👮ron-discussion

[ocean cargo]

yeah its the only mission i always S tier if i play it

[spiral tundra]

Dude people say the youngest brother meant to give up easy

[deep patio]

Yeah no that map is quite easy

Like I don't think I ever didn't get an A+ or S on that map

It's chill as hell

[spiral tundra]

But this mf running around like king von and dicing my whole team just to decide “ok ok I give up”

[ocean cargo]

i hate when hes in the attic it sucks

[spiral tundra]

Most the time the guys in the attic come running down to a beanbag in the ribs

[ocean cargo]

they always seem to comply better if theyre inside the rest of the house idk if im going crazy but

[deep patio]

I accidentally shot a hotel employee in Sins of the Father

Because they rushed me from a blind corner

[spiral tundra]

For me the dudes in that blue room downstairs don’t give up

[spiral tundra]

Dude I HATE when AI decide they wanna start kicking doors down and I headshot them

[ocean cargo]

my first few times playing the game i absolutely mag dumped a civilian because they fucking blasted open a door that was right next to me which i didnt know they would do

[spiral tundra]

IK the AI in this game have a death wish

[ocean cargo]

oh some of them deserve to die fr like fucking something something natural selection on god

[spiral tundra]

I lit do a 180 and pop them cuz I think they’re a suspect

[deep patio]

I had a suspect kick a door down while I had a wedge in my hand and I was so scared my chest hurt and I had to hit pause 💀

[ocean cargo]

again my first few times playing the fucking civilians who reached for their phones would get me everytime like who in their right fucking mind is fastly whipping around grabbing their phone at their waist and pulling it up directly on fucking swat officers in front of them and expect to not get popped

[spiral tundra]

Dude
Neon tomb right, AI civ runs across the front of a terrorist who I’m shooting at, like how DUMB do you gotta be

They got dropped

[ocean cargo]

the worst is when you just ued a mirror cam and they open the door in that split second before you see them and mag dump you

[spiral tundra]

actual IDIOTS bro

[ocean cargo]

ah should never both securing civilians until you get all the suspects on that map

[spiral tundra]

Generally I don’t secure civs unless I’m wedged into a room, my squad are covering or there’s no suspects

[ocean cargo]

always have ai secure sus/civs way easier/safer

[deep patio]

I just let my AI secure everything unless there's literally nothing going on

[spiral tundra]

Dude it’s so neat how the AI instantly secure guns

[ocean cargo]

if someone is in potential line of fire when youre securing them you should have the person crawl towards you to not have that happen

[spiral tundra]

They literally walk up to it and it’s instantly done

[deep patio]

Oh no they have issues with wandering off sometimes.

Actually a f*cking lot

Those mfs have wandered off and gotten killed a lot

[spiral tundra]

https://discord.com/channels/310075021882294272/1408929126080839693

[spiral tundra]

This was an idea I came up with yesterday

But leaving an active bomb on a civ is Lwk stupid

[deep patio]

I use the hold comman ai much to just make sure they don't run off

But sometimes they go clear something and I gotta give it to them, they do it well

They're not completely incompetent but they do need to be micromanaged

[exotic slate]

How on gods green earth did I kill a civilian with a flash bang

[spiral tundra]

Uh
Sure it wasn’t a stinger?

[exotic slate]

Im using the rotery grenade launcher

[jagged carbon]

Did you shoot them in the face?

[deep patio]

See I'm one of the plebs I don't have that thing 💀

[spiral tundra]

What even are the weapons that come with deluxe edition
I Lwk just saw extra missions and bought it

[exotic slate]

.> does that kill them?

[exotic slate]

it comes with the base game dont it?

[deep patio]

You're launching a chunk of metal at hundreds of feet per second, yes it does 😭

[exotic slate]

[jagged carbon]

Probably never used the grenade launcher I have it just don’t really like it, but I’m pretty sure almost everything in the game deals some damage even if it’s a small amount and if you hit for the head it’s gonna deal a lot more damage. Basically like the beanbag shotgun.

[deep patio]

Nope and also same thing with the bean bag shotgun if you shoot a suspect in the face with it, you will kill them

[spiral tundra]

What guns come with deluxe

[jagged carbon]

I think just the launchers. Maybe the mkv and shotgun with a mag.

[spiral tundra]

And pepperball pistol I think

[deep patio]

MKV handgun and the rotary launcher come to mind

[spiral tundra]

Or mkV yeah

Doesn’t deluxe also mean that it’ll get the paid DLC in future for free or?

[jagged carbon]

Didn’t know that wasn’t base game. When I saw that I thought it would be a base game weapon

[deep patio]

Yeah that too

[vague hedge]

What's the best s class gun loadout

[deep patio]

It is in the base game, I shove it in my AI's less than lethal loadout

[exotic slate]

I didnt even know i had the delux anything

[spiral tundra]

Oh that’s sick
Icl I just had a lot of spare money and when I saw extra missions I was sold

[deep patio]

Light Armor Front and Back Ceramic, Gas Mask, 2 CS Gas, 1-2 stinger, 1 wedge, 1 lockpick gun,

Main gun is the HK416 suppressed for me and the FN Five Seven as a side arm 5 and 2 mags respectively of AP

That's my loadout

[deep patio]

Wait you said S class shit 💀.still good for hard lethal

[spiral tundra]

S

If you’re with AI use beanbag since somehow they get friendly fired

[jagged carbon]

Isn’t CS gas in a bad place right now? People keep saying how it still isn’t working properly

[vague hedge]

S class on diddys house is a pain

[deep patio]

I mean it is pretty nerfed but I rather use it than stinger and flashes because it doesn't raise stress and lowers morale (right?)

[spiral tundra]

Idk I had issues tryna do S VOD earlier with it, people just ate it
On the other hand my S on gas was amazing with gas?
It’s really volatile

[deep patio]

Well on standard it's great but the moment you go on hard, the gas gets worse

Lower radius, lower duration

It basically becomes kinda disappointing

[spiral tundra]

It was standard VOD and hard gas station 🥀

[charred birch]

The latest LSS patch made it better than it was back when the console update came out but it’s definitely worse than before

[spiral tundra]

I spent most my time on RON today absolutely losing it with the Wild West achievement

[vague hedge]

Are they gonna be adding maps soon?

[jovial lagoon]

No, next question

[stoic thistle]

What will Judge do when the USIA enacts their plan?

[jovial lagoon]

There is an Achievement that explains it

[spiral tundra]

Btw is there anywhere you can read official lore on the game

[vague hedge]

@jovial lagoon 20 bucks for a dlc with a couple maps is a rip-off

[stoic thistle]

The one you get for finding that hidden room in the elysian?

[spiral tundra]

Not really, plus you get guns

Look at how detailed the maps are..

[vague hedge]

@jovial lagoon considering how bugged the game is I am not impressed

[jovial lagoon]

We usually get Major updates (Which includes maps, cosmetics and guns) every 6 to 8 months

[jovial lagoon]

It is an Indie Game, i don't see anything wrong with it

[spiral tundra]

It’s a small team working on it

[jovial lagoon]

People need to understand that Ready Or Not is not a Triple A game lol, it is a Indie Game with a Indie Dev Team

[proven blade]

I think too many people who play RoN think the game thinks S Rank is realistic and not a challenge

[jovial lagoon]

Facts

[proven blade]

B>A is supposed to be realistic

S is purely just a challenge

[spiral tundra]

Ron is like the only game I’ve played for the past few days

I absolutely love it
Especially since I’ve started playing with others on here

Yeah, it can be funny tho

It’s kinda funny when I arrest someone and they start levitating

[vague hedge]

It is a fun game don't get me wrong but needs a bit of work

[spiral tundra]

Yeah

A lot of people don’t realise this game isn’t like cod or Fortnite where they can fix bugs instantly due to having tons of people working on it

[solar cloud]

Just bought the game yesterday and done valley of the dolls solo and got S tier is that hard ?

[crystal pelican]

more like 6 to 7 months

[jovial lagoon]

True

[spiral tundra]

VOD is a fairly easy map to do S if you move around right

Just make sure they all don’t start running out when you’re on the patio and spraying you

[solar cloud]

I find it easier than goddam greased palms

[spiral tundra]

That’s like the hardest S in the game

[jovial lagoon]

Most people find it hard cause they don't even know how to get S Rank, most people like if Real Life ROE is InGame

[spiral tundra]

Is the ROE in game actually entirely realistic or no?

[solar cloud]

To be honest I know barley about ROE I just went in knowing a bean bag shotgun will do the trick

[spiral tundra]

ROE
If someone shoots, points a gun at you, or kills a civilian you can shoot them

[heady acorn]

How do you do hard mode trophy on ron, we just did twisted nerve and gunned down everyone even civilians and voted to end the mission, does that not count? Do we have to s rank+hard mode at the same time?

