👮ron-discussion

[neon atlas]

well i'll lock in this time and stop shooting surrendering civilians 🙏🏻

[glacial ridge]

Yeah, and the more suspects you aprehend instead of shooting and killing, the better they react too

also if they all leave injured I'd be stressed too lol

[serene mauve]

oh my god i finally beat mindjot i feel so free

[river tide]

thats one of the easier ones, wait until you get to the harder ones

[queen lily]

morale officer just removes the system for your team entirely if you successfully detain suspects

[glacial ridge]

I think the standard commander mode shouldn't of had the stress system, but I don't mind it staying in Ironman

[queen lily]

i think it should be more hardcore personally

[shy tulip]

It does its job well of punishing people who can't be bothered to use the taser two or three times

[neon atlas]

hey man. i just wanna shoot everyone.

[solid tartan]

Just died to a door trap near the end of a difficult mission…
Is it my fault for forgetting to check the door for traps? Sure
However, I’m now leaning towards the opinion that the current implementation of traps is just a recipe for frustration or busy work with no significant benefit gameplay-wise

[river tide]

let me guess, sins of the father?

actually no, ides of march

[solid tartan]

The one with hotel and veterans

[umbral oar]

how would u fix traps because i agree

[solid tartan]

Other ways in failing such as a suspect who managed to surprise me or I didn’t react quick enough or my aim wasn’t good enough in the moment or other reasons which result in failure may be frustrating but at least they feel earned. I feel like I can improve my skill or tactics to overcome them.

My impression is door traps aren’t an interesting obstacle to solve

[solid tartan]

Good question I don’t have a good answer to. Maybe someone has an epiphany or maybe the best call ends up just scrapping the feature 🤷‍♂️

[umbