👮ron-discussion

[gilded oar]

also it is crossplay and will be coming alongside a small/medium sized updated called "Stories of Los Suenos"

introducing new features, 4 new guns and 2 returning but completly revamped maps they say.

[gentle hound]

whats the best gun for incapacitating people

[gilded oar]

just shoot em in the leg with any gun

or idk 2 or 1 tap in the chest

but if you doin S tier you gotta keep em alive incapacitating suspects will not count as S

thus leading to A cuz of one incapacitated suspect

[wet moat]

anything that is 7.62 oh wait alive uh...

[gentle hound]

fuck it ill run in with pepper spray

[wet moat]

beanbag shotgun

[gilded oar]

pepper spray is viable but might not help you all the time sooo use beanbag or pepperballs

but try not to shoot them in the head with the beanbag as it would kill them

[wet moat]

beanbag is more reliable then pepperball in my experience then again i go full lethal

[gilded oar]

true but still pepper ball is pretty useful but yea beanbag is the best

of the best

for S

just don't shoot em in the head with it

[wet moat]

shoot the head it's fun

[gilded oar]

I mean if you are going for S yea don't

[gentle hound]

i use to use the sa 58 it would just kill them instantly

[gilded oar]

if you ain't goin for S shoot em in the head

[gentle hound]

i want 1 S tier then ill feel complete

but my ai just kills them

[wet moat]

Beanbag and C2

set the AI to use Pepperballs

[gentle hound]

alr

also i have 2 mods for ragdolls and blood but it says mod detected unoffical score does that matter?

[wet moat]

nope

[gentle hound]

sound

where do i find pepper balls

[wet moat]

one is an Assault Rifle the other is Submachine Gun, look for the orange guns

[gentle hound]

thanks i found it

[turbid bison]

Is there plans for an airport mission?? Like throughout the main missions you can see planes coming into land which suggests there is a airport in the city and it would be sick for an airport mission

[wet moat]

maybe, we'll just have to wait and see or someone makes an airport map

[gentle hound]

how do u make clothing for ready or not i wanna make like an ERU or ASU vest

[fringe cosmos]

https://www.roblox.com/share?code=7990d8b8f7a80d47a9f653c9c551db57&type=ExperienceDetails&stamp=1745230680943 WTF?

is this

[limber basin]

Is there gonna be mouse and keyboard support when it comes out on console?

[lusty tendon]

I hate my stupid government
Banning this game is the worst idea australia has ever done

[silver palm]

I agree but hopefully it won’t last long

[lusty tendon]

Our country needs to get their stuff together mate
Banning ANY video game for people under 16 is actually mind boggling

Well roblox atleast is getting banned along with social media

[stable ocean]

The one good thing

[lusty tendon]

Nah mate roblox is actually fun as hell if you got friends

[stable ocean]

What's a friend

[lusty tendon]

Spent half my day last arvo laughing my ass off on natural disaster survival

[stable ocean]

I personally don't hate roblox but I don't enjoy it

[lusty tendon]

I love messing around in mic up and other random games with my mates

[tacit gull]

Roblox can be awesome if you have the right experiences

There's a tactical shooter on there with probably the most in depth gun customisation out there

best part is the shooting is good too

[silver palm]

About the console versions, since there’s no cross progression this means that people will have to rebuy the DLCs if they bought them on PC

Kinda cooked

[tacit gull]

...yes?

They also have to buy the whole game on consoles

[silver palm]

Yeah but that’s expected

[tacit gull]

Even if there is cross progression

[silver palm]

Yeah it doesn’t mean you’ll get the DLCs back

[tacit gull]

You won't get the DLCs back even with it unless VOID state otherwise

[silver palm]

Just a small downside that it’s very common at this point so there’s nothing surprising about it

[tacit gull]

I just don't see why you'd buy it on console if you already have it on pc

[silver palm]

Plenty of reasons in my case

Don’t know about the others obviously

[storm bone]

what? Where does it say that?

[lusty tendon]

It was last year when the pm said he was gonna ban social media for people under 16

[storm bone]

I searched it up, they said roblox isn't included

and that's not a social media is it?

[lusty tendon]

It is becoming one

They keep updating their platform to become a social media

[storm bone]

well I guess voice chat system may be concerning for them

[lusty tendon]

They even added calling and are currently updating the "texting" part of the app

[storm bone]

I see

[lusty tendon]

I think it's all BS because it's the parents fault if they let their kid get exposed to horrible stuff on media

[storm bone]

exactly

[lusty tendon]

And now and days most kids have more real friends online than in real life, and it's just gonna cut their contact with that bond

[tacit gull]

guys can we keep ready or blox chat in #💬general-discussion

[lusty tendon]

Like I'm still friends with my mate on my xbox from like 10 years ago
Also yes sorry gratr

[storm bone]

ron means ready/roblox or not

[tacit gull]

bet you dont even have the bloxxer trophy

[gilded oar]

[storm bone]

I have 45k place visits though

[golden schooner]

How am I supposed to save the civies in Elephant? S ranking greased palms was easier than this shit. The active shooters just kill the hostages too fast

[tacit gull]

Get lucky and only focus on the suspects

[ornate mauve]

.

[tacit gull]

joseph bell period

[frail pier]

Titanic

[spice plaza]

Is this game mostly focusing on modding or what?

[amber dock]

Not really

[tacit gull]

arma is more on that line

[amber dock]

Arma is made for modding

[wet moat]

Arma 3 coding flashbacks

oh god no, not again

surely someone makes a mod that adds the American-180, it is a .22LR rifle that was used in American Policing back in 60s as a 'less than-lethal' option

[tacit gull]

if you consider sawing someone's arm off with bullets less than lethal yeah

[lavish sky]

Has there been any news from the devs regarding the Aus game ban

[tacit gull]

No

[brittle cedar]

I hope console had mod support

I’m to broke for a pc

[urban walrus]

If modding is not available at launch then it probably will in the future since it's one of the reason why they chose to integrate mod io over Steam workshop to begin with.

[amber dock]

Woah you’re that person battlelegit

[brittle cedar]

I hope it will be a thing at lunch but honestly even if we don’t get mods I’m just happy to get the game it’s self

[pliant magnet]

do my officers in commander mode only get more anxious if they get injured or also if I like kill a civlian by accident

[amber dock]

I think they simply get more anxious by seeing death

[pliant magnet]

asking because I am doing valley of the dolls right now

[amber dock]

Like suspects being dead and civs yada yada

[cloud hedge]

Civ deaths seem to stress them out way more, I’d imagine it’s the same story for friendly officers.

[fleet shard]

Any new info on the Ron ban in Australia?

[wet moat]

had 2 officers go into critical after they gun me down and the board is closed till probably 9ish

[cloud hedge]

No.

[fleet shard]

Aight

[opal basin]

Were people bullet proof in the 60s or something?

Well no I suppose people were just stupider. I mean hell, the Russians used the KS23, a 4 gauge shotgun as prison crowd control.