[spiral tundra]

Or if they start charging with a knife or gun at you

[spiral tundra]

c+ I think

[crystal pelican]

does anyone else get a lot of fps drops at the start of every mission? It goes away after you enter an interior or explore enough

[spiral tundra]

So do all objectives

[solar cloud]

I find it I get shot at before I even get the chance to yell at them to get down

[heady acorn]

If we gun down suspects and detain civi do we get c+

Even if someone dies

[vague hedge]

@crystal pelican I get fps drops and lag alot throughout missions

[spiral tundra]

Just do all hard objectives and secure the HVT

[spiral tundra]

It’s fine if someone dies

[deep patio]

ROE with a beanbag shotgun is basically non existent afaik

[crystal pelican]

damn i only get that at the start which is kinda annoying but if it persisted it would be unplayable

[spiral tundra]

Just don’t begin pumping people when they are cuffed

[narrow plank]

pepper spray has a more strict roe than the beanbag shotgun

[deep patio]

Yeah don't abuse the already apprehended people 💀

[crystal pelican]

i shoot suspects even when they've surrendered but arent in cuffs yet

[solar cloud]

I got my friend to install this game too can he thought the second you see someone you shoot them no matter what

[spiral tundra]

Dude the worst thing is you be so close to getting the hard S

Then you breach the final room and the guy headshots the civilian 😭

[jovial lagoon]

From what i know, US SWAT Teams always aim to de-escalate situation, not escalate em, so they will always aim to apply Non-Lethal methods but that can shift real fast depending on the situation... A Barricaded suspect always ends up in Use of Lethal Force

[vague hedge]

@crystal pelican Yeah it's rough I bought xbox copy and pc copy for my son and we both have the same issues

[spiral tundra]

I mean like the pointing thing and that

[toxic harness]

what issue?

[crystal pelican]

that sounds like an internet connection issue unless you're playing solo then your internet connection probably doesnt matter

[exotic slate]

alrightr carriers of the vine lets do it to it

[jovial lagoon]

You need to always aim to achieve a C Grade or higher, that means you need to stop gunning down everyone and try your best to take atleast 3 or more suspects alive

[jovial lagoon]

Yes, that is realistic, you need to comply with commands

[vague hedge]

@toxic harness I have fiber. Ron is the only game I have issues with

[spiral tundra]

Yeah and don’t shoot the HVT for everybody’s sake

[exotic slate]

why would you do that

[crystal pelican]

damn even civilians aren't safe

[spiral tundra]

Ok
Idk who is dumb enough to try and gun down 10 swat guys in full armour

[jovial lagoon]

People high on drugs think they can take on God himself IRL

[toxic harness]

You just need a C or higher rank for only "I'm Too Old for This". But you can attempt Hard S ranks with people to get both Medal of Valor and I'm Too Old for This

And the right to say skill issue to anyone here

[crystal pelican]

that sounds very odd. is it lag or fps drops?

[toxic harness]

If it's fps drops, some maps has a lot of stuff going on that it can cause fps drops until you are close to finish the mission

But if it's lag, it could be internet or the totally best EPIC servers

[crystal pelican]

yeah i think the fps drops at the start of every mission for me is things loading in

[spiral tundra]

Not those with hermit

[heady acorn]

We just tried doing it as fast as possible 😂😂

[toxic harness]

Hermit also gets the privilege and protection from the skill issue

[spiral tundra]

Or platinum / 100%

[vague hedge]

@crystal pelican Both. It actually happens with my whole crew I play with. We even try switching hosts but between 5 ppl we all have the same issue

[spiral tundra]

What’s it even called 100% achievements on Xbox

[jovial lagoon]

Adrenaline in stress scenarios is hell of a thing, your survival instinct kicks in and you want to kill everyone

[spiral tundra]

Isn’t there a flight option too 😭

[crystal pelican]

could it be related to your copy of the game? sounds like something is corrupted but idk if that would cause problems for everyone so could just be the servers

[jovial lagoon]

That's when panic gets the best of you, adrenaline in the other hand

[spiral tundra]

I mean do swat ever try and still go non lethal after being shot at irl? Maybe if they have shields?

[jovial lagoon]

No, Once an officer on scene has been injured or killed, Full use of lethal force is authorized, any means to take down the threat

[spiral tundra]

What if the shield ate the bullets

Or the guy shooting missed

[jovial lagoon]

It doesn't matter, any aggression IRL towards a police officer or Swat operator, needs to be answered with double the lethality

[stone bay]

this game is halfbaked trash

[crystal pelican]

most likely still gonna get shot

[trim dirge]

SFMB Brake or SOCOM Suppressor?

[stone bay]

hitreg issues are insane

[jovial lagoon]

Tell us something we haven't known for the past 4 years or so

Sherlock

[crystal pelican]

i love mag dumping suspects

[jovial lagoon]

SOCOM always

[stone bay]

sry im not a pc savage, dawg and i just got this shit

[spiral tundra]

I use brakes
(Totally not cuz I love the sound of guns in this game)

[jovial lagoon]

Like we just said above, the game is not a Triple A title, it is still an Indie game

[stone bay]

should’ve costed like indie too

[trim dirge]

20 dollars max

[jovial lagoon]

The team working on the game is still an Indie Dev Team too, small team

So they do need the money to keep making this

TBH, the price is way better than most shooters now days, super cheap if you ask me

[crystal pelican]

and they're putting out good updates (mostly) i liked the game size being decreased without losing anything important and general bug fixes but i think the ai and physics could be better

[stone bay]

lame team, yea who cant even properly work with meshes in fckn ue5 and leaves geometry only collision in a hardcore cqb shooter. they can eat shit for that

[spiral tundra]

100 quid for cod btw

[jovial lagoon]

That is my mindset right now tbh

[jovial lagoon]

Talking shit to them or being aggressive towards the team isn't gonna make you feel better or make the game better magically the moment you finish throwing trash at the Devs

There is always a Refund option if you don't like it

[stone bay]

not on consoles lol

[jovial lagoon]

There is always mods to improve your experience or look for other options in the Market... Or the one that is a last resort but possible still... Make your own game

[trim dirge]

where are the pc console features at? we don’t even have the ability to free-look neither do we have replay mode, those are two of really great features in the game and they never carried it over.

[crystal pelican]

i don't like how the bodies start levitating when arresting them when they're incapacitated and bullets sometimes go thorugh suspects without doing any damage

[stone bay]

and i paid enough to talk shit

[spiral tundra]

Icl id love replay on console
I can’t be capturing clips mid gunfight

[stone bay]

game really is fundamentally broken which literally misrepresents a product

[jovial lagoon]

You pay to talk shit ? Dang that's depressing

Should've watch a review before buying

Or watch gameplay before buying

[stone bay]

no, dawg u the one who needed a reason. chill

[spiral tundra]

#🎬ron-clips-and-media I mean you just emptied 5 rounds into the wall

[jovial lagoon]

I'm just giving you the solutions to your problems that's all

[trim dirge]

i half agree with you but they should’ve finished the really important aspects of the game and the console port before dropping it that early.

[crystal pelican]

@stone bay the game needs improvement but you don't gotta be mean to the devs who are actively trying to improve the game

[jovial lagoon]

True that, i can agree that Console release should've been delayed

[spiral tundra]

@stone bay also in #🎬ron-clips-and-media you can see your bullets sparking off the wall behind

So idk but I’m not sure your barrel was aligned with him

[jovial lagoon]

But sadly they had to do some last minute changes after they already announced a Release Date, so that ruined most things that were being cooked for the Console Release

[stone bay]

yea 5.56 doesn’t go through walls just like a bunch of shots after right in the body

[trim dirge]

i just hope they make things better in the future

[jovial lagoon]

They will

VOID is not a bad Indie Team, they are just learning as they keep moving forward

[exotic slate]

through a long series of quitting to menue whenever my guys get to injured and re running gas station to get there moxie back up i have almost S rank Iron maned the game
two more missions to go

[trim dirge]

I wonder if the bad framerate for fidelity mode on console is intentional

[jovial lagoon]

Take in mind this game started as a simple hyped up project by 3 people (I think) who just wanted to see a sequel to SWAT 4

[spiral tundra]

Yeah
I agree it would be better to have hot fixes every week rather than a ton in one massive update

[jovial lagoon]

And i say "Hyped" cause most things that were prepared were removed, the Survillance drones, the tactical ladders, PVP, etc.

[vague hedge]

How about postpone release a game

[muted rivet]

is that true that’s really sweet lol

[spiral tundra]

We have this conversation like 5 times daily
The small team can’t fix EVERYTHING as soon as you complain

[jovial lagoon]

Stirling and his team were very excited to add so many things to the game, but in the end they found out most things gameplay wise were not going the way they wanted to they had to cut most content

@stone bay You need to stop dude... that's 2 warnings

[lean edge]

💯💯💯👍🏼

[spiral tundra]

Check out his clip #🎬ron-clips-and-media

[muted rivet]

sucks when people with big dreams get limited by something out of there control or budget

[stone bay]

u cant even say pig here lol

[charred birch]

I think people would complain about either honestly ; hot fixes every week would get people saying "WHY IS JUDGE’S RIGHT BUTTCHEEK SLIGHTLY PIXELATED THATNS LITERALLY UNPLAYABLE" because the issues they want to be fixed won’t be fixed immediately and you won’t satisfy everyone whereas a massive patch will satisfy someone but then people are (understandably tbh) gonna complain about how long it’s taking

[jovial lagoon]

Lemme see

[stone bay]

yea check my clip yall

[spiral tundra]

You can see bullets sparking off the wall behind the suspect

[spiral tundra]

You can’t make everyone happy

[charred birch]

Try making reddit happy 💔

[vague hedge]

Listen if someone pays 70 dollars on a game it should be worth it

[spiral tundra]

Try making Ron happy

[trim dirge]

if its not then they REALLY need to fix that because thats what makes the game look so great

[stone bay]

yea, how they go through the suspect then, genius?

