👮ron-discussion

[solemn patio]

They have so many 😭😭

[plain raptor]

Basically the wars in "developing" countries have been fought with 3-4 rifles, which is crazy given that most of them are 70 years old

[crude prism]

no clue, but I know that if you plug in a controller you can literally have your bullets just "poof" and stop firing at all

not hitreg issues, like the hitscan traces don't even fire

there's another bug where the bullets will start coming out 180 degrees in reverse from where you are looking

there's also issues with the bullet magnetism from the new controller aim assist (which could be behind the other two)

[solemn patio]

They have no reason to have such insane aim

[plain raptor]

It's not so bad in Standard, in Hard they're almost superhuman

[frail pier]

Yeah it's literally a generic controller setup they're using, which was made by some random person. Idk if that's meant to be used in a full released game environment with 0 changes to it.

[solemn patio]

I suck at tactical shooters when Im vastly outnumbered

[crude prism]

[solemn patio]

Help me :(

[frail pier]

I was kinda tilted seeing that tbh💀

[hearty umbra]

no just flash every room and you'll be fine

[lean edge]

it's honestly such a weird issue. For example, sometimes when free leaning, bullets won’t hit until I fully peek out, but other times they hit really easily

[plain raptor]

That's also an issue, no HRT would roll on a situation like most of these levels with just a five-man element

[solemn patio]

I know bro

We need full length rifles tbh

[hearty umbra]

we need frags

and a rpg

[solemn patio]

We need a browning m2

[hearty umbra]

and a 50 cal rifle

[plain raptor]

I need them to add the regular G36, on which I will proceed to attach a suppressor, so I can bump on every corner and door frame

[hearty umbra]

matter of fact they should just wall bang everyone with mg's mounted on a military jeep

[solemn patio]

YEAHH

[plain raptor]

Jokes aside, I would appreciate a "sniper shot" feature, similar to SWAT 4

[solemn patio]

You go, mr can abuser!

[hearty umbra]

where would i even use a sniper rifle in this map you cant create much distance

and the reflections off the windows make you blind

[plain raptor]

the fast food level in the DLC could easily feature it

[crude prism]

RoN uses constant offset, or "true straight"

optics and lasers are not zeroed for any distance, while still simulating offset

[hearty umbra]

true

[plain raptor]

the oil rig one too

[plain raptor]

Yeah, I figured

[solemn patio]

I wish you could engage at farther distances without them easily homing in on you like a missile

[hearty umbra]

yeah they get better aim the farther youre away from them

[plain raptor]

I worked a bit in the armory when I was doing my service, it was fun looking at the expensive rifles the consripts didn't have access to

[solemn patio]

Half of them are using irons that arent remotely zeroed while firing full auto

[toxic harness]

They're just better

[hearty umbra]

half of them are wearing sun glasses inside a building

like that motel map

[plain raptor]

Half of them are also doped up, who knows how they're benefitting from it

[solemn patio]

😭 😭 😭

[toxic harness]

I wish I would like to work in an armory or a gun safety instructor

[hearty umbra]

sunglasses, pitch black dark and they wall bang you

[crude prism]

see some good gucci rifles?

[spiral tundra]

Hunger strike is a peak mission

[solemn patio]

Tbh I wanna be a gunsmith one of these days

[hearty umbra]

does anyone actually like pumped shotguns in this game they feel so useless

in one pump they can get off 5 shots off into you

[spiral tundra]

I give my team Remingtons but

[plain raptor]

It's funny because they had some G3A4s, which we weren't using, only older A1s.

[frail pier]

590M slaps

[solemn patio]

They look sexy

[hearty umbra]

uh not when they do that john wick side step motion left and right

[solemn patio]

What country btw

[frail pier]

Hit your shots then

[plain raptor]

Among other rifles which I won't mention for various reasons

[plain raptor]

Greece

[hearty umbra]

2 people atleast one of them hitting your 5 times

[solemn patio]

Ohh

[frail pier]

Use cover? Skill issue?

[hearty umbra]

with a semi you blast them to bits before you even see them

[toxic harness]

I would be suprised to see Gucci making their own reciever styles

[crude prism]

send G3A4s stateside, please and thank you 🙏

[hearty umbra]

if you cant afford a b1301 just say it

[solemn patio]

🇬🇷

[frail pier]

[plain raptor]

I was explaining to some kids who were doing their service with me that weapons are not available everywhere, it depends on goverment decisions, law etc and that a HK91 is considered rare and therefore valuable in the States and they would look at me like I was explaining the Big Bang

[toxic harness]

Can we please use Aks besides the SLR?!

[hearty umbra]

no you get another pumped shotgun

[toxic harness]

NOOOOOOOOOOO

[solemn patio]

We need the USAS 12 trust

[hearty umbra]

can we get the new rifle the us military is switching over to

[toxic harness]

Street Sweeper when?

[hearty umbra]

4k per gun

[plain raptor]

Not before they drop it and switch back to 5.56

[hearty umbra]

4k is actually crazy though

for something thats gonna be standard issue or atleast planned to

[crude prism]

🦐

[solemn patio]

Everything in the games so shiny bro

[plain raptor]

That's what happens when you get something in smaller quantities and brand spanking new

[solemn patio]

Everything and everyone is oiked up

[hearty umbra]

true ig

[toxic harness]

I heard that they complain about the heavy frame when empty, more recoil than the M4, and it's by SIG

[hearty umbra]

but i doubt it'll be that much cheaper

[frail pier]

Not 🦐 issue here

[hearty umbra]

never ask why the video cuts after every kill

[amber dock]

https://tenor.com/view/krillin-it-krill-killing-it-killin-it-baneofbelial-gif-5099979609839776343

[toxic harness]

Bro is not John Wick

[plain raptor]

The recoil is larger, but I heard it's not a big issue, I can't remember though which issues they do consider significant

[crude prism]

u will not ragebait me with this I refuse

[floral peak]

🫲 💥 , 🦵 💥 expirience with shotguns

[marsh lark]

Yeah but I would prefer having it an all glass instead of the black frame around. I know there is a mod that does exactly that, not sure if its updated

[toxic harness]

I only know the weight from a .233 caliber is ofc makes it heavier and more recoil

[marsh lark]

Just the tiny frame being plastic

[frail pier]

If you watched more than 4 seconds he kills 5 in one area... Cope more

[hearty umbra]

is it accurate to fully rack the shotgun pulling it up into the air wouldnt it be better to just rack it while it's pointing at the target

[floral peak]

facts

[toxic harness]

favorite weapon from each class?

[plain raptor]

Yeah, ironic how the major upside of the switch to 5.56 from 7.62 was the reduced weight, which would equal more ammo carried per solider

[amber dock]

Spreadsheet man doesn’t use guns, he uses his spreadsheet to magically take all suspects alive

[floral peak]

G36, MP7, benelli, MKV

[marsh lark]

Spreadsheet man uses special ammo that actually kills suspects

[toxic harness]

Bro has another spreadsheet for each route with every chance of ai spawn in that location. He is not Decino (Doom Stats guy)

[toxic harness]

I thought it was .223 not 7.62

[frail pier]

uhh where?

[toxic harness]

his brain

[plain raptor]

Ah, yes, metric vs imperial

[solemn patio]

Not gonna lie, i think sig is bribing the military

[frail pier]

Because I made the same thing for myself and a few others

[amber dock]

I asked him once if he could carry me in Ron and when we did he smh finished greased palms in 10 seconds. When I asked how he just vanished like he was never there. Just got a dm that said ‘you’re welcome:)’

[plain raptor]

I work in the optics industry and I do not think you're reaching by saying this

[toxic harness]

I love being American. WHAT THE FUCK IS A KILOMETER?!

[solemn patio]

Yeah, ngl glock and beretta better

[crude prism]

MK18, MP5SD, 870CQB, and USP45.

Launcher category is not real because it is cringe

[plain raptor]

"Kilometers per hour converted to football fields per freedoms"

[floral peak]

I love being Russian, WHAT THE BLYAT IS MILE?!!!

[toxic harness]

cant believe I disagree with the stats guy

[marsh lark]

American conversions don't make sense bruh

[hearty umbra]

did gas get nerfed into oblivion

[solemn patio]

WHAT THE FUCK IS A KILOMETER

[crude prism]

"favorite weapon" and "what do you use and/or what is the best" are not the same question

[solemn patio]

IS IT A FOOD

[crude prism]

Favorite rifle would be the MK16 or MK17 if they weren't BUTCHERED

Favorite SMG would probably be the MPX if it also wasn't BUTCHERED

M1014 is based, but I really like the 870 pump for funsies.

[toxic harness]

Imma alter your stats that you'll be spreading misinformation

[plain raptor]

200 IQ joke

[floral peak]

I wonder what was the creator of imperial system thinking while creating it
"hmmmmmm, feet"

[marsh lark]

I love PDW despite it's higher recoil just because I play Unturned and various games where PDW is a gun I love, in the earlier stages of RoN I always used mods that replace some gun and make it look like a PDW until I did not have to, because we have an actual PDW now

[frail pier]

Sorry you only get shit recoil and no more 1 tappy cheese on hard

[toxic harness]

We can use feet. It's best for distances (the person said this way before learning about foot size)

[plain raptor]

Yeah, nice try redcoat!🇺🇸 🦅

[solemn patio]

Dude, the British used it before us…

[floral peak]

did i say Americans created it?

[solemn patio]

That means they sniff tea

Not feet

Atp I might run the g3

[floral peak]

Ah cyka, my evil russian plan was uncovered 😠

[solemn patio]

COMMIE

[plain raptor]

I got PTSD with the G3, I'll never use it

[solemn patio]

Wym

[plain raptor]

I've stripped and reassembled it so many times, it pisses me off whenever I even see it

[floral peak]

Yesterday one of my homies was yapping about sum women he sold in Port

[solemn patio]

You should try therapeutic FN FAL strippings trust

[toxic harness]

Meanwhile that same gun has the boot stock on the shelves in the armory

[plain raptor]

also it is so obsolete as a "platform" (the term didn't even exist in the 50s) that it's like trying to win a F1 race with a 70 year car

[floral peak]

VOID rage baiting fr fr

[old pivot]

Source

[toxic harness]

The germans are gonna be hella mad

[frail pier]

Always have been

[crude prism]

both mk16 and mk17 PROPER versions are on the armory shelves

right colors, no awful rail extensions, boots and all

[spiral tundra]

Guys is hunger strike an easy S in your opinions

[floral peak]

yeah

[solemn patio]

WHAT THE FUCK

[floral peak]

VOID rage bait at its finest

[toxic harness]

VOID! REVERT THOSE CHANGES TO OUR MK SCARS, AND ADD MORE DIFFCULT MISSIONS LIKE 3LT, AND MY LIFe is yours...

[plain raptor]

I'm surprised they got the wrong stock for the 416, since they're using the licence

[crude prism]

classic void ragebait

[spiral tundra]

Icl they said they took the civs hostage in hunger strike and I didn’t see it, idk if that’s what I stingered in #🎬ron-clips-and-media tho

[floral peak]

https://tenor.com/view/monsters-vs-aliens-jello-me-showing-big-chungus-memes-to-my-friends-gif-22368570

[floral peak]

literally void

[frail pier]

Imagine adding a pistol that does more damage than a rifle

[crude prism]

https://tenor.com/view/monsters-vs-aliens-jello-me-showing-big-chungus-memes-to-my-friends-gif-22368570

[floral peak]

MKV:

[floral peak]

huh, why my didnt work

[marsh lark]

3 letter triad is so ass sometimes

Out of all Dark Waters missions, it holds as the worst one imo

[spiral tundra]

Guys what secondary should I use

[solemn patio]

Should I lowk just kill the terrorist leader dude in relapse

[crude prism]

it does 660 fucking damage with JHP chest shots

7.62x51 JHP does 180
slugs do 250
every pellet of buckshot is 320 on an unarmored person

[upper moat]

Hey guys I'm new to the server, any tips for the game?, I just downloaded it

[floral peak]

3 letter triad was even worse before 2nd patch

[plain raptor]

positive affirmations

[solemn patio]

WHAT

[toxic harness]

Just hit your shots

[upper moat]

Okay ill try

[spiral tundra]

Pistol..

[frail pier]

Very Void Interactive of them

[floral peak]

Now im curious

[crude prism]

the MKV handgun is better than most primaries, assuming you can aim

[toxic harness]

Taser

[marsh lark]

MKV is your 1tap friend, there is only one instance where you have to 2 tap afaik

[spiral tundra]

Find a gun that suits you with decent stopping power and recoil

[floral peak]

VOID! LET ME USE TASER WITH RIOT SHIELD, AND MY LIFE IS YOURS!

[spiral tundra]

Also don’t use full auto

[upper moat]

Okay, and for the civilian?

[plain raptor]

Consider that suspects can be holding any angle possible, lean whenever possible and check your corners.

[toxic harness]

I love Hard mode that makes weapons like:

• 7.62 Rifles
• Shotguns
• Launchers
• MKV

Only viable for that difficulty

[spiral tundra]

Civs just get your AI to tie them up, make sure not to shoot them

[upper moat]

Okay

[floral peak]

imagine if some suspects had MKV

[upper moat]

I'll try

[frail pier]

What....

[plain raptor]

If everything fails, turn off your bodycam

[spiral tundra]

Btw use of force is smth some new people don’t get

You can only shoot if they point a gun at you, charge you with a weapon, or shoot at you

[toxic harness]

Hell I used the Raiden p320 (9mm) on a an unarmored suspect and she ate like fucking 6 bullets into their chest before I get my head blown

[frail pier]

.300blk fucks on hard if you're min maxing. Idk what you're talking about.

[spiral tundra]

Or if they shoot civilians I think (correct me if I’m wrong)

[upper moat]

Thanks for the tips guys, also, is there a way I could out some mod?

[floral peak]

Damn.

[spiral tundra]

With hostages to secure you always want to flash or sting, they may kill hostage if you breach

[plain raptor]

that's bonkers

[charred copper]

no, just say that they were DoA and call it a day

[spiral tundra]

Is beretta good guys, or USP?

[charred copper]

neither. Mk5

[old pivot]

Crazy how hard 23 megabytes track goes for such a dogshit mission

[spiral tundra]

Only laser

[toxic harness]

dogshit? tf why

[marsh lark]

What do you mean "out some mod"?

[spiral tundra]

I think they mean try out

[charred copper]

yeah who uses flashlight on pistol

[upper moat]

Sorry, I mean how to put some mods

[plain raptor]

Dude, you arrest a weeb streamer, it's the best level in the game

[floral peak]

👆

[upper moat]

Since there's no workshop

[charred copper]

• other calibers cant do shit

[spiral tundra]

Magnum

[marsh lark]

Use nexusmods for the most part, and all of your mods go into E:\steam\steamapps\common\Ready Or Not\ReadyOrNot\Content\Paks

[charred copper]

no mag, reload= dumping all rounds

[upper moat]

Thank you for the help man

[spiral tundra]

Hit your shots and you won’t have to reload

[plain raptor]

the recoil looks INSANE

[charred copper]

3 suspects, you have 2 bullets. tac reload is a thing yk

[old pivot]

https://tenor.com/view/severance-mr-milcheck-true-morgan-freeman-dylan-gif-6682673649349126035

[marsh lark]

Oh, and make sure you download mods after 15th of July, those mods are for the most part guaranteed to work, of for mods after 7th of August as those will 100% work

[floral peak]

The damage hits harder than anything

[old pivot]

FUCK

[charred copper]

thats not how it works either, as armoured suspect wont get dropped by a single magnum round

[crude prism]

it's so peak

[upper moat]

Okay dokey

[floral peak]

"Introduce... Kitchen Gun!"

"That suspect looks filthy! BANG BANG BANG"

[old pivot]

But also, it’s maybe the biggest sign that if VOID was making the Fairfax level Lawrence would be guarded by 50 gangsters with assault rifles. This isn’t thematic, this isn’t fucking anything. Why is a crip shooting at me from a balcony in the swatting level

[floral peak]

we love MKV

[spiral tundra]

I mean I use JHP on pistols anyway

[floral peak]

https://tenor.com/view/i-love-you-kitchen-gun-kitchen-gun-bbc-kitchen-gun-gif-2074713026121495613

[charred copper]

you cant do shit on any level other than thank you come again

armoured suspects

[spiral tundra]

I tend to practically never use my sidearm

[floral peak]

legs, arms:

[toxic harness]

Well maybe you used the main path instead of going to the right side and then clear the house with Micheal's mom first

[plain raptor]

I always do that

[crude prism]

suspects can spawn on the 3rd floor balconies facing spawn if you're unlucky, it's stupid as shit

almost as bad as the "spawn with LOS to SWAT" exterior guys on Hunger Strike

[charred copper]

well shield pistol combo is really OP for lethal funnels

[toxic harness]

Same and it helped me go through standard

[charred copper]

you hit their arm. they lose 50 HP. they shoot you with full auto. you die.

[spiral tundra]

Ok ima carry 1 mag of AP and 1 JHP on my pistol

[toxic harness]

Yeah I literally got sprayed as soon I spawn in HS lol

[spiral tundra]

Now ima go get jump scared by charging crackheads on stolen Valor

[charred copper]

GA-51 vs SA-58
Which gun do you guys prefer?
Personally GA-51 for less recoil, and shorter gun length for CQB

[solemn patio]

Dude every ahmed, amir and fucking omar just jumped me

[plain raptor]

True, but it's not nearly as bad as getting shot while on the top floor of VotD, from the ground floor with the DJ stage and everything

[solemn patio]

They all had either an RPD or G3

[old pivot]

Fair enough, but it’s still insane that those guys are even there and roaming the floors for some reason

[solemn patio]

Jesus fucking christ they are like sharpshooters

[toxic harness]

You chose to start at the bottom instead of on top?

[crude prism]

hate this too, suspects are too good at spotting the top pixel of my helmet while I'm not even trying to peek out

[floral peak]

Nothing can be compared with Greased Palms, where you cant see shit but suspects see everything

[charred copper]

solution to greased palm is launcher and fuck ton of gas

[plain raptor]

I've stopped going straight through the main door, nowadays I use the stairs, stop in the "middle" and then return to clear the bottom floor last before the basement

[toxic harness]

THis aint 1.0 bro, change it up

[floral peak]

Too bad: gas does almost nothing on hard

[charred copper]

oh hard? dang. thats a death wish

[floral peak]

Have you seen my name?

[charred copper]

flash launcher to the face still works tho

[charred copper]

mb didnt comprehend

[toxic harness]

Plus you have M32A1 if PC or Deluxe Edition or Preorder Member

[plain raptor]

Quite similar rifles IRL, I haven't used the former to form an opinion

[floral peak]

my death wish was rejected

[charred copper]

absolute fucking legend 26/26 hard S

btw how the fuck VoTD

[floral peak]

Funny enough, 2-3 tries

[plain raptor]

a whole bunch of M320 and M32?

