👮ron-discussion

[full wave]

Ngl I just taze the hell out of them

[nimble bough]

sounds fun

im gonna start doing that

[full wave]

All I need is one denial of compliance and just taze em without any other commands

[fickle idol]

When civies do that I get tempted to quick save.

If there was one.

[full wave]

It's worth watching them do that electric dance when they said no

[fickle idol]

Honestly. I just want them to let me shoot people in the foot

[full wave]

Or a quick save to deal with two certain individuals from Valley of the dolls and Spider

[fickle idol]

Not even them. Just civilians

But in those two individuals cases I don't let em live

Period.

Michael either.

I always give him the french special

*357

[full wave]

I only let them 'live' was when aiming for a good grade, otherwise when i do I come back with a M104 or B1301 to just go nuts shooting them

[fickle idol]

My magnum wishes to be anointed with blood.

[leaden acorn]

twisted nerve in iron man is going to be the breaking point

[fickle idol]

I really just want the game to be okay with me killing the abhorently evil people.

[full wave]

Honestly, especially when they decide to be dumbasses and aim a gun? Total reason to kill em but we don't get the points or whatever

[normal tinsel]

I mean but the point is that cops are supposed to bring people to justice, not play judge, jury and executioner

[normal tinsel]

yeah I mean while trying to go for the pacifist as a challenge is fun, it's kinda annoying that you are penalized for what is perfectly acceptable imo

theres a mod that lets you get S rank without going pacifist though, but its kinda cheating in my opinion since it removes 90% of the challenge

[fickle idol]

The points really shouldn't be deducted from having to use lethal force.

[nimble bough]

LOL

[fickle idol]

My callsign is literally Judge.

Let the wicked and evil dread my fury.

[nimble bough]

mine always back up behind some corner so i always keep the gun out incase theres someone else

[normal tinsel]

I mean it's not really points "deducted", it's points not added, which makes sense because you want to encourage arrest over shoot, but it means that you can't get the top rank

[full wave]

Speaking of points; does anyone tend to get a -50 reduction points for killing a shooter holding a hostage??
I sometimes get that when I get a good shot on a shooter and just assume I grazed a civi??

[full wave]

Ironically Voll is a massive coward from my runs, only time he ever shot was with my friends

[fickle idol]

And my many guns.

[normal tinsel]

yeah a lot of the times you shoot through their hand or something by accident, it's happened to me a lot. imo almost never go for the precision shot unless you don't have util left, otherwise just leave their LOS and toss a nade and theyll let go of the hostage, then shoot

[fickle idol]

Also one time I accidently killed a guy with a gas shot.

[full wave]

Beware of suspects doing that too, I thought it was a bug but watched as they tried pulling a fast one and failed miserably

[fickle idol]

He was very close. Got dommed in the head

[normal tinsel]

there's a main objective to arrest him, so I think they made his surrender chance a bit higher so that it's still accomplishable if you didn't bring a beanbag shotgun / pepperball rifle

[full wave]

And I mean when they're 'surrending'

[fickle idol]

One time I shot a suspect in the groin with a 12 guage

He lived.

[full wave]

I suppose? Cause I always bring non-lethal primary and secondary

[nimble bough]

i be wanting to shoot them just for going behind the cover, i'll literally be yelling at them and they just continue to walk back slowly

[fickle idol]

All pellets hit. But he lived somehow

[full wave]

Lol I usually let them, I give em a surprise full auto the moment I see their pistol

[fickle idol]

That sort of ai behaviour warrants kos

And like I said. I think the game's roe and points should adjust to reduce the danger to yourself and your squad.

[full wave]

Damnit I meant lethal primary and secondary, getting sluggish here

[nimble bough]

full auto sends my entire screen into 30 different angles

i just keep it on single cause i might accidentally team kill with the recoil it has ☠️

[fickle idol]

It's horribly unrealistic for a swat team to not kos folks who are armed to the teeth.

[nimble bough]

yea

if anything swat are probably the real kill on sighters

since theyre only called in the most dangerous/armed suspect situations

[full wave]

I mean tbf, if they're dealing the more dangerous situations I'd assume so

Cause I doubt you wanna be screaming 'put the gun down!' when they're already fully intending on using it now

[fickle idol]

And police are trained to mag dump suspects if they are under sufficient danger.

I'm talking about beat cops btw

[nimble bough]

yeah

[fickle idol]

They don't deserve the second warning

[nimble bough]

i wish you could

yell through walls and stuff, unless you can

like if i know someones behind the door i should get a voice line like "come out the room with your hands up"

[fickle idol]

I've had to mash F so many times to make progress with the ai.

[full wave]

Exactly, that's why I play almost KOS when I see a gun aimed

[fickle idol]

Doesn't help with the id and phone flash animations.

[full wave]

It's them or me ya know?

[fickle idol]

Bingo

And even then. More often than not it's me.

Do I just have a shit loadout?

[full wave]

I was so tired once I accidentally shot a civi assuming they were reaching, idk how I thought they were but if the game had more gore, the entire chest or side will be missing (I had a B1301)

[fickle idol]

Oof

[full wave]

Yeah, was a good laugh though

[fickle idol]

Plus most people keep phones in their front pocket.

And security are supposed to have their id tags on their chest.

[patent heart]

Anyone have advice for relapse solo hard S rank

[fickle idol]

Literally a crime to not have it there when on duty

[fickle idol]

I know cause I am one.

[full wave]

Is that in regards of that one MindJot mission?

[full wave]

Oh cool

[fickle idol]

The one unarmed security guard

Who pulls his id out of his back pocket

Another thing

[full wave]

Damn I don't remember seeing em do that animation yet

[fickle idol]

I hate how many weapons that are in the game that aren't usable at all (ai and wall weapons)

[full wave]

Unsure, haven't gotten that far yet, still getting campaign missions done on standard

[fickle idol]

Let me lick that fiberglass m16

[full wave]

Lol

[fickle idol]

At least give us an m16a4 with the carry handle irons

[patent heart]

Ive noticed terrorist ai start with very high stress. Makes their aim and reactions very snappy

[fickle idol]

... that uhhh. That's not good game design

They turn and shoot faster than I can actually drag the mouse

[patent heart]

It sort of makes sense since they’re out to kill you. But no, faster than reaction human speed ai is shit design

[fickle idol]

How are console players supposed to deal with this?

[patent heart]

That’s why when you S rank, being quiet and stealthy makes things simpler

[full wave]

We...Manage

[fickle idol]

The second part os more what I mean. Them being on edge is realistic.

[fickle idol]

I kinda just wanna blow all their hands off

[patent heart]

Also, high stress suspects can track you through walls. This includes hunting you down if they see you from far away

[fickle idol]

If given the opportunity.

I would turn their chest into a cavity

[full wave]

And the non lethal equipment too right?

[fickle idol]

That's... That's so dumb

[patent heart]

Yeah. Killing suspects makes the rest more stressed

More stress = aimbot ai

[full wave]

Fair enough

[fickle idol]

The game's lighting makes it difficult to see em from those distances

Plus most monitors don't help.

Even at 1080p

[patent heart]

I didnt understand how hard relapse was until i tried soloing it without squad ai

[full wave]

I completely forgot I have my game still paused on a mission, whoops

[patent heart]

Farthest ive gotten was the pediatric wing starting from the main lobby

[fickle idol]

Ahahahhahaha

[full wave]

I completed Relapse earlier on standard, went through the other entrance that leads into the place with dead bodies(my phone ain't helping spell the word and I'm not gonna fight it :( )

[fickle idol]

I really wish there was some other indie/solo dev that came out with something just like RON with 90% of the flaws scrubbed out.

[full wave]

Im still outside the building holding an M104 lol

[fickle idol]

Cause I know for a fact void isn't gonna do shit about the issues

No point in even complaining when they say they listen but I'm damn bloody sure they barely even play their own game.

[leaden acorn]

is there a reason my vc isn’t working? if it helps i’m on pe5

[patent heart]

I dont think start position for relapse matters much (i start main lobby and wedge all the doors, then try to clear the rest of the map).

[full wave]

I mean they're trying I'm assuming? Just takes some time I guess

[patent heart]

The suspects are just cracked. The top floors are nightmares to clear solo

[fickle idol]

More communication

[full wave]

I guess? I spawned there to avoid the death funnel of a bridge coming from pediatrics

[fickle idol]

Inform the community about what feedback they have recieved and what they're gonna do about it.

[full wave]

Isn't that what the Announcement tab is for? Or has that been quiet?

[fickle idol]

So even assuming they're listening. They're not registering back that they are. So for all I knoe they are ignoring.

[winter wyvern]

2017 SERT MOD IS BACK

[fickle idol]

The announcements channel has just been a merch computer, a thing on pax and a patch to los swenos stories

And community content. Mods

[full wave]

I see

[fickle idol]

And that the console version has 1000000 sales

Nothing about the actual issues as of late.

No new patch notes since march either

[full wave]

Yeah, honestly best I wanna assume is have to painfully wait until we're given any news or updates regarding issues; I mean the games popular and well received, if anything it's like a cash cow yeah? So why suddenly abandon it??

