👮ron-discussion

[rotund cypress]

Actually wait if the mawl gets a visible laser too won’t that be green?

[mighty bramble]

why are NPCs just brushing off buckshot rounds point blank

[unborn echo]

likely armored

[bold sky]

shotguns have been very iffy after dlc 2 so most likely your shots are not grouping up properly as you wish

i am also assuming you ask that knowing whatever you are shooting at is not wearing armor

[mighty bramble]

i do. they arent armored

but im literally gun butting distance

[wraith gale]

your pellets arent man enough

[jolly verge]

What mission?

[mighty bramble]

twisted nerve

[jolly verge]

You on console or pc with controller?

[mighty bramble]

pc

[jolly verge]

If not you missing you shots or not all pellets hit the target

[mighty bramble]

kbm

[mighty bramble]

im point blank bro 😭

[unborn echo]

maybe you flicked too fast and missed

[jolly verge]

Aim better

you need 4 of 8 pellets to incap suspect

[mighty bramble]

mirrored, opened door, flash, breached, ran up to bro and butted him he went to shoot and i shot him in the chest and he brushed it off

i promise aim was not an issue

[wraith gale]

^

try JHP shells

[unborn echo]

jhp 12 gauge buckshot

[jolly verge]

Then suspect would be down already

[mighty bramble]

suspect is in god mode

[unborn echo]

did suspect even stagger?

like soft stunned

[jolly verge]

It's 30% to stagger per pellet hit

[mighty bramble]

yeah

[unborn echo]

then how did that happen, surely he must have been armored

[mighty bramble]

twisted nerve doesnt have armored suspects

[jolly verge]

Hits only 1-3 pellets instead of 4

[mighty bramble]

dude doesnt know what point blank means

even if you end up missing your pellets point blank you're gonna blow off their arm or something

[unborn echo]

point blank is just a range measurement, were your crosshair in the middle of the suspect body?

or arm, or head, whatever you shot em at

[mighty bramble]

yeah i butted him before i shot him, i wanted to arrest

[unborn echo]

with ads? i mean, you can never be too sure, or maybe its just bugged like dat

[mighty bramble]

yeah, it was definitely a bug but it happened twice

[jolly verge]

That will happen only if you shot at the limbs or head, in your case you simply missed most of pellets

[unborn echo]

weird

[mighty bramble]

the limbs arent big enough for you to hit all your pellets at anything more than point blank

[jolly verge]

You have a 25% chance to insta kill on limbs/head hits with buckshot ammo, not to mention you can reliably hit your target with buckshot on +100m in this game

[bold sky]

there might be skill issue but the spread on shotguns can be wonky sometimes

if you are point blank also should not ads and just canted sight

point firing w shotgun is generally strong unless you are literally trying to snipe w shotgun on hokan

[mighty bramble]

yea exactly so a point blank shot with no armor should blow them to pieces

[jolly verge]

That require 4 pellets hits, not 1-3 tho

[mighty bramble]

if i shoot at the chest and hit 1-3 then the others are going to hit another part of the body, your logic doesnt make sense

[bold sky]

you are also assuming your shots actually land

[mighty bramble]

where else would they go if im kissing distance from the guy

[bold sky]

did you do anything like turning on ads while shooting or did you not aim at all

[mighty bramble]

ads

[unborn echo]

could be just a weird bug

[bold sky]

is your aim up by the time you shoot or did you quick ads then fire

[mighty bramble]

^ ads when i breached the room

[unborn echo]

but he did stagger right? that means the shot registered?

[mighty bramble]

yeah

[jolly verge]

No they dont, because you simply shot at the corner of hitbox, simpe as that, you shooting buckshot, not slugs

[unborn echo]

[winter tusk]

for me it seems like body shot has a higher chance of incap. everytime i go for the limbs they die

[mighty bramble]

Corner of the chest hitbox is bordering the hitbox of the limbs, either way the pellet is going to hit

[jolly verge]

Depends

[mighty bramble]

on what

[bold sky]

you know do you have mods installed btw

it would be hilarious if all this argument goes on then it turns out you install something that give suspects armor

[unborn echo]

if all 8 pellets hitting them they're dying nontheless unless armored

[bold sky]

are there white smoke coming from your target hits too lol

i know twisted nerve suspects unmodded dont have armor but at this point who knows anymore

[mighty bramble]

i dont

[unborn echo]

[mighty bramble]

its more than likely a bug

[unborn echo]

maybe his game just decided to bug out at that moment

[bold sky]

so no mods at all or some mods but you arent sure what the mods are doing

[mighty bramble]

customization mods

[unborn echo]

if you have the time try playing that map again to see if it happens often

[bold sky]

i hope customization mods dont do anything but you also never know but i guess lets operate under the assumption its not a crappy mod that also modifies something

[jolly verge]

Bad shot placement is not a game bug

[mighty bramble]

i just finished it, but the first time it happened with 2 people and the second time it did it with one guy

[unborn echo]

but he said he was aiming center mass

[mighty bramble]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1174881190055006224/1228103207847198720/ezgif.com-gif-maker-3.gif

[bold sky]

im also assuming that this is not a big skill issue then the last one is just lag if playing mp

[mighty bramble]

you cant survive a point blank shot to the chest no matter the circumstances

[bold sky]

the ai might have moved to somewhere else than what is actually on screen

do you have a replay too

[unborn echo]

thats impossible if you're playing solo

[jolly verge]

That does not proof anything tho, if he would properly shot at the center suspect would be down and you need only 4 of 8 pellets to do it on standart

[bold sky]

replays are great for this kind of business bc you prolly dont even need to ask people here if you watch replay

[mighty bramble]

i would've sent it a while ago trust me

[unborn echo]

if you were MOVING and shooting at the same time your gun also wobbles around a lot

[bold sky]

i have to say too since we are talking point blank and he is raw adsing not canted point fire

theres a good chance the shot whiffed

[unborn echo]

this game has so many small bugs atp idek if its supposed to be a bug or skill issue

me personally i have never ran into the same problem

[mighty bramble]

gun butt, stood still waiting for him to surrender while ads, raised his barrel so i dumped into his chest

then he wipes it off and mag dumps

[bold sky]

did you yell at him

[mighty bramble]

no i whispered

[bold sky]

??????? sure

[jolly verge]

There is no hitreg bugs tho, unless you on console with bugged aim assist

[bold sky]

its not a meme if you are unmodded yelling your hands move

[mighty bramble]

i yelled

[bold sky]

it moves so much you would think your guy is beating himself off

[mighty bramble]

i stopped yelling when it wasnt working

[bold sky]

well there might be your explanation, yelling moves your arms a lot without mods

[unborn echo]

thats what im saying

[bold sky]

yelling and adsing is a great combination to whiff shots when unmodded

canted/point fire is vastly superior in vanila bc of that

[mighty bramble]

im sorry but the optic im using his chest is like 10x the diameter

[bold sky]

you are virtually immune to the visual recoil

do you remember where you run into the guy too

is it the skybridge between the two building

[mighty bramble]

meth lab

[bold sky]

tight enough tbh

going into speculation realm here but i know sometimes kneeling suspects hitbox are wonky especially if they are doing their standup animation

[mighty bramble]

#🎨ron-screenshots-and-art message

[bold sky]

so you might be shooting into what the game believe is the area between his crotches if he was standing up maybe

[mighty bramble]

example of how close. and the optic and diameter of a persons chest

[unborn echo]

did you yell then shoot?

