👮ron-discussion

[desert island]

basically governments around the world causes ESRB to be made for arbitrary reasons and now ppl have to do it

[prisma tusk]

China is a pretty large market for ron already.

[vast carbon]

the hostage thats being held at gunpoint seeing the swat member with an m1014:

[silent terrace]

still it's stupid

[warped willow]

steams average is 28 million players

[shut anvil]

im talking about potential console customers to buy ron

[wet moat]

grew up mate, it's a game more people the better even if it cames at a cost

[warped willow]

how many sales does the steam version have rn?

[desert island]

9 mill

[vast carbon]

the cost being the whole appeal of the game?

[warped willow]

is the game on any other platform?ž

[vast carbon]

censoring the brutal realism?

[desert island]

no

[silent terrace]

I didn't mean it's stupid from the developer's side, it's stupid from the other side that it has to be done so the game can be published, the realism legit made the game

[shut anvil]

then i think im being VERY generous regarding the whole "people who would be interested in RON in particular" part of my hypothetical count, if so few PC players got the game

wrong reply, meant to reply to @desert island: #👮ron-discussion message

[wet moat]

the appeal of the game is realism i get that however no officer would dismember a dead body

[stone bay]

im already impressed by Ready Or Not's popularity, but i dont think censoring will really handicap the amount of new players

[desert island]

i doubt theyll come close to 9 mill sales on console

[crude prism]

9.5 MILLION is a few?

For an indie SWAT shooter?

[shut anvil]

compared to my hypothetical 28m console players

[warped willow]

and also, take acount the people that dont wanna pay for more games, arent in swat games and etc.

[shut anvil]

thats all accounted for
#👮ron-discussion message

[vast carbon]

i forgot that ron is technically an indie game

[sharp roost]

How much money to put a battle royale into ready or not someone please answer

[stone bay]

ron is also based on a cult classic from 2005 so its already amazing it has such a strong community

[wet moat]

everyone forgets that and the reason why they had to do minor censoring unlike the Triple A Studios

[warped willow]

theres alot more cod players that tactial players. atleast 1/4 would rather play a tactial game IMO

half seems to much

[desert island]

ron is doing pretty well

[shut anvil]

yeah i think you're right
we're probably closer to 5-13m console players who'd acutally get this game then

[vast carbon]

saw some dude say that he doesnt like ron because of the amount of traps

[sharp roost]

Will there be mods for console RoN

[vast carbon]

someone show this guy a mirror gun

[stone bay]

many people will want something to move on to after rainbow 6 siege, so i think ron will do well

[sharp roost]

Aww shucks

[vast carbon]

does he know

[warped willow]

"is ron coming out with the ps4" ahh question

[sharp roost]

Well to be fair ark had in built mod support 🤷

[wet moat]

ark isnt running on the same engine as RoN

[sharp roost]

I’m just an optimistic person 💔

[vast carbon]

get a pc bro trust me 💔

[warped willow]

epic games launcher is the most popular game launcher

[shut anvil]

among infant children sure

[sharp roost]

Ik but like that means I have to get the J word

[stone bay]

void should port popular mods to console as DLC

[vast carbon]

a j....

[wet moat]

that's like saying EA is a good game company

[warped willow]

could they branch to epic games?

[vast carbon]

a j*b...?

[wet moat]

probably not

[warped willow]

or is there a specific reason they dont want to

[twin basin]

Ron will always be alive in PC, but are they going to port it to every forthcoming console gen?

[sharp roost]

Thank goodness you censored it bro I was gonna have a heart attack

[stone bay]

i think ron will always be strongest on PC unless a social zeitgeist of some kind foments

[wet moat]

why would they need to branch to another launcher, steam is alot more user friendly and is the better launcher

[warped willow]

ron on ubisoft connect when?

[vast carbon]

no but seriously, saving up for a pc or even just a decent laptop is a really good investment

[feral sundial]

I love this pfp vro

[warped willow]

thx

[wet moat]

only ubisoft games are on that and EA Launcher will only have EA Games

[stone bay]

im gonna be honest ron is hard for me to run lol

[sharp roost]

I have a gtx 1650 with 8gb of ram on my gaming laptop but for some reason I still have trouble running ron 🥀

[warped willow]

i think i got it from a tiktok by the offical country of romania

[vast carbon]

launch through directx11 and try to lower ur graphics

[wet moat]

graphics wise?

[vast carbon]

oh my god dude

[stone bay]

i usually play w friends so i need to find people with budget towers like mine

[wet moat]

tbf it's a laptop

[warped willow]

i have a 7800xt and a 5600x, i am getting around 200 fps on high BUT i am playing on a 900p monitor...

[stone bay]

i have an amd 5600x3d cpu and a 6650 gpu

[warped willow]

ok yeah they said they wont https://x.com/VOIDInteractive/status/1937944153133822000

[quaint rose]

I have an AMD A8-7600, 16 gig DDR3, 4gig of VRAM in the iGPU

The game walks, slowly. It doesnt run.
But eh, playable so cant complain

[stone bay]

i just want to be able to run the game, i played swat4 for 15 years so i do not mind bad graphics lol

[warped willow]

did the ue5 update impact performance?

[amber dock]

Why wouldn’t it

UE5 is known for being the most unoptimised engine ever

[warped willow]

kinda? If you dont optimize the game yeah

[sharp roost]

It’s just a lil bit outdated I can probably gta 6 no problem right

[warped willow]

UE5 is a amazing game engine, that is used poorly

[amber dock]

Even if you optimise as much as you can it will still kinda run terrible

Hence why it’s not really liked

[stone bay]

wish there was a mod that gave it ps1 graphics lol

[warped willow]

maybe worse, but how bad performance is getting now no way its all ue5s fault

[amber dock]

I mean end of the day it’s epic games who made the engine lol

[quaint rose]

UE5 is the worst thing that has happened to gaming

[amber dock]

So kinda falls on them making it run

[warped willow]

even epic games doesnt know how to use it atp, like fortnite is so fucking unoptimized

[quaint rose]

It allows for even easier slop game creation by AAA studios

[amber dock]

There’s a reason UE5 games get called ‘slop’ cause it usually always ends up being bad

Ahem

Body cam

[shut anvil]

i hear VERY mixed things about body cam

[vast carbon]

gta 6 is coming out on ps3 right twin 🥹

[warped willow]

and guys btw IM STILL IN THE FUCKING POST OFFICE MISSION AFTER A HOUR

[amber dock]

Cause it’s a asset flip game basically

[shut anvil]

yeah that mission sucks ass

[amber dock]

Just to satisfy tactical community and people who need their games to look like real life

[vast carbon]

why do people dislike home invasion

[quaint rose]

Games dont need to look like real life or even feel like real life to be enjoyably realistic

[amber dock]

Mainly due to engine swap

So performance ended up taking kinda a dip with it

Content wise it’s fine

It’s nothing special though

[quaint rose]

Look at ArmA, Insurgency Sandstorm, BeamNG, ETS/ATS, and many more games

[warped willow]

HOLY SHIT MY AI IS ASS

[shut anvil]

i love you pick some of the games that can arguably look or feel the most immersive and real in the right conditions

[amber dock]

Uh oh

Spreadsheet man is here

Everyone hide

[quaint rose]

These games dont generally have the best graphics or feel, theyre just generally immersive

[buoyant pecan]

When are Shayne Please Shut Up and Isaac Morgan inevitably doing SWAT 4 lore videos

[shut anvil]

arma sure, INS:S has some really good graphics though so i highly disagree there and just a few mods on ETS and it's damn realistic

[buoyant pecan]

Yea from what I hear it’s kind of a gimmick game

[quaint rose]

INS:S still doesnt have the feel. The AI isnt the best, and the graphics might be very good but still can be differentiated from irl

And yeah ETS with mods is great but pure ETS is also very immersive though not perfect

[warped willow]

I GOT A FUCKING E

[buoyant pecan]

There just isn’t a game out there like RoN or SWAT 4 or even Rainbow Six Vegas rn
Like no games are in that style other than like, Zero Hour?
The tactical military shooters are almost all super boring and grey visually

[warped willow]

HOLY SHIT IF MY AI JUST DIDINT SHOOT A CIVILIAN

[shut anvil]

AI is hit or miss i agree, but PVP or even just PVE multiplayer where you have enough banter between one another or other shit to worry about, and the AI's mistakes can easily be missed