[fickle idol]

There is a known issues channel which is active but it's like... focused on more specific things and not the broad basics

Fundemental allied ai being dumb af

[full wave]

Right

[fickle idol]

This shit just makes me angry

[full wave]

Again best we can do is just wait for the better or worse, who knows

[faint saddle]

Okay! Props to Judge, AKA J-800, he actually showed some human emotion when finding that container in Hide and Seek! I hadn’t found it my first time through.

[quasi coral]

Lol, I noticed that in the loading sequences on the chopper, boat, and truck, Judge actually wears a balaclava for some reason

The lovely devs over here, come on, you can't you see how SICK we'd look with balaclavas?

[faint saddle]

I’ve seen the chopper for the hotel mission, but when are the boat and truck?

[full wave]

Usually for the yacht mission or oil rig one for the boat I believe

[faint saddle]

DLC?

[full wave]

Yeah, friend had it

[faint saddle]

Ahh, that explains it.

[quasi coral]

Yep, uhh, only in the DLC's

The truck, well, more specifically the armored vehicle is in almost every mission on ground

[faint saddle]

Oh, I thought you meant like a truck truck.

[quasi coral]

Ya, the truck truck.

The truck.. That trucks trucks.

[faint saddle]

No, like Judge and the boys are heading to a mission in the trailer of an 18-wheeler. 😅

[quasi coral]

That'd be sick, honestly

Though, unfortunate there is just no use for that.. Yet

[fickle idol]

There's another matter.

Time to register.

At best the very very VERY best humans who have trained for decades can go from low rest to high ready with a first aimed shot off in about half to 1 full secons.

Some random crackhead with a gun is not gonna have the ability to coordinate that fast

[faint saddle]

I dunno man, I’ve known some pretty amazing crackheads.

[exotic plover]

Is there gonna be any new maps guns/dlc?

[full wave]

Unless the crack is doing something lol

[fickle idol]

Besides the point

Someone with minimal experience and training can not effectively combat an organised unit.

It's like comparing snake to the ai snake fights

[wicked charm]

Tried a new route on Twisted Nerve today and it was really promising for me in terms of effectiveness for me. I had fun with it.

I usually go through the back entry to the main house with the tunnels in the back yard. But now I’m finding going through the second house with the pool in the backyard to be a more efficient route for me.

[quasi coral]

Push from the front door and into the chaos

[wicked charm]

😂 I’m not that crazy.

[noble pasture]

Any fixes yet?

So instead of fixing the damn game, Void is handing out free pc's and merch

[iron canopy]

There on super crack

SWAT! The last thing I hear before I die from getting hit in the face with 12 gauge

😭

[wheat crescent]

I may be the only one who feels this but I swear some missions in RoN hard mode got me thinking I'm relying on luck and others got me going way slower than I ever will do a mission.

[magic nexus]

Honestly yeah. Enemies turn into Superman on hard mode. It's annoying

[wheat crescent]

In general you either die to the first guy you see or you get to live but then probably die to the last guy.

[magic nexus]

Ong bro it sucks.

[wheat crescent]

Relapse honestly is only pain because literally everybody is on the third floor of both wings, literally no one else.

[magic nexus]

Relapse is a fun mission on normal though. Not on hard

[wheat crescent]

Every mission is fun until we talk about hard mode

[magic nexus]

touché

[wheat crescent]

Neon tomb, dont even get me started on how fast your heart can race even after you shut the music off

[magic nexus]

Lmao. I remember one time. At the end. I was about to get S rank. Just missing one guy. I walk up to a door... Guess what happens?

[wheat crescent]

Bomber?

[magic nexus]

Yeah... Fuking bomber... Got me. 2 officers KIA. one incapacitated. Other one was fine

[wheat crescent]

I was doing a free play run for fun and I remember just stopping when my whole team died to one single bomber

[magic nexus]

At least you didn't die there

Unlike how I did

[fickle idol]

More or less.

[fickle idol]

This game isn't worth the time.

I'll do my own thing and shit

Other games distract from productivity anyways

[whole plume]

Yeah Hard is unplayable rn

[whole plume]

I feel like its worth atleast 1 playthrough's worth of time, but at full price for the Deluxe edition (what I paid) I am not quite sure I got good Value for my money

[fickle idol]

Especially when half the systems, ai mostly are overtuned. And everyone is dumb af. Or has impossible knowledge like wall tracking

[uncut lily]

why is my game making me use epic online services now

i am and have been on steam

[urban walrus]

Because of crossplay

[uncut lily]

vomits a little

I never asked for this

[amber dock]

Holy shit it’s a epic gamer appearance

[serene prairie]

hey i just got the game anyone got any tips

[quasi coral]

Use the alt key to free lean when you're in a gunfight

[serene prairie]

i’m on console mb i forgot to say but thx

[glass nest]

How do you enable replay on console

[quasi coral]

Uhh, just make sure to utilize everything the game has to offer, such as free lean, swap teams when door stacking, and most importantly use the mirror gun

[amber dock]

Doesn’t exist for console

[quasi coral]

And pay attention to TOC's opening lines, he might mention "traps" on certain missions

[serene prairie]

ok tysm

[glass nest]

Dang

[quasi coral]

Noo problem

[idle mauve]

i just 100% the game🙏🙏

[quasi coral]

Congrattations my guy

[idle mauve]

thanks dude it only took 730 hours

[quasi coral]

730 HOURS?! Jesus christian

[idle mauve]

yeah but not really tho cuz half of it was loading time cuz of my pc lol

[quasi coral]

Oh, lmfao, I feel ya

Well congrats, standard or hard?

[next sable]

Is anyone else having absolutely abhorrent hit reg on literally everything?

[old pivot]

Generally headcanon Judge as a kind of Will Graham-esque figure

[torpid onyx]

also for the love of god on console swap the command menu to list not wheel and swap the tactical wheel selection stick to right stick not left so you can move while selecting tacticals

@serene prairie

[serene prairie]

yea

[old pivot]

“Polite, affable father” who’s inner darkness is drawn out by his job, getting more jaded, more violent, and less sane as the missions go on

[torpid onyx]

also it might be advisable to change the shout to a differant button then interact so you don't spook people while tryna Interact
(not necessary)

[serene prairie]

ok

[quasi coral]

ONG

[spiral tundra]

You can

Change it to list

[torpid onyx]

yeah that's what I'm telling him to do

[vestal mauve]

PATCH WHEN

[idle zinc]

probably in the fall

like october, november

[vestal mauve]

oof

[torpid onyx]

I just want them to change the graphics back to the old version and fix CS gas

along other inconsistancies with suspects animations not lining up or just insane John wick stuff

[toxic harness]

Fix? More like buff or revert to it's very effective state?

[torpid onyx]

it's both nerfed into the ground and also bugged where it flat out doesn't work sometimes even if the gas is literally under the person's feet they won't react

[vestal mauve]

two months for CS gas fix would be awful

or people phasing into walls

[toxic harness]

The reaction time for CS has been dramatically increased where Hard Mode makes it even more useless when the suspects has more time to not react

[torpid onyx]

also in regards to John wick sometimes suspects will straight up just one tap you from 50 meters away like across the entire car dealership carpark though 3 car windows or will just go absolutely charging through a doorway guns down and be able to aimbot like 3 people and kill them in a second

but then the Devs also made some suspects so useless they can't hit a shot out of 50 rounds

[torpid onyx]

or they'll one tap you just straight through a wall/curtain etc where you cant even be seen or they'll kill you before the suspect's shoulder even clears the corner

[toxic harness]

that's a skill issue

[torpid onyx]

my own ai teamates will go sprinting into a room gun down for no reason and not even manage to shoot a single shot in 3 seconds and just die 🙏

[full wave]

Felt that

[toxic harness]

That's what I hate the most

[quasi coral]

They are NOT ready gang

[verbal meteor]

i completed all base missions in ron but i didn't get the achievement

i just completed relapse that was my last one but didn't get it

[amber dock]

which achivement specifically? there's like 10+ related to complete the game

[verbal meteor]

i'm too old for this

achievement

[amber dock]

how much progress you have on it?

[verbal meteor]

17/18

[amber dock]

you on console?

[verbal meteor]

no pc

[amber dock]

Do this for me then

win+r and type in %LOCALAPPDATA% and find readyornot then saved then savegames and DM me the achivements.sav file

I might be able to track down which map you're missing

[verbal meteor]

okaaa

dm'd

[amber dock]

You're missing the 11th mission

[verbal meteor]

which is?

[amber dock]

uh just count from gas station map to the 11th one lol i don't remember from the top of my head

[verbal meteor]

alr tyyyy

[latent egret]

Yo i use a shield, taser pistol, and a regular shotgun, anyone got any tips for me?

[round bloom]

how come when i try to link my epic account, it says "use the right email" or "this service is temporarily down"

[latent egret]

https://discord.com/channels/310075021882294272/921527871619620914

[torpid onyx]

taps about what

[latent egret]

I guess breaching suggestions, optimizing my loadout a bit, ill take whatever

I'm still a relatively new player in this game

[spring ore]

Guys quick question
Should I spend around 16 usd more to get a gtx 1060
Or get a rx 580

[quasi coral]

Me seeing my father do something relatively bad(Sins of the father reference)

[rigid rune]

Metal Gear Solid V reference

[rigid rune]

Multiplayer or commander mode?

[latent egret]

Commander, but multiplayer tips would help as well (i havent played with anyone yet)

[rigid rune]

To be honest I wouldn't recommend use shield in commander mode, let the AI use it

AI can use shield to draw fire, perfect for S-rank run

Just remember to give them the pepper ball pistol

[latent egret]

How about for multiplayer then

[rigid rune]

Provide cover in the open and open hallway, always go first when clearing a room (also watch out for door traps just to be safe), let your teammates handle the shooting. And you can also fire your pistol near civilian to make them surrender

That's my playstyle

[torpid onyx]

wtf i cleared a door and it had no trap and I opened it fully (no bang, no trap) walked through and boom explosion

[rigid rune]

What map is it?

[torpid onyx]

ides

[latent egret]

Coolski

[rigid rune]

Balcony trap?

[torpid onyx]

some random doorway beteeen apartments

[rigid rune]

Damn

[torpid onyx]

genuinely wtf is wrong with my game I check for traps and my ai teamates I ask to check for traps, nothing then boom

mfw I get wallbanged thru a door that I didn't even peak

this is on standard too

twice I got shot thru a wall when I wasn't even making a sound bruh?

can this game let me play it in peace

[rigid rune]

USIA super veteran

[torpid onyx]

I also had some unarmoured guy not react to 3 beanbags straight to the gut and kill me too (standard, no body armour on the target)

[rigid rune]

Just flashbang him into submission

[eager panther]

Has anyone had frame rate issues on console? I played since it came out and wasn't fine but just recently I redownloaded it and me and my friends are getting like 20 frames

[torpid onyx]

man i swear I've restarted 15 times because of just dumb stuff

[storm belfry]

That's the ONE beanbag proofed guy on every mission

HE'S VERY annoying

[torpid onyx]

why the FUCK did a suspect just bark at me

[deep patio]

Was the trap on your side of the door and you didn't notice it ?

[torpid onyx]

idk I'm sure I checked the bottom and would've noticed it if it was there

[torpid onyx]

man this game slowly degrades my sanity

the ai swat will just die for the fun of it or be useless and the enemies will just gain wallhacks and aimbot sometimes or just decide to be immune to beanbags for no reason (standard) and i swear any time I get shot the enemies EXCLUSIVELY hit my head (standard)

[faint ibex]

Don’t use bean shotgun

And I wonder if stingers can explode traps

[torpid onyx]

pepperball is literally useless half the time it's the only viable less lethal

[faint ibex]

Don’t use gas

[torpid onyx]

I meant pepperball gas not cs gas

[faint ibex]

Don’t use pepperball

Use flash launcher

[torpid onyx]

I don't own the rotary 40mm

also beanbags SHOULD be working

[gilded oar]

why is the cooldown on ron-screenshots and ron-media is set to 19 min?

[faint ibex]

Kinda weird beanbags can kill with a headshot but will then do absolutely nothing to the body

[faint ibex]

Probably because someone was spamming

[gilded oar]

I see

[amber dock]

It’s only for media… shocking right? That’s why. It’s not a discussion channel but even then doesn’t stop people from using it as one

[torpid onyx]

and the single shot flash launcher is no where near as useful because regardless to using it you still have to have a less lethal gun because you don't have to time to fire a second shot since you have move forward to shout at the suspect to force a surrender and if you miss a single line of sight even if they're behind a lamp pole it'll not count as a flash

it's good yeah but it's not a solve all because of how Inconsistant flash LOS is

the rotary 40mm is OP because you cns literally just spam it

but I don't own it

[faint ibex]

How do you not own it

[torpid onyx]

i didnt buy the deluxe edition nor pre order the game

(on console)

[patent heart]

bruh solo s rank relapse took 53 min 💀

[torpid onyx]

the one time I bothered to attemp a hard S rank relapse my best run got ruined by a guy shooting himself in the head as a tasered him

[halcyon summit]

I hated doing it, took me like 20 attempts

And now i have to do it again in Ironman mode to get Platinum

[patent heart]

Prob the most difficult mission for solo no ai hard mode

Found it way harder than greased palms because suspect stress starts so high

[storm belfry]

Playing relapse gonna make me blow a fuse

[lone cloud]

got that DAWG in him

[rigid rune]

Mf, Sleeper agent archivment make me insane

I am going to shoot everyone and leave

[copper cypress]

Why are there almost no videos on YouTube of people using TRPL to get S?

[rigid rune]

Cuz it's a stinky doo doo

I only give it to AI with shield

[copper cypress]

What is the purpose of this weapon…?

[halcyon summit]

It has like 5 shots per mag

It's honestly better to just take more mags for the Pepperball rifle or bean bag shotgun

Or Grenades

[rigid rune]

How suspect look at me after I dump all the pepper ball on him with the TRPL (he's fine)

[torpid onyx]

it genuinely sucks so bad

6 shots is nothing when your stalking pepperball gas and the magazine encomomy of it is just not viable if you have to use the entire mag on a guy (even if you hit every shot you will have to use the whole mag)

[rigid rune]

Beanbag shotgun my beloved ♥️

[torpid onyx]

so being forced to waste 10 slots on mags for just your secondary is useless when if you wanna go less lethal you will just carry a less lethal primary like the AR or beanbag shotgun which are just better by all means in both effectiveness, and ammo economy

[copper cypress]

Would it be feasible for a novice player to practice controlling recoil with this weapon?

[rigid rune]

Just use an actual gun

[torpid onyx]

what is "this weapon"

do you mean the trpl

[copper cypress]

Yep

[torpid onyx]

genuinely just don't use it

get the VPL25 or beanbag shotgun

[rigid rune]

Just use semi if you can't control recoil

[torpid onyx]

and if you're a shield user it's still not viable to carry the trpl

[halcyon summit]

No, it has no recoil

[rigid rune]

The notorious 50.AE pistol:

[torpid onyx]

the Devs need to bring back taser shield

[copper cypress]

So…Is the developer's intention in launching this thing just for entertainment? lol

[rigid rune]

Clash from R6S

[rigid rune]

Troll your friends with that

[torpid onyx]

also if I'm being completely honest pepperball in general kinda sux even on standard just because like 85% of the time you'll engage a guy and instead of surrender he will just run away and now you have to deal with a suspect who's on alert with their weapon readied and is now likely holding an angle prepared for your approach

[halcyon summit]

Only time i find it useful is for the AI teammates with shields when i was doing S tier on all maps

[copper cypress]

[torpid onyx]

atleast beanbag most of the time will effective and cause them to stop on the spot and be stunned by it and are way more likely to surrender and only usually need 1 maybe 2/3 beanbags to comply (excluding idk if it's a bug but sometimes randomly some suspects just won't react which seems like a bug)
and pepperball is useless on hard unlike beanbags

[rigid rune]

G3A3 and SA58 my beloved

[calm fractal]

I use pepper ball only with AI squad because they headshot too often with bean bags lol

[torpid onyx]

yeah pepperball is just what you give to ai so they can't kill

[rigid rune]

Kill everyone and leave

[copper cypress]

I remember that in the current version, only when the player hits the suspect's head with a bean bag will the suspect die, Ai doesn’t.

[frigid haven]

Is your overall grade in your stats determined by the grade you get on missions and the difficulty there on? Because I have a ton of A's and B's, and yet my overall grade in my stats is still a D, so I'm kind of confused.

[tulip rampart]

way out west is driving me insane

i love it when unarmored suspects tank 3 body shots from JHP revolver rounds

[toxic harness]

Why JHP rounds? Just use AP

[tulip rampart]

i use both

they just tank everything period

[digital bobcat]

AP if you aim for center mass and JHP if you aim for head

I shot a priority in the head with AP and he tanked it

[simple dirge]

Guys I just beated Greased Palms, cannot believe it

[tulip rampart]

congratulations

now try to S tier it

[rich lance]

An update on being able to destroy lights with our bullets during night missions would it be possible

[amber dock]

No

Game uses baked lighting so not possible to my knowledge

[rich lance]

baked lighting ?

[amber dock]

Basically built in lighting that can’t be changed

[rich lance]

ah

[iron canopy]

When game fixed

[wide verge]

I think it basically means the light sources that cast shadows don't exist in game. It's programmed into each map by code. So you can't just switch off a light and it gets dark/shadows act accordingly

[amber dock]

Basically yes

That’s why we don’t have options like that cause it would mean devs would have to make 2 copies of one map and redo maps if they wanted to add breakable lighting

[rich lance]

it's a shame

[wide verge]

It really is. Would be awesome to switch off the power in Ides of March and go in there with nods

[distant steeple]

Nah cuz why is it so HARD to find that last civillian in any mission 💔

[iron canopy]

Because they run away then swing back to run at you

[distant steeple]

I was in that club mission

And i was walking around for 30 minutes straight cuz you cant run

And i didnt find the last one so i Just gave up

[tulip rampart]

ok i'm onto sinuous trail with my Hermit achievement

so far riot shields and nutritionist have been carrying my ass

[whole plume]

It could be they failed to spawn, that has occurred on me a few times

[distant steeple]

Makes sense

[deep patio]

They can fail to spawn ? What ?