[spiral tundra]

I say it’s worth it without a doubt

[spiral tundra]

Well the bullet isn’t directly aligned with the sight in this game

But honestly

[stone bay]

lol yall have to check eyesight fr

[spiral tundra]

I really don’t know, maybe lag? But this one could well be hit reg

I’ve seen ones before where their bullets we’re obviously missing due to barrel-sight difference

[stone bay]

maybe the game is a halfbaked ue5 shit with worst hitreg in a while?

[charred birch]

Hit registering does seem to be an issue sometimes, in this instance i do feel like it was a bug since you’re supposed to aim slightly to the right when using a laser pointer (which he did) yet it still hit the wall BEHIND the suspect which is odd

[crystal pelican]

i think it is pretty clear that the bullets are going through the arm

[charred birch]

But it doesn’t happen too often in my experience thankfully, can be infuriating when it does though

[jovial lagoon]

You completely messed that up yourself lol,
1.- You shot a Flash inside of a room first of all, you should've gone for the arrest not engage...
2. While stunned, suspects do not show any kind of Hurt or Incap animation, the suspect was taking shots yes but some suspects (Even if the model doesn't show it visually) Have heavy armor so they will take shots and not go down.
3.- Always aim for Center mass or the head.
4.- Last and most important... Any suspect that recovers from a Stun, will increase their morale and aggression level

[vague hedge]

@upper schooner They refuse refund

[crystal pelican]

i have it happen but i don't notice it a lot cause i spray a lot

[charred birch]

Oh actually you’re right i just checked and he did in fact hit him since you can see blood splatter 😭

[spiral tundra]

Yeah this is relapse and it’s not a disguised enemy so he does have armour for sure

[spiral tundra]

Yeah and it’s over penetrating due to the sparks behind him

[vague hedge]

@upper schooner it's same with my son on pc. No refund

[charred birch]

The suspects wear L3 (?) armor as well so they do tend to tank a few more shots ; imma be honest i couldn’t have told it hit him without you pointing it out and then checking the clip again

At first sight it really does look like hit register shitting the bed i’ll give them that 😭

[spiral tundra]

Should be L3 as its undisguised relapse

[crystal pelican]

what does L3 mean

[charred birch]

Level 3 armor

[spiral tundra]

Second strongest armour in game

[crystal pelican]

so light armor?

[spiral tundra]

L0 - no armour
L1 - weak armour
L2 - average
L3 - strong
L4 - strongest

[vague hedge]

@upper schooner yeah I bought 2 copies one for me and one for my son. My 140 bucks pays for there next update lol

[crystal pelican]

at least it went to a good cause

[jovial lagoon]

Yeah i think the most important thing here is that most people don't know that some suspects in later missions on STANDARD and most missions in HARD wear Body Armor and they will swallow a whole magazine if you do not aim to the head or center mass...

This i can confirm is an issue when it comes to Visuals since the game uses every model available for enemies... and when that happens... You may find situations where you see a suspect with a Casual Outfit but in reality the game is throwing at you a heavy armored suspect

[spiral tundra]

Icl they gotta improve the death ragdoll on teammates

It’s AMAZING on suspects but your swat teammates / multiplayer teammates just slump and drop

[charred birch]

Plus i’d assume they were using AP rounds so shooting the limbs wasn’t going to do much compared to JHP would have when they hit the limbs

[spiral tundra]

Yeah it’s going through and hitting the wall you can see it sparking

[jovial lagoon]

Exactly, the ammo type you use as well counts a lot in every scenario

The game does try to be realistic at the end of the day in some aspects, so yeah Ammo Type does affect the outcome of some situations

[crystal pelican]

my goal is to get S+ from every mission but for some missions it is very difficult not to mag dump everyone

[charred birch]

This is why you bring the pepperball guns or beanbag shotgun

Oh wait do you mean gameplay wise or because of missions like Valley of the dolls where you want to magdump everyone

[jovial lagoon]

For example: In Carriers of the Vine i shot a suspect point blank with buckshot... She pretended to be dead or incapacitated, but when i arrested her, she was fine

[crystal pelican]

both

[charred birch]

Oh well for the former then just do as i said with the non lethal and for the latter ; well remember your reward for S ranking everything is that you can enjoy mag dumping everyone again once it’s done

[spiral tundra]

Oh just reminded me
I was tryna do Wild West achievement earlier and I died instantly cuz I opened a door and a dude with SMG on full auto was staring at it (hard), then my team completed mission and I got tactician on accident cuz I didn’t fire 😭

[crystal pelican]

you're right i'll start working on getting more s+ when i complete every mission at least once

[jovial lagoon]

It's not difficult to not Magdump... I get it can be frustrating sometimes cause the suspects are unpredictable... But practice and full knowledge of your tools will help you out

[charred birch]

The cultists wear armor too which is NOT visible at all, great example of how visuals can put you at a disadvantage in that game

[jovial lagoon]

Exactly! This guy gets it

[muted rivet]

does anyone know if you can get the “im too old for this” achievement in multiplayer..?

[jovial lagoon]

Yes actually

[trim dirge]

i never even knew they wore armor

[muted rivet]

thank you

[crystal pelican]

but it just feels so good to mag dump someone you dont like, why doesn't anyone do this in real life?

[jovial lagoon]

I'm currently trying to get the last mission done "Port Hokan" with a friend so we both get it, it's the last achievement i need for full 100%

[spiral tundra]

I find it way more satisfying to put someone down in 2 shots than 30 icl

[charred birch]

A lot of suspects wear armor despite their appearance not showing it, like in Sins of the Father

[muted rivet]

i’m stuck on greased this is the first time i’ve struggled with it lol

[rough epoch]

anyone available to help me out with relapse?

[charred birch]

Ironically sometimes they LOOK like they’re wearing armor like in Sinuous Trail but actually aren’t wearing any or rather weak ones

[spiral tundra]

Yeah, not like our vest where it’s outside due to mags etc
They can wear it under shirt

[spiral tundra]

Yeah that’s just an ammo rig not armour

[jovial lagoon]

If you have the Grenade Launcher and no other options are working, try to just load 12 rounds into it and make each one count specially in big rooms to arrest everyone

[jovial lagoon]

You on PC ?

[muted rivet]

okay thank you i’ll try that out

[spiral tundra]

But dude… I swear the Wild West achievement I couldn’t actually kill anyone

[jovial lagoon]

Why ?

[spiral tundra]

Like I think the magnum was bugged, it didn’t do any damage on the prisoner in training area either

[jovial lagoon]

Oh, the Magnum is very inconsistent yes, i can confirm that, the game tries to immitate the real firepower of it and if you don't center the gun properly on a suspect the bullet will go to Tinbuctu

[rough epoch]

iim not. im on xbox

[spiral tundra]

I tried JHP and AP

[jovial lagoon]

Dang, i could help but i hate the Epic Online Services

[jovial lagoon]

Use full AP on that for that achievement

And take it very slow, use no attachments if you can

[spiral tundra]

I hate lasers anyway

[jovial lagoon]

Atleast i feel more comfortable with no attachments on it

[spiral tundra]

I didn’t even bother with it after a while

[jovial lagoon]

It is a fun achievement once you get the hang of it

[spiral tundra]

I was with a squad and we decided we all wanted to get the Hawaiian shirt anyway

[charred birch]

I just love to rock the Hawaiian shirt and use nothing but the magnum

[spiral tundra]

We failed MANY times due to the catwalk

And due to when we got downstairs, there were 3 dudes running in and out of the building with full auto SMGs

So we died to that aswell
Yeah we decided to try it on hard at first for who knows what reason

[rough epoch]

i appreciate it

[limber wing]

@spiral tundra ma boi wsggg

[spiral tundra]

Sup

[next sigil]

Why does a civilian absolutely REFUSE to surrender?

Used 3 flashbangs, bashed about 15 times, nothing works whatsoever

[rough epoch]

i usually put one in the knee

[next sigil]

I have a shotgun so it'll blow their leg clean off

[spiral tundra]

You alr?

[limber wing]

yh course man hows the game goin for ya

[spiral tundra]

Amazing I love it

Got a couple of hard S’

[charred birch]

Is that happening in Neon Tomb ?

[spiral tundra]

You have to shoot them

[deep patio]

Imma be honest I never really used JHP

I just always went for AP

[spiral tundra]

I carry one mag of it and forget I have it

[next sigil]

Relapse

[spiral tundra]

I tend to remember when I get killed tryna shoot someone with armour

[deep patio]

Shoot near them I guess, some of them are outrageously annoying

But never have I had a civ resist arrest after I bashed their ass 💀

[charred birch]

Well if you’ve genuinely tried everything including bashing them throwing flashes/stingers/cs at them and yelling and getting close to them, then i think the mission really just shat the bed and decided to soft lock

[spiral tundra]

Some of them on neon just don’t

[next sigil]

Doesn't help

[spiral tundra]

I had the same thing
You have to kill them

[next sigil]

Bash, flash, shooting around them, nothing works at all, and they had a bombvest on so if I shoot them they blow up

[deep patio]

I never came across that 💀

That sounds like torture 💀

Especially on a map like Neon or Relapse

[next sigil]

ruined ANOTHER run, this happened several times in a row

[rough epoch]

im on relaose also

[deep patio]

I've shot suspects with the vest they didn't blow ?

