#👮ron-discussion
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the game should also require us sit in the bearcat/chopper for however many minutes it takes to get to the location
we should also have to spend time filling out all the paperwork related to our performance
atleast the gameplay would change for once
shit my loading screen already takes 5 mins to load. i dont need a whole ass journey to the location
end of the world for whoever loves to kill civis
oh HELL NAH
paperwork
i'll be stuck doing a 9-5 for 3 weeks after every mission
could be a month on some maps
why did you shoot the civi. idk he cussed at me
no, i was fighting a bastard and he came in front me tryna aurafarm or some shit
bro died in 2 seconds
he did the 67 thingy
im sorry he came in u?
yeah
What feels better than loading up ready or not with the zombie mod and the MG338 mod installed
(Cant forget the full metal jacket rounds for maximum wall pen.)
im in such a good mood after todays RoN session
finally got 10K casualties, mixed of both suspects and civs
Peak
cleaning up the streets, one crook (and one civ) at a time
Absolute peak
playing RoN super tactically
ok
who got time to act CAG when a suspect with a shotgun 357 u
get on
tried my best making a SAS 90s fit
Ah I can't wait for the attachments addition
You know, I've been wondering about an addition 10.5 Inch AR-15 platform, maybe the L119A2? Or something like that
Just feel like we don't have enough 10.5"MLOK AR-15's ya know? Considering the game has fixed weapon models.
Theres the ARWC.. And that's it, and it would totally make sense for S.W.A.T. officers to utilize MLOK based kits on AR-15's
I'm still waiting for the update VOID, please don't be 2026, think about the SALES if it was before Christmas
Actually, no no wait that might cause major development errors
its that point in the mission where your officers just wont respond to a single command anymore 💔
I never tested Kevlar plates
Are they that bad?
Kevlar on paper should stop anything up to rifle round

Imagine a level where theres a ring of people killing randos and recording it as shock/gore content and posting it onto sketchy sites
so basically leviathan?
can enemies "see" the door opening if you peek it and push it open manually? ignoring if they see you..just talking about the door motion.
yeah, i learned the hard way 😭
breathe too loud and they will be on your neck
Yeh
Nope
glad to see friendly AI is still beyond stupid with zero reaction time
Is it possible that more commands for directing AI teammates will appear in the future?
I really wish I could order my AI teammates to lift up arrested suspects or civilians.
And refuse to arrest surrendered suspects.
nope ur good
any tips?
because i saw on the mission task list that there were bombs
im kinda worried about that ever since the school shooting mission...
yea but time isnt of the essence for that map. unlike the school one
the bombs dont tick off?
Depends on which weapon you using
Though there are very few people with armor
So you can safely use JHP
Meldonin or Sleeper Agent
okay
btw what are requirements for S rank on missions?
because i dont kill anyone on missions but i keep getting A or A+
Does anyone use Epic Mod at all?
Please do not discuss it on this server.
Potentially
Just try to be careful, the bomb isnt as active a threat as they say and theyre always the same place
Haven’t been tapped in in a while,
Any new dlc? Missions? Soon? Maybe?
you also need to do all the side things
What is up with it? I am unfamiliar
like reporting the vet in thank you come again
As stated by Mod.io staff and other individuals, it contains stolen mods from creators who have not given permission for anyone to edit/change or upload their mods to those people.
Therefore, please do not talk about it here.
Ah okay makes sense then. I am on console, so it wouldn't be possible anyway, but good to know
Yeah.
Oh, I didn't know that, I'ma delete it then.
When is the update, this bugs are ruining it for me (I shoot the guy holding a hostage 6 times in the head and he ate my bullets like its nothing and killed the hostage)
useless
only useful if ur larping and doing cqb tactics where u need to be fast when entering doors
and if ur doing that right u wouldnt be shot to begin with
Finally did it. Thx for the help
Imagine taser shield combo
Did hide and seek last night. I was spoiled on what was going to happen when I opened that container, but after I closed it I felt nervous. Out of all the emotions to feel after seeing that I don’t know why I felt nervous.
Does anyone have a clue why I have the hermit achievement but not the developers watch? It has the same parameters for unlocking it says.
well at least you got protected by the censorship
We need a new rifle not gonna lie
Like another high caliber gun like the scar
How do you use the c2 charges on PC like how do you place them down
u select it and place it on the door. above eye level
Guys when is the next update these bugs are really pissing me off
6 or 7 months maybe
Hey, any tips or strategies for Mirage At Sea? 😅
2-3 minutes to find Arabian Rich guy, better spawn on middle level (floor) and find him through "Captain bridge", maintenance room, and big middle room and on high floor also big room
When TOC says "There are multiple active shooters on sight" better restart. Cause Arab alr gave an order to kill civilian
Sydney, buy me ARC raiders, and I'll be making poopy arts for you
Gotcha, thank you.
@faint saddle
Yeh?
@faint saddle
Uh huh.
"This is TOC entry team, pls walk through the door with trip-wire"
“Entry Team to TOC—WE GOT AN OFFICER DOWN, NEED MEDICAL ASSISTANCE ASAP!! Thank you.”
I wish judge was a little less calm talking to toc itd be funny to hear him yelling post firefight “ENTRY TEAM TO TOC, OFFICER DOWN!” or smth
Like loudly
He is "special", so let him be
Autism or terminator/MKUltra kind of special
Just one shot from Recoiless
Recoilless rifle in RoN when
When suspects be leaving the food in the fridge for 67 months and some titan will come out of there
Australia DLC will have us fighting bile titans (realistic)
Pacific Rim level I would say
Good Job!
1 - 3 months from now 
i wish there were more dark levels
for the night vision goggles, it feels like they're only useful in about 3 missions
Time of Day for Missions would be so good
Like, make it a toggle setting after you complete the main game
“Breaching!”
<entire house goes boom>
i mean i think it obviously wouldn't work for all missions but the idea isn't half bad
For certain missions.
For like thank you come again, 23 mbs or wtv, the emergencies, not the big crackdowns tho.
nah just make them all able to have different ones, by that point it's to mix the gameplay up after beating everything
It would be cool if every time there was a chance to have a civ with a gun do your job for you for the most part (shoot the suspects) and now you have to find the civ and make SURE they surrender and dont shoot yer ass
Do any of the missions which already aren't Night ones, have much reason for them not being able to happen at Night?
Or at least, being able to do things like turning lights off to go in silent would be interesting if that'd fit the realism more.
Imagine if you could play as regular police
Cutting the power?