[mighty bramble]

yes

[unborn echo]

i mean that could have been the problem? yelling animation make your gun tilt down

[mighty bramble]

shooting while yelling defeats the purpose its not going to register until the action is done

[bold sky]

buddy been trying to explain that but im also assuming you understand what we said earlier that yelling moves your arms r

[unborn echo]

no i meant simultaniously

[mighty bramble]

no

[bold sky]

so im assuming you did at least let the aim recenter before shooting after you yell

[mighty bramble]

yes i have a brain gentlemen

[unborn echo]

hard or standard

[bold sky]

if you did that, assuming no skill issue, then the last one is animation change might lead to hitbox changing faster than what the animation suggest

[mighty bramble]

hard

[unborn echo]

well maybe by a stupid string of fate that led you to miss SOME of your pellets? and added onto the fact that hard mode enemies have slightly increased hp which finally leading to whatever happened earlier?

tho i find it impossible to miss any pellets at all in that range

[jolly verge]

Hard suspects require only 1 more pellet hit for incap

[onyx swift]

I don’t even think the visual recoil from yelling would matter much either

I’ve yelled during uncanted ADS right before/during shooting, from way farther away and still hit the target fine

At that range, you’d have to be looking REALLY far up or down to miss

[mighty bramble]

is what im saying

[bold sky]

i kinda wanna just say play canted aim

and dont torture yourself playing ads

[onyx swift]

“torture” lol

both work fine

[bold sky]

ads unmodded sucks hard

works fine if you dont mind it too much i guess

[onyx swift]

Dot + Canted is definitely a pleasure to use though, I’ll admit

[jolly verge]

People spamming shots with the pistols at point blank and asking why suspect did not die, with a video of him shooting up and down

[onyx swift]

But base ADS with certain scopes never hurts, especially if firing down a long sightline in general

[bold sky]

canted only challenge is knowing sometimes your shots will be slightly off bc of the laser but adjusting for that and you have great visibility with significantly less camera recoil

i play canted on hokan sniping across the map fine

some people argue that running the meta low recoil guns in the game make ads fine too and sure but if you play canted you can run dm4 with no barrel, have literally the shortest rifle in the game w the best caliber in the game

[onyx swift]

I cant the most with Shotguns, or if my gun has a Dot attachment on it

[bold sky]

if you put that on semi then dm4 w canted sight is just a beast in every sense possible, can just take ap .300 for maps w highest tier armor suspects too

[onyx swift]

or if it’s a tight enclosed area

[bold sky]

i give up on shotguns recently tbh, used to feel better before dlc 2 after they implement that weird weight or inertia thing for guns

[mighty bramble]

pistols fire 1 bullet, shotgun fires 8 pellets

[onyx swift]

idk what guns are meta ngl

[bold sky]

after that smg and shotgun kinda just suck

[onyx swift]

Beanbag and Flashbang Launchers are my bias, Non-Lethal/LTL gang

[bold sky]

if you just want lowest recoil w ap ammo that can pen all suspects armor then f90 g36 and mcx do fine

less lethal gameplay is just a puzzle game you bring whatever fits the mission

but if you dont want to aim properly bringing nade launcher solves it

you just end up without a direct range option if you ever need it since you can still bring nade along w beanbag

[unborn echo]

arn-180 is pretty meta to me same recoil as the mcx if not less, best caliber in the game if you cant oneshot down suspects, and 750 firerate

on maps that allow you to oneshot down then any 7.62x51 rifle is ideal, preferably ga51 if you like low recoil, and short barrel

[onyx swift]

good to know for another time

[unborn echo]

for lethal run of course, non-lethal if you use anything other than m32 you're either doing a challenge or trolling

[bold sky]

arn180 has a recoil pattern some people seem to think is worse than mcx but mcx has a second shot jump so i wouldnt say mcx is better but some would argue

mcx used to have .300 too until the cringe people scream loud enough that its more commonly chambered in 556

i think arn180 best gun in the game easily too

can mount elcan for free recoil reduction w canted, lowest recoil of .300, gets to fire .300 jhp

[unborn echo]

mcx doesnt have THAT much recoil when shot in full auto, but on single shots it jumps a bit

[bold sky]

yeah its bc of the second shot mostly

if you semi fire it fast enough things stabilized out pretty quick too

just go to the range and spray and you'll see the second shot always jump up a bit more compared to g36 or f90

but its not horrible in terms of camera recoil so not a bad gun, i run it over f90

7.62 nato loses like all of its plus on hard mode so big boo

[unborn echo]

ngl if we're talking about short burst f90 actually feel alot less iffy and jumpy compared to the g36

g36 has generally the lowest recoil, but the f90 almost doesnt move at all on 2 shot burst

[bold sky]

i play on canted so my perception of things are vastly different to ads ngl

on canted g36 is kinda bad

canted firing also enjoys slapping elcan on for free recoil reduction so g36 suffers from that too

f90 when firing canted have this weird horizontal recoil shake

[unborn echo]

yeah but the whole left side of your screen is gonna be blocked

[bold sky]

its circumventable

plus you know how the human eyes are usually more customed to looking from left to right generally bc most people are brought up to read from left to right

having the left side blocked ends up being a good thing for many people bc looking from sides you are accustomed to make you skip on things more

looking from right to left when you are used to the opposite makes your brain works a bit more

canted sight kinda have that benefit, it incentivize you to sweep right to left

plus the visibility being blocked on the left versus everything is tunneled when you ads accompanied by camera kick just make point firing simpler to manage

[jolly verge]

They both have the same recoil stats and kick, the only difference between them is name, attachments and caliber yea

[unborn echo]

ap and jhp have the same recoil btw

[bold sky]

i never claim ap and jhp have different recoil

,300 jhp is just objectively op since it pens l3 and does good damage

idk about arn180 and mcx recoil at this point, last we talked about horizontal recoil it ends up at the end that there is horizontal recoil

wont be surprised if there is something that differes arn 180 and mcx

arn 180 spray pattern down range dont match mcx fully

[jolly verge]

"Technically", it's does not called horizontal in game

[jolly verge]

They are both identical

It's literally two same rifle but with different name and caliber

[bold sky]

the game just call it accuracy which is incorrect as hell

its just horizontal recoil

[jolly verge]

No it's not accuracy

[bold sky]

look at combat grip description

[jolly verge]

ok give me a second

[jolly verge]

Even if you set horizontal and spread multipliers at 10.7 as example, which is 1070% more horizontal recoil and spread, it's will do nothing on any gun in game

Horizontal multiplier affects only few smgs (mp5/10, mp5a3, mp7, spc9 and ump45)

[bold sky]

im quite sure the game thinks of accuracy more as horizontal recoil than spread

considering how when they go into the game the description is summarize as accuracy

also butchering the files it makes sense that rifles dont have spread but why firstshotspread

i do agree spread is the correct way to describe actual accuracy

but since the game is not cleared on horizontal recoil and spread might as well not use the term accuracy in this game i guess

[jolly verge]

Basically
Accuracy - spread (Buckshot ammo only)
Horizontal recoil - camera movement to the left/right (Can be reduced by attachments)
Angle recoil - gun barrel movement to the left/right (Can't be reduced by attachments, only by ADSing or increased by having arm injury)

[jolly verge]

It's wont even apply because ammo have it on 0 anyway

[unborn echo]

i hope they make changes to asr muzzle brake cuz rn its kinda pointless to use

[bold sky]

i wonder if sfmb reduces muzzle flash now too

if it actually does what it say then use asr for muzzle flash i guess lol

[jolly verge]

ASR does not reduce muzzle flash, only SFMB

[worn dirge]

Why is it not possible to use a civilian as riot shield when not having riot shield equipped?

[void jasper]

🤦‍♂️

[cold mica]

bro anyone else cant link epic?
it says enter email i do that and then it says the one u created with... ive put that in 😭

[void jasper]

I didn’t need to put an email in,
I linked epic to my ps5 and it uses the same gamertag

[cold mica]

i press epic link then it just asks for email

i put correct one in and still nothing...

[void jasper]

Check email real quick

Might be sending some authentication stuff

[cold mica]

nah nothing is there

[void jasper]

You on ps?