Did that not get changed ?

[charred birch]

Oh yeah for some reason Neon Tomb tends to soft lock pretty frequently because of civilians literally being unable to surrender

[next sigil]

Or the AI just refuses to listen to commands and just stand around doing nothing, not sure why the AI in this game doesn't work most of the tyime

[next sigil]

Suspects will not blow up if you shoot them, civilians will

[rough epoch]

are you on pc?

[jovial lagoon]

Known issues, sometimes (Very rare scenarios) the AI still get stuck in his Doubt state... And only happens on 1 specific civilian or suspect... It is always very rare to see but does happen

[deep patio]

Oh yeah no you have to tell to fall in and I guess stack up on another door

That usually helps for me

But sometimes my AI team just refuses to follow orders

[charred birch]

Oops that was a bad word apparently

[next sigil]

yes

[charred birch]

The AI always was kind of stupid but it seems worse now, that should get fixed hopefully though

[next sigil]

"very rare" meaning 3 out of my 7 runs today...

[next sigil]

Told them to fall in several times, and then re-issue the order, and they still just stand around.
I love the game but the constant bugs are getting annoying

[jovial lagoon]

Dang, it has only happened to me twice since 2022, then i have no idea dude

[deep patio]

You might just be really unlucky because I've never had a bugged civ

The only bugged suspect was when they try to shuffle on Ends of the Earth in the attic and two suspects do it ar the same time and get stuck like that

[spiral tundra]

I think sometimes if they can’t fit their stack in a room they just won’t move

[charred birch]

Yeah me personally i’ll have totally fine days then one day the game shits the bed and crashes several times, the ai turns into even bigger idiots than i thought was possible, civilians cause the mission to soft lock, yada yada yada

When it works (which is most of the time tbh) it’s a great game that’s still worth it after all these years

[spiral tundra]

For some reason my game freezes for a bit when I take a screenshot or record

[next sigil]

I mean I can't even do quick play anymore, game crashes every single time I start any mission

[charred birch]

But sometimes it just doesn’t wanna work 💔

[deep patio]

It doesn't help that they don't tell you why they're not doing it

They just stop and stare at you

For exemple if you tell them to open and clear a wedge door they'll just... Stay there

[spiral tundra]

And then my game just crashes randomly sometimes

[limber wing]

nicee man

[spiral tundra]

I had an amazing run on the yacht map earlier and game crashed cuz I took a screenshot

[jovial lagoon]

I just play Multiplayer these days, but when i do play alone i fill my game with mods that improve the base experience

[deep patio]

Maybe you should verify the integrity of your files that's really unusual

[next sigil]

I did, several times, over the course of the past 4 weeks

[spiral tundra]

#🎨ron-screenshots-and-art message
That’s the screenshot btw 😭

[next sigil]

Reinstalled twice as well

[deep patio]

What the hell is going on with your copy of the game 💀

Is it haunted wtf ?

[charred birch]

The game is nearly meant to be played with mods honestly, too bad i’ve been forced to switch to console now 😭

[jovial lagoon]

NOOOOO

Why is that ?

[charred birch]

Yeah circumstances made me switch to console entirely not long before the console release

[deep patio]

Suffer the fate of the console gaming

Still fun to play on PS5 tho

[charred birch]

So no mods for me now 💔 Still very enjoyable though

[sand elm]

Someone know the hardest AI in the game?

[spiral tundra]

Dude I haven’t played some missions out of just fear bro 😭

[sand elm]

The most realistic and hard?

[spiral tundra]

Probably neon or relapse / hide and seek

[deep patio]

Greased palms is cracked 💀

[jovial lagoon]

Speaking of mods, it is time to update all of my mods, a lot have Available Updates on Nexus

[spiral tundra]

And greased palms yeah

[sand elm]

Modded ai*

[charred birch]

Pretty sure the Black Sentinel in 3 letter triad are set at the highest skill level, but i think The Left behind are set at the highest or second highest level too

[sand elm]

Modded ai

[spiral tundra]

The amount of times “FISA agent” actual delta force operative Jack Adam’s has headshotted me

[deep patio]

Talking about the left behind

I HATE IDES OF MARCH WITH A PASSION.

THEY FRICKING REFUSE TO SURRENDER WHRN I BEAN BAG THEM 3 TIMES IN A ROW

[charred birch]

Oh really ? It’s one of the maps i like more ngl

[tiny burrow]

Anyone have the issue that there’s 1 rando civilian missing in the mission so you can’t complete the objective like I’ve searched the map 5 times and they are NOT here 🥲

[spiral tundra]

I loved ides first playthrough

[charred birch]

When all fails then you just dump an SA-58 mag into their chest

[spiral tundra]

But maybe cuz I actually hit my shots for once

[deep patio]

They for some reason refuse to comply unless I get really agressive 💀

And they're that annoying on STANDARD DIFFICULTY

THE S RANK IS SO ANNOYING.

Lethal is fun tho.

[jovial lagoon]

You need to check Closets and under any tables or beds, they can literally hide where you can't physically reach em

[charred birch]

Still an S rank symbolically…

[spiral tundra]

I had a ton of fun going through ides with a shield lol

It’s one of the maps where you can actually get kills with the shield

[deep patio]

The tattoo that refuses to indulge in my delusions

[charred birch]

Second best tattoo in the game

23 megabytes a second’s takes number one

[jovial lagoon]

YOOOO Have Doughnut just posted the new Daniel Deffense MK 300 on Nexus

A new rifle for my RON Collection

[charred birch]

I guess I’ll just stick to my vanilla guns…

[spiral tundra]

They gotta add .950 JDJ calibre guns

[deep patio]

I'll keep showering crackheads with lead with my HK416 I guess 💀

[spiral tundra]

When you shoot it, you go flying through the wall behind you

[charred birch]

When are they going to add airstrikes to the game ?

[deep patio]

Fr just let me air strike the Voll's house

[sand elm]

im just looking for the hardest ai mod

[charred birch]

It literally just takes ONE laser guided bomb

[sand elm]

someone help me

[spiral tundra]

#🎨ron-screenshots-and-art

[deep patio]

Yeah buddy we don't know 💀
We're just console plebs here

[spiral tundra]

Just look at the bullet 😭

[deep patio]

I'd use it on Brixley

[spiral tundra]

When you shoot it you go flying through the wall behind you

[deep patio]

New strat to breach doors

[charred birch]

"C2 then bang it-" Hold on Judge I got it

[spiral tundra]

Make sure there’s no traps

[charred birch]

Then you just turn around

And shoot it

[spiral tundra]

We’re breaching whole buildings not doors pal

[charred birch]

You’ll never see that door again

[spiral tundra]

I bet the guy yelling “YOU DIE WITH MEE” on neon still kills me after I shoot him with this

[deep patio]

You'll never see the poor dude standing behind said door

Also I literally wall banged a suspect because I had no C2 and dude was standing right there

Dude got shot, so satisfying

[spiral tundra]

Also can the suspects on relapse have bomb vests like neon

[deep patio]

PLEASE NO

THAT MAP IS ENOUGH ALREADY

40 MINS OF HALLWAYS THAT ALL LOOK THE SAME

[charred birch]

Relapse’s layout is HELL at first but you get used to it eventually

[tiny burrow]

Been firing shots left and right search and secure on every room still no civilian bro 💔 ts on a good run aswell

[spiral tundra]

Icl I dreaded it at first
I love it now

[charred birch]

Which map ? 💔

[spiral tundra]

Once me and my squad opened the bridge door and there was a guy on it
That dude proceeded to eat 20 bullets

[tiny burrow]

Valley of the dolls

[deep patio]

Yeah after the first mission, the paranoia gets easier

But honestly first time was a hell of an experience.

