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tough veldt
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you should at least get another player because the bomb rooms are really nasty.

target the guys with the RPD, theres like 2 on the relapse map

deep sentinel
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Unless you're actually checking around corners and shit with the mirror cam its better to have them extra 4 stingers

real frigate
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@acoustic elbow ignore

stone bay
real frigate
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@solar hemlock ignore

deep sentinel
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Well idek bro

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If you aren't gonna take any advice idk how to help

real frigate
stone bay
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I highly doubt the shield and mirror are the reason we're losing here

deep sentinel
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At least try things

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Well yeah its most likely the fact the ai on Hard are completely fucked but you can still mitigate it by trying new stuff

stone bay
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I'm not taking your advice because they don't make any sense. Getting rid of strong items like the mirror gun and shield is crazy.

tough veldt
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i know for me at least,
when i got it done on hard mode for relapse, on quickplay, i gave everyone a shield

deep sentinel
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Getting rid of strong items on a map where there's stronger items

deep sentinel
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The ai are insane with shields

tough veldt
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i did it with the 5 ai team mates

deep sentinel
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Yeah

tough veldt
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i didnt get s rank on hard mode because we were going lethal

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i just wanted it done for the achievement

deep sentinel
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I had absolutely no problems when I did it and just brought a metric fuckton of flashes, ammo and a M320 stinger

tough veldt
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I ran it again on hard mode on multiplayer and they john rambo the entire building and even arrested the HVT

stone bay
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I don't see why I can't bring the flash launcher and shield together

deep sentinel
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There's better maps to use a shield and mirror gun on and Relapse isn't one of them

deep sentinel
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Not a long tactical

stone bay
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Mirror gun has helped us a lot of the times to prevent us dying and plan a door breach, I don't get where this idea of it being useless comes from, especially when there are 3 of us

deep sentinel
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I never said the mirror gun was useless?

stone bay
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You're saying we would be better off running something else on relaspe

deep sentinel
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Yes that's not me saying its useless im saying there are better options

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I feel like the person who has actually done the mission on hard might know how to do it better than somebody who's struggling on it

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At least give it a go

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The whole point of all the shit in our kits is for us to use it all to our advantage

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Having more launchers is most definitely better than just tanking shots when the AI have practically infinite ammo coming from fully automatic RPKs

tough veldt
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ayo fuck them machine guns

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they're a pain in my ass

deep sentinel
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The RPKs are so ass bro

stone bay
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It's not about just tanking shots it's about taking their agro.

deep sentinel
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Hate them mfs

deep sentinel
stone bay
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If theyre distracted shooting me, my teammates can do something to stop them

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In every playthrough weve done they've been focused on me

deep sentinel
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Idk how

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At least give other options a go instead of saying you cant complete it and not taking any advice when people try and help

stone bay
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Idk man, I really don't think it's the loadout that's hurting us here

deep sentinel
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As I said before the ai are fucked but different loadouts still make it easier despite how buggy they are

stone bay
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For the record, I was asking whether or not flash or stinger would work, we didn't get on the topic of loadout until I mentioned what gun I had

deep sentinel
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Mb for trying to make it easier for you

rocky lotus
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So this game is dead right? The devs left it to rot?

mortal steeple
rocky lotus
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Pretty sure devs ran off with their money lol

mortal steeple
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Dont know man

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Cant send a pic here but the description on their game says theres a third dlc for 2026

tough veldt
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Idk why people keep asking this lol

The season pass is $20, there has to be at least one more dlc to make the season pass a deal as opposed to buying the dlc piece meal

cosmic arrow
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Hopefully modders take reign on the game and make more maps and revolutionize gameplay.

rocky lotus
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Are they gonna fix the numerous current in-game bugs or add any more base games and maps? Or is there just the promise of a 3rd dlc in 2026 with no more details about it

cosmic arrow
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Hopefully modders encompass it all

thick dome
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it'd be super cool if hte devs would build in mod management into the game itself and fix it so updates dont break mods...at least not maps

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with AI customizer built in as well. basically how groudn branch does it

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if youve never played ground branch... you can select from 5 AI presets OR customize all the AIs parameters in the game..as well as select the # of enemies on a map. its super good idea for these PVE games

chilly thorn
rocky lotus
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The last patch was February šŸ’€

chilly thorn
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Yeah, Pretty sure the reason development has slowed down is due to lots of developers getting jumbled around and void hiring new people

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I think they just need more time to like get back on their feet or whatever

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  • they've had like 4 dumbass controversies they gotta deal with lol
rocky lotus
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They should communicate more

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I understand having internal issues that need to be fixed but you also need to be more clear about things

chilly thorn
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That is one thing yeah The fans wouldn't think they "Abandoned Us" if they explained this better

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Like its completely understandable just like tell us lol

rocky lotus
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I mean they have a discord and haven't seemed to really post anything in months, they post often on their Instagram but it's all just promotional stuff lmao

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It's like they care about getting new players but not retaining them

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They just want people to spend the 40 bucks or however much it is and then they don't care from there

chilly thorn
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I'm pretty sure thats because the Marketeting team and Development Team are disconnected to each other

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Its pretty easy to tell looking at how the vibe of the trailers is much different then the vibe of the game

rocky lotus
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I would argue the dev teams job is harder but that just means they need to be more open to communicating stuff instead of saying nothing

chilly thorn
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I believe the console stuff is marketted by a different team as the new trailers.... suck.

rocky lotus
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Because then it seems like they're not doing anything at all

chilly thorn
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They are definently working they just don't tell us what they are working on

rocky lotus
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I have doubts

austere rain
covert aurora
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Its also they only talk about stuff when they havs something talk about. Why post something if there isnt something that needs to be talked about?

rocky lotus
celest epoch
rocky lotus
tough veldt
rocky lotus
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That's something

tough veldt
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Patch 1.3.5 was on September 11th. So idk where you pulled the "they were silent for months" from

covert aurora
covert aurora
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Interesting...

stable kernel
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What is this auguest you speak of

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Is this the new trend that the cool kids are doing?

covert aurora
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(That was really cringe. I will see myself out.)

stable kernel
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I think that's for the best

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How old are you anyway, old man?

covert aurora
stable kernel
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Decrepit

covert aurora
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I feel ancient

vestal mauve
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update when

covert aurora
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soonā„¢

quasi coral
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It's another month until we're in the update time zone

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I must say, it's got me super excited though, hopefully it's January

covert aurora
odd geyser
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Are there any vids I Can Watch to Ronā€˜s ā€žhow people react when you inject solid lead into themā€œ System

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The different things that Happen when You Hit them in different Places including armor

mystic echo
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is JHP overhated

vocal brook
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Any tips for sins of the father? Struggling with how many angles you can be shot from

latent crescent
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otherwise u’ll end up wallbanging a civvie sooner or later

mystic echo
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use the ability to be able to check corners and under doors to your advantage, and bring alot of flashbangs

mystic echo
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it does a shit ton of damage, you wont wallbang a civvie and it still pens armor decently well

latent crescent
mystic echo
latent crescent
mystic echo
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jhp diss is so buns

latent crescent
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they can go wallbang civvies i’ll stick with jhp

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jhp on pistol rounds are useless tho

mystic echo
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normally i js use jhp on it tho

latent crescent
latent crescent
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and the 357 one shots

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that kinda makes the wild west achievement much easier

mystic echo
mystic echo
rugged isle
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greased palm in the office area, civ as hostage pretty much in my face as i was turning ...not a hostage situation anymore-

torpid onyx
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ap is severely overvalued

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it's essentially only good for 5.56 and maybe 5.7 I don't remember if 5.7 JHP works on l3 plates

lost inlet
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no it doesn't.

thick dome
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I like the ga51 with AP..cause im Swiss cheesein!

unborn kestrel
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feels great to come back to port hokan once in a while

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probably the best mission in a tactical shooter ever

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well one of the best i guess

thick dome
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for this game..not a big fan of that map. tjats more a counter terror assault.

I did like the oil rig map though. really cool level design and detail

heady wadi
heady wadi
vale needle
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is the morale system still bugged?

jolly verge
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Wdym

vale needle
# jolly verge Wdym

i havent been around long but sometimes it seems like flashbangs and the breaching shotgun still raise suspect morale, was that ever fixed?

jolly verge
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Never was a thing

tacit gull
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They do raise suspect stress which is something else

unborn kestrel
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must be so fun clearing a very open map with non-lethal weapons tho

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playing ron with a full less lethal loadout is actual torture

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having so much guns to play with

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and you're forced to use pepperballs at long distances

jolly verge
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M32A1 is a thing

heady wadi
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Somehow is slower at releasing content than rockstar games

unborn kestrel
solemn patio
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The b92x is so sexy amiright

tough veldt
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Loud explosions and gunfire raise stress

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Less lethal and non lethal lower morale

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You're probably using lethal equipment and loud breaches, which will raise stress and cause suspects to immediately fire on you giys

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Your breach shotguns raise stress

copper cypress
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After the M320A1 was released, are people still using pepper balls and beanbag?

jolly verge
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Yes

rugged isle
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Is there a quiet way to smash windows beside shooting them or throwing flashes? I tried to melee but i’m afraid those 2 are the only things usable

lost inlet
solemn patio
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Cause the five seven is ugly

jolly verge
quasi coral
solemn patio
thick dome
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you can smash some w8ndows with melee. but its inconsistent

quasi coral
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Well, for what they're doing they are quite small, like 98 developers or something

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Like some solo developers making similar games take up to an YEAR for an update

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So I'd say like 1 month for an update for VOID is like overclocking time

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I admit they are slow sometimes, compared to what they offer

heady wadi
# quasi coral They're like super small

That’s no excuse when the content they release is well, super small, they can’t even release a fucking attachment system in 6 months, it’s not that hard. Even just bug fixes takes months, that’s bad

quasi coral
heady wadi
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They patch the game that adds more bugs, with the floating casings

quasi coral
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Same with some promised features like you said, attachments

heady wadi
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Like great job there game testers

quasi coral
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COME ON GNG šŸ˜­šŸ˜­šŸ™ TS SHOULD BE DAY 1

quasi coral
heady wadi
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Cause no game tester would let the game go out like that. Missing textures, floating casings, weapon sound bugs (super nova still not fixed)

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Since launch the supernova has double sound, which they still haven’t fixed, only reason I don’t use the shotgun cause of the audio bug

quasi coral
heady wadi
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The floating casings was within the first 5 minutes of fighting ngl unless they just don’t actually play their own game

quasi coral
quasi coral
rugged isle
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Same never had them..or i didn't saw them if it happened. The only bug i'm having in this period is ai standing still and need to give the command two or three times or moving them then command again..as if they couldn't reach the door or place for whatever reason since it's literally clear space.
But considering civs and suspects usually can't even move past a door when you move them to your position not that surprising-

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Bugs aside, what's your go to optic for rifle/pistol?

quasi coral
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Falling in and re-stacking doesn't work, which makes it evenw orse

quasi coral
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The Eotech looks cool and works, the Elcan sight looks cool and works in some cases

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The Elcan is 10x more cool if I actually use it as intended(Very rarely)

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Not cool it cannot go between 1x and 4x, might as well switch it out with an Acog instead

reef sequoia
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Who else things the grandmas n the farm map out in the garden have aimbot?

rugged isle
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I used to have the eotech for the look but switched to the 510c (with logo mod) since it looked to have less frame when ads. Or it's just me and they could take the same space.

Recently i installed a mod with a working holo+ magnifier so i'm sticking with that..need to get used but it works.

quasi coral
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So I think it makes sense, sometimes

quasi coral
reef sequoia
rugged isle
solemn patio
quasi coral
reef sequoia
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Honestly, in some of these missions we need drones. Not military drones but general recon drones

solemn patio
quasi coral
solemn patio
quasi coral
reef sequoia
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Not even gonna lie i havent played hide and seek yet

quasi coral
quasi coral
reef sequoia
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We’ll see Im broke and Im currently running off of game trials 😭

solemn patio
quasi coral
rugged isle
quasi coral
reef sequoia
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But I Love RoN

reef sequoia
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Yep

quasi coral
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It's only 15 here, my apologies gng

rugged isle
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And then ye on the topic of raisers, canted..like you have the default optic and a canted/raised version..literally adjusting where you aim but still the optic would be arleady an asset they have

stoic thistle
reef sequoia
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15$?!

