👮ron-discussion

[umbral oar]

slugs will drop with 1 bullet on most armor

what map was it?

[feral hull]

Sins of the father

[umbral oar]

oh yeah some of those guys eat slugs

[feral hull]

Don’t know what fucking coke or crack these ai’s are on 😭

[feral hull]

Very realistic

Absolutely

[umbral oar]

they rock level 4

[feral hull]

Mf I need a whole 50 BMG rifle for they’re asses

[eager walrus]

No visible armour either

Not enough bulk for vest below the shirt either

[umbral oar]

tuff, i just aim for arms when i expect armor

[dusty wing]

Getting back into ron after a few months away... are the two DLCs solid?

[tiny quail]

Yeah if you're craving for more borderline bullshit wallhacking tomfoolery

[umbral oar]

i honestly haven’t seen that problem in so long

[tiny quail]

that aside, pretty good maps, dorms is uh... there, narcos might be my favorite solely because of the layout and story, lawmaker is big for no reason

mirage at sea is another active shooter so meh for me, leviathan is great, 3 letter triad is lawmaker 2.0 and 20 suspects

[barren yew]

anyone know what the mod is called that unlocks all the hidden weapons

[eager walrus]

Narcos is the houses right?

[tiny quail]

yea with the tortured dude

[dusty wing]

Thanks, ended up doing some - the yacht one felt deceptively large for sure but overall decent

[tiny quail]

yacht is pretty cool, i just hate that it can turn into active shooter which is giving me elephant ptsd

[hard walrus]

Oh i love how i get friendly fire when i throw a FLASH

Ruined my entire S run

HOWS IT EVEN FRIENDLY FIRE

IT DIDNT HURT ANYONE

[tiny quail]

oh but when good boy prescott does it it's fine smh

[hard walrus]

Legit did a good throw into a room

Friendly Fire on all of them

I HAD 2-3 SUSPECTS LEFT ON FARM

[stone bay]

Whats the MPL based off of?

[tacit gull]

The Walther MPL

[stone bay]

insert patrick star with a jug on his head ohhhh

because i saw it in this one ready or not wallpaper i use

[tacit gull]

The MPL was supposed to be in the game and it is a real gun

The suspects still have it actually

[stone bay]

I thought that was the M76

wait grat do u wanna see the artwork im talking about

[tacit gull]

sure

and the suspects also have the gustaf yeah

[prisma tusk]

the suspects do indeed have a carl gustaf recoilless rifle

[stone bay]

lol

[sour sandal]

The M60 should be in the game. The LAPD has 2

[tacit gull]

no

[sour sandal]

?

[lost inlet]

M60 or M16?

[eager walrus]

But let’s have SCARs, outdated battle rifles, an Australian bullpup rifle, because those make sense

[tacit gull]

Most of those are essentially used as marksman rifles, -minues the f90

Yet none of them have an ammo capacity of over 30

[misty karma]

anyone want to play?

[robust yarrow]

New maps are fun and unique

[tacit gull]

dark waters atleast has some really unique maps

I could personally take or leave home invasion

[robust yarrow]

Narcos was very unique in its concept and layout, tho it reminded me too much of that mission in the new MW2

[tacit gull]

It's like the one notable map in that DLC

lawmaker is a massive nothing of a map and dorms is an interesting concept but it doesn't play that well rn

[robust yarrow]

Yeah tbh lawmaker and dorms are meh but I do like the atmosphere in dorms

I think lawmaker would be more fun if it was smaller scaled

Home invasion should've been THE small cqb map dlc in general

[tacit gull]

They're hinting that they're gonna do small map in the next mission pack, but.... 🙄

[spring knoll]

i’m trying to write about dorms rn but i have so little to say

it’s a visually pretty map but is there really anything substantial about its story or layout

[spring knoll]

where’d they say that

[tiny quail]

if anything its a great introductory mission (and dlcs in general)

sets the theme and tone right with the atmosphere of city post hurricane

[spring knoll]

i suppose so but i’m really not a fan of the religious crazy drug cult setup

feels like it’s been done before and better

[tiny quail]

man you can't have shit in los suenos the abandoned homeless crackhouse got a church now???

[spring knoll]

also am i stupid or does narcos take place in the same location / nearby to twisted nerve

since they say it’s 213 park

[clever hull]

Anyone have tips for elephant, my only successful run (where I didn’t die) I got an F

[spring knoll]

speedrun it. there are always 2 in the left wing and 2 in the right wing.

if you don’t go fast enough they start executing civilians

defuse the bombs after the shooters are down because the timer is very generous

[clever hull]

How should I manage my ai squad

Should I just put them in formation to follow me?

[spring knoll]

so enter from the blue block, clear that, go upstairs, clear the yellow classrooms, then cross the main entrance area and do the same thing in reverse in the auditorium / green classrooms area

[spring knoll]

pretty much, yeah. it takes too long for them to do other stuff like stack up.

[clever hull]

What formation do you recommend

[spring knoll]

you can press Z while looking at a civ or suspect to get the AI to restrain them, which can save time.

uhh i usually go for double but since it’s mostly hallways they’ll probably be forced into single file anyway

it’s on the easier end of maps if you remember their spawns since it’s a guaranteed suspect count with a limited number of possible locations

[clever hull]

So start left, go through the 3 floors, go right, clear the 3 floors. And they usually keep hostages in classrooms?

[spring knoll]

it’s two floors

but yeah pretty much that

you know how the main entrance has a dying security guard?

[clever hull]

Yeah

Do you ever recommend the north exit spawn?

[spring knoll]

go through the left, clear blue classrooms. go up. clear the 2-3 classrooms there. cross the main entrance area from the 2nd floor (it connects the two blocks). clear the second floor of that block. go down and clear the first, either via library stairs or the auditorium.

[spring knoll]

not really, because going from the left side usually guarantees a shooter nearby somewhere near the blue classrooms.

[clever hull]

Can I command a team member to defuse bombs?

[spring knoll]

if you do multiplayer you can split into pairs and do the mission super quickly. if not you’ll have to go pretty fast.

[wraith arrow]

why the 7.62 kick so hard?

[spring knoll]

unfortunately not iirc, but the timer’s really long so it shouldn’t be a problem once you remember where they are.

they’re also easy to spot

[wraith arrow]

I just shoot a gun of that caliber and it goes to the sky

[spring knoll]

are you on full auto

iirc 7.62 trades off harder control with more power but i may be wrong

[wraith arrow]

NEVER

always in semi

[tacit gull]

it depends on the gun

you can use the mk17 which is just dogwater

or the hk51 which has less recoil than some 5.56 rifles and SMGs

[wraith arrow]

All weapons have horrible recoil

I fire a bullet and the barrel is now pointing to the sky

and that I control the recoil with the mouse

[tacit gull]

that's a skill issue straight up

[wraith arrow]

[tacit gull]

the g36 has like no recoil

it's tarkov level

[wraith arrow]

I just came from using it

[tacit gull]

you did what?

[wraith arrow]

the gun fella

automatic translator

[tacit gull]

[wraith arrow]

I just came from using the gun

[spring knoll]

you what

[novel kraken]

is there a roadmap of development that players can follow

[tacit gull]

no

[novel kraken]

welp

[spring knoll]

also

[novel kraken]

would you guys think a medic system would ever be made

[tacit gull]

no

[novel kraken]

y

[spring knoll]

i think we should be able to extract / escort injured officers or civs out but i doubt that’d ever happen

[novel kraken]

^^^

dragging like in the trailer

[tacit gull]

Trailers were supposed to be that but they barely got implemented at all

[novel kraken]

fair

[eager walrus]

Best void can do is post an AI survey that they’ll definitely take feedback from after having their fingers in their ears since release

[tacit gull]

Dragging is confirmed never happening

[lost inlet]

GET OUT

[spring knoll]

unlucky

[novel kraken]

just make a new longtactical and itll be a medic system or sum

[eager walrus]

It ain’t that kind of game

[tacit gull]

yeah, this isn't arma

[spring knoll]

why are you acting like they didnt nerf the AI into the ground after the multitudes whined about aimbot john wick AI for months after release

[tacit gull]

(not even arma has dragging by default lmao)

[novel kraken]

dragging a low taper

[eager walrus]

Half assed “fine fuck stop bitching” fix

Did nothing about any of the core issues with the AI

[tacit gull]

The new squad behaviours are a step in the right direction

[novel kraken]

whats wrong with the ai

they looked fine to me

[spring knoll]

i think the new ai is very serviceable
they just need to not be dogshit at shooting anything

[novel kraken]

its cuz of commander mode i think

needs a perk to improve something

[spring knoll]

its certainly leagues better than before behaviour wise

[shy tulip]

Idk man, if you look at the forums, I still see people full struggling

[spring knoll]

i dont really have too many problems with them beyond a couple of bugs and the awful aim

[shy tulip]

someone said that no matter what map they go into they get squad wiped in the first few rooms (in COOP)

[spring knoll]

i still think a majority of complaints are people expecting to play this game like a horde shooter or something

[eager walrus]

All the new mocap animations they went on about

Don’t play

[tacit gull]

Cause they're not in the game

[spring knoll]

like no shit if you don’t clear corners or flash in or go in properly and wander into a big room you’re going to get mowed down

[tacit gull]

The animation update is still coming

[eager walrus]

Issue was on long maps they’d instantly beam you the nanosecond you enter “los” which was a pixel sized hole in the fucken geometry half the time

[spring knoll]

i’m talking about current ai

[tacit gull]

That was fixed a while ago

[spring knoll]

old ai was obviously overkill

[eager walrus]

Still watches you through the map

[spring knoll]

new ai is literally like harmless

[tacit gull]

They don't, they follow sound

[spring knoll]

they only do this if you yell or make a notable sound

you can watch your own replays to confirm this

[tacit gull]

They do have 360 vision however

[spring knoll]

froma limited distance

[tacit gull]

That is just undeniable

[eager walrus]

Oh replays work?

[tacit gull]

Shouldn't be a thing from ant distance

[spring knoll]

i’ve snuck up behind them a decent amount till they get close

[eager walrus]

I love enemies popping in and out of existence at long range too

[spring knoll]

i think it’s a balancing thing because there are currently no effective melee takedowns

and the range is small enough for me to be okay with it

[spring knoll]

yes

[eager walrus]

Does the ai patrol yet?

[spring knoll]

they bug out when not visible on screen but their locations are generally quite accurate

[eager walrus]

Or is it just static

[tacit gull]

I'm definetly not, taking advantage of surprising enemies is basically not a thing because of it

[spring knoll]

the ai has always patrolled yes

[eager walrus]

They’ve been standing in the exact same spot every time I play a mission for the past two years

[tacit gull]

As the ai will just turn to face you instantly and if they're hostile you might aswell tap them

[spring knoll]

maybe because you aggro them

[spring knoll]

i will concede that catching someone from behind is not nearly as effective as it should be

[eager walrus]

So aggroing the enemy should make them stand out in the open staring at the player through a wall

[spring knoll]

the game could also just use a force arrest on a stunned npc because waiting for animations to wear off or finish is annoying

[spring knoll]

usually sound alerting an enemy makes them go to investigate or run away

[tacit gull]

Animations can be interrupted by surrenders at any point (it looks terrible, but it works)

[spring knoll]

yeah my point is it looks kinda ass

and also there’s that bug where some people will never surrender no matter how much you stun and yell at them so a force arrest would be a functional enough bandaid

does breaking your legs / arms actually affect your speed / aim at all btw

[eager walrus]

loads into greased palms

Ai are shouting at NPCs across the map before I even spawn

loads into gas station

ai swat are shooting over my shoulder

[eager walrus]

I believe breaking your leg might slow you down but no arm damage does nothing afaik

[tacit gull]

recoil can get bad with broken arms but the legs each give like 5% speed red

[spring knoll]

i see

yeah it’s really not noticeable whatsoever

[jolly verge]

Each hit on your leg reduce speed by 2.5% up to 10% (both red leg dont share speed) penalty
Arm injury increase angle recoil, but removes every time you bandage

[spring knoll]

👍

[eager walrus]

Enemies don’t peek corners lmao

Just walk around the corner and snap 90 degrees

[tacit gull]

Thing is that didn't use to be a problem, the force arrest might make less lethals too broken

[eager walrus]

Directional audio I feel needs to be addressed as well

[plain python]

Get shot at once
“Alright fucker time to get Swiss cheesed”

[tired jungle]

Yes

[craggy swan]

Whats the best rifle ingame

[jolly verge]

Best for what?

[craggy swan]

Yes

[craggy swan]

For room clearing ingame

[jolly verge]

Then DM4, this is the shortest rifle

You can walk in doorframes without raising your weapon

[craggy swan]

Recoil sucks with it

[jolly verge]

No wonder, it's the same as ga416

If you want least recoil use G36C, F90, MCX, ARN18, G51, G3A3 with sfmb and vertical/th grip

[craggy swan]

Why do they recoil so much though xD i have some of these guns irl and they dont recoil like this irl

[narrow geode]

My teammate dropped their shield
And i picked it up
Now i have both battering ram and a shield
How does that work

[robust yarrow]

LVAR my beloved

[chrome tartan]

Whats the go with DMing a Mod member

[tired jungle]

Expected from 556 pdw tbh tbh

It's not too bad just..get used to it

But you know the muzzle device of the ddm4 directs the blast directly forward so that you don't injure your fingers holding the gun

You'll probably feel that

[frail pier]

It's .300BLK lol

[tired jungle]

I forget

Anyway, rifle cartridge pdw

[frail pier]

Thank you bot for stopping indigos hate messages

[tired jungle]

Not a 9mm

[tired jungle]

I wanted to say 9mm is a 🐱 round

[frail pier]

Mods ban him

[tiny quail]

mods send this man to greased palms

[robust yarrow]

Mods grease his palms

[torn swallow]

.

[unborn pelican]

Why is greased palms so hated

[amber dock]

Cause of how annoying and tough it is

[unborn pelican]

I finished it on the first try on my first playthrough

[amber dock]

Should maybe clarify S ranking it

Cause of every nook and cranny of holes that you get sniped through

Going lethal makes it super easy

Any map is easy if you do it illegally by shooting everything. Doing it like actual cops is another question

[tiny quail]

as one user would describe it here

"The goddamn cardboard boxes are speaking spanish"

[narrow geode]

Port is worse

[tiny quail]

the container speaks "take these off, american assholes!"

[narrow geode]

Impossible to see who's shooting at you from where
They will always catch you in the open too where there is nowhere to take cover

[tiny quail]

The close quarter container part is cool, but the run across literal open spaces is not

And don't get me started on the warehouse

It's literally postal area from greased palms again

[narrow geode]

I was about to lose my mind while trying to get C for the vest

[tiny quail]

same lol

the shits we do for a vest in this game

[narrow geode]

And its just a combination of the default vests with camo
Though
It still looks good

[tiny quail]

the s rank for valley was worth it because i get to wear hawaiian shirts

[narrow geode]

Good thing i dont like that shirt
Wouldnt have been a fun experience otherwise

[robust yarrow]

The sorting area is extremely dangerous as there's tons of overlapping angles and corners suspects peek through, there's also long sightlines front the FISA office area where you can get full auto sniped through a cheese grater

There's also tons of obstacles within the sightlines and you usually end up getting banged through them

For those reasons it's very easy to die on this map especially if you're not familiar with the layout, hence why it's hated

[unborn pelican]

Valley of dolls was the most painful mission for me

I died 3 times to the last remaining enemy

[vague isle]

i accidentally shot my teammate

[unborn pelican]

Kiss his wound

[dawn coyote]

When i play RoN my fps is stable 80 - 90 but when i open the doors it will lag and my fps will drop to 5 fps

[vague isle]

cant, already got 28 bullet holes

cause i mistakened him for the enemy

LIKE DAWG STAY WITH THE TEAM YOU KNOW YOUR LEADER HAS THE MOTTO OF SHOOT ANYTHING THAT MOVES BUT FRIENDLYS

[unborn pelican]

How did you unload an entire mag on your teammate without noticing it's a teammate

[tiny quail]

but when prescott dummy thicc ai throw flashbangs at the doorframes friendly firing his entire squad it's fine smh

[amber dock]

Hence why a lot of people should never be near guns

[fervent gale]

Does anyone know where I can see which S-Ranks I need for the steam advancement?
I completed most of mine before the progress was tracked in solo friends only lobbies, and thought I had pinned down which 3 I was missing, but now that I got progress for doing twisted nerve I'm not sure anymore. All but port show S in the game thats why I need a different way to see the progress.