[buoyant pecan]

I’d be more interested in tactical military games if their audience weren’t a bunch of angry larpers and the visuals didn’t just look like either Verdansk or a generic Middle East Warzone repeated over and over

[shut anvil]

i was going to say squad but the maps 9/10 times are desert town #500

[buoyant pecan]

Yeah I can’t stand that shit
Like Modern Warfare 2019. Loved the gunplay, loved the weapon variety, hated the maps both in gameplay design and visual design

[shut anvil]

personally idm it, if the map still looks somewhat good (which for squad, they do imo) then i dont care lol

[tawny ivy]

A dream map for me is like a skyscraper building where everybody except one person gos in and that one person would be a sniper on another building that would be able to go from building to building but to get better views but it would take a minute to travel from location to location I thought it would be a cool idea

[shut anvil]

a minute may be a bit much for the guy playing the sniper, sounds cool otherwise though

[buoyant pecan]

That’s fair I guess I’m just tired of “generic Eastern European dilapidated town”, “generic industrial area” and “generic middle eastern desert area”

[shut anvil]

oh yeah i get that 100% lol

[tawny ivy]

I don't mean a minute but like they would have to run up a small pair of stairs or something like that

[warped willow]

what does fsr 3 native upscaled mean?

[buoyant pecan]

I like games like RoN because the maps can be anywhere from some dude’s house, to a hotel, to a concert, a night club, a yacht, etc

[shut anvil]

ready or not playable sniper when

[buoyant pecan]

K-9 unit when

[shut anvil]

duuude imagine playable sniper with the dark waters helicopter that'd be fucking fire

[tawny ivy]

I would rather have a mission where you play as a sniper then there being a sniper rifle in the game

[buoyant pecan]

Ngl I was kinda confused about how the Dark Waters heli worked

[shut anvil]

no i meant like your idea, they're in a seperate building

[tawny ivy]

Thated be sick I'm waiting for the game to come to Xbox iv been watching videos of it all the time can't wait

[warped willow]

does the game cap at 240 fps?

[shut anvil]

they say where they see movement from suspect/civilians in compass directions, which if you have the compass enabled can be seen in the bottom right i believe

[buoyant pecan]

I couldn’t tell if you were able to control the camera or not and if there was a sniper in the helicopter

[shut anvil]

no sniper, cameras are just to look through

[buoyant pecan]

Cause my first playthrough of mirage, I was in a room with like 5 enemies on different sides when all of a sudden several of them just die and I couldn’t even see where the shots were coming from

[tawny ivy]

Like on a map instead of controling the sniper you could open your tablet and control the scope of the sniper through a camera or something like that

[stone bay]

sniper mode would be insane lol

[quaint rose]

Roughly said its an upscaling method by amd, allows you to play at lower resolution while keeping the same screen size
good for fps, bad for visuals. It can produce many visual artifacts

[buoyant pecan]

Dunno if it was a glitch or my squad mates were just extremely efficient

[shut anvil]

latter probably

[earnest lance]

yo guys is it still posible to get the hawaiian shirt? cause i dont see it on my menu .-.

[stone bay]

hot take but i hope we get a miku skin

[tawny ivy]

I got a question do we know more information on the stuff that will be realsed with the console resale of the game

[stone bay]

imagine miku vocoder saying "put your fuckin hands up!!"

[tawny ivy]

I want a skin of the police officer from clowldy chance of meat balls

[buoyant pecan]

It was so weird cause I don’t even remember seeing them all firing
Those guys just all like dropped dead as I was shooting one of them

[warped willow]

this is going to be the miku skin btw #🎬ron-clips-and-media message

[buoyant pecan]

Tactical Miku

[stone bay]

OH GOD

[shut anvil]

hell yeah

[tawny ivy]

I know there will be a pepper ball pistol and I think three maps

[warped willow]

wait, new maps are coming out after console realese?

[quaint rose]

#🎬ron-clips-and-media message

[buoyant pecan]

I’m thinking Miku Miku ooo wee ooo

[warped willow]

fire 🔥

[tawny ivy]

Iv seems couple vids of it and if you ask google it says ya not sure if wrong information but not sure

[quaint rose]

I had that saved for millenia and now I can use it

[stone bay]

deploying green onion

[warped willow]

is there a specific level for image perms in here?

[feral sundial]

Nope you need a role

[warped willow]

is ready or not coming to the nintendo switch 2 😭

[lone cloud]

that would definitely come with more censorship if it were to happen

[tawny ivy]

Hey question Xbox player here waiting for console realsed I got a question for weapons items and clothing do u have to unlock items and if so how or do u get everything off the bat

[warped willow]

e shop

there is a very unceonsored game in the e shop

[quaint rose]

RoN is gonna become splatoon 4 if that happens

[stiff summit]

is there a way to adjust the zoom level on the x1-x12 scope or is it just stuck on x12?

[quaint rose]

And void will 100% force the splatoon 4 build on all platforms

[warped willow]

https://www.reddit.com/r/ReadyOrNotGame/comments/1lracd0/ready_or_not_2_announcement_pc_console_release/

[quaint rose]

Exactly

[stone bay]

its fixed

[quaint rose]

thats RoN in a few years

[warped willow]

nah bro thats the china realese

[quaint rose]

Nah it says SWAT instead of PLA

[stiff summit]

not much of a 1-12 then. hopefully they change that!

[proven blade]

According to Amanda Brunti, Amos Voll did not kill himself.

[fiery skiff]

All of the weapons are technically accessible unless they change it for console release you do unlock like clothes and. Tattoos and i think additional accessories when you complete missions and depending on score too

[warped willow]

still more censoring then 😭

[tawny ivy]

Thanks wasn't sure

[fiery skiff]

Yeah I got it on pc with both DLCs its pretty cool

[warped willow]

ngl atp the console players gonna be more mature than the avg pc ron player

[tawny ivy]

I'm planning to buy the 70 dollar version to get both dlcs cant wait

[fiery skiff]

Yo did they already censor the game or are they waiting for console release to do so?

[quaint rose]

you played AA:PG?

[warped willow]

what?

[quaint rose]

America's Army: Proving Grounds, the propaganda game by the us army

[warped willow]

oh yeah

i played through the tutorial once

[quaint rose]

I remember creating an american playstation account just to play it

[fiery skiff]

Ah nice. I got. The game at full EA price and then i got dlcs half off im glad pc is getting all the console content free its only
Right especially since we day 1.

[quaint rose]

since im in Germany

[buoyant pecan]

TOC to entry team: suspects may in fact be both kids and squids.

[warped willow]

is german censorship for games less strict now?

[fiery skiff]

I think we should get extra stuff for them censoring the game too;p throw us some extra free maps haha

[tawny ivy]

True I understand stand that I'm excited to play can't keep it off my mind lol

[proven blade]

The censorship isn’t that bad

[buoyant pecan]

Ngl they should be giving us that anyways

I need MOAR levels

[crude prism]

Germany recently censored both dying light 2 and dead island 2 for having corpse dismemberment

[limber tulip]

Didn’t work

[warped willow]

is ready or not playable in germany?

[buoyant pecan]

My top 2 most wanted are uhhhh
Serial killer level
Amusement park/carnival level

[limber tulip]

That’s bullshit considering their choice history

[tawny ivy]

If I'm right we're getting 3 on console realse

[quaint rose]

its gotten less strict though it never really was an issue thanks to change regions being a thing on most platforms or alternatively vpn

[warped willow]

steam does ban you if you vpn alt

[buoyant pecan]

I think we only getting 2
The apartments and the Mexican restaurant

[fiery skiff]

Yeah but normally when they release maps its paid but it would he cool if they released a free DLC with a couple maps For PC players. It might lessen the backlash. But thats just an idea lol

[buoyant pecan]

I’d be down for that

[crude prism]

yes

[fiery skiff]

Yaaa what kinda map would you guys want them to add!?

[buoyant pecan]

I’m down for pretty much any more content as long as we don’t get another post office or giant hospital

[buoyant pecan]

I have so many ideas lol

[fiery skiff]

You waiting for console?

[buoyant pecan]

Casino, amusement park, serial killer house

[tawny ivy]

I guess it was 2 I thought it was three but we're getting a less lethal pistol 3 other guns more changes and a difficulty changer

[buoyant pecan]

Museum level would be pretty cool

[fiery skiff]

casino!, Bank! Ahhhhh what else lol

[tawny ivy]

Ye can't wait

[stone bay]

im excited for all new updates. cant possibly be as bad as payday 2. right

[fiery skiff]

What you gonna play on?

[buoyant pecan]

I think a putt putt/mini golf course would go crazy but that would probably tie into an amusement park level

[tawny ivy]

Payday 2 was fire we don't talk about payday 3

[buoyant pecan]

Why did autocorrect change level to lebron

[tawny ivy]

Xbox but the game should be cross play

[fiery skiff]

Lmfao no offense to payday but payday is like the dirt on RoN's shoe lol

[buoyant pecan]

Also, a level inspired by the Scarface mansion would go crazy

[stone bay]

100

[buoyant pecan]

Payday is Left 4 Dead but with pig zombies

[fiery skiff]

Yes sir. Imma push some of my xbox friends to get it i got a xbox and a ps5 but im just sticking to my pc especially since i already have everything baught

[tawny ivy]

Werid to say but a airport map or mall would be cool to see don't think we'd ever get either of those to or a sewer system map would go hard

[buoyant pecan]

Would love a mall
Might be too big tho

[warped cave]

bank 🙏 🙏

[buoyant pecan]

I think a motel would be cool
Maybe one of those cheesy hawaii-themed motels with a half-dead blinking neon sign

[stone bay]

bank, airport, mall, and suburbs please Void im begging you

[fiery skiff]

So casino, bank, airport, mall , motel 🔥🔥🔥🔥

[tawny ivy]

I'm fine with a big map think it would be fire

[buoyant pecan]

Suburbs would go hard
I’d love for a suburbs level during autumn so there’d be jack-o-lanterns and Halloween decorations on the houses

[fiery skiff]

We got a suburbs already kinda

[tawny ivy]

Ya any of those I'd most likely pay money for

[buoyant pecan]

Closest thing we have to suburbs is Narcos tho that’s more like ghetto suburbs

[tawny ivy]

And we need snow maps plz

[desert island]

shooting peoples dogs when

[buoyant pecan]

It very rarely snows in California

[stone bay]

HOA suburbs are a whole other level brosephina

[buoyant pecan]

But I’d love it

[tawny ivy]

I know but sometimes swat teams are called to other places so you never know

[fiery skiff]

They got mini malls i think it could work airport would be too big but the could do a section of an airport

[buoyant pecan]

If RoN 2 happens I hope it’s in a different state/city like Vegas or Florida or New Jersey

[desert island]

they get called to an oil rig and yacht so

[tawny ivy]

Or like a strip mall map where you have to clear like a line or group of buildings

[stone bay]

art gallery mission please

[desert island]

they r deploying lspd on coast guard missions

[buoyant pecan]

I have a concept for a imaginary tactical shooter with missions involving different teams in different states

[fiery skiff]

Ya would be cool most of the maps are kinda like areas in ruins. But they got a few mansions, the yacht is really cool

[buoyant pecan]

I’d love a history museum stage
Dinosaur skeletons and WWI memorobilia and stuff

[tawny ivy]

I think a strip mall map would be fun where you have to clear multiple building in a line or group small and big

[stone bay]

the main reason i say suburbs is because so many real world deployments of SWAT teams are in residential areas, and some famous events were in upscale suburbs

[tawny ivy]

Like a cave map would go hard like a hostage situation in a cave

[fiery skiff]

Museum would be pretty cool

[desert island]

most famous swat raids were on paramilitary cult compounds

[stone bay]

natural history museum would be so insanely dope but RIP to all the fossils lol

[fiery skiff]

That already exists theres a mission near the border where you go in tunnels its lowkey pretty hard

[desert island]

methlab and cartel had tunnels

[fiery skiff]

We got a cult mission already too

[tawny ivy]

I know that but I mean like in a national park type cave where people would actually be

[desert island]

cult farm replaced the paramilitary farm

[fiery skiff]

Ah i gotcha

[buoyant pecan]

Maybe have a cartel trying to steal some super expensive artifact from a museum

[tawny ivy]

It's weird think about map ideas for this game it doesn't fell right saying them out loud lol

[desert island]

super spy

[stone bay]

that was a fun mission but i think people expect something more like the children of tarrone mission in swat4 where they're like Branch Davidians or something

[desert island]

maybe a map where a civilian is trying to steal something and has like thugs attack the place as a distraction

like national treasure

[tawny ivy]

I would not be surprised if they had some type of clue clan mission in this game not sure if they already have one but wouldn't be surprised

[stone bay]

im also surprised they didnt do a bank heist mission modeled on the Heat shootout

[desert island]

bank heist at all

[fiery skiff]

My top has to be bank, casino and maybe mall because it could have alot of detail to it especially casino they could also make a different mission type having to do with money.

[desert island]

modelled on the hollywood shooting that caused swat to be made

some armored guys robbed the bank but police only had pistols and shotguns

[stone bay]

do you mean the game or the branch of the police

[desert island]

the real life robbery

[stone bay]

SWAT teams were formed vaguely in the late 60s

[fiery skiff]

Idk i feel like a tunnel mission you kind. Just in the dark with not much of an environment. I just like maps with alot going for it

[tawny ivy]

I think a cool map would be your called out to a shooting or some sort of hostage situation or robbery and the building gets set on fire in the middle of the building like a 2 or 3 story building while your inside and you have to get as many people out as u can while your dealing with enemy's

[fiery skiff]

They have some like that. Like the college one those are lowkey my least favorite like the active shooters because you have to be really fast and you lose a shit ton of points lmao

[tawny ivy]

I like missions that make you think fast and don't have time to pause

[dense wind]

Censorship talk died down?

[desert island]

oil rig

[tawny ivy]

Ye it's really just weirdos who care the most there barley changeing anything

[stone bay]

lol why are they sending swat to an oil rig bro like please tell me im getting overtime for this

[fiery skiff]

They need to do some
Rebalancing or something on that one lol because i like barley entered the building and it was already deducting dead civilian points lol

[desert island]

u get an all expenses paid vacation and yacht

[tawny ivy]

Probably the only close people to it and proboly needed a team out quick

I haven't played game yet I just do my research on the game because I'm to exited

[desert island]

yacht oilrig and beachhead

[stone bay]

its also funny to me that the bad guys on the oil rig mission were essentially Greenpeace activists with AR-15s

[desert island]

they r ecoterrorists

[fiery skiff]

I dont really care but i think they should thow pc players some
Extra free stuff for us getting censored lol

[desert island]

they got silenced p90s

[feral sundial]

A yacht level would be cool

[crude prism]

"we should attack random oil workers instead of OIL Execs for some reason" -Heros of the people

[fiery skiff]

We already got it lol

[warped willow]

imagine if it was like the cod bo2 yacht

[stone bay]

call the SWAT team the way im killing these beers in real time

[feral sundial]

[warped willow]

wait what?

[desert island]

they were funded by big oil to make eco activists look bad

[warped willow]

is it a dlc or smt

[desert island]

yeah its the coast guard dlc

[fiery skiff]

yeah @feral sundial its part of the DLC

[stone bay]

do not tell me you dont know the yacht level

[warped willow]

i started playing yesterday

[dense wind]

I like free

[fiery skiff]

Ill see if i can find the clip on Youtube lol

[desert island]

who do u think paid for their p90s

[twin bramble]

I want a subway level like swat 4 had

[tawny ivy]

Or it's weird say and proboly would be hard for them to do but a bigg like riot or protest with alot of people like a shooting oryour just called to a riot or protest and have to control the crowd with riot shields and none leathel weapons

[feral sundial]

Can we get a gas station level?

[karmic bison]

does the potential new hires selection refresh every mission

[twin bramble]

Ya make a gas station level and call it 4u gas station

[stone bay]

never give up

[desert island]

resident evil gas station

[crude prism]

I think we need MORE pizza levels, this is definitely what the people want

[feral sundial]

Ikr that's smart

[fiery skiff]

Now you busting balls lmfao literally the first level lmao

[desert island]

slice the pie

[warped willow]

i wanna after the FUCKING POST OFFICE MISSION /j

[feral sundial]

Muehehe just joking around

[stone bay]

sklissue

[fiery skiff]

Ya we need to feel
Loved after getting censored lol

[fiery skiff]

https://youtu.be/BbxznEErPZQ?si=Ie6LhUeB7FWhsY2a

[feral sundial]

Y'all ever feel like void should make a swat game? I think ready or not would be a good name for it

[tawny ivy]

I think a protest crowed controll map would make sense for a game like this where u need to use none leathel and add batons to the game

[desert island]

swat 5

[twin bramble]

If you’re stuck on the post office level instead of fighting thru the main room go around the left and fight your way down outside and go in thru the shipping and receiving

[fiery skiff]

Damn how rude lol

[stone bay]

the yacht mission is challenging because you need to find the sheikh, and even after playing the mission like 3 times i didnt realize the helicopter is literally spotlighting him on the boat

[desert island]

me running thru the map shooting evryone to find the sheikh

[fiery skiff]

I feel like that would be very resource intensive.

Having a bunch of npcs grouped up like that

[desert island]

judge can take on peaceful protestors

[twin bramble]

SWAT and riot control are 2 different things anyway

[tawny ivy]

Ya it would take alot but add a couple more friendly ai

[desert island]

this is an illegal congregation

disperse immediately

[fiery skiff]

https://tenor.com/view/dave-chappelle-rick-james-charlie-murphy-slap-what-did-the5fingers-say-to-the-face-gif-16084689

Awww

[dense wind]

Is there a horror map

Mod*

[stone bay]

half the missions are horror

[ionic gale]

Twisted nerve makes me shidded my pants

[untold tartan]

No joke, Solo S Rank run
I had to pray to Jesus and speedrun the building without cuffing any civs just to get the shooters and bombs in time lmao
It took me like, two days and 20-30 attempts maybe?
Better than my Solo S Rank run of The Spider… That was pain.

[stone bay]

lol

[untold tartan]

Nah, cause look at this!

https://tenor.com/view/get-the-gas-smoke-them-out-gas-gas-gas-cs-gas-cs-smoke-gif-18039063

Aw man
No gifs

[untold tartan]

Funny thing about that
S Ranking solo is… It hurts the soul when you miss like 3 pieces of evidence that aren’t there.
I want my tattoo damnit

[warped willow]

dlss 4 might be added soon to ron since its now intergrated into ue5

[fiery skiff]

Ya i dont plan on s-ranking that 1 lmfao i only s ranked the gas station haha

[eternal crow]

If you’re using AI just load them in body armor and tell them to clear each room.

Great strat for Ironman

[untold tartan]

I mean, you can do it
It’s just rough doing solo

And S-ranks are pretty easy when you have cooperative teammates. And CS gas. Lots of CS gas.

[fiery skiff]

If im being honest i never played RoN multiplayer maybe once just with my cousin but it was on. My steam deck prior to controller support lmao but now i have a beast of a PC lol and the controllers are allot more fluid

[warped willow]

how good are beanbags in ron?

[ionic gale]

They’re the best non-lethal primary in the game

[warped willow]

if you shot a civ with beanbags, does it count as use of force?

[ionic gale]

Doesn’t matter if the suspect has armor… The shock of the beanbag is going to make that suspect hurt and comply

[ionic gale]

I don’t know, I never done that

[warped willow]

so beanbags are good for s ranking then?

[untold tartan]

I personally didn’t start using them until recently due to the whole “headshot with them is a kill” thing.
But as long as you have shot control, it’s pretty good and you get a lot of shells.
The pepperball rifle is good too but takes a bit more effort to bring suspects down with.

[warped willow]

do beanbags have good range?

[ionic gale]

The thing is that I wouldn’t arm your entire team with beanbag shotguns

[untold tartan]

As for ranking, I’ve liked both the pepperball and beanbag for it. I mostly use CS Gas for room clears anyway

And beanbags have the range you’d expect. Not too long, not too short.
Think a normal shotgun slug range.

[vernal bane]

No, unless they are complying.

[ionic gale]

Just equip them with the pepper ball gun because… your teammates will eventually hit a suspect in the head and you can kiss your s rank mission goodbye

[untold tartan]

Bingo

Have diversity with weaponry
You need a good mix

[warped willow]

beanbags can kill?

[ionic gale]

Only if you hit them in the head, they travel so fucking fast that they can basically crack your skull or something similar

Aim for anywhere else, but the head

That’s why it’s called a Less Lethal… not a Non Lethal

Two very different things

[warped willow]

peper ball gun is non lethal or less lethal?

[ionic gale]

In game non lethal

Technically, I wrote I guess it can be classified as a Leslie for but like it’s not the thing that’s doing the killing directly

[warped willow]

so irl it can kill?

[ionic gale]

Like let’s say that a suspect is on some balcony and you basically hit him with some pepper spray and they fucking… fall off the balcony and die because they snapped their neck all the way down

[warped willow]

died from natrual causes bro

[ionic gale]

It could technically kill somebody in an indirect way

[warped willow]

we aint do nothing, i didint kill that civ and push him off the edge

he fell off himself

[ionic gale]

Is what I’m saying… but no they’re non lethal themselves

[ionic gale]

Yeah, let’s just say that in the incident report

[warped willow]

is there falldamage in ron?

[ionic gale]

There probably is but vanilla maps do not offer any place to a fall damage so it’s basically nonexistent

[warped willow]

If there is, can npcs take fall damgage?

[ionic gale]

I don’t know? I mean, I was in the lobby where somebody threw voll off of his cat walk so

He was fine though

[finite osprey]

Aye if i beat ironman mode( i havent beaten game normally) but if i beat it will i get all cosmetics or should i beat it first for all cosmetics n shi etc like nornmal beat it

[zenith parrot]

I'm thinking about getting Ready or Not is it worth it?

[warped willow]

You can just buy and play for less than 2 hours to see how good the game is

and refund it if you dont like it

[ionic gale]

I would get the game on sale myself

[warped willow]

yeah it is half life rn

[zenith parrot]

Your right.

[crude prism]

Yes, I believe you can kill suspects/civilians by throwing them off of high places

[autumn wagon]

is it possible to reset progress? Aka all clothes, mission records, evidence yadeyada

[stark fox]

would like to know too. Mine annoying bugged out with the mission time showing fastest complete as the time it took before I alt f4'd a dead run instead of beating it

[autumn wagon]

yeah, i mostly wanna do it just since it was some time since i played and give an incentive to S rank again

[static relic]

do y'all run kevlar, ceramic, or steel? and at light, medium, or heavy?

[wet moat]

Clearing save data

[autumn wagon]

And this is done where?

[wet moat]

On steam in the game properties I believe unless you crash the game

[crude prism]

Ceramic gaming. You really only need front/back in light armor. But heavy armor + side plates is nice if you wanna tank sometimes

[static relic]

so ceramic + light armor, heavy if you need a tad bit more survival?

[autumn wagon]

I genuinely got no idea how to do that so if anyone got like a "guide" on how to do it it would be appreciated

[static relic]

I stopped touching steel because of desync in public lobbies and i dont think i've touched ceramic ever yet

[wet moat]

Google would help for once

[autumn wagon]

pretty sure i just found something

[heavy shoal]

So when you first load into the game can you go to the range and train before you even do the first mission

[knotty sage]

What would be 8pm In NYC be in south Eastern Wisconsin

[stone bay]

7?

[knotty sage]

Yes

[brave condor]

embed fail 🥲

[knotty sage]

Used an time converter

[desert island]

ppl rly excited to play 2 maps and 3 guns

[stone bay]

yes

[warped willow]

slowmode test

@main blade ron discussion has 10 seconds still btw

[sharp roost]

Guys will there be cross save progression between platforms

[covert aurora]

no

[main blade]

uwu

[main blade]

uwu

[covert aurora]

howdy

[main blade]

hi linchy poo

[covert aurora]

how are you Spect?

[main blade]

haven't started taking my clothes off for money yet hbu

[covert aurora]

uh good, been home from work for like almost an hour so just chillin

[main blade]

gg gg

[main blade]

RONcord moderators: general is censorship spam and ron discussion is hashbrown cat spam...we've lost control

[manic prism]

And I can't wait!!

[main blade]

@stable kernel post the screenshot of you uwuing at me as toc

[stable kernel]

Let me remind y’all of the pins in general

Los suenos streets ain’t safe for old hash brown

[main blade]

mute me senpai

[stone bay]

lspd lemme see those hams

[main blade]

wait no-

[sharp roost]

[covert aurora]

this is true.

[tame condor]

Nah Hash has his own Glock he ain’t scared

[static relic]

are tasers good as a non-lethal option to aid the beanbag shotgun?

also what nonlethals are good besides the beanbag shotgun

[stable kernel]

Taser and all the launchers depending on your preferences on setup

Pepper items f tier, don’t even bother to try and change my mind

[static relic]

i'm a menace of public lobbies and love gas

[static relic]

can the taser still be used with the shield?

[stable kernel]

No

[static relic]

what if i hook up a car battery to the shield and beat people with it

[stable kernel]

Um well

Idk if the roe allows that one

You can melee with the taser though for the same effect

[ruby umbra]

Are the two dlc worth it at 50% off?

[static relic]

can you bring back the shield + taser combo :3

[stable kernel]

Actually the best way to handle non compliant civs

[static relic]

i did it for the drip and the dark water maps are nice

[ruby umbra]

I played at least the oil rig map in random multiplayer but I often play with friends and none of them have the dlc so I figured if I hosted the game, we would be able to play

[static relic]

i just don't like the oil rig because it's a maze lmao

[ruby umbra]

How are the cosmetics in home invasion

I mean I'll probably end up buying it anyways cause I think home invasion has that shoreline mansion which looks cool

[buoyant pecan]

One of my jobs has me barely scheduled next week
Gotta wait and see for the other job but I should have plenty of time to play ronsole

[static relic]

theyre nice

[stone bay]

one week gentelmen and nonbinaries

[buoyant pecan]

Hell yeah

[dusty shuttle]

Yea

[thin plover]

Im tryna play with my unc but it keeps saying “server requires you to have the same mods” or wtv

Neither of us have mods on

[karmic charm]

you gotta disable serverside checksum

its in settings, and also it allows for the host to have mods while the people joining dont need to have mods

[karmic charm]

i think so because im a game perfectionist and a lot of the achievements are locked behinds the DLCs (got mine yesterday lol)

[ruby umbra]

Yeah, I totally get that kinda sentiment, I suffer from severe fomo

I can't buy a game if it has dlc that I can't buy at the same time

And if a game releases dlc after I own it, I do typically buy it

Just kinda held out on Ron cause I thought $10 was maybe a bit much and I mostly care about the guns which were free

[shy tulip]

If you are worried about that, RoN allows you to play the DLC if a host has it even if you don't, so just find someone who does

[bitter marlin]

8.6blk when?

[ruby umbra]

I know, and like I've played the oil rig before just in random public lobbies, but I also run with 3 other friends often, and I like having the ability to have full control over when I play those maps

And I do also really like cosmetics

[stone bay]

port hokan is way harder than i remember damn

port hokan got hands

[compact veldt]

its that damn rain

[stone bay]

its enemies 1-shotting me from 100 meters away

[desert island]

owned

[karmic charm]

port hokan and i get the hermit achievement and the developer's watch!

this took me like 23 hours or smth idk

imagine i die LOL

[thin plover]

Worked ty

We are the best cops ever “FORKLIFT GET THE FUCK DOWN YOU YELLOW MOTHER FUCKER”

[willow trail]

Port hokan is fun with the m14 I love using nvgs and the super zoom scope

[weak kernel]

What is happening in general rn?

[willow trail]

RoNsole

[weak kernel]

I just came back after a long hiatus

[stone bay]

m14 is goated

[willow trail]

I wish I screen shotted it but I walked round the corner of the gas station last night, and landed a perfect shot in a suspect right between the eyes

[weak kernel]

I'm a long time supporter idk whats going on where are the mods

[willow trail]

Somewhere idk man

[weak kernel]

Is this just normal now lol?

[willow trail]

RoNsole no, hashbrown cat, yes

[weak kernel]

Shame to see all this going down, they should just do seperate versions.

[willow trail]

It’s what it’s

[weak kernel]

True that

[twin musk]

#🎨ron-screenshots-and-art :D

[gilded oar]

its a bit hard for them to do so, thus no 2 versions

[pure kernel]

Anyone know if there having a console variant of the discord

[main blade]

To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day 😔

hardly spoke to folks around him, didn't have too much to say 😔

[chilly thorn]

people are still talking about the censorship its been like a week and a half

[karmic charm]

tbh is censorship as big of a deal as console players are making it?

[main blade]

It's not console players complaining about it

[karmic charm]

oh what

[main blade]

Yeah dude 90+% of censorship complaints are from PC players mad their version is getting censored too even tho mods will be out post haste to undo it

but when you say that the common response is "oh so players have to fix what void is fucking up"

And no to answer your question the announcement detailing all of the censorship proves pretty well it's no where near as bad as players are making it out to be

[karmic charm]

yeah i mean i personally think the censorship wouldnt ruin the game as others put it...

[opaque zealot]

its not that deep

[main blade]

Most of it boils down to slippery slope fallacy or claims the censorship is "ruining the realism"

[opaque zealot]

as long as they dont take our hashbrown cat

[main blade]

and no matter how times you explain RON isn't realistic the response to that is usually "well yeah it's a videogame it's not realistic to the GAME WORLD"

[pseudo plaza]

time me out for 6 hours please so i can go to bed 💔

[stable kernel]

Turn off your phone bro

[main blade]

eman can you mute me for 30 seconds just so I can say you did

[stable kernel]

It's good for you

No

[pseudo plaza]

glued to my hand

[main blade]

WHY?!

[stable kernel]

Mod abuse something something

[main blade]

It's not abuse if its asked for

[pseudo plaza]

its not mod abuse if we ask for it

[stable kernel]

Check the most recent pin in general to see why

[main blade]

it's like a self exclusion from gambling

[stable kernel]

I am on thin ice

[main blade]

thin my ice senpai

[stable kernel]

That's unsafe

[stable kernel]

I am forbidden by court order from posting hashbrown

For the next couple decades

[pseudo plaza]

https://tenor.com/view/mcdonalds-hash-brown-breakfast-fast-food-hash-browns-gif-1440380104004471082

[gusty turret]

break free

[pseudo plaza]

no perms 😔

[gusty turret]

release the beast

[pseudo plaza]

dl reference

[gusty turret]

no

[gilded oar]

no not really

[pseudo plaza]

yes

[near tide]

i swore heads used to be deformable during the adam update now its just that gib where their face magically gets peeled up

[trim kettle]

It is though.

That child is literally sleeping.

[near tide]

yeah ik it looks like the child just kinda spawned there

[near tide]

same with the trafficked women their wearing fresh nike pros and their no longer malnourished they look like they just appeared there

[trim kettle]

If you change something then at least try so your changes would fit the scene.

[near tide]

FR like im fine if the censorship wasnt so random

[fiery vortex]

Confused as people who don't have modded lobbies sometimes get 6 people, wasn't the maximum 5?

[glass sage]

Gemme my money back you censoring 70s catholic mfrs

[gilded oar]

you can just play the game and enjoy its not like affecting you in terms of gameplay or

ragebait

it is from you

[glass sage]

Youre the reason hollywood murdered robin

"censorship" is a tool to control the public

[crude prism]

so real (so true) real (real) true (real) true (true)

[glass sage]

Go to north korea if you love censorship so much

[gilded oar]

man tf I did to hollywood I WAS'NT EVEN THERE

[gilded oar]

I don't like censorship either yes but I am just sayin like this update isn't affecting the over all gameplay you can still enjoy it without caring about gore and nudity

[glass sage]

We let these cokroaches take an inch they will take a mile

[gilded oar]

cockroaches? I thought Activison were the cockroach's

[glass sage]

They are but do you really want Void to become them?

Were MEN we deserve MAN games not little BABY games

[fathom laurel]

🗣️

[gilded oar]

butt even with these changes the atmosphere is still there

its justified if the entire tone of the game is completely changed

just like cod

[glass sage]

Any censorship iis an affront to Freedom

[fathom laurel]

the censorship changes are the most unimpactful things they could have changed lol. the only somewhat significant one is the girl convulsing -> sleeping

[gilded oar]

fr

[glass sage]

Yeah I wanna be able to shoot that little druged kid in the fat face

not some sleeping one

[fathom laurel]

you weren't ever able to do that...

[gilded oar]

sooo that's all you want to do? not like arrest, kill or rescue civs?

[glass sage]

I know lol

[fathom laurel]

not before the censorship, not after

[crude prism]

Were you complaining like this when Void aged up the school shooting to a college?

Or when they made it so you can't kill the kids in RoN anymore?

Is that not censorship? Or is it because someone other than Void is making the call?

[trail radish]

Me when no convulsing child

[gilded oar]

I mean the game isn't centered around it and your main objective is to just well ***Bring Order to Chaos ***

[stable kernel]

Pills colored red

[trail radish]

Hello mr modman

[crude prism]

https://tenor.com/view/sleep-gif-12944899486400191725

[stable kernel]

Alright no politics

[fathom laurel]

also I came in here to rant that this game pisses me off sometimes. got the "KILL ME" command on neon tomb due to "unauthorized use of force" when they were all literally shooting at me, no civs in the background either it just flagged the terrorists as innocents

peak RON gameplay

[willow trail]

is there any UP TO DATE mods that add in the locked / incomplete weapons (e.x. Sniper Or Not, Weapon unlocker)

[glass sage]

Why was my message deleted?

[gilded oar]

no I think it happens if you shoot the surrendering

[gilded oar]

yes for being political

[fathom laurel]

I thought so too but they had their guns raised and one of them LITERALLY shot at least one bullet

so that had me really confused

[glass sage]

Censorship is the first sign of Evil taking over

[gilded oar]

ROE is like that in the game

[fathom laurel]

I need that one mod that lets you shoot anyone with a gun no consequences, I feel like it's totally justified if there is a literal terrorist attack

[gilded oar]

but the game is still fun?

[trail radish]

@stable kernel I wanna ragebait this man, but I shan’t

[stable kernel]

No you won't

[trail radish]

I said I shan’t, I shall not

[glass sage]

nope a horrible SORE in my stomach has been created from VOIDS back turning and it burns every time i play now

[honest carbon]

What’s your favorite film?

[fathom laurel]

bait used to be believable

[glass sage]

Thats a hard question

[stable kernel]

Be civil y'all

[glass sage]

WHAT

[trail radish]

Discord members are angry and volatile

[gilded oar]

[crude prism]

there is only one correct answer in this server

(I've never seen this movie)

[glass sage]

MEH

[fiery vortex]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/921528178789474314/1290632376753586279/caption.gif

[glass sage]

it an alright movie

[fathom laurel]

oh yeah does anyone know what happened with the helldivers movie? wrong discord but like at least someone here has to have played it

[gilded oar]

nah

[hard carbon]

i dont think any information has been released beyond it's announcement

[fathom laurel]

damn

[valid raven]

ok TOC doesn’t like it when you duble tap

[hard carbon]

toc a little baby

[valid raven]

Technically its a crime against humanity

[dim lion]

what do yal think is harder ironman or s ranking everything

[valid raven]

I don’t ironmann

Also AI teammates kind of suck

[dim lion]

nah they aimbot

[valid raven]

You should be able to tell them to use any equipment you think that they should

[dim lion]

i think the only thing i hate is them blocking u in doorways

[valid raven]

Like you should be able to tell them to use a pistol or something

because in some situations, it’s actually better

although I wish you could carry more than one rifle at the cost of speed

[trail radish]

I’ve never really had a situation in the game where I would use a pistol over my primary

[valid raven]

Like people do carry more than one primary sometimes in cqc

So it’s not unbelievable

Like snipers carry an SMG and a handgun

[willow trail]

i now have an m67 frag grenade in ready or not, i just know those crack heads hate to see me comin

[hard carbon]

gulp

[bitter marlin]

Close tie between Blood Diamond and Revenge of The Sith

[dim lion]

doming ppl with the revolver is pretty fun

[valid raven]

am I the only one that feels like the stinger is a less lethal version of a frag grenade

[bitter marlin]

Ready or Not censorship update before GTA6😞🙏

[valid raven]

It’s really not that bad

[trail radish]

I’m waiting for the 50 ae, it’s gonna be a mind blowing experience for the suspects

[valid raven]

50 ae is kind of bad

[maiden sparrow]

🤣

[valid raven]

Say hi to constant over penetration

is over penetration when you hit a target and then it goes through them and hits another target

Killing somebody you didn’t intend for

[willow trail]

this is a good thing, cant get a veiw of the hostage takers head? go THROUGH the hostage

[trail radish]

308 has the same thing, but I haven’t had a problem with accidental deaths

[bitter marlin]

It’s not.

I really only have two problems with it

1. VOID was famous for not pulling their punches, showing only the grittiest side of humanity

And

2. All content from here on out will be censored. Not reaching its full potential of what could’ve been.

[valid raven]

why do a lot of the civilians not seem to realize that SWAT detainx everyone

[bitter marlin]

Still preordered though, I wanna dome people with 40mm and 50ae

[valid raven]

Like its SOP for most SWAT teams

although I would hate to be the unfortunate civilian that gets hit with a bunch of non-lethal because a gunman is nearby

[bitter marlin]

Not everyday you run into swat team… in our world atleast

[dim lion]

i mean they definetly do pull the punches a little the hospital mission has no children

[valid raven]

Depends where you live
but yeah, they don’t really get deployed often

[cosmic kelp]

But its not like it did, and they then removed them

[dim lion]

fair

[bitter marlin]

I don’t think they ever had us venture into the children’s wing

[trail radish]

Still though, I’m 100% maining the 50 cal pistol, gonna be two tapping people

[trim kettle]

It's not, but it done lazily

[valid raven]

Most SWAT is regular patrol officers

[dim lion]

yea u do u go thru the pediatric wing

[valid raven]

And they get activated

[bitter marlin]

50ae and beretta 1301 all day

[dim lion]

imma hop in the no death mode inb4 i die to a trap

[valid raven]

there is also a lot of regular patrol office involved in a SWAT raid

Like establishing a perimeter so if the suspects try to run outside and escape, they can grab them

[trail radish]

I’m more of a mossberg 590 guy

[valid raven]

Also most people
that get detained by SWAT teams will get escorted outside to the perimeter

Where a detective will determine if they are suspect or just a civilian that happened to be in the area

[bitter marlin]

I just wish it was the A1

I don’t particularly like shotgun mags

[wary magnet]

it is thi

[valid raven]

does anyone else always use the choke on the shotgun?

[valid raven]

Do you believe it is so you ought to find evidence that it is or do you believe that objectively

like are you looking for information to confirm what you already want to be true?

[trail radish]

Talked to one of the devs, they might add a tube fed one (keyword, might)

[bitter marlin]

🙏🙏🙏

[wary magnet]

its late i cant understand the words your saying

[hard carbon]

tube fed CONFIRMED, thanks I will send this to the sloptubers immediately

[trail radish]

I will send this to myself, thank you for notifying

[wary magnet]

but i think that they are removing the most brutal and realistic elements of the game which kind of ruins the whole thing all together

[trail radish]

Personally I disagree, but sure

[slim fern]

why are people upset that suspects can't be dismembered after death?

[hard carbon]

brutal and realistic?

[wary magnet]

yes because reality is brutal

[hard carbon]

which part of the game are you talking about

[wary magnet]

its not nice and thats the depiction of this game

[wary magnet]

heads and shotguns and hide and seek crate with fisa

[hard carbon]

shotgun headshots will be the exact same

[valid raven]

Question does anyone else know about like hooking and setting and stuff

[wary magnet]

shotguns in general

[valid raven]

I like to play with people with some aspects of tatics

[bitter marlin]

I haven’t seen anyone upset about that tbh

[hard carbon]

what about them

[valid raven]

Hello?

[hard carbon]

hello

[valid raven]

Am i being ingored?

[wary magnet]

blowing arms off

[valid raven]

I asked if anyone knows what hooking is

[hard carbon]

you will still be able to do that

[wary magnet]

i dont know bro i dont even know what that means

[fervent hinge]

What do you mean

[bitter marlin]

Fishing?

[wary magnet]

thats pretty gory tbh

[trail radish]

Legacy port hoken had covered up trafficked women, and you can still dismember alive suspects

[bold sky]

"aspects of tactics" is complicated in a game where you can speedrun any map in less than 3 minutes if you have good aim

[hard carbon]

yeah im sure there are some fishers in here

[slim fern]

some people in this server believed the entirety of the dismemberment system was completely removed

[trim kettle]

Covered dirty bodies with clean calvin klein underwear, lol.

[bold sky]

tactics in this game the majority of time ends up being associated with people who have bad aim

[bitter marlin]

Idk man I just got here

[bold sky]

good aim in this game and map knowledge to pick angles still win all the gunfights

[trail radish]

That part I feel like they should have done a bit more with lol, maybe dirtied up the clothes a bit

[wary magnet]

then what do they mean by gore

[fervent hinge]

Playing tactically is more fun tho

[bold sky]

that is also very subjected to personal opinion

[valid raven]

OK, so assume the door is open you swing around on your side and call out if its clear you take the opposite side so right side takes left right side takes left

[hard carbon]

I think they said they just toned down the blood and cuts on the tortured guy in narcos

[bitter marlin]

I think the vast majority of people who are worried are talking about the artistic vision being changed rather than post mortem dismemberment

[bold sky]

its fun when i was learning the map for the first 20 hours but after that its more fun to be able to solo the map on my own without relying on teammates

[valid raven]

The point is you know exactly what direction you’re headed in without saying anything

[bitter marlin]

They put him in fresh undies*

[valid raven]

Do you want to eliminate as many questions as possible with CQC

[wary magnet]

thats it? not explosions of body parts?

[trim kettle]

Watching the changes I really starting to think that VOID are just lazy.

[bold sky]

if this game wants to force people to do proper cqb then they need to buff the suspects

[valid raven]

So somebody says a single word about what tactic to use and everyone knows what to do

[fervent hinge]

I mean if you have a person whose willing
Then yeah
It all comes down to the other person brain cells as well

[trim kettle]

Like... c'mon!

[hard carbon]

that too, thats just not the focus of the conversation

[valid raven]

I mean a lot of CQC tactics are pretty intuitive

[slim fern]

those still happen, the only change to the system is that they cannot be further mutilated by the player after dying

[bold sky]

but then we have 1.0 all over again and people complain about bots; plus 1.0 end product is mostly people with godly aim and map knowledge instead of people playing the game with any sense of tactic

[valid raven]

It’s just a matter of knowing which one to use in what situation

[bitter marlin]

I think iirc, the blood is all the same he’s just in fresh undies

[fervent hinge]

That requires some before hand convo with them
But you can also just say
Watch my left
Watch my right

[trail radish]

They should have done the old model from legacy port, where it was a dirty cloth covering up those parts

[eager walrus]

If the AI functioned it would be a different story

[fervent hinge]

Watch my 6

[wary magnet]

i aint never tried that cuz i aint no psycho

[valid raven]

yes, but the idea is that you could just say hook and thats it and everyone knows what to do

The person on the handle side goes in first

[bold sky]

i mean 1.0 ai was good ngl

[hard carbon]

"For example, the tortured police informant on Narcos is still missing fingers, eyes, and covered in fresh wounds and blood, but a little bit less so" - the first announcement about censorship changes

[trim kettle]

I just waiting for july 15'th to see for myself.
If the changes are still that sloppy, I refunding the game.

[slim fern]

exactly, which is why I was wondering why some people were upset about that

[valid raven]

Because one side will have to go around the door

[bold sky]

1.0 ai punish people who dont walk really hard once they spot them and just start wallbanging

[fervent hinge]

You can definitely do that with yhe right people
And even if they don't know
They can learn
Over time

[wary magnet]

you just made my day alot better

[dim lion]

im suprised the naked tweaker dude is getting censored ngl i played the mission like 10 times and hadnt noticed his junk is out

[valid raven]

What I was trying to say it’s a good idea to have a large amount of tactics in your head so you have more tools in your toolbox

[wary magnet]

and in a ghillie wrap too

[valid raven]

You know what i mean

[wary magnet]

or whatever that was

[bold sky]

knowing what gun to bring on what map for this game is far more useful than coordinating any form of tactics with pugs or even friends

[fervent hinge]

Go and use a camera gun
Look up

[hard carbon]

Shotgun, shotgun, shotgun... shotgun?

[trail radish]

Ill prob just mod the game to add back the pre censorship stuff, since I have 1.1k hours and I definitely can’t refund the game or want to lol

[bold sky]

if you know how to shoot and you optimize your ttk you can just collapse from many side of the map

[fervent hinge]

Yeah I do

[wary magnet]

the american scar

[valid raven]

I played with somebody that kept just blowing doors down with a breaching shotgun and killing everyone in sight

[bold sky]

swat weapons in this game are broken compared to suspects' pathetic gun stat ngl

[bitter marlin]

Buffer tube SCAR🤢

[wary magnet]

bring freedom and liberty

[bold sky]

i mean breaching shotgun speedrun is actually meta

[fervent hinge]

Everyone plays differently
That's why I said the right people

[slim fern]

what playing with randoms does to a mf 💀

[valid raven]

Yeah, but they ruined the score

[bold sky]

if you know map you can setup some insane angle with breaching shotgun rn

[trim kettle]

Yeah, I'm in the same pickle here.
But I have no tolerance for slop.

[bold sky]

they only "ruin" it if they arent going for it you can get s with breaching shotgunt oo

[hard carbon]

yeah playing with randoms is something special

[fervent hinge]

Midnight
Have you seen that one video of swat people playing the game

[valid raven]

most people I play with actually care about getting a decent score

[slim fern]

I remember when breaching shotguns used to be able to break doors like 10 ft away from you

[trail radish]

I did the same thing when they fucked up the ai and made them stupidly hard for no reason, I just added an ai mod that made them like swat 4

[bold sky]

it depends on what score you are talking if s then its a different game mode

[valid raven]

It would be cool if they made like a mode where a player can control enemy AI

[bold sky]

i play run and gun and i get around a all the time

[fervent hinge]

Pvp?

[valid raven]

And outsmart SWAT

[valid raven]

Semi PVP

[hard carbon]

its called the shoothouse

[bold sky]

pls this game pvp was so horrendous people get ptsd from it

[fervent hinge]

Oh new outlast trials update heh

[trail radish]

PvP used to be in the game, was removed and probably won’t be added for a long while

[bold sky]

the people who suffer thru this game pvp anw

[valid raven]

Basically what I mean is sort of you know what an AI director is?

[valid raven]

Having that be a player

[hard carbon]

mhm

[hard carbon]

like an rts? that actually sounds like fun

[valid raven]

Not exactly

[trim kettle]

Problem is... would be possible to add new maps with uncensored models?
Or will these mods conflict with each other.

[valid raven]

More so because people are more unpredictable

Although a mechanic that I think would need to be forced is morale like if it hit zero they will surrender

[trim kettle]

You mean L4D2 AI director?

[trail radish]

Probably not conflict, I’ve used mods on the game for a long while and it’s usually fine

[valid raven]

Most games with AI like this have a director

[trim kettle]

Nah, there is no director here.

Just bots getting randomly sprinkled there and there.

[valid raven]

Has anyone ever noticed that suspects will sometimes act like they’re putting their gun down and then they immediately pull it back up and start shooting at you

[crude prism]

Each AI functions autonomously in RoN

Afaik the only thing they share is some maps have a "leader" tagged that will impact the morale of all suspects

There are some group coordination things too, but this is done at the duo/trio level

[trail radish]

Ai in this game have set values for the maps based on factions kinda

[hard carbon]

i think their saying that you would be controlling the AI similar to how an AI director would

[valid raven]

And I’ve also noticed that like with some guns if they’re wearing body armor, it takes more shots to take them out

If you hit the body armor

[hard carbon]

thats because the body armour is made of armour

[valid raven]

It will still kill them. They just takes more.

A student drill that I think helps is having a second person

basically you hold the gun at a low ready and the person coaching, you pick a random target and a random body part

As you aim and fire at it as fast as possible

I don’t know what that drill is called

[trim kettle]

Imagine a map with two factions fighting each other.

[valid raven]

But it’s something I thought of for milsim stuff

[crude prism]

the S rank in question:

[valid raven]

It speeds up reaction time and accuracy without having to pre-aim

You know what I mean when I say pre-aim right

[trail radish]

So kinda like dooms infighting, would be pretty cool

[valid raven]

Like aim at the spot you expect a threat to be

I’ve also tried to have the mindset. There is a potential threat around every corner and behind every closed door.