[solemn patio]

That stupid hospital bridge area pisses me off

[floral peak]

m32, shield, wedges, tasers

[charred copper]

i tried to S it on normal, almost got it 1st try died on the last 10 NPCs, and then its just all gone to shit in the 10 runs after

[toxic harness]

Took me 8 tries cuz I was tryin to adapt with the launcher

[floral peak]

i see

[plain raptor]

I still don't understand how they sometimes see you before you cross the glass bridge

[buoyant pecan]

I think I found the song that inspired the Valley of the Dolls theme music

[floral peak]

but what more important is 3 Letter Triad

Lets be honest

FUCK 3 LETTER TRIAD
ALL MY HOMIES HATE 3 LETTER TRIAD

[solemn patio]

And how they know exactly where to shoot LIKE FUCKING MINECRAFT SKELETONS

[toxic harness]

On Commander mode, I only use lethals. But when I first grind the Hard S, I intially use the beanbag until I later change to the launcher and rest is history

[floral peak]

nice

[charred copper]

PSA for the new ppl:

You can get coffee and drinks from the vending machine in briefing room.
IF YOU HAVENT TRIED IT YOU'RE MISSING OUT

[plain raptor]

I just did it for the achievement

[buoyant pecan]

I posted in the media channel

[charred copper]

wait theres an achievement?

[crude prism]

I make Judge drink hot water before every mission

[plain raptor]

Yeah, drink 5 coffees I think

[charred copper]

Good ol' H2O

[floral peak]

i make him drink A.V. blood

[charred copper]

oh yeah i think i got that one a while ago

[plain raptor]

hot DOG FLAVORED water?

[pine canyon]

Turn in your badge. Now.

[charred copper]

Favourite Amos Voll torture methods?

[solemn patio]

I make him drink green tea

[pine canyon]

Good man

[floral peak]

Throwing him out of top floor

[solemn patio]

I just beat him up and throw him down the stairs

[crude prism]

dinner with no youtube

[pine canyon]

Mods ban this man

[charred copper]

mods tie this man up by the balls and hang him

[pine canyon]

He took it too far

[digital oriole]

Anyone else had this exact issue? https://discord.com/channels/310075021882294272/1408085254845235241

[plain raptor]

No, but on Series X there's a lot of tearing, not during the levels though

[floral peak]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/921528178789474314/1290632376753586279/caption.gif
When you talking with your fellow officers but TOC starts yapping:

[digital oriole]

Yeah the levels are fine it’s just the HQ

It’s weird. Maybe not enough optimisation

[solemn patio]

I hate how few guys I get sent in with

There needs to be an option to bring like 10 ai swat

[floral peak]

Whos down for Amos Voll torture session

[spiral tundra]

Would make the game way easier

[toxic harness]

ME ME ME

[thorny yacht]

i just beat rust belt and sins of the father genuinely scares me

[wicked charm]

Hey so how does the “Cover” command work?

[digital oriole]

It’s supposed to be hard mate

[floral peak]

Add me and we do it

[wraith gale]

booooooo

[toxic harness]

Im in college

[plain raptor]

They hold position and engage targets that get within a preset range

[floral peak]

Did school already start in USA? damn

[wraith gale]

imagine going to college

[toxic harness]

Yeah. Already in 2nd week

[solemn patio]

The Suspect AI is the worst part of this game

[wicked charm]

What is the preset range?

[old pivot]

I don’t like the hand as characters (how did they get here, why do they have LMGs), but even accepting their presence I feel like they could have done more with making them like, creepily casual and serene

[plain raptor]

The one that gets them killed 7/10 times

[toxic harness]

They def bring their own weapons so it explains their arsenal

[digital oriole]

Why’s that

[spiral tundra]

How hard would yall say stolen valor is

[toxic harness]

It's not that hard

[solemn patio]

They spot you from a mile away and immediately come out of every crack and crevice

[spiral tundra]

Worst part is the knife dudes?

[plain raptor]

Not that hard, you only have to buy an old BDU and pretend you serv- oh, you mean the level

[floral peak]

nah, i would say house structure

[toxic harness]

Yes. And door traps if you suck at the game

[old pivot]

Across the border. How. How did they ALL get in. I take 30 minutes to get through the airport, how tf they getting in

[solemn patio]

The stupid fuckass hospital bridge IM GONNA FUXKING JUMP OFF THIS DAMN BRIDGE

[wraith gale]

clear the perimeter first

[hearty umbra]

how does a shield not protect against knives

[wraith gale]

because its bulletproof not knife proof

[digital oriole]

Well yeah no shit that’s what happens irl

[hearty umbra]

makes sense

[spiral tundra]

I take my time so traps aren’t an issue

[floral peak]

👆

[plain raptor]

Sadly, their hands sometimes clip through

[old pivot]

Genuinely headcanon they’re being armed by the USIA so they can justify a further invasion of Yemen. Bush did 9/11 ultimate edition

[solemn patio]

What happens irl is more people than 5 fucking idiots are sent to the scene.

[hearty umbra]

i'd expect a bullet proof shield that can stop a mg43 to be strong enough to protect against knife attacks but okay dokay

[toxic harness]

1. They're flew from Yemen and got their weapons through the border
2. They shot the club cuz they want to show their anger to us Americans cuz we sent a missile to one of their villages that are innocent (you can read them in the tablet and mission description)

[floral peak]

D Platoon is just built different

[spiral tundra]

Most annoying thing is when suspects or civs won’t surrender then move out of sight

[wicked charm]

So instead of stacking blue guys on the stairs of Twisted Nerve. I can have them cover the stairs from the bottom floor.

[plain raptor]

100%

[pine canyon]

Stupid as hell sending LA swat to Yemen lmao

[hearty umbra]

wont surrender and move into the way of the suspect is worse

[toxic harness]

They do bring about 6 or 10 swat men as Entry team

[hearty umbra]

then their back gets lit up and then you get penalized for it

[spiral tundra]

Or run in front of people you’re shooting at

[solemn patio]

Windows are too shiny to see through

[toxic harness]

Bro what?

[hearty umbra]

yeah ai is just dumb like that they should just run from gunfire

[spiral tundra]

Yeah, the game should add an unavoidable crossfire system

[pine canyon]

Oh marone

[solemn patio]

They bring multiple elements composed of more than 5 people 😭😭😭

[hearty umbra]

like it cant be that hard to add

[old pivot]

Ik it’s question 1 I find weird, bc like, we have an excessive amount of border security shit irl, and if the farm level is any indication, irl. I like my theory that spooks armed them so more villages can be bombed

[plain raptor]

Yeah, currently I've found that if you use one of the two teams to cover an approach, have them stacked on a door that leads there. Otherwise, you need to use the Focus command, but it takes a while to set up

[spiral tundra]

Irl swat teams may be excused if it’s decided that the crossfire wasn’t their fault

[solemn patio]

So ur right

[spiral tundra]

Then another 2 teams sat outside incase, or to secure civs

[hearty umbra]

is trailers actually a thing

i saw it on a tiktok

[wicked charm]

So I should stack them on the house stairs

[toxic harness]

They just fly instead of using a route going deep like the immigrants in Rust Belt

[spiral tundra]

Great first thing I hear on stolen valor “suspects have taken civilians hostage”

[solemn patio]

I want an m60 tbh

[wicked charm]

Yeah they come in once all hostiles are eliminated. They pick up the detainees. You rarely see them because the mission usually gets completed.

[old pivot]

But that’s monitored heavily too. Unless these specific flights weren’t…

[toxic harness]

restart

[plain raptor]

yeah, close the door too. However, that's more of a wedge problem, so I've changed my setup to carry around 4 each time for these types of situations. Sometimes they aren't enough though, so while I'm doing something else, I need either Red or Blue to cover an angle.

[toxic harness]

FISA loves crimes that they will let some to do work

[hearty umbra]

do they bag up evidence

[wicked charm]

No

[spiral tundra]

Commander mode

[toxic harness]

They do on their own sometimes

[hearty umbra]

darn they really should add that

[wraith gale]

booooo (be scared)

[toxic harness]

why fucking commander mode for DLC missions?

[spiral tundra]

Idk

[plain raptor]

they just carry people, it's just for immersion

[hearty umbra]

if i get rid of the hostiles why cant i just let the peoples do it for me

[pine canyon]

Bots? The bots do collect evidence

[hearty umbra]

isnt that my job to kill the bad guy arrest suspects nothing about random bystandars

[wicked charm]

They focus on picking up the detainees. “Atlas” is one of their Ai names he comes in and picks up detainees and brings them out to the trailer.

[spiral tundra]

Dude my whole team just got shot from windows and stairwell

[wraith gale]

since when did void care about immersion? they censored the game and removed the immersion! 🎣

[hearty umbra]

if ai swat had the same aim of the crack heads in the tunnels I wouldnt have to worry about them dying all the time

[plain raptor]

it's not that big of a deal dude, unless you enjoy watching the titties of traficked women

[pine canyon]

THEY COVERED MY TITTIESSSSS NOOOOO

[hearty umbra]

im just mad i cant blow up dead bodies anymore

[wraith gale]

🎣

[plain raptor]

DAMN IT, I GOT CAUGHT

[wraith gale]

TONY SOPRANO KNOWS

[pine canyon]

Oh marone

Fuckin comedian over here huh

[plain raptor]

🇭 🅰️ 🇸 🇭

[wraith gale]

🇭🇦 🇸 🇭 🟫

[thorny yacht]

they censored gerard scott balls

[pine canyon]

NOOOOOOOO THOSE FUCKS

[plain raptor]

🏀

[toxic harness]

Imagine micheal was getting hashbrown cats instead of children

[spiral tundra]

NO No
Bro some dude ran into a trap and blew my whole team up

[pine canyon]

I never had that happen with enemy ai

[spiral tundra]

I just unlocked All their traits bro

[pine canyon]

Close application

[plain raptor]

That's nothing, I once ordered them to breach a door and they all died instantly because I forgot it was trapped

[spiral tundra]

I was disarming, I Shot the dude through the door cuz he was aiming, and turns he he was still alive, charged while I’m disarming and blew us up

[plain raptor]

I had checked it, I just had paused the game to do something, came back, forgot about the wire, kaboom

[digital oriole]

Get good

There’s people who do the missions on this game solo bro

[plain raptor]

Those people are just built differently

[solemn patio]

I got this game not even like 2 months ago get off my case

[spiral tundra]

Just cuz someone can’t master the game in a month doesn’t mean they’re bad

[digital oriole]

Bought it 4 days ago

[spiral tundra]

And what have you done

[thorny yacht]

I DID SINS OF THE FATHER YAY

[digital oriole]

Wdym

[spiral tundra]

You done all missions solo?

That’s what you’re saying he’s bad for not doing, so by your logic you’re bad if you haven’t

[digital oriole]

Yes but with ai obviously. This is a redundant point. They’re complaining about the ai rushing him when all he needs to do is just shoot them and be smart

[solemn patio]

He never stated I was bad, he just told me “get good”

[digital oriole]

Not all now no

[spiral tundra]

So it’s not solo

[solemn patio]

Theres zero cover on the bridge 😭

[digital oriole]

Can’t you bring shield?

[rustic jackal]

anyone who uses the SWAT AI in the current state and doesn’t go solo is not good fr

[spiral tundra]

Zero accuracy

[solemn patio]

I dont run shield man

[digital oriole]

I suppose

[rustic jackal]

they shoot from the 2 windows to the left unless you get unlucky and they spawn on it

suppress and move don’t let the bullets scare you (I’m aware there is no suppression for enemies)

[plain raptor]

If they've spawned in the room right after the double doors on the left, they see you 100% on Standard, you can't even avoid that by hugging the right side of the bridge

[solemn patio]

I panicked as seen in my clip and wasted ammo

[rustic jackal]

they’re not in the aggro cone, until you get a few meters down

[plain raptor]

I've never avoided them spotting me, unless they're far into the room and not looking. If they are looking, they spot you every goddamn time

[solemn patio]

The bridge should have more cover because it basically leaves you ass naked in that regard

[rustic jackal]

fair enough I never have trouble getting past the bridge while playing on hard but the AI is weird though so I’m not surprised

[plain raptor]

Now that Mahjong mentioned aggro, how many civies in the game are capable of killing you, aside Voll's wife?

[rustic jackal]

I’m not aware of any others she’s the only who’s even remotely gotten close to killing me, I usually make them eat the floor

and before I get judged there’s not much left to do in the game after getting it all 😭

[plain raptor]

I've written the solution for the achievement on a website dedicated to achievements and would like to know for alternatives

[solemn patio]

Should I run shield next time

[rustic jackal]

I say just write her down and not look for any others she’s fairly close to your spawn point and will be there 9/10

[plain raptor]

Yeah, I've done that essentially because she's easy and quick to find, thanks

[rustic jackal]

no just run past the LOS of the windows and wait for them to push you or run, your life isn’t worth the bullets

[plain raptor]

Yeah, go to low ready so you're a bit faster and then hold the angle at the end of the bridge, before the double doors even

[rustic jackal]

Or alternatively change your approach and spawn at the main entrance, makes the bridge a cake walk

[solemn patio]

Atp ima run SCAR H

[plain raptor]

it does put them down quickly

[solemn patio]

I still use the guns I find cool looking

[solemn patio]

What optic do I use

[rustic jackal]

just run past the windows and get to the double doors and you’ll be fine don’t even bother contesting the windows and with the way the AI works they’ll be less likely to kill you close range with their accuracy buffs at longer ranges

[plain raptor]

Certainly nothing with magnification atp

[solemn patio]

Every magnified optic in this sucks

[rustic jackal]

agreed

[plain raptor]

the Eotech or the Comp4 are my go-to's, but I guess the meta's different

[spiral tundra]

Eotech or SRS for me

[solemn patio]

I wish they added a flip to side magnifier for the eotech

[rustic jackal]

I remember my first like 4 days I couldn’t see shit with any sight so I was a laser man

[plain raptor]

I would also welcome canted sights, but I'm assuming that's far off in regards to how the game's being developed

[spiral tundra]

Or offset sight

[solemn patio]

Maybe they replace laser sights

[plain raptor]

tbh I don't think they should. Canted aiming is important, especially if they introduce a distorted view when trying to ADS with the NVGs dropped

[bold sky]

why does this game give us spc and not vector btw when spc is clearly trying its best to be vector at home

[spiral tundra]

I’d like to see NVG camo, black on desert camo doesn’t look all too cool

[exotic slate]

Will the Paramedic trait save my iron man run?

[plain raptor]

That wouldn't be realistic

[plain raptor]

That's actually a question I have as well

[spiral tundra]

Ik, but customisation isn’t all too realistic already

[plain raptor]

give me an example

[spiral tundra]

Well forest camo in a building

Desert multicam

[plain raptor]

lol, you're right

[exotic slate]

Im wearing short shorts and a Hawaiian shirt

[plain raptor]

that being said, certain units have only one color of BDU and serve all the warrants with them, regardless of the situation

[buoyant pecan]

There are tan NVGs but you can’t get them anymore cause they were part of the supporter edition

[digital oriole]

“The bad guys are selling guns to pay for bills and debt”

“Shiiiiiiiit”

[plain raptor]

That could be attributed to an urgent call, maybe the officer was on leave

[buoyant pecan]

I think fashion in the game shouldn’t turn into Fortnite or 2020s COD, but it also shouldn’t be limited to “only the most realistic LAPD larper outfits ONLY”

[exotic slate]

NO
I want them to know im doing it as a flex

[plain raptor]

100%

[buoyant pecan]

I mean you can also wear FISA HRT outfits even though you’re not FISA

[plain raptor]

wdym an iced out Rolex isn't goverment approved gear?

[buoyant pecan]

And Bordertac outfits too

[exotic slate]

"TOC you dont understand im drippy as fuck"

[digital oriole]

Since when could I not spend 50k and kill gangsters dripped out

[buoyant pecan]

My most wanted clothing for RON is uhhh:

• city camo. Bluish grey and white type shit. BDU, tiger stripe, digital, etc.
• more camo patterns in general
• collared vests
• business suits
• ballistic masks
• balaclavas in single player mode
• hoodies. More “I’m on my day off and just got called in” casual stuff in general

[digital oriole]

Handing in my resignation form

[buoyant pecan]

Also, 70s and 80s swat gear

[exotic slate]

some google serches said it does

[digital oriole]

Why not add Medieval shit

[buoyant pecan]

Might be a little too crazy

[jagged carbon]

Business suits?

[digital oriole]

Shit add a British queens guard uniform

[buoyant pecan]

Secret service CIA looking shit

[digital oriole]

Payday 2 collab when?

[exotic slate]

If i can solo Vally of Dolls with a bow il do it

[buoyant pecan]

Ngl tho
A suspect who collects a bunch of historical shit and attacks you in knight armor would be crazy

[digital oriole]

😂

Might as well add crossbows atp

[buoyant pecan]

Imagine a mf decked out like he bout to slay a dragon charging you with an LMG

[exotic slate]

my 45ac easly pieces his replica plate and drops him

[buoyant pecan]

M1014 slug turn that armor to scrap metal

Actually maybe not

I fuckin love that M1014 tho

[lapis current]

is it just me or is greased palms on hard mode practically impossible

[desert island]

practically yeah

but using impractical strats its doable

[lapis current]

strats like what?

[desert island]

doin a full circle around the map first to clear the outside

then picking off warehouse dudes from the outside openings

from truckdepot, backdoor, main officeentrance, topfloor window

then just send in AI teammates with mkv shield

[lapis current]

ill try it and see if it works

[marsh lark]

Doing neon tomb with 50% more suspects and this mf explodes through a wall

Like, I get exploding in my LOS because I cannot kill him in time, but come on man. Exploding and killing me when I am in a different room?

[solemn patio]

Imagine a level where you raid a weebs house and he come at you with a full on katana (like 23 megabytes a second but different

Maybe he was having a mental health crisis and ended up threatening his neighbors and barricaded himself in his house

[marsh lark]

Yeah but if someone threatens with ending their life, that is usually call for normal police. Even if they barricade themselves. And I doubt it would really suffice a whole map for one suspect

[last moss]

hi im poor can someone buy me ready or not 🙏

[jagged carbon]

No

[lapis current]

i hate how in hard mode my officers have the aim and brain of a 6 year old child but the suspects are like veterents that can take 3 JHP's to the chest and shoot completely straight

[bronze grove]

Ngl hard mode feels like bs most of the time, just stick to standard

[lapis current]

im trying to get the achievement for all the missions completed on hard mode

and ive been stuck on greased palms for like 3 days

[bronze grove]

Fair

[bronze grove]

Use sa-58 for easy win

[solemn patio]

Ga51

I love less lethal off topic

I like the chance to kill someone

[spark pecan]

I can't believe we are still waiting on the next patch 😭 game has been out for over a month and has/graphics/AI still fucked.

Moving on to other games now until void sort it. Cronos - a horror game by the makers of the silent hill 2 remake looks insane and is coming out start of sept

[buoyant pecan]

I want more missions

[worn dirge]

Does getting the most kills get S rank??

[spiral tundra]

The missions take a while to make with the level of detail

[amber dock]

No it’s the opposite

[lean edge]

This is the best choice right now,
playing cp2077 and fh 5 rn until this game gets fixed

[spark pecan]

I know. It sucks of say it as I love the game play of Ron, but I can't continue with it in the current state

[solemn patio]

Bro im like joe from family guy MY LEGS

STOP SHOOTING MY LEGS DAMNIT SUSPECTS

[lean edge]

exactly, I really love this game too, but the amount of frustration and annoyance it causes isn’t small

[spark pecan]

I have a sad feeling we will be waiting months for it to be fixed. nd by then, lots may have moved on. Steam player counts have absolutely tanked

[solemn patio]

[lean edge]

I don’t know why they’re acting so slowly. games that usually have this level of issues, and where the community keeps reporting problems, almost always get weekly updates

[spark pecan]

Exactly. It really screams "we don't give a shit". Like not a single dev etc have even given us updates in here. It's like they know but just don't care

[charred birch]

Knowing VOID it’ll probably be a BIG patch fixing just about everything (hopefully) but that could come in weeks or even months

When the game doesn’t shit the bed and works normally it’s AMAZING but you can have an awful day full of bugs to the point the game is unplayable

[solemn patio]

They are taking their sweet time?

[wraith gale]

we definitely didnt get 2 patches that fixed 190+ bugs.

also kaminsky has talked about updates a few times recently

[charred birch]

Yeah cause I reckon they’re hiring people who know more about how consoles work now

Because no offense but I’m afraid VOID had no clue how the fuck you’re supposed to port a PC game to console ; which is fair since it’s not what they’re used to working with and the console update was a first for them

[buoyant pecan]

Thinkin bout Andrew Taronne

[charred birch]

So now we’re just gonna have to wait sadly while they hire more qualified people and gather all the issues to fix

[wraith gale]

im pretty sure Kam said something about them not knowing SHIT about console lol

[charred birch]

Yeah that’s what I thought 😭

But at this point all they can do is improve on it, the most recent LSS patch fixed a lot of stuff which I’m glad about

[buoyant pecan]

Most wanted weapons?

[wraith gale]

they honestly dont even know what broke during the update. the console game was perfectly fine in EA testing.

[buoyant pecan]

I want a M2011 John Wick type handgun and a classic M16

[charred birch]

I remember Reddit losing their shit when they basically said they didn’t know where they fucked up 💔

[wraith gale]

aww man frank caprio died

[charred birch]

But then again Reddit users will crashout over the smallest inconveniences like a badly rendered toilet

[wraith gale]

reddit will be reddit

[solemn patio]

MP7 is lowk goated

[charred birch]

It’s ridiculously good indeed

[solemn patio]

Or a speck of dirt on your officer’s buttock

[charred birch]

I do wish SMGs had reliable use in more situations though ; by that I mean suspects that don’t need to have a whole P90 mag dumped into their chest to begin feeling it

Well the P90 is somewhat hard hitting, but MP5s for example you can need a ridiculous amount of shots to kill/incap even with JHP on unarmored suspects

[solemn patio]

Im using mp5 in singleshot as a less lethal

[viscid nexus]

for real...idk wth is going on with the online coop lobbys...i basically can only find games that are in europe or asia it seems and my ping is abs blasted - im playing on PC also idk if that matters...whenever i try to host a game, literally can take 30 minutes b4 a single player joins...and im using super standard mods like gunfighter and no crack ai, nothing fancy....plus i know for a fact many ppl have been asking for a dedicated lobby style format for online co-op like you have with arma 3 ground branch etc etc. - even go all the way back to Swat 3 and Swat 4 - those old ass games had that and were a way that tactical gaming groups would build consistent lobbys, where ppl would understamd - hey if you play here, you better use general cqb tactics playing in a 4/5/6 man element and staying tf in formation, listen to the element leader or get booted/banned. the devs at VOID have zero concept of what Online Tactical Co-Op is truly about.

[buoyant pecan]

Someone in another server is calling this game fascist copaganda and stuff smh

The only thing that rubs me the wrong way about this game is those old posters that said stuff like “jogger” I still find that extremely questionable

[marsh lark]

I mean, people do that through discord. I understand your point and we all know what this game stands on, but if you want players to play tactically or any way you want, just put out a message in #🔎looking-for-players

[solemn patio]

I just got backstabbed by a suspect in twisted nerve

[wicked charm]

There is no quick command for wedging a door?

[marsh lark]

There is a command for weding a door.

[wicked charm]

I know. But no option for it to be a quick command

[solemn patio]

I might lowk quit ready or not till they fix the stuff

[buoyant pecan]

I’m just shocked there are still people who see RoN as some alt-right death squad simulator

[marsh lark]

Yeah it's not a quick command because I don't think it's that utilized to be a quick command.

[marsh lark]

People can play the game how they want though, some larp as a swat officer, some as military.

[wicked charm]

I mean you can have “Cover” and “Move and Clear” as the default R1 command when looking at a door. Why not have an option to have a quick command for wedge. I use it all the time. I understand many may not feel the same way.

[buoyant pecan]

Like have they even played the game
Someone in another server said “every enemy in the game is either an illegal immigrant or vaguely left-leaning pervert” like what?? Illegal immigrants are portrayed sympathetically and there is no political leanings given to any of the pervs

Hell, George Brixley is outright openly misogynistic
People don’t know what they’re talking about

[solemn patio]

What the HELL

[marsh lark]

It could be a quick command for when you aim at the bottom corner of a door under the handle, but I think that would be painful as hell for console players

[ancient pivot]

This game is dead

[solemn patio]

No, its dying

[wicked charm]

If you have the wedge on your person you can press X at the corner of the door. But the AI doesn’t have the ability to adjust the door default command to be “wedge” which I think should be an option. Because when you want to wedge a door it should be something you want to do asap.

[marsh lark]

Yeah, I just think that this was not really thought of. The game is made for PCs primarily where you just press your middle mouse button and a number for the AI to do the action, considering it was rather smooth they didn't think to adjust it for consoles though

[buoyant pecan]

Yea I feel like like people read a few articles about the game and thought “that sounds so horrible and insensitive” and never looked further into it

[solemn patio]

atp ima play warthunder or helldivers 2

till this all fixes itself

[marsh lark]

People make outright bad jokes all the time, sometimes they mean it seriously, it happens.

[buoyant pecan]

Like I’m as leftist as it gets and I don’t see this game as being “rightwing police Deathsquad anti-immigrant propaganda” or whatever

[stoic thistle]

How do you even reach that conclusion?

[marsh lark]

It is not. Some people are going to think otherwise, or make jokes like that that appear as if they actually meant it. Ignore those people.

[buoyant pecan]

They probably read that Kotaku article
Or heard the word “school shooting level” and assumed that automatically is insensitive
Or they saw someone post “NEON TOMB WAS RELEASED ON THE PULSE SHOOTING ANNIVERSARY, GUYS!”

[desert island]

true conservatives hate cops

true liberals hate cops

but u can play as an anarcho capitalist mcdonalds death squad commander

[toxic harness]

I'm certain that they will cover another controversial shooting incident some day

[rich cobalt]

"left leaning pervert"
i like it when that side of politics say "ohh left this left that, they should stop bringing politics in my games"

when.. when they're bringing real world politics into something fictional.

[muted rivet]

will RoN ever get a multi rail system..?

[rich cobalt]

fuck, politics has been in almost every game but fictionalized in a way where it shouldn't matter.
look at metal gear for example. that's a great game and it's political.

[toxic harness]

Even Red Dead is political with the Industrial Revolution

[rich cobalt]

exactly!

i also liked it when uncle was complaining about the US fighting the philippines.

[buoyant pecan]

I dunno how they could see the streamer having “men are the master race” in his bio and think “this game wants you to think left leaning people are evil” lol

[rich cobalt]

to which, we fought for them against spain before..
owning them.

[rich cobalt]

in secret, those people who call the game "left leaning" have michael's sentiment.
that all men are the master race.

[desert island]

the politics of metal gear r like

[buoyant pecan]

Like the only “leftist” villains in the game are the UPF

[toxic harness]

If there is no American and Spanish involved in the Philippines, we would not have Jollibee's

[buoyant pecan]

Oh, this guy was actually accusing the game of being far-right and portraying leftwing people and immigrants as evil

[toxic harness]

Bro what

[desert island]

military industrial complex bad

[rich cobalt]

.. we really need to put extremists in a sitcom.

call it red vs blue.
.. wait, that's already taken.

[toxic harness]

TEAM FORTRESS 2 RAHHHHH

[rich cobalt]

unless..
we can fund a secret government organization to create mjolnir, and the spartan program.

[valid wadi]

I think you don’t understand the game, me and my friends run full mods and we get through the game quickly, two of those friends aren’t big into tactical shooters or shooters in general but they play really well, I think you need to find yourself a good group of friends or likeminded players in order to actually play RON to the fullest. I do understand your frustration

[rich cobalt]

or that works too
but i don't think the australians will like us for draining their supply.