Great map, 10/10. Would get ambushed and killed by a suspect again because I forgot to reload and my gun went CLICK MID FIGHT

[charred birch]

Oh i feel you good fucking luck 💔

[spiral tundra]

The missions I hate are neon and greased palms

But I got a grudge against neon since my AI absolutely ruins it

[charred birch]

Have you checked that one bathroom to the left when you first enter the house ? Sometimes there’s a civilian hiding in sort of a storage room inside the said bathroom or whatever

[deep patio]

I just hate Neon and Ides of March

Greased Palm is actually kinda okay

[deep patio]

AND VALLEY OF THE FRICKING DOLLS

[spiral tundra]

It’s ok when I’m not getting headshotted by Jack Adam’s

[prisma kettle]

Tell me why The Spider is so hard for me

[deep patio]

That mf is so annoying like damn let me shoot him already

[deep patio]

The spider ? I mean it could be hard depending on where you make your entrance from

[charred birch]

My issue isn’t even HIM killing me but it’s when he forces me to kill him because i have no deployables left and he decides to take someone HOSTAGE

[spiral tundra]

Also I hate greased palms for the dude who always has Maria hostage in the top floor

I enter the room and Maria is dead

[prisma kettle]

I've tried top and right side entrance so far

[deep patio]

Shoot him in the fricking limbs I guess

[restive mulch]

can a hawk write a symphony

[spiral tundra]

Idk on my first playthrough the dude headshotted me mid cuff from across the outside

[charred birch]

Normal FISA stuff i guess

[spiral tundra]

I just hate when I get headshotted from crazy distances on standard by ai with pistols

It’s happened to me so much it’s genuinely crazy

[toxic harness]

Pistols are more dangerous than shotguns funny enough

[spiral tundra]

Some dude with a shotgun kicked a door open on the hunger strike map from like 10 metres away and didn’t hit me 😭

Yet the dudes with pistols kill me a ton

[toxic harness]

Literally shotgun mfs are nothing. Bur when you see a pistol, you're done

[spiral tundra]

Dude ate 10 .300 blackout rounds right after

[toxic harness]

A trade off I guess

[prisma kettle]

I lost all of my officers just to fail the mission from one dude

Pain

[spiral tundra]

Tends to happen

[restive mulch]

dior dior dior

[prisma kettle]

Im still on The Spider... 1 hour later

[solar hearth]

I can’t afford a gaming headset at the moment but have some iPhone EarPods with a microphone. Will that work? PS5 is my platform

[buoyant pecan]

What? We’re not leaving them like this

[toxic harness]

Tf how

[prisma kettle]

Idk I just can't play this one

[amber dock]

As long as it’s 3.5 mm jack it should work

I assume that’s the port on the controller it uses. Would be bad if it doesn’t have it

[solar hearth]

Yep! It does use the 3.5mm, thanks! We were trying to do Greased Palms as a team last night and I couldn’t talk due to no headset

[bleak birch]

My flashbang grenade launcher thing (I forgot its exact name, it's from the pre order) feels wrong. The flashbang activates exactly when I fire, and it effects anything in front of me. Is it supposed to do that?

[amber dock]

Depending on how you aim it it will activate immediately. So you can’t like bounce the projectiles or anything

[spiral tundra]

Yeah it’s an impact grenade

[amber dock]

Wherever you shoot it will detonate on impact goes for the other launchers too minus the CS gas ones

[bleak birch]

No, I mean it doesn't even go out the barrel, it just explodes without hitting anything

[spiral tundra]

Uh
That shouldn’t happen

[buoyant pecan]

I’m so glad Deimos shot Harry

[bleak birch]

It's very effective though

[marble path]

Anyone’s RoN not loading. Pressed find a public game and been sat on it for 15 mins. Left it a few hours and still nothing

[cloud tree]

Just press again

This game is fucking asscheeks

[marble path]

I have

[toxic harness]

Just use #🔎looking-for-players

More efficient to find people than going random public lobbies

[cloud tree]

Why are the bots so cracked today

[toxic harness]

Playing Hard mode?

[cloud tree]

No, standard. I play on Xbox

[spiral tundra]

They’re just cracked on anything but casual

[toxic harness]

Casual is baby mode

[prisma kettle]

If I go into a public game and do a mission, do I get the cosmetic for commander mode or no

[languid dagger]

Whats the liklihood of medical supplies being added?

Feels like it should be a thing for allies giving teammates different roles and to also stop bleeding on suspects and civilians

[hollow elbow]

Best shotgun?

[twin obsidian]

The one that kills

[torpid rain]

i just s ranked greased palms on hard mode but the score didnt update. Do mods make the score not save??

[toxic harness]

If you used mods, then yeah it will not save it

[glass heart]

all of them are great, however the semi automatic shotguns (Beretta 1301 and Benelli M4) generally will perform better than their manually operated brethren

[warm token]

https://tenor.com/view/robust-precise-john-wick2somellier-shopping-gun-gif-23490367

[trim rain]

my mic is still busted in this game, i cant hear or speak at all, all i get is the audio notification that my mic is on but nothing happens, i dont even get the visual cue

its been like this since the update and makes me unable to communicate with random queue teammates

anybody know if thers a fix for this?

[glad stirrup]

benelli m4 no question

something for the end of the night

[hollow knot]

Is gas still bad?

[jovial lagoon]

Yes

[hollow knot]

dang

[abstract laurel]

Whats better, mk18 or sr-16

[odd mesa]

SR

[outer wharf]

Any chance at all that this game gets either a rework to, or a return to the old surrendering animations etc

[analog cave]

Do I have to complete all 18 missions on hard mode to unlock every consmetic? I already did S rank on all missions (standard)

[inland pewter]

I did all missions hard difficulty I don't think you get anything

[analog cave]

Thanks

I just gotta complete iron mode now

[exotic slate]

IDK why my squad will just stand there as somebody tries to shoot me to death

[night urchin]

Saw a civvy with a bomb vest in NEON nightclub. Is that a special thing, should I have player carefully around that? I arrested her like normal after dropping the suspect near her, nothing out of the ordinary happened

[languid dagger]

No hard mode has no cosmetics

You have to do ironheart without losing a squad member for the dev watch

[exotic slate]

if you get to close to them before they get on the ground they explode

[night urchin]

Ah. That'd be bad

[exotic slate]

friendly fire shouldn't be a thing for grenades

[high jasper]

Can you get unathourized use of force with the beanbag shotty?

[exotic slate]

yeah

[high jasper]

how can you accidentally get it 🙏

[exotic slate]

i have no idea what your asking

[analog cave]

Would it still count if I switched officers in between missions in Ironman mode?

[languid dagger]

That's fine

But they can't be fired quit or die

[analog cave]

Thanks!

[terse ferry]

anyone knows where are all civs in Lawmaker located? I couldn't find a civ that made me exfil and got D score:(

[forest oxide]

Hello

[forest oxide]

Is it the DLC level?

[terse ferry]

yes

[forest oxide]

Sadly I don't have it

[jolly marten]

Yo

[forest oxide]

Can't help you on this. Also I don't know why but... for some reason I felt like AI is smarter? Like... It was A LOT fucking better than last time I played

[jolly marten]

My friend completed every mission n got a cool fit like 1990 type fit he gonna help me, if we complete all dlc missions to we get anything ?

[forest oxide]

At launch if I remembered correctly they don't even clear room properly it's like you need to tell a toddler to do everything

[languid dagger]

I tried to unlock the hanged man and I think I did it perfectly but didn't unlock it

Does civilians dying or rank matter?

[exotic slate]

Anybody S rank relapse willing to give some advice

[wraith gale]

yes. dont.

[exotic slate]

I gotta

[bleak birch]

Flashbang grenade launcher ENTIRE team, about 7 mag slots (if you have pre order). No AI should have lethal weapons
Or run a lot of flashbangs if no launcher
Use mirror gun a lot

[wraith gale]

if you're willing to lose all faith and hope in humanities future, then do what the guy above said

[exotic slate]

Will try

[bleak birch]

Wait omg I know you

[wraith gale]

[bleak birch]

rex scout

[wraith gale]

wait....

[bleak birch]

@exotic slate that should be good

[exotic slate]

Well Bang Ok

[jagged carbon]

Tips for elephant?

[jovial lagoon]

Don't Die (?

[exotic slate]

it would be going way better IF MY TEAM DIDNT GET STUCK IN A DOOR

[exotic slate]

S or normal?

[jagged carbon]

Normal

[exotic slate]

stab vest and shotgun with slugs

sprint arround and body them

[bleak birch]

Hate it when they do that

But apparently it's "friendly fire" and "illegal" when I try to get them out of my why

[exotic slate]

Im standing on 6 bad guys and they keep standing up cuz my team wont come in

I just exited to menue and will run a gas station to get moral back up

[exotic slate]

worked like a charm

[quartz patio]

#🎨ron-screenshots-and-art message what is this 💔

[toxic harness]

Me when I fight a Level 4 armored suspect

[toxic harness]

Almost peak Hard S loadout

[quartz patio]

never a fan of heavy armour tbh

slows you down to the point where if you're in an enemy's line of sight you're more likely to get shot more than if you had lighter armour and just moved quicker

[toxic harness]

Same, plus both Light and Heavy only opens/closes the option to put armor on the side of your abdomen

Just use Light Front Only Steel, and have shield behind you for Hard S

[quartz patio]

I've been using light kevlar and I've been doing fine personally

[toxic harness]

kevlar... why...

