]

dark waters if you can only get 1

[chilly thorn]

They are both rather equel, Home Invasion for Less crazy missions and Dark waters for the more actiony over the top missions.

They completement each other more then being competetors.

Me personally I think home invasion maps are underrated

Dorms is probably one of my fav maps and Narcos is just peak.

[weak storm]

Does home invasion got crackheads I like them

[thick dome]

dark waters gets you the 7.26x51 guns

[covert aurora]

Thats kinda how i imagened dorms at first

[chilly thorn]

Dorms was great tbh

visually its so creepy and I LOVE urbex so

[covert aurora]

I loved dorms

Favorite map for HI

[chilly thorn]

I'd still say narcos is my favorite just cause like

Its narcos cmon everyone loves that map for a reason

[thick dome]

yeah..narcos is a good map

its well designed..nothing crazy. just good clearing

[spiral pawn]

So did they only do PC update or are they going to do Console soon?

[chilly thorn]

Narcos is what greased palms tried to be for an outdoor map.

[weak storm]

So since both dlcs have guns do they both got armor

[cedar mulch]

Narcos' overall style is more akin to DLC2, while the other two maps are more suited to standard burglaries.

[covert aurora]

Narcos is a fun map

[chilly thorn]

you get some cosmetics. The guns come free.

[covert aurora]

I just hate the sun in that level

[chilly thorn]

Post 1.0 maps have a noticable up in quality and focus on what they are trying to go for.

They are much more polished

[coarse sail]

i peek door, i see no trap, i open door, door no boom, i walk through door, KABOOM

[covert aurora]

It seems to be the tread for alot of games, your set of maps good but not the great because "hey first trying to do stuff." Post 1.0 gets better with newer content cause you have an idea of what your player base would want to see

[chilly thorn]

Ok this is incredibly rare but sometimes traps can be placed on the top of the door, I'm not kidding.

[covert aurora]

At least it isnt one point in early access, invisible traps.

[coarse sail]

AINT NO WAY I was doing so good on that mission too 😭

[chilly thorn]

Praying for shotgun traps

[covert aurora]

That would be fun

Also that screenshot oh god how!?

[stable kernel]

Mod

[covert aurora]

x.x

[coarse sail]

cries in console

[covert aurora]

https://tenor.com/view/pikachu-sadness-pet-head-caterpie-sad-gif-16792400

[chilly thorn]

I swear on my soul I did not have a mod I put this on my winchesters soul and I love that thing

[stable kernel]

No, you had a mod that changed the trap data table and AI config

[chilly thorn]

Will this be a mechanic added in DLC15?

[covert aurora]

A wild Martin!

🙂

[chilly thorn]

What if we get bear traps on some maps lol

[cedar mulch]

OMG