Elephant is probably the one mission that would be the weirdest at Night
Though Night Classes do exist for many Colleges irl
Especially as a Community College
yeah
I feel like that's been discussed about before, but it'd be cool to have as an option
Anyways ahem
I wanna pit maneuver suspects in a police cruiser
Unauthorized Use of Force everywhere 😭
I lowkey love the fleeing felon rule its tuff as hell off topic
Like yeah shoot his ass if hes running off
(For dangerous suspects/prior felons)
bro..... Swan just opened a random door behind us for no reason and it got me killed
why did he do that
Changing time of day wouldn't really fuck with the lore that much, for some maps not all but I could see having an option to do the methhouse raid during the day or Carriers of the Vine at night. Obviously not all maps should support it (for example a active shooter cant really be a planned raid) but I think it would be a cool addition.
random question but does anyone know this voice mod or what character he’s using
Do any of you guys know when new maps are coming? I’ve S+ every map and kinda just messing around with my friends atp lol
Q1 of 2026 most likely
That’s what I figured
mod some maps in
I can’t I’m on console
Bring back wenderly hills hotel bro😔
og shit
Fr
i got the mod for it. amazing
As a new player what are stupid yet obvious advice I can get ?
So far I've just done lethal obsession in commander mode
Games feels way better than I expected it to be
Especially on consoles
Understandable
You can command civilians to go to the start of a level. I like doing this because they can get out of the way and not be taken hostage
How do you do that ?
I think they can be grabbed tho when they're running
relapse is the most frustrating level ever
Ho by grabbing them ourselves
That's great to know tbh
Whatever the button is to give orders is how you do that
Ok I'll def try that next mission I do
Speaking of my next mission is
Brisa cove
I wonder how that will go
Thankfully I did it yesterday with a friend so I roughly know the layout
So far I have the long gun on me and I genuinely cannot switch it
Like it's way too useful
For me right now
which gun is that?
I believe it's the name of the equipment that lets you look below doors
I can be wrong tho
Yes that thx
I only ever run that or the riot shield
Haven't run riot shield yet
I've only really just got the game this week
So much to try
And so on
It's very situational. I wouldn't run it as my main gadget, but it can be useful for specific areas on maps
Also quick gun question the
MK16 what does it shoot ? Is it 5.56 or 7.62
Hell yeah man! It's a lot of fun to just mess around with the different stuff
Idk what it's chambered in but you can change any guns bullets from Armor penetrating to Hollow points in the game
If I had to take a wild guess tho, 5.56
Fair enough that's what it felt like
Wanted to be somewhat sure since it's not said anywhere
5.56
sweet
Right my weapon of choice is either the ump's
And the pdw that shoots .300 blackout
Forgot the name of the gun
The only different guns with different ammo are: SL47 (7.62x39mm), MK17, SA58 (7.62x51mm), ARN-180, MCX. PDW (and probably something else) (.300BLK)
I really like the g36c that's my go to
Thank you for those details
I usually do non-lethal runs tho, so I don't really mess w the guns a whole lot lol
In any case, if you want to see damage properties, or what ammo type is used, you can look here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1d89lpFDA9lo_v13iBlnhtuA6DvuUnKfPaeo0d4RBGJ4/edit?gid=700315143#gid=700315143
Ho nice imma keep that
I did not know that, imma also use that lol
it contains all around statistics of suspects, weapons, morale, stress, etc.
It is constantly being updated by MMM (or as we call him, sheet man)
I want to do an ironman run at some point so I'll take a look at that also, thank you!
What is an iron man run ?
You have to beat all 18 levels without dying. If you do it deletes your save
there's also an achievement for having none of your ai squad members die or quit due to stress also that i'm going for
Sounds hard as hell
Do you have to beat them with a certain score of just beat them ?
If you know the maps it isn't too bad from what I understand. Some of them are rough tho and it can definitely be unpredictable at times
Nah you just have to beat them
So technically you could just go full lethal for the achievement
NOT AS HARD AS BEATING 5 GUYS OFF WHEN UR TEAMMATE IS RELAODING
idk y it was in caps
if you get into a lot of gunfights and do stressful stuff like that you can cause you're not careful
which achievement
The world I think? the ironman one
I'll see if I even survive playing the game first
lol
it truly is tough
Btw is lethal obsession a hard mission ?
Bc the main guy in there is a pain to get
I got into 2 firefight with him and I lost each time after dumping a whole mag on him
It's not too bad just take it slow and check every entry way for traps
what gun are you using
and did you even hit your shot
It was ump 45
And I dumped at least fromy pov half the mag in his front plates
It was too hectic to be sure of more hits
Since I died extremely quickly
hard mode?
I'm on standard
The funny part is that on the run right after I opened a door and he surrendered immediately
And I was flabbergasted by that
the main guy has l3a armor, which is super effective against handgun and smg caliber, it takes 8-9 shots in the body to down him with .45 acp
yeah the encounters in this game could be pretty random at times
Ah might be why I lost
You'll want something with higher penetration, like the MP7, P90, or a rifle.
Or them headshots.
apparently the l3a is his dingdong
if you're on console and is bad at managing recoil i'd recommend f90, the bullpup
gone, reduced to ashes
Is there in game stats that tell me all those details or I have to use the Google doc
nope, you'll have to use the doc if you want to minmax
It's roughly based on realism. 45ACP just isn't going to compare to 5.7 or 4.6 for armor pen.
if you like spraying AND smg try mp7
Tbh i mostly just play by doing burst and never full auto
all the more reason why you should use the f90, its perfect in short burst
almost no recoil at all if you just hold it a tinsy tiny bit
I'll have to try all the guns anayway
krill issue
Sr 16 ? I'll have to use it at one point
Now that I think about it when it comes to handguns I'm unsure what to take
any, but ideally five seven because of its superior caliber or mkv for oneshot potential,
Ok I'll keep that in mind
When going up against unarmored though, I'd swap to 9mm or 45ACP for the pistol. 5.7mm will go straight through em and not do much cause it's "too good." .357 and .50 are nice, but if you can't handle the recoil, or need more shots, they are a bit of a risk.
never use any 45 acp pistol imo, mag capacity too low to even make any of them a consideration
yeah
I'm not getting close to them
usp 45, tle and m45a1
USP has decent mag size though, right?
I got enough of those in literally any fps game ever
Usp has 15 ?