[bleak birch]

Perfection

[exotic slate]

I call it
the 3 senses
Cuz you cant see or hear shit

[quartz patio]

speed

I am speed

[toxic harness]

That's until you get folded by a mf with a rifle

[quartz patio]

you just have to fold them first

[toxic harness]

Try that on Hard mode

[quartz patio]

yeah I've done it before

twisted nerve is . something else though . that's where my hard mode kevlar dreams died

[toxic harness]

Resort to Light Steel armor

Or heavy if you want to be more comfortable

[restive mulch]

light ass steel

[quartz patio]

nothing screams comfort like a massive slab of steel on your chest

[exotic slate]

Ok just hide and seek next
then I will have S ranked every mission in the main game
WOOO

[toxic harness]

You'll have a mental breakdown, unless you are doing Standard S

[exotic slate]

Im doint standard yes

[toxic harness]

why not hard

[exotic slate]

Cuz il do that next

Should i take an actual loadout into Hide and Seek or keep my dumbass flashbang setup

[quartz patio]

H - Brain
A - Aneurysm
R
D

[toxic harness]

Jot realy

[restive mulch]

Hard S rank is more like getting a brain prion disease

[toxic harness]

My brian is already having a disease

[restive mulch]

but prions are unkillable

it’s like super cancer

[toxic harness]

how if I got none? it will be starving

[restive mulch]

beds are lowkey slept on

[toxic harness]

balls

[toxic harness]

may want to do some alternatives

[exotic slate]

one mag of pepperballs

[restive mulch]

piss is stored in the balls

[supple scaffold]

hey, why do I have high latency when I'm playing with my friends?

[restive mulch]

probably your internet

[supple scaffold]

its not

[restive mulch]

it is

[supple scaffold]

I have 500Mbps with 50 ping

[exotic slate]

what part of the world yall in

[supple scaffold]

we all play from Medellin Colombia using US east servers

[exotic slate]

no idea then

[restive mulch]

you’re using US east servers in….Colombia?

[trim dirge]

i just had an xbox player kick me from his game because he shot at me and killed a teammate so i killed him 😂

[supple scaffold]

Its the best servers for us in every game

[restive mulch]

well that’s the reason perhaps

it seems every mp lobby is 200ms or higher anyways in my experience

[toxic harness]

average lobbies

[quartz patio]

He clearly wasn't ready

[lapis shuttle]

is there any mod to increase the number of swat AI?

[supple scaffold]

Same, when I host my ping is stable but the ping of my friends isn't

[exotic slate]

Wooo
I got the watch

[grave crown]

can I kill suspects in sleeper agent achievement?

[languid dagger]

Whats the best map for breaching ram achievement?

[exotic slate]

If i die and the save gets deleted i keep the watch right?

[lapis shuttle]

Yeah

[exotic slate]

Does it delete the save or just make ita normal mode?

[lapis shuttle]

the save gets deleted if it's an Ironman mode save

[exotic slate]

👍

[twin obsidian]

Idles of march is so fun

[cloud tree]

Bro what happened to the game???? It was fine like 2 weeks ago

[lost inlet]

not fine in what way?

[fiery vortex]

Alr crack build idea.

Stab vest, SCAR-H only. Full auto mandatory, finish an entire mission before anyone bleeds to death.

You can get teammates for this and have them die.

[fiery vortex]

Full steel heavy armour, MKIV only.

[grizzled plover]

has anyone done the sleeper agent achievement, i need some tips bc i guess im just doing something wrong

[restive mulch]

have you tried sleeping?

[grizzled plover]

no

i need to do this fuckass achievement

and each locked door takes at least 8 kicks

[grave crown]

I wonder if I can kill them

cuz I couldnt get achievement even if I killed 15 npcs in 15 sec of one another

[grizzled plover]

bug or not

fuckass game

[grave crown]

yea it's definitely bugged and unobtainable

maybe i should try arrest them

[grizzled plover]

gl w that

this achievement is stupid

[grave crown]

we can use Ai teammates right?

[grizzled plover]

yea

after this achievement im not playing this game for a long while

[velvet steeple]

I heard gas is fucked

[grizzled plover]

i wouldnt know, rarely use it

[bold plank]

Is it just me, or is Hard Mode now outright impossible to do with SWAT AI? I swear they manage to die every time they peek a corner

I remember them being utterly cracked out before 1.0, now it feels like I'm babysitting them rather than giving them orders

[marsh lark]

The current SWAT AI is meh

[grizzled plover]

the ai is stupid dumb

[velvet steeple]

are you running AI with heavy steel

if so the real trick is abuse AI perks

[bold plank]

I am! Is that why their IQ has dropped by 50 points?

[bold plank]

I am all ears ahah

[velvet steeple]

two negotiators make suspects have 50% chance to surrender on first yell

[grizzled plover]

its always been that way

[velvet steeple]

armor and nutritionist with that does well

that’s what got me through Ironman with none dead

[bold plank]

Do four nutritionists give me body-builder AI?

Thank you by the way, I'll steal that setup

[bold plank]

I recall playing a few months before the 1.0 release and it was a breeze

[grizzled plover]

i usually find most troubles on rust best bc my team forgot what the hell breach and enter means

[spiral tundra]

Hi guys

[rich forum]

The SWAT AI is on and off for me they can drop suspects like nothing but sometimes they look at them as they get mag dumped

[grizzled plover]

literally

[rich forum]

The suspect AI I feel is the same as well though sometimes they suck and miss everything but sometimes they have crazy dead eye

[spiral tundra]

#🎬ron-clips-and-media message

[grizzled plover]

this i hate the most

[spiral tundra]

Perfect example of AI just staring

[spiral tundra]

My AI be Arthur Morgan bro

[rich forum]

That is the reason I can't trust my SWAT every time the breach I take point and move in front for the most part

[spiral tundra]

I’d already killed a dude in there so I presumed there wouldn’t be another

[bold plank]

Man's a pacifist

[rich forum]

It looked like he prioritized bagging the gun in that clip as well for me it seems to be the leading cause of death amongst my SWAT especially when cuffing civilians

[spiral tundra]

He was standing next to a civ

[rich forum]

Oh I see he dropped his gun yeah idk they just tend to go brain dead near civilians

I thought he bagged something for a second

[grizzled plover]

the ai is terrible

[rich forum]

Real

I've been playing way before 1.0 and they haven't really changed unfortunately they slightly got tweaked I guess

[spiral tundra]

What’s some achievements I should go for first
I have the arrest ones, lockpick, the easy ones and the devil

[grizzled plover]

medal of valor maybe

[spiral tundra]

I could try with actual people
I ain’t doing that with AI

[rich forum]

I mean yeah medal of valor would be easy with people

Just s tier all base game levels

[spiral tundra]

It’s hard mode right?

[rich forum]

No just standard I'm not sure if there is one for doing them on hard

[grizzled plover]

for that its just complete every base mission

[rich forum]

Fool me once and fool me twice are relatively easy

You could also do Off Duty if you haven't already

[spiral tundra]

Are there limits to what your team can use on hanged man

[spiral tundra]

I’ve done them, on accident

[rich forum]

If you're doing with AI I could only assume yes

But I also don't know because I haven't tried I personally don't like hide and seek

[spiral tundra]

I’ve heard people say they just can’t use flashes or mirrors but idk

[rich forum]

You only can use taser, flashes and bash

[spiral tundra]

Yeah
I think the AI can use guns tho

[rich forum]

I just looked it up and apparently no AI SWAT can't you can't even lockpick or use mirror gun

But once again have no idea how true that is

[spiral tundra]

I think they can’t shoot or smth

It’s kinda hard to tell

Everyone’s saying diff things

[spring condor]

If you bring a friend that can go lethal it makes hanged man alot easier. Only YOU have to use the tazer/flashbang
Unless this has been patched

[spiral tundra]

I’m fairly sure friend can’t use tactical

[spring condor]

I've carried people to get their achievement while going full lethal and they only use a tazer

So unless it's been patched

[spiral tundra]

Do my AI have to have no armour or helmet on off duty

[thin scroll]

Has anyone noticed on the map rust belt looking outside from inside is extremely hard because the brightness outside seems drastically higher than it should be

I’ve messed with my settings but I’m still noticing the same effect

[amber dock]

No

[marsh lark]

I think that is normal though, even from a real life perspective. You will get blinded by the sun if you go from a dark place to a bright place because your pupils will extend when it is bright and narrow when it is dark

[thin scroll]

Well using that logic wouldn’t my shaded anti flash goggles counter that

[amber dock]

Well the game doesn’t use logic that far. Ron ain’t arma 3

[marsh lark]

Of course that things that decrease brightness would not give such a drastic effect on your eyes when leaving a dark place, however that is just cosmetic in the game, no practical usage

[thin scroll]

It’s literally like looking directly at the sun no matter the angle of which the sun is to me so you’ve kinda woofed my point

Its definitely not meant to be like that

[marsh lark]

Any light shining from a direction will decrease your visibility in that direction no matter if you look at the light or not

Patricularly in dark places

[thin scroll]

Well thanks for your absolutely useless real life logic input on my in game experience

[amber dock]

The game has always had lots of issues with lighting in general since they moved to UE5

[spiral tundra]

Ok ima try do off duty

With my AI carrying

How many objectives must you do

[marsh lark]

Point is, if you leave a dark place in the game, you will get blinded and there is no way to get rid of that, putting the fog at 0 and ambient occlusion at 0 is still not going to fix what you describe

[amber dock]

Just finish the map with C grade

[grizzled plover]

been trying to get this achievement since 5 hours ago

[marsh lark]

Either way being upset about a small graphic inconvenience for you is a bit petty if I do say so myself

[thin scroll]

It’s just annoying because how the map layout is the only options really are to use the buildings for cover

I’m trying to S rank every map on hard solo I need every advantage possible and this one is proving to inconvenience me more than it should is all

[spiral tundra]

It’s sketchy having no armour

[marsh lark]

Well, I know that you mean the barn for example and yes, it fucks up your visibility. It should not exactly work like that, but it does in the game.

