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[amber dock]

Can yall use stickers from other servers? Like in here?

If not then its a server setting likleu

[trail radish]

I cant personally no

[amber dock]

Ah then probs a precaution

[amber dock]

Judge after dlc number 10

Still growing strong with his age

[trail radish]

I want my act man its over sticker mr funny mod man

[stable kernel]

It would seem this chat has external stickers blocked for officers

[trail radish]

Damn, rip

Actually wait nah its just channel specific, I can do it in general discussion

[stable kernel]

I shall overturn it

If I get smited Kam did it probably

Should work now

[feral sundial]

Why Kam specifically 😭

[amber dock]

He basically in charge of this server and its rules and channles and settings etc

[stable kernel]

A lot of things are still legacy from years ago

[trail radish]

It lets me do it now

[feral sundial]

Ohh

[feral sundial]

Mr Eman bouta get publicly executed by Kam because he touched a channel 😭😭

[stable kernel]

I had to go in and fix perms for officers recently you know

Nothing exploded

Yet

[trail radish]

Im assuming removing a few privileges (or adding them, idk)

[stable kernel]

Leftover remnants and inconsistencies as I mentioned

Some channels are very old

[feral sundial]

Exactly. Yet

[stable kernel]

We need a clean slate for permissions at some point

[trail radish]

I wish I joined the server the second I got the game, I could have had the Sargent role, biggest flop of the century on my part

[amber dock]

Good ill take away your mod role

[stable kernel]

No perms, silly turtle

Literally a built in discord feature that lower roles can't mess with higher roles

And the bots don't touch mods

[feral sundial]

OOOOOOOO HE GOT YOU VRO....

Don't hurt me

[trail radish]

prepare to get banned my good sir

[dawn shore]

can someone explain this to me as im having trouble finding any information on it. Why does Void have to censor nudity, and dismemberment after death when major console titles have it included? i.e. RDR2, Cyberpunk 2077. Whats different? Not trying to get people riled up im just trying to understand why.

[stable kernel]

Review the most recent pinned message

[amber dock]

Dont call me thay you meanie

Ive never called you anything mean

[trail radish]

I gotta find some people to play the early access ready or not with man, I love my janky UE4 silly tac shooter

[amber dock]

[timber fjord]

somehow there were 2 suspects i hadnt found but i checked the whole map 5 times

28 mins for nothing

[trail radish]

lemme guess, twisted nerve?

[timber fjord]

YES

i made my npcs check the whole place 3 times until they stopped moving when i told them to search and secure

and then i checked every little closet possible

[trail radish]

That map man, I had to sit there for 2 HOURS looking for one dude (this was before search and secure was a thing, so I was SOL)

[timber fjord]

DAMN. where'd you find him?

[trail radish]

In a closet, I forgot to check one specific closet

[timber fjord]

I CHECKED ALL OF THEM HOW WERE THERE 2 MISSING SG AWSDGWSDgrsdgW

DO THEY JUST FIT IN A CARDBOARD BOX

im gonna crash out

[trail radish]

Sometimes might be under beds, or in the cave, those meth heads love the cave

[timber fjord]

i checked the cave 2 times, how do i check under beds?

[trail radish]

Free lean, and fully look under, you can kinda see them peering out of there, or just yell at a bed, if your character yells "come out" then theres a dude hiding in one

[timber fjord]

Here i go yelling at beds like a fucking crackhead💔💔

[trail radish]

Biggest places they love hiding, closets, cave, attic, and outside

[timber fjord]

im gonna check even under the doormat

btw free look is alt+w/a/s/d?

[fiery topaz]

You have become what you were fighting

[amber dock]

By default yes

[timber fjord]

fr

[trail radish]

To find a meth head you gotta hone the tactics of one

[fiery topaz]

“To defeat them, you must become one”

[meager fossil]

why is there a person spazming in an alley in the buy buy twice mission??

[amber dock]

Maybe shot civ?

[trail radish]

If its a cop they were shot, if its a civ they were shot/OD'ing

[amber dock]

Thats why we can report it and we say we need medical or something

[meager fossil]

she looks like an security guard

i cant even report it

[amber dock]

Probs got shot trying to defend herself or something

But just a prop there to add telling to the ma0

Map

[meager fossil]

shes very far away from all the enemies lmao

[amber dock]

Maybe just caught in crossfire or something

[timber fjord]

YESSSS, S RANK IN 14:44.02 LETS GOOO

SCREW YOU METHHEAD HIDING UNDER THE DOORMAT

[twin musk]

The whiners are screaming at the clouds again

Look in the subreddt lmao

[vernal cosmos]

is it possible to acquire the original file to the f around find out sticker?

[stable kernel]

Look up online how to rip discord stickers

[amber dock]

rip

[vernal cosmos]

thx

[shy tulip]

Not an easy process tbf

I think you have to use Discords web version

[amber dock]

Ewwww

[stable kernel]

Yes

Inspect element the right bit and yoink the image adress

Quite a pain

[shy tulip]

I stil struggle with inspect element tbh

May as well be wizard crafts

[vast folio]

People who whine about whining are the worst. Especially when they feel the need to post le meme images in the subreddit to defeat the evil strawmen 😦

At least have an original thought.

That said, has there been updates to the AI after the last DLC hit? Trying to clear Greased Palms felt a bit rough with both friendly and suspect AI being all over the place.

[amber dock]

Not really

Ai the same as it always been

Could be placebo

[vast folio]

Roger.

I was doing less-lethal run with shotties, that level is especially rough with AI units having incredible line of sight. Which doesn't help much when your AI teammates haven non-penetrating ammo and they start ignoring orders due to seeing someone 😅

[shy tulip]

(There haven't been any updates [maybe a patch or two] since last DLC)

[amber dock]

Deffo likley placebi

Especially if yiu have been gone for a long time

Gotta fine tune the muscle memories

[short crow]

Does the game have alot of bugs

[prisma tusk]

It's not not buggy

[vast folio]

Haha, oh no, I found a videosI posted about the attempt 😄 #🎨ron-screenshots-and-art message

What the hell even happened there, haha

[shy tulip]

Certainly has bugs

even the worst of them all, roaches

[short crow]

Still playable tho?

[buoyant pecan]

GET DOWN

[shy tulip]

Yeah it is thankfully, you can view #❗known-issues-and-fixes for the worst/most common ones

[buoyant pecan]

PUT YOUR FUCKIN HANDS UP
DOWN ON YOUR GOD DAMN KNEES NOW

[stone bay]

I have encountered just some minor glitches in my years of playing. The game's great on that end.

[buoyant pecan]

(Me every second when I can’t find the last civilian or suspect in a big map)

[vast folio]

#🎨ron-screenshots-and-art message

Yeah, the AI felt a bit rough at times 😄 😄 #🎨ron-screenshots-and-art message

I remember wishing I had the option to bring the suspect to ground or something.

[buoyant pecan]

Lmao earlier today on Leviathan I had a suspect drop to his knees, then he quickly picked his shotgun back up, so I shot him
But the game acted like it was just a minor inconvenience so he quickly dropped the shotgun
Then the game wouldn’t let me or any of the AI arrest him for some reason so they were all in a circle screaming at him
Then I executed him with a headshot and got no penalty and everything worked fine afterwards lmao

[vast folio]

Yo, I had a suspect trying to summon a demon or something! #🎨ron-screenshots-and-art message

Speaking in tongues and stuff, lol.

[buoyant pecan]

Bro tweaking

[twin musk]

Isaac Morgan has to be one of the best lore youtubers of this game

[buoyant pecan]

Yuh him and Shayne

[twin musk]

wendigoon too

[desert island]

wendigoon calling the AI art amazing was hilarious

[buoyant pecan]

Why do the bot squad in the game never throw the flash bang near any of the suspects
“Enter the room, bang and clear”
Then bro throws the flash bang like 7ft away

[buoyant pecan]

Lmao I remember that he was like “the art in Carriers of the Vine looks so cool” and I was just thinking “oh sweetie no…”

Loved his video tho

[desert island]

his choice of red dots were cringe

[proven meteor]

Why are they censoring the game ? Do they don't have the choice

[twin musk]

ai art does look cool sometimes tho, minus it not being made by real people

not defending him for saying that, bc it also was odd to me, but its just an opinion i have

[shy tulip]

depends on the bot, I'm really tired of the really common ones/lazy prompts

[twin musk]

hey people are allowed to have different choices ok

[desert island]

yeah but it was cringe

[empty oyster]

They had a choice. No censor and no console or censor and release on console. They want more money so they are taking the censor

[proven meteor]

Oh yeah makes sensd

thanks for the reply

[empty oyster]

Np

[desert island]

also he cheated to get the watch and his reasoning was yeah i wuldve gotten it if it werent for the 6th mission out of 18

[buoyant pecan]

Damn
My squad killed me immediately after I executed Amos Voll

[desert island]

yeah squad kills u if u shoot anyone who surrenders

and if u try to kill squad members they become invincible and 1 shot kill u

[trail radish]

This is why you wait for him to put his gun up, and then kill him shrimple as that

[desert island]

dats y u just kill him on sight

[trail radish]

Oh no you can kill your squad mates, they just have a huge health pool

[buoyant pecan]

I was in the basement in the daughter shrine room
I was gonna just complete the mission like normal and I was having a great run too lol
But it’s Amos, and he said “I couldn’t give less of a fuck about those kids”
So I was like “eh, I already S-ranked. Why not”

[desert island]

u can only kill 1

then they have infinite hp and have infinite damage

[twin musk]

imo, admitting to cheating for an item that doesnt affect anyone in a public game doesnt really make me angry as it does make me laugh

bc ive had moments where i couldve cheated for the watch due to a buggy run, but i didnt

[buoyant pecan]

If only real cops killed other cops who killed people who are surrendering (not people like Amos tho)

[trail radish]

Really? maybe they changed that recently, since I remember being able to kill all swat members

[desert island]

yeah in the past u culd just wedge a door and gas them all to death

[buoyant pecan]

The “kill me” command is crazy

[trail radish]

"I messed up, put me out of my misery"

[twin musk]

kill a civ and all the swat has infinite health and ammo

also they can one shot you with a pistol iirc

[desert island]

yeah infinite damage

[buoyant pecan]

It’s crazy how Judge just says that and they all immediately go through with it lol

[desert island]

i dont think theres a voiceline for it

[trail radish]

Only time ive killed a swat member in the game recently was accidentally because they were right where a terrorist was on neon tomb, and it was on sight because I thought he was one of them 💀

[buoyant pecan]

There is. It’s pretty quick he just says “kill me.”

[trail radish]

Theres a few voicelines judge can say for the kill me command

[desert island]

i also tried stacking them on a door and killing them with c4 but it does zero damage to them

[twin musk]

ai is nuts with 2 veterans on the team

terminator accuracy fr

[buoyant pecan]

Any tips for 3 Letter Triad

[desert island]

use alternative entrance

[twin musk]

mirror gun

very useful for checking doors

[desert island]

theres the bar thats pretty dark

[buoyant pecan]

I always have a teammate equipped but I should prolly equip it myself

[desert island]

and it always has like 5-7 dudes in it

[trail radish]

For traps just double tap the door with a breaching shotgun while away from it

[twin musk]

better to have it equipped as you dont really get much intel when a teammate uses it

[desert island]

i dont think theres trapped doors on triad

[twin musk]

they usually say "one suspect at the door" but he could be around the corner or smn

[trail radish]

If hes talking about the hotel, there are flashbang traps

[twin musk]

mirrorgun is amazing for checking for traps

[desert island]

mirrorgun is overpowered

its sci fi magic

[trail radish]

Specifically on the vet mission, I only run the breaching shotgun, suprisingly a very quick way to get rid of an explosive while not dying

[twin musk]

im finding it hard to not use it but then irl SWAT members use mirrorguns to check corners

[desert island]

well u just cant use mirrorguns on doors in real life

[twin musk]

its like a long hose instead of a stick

with a camera at the end

[desert island]

yeah the swat 4 mirrorgun is a hose

[trail radish]

Also kills any suspect near the door

[desert island]

grenade trpas have like a 80% chance of doing absolutely nothing to suspects

[trail radish]

that 20 percent though is what keeps me doing it

[twin musk]

gunfighter mod gives you the 9-Bang flashbang

very useful for a lot of suspects in one room

[desert island]

gunfighter mod is like

cheats

[twin musk]

cant give it to teammates tho

[desert island]

more than double slots for heavy armor

[twin musk]

not really as it overhauls the bullet wound mechanic
if you get shot, you get shot

so your aim is worse, or you cant run anymore

[buoyant pecan]

Yeah I’ve had them say “it’s clear” and then there’s two guys with guns pointed right at us when we open the door seconds later

[desert island]

yeah the ai doesnt account for enemies just walkin out of frame

when they mirror

[desert island]

yeah but when i can carry 10 9 bangs then no one can hit me

[twin musk]

i do agree the more slots is a little too much

thats why i use discipline and just bring 5 mags and 5 deployables

[desert island]

tbh theres not enuff slots for the utility like

[twin musk]

yea true

[desert island]

pepperspray, taser, wedge r not worth ever bringing

crazy how wendigoon was still using a taser

[crude prism]

killin u for this post playa

wedge and taser are required for gamin

[stuck heath]

As our wise Donut Operator has said, "If the taser doesn't work, the taser doesn't work"

[desert island]

me going for the maximum point penalty run and bringing extra taser rounds to get more unauthorized uses of force

u can only get unauthorized use of non lethal once per person

[stuck heath]

I thought you could get more with the beanbag shotgun

[desert island]

u can hurt someone alot but u only get 1 count of it

[stuck heath]

That's lame

[twin musk]

taser is actually pretty good

[desert island]

i did a run on port hokan where i shot everyone in the body to get unauthorized use of non lethal, then tried beating them up after and it didnt pop up

[buoyant pecan]

John Ready vs Postal Dude

[buoyant pecan]

My dumb ass has had a taser in their loadout for a long time

But I rarely ever be using it lmao

[stuck heath]

I usually carry one for the named suspects that you're supposed to arrest

[austere rain]

for the objectives that are like "arrest (insert number) suspects" i wish void would make it so that incapicitating them counts as arresting, since they will still be alive when taken in, having to manually make them surrender is so tedious

[shy tulip]

They count for VIPs but not normal suspects

[austere rain]

yup, makes missions like 3 letter much harder because you have to arrest 5

[vernal bane]

Just flashbang

[crude prism]

if you fail to arrest 5 out of 24 dudes you gotta change something up 💀

[stuck heath]

I was able to arrest Briggs on Spider by downing him with a knee shot. Kneecapping might work but you have to move quick before they bleed out

[desert island]

incapitating them means they go to the hospital and cant be questions

[stuck heath]

When in doubt, 320 flash to their chest works wonders at making them surrender

[twin musk]

nah just magdump beanbags lol

[stuck heath]

Why not both? If one doesn't work, try the other

[coarse yarrow]

would it be possible to install mods in the console version

[twin musk]

mod.io i think
in the start menu

[twin musk]

oh

[coarse yarrow]

alright thanks

[twin musk]

well thats kinda balls

[stuck heath]

Sony tends to not be mod friendly unless its using existing in-game assets, which is all Skyrim and Fallout 4 players can get, unless something has changed lately.
If someone can correct me, please do. I'd like to avoid misinforming people

[crude prism]

Misinformation just comes with being a RoN player, it's par for the course

[stuck heath]

It comes with being human. Personally, I'd rather give out correct and proven information than hearsay

[stable kernel]

As per Kaminsky (paraphrasing from memory): one of the bigger reasons is that this game cannot natively load mods on consoles due to something with UE5

That and Sony may be a stickler on it

[twin musk]

Sony outright refuses people to mod their games on the console, same as nintendo

[placid pasture]

no

[stuck heath]

I tried modding my game a while back using Nexus and that required manually replacing .pak files, so I can see that being a pain on console without a dedicated system or program to do it

[twin musk]

Its so stupid, if you try and do it, youre most likely to get it bricked or you get IP banned

[placid pasture]

Incapacitation means the victim is not deceased but injured to an extent of where they need medical attention

[twin musk]

you mean Incapacitated?

[placid pasture]

Award goes to auto correct

[twin musk]

[placid pasture]

Peak

[desert island]

incapped

basically try to tap them once in chest dealing 160 dmg to incap them

then tap them in head to get unauthorized use of force and unauthorized use of lethal force

[placid pasture]

"Tap"

Is their head

[desert island]

pew

[twin musk]

[dim quest]

I'm not sure if this has been discussed in this server yet but I don't get why the game has been review bombed just for being censored? I get it might affect how some scenarios come across and how close to real life they may be, but it really isn't a big deal? I just wanna hear what people really think because the reviews are vague on why this is a bad thing.

[stable kernel]

Read the most recent pinned message for accurate and complete information

[dim raptor]

^^^

[dim quest]

Right sorry, didn't see that.

[buoyant pecan]

Just beat 3 Letter Triad so I have now played every RoN level
I gotta say I think it’s a 3LT is a bit overhated
I didn’t have nearly as much of a bad time as I did on Relapse or the post office

[desert island]

i dont think anyone hates it

but my problem with 3LT is hunting the final suspects

[upbeat obsidian]

Hey y'all, doubt any of the void team will see this but just wanted to say that y'all are doing great work and I understand that the changes that are being done had to be done to avoid a AO rating are needed and i respect it. Keep up the great dev work and such! :)

[buoyant pecan]

Yea I was so confused and ended up backtracking into places I was already at
Same with the oil rig

I shoulda dropped more chem lights lol

[desert island]

they culd make the chemlights better instead of giving them animations

but also chemlights dont help when u already know u already went somewhere

[ionic gale]

Hi

[desert island]

i think why 3LT is good is that gunfighting is the emphasized mechanic over patience
most maps u just slowly creep around, stun enemies and pick them off
but the beach has lots of enemies, they rush, retreat, group up and theres lots of mixed cover to weaken nades and mirroring

also just 1 civilian and no traps lets u go rambo

[cedar mulch]

Pirates account for more than half of the total, PMC remain relatively scarce.

Black Sentinel is somewhat disappointing in that their equipment is inferior to Leviathan's UPF.

[desert island]

leviathan is like wat

silenced p90s

[cedar mulch]

The second level of both DLCs has the strongest equipment in the three maps. I wonder if there is a specific pattern to this.

[torn terrace]

Tbh it's not even being censored it's being edited censored would be not seeable and such this is just a small adjustment

[stuck heath]

Alterations are being made to the game to comply with various rating systems before console launch. Regional ratings can get weirdly specific and VOID doesn't have the personnel to maintain multiple regional versions of the game. The presence of files can determine a game's rating, even if toggleable or inactive.

[chilly thorn]

The second levels of each DLCS are also the best map in said dlcs

[shy tulip]

Stay civil

[austere rain]

chat looks civil to me, was way worse

[deft star]

better remind them than never

[eternal crow]

Bro it’s RoN irl over in Philadelphia right now, the garbage men are on strike and trash is just piling up on the streets

[shy tulip]

(The person I was talking to knows who they are)

[stable kernel]

1984 man

Discordia streets are out of control

[stuck heath]

Now I feel like I did something wrong

[covert aurora]

"yo man! the Discordian police are roaming, i'm out dawg"

[desert island]

teal names

[covert aurora]

😮

hai Phleet

[vagrant yoke]

Do npcs notice lasers and flashlights?

[dim raptor]

kinda sad i always wanted to get the supporter edi of the game for the shotgun and the hrt skins and now i can never get it lowkey kinda sad

[crude prism]

they can technically see flashlights, though the detection doesn't work all the time

they cannot see lasers

[stuck heath]

I thought they could see the visible red lasers, but not the IR ones. I could be wrong

[minor depot]

all suspects are on constant guard anyways, they aren't programmed to do anything else besides standing or walking from point to point

[austere rain]

they do

[crude prism]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-gif-11995869715635442235

[austere rain]

its been proving when shining a laser into a room with a suspect they go from patrolling to their agro stance

same applies to flashlights

[crude prism]

bro i am the prover and disprover of all ron facts (real), just take whatever I say as like 99.99% of 100% objective fact

[austere rain]

well excuse me oh sacred one

[covert aurora]

https://tenor.com/view/lie-detector-lier-trending-gif-6708574292361340617

[covert aurora]

:)

[crude prism]

(that's not actually 100% a joke btw, you can check the pins in here, also I am literally writing up the new wiki rn)

[stable kernel]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/452425840274309120/1389331582359437363/censor.gif

[crude prism]

https://tenor.com/view/krill-issue-skill-issue-krill-issue-gif-25572478

[stable kernel]

No u

[spiral coral]

ready or nut

[austere rain]

maintain civility

[crude prism]

TOC TO ENTRY TEAM. REMEMBER YOUR R.O.E.

[cedar mulch]

VOID should add armed civilians to their game.

[ionic gale]

That kind of was planned with the armed Debanco guards

The concept art of Debanco’s guards back before 1.0 had them had them planned to have the ability to use non lethal options, like tasers or pepper spray

This never came to fruition, and I think that the Debanco guards eventually got really retconnned to be a civilian that has a small chance to spawn in 4U Gas Station

[versed dune]

Balls

[cedar mulch]

Community college security guards clearly need weapons to become armed civilians.

[desert island]

nah everyone is disarmed in los suenos

only criminals have weapons

[ionic gale]

yerp

[stable kernel]

Well fun fact for you; suspect ai can use tasers and they do work

[cedar mulch]

This will prove that guns are more prevalent, and it is impossible for armed civilians to be absent.

[stable kernel]

Not sure about pepper spray

[austere rain]

we forgetting about the dead vet in the first mission?

[crude prism]

this would be the worst most fucking cancer gameplay ever

the taser stun lasts foreeeeeeeeeeeeeeeever

[austere rain]

also this is california we're talking about, i dont even think concealed carry is allowed in LA

[stable kernel]

Well and they blow through ammo instantly

And you know, programming it

[wet owl]

Okay so like. How the fuck do you die to a Civ in game?

[crude prism]

I'm pretty sure the taser doesn't actually have a ROF attached to it, it's literally an empty value. So it technically fires at infinite RPM

[austere rain]

lets not get political

[cedar mulch]

I believe that in RON's situation, civilians will inevitably carry guns for self-defense.

[austere rain]

valid

[stable kernel]

No politics folks

[austere rain]

but i imagine it would be hard to program

also think of the odds, one person with a handgun vs multiple armored shooters with AK's and other high caliber weapons

it would be suicidal to engage, not to mention when swat arrives they might mistake you as suspect and shoot

[cedar mulch]

But this is reasonable at gas stations.

[austere rain]

its till 4 or 5 guys with guns

even trained shooters cant beat that

[ionic gale]

I have cool pixel art of a MK18 & MCX

[austere rain]

hence why the vet and his dog were shot

[ionic gale]

My fav rifles in da game

[covert aurora]

https://tenor.com/view/lurk-peek-sneak-george-clooney-gif-17585314

[mint steeple]

could of just been one of them at the time and they werent aware of the other robbers

[covert aurora]

what's happening here?

[austere rain]

can you read?

[ionic gale]

I have super sigma rifles in #🎨ron-screenshots-and-art

[covert aurora]

https://tenor.com/view/resty-try-learning-to-read-gif-26338036

[ionic gale]

I think the MK18 is best

[stable kernel]

The vet’s Glock stovepiped btw

[austere rain]

rifle? nah that goes to either g36 or ga51

[stable kernel]

You can see it in game too

[ionic gale]

I mean my art

[covert aurora]

i actually agree with this.

[ionic gale]

I do like those guns

[lapis remnant]

Just pre ordered it

[ionic gale]

I liek myself a MK18… simple but beautiful

[covert aurora]

agreed

[austere rain]

all 5.56 rifles feel nearly identical

[covert aurora]

i am fan of the mcx aswell

[lapis remnant]

(:

[covert aurora]

your not wrong

[ionic gale]

It just depends on what flavor of AR 15 you like

[covert aurora]

welcome!

i kinda wise we had more...... 20" barrels in game

[lapis remnant]

Thanks

I better not be disappointed for 67 dollars…

[stable kernel]

Mcx best in this game, anyone who disputes gets… nothing

[ionic gale]

The MK18 is based on the Mod 0 version

It was requested by the US Navy

Bc SEALs wanted a much more smaller M4

[ionic gale]

I arm my team with the MCX usually

[covert aurora]

https://tenor.com/view/durax-plate-spin-illusion-rotate-gif-17234384

[ionic gale]

We also use the M11 Compact so

We are SIG Sauer fans

[covert aurora]

M11 is good

i switch between that and the 509

[ionic gale]

It’s a P229 Legion

[covert aurora]

i did make note of that

[ionic gale]

The P220 line up is the only pistol line up I like of SIG

The P320 is just… complicated

[desert island]

its not suicidal its just another tuesday

[ionic gale]

I actually heard that the P320 was actually birthed from a failed attempt of putting a striker fired design into a P250

Speaks volumes

[covert aurora]

personally i like the p320

[desert island]

civilians arent allowed to have weapons in los suenos

[covert aurora]

that's just me

[austere rain]

p320 ready or not when? it rivals glock in law enforcement use

[covert aurora]

agreed!

[ionic gale]

I like using it in games, but I don’t know if I trust the weapon IRL

I also find it funny SIG completely fucked up and double downed on the fact that there was absolutely nothing wrong with the gun

[desert island]

didnt p320 get sig sued

[austere rain]

it could have a unique mechanic where whenever you holster it, there is 5% chance of it misfiring and instantly killing you

[ionic gale]

Many times

Kind of already is in the game via the Flux Raider

It’s probably the only product that saves the P320

[covert aurora]

hate the raider

[austere rain]

but sidearm better

[desert island]

all i kno is doing port with pistol only and no armor

[covert aurora]

GL

[ionic gale]

The gun itself looks cooler

Loved using it in modern warfare 2019

[desert island]

i think the hardest map to do pistols only in base game is post office

[ionic gale]

M19’s akimbo was nasty

[austere rain]

i dont know why staccatto 2011 hasnt been hadded since thats the sidearm issued to irl LAPD SWAT d platoon

[desert island]

port is doable because no one wears armor
hospital is okay cuz u can actually 1 tap everyone in the head in close quarters

[ionic gale]

LAPD SWAT gets a lot of fun funding so they get new toys, including HK 416s

Extremely bougie dudes

[austere rain]

i would join swat if i got a staccatto

[ionic gale]

The sight lines are just unbearable

[desert island]

y r swat allowed to buy non american guns thats treason

[austere rain]

because german manufacturing is better than american

[ionic gale]

Yep

HK guns are expensive as hell but damn they work

[desert island]

unlike the SWAT

[austere rain]

oh yeah america has the best SWAT in the world, HRT solos

[ionic gale]

Do we just all collectively hate greased palms?

I don’t like playing that map either

[ionic gale]

For some maps I do dress up my men as FISA HRT

[austere rain]

its easy lol, bring a shotgun since no suspect wears armor and it will be easy

[desert island]

until they fix how enemies can see u with minimal detection

[austere rain]

i went through hell on hokan so i could unlock the HRT vest lol

[desert island]

ok fed

[ionic gale]

it’s cool

I wish more gear of them

[austere rain]

thats why we have modding

idk ready or not has so much things that seem like should be in but arent

[desert island]

i remember when HRT shot the hostage

[austere rain]

also this is the calmest i have seen this channel

[timid galleon]

so are they going to go through with censorship on PC?

[austere rain]

damn i jinxed it

[timid galleon]

I was just on steam discussions and seems like there is quite a consensus within the PC community that VOID should not censor the game lol

[ionic gale]

I forgot the name of that certain vest but it’s that super lightweight one that has a pouch on the side

If I dress up as a shotgun user or if I have a teammate that I want to be a shotgun user then I’m going to give him that vest because it’s slick

The patch on its side, makes it look like that it can hold shock and shells so I do it for that reason too

[timid galleon]

I'm trying to get two friends to buy right now

They just see 'Mostly Negative' on Steam and it's all questions

[desert island]

actually have the HRT have any notable W

[timid galleon]

I think the changes are pretty minor but the community seems really up in arms about it so thought VOID maybe entertaining the idea of reversing the changes to PC

[ionic gale]

Irl? I don’t know if we can discuss that.

[austere rain]

yeah i wish ready or not did what ground branch has where your carrier has the ammo specific to your gun

[desert island]

they were the ones at waco and ruby ridge right

[ionic gale]

Best customization would actually be something that would be interesting but ultimately before people like me who just want to RP and have fun customizing our carrier

[ionic gale]

Yeah, those are the most notable fuck ups

They of course, have done some Ws but they have a rocky history for sure

[timid galleon]

my bad thought this was #👮ron-discussion

[austere rain]

it is

[desert island]

best customization is being able to actually pick where stuff goes instead of presets

[foggy plinth]

swat4 they do not pick up a gun when being actively looked at

[timid galleon]

they should add a ruby ridge and waco levels to the game lol

[austere rain]

yup

[desert island]

like i just wana be the most vibrant and visible possible so my friend stops shooting me

[austere rain]

wasnt the scenery of ruby ridge used LO

[timid galleon]

that one mission with the anti-government crazies in the house in the woods with all the traps is probably what the FBI agents had in mind when they went to ruby ridge

[austere rain]

tell ur friend to activate player names

[austere rain]

all over a sawed off shotgun

[crude prism]

They are not reconsidering the censorship or console launch, at least not for now.

It is already done, the game is approved for console and releases in under two weeks.

Whatever backlash is occurring on the forums is just a small portion of the community.

It's realistic that Void could get millions more console players while pissing of a few thousand PC ones. 🤷

[austere rain]

id rather not talk anymore about this its like beating adead horse at this point ive heard the same arguments over and over again

[desert island]

ima go play ron wit fren cya guys

[bold sky]

so when are they gonna make scar h recoil make sense

buff smg recoil too why does half of the smg cast have more recoil than rifles

[austere rain]

gunfighter

[stable kernel]

[austere rain]

this is not true

[crude prism]

I thought we didn't like having modders fix Void's stuff.

[timid galleon]

I figure PC will get mods to fix it all back to the way it was?

[stable kernel]

Be civil

[timid galleon]

It should be trivial, right?

have the changes to PC version already been made or do I have two week window to enjoy the uncensored version?

[austere rain]

changes go into affect july 15th console release date

[timid galleon]

ah good so I can tell my two friends BUY IT NOW BEFORE IT'S CENSORED

[bold sky]

gunfighter doesnt magically fix gun recoil lol

[timid galleon]

lol

[bold sky]

also you cant tell me people get to crusade about child smut in the game and i cant get to crusade about fixing guns recoil

[austere rain]

the gameplay and atmosphere will more or less be exactly the same

[crude prism]

Void has clarified that they will not stand in the way of any mods that revert the changes.

So PC will be relatively unharmed after a mod gets made for the new patch

[timid galleon]

Kotaku etiquette? Sorry, I'm straight

[bold sky]

arguably my priority is better than all these diddies in the discord begging for child smut to stay

[timid galleon]

I expect de-censored mods within a week of launch.

[foggy plinth]

heh. wew

[austere rain]

good, then players like you can stop complaining so much lol, voicing concerns is fine but its been overdone

[ionic gale]

You’re providing nothing to this conversation by mentioning DEI

Just saying

[austere rain]

L ragebait

[timid galleon]

I think if I worked at VOID right now I would think, damn, it's so cool to work for a gaming development studio, pity it's ran by sellouts that are happy to piss off the playerbase that got them to this point (crowdfunded!) to appeal to the mouthbreathing unwashed masses on console

wouldn't be the best feelin', but hey I wouldn't quit over it 😁

and game is still really cool

[austere rain]

oh my god the changes are minor

[crude prism]

...what?

[ionic gale]

Why are you mentioning a Jewish thing??

Are you OK?

[timid galleon]

I don't see why they censor the PC version though

[timid galleon]

because they don't want to support two builds, I get that, but it's kinda pathetic

[austere rain]

been answered a million times

[timid galleon]

just support two builds lol

[crude prism]

[timid galleon]

paying customers will be happy

[austere rain]

you know nothing of game development i can tell or how tedious it is

[ionic gale]

It’s not like at the snap with the finger they could just get more developers and open up a whole new studio just for the other build

[timid galleon]

what is version control software

anyway the seperate builds would be differentiated by a few models and textures, doesn't sound hard to me

don't need a seperate parallel studio for that lol

[austere rain]

crossplay is where it complicates things

[timid galleon]

Well who asked anyway

[ionic gale]

[austere rain]

you did

[timid galleon]

Who is begging for crossplay, is what I mean

[ionic gale]

Okey

[ionic gale]

It would be nice if I can play with my buddies on a different platform

I wouldn’t mind crossplay

[timid galleon]

do you have buddies on different platforms that want to play RoN with you while you're on PC?

[austere rain]

more people than those who didnt. void wont cater to a minority of players

[timid galleon]

or is this purely hypothetical

[covert aurora]

@timid galleon 🤔 your name looks familiar....

[timid galleon]

it was enough to swtich the recent reviews to negative that really suprised me

[ionic gale]

Yes… and they’re actually our people who have friends on other platforms who want to play this together

[carmine wren]

Allows me to play with my wife and a few friends.

[austere rain]

only revent reviews

[ionic gale]

I don’t want to hear the “just get a PC” thing lol

[covert aurora]

i don't mean this in a bad way, i just i think i have seen your name before somewhere.

[crude prism]

Crossplay is a pretty big thing.

For Void this a huge win because friends will literally sell the game to their multi-platform group once crossplay comes.

[ionic gale]

The argument is goofy

[timid galleon]

Tempest Rising is a mutual server

[covert aurora]

aha!

[timid galleon]

and I was very active in that community for a while

[ionic gale]

Oh yes… it will spread that way

[timid galleon]

and I am very active in RTS communties in general

[covert aurora]

gotcha

[ionic gale]

Yeah, other players will see that the game is cool and they would want to get their friends on it

[timid galleon]

Doesn't seem like a good game for a controller

maybe they will nerf the perp AI for console

[blazing echo]

Why is the game getting censored?

[untold tartan]

Oh but they can't run two versions, remember? So they'll have to face what PC players do

[timid galleon]

You seem really mad about it but you're still here posting, I guess you love the game more than most. It certainly is disappointing, but what you gonna do?

[ionic gale]

can you like… NOT bring political shit into this?

Nobody’s taking you seriously because of this

[timid galleon]

they've been clear they don't gaf what PC players think so maybe they will nerf both 🤣 the thing is we can just mod to previous AI and everything is OK 👌

[austere rain]

its giving teen

[timid galleon]

The fact he is so pissed off about it but still here to discuss it while you try to tell him that his opinions are irrelevant signals to me he is probably more of a RoN fan than you Bub

[ionic gale]

Ok

[timid galleon]

and besides everyone on the internet knows that Cuckfornia is a joke :p

[ionic gale]

It’s not great to live here lol

I would know because I live here

[timid galleon]

They're doing right by their bottom-line

[trim willow]

Dramatic

[austere rain]

would you rather ready or not stay on PC and never go to console

[timid galleon]

you might not be aware but did you know that consoles, in general, have crazy censorship standards? I am from Australia but this is true in many other places

[trim willow]

They will say yes out of principle

[timid galleon]

Like for example you cannot depict violence against women unless it's special context

you cannot depict violence against children, tell me when the last time you saw a child actually being harmed in a video game? Doesn't happen

[ionic gale]

I could be a bot

I might not even be real to you (jk)

[foggy plinth]

I think this whole censorship thing is such a weird case of a game of telephone that I almost wonder if there's some malicious behavior going on.

I think that making a PC game have crossplay with console is always going to be a recipe for disaster, even with CO-OP. It never ends well imo and it's a difficult thing to try and support. I think it's an even weirder decision when you compound the fact that some elements necessarily have to be censored for both versions of the game in order to make the netcode work, and the fanbase has a significant number of gore-junkies and that the game was marketed as a gritty, real experience. (Whether or not it delivers on that specific promise, or if it's more of a sarcastic/GTA5 kind of thing, I don't know). VOID have made some head-scratching decisions in the past so that doesn't surprise me (member when they tweeted stuff at Donald Trump back in 2018/2019 or so?)

What is a bit surprising to me is that the game is getting review-bombed as hard as it is, and that the backlash was strong enough to make it onto /r/popular. I have never seen a single post from /r/ReadyOrNotGame get on /r/popular and I'm a moderator for the reddit (kek nobody noticed it) and the person who literally made this Discord. weird also that the Discord is being injected with DEI crap, jewish conspiracies, other crap from people labeled as "New Members" on Discord, that speak broken english, and try to be the smartest person in the room. hm

[timid galleon]

There's a few other 'hard lines' you can't cross, realistic depiction of drug use for example

Fallout 3 had to change Morphene to Med-X, famously, to appease AUssie censorship

[austere rain]

well thats being selfish, forcing void to go bankrupt so you can blow apart corpses makes no sense

[blazing echo]

Who ping me?

[crude prism]

You used to be able to kill the kid that people are fussing over on 213 park. Lol

[untold tartan]

... Wha...
I got my message deleted when the worst thing I said was "Fuck rating groups for games, and fuck SONY and Microsoft (For making VOID censor this game, but not GTA, RDR2, Gears of War, etc)"?

[timid galleon]

well normally that would result in refused classification in a lot of the english speaking world @crude prism

the rules are quite strict when it comes to select 'hard line' issues

the dismemberment thing that VOID are changing, that is another one

[austere rain]

no further changes are occuring, void did what they needed and nothing more, i hate void for this too but i can empathize on both sides

[timid galleon]

we don't live in the era of Soldier of Fortune anymore where you can take chunks out of peoples heads after they're already dead, starting with skin and working your way down 🤣

if your game features dismemberment of corpses, sorry, can't sell that game

[ionic gale]

I can’t believe I was actually called a bot

[trim willow]

This may be a weird view and ik it was a whole marketing thing but i dont see why people would wanna see a kid overdosing, naked women while playing games etc, doesnt make sense to me. Theres other sights to see those naked women urges 😶

[humble mauve]

c word blocked it

[ionic gale]

beep boop

[covert aurora]

boop bop babeep beepbop

[timid galleon]

You made this discord?

[untold tartan]

Ah

[timid galleon]

lol also are you accusing me of broken English? Wtf is this slow-mode? Did somebody notice we were actually discussing something and decide to try and put a stop to it?

Why make new posts when you can just edit old ones

[ionic gale]

Ok

[foggy plinth]

soldier of fortune was ABSOLUTELY censored lmao. it was rated a pornographic title in some regions based on the amount of violence it had, it was completely blocked in germany, and it had built-in password protected parental controls so that parents could tone down for their kids. in fact the GHOUL system that used it also faced some degree of censorship in other Raven titles that used it. you couldn't dismember people's arms etc in Jedi Knight 2 in germany

[trim willow]

Why though, i genuinely dont understand the negativity. Its so immature

[timid galleon]

Yeah but it's obscure at this point, relegated to the bargain bin of gaming history for old people like us

[foggy plinth]

then why bring it up?

[timid galleon]

Because precisely because it was obscure it was able to be published and sold throughout much of the world at that time, gaming was still relatively niche compared to today

[trim willow]

What? The death of a child and naked women 🤦🏽‍♂️

I understand its “for the story” but the censors do not change the way the story is being told at all

[timid galleon]

these days you could never get something like SoF anywhere near a console or mainstream digital storefront. The medium has matured and gone mainstream

[trim willow]

😭 brilliant

[foggy plinth]

it's $6.49 right now on GOG

[timid galleon]

they make it less shocking which is arguably the entire point, the stories are supposed to be confronting, shocking depictions of what real world SWAT officers have to actually deal with in real life. Oops! Too mature for console kiddos even with an appropriate rating apparently

[foggy plinth]

it's actually on sale matter of fact

[timid galleon]

When I said "these days" I mean that if you were to try and make SoF but with MODERN STADARDS of visual fidelity and graphics, welp, good luck publishing that. I mean today 2025

you can't have any dismemberment post-mortem at all or it's blanket refusal to even get classification

[blazing echo]

Why are they censoring the game?

[timid galleon]

it's a hard line, just like violence agianst women, children and realistic depictions of drug use.

[trim willow]

No i get this point i genuinely do, but i dont understand why we are attacking void for it, at the very end of the day void is a business, console release will make them more money, boost player base and will allow them to add more stuff to the game, void didn’t exactly choose to do this but already spent a good amount of money on the console releases to the point they cant just up and back out

[timid galleon]

I'm still kind of amazed rockstar got away with smoking a bong in GTAV but it was preceeding the legalization wave in USA so I guess that helped

[timid galleon]

Do you just hate discussion? Is that it? XD

[timid galleon]

well they are compromising the thing that their original audience helped them to create, remember it was crowdfunded

[crude prism]

What?

He asked why, he should read Void's reasoning, it is the starting point if you are just joining the conversation

[foggy plinth]

well yeah, could you imagine blowing off someone's limbs and breaking someone's bones in 4K? that'd be nuts. imagine like shooting off someone's testicles and seeing the intimate details. you don't see that in modern games.
er.
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1029690/Sniper_Elite_5/
it's also on sale...!

[timid galleon]

and it was pitched as being shocking, realistic, confronting SWAT simulator. They're backing off from that now. Some people are upset over it. Makes sense to me

[timid galleon]

I was imagining it as a kid and couldn't wait for the future! Little did I know :)

[blazing echo]

Can you just give me the short version

[trim willow]

I get why people are upset but they are too upset, theres no need for review bombs and stuff its not actually that deep

[timid galleon]

Sniper Elite is fun, the last one I played was 4

[lapis remnant]

Did they censor yet?

[timid galleon]

'reiview bomb' is just a derivative term used to frame peoples legitimate views as some sort of terrorist act

[trim willow]

They had to get rid of nudity, and stuff to allow for a console release pretty much, its not that deep

[timid galleon]

people write negative reviews because they feel negatively about the game, it's valid.

[blazing echo]

Why? Games like Cyberpunk, Gta, Outlast, and Witcher have nudity

[timid galleon]

we have two more weeks of censorship-free RoN I hear

[ionic gale]

lol this conversation is GOLD

[timid galleon]

If they can get it from R/MA down to M or whatever it will give them more presence on digital storefronts, will be recommended more often etc.

@blazing echo They are just selling out, basically.

[buoyant pecan]

wtf does Kotaku have anything to do with this lmao

[ionic gale]

BEEP BOOP

[timid galleon]

They want to reach as wide an audience as possible, if that means compromising on PC they don't care

[blazing echo]

For censoring nudity?

[timid galleon]

💰 🤑 💰

[trim willow]

[ionic gale]

I fucking love you 2

[timid galleon]

You asked why they are doing it, I said it's to appeal to as large a potential audience as possible to maximize profit

[crude prism]

TLDR, Void is a small indie studio of ~50 people.

Void wants to put the game on console. (9.5m sales on PC, could do even better on console)

In order to get the game approved for console, they have to change several things for ratings boards.

Void cannot (or will not, as some people say) manage multiple separate versions of the game.

Void is going to keep one version for both console and PC, in order to keep development time under contorol.

A bonus of having one build is that crossplay will also be enabled between all platforms.

[thorn mural]

"Ready for PEGI 13"

[buoyant pecan]

This shit is comical

[blazing echo]

I don’t think it’s really a big deal tho

Y’all really review bomb on steam

[ionic gale]

yes

[buoyant pecan]

Jesse what the fuck are you talking about

[timid galleon]

Neither really but then I am not a huge RoN fan that's been supporting them from the beginning. I bought in late and just enjoy the game

[ionic gale]

You guys can have your opinions and I understand that

[timid galleon]

"but"

[ionic gale]

I just won’t agree with you guys

[buoyant pecan]

I’m waiting for this guy to unironically use the word “woke” and say Endymion and the Starfield pronouns guy are based

[timid galleon]

Didn't ask

[lapis remnant]

So I’ll be able to play on Xbox for a bit until it is gone?

[ionic gale]

In most things

[timid galleon]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[blazing echo]

Tuff. I’m still buying the game tho, been wanting a tactical shooter on console for years

[lapis remnant]

Speak English

[timid galleon]

Playing a tactical shooter with an analog stick is wild

[ionic gale]

Your my favorite baiter too dw

[timid galleon]

I am more English than you

[crude prism]

To be clear. The console version of RoN would ALWAYS have been censored. Otherwise it would get an AO rating and be banned from the platforms

The backlash is because they are changing PC too.

(there are some that would rather the game never come to console if it has to be changed, but I feel they are not the majority)

[timid galleon]

Correct, I would not gaf at all if they hadn't decided to retroactively censor the PC version

and I doubt anyone else would care either, I doubt recent Steam Reviews would say 'Mostly Negative'

[blazing echo]

Isn’t the game rated M tho?

[timid galleon]

what

[crude prism]

AO is one step above, and Sony + Microsoft just don't allow those on the platform anymore. The game would not be sold.

Console censors/other governmental bodies are being prude, specific, and unfair basically

[buoyant pecan]

“Eventual shift” lmao

[timid galleon]

The great throngs? The undulating waves of matted hair and flesh they call the 'Console Gamers'? Please, no

I reign from high above in my ivory tower and there I shall stay

[ionic gale]

I should tell you two that shitting on another platform’s is not constructive criticism and it’s just insulting

[timid galleon]

I should tell you that playing RTS with a controller is impossible so there are entire genres of games that those filthy plebs can't even enjoy properly!

[ionic gale]

Let’s be civil actually fr

[timid galleon]

on god, no cap? As you wish

[crude prism]

I played halo wars just fine back in the day!

(still awful controls tho)

[timid galleon]

Yeah and many people first enjoyed RTS (Red Alert) on PS1, wild times

[blazing echo]

But cyberpunk and Witcher has nudity

[covert aurora]

i played wc2 on PS1

[timid galleon]

It's not as if console doesn't have its strengths, fighting games, platformers, racing games... all better with controller

[covert aurora]

it was interesting...

[ionic gale]

It’s really double standards of the industry

[blazing echo]

Oh so aaa games get a special treatment is what it is?

[ionic gale]

Some games are gonna be treated differently than others. It is what it is

[timid galleon]

pick your battles. @covert aurora I think I rented WC2 on PS1 from my local VHS rental place back in the day

[buoyant pecan]

They’re made by successful, big studios and in sci fi and fantasy settings

[ionic gale]

In a way, yes

[blazing echo]

Oook I see…

[buoyant pecan]

Sony and Microsoft give less leniency to smaller dev teams

[covert aurora]

fair enough

[timid galleon]

they hated him because he spoke the truth

[crude prism]

Those are both fantastical (fantasy/unrealistic) games.

RoN gets a harsher scrutiny because it handles a realistic depiction of scenarios.

It might seem the same to us, but to censors, it's all the difference in the world.

Genre matters

[buoyant pecan]

Which is fucking lame fr

[timid galleon]

this is soooo true

censors actually cannot tell the difference between reality and 'realistic depictions', they're confused and influenced easily

[ionic gale]

I love you Kirb

[buoyant pecan]

At what point did they call anyone bigots lmao

[ionic gale]

Yeah, it’s dumb double standards for whatever reason

[timid galleon]

God I love that SoF was using the 'GHOUL Engine' for gore and dismemberment, wtf, thank you to whoever mentioned that

[crude prism]

yeah man, if you say so

[timid galleon]

SoF composer was 'Chia Chin Lee'. Do you think he was Asian?

[buoyant pecan]

I can’t see a single amount of evidence showing Void calling people bigots lol

[timid galleon]

Source: I made it up

[crude prism]

it's bait. just ignore, he'll say something to get himself banned soon enough

[humble mauve]

I don't remember that happening

must've been censored

[warm cobalt]

The devil were put against a metaphorical wall and asked where they wanted to be shot they didn't have a choice about if

The devs autocorrect

[buoyant pecan]

The devil?
Edit: lol

[covert aurora]

were not going there

[crude prism]

Freudian slip.

[lost inlet]

Are we done at discussing censorship?

[bold sky]

theres no way i get hit for that and these green leafs spamming the same topic like bots for the pass 3 days arent lol

[buoyant pecan]

Ready or Bot

[ionic gale]

Well according to Kirb IM a bot beep boop

[bold sky]

?? and ur brain is already

[mossy socket]

I must say, VOID has some balls for doing what they did during the summer sale. LOL

[crude prism]

Confidence is KEY 💅

(tru tho)

[steep warren]

I have completed the campaign. I have one "C" on Neon Tomb, 2 Bs, and everything else is higher. What am I missing to unlock the DLC? I am still getting the message that I need to complete the campaign. What's the trick?

[crude prism]

Hit up #💻tech-support , they can probably help better than randos in here

[steep warren]

Thank you.

[bold sky]

bruh they laugh at me when i said this channel has some of the most radical moderation and they literally just break up a very tame conversation by discord standard w 10m slowmode lolol

[eager walrus]

hardly radical when a day ago chat was full of illiterate people complaining

[mossy socket]

https://tenor.com/view/snake-water-drink-gif-18219071

[crude prism]

https://tenor.com/view/snake-drink-thirsty-cute-water-gif-16181446

[mossy socket]

Damn...

[crude prism]

based hognose posting

[mossy socket]

THANK YOU!!

[crude prism]

yeah not doing that one

[normal rain]

bro u doing rp on discord

[stable kernel]

Not anymore

[crude prism]

wow so crazy, I wonder what happened to that guy

must've fell victim to the unfair censorship

[stable kernel]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/452425840274309120/1389331582359437363/censor.gif

[mossy socket]

I take it you have to be in the server for 3-5 days to post GIFs?

[crude prism]

more like 3-5 years, sorry

they don't really give out perms that often

[stable kernel]

1984 around here

[bold sky]

if they give gif permission to people after 3-5 days this place would look worse than afghanistan 3 years ago

[blazing echo]

Idk why y’all mad just mod the shit back in

[mossy socket]

Oi, nice MGRR banner. Love that game and my beloved Raiden

[bold sky]

quite sure its just the bots and clones of 2 people getting mad

like if you think about it scar h in this game has such a troll recoil pattern for so long, scar l is straight broken and still is garbage in the game, half the smg have spaghetti noodles esp when you get hit in the arm

with all that gun prob why is no one complaining but this gets like over 200 people complaining

thus i conclude it must be one person testing some new ai technology to mass bot and ragebait

[crude prism]

I love mk16 and mk17 and they've both been done dirty!!!! Leaving negative review over it rn

[bold sky]

bruh no way fal in this game has better recoil than scar h like lolololol

[stable kernel]

Certainly an interesting line of logic to get there

[humble mauve]

ive seen enough

quintuple the recoil of every gun

[covert aurora]

interesting.... line of logic....

[scarlet flax]

What, are you guys shooting full auto?

[bold sky]

can just multiply recoil by 10 times idc but scar h having more recoil than the whole cast of 7.62 nato is just hilarious

i fire full auto bc i mod the game to be harder than 1.0 bots so i cant just semi unless my gun actually one shot them on some maps

[mossy socket]

Yes that must be it lol. Over 10k people on Steam leaving neg reviews and rising, must all be a grand and mass-scaled scheme to finally overthrow RoN off of Steam.

[ionic gale]

Wowie

[scarlet flax]

It’s okay I’ll still play it. Gotta finish S Ranking.

[bold sky]

ron'll be fine steam review is hot garbage most of the time

[scarlet flax]

It’s true lol

[bold sky]

anyone with any shred of sanity left is gonna look at the review and know its written by someone w the intelligent of park homes bot

[crude prism]

or... or... void could edit this single file and fix the awkward and broken SMG recoil...

they literally already have it set up to modify weapon classes separately... WHICH THEY DO FOR LMGS

[mossy socket]

[desert island]

im back

[crude prism]

RoNcord is healing, we're complaining about random game balance stuff instead of ~DRAMA~

[scarlet flax]

Eh 🤷‍♂️

[bold sky]

is elcan specter still misaligned in this game btw

[crude prism]

I don't actually know, one sec

[bold sky]

i have no clue if thats fixed yet bc the thread for it is just buried under random crap now

[scarlet flax]

What is dis?

[desert island]

scope

[bold sky]

maybe the peak of ron was 2021 when we were all just datamining and discussing guns and whether scope or canted aligned

[humble mauve]

real men run irons so they cant see anything because you can only have one eyeball on a screen

[bold sky]

i mean i run canted

[ionic gale]

Do you have any data of Stab Vests ACTUALLY Provides stab protection

[desert island]

irons would be fine if they didnt have such a penalty on alignment speed

[bold sky]

its either iron + canted laser or elcan + canted for the recoil reduction

its insane than elcan gives 20% recoil reduction thats higher than suppressor

[ionic gale]

I run an optic, Foregrip and laser

[mossy socket]

Well, I wish everyone here a Happy Fourth of July and a lovely weekend. Toodles!

[crude prism]

They do not

[desert island]

its a 20% recoil reduction but its a 10% delay to align on target

[scarlet flax]

Big fan of the flashlight, myself. Easy to see in any environment.

[bold sky]

aligning stuff matters way less w canted

[ionic gale]

It’s a fucking psychological effect?

[bold sky]

canted bypass a lot of the ads related effect

[desert island]

stab vest just gives u more item slots

[bold sky]

im quite sure if you install mods to have almost 100 - 100 + suspects in this game every map it becomes painfully clear how broken canted is compared to regular ads

[ionic gale]

I never use Kevlar armor or Stab vest

[ionic gale]

I just bring nods myself

[bold sky]

you get to acquire target so much faster and so long as you are aware of the recoil pattern while canted for your gun you can rapidly engage multiple targets at a time if they rush you

[scarlet flax]

Nods+bright lights make me sad 😞

[desert island]

i dont like it for precision

[bold sky]

using ads has so much visual recoil even on semi its so hard to fight like 10+ suspects pushing you

ok idk if you mean accuracy or precision, precision wise canted is very consistent

[ionic gale]

I 💕 using canted aiming

[desert island]

the laser just disappears

[scarlet flax]

It’s true. I feel like it’s hard to acquire accurate hits with canted though unless in close quarters.

[bold sky]

accuracy wise you have to learn where your shots are going beforehand but they definitely make it easier now that they fix canted misalignment

[desert island]

but hey sometimes the red dot also disappears

[bold sky]

i think thats where the learning gap comes in, canted arguably have more learning curve than ads bc of that but over time you inituitively just know where its gonna go

also yeah laser not being visible at long range on bright maps is kinda rough but like

remember how you play cs using awp scout and stuff

[scarlet flax]

I guess that’s why people use laser, too for the reduces spread effect.

Or recoil. Whatever it is.

[bold sky]

its the same with canted, even if you cant see the laser you know where its gonna go if you play long enough

[desert island]

u can use both not just stuck to canted

[bold sky]

i mean you cant do canted w a flashlight usually unless you are god

again yeah i think you should play both but once you truly push the limit of canted you can play it exclusively too

[scarlet flax]

I do this… but like I said only tight corners and stuff.

[ionic gale]

I mainly do canted if I’m pieing a room or to id someone

[bold sky]

thats why i put elcan on it to abuse elcan recoil reduction and only at some ridiculous range i swap to elcan

[desert island]

tapping people from the window on top floor of dollhouse is for red dot

[scarlet flax]

I like how the flashlight illuminates people in the background.

[desert island]

bursting people when ur pushing doors is for canted

[bold sky]

i snipe bots from top of lighthouse all the way to blue fuel on hokan with canted laser sight reliably so its doable

[dim lion]

Damn i shot the dude in the cult house w the traps like 10 times and he didn't die

[desert island]

he got armor and increased hp

[bold sky]

i dont deny that hokan outdoor is peak visibility condition for laser sight but even so you can definitely snipe w canted if you do that enough

but i do admit that im not a police cosplayer in this game and i play it like i would play cs so i like having stuff that offers a learning curve

else what am i doing min maxing for nothing

[ionic gale]

Yall do CQB tactics like “slicing the pie” and such?

Nice stuff I catch myself doing

[scarlet flax]

?

[bold sky]

fr i just press w and low ready w canted then shoot

[desert island]

the game is alot easier if u dont care about roe

[ionic gale]

You would start at the outside of the room & slowly shift from one side of the doorway to the other

You’re basically just scanning the room

[desert island]

just strafe enemies and overkill them

[bold sky]

it depends on how you setup the game; if you play vanila yeah, if you mod the game to just be as many suspects as your rig can handle then its different

i used to love playing this game vanila w people dont get me wrong

but after 4 years it gets bland eventually so i just push the limit and turn it into a shooter game

[scarlet flax]

Oh I literally do this every time. It’s so bad of a habit that I do it in Repo as well lmao

[ionic gale]

No, no bro it’s actually a genuine CQC tactic that you would use for clearing out a room

[bold sky]

id even go as far to say this game can be modded so well it does its job better than insurgency

[desert island]

its a genuine common sense tactic

[scarlet flax]

Yeah once you S levels and play stuff a lot it’s hard to care about playing correctly and such.

[bold sky]

you can setup your insurgency scenario in this game and it straight plays better sometimes just without as colorful objectives

[ionic gale]

I have picked up some slight CQC tactics from this game… just simple shit like not being in front of the door when breaching

@desert island yep

[bold sky]

i swear grinding s is like just chemical warfare sim and sometimes rng

[desert island]

most games have respawning so its not worth pieing doors

[scarlet flax]

Good for laser tag 🤔🤔🤔

[bold sky]

its not even that interesting and you kinda get all s after like what a week of effort at most?

[ionic gale]

Only really works for games like this where it’s encouraged/beneficial

[bold sky]

ironman is more interesting than all s ngl the tension even when you know the map is there

[scarlet flax]

Some if the levels are crazy though. I mean 5 man S ranks are probably cake but duo S ranks are kinda fun.

[bold sky]

idk i actually got all s a while ago grinding w bots

i actually like doing s w bots bc theres no time cap

most of the s grind is just going slow

[scarlet flax]

I can’t imagine it’s as fun. It’s just a different challenge.

[scarlet flax]

Time cap?

[bold sky]

you dont have a timer ticking down aside from bombs

[crude prism]

yes, still broken

[desert island]

playing with other ppl means not wasting ppls time

[scarlet flax]

I’ve never seen that unless bomb or shooter

[bold sky]

kekw im not surprised lol rip elcan

[ionic gale]

Are you the stats guy?

[bold sky]

thanks for doing that btw

[scarlet flax]

I play with my roommate for duos. I don’t pub S ranks.

[desert island]

hes the ron hater

[stable kernel]

Ye of little faith on my handcrafted targets

[ionic gale]

we ALL hate RON right guys????

right?

[stable kernel]

Nah

[bold sky]

i mean the recent influx of bots joining this channel to rant kinda show that we love ron way more than we realized

not to the point where we just bot to rant

[scarlet flax]

I like this game 👍

[crude prism]

randoms are giving me a run for my RoN hating money

[bold sky]

frfr

[deft star]

Besides the new 2 maps, are we getting more new storylines connected by multiple maps soon?

[scarlet flax]

Pubbing would be interesting in this game.

[stable kernel]

You hate it for different reasons though spreadsheet man

[scarlet flax]

He speaks the truth^

[stable kernel]

You hate the lack of polish and technical things

I assume

They hate it for what it is

[crude prism]

yeah pretty much, (void just let me fix the files for you, I will literally send you fixed files)

[ionic gale]

I can finally be a good swat guy now

because I finally fixed my mic

[scarlet flax]

🫡🫡🫡

[crude prism]

new Voip soonTM, gonna make in game chat way better hopefully

[stable kernel]

Rick and morty role play stonks

[crude prism]

real

[stable kernel]

Literally all I can hear when i listen to that

[ionic gale]

Wdym lol

[stable kernel]

“Ah jeez Rick, I don’t know if that was in the ROE”
“Shut up morty, he was reaching”

[scarlet flax]

I can picture it so clearly, you monster.

[stable kernel]

Have you not heard the VoIP demo a couple dev logs ago?

[scarlet flax]

I’m going to think about that forever now

[stable kernel]

You should listen to it

[buoyant pecan]

I recently found out mirrorguns aren’t actually a thing used very often at all

Kinda wish we had more weapons with burst fire capabilities

[desert island]

cuz it doesnt actually work

[ionic gale]

It exists as snake cams

[bold sky]

mirrorgun is a crutch they give you to start learning the game

[buoyant pecan]

Ah yea the thing that was in Rainbow Six Vegas

[bold sky]

plus swat 4 legacy

[crude prism]

https://tenor.com/view/this-is-my-safety-black-hawk-down-guns-trigger-gif-11970662

[stable kernel]

Took forever to find

[ionic gale]

But but police officers won’t use it because they mostly will just use CQC shit in order to evaluate rooms

[stable kernel]

Sorry

[ionic gale]

Slicing the pie and stuff like that

[bold sky]

its more bc police irl swarm you like its human wave attacks on steroid

[crude prism]

bro good Voip is gonna do WORK for RoN

[bold sky]

they dont go in w 5 dudes wearing police cosplay losing to uncle joe w a wooden leg and a m249 on brisa cove

[trail radish]

Voice chat finally actually being changed? Inconceivable

[ionic gale]

What’s up with the voice chat?

[desert island]

if theres 1 person with a gun doing violence

[stable kernel]

[desert island]

they r gona get every cop on u

[buoyant pecan]

Deagle in RoN when

[stable kernel]

#👮ron-discussion message

[desert island]

real cqc tactics is spam the room with concussive grenades

[stable kernel]

Coming soon to a ron lobby near you

[ionic gale]

Oh wait it’s getting proximity stuff?

[trail radish]

Why not frag grenades

[desert island]

prbly cuz thats a lethal

[ionic gale]

A teammate’s mic would basically sound quieter if you move away from them?

[buoyant pecan]

My favorite cqc tactic is using a flamethrower and barbecuing the entire room

[bold sky]

isnt that what local channel is originally

[stable kernel]

Seems like a local channel overhaul

We shall see how team chat is

[buoyant pecan]

“Hostages eliminated.”
“You mean hostiles?”
“Those too.”

[crude prism]

that's what local channel does now, but the volume is SO LOW you can't hear anyone

[desert island]

it would be crazy if lapd swat had to take on more than 2 people in an active shooting

[bold sky]

i think theres an incendiary grenade mod no?

[stable kernel]

I think local is straight sphere radius though

[bold sky]

flamethrower sounds cool and all but these days most flamethrower are launched or thrown instead of needing a person to carry a tube and deliver it themselves

[stable kernel]

This has occlusion and shit that the maps already do

[bold sky]

even in ww2 they have wp bazookas too for that reason

[ionic gale]

Why would somebody use the local channel?

[bold sky]

for immersion

[trail radish]

I will actually use local vc chat if they implement this, makes the game more interesting

[bold sky]

plus prolly a relic from pvp days too if you want to trash talk other team

[stable kernel]

Rick and morty role play

You can’t tell me you don’t hear it in the vid

[bold sky]

if pvp still exist with that arrest mechanic i can definitely imagine people using local to trash talk the other team into shooting them

[covert aurora]

i heard it

[trail radish]

I have deduced that I have been turned into a pickle

[crude prism]

straight radio-voip is fine, but this is FUN

[buoyant pecan]

TOC to entry team, be advised: remember to kiss the homies good night

[trail radish]

It’s like playing REPO, it’s more fun/funny to use prox voice chat

[ionic gale]

I do Si- Queue-Cee in Ron

[covert aurora]

first rounds on me roll in

new toc is interesting

[ionic gale]

Old TOC is always classic but

new TOC sounds a lot more professional, and I love it

I don’t want to get killed here but

[covert aurora]

i do like it don't get me wrong

[trail radish]

Speaking of old voice lines, I have no clue why judge loved saying “suspect DOA” he is not DOA, you killed him my guy

[ionic gale]

Imao

[desert island]

saying it for the body cam

[crude prism]

"suspect fucked around and found out"

[wicked breach]

remove the fucking censorship or just add an setting for enabling or disabling it

[ionic gale]

🤦‍♂️

[trail radish]

Also reading your Miranda rights, I know it’s a nitpick but personally it just was a bruh moment

[ionic gale]

The rating boards have instructed them not to do a toggle feature as it would get the game banned

[ionic gale]

New TOC is just nice as hell

[trail radish]

Also, I swear old Prescott sounded like he was trying to seduce the suspects sometimes lol

[ionic gale]

I remember playing Brixley’s talent, agency, and my entire team failed… TOC called the feds

He literally said that FISA’s SWAT teams are going to handle the situation

I love shit like that

[wicked breach]

i don't care i paid for the uncensored game

[trail radish]

Hits a bit different when all of my officers are wearing fisa outfits

[ionic gale]

lol

[crude prism]

"we have more officers?" -Judge and his team of the only 4 cops for 50 miles

[ionic gale]

I just gave you an explanation why they can’t do it?

[trail radish]

“The feds died, let’s call in the feds”

[wicked breach]

is it because only console?

[ionic gale]

The console platforms and the rating boards don’t want the censorship to be a toggle feature

They’re not allowed to do that

[crude prism]

Void has explained the changes and the reasons why in the pinned messages and #announcements if you would like to read them

The answers might not be totally satisfying, but hopefully it sheds a little more light on the situation.

[trail radish]

Also that fisa announcement in port makes zero sense when I’m wearing a full fed build lol

Like brother, I AM FISA

[wicked breach]

ok then

[wicked breach]

sure

[ionic gale]

The voice line is

“Objective failed, fall back and wait for the arrival of Federal units”

I don’t know why but I like little details like this

My team has died, but at least FISA is gonna continue the fight

There’s other mission failed stuff like this where they mentioned federal units

[trail radish]

“Let’s make the police department do the job of the feds and THEN send the Feds when the swat guys croak” Ron moment

[ionic gale]

lol

The HRT is gonna literally smoke every suspect in that building

[trail radish]

the fisa outfit gives you infinite health and instant headshots

[ionic gale]

I’m really wanting mor FISA gear

[trail radish]

Hopefully we get some of the knockoff cia in the game

Would be dumb, but funny

[ionic gale]

USIA?

[stable kernel]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/955285512682344504/1290851730380165140/caption.gif

[ionic gale]

they would be military units?

I don’t know if that was exactly make sense

USIA’s Ground Branch team

[ionic gale]

They’re gonna silence Gerard themselves

[trail radish]

Imma be real, kinda wish the shotgun the supporter build got was a pump shotgun (I totally am not biased against semi auto shotguns)

[ionic gale]

eman do you agree with me that new TOC is based?

[ionic gale]

ur so mean

[stable kernel]

[wicked breach]

you should censor yourself now!

[stable kernel]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/452425840274309120/1389331582359437363/censor.gif

[covert aurora]

https://tenor.com/view/lobotomy-corporation-censored-freak-gif-3011758822205708121

[desert island]

TOC shaking his head when he sees me equip the entryman

[stable kernel]

Which of these would you rather have

[desert island]

top

[stable kernel]

Choose wisely