Around that I believe
12
Also in game how many magazine do you use for the main weapon and handgun
Yeah that's plenty. If ya need more than 12 .45 shots in a pinch I think you need more practice.
Depends on how many people I feel like taking alove, and whether I'm on standard or hard.
3 main and 2 side seems like a decent starting point.
theres this mechanic called staggering, when shot at suspects have a chance of staggering, which soft stun them for a bit, rendering them unable to shoot back at you and potentially stop them from moving, reason why any handgun caliber that isnt 5.7 feels kinda irrelevant
If you run out of mags, bring one more next time. If you don't, I wouldn't go below 3 main and 1 side though, unless you are trying to challenge yourself.
me personally i dont run handgun
i never felt the need for it
I see what you mean
I'll have to experiment
Now I'm on standard
When I've done the game in standard I'll try it in hard
If you are running something longer for the primary, especially on maps with large open areas like Port, having a secondary can be a lifesaver for the close quarters stuff, not having to fit your long gun through the door.
ever thought of just not standing too close to the wall?
Also how good is the game with 5 player ?
I have. I found my pistol kills just as well when used corrently.
Since so far I've only played with one friend
Can be quite fun. I'd say much better with friends than with the team ai, but that depends on your friends.
depends on who the 5 player is, your friends? yeah its fun, randos? basically spinning the dice for good teammates
What about ppl from here
Huh I somehow missed that channel
idk tbh i always random queue
i like a little bit of trolling
Also doesn't PC have more weapons than console ?
i've heard so yeah, some weapons that are freely available on pc are apparently locked behind console premium or something
Ho right when it comes to the dlc's does everyone have to get it to be able to play the map ?
someone else with the dlcs can host the map for you to play with
When I checked the version of the game I could by I saw that 3 weapons were locked behind a higher tier
That is genuinely a good feature
yeah 
does anyone know if i can just soft complete missions for ironman mode? for example killing someone instead of arresting
Yes, for Ironman mode, the task is to simply survive and your officers survive
Guessin you're going for the watch, then yea, you can literally get all D's, for as long as your officers(And you) is alive and kickin
alright good, sick of doing s rank having to do all objectives lol
expecially on hard mode
100% doing this ironman on standard
what are the best traits to use or whatever ive never done swat ai properly before
for non-lethal or lethal
lethal
I really think the Nutrionist, and Veteran are the best combat wise
On Ironman, paramedic is a MUST
1 armorer 1 nutrutionist for ai and your own survivability, and whatever traits that reduce stress gain for swat ai so they dont resign
im pretty sure paramedic dont save you
It save yo officers, and my guy is probably tryna get that watch
yeah the watch is all im going for atm
ive never done commander mode only singleplayer quick play
for the watch, going non-lethal is easier tbh, because the rotary launcher exists
yeah that thing saved my life getting s rank hard mode on all missions
apart from dlcs i aint done those on hard, yet..
i just thyink taking a shotgun and blasting any suspect i see will be better tho, so sick of playing non lethal
start from the main enterance not the car park its way easier that way
thanks for the tip
lost 6 officers due to this crappy mission
i can assure everyone that only 5 SWAT members wont be dispatched to clear this big ahh hospital
also, in ready or not its normal to fail right, this is my first playthrough of this game
yes im decently experienced and it took me about 6 hours to s rank hide and seek on hard mode with some other people
a lot of it is luck with where suspects spawn and how many do aswell
i played for the 1st 9 days ago
aa, so experienced based game
its an incredible game just so fucking hard at certain points
especially neon tomb and this relapse
hardest mission is 3 letter triad from the dark waters dlc
breaking my ass right now
gotta get DLCs
Man I lost my first ai on the stupidest move I could have ever done
I lost him by telling him to open a door I hadn't checked
And ofc that door had a grenade
I'm starting to get used to the controls in commander mode
It feels good
When I don't fuck up
i have work in a few hours am i able to close the game after doing some missions in ironman mode then come back later a the run still be legit?
i hate the trapped doors
it doesnt have to be done in one session
it just has to be the same save
okay thank god
man I'm literally stuck on relapse hard mode rn xD
been trying to S rank it for like a week now
the swat ai is really dumb tho they dont check their corners, they dont move out of line of fire, sometimes they refuse to perform commands
90% of the time I restart is because one of them dies
EXACTLY
i tell them to cover my arse, but no, they gotta think about dinner or something
I tell them to secure suspects and by the time they do one of them stands up again and starts shooting them in the back
I mostly have trouble with the top floors where the bombs are, the others are pretty easy to clear
exactly
the lower floor is easy but the suspects are so RESTLESS
I found that stingers are actually kinda useful for clearing bigger rooms with cover
I have over 500 hours in the game and until now I thought stingers were completely useless and flashes were just straight upgrades
Well it's kinda obvious. Flash is good for open rooms but stinger is filled with rubber and rubber bounces, hence why it is good for rooms with props
Time for mods
How do I install
And how do mods work in this game I don’t get it
previously my only experience with them was getting a friendly fire penalty and I didnt know their radius was actually larger than the flash
so I never used them
Place .pak files for each mod in \steamapps\common\Ready Or Not\ReadyOrNot\Content\Paks\, where ever you download them from. That's all. I prefer to make a subfolder called mods \Paks\mods\ but that's optional (any pak files in the Paks folder or subfolders should load).
You get FF penalty with flashes too
Probably in December
I thought you dont anymore
at least I haven't gotten one in ages
You still do
hey guys im looking for some players, add me 1901731546 (friend code) on steam
Yo quick question. Does anyone know how to get the quad nods in tan? Cause I sometimes see that my mates have them but I just cant figure out how to get em. Tbh I've only joined the discord for thks question cause Google, TikTok and Youtube didnt give me an answer 
You need the supporter edition
You can’t buy it anymore
shit.
There are always mods if you're on PC, but anyone who doesn’t have the same ones installed won’t be able to see them. From their perspective, they'll likely just appear as the default quad nods if at all.
dont mods invalidate mission ranks?
or is it only certain mods
No, only thing that will happen is you'll get text on the end mission screen saying unofficial score since you have mods installed but it's just text it doesn't do anything else your ranks will still be recorded and achievements and cosmetics will still be unlockable.
huh. Is that a bug or is that supposed to be like that
It's intentional as far as I'm aware Void never bothered to change it at least been a thing for a long time.
nexus mods
Cries in Console
some replacement mods are just weird. some can be seen soem cant
join a milsim group and larp
its more fun than u think
Real
anyone noticed how the graphics varies from match to match or am i just tripping balls
The only reason why a mod would be seeable to those who don’t have it installed is that the mod utilizes assets from the game files.
so some replacements use assets from the game files while some dont?