[whole plume]

Yep, Buggy or Yes makes it so key people/Civs occasionally just straight dont spawn in

[deep patio]

So what you're telling me is that Quadamah could straight up not spawn and I'm just left there wandering around ?

Oh great 💀

[verbal meteor]

is the i'm too old for this achievement currently broken/bugged?

[amber dock]

Broken in the way that it might take multiple attempts for it to track the map

The criteria I’ve found is that you have to at the very least finish all main objectives on the map. If one is red meaning you failed one main obj it won’t count

[verbal meteor]

ahh, makes more sense

[chilly thorn]

Would yall rather have it with got more updates like once every 2-3 months and it was just one map

I feel like that would be nice

[unique smelt]

i've beaten "thank you, come again" and gotten S like 3 times and it still just says A

[covert aurora]

Means one of your suspects died.

[unique smelt]

yeah but it says S on the score screen just not mission select

[covert aurora]

No idea then.

[sharp bridge]

that's because the game is very balanced and with no exploits

[gloomy marsh]

the game will showcase the ‘most difficult’ rank - it will display an A on Hard over an S on Standard
perhaps that is your issue

[unique smelt]

ohhhh that makes sense

tysm

[gloomy marsh]

no worries

[worldly ridge]

Tried Relapse.... I needed to kill my entire SWAT team in anger to solo it and complete the mission

The AI was compleletly useless in the previous 4 cases

Not only useless, an active detriment as they managed to kill a civilian

[raw gale]

Are we going to wait a year for an update again ?

There are game breaking bugs sur as suspects getting stuck under fences preventing me from completing missions with S rank

[worldly ridge]

Yes

[jolly verge]

Yes

[amber dock]

Aspid apperance

[fickle idol]

Refund. Not worth your time at all rn

[faint saddle]

Getting fed up with trying to non-lethal some of these missions, so I’ve given my AI team a bunch of door wedges and extra beanbag ammo, and I’ve equipped myself with a flash launcher and 11 flashbangs.

These Mindjot perps are gonna be blind and deaf by the time I’m done with them.

[lean edge]

Legendary advice

[fickle idol]

It's the best I can give. Especially when there's a truck load of other games that are worth the time rn.

[lean edge]

I know bro...
I uninstalled the game. Too many annoying bugs were driving me crazy. I'm just waiting for them to fix it before I install it again

If they ever fix it… which I highly doubt, lol

[faint ibex]

Why are there so many bugs if this game has been out for so long

Atleast graphics are great

[lean edge]

Graphics can be peak, but when every player’s suffering from bugs it’s just not worth it

[faint ibex]

And some pretty bad lag

[faint saddle]

Mission Update: It worked, and I’m kind of mad that it did.

[faint ibex]

Though most bugs are minor, just that they happen every game

[valid rover]

Well done?

[faint saddle]

… Question. What armor has the most inventory space?

[amber dock]

Stab vest

[valid rover]

Stab vest

[faint saddle]

I see…

[valid rover]

I think

[lean edge]

At first I thought the same as you, but I personally ran into stuff that was actually painful to deal with. And that’s not even counting the bugs other players are reporting. Just take a look at the bug report section and you’ll see the disaster yourself

[faint ibex]

Stab vest seems useless, but I have actually been stabbed a couple of times

[faint ibex]

The worst I’ve seen is crashes

[jolly verge]

It's does not protect from melee weapons

[faint ibex]

Not more than other armor? I’d still imagine you take 2 stabs to die

No armor you’d probably die in one stab

[jolly verge]

Each stab deal 50 damage and always apply bleeding, you have 160 health

So 3 stab and 4 seconds to die from bleed

If you stop the bleed you can tank another stab

[spiral tundra]

Just pray you get stabbed in the chest
Which is never

[faint ibex]

The amount of people who sprint at me who are actually civilians pisses me off

Anyone with a gun or anyone that runs is gonna get shot

Too many times people on their knees get back up

[worldly ridge]

Just headcanon is as the suspect stabbing you in places which the vest does not protect. Armpit, etc.

But yea, it's basically "no ballistic protection for more slots"

[faint ibex]

This game has too much nonsense to expect not to be shot at all

[spiral tundra]

Yeah
I’ve never been stabbed in the chest
Only arm

And the occasional leg

[worldly ridge]

Just like shots then, I guess 😄 Suspects somehow have a perfect aim against my legs and arms even in heavy armor

[fickle idol]

Graphics are the biggest waste of time for indie production.

They only needed to make it look decdent enough.

But by my judgement they sacrificed everything including ai to accomplish the visual fedelity

[fickle idol]

Also it's sill that suspects can shoot in less than half a second when not being aware of you prior

There needs to be an implemented tree of behaviours based on situations and player actions

Say you kick down a door.

The enemy should panic, take a moment to get good footing than raise, aim, and shoot.

[faint saddle]

Can confirm, for those earlier, that the Stab Vest does allow for the most inventory slots at 15.

[iron canopy]

That's why it's constantly broken?

[worn idol]

graphics are a major part of a game

Graphics will make or break a game bro.

[iron canopy]

Silksong is peak

[worn idol]

Ima be real, I’m at well over 100 hours now. Only bug I get is the one off not being able to detain someone

[golden shale]

what specs are reccommended for max graphics

[fickle idol]

Graphics can.

But only if they interfere with the experience.

[lofty grove]

Anyone know how tf the health system works?

[ripe bloom]

Am I the only who gets high latency when I join anyone’s server. I’m on ps5 but no matter if I join someone in America or United Kingdom it’s the same. Always chilling around 200.

[ripe bloom]

Armour works how it works irl so if you wear full armour it will cover you in the places where armour is placed and add resilience depending on what plates you use (steel, ceramic etc)

[golden shale]

if you get shot your shoot someone they got hurt

[fickle idol]

Also I really wish I could just skip the score board or have a button to restart the mission from failure screen

[royal otter]

yall, im a ps5 player, why cant I move my cam while the command wheel is open? do I gotta change any keybinds or settings?

[royal otter]

same here, always around 180

[nimble bough]

is the bug where the entire team doesnt stick together known?

like they dont all move together when clearing, it was just 1 dude... 💀

[quaint pond]

can suspects hear you yell for compliance?

[tulip valve]

Depends on where they are, but I think so

Anyone know why the game doesnt let me go with no armour? I used to be able to but not anymore for some reason. Might be a mod I have

[quaint pond]

i should clarify when not being yelled at which lets them know where you are like gunshots or loud breaching tools

[tulip valve]

Yeah, if you yell for compliance at someone else and a suspect is nearby they should be able to hear

[quaint pond]

btw is mirrorgun on team ai good or nah?

[nimble bough]

yeah i think so too, which is quite odd i wonder why they dont have quieter lines

like when moving in they yell "MOVING!" instead of whispering it into comms or tapping their shoulder etc

[tulip valve]

They could tell you some things you might not notice so yeah

[tulip valve]

yeah same, but oh well 🤷

[quaint pond]

because if it was quiet they probably would be less likely to comply

but the option for both would be good

like quiet if its a civ and loud if a suspect has fired shots already

[tulip valve]

it could probably be quietly said but still tense, but if it means you have to bap the civ or suspect a bit over letting the entirety of the enemy team know you're there i'd take that

[quaint pond]

oh also are flashbangs and stingers good? i heard theyre just downgrades from cs gas

[tulip valve]

not exactly downgrades, they just act quicker than cs gas

compliance wise they all work the same ig

[quaint pond]

yeah thats def not worth the stun duration difference

its like at most 1 second of deploy time difference

[tulip valve]

imo CS gas definitely takes slower, and that can very much be life or death in this game

[quaint pond]

i mean you shouldnt go in until it goes off and if youre waiting at the door you should be watching the door

ig theres enemies sneaking up behind you

but that doesnt happen to me a lot

[tulip valve]

different experiences ig, usually loadouts are more of a personal choice, so just choose what you like in there

[quaint pond]

yeah true it doesnt make a lot of difference until hard difficulty (i assume i havent played it)

unless your loadout is absolutely garbage

[latent hatch]

yo

[quaint pond]

yo

[latent hatch]

why does it say connection to host timed out

[quaint pond]

because the connection to host timed out

[latent hatch]

🤔🤔

[terse quail]

does finishing any mission on hard overwrite completion stats regardless of score? ie, i S ranked every mission on standard but if i complete one on hard and get a B, which score will i see?

[grave crown]

yes

hard overwrites it

[azure charm]

This question has been asked several times, but no answer was ever given. It is possible to reset career stats? Deleting the save doesn’t help, it just pulls the info from somewhere on the server or I don’t know where. I even did a full steam cloud wipe.

[nimble bough]

are you able to change the voice of your commander or nah?

like is there different presets or anything

[terse quail]

wack

[storm belfry]

Like the guy who your playing?

Cause in multi-player you can change character and use different voices for your character but in command and quick match you're stuck with Judge

[quasi coral]

I think instead of red all over your screen, your vision should just become blurry

Depending on where you're shot, of course

[toxic swallow]

is "bash" just melee?

[fringe gate]

ye

[toxic swallow]

k

[narrow plank]

for Hard it's roughly 1-2 seconds to react to suspects getting flashed after that it's shooting time

[fallow dome]

get out

te amo

dady balls

[toxic swallow]

i did hide and seek using only flash bang nades and taser and didnt get the achievement

some of these either make no sense or need to be fixed

[torpid onyx]

mfw CS gas didn't effect a suspect who was 4 feet from the canister in an enclosed apartment
(standard difficulty)

no coughing, no reaction, didn't even try avoid it he took it like a man and didn't get distracted

the Devs literally made CS gas cosmetic

[faint saddle]

I’m at the end of my rope here, gang, trying to do Vally of the Dolls non-lethal is murder. 😭

[toxic swallow]

i just s-ranked it with some frens lol

[faint saddle]

I’m so happy for you. ;w;

But genuinely, how did y’all go about it? I’ve been trying to isolate and take each floor separately, cause trying to do it in one go from the top floor down just ain’t been working.

The ground floor is murder cause of the pool patio outside, the guards just LOVE to riddle you through the glass. The second floor, I try to steer clear of that walkway as much as possible. The patio is fine, but it’s basically AI vs AI to see who can come out on top in the open space.

[toxic swallow]

use the flash grenade launcher

op

[faint saddle]

I only have the tactical version.

[toxic swallow]

everyone has it

[faint saddle]

Yeah, I only have the single-shot version. That’s got like, five rounds, at most.

[toxic swallow]

that works

[faint saddle]

Alright well that aside, I think I’ve discovered the benefits of a human shield? I picked up one of Voll’s security guards to move him out of the line of fire, only to come face to face with another guard around the corner—and he seemed hesitant to shoot me?

This has happened twice now, and I think I may have found a very unethical way to keep people’s fire off of me.

[torpid onyx]

man the CS gas nerf/bug is so annoying it literally just doesn't work anymore sometiems

no matter what they just won't react to it

I remember when it used to be actually good 🥀

[lean edge]

🤣🤣🤦🏻‍♂️

[quasi coral]

Honestly

Sims of the father feels like the most enjoyable mission, personally

Not only is it well optimized while maintaining the very very nice atmosphere, it has everything, besides long range combat

I haven't had my ai bug here on doors as well

[lean edge]

agree i really like it too

[sonic copper]

Hello,
What's new with Ready or Not? The last briefing was on June 27, 2025.

Best regards,
Hilli

[quasi coral]

Indeed, truly one of the maps of all time

[wary dock]

hey guys i have been away from the game for a while i logged in today and saw that the mods menu has changed and almost all the mods have been deleted

is this cause of the latest update for the consoles ?

cause there were a lot of maps that i havent played and i wanted to 🙁

[slim slate]

does anyone have some good looking vests in black and MC?

i found some before but they either crash my game, textures don't work or they look bad

[sharp pecan]

When you use the RB trigger on xbox to give commands to your ai teammates how dl you actually select something? I've done the training but I just don't understand how you select something. Do you just flick the left joystick to it then release or what.

[torpid onyx]

to go into a further menu you have to release your stick on the option then to make a final selection you have to let go of the bumper while pointing the wheel at the command,
but don't use the command wheel it is literally garbage, go into settings and use command list

it also makes it so you can move and aim while selecting options

and also change your tactical wheel selection stick to right stick not left stick so you can move while going thru your tacticals/checking helmet cams

@sharp pecan

[sharp pecan]

Thanks

Will give it a shot ASAP

[sharp pecan]

@torpid onyx yea thanks its way better

[torpid onyx]

yeah there's a reason everybody uses list

[jade sparrow]

As I thought, on standard difficulty I found wire traps on Carriers of the Vine and Dorms, even though MMMM’s paper doesn’t indicate them

I think they’re really rare but they’re still present, how it works is I believe on Carriers they can only spawn in the basement cause I’ve only ever seen them there, on Dorms so far I’ve only seen one upstairs around where the little drug altar is at

It’s weird cause TOC doesn’t tell you the premises are trapped upon entering, but yeah on Dorms I should say of 20 gameplay I’ve only seen them in one, but they were there!!
On carriers I’ve seen them already I don’t think they’re too rare they’re just only in the basement I think

[amber dock]

If you have Ai mods or host has Ai mods they can secretly add traps to maps without TOC lines because it’s not default and modified

[jade sparrow]

Oh wait could that be gunfighter?

Cause only mods I have are gunfighter, visceral blood and the rest I think are just cosmetic items

Asset mod loader and mod blueprint + console

[amber dock]

Cause I am very confident in that standard difficulty only adds traps to Ridgeline,brisa cove and Sins of the father

[jade sparrow]

Those are the mods I have but I should mention I saw traps on carriers of the vine even before Dark Waters, and it would make sense for that map to have traps since it’s part of the same storyline as all those maps there

Would kinda make sense for Dorms too since they’re (or look like) vets(?)

[amber dock]

It would be a very weird thing to suddenly do since standard is supposed to be default difficulty so adding traps to more maps wouldn’t make sense. Also devs rarely change maps once they’ve been released besides just performance fixes.

So I am very confident in that it’s a mod of some sort

[jade sparrow]

Yeah if they have traps they were there before
They changed maps too like Rust Belt now having traps as well

*not having traps

It did before

And if it’s a mod it’s gotta be some random ass cosmetic mod that also does that for some reason

[amber dock]

If you play MP public matches it’s easier then to happen cause host could be running a whole hard drive of mods that do some weird funky stuff. But in SP it’s more a hidden mod or sum

[jade sparrow]

Nope single player only lol

SWAT AI only XD

I’ll look into my files and see if I have a mod there that does something with traps, but I’m decently sure some time ago I died to CotV traps on vanilla (safe mode)

[amber dock]

The fact that TOC doesn’t mention it makes me even more sure it’s mod related

One way to test it out is to run game on safe mode and run the maps you claim to have seen traps on and also make sure you’re on Standard difficulty and see

[jade sparrow]

I will

[torpid onyx]

man how is it always the last suspects who are always John wick

Ill go the entire map without a single enemy shooting me then boom John wick here just 1 taps me before I even clear the corner despite the fact he wasn't even alerted

and I hate how Inconsistant the flash is because sometimes there will be a guy who's literally behind an indoor lamp pole or something and he just won't react to a flashbang literally right next to him and then you walk in and he just instantly shoots you in your crome dome with a 9mm SMG and 1 taps you despite the fact it's standard and you have a helmet and ballsitic mask

guy proceeds to ignore 3 beanbags to the chest and kill me with a 9mm SMG in like 4 shots:

glorious

my armour is genuinely cosmetic

[stray loom]

i have a decent PC. but for some reason, for ready or not specifically, i lag like crazy. my latency is constantly 300-1000 in multiplater, and the load screens take like 5 minutes. im on the lowest graphics settings. does anyone know how to fix this?

[amber dock]

Latency has nothing to do with pc specs

[torpid onyx]

i just got one tapped by an SMG through an opaque door while arresting a guy and somehow it managed to avoid my helmet and plate carrier and hit me in the neck while bent down

also please why do some suspects just get wallhacks and kill you through walls

[stray loom]

oh. well how do i fix it then

[torpid onyx]

my ai teamates are also cosmetic how did they manage to not hit a single pepperball on a guy 10 meters Infront of them yet every one of them unloaded literally their entire magazine

man I give up for the day

no matter what happens it's some BS like
guy wallbangs me
I/teamate gets 1 tapped by SMG
ai teamates just don't shoot or aim properly or manage to make a guy surrender and just die for no reason
try to clear a room but an enemy managed to put a pencil Infront of his eyes to avoid getting flashed and then just murks either me or my team in 1 shot
random enemy comes absolutely SPRINTING and with his gun down absolutely wrecks me or my team for no reason
enemy ignores my beanbag rounds as if I never fired them and just kills me because yipeeee consistant bugs

this is on standard*

and the enemies randomly just unloading through a wall into you are a consistant issue like how can you see me I'm not even making noise either

[autumn owl]

Zero word on updates to fix trash Ai but hey...at least they releasing trash merch no one asked for

[tepid tulip]

yeah, there are people begging for snow camo on general 😄

[copper cypress]

Does anyone know how much damage per second the gas from the pepper ball does?

[sharp pecan]

Do you have more tips or anything?

[amber dock]

Pinned document has that info I belive but it’s very low like extremely low

[lapis tartan]

it could not...

[verbal meteor]

can i still get the hermit achievement with mods on?

or the ironman achievement in general

[amber dock]

Oui

Mods don’t affect anything regarding achievements or unlocks

[verbal meteor]

okaaa tyy

[jolly verge]

Same as cs gas, 0.2 per seconds

[gray zealot]

bro i cant S rank shit because of my fucking ai team

[gentle juniper]

You need a group of friends.

Ai is trash.

I cleared S rank on all missions and DLC with a group of buddies.