[toxic harness]

I agree, even the aussies will agree

Australia is just interesting

[jagged quartz]

Why is jogger questionable?

[pine canyon]

The only non political game is mgs

[buoyant pecan]

It’s sometimes used as a covert slur against black people

[toxic harness]

cap

[desert island]

u think kojima knows anything about politics

[pine canyon]

No

It’s Kojima San

Now take your shoes off and prepare for feet scan

[rich cobalt]

metal gear solid 4 is about to hit the mark, so maybe he was onto something.

[valid wadi]

The game is left leaning/anti government in nature. The stuff like the forgotten and the senator is obviously a take on how the right being fine with stripping away benefits to a lot of people (not political but it is a fact).

Not only that but the game also critiques the US for not having safety nets for those struggling both financially and mentally, leading to rampant drug abuse (Twisted Nerve), selling children to bad actors (The Spider), shootings (Elephant), selling and making illegal weapons (Ends of the Earth)

There are messages everywhere in the game which criticizes the US government and those in charge. The FISA interaction on Hide and Seek just shows how deep corruption and incompetence runs in the federal government.

[gaunt gale]

[valid wadi]

Good for you

[valid wadi]

Hi

[rustic jackal]

thank you wolf boy

[gaunt gale]

Looks like I popped in at an interesting time

[valid wadi]

You’re welcome

[crystal vector]

Nah EK is right in that sense. I remember the sas 22nd reg always being a mainstay with their co op training grounds servers on swat 3 swat 4 and Rainbow 6 ravenshield. Using discord for that purpose is non sense the users here shouldnt have to backdoor for that. It's a very simple thing void could do but they're lazy. How do you have cross play enabled and somehow the online player base goes downward lol

[pine canyon]

Everyday butt pregnant with shit won’t stop

[gaunt gale]

What

[pine canyon]

Help

[rustic jackal]

what happened to this place you freaks 😭

[misty edge]

Why would a left leaning anti government game have you play as a police officer where you shoot people

I think it’s just a game bro

My opinion

[pine canyon]

Yeah he’s overthinking it 😂

[crystal vector]

Ur online coop is broke Kam doggy it's gone back to beta

[gaunt gale]

We know, we have a patch dropping very soon that'll help some more.

[rustic jackal]

keep playing with belly buttons and stay watching the chat like me soprano larper

[desert island]

thats like saying metal gear is political cuz armstrong is president

[pine canyon]

What is bro yapping about 😭

[crystal vector]

Thats cool any plans for dedicated lobbys for online coop? Would be way better imo

[valid wadi]

I don’t think I am

[rustic jackal]

bro enough mgs it’s ron discussion please you guys might spoil something for me 😭

[desert island]

spoilers the game is now a pachinko machine

[toxic harness]

For me I see RoN as this:

• You were assigned into LSPD due to your background of military service
• Crime rate has increased dramatically due to the corruption that all you can do is to try reducing the rate of crime
• Each suspects has a different background on why they are doing the crime, and your D-Platoon is canonically pacifist that you try to not kill people
• You'll remember this quote "We are not here to create Widows and Orphans. We Bring End to Chaos" as your main goal on each mission

[gaunt gale]

Because there's value in having a piece of media say one thing but have the player/reader/watcher positioned on the opposite side.

That being said, the game isn't intended to say anything in particular, just present the things that're actually happening in a game-ified manner.

[tribal storm]

does anyone know if for the sleeper agent achievement if it has to be only person killing 15 bots or can a friend help as well and split up?

[desert island]

friend can help split up

[crystal vector]

It's set in a dystopian America I don't think ppl understand that part lol its not based on our current reality at all.

[misty edge]

I see what you mean

[crystal vector]

I mean we aren't far off tho tbh

[misty edge]

I mean some missions take inspiration from real life

[toxic harness]

Anything can be taken from real life and be fictionalized

[rustic jackal]

maybe you aren’t woke like us Roners

[pine canyon]

Metal gear dies

[valid wadi]

Not far off, the night club is directly inspired by Pulse but in a much bigger scale

[marsh lark]

I don't feel the same way, sorry.

[rustic jackal]

John Wick is alive in mgs1

[misty edge]

hard to do it tastefully with some topics

[desert island]

its a political game as much as kirby is political cuz hes killing king dedede or befriending him

[marsh lark]

Things like this happen in US today too

[toxic harness]

Yet the game wanted to show the reality on what SWAT see

[misty edge]

Yes

[desert island]

if the game doesnt take a specific stance on anything then it doesnt matter

[valid wadi]

The game does overdo some things, like most the scenarios in this game only happens once or twice in a swat officer’s career

[crystal vector]

True

[rustic jackal]

further decreasing the shock value and just adding pew pew

[desert island]

politician cuts vet funding
vets try to kill him
u kill the vets
wat does this mean
politicians r making the cops and civs do bad things?

[marsh lark]

The point is that it happens, not really about the quantity

[misty edge]

It’s also a game at the end of the day

[desert island]

maybe the game is anti war cuz war is the reason y vets need health care

[misty edge]

Lmfaoo

[rustic jackal]

you explaining MLO plot right there 😈

[toxic harness]

To be fair, Elephant is so damn easy on non lethal, even on Hard mode

[valid wadi]

Yes it is just a game at the end of the day, but games have meaning, especially RON. I don’t know what you’re trying to get at or if you’re just a a little mosquito brain

[rustic jackal]

oooo I like insults

[misty edge]

?? Just talking no need to insult also it’s not my first language sorry if something was mistaken

[desert island]

what is call of dutys meaning

[tribal storm]

Really? Cause I’m on Xbox and my friend is on pc and I feel like we did it within 15 seconds of each other and we still didn’t get the achievement. I don’t think the achievement is broken is it?

[toxic harness]

It used to share a story of a soldier going through the war in different era. But now it's just... pew pew

[desert island]

wat ive noticed about sleeper agent is u gotta incap them at least before u kill them

even if its a split second

[toxic harness]

You can restrain cancel all of them, round all of them up in one room and then arrest them all at once

[desert island]

just dont kill them in 1 shot

i mean thats just S rank but harder

cuz they can get up and run away

[rustic jackal]

what are you talking about 😭

[desert island]

easier to just take 3 mins to kill as many as u can and restart

[rustic jackal]

I can tell this guy isn’t iced out like me and echo

[desert island]

cod b like we gotta do bad things for the greater good

[valid wadi]

I’m not criticizing your understanding of what im trying to say, im saying that yes it is just a game but games in general do have messages whether you realize it or not, ready or not despite it not having a clear message is political in nature due to the events in the game.

The Left Behind is a group that formed BECAUSE of a senator cutting funding and help for Veterans, this leads to Veterans taking up arms and you have to help arrest them.

Cutting social help can make people do that, it has happened before in real life and isn’t too far off from the real world. While yes it is a game at the end of the day IT IS something many Americans fear day by day.

[desert island]

i see it more as just writing a realistic motivation for enemy flavor

rather than an actual opinion of the video game

[marsh lark]

I mean, when we look at Ides of March, you can sort of feel bad for the vets and understand their actions, however they double down in Sins of the Father and kill innocent people, torture innocent people and wish to livestream a public execution for the world to see. At that point any kind of sympathy falls apart and they turn into monsters for that.

[rustic jackal]

the events you speak of are highlighted in like 2 missions 😭

[toxic harness]

Another example:

• The Hand came to America to attack because of an American missile hitting a local village in Yemen
• Los Locos moved to America to take the advantage with weapons and drug deals as the city crumbles

[tribal storm]

Me and my friend tried that whenever we restrain cancel them they get bugged and don’t move at all anymore or even listen to orders to move. There was even this one time where I restrained 13 guys and shot 2 in the head with a bean bag shotgun cause they got stuck in a hole in a wall and it didn’t count but that’s probably cause they died.

[desert island]

born too early to bomb yemen
born too late to bomb yemen
born just in time to bomb yemen

[valid wadi]

That’s just one of many such cases in game, is it wrong to highlight one that is more relevant to a conversation or should I go one by one to each group highlighting why they do that they do and how there’s a real life correlation?

[pine canyon]

I’ll drink to that

[toxic harness]

It worked for me when me and 4 other men restrain cancel everyone, and then restrain them all as we got Standard S

[desert island]

i just ran around with the mkv and tapped 17 ppl

for sleeper agent

[toxic harness]

For me it was pretty simple for Sleeper Agent. It's way easier than Hard S 3LT

[marsh lark]

Perhaps there is a political message, but as I've said it also kind of highlights that we judge too early, or judge too late. What vets did in Ides of March is understandable while what they did in Sins of the Father is outright horrible.

[misty edge]

Yes bro

[rustic jackal]

wolf boy getting angy yap all you want if you wish, I just stated a fact having to do with your little political things

[clever escarp]

Ive got a question id love to be answered
Asking as someone who bought the console version a few days ago, and have already sunk a day and a half into it (i love it)
Whats the difference between ai now and all the other ai iterations? why do people say its broken now when i heard it was worse in early access?
im enjoying this game thoroughly, and im afraid the giant mixed review rating on steam is hurting it when its still pretty great.

[desert island]

yeah it was worse in ea

its still bad now

[valid wadi]

Okay buddy sure

[desert island]

they culd make the ai total dogshit and ppl wuld still play

[marsh lark]

This AI comes nowhere close to RoN 1.0, that AI was john wick on crack, it spotted you through a crack between the door frame and the door, and lasered you through 2 walls. You had to abuse the free lean just to survive

[rustic jackal]

It is and people are playing rn

[valid wadi]

The mixed review was due to censorship so people review bombed the game negatively

[desert island]

console players cant review on pc

[rustic jackal]

PC players are the ones upset about the changes the most man 😭

[valid wadi]

He checked steam reviews

[marsh lark]

People shat on Void for not taking a risk that could bury the game for consoles, at the end of the day respect the decision made by the people who actually work on this game.

[clever escarp]

i understand a bit of the discorse behind censorship, but from what ive played everything except for that mission of the crackhouse has been incredibly impactful (i just finished neon tomb)

[iron canopy]

I'm still dealing with that now wdym

[marsh lark]

It is not as bad as it was.

[clever escarp]

idk man i enjoy the ai. hard mode should have them be john wick, they work incredibly well now and its still quite fun.

[marsh lark]

I never complained about it because the group I played with was tactical and we managed to always outsmart and outperform the AI, but for normal lobbies where it is like a sheep herd you would die easily

[desert island]

on standard mode u can easily kill all 20 enemies without taking damage

[clever escarp]

ive been playing standard and abusing the hell out of items so i wouldnt notice, but if you act stupid and out in the open, you will get shot and killed

[clever escarp]

thats just completelt untrue man.

[desert island]

but the way enemy detects u is still pretty stupid

[rustic jackal]

my only problem is that the accuracy somehow improves over distances with the AI and you get spotted from across the map

[marsh lark]

The details that were removed were relatively subtle, if Void hadn't actually made a full on announcement as to what got changed, I seriously doubt people would notice that much.

[clever escarp]

greased palms really messed me up even on mouse and keyboard. they wittle you down hard

[gaunt gale]

It really isn't

[desert island]

yeah u can easily beat port hokan and only get shot at like 3 times

[gaunt gale]

It's difficult and you need to take it very slow, but it's doable

[clever escarp]

i had that exact same sentiment. the game still gets to me the same way it would if it was developed by Irrational Games

[desert island]

u just all 3 times they shoot at u

to not hit u in legs or arms

[rustic jackal]

what?

[valid wadi]

This is my main thing

No need for an announcement, less backlash

[clever escarp]

i never said it was impossible, but that guy was acting like it was nothing. greased palms was the first one with like 20 dudes and it really messed me up

[cedar mulch]

I believe Los Locos is an American gang. It is funded by the Sonoran cartel.

[marsh lark]

I think post mortum dismemberment is not needed anyways, and there are some graphical downgrades that are apparently a bug, and one of the things at the very least was already fixed in the latest patch

[desert island]

greased palms is like 16 dudes

doing it without taking damage is easy but tedious and boring

[clever escarp]

agreed, and im not even sure what the graphical downgrades are. but like, the game still looks great. it doesnt have to be incredibly high fidelity to still have the same great vibe

[rustic jackal]

oh no it’s the enclave

[marsh lark]

They want to be transparent with their community, which in my eyes is a very respectable thing. People in my opinion blew it out of proportion and are still complaining about things that are also a bug, I always said that we need to relax.

[fading anvil]

The game is still decently full with the creepy indications. Like valley of the dolls.

[desert island]

hes not a powder ganger

[marsh lark]

If you look closely at the details, it is creepy, disgusting and outright horrible.

[fading anvil]

no bullets we’re saved on the bodyguards

[clever escarp]

i mean if you read the briefing of valley of the dolls it still indicates child porn clearly

[clever escarp]

nah they deserve their day in court. its more fun shooting painballs full of pepper in their face
horray for videogame roe!!

[fading anvil]

those who stand for them can die with them. 😎

[rustic jackal]

Is your pfp 7dtd?

[gaunt gale]

Everyone deserves their minute in court, either everyone gets it or no-one gets it

[clever escarp]

i dont stand for them. i want them to sit in the chair. bigger statement

[fading anvil]

Outlast Trials, one of the new outfits

[rustic jackal]

ah okok

[fading anvil]

no I meant the bodyguards

[desert island]

they get 5 seconds in the Judge court

[clever escarp]

OH WE TALKING OUTLAST TRIALS NOW??

[clever escarp]

understood

[fading anvil]

outlast these trials🗿

[desert island]

if they dont surrender they get the 50ae

[fading anvil]

Give this man a badge now 🇺🇸

[rustic jackal]

one yell for them to get on the ground before my bullets help them

[clever escarp]

Toc this is entry team we've got a pair of conjoined fucking twins with a buzzsaw

[marsh lark]

Looking at Valley of the dolls now on console, practically the only thing that was slightly changed were the incriptions on the wall to be less messed up and the face there, all in all it is still creepy and clearly implies the horrible things if you read them one by one

[desert island]

failure to comply with a Judge

[fading anvil]

Murk tactical mod would go hard af ngl

[desert island]

the sentence is death

[clever escarp]

what changed in valley of the dolls exactly? were those pictures of dolls real kids??

[rustic jackal]

don’t forget the shelves too making you have to do a little meth

[marsh lark]

Yes a real kid, as well as the inscriptions saying really messed up stuff, but not all of it was changed on the wall, so you still see the fucked up details

[fading anvil]

When I played it with my boyfriend the first time we saw the ‘18th birthday party’ and immediately knew something was up

[marsh lark]

What, the 18+ things on the shelves?

[clever escarp]

brug

[rustic jackal]

yes they display dates instead of their ages at the time, a small change but a change

[valid wadi]

The daughter and her friends/attendings are neutral/innocent, only the security guards and Voll himself are actually in on it or know of it

[marsh lark]

Cannot say that bad word otherwise bot eats you alive

[stoic thistle]

Does that include the civies?

[marsh lark]

The wife as well sort of speak

[fading anvil]

Entry team to TOC. Waterboarding the suspect with the punch bowl. 😎

[clever escarp]

i said what the charge for touching someone in their no no place illegally is
i was referencing that really weird statue name in the stairwell of valley of the dolls

[valid wadi]

She’s a victim of grooming by Voll, not saying she’s inherently innocent but she did know of what was happening

[marsh lark]

She is a victim, that is said on the statue, yes. As well as sort of the video in the living room at the top, however she knew what is up and made kinda nothing to stop it, even in game she is considered a suspect per the suspects page in the briefing

[clever escarp]

i thought it was implied the daughter was being yknow or something by the father with that one painting of her sitting on that really weird statue

[marsh lark]

I know

[clever escarp]

evil evil evil evil evil

[gaunt gale]

Everyone

[fading anvil]

maybe one day we can get a telescopic baton so we can collectively beat suspects as a team. 🫡

[rustic jackal]

Implied she was next on his diddle list

[clever escarp]

you liked it?

[valid wadi]

The daughter was never SA’d not to what the game provided with intel, but she was definitely being preyed upon by her dad with the writings in the basement being about her specifically.

[stoic thistle]

Modern crimes require prehistoric solutions.

[rustic jackal]

typo I’m a monkey who can’t use fingers 😭

[full verge]

I still can't believe they PG'd the game for consoles. So annoying.

[gaunt gale]

We ... really didn't though

[fading anvil]

‘Stop hitting yourself, stop hitting yourself’

[clever escarp]

they really didnt though

[trim dirge]

where is my free-look and replay mode on console

[marsh lark]

She was his next target, that is implied yes

[fading anvil]

go hard with a cloaker soundboard

[rustic jackal]

replay mode is a must!!

[full verge]

Lies and deceit!

[marsh lark]

"You call this resisting arrest! We call this a dificulty tweak"

[valid wadi]

Yes that is implied

[clever escarp]

first time player here, still felt everything really well

[desert island]

y wuld she be his next target

if shes 18 and not a child

[full verge]

Baton may not be standard for swat but all cops carry them

[rustic jackal]

that’s crazy I got nerfed

[clever escarp]

ell oh ell

[fading anvil]

‘I’m gonna beat the cellulites outta you’

[marsh lark]

It is implied in game, that's the point. Being 18+ does not change what happens, that person being underage just makes it worse

[digital oriole]

Shot a civ in the head by accident trying to shoot a surrendering enemy but he pointed his gun toward me so I tried to shoot his head and the other guy had a massive hit box 😭

[marsh lark]

Cloaker was the funniest enemy in Payday2 man top tier voicelines

[digital oriole]

Ended up being merced by my own swat team

[clever escarp]

stay winning

[fading anvil]

He almost felt like a Borderlands enemy, breaking the 4th wall.

[rustic jackal]

they have better aim on you then suspects

[digital oriole]

They was all right next to me

[toxic harness]

And the current state of Los Sueños being ruined with high rate of crime, it would be a great time to get into drug deals and weapon deals

[digital oriole]

Detroit type shit

[clever escarp]

even better than the Secret Service? i thought they just copied that ai over

[digital oriole]

Real

[rustic jackal]

oh dude please play hard mode and we’ll talk about this 😭

I need someone to yap to about it

[clever escarp]

i know i wanted to give standard a shot first since i dont play many tactical shooters. usually ill play hard mode on a game first but i kinda wanted to have fun :3 also better to learn the levels on my eventual hard runs/s runs/watch runs

trust me ill be giving it a shot soon i enjoy playing games on the harder modes

Halo on Legendary and TLOU on Grounded is a must my friends

finish the sentence dang guys

[rustic jackal]

sorry man 🕺

[rustic jackal]

I tried TLOU on grounded

but nah I like shooting people so I play the rouge like shit now

[clever escarp]

give it another shot when i give hard ron a shot, easy pete
its the only way to play, you actually have to take cover and outsmart the enemy without wasting all your ammo.