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Mannn

heady wadi
quasi coral
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Yea our economy is shit but I'm lucky enough to be 5% of what Voll has

reef sequoia
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With it being 15$ you don’t even need sales unless your tryna get the every DLC

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But yeah for me it’s 40$

quasi coral
heady wadi
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Would be cool if they can give us the p250 and the makarov, the models are literally already in the game and the firing sound etc like bruh

heady wadi
reef sequoia
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For base game no DLC’s

quasi coral
reef sequoia
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Let me show you a pic rq

quasi coral
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I will scour EVERYTHING for ya'll dw

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(rel)

quasi coral
reef sequoia
heady wadi
reef sequoia
heady wadi
reef sequoia
solemn patio
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Im starting to think the devs ran off with the money from console release

heady wadi
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If anything give us a Glock version or the m9 version

heady wadi
reef sequoia
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Lowk a burst pistol would be fire

heady wadi
solemn patio
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Mw3 typa shit

heady wadi
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Where’s my five seven muzzle break void cmon

reef sequoia
solemn patio
quasi coral
reef sequoia
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Five Seven in RoN is goated just my opinion tho

heady wadi
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Usp 45 muzzle break

solemn patio
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Lowkey love the 509 irons

rugged isle
# reef sequoia Without the 20% deduction it’s like 60$

For me it’s 50euros full price, the base game. Considering to fix some stuffs or even QoL you pretty much either mod or deal with it..ye kinda high unless they go for a big fix..still see the point of the complaints on the speed of development

heady wadi
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Like bro why are they prioritising suppressors over muzzle brakes

solemn patio
quasi coral
heady wadi
solemn patio
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I just got the double freedom in super store

heady wadi
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New AR is pretty ass honestly

solemn patio
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THE MAXIGUN IS MEDIUM AP WHAT

heady wadi
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It’s fun for lower difficulties most likely

heady wadi
quasi coral
reef sequoia
lost inlet
quasi coral
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Deluxe edition is insane

heady wadi
reef sequoia
solemn patio
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GONNA TEST THE DOUBLE FREEDOM RN

lost inlet
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bruh, helldivers in ron discussion.

solemn patio
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SHOULD I MOVE TO GEN DISCUSSION

quasi coral
lost inlet
heady wadi
solemn patio
heady wadi
lost inlet
quasi coral
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The game is just so good, ignoring all the wait and uhh very questionable decisions

quasi coral
reef sequoia
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Dude first mission I played in RoN was the starting mission (obviously) and a NPC Said ā€œGet off me N Word!ā€ That’s what made me be like Thats actually.. realistic.

quasi coral
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Just doesn't feel like a full game YET(That's not to say it's HELLA fun)

reef sequoia
quasi coral
reef sequoia
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Yeah but only had kt happen once

heady wadi
rugged isle
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It’s somehow the best swat experience despite the faults it ofc has..both graphic wise and overall immersion. And you have the whole mod aspect that still keep it alive as well.

quasi coral
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I guess I haven't been playin TYCA! enough

reef sequoia
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And it was with NPC Teammates after we got a hostage situation under control, I found the best way for those situations are just open and bang.

solemn patio
heady wadi
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Would also be cool to have a .22 pistol, not effective anywhere but headshots, rewards accuracy with low recoil

quasi coral
heady wadi
quasi coral
reef sequoia
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I use the Red Dot Scopes I’m not the biggest EOTech Fan but some of these Red Dots are WAY to compact

heady wadi
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Why’s there not a square sight for pistols man, or just a more natural feeling sight

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The dots are the size of a pin head I can barely tell where I’m aiming half the time

solemn patio
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Double freedom will KICK ASS I believe it

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Guess my talon is now crowd control

heady wadi
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Something similar to the g.i reflex from modern warfare 2019 is what I’d want or an rds sight

heady wadi
quasi coral
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Or, are you referring to like that weird square iron sight

heady wadi
quasi coral
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CAG wutwut

quasi coral
heady wadi
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Just can’t wait for the g36 and mk18 carry handles so I can use normal scopes without vision issues

reef sequoia
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Dude we need to be able to add a laser and flashlight

reef sequoia
quasi coral
reef sequoia
heady wadi
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G36c with the carry handle and a 510c ugh might be my main after that

quasi coral
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Which is of Q1 2026, and I'm clenching my cheeks like, deadass I have exams right now and I can't focus on ts

rugged isle
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Iusually run pistol with irons and laser pointer (again modded laser because the vanilla is like searching for a fly..like come on at least a bit brighter?)

heady wadi
reef sequoia
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Ahh makes sense Lol

heady wadi
quasi coral
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I know it's more complicated and harder than that but I don't know

heady wadi
quasi coral
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It makes me feel weird when devs release a festive update, even if it's just a silly little thing that makes me feel like there should've been an update

quasi coral
heady wadi
quasi coral
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Don't worry, I have seen it

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Just, not in-game

heady wadi
reef sequoia
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They might already plan on it or have it but what if they added weapon wraps? Im not talking about diamonds with lava Im talking about camo or yk

heady wadi
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It’s in screenshots and media

quasi coral
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Ready or treat

rugged isle
quasi coral
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It's not very practical in any force at all, in any case they use those, they cover the firearm with a special cloth or sum

quasi coral
reef sequoia
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I wish we had the option between handcuffs and zip ties not gonna lie

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Ik it wouldn’t be practical

quasi coral
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I think it's more of a practical issue, zip ties are cheaper and also a lot more compact so you can have TONS

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Damn how did you know??!?!(It's also to do with lore, the department is kinda defunded[My departments kinda underfunded]

heady wadi
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Swat use zip ties irl

reef sequoia
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Cauys you have lowk 2-4 handcuffs and have 200 zip ties LOL

heady wadi
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Mainly a weight issue

quasi coral
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I just want the devs to come by every once in a while and info drop us a bit

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"We're gonna drop in January, maybe" that'd be great on it's own

heady wadi
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Like ā€œhey guys, we’re still working on that update we promised, only another 4 months till we update you guys again!

covert aurora
rugged isle
heady wadi
quasi coral
heady wadi
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We get one steam page on Halloween andddd nothing since

covert aurora
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that's how it's been since EA days

heady wadi
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Void isn’t EA

covert aurora
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early access

quasi coral
heady wadi
rugged isle
# quasi coral They're a special team after all

Ye i think underfunded is kinda relative…imagine if the commander mode was actually you getting more funds over the mission and therefore you are locked to a set of stuffs as a sort of progression.

covert aurora
heady wadi
rugged isle
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*more creative

heady wadi
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Like how we unlock watches for getting ranks on different missions

quasi coral
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I personally prefer everything necessary or equipment to be unlocked at the start

heady wadi
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Definitely lets you explore your own play styles

quasi coral
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The "Play through the game and unlock more stuff" works a lot finer for me

heady wadi
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I love the p90 but its recoil is so ass

quasi coral
rugged isle
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Could still be the quick play. Or even like iron man a toggle you can have

quasi coral
quasi coral
heady wadi
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Makes zero sense

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It’s 5.7 it should be low recoil

quasi coral
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Alright, time to go to bed, someone spam ping me if they release any announcements please šŸ˜­šŸ™

torpid onyx
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and because it's horizontal and it goes both left and right controlling that part of it is not an option

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then comparably the mp7 is a laser and stays centered and only gets vertical recoil making it like 1000x more viable

rugged isle
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Never tried sub tbh..are they worth a try? I always use Hk rifles or a shotgun if i want to play as the breacher..or plan to be more..close and personal

heady wadi
rugged isle
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Will give a try for the mp7 in quick play..see also how the ai uses it. I guess with AP right?