And that thing is unavoidable.

[spiral tundra]

One suspect just stood with hands up and won’t get down even after bash

How great

[amber dock]

Only 2-3 suspects are outside in general on rust belt. Everyone else is inside hiding

[marsh lark]

I had that happen couple of times, bashing them with a tazer makes them comply

[tight hawk]

Today im gonna do hide n seek IS it hard?

[spiral tundra]

Off duty is actually kinda easy

[spiral tundra]

Just don’t get caught in the open, they have rifles and there’s a lot of long angles

[tight hawk]

But isnt the map mostly Open?

[spiral tundra]

Yeah

[crude prism]

yeah, but nearly all the objects in the environment are metal, so you can safely hide behind them and shoulder out

[spiral tundra]

I recommend having someone with a shield to eat bullets

[tight hawk]

Ok 👌

[amber dock]

I prefer hiding under the map but whatever works for yall

[crude prism]

based and molepilled

[spiral tundra]

I mean I’m just sat behind a shield but

[amber dock]

Molepilled?

[amber dock]

Ah

Twisted nerve was supposed to have that with suspects hiding in the mud

But never happened

[grizzled plover]

thats scary

[spiral tundra]

Why are the swat AI actual crack shots with the shield pistol

I just watched bro headshot a suspect from 10 metres away from behind the shield

And I got by the book and off duty from that

(I sat behind a shield whole mission)

[grizzled plover]

are the doors in 3 letter triad made of steel or smthn bc they never take one kick and always like 8

[spiral tundra]

Well let’s go I got magician and due process at once

[gritty hollow]

how are my shotgun shots not even killing them

im like right infront and it takes another shot

[spiral tundra]

Ima try this MP5/10mm

I like the burst modes

[marble flume]

good luck lol, all pistol calibers are pretty shit besides .50 AE

[floral peak]

Five-Seven pretty good

[spiral tundra]

USP is good

[marble flume]

5.7x28mm isn't a pistol caliber, hence why its actually good lmao

[marble flume]

I mean, I guess .45 ACP is better than 9mm, but not by much

The Five-Seven is almost laughably better than any other pistol besides the MK V

[floral peak]

Im gonna continue to search for people to help S rank

cya

[spiral tundra]

What can 10x25 penetrate

[grizzled plover]

it would be nice if i could give my ai a gun so they could kill regardless of where they shoot

[narrow zenith]

Sometimes I’ll shoot someone with a shotty from medium range and obliterate them and then other times I’ll shoot someone from close range and just slightly inconvenience them

[pine canyon]

Me

[late marten]

anyone from finland?

[pine canyon]

I am from Bofa

[late marten]

wheres that?

[pine canyon]

Bofa these nuts in yo mouth

[marsh lark]

Voll getting executed today again

[pine canyon]

Relax lib 😂😂😂😂😂😂 it’s called dark humor 😈😈😈😂😂😂

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[crude prism]

beautiful, this one is going up on the wall

[cedar mulch]

Why does Void only update the game a few times a year?

Do they think their updates are great?

[pine canyon]

What I tell the cops when they find 14 bodies in my basement

[late marten]

😐

[tight hawk]

ok time to get in hide n seek for my first time

[covert pulsar]

man

[lofty grove]

Aye got A+ on elephant 🔥🔥

[pine canyon]

A+ these nuts in yo mouth

[lofty grove]

Sybau 🥀✌️✌️

[pine canyon]

I am the bay harbor gooner

[stone bay]

Are there traps at 3 letter triad?

[amber dock]

no

[stone bay]

Alright, is beach entrance dangerous? Can i get like shot from the building?

[twilit mulch]

yes

[stone bay]

Il take main entrance then

[twilit mulch]

Loading bay is the safest option

[stone bay]

Why?

[twilit mulch]

because you won't encounter hostiles right away and you have an easier approach to clearing the rest of the map

[stone bay]

Alright, thanks

[twilit mulch]

any time, best of luck

[knotty wing]

'morning folks

how's everyone doing today so far?

ah shit wait, wrong chat

[quasi coral]

I can't believe we all bought the Judge bodypillow to sleep with tonight

[tight hawk]

just completed my first time hide n seek with a B I get new missions in a other category :)

can anyone tell me what the soft objectives in hunger strike are im lost

[pine drum]

Am I the only one who thinks Mindjot guards are still a bit too willing to resist?

[spiral tundra]

It’s kinda hard to tell who’s police so yes

Also people have probably imitated police before

“We have people trying to break in here all the time” and they say smth about they look just like you

[pine drum]

Don't get me wrong! They're better! Just feel like some are still too shoot first ask questions later.

[spiral tundra]

Well considering they’ve probably had people breaking in acting like police they probably are like that

[pine drum]

Still, it would be PRETTY HARD to impersonate a well equipped SWAT team like that. Just purely due to how expensive everything is.

[spiral tundra]

I mean also they’re probably looking at a glance
You won’t be inspecting their equipment when they’re raising guns at you

[pine drum]

Some guards straight up tank multiple beanbag rounds but honestly? IDM it. Especially because I've already S ranked the whole game just to get it out of the way.

[spiral tundra]

I’m fairly sure the more you shoot the more resistant they get tho

[pine drum]

Well, problem is I shoot them once, they shrug it off.

[tight hawk]

damn

[pine drum]

Shoot them twice... SHRUG IT OFF

[tight hawk]

i only just completed every mission

[pine drum]

Also, I don't think LTL has that effect, and I've shot people with lethal weapons and they stop resisting

Which TBF I would too if I took a .45 JHP to the limb.

[spiral tundra]

I mean on sins of the father my teammate shot 3 flashes at one dude and he still killed him
Then gave up to 1 of my beanbags?

[pine drum]

I mean, I've played since it's initial release.

[tight hawk]

[placid hemlock]

holy shit i finally s tiered relapse

deadass took 30 tries

[pine drum]

Yeah LTL runs will make you realize why police shoot people in certain situations

Also, I like how Standard gives you more room for personal judgment with the RoE

Cause... I feel like that's more realistic

[spiral tundra]

How 😭 with AI?

With AI I’d get that
AI absolutely buns

Is there any way to check my standard grade on some missions?

Currently going for Mov achievement but I can’t check if I get S before on some missions on standard due to me doing hard on them

[placid hemlock]

yep with ai

theyre so bad

[ocean cargo]

They have one of the highest morales in the game for suspects it’s explained in the briefing

They just got raided by fake cops like the week before you actually raid them

Just dump em with bean bags don’t restrain yourself. Best thing about the bean bag shotgun is you can immediately shoot first ask questions later

[spiral tundra]

Dude why can I watch a film in the time it takes for my game to start up or a join a friend

[tame valve]

if i play ironman mode with mods does it track

[unreal palm]

Who’s Ron?

[tame valve]

ready or not

[patent kindle]

is there a known bug with the overpass in Relapse Hard mode?

[spiral tundra]

What happened

[leaden iron]

Ron's me mate from the pub

He supports Tottenham

[amber dock]

It will

[leaden iron]

Yo guys have you even shot a civilian and the tried to kill the NPC team mates that are now trying to kill you?

[deep patio]

The only times where my AI wanted to kill me was when I executed a civ after a failed S Rank attempt lmao

[leaden iron]

After that it turns into a horror game. Especially when your team mates are far away

You don't when when they gonna pop out and glaze you with lead

[deep patio]

Being chased around by a crazed crackhead that is the last suspect on twisted nerve is enough of a problem 💀

[leaden iron]

I swear sometimes I hate the larger maps for the game. Theres always this 1 civilian that you can't find

And in the end you decide to shoot someone so you can restart the level

[spiral tundra]

It’s funny how the AI somehow kill you with beanbag when you kill surrendered on non lethal

[lean gate]

I have the dlc, my bro will buy ron soon. If we play together and im host. Will both of us be able to play dlc missions?

[dark tartan]

yes, only the host needs to own the DLC for everyone in the party to be able to play the dlc m,aaps

[ocean cargo]

are flashbang launchers just the way to go now for non lethal with ai

[waxen yacht]

Hey guys do you recommend someone to always use a shield in your AI swat team?

[lapis shuttle]

Beanbag headshots are lethal.

[lapis shuttle]

If you're on standard it's not necessary. But if you're on hard it is essential.

[spiral tundra]

I’m wearing helmet and ballistic mask

[waxen yacht]

ohh i am on hard mode atm and i have played all this time without it

[spiral tundra]

They’re not penetrating it with a beanbag

[waxen yacht]

im currently on Lawmaker!

[lapis shuttle]

I'm pretty sure you have to die after you have the "kill me" command no matter what, If you barricaded yourself in a room with door wedges after some time you would just randomly die.

[waxen yacht]

Do you recommend both Beta and Alpha to use a shield?

[lapis shuttle]

I think 1 team mate on each group should have a shield, The others can have the utility of your choice.

[waxen yacht]

Sounds good, i'll try that and see if its better

[unique arch]

Anyone know any good weapon mods that dont need a million other things to run?