[amber dock]

Sadly no

Unless you have different grades on the mission selector like A or B etc. But if all say S on mission selector then no real way of knowing

[fervent gale]

Alr thanks than I‘ll just have to try it out, I think it’s neon tomb and port hokan that’s missing

[primal shuttle]

do modd affect achievements? even if i have 100+ mods hypothetically

mods*

steam achievements btw

[jolly verge]

Nope

[robust yarrow]

Aspid pls
Do swat ai kills count towards sleeper agent?

[jolly verge]

Dont know

[fossil bone]

i just counted 20 kills on three letter raid within 15seconds of each other why didnt i got the achivemend

[twilit mulch]

🤷‍♂️

[rigid depot]

Does anyone else get a coffee before readying up?

[twilit mulch]

irl or in game?

[eager walrus]

Watching team cams and casually observing friendly AI unloading into each others asses almost every time they fire when entering a room

[stone bay]

hello

[umbral oar]

might have to start doing this

[brave jolt]

I just found out you can order the civs in Elephant to run to the exit

[eager walrus]

That’s a thing on all levels I think now

It’s handy but then they run into bullets

[umbral oar]

they run to where you spawned so it’s reliant on you clearing adequately

[eager walrus]

Just depends on whether enemy AI has decided to function properly or not

Sometimes they’ll gravitate to gunfire other times they’ll just track you through the map once they hear gunfire

[umbral oar]

huh

[tribal quiver]

where does one post memes here? I have a really cute one

[eager walrus]

Sometimes the enemy will come to sounds other times they’ll just watch you through the map

[umbral oar]

civs don’t shoot bullets so i think they’ll be fine

[narrow geode]

Do the officers in the quick play have their own traits?

[umbral oar]

no

but they never die either

if they die they come back

[narrow geode]

rip
Would be better if we could change their traits or something
They also dont have stress and stuff

[umbral oar]

soulless, like judge

[narrow geode]

At least they sometimes makes comments unlike judge

[copper silo]

Nah what

What is this judge slander

[narrow geode]

When im in a not reacting to anything competition and my opponent is judge or something idk

[umbral oar]

he’s very nonchalant

[copper silo]

if judge went "oh my god" everytime someone died it would get very vrry annoying

[eager walrus]

Judge after being shot in the chest 37 times

…

[umbral oar]

he can take a hella lot fr

[old blaze]

SWAT4 Judge alerting the entire compound while Yell for Compliance

SWAT4 VA fits very well

[eager walrus]

I wish we could do that silently

[old blaze]

When you aim at like a civilian sometimes you don't need to yell for compliance

[eager walrus]

Once in a blue moon it feels like

Or if there where whisper/yell commands

“CAM THE DOOR!”

[copper silo]

go up to them and bash them

[eager walrus]

Sick of my ai shouting as soon as I spawn on the map though

[copper silo]

u dont get a penalty unless u bash surrendered civs

[old blaze]

Try mods for AI

[eager walrus]

I’ll have to

[fluid storm]

Why would you wanna yell commands?

Also does anyone know if it’s possible to make the AI go on their own clearing mission in a sense?

It seems you can only clear one room if you queue commands and after that they’re static.

[eager walrus]

Yelling commands is the default

I would like a quiet option

[eager walrus]

If you die in quick play they’ll fuck around aimlessly till they die

[flint aurora]

Does anyone know how authentic the overpenetration is in RoN?

I'm looking at different calibers and right now am going from the 9mm SMG and Pistols to the .45s and using hollowpoint to avoid overpenetration so I can mitigate as much risk as possible to non-targets

[tacit gull]

Not at all

The only time you might need to worry is 7.62 really

[flint aurora]

Aight, g2k

So basically it's "use what you think is cool" then

but for 7.62 defo use hollows?

[tacit gull]

highest rated armor can block one hollow but yes

[flint aurora]

I usually tap two or three into the chest no matter what to neutralize the threat

[eager walrus]

Are you a member of any roleplay servers or happen to larp as a cop

[flint aurora]

Nah, I just am in the process of applying to my local Police force and am playing the game as authentically as possible

[tacit gull]

5.56s can two tap most people in the game

But with the new 7.62 guns and how little recoil they have they're kinda outclassed

[flint aurora]

I noticed, using the HK416

[feral hull]

CS Gas my beloved <3 (Helped me get S-rank on Neon)

[flint aurora]

CS Gas is so useful, also is useful knowing your team isn't affected by gas nor dark so I don't need to equip them with gas masks

[feral hull]

Cs is lowkey goated

[wraith basin]

So is Greased Palms.

[flint aurora]

Getting a good route through greased palms is so satisfying

but annoying when ONE perp is hiding and then guns you and your team down when you're looking for the last guy for another 15 minutes

[feral hull]

mhm

It'd be so cool if when you get down to >3 suspects they're morale goes down (except Neon Tomb, they do NOT care abt their own lives)

[flint aurora]

Yeah it'd be awesome to either have them surrender and find the player to give up, or find the player to last ditch Kamikaze attack

have them come to you for convenience's sake

also a Less-Than-Lethal option for pistols would be awesome, that way if I equip my team mates with shields, they don't kill my S rank in vanilla

[eager walrus]

Taser used to be a secondary

Can’t have that though

[robust yarrow]

You can hear them, but you can't shoot them, you should gas them

[eager walrus]

Tiny fucken AOE in the gas

[feral hull]

mhm

CS gas is powerfull but it makes ALOT of sense as for WHY it's that powerful

[eager walrus]

Are we using the same gas

[eager walrus]

Not that it matters seeing as you can equip goggles under gas mask now anyway

[flint aurora]

interesting

[eager walrus]

Style points really

[oblique flicker]

so like? could we just have an unaltered fov under nods?

[primal shuttle]

so even if i have a mod that makes the game 200x easier i can still get all the steam achievements

[flint aurora]

Yeah I have gunfighter installed as well as a relaxed ROE mod to enable me to shoot back without losing S Rank, it's hella useful, still getting achievements

[primal shuttle]

ahh awesome thanks bro

[flint aurora]

np np

it's much more fun to have gunfighter and justified kills roe

The mod still requires me to take in HVTs alive, so it keeps the challenge for those levels.

[eager walrus]

Terrorist: justified kill

raise their gun at an officer: justified

[flint aurora]

exactly, No Mercy For Terrorists Justified Kills makes it so you still are penalized for killing surrendered enemies, unlike the base version

[primal shuttle]

can i make a seperate folder in the Paks file to put my mods in? so that next time if a game update makes my mods unavailable i can just delete the file

[spring knoll]

you could just rename the mods so you know which paks to delete when the game updates

[primal shuttle]

ohhh alright

[spring knoll]

they should already have pretty distinct names anyway

[waxen plaza]

Im definitely not the first one to do this but for yall hunting the leviathan achievement all you gotta do is get two suspects to surrender, bag their guns, and use the command wheel to get them to move to the back of heli pad. Then just walk far away and headshot them.

[broken mica]

what do u guys think the best rifle build in the game is

[narrow geode]

No attachments best

[jolly verge]

There is no point to use anything beside sfmb brake and vertical/th grip, other attachments do nothing for rifles

[lost inlet]

what about SMG?

[narrow geode]

Too bad the trash ak we have does not have vertical grip and sfmb brake

[humble mauve]

"no point" erm.. theyre ugly and I hate them

handbrake supremacy

[jolly verge]

Same thing, but instead of sfmb you set suppressor for recoil reduction

[lost inlet]

so no combat grip.

[narrow geode]

Vertical grip is the best

[jolly verge]

You can set it on smgs like mp5/10, mp5a3, mp7, spc9 and ump45, but their base horizontal recoil is so low you wont even notice it

[shy spoke]

Silly question.
But I've always been curious. What does TOC stand for?

[jolly verge]

Tactical operations center

[shy spoke]

Thank you! ❤️

[unborn pelican]

What's your favourite enemies

[twin schooner]

[thorny perch]

gas station dudes

easy target practice for my 7.62

[narrow geode]

Ones that doesnt one shot me with their pistols from across the map

[thorny perch]

those dude's are trained marines im telling you

their aim is godly

[tiny quail]

voice line wise, pirate dudes from 3 letter triad

they're like "grrrr we're los navegantes del caos" like okay buddy that's cool

[pseudo pier]

Lmao

[pseudo pier]

Ex Delta force meth heads

[thorny perch]

passive-aggressive

[unborn pelican]

My favourite enemies in design are the mindjot security guards

[tiny quail]

as if angry mexican pirates are gonna faze me after hearing bolton security voicelines a million times while trying to s rank valley

[willow cipher]

Just a question: should I use an IR laser or a flashlight on my primary? I decided against the visible laser because it has some drawbacks that would interfere with my gameplay.

[pseudo pier]

I barely remember their voices at this point

[tiny quail]

i mostly use flashlight, but laser when im feeling tacticool

[thorny perch]

I use it for looks

[willow cipher]

Thanks!

[unborn pelican]

I Always choose flashlight over laser

[tiny quail]

ones i can remember is something like "dude i need the pay" or "talk to amos voll he'll sort this out" (he was gunning me down for half a minute earlier)

i mean in terms of uniqueness mine's gotta be the eco terrorist lads

atleast their voicelines breaks from the stereotypical angry middle eastern terrorist

[tiny quail]

they're either just literal dog noises according to the subtitles or "don't you see how this is killing the earth" typa shit

[unborn pelican]

I remember thinking that valley of dolls had snipers somewhere because every time I got to the party zone I got instantly killed without knowing where the shot came from

[tiny quail]

the open pool area is borderline a death trap so I don't blame you

[pseudo pier]

Real lmao

[pseudo pier]

I fucking used the windows ngl

[tiny quail]

like sometimes the voicelines are so disconnected from their actions

one mirage at sea run i had the notifications that i failed the save all civvies task appeared, then later on i heard a gunshot, we arrested a suspect and he went smth like "i didn't do anything, i swear!" ...besides a dead civ body

[unborn pelican]

He didn't kill him

It was his gun

[tiny quail]

plausible deniability

[pseudo pier]

Lmao

[wraith arrow]

and the real cartels and latinamerica are like "the viagras"

[wraith arrow]

and they are real

[paper urchin]

is twisted nerve bugged for S rank?

[jolly verge]

Both twisted nerve and dorms

caused by knives in suspects loadout

[paper urchin]

okay thanks, I've tried it multiple times multiplayer with friends and we are always missing one piece of evidence

[jolly verge]

Player cant secure knive, only swat ai

or you can use mod that removes score for evidence

[paper urchin]

I just watched a mate finish it then solo, he got all objectives and made AI pick up every piece of evidence, the mission hard completed and he got an A+

[paper urchin]

does that affect the cosmetic unlocks?

[jolly verge]

Nope

Mods dont affect anything

[paper urchin]

okay neat i'll look into it cheers

[wraith arrow]

good luck!

[vague isle]

lethal obsession traps suck grahh

[narrow geode]

Ready or not players when they have to peek the door instead of kicking or blowing it up

[real pelican]

Can someone explain to me the lore of Ends of the earth or Kawayu Beach cuz like I don't know why people keep talking about on why it is sad

I listen to them

And I dont use lethal

[calm jacinth]

do you own the game? if you don't, i'll tell you

[tiny quail]

tldr ||family on the low end and mom on deathbed, so the sons got into illegal weapon modification business to barely get by, you raid the place ||

[civic sail]

Listen to yo mission briefings slime

[tiny quail]

"your mom has life threatening diseases? womp womp. detonates c2"

[copper silo]

me when im in a ron discord humor competition and my opponent makes a joke about harming civilians

[real pelican]

oh alr

[robust yarrow]

"Not my problem"

[tiny quail]

unrelated to the mission

[robust yarrow]

I mean yeah the mission is sad and all but
They should've thought of that before selling weapons to the city's most dangerous and ruthless criminals, and working alongside the fucking cartel and the human trafficking organization

Like yeah I'm still not gonna do this mission lethal but c'mon
They had it coming

[tiny quail]

shouldn't have made such rage inducing ai for me to eventually stop feeling remorseful

[narrow geode]

Whenever i try to join a game i get this message that says something like "you have been kicked" does anyone know how to fix this

[amber dock]

Nothing you really can’t do besides finding lobbies that don’t kick you

[narrow geode]

I was not serious

🐟

[barren yew]

OH MY GOSH STUPID MINDJOT

last suspect i was looking for dude came out from a corner and aimbotted me

[rancid wraith]

This is where you make the choice of switching to a shotgun

Absolute life saver in CQC

[barren yew]

Im using the beowulf 50 cal

Lol

[rancid wraith]

But shotguns have a lot of pellets which when hit the body, they tend to do a lot of ouchy which usually results in a fatality

Plus they have a spread which is great

[barren yew]

But 50 cal hit even harder and sometimes takes some limbs with it

[rancid wraith]

Shotguns take limbs too

And with a shotgun you have a higher probability of hitting your target than with a 50 cal, it’s like comparing buckshot to slugs

[barren yew]

True

[rancid wraith]

But if you wanna run a 50 cal, go for it

[unborn pelican]

That Happened to me 3 times in valley of dolls

[celest crystal]

when can i pirate the new maps

[barren yew]

Thats tragic

[sour sandal]

What do yall think the best weapon setup for the 2nd home invasion is?

[sour sandal]

Don’t do that to these devs. They ain’t like other devs where you are just “renting a title”

As far as I know they are not

[umbral oar]

asking that here is crazy

[rancid wraith]

It’s a mix of open space and CQC so maybe a shotgun

[unborn pelican]

I used the sa58 and five seven

[sour sandal]

How much ammo in each?

[sour sandal]

How much ammo?

[rancid wraith]

4 things of buckshot and 3 pistol mags

[sour sandal]

Which pistol and what type of ammo?

[rancid wraith]

Depends but go with the five seven with AP ammo

[eager walrus]

Unless your target wears any body armour whatsoever then the shell is rendered useless

[eager walrus]

The tan pistol?

[barren yew]

I use a glock 19 mod

Its a goated pistol

[eager walrus]

I forget what pistol I have equipped you almost never need them

[barren yew]

Fr

[eager walrus]

Even when you do use one the enemies have armour so you’re kinda shit out of luck

[unborn pelican]

I sometimes switch to the revolver just because it looks cool

[amber dock]

GIGN

[sour sandal]

How many enemies on the 2nd mission of Home Invasion?

[oblique garden]

Any plans on adding female operators?

[unborn pelican]

There are 8-10 Los Locos members

[sour sandal]

Okay thanks

[barren yew]

Have u tried finding a mod for them

[oblique garden]

yes there are mods for them, but I was wondering if there was any plans on incomporating it into the base game

[amber dock]

last I heard it is planned but very low priority

[oblique garden]

makes sense. thanks

can i still get achievements with mods?

[barren yew]

Yes

[amber dock]

Oui

[barren yew]

Speak freedom not gibberish😂

https://tenor.com/view/freedom-america-gif-15593845046973100361

[oblique garden]

nice!

[amber dock]

Freedom is overrated as shit

[covert thicket]

"Shotguns are basically a one shell one kill weapon" ~zach hazard

[grave jewel]

anyone know how to fix the voicelines not working?

[narrow geode]

Its a bug

Gotta wait for them to fix it

[grand meteor]

help

my mods arent loading in im confused #🔧modding-chat

[versed wraith]

do suspects have the ability to shoot themselves? I could have sworn that I watched a dude turn his gun on himself and im just making sure im not crazy

[eager walrus]

I think they might do on a couple of missions

[robust yarrow]

Yes they'll do that

[barren yew]

why r so many of the same ppl joining and leaving multiplayer lobby immediately

[feral hull]

I love it when civilians get IN THE LINE OF FIRE when I'm shooting/ getting shot at

[umbral oar]

checksum enabled?

you know what, that’s probably not it

idk fr

[hard walrus]

Is it normal that i hear ready or not operators screaming at a suspect

In real life, in my head

[stone bay]

they need to fake that insurance claim

[stone bay]

me

[stone bay]

No, it just doesn't fit, female swat officers. Debatable but I just don't think it fits, only for regular police officers yeah

[feral hull]

Lmao

[stone bay]

on god, i always go three mags each weapon, i use semi a lot to conserve ammo but sometimes i run out of pistol ammo 😢

[oblique garden]

https://www.police1.com/women-in-law-enforcement/a-day-in-the-life-of-palm-beach-county-sheriffs-offices-1st-female-swat-officer#:~:text=Meet LaShawnna Edwards%2C who is,grit and commitment to excellence&text=LaShawnna “Leddy” Edwards is PBSO's first female SWAT Team Operator.&text=LaShawnna Edwards made history as,to follow in her footsteps.
https://www.nnva.gov/2666/27723/NNPD-SWAT-Team-Leader-is-a-Woman?activeLiveTab=widgets#:~:text=NNPD Lt.,Click here to read.