[wet moat]

no clue as 1 im an aussie and 2 i wasnt round that time

[stoic geyser]

I'm fucking dying, a rando teammate was kissing a door with C2 on it, shield up, charge goes off and they are predictably, dead

[eager walrus]

That would require modio to function

[eager walrus]

Have faith in the shield

[mortal burrow]

I hope we'll be able to pre-order the game soon since we can only wishlist as of now and since to get the new gear we have to pre order

[mortal burrow]

Yeah I hope to at least be able to download custom maps but I don't expect it but I hope

[stoic geyser]

Watching someone use buckshot vs Ides enemies is pain

Just doing diddly against lvl 3 and higer plates

[brittle cedar]

Yeah

[lean heart]

Does anyone know why launchers randomly don’t go off, or how a stun launcher causes injury to one of my squad even with no enemies insight?

[magic stone]

can we have c4

[stoic geyser]

I'm starting to think I need to install the version of no crack without traps

randos keep rushing into them lol

[gilded oar]

nah we need 5 stacked C2

[lean heart]

Think I figured it out they end up hitting the edge of the door with the stun, that’s so dumb

[round pagoda]

"fuck your hostages and fuck your building" - judge, probably

[frosty drift]

See that’s dedication to the Wall

There is no “distance” and “hiding” for opening a door

[wraith basin]

If only this game had pre-planning possibility...

[gilded oar]

you can KINDA pre-plan through the mission map overview tab but its really just mid

[lime flume]

Guys is there an mod that adds picatinny rail on the ak?

[wraith basin]

But I mean like, planning routes for bots and they would execute them and so on

[gilded oar]

ohh I see you mean't that okay

yea hoping maybe they'll add pre-planning but just hoping

just hopinnnnnnnnnng

[wraith basin]

One can dream, yeah..

[lime flume]

So can someone answer me question

is there a mod that adds picatinny rail on the ak?

[wraith basin]

https://discord.com/channels/310075021882294272/922350557031702608 ask from here

[lime flume]

Aight

[plush skiff]

i think nvidia drivers have fucked the game

dropping to 90 fps on a 5080 is wild

might have to roll back

[gilded oar]

[wary crystal]

i really don´t know what weapons to use because i´m new, can anyone give me a name of 2 good weapons for my loadout

[wraith basin]

Just came back home and thinking about skipping gym for today.

[ionic gale]

Honestly

There’s no bad weapons in the game they all have their own used cases

[wraith basin]

ARN-18 and MK18

[ionic gale]

Especially the 556 rifles, they are no more different from each other maybe aside from barrel length and attachment options

Just depends on which flavor of AR 15 you want

Me personally I like to really experiment and play with a lot of different weapons, but that’s just me

[ionic gale]

Yeah, those are some alright choices

[ionic gale]

In terms of side arms, it’s a bit different

[wraith basin]

Basically what the game gives you at the start is just more than fine, or in my opinion atleast.

[ionic gale]

Yeah, you can start experimenting with a lot of different weapons once you get settled in

[wraith basin]

Exactly.

[ionic gale]

I mostly choose my guns based on attachment options, barrel length & obviously, depending on the mission

Aesthetics are also kind of something I like too

[wet moat]

7.62 is reliable enough....but STG

[ionic gale]

I don’t like using the SLR 47

I just don’t like the optic selection for the gun

I want muh EOTECH

Still waiting for the G36C getting an EOTECH

[wet moat]

Yea that's with most firearms

[ionic gale]

In terms of your side arm

The 9 mm pistols are more or less also the same depends on which gang you affiliate with

[copper cypress]

Do you guys think that the Neon Tomb level is suitable for applying the mirage of sea mechanism? Like: If Qadamah is not captured within minutes, the terrorists will begin executing the remaining surviving civilians.

[ionic gale]

Are you Glock gang? Beretta gang? SIG gang?

[ionic gale]

The M1911’s in this game is a bit complicated for me

[wet moat]

Imagine if the game had that SIG Pistol that fires on it's own

[ionic gale]

It already has technically

It has the Flux Raider x P320

[wary crystal]

idk

[ionic gale]

The USP .45 is also a pretty damn good weapon

You could also go for the 1911s, granted they do have less ammunition if that is what you want

The Five Seven is very good

[wary crystal]

ok

[ionic gale]

Especially when you’re using a shield,

[wet moat]

It's .45 ACP probably one of the most reliable pistol round

[wary crystal]

so just give me the 2 weapons you think are the best in the game(name of them)

[ionic gale]

The 1911’s

[ionic gale]

MK18 & Glock 19

[wary crystal]

ok

[ionic gale]

You will see later on that the weapons are not too different from each other

[wary crystal]

ok

[ionic gale]

There is no “meta” in this game

[wet moat]

Wait there's meta to a pve game

[ionic gale]

There’s stuff that’s obviously useless in the game (lock pick gun)

[ionic gale]

Yeah, that stuff will start to matter when the PVP comes out but for now

Do you want to be a jackass and run around with no armor with a bunch of mags for a Glock? You can go ahead and do that it’s not viable but lol

[wary crystal]

btw i got some "peq-15 ir laser" that doesn´t work i think, it doesnt do anything

[ionic gale]

It is an IR laser

Only see the laser through night vision

[wary crystal]

ok

[ionic gale]

The other laser is a visible laser, which you can see

[wet moat]

Bub meta in gaming ruins the game and the lock pick gun is helpful when your legs are broken, U got no c2 left and U don't carry the door shotgun/ram

[ionic gale]

Sorry, I was just getting caught up in the lock pick Gunn slander lol

I’m just referring to the fact that I’m hearing that a lot of people do not really use the lock pick gun

It’s not completely dog shit useless but like it doesn’t really have a big use case for many

[wet moat]

I use it when I'm running gunfighter and mp

[next veldt]

Lock pick gun haters 🗣️

[ionic gale]

Yeah, I agree that meta ruins the game

[wet moat]

Also about 5 hours till the classification board opens then it's just the waiting game

[ionic gale]

When choosing a primary, for me, it boils down to. what suspects I’m up against mostly

So of course, if I just want to run it because it’s cool/aesthetics

[wet moat]

Only time I run an ar like rifle is on Elephant with a LPVO

[ionic gale]

Oh?

What rifle do you main then?

[fringe jacinth]

Imo the Alpha Swat uniforms look much better Than the current LSPD swat uniforms

[fringe jacinth]

HK416 SMR

[wet moat]

Unmodded either LVAR or any of the G3s
Modded STG44

[ionic gale]

Based

[wet moat]

But my first primary was F90

Gotta love Aussie bullpups

[ionic gale]

They got to add those uniforms back in some sort of anniversary update to ready or not

Of course there’s mods as well

[fringe jacinth]

Agreed they look so much more “swat” than the current ones

[ionic gale]

Wdym?

The default uniforms?

[lost inlet]

the MK23 gang.

[fringe jacinth]

The current ones look awful imo. Mismatched

[ionic gale]

I can feel the aura through my phone screen coming off of you

[ionic gale]

Yeah, I don’t know exactly why they decided to do the mismatched thing

I mean, I guess it looks kind of cool for aesthetics

To each their own

[lost inlet]

if you think lockpick gun is dogshit, wait till you see pepper spray. Shit spits orange juice.

[ionic gale]

lul

It’s funny to pepper spray your buddies tho

[static hornet]

Don't know if it's been asked before but does anyone know why they removed the opinion on the situation a level has?

[fringe jacinth]

Yeah default LSPD uniforms looks awful.

The alpha ones had the pure black symmetry

[ionic gale]

huh

[static hornet]

Like I remember that in the beta you could have a bomb threat on most levels or barricaded suspects on others

[ionic gale]

Oh yeah, I remember that

They removed it

I think it’s because they wanted to just put those different situations into one single map

[gilded oar]

beta?

what beta

[ionic gale]

It was during early access. Before 1.0.

[gilded oar]

ohh okay

[ionic gale]

I bought the game I think after the Adam update

[gilded oar]

I bought it when it was first released I think...........

[wet moat]

That unlocked a core RoN memory

[gilded oar]

idk I forgot

[ionic gale]

me 2

[static hornet]

Ah, kinda wished they kept it

[gilded oar]

[wet moat]

Miss the old HQ

[ionic gale]

Also, by the way, we’re finally getting a difficulty selector in the ronsole release

[gilded oar]

RIP old underground HQ, you will be missed 🫡

[wet moat]

In the morn I'll probably boot up RoN and play Homeland

[gilded oar]

tru

[gilded oar]

homeland? or you mean by HOMELAND SECURITY

[wet moat]

Homeland mod map of old HQ being of ran by a group

[plucky depot]

I'm trying to do the hanged man achievement, but everytime I throw a flashbang the game switches back to the main weapon and I think this destroys the try. Any thoughts?

[wet moat]

I hate my phone always glitching out

[gilded oar]

oh i see

[copper flint]

Ready or Not

[gilded oar]

[stone bay]

whats up with the resurrecting AI lol

couple times now ive called suspects as DOA and then after walking past they get up after a minute

[ionic gale]

I usually just detain any suspect, regardless if they are dead or not

In case of some black magic necromancy shit bring them back from the dead

Also known as “a bug”

[silk spear]

I know there's an achievment for reporting/arresting a downed suspects and then it turns out they were faking it. "The Magician" I think it was called. A feature basically.

[stone bay]

oh perhaps thats it then

was pretty convincing as i blew up a door in his face

its happened a couple times thoughso ur prob right

[slender sand]

AI Squad needs to desperately be improved, tell me why I was being shot by someone on “The Spider” and instead of doing anything, my AI Squad was looking around and shouting just for half of my squad to die.

[silk spear]

Ah that would do it then. I got the achievment when I did the CSI house and blew open the doors with the guy behind it

[slender sand]

they are so ass, what’s the point in even having them around

[stone bay]

yea theyre abbit stupid

[toxic plank]

Most of the time I just tell them to hold at the spawn then go solo.

[stone bay]

Generally ur best strat with them is to split red and blue infront and behind if youre expecting contact

Dont move through rooms or unknown places at the front

[silk spear]

True tho. Ideal feature would be to set how long the A.I try to be non-lethal for until going for the kill and tuning it so that if you're activally beign shot upon to shoot back.

[toxic plank]

Or if you are, what I do is I have them breach it then I move in with a shield and pop off anybody up front.

[slender sand]

no matter what I tell them to do they just take the “Fall In” command

even if I don’t use the command

[lyric marsh]

lowkey i just shove buckshot into her throat

[stone bay]

are u pressing z or using the menu

[stone bay]

Tbh the time before they shoot seems fine

[slender sand]

I use the menu

[toxic plank]

I send a couple flashes in then just rock her shit with pepper spray 😭

[slender sand]

it’s better

[stone bay]

Yea idk then why theyre only doing fall in

Maybe one is stuck on an object

[slender sand]

I feel like it’s just cause my squad is full of brain dead idiots who only give me power-ups

[stone bay]

It gets worse on modded maps but a lot of the time ai can get stuck in doors etc

[slender sand]

the only good thing about my squad is the fact I got 2 negotiators, 1 kicker and 1 intimidator

[stone bay]

and then if 1 is missing the others wont function

[slender sand]

I dont mod

[stone bay]

Do the perks even do anything

[slender sand]

only kicker

[stone bay]

I dont think half of them work

[slender cliff]

bro i got the same just instead of kicker i have a breacher

[slender sand]

1 kick to break any door

[stone bay]

Medic definitely doesnt

[lyric marsh]

once i tied her up then killed her with a breach shotty (it took 30 shots)

[slender sand]

medic is probably the worst

[toxic plank]

That’s horrible!
Do it again.

[stone bay]

i normally just play in practice mode

do everything through the simple mod menu

[lyric marsh]

the lineup you want in all cases is nutritionist armorer kicker and veteran

nutritionist-about 50 percent more hp
armorer-double armor durability
kicker-guaranteed 1 kick
veteran-reduced recoil (helpful bc the ai doesnt know how to burst they just spray)

[stone bay]

think i only played commander mode.lile once since it was added

mainly because im not a huge fan of most of RONs maps

[stone bay]

U missing out btw theres some really cool mods that make the game a lot better

Wont want to go back once youve tried them

[silk spear]

Paramedic is a 50% chance to save one downed officer according to an old reddit post so not a great coin toss.

Better to just not die in the first place

[warm flower]

Are the dlcs worth it if i liked the story

i know there’s only 3 missions per dlc. so are they short or something?

[fiery wraith]

Depending on your current team comp, I'd take it over something like SBAGS personally. If you're doing bad enough to lower morale, you're probably seeing dead officers.

[fiery wraith]

Totally subjective. For ten bucks you can't really go wrong, a movie ticket nowadays is like $20 without snacks.

[silk spear]

Mixed lengths and engagement locations. Very solid and good variety, 2nd DLC esspecially cause those have water entry points.

[warm flower]

bet guys thanks. i was going to get it anyway just wanted to see if it was quick or long missions. i like to take my time

[eager jackal]

I'm really struggling to find a good primary. I used to love the HK GA416 but it doesn't hit hard enough for me anymore. And most of the other guns I use feel like they're shooting marshmellows past 10 feet. Any suggestions? Secondaries are also accepted

[stone bay]

Anytjing in the assault rifle category

[eager jackal]

See, yes, however, I tried those. None of them feel right. Anything below 7.62 does next to no damage I feel because I've mag dumped people, and the 7.62 rifles are all too long. The F90 is just mediocre to me.

[stone bay]

Tried a shotgun w buckshot?

shotguns have good range

[eager jackal]

Yep, didn't hit the spot though

[stone bay]

Imo not really

You can get modded maps for free that are as good or better

If u dont mind spending the money sure but theyre nothing special

[eager jackal]

They're also obnoxiously hard, like, most of them have a soft timer because they execute civilians and have a minimum arrest requirement.

[silk spear]

They do? Only one of the 6 DLC's maps I know has a soft timer is the Yacht.

[warm flower]

like elephant?:/ hated that map

[eager jackal]

On Oil Rig I know that they start shooting civilians.

[warm flower]

as soon as they hear shi they start offing hostages

[stone bay]

And just bad map design imo

[eager jackal]

Yeah, they execute civilians if you take too long.

[fiery wraith]

Headshots or full auto. The lighter carbines are faster on target and have less recoil.

[warm flower]

in every single dlc map?

[eager jackal]

I love CQB while they have body armor.

[stone bay]

No not every

[eager jackal]

Not every one but a considerable amount.

[stone bay]

But all the maps are obnoxiously large too

[silk spear]

What's the timer? I never seen/had them shoot civvies when I did it in Commander

[eager jackal]

They like, shoot marshmellows though.

[stone bay]

The cruise ship map they execute civs

[eager jackal]

It's happened to me in Multiplayer. There's no set timer, but they do it.

[eager jackal]

And on the Oil Rig.

[ionic gale]

Yeah, in games, the range of shotgun are laughably under blown

[fiery wraith]

One tap to the head, and they go straight through soft armor.

[stone bay]

Didnt havebit on oil rig

[silk spear]

How do you feel bout Shotguns?

[ionic gale]

Mini games just make shotguns with dog shit range mostly because of balance

[eager jackal]

I've used them, they just don't have enough ammo for me tbh

[stone bay]

Yeah

[warm flower]

i am on sins of a father right now.

once i’ve completed the story i am going to get the dlcs

[ionic gale]

I like the shotguns personally

[eager jackal]

"Just hit the enemy across the map in the head, it's simple"
My brother in christ.

[stone bay]

Tf u doing if you need more 😭

Mans in fallujah

[eager jackal]

Killing people, because they shoot like waterguns.

[stone bay]

Or any of the endgame maps to be fair

[eager jackal]

Relapse is HELL

[stone bay]

The maps r just too big for me

[eager jackal]

This man hates Rust Belt

[silk spear]

Fair, some of the offical maps are really geared for a whole squad

[stone bay]

Ron would be a zillion times better if they invested in six days in fallujah style map generation

[ionic gale]

Ruat belt wasn’t too bad for me

[stone bay]

Randomized realistic sized maps

[ionic gale]

uh

[stone bay]

Apartments houses etc

[ionic gale]

that’s a take for sure

[eager jackal]

My #1 opp is arrest X person goals

[stone bay]

Not the openworld but instead of having 10 stupidly large maps

[stone bay]

How

Vanilla ron is boring after 2 play throughs you know whats going to happen

[ionic gale]

oh nothing, if that is what you believe then it’s fine

[stone bay]

U know which maps are trapped which maps have hostages

[ionic gale]

Yeah, it does get boring

[stone bay]

And where every objective is

Randomized maps would make it way more replayable

[ionic gale]

I play solo almost exclusively so the boredom does set in for me faster

I don’t have a dedicated group or anything like that to play with

And doing random lobbies is kind of a gamble

Still unsure why we still haven’t gotten a server browser 😔

[stone bay]

been tryna convert ron to swat4 recently

Swat 4 did the maps really well imo

Big enough to take a while but didnt feel unrealistic in size

[eager jackal]

If only it supported 1920x1080 screen size

[ionic gale]

swat 4 maps are popular mods for the game

[stone bay]

only like 3 work now

[ionic gale]

Also SWAT 4 is just a neat game

[stone bay]

The resr are outdated since 1.0

[ionic gale]

I play it with the elite force mod which is really popular

[stone bay]

tbhbsinfe 1.0 like half of this games best mods have been outdated

[ionic gale]

It’s basically considered the definitive way of playing SWAT 4

[ionic gale]

Yeah, especially with the UE 5 transition during 1.0, mods have been fucked

[stone bay]

And most of the authors dont want to continue supporting it

[ionic gale]

Or I think UE5 came with 1.0

[ionic gale]

It’s like Tarkov wipes

[stone bay]

All the voiceline guns and uniform mods are gone now except a couple

And a lot of maps and qol stuff

I kinda want to learn modding

Would love 2 try convert ron to be british

[ionic gale]

And with cross play coming to the console version that kind of makes me worried about if mods (like Nexus) is going to sort of be crippled

[stone bay]

change maps to be british etc

[ionic gale]

we 💖 the. CTSFO

[stone bay]

Hipefully that wont effect pc version

Honestly just minor stuff like replacing the vehicles outside with british cars

just retexturing/ map edits

voicelines and gear mods already exist if they ever get updated

[eager jackal]

Have your filthy G3

[fiery wraith]

Across the map? The game isn't really that long range. If you're getting into firefights that far out it might be a strategy issue. Try to stick to tight quarters and inside areas, then clear the exteriors in one long push while there aren't enemies shooting through windows.

[eager jackal]

Relapse halls. My #1 enemy are the long hallways that you literally can't avoid

[fiery wraith]

Grenade launcher.

Gas farther down the hall. Throw flashes at closer enemies. By the time you work your way down the hall and the gas is wearing off, flash again.

[eager jackal]

I prefer Shield. I know Grenades are better but I just prefer Shield

[fiery wraith]

You can mix and match. Use 5 to deploy ally launchers at cursor.

I like to pop out and sit in the middle of the hall with a shield, it gives me time to direct the teams separately.

[lofty coyote]

yall prefer green or black for swat

[ionic gale]

Black for urban stuff, Green for Forest

[fiery wraith]

Black for blue team, tan for red.

[ionic gale]

Ooh u color coding them

big brain move

[fiery wraith]

For playing with UI off x)

Not all gear pieces have glow sticks, so it's the only way with some looks.

[ionic gale]

owh

[clever quail]

How’s everyone doing. I’m mad excited for the console release I’ve been wanting to play this game since I was seeing it being talked about before full release

[silk spear]

For the "The Hermit" achievement, does firing officers count as 'losing a single officer'?

I'm seeing mixed yes and nos online

[slender sand]

AI is genuinely so broken, I was being shot, I gave the command fall in and cover and my squad went to go look for a random civilian, the ENTIRE squad.

I ended up dying while they all surrounded once civilian to restrain them

[tribal quiver]

yeah, it got fixed for the Dark Waters, but it's still shit on stuff Before DLC

[amber dock]

I’d venture to say yes

[frail pier]

True

[gaunt gale]

[stable kernel]

Guys

Did you see the new announcement about Ready or Not?

[frail pier]

Fake news

Vaporware

[dense spruce]

question

[amber dock]

answer

[dense spruce]

which map would most people say is the hardest? as in which map has hardest enemy ai. Hardest in terms of being most armoured, more accurate

[amber dock]

Greased palms is most universally hardest

For me personally it was more 3 letter triad

[frail pier]

IMO Elysian, But I can't stand how its layed out though.

[twin estuary]

Hey guys where can I terminate the livestream ? On the oil rig

[dense spruce]

i bloody hate that map

[frail pier]

Find the laptop, turn it off or shoot it. Either works

[dense spruce]

Elysian

wait what mission again

is elysian

[twin estuary]

Where is the laptop ? There is a table but no laptop like in a yt video

[frail pier]

Darkwater map
3 Letter Triad.

[ionic gale]

I have not played that mission

[frail pier]

Usually by the hostages that are already restrained

[ionic gale]

I like the map lore wise

[frail pier]

Same, I just hate pathing on it

[twin estuary]

Found it thanks 🙏🏻

[ionic gale]

Spoiler?

||USIA/Judge stuff along with the MLO||

[amber dock]

There’s 2 diff locations for it iirc

[dense spruce]

ngl

i think Elephant is hardest to S rank

purely because they start killing in like 3 mins

[amber dock]

idk about that one

[frail pier]

RNG doesn't make it hard, It's just quite annoying

The map itself is easy.

[dense spruce]

yea

but it would a gamble of ur time to complete it

[coral swan]

how does one beat relapse

im stuck on it

[dense spruce]

stuck on what aspect of it exactly

[coral swan]

like being instantly killed after openning doors

[dense spruce]

are u using ur ai or soloing

[coral swan]

ai

[dense spruce]

make sure u dont stand in front of doors, let them open/breach with throwables such as flashbang and stinger

[coral swan]

alr

[dense spruce]

also i'd recommend giving two or one of them a shield

or you could gas the freak out of the rooms

[coral swan]

ye i always give 2 a shield

[dense spruce]

with cs gas

[coral swan]

what guns should i use

[dense spruce]

what u using currently?

[coral swan]

SA-58 and five seven

[dense spruce]

honestly

any rifle/smg is fine as long as u have right attachments

shotguns are fun but kinda

[coral swan]

ye

[dense spruce]

not the best for all rooms

and i suggest u use the optiwand as ur tech slot

u will literally know how many enemies are in the room, their positions, guns, any civs, etc

[dense spruce]

although this can make gameplay a bit more boring

but if ur really struggling with multiple attempts then i suggest it

[coral swan]

ye i always use it

[dense spruce]

good

[ionic gale]

Yeah, it really boils down to what the mission needs

[coral swan]

then i give crew the gas and stuff

[dense spruce]

yes

[coral swan]

alr ima retry

[dense spruce]

gl

[coral swan]

im going to try using ceramic armor this time

i usually use only steel

[ionic gale]

A steel weighs down even though it does give you the most protection

Especially with heavy armor

[dense spruce]

i just use light armour w/ steel

[coral swan]

what spawn is best on relapse

[ionic gale]

Yes

[amber dock]

#👮ron-discussion message

[ionic gale]

If I do use heavy armor, it’s probably just with ceramic

[amber dock]

Steel is ass atm

[ionic gale]

Why is it?

[coral swan]

o ive only been using steel lol

[amber dock]

casue it's bugged atm

[ionic gale]

Does it not give the protection that it’s supposed to?

[dense spruce]

i usually go parking garage

[coral swan]

alr

[dense spruce]

cuz like you work ur way through reception

[amber dock]

#🎨ron-screenshots-and-art message

Kevlar and Steel are bugged atm

[dense spruce]

oh

[ionic gale]

Oh

Let’s all use ceramic 🤑

If I remember is ceramic the only plate type that could break?

[dense spruce]

doesnt kevlar break too?

iirc then steel is only one that doesnt break

[ionic gale]

Probably

I never use Kevlar

[naive isle]

dont ceramic and steel provide the same kind of protection, with the difference that ceramic breaks after some hits

[coral swan]

steel is broken

apparently

[ionic gale]

Steel & Kevlar are apparently broken at the moment so they don’t provide the protection that they’re supposed to

I never use Kevlar

I think it’s good for the early game

But other than that, you gotta upgrade to ceramic or steel

[naive isle]

i mean, "upgrade" they are all free

[ionic gale]

lol

Yeah, I know

Just if ceramic and steel plates are right there, I’m just gonna go for them

[indigo wolf]

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[ionic gale]

yah?

[indigo wolf]

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[dense spruce]

i had no idea stab vests existed in the game until now

[indigo wolf]

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[amber dock]

no

[indigo wolf]

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[naive isle]

no but the ratings on missions save between both

[indigo wolf]

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[naive isle]

no no no

meaning if you S rank it, its S in both

[indigo wolf]

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[naive isle]

yes

[indigo wolf]

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[naive isle]

@amber dock

oh

nevermind my condolences

[naive isle]

to be fair i dont know

[dense spruce]

a

[dense spruce]

be in the server long enough or contribute in the chat enough

idrk tho, that's a guess

[amber dock]

there's a issue atm with the server bot so you have to wait until the bot gets fixed or a mod has to manually give the role to you

[dense spruce]

how did u get sergeant

[ionic gale]

Being a good boy

[dense spruce]

ngl console support + cross-platform gonna be insane

[naive isle]

i dont realy get the hype around console, whats better about playing RON on console

[amber dock]

now you have role

[indigo wolf]

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[dense spruce]

it's not really about that

i don't think playing on console will ever come CLOSE to playing on PC

but many people will be able to access RoN and enjoy it

[amber dock]

its not about it being better on one platform over the other, it's about making the game accessible to as many people as possible

[indigo wolf]

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[ionic gale]

Getting more players on the game

[dense spruce]

exactly

also u can play with friends that don't have pcs but have console

[naive isle]

S ranking elephant

[dense spruce]

anyway, who knows, maybe void will somehow make playing on console and controller better somehow

[ionic gale]

Yeah, it’s like Minecraft

[ionic gale]

Apparently, steam controller support is actually pretty good

[ionic gale]

You can find Minecraft almost anywhere

[indigo wolf]

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[dense spruce]

it is? i heard controller on this game is kinda buns

[naive isle]

also free look kind of sucks, the way it returns to the normal camera position is not fast and snappy enough to be reliable

[ionic gale]

Dude, there’s a fucking Apple TV edition of Minecraft

[indigo wolf]

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[ionic gale]

That’s whatI’ve been hearing

[ionic gale]

I have to wonder if it’s just Rng at that point which would make S ranking it extremely difficult

[naive isle]

they can hide in certain spots which you gotta learn

you make a path that you follow each time then pray you didnt miss any

[amber dock]

controller works fine on PC, it has full support since like 1.0

[ionic gale]

If you’re desperate enough, you you’re going to have to complete it with a coordinated squad

[dense spruce]

is it kinda complicated tho?

[indigo wolf]

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[amber dock]

no?

[ionic gale]

If that’s one of the only ways that you have to S rank the mission then yeah it’s cooked

[indigo wolf]

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[ionic gale]

I would like to test out the consult controls when it eventually releases

[dense spruce]

lowkey, void adding difficulties to missions is amazing

[dense spruce]

you'd get to decide whether suspects wear vests, what weapons they brandish

[naive isle]

flash it

[ionic gale]

Also talking about Minecraft, therefore a split second

[indigo wolf]

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[dense spruce]

and their behaviour

[naive isle]

when in doubt, flash the room

[ionic gale]

There’s an Apple TV edition of Minecraft

[naive isle]

im thinking if i should make the officers not carry any ammo for secondaries so they stop shooting people with pistols

[dense spruce]

u can give them tasers

[indigo wolf]

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[amber dock]

They still will have secondary pistols

[ionic gale]

Dude, there’s finally gonna be a non-lethal secondary ever since the taser got moved as an equipment slot

that pepper ball pistol

[dense spruce]

yes

[amber dock]

taser isn't a secondary anymore it's in same place as flashbangs etc

[indigo wolf]

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[ionic gale]

yee ik

[naive isle]

is that treated as a secondary?