Nah Milsim isnt for me
thats what i thought until i randomly joined one milsim lobby
I’m not really sure if I’ve ever seen a replacement mod work that way, but there are cosmetics and weapons that aren’t used by default in the game and still exist in the files. These can be unlocked with mods and used as their own items without replacing anything. That said, someone using in game assets to replace an item, and having that change be visible to others who don’t have the mod installed, wouldn’t be entirely implausible.
same man
second day playing the game and i havent had as much fun like that before
still tryina find who they even are and what group they’re in
It's all about finding the right group really and what you prefer. I like milsim groups that are more chill I'm not much one for the overly serious wannabe drill sergeant groups.
the hardest part of milsim rp is holding yourself back when doing CQB, its very easy to just play as u do and then u end up either getting fried by the enemy AI or by your CO
ive seen some uniform retextures that i do not have installed which is weird
You really sure they're retextures and not just DLC or supporter edition cosmetics you don't have?
positive
i have a camo retexture. my friend doesnt have it, but shes able to see it
I have been in Milsim before in ARMA
Re-downloading the game will fix the graphics?
I saw someone uploading a headquarters screenshot and it's not any close to mine with even max settings. Any ideas?
Which HQ exactly? Old one from 1.0 release, dlc1 or dlc2?
@jolly verge
most mods like attachment expansion m4 carbien arent working 🙁
Sarfarhaz101
AC130 support when
100% needed in greased palms
considering you allegedly have 26gb of mods perhaps their mod is using a texture one of yours does as well
Oh and port hokan
its legit they sent a pic before 😭
misery
man i was so glad i beat that in ironman, never need to touch commander mode again
I am stuck on it lowkey
(In commander mode..)
I hate how high suspect morale is
I want to try to get atleast above a c
rotary grenade launcher goes brrrr
i got an E for greased palms and everyone was stressed asf
almost lost one right there man
I remember being super sad after losing my longest serving member who survived and stayed with me for so many mission fails and deaths and didnt die ever, he retired and has super ptsd
I imagine he has nightmares of being back on D platoon
dude probably ended himself right after retiring
I like to imagine he enjoyed killing all those people

with a smile to his face
He probably transferred to an office job trust
Did I just headcanon up my own story
yes
@jolly verge It was screenshoted 2 days ago
There's several different versions of the HQ based on what gamemode you are in/what point you are at in commander mode.
I miss the DLC1 Police station
nobody likes greased palms
Elephant is prolly more annoying
i find elephant fun tbh
elephant is fun for a "kill everyone" run
but when you're legit playing it's annoying because you can't play it slow you have to essentially blitzkrieg the map and even then they'll start executing civilians halfway across the map from where you are
The suspects in elephant are scary
I was pinged in the screenshot channel?
really wish i would change NVG mask size i wn be able to look uner said nods
I will personally blood eagle whatever Dev came up with Greased Palms
skill issue
guys
i finally S ranked greased palms on hard
duo, not commander
it literally took something like 800 attempts
good shit
we used to pray for times like these
Hi Sydney, I wish you a good day Sydney
you too brother. stay safe out there
Keep yourself safe buddy
stay strapped at all times
I dreamt I was playing ron and the enemies actually had normal reaction times, even in my dream I was so confused
The old hotel map felt like liminal spaces is it just me though?
random question but does anyone know this voice mod or what character he’s using
800???
I salute you for that, in any case
I recently got more Hard S Ranks solo/in QP (which means no extra stats from SWAT AI), I tried Greased Palms and did well until the middle area
The worst part is that my SWAT AI wouldn’t ARREST THE SUSPECTS
I was trying to tell each team (Red and Blue) to go arrest the Suspects, because there were like 6 of them on the ground surrendered at a time
they would barely listen or move, and let a few of them get back up
while I was tying some of those same Suspects myself
oh my fucking lord WHY IS RELAPSE SO HARD
The bridge in the middle is one of the scariest areas ngl
Since you might get randomly beamed from through a window
honestly Floor 2 is so scary
no visiblity and enemies
man atp they should just send special forces
5 SWAT officers won't be deployed alone for such a large building
Relapse is fairly easy
im very new to this game
Real, first or second time I tried to go through it people flooded in through both doors, and I died
Yeahhh just tedious
Shield is usually required
Imagine a weapon proficiency system
Where the more you use certain guns the better you become at em
Like faster and more efficient reloads, faster pumps on pump guns, and better recoil control
Id totally main the revolver if that existed
i hope the AI gets brains
If it did that would be so tuff
Just a bunch of revolvers and near instant reloads and extremely high firerate
oml
Like they have fingers made of adamantium
i would actually love that, maybe a new arcade mode for this game for this feature would be so tough
Suspects? No provlem POWPOW
Imagine being able to dive on the ground for cover and sprint
Like not very far or fast
can you somehow make your team ai not shout all the time, or does it even reveal your position?
Imagine an economy system for certain non issued guns
Like you get paid for completing missions and certain ones pay better

All my guys have ptsd now
I had to use full auto
I accidentally gave all my guys breaching shotguns
There aint gonna be any more doors.
Cs gas is actually op when it works wth
so never? 
Its kinda on and off. but from my experience when someone uses gas it has worked. i have nvr seen gas not work yet
Suspects usually just walk out of gas now, they need to be particularly cornered and genuinely have nowhere to go to get out since they can actually walk the length of it to get out before they start coughing
damn. thank god i dont use gas at all. one less thing to piss me off
Does anyone have any news about the VRO mod because I heard it was releasing today on the store page
Hey anyone know when the next update is?
soon
Q1 2026 most likely
hi medic
I aint a medic
you are now 
When I played Arma I used to be a combat medic
I wish we had some sort of shot placement breakdown..
would be especially nice to know if the moron that shot me at least got wounds in return
So hitmarkers?
or a post-death screen telling me after the fact that i hit Perp 1 twice in the stomach at 1 minute 35 seconds perp 2, once in the neck at 2 minutes 3 seconds and perp 3 in the chest once at 2 minutes 28 seconds, then died at 2 minutes 32 seconds or something
is there a approx release date for the next update?
can i pay someone to make a mod that changes everyone not a team mate into a bright color?
i am sick of looking at a person and not realizing it until i've got a bullet in my gut
You have nightvision, flashlight.