[stone bay]

🏃‍♂️ 💨

fair, but theres a low possibility

[spring knoll]

female swat officers would be a cool addition but i think void knows their audience and knows that an investment like that (which would involve a whole bunch of new VAs and new character models) would not be worth all the backlash

[prime wing]

People already bought the game. If someone decides to stop playing, thats about it. Its not like it depends on numbers as a live service game.

and its completely optional to use whatever character you want probably

so even those who are scared of women in a videogame have the option not to use one

[royal owl]

^^ 💯💯💯

[spring knoll]

i agree with all your points, i just don’t think void wants to cause such an uproar regardless.

i’d love to have fem officers too but one look at the subreddit / steam forums and you know there’s gonna be nonstop grifting and bickering there for ages. i think void’s got way more priorities atm than dealing with that.

that being said they may not necessarily need completely new models. just a female face would already be serviceable enough for most things given how bulky armour is gonna make proportions mostly the same anyway.

the issue is moreso getting voices

[limber escarp]

Female officers would be good for player diversity, some feel more comfortable playing their own gender too, and I know women also play this game. I dont think a game studio should avoid adding something that is normal and common in 90% of games out there just because you have people who have never felt the touch of one seething in their pantaloons.

If people choose to avoid playing a game because of a female, whats the difference than people choosing to avoid playing a game because of a map that was added, or a weapon, or even a new mechanic? To me, its all the same. I know people who stopped playing due to Civilian AI, I know people who didnt like to play due to the slow-paced movement.

One thing to consider here is the possibility of mods..yes..those mods. We all know that theres some gross people out there willing to spend hours modding a perverted outfit, and that could ruin the games image for a lot of people, but thats voids choice to make.

[tacit gull]

Considering you can't even choose your voice in the game right now and people still play it means that female officers aren't really something that should be considered high-priority

[gilded oar]

[gilded oar]

I mean you can choose a male officer and voice in Multiplayer but for some reason any voice I choose just gives me Judge voice lines.

[tacit gull]

Yup, that's a known issue

Every client has judge voice for themselves

[calm jacinth]

1. Female officers will not be the first priority since people are still complaining about AI, more gun modifications, etc.
2. Go check Nexusmods/Mod.io

[limber escarp]

Well I didnt say they needed to be first priority, just something for the future to think about

and 2. Mods are great but we shouldnt have to rely on some of them for basic features we should have, just like how RON never had the ability to do both Night Vision goggles and a gas mask until now but you had to use the gunfighter mod for that.

[limber escarp]

You can, but just in multiplayer. Commander Mode and Quick play are deemed as "Story Mode", and in the story you play strictly as Judge the SWAT Team Leader

Wait my bad saw someone answered that for you

[tacit gull]

Nope, that feature currently doesn't work

[limber escarp]

For me it does, but ONLY if you play with other people. When I play solo in multiplayer, it doesnt work. When I play with other people, it works. The reason might be because theres no others to give out voices to, so it just sees you as judge, but that doesnt mean it should be the way it is.

[tacit gull]

Still doesn't work if you're not the host

[limber escarp]

Really? Yeah that def needs a fix

[tacit gull]

And if you're playing single it's intended for you to still be judge

[limber escarp]

Once judge, always judge

You cant escape the dead eyes and batman christian bale voice

[tacit gull]

I also still don't really agree with the multiple helmet stuff as now there's absolutely zero incentive not to run night vision at all times and it looks ridiculous in public lobbies

[limber escarp]

Well thats public lobbies, with people who run it on any map because they think it looks cool

Me personally I use it with the NVG's and Flash Goggles, or it with gas if its dark and I wanna use gas, or maybe even with the ballistic mask for dark maps with heavy kitted suspects

[bitter mason]

👏 add 👏 weight 👏 system 👏

[unborn pelican]

Aldready exists

[bitter mason]

Nope

[unborn pelican]

Yes

[bitter mason]

For armour yes but not for all equipment

[limber escarp]

Already is with the armor types, but if theyre gonna add an equipment weight system then add a health and body weight system and system to eat food and workout cause you gotta remember that these swat guys workout and have enough muscle to carry tons of heavy equipment

[bitter mason]

All I'm saying is if they go the route of more loadout freedom over gameplay balancing
A bigger weight system should replace the point system imo, with helmets and weapons taken into account

Armour only effects acceleration speed
A proper weight system I think could allow a bit more drastic differences in player speed depending on the equipment you pack

[limber escarp]

If you cant carry a rifle, gun, tools, mags, and wear a helmet without struggling to move quick enough, you shouldnt be in SWAT.

[bitter mason]

I never said you shouldn't be able to do that

[limber escarp]

I know, but Im saying a weight system where helmets are taken into account? a helmet is not that heavy

[bitter mason]

I'm saying the weight system would allow more freedom of loadouts
Realistically swat teams carry way more things than you can in game currently

I imagine it would be a small difference for helmets but they will all add up with the different equipment you pick

[limber escarp]

We already have freedom of loadouts, we arent restricted. If you're talking about the amount of mags and deployables; thats going based off the vest and vest type

[lime stone]

Former ARMA player here. Trust me, the weight system won't work as well as you think.

[limber escarp]

^^^^^

I was just about to mention ARMA

[bitter mason]

Or if they go the swat 4 SEF route have a bulk thing aswell so the bulkier you are the slower some actions are

My thinking is coming more from swat 4 SEF than ARMA
Two different kinds of games

[limber escarp]

In ARMA you can carry like 10 mags and a ton of tools, yet there still is a max you can carry based on what you wear, and it does affect you big time, just like how what vest you wear in RON depicts how much deployables and mags you can carry

[tacit gull]

Adding shit on top of your helmet should absolutely be a pain in the ass, but i don't think a weight system will wrok that well

Especially since VOID want the movement speed standardised

The bulk system in SEF also causes a ridiculous amount of issues, both in terms of local gameplay and networking

[lime stone]

Not to mention how players behaved with it. Two ends of the spectrum
People trying to game the system to be as light as possible at one end

To people who just had to bring everything and the kitchen sink on the other and slow the whole squad down

[ionic river]

I wish all helmets had glow sticks. Makes it much easier to identify who's friendly from the rear.

[void juniper]

why don't they add a mode where you need to defend the HQ from attackers freeing an inmate

[limber escarp]

We have it on the back of the vest thankfully

[tacit gull]

The most powerful strat in SEF was bringing nothing but two pepper spray cans and outrunning the AI completely

[ionic river]

For most vests to be sure but no all of them.

[lime stone]

The player name patches in the last update was 🔥

[limber escarp]

This is not R6

[ionic river]

Loved the name patches. Easily one of the best small things added to the game.

[limber escarp]

or sorry, Zero Hour

[void juniper]

a little side mission after the boat mission

[tacit gull]

The yacht also sucks, i'd rather we don't get more missions that suck

[ionic river]

I actually wish we get more warrant oriented missions.

[lime stone]

The yacht is bloody good fun

[limber escarp]

wouldnt make sense, because how would that work? You have to defend them from freeing the inmate, so what do you do? Do you add a time limit till you fail, are you the defenders or the one responding and moving in, theres a lot to think about and plus unlike movies and TV raiding a police station is not that easy

[lime stone]

But a bank heist scenario or maybe witness protection scenario?