jolly verge
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Depends on mission

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4.6x30 and 5.7x28 JHP can pen level 2 armor

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AP for level 3

scarlet valve
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If the mission doesn't have L3A or higher then sure, you can use em
Otherwise tho, don't bother - unless you can go headshots, of course

jolly verge
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4.6x30 and 5.7x28 also have the highest stagger chance among pistols/smgs

scarlet valve
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For me I like the UMP family, other than that the MP5s are nice too (not Germaboo, i swear)
MPX is kinda decent to use, i like the bulky feel

solemn patio
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I really want to be able to go prone so I can shoot through the vent in 23 mb/s

rugged isle
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I just had the tought that there should be a med pouch item or gadget..since you can heal but the ai can’t and stays injured the whole mission.

jolly verge
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They have more health and tank more shots than you do, especially with armorer + nutritionist traits

rugged isle
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I need to read those traits lol

simple mountain
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Add steam backgrounds

atomic shoal
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Bro Elephant is so hard, I can't find the bombs. I can only find one.

hoary knot
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once you know the map layout they are pretty easy to find, listen for that faint beeping and move toward it as soon as you can

abstract leaf
abstract leaf
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It's always in a desk

thick dome
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listen for the beeps

jaunty pebble
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All I want is to solo a level without having to create a lobby in multiplayer to prevent the friendly AI from liquidating me

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This would be nice so that im not disconnected every 10 minutes of playtime by the shitty entity called epic game servers

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WHILE PLAYING ALONE

thick dome
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cant you just command the AI to stay put at the beginning?

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tell then to hold or cover here or something

rugged isle
versed hedge
jaunty pebble
tough bison
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Why does my game look foggy?

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nvm my brightness was just too high

jolly verge
tough veldt
rugged isle
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Also you can order that yourself if you are far away and kill a civ

sharp lagoon
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i cant use a guy cuz he got incapacitated after like a match do i get him back or is he gone gone

tough veldt
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Run the gas station mission a couple times and he will be bsck

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Unless hes dead dead

rugged isle
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If it's dead..is gone. If not, swap him with a reserve and follow the above suggestion

sharp lagoon
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It only says incapacitated

jolly verge
sharp lagoon
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Btw does the preset setting effect blood I’m tryna get the most detail without lag

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I’ve basically got everything on default except preset on high

jolly verge
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No, just don't disable worlds decals

north mantle
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what happened to the old maps? the current ones are imo extremely bland , is it possible to play the old maps again?

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like port , mansion and hotel were so fun to play

sharp lagoon
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And I’m only using a 2050 gpu

jolly verge
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It's literally changes all sliders to the quality you set

sharp lagoon
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O funni I missed the change

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Anyway thanks

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2 deaths so far

dapper granite
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I tried installing a mod, restarted the game and now the steam cloud is unable to sync, am i good to launch the game anyway?

wind gyro
dapper granite
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that doesnt sound good

jolly verge
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Imo it's better to disable steam cloud for this game and stick with local save

odd pier
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hai, i wanna play commander mode but can anyone tell me if its like sad

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i know ron is pretty dark, but does it get really sad, im pretty soft 😭

tough veldt
marsh cedar
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Hi I'm trying to get the MKV pistol but unsure how. Dose anyone know how?

odd pier
primal gate
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Just encountered a very funny multiplayer bug

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my character spawned without a primary or secondary weapon

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so I just ran around the mission with my gadget out the whole time

vale needle
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man im done with this stupid ai withstanding flashbangs and stingers to the face then perfectly blasting me away this shit sucks

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imma try my ironman mode run tomorrow because now im frustrated as hell it feels like i was cheated

quasi coral
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I've always wondered what happened to the headset option for the Kaiju SF helmet

quasi coral
hollow summit
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i just finished neon tomb on iron man mode for hermit, is there any tips for the remaining maps or for the mode in general becuase im kinda stressed..

stray gorge
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They should add ACOGs to ron

covert aurora
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Trijcon with rmr on top

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Or hamr optic

buoyant pecan
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Any news with RoN?

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I haven’t played since liek

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September or august lol

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I heard multi rail attachments and whatnot are coming

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Including my beloved G36 carrying handle

faint ibex
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Just equip it

faint ibex
bleak wren
#

is anyone else struggling to get Nexus mod maps to work?

fleet shard
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Will Ron’s graphics get fixed or is this just what they are like now

torpid onyx
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until DLC 3

covert aurora
valid raven
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is shooting into a room with the intent to not hit anyone a valid tattic

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Like shooting near them to scare them I’m told that often doesn’t work because it sometimes makes people panic

vital dove
#

Can anyone tell me whether incapacitating affects your ability to get S ranks? And whether theres a difference between hard and easy mode

stable kernel
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Without a mod, incap and dead are the same point wise and disqualify you from S rank. Hard and easy are very different behavior wise, reference the tooltips in game.

vital dove
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I stg i managed to get an S rank off unconscious

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on the gas station mission

marsh cedar
delicate hound
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Can I swap anti-aliasing modes? I think the game defaults to TAA/TSR which looks garbage

torpid onyx
covert aurora
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something interesting walking around the station, walked into the cells and i heard the inmates talking to each other.

modest bear
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Is anyone else getting that glitch where you can get oneshot with a ballistic mask and full heavy armor but suspects take 5+ rifle bullets to the chest to kill?

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also, they're ignoring bullet wounds

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(they don't react, don't pause, just keep firing as if the pain of a broken rib wouldn't immediately take them out of the fight IRL)

#

They need to reintroduce Neon Tomb's 2nd entrance. The map takes a millenia to clear now

covert aurora
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Neon Tomb only had 1 entrance

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even in early access

modest bear
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Are you sure? I distinctly remember there being a side entrance to the right

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that led directly into bathrooms

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My point still stands. The mission takes FAR too long

covert aurora
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no i agree

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i am like 98% sure there's only been one entrance

modest bear
#

Do any of the suspects have gasmasks in that mission?

covert aurora
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for neon? no, they were like balacavas alot tho and masks

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like face mask

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not gas masks tho

modest bear
#

I have an idea

covert aurora
#

hm?

modest bear
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cs :)

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I've been stuck on this stupid fucking map for weeks

covert aurora
#

fair enough

stable kernel
#

Embrace your inner John Wick and go ham

modest bear
stable kernel
#

Unlucky

modest bear
#

like why do they die in a minimum of 5 but I die in only 1 even if I have full steel plate heavy armor and ballistic mask

stable kernel
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Only takes one to the head

modest bear
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I'd love to hit headshots but I have shit aim lol

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I line up the red dot, shoot when the red dot is on their head, and miss

#

I see the "civilian surrender AI stops working at random" bug is still alive and well

rugged isle
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Never paid attention but the commands ā€œcoverā€ ā€œholdā€ are pretty much the same? Like i feel like hold makes them actually covering the openings nearby when they stop while cover they seems to just point a random direction exposing themselves..like literally looking at a wall in a hallway with nothing there.

cedar mulch
#

Why doesn't Judge have special dialogue to evaluate different organisations? I think that would be quite interesting. I'd like to hear his take on TLB TH.

modest bear
#

That would be cool

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I just want to return to the era when you could customize your skin color

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RIP playing as King

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they should make the voicelines actually affect gameplay

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"These guns are crap, always jamming", yet not once in the mission does a suspect's gun jam

hybrid belfry
#

Why every random player i'm playing with killing fucking civvilians

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I want to get an S rank, we successefuly arest everyone and then these motherufckers decide to shoot civ in the head with beanbag shotgun

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im fucking tired I need an S rank on Spider

tidal sleet
#

Then why are you playing in a public lobby?

modest bear
#

Did they nerf CS gas or somehting?

#

the AoE is tiny as shit now!

torpid onyx
#

most of the time enemies just run out of the radius even if you do land it right at their feet because of how long it takes for it to immobilise someone and sometimes I'm pretty sure it just doesn't work

rugged isle
#

And even that still very likely you e counter some sort of weird ai behavour. Other thing that should be either reverted or changed since you have no reason to use CS atm.

modest bear
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now Neon Tomb is basically impossible if you don't have CSGO pro aim and reflexes

modest bear
# jolly verge

why would they do this... as if less than lethal wasn't hard enough as it is...

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The pepperball launcher didn't NEED a nerf! It was already one of the worst guns!

jolly verge
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It's was way too OP, but nerf too strong I agree

torpid onyx
#

cs gas waa probably deemed too good so they nerfed it until it was useless

jolly verge
modest bear
#

still objectively terrible

rugged isle
#

Feel like if an officer farts it would be much more effective compared to the CS in the current state-

modest bear
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They need to bring the AoE to 5m, and bring the stun up toe 100/s

#

nice middle ground between unusable and actually viable

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Or maybe they revert to old, good cs nades but gassing civvies is against ROE?

#

bottom line, if a suspect can just run out of the room once cs has been deployed, it means it's been nerfed too far

rugged isle
#

Feel like against civs would be breaking ROE..at least you would require more intel before deploying CS.
And maybe some suspects have more resilience so a chance of escaping there is but should be rare

modest bear
#

otherwise, only suspects that have increased resistance are druggies like in 4U and 213 Park Homes

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idk why they're trying to make the game harder, tbh, it's already plenty difficult

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you gotta throw your players a bone every once in a while

rugged isle
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The difficulty is fine i think..it’s just we have CS but it’s useless compared to stingers and flashes. Still would be a way cooler way to play in my opinion just sending Cs through openings and rushing in a bit later..i get in open zones it should be still a bad option but now even in a room it’s like as if it was a gust of wind..like everybody can walk away so of course you need to rely on bangs.

modest bear
rugged isle
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I think i will try to check out a mod i saw that could revert some of the changes,,and hopefully it doesn’t conflict with others. Still as many other stuffs it should be arleady base game..or at least a patch..like you see the changes are too much, either revert until another change or make an halfway between nerf and pre nerf…it’s not even about new stuffs but tweaks to an arleady existing thing. Maybe it will be addressed i hope but still i think some small patches here and there could be a bit more frequent especially when you see the whole player base against it. And it’s not even pvp where i understand it would be more tedious to take a nerf-buff decision.

modest bear
#

The main problem I have with this game is that new PAID content, such as DLCs, are introduced before the original game itself is finished

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I understand that if devs waited for their game to be "done" and 'bug-free' before releasing DLC they may not be able to milk their playerbase for that extra $28, but at least make sure that core gameplay mechanics don't break down during normal gameplay to no fault of the player

rugged isle
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It definetly had improvements but in terms of some bugs it still feel as if it was early access state. I think the main issue is the time between updates or at least even if it takes long there shouldn’t be bugs like ai ignoring commands ecc since it’s the core gameplay..we will see i guess..agree for the dlcs feels like they are a priority instead of fixing what there is arleady.

jolly verge
rugged isle
#

What would be the middle ground in term of result, performances between them?

jolly verge
rugged isle
#

Wait Fxaa has blur? Think i might have found the issue i was having..will try to mess with them see if something changes

jolly verge
#

The only available option in game settings is TSR. All AA options have blur, some less some more

chilly thorn
#

it still works for that so its still useful

torpid onyx
#

i gave up on CS gas it takes way to long to work and rarely ever works it's just straight up easier to flash or stinger

tacit gull
#

^ this

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CS gas wasn't even good in the first place, i have no clue why they curb stomped it

tacit gull
#

It took like an hour to deploy while i could have already started arresting someone in that time

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The biggest advantage it had was it kept you safe if a suspect pushed in but otherwise i genuienly dont see why

deep sentinel
#

You know you're meant to throw it into the room and wait for it to deploy right

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Not throw it and rush in like fucking seal team six

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You're playing a police shooter you're meant to take your time with stuff

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CS was amazing if you used it properly

rugged isle
#

Wedge entrances, spam CS and check if they still breathe...repeat it they do ignoring angry TOC noises.

jolly verge
#

Suspects instead of coughing now laughing BIGtacticat

rugged isle
#

elephant first run...yeeyšŸ’€

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i managed to take 40 min on valley of the dolls because i was able to get lost twice and couldn't find the entrance where i sent the civs...let alone elephant

keen rover
#

now that things have calmed down, is the game still good after recent controversies?

lost inlet
#

it's mid.

rugged isle
buoyant pecan
#

Apparently RoN soundtrack was my most listened to album on Spotify this year

rugged isle
#

best entrance for elephant?

jolly verge
#

North, there is a chance for 2-3 suspects to spawn in/near first room

rugged isle
#

yk..maybe door traps weren't too bad compared to a timer

devout copper
#

relapsed tips

clever veldt
#

Hey devs why don’t you do something with the fucking game you’re letting it die

thick dome
#

first time we did elephant bombs went off..we had no idea. after that..we just kinda speed run it with shotguns and ga51's ..not many enemies..so bring small # ammo and lots of flash bangs. bang and clean, bang and clear quickly

whole plume
#

Gradually speeding music might work

odd pond
#

I must know what’s everyone’s least favorite mission

sudden sky
final ember
#

has .300 Blackout been nerfed or am I just seeing things?