[rustic jackal]

yeah but I like my bricks and how else will I merk a clicker

[clever escarp]

brick still works fine in the first game, second game you have to worry about it regardless of grounded

[rustic jackal]

I mean finding them

[clever escarp]

ahh i see
they still spawn pretty frequently i think at least

idk i do have like too many hours them both

[rustic jackal]

I’ve played both and I’m sadly one of those people that are fine with TLOUp2 and its story 😈

[clever escarp]

nobonobonono dont fucking apologize ever
part 2 is peak

i mean its got its issues but i loved it

[rustic jackal]

Justice for my boy Joel though but I agree as well

[clever escarp]

and the ending works, i didnt wanna kill abby at the end

joel fucked up, im one of the few who believes he really got what he deserved

[rustic jackal]

woah woah woah

[clever escarp]

now that ive grown up a little

[clever escarp]

hey man i loved abby and lev's story

alright this is ron discussion we shall drop before a moderator gets mad idk how strict the server is

[rustic jackal]

I agree with this as well it was peak

[rustic jackal]

go to general and we take it over

[clever escarp]

nag im gonna hit my vape and watch spongebob

[pallid root]

Watching SpongeBob so real

[clever escarp]

👏🫡

[desert island]

redditbob

[tribal storm]

does anyone have a good load out for sleeper agent?

[rich cobalt]

apologies for the lengthy reply.

but i'd say the game isn’t pushing a left-wing agenda— but rather it’s pointing at systemic flaws that exist regardless of party. themes like poverty, drug abuse, corruption, and abuse of power aren’t exclusive to one side of politics; they’re broader critiques of how institutions fail people. missions like twisted nerve or the spider aren’t “anti-right” so much as they highlight real societal issues that come from neglect, greed, or corruption across the spectrum. ready or not uses these scenarios to build gritty, believable settings, not to endorse one ideology. its focus is on showing the darker consequences of systemic failure in general.

[valid wadi]

I agree, i should’ve dropped the left wing part and said that’s it’s more criticizing government instead of it being inherently against one side

[languid creek]

It’s a scarily accurate recreation of our current country and its issues

We are the most powerful nation in the world. Do you think drugs and crime are here because we can’t fix it? Nah. They’re here because the big guy gets 10% and we allow crime to prosper.

[rich cobalt]

^^^

[languid creek]

Arrest the lil fella selling an ounce to make it look like we’re doing something, then allow the guy with 1,000 kilos to keep doing his thing

[desert island]

mkv, battering ram

full ceramic

m32 flash is good for fast breaching

[languid creek]

Meanwhile in game we arrest the kids making guns to pay for their mom’s cancer treatment while allowing FISA to continue their shenanigans without competition

[rich cobalt]

stingers have a bigger radius than flashes

i'd say incorporate both stingers and flashes if you can

[spiral tundra]

Use stingers on wider rooms or rooms with more targets

[rich cobalt]

if someone's trying to draw you out in a tight space with not a lot of coverage, flash
if there's plenty of space to go about as well as cover- sting 'em.

[rich cobalt]

^^

[desert island]

tactically and braindeadly u can just use 1 flash on every enemy

y even let them see u when u can flash them then do watever u want to them

[languid creek]

Flashbang enthusiast all day all night

[spiral tundra]

Also how you easily cause friendly fire

[spiral tundra]

I was until I found stingers

[desert island]

its just bugged

sometimes u get -0 friendly fire penalty

theres no stinger m32

and the radius has never mattered

even wit flash i get ppl i didnt know were there

[rich cobalt]

the methhead 1 meter away from the blast radius with his AK ready to shoot the LARPer entering the door like a wannabe CAG:

[languid creek]

Yeah the subtitles like to snitch on people who got flashbanged lol

[languid creek]

Me hitting his toe with a flashbang and then hitting him in the face again for good measure

[rich cobalt]

this is why i love stingers for scenarios like these

the balls will find someone even behind cover

[tribal storm]

Is this load out good for lethal?

[rich cobalt]

it also makes a lot more sense outdoors wise
because what good will a flash do you in a flat.. open area
outdoors where the sun is bright enough to do the same thing

[rich cobalt]

the MKV pistol ensures a quick and painless death

any shot from the waist to the face is enough to put a suspect down for good

JHP rounds increases that killbox to the legs, making any part of the body enough to stop a person dead in their tracks

though you will need an extra shot to the chest if they're wearing body armor regardless of JHP or AP

[pine canyon]

Am I the only one who finds the players that are super tactical and serious when playing cringe as fuck?

Like role playing it essentially

[rich cobalt]

i still play like it's rogue six

[pine canyon]

They treat the game like it’s a Ubisoft gameplay trailer lmfao

[rich cobalt]

but as long as they're not picky with who they play with and don't correct people with tactical lingo

[rich cobalt]

then they're perfectly fine

what's not fine is bullying them for trying to play the game how they'd like to

sure it's fictional, but come on
it's a police game. we play pretend all the time.

[pine canyon]

If you’re gonna treat a video game like it’s the marines I’m gonna laugh, I’m sorry

On the unit promo page

[rich cobalt]

then laugh
just don't be a dick to them

[pine canyon]

All I did was ask if anyone else found it cringe

[tribal storm]

Oh ok. Hopefully it works and I get it. Thank you

[rich cobalt]

also, i'm surprised people haven't caught on to the fact that suspects also have protective gear against grenades.

suspects with goggles will also not be deterred by flashes.

and suspects with gas masks ignore CS entirely

[jolly verge]

(nope)

[sonic sleet]

I just wanna say that I finally beat greased palms on hard S tier this morning and the only reason it took me so long was trash ass teammates 😂🫡

[rich cobalt]

unless you have people who know what they're doing, you're bound to fail anyway.
glad you got S rank.

[sonic sleet]

I stg on Xbox at least you can make a post to get people who know what they’re doing and they’re all cocky and then get fucked up and always have some BS excuse instead of just owning it

[rich cobalt]

it's like the superman meme with the "I'M LAGGING" caption.

[sonic sleet]

Solo pushers can’t stick w the team bc they’re too good yk and then get merked

[rich cobalt]

"RGRGR I CANT BELIEVE CS GAS DOESNT WORK!!"

walks into a room right away without even waiting for CS to do its thing

only stacks for 1 second just to use their grenade, doesn't even bother to look through the doorway first

[stone bay]

didnt pax west already happen or was that pax east

[frail pier]

Pax east, I got them confused as hell too

[digital oriole]

What if this is a new map #announcements message

Pax Map when

[sonic sleet]

I’m surprised there isn’t like a casino map

[digital oriole]

Not payday also no one robs casinos

[sonic sleet]

Plenty of casino shootings though 😂

[digital oriole]

Yeah

[sonic sleet]

Whether bc of a concert at a casino or just random there’s plenty

[stoic thistle]

What mission do you guys think Void is running at their booth?

[digital oriole]

The woods map

Or a larger map from the trailers

[full verge]

Nice. Tough to do with randoms

[pine canyon]

How could that sick bastard hang up pictures of dolls

[rich cobalt]

more outdoors maps would be cool.
small, contained city shootout with multiple small shops to clear out.

[pine canyon]

That monster on valley of dolls

[rich cobalt]

or a map with a sniper.

that actually picks people off one by one.

[dense stag]

S rank the map then pop him every go around

[pine canyon]

Nah all he did was hang up dolls

[dense stag]

Naw

[pine canyon]

Yes

Those barrels are filled with dolls too

Free him, scumbag swat team framed him

[rich cobalt]

and all diddy did was host buffet events and epstein threw birthday parties

[sonic sleet]

Idk if it’s worse to solo empty multiplayer lobby S tier Hard everything or to play w dumbasses

[frail pier]

Solo more fun IMO

[pine canyon]

Diddy didn’t have walls plastered wi th dolls, which isn’t a crime

Valley of dolls violated his 4th amendment rights

He buried those barrels in his basement just to get rid of old dolls

[signal verge]

Why can AI trace me trough walls

[pine canyon]

Because that’s what bad guys do in real life

[marsh lark]

AI traces you through walls for like 2 seconds. It would be kinda weird if they suddenly stopped shooting just because you are behind a wall

[frozen cave]

Am I the only one who hated Rusty Belt?

[pallid root]

I’ve never played it I still gotta finish elephant and fyi I HATE that mission solely bc of that stupid bomb that I can never find

[frozen cave]

Yeah it was horrible
But I clear every suspect and civilian before starting searching for the bomb
It take me at least 10 try

The guy in the comtac know that there is two bomb, he know when they are gonna explode
But he don't know where are they

[alpine bloom]

the AI is locked towards the player and ignores assuming how deep is the wall pretty much according to a youtube video debunking it with replay mode in the game

[alpine bloom]

Isn't there like beeping noises for that?

[dense stag]

😭 if you need a carry I can help.

Going for S rank or?

[marsh lark]

Yeah I know, honestly I have no idea if they can find a middle ground

[alpine bloom]

They have crazy depth perception ong

[dense stag]

If I’m correct there’s a 30 minute timer for said bombs look for the active poppers first then bombs

Unless it’s shorter I ran my commander run on standard

[dusty lintel]

quick question, can an officer with the paramedic trait save themselves?

[alpine bloom]

I remember objective said its 15 minutes? [in the phone ingame]