Anyone else find starways scary in cqc

I only know so much about it because i used to do milsim stuff

Its hard to find a unit where the leadership is not so arrogant

[feral river]

wait so you can play the campaign ironman mode full lethal but between every mission you go back and do gas station nonlethal and that calms down your whole team? that would take forever but the concept is hilarious

[crude prism]

In theory yeah, but it's possible that one mission goes badly enough that they quit, going from 100% to 0% in a single map

[feral river]

damn

ive tried ironman twice, and both times something went horribly wrong on the 2nd map

its clearly not going to happen,

i had a shield up and enemy took a hostage, when i shouted at him for compliance he instantly executed the hostage

[valid raven]

Can you view the map before the mission starts?

Just to get a general plan a good plan is like this is what we are going to do it’s more of a general idea not the exact thing you do

Because if the plan goes bad your fucked

It needs to flex and bend

[trim kettle]

You can view the map as soon as you load in.

[valid raven]

How do you know where you are on the map like landmarks?

And if you want to make a plan for something, you just tell your team and hold for a second cover me

to make sure that while you’re thinking about a plan suspects don’t come up and ambush you

The whole idea is when you actually execute clearing a room you need very little communication to understand exactly what is going on

Something quick like gun gun gun

Although it would probably be better to say like going forward, gun left gun right it doesn’t mean open fire necessarily

[crude prism]

You can open the map on the tablet after selecting a mission. (for example, this is The Spider's map)

Though these are not real time, and some levels have little/no map available

[valid raven]

like I’ve noticed the map on the meth lab the underground tunnel has no map information

And i think thats intentional

[dim lion]

bro how is my team losing morale when they decide to dome gerard immediately after opening the door and not waiting for their flash to go off

[bronze crescent]

on god

[dim lion]

i didnt even kill a person they all shot them instantly

[noble pasture]

Daniela Voll gave up without me pressing F once

Devs fix her, this is absurd

I play without perks and she still gives up too fast

Game is impossible to 100% now

ok finally got her, she kept hitting me once and then my hp went back up

[verbal mango]

I would assume posting clips in #🎬ron-clips-and-media requires a certain role?

[noble pasture]

I am so fucking mad at an achievement

Meldonin is fucking impossible

also in RoN universe homeless people got AR's

what the fuck is this shit?

[ionic gale]

@crude prism

[fallow plover]

🦅🦅🦅

[ionic gale]

Hey does the game have a “intimidation” feature were criminals and suspects can be scared of your weapon?

[verbal mango]

I think so, but it's multiple factors and not just your weapon.

[noble pasture]

I mean what the fuck

I am dying on Dorms S rank more than on Greased Palms

people who barelly afford to eat got fully automatic AR's

[dense wind]

Ordered a new gpu. Gonna s rank voll once I get it lmao

[shell bridge]

which gpu

[dense wind]

rx 6600 🥺👉👈

[shell bridge]

which was the previous one

[ionic gale]

How often do yall point aim?

[dense wind]

1050ti 💔

[noble pasture]

also bots shit on your "go to exit" order

[ionic gale]

I do it especially when slicing the pie

[noble pasture]

they yell at first civie they see despite being in same room as you telling the civie to go out

[shell bridge]

well its difficult for me since I can't gauge 1. Where the center of the screen is and 2. Where the actual gun/bullet vector is pointing in relation to the center of the screen

So I use point shoot as a suppressing fire method, not primary mode of firing.

[prime spear]

Theory: we play as Judge.

[shell bridge]

Wrong, next

[ionic gale]

Wait so I will take more damage from steel plates technically because of the sprawling

[verbal mango]

When navigating tight corridors like in Rust Belt

[prime spear]

Theory: We play as the robber in Thank you, come again.

[shell bridge]

what?

[shell bridge]

more than 2x the performance, on average. Have a good time with the rx6600 mate

[ionic gale]

Description of the steel plates says that they have sprawling

[prime spear]

The people doing the "fuk void" reactions may still be mad about the censorship.

[ionic gale]

Steel fragments of the armor can hurt you a little bit more because it’s going inside of you??

[shell bridge]

Idk if that even works or not, maybe an experienced player can tell

[vernal shadow]

Is there going to be any new non-dlc missions? Game seems really short

[ionic gale]

We have a guy for this

[prime spear]

Idk.

[verbal mango]

I think it's the bullets that spall not the plate

[shell bridge]

Yeah the smiley face man

[ionic gale]

There is two free maps coming in the console

[prime spear]

That only cost the game.

[verbal mango]

Ricochets often when getting shot in Steel, could injure teammates close to you

[ionic gale]

It’s coming free for PC as well

[vernal shadow]

Any updates after that?

[prime spear]

👅

[ionic gale]

We probably will be getting some free maps here and there, but I think they’re gonna mostly stick to DLC

I personally wait for a sale for DLC, they can be dirt cheap usually

[vernal shadow]

I hope so

[prime spear]

What we saying, chat:
DLC guns
Or
Mod guns

[ionic gale]

Except for the new weapons for console… almost everything in the update is going to be free for all platforms

[shell bridge]

Mod Guns for now, but DLC Guns have more freedom on the level of cool, cause new stuff

[ionic gale]

Mod weapons have a lot more options

[prime spear]

PPSH👅

[ionic gale]

I do like me some DLC guns doe

[shell bridge]

Its added as an assault rifle tho 😭

[prime spear]

𝑆𝑠𝑠ℎℎℎℎℎ~

Atleast we got Ballistic, top 5 mod creators.

[ionic gale]

what primary and secondary guns do yall go for

[prime spear]

Depends on my outfit.

[ionic gale]

I main the MK18 as a rifle… Any MP5 as my SMG, any of the Italian shotguns… uh

A M11 compact as my sidearm usually

[prime spear]

I do a Mk18 (modded)
Or the Benelli m4.
Side-arm uhh, Glock 17 (mod)

Yall think we gonna have a mission about the Kit Kat Klan?

[jaunty pebble]

The only things in censorship I care about is the container being censored
And the mutilation.
The rest is such a none issue I dont get why this is a topic of so many cry rants

[random obsidian]

the mutalation of corpses are the least worrysome change,why would law enforcment shoot a dead body?

[jaunty pebble]

Its a video game thats probably why.
And officer DO shoot dead bodies
Sure not 10 minutes after theyre dead but officer without a doubt shoot people after theyre dead during heated encounters

[shell bridge]

Which Mk18 mod? Enforcer?

[stone bay]

i already arrested all civillians but i havent checked off bring order to the chaos even though there's seemingly no one left to arrest/kill and i feel like ive scoured the entire map in carriers of the vine

ive legit been wandering for like 10 minutes probably and found no one

[shell bridge]

And sometimes, they accidentally get shot when the body is in the line of fire of a shootout.

[random obsidian]

yes they do that in brazil etc but not with a shotgun!

[prime spear]

Idk, I forgot.

[prime spear]

^

[serene hornet]

The problem is the game may be just a game but it prides itself on being a grounded realistic take on police work and tries to put you in real world like situations… so that puts the game under heavy scrutiny…. If you changed even its genre like I dno you were cyberpunk swat you’d circumvent it

[tawdry laurel]

Still not realistic though lol and you’re still able to shoot bodies after they’re dead and they’ll still react and you’ll still see blood you just can’t dismember them

[shell bridge]

I downloaded the mk18 enforcer as an addon and still replaces the vanilla mk18, kinda tuff

[noble pasture]

I gave up on my modless save

[prime spear]

Huh.

[stone bay]

lmfao this is like the 8th useless recording ive made but this time it's not just cause i suck at the game

but can someone help please lol

i was just trying to showcase a mod

[serene hornet]

Also fot a game about getting the best rank for a mission I would of thought post death mutilation would of been negatively scored lol so I’m surprised it’s a thing anyway lol

[shell bridge]

what?

[stone bay]

im in carriers of the vine but

i already rescued all civillians and theres seemingly no one left to get but no order to chaos achieved

and the other times i just kept dying is what i meant

idk if there's something i walked past like 30 times but i dont think so

i looked through the map thoroughly (or as much as i think) at least twice

[shell bridge]

have you checked the wine cellars

what you can do is select gold team, and tell them to "Search and Secure"

they will run around the map clearing rooms that haven't been cleared

[stone bay]

yeah
and the teammates are useless and dumb and search and secure aint working this time lol

they kept only following me

[noble pasture]

Search and Secure is damn near worthless

[stone bay]

👆

sometimes it works as intended if you get lucky lol

[noble pasture]

They never search and secure unless all evidence is neatly piled 3 meters away

[stone bay]

we already gathered all evidence im pretty sure