[bitter mason]

Dealing with actual normal criminals over terrorists would be refreshing

[limber escarp]

Yeah I wish we had more missions like the gas station. I wanna respond to bank robberies, hostage situations in robberies, warrants, apartment raids, etc

I'm kinda stumped on why SWAT responded to the oil rig and not COAST (Coast Guard)

Yeah lets send in a local police SWAT unit and not a military branch with military equipment and resources

[lime stone]

What's a normal criminal? Two bit dirtbags usually don't warrant swat getting called, it's usually patrol officers, detectives and jump out boys doing that stuff.

Though I guess VOID can go the usual route of "Yeah x unit is already tied down"

[ionic river]

I think hostage situations would allow for ranged weapons/scopes to have abetter utility.

[limber escarp]

We have long range scopes and one long range bold action rifle, but no situations to be used for it

[bitter mason]

Gang members to organised criminals

[tacit gull]

I don't think scopes will ever have a place in this game

Also literally the first mission in the game has two bit thugs

[limber escarp]

My thing is why not send in border patrol and DEA for coyote?? its literally on the border and deals with drugs

[bitter mason]

Yeah I don't see snipers and scopes to ever be useful outside of npc snipers like the chopper

[lime stone]

True

[bitter mason]

Would be nice if they added some cosmetics to exist with these levels, so you could be border guards, DEA or coast guards

[lime stone]

For that one the brief says it's some joint task force thing, and because its a case your PD was working on. They wanted in on the action

[ionic river]

Welps.

[limber escarp]

I think the thing for that one is the patrol officers were shot, I might be mixing it up but I think there was an injured cop for the beta version of that mission, but I believe the cops were injured so you get sent in

[bitter mason]

Biggest issue is they pushed for a story about a supposedly under funded pd rather than being a bit more general law enforcement scernarios

[lime stone]

You're thinking Carriers

[limber escarp]

Lol the Old SWAT HQ with calls saying you are in debt

[void juniper]

i am shoked that there is not a bank mission yet

[tacit gull]

We did get cosmetics for the coast guard (and the vbss from 30 years ago i guess?)

[bitter mason]

Yeah lol

[limber escarp]

Ahhhh

[tacit gull]

And there is a BDRTAC uniform in the game

[bitter mason]

I was hoping for some navy blue to be added officially

[tacit gull]

yeah that woulda been nice

[limber escarp]

We have some unfinished cosmetics, like a ranger green uniform for FBI/Supporter edition but no FBI Ranger Green vest

[lime stone]

I mean, the PD is underfunded. I think they got more funding after the hurricane, there's like emergency funds that 1st Responders get during disasters. But who knows how it will affect the department in the future?

[bitter mason]

Only things I'd want from a patch system is ones saying "police" or organisation badges for lspd, fisa and the like
None of this tacticool blackbeard flag skulls crap 🤢

[full thistle]

I'd like more fisa gear tbh

[tacit gull]

PD is so underfunded they can afford 5 officers with GPNVGs

[lime stone]

And FiveSevens 😂

[ionic river]

And all sorts of rifles, SMGs and shotguns.

All the accessories too.

[bitter mason]

I always thought the best way they could express the PDs underfunding is through the commander mode. Having you start with a more limited selection of guns and getting more as you progress

[lime stone]

Maybe that's why they're broke

[ionic river]

HD Headcams.

[onyx matrix]

Yeah.. underfunded.. say that to my limitless supply of grenades

[full thistle]

I believe that the PD is underfunded because D-platoon is casually siphoning allat money

[lime stone]

With how much ammo my buddies waste, I beleive it

[full thistle]

kinda miss the old lobby tbh

[onyx matrix]

That makes sense… (all my officers keep buying at the mall)

[ionic river]

Obligatory comment about all the 3 stripe officers in the lobby just doing nothing.

[full thistle]

I'm so frugal with ammo but I still bring 6 mags

[limber escarp]

When you used to be able to look at the killhouse from above? oh yeah

[bitter mason]

Can't have shit in LS

[full thistle]

to be fair tho I have a really dumb reason for bringing so many mags

[lime stone]

Do you drop a lot of them from fast reloading?

[onyx matrix]

Mag dumping civvies

[bitter mason]

I bring a lot of mags because it feels stupid to only have 2

[full thistle]

I counted all the mags on the default LSPD vest, then added an extra to account for the mag in the gun

[bitter mason]

Even if I hardly go through one magazine most levels

[ionic river]

I actually try to role play active shooters by only having 3 mags for my pistol and thays hard. You need more.

[onyx matrix]

I only have 2 mags on my pistol

[limber escarp]

"More Mags, thats 65% more bullet, per bullet"

[full thistle]

nah I ain't a cod gamer

[lime stone]

I use a mod to increase suspect count, so yeahh more ammo

[full thistle]

I also counted all the pistol mags on my belt and I think I'm rocking like 3 pistol mags

[ionic river]

Tried tgat mod and that's insane.

[full thistle]

so yeah, that's 9 inv slots dedicated to ammo alone

[ionic river]

Relapse with increased suspects, we actually ran out of ammo.

[lime stone]

Relapse is a meatgrinder with upped suspects...especially when it doubles down on the dudes dressed as staff members

[full thistle]

I've damn near S-ranked vanilla relapse solo before

[onyx matrix]

I love making judge have unlimited ammo (except for the secondary)

[full thistle]

Btw

What are yalls primaries

[ionic river]

MP7, love that thing. Full auto.

[hollow finch]

depends, but usually modded

I like havedoughnuts hk416 smr

[full thistle]

Nice nice yeah

[ionic river]

I want to love the GA51 but I don't like the low ammo per mag.

[bitter mason]

I'm boring and usually take the mk18

[ionic river]

On that note maybe it's too hard but getting to choose mags would be a plus. Like some of the narcos peeps are rocking beta mags for m4s. Would like to see that on the SWAT side.

[bitter mason]

Or the classic mp5 depending on the level

[lime stone]

Mk18 is a handy weapon. Absolute powerhouse. Nothing boring about that.

[bitter mason]

I almost feel like smgs could do with something to make them a bit more useful on the more tricky levels
Maybe 2 magazines per point
Weird to me that such small magazines are the same cost as a full sized ar magazine

[lime stone]

Anyhow, I love a bunch of the different AR's.
The GA51 is my go to if i'm expecting heavier armor on suspects.
I like he SR 16 if there's longer angles.
And the LVAR for when I wanna feel like a hi speed boi

[full thistle]

Nothing wrong with that

i take the sr16 90% of the time

Take on a pseudo marksman role

[lime stone]

🤝 SR16 enjoyer

[full thistle]

Hell yeah finally

Is it the best gun at range? No

Is it precise? Very

[craggy swan]

Anyone alive here

[bitter mason]

Nop all doa

[lime stone]

Eh, I found it pretty handy at range. I've one tapped dudes at the other end of the parking lot in the Dealership map.

[full thistle]

Entry team to toc, we've got a dead chat

[lime stone]

Understood, coroner notified

[full thistle]

Its certainly good at range but I think it's tight groups is one of it's best traits

[bitter mason]

Chat is dead. Repeat, chat is doa

I just say the mk18 is boring because m4

[full thistle]

Its a shame its so slept on tho

[lime stone]

100%

[full thistle]

Honestly tho if I could only use one gun for the entire game, it'd be the mk18

[bitter mason]

If they readded the m4a4 my ass would be using it 90% of the time

[craggy swan]

M4 is so boring because of 10mm mp5

[bitter mason]

Mk18 and m11 is usually what I take

[full thistle]

Dont think an A4 variant exists irl

For the m4 at least

[bitter mason]

Or m4a1

Whichever the one used to be in the game

[full thistle]

Solid choices

[ionic river]

Beretta 9 is my go to pistol. Love her.

[bitter mason]

The existing mk18 but with a full length barrel basically

[craggy swan]

Counter strike did the m4a4 first

[craggy swan]

Based. The basic m9 or m9a1 or m9a4?

[bitter mason]

I'd use the g36c if it had its carry handle
Can't use it without mods basically

[lime stone]

The m11 is a dreadful pistol. I had no idea how much better secondaries could be till I tried the FN509 or the Glock

[full thistle]

The mk18 would make a good suppressor host tho, cuz of the short dwell time

[bitter mason]

Ye ik why they replaced the other one with a mk18

[full thistle]

Hot take but most of the pistols perform the same

[bitter mason]

I used to always use the 5.7 because of the sound it made

[ionic river]

A1 to be sure. I like to add a WML to it.