[pine drum]

The irony of them having one of the highest morales in the game bro. I would not be willing to die for a fuckass company that's about to be shut down.

[amber dock]

Idk how 2 other mods is considered a lot. Like majority of gun mods need 2 other mods that are mandatory for them to work.

[unique arch]

because those 2 mods need 2 more mods to work as well

[pine drum]

Like I get a dude was just killed a week ago, but that would make me LESS willing to continue working there.

[amber dock]

SMM doesn’t need anything else to run?

In fact so doesn’t item asset loader

Both mods literally need 0 other mods for them to work

[smoky cedar]

I recommend Alpha and Charlie

[smoky cedar]

almost all gun mods require two mods for the gun to work:
simple mod menu (all in one)
item asset loader

the others are things like attachments for the gun custom attachments to work or other fixes OR recommendations

[buoyant pecan]

They got raided by people impersonating cops so they don’t seem to believe you when you say you’re cops

[pine drum]

Yeah I know the lore. Personally I just don't get it. Again, my ass would not be willing to die for that company. If I resist the people who I don't think are cops, I'm gonna die anyway. If I comply, there's a chance I won't. Even if they AREN'T cops it ain't worth my life to protect some servers or data.

[ocean cargo]

when potentially means losing your job seeing how the job market is crashing in the game and theres a ton of homeless on the streets not as unreasonable as you think

[pine drum]

Again, the place is already shutting down... So...

[ocean cargo]

yes but its them being fired by the security company that employs them in the first place theres always places to protect but if they get fired from the company because they failed to do their job than theyre missing out

[smoky cedar]

You know theres a reason why people resist who they think are fake cops; one of their members was kidnapped and killed the week before Sinuous Trail takes place.

They don't want that to happen to them which is why they resist.

[pine drum]

Again! I'm aware! But again 100% chance if death vs possibility of surviving

You got 5 heavily armed dudes, all wearing armor

Even if I kill one, the other 4 will for sure kill me.

[smoky cedar]

The reason why they resist is partially due to intimidation OR submission. I'm pretty sure I heard a voice of an arrested suspect say "please don't kill me"

[pine drum]

Yeah ik

[smoky cedar]

They also resist due to FEAR. They are so scared that they are gonna die just like their employee that they can't do anything but surrender

[ocean cargo]

seeing how heavily armed some of the suspects in the game are, its not that hard it seems in LS to impersonate swat teams, especially given the hx of very disgruntled vets which im sure have plenty of connections to the LSPD

[smoky cedar]

And also the fact that we can wear whatever we want as LS SWAT 😂

[pine drum]

I mean... Canonical uniform...

But like, I get it.

[smoky cedar]

True. but there's always room for impersonation

[pine drum]

IDK, my ass would just be out of there the moment I realize I'm gonna lose my job anyway and someone got killed

[smoky cedar]

For me, NPCs are more likely to run away than resist.

I'm never shot at unless I used force on a suspect so that enemy AI's morale goes down really fast if you kill or incapacitate an enemy

[pine drum]

I mean, TBF I've found that if you keep a reasonable distance but make sure to maintain line of sight with a retreating suspect they tend to surrender

Even the Hand on Neon Tomb. If they haven't started shooting, and you pursue them if they attempt to fall back they tend to surrender.

Just make sure the next room doesn't have suspects in it or you will get shot.

[smoky cedar]

Generally when I chase any form of armored suspect, be it light or heavy (outside of the mindjot mission ofc) they tend to run away and then either try to flank you and if that's not an option they hide behind a wall and when you chase them, thinking they went elsewhere, they begin firing

So I usually just wallbang if they run away if it's not Mindjot because they have concrete walls

[pine drum]

I think it's a thing where if the AI detects they're within your line of fire while retreating they rapidly lose morale.

Because again, you got to maintain direct eye contact with them. If they break your line of sight, it doesn't work.

[smoky cedar]

If you look away from a suspect in general its bad. But as long as you have line of fire you're good

cough free look cough

God discovering free look existed in late 2023 was the best thing ever

[tough reef]

Anyone know how to mute players radio push to talk sound effect Beep Beep ?

[smoky cedar]

cant

[hollow blaze]

Just S Ranked Lethal Obsession on first try

[zenith flower]

Does an officer leaving by mental health count as losing an officer in iron man mode?

[bleak birch]

Yes

[zenith flower]

Great.

[bleak birch]

Lost a good run because I got stabbed to death

[zenith flower]

That nearly happend to me but I conveniently had two officers and a p90 right on the person to which they got mowed down. Also got a trophy off it so it created a video clip

[fossil ferry]

is there no pc multiplayer lobbies or are they all js modded now

[marsh lark]

There are a lot of lobbies where people play with no mods

[fossil ferry]

ive either been joining not a single soul that speaks or console players

[marsh lark]

weird

[fading anvil]

I feel like it's probably planned for the future, but it would be cool to see a mission where you quell a prison riot/outbreak.

just use the firehose on em 😎

[heady acorn]

For the hard mode trophy, do we have to get a certain grade or complete all objectives like what counts?

[amber dock]

Get grade at least C or above to be safe if you wanna be super safe then got like grade above B

[pine drum]

Looking at some of the LSS descriptions of suspects and POIs they seem to do a better job at writing morally grey characters now.

[heady acorn]

But we did grade c on valley of the dolls and it didn’t count, i think it’s because we killed the main guy

[amber dock]

Yeah also try to complete all main objectives if one is crossed out as failed then it probs will not count either. Soft objectives shouldn’t matter

[stoic thistle]

There's definitely a theme of good and hardworking people being forced to work for unsavory types.

[pine drum]

Yep

[tender jewel]

is there a way to refill ammo in coop missions?

[next sigil]

Is the AI messed up again? I've just had one of my AI Operators run straight at a guy unloading a pistol into the AI and the AI just did NOT react at all

Didn't shoot back, nothing, and just died after getting within ~2 meters of the guy

No obstacles, nothing inbetween the two

[toxic harness]

Standard or Hard?

[next sigil]

Hard

[desert island]

ive had a swat completely tank a full pistol mag from enemy

[toxic harness]

Hard mode, suspect ai has more health as we have less health. It's better to just go non lethal for hard, lethal on standard

[desert island]

then the swat only lived cuz the suspect surrendered

[toxic harness]

"Oh fuck he ate my whole mag!"

[desert island]

bro he literally didnt even react what a monster

[next sigil]

That has nothing to do with what I said at all

[desert island]

i shouldnt mess wit this guy

[toxic harness]

Yes it does cuz suspects can tank more shots than standard ai

[desert island]

hes talkin about how swat ai r just dumb

[next sigil]

I think you can't read.
The AI DID NOT SHOOT WHATSOEVER

[desert island]

they didnt use to be this inactive

[toxic harness]

Simple, mind manipulation:3

[desert island]

they wuld like shred everyone on sight

but now they r like pacifists

[toxic harness]

Idk if SWAT ai can also bleed

If so, that's the reason.

[next sigil]

The issue I have is that half the time they do not react AT ALL to suspects shooting at them

[desert island]

i nvr seen them bleed out

[next sigil]

They just stand there, walk towards the hostile, and die without firing back at them

[desert island]

sometimes they just all die without doing anything

[toxic harness]

Does the suspect have a knife? What mission you're on?

[desert island]

sometimes they get stuck in reload swap weapon loop

they r really glitchy and devs rather do animations

[next sigil]

As said in the original message, it was a pistol being magdumped into the AI.
It's on Relapse, I love the mission but the bugged AI makes it so hard

[desert island]

just do the mission without AI

[toxic harness]

Yeah, or find people in #🔎looking-for-players

[desert island]

i dont even bring them

[toxic harness]

True randoms will be worse tho

[next sigil]

Or the devs just fix their code idk

[desert island]

AI used to be able to complete the map alone

now they can all die to 1 guy

[outer moss]

me to im not better

[spare escarp]

guys there's a bug where if i send a civil to the exit, the civil remains standing and i cannot do anything, there's a fix?

[toxic harness]

These tacos so good imma spare the Los Locos

[desert island]

nopr

[spare escarp]

i endend valley in hard but i've got 2 civils bugged

[spare escarp]

f

wait one unstucked

ok fixed

i threw a flashbang and spammed the yell

[desert island]

how were they stuck then

[toxic harness]

Prob didn't comply within few shouts

[outer moss]

i just shoot them

a headshot will do the trick you dont listen im making widows and orphans

[toxic harness]

[outer moss]

-200

me when civs dont listen

[surreal merlin]

is the iron man mode run worth it for the developer ruined watch? i am thinking of trying it after i finish (if i will of course) s ranking every mission

to me the fallen officer watch seems cooler

[tired jungle]

It's the ugliest watch in the whole game but a fun challenge none the less

[spare escarp]

they didn't comply if i yelled or spammed bash

[desert island]

i dont even see my wrist item

[short crow]

Shoot next to them

Or shoot them 😈

[spare escarp]

i used a flashbang

[patent heart]

Are suspect counts variable? Did Greased palms and only got 18 suspects, but the last time I did that same mission i got 21. Similar situation for Valley of the dolls. 16 suspects on one run, 18 in another.