You can use a wand
There are many, many functions or features and equipment that help you with that.
ain't enough.. my eyes are crap and my profile picture isn't just for laughs 😛
Unless the mod crashes, there is a mod for thermals
uuh.. good shout.. will look around tomorrow
You bring up an interesting point, that the gameplay design isn’t inherently inclusive in that regard. Compared to BF with its contrast options and colour blind modes.
However, I think that the gameplay is designed to be overwhelming and chaotic.
An enhanced AAR could go a long way in a RoN sequel however. That and multiplayer. I feel like that was a really missed opportunity. Even swat on swat
Red chem lights vs blue
problem is, i will never make a SWAT team full stop, so would like to skew the odds in my favor to get me closer to what an actually competent player would experience, without resorting to straight up wallhacks, if such a thing even exists
would even settle for a character skin replacement that made everyone look like green morph suits
hi all. What time VR mod will be out? Thanks
I feel like the lockpick gun would break the lock
It depends on the mechanism of it though and the mechanics of how exactly that one works because there are different types
I know the one in game i think work with a spring loaded mechanism that spins the pick and pushes it upward with a lot of force snapping the Tumblr and getting it stuck in place past the shear position, which causes it to release
Vr on this game will be out
If you want information about the VR mod, please visit the mod's discord server.
can anyone help? I cant play multiplayer cause there is no connection to the epic serevers. I checked the file, reinstalled Epic and even linked my stea account but nothing works
you dont have to post this everywhere
Im trying to get help as much as I can for a product that I paid my money for and which isnt working.
dont expect to get an answer in 10 minutes then
I didnt say that I want the answer in 10 min. U came up with that right now
yeeah, it was no AI with a friend, we died a ton
what gun has the largest mag?
p90
any rifle?
I dont think rifles go beyond 30 rounds
yeah
the og m4 had extended mag that can increase 5rounds
but now in vanila state
largest rifle mag is 30 rnds
ok thx
Is the Hawaiian shirt still obtainable? I glanced through but didn’t notice it
It should be obtainable
how do i get the m249? General chat is useless as always
I would say mods but Castanella says its outdated or something
#🔧modding-chat message
There is this lmg mod tho
ok thx
You need to S rank every level using only the pepperball pistol and no swat ai, after that you need to buy 3 pepperball pistols IRL and tape them together, fire all of them exactly 5 times and use the sounds as morse code to get a secret code you need to put into the elevator door to open it up, then pantless gerard scott will hand it to you.
yup, this is getting saved
or is this related to #🪹the-sepulchre-arg
hey does anybody get the Host Connection Error while trying to join your friend? we have tried uninstalling all of our mods many times and even reinstalling the whole game, we both have the same region set in the game (dunno if that even makes any difference) but it still just gives us that error 🙏
pre- playstation update gerard 🔥
sync time in windows settings
swinging dinga ling
REMEMBER WHAT THEY TOOK FROM YOU
exactly
i get the port hokan one but did they really have to take away my gerard
I literally CANNOT play the game without gerard gng now its no longer dark and gritty... its just tears up light and... silly...
fr
the mere implication of gerards freedom being revoked means I must send a bomb to a Void Devs house (real)
i dont remember if we heard the name, but is the fisa guy in hide and seek agent adams from greased palms, or am i forgetting the chronological order
will they be ready or not
This will truly be my Ready Or Not Special Weapons and Tactics ™
i already decided to materialize greased palms suspects and put them in the void HQ to see how funny it is now
The Hide and Seek fisa agent is a different dude. Im assuming hes way higher in the food chain than Jack Adams as well considering hes commanding a mission.
yeah i just searched up the chronological order, im just gonna boo and thumbs down because itd be cool
Jack adams is probably just a random FBI investigator type, Im assuming that the unnamed dude on port is like a higher up.
theyre both mean
They are both pretty mean
adams is a stinky traitor and port hokan guy is mean to us
also why out of all colors to dye your hair adams chose piss bright yellow
he wanted to be johnny bravo
but realized he has to have big muscles (adams could never)
this is kinda random but I hope in the future void makes it so accesorries like sunglasses or hats fall off of suspect when they hit the floor it doesn't really make sense for a pair of sunglasses to stay on their head when they fall face first on the floor
i second this
and also some kind of incentive like an accessory for beating hard mode
they got lucky with me because i love completion but maybe not for other people
They should add more character customization or lock certain cosmetics to difficulties
also make it so you actually have to unlock dlc cosmetics
Tattoos should be got by S ranking DLC levels not the second you buy them
maybe an accessory for S ranking all levels to add to the flex outfit of ruined watch+ swat 99
like the hawaiian shirt but cooler
yeah it still is giving us the host error
idfk
#💻tech-support and what host error be specific
one thing ive noticed about the outfits is that not all cosmetics can really have synergy with eachother, atleast in colors
more color schemes to some stuff would be really nice
Add a Rolex for S ranking all the dlcs levels, and Add a glove accessory that is a diamond ring for All Non-DLC levels to match the Ruined Watch iced out shit
and for gods sake why isn't there a single pair of fingerless gloves in this game T~T
honestly i think itd be really cool for it to be a helmet for S ranking all levels
yk because they shoot your head once in S and you gotta restart
Their was concept art for a raincoat outfit for port hokan that never got added
milkytoes merch when
since they are adding extra weapon customization they should let us change the colors
Black LVAR
anyone know how to code? i’m making a game with my friends
would they ever add k9 to ready or not?
does anyone have tips for the stolen valor map on hard mode
like anything i NEED help
Does anybody know the release date or any more information about the multi rail system update coming out?
It would be kinda difficult to add imo. Would it be a tactical option like a shield? How would you avoid it from being magdumped by the suspect around the corner? What would it do?
No I js hope it’s soon
Same cause ngl the games been stale for me lately, I finished all the maps so I’ve just been occasionally on it when I’m bored to quickly do a mission.
Bro I want them to atleast just add a map editor and people can post maps 😭 u don’t need mods to do that
Does anyone know when we’re expecting this next patch update? It’s been a hot minute.
that's essentially the bare minimum to keep this game relevant (in the console space)
Ong 😭
what we think about a Daniel Defense MK300 with a beanbag shotgun as secondary
they should fix the graphics, CS gas, and AI
but only for a single day as an april fools joke
Don’t give em ideas
What’s the Daniel defense?
after that they release a patch that removes the lighting engine and antialiasing entirely
it's just called the ddm4 PDW
Ah
and remove all the violence, gore, and adult content
Ion like the trigger delay on it
just make it a flappy bird clone
And turns the guns to paintball guns
I have a beanbag shotgun out with a shield
the ddm4 shouldn't have any noticeable delay
also what shenanigans are you up to
and adds a battle pass and emotes
And get rid of humans and make it robots
SMG with shield.