@gray zealot **

[full wave]

Glad to see everyone else is having issue with AI teammates and their constant BS they tend to do

[tepid tulip]

Meh, it's not that bad

[torpid onyx]

me asking an ai teamate to throw a flashbang though a doorway on the ground Infront of the doorway Infront of us and instead my teammate decides to go running Into the room gun down, takes a 90° turn to the left and walks into another room and gets shot by a guy and doesn't even fight back

and my 4 ai teammates shooting a collective 100 pepperalls at one guy 10 meters Infront of us and wiffing all 100 shots

[tepid tulip]

it's probably a graphic/model glitch, where bullets or pepper pew pews not reaching destination

[full wave]

I mean it depends on what you're making them do that tends to get annoying, like making them try and clear a room and they just do it unsuccessfully or them not following you after a previous action

[tepid tulip]

I just press Z whenever they finish last action

[full wave]

Im assuming that's your fall in command?

[tepid tulip]

Isnt it a shortcut in default for that?

[torpid onyx]

also something super annoying is when your swat team ai just starts screaming for no reason at a guy who's in another room that you can't even see so they end up causing the guy to raise his gun and go alert and run to cover and prepare for us to enter rather then be unprepared where he would've surrendered if we had close proximity and line of sight as we yelled

and you can't control their yelling

[tepid tulip]

same, glitch/model bug. Bot sees the enemy/civilian, but from your perspective he's acting crazy

[torpid onyx]

yeah but he doesn't actually see the guy because the guy is enclosed in a room without windows

[full wave]

Maybe? Because I play on console so the prompts there whenever I play the campaign or solo quick play

[tepid tulip]

Yeah, it's default on PC

[full wave]

Felt that, hearing them yelling at someone you can't even see or notice yet which just causes more personal panic on where the supposed suspect is

[torpid onyx]

I swear there's some spots on all the maps where there's like holes in the hidden map geometry that don't appear in the fully rendered scene so it means your ai teamates/the enemy can see you and that's why magically my team will start yelling at a guy thru a wall or an enemy will suddenly just enable wallhacks and shoot me though a wall

[full wave]

Noted

[tepid tulip]

if you'd turn this whole scene from the engine perspective, there's probably a bug in the mesh or something, where bot while looking around spotted the area of interest and reacting to it.

It's a bug, just report it if you care

[full wave]

Weirdly though I've never had the wall hack issues, just the suspects being alert to my presence or already opening fire at me and my units

At least not yet

[tepid tulip]

I've got few, I know what he's talking about

[torpid onyx]

it's like a consistant issue for me where I'll just get periodically lit up through a wall for no seeming reason while I'm doing whatever

also why do enemies sometimes just shoot for the fun of it

[full wave]

Do you mean like they're just shooting at ghosts shooting??

Cause I think I know what you're talking about

[torpid onyx]

like sometimes I'll be in a map and across the entire map I'll hear an enemy just unload into nothing

[tepid tulip]

they can shoot civilians

in specific missions ofc

[full wave]

Ok, yeah, shooting at ghosts, I've had that; personally I find it kinda funny in a quick play setting because they're just being stupid while we're not even close

[torpid onyx]

but a civi won't die or anything

[tepid tulip]

the school for example

[tepid tulip]

maybe they miss too 😄

[full wave]

Unfortunately those shooters are actually trying to finish the job so to speak

[torpid onyx]

Ive had it happen quite a few times in the server mission (sinuous trail) since thats what I was Tryna do an S rank on (and I know the suspect's don't shoot civies on that mission)

[tepid tulip]

Well yeah, but he didn't mention the scenario, so we can only assume it was there

[full wave]

Yeah I can understand where that can make things difficult if the shooting at ghosts alerts everyone else and makes non-lethal almost useless when they're ready for you

[torpid onyx]

and then suddenly you edge around a corner and get capped in the head by some guy with an mp9 despite having a helmet and ballsitic mask on

[full wave]

Yeah but with how the map and scenario is set up it's safe to assume those shooters specifically will target civilians if we take too long to find and down(or arrest if they surrender ig) them; we had moments where we can hear them targeting civilians so we can't wait around and shit

[tepid tulip]

true

[full wave]

Because far as I've seen they rarely grab a hostage

Unlike other missions

[torpid onyx]

I also swear that the ballsitics mask and helmet is cosmetic because the sheer amount of times I'll get 1 tapped in the head by pistol calibers makes me think they're not just hitting me in the glasses EVERY time because surely not every enemy is that much of a nut on standard

[full wave]

Ouch, happened last night with friends, I didn't even get to blink

[vast grotto]

this pisses me off and ruins my night

[full wave]

I wonder if suspect calibers do have to come into play though, just disregarding difficulty for a moment here, because I've had really rare cases where my helmet did save me but holy shit my vision was fucked up for a few moments too, like a concussion effect from being hit by a smaller caliber

[tepid tulip]

I don't know if you're old enough to remember swat3/4, but man... THERE was issues. This? Is a walk in the park.

[tepid tulip]

I'm using only 7.62 caliber. Not have time to screw around. Lower calibers are waste of time here.

[torpid onyx]

I know the ballsitics mask specifically addresses saying smth like "won't stop rifle calibers but has the capability to stop pistol calibers" or smth along those lines

[full wave]

The suspect weapons calibers, my friend lol
But honestly valid caliber to use

[full wave]

It does yes, I like running it but idk if it's been limiting my commands to suspects or not via muffling

[torpid onyx]

but also at the same time i swear the suspect's damage gets buffed compared to yours because sometimes idk how the enemies kill me so fast unless they are just always hitting headshots on their final hit

cos the amount of times pistol caliber suspects kill me in a couple shots is too many
(light ceramic plates+helmet+mask)

compared to me shooting a plate carrier suspect like 13 times with AP 9mm and him still not being dead or like 12 times on an unarmoured suspect with 5.7 AP

and I know how many times I shot them in those instances because I was taking my time with my pistol as shield guy and they didn't wanna go down

[full wave]

Mhm, and that's where I was gonna say I think some weapons suspects have will completely destroy us if not careful dealing with them and why I mentioned disregarding difficulty for a moment; Cause I have moments where I get hit but the plate catches some heavy rounds or pistol rounds, my helmet catching probably a small caliber round cause I doubt I can take multiple helmet hits from larger rounds lol. I wanna think higher calibers have more obvious lethality against us and smaller calibers have a lesser lethality against us, giving us a breathing room to kill or whatever needs to be done

But if we now go back to difficulty? Im unable to assume if calibers on suspects even matter

[jagged quartz]

When i use pistols suspects take ages to go down but kill me in 2-3 hits all the time

[full wave]

I just a do a full auto into them if I'm dealing with plate carrier suspects shooting at me, not the smartest move but I ain't taking chances single firing

[jagged quartz]

Gotta fucking mag dump half a clip into them for them just to be staggered

[tepid tulip]

I'm using heaviest vest and has no problems like that so far, higher difficulty levels might change that

[lean gate]

The ai in stolen valor move like satoru gojo and the navy seals combined. Bruddie these are RANDOM THUGS ON AN APARTMENT BLOCK. WE ARE SWAT OFFICERS

[full wave]

Unfortunately yes, how I usually do it best I can describe in text is I do a burst of full auto into them, if they stagger I'll try yelling at them to give up but if they get ready to aim I just finish the job with another burst

[full wave]

They possibly will since heavier vests slow ya down some as the game states, I only used it during greased palms because Christ alive I hate that map

[jagged quartz]

Yeah imo you really dont need the heaviest vest for like 95% of situations. Just slows you down

[tepid tulip]

I'll start worrying when I get there 🙂

[full wave]

Same, I'm still finishing the campaign on standard, when I do Im gonna try it on hard and probably lose my sanity lol

[tepid tulip]

haha... "I'll see you, when you get there... if you ever get there..."

[jagged quartz]

Good luck, I've gotta do 4 more missions of hard before I've completed all of them. It's definitely a struggle haha

[full wave]

That doesn't give me a lot of encouragement hahah! Especially since I do try and keep my other units alive by taking point because God forbid they even do their own jobs right taking point

[jagged quartz]

Oh hard I generally just get the ai ro clear like 80% of rooms. You won't keep all of them alive for a lot of the levels haha. In hard mode the ai tends to be like john wick a lot of the time

[tepid tulip]

All those clothes, ballistics, and they die often. Weird, huh?

[jagged quartz]

The amount of times I've been fully armoured up and then the ai drop me in a nanosecond makes me question if the police force got ripped off at wherever they get the armour from

[full wave]

Mhm, that's why I don't bother to aim for anything higher than an A or B depending on the mission

Because they usually just kill suspects that I didn't see

[jagged quartz]

Yeah i don't really care about rank unless I'm going for an s rank

[full wave]

Exactly

I'm not good with S ranking without my friends lol, I'm too trigger happy on other missions I've done lethal on

[tepid tulip]

never reached S

But I'm glad that overall it's not a game when you have to pay additional money for extra missions. Oh wait.

[jolly verge]

Heavy vest doesn't not slow you down

[vast grotto]

it doesnt?

[tepid tulip]

It does i guess

[amber dock]

it simply takes longer to reach max speed compared to light vest but doesn't make you any slower once you reach top speed

[jolly verge]

Only plates affects acceleration speed, movement speed is the same regardless of armor and plates type

[full wave]

No?

[tepid tulip]

Otherwise what would benefit wearing light vest?

[amber dock]

more slots

[full wave]

I thought the game said wearing a heavier vest made ya slower, unless I'm mixing up the plates?

[amber dock]

it simply make you take longer to reach top speed

[jolly verge]

0.48 seconds to gain top speed without armor or with only kevlar
0.56 seconds with full coverage ceramic
1.04 seconds with full coverage steel

[vast grotto]

right

[tepid tulip]

I say steel is the way to go, always 😄

It's not a payday2, where you can run like hell sending bullets 360 degrees around ya 😄

[full wave]

True

[gentle juniper]

Steel is terrible imo. I always run light / ceramic. Balanced overall. Unless you're gun blazing. Then I guess steel. But even in a bad situation. I find light Armour and ceramic, the best.

[deep patio]

Y'all do I need a specific grade for the Hermit Challenge on each mission or do I just need to resolve them aka get better than an F and bring order to chaos

[amber dock]

You need C grade minimum on last map for it to pop correctly

[sharp pecan]

Anyone have any tips for me as a new player?

[amber dock]

any map before that just needs to be resolved which involves doing all main OBJs

[tepid tulip]

What do you mean other than gunblazing? What's other than GUNBLAZING in RoN 😄

Must be some secret option I guess 😛

Some undiscovered mode

[deep patio]

Alright just a C minimum for Hide And Seek good

Thanks !

[tepid tulip]

Is Hide and Seek the last mission in the campaign?

[storm belfry]

Crazyyyy

[amber dock]

Of the base game yes

[storm belfry]

I won't say nothin

[tepid tulip]

Cool

[storm belfry]

@amber dock suspects can't break a shield right?

[jolly verge]

Nope, but after 50 hits window will be cracked so you wont see much

[storm belfry]

sometimes I feel like the pelting of 7.62 ends up making my shield break and my body getting turned to Swiss cheese

[storm belfry]

NO WONDER! Every time I played relapse and walked cross doors with my shield the glass just gets absolutely shattered

[tepid tulip]

Is there any activity at the Police Station except armory, shooting range and mission room?

[storm belfry]

Go downstairs and you can find a test dummy guy

[amber dock]

coffee machine,pong game arcade machine

[jolly verge]

Shooting civilian

[faint ibex]

You can shoot people inside the training rooms

[tepid tulip]

Wow...

[summer ferry]

Wait what

[void jasper]

Just had a pretty good run on greased palms got killed by literally the LAST guy lol

[gray zealot]

ik i got 1 friend but hes first gonna buy when it goes on winter sale

[gentle juniper]

Ooo

[sharp pecan]

Anyone have tips for me as a new player

[candid bobcat]

shoot the suspects not the civilians

[sharp pecan]

Thanks....

[candid bobcat]

so you are spetznaz

[sharp pecan]

You basically saying that like to say drive on tbe road not the sidewalk

No yo saying drive both on the road AND sidewalk

[candid bobcat]

i’m horrible at the game too gng 🥀

it indeed is

[sharp pecan]

Then why say something stupid

[thick verge]

does anyone know how to make ai teamates pie a door? i somehow made judge say "pie the door" but i died shortly after

[sleek hornet]

I saw something on my PlayStation about an update did they fix the bug when you try to start a multiplayer friends only game it will sometimes just not work?

[stoic thistle]

If you're using the beanbag shotgun for non-lethal runs, don't aim for the head.

[gentle juniper]

They do not pie

They simply breach and tactical L, into a room. Of you want a door pied, you have to do that yourself.

Or run with me and my buddies. We room clear like seal team 6

[storm kernel]

I'm a beginner. Are there meta weapons?

[toxic harness]

M32a1

[storm kernel]

real?

[toxic harness]

Yes

M32a1 is my wife for Non Lethal runs

[storm kernel]

okay

[toxic harness]

If you don't have it, you didn't own the Deluxe edition or you're not on PC

[storm kernel]

👍

[gentle juniper]

The 40 Mike Mike is my princess.

*Flashbang, flashbang, flashbang

[short crow]

Guys when i use the command wheel and i select door it doesn't show options do i have to press smth

[toxic harness]

You're in Training?

[short crow]

No finished it

[tepid tulip]

Guys, does your GPU's catching high temp while playing this game?

Cause my is sky rocketing

Gotta open my PC from a side for better cooling

[sharp pecan]

Why's that?

[whole plume]

Itll kill them

Blunt force trauma to the head

[sharp pecan]

Yea no shit

I was being sarcastic

[whole plume]

Haha sorry I am too Autistic to tell 😂

[sharp pecan]

Na its alright

[stoic thistle]

Pepperball guns and flashbangs won't kill suspects, even if you hit them in the head.

[whole plume]

Yeah, You'll run out of ammo before you kill even one guy with those things

[gray zealot]

whats the lore behind sinious trail

feels like a really random level

[toxic harness]

It's connected to the whole Spider operation where the servers has "pizza" (you can check it's mission description)

[reef haven]

Hi people. So I'm new. I finally bought the game and was gonna play solo. I'm on PS5. I went to do the tutorial and I'm having issues with the command wheel. I issue the command but it doesn't do anything. I end up having to do the command 3 or 4 times before the game recognizes it which is a major pain in the arse when trying to clear rooms. Anyone have a fix or workaround that could help?

[toxic harness]

Just get used to it if you want to keep the wheel, but you can change it to a list by going to settings, controller settings and see Command Menu type

[gray zealot]

is it also connected with the valley of the dolls cp?

[toxic harness]

Yes. and 23MB a Second since you see that Mindjoy logo on his computer

[reef haven]

Oh I can get rid of the wheel altogether and just have "fall in" "clear" ect on a macro with the PS5 controller?

I have no DLC just basic game. Usually buy dlc after I'm used to it

[toxic harness]

You won't be able to get rid of the wheel but you can choose the quick actions like if you look at the door, you can have a set of commands like Fall in, Hold, or Open and Clear

[reef haven]

Where do I do that? Controller settings I'm assuming?

[toxic harness]

Game settings. I suggest explore the whole settings menu

[reef haven]

Is there a way to macro to a keyboard and have it run simultaneously with my controller?

[reef haven]

Just curious

Fml lol I know I shouldn't have switched from PC 😂😭

I'm a new PS5 player. I've always been PC

[toxic harness]

The support will come later tho cuz of high demand

[reef haven]

I hope so! From what I've seen of the game it looks super awesome and I'm really excited to play it. It's just a pain in the butt when I can't even finish the tutorial because of bugs. And I've noticed a lot of people running into the same issue. So I guess I'm going to just try to set the commands to different button combos and hope for the best and keep an eye out on patches

[faint saddle]

Missed opportunity to not have us be able to wear a suit of some kind, Dirty Harry style, but I understand why. I imagine it could also be confusing on certain maps, like Sins of the Father.

[toxic harness]

The wheel menu is not bugged but it's a bit confusing for folks who are not used to the wheel selection on controller

[reef haven]

Oh it's not like that for me. I've literally got the wheel down Pat. It just doesn't recognize the command until I do it four times in a row. It's not very hard to release a button to select lmao but I have to repeat the action alot to get it to accept it.

Works fine when selecting grenades and all that but when issuing commands to the team I have to do it a few times

[toxic harness]

That is unless you put it in queue lol

[reef haven]

Lmao maybe I should put it in queue 😂

[wraith pawn]

Dude the ai is so fucking stupid

At the very end of hide and seek my whole team watches me get lit up and just stands there doing nothing

[tulip rampart]

i'm uninstalling this fuckass game

[reef haven]

Lol good luck getting a refund.😂

[tulip rampart]

just got lasered to death on valley of the dolls on my Hermit save

that trophy is literally unachievable

[wraith pawn]

Just dashboard before the score pops up

[tulip rampart]

too late im alr back in the menu

[gray zealot]

replaying it right now

theres someone texting on the pc with initials "A.V"

isnt that alex voll from valley of the dolls

[toxic harness]

Amos Voll.

Yes

[tulip rampart]

next time i see amos im shooting him in the head

actually even if he surrenders i'm gonna cuff then shoot him

[toxic harness]

STOP BREAKING ROE

[storm belfry]

No no, it was justified, he CLEARLY had a gun and was faking his surrender!

[gray zealot]

are the mothers (which i assume they are) in the spider level aware they are making their kids do cp or whatever

[modest hare]

Any new on any DLC toll

Will we get anymore

[storm belfry]

Most of them are incredibly desperate and don't know entirely what is going on but the contracts they sign do say that the main guy on the map (forgot his name) gets full rights over the kid and their likeness. Then again, most of them are insanely desperate and just think that this will help get their kid into like Hollywood instead of the how they live in complete poverty

[gray zealot]

ew

so fucked up

[storm belfry]

After all, it's a "talent agency"

Personally I started run running everything on hard and full lethal

Got S rank on Relapse and ran it back like we're Seal Team Six

[spiral tundra]

Dude

I was playing with a group earlier and we were NOT taking anything seriously
-# we started executing everyone on neon, we may be the real terrorists

We went on relapse hard and we were shooting every civ cuz fun
I shot a civ with a bomb vest accidentally and blew the whole team up

[vestal mauve]

oh my fucking god
WHERE is the PATCH

[toxic harness]

Not sure

[modest hare]

That’s not not good

People should communicate and work as a team

[twilit torrent]

holy moly i get so excited when there’s an announcement thinking it’s a patch…

[spiral tundra]

We were

[noble pasture]

Is RoN fixing it's stuff yet?