sudden sky
#

Oh and hospital

final ember
jolly verge
final ember
tacit gull
tacit gull
#

mr eman admin abusing as usual with his gif perms šŸ™„

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(i did this aswell hihi)

stable kernel
#

Alright, bet

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Enjoy the gifs

jolly verge
stable kernel
#

gratr is not enjoying the gifs

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waste of a role

tacit gull
#

ayo

stable kernel
#

Nah it's over

stable kernel
#

You get one

jolly verge
stable kernel
#

Or how about this

tacit gull
#

i might hop back on mod team once this university shit go away

stable kernel
#

You two sergeants battle to the metaphorical death

jolly verge
stable kernel
#

Winner keeps the role, loser gets demoted

stable kernel
#

I hate that sticker

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I voted against it

jolly verge
tacit gull
#

mr eman thinks this is a democracy

stable kernel
#

It is until it isn't

#

I'm not seeing any fighting to the death

#

Man, you two even have no slowmode

#

No fun around here

tacit gull
#

too busy saving super earth

jolly verge
#

Me too

tacit gull
#

atleast its not nda

stable kernel
#

Dead server

odd pond
odd pond
hybrid belfry
#

How do I play ironman mode in co-op

heady spade
#

is there any reason to use a long range optic

whole plume
#

A Holo will more than do the job

delicate hound
wind gyro
jolly verge
delicate hound
jolly verge
old star
#

are the ai posters just placeholders for now or will they remain

tacit gull
#

They've remained for a couple of years so its pretty safe to say so

rugged isle
#

I need a green bright dot.. can't keep track of the amount of times i was looking at the optic to see where the heck that red one was.

#

Especially with exterior environments

solemn patio
#

Kicked a door down and a civ ran at me LOL

#

I doubletapped him

#

I dont know if its my ps5 or my controller but every time I move my right joystick to fucking aim i get insane delay

#

Okay is void trolling WTF ARE THESE IRONS FOR THE HK416

whole plume
#

There is no reason not to

solemn patio
#

I like the M5B more :)

#

Guess whos doing a nightvisionless run

worldly flame
#

People actually use nightvision?

full shore
#

Flashlight šŸ”¦ is king šŸ‘‘

whole plume
solemn patio
vital dove
#

I feel like incapacitation should also allow you to get an S rank

#

What’s the point of incapacitation as a mechanic if it’s the same as killing

#

I feel like you should be rewarded the same if you’re able to control your gunfire and aim at nonvitals to the point of taking someone down without killing

tacit gull
vital dove
#

Yeah which is redundant because if you’re S ranking a map then you’re not using incapacitation anyways

#

I guess it’s not for standard mission completion

tacit gull
#

Well it's not redundant for the exact opposite situation

vital dove
#

But idk I find it a bit lame that to S rank you are pigeon holed into pepper ball weapons basically

tacit gull
#

Yes, that's the point

vital dove
#

Sure but I don’t think it’s a good point

marsh lark
#

The S rank is supposed to be a challenge, not the intended way to play the game.

#

If all you had to do was use low caliber and shoot non critical spots then it would be really easy

tacit gull
#

It forces you into a different playstyle and is (or rather was) a challenge

tacit gull
marsh lark
#

yea

lofty path
#

Are we ever getting another DLC?

lofty path
#

Crazy

sonic tendon
#

i think i’m gonna buy both of the DLCs

marsh lark
thick dome
sonic tendon
zinc lantern
granite pilot
#

so it's mildly unrealistic

abstract leaf
granite pilot
#

tactical flashlight is cheap and effective

#

what is dumb about RoN is you can't have both flashlight and LCU when IRL quad grips exist

lofty path
granite pilot
#

muh immersion

lofty path
#

cause of course

young wedge
#

This game give me war ptsd

granite pilot
#

same reason some people don't ever use optiwand

young wedge
#

I can’t sleep

granite pilot
#

doors don't have gaps large enough for your momma under them

#

optiwand is OK for peeked doors but then you can already see into the room

granite pilot
young wedge
#

Nah, what is this?

#

I play to HLL sometimes

granite pilot
#

The premiere PTSD simulator

young wedge
#

I find that RoN is unique in that it is extremely immersive, with situations that are completely believable and realistic, and above all, very stressful. The atmosphere is truly oppressive

#

And seeing terrifying drawings of psychos on the walls doesn't help

#

The drawings of the girl in the third mission broke my heart too

granite pilot
#

well it's not exactly battle of Stalingrad though is it

young wedge
#

This game is literally hell

granite pilot
#

SWAT 4 is more Comfy I think

young wedge
#

It’s kinda the same game, isn’t it?

#

Just very old

granite pilot
#

yeah SWAT 4 is officially Retro this year

#

but I first played it in 2017

#

still waiting on that steam release

#

a shitty remaster perhaps

covert aurora
#

Gotta love the enviremental storytelling

tacit gull
#

deus ex remastered is enough of a warning

sage trout
#

Hi, im using rtx 4070, i downloaded all graphics update, my replay system is enabled but doesnt save any games from both multiplayer and single player, nobody can solve this

I already reinstalled game

I have 1 tb storage ssd

lost inlet
quasi coral
#

Like, prefer is reasonable, I mean, the dark atmosphere with a beam of light sounds nice

lofty path
quasi coral
#

But it being more effective over NVG's is just kinda bs

quasi coral
lofty path
quasi coral
#

That's like kicking someone for using Steel over Ceramic

#

Definitely not true officers, absolutely NOT ready wut

young wedge
#

I wonder what to wear between ceramic and steel
Btw I have a super-heavy build

quasi coral
#

Steel, but if you're playing Campaign and you got armorer you can go ahead with Ceramic

young wedge
#

Why?

quasi coral
#

The only bad thing about Ceramic is that it'll eventually break, Steel doesn't(Although Steel makes you a little slower and also has the risk of shrapnel damage to your other limbs, it isn't as bad as you'd think though)

thick dome
#

armor impacts your acceleration. full heavy steel i think was about a .5 sec impact to going from 0 to 100 speed. I just use full steel because..why not.

quasi coral
lost inlet
young wedge
#

All of this

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Everything that makes me heavier and more protected then

#

All my AI teams is like that

lost inlet
#

Then heavy full coverage steel even though I don’t recommend you going with that setup.

quasi coral
#

Pushing the threat

lost inlet
#

Shield in the corner:

quasi coral
#

Shields are for nerds gng

lost inlet
#

That’s spot is for optiwand user.

quasi coral
#

You are not shit talking my glorious Mirror Gun

#

Honestly it feels too overpowered in a sense, I don't know if that's just me, so I use it with the Picture-in-Picture mode to make it less "good"

lost inlet
#

I don’t use it, i leave it for my swat bots to do it since they can see in the dark.