And make the game cell shaded
unironally the game looked better on ue4 the new ue5 lighting/rendering sucks and made everything looks flat and single tone
the game looked super good before the ronsole update
And also I js wanna put this out there. The death animation are butt cheeks 😭 Ragdoll is ah
what about rifles
Gotta love mods letting me do dumb things
time to see if my mods work
Funny how I can make Cop’s intro as the start up
Love that I can have 3 shotguns
guys i would like to find a ron video about a huge mod that overhauls a lot of features. I remember the video is around 40 minutes long and it includes a massive mod that adds a lot of firearms, a lot of outfit options and firearm customization options. I think the guy introduced the mod in the first 10 minutes and started playing for around 30 minutes. I wanted to find it again but idk why it disappeared. Thanks
Probably doesn’t work anymore if it’s pre console version
i remember the video was released a few days ago tho.
Oh I don’t know then I just play pre release and play with the mods I have
oof ok thanks
Woah 3 Letter Triad really is that hard
My officers performed okay and one of them still managed to die
it would be cool if there was a mod that allowed you to play commander mode in multiplayer
Why do people get so mad when you kill civilians 😂 Have some fun god Damm 😭
Go be a police officer irl instead
idk it's like the point of the game is to act like a police officer. Do what you want it's still a game after all but some people might not agree with that playstyle
Honestly true
personally I really dont mind, The most fun I probably ever had in this game was when I joined a modded lobby and some lunatic was spamming HE grenades everywhere xD
it really isnt that deep but again, some people want clean games or care about higher scores so
You do you
If you expect s rank out of a pug you’re the problem. If you want a clean run you need to run premades.
I mean yeah you never really know what you're gonna get when you play with random people so honestly getting mad about someone not playing the way you want when you've just met is kinda stupid
police sim
people get a bit too into simming police
if you wanna play a certain way with randoms it's probably better to communicate that to them first but if someone explicitly said they wish to not kill any civilians and you do so anyway then you're kinda just being a dick
cant blame them for getting annoyed in that case
You’re right
I have an issue with RoN overall that I was wondering if someone could help me? The game keeps crashing for some reason on launch with no mods installed or reshade or nuthin
Uhr, if your PC isn't the strongest it might be due to directx on launch or sum
I have a r5 7600x and a 4070 super with 32gb ddr5 6400
it's not my pc. just to be safe I'm doing a fresh install of the game
You're done for bru, yea, better just reinstall it like ya said
wdym i'm done for
oh type shit 😭
is this an issue exclusive to RON? or does it happen on other games?
chat I just logged back onto RoN to find all my progress gone
by progress gone, is it showing no missions solved?
just RoN
it's still doing this after reinstalling
only works in safe mode
not even directx11/12
oh my fucking god
there was 1 DAMN MOD that I forgot to unsubscribe from on mod.io and it fucked my whole game
LMFAO
fr 💔
shits pmo bro 😭
It's alr officer, sometimes we ready sometimes we not ykwim?
hate when my officers butcher a hostage situation because they had nonlethal
hell nah that map is honestlyquite easy
finally S tiered it today
the hospital entrance was easier for me personally
both are the hospital entrance
one is the parking lot
yea i feel like thats easier
Q1 2026
december (very unlikely) or Q1 2026
MATE FINALLY I DID IT
RELAPSE IS CONQUERED
that MCX was all i needed
see. it isnt that bad huh. good shit
could tell the guy to play .300 jhp
lmao
I was worrying after reading that you seemingly haven't used the PC extensively (since it's "not yours") that it was gonna be instability with running 6400mts on zen 4 or smth like that
Hey, on a whim I decided to boot up Carriers of the Vine, and I just realized—we’re probably just re-traumatizing all these women again. 😭
Yeah, they’re murderous misandrist cultists, but we’re also an all-male authority violently intruding on what they’d come to see as a sanctuary, and I think it’s unlikely they’re gonna get the help they need in prison.
So… Oof, I guess.
Too bad, dont rob a gun store en masse and then threaten to cut me open when I wanna hold you accountable
or kill 2 officers when they come and visit you
I’m just saying. Shit’s rough and I wish we had a better solution.
Yeah i get you
There's a reason they're radicalized that way
But hey in the end they decided to treat the outside world as their enemy and well...the outside world responded
No I just mean, we’re running up against the limit of the good police can do in such a scenario. Yeah, we stopped the threat, but what about afterwards?
Maybe it’s just more striking cause of their unique scenario, but what actually separates the Carriers from something like The Left Behind? We’re doing the right thing by stopping them, but what more can we do? Are we even capable or equipped to do more than what we do?
Yeah I don't imagine the rehabilitation going well
I dunno. I’m feeling oddly existential tonight.
tried using the custom laser on the MK V.. just can't run it reliably.. takes up what feels like 80% of the screen.. am i missing something?
No, that’s just how it is. It’s a big honkin’ laser for a big honkin’ gun. Not that I would know of course, I play on console. ;w;
but like.. when i pull it out i can't see the dot in front of me because the device itself is so juuuuuge
You mean the laser pointer?
if they gave us an option to hold it at a cheeky 30 - 50 degree angle then i could probably make it work
Just be Arnold Schwarzenegger, 5head.
The newer weapons really aren't well angled yeah
Almost pointless to use canted sights with some of them
is there also a way to stop your AI teammates from beelining it towards surrendered suspects.. i was lining up a shot on a guy and one of the morons just walked in front of me to put cuffs on a dead guy, or pick up his secondary weapon, making me point the waepon to the sky.. and then get shot at..
i like that they do that stuff.. because i inevitably miss a piece of evidence somewhere.. but holy hell is there a right time and a right place to do that shiz
You can tell them to Hold, which will stop them in place, but truly, I would be infinitely happy with just a “Get Out of My Way” command.
hey i have a question
the best pistol calibier is the 5x7 mm ( or something like this ) from the five-seven . its working up to medium armor if i remeber right
can u kill a medium or heavy armored guy with a usp (good for no-light armor ) for example (9x19mm)
And the second question
how strong is the helmed armored ?
low-medium or sometime heavy ?