Or Xbox?

[cold mica]

pc

[void jasper]

Maybe epic is down

[cold mica]

perhaps

i can log in fine normally though just cant link

[void jasper]

Plan b
Make a new email account quickly and log in with it

[cold mica]

ive tried 2 now

[void jasper]

lol

[cold mica]

something wrong with their website it must be

ill emal support

[void jasper]

Probly

Epic had a problem a few weeks ago when AWS went down

Maybe someone tripped over a cord

[spiral pawn]

Have the fix the game at all? Before the update everything worked fine but now it crashed all the time and the bullets fly everywhere.

[umbral birch]

Does anyone like the ready or not music in general when it’s playing ingame or is that just me

It’s really smooth

Cause holy shit, whos the music producer? This shit is deep

[covert aurora]

I enjoy the music

[covert aurora]

Music is made by @dire anvil this amazomg man! 🙂

[umbral birch]

W props to him

That’s what makes the game amazing

[storm belfry]

Props to that man, gave me incredible headaches and migraines after Neon Tomb

[solemn patio]

Lowk I think the revolver should be faster to fire, (source: I shot a .357 mag revolver and I could shoot faster than virgin babyhands judge)

[crude prism]

true

[solemn patio]

I also want a .38 special ammo option lowkey

[solemn patio]

Three letter triad is so weird

If the suspect ai wasnt fucking stupid and their armor restricted movement maybe I wouldn’t be pissed but

[low tulip]

That mission is wild

Super tough but fun

[solemn patio]

They need to reduce armored suspect movement speed

If I walk like a turtle when I use armor so should they

It feels like elephant all fuckin over agajn

[low tulip]

You actually make a good point.

[solemn patio]

Imagine ready or not with titan fall movement

[low tulip]

I feel like some of them move pretty quick.

[solemn patio]

Or like modern day cod movement with slide canceling and dolphin diving

[low tulip]

No thanks

[solemn patio]

And omnimovement that allows you to skate

Itd be funny as hell as a mod

[low tulip]

You need to go play a different game. RoN isn't for you man

Oh I got you

[solemn patio]

Did you think I was serious dumbass

Also 300 blk needs an ap nerf, and 556 an ap buff

The MP7 penetrates armor better than a 556 rifle bro

[low tulip]

No nurfs are needed in this game other than the enemy health

Sounds to me like you play this game on easy

[solemn patio]

Used to, I do that for every game im new to, i play standard now

I accidentally played on hard and couldnt tell the difference because one level pissed me off so bad

[low tulip]

I've mag dumped enemies with no armor and they don

t even flinch

I find guns/ammo to non effective now that they've increased the ttk

[solemn patio]

Suspect flinch and legs insta crippling them needs to be added

[low tulip]

That would be nice

[solemn patio]

I want to be able to pop some assholes knees and he have to use a pistol on me

Maybe you can shoot hands to make them drop their shit?

You genuinely thinking I wanted bo6 movement and slide canceling had me kinda laugh lol

You were horrified man

[jolly verge]

@umbral birch Not a bug, you did not get at least C grade, used lockpick or your swat ai have shields in their loadout or something

[solemn patio]

How much armor do suspects in three letter triad have?

[jolly verge]

Level 1, 2 and 3A, some without armor at all

[umbral birch]

BRO WHAT I got an A

lock pick isnt a weapon

[jolly verge]

You can't use lockpick

Not to mention any other tactical device

Except NVG and shield on your back

[low tulip]

Do the shield block bullet when it's on your back?

[jolly verge]

Yeap

[low tulip]

Awesome

Anyone ever use the map planner?

[solemn patio]

What if your legs are broken

Isnt this for the revolver only thing

[jolly verge]

Shoot the door down or let swat ai breach it

they can use anything but shields

[solemn patio]

So back to triple let triad, what gun should i run gang

I like guns w/ RANGE

[jolly verge]

There is no extra health, unless you on hard mode, so 7.62x51 with JHP ammo

or .300blk, 7.62x39

[solemn patio]

The higher armor guys fuck me when I use 300 blackout

[jolly verge]

Level 3 is the highest armor on this mission, JHP still pens it

Just dont use 5.56

[solemn patio]

Why is 5.56 done so dirty in ts dawg

[jolly verge]

5.56 JHP can't pen level 3 armor, so you have to use AP on half of missions with much lower limbs damage and less stagger chance on flesh hits

[solemn patio]

Why does the MP7 penetrate better than 556 in ap.

[jolly verge]

It's does not

[solemn patio]

Yes it does bro, I checked

4.6x30 AP is heavy armor penetrating, check.

Ingame anywho

[jolly verge]

4.6x30 AP pens only level 3 armor

any rifle AP ammo pens level 4

[solemn patio]

“Servicable effectiveness against heavy armor”

556 ap says “Good effectiveness against medium armor”

[low tulip]

I agree with you. I think the MP7 just has better recoil control so more bullets hit your mark cutting them down faster. A lot of shots from a 556 will miss due to recoil taking longer to eliminate targets.

[solemn patio]

Vro I looked that is what it said 😭😭

[jolly verge]

in-game descriptions are useless

[unborn echo]

maybe just dont shoot in full auto

[low tulip]

Yes that too

[jolly verge]

Don't use GA416, any other 5.56 gun has zero recoil anyway

[unborn echo]

why does hk416 have so much recoil

[jolly verge]

Why not

[solemn patio]

Because the devs hate making guns make sense

[solemn patio]

Bro I just got instakilled by some jackass doing a fucking runby shootinf

[solemn patio]

Civillian count on some missions is unreasonable off topic

Why the fuck are there civs in three letter triad

[forest garnet]

I was just about to S tier greased palms and i died to the very last enemy🫩

Luckily its only taken me about 10 attempts because the ai teammates are nuts but it still hurts

[odd pond]

Hi

[cedar mulch]

Gray Zone and RON: Which AI is more powerful?

[onyx swift]

I was doing so good for Elephant on S for Hard, solo with AI just now

And then a Hostage dies to one of the very last Suspects

man

[bold sky]

you cant compare gz ai and this game ai lol they are made for 2 different things

id argue this game ai is better tho if we talking strictly combat

but it can also be bc the maps here are infinitely smaller, and setting waypoints in ron is much easier

[onyx swift]

I just got a bug where I never stopped healing (while bleeding from a shot)???

I was stuck with my screen turning red and the heavy breathing, etc but already had the healing text gone + finished past the animation

I never pulled my gun or anything else back out either, I could only move and do nothing else until another Suspect killed me a little later

[tacit gull]

glad to see that still happens

[onyx swift]

I don’t remember ever having this happen before I’m so unlucky rn

[torpid onyx]

(still the best 5.56 rifle though)

[unborn echo]

hell nah

literally not the best at anything

[torpid onyx]

best looking*

[lost inlet]

best at disappointing you.

[torpid onyx]

and the best at calling out a skill issue

[quasi coral]

The Hk416 has more moving parts than the M4 platform, in turn the vertical bounces up a lot more

[unborn echo]

truth nuke

[quasi coral]

But it has a higher RPM, though it's prefarable to use semi for most

[unborn echo]

the fastest rifle's RPM in the game is 750, and most of them are

[quasi coral]

Damn, guess it doesn't stick too close to it's roots

[turbid monolith]

I like the HK416, but I somehow find myself picking the LVAR over it

[proven dagger]

anybody else have a bug with the ranger green lspd rolled shirt

[unborn echo]

what bug

[proven dagger]

for me the model in just sticks out

I have a picture

[valid raven]

in my opinion, the most versatile less lethal are probably flash bangs

Good general purpose

Also, am I the only one that has never run into the issue of the barrel being too long do a lot of players like try to get like super close to the wall because you don’t need to be right on top of the wall for it to be an effective piece of cover. You just need to put yourself in a position where the sight line of the shooter is blocked.