[dense spruce]

also, CS gas is goated for non-lethal

[ionic gale]

That reminds me of something

[dense spruce]

no, but they'd use it as alternative if pistols had no ammo i think

[naive isle]

some suspects have gas masks

[indigo wolf]

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[amber dock]

no, they will still swap to pistols

[ionic gale]

I remember that the gas masks that some suspect had was apparently only cosmetic and it did not actually protect them from CS gas

That was a bit strange and I thought about how that could probably be reverted

[dense spruce]

yeah, but on grand scheme of things most suspects don't

[ionic gale]

I don’t know if this was changed sometime during dark waters or whatever

[ionic gale]

I’ve been told that CS gas apparently seems to have no effect

[naive isle]

some do, thats enough for me to call it an unreliable tactic

so i stick to flashbangs

[ionic gale]

I think I seen this when I play as well, granted it’s been a while since I played regularly so it could’ve definitely changed

[indigo wolf]

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[dense spruce]

last time i played with CS they were gasping for non existant oxygen and couldn't shoot me

[ionic gale]

The gas mask ones?

It’s interesting why the gas mask suspects are affected by CS gas

[dense spruce]

what was even the logic for one of them deciding, "yeah, i'll bring a gas mask"

[dense spruce]

normal ones, but now that i reflect on it i don't believe gas masks affect them

[indigo wolf]

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[dense spruce]

for some reason gas mask suspects decide to bring gas masks without filters or smth

[coral swan]

bro why is the ai on relapse so over powered

[indigo wolf]

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[dense spruce]

maybe they literally brought it to cover their face and thats it, stupid either way

[coral swan]

is there like a way to skip relapse

[dense spruce]

stupid considering it would suck to have impaired vision and a weight on ur head which could be replaced with smth much lighter

[indigo wolf]

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[coral swan]

i did

[indigo wolf]

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[coral swan]

fr

[indigo wolf]

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[tribal quiver]

how do to The Fool?

[dense spruce]

killing quadamah isn't canon route

[indigo wolf]

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[coral swan]

will the ai in relapse ever be nerfed

they are so overpowered

[indigo wolf]

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[tribal quiver]

the wife or kid?

[coral swan]

i shoot them twice and they dont even die

[indigo wolf]

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[dense spruce]

difficulties are coming with next update i think

[coral swan]

thank god i hate relapse so much

when is the next update

[indigo wolf]

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[dense spruce]

i assume difficulty will affect the suspects' ai, behaviour, armour, weapons, and ammunition

[coral swan]

literally greased palms is easier than relapse

[ionic gale]

During the console release in the summer

[coral swan]

o

[dense spruce]

diabolical statement..

greased palms makes me wanna do smth bad'

[indigo wolf]

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[dense spruce]

is it just me or do i find mindjot data center mission kinda stupid despite knowing lore of it

[indigo wolf]

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[coral swan]

greased palms was not fun but relapse is way worse

[dense spruce]

i understand they were robbed by criminals dressed as swat officers, but was there NO WAY of confirming that real lspd officers were going to raid it

in the end, it cost like a dozen innocent security officers' lives

[indigo wolf]

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[dense spruce]

if u go lethal

[naive isle]

unless you used less than leathal

[coral swan]

is there like a mod or something to skip relapse

[dense spruce]

let ai do all the work

[indigo wolf]

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[dense spruce]

and use a grenade on every room with suspects until u run out of them

[indigo wolf]

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[dense spruce]

yea, although denying police search is kinda just

stupid

i mean, you're telling me there was NO WAY to absolutely confirm it was police

prehand atleast

couldn't they have just shown them a warrant even?

[indigo wolf]

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[dense spruce]

idk, anything to avoid a swat raid

[dense spruce]

wdym

[indigo wolf]

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[dense spruce]

could u state an example?

of what's changed or whatever

[indigo wolf]

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[dense spruce]

well

considering the missions span across multiple years i believe

it means the situation in los suenos changes too

[ionic gale]

Think he’s talking about the evidence from him being opened up and such like that

[indigo wolf]

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[dense spruce]

oh

[dense spruce]

🤷🏻 there's more instances in the map

[indigo wolf]

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[dense spruce]

.

i was murked from seemingly invisible ppl blending in the bushes

or it was skill issue, probably combination

that map was lowkey terrifying tho

i remember first hearing some chanting-like sound from their chapel or whatever it is behind the villa

i thought they would all be praying and bowing to the blood god and giving sacrifices

[indigo wolf]

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[dense spruce]

whats that map again?

meth house, right

meh,

it was dark and gloomy i suppose

btw what does toc stand for

oh

[warm flower]

also why can’t u shoot out locks on wood doors

[warm flower]

yes

[warm flower]

navy seals i think

[ionic gale]

Tactical Operations Command

[dense spruce]

i cant decide whether hide and seek or valley of the dolls is more disturbing

[warm flower]

i haven’t played either yet 😳

[dense spruce]

mm that's

[warm flower]

im on neon tomb

[dense spruce]

what?

[ionic gale]

The CP thing is what makes valley disturbing

[warm flower]

the map neon tomb

[dense spruce]

that's impossible

if u didnt play the other ones

[warm flower]

hokd on let me vhdck

[ionic gale]

I find that hide and seek is a bit more creepy because of the spider organization that we don’t know shit about

[dense spruce]

spider is also horrific because of the idea of it

[warm flower]

oh ive played valley of dolls

[dense spruce]

imagine sending ur kid to a talent center

[warm flower]

i didn’t really like that one tbf

[dense spruce]

only to not understand what it actually is

[warm flower]

ides of match was fun

[ionic gale]

Tbf, the people who signed their kids up for very struggling families if you know the lore

[dense spruce]

oh true

they were mostly vulnerable families looking for money

[warm flower]

greased palms was also very fun

[ionic gale]

I mean the map is literally the entrance of LS’s Skid Row adaptation

[dense spruce]

hide and seek auction room was disgusting

[ionic gale]

yee

[twilit mulch]

most of them were drug addicts

[warm flower]

twisted nerve was the one i got stuck on the most

[ionic gale]

Oh yeah, that too…

[dense spruce]

they also had that hose weapon that the women were punished with

[ionic gale]

I don’t want to know what the fuck that hose would’ve been used for

[dense spruce]

and those women would've been kept in capitivity for months travelling across the world

[ionic gale]

Dude, you could see freaking dog cages or even dog food being fed to the women

In valley of the dolls case you can see the barrels that has children clothes in the basement

I think it’s well known that those are most likely the decomposed bodies of children and damn

[dense spruce]

dialogue from FISA also shows how the government is messed up

[twilit mulch]

as horrific as that is, nothing beats the Voll House or realisation there that there's a CP ring operating in Los Suenos for centuries!

[ionic gale]

yuh

One

[dense spruce]

when u open the container and they tell u to stand down

there's a detail in hide and seek even

when u initially enter the auction room, on laptops u can see anonymous bidders

[ionic gale]

The spider is just a strange organization

[dense spruce]

they immediately disconnect, but it suggests an auction or event would've went on around the time of the raid

most reasonable enemies in the game imo are the veterans

most stupid ones are the environmental dudes

[ionic gale]

The carrier of the vines women imo (not the two main suspects)

[dense spruce]

they literally go against their values and morales with using weapons and such

[ionic gale]

A lot of the women join the cult because they were abused by men

[ionic gale]

I thought they were also anti-human?

Meaning that they really don’t give a fuck about any human life

[dense spruce]

oh? i thought they used to be an environmental group that completely lost all its core elements as an environmental group

i can defo see how they would use the oil rig as an excuse to justify their actions

[ionic gale]

Again, the Vineyard called of women can also have a little bit of sympathy, not the main suspect just the randos

In the lore, a lot of the women joined the cult to have some sort of community where they can talk about their abuse by men and shit like that

[dense spruce]

those women probably just seeked care

[ionic gale]

Yeah, exactly and they got tangled up into the cult

[twilit mulch]

they've all been r*ped

[ionic gale]

In the basement of the chapel, you can even see a bunch of weird ass dungeon, torture stuff that definitely could’ve been used to torture some dudes

[dense spruce]

which made them turn a blind eye to their actions

[ionic gale]

Yeah

[brazen nexus]

is the giveaway in announcements working for you guys?

[amber dock]

you need role to use it

[dense spruce]

although, i'm pretty sure they target r*pists and men they themselves have been graped by

[brazen nexus]

how do i get the role

[ionic gale]

Also, the Asian immigrant family and ends of the Earth is also just sad

They got they had to do some bad business in order to pay for their mother’s cancer treatment

[dense spruce]

yuh

[ionic gale]

I’m going non-lethal for the brothers man

[twilit mulch]

that might've been the case but again they shot two police officers prior to SWAT arrival

[brazen nexus]

didnt really care for that map

[dense spruce]

crazy

[amber dock]

You have to wait for server to give you or a mod has to manually add role for you. The server bot that adds the role is bit broken right now so some people don't get roles

[dense spruce]

and they buried them

[brazen nexus]

felt like there were too many enemies for one household

[ionic gale]

It’s mostly just the story that rides it home

[twilit mulch]

yes

[ionic gale]

Gameplay is different from story

[brazen nexus]

true

[dense spruce]

i kinda understand why they opened fire on the officers

like, they wanted to keep 'punishing' the guilty men and the police would've just stopped that

[twilit mulch]

worst part, in all those missions, the SWAT is merely a tip of the spear pointed towards a crisis. Resolving those doesn't even put a dent into the big picture and major organised crime

[brazen nexus]

should i dm a mod to do it? assuming i should just wait

[ionic gale]

Elaine also was Ex-USIA

[twilit mulch]

aye

[amber dock]

I would not do that, I'd advise just wait. You still got a long time to partake in giveaway

[brazen nexus]

true

[ionic gale]

She seems to know about Judge

Gerard,Elaine & Judge are interesting to me

Just Judge’s theory about him being a planted USIA sleeper agent or something

[twilit mulch]

couldn't agree more

[dense spruce]

there's like, no backstory on judge

[ionic gale]

The new dark Waters map that has the hotel island expands on this

[brazen nexus]

about to play COTV

[dense spruce]

judge's childhood was defo involved with government

[brazen nexus]

should i bring laser or flashlight?

[twilit mulch]

what did such a highly trained person such as Judge do for the USIA and what made him switch to LSPD SWAT

[ionic gale]

Yeah, it’s strange

[brazen nexus]

i dont run NVGs ever

[ionic gale]

Flashlight then

[brazen nexus]

got it

[ionic gale]

One theory I heard about is that the USIA is using Judge or something like that as an experiment for a “super SWAT member”

[brazen nexus]

there are door traps in that one right

[brazen nexus]

ive seen that, it is my favorite theory

[ionic gale]

A swat member that would not compromise his job over emotions and would just get the work done

[twilit mulch]

could be, but there's nothing as of yet to confirm or even point in that direction

[dense spruce]

imagine finding out ur experiment blew up himself and his whole team on a door

[amber dock]

no

[ionic gale]

Yeah, it’s just a fun theory for now

[twilit mulch]

also, Judge's other team members are highly professional

[ionic gale]

But yeah, if anything is true out of that plot, Judge definitely has some ties to the USIA

[brazen nexus]

really? no traps in carriers of the vine?

[twilit mulch]

that's pointed out in Sullivan's slope

[amber dock]

no?

[ionic gale]

Yee

[dense spruce]

how come

[brazen nexus]

hm

i thought there were

[ionic gale]

Didn’t Gerard want to warn Judge or something like that

[twilit mulch]

you can see pictures of his teammembers

[ionic gale]

The two are connected

[twilit mulch]

in his own distorted way, yes

[dense spruce]

gerard is the veteran leader right?

[twilit mulch]

he's a former USIA

[ionic gale]

He is the crazy bush guy in Sullivan Slope

[twilit mulch]

yes 😂

[ionic gale]

He retreats to his cabin after burning down the police car and shooting officers

[dense spruce]

wait what group are the dudes in sullivans slope?

aint it the veterans too?

[ionic gale]

Gerard and his accomplices

[dense spruce]

oh

[ionic gale]

No, no the veterans are not there

[twilit mulch]

killing six police officers only to bait Judge into coming to his house

[ionic gale]

Yeah he did that on purpose to bait d platoon

[dense spruce]

The Lost

[ionic gale]

I don’t know exactly why

[dense spruce]

isn't that the name of the group?

[twilit mulch]

some of the lore was removed after 1.0 came out

[ionic gale]

Gerard and his accomplices have no connection to the veterans they are their own group

[twilit mulch]

aye

[ionic gale]

The left behind

[brazen nexus]

what was his deal

[dense spruce]

oh

[brazen nexus]

why does he have no pants on

[ionic gale]

He’s connected to the entire USIA and judge conspiracy theory

[brazen nexus]

no i know

[dense spruce]

altruistic or smth

idk

[ionic gale]

It seems like that he was making some sort of chemical weapons in the basement

I don’t know what he would’ve been using them for

[brazen nexus]

oh no im aware

i wonder why he has no pants on

[ionic gale]

It seems like that he tried to bait d platoon into meeting him

[brazen nexus]

like hes got the bush uniform on the top but no pants

[ionic gale]

lul

[dense spruce]

chemical terrorists could be interesting group to face off

[ionic gale]

Ye

[dense spruce]

considering you'd be forced to wear gas masks, and they'd use chemicals more

[twilit mulch]

u mean the eco terrorists?

[dense spruce]

no, like just as an idea

[twilit mulch]

oh, a new "faction"

[ionic gale]

In terms of Gerard, he mostly is a solo dude who had his own motives

[dense spruce]

some sort of group that uses chemicals

[twilit mulch]

right

[brazen nexus]

i always wear gas masks when raiding the meth houses and the woods house

[twilit mulch]

cartel could fit in there

[brazen nexus]

just for realism

[dense spruce]

rust belt is interesting only cuz

i find it crazy how an entire bloody cave system connected two sides of the border

such a crazy way for immigrants to get over

[twilit mulch]

even better, that cave system was used by a long gone indigenous people

[ionic gale]

The new faction black sentinel is weird

[twilit mulch]

archeologists would love that shite

[brazen nexus]

abt to get COTV done

[dense spruce]

whats that?

[brazen nexus]

pray for me

[brazen nexus]

my least favorite map

[twilit mulch]

the PMC in the Elysian mission

[ionic gale]

They are a mysterious organization for now that has members of ex mercenary, military, and even government like the USIA

[brazen nexus]

doesnt make sense for D platoon to do that mission instead of USBP

[ionic gale]

That entire mission was really sketch if you go into the media and shit like that about the lore

[dense spruce]

i think it was co-joint operation since that area of the border was in the same state

[twilit mulch]

and there's that USIA connection again. This is almost off the books for the LSPD doing a favour to the USIA

[dense spruce]

idk, that's like the only explanation

[ionic gale]

What was the package? Who is the doctor? Why is there an MLO listening room? Why did the USIA talk to Judge directly?

lots of questions that have not been really answered yet

[twilit mulch]

the "bomb" is a fake

[dense spruce]

there's also LSPD raiding the rig instead of like

[twilit mulch]

Coast guard

[dense spruce]

yeah

[ionic gale]

Yeah, that was extremely weird

[dense spruce]

I mean the coast guard worked with them

[twilit mulch]

somebody in the shadows wants to overwhelm the LSPD with work

[dense spruce]

infact, there's a coast guard boat in the training facility in the police station

[ionic gale]

Pretty sure that you guys heard of Shane?

[dense spruce]

with some instructor telling units how to use it

[ionic gale]

He’s been making lore videos about this game for a bit now

[twilit mulch]

department is understaffed but well equiped with weapons. You can hear sergeants in the gun range complaining how they have no space to store all the newly received weaponary

[dense spruce]

shut up shane?

[twilit mulch]

ye

[ionic gale]

yas

[dense spruce]

i watch him

[ionic gale]

Some men die of thirst

The LSPD is dying of drowning 🤑

[dense spruce]

also i think there's a huge problem with air quality in the training facility since it's underground and poorly ventilated

[twilit mulch]

that was before the 1.0

[dense spruce]

so officers get health issues

"Los Suenos, city of dreams." yeah no

[twilit mulch]

aye, that was before 1.0. It's been removed since. The headquarters are still not in ideal condition of course

[ionic gale]

The police station is a revamped train station

you can especially see it in the range

[twilit mulch]

or kill house

[dense spruce]

los suenos lowkey just a wreck

[twilit mulch]

all in all, D platoon is overachieving and that must be pissing off whomever is working from the shadows

[dense spruce]

i wonder how other parts of the USA look in this universe

[ionic gale]

It’s Pittsburgh, Detroit, LA & Chicago that has been mashed into a unholy obelisk of a city

[twilit mulch]

apparently they're in better shape and LS is a testing ground

[ionic gale]

Yeah, the people in the shadows is extremely interesting

[dense spruce]

and then that storm hits in home invasion to make it worse

[twilit mulch]

nobody ever gives credit to the detectives who bring these cases to SWAT

[ionic gale]

Punching down on LS making it a shitty place to live for an intentional reason

[twilit mulch]

well, I say bring it on. We, the LSPD SWAT, will resolve it all and arrest all!

[dense spruce]

*gets murked in the first room he enters

[twilit mulch]

I've got all achievements unlocked, nothing murks me

[dense spruce]

what's the lore for greased palms again

why did SWAt have to come

and why was a fisa agent working with the criminals again?

[twilit mulch]

FISA agent assigned to the post office was letting guns and drugs through customs

[dense spruce]

and as for the armed guys?

[twilit mulch]

forcing some employees to do the same

they're cartel

[ionic gale]

Some cartel dudes

[dense spruce]

why was he assigned to a postal office anyway

[twilit mulch]

customs I suppose. Postal service is federal so...

falls under FISA's purview

[dense spruce]

2 new maps coming

[twilit mulch]

can't wait

hope more achievements come with them

[dense spruce]

one also located in the water

[twilit mulch]

we need a shopping mall map

[dense spruce]

although, considering the yacht would be closer to coast it makes sense for lspd

whats the 2nd map?

[twilit mulch]

no idea

[dense spruce]

mystery

[twilit mulch]

we'll find out eventually

imagine all the new evidence and story that come with the new maps!

[dense spruce]

difficulties are such good quality of life

like, if u wanna use pistols and lower calibers, u can set to lower difficulty and you won't be fighting master chief

[ionic gale]

I don’t know how the difficulty is going to affect the missions

[dense spruce]

i'd assume it will affect enemy count, enemy behaviour, ai, armour, weapons, and ammo

[ionic gale]

Maybe the some or all suspect won’t have armor? Maybe they’ll have less powerful weapon, weapons like handguns and shotguns?

Or maybe it’s just simply an AI thing where they’re just made incredibly stupid

[dense spruce]

and also maybe morale

[ionic gale]

That would be cool

[full shore]

Need higher damage multipliers. We are way too tanky right now

[dense spruce]

personally affecting their equipment is best alternative

i think their behaviours should also be changed

if they're supposed to be more trained, they'd be more accurate, use tactics and cover more etc

there would probably be one canon difficulty, being normal or smth

where their behaviour and equipment would match lore

[stone bay]

tbh 90% of missions dont make sense for D platoon

but i guess the lore is everything is cooked so they do everything

[dense spruce]

Its part od the lore perhaps

[stone bay]

at minimum most of the game would be HRT maybe even national guard if not even military intervention

considering most of the campaign is also like ruby ridge levels of events lol

[dense spruce]

Judge is very interesting character and intertwined with government background

Soo idk

[stone bay]

the only feasable argument is theyre all ex cia or whatever it is in ron lore

[ionic gale]

Yeah, he’s the only officer of the platoon that is actually fleshed out

[stone bay]

And theyre just a full on sf team

otherwise its just game limitations really

[dense spruce]

Maybe

Theres only so many scenarios to deal with in a city

[stone bay]

No I mean that most missions arent realistically smth a D sq would be doing but it also wouldnt make sense to have you and your team working as different groups

Cant be Swat 1 mission HRT another and then bortac in the next one

[dense spruce]

Secret USIA type stuff going on i tell ya

[coral swan]

thank god i finally finished relapse