If you have a question about the penetration or damage properties, or even armor properties, then you can visit this sheet which covers most of this information here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1d89lpFDA9lo_v13iBlnhtuA6DvuUnKfPaeo0d4RBGJ4/edit?gid=700315143#gid=700315143
thx
How many total shells does the breach shotgun have?
Not asking about the tube amount, but like overall total shells for the breach shotgun
okay what the hell was that ending ??
FISA just ordered us to trap missing people in a damn container ??
trafficked women
24 total shells
Thx, imma swap to breaching shotgun. Seems to have more benefits over ram
Does anyone know if the next update will have any adjustments to the swat ai? Doing a run on commander mode and they keep just getting schwacked on the first breach in greased palms, had to restart like 10 times and now just given up lol
any of you guys have gotten this dumbass bug where they throw u into a lobby mid game and youre just stuck in the loading screen
No, but I just wanted to say hi to you Sydney, have a good day Sydney
this game just pissed me off LMAOO

whatever the hell this is, why would FISA command us to fucking stand down and NOT help those women
They were helped.
We were just ordered to move on
FISA is deep in this whole illegal ring shit as evidenced by their own field agent helping these illegal traffic rings
have yall found the hurricane relief website easter egg in the station yet?
so FISA aint the evil ones, right...
I suspect that it's just so FISA has the bragging rights to finding the trafficked women
That is up to people to individually determine or guess if they are evil, but their subtitle text being red implies they are evil.
As the red subtitle is only given to suspects
yeah
hmm
okay this is interesting..
do the developers plan to expand the main campaign bychance, cuz im hooked
FISA is not on the right side of history. They have a hand in what happened
The DLC's to an extent collerate with the story, at least when it comes to dates.
ahh
as some missions in the DLC predate the main missions
oh my lord this is actually so interesting
As for the fact if we will actually see more missions in the base game, I am not entirely sure. Maybe yes, maybe not
I think some lower stakes missions would be neat.
I pray this happens, but if it comes down to buying the DLCs I will actually do it
I have both the DLC's since I liked the cosmetics as well as the fact that I usually play with my friends only, so I am the DLC mule in my friend group
Haven't tried multiplayer yet, can't wait to do the following
The game is mainly for people who want to play in the tacsim style. So preferably find a group of likeminded individuals, do some runs, learn some tactics. Or just go rambo style if you really want it that way.
Tactical style for me in all honesty
Man, those Rambo people are either really bad and get annihilated in 3 minutes
Or are some of the most goated players
I had 2 guys successfully do a Rambo inside the main warehouse of greased palms
the hell how
Greased Palms has to be the worst map in the game
maybe like a real shotgun
i think 6 in chamber and 12 if u have 2x ammo
total 18 shots
but i am not shure
Once when i was playing multiplayer mode with randoms i opened settings and closed it. But it made all enemy ai weapons glow even tho we didn't even kill any suspects. Tried it again on next round but couldn't replicate that bug. Do u guy know how to do such glitch?
its not a bug
serch for high light weapons
idk where u can find it
will think in the general visual (no the advanced one )or gameplay settings
I know that is the game feature but guns were glowed even on alive suspects
thats a bug ?
It was helpful to spot them thru the wall
thaught this is normal
yea thats not normal
Usually guns start to glow only after suspects drop it
But that bug made it possible to glow guns which is not been dropped
i tell my mades to serch xd (ki)
I have the ones that whine when they dont get what they want
And the ones who no russian every mission
yessir
Is there any new missions or anything? Like anything good that's new? Like more guns, customization, etc? Haven't played the game in a while so I just want to get up to date.
last update was in summer I think when it released to console
they added a couple new guns and 2 new free missions
real
Yup
The map lawmaker has finally made me hate the ai swat squad thanks to how the suspects take civilians hostages and the ai swat don’t seem to be able to handle that. I’ve tried so many times to beat the map without a civilian dying and I almost did only one suspect left but he came out of nowhere and killed me in one shot.
fuck ts im doing full no russian on vally
??
“Remember, no predator.”
same
hmm, today I will S tier Hide and Seek
@jolly verge just became a proud owner of the hermit achievement ❤️🩹
the hermlit
A pretty funny story i got, i was playing the mission twisted nerve, and i commanded my ai teamates to hold in a room, i left and came back and these dudes were all on the griund dead some npc with a knife came and assasinated all 5 of them.🤣
first time ever i just died to a tripwire trap in an open doorway. like, i didn't open the door, the door was already open. i just walked through an already open doorway, boom, dead
my officers just threw three grenades, shot ME, failed to subdue two suspects, one of them died, then I died (6v1, thanks), and now somehow i teleported back in time (commander mode) but the officer who died is still dead (but i'm not), wtf is even happening
TIL that you can shoot tripwire bomb traps with a high caliber round through the wall and it will blow up🤯
Me watching my AI spray and pray the hostage taker and killing the hostage as well 
Right? Jesus I gave you flashbangs use them
You can WHAT?!
I just had the funny thought of completing 23 Megabytes and Judge taking over Michael’s stream until the other officers arrive. Just doing an AMA about being a SWAT officer and encouraging viewers to stay in school and join the LSPD.
You can shoot the bombs at the ends of the tripwire traps through the walls… so if you want to go in guns blazing just shoot both sides and you don’t even need to check for bombs
Teaching your suspect’s stream-viewers about consent so they can avoid being exploited by popular influencers like him.
“Remember kids, you have control over your own body. Don’t let, people like this guy—“ Judge holds up an unconscious Michael for the camera, unceremoniously dropping him back to the floor, “—tell you what to do or how you should feel.”
That’s crazy, I’m gonna have to try that sometime! How far out or how high should I aim? I’m assuming it’s just like, right beside the doorframe?
why do you talk like chatgpt
Is it just me or is Mirage at sea easier to S rank than lethal clear. I was trying to lethal it on hard bur I couldn't, so I lowkey just equiped the 6 shot flash GL, gave my team beanbags, and just thunked every suspect. Then dropped instantly and it only took me like 3 tries to S rank. Compared to the 10 tries to thy to lethal clear. Did I just get lucky???