quasi coral
#

And I'm damn tired of falling my team back in again

#

Not to mention if I do that, theres a small chance they'll open the door with no order or command to, and if theres a trap

lost inlet
quasi coral
unborn coral
#

I js had the Bug on relapse where the civilian doctors w the bomb vests strapped to them js would not comply despite me & my team shouting at them, meleeing them, beanbagging them, tazering them, ETC
So i’m js wondering if any1 knows how to Fix that w/ out restarting the mission..it can rlly ruin S runs

brave torrent
#

Anybody here with edgy asf gifs send them to me

jolly verge
unborn elbow
#

do walking affect accuracy?

jolly verge
foggy dagger
#

Hey would it be a good idea for the devs to add a MOVING TARGET TO THE SHOOTING RANGE??? I keep fucking Up my shots bc I miss a moving target like a dumbass

quasi coral
#

I love the dual render scopes, it definitely gives a very big level of immersion, even if the scopes aren't done correctly (YET)

#

Though, my one complaint is that the game itself is super bad on my FPS and so I have to activate super resolution, and that decreases the quality of the scope picture and that really sucks

torpid onyx
#

but I prefer having the pip optics then not

surreal pelican
#

In the Home Invasion DLC missions, are those hurricane sirens I hear that are winding down at the start of the mission?

#

It's the horn-like sounding that goes lower and mellower

gritty hollow
#

should i launch in dx12 or dx11

#

ok 11

deep sentinel
#

That's like the whole point of the dlc

surreal pelican
#

Ah aight, I thought it was something else

surreal pelican
#

Which team member do you give your shield to? Alpha or Charlie?

whole plume
#

Finally beat Oil Rig one Solo

#

Wasn't too bad tbf

torpid onyx
#

you're team will position themselves in accordance to their gadgets when breaching so shield will generally be opposite of your breacher and first though the doorway

torpid onyx
#

really the only significant thing to account for is what gadgets your red and blue team have comparably because like if you have your c2/breaching gadget exclusively on one team and don't have some sort of breaching tool on blue team then it might be a bit more difficult to order synchronised breaches

#

depends how you wanna play

surreal pelican
modern forge
#

I've discovered the best way to get suspects to comply
Give them a snickers, you aren't you when you're hungry.

gritty dome
modern forge
#

Thats an insane coincidence ngl

gritty dome
#

fr

#

you played that vr game

modern forge
#

Indeed

gritty dome
#

i forgot its name but it was a shooter

modern forge
gritty dome
#

100%, the game looks very cool

modern forge
#

It's also one of the best feeling VR shooters imo
Definitely better than pavlov or Tabor lol, both those games have horrible feeling guns.

#

Plus TAVR's quite compatible with physical gunstocks which makes it so much better

gritty dome
#

hmmmm ok

#

new player friendly game it seems

modern forge
#

Just avoid public lobbies if you get it, stick to matchmaking in their discord or with friends.

gritty dome
#

Aight

#

Will take it into account when getting my first VR

modern forge
#

Unless you get into PCVR games

modern forge
#

Virtual Reality Oasis co-founded 2080 games, which currently is publishing TAVR (and Gunman contracts)

modern forge
tacit gull
#

they made every game on the planet

dense wind
#

where is like the .ini for the settings stored? Keep getting this issue where the game doesn't properly save some of my keybinds.

#

Hold low ready, check mag, toggle attachment. Those binds don't save I always gotta set it up before playing a map.

tacit gull
#

If you're gonna change keybinds have fun with unreal's ini binding system working on key id's

gritty dome
tacit gull
#

Engine.ini is probably in appdata

cedar mulch
keen rover
#

is the friendly AI smart enough to not die when you tell them to clear a room or hallway

tacit gull
#

no

#

the friendly AI isn't smart enough to walk into rooms let alone clear them

wind gyro
modern forge
#

I had a teammate backpedal into an entirely different room down a hallway when I told him to stack up.
RoN AI are something

rugged isle
#

Depends..sometimes they clear too much, sometimes they walk backward into a hallway pointing anywhere beside in front of them

cedar mulch
#

Since losing key personnel, VOID's programming has deteriorated significantly.

thick dome
#

they should stick after that

keen rover
#

and SWAT 4 AI is stupid

keen rover
thick dome
#

wish you could have the option to have 1 or 2 AI with you when playing 2 person. each player gets a AI battle buddy

#

aka, equipment mule or rear guard

keen rover
#

what do the AI even do with laser sight

thick dome
#

or at the very least increase equipment slots when playing 2 player

keen rover
gritty dome
#

i do not want to die inside by their unrealistic unexpectations

rugged isle
modern forge
# jolly verge

Lol, guessing this was from the 1.0 devlog on steam or is this upcoming?

lone cloud
pliant frost
#

Aside from stingers penalizing you for teamhits, which is better: stingers or flashbangs?

gritty dome
#

i use flash for medium armed

#

stingers for highly armed

use a combo

pliant frost
#

What are the advantages of flashbangs?

sullen mural
#

Can anyone teaxh me some tactics im pretty new

jolly verge
jolly verge
lone cloud
jolly verge
tacit gull
hybrid belfry
#

How do I play Ironman mode in co-op

tacit gull
#

you host a coop lobby and the player who dies uninstalls the game

hybrid belfry
thick dome
#

flash had 2 advantages over sting.

  1. no FF
  2. you can flash yourself/friendlies and still function pretty well, if you are wearing AF goggles. singers, nope
#

stinger adv.. more reliable and slightly larger radius effect

trail vigil
#

Any good EU Units around?

keen rover
marsh lark
languid creek
#

Rip ready or not man it was so good for like 2-3 months. I’ll return at some point but seeing such a great game get released on console and then get 0 love and minimal support is a little heartbreaking. The 3 confirmed maps just aren’t enough.. yeah I’m a greedy bastard whatever

heady spade
sharp lagoon
#

idk why but im stuck on red team and i cant scroll with mmd to gold or blue

proven dagger
#

is there any info on the upcoming update like a date or idk

prime spear
tacit gull
#

i'm still here though JudgeDredd

prime spear
#

But when IIIIIIIIII

#

Ask a blonde woman if she’ll eat that piece of cake, I get boo-ed away?

fading herald
#

Anyone else know about the hidden graffiti in san uriel?

tacit gull
#

one day again

covert hamlet
#

the suppression affect makes them unusable the second suspects shoot back too

raw igloo
#

Hi so I’m trying to decide if I should buy this game. Just wondering is this game like scary realistic? And is there a way I knoe it sounds dumb to make the game easy where your team does not get stressed and make it where your screen does not shakes when you get shot and stuff

sick spade
# raw igloo Hi so I’m trying to decide if I should buy this game. Just wondering is this gam...