[bitter mason]

But m11 just looks nice I like it

[full thistle]

Whats not to love about a sig p229

[bitter mason]

Sometimes if I want to go full 90s style swat I'll take the black 1911 pistol

[ionic river]

Fair. That's why I go on looks Beretta looks amazing.

[full thistle]

Thats true its very timeless

I like to use the usp but I keep it barebones with just a wml

[lime stone]

I use pistols a lot, so I tend to notice differences in performance. But I sacrifice performance over vibe

[lime stone]

Metal Gear vibe?

[ionic river]

Yeah WML is all I like on the pistol. Silencers and comps look wonky and I don't like the red dot options.

[bitter mason]

This is a vibe game imo
None of that max efficiency meta gack

[full thistle]

that and also because it's just such a good duty gun

[craggy swan]

Run no pistol, rifle only

[ionic river]

But thats imo too easy.

[full thistle]

I put a wml on everything

[craggy swan]

Even on knife?

[ionic river]

Lol

[lime stone]

Aye, thank god the customisation caters so well

[full thistle]

slaps a wml on battering ram cutely

[craggy swan]

Why cutely

[ionic river]

I wish we could get helmet mounted lights.

[lime stone]

WML on my C2 charges

[ionic river]

Espciecllat when looking for evidence.

[full thistle]

because if I did it meanly that wouldn't be nice

[craggy swan]

They suck irl

[full thistle]

y'all know what I really want

ir illuminators

[craggy swan]

Why

[full thistle]

sometimes it's too dark even for NVGs to have satisfactory lighting

[lime stone]

Can we have some real dark missions so I can use my nods too? OLD FARM (Night) is the first time I really felt the low light challenge

[ionic river]

Probs too expensive for the perennially broke LSPD.

[full thistle]

darn

btw I don't like GPNVGs that much tbh, something abt em bothers me

[stone bay]

currently trying to glock-only the gas station with a super hard ai mod

its fucking hilarious

no actually

may have just blown off a civilian's head though

he ran at me

like into me, while I was pieing a corner

not my fault

wellll

no

non casualty is fucking crazy

[mint river]

Hello, i saw that a few combat grip and suppressor says that it increase accuracy, what does that actually do? Does it reduce the slight hands movements or smth?

[jolly verge]

Nothing

Accuracy stat means it's reduces spread, but all guns dont have it, only shotguns with buckshot ammo

Same thing with ADS speed on all grips

[mint river]

is bullet velocity increase fake too?

[jolly verge]

Yes, all guns are hitscan, only beanbag, pepperballs and m320 launchers have projectiles

[mint river]

ty

[bitter mason]

Even if there is any change its not usually too noticeable
Just rock with what looks cool

[robust yarrow]

Is there a way to cancel a reload by switching to your sidearm? Or does void just not want to bother making staged reloads?

[narrow geode]

I dont think so
It has to be frustrating

[feral hull]

I love not stopping a reload when being shot!

[narrow geode]

Who doesnt

[karmic maple]

is their a way to download helmet cam footage from ready or not?

[hollow finch]

no, if I understand you right

[karmic maple]

ok i was just wondering

[real pelican]

What loadout should I use for valley of the dolls?

i am a new player

[unborn pelican]

Shotgun and five seven

[jolly verge]

Any rifle with JHP ammo and heavy vest with ceramic plates

[robust yarrow]

Decided to reload at the wrong moment? You will now be punished by having a suspect rush you while you can't do a damn thing about it

[tacit gull]

You say that like it's a bad thing

[robust yarrow]

Oh yeah I love being punished

[spring knoll]

why are yall treating this like its not an intentional game mechanic so you dont play badly

[tacit gull]

Can't wait for the reload cancel mechanic that renders your gun unusable!

[amber dock]

Whole gun just falls apart

New Ron hand to hand combat dlc

For only 9.99 on steam

[barren yew]

That would be fun if you run out of mags u gotta prime iron mike these mfs

[robust yarrow]

Just make it so you drop your mag if you cancel (like an emergency reload)

You still get punished but at least you get to live to regret your decision

[unborn pelican]

How to back up your saves in ready or not

[neon spoke]

I tried to run nexus mods with my friend on multi-player, failed every single time even when I send him the folder with my mods, anyone know why?

Everywhere I looked it said it was possible, but it wouldn't work for me

[clever ridge]

I am trying to do greased palms on S rank yall got any tips?

[full shore]

Clear up to the bathroom area in the front office and turn around to go back outside. Then start clearing the outside all the way to the end of the warehouse area and clear the inside from there

[clever ridge]

thanks

[spring knoll]

move around the warehouse exterior and wedge warehouse entry points as you go
afterwards fall in diamond formation and push the carpark and enter the warehouse from the carpark

[clever ridge]

thanks

[pine ore]

Beanbags, flashes, and c2

Don’t be afraid to c2+flash every door

Good luck

[limber escarp]

They have a replay feature where you can set the camera display to the helmet, thats it though

[limber escarp]

They should have it so you can emergency reload but if you do then you can still pick up your mags afterwards, or even pick up a dead officers mags who has the same ammo type and magazine

[eager walrus]

goes for any map

ditch the pistol mags and bring extra shells

[eager walrus]

you can pick up your emergency reloaded mags no?

You can at the police station

[narrow geode]

You can even pick up weapons shields and stuff

[full shore]

You can pick up emergency reload mags on the ground. You can even share mags with teammates this way if you're playing online

[narrow geode]

If only randoms were that helpful

[full shore]

Gotta get lucky and keep rolling until you get a good lobby lol

[limber escarp]

Ah guess I never noticed

[neon spoke]

I swear this game is just a horror game with guns, its truely more scary than actual horror games I've played

[narrow geode]

Right
This game startled me many times

[feral hull]

Mhm and the teammates take 6 years to realize wtf happened

[lone cloud]

massive skill issue, always switch to secondary

[pine linden]

Cucked 2x in a row out of S tier on twisted nerve because of shit falling thru the floor, why the fuck is this issue still a thing

[royal owl]

Brotha that pfp🤣

[regal trail]

hi friends, I saw a screenshot today of a RoN character that had some Reptilia accessories on their rifle...does anyone have a list of what Reptilia parts are in the game?

[opal nest]

Guys whenever i enter mod.io i can leave it unless i exit the game itself, is there anyway else to get out or no?

Oh nvm i pressed esc and got out

[prime mural]

Does flashlight actively aggro ai now? Before 1.0 it made em voice line but didn't aggro them

[hearty prawn]

are there any lore drops in the DLC missions?

[umbral oar]

yup

[eager walrus]

Watching an enemy tank a half a dozen round to the torso then one shot me is truely horrific

[tacit gull]

You're right, missing is kinda scary

[fossil wedge]

GUYS WTF, I did the campaign in iron man mode, no officers dead or left due to stress. BUT I DIDN'T GET THE ACHIEVEMENT. I don't have mods. I also have both DLC's... Do I need to do the DLC's as well?

[tacit gull]

No

I'm guessing you failed hide & seek or something

[fossil wedge]

No, I got all missions right. No civ deaths on Elephant, no deaths on Tomb, Relapse, Hide & Seek. Everyone is content, I didn't do the AHEM container on H&S just in case the cops leaving would make me fail

Some missions S ranked, I redid the gas station to get people back to content

[tacit gull]

I'm unsure if you had to do the container for it to count, if you got anything below C you for sure need to do it again

[fossil wedge]

I'm not sure what I got... Any way to look that up? It just says S tier rn

[tacit gull]

No

[fossil wedge]

I got the watch, but not the achievement

Bruhh

[tacit gull]

Try doing it again with the container and while getting a C+

[robust yarrow]

Gratr do you know if swat ai kills count towards sleeper agent?

[tacit gull]

I'm unsure, you're definetly not doing sleeper agent with AI lethal

Best you can do is get most enemies in the level to surrender solo then start arresting at the same time as your AI

Their arrests do count, chances are so do the kills

[robust yarrow]

Aight thanks

[edgy linden]

I would be cool if unconcious suspects counted towards arresting them, at least some of the missions with 'arrest x amount of suspects.' and not just the specic targets 'amos' as example.