The active shooter mode is sometimes really funny like once he spots you he runs away and you follow him leading to a long line of bodies like bro is shooting like a crazy madman
hard mode is giving me trauma
Fr
not because of its difficulty, but because half of it didnt register for the achievement
Dang
wallahi billahi im not finding the missions i gotta do on hard mode
Bruh
Like you completed it but it didn't register as cleared on hard?
its all done on hard mode 💀
Anyone wanna play ron?
it registered as cleared on hard in game but not for steam
its fine, at least this game is fun
Uu I see. But I don't know if I can halp you with this cause I play on xbox (and thus don't know how to teoubleshoot that)
Although you can idk ask in reddit or sum
no troubleshooting just gotta play through again
It's 2 AM and I just crashed out trying to lethal clear Relapse. So not really 🥀💔
Bro nuthing works. I have to have a teammate with veteran, armorer, nutritionist and some other good skill like negociator, pacifier or smth else. And they just eat everything, 7.62x51 aswell, takes like 2-3 shots while other missions like 1-2
Ikk
Plus they're like deer bro, one turn, footstep or door open and they snap to your location and see yuh
Ragebait mission
Also the levels a nightmare for that one part where quadama spawns
I could've had C+ rank on Relapse standard difficulty if team didn't FSB Alpha group one of the civcies getting held by Quadamah
Although funnily enough Quadamah survived the spray or bullets
Now I got a D
Ah yeah, Relapse
Actually loosing my nerves on it
Making me commit crime against humanity
what is your favorite entry tattic?
I just learned about a new one called running the rabbit and personally I think it’s kind of weak
basically one person enters the room and the other person crosses behind him and then put the gun up the reason why I think that’s a bad tattic is you lose a gun for a few seconds
And so the other guy is just there with one gun
Loud. C2 then flash and stinger + launcher
In neon tomb main dance lobby
in order to get S on valley of the dolls do you need to do it on hardest difficulty?
Kill all them pdfs
how do I quick peek
you gotta go very slow, i was stuck on Relapse for 3 damn days
Spent almost 3-4 hours on one mission
Finally got the I'm too old for this achievement. I need therapy after that
are you mentally okay bro
doing all that on hard difficulty seems pure hell
just WOW
ay on a side note, you know how to quick peek on PC ?
I think it was bound to something else, but I rebinded it. Could be wrong tho idr
anyways thank you so much
np
Apparently breaching shells for shotguns are made of ceramic this is so they shatter when they shoot the lock and don’t penetrate the door
k.
So do devs ever give updates on the progress of updates or do I get to sit and spin
no progresses
they sort of used to but the game is delivered now so a bit less talkative
From that youtube short!!!
Well, the best way for entry is to always, and always pie the door first, entry points vary
But my favorite one is to run the rabbit when it's 2 man and simply alt lean to engage the suspect
That's not how running the rabbit is done. You're describing pushing the threat/attacking the corner. RTR is typically used in corner-fed rooms. The first man is the one who moves fast laterally across the doorway and down the wall, drawing attention or fire from any bad guys inside the deep hard corner of the room. The second man follows immediately after and pushes toward the threat down the opposite wall. Both guns are in the fight very quickly. It's a good tactic.
They di
do
And they did, they announced some weapon costumization which will arrive with the next DLC somewhere in Q1 2026
Q1 OF 2026??! 
Ya goah bey kiing me
Actually no
RoN has this problem that sometimes : you NEED agressive actions and reactivity
Plus that : the hospital has LOT'S of opennings, with large corridors, and quick succession of rooms.
Which means you're team needs to be as reactive as you are, and you have it : they just sometimes stands mike flower pot on opennings without even taking shots
I used to know that some shells are just a some sort of birdshot encassed in paraffin, which makes a very friable slug
Ahhhh
man I forgot how lethargic the 308 rifles are when you're picking up evidence/swapping weapons/equipping tacticals
it takes so long for your character to put away your weapon and pull it back up
I'm going back to using smaller calibers/more compact weapons
i hated every second of that
I'm pretty sure its not a mechanic, rather a bug
If you're using the socom then that has a bug where the animation lasts a lot longer than it should, there's a few weapons with this issue
if you take the sa-58 for example this shouldn't be an issue
MK17, M14S-16, MP5SD6, FN509, MK-V and M590M have holster delay issue
its happening for me on both the ga51 and m14
also I don't notice anything significant with the 509
It's almost a sec delay before you fully put 509 away
also how long has this even persisted for
I thought it was just a feature
Since they add them
bruh?????
the Devs just forgot to patch their game
Mr peener
the amount of generative AI this game uses is so fucked up
Wait wha ?
Oh, and I forgot the hitreg too
(Opponent's one, not yours)
7,62 NATO loses its magic on hard difficulty
what made the bigger cartridge special was that you didn't need a follow up shot if you aimed right. but now, whether JHP or AP, soft target or armored target, the 7,62 NATO does not drop the suspect on a single hit to the torso anymore.
might as well use medium cartridges with less recoil, more capacity and still able to put down the target within 2 - 3 hits.
(I've posted this as a steam discussion as well btw)
Damn, so hard mode is like : going with the M32A1 and a .50cal ?
new update when
just go with any assault rifle, not one of these boomsticks that break your shoulder for no gain
As long as it doesn't need an S rank to complete
can you un-nerdify this for me
lmao I didn't think this woudl come off as nerdy since the game tells you what caliber the weapons use
anyway, what I mean is the big guns like the G3, GA51, M14 and Scar H etc. shoot bigger bullets but the extra damage is minimal
for 'hard' difficulty
better off shooting smaller bullets with way less recoil
....and again i'm saying the bigger guns aren't worth the extra damage because of the much higher recoil
unless medium difficulty, thats where the big guns just kill everything without problems
Please explain
is there any use of the Vertical Grip when the combat and angled exist?
there's literally only like 6 relevent calibers in the game too 🙏
5.56
300blk/7.62x39 (performs near same)
7.62x51
9mm
10mm/45 (performs near same)
5.7/4.6 (performs near same)
combat and angled don't reduced vertical recoil
do they only decrease horizontal?
combat grip is technically the arbitrary one as "increased accuracy" doesnt actually change anything about any of the SMGs/riflesz so it means it's essentially the same as angled grip without the benifits of faster ADS
yes as the game tells you
oh damn I only read the reduced recoil didn't even see that it says whether it's vertical or horizontal
it specifies horizontal and vertical
do the grips even make a noticeable difference?
I kinda hate running the vertical grip though because your character holds the grip like a tool
yes
the angled grip's horizontal recoil reduction definately isn't significant for ARs though because ARs don't really get much horizontal recoil though
for SMGs it can be useful
5.56 and .300BLK is really all you need
my point was how the 7,62x51mm is ass unless you're standard diff
I dont touch 9mm unless it's paired with JHP against soft targets