I also like the team rating thing

[plush leaf]

It’s just dogshit both in game and irl

No wonder why everyone is switching to other AR-15s and MCXs

[valid raven]

Question regarding that do you lose points if a suspect is leveling the barrel at you even if they’re not actively firing

Because I always went with the concept of intent to kill

like if they display a active willingness to take a life one thing that doesn’t make sense is on the planning menu why is suppressive fire a thing because that feels like it has a high risk of collateral damage

Why do people in this game handcuff dead bodies?

[marsh lark]

You will lose points if you shoot an unaware suspect or when they are in hesitation state

[topaz solstice]

Some suspects fake being dead so it best to handcuff just to be safe

[turbid monolith]

Be as violent as possible and you’ll never have to deal with surrendering enemies

[valid raven]

do I have to announce myself and order them to surrender if they are hesitant?

[marsh lark]

Yes.

Just order them to surrender

[valid raven]

I’m just asking like after that if they aim they’re done at me without firing does that count as unauthorized force?

[marsh lark]

They will most likely do so

[unborn echo]

med

[valid raven]

I would assume it doesn’t

[marsh lark]

They may point their gun towards you but not directly at you if they are hesitant

[valid raven]

if they surrender, I believe it’s based on a randomly generated morale stat

[marsh lark]

There is a random generation for morale, yes

[valid raven]

I’m guessing that’s kept intentionally hidden from the player

[marsh lark]

Not at all

[topaz solstice]

But they can also fake surrender l

[marsh lark]

There is a sheet

[valid raven]

no, I meant like the morale stat of that specific subject is random

I also like how the suspects start in random locations and move around so you can raidthe same map multiple times and it doesn’t feel super repetitive

It just feels like it’s a different raid on the same property

[topaz solstice]

The same goes with traps

[valid raven]

A lot of the traps seem pretty simple

Just like a tripwire mine

Probably with a frag grenade with the string tied to the pin

By the way as long as you hold the spoon it will not arm the pin just frees the spoon so you can remove it it has two layers of safety i have seen one game where a nade had two pins

[runic prism]

guys, is there a way to use the free look on console? i can't find it

[simple dirge]

Yes there is, and I started using yesterday now that I almost completed all the missions...only 2 maps left 🥲 .
I am wondering how to bind the correct keyboard key to make it really functional, now I just configured "Left Shift" press-and-hold to Free Look...is a gorgeous aesthetic add to the experience but again, still have to figure out how to properly utilize it (for example entering a room ...too much keys...If only I had some free buttons on the mouse...)

[runic prism]

But I use the controller

[simple dirge]

So very likely there's a way to make it work more fluently?

[onyx swift]

Press the Thumbsticks

Lean Left = Left Stick

Lean Right = Right Stick

Free Lean = Both Sticks at the same time

[prime spear]

Damn, just like every FPS game.

[onyx swift]

well for the ones that have it

Luckily, "Interact" isn't the Left Stick for RoN
And "Melee" (Bash) isn't the Right Stick

those are often the Binds used if an FPS doesn't have Leaning

[wide spade]

just got the game recently can I play it solo ?

[solemn patio]

Hrmm

Lowk scar L looks weird without a suppressor man

[lost inlet]

yes you can.

[solemn patio]

Lowkey I need a weapon cleaning minigame

And optic rezeroing

Imagine RoN with titanfall 2 movement

(And the suspects have it too)

Itd be funny as hell

[wide spade]

is it harder as solo or its just fine?

[lost inlet]

by solo i'm assuming going into missions by yourself then yeah, it's much harder then doing with teammates.

[wide spade]

gotchu thx

[solemn patio]

Glock 20 when

[pseudo sierra]

no

[solemn patio]

Yes.

10mm forever

[pseudo sierra]

nope

[torpid onyx]

I love on carriers when the ai has perfect accuracy thru thick plants/leaves and I can't see shit and they ignore a flash and aparently because like a single leaf was in the way which blocks LOS

and as well either my bullets couldn't penetrate the leaves or they just tanked like 15 rounds of 5.56

also love how the enemy has 0 reaction to getting shot

[torpid onyx]

the Devs need to add a Glock 20 and fn510

and more 45s

the only 45s currently is the USP and 1911 (and the 1911 is useless because it only holds 7 rounds)

[surreal pelican]

How were your no AI solo experiences?

I just finished LS Stories Hard S and I decided to try pure solo standard just to die lol

[solemn patio]

Real

[solemn patio]

The 1911 aint useless you’re useless /j

[lilac belfry]

When is the new update dropping?

[torpid onyx]

a time

[solemn patio]

A happy time

I fucking hate being shot through stairs

[wraith gale]

Q1 2026

[fervent gale]

Does anyone know why the Equipment keybinds which I temporarily cleared keep reseting after every restart?

[solemn patio]

SOMEONE WAS TAKING A PISS WHAT

BRO I SAW THE STREAM AS HE FACED ME

HE WAS PISSING AT ME.

[brave lance]

Welcome to Los Suenos

[tacit gull]

That just sounds like early access minus you having the movement

[solemn patio]

I wanna be able to cross streams with the suspects (joking)

[noble pasture]

How can I make the swat AI survive on Hard?

[torpid onyx]

you dont

there's no real way to actually proactively avoid your team dying unless you just outright don't take them

it's too easy to have an a swat AI end up an a fight and lose the RNG because hard enemies are way more competent then your swat team

[noble pasture]

I think only mission that requires you to not kill the hvt is Postal no?

[torpid onyx]

unrelated to your first question but no any map with an HVT is passable regardless of if you kill them or not

HVTs are optional objectives
your only main objectives are bringing order to chaos, rescuing all civillians, disarming any bombs present and grabbing evidence which is required for the lore of why youre going to each mission

[uncut widget]

Don’t forget about bringing order to chaos

[noble pasture]

Was that patched recently?

I remember Postal hvt being mandatory to capture

[jolly verge]

Never was a thing, the only mission that require HVT alive to unlock the next one is Mirage at Sea

[void jasper]

Doesn’t that map ends of the earth require the players to arrest the sick woman ? I’ve never tested this cause I don’t wanna shoot an ol lady ingame

[jolly verge]

Nope

You pass every mission with every possible objective being failed and F grade expect the mirage at sea

[void jasper]

Sounds like my college days
(Rimshot drums)

[solemn patio]

I didnt know civs could take a piss, check #🎬ron-clips-and-media for proof but they can 😭😭

[noble pasture]

Isn't there a civilian guaranteed to take a piss outside on the Spider?

[dapper talon]

Does anyone have any tips on completing the two long range shots on the oil rig map?

[jolly verge]

Spawn on helipad till you see 2 suspects on the left, right side

[stone bay]

Hi, i just wanna ask is there any possible way there i can buy supporter edition that has been removed from steam? Maybe someday it will able again?

[jolly verge]

Nope

[dapper talon]

Alright thank you

[marsh lark]

As Aspid said, no. It was available only before Ready or Not's full release.

It is never coming back

[glossy mica]

Anyone have tips for The Post Place map I am getting so close to completing every time but random suspects just pop out of no where

[fervent vault]

postal service? thats the only mission i dont have on A rank you realy need a good team with that mission

[wraith gale]

check every corner

[stone bay]

and i cannot even get a skins from that bundle in any way? I mean i like this game so much i can pay for this right now just cause i can finilly

[wraith gale]

nope. it was a one time purchase

you can probably find mods of similar outfits, but you cant find mods of those outfits.

[stone bay]

well... thats sad, i cant do nothing here i suppose

idk maybe i need to pray or something like, what should i do for this event

[wraith gale]

just get a mod of a rip off HRT outfit

[stone bay]

but i want this official on steam acc + role in discord

[marsh lark]

Well, it is never coming back.