[spiral tundra]

We did a couple S ranks beforehand to get everyone the Hawaiian

(When I say everyone I mean 1 person)

Then we just went Rambo for the fun of it

[royal otter]

wsp yall, im a ps5 player, can anyone else not move the camera while the command wheel is open? do I gotta change any keybinds or settings or is it a bug?

[spiral tundra]

I recommend just changing to list

[royal otter]

I have

[modest hare]

Ok 😂

[spiral tundra]

We don’t negotiate with terrorists or civilians

[faint saddle]

“You just shot an innocent civilian!”
“Innocent?” Judge asks, taking a puff of his e-cigarette. “There are no innocents. Not in this city. Not anymore…”

[tulip rampart]

i've discovered that hard mode is in fact, hard

there is no more apprehending suspects alive...too dangerous. shoot on sight. doesn't violate ROE right?

[spiral tundra]

When I was doing hard relapse on rambo mode I saw a hostage
It was in a dark area so I couldn’t see the hostage had a bomb vest
I exploded from like 10 metres away

[deep patio]

It feels like I'm getting trolled 💀

[tulip rampart]

i'm never trying to get the hermit achievement again 😭 it has taken a serious toll on my mental health

[faint saddle]

“Today’s innocents? Are just tomorrow’s suspects…”
“Chief, I think you’ve had too much.”
“AND I DON’T THINK I’VE HAD ENOUGH!”

[tulip rampart]

exactly

i beat greased palms first try in my ironman save without losing any officers, then on the next mission: all suspects are down. only thing left is arrest Voll. i find him, he surrenders. as i move to cuff, he actively transforms into john wick and shoots my face. i die. i seriously consider throwing my playstation out of the window. i don't. i come on discord and question wtf i'm doing. please send help.

ahaha

ahahhahahahahahaha

[faint saddle]

Really though, how fucked do you have to be to accept a nickname like “Judge” as an LEO? What, were “Jury” and “Executioner” taken already?

[tulip rampart]

nahh, we need an officer named "Dredd"

because that's who i'm gonna be in every future run of VotD

[faint saddle]

He has a 1 in 10K chance of spawning in your roster on Commander mode. He’s only armed with a unique pistol and helmet that you can’t change or remove. He’s too tall to fit in most doorways.

[tulip rampart]

if a suspect tries to shoot him, the bullet ricochet's off of his aura

[faint saddle]

But yeah, don’t sweat yourself clearing VotD. I spent all of last night banging my head against the wall trying to get S rank. 😭

[tulip rampart]

i've already s ranked it, did that a while ago haha

i just got incredibly unlucky

[faint saddle]

I like bringing a taser with me on tighter maps. Helps to keep certain people down. And I like just shocking Voll.

[tulip rampart]

plus tasing people is funny

"GET DOWN NOW!"
"fuck you!"

alright, eat electricity

[faint saddle]

“POLICE, HANDS UP!”
“MAKE ME!”
Well okay, if you insist.

[tulip rampart]

shooting civilians reaching for a phone should not give you an unauthorized penalty

[royal otter]

I changed and I still cant move my cam...

[spiral tundra]

Not sure then

[spiral tundra]

“ID RATHER DIE!”

[royal otter]

r u a ps5 player by any chance?

[spiral tundra]

No

[royal otter]

oh alr

[gray zealot]

all my officers died from 1 door

[faint saddle]

This might just be me imagining things, but I find switching to my sidearm seems to intimidate civvies more? Like if I’m aiming at them and then just pull a pistol and aim at their head, I think they’re more likely to get down.

[tulip rampart]

LooL idk why

[tribal pier]

swear the ai is dumb, i remember 3 days ago, there was on going fire in a room and one of the officers decided to arrest a civilian instead of taking a shot

[tulip rampart]

"tHiS iS fOr OuR sAfEtY"

[past maple]

Anyone got any outfit ideas

[tulip rampart]

Hawaiian polo

[elfin crag]

I wanna be a female in ready or not 😭

[vestal mauve]

I hope women SWAT officers get added
It'll be fun and also make the worst people in the world really mad

[elfin crag]

Hahah yes

[spiral tundra]

I agree, but there are very few female swat

[elfin crag]

I mean but female can be swat

Plus they be badass 😂

[amber dock]

@elfin crag that image you saw in #🎨ron-screenshots-and-art is from a old Ron trailer I believe

It’s not something you can do in game without certain Unreal engine tools and what not

[elfin crag]

Ahhh

[amber dock]

Hence why in trailers for any game but for Ron don’t match to actual gameplay in terms of cutscenes and moves Ai can do

[elfin crag]

I was like that’s sick I wish you can have different loading screen on console 😭 like mann

[fringe gate]

The LAPD SWAT has only a single female member and she is very badass from what i hear

[elfin crag]

Damm

[nimble bough]

bro

we cant be serious 💔

the last guy killed the very last civillian to save on elephant

[quiet apex]

You're rescuing civvies before you bring order and defusing?

[nimble bough]

nah, its kinda more as i go

since im clearing each room and i may find a civ in there but no suspect or anything

last room i had was the library place

but he ran out into that hallway-ish area and kidnapped the last person

its fine though once i complete the whole campaign ima go back over it with non-lethal to attempt all S ranks

[slender stream]

is the achievement "off duty" bugged? me and my friend have tried to do it twice, followed perameters. We think its because we physically cant take off armour. anyone know?

[void jasper]

Just finished greased palms finally

[trim edge]

Anyone wanna squad up on ps

[void jasper]

Lost two ai doing it

[tepid tulip]

Female suspect on her knees put a knife out and grounded one of my operators first, then me. I'm speechless. Didn't even know it's possible 😄

[void jasper]

Gotta love it

[tepid tulip]

I gotta start wearing dat thick armor again

[void jasper]

I saw a suspect run out of ammo and pull a knife then run through the door

[distant steeple]

You dont wanna know what i witnessed

Literally someone blowing himself up with a bomb vest in my face

Killing me and my whole squad

10/10 game

[void jasper]

Gotta love it

[tepid tulip]

mission in the club probably?

[distant steeple]

Yup

[tepid tulip]

he rekt*my team yesterday

[distant steeple]

And that hospital 2 missions after...

[halcyon osprey]

ayo

thats better 😂

[distant steeple]

Man why was it so difficult to spot that bomb in the school shooting

Bomb blew up twice, and it spawns in a different location every time

Its small, and takes time to defuse

[tepid tulip]

they're usually at the kitchen and the table

i think she beeps a little

[distant steeple]

Yeah they do

Literally the beep was the only reason i found the bomb

[verbal meteor]

any tips for the party crasher achievement?

how fast should i arrest sah'id?

[dry thistle]

Trying to key my mic but my name isn’t showing up. Hear the beeps of it on and off. Anyone run into this before?

[amber dock]

As soon as possible cause if you don’t he will order his men to kill civs

So unless you detain him they won’t stop until all civs dead

[verbal meteor]

does the achievement pop up right after you arrested?

[amber dock]

No it pop once mission ends

[verbal meteor]

ahh okay

[iron canopy]

Doing anything but fixing the ai

[verbal meteor]

yeah they're basically john wick at this point

[jagged quartz]

Relapse on hard is ridiculous

The enemy all kill you in 2 shots and when I shoot them 4 times in the chest they don't even react because the hitreg is garbage

[weak python]

why is the reticle on my sight not there

[amber dock]

Caused by DLSS use of some kind

Or some sort of up scaling

[storm belfry]

Anyone got ideas how I can stop hitting suspects on their heads with my beanbags?

[amber dock]

Aim stomach region

[storm belfry]

good idea

[deep patio]

Do y'all use .300 Blackout ?

Cause I've used the 5.56x45mm and both 7.62x39mm and 7.62x51

But never the .300 so I'm a little curious tbh

The thing with the .300 is that all of those rifles are quite short

[storm belfry]

gives me flash backs to dayz, but 300blk is basically just a middle ground between 5.56 and 7.62

it'll one shot for a knock down

But it's two for a kill

[deep patio]

Okay I'll give that a shot but what about the rifles themselves ?

Cause again I just see some people use the LVAR religiously

I mean I know this game's guns are 80% personal preference but like

[storm belfry]

Not my personal thing to say tbh

I mainly use the G36 or M4

[fading anvil]

I forgot to check but does the G36 have the scope with carry handle?

[serene prairie]

i’m new what do you guys think is a good assault rifle and pistol to use?

i’m on console to

[storm belfry]

Nope, just two pistol red dots and a small rifle red dot

[fading anvil]

I played STALKER so it feels wrong seeing it without it 😭

[storm belfry]

yeah I used to play R6 so it looks weird whenever it's basically bald

[past maple]

Chat what games are worth spending my paycheck on

[storm belfry]

Look at where we are #👮ron-discussion.

[past maple]

Yeah

Ik

Could ready or not possibly not be one of the options?

[storm belfry]

yes

totally

[past maple]

There you go see

[storm belfry]

[past maple]

I mess with that sticker