Depends on how you define scary, it certainly has very graphic material and covers very sensitive topics. In the time I have played there has been moments where I have felt a little stressed due to the high intensity of the situation (but I’m not one to get super anxious playing games so it’s different depending on the person). That being said there are ways to avoid fully immersing yourself like getting some friends on you just want to have a good time and don’t really care about the intensity

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As for the teammates you can progress through quick play which gives you random Ai every time and they don’t carry over to the next mission, removing the whole stress mechanic from the Commander Mode (story mode of sorts) and there is an ā€œeasyā€ mode called casual and many tools (like the mirror gun) that make the game a bit more streamlined

#

For your 3rd question I am not sure someone else will have to answer that

light wagon
#

Is there any update on when the next update will be out (multi rail attachment system, carry handle etc)?

light wagon
magic hearth
#

@quasi coral Amazing recreation you did! awesome stuff platinumtrophy

pure blaze
#

šŸ‘…

raw igloo
light wagon
#

Def get it at least while it's on sale

raw igloo
quasi coral
quasi coral
#

Holy, many thanks

#

It doesn't seem like it but I'm extremely happy one of you guys saw it

covert aurora
#

Also like to note, Martin is part of the art team šŸ™‚

#

And a narrative writer šŸ˜›

stable kernel
#

Martain

#

Who is this Martain?

covert aurora
raw igloo
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Well just got the game decided to get the deluxe version. Probably will play it tomorrow

torpid onyx
covert aurora
torpid onyx
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remember to turn your bodycam off

covert aurora
raw igloo
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I feel so bad was on the second mission took me one other try my team did not protect me I was arresting a guy and got shot from over head. But the streamer came running to the door thought he had a gun in his hand so I blasted him to turn out he did not have a gun

lost inlet
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Guess you’ve killed the streamer’s furry brother.

vale needle
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sins of the father is such bullshit, especially getting shot from dudes outside because the big glass entrance

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i walked across the upstairs and they still one shot me from outside like what

thick dome
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I usually shoot the furry on 23mb on principal

modest bear
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man, it feels really unfair that suspects have invincible arms

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their hands, torso, and body are damageable but their arms? The things that hold and actuate their weapons that, if damaged, would render them unable to shoot at you? Nah, shooting at those does nothing

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also why are suspects teleporting when I blink my eyes

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Why don't targets slow down when I shoot them like I do when they shoot even in my direction

craggy fable
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cause game silly

modest bear
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like, the beanbag shotgun should NOT be the only gun that stuns enemies when you shoot them in the chest

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because that's what happens when you get shot with a bullet, vest or not

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did they increase the self-inflicted flashbang damage or something?

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my flash goggles don't do shit anymore

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also suspects are shooting through walls?

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ok yeah this is utter bullshit, why are suspects shooting through foot-thick walls

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they've nerfed too much since I last played

modest bear
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why tf did they add railings everywhere if I can't throw grenades through them

frigid sand
modest bear
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but if i shoot their arms with the beanbag shotgun it should at least stop them from shooting for ~3 seconds

frigid sand
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100% agree with you dude

scarlet flax
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Shoulda seen pre AI nerf.

prime kiln
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Has judges wiki page always been like that or am I missing something

reef sequoia
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Whats y’all’s favorite Scope / Optic if you had to choose between these 2?

1 - Red Dot Scope
2 - EO Tech Scope

Me Personally, Im Choosing Red Dot.

chilly thorn
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Guys have you heard that the Adam update drops soon

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Im excited for the new blood it looks insane!

keen rover
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are public lobbies/playing with randoms a bad idea?

keen rover
chilly thorn
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They need to make ROE stricter honestly

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For maps like Neon Tomb it makes sense to shoot on sight but like Crackhouse?

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For example you can shoot a suspect who is unarmed and actively surrendering with ZERO punishment

tacit gull
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Oh yeah ROE along with anything that makes the player think before shooting was hard nerfed in EA

chilly thorn
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like especially with difficulties being added ROE should be like a main priority for the devs to get right

tacit gull
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ROE hasn't been touched in hard mode

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which is kind of ridiculous, i mean i think ROE would have been an amazing way to set apart hard mode rather than just making suspect snap to you again

chilly thorn
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The fact that you can shoot somebody if they surrender as long as you do it while the animation is playing is just

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absurd

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you basically only get unauthorized use of force if they are actively on their knees

tacit gull
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I get that there needs to be a grace period so people dont get bullshit penalties but

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how it is currently is just absurd

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And it definetly leads to players in pubs abusing it to shoot surrenders

chilly thorn
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I don't really see a point of a grace period since 90% of the time when they surrender they wont actively be shooting you

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so its the players fault for making that mistake

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Maybe they should have a mechanic where they drop their weapons and make it clear to you that they are planning on surrendering before leaving cover?

tacit gull
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you can't guess that the suspect is gonna surrender the second your 5.56 enters his eye

chilly thorn
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I think the whole surrendering system needs to be much more indepth as its like the main focus of the game

cedar mulch
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Is the AK103 merely a modernised AKM?

tacit gull
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Yeah i think so, it uses black polymer for its hand touchy parts rather than wood

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the 100 series is like different role AK's like the 105 i think is a carbine and the 104 shoots a different caliber

chilly thorn
tacit gull
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Actually i think the 103 would be like a newer ak-74 since it shoots 545

tacit gull
chilly thorn
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I don't see how fake surrenders being obvious would make the gameplay better especially since the animations are super easy to learn making the game predictable

tacit gull
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Because being able to see what the suspect is doing is important, fake surrenders are there to punish you for not keeping an eye on suspects, not to kill you because the guy with a backpack as armor is a secret FSB agent

cedar mulch
tacit gull
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I dont see why people in america would have that over the way cheaper soviet AK's

cedar mulch
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The AKM is far too prevalent; it ought not to be so commonplace in the United States. Makarov is the same.

chilly thorn
tacit gull
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It makes sense for the russian mafia since they have their pick and they know that gun well

tacit gull
cedar mulch
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Other organisations should not be using the Makarov or AKM at all.

tacit gull
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I think currently suspects have glitched shooting states where they'll have like a MASSIVE delay to the point where they'll fire shots while surrendering

chilly thorn
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I think this could just be solved by having more variety in animations like theres only like 7 different surrender animations

tacit gull
cedar mulch
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I recall that in the 2020 and 2019 versions, the suspect animations were considerably smoother than they are now.

tacit gull
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I don't think the suspect animations have changed

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And i can guarantee you that's not true as suspects usually just instantly transferred to different animations without any in-between

chilly thorn
tacit gull
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You'd have a suspect in a chill state and with perfect movement he'd bring his weapon up using only his arms and instakill you

chilly thorn
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I think one of the big problems is that the suspect don't have any animations for turning around and instead the spin around like a statue

tacit gull
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They do have animations for turning around but sometimes they just look really bad