[stone bay]

[latent crescent]

m45, ump45...

also how dare u invalidate the 1911, best pistol

[whole plume]

Awful handgun, worst in the game by a mile

[fervent vault]

1911 and the m9 are basicly the only handguns

[latent crescent]

best handgun*

did my first run in relapse with that puppy, did not fail me a single bit capping those hajis

[whole plume]

Not at all, the 5.7 is the best and most viable

[latent crescent]

all im hearing is skill issue

[whole plume]

Its beaten in its own cal by the USP45

[latent crescent]

just hit ur shots xd

7 rounds, 7 million, 7 kills

[whole plume]

Yeah but either way id rather have the MKV .50 at that point if we going low capacity

[latent crescent]

u care about practicality, i care about being BASED
we are not the same

even then using a 50AE is NOT practical

[tired jungle]

I kinda hate it

The gun is stupid.

Makes me take ron less and less seriously

[junior palm]

I would love to see VHS-2, M16A4 and for pistol HS2000, I heard it was used by police in America back in the day

[glossy mica]

Can you get mods on Console or is that only PC

Yup

One of my boys just had a stare off with a suspect until I tasted the suspect 😭

[noble pasture]

Explain to me, why are we allowed to use AK's?

The one police precinct in USA with AK's is in fucking Alaska

Could say we are repurposing evidence guns as a way to cut costs

[unborn echo]

why would the LSPD do that when hk416,mcx and scar is right there

[noble pasture]

Those are 3000 USD guns

[unborn echo]

indeed, if the LSPD can afford those then why do they need to repurpose evidence guns

[tacit gull]

we already use that excuse

see mk v

[unborn echo]

so true

[bold plank]

Ghetto Desert Eagle for life

[random mauve]

GIGN again, they alao use 7.62 x 39 for still having high energy when slow. Either because subsonic or short barrel.

[young belfry]

Hey, so on one of the dark waters missions, one of my guys was killed by a suspect a while back, so I stopped shooting to intimidate, was that a good idea?

(either way I completed the mission 10 times more lethally than I normally do)

[young belfry]

Uhh... Ran outta budget

[latent crescent]

this map is fucking impossible

[young belfry]

What map?

[latent crescent]

fucking piss palms

[void jasper]

I don’t shoot to intimidate, simply to skimp on ammo

[young belfry]

What's the mission name?

[latent crescent]

greased palms

[void jasper]

I was just playing it on hard with door wedges

[young belfry]

Oh. Yeah fuck that map

[solemn patio]

Lowk the MK V trivializes the fucking game for pc users

[latent crescent]

its the fucking angles not the door problem

[young belfry]

It made the game 10 times easier for me too, and I'm an Xbox player

[solemn patio]

You need the preorder bonus to have it on console

[latent crescent]

he has the preorder bonus then

[solemn patio]

Same with the rotary flash launcher, mag fed pumpy and mk v

[void jasper]

I closed up the warehouse and went in through the loading dock

[young belfry]

I have the ultimate edition and I have all of those things

[solemn patio]

Shut up and let me finish im gonna bite your fingers.

[young belfry]

I never pre ordered the game

[solemn patio]

That too im pretty sure

[young belfry]

The mag fed shotgun is probably my favorite shotgun because it makes it easier for me to keep track of how much ammo I have left

[solemn patio]

Hear me out, AR style shotgun

[young belfry]

I used a metric fuck ton of flashbangs on the attempt where I completed the mission

[void jasper]

That’s a good idea

[latent crescent]

no mercy for these damn skull monkeys

[solemn patio]

I missed out on ultimate edition n shit cuz I never really had the funds at the time till it launched (i was broke)

[young belfry]

My loadout was
Light rig
2 rifle mags
As many flashbangs as I could carry

[void jasper]

Damn

[young belfry]

The run before I tried that with cs gas and it didn't work

Usually none of my NPC teammates die, which is good, I want them to stay alive, they're my homies frfr

[void jasper]

I try not to get attached to em. Yknow just in case…

[unborn echo]

never use cs gas

[young belfry]

CS gas is how I cleared ides of March, nothing else was working for me

[latent crescent]

HE FUCKING HEADSHOTTED ME ACROSS THE MAP

THIS IS NOT STANDARD MODE WHAT THE FUCK

its because its ironman mode im telling you

this is literally my 6th restart

[unborn echo]

ever tried m32 flash launcher?

[young belfry]

The one time that happened to me I genuinely dropped my controller, and as a result accidentally sacked myself

[latent crescent]

THESE DAMN MEXICANS GOT XRAY VISION

[young belfry]

Yeah I've tried it, but it never really fit my playstyle

[marsh lark]

M32 makes this game feel like childs puzzle

[latent crescent]

100%

[young belfry]

Still can't believe ready or not indirectly punched me in the nuts

[latent crescent]

the second pissy palms is complete the rest of ironman mode is gonna feel like a damn breeze

[young belfry]

Hide and seek is probably going to be another really difficult level

It took me half an hour to complete that and I play on casual

[latent crescent]

hide and seek isnt taht bad

[young belfry]

(couldn't find the last guy)

[unborn echo]

aight man

[latent crescent]

play on standard why would u play on casual

[fervent vault]

I hate missions that require optics

[young belfry]

I like my primary to be something with the capacity to incapacitate really quickly, that's why I use the scar

[latent crescent]

LVAR better

[young belfry]

Because I suck at tactical shooters

[latent crescent]

alright

[young belfry]

Although I did accidentally set myself on the hardest difficulty once and only realized when a grenade trap blew up my entire team, myself included (thanks dorms mission, I had to savescum so my best men weren't gone forever)

More accurately it was me rage quitting, not savescumming

[latent crescent]

these guys are now wallhacking

this cant be vanilla ai i must have fucked up my files

[young belfry]

What possessed you to give the AI wall hacks in the first place?

[latent crescent]

i dont know

im pussying this one out thats fucking insane that they can wallbang me

literally saw me through a wall

[void jasper]

They might’ve heard you

I think the ai in the game is clever enough to know it we are behind cover sometimes especially on hard

[latent crescent]

IM ON STANDARD

ive died 10 times already

[onyx swift]

I had a bot recently find a Suspect, yell for compliance, do ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to them, and then died in one shot from Healthy

Had to restart because I was going for S on Hard (Elephant)

They even kept yelling outside of the college on various attempts even if told to stay put, and attracted attention to the front

[latent crescent]

this is yee yee bullshit

[void jasper]

Standard can be tough too

[latent crescent]

i took every entrance possible

[latent crescent]

it was never this tough, not even on my first greased palms playthrough

[onyx swift]

Sometimes, yeah

You can see it with a Mirrorgun occasionally

But it still sucks if you’ve been quiet as much as possible, and then get lasered down

[latent crescent]

i must have pissed off the babayaga or something

the whole map is full of john wicks

[jolly verge]

@latent crescent There wont be any character shadows if you turn them off

[void jasper]

I love watching a guard walk to the door and try and open it but it literally stops on me and I’m like okay, who’s gonna move first…

[latent crescent]

its preset to high

[onyx swift]

I had that happen yesterday lol, it’s so funny

Especially if I went to use a Mirrorgun, and then they’re stuck trying to open the door off me

[jolly verge]

It's off or on

[latent crescent]

oh its off by default, weird

[void jasper]

See to that door 😎

[onyx swift]

Only thing to hate from that, if it was a door with a Trap

THAT would be the most unlucky thing on some maps lol

[void jasper]

Yeh but with the mirror gun…

You can see which ones are trapped

[onyx swift]

the point is that if a Suspect tried charging a door while it’s a trapped one… imagine how that goes

[void jasper]

That can happen

[onyx swift]

A Lethal Obsession probably has that happen the most

[void jasper]

Ides of march on hard has a few too

[onyx swift]

I once went for a Breach on Hard for that map, and then just heard a loud boom on the other side of the house out of nowhere

[latent crescent]

these fuckers shot me through my shield now

[void jasper]

Yeh and civilians running around like maids or the music studio guy can set off traps too

[latent crescent]

...

immersion mod here i come

[void jasper]

What does that one do

[latent crescent]

gives the ai reasonable weapons eg ends of the earth they would have machine pistols because they make guns illegally

i'll do greased palms another day im just gonna watch a playthrough and see what they do

because no matter what i do i will get domed immediately

[void jasper]

420

[latent crescent]

bro now in quick play they cant aim for shi

nah what the hell

[void jasper]

It a dice roll I think

[latent crescent]

im overthinking this game i just need to hotline miami them

[onyx swift]

If you want help with that, I could get on

[latent crescent]

i already completed everything, its commander mode ironman

[onyx swift]

oh

[latent crescent]

these stupid ahh ai

and this stupid hermit achievement

this game isnt hard, its just greased palms doesnt like me

allah doesnt want me to pass greased palms 😔

[onyx swift]

this might sound crazy, but going for an S Rank on it might be easier for your case

Flashbang launchers

[crude prism]

Adams wins again

[onyx swift]

All those sightlines with regular guns feels so much worse, compared to “fire and forget”

[onyx swift]

RoN in Fortnite would be so silly

A small version of Container0 as a Back Bling would probably be included

[crude prism]

Back bling Voll Barrel

[latent crescent]

i was thinking that but the problem is that they one shot me so its useless

[nimble bough]

bro

what is wrong with this game

how does the mission auto complete without letting me get the soft objective or bag all the evidence 💔

now i have to deal with a A+ instead of an S bro

void gotta lock in 💔

[latent crescent]

because u did collect everything

[marsh lark]

That means all objectives including soft objectives are complete

[latent crescent]

u got an A+ u probably killed someone by accident

[onyx swift]

Or had a Suspect incap someone with crossfire

[void jasper]

A+ still a good score

[undone lion]

goodafternoon

does anyone have an unnecessarily extensive guide on the theory behind CQB 👀

[nimble bough]

no

[nimble bough]

it showed in the debrief that i had 1/2 soft objectives

and i was missing a piece of evidence bagged

[latent crescent]

u trippin

[nimble bough]

bro 💔

i'll clip it if it happens again

i was doing the "search and secure" thing for my team and it just ended 😭

[void jasper]

lol omg I would’ve thought this post would get flooded with responses and players going apesht

[void musk]

What mission was it?

[undone lion]

me too and I'm very dissapointed ;-; I need a 300 slide powerpoint on cqb for I have lost the art of readying or notting

[ruby pivot]

I feel like they should add the ksg I have one irl and I think it bring a good amount of use in the game

[quasi coral]

Wow turns out the AI does shoot in cover

Now it's time for VOID to make Los Locos hold up their handguns gangster style, slowly walk to the TRAINED AND ARMED POLICE OFFICERS for style points and die

[quartz oar]

Why can i not host

Friends only lobby

[nimble bough]

it was mirage at sea

i re-did it like an hour ago and got S so it's fine but ill still lookout just incase it happens on another mission

[wraith gale]

it does that after a time

[quasi coral]

The AI is seriously messed up, just breached a door in 3 Letter Triad and they just kept clearing when there was a GUY RIGHT INFRONT OF EM

Now, they did fortunately put him down quick but, come on.

And they all just went into another room and died.. Man

[chilly thorn]

you never knew that lol, they have tons of cover animations.

I love the one where they side ways blind fire around the corner with a tec9

[quasi coral]

I did before, I forgot and then I saw it again lol

[proven dagger]

Is the reticle on the m5b meant to be that dim?

[quasi coral]

Still waiting for the update..

[quasi coral]

Don't know, but it's quite useful

[knotty oar]

If any of the void guys see this, do you guys know if the console version of RoN will have a Black Friday sale or is that only a steam thing. Xbox specifically

Someone told me that the pc version would likely get one but I’m not sure about here on Xbox

[torpid onyx]

I didn't notice anything weird with it

[proven dagger]

when I use it, it seems like its really dim

[torpid onyx]

as in the red dot?

[proven dagger]

yes

[torpid onyx]

idk seems normal to me rn

[quasi coral]

It's significantly more dim than the little brother version

Now the question is : Is the smaller one too bright or the taller one too dim?

[torpid onyx]

by little brother you mean the t2?

I put my weapon FOV down to 70 to try and see the dot better to notice a differance but I really can't discern anything significant

[quasi coral]

Yeep

I have my FOV on 100(Probably why my target identification is so ass) and the M5B is my preferred sight because the T2 dot just blocks out 60% my the view if the suspect is anywhere further than 15 - 20 meters

[torpid onyx]

I'm 110 on world and weapon fov

[quasi coral]

110-? Don't ya think that's just a little too far? Lol

I used to have it there as well, but lower FOV honestly makes it tons easier to put shots in

[turbid monolith]

A lot of the red dots are aggravatingly dim

My lady has vision issues and the only one she can see is the EOTECH, keep in mind, many of the sights in this game, actually do have orange and green variations.

[umbral birch]

Oh man, does anyone hate the map Greased Palms ?

This map really sucks

[noble pasture]

99% of community hates Postal Map (Greased Palms)

Suspect AI can use 3 layers of cover and still shoot you

[quasi coral]

Shiittt, guess it is just that dim.

[noble pasture]

Has she tried iron sights?

Some have illuminated sights

[mellow rivet]

Anyone have an answer to why my ai team doesnt listen to the queued order? Instead of executing the command, they come to me, go back there and do it. Breaks all my coordination 💀

[mellow rivet]

Its filled of nasty corners npcs can run to and hide 💔

[wraith gale]

send a vid pls

i can help if i see what ur actually pressing

[grizzled granite]

Fuck the hospital mission is so hard. Tried 8 times in a row

I keep getting one tapped as im spraying them with a p90

Maybe I should use the dmr

[wraith gale]

thats your issue

[grizzled granite]

Thats why im saying it is

[wraith gale]

use JHP 7.62x39

[mellow rivet]

Well i cant right now but i had red on a door and queued them to breach and clear. I went in another room with blue to clear half the building and simce the other half was where they were, i wanted to do a coordinated entry on different sides. And so i stacked blue on entry point and told red to execute only for them to regroup to me..

[wraith gale]

Ngl idk😭

[turbid monolith]

I think the issue is she may perceive colors differently, it doesn’t help that this game is extremely bare bones in accessibility settings.

[wraith gale]

what platform

[turbid monolith]

Xbox

[wraith gale]

there should be some colorblind settings if thatll help.

[turbid monolith]

That will do as it will, for color deficiency, but it still doesn’t solve the issue of sights just being entirely unadjustable.

I don’t use the red dots either because they’re just too fucking dim, my eyes have trouble tracking the reticle being blinded at the slightest tiniest sliver of an amount of red hue.

[wraith gale]

I misunderstood what you said. That's my fault. Thought you were saying she was colorblind.

As for the dimness, it's unnecessarily dim, and I wish the devs would change it. We don't really have a dev to talk to about it anymore since they fired their last CM.

[turbid monolith]

You didn’t mistake me, it’s a little bit of both! severe myopia and slight color and contrast demands.

[wraith gale]

Ah.

The only way I can see the devs even thinking about a change is the off chance one types here. Its been 2 months since they fired their CM, and I haven't seen one typed

[turbid monolith]

I thought I was quite dim, I’ve shot both an FNP45T and P320 Full-size, I believe the FNP had red reticle RMR and the 320 used the SIG Romeo sight, very decent on brightness!

[wraith gale]

Hopefully with the multi attachment rails, they'll add attachment variants.

[turbid monolith]

Superb game though, hopefully they’re sitting on big plans and just trying to put those in place

[wraith gale]

they most likely are sitting on plans. they talk about huge things then sit on them for a few months then randomly drop them lol

just like kbm support for console

[grizzled granite]

Welp. I cant beat hospital. Goddamn

Spent 30 minutes trying to beat it just now

Every time my whole team dies and im left to try and beat it alone

I keep getting killed while I dont have a line of sight of the enemy

And he kills me in like half a second while im firing at him

[quasi coral]

Hard or standard?

[grizzled granite]

Standard

[quasi coral]

Alright, uhh, which part do your teammates usually get wiped?

[grizzled granite]

The third floor

Sometimes second, but mainly the third floor

[quasi coral]

I think instead of charging mainland rooms, you can try to find alternate routes and utilize yer flashbangs and such, and try to fall in your team often, diamond formation to watch those flanks

The hospital map is actually quite easy for most, just that, it stretches for a long time so, yea, you'll be in tough shit if the 3rd floor was already very problematic for ya

[robust shadow]

I am glad they are bringing in a system where we can run a laser and a light

[turbid monolith]

Use straight-up hate to put those fools down

[stone bay]

Best all round build for a point man? Doesn’t have to be map specific, just wanna hear a few ideas.

[turbid monolith]

I do mean .308

[unborn echo]

riot shield, always

[quasi coral]

I usually give short barreled rifles or higher caliber SMG's for the point-man, specifically the ARN-180 or the MP7

But if you're going for performance, the M1014 Shotgun, rock em a Five-Seven and a ballistic shield

[surreal pelican]

How does the team AI work in quickplay? Stress mechanic doesn't apply to my teammates right?

[surreal pelican]

It was hell for me on hard 😭

I took the main lobby route to avoid the bridge firefight that can occur if you take the lobby entrance

[quasi coral]

Yep, quickplay has no stress has no perks has nothing

[surreal pelican]

Oh yea and use wedges too

[quasi coral]

Definitely, don't let em flank you

[surreal pelican]

Nice, is it the usual 4? Eli, Prescott?

[quasi coral]

Yep, Eli, Prescott, King, and Swan

[surreal pelican]

Nice. Coz I was watching civilian use only vids and I was wondering how he always had the usual 4 in his videos

[quasi coral]

I like Swan the best, the guy actually looks good in the protective glasses

[surreal pelican]

Judge the best

[quasi coral]

Too bad I can't see myself

[surreal pelican]

Btw what's your favourite map?

[quasi coral]

Boy I wonder what could be my favorite map..

[surreal pelican]

Mine would be maybe stolen valour? Reminds me of the raid movie and dredd 2012

[quasi coral]

Mine is definitely either Sins of The Father or Rust Belt

[fervent vault]

grease palms

[surreal pelican]

Rust Belt has the sicario feels

[fervent vault]

many hate it i love it

[surreal pelican]

I like the atmosphere of greased palms

[quasi coral]

Stolen Valour is really nice too, a good 3rd or 4th, just has a nicee feel to it

[surreal pelican]

Feel bad for the rookie tho

[quasi coral]

I love it for the one time I can use my Vortex sight

[quasi coral]

Poor guy

[fervent vault]

i like the intense firefight in the wearhouse

[surreal pelican]

It was the chiefs fault. Who would send a rookie into an area like 213?

[quasi coral]

Reading his description, it makes me feel worse

[quasi coral]

Exactly bru, that's like O block of Los Sueños

[surreal pelican]

The warehouse is hell on Hard

[surreal pelican]

Was hoping I'd find him alive when I first played it

[fervent vault]

yeah i know haha still havent got it on A grade

[quasi coral]

I'd like the intensity to be more clear for me lol

[quasi coral]

Well, he is alive but very badly injured

[surreal pelican]

Goodluck officer 🫡

I just threw like 2 flashbangs into the conveyor belt areas since the M32 flash couldn't indirect impact the area when I was doing it on Hard S

[surreal pelican]

Not as bad as the narco detective

[surreal pelican]

I'm curious, in commander mode can we unlock Eli, Prescott, King and Swan too?

[surreal pelican]

I have a feeling as to where they might've gotten the inspiration for that detective..

[quasi coral]

Pretty sure their models are available but you can't get them per say

[surreal pelican]

o

I haven't touched quick play at all, def would try it now since I don't wanna lose my goated officer traits 😭

Esp now that I'm done with every Hard S, except for DLC 1 and 2 since I don't have them yet

One mission I actually found fun doing my Hard S was elephant

[quasi coral]

I don't play campaign anymore lol, losing my officers because the AI has been tweaking is not what I want

[surreal pelican]

Quick play?

[quasi coral]

Why so?

[quasi coral]

Always

[surreal pelican]

Coz it's fast paced, no music and pretty much just 3 perps

Pretty manageable and easy elephant

[quasi coral]

3 on Hard? I get like 4 atleast, or I just counted wrong

[surreal pelican]

Just watch out for the door traps and count those 5 mins down

[surreal pelican]

I think it's 3-4

[quasi coral]

Woah they even have door traps on hard, hell

[surreal pelican]

Basically 4U Gas but with traps

[surreal pelican]

Double doors have no traps (or at least not that I've seen) so that makes life easier at least

[quasi coral]

True, considering flashes don't yield to lv4 plates

[surreal pelican]

Hm?

[quasi coral]

Too much work for a single entrance

[surreal pelican]

The only pain part was finding the students and civilians after subduing the shooters and bombs

Move to exit only works like 50 percent of the time

Idk how it should work but out of the 5 I saw at spawn, I only received 1 civilian secured msg from asking them to go to exit

This was on pure solo too

[quasi coral]

Yea, they usually don't get arrested or get stuck

[surreal pelican]

Amazing

[quasi coral]

So you have to melee them to arrest them manually

[surreal pelican]

Is it me or is the beanbag shotgun satisfying? Same goes when doing the arrest animation

[quasi coral]

Meh never used to BShotgun

[surreal pelican]

I only used it a few times before discovering the M32 rotary

[surreal pelican]

Can I use balaclava on quick play? Or is it soley for co op only?

[quasi coral]

Co op only, and I don't know why like

[quasi coral]

It felt like yesterday when I had every man with the pepperball launcher

[surreal pelican]

Void Devs if you're reading this implement balaclava as eyewear option or something please

[surreal pelican]

TRPL with shield for my pointman non lethal. Speaking of which, have you ever seen the trailer units?

[quasi coral]

Hell yeah, those guys are TUFF

[quasi coral]

Praying on it, headwear, just a multicam and tan option 😭

[surreal pelican]

Where do you find em? I haven't seen them yet

[surreal pelican]

Pls void devs, if we can have dual laser and flashlight soon, maybe balaclava?

[quasi coral]

Go outside and go to one of the armored trucks, their just chillin there and one of them looks geared up for some heavy heavy riots

[quasi coral]

Pray on it, next update brother

[surreal pelican]

After mission right?

[quasi coral]

Yuh

[surreal pelican]

Hmm.. is it rng based for them to appear? I've never seen them securing site at all

[quasi coral]

Nope, pretty sure not

Ohh, you mean the clean up team, uhh no

They appear after every mission, carry out all the suspects and yea, they sport that traditional swat gear

[tacit gull]

They're broken in every single mode but quickplay

[surreal pelican]

Wtff, I've never seen them in commander mode at all

[surreal pelican]

I'll try quickplay later, hopefully they'll come

[prime spear]

#🎨ron-screenshots-and-art message @winter wyvern fire

[carmine kindle]

Guys I have a question. I see some players do this but after you kill or incapacitate a suspect why do you cuff them?

[winter tusk]

bdsm kink

[fervent vault]

standard procedure

[carmine kindle]

Ah I see

[fervent vault]

during intense firefights i dont even do it to much fking around while your team is getting ripped apart

[jolly verge]

There is no point to cuff killed/incapacitated suspects, unless it's incapacitated HVT target, but they can feign death sometimes

[tiny mountain]

cause that one time you don't do it, suspect fakes it and pulls a quick one to bop ya

[gritty dome]

oh my lord

[winter tusk]

have u heard of deadchecking?

[fervent vault]

i heard a real SWAT operator say during a review they are required to do it because there have bin situations where shot a person who was presumed dead and they still reach for a weapon

[fervent vault]

not in SWAT ROE

[tiny mountain]

I don't do that. We playin as cops, not military

[gritty dome]

I was about the complete the Ides of March, I went to arrest my last suspect who was surrendering and my AI teammate just shot him

I COULDVE GOTTEN AN A+

[winter tusk]

er yea. just see if theres a puddle of blood on the floor. if there isnt, they are fake dead

idk wym by roe LUL

[fervent vault]

i love it when they scream ... lol

[gritty dome]

has anyone completed Ides of March on standard with a grade A or above

[winter tusk]

idk man. i just came back from raiding bin ladens compund

[winter tusk]

S hard

[gritty dome]

holy damn

[fervent vault]

yeah i did i only have grease palms not on A

[gritty dome]

I am here struggling to do that Ides of March on standard 😭

[tiny mountain]

Probably most people who finished singleplayer

[winter tusk]

modded LOL. didnt have to pick up evidence is all

[gritty dome]

its honestly hard for me

[tiny mountain]

No Mercy master race 🫡

[gritty dome]

I started playing 2 days ago so still very new to this game

[winter tusk]

yessir. arresting 3 suspects still hard tho

[fervent vault]

youll get used to it if you keep playing

[winter tusk]

yea. just gotta pre aim places where they might be

[tiny mountain]

you must be one of those people who don't know how to use flashbangs

[gritty dome]

im having problems to aim the flashbangs

[winter tusk]

bro im here to shoot and kill people. not arrest them

[tiny mountain]

makes sense

[gritty dome]

and my AI teammates are so stupid

[fervent vault]

use the the arm as a visor

[gritty dome]

left arm as the sight right

i heard that between the 2 fingers is the accurate one

[tiny mountain]

use commands to stop them
best one is "move here" and "stack up"
don't let them follow you all the time

[winter tusk]

yea

[fervent vault]

pretty much same in hell let loose

[unborn echo]

theres literally a command to make them stop tho

[gritty dome]

I see okay

any more tips ?

[fervent vault]

shoot them before they shoot you

[unborn echo]

try dispatch

[gritty dome]

ok bro

[gritty dome]

whats that

[unborn echo]

a game

[tiny mountain]

the best way to use the stupid swat team is to have them flash or stinger the room instead of you doing it
that way you gain way more throwables

1. Tell them to stack up
2. Give command to clear with flash
3. Just after you see they throw it, issue the command "hold"

[prime spear]

Watch yourself.

[gritty dome]

ah I see

[prime spear]

Good, good

[gritty dome]

and I saw in a video to order my teammate to wedge all the doors before clearing the main one, should I do it or nah ?

[fervent vault]

i always carry 4 flash lol

[unborn echo]

make it 6

[fervent vault]

thats possible?

[unborn echo]

if you dont mind taking time to finish a level then sure its solid way

[gritty dome]

yeah I have all the time in the world

[unborn echo]

theres no limit to how much you can bring a certain item with you

[gritty dome]

my fastest time is like 8 minutes on this mission (standard, B grade)

[unborn echo]

there is still a total item limit, but not inividually

[winter tusk]

mods ban this guy for being italian

[prime spear]

Mods ban this guy for being against his creator

[winter tusk]

tf u mean. i gave u most of ur mods

[prime spear]

Fuckin lying your ass off

[gritty dome]

wait oml this game has mods

[prime spear]

“The ocean has water” ahh

[gritty dome]

bro I forgot 😭

[winter tusk]

ah ur on PC. GOOD FOR YOU. enjoy all the mods

u will not regret

[prime spear]

That dont come from this guy

[unborn echo]

vanilla better

[prime spear]

Nuke the whole generation

[gritty dome]

also guys, what was RON before censorship

[winter tusk]

vanilla? wheres the fun in just doing it to make a baby

[winter tusk]

download uncensored or not mod

[prime spear]

Same as now

[winter tusk]

fuck off

[prime spear]

If you mad about the devs censoring child porn, you weird.(not you)

[winter tusk]

dismemberment of limbs, naked people, child doing the juice wrld

[gritty dome]

hmm

[prime spear]

Nasty reference

[gritty dome]

ok what does the "child doing the juice wrld" mean ??

[prime spear]

OD

[gritty dome]

oh.

[unborn echo]

online dating

[fervent vault]

do you realy wanna know?

[prime spear]

Asking me?

[fervent vault]

sry i wanted to ask nishan

[prime spear]

They understood it

[winter tusk]

fick dich

[gritty dome]

i know what OD is

[prime spear]

Suka kar

[gritty dome]

i love this game

[fervent vault]

sympatisch XD

[gritty dome]

cant wait to move onto Neon Tomb

i am finishing all the missions before on standard

[prime spear]

Oh, the horrors you dont wanna know…

[gritty dome]

no spoilers pls

[unborn echo]

neon tomb is mid

[gritty dome]

but after playing it, on a scale of 1-10, how much PTSD will I get ?

[fervent vault]

can you realy spoil RON though?

[winter tusk]

desensitized

[prime spear]

Its all about child porn and terrorism

[gritty dome]

ok WHAT

[fervent vault]

yeah pretty much XD

[gritty dome]

i thought the 1st few missions will be on the child thing

[unborn echo]

ur getting slimed by mean

[fervent vault]

study the lore before you do a mission then youll know

[prime spear]

They sending a local SWAT team to a damn TERRORIST BOMBING ATTACK

[gritty dome]

elephant is the most STUPID mission in the entire game

[prime spear]

Cuz they let you walk in

[fervent vault]

yeah but SWAT in LS is overly funded tho

[gritty dome]

like bro why would u send 5 SWAT members in a big ass building with terrorists

[winter tusk]

funny enuff, the main lore was the lspd was getting defunded

[prime spear]

We NEVER hear about Secret Service or the military

[gritty dome]

irl they have atleast 6-8 members with 2 or more squads

[gritty dome]

yeah cuz they are secret

[unborn echo]

i mean who would enjoy munching on a donut simulator

[fervent vault]

yeah the police units still have cars that looked like from the 80,s but its said the administration in the game was more intrested in funding militairy stuff and units

[prime spear]

Instead of the Navy Seal, they got the Red Dolphin

[gritty dome]

wheres the corruption part

[prime spear]

USIA

[fervent vault]

also whati heard was like the RON universe had like 5 diffrent POTUS in 10 years

[gritty dome]

i hope in the future they add a feature where we can play as the enemies

[unborn echo]

greased palms is a good example of higherups corruption

[prime spear]

The player

[gritty dome]

hmm

do yall ever want to kill ur own teammates

[prime spear]

Internal Affairs shaking in them boots

[fervent vault]

no

[prime spear]

“You’re in my spot”… turn around for me will ya

[unborn echo]

never

[fervent vault]

i only team kill on HLL sometimes but thats because its funny

[prime spear]

@winter tusk ? Yes

[latent crescent]

no, greased palms is

the strat for elephant is to go solo

[prime spear]

Grease their palms

[unborn echo]

greased palms

[gritty dome]

aa

[prime spear]

I dress up as the CS2 Terrorist

[gritty dome]

wait

for this next mission im gonna wear jeans and a denim

[prime spear]

Ends of the world?

[fervent vault]

thats the only mission i feel bad for the perps