[hard walrus]

I'd love there to be a height and weight customization

But it affects your speed

[jolly verge]

You need at least C grade on port hokan

[fossil wedge]

Alright thanks guys

I’ll try it asap

[vivid moat]

193cm and 70kg fr

[hard walrus]

Yea like having atleast 193cm and others below 185 is fair

[round pagoda]

finna make that Paul Blart mall cop build

[thorny yacht]

why does the high and epic post processing look a bit foggy

[jolly verge]

Chromatic aberration i guess, it's enabled on high/epic post process preset

[rich quartz]

Who’s the narrator for the swat ai vlog?

[neon spoke]

Worst part is when you don't even get a chance to get a round off

[stone bay]

Why "find public game" can be clicked on twice ?

[prime wing]

zack

the audio and music guy

[shut iron]

ok how many buckshot in one slot?

i brought 9 slots at neon club and just almost empty

[narrow geode]

You must be shooting too much if you used nearly all of the slots

[jolly verge]

Always 8

[narrow geode]

Even for ones that have 9 shells?

[jolly verge]

Yes

[narrow geode]

Weird stuff really

[stone bay]

Why "find public game" can be clicked on twice ?

[shut iron]

feel few

i often empty whole buckshot in one second to a target

[onyx matrix]

I love the 23 megabytes a second mission

[rich quartz]

He has a very nice voice

[shut iron]

c2 enjoyer

🖐️

[onyx matrix]

Gas enjoyer

[shut iron]

bro just like silent hill ghost in the room

[unborn pelican]

I like the song in the background

But I prefer sinuous trail

[eager walrus]

clears room

AI kicks in door and either kills or maims you before the door is fully open

[stone bay]

I played Greased Palms after a while, It's not really as hard as I thought it would be after seeing those rants on the subreddit

[real pelican]

What's a good primary, secondary, and long tactical

[civic sail]

what grade are you going for

[real pelican]

B-A

lethal tho

[narrow geode]

7 62 ARs are good

[civic sail]

I usually use an MCX for lethal clears

for my long tac I'll take a flash launcher and really any pistol for my secondary

[real pelican]

oh alr

Cuz i usually use Arn-180, TLE, and the stinger

[hollow finch]

mods mods mods

i use havedoughnuts 416 smr mod, taser secondary and the mirrorgun long tactical

[copper silo]

i use breaching shotgun

[robust yarrow]

LVAR

[robust yarrow]

I love Greased Palms

[tacit gull]

hustlerz more like

[frail pier]

I just wanted gold name bro

[tacit gull]

we can't all get what we like

[frail pier]

Well I just did

Get fukt

[tacit gull]

for example i would like the reforger servers to NOT be DDOSed rn

[amber dock]

Ummm

Skill issue

[robust yarrow]

Add slings in RoN

[frail pier]

Just do it back to who's doing it

[amber dock]

So real

[frail pier]

Modern problems require modern solutions

[tacit gull]

i'm just gonna attack mainland russia

[amber dock]

Gratr gonna DDOS this server and just spam gratr everywhere

[tacit gull]

it's all gonna be gruntr's fault

[fervent gale]

Wounded Civ ruins S right?

[tacit gull]

only if they're incapacitated

[fervent gale]

Yeah he's knocked the fuck out

[unborn pelican]

Time to alt f4 then

[pastel narwhal]

Do we have any Italian army skin?

[hidden finch]

Any tips for Elefant? I have completed it on S at some point but i am trying to win a campaign on ironman with no loses. Are there any weapons i can use that wont trigger the suspect to execute hostages?

[rancid wraith]

Not really, you just need to move quickly, focus on suspects, then the bombs, then secure any civilians

[tacit gull]

It's all up to luck, just alt-f4 if you dont find the suspects in time

[bitter mason]

it used to be worse, not that bad these days. Just a pretty icky layout imo but I do enjoy the map

[fossil wedge]

Thanks for that guys! I got it now

[fossil wedge]

You too

[hardy token]

Hey KiSchu again. We (group of fellas) still have the same problem on a lot of maps: Weapons of suspects, which are thrown away bug through walls/the map. It's really frustrating if you made everything right and there still missing a collectable to achieve S rank on a map. Maybe something for game dev?

[full shore]

This is a known bug. Might want to put a hold on S rank for now until it's patched

[stone bay]

Is it possible to get a server browser? I know the menu mod but there arent any non-checksum servers

[fallen turret]

Hello,
I'm new here and i want to know if it's possible to play at 10 player this game ?
And how is this possible ?

[tawny burrow]

You shouldn't even have a Discord account at 10

[flint aurora]

You mean play with essentially 2 squads of guys, 10 players in one match?

[little hatch]

with mods, yes

[raven schooner]

I will never understand people that join multiplayer lobbies just to abandon their teammates and play solo the whole match

[narrow geode]

I love multiplayer lobbies
Nobody plays accordingly most of the time
And
People kick you out for not using your mic
Sometimes for no reason too
Quality experience really

Dont forget the
"Your connection to the host has been lost"

[barren yew]

You forgot abt something

The Watchmen wake up guy hes a really fun experience

[full shore]

Original ron lore

[potent wharf]

do flashbangs just not work? like i just threw one around a corner and it was at his feet and he wasnt even stunned.

[native ingot]

I feel that AI is really snappy

Ive seen times when AI just sort of locks onto you through thin surfaces and just can keep looking at you despite being out of site

[brazen merlin]

Imagine if they added a k9

And female models….

And a genuine progression system….

And different style PDs….

I’m bored

[frail pier]

Progression system man plzzzz

[pseudo crystal]

The canine would be pretty cool. I’m not sure about everything else because the main protagonist is judge wouldn’t really be necessary unless they add career mode.

[tacit gull]

zero hour showed why a k9 is a bad idea

[frail pier]

True

I'd take a drone over a K9

[brazen merlin]

Could literally just be for more intimidation or searching for evidence / civilians hiding

[tacit gull]

Atleast a static drone would be nice

[brazen merlin]

Doesn’t have to be sickem

[frail pier]

Yes my dog should bag guns

[brazen merlin]

Not bad…

[frail pier]

lmaoo

[brazen merlin]

Bag*

You’re completely misunderstanding me

[tacit gull]

Why bother making a dog and fully animating it so it can do what trailers (something already in the game) should do

[frail pier]

It was a joke...

[brazen merlin]

Searching, not actually grabbing

Like hey they find evidence or a suspect, they bark or give different audio queues based on what they find

[frail pier]

INB4 suspect kills it

[brazen merlin]

More reason to kill them

[frail pier]

real

[tacit gull]

it dies and it gets replaced with the gas station dog corpse

[frail pier]

man...

[tacit gull]

also the narcos dog corpse

[frail pier]

MAN....

[tacit gull]

cameo

i think it appears in one more level

[wraith basin]

Progression system with money and stuff like that. You start with basic things to have and earn up money from the missions based on how well you played them.

[frail pier]

I am not buying my own gear

I expect it to be handed to me on a silver platter

[tacit gull]

we can't make commander a good mode because people would want to play that

[wraith basin]

I guess not then. Not sure if there is actually mod for something like that...

[frail pier]

Just add women to the game smh.. It's been talked about for how long now.

Too much men and meat in this game

[wraith basin]

Women are not meat then?

[frail pier]

I'm referring to men meat below the waist

[barren yew]

😭

[pseudo crystal]

I have hours on the game that doesn’t really mean anything. I’m just saying my opinion on it. 🤣

[frail pier]

To call actual people meat is wild.

[tacit gull]

I'd much rather they make a proper gamemode that isn't commander

[frail pier]

cough PvP cough

[wraith basin]

Commander 2, yeah.

[tacit gull]

I really am ready to post that kaminsky quote when that turns out a disaster too

[frail pier]

They couldn't fuck it up right?......Right?

[tacit gull]

They already did

They can fuck it up again

[wraith basin]

That was the first thing they did ages ago, wasnt it?

Pvp beta

[frail pier]

If they add it
Bet you still can't sprint

[tacit gull]

It was the first public showing in the game

And they gave out keys to influencers BEFORE giving it out to people who paid $120 to play the game

[wraith basin]

2018?

[frail pier]

What a wild idea

[tacit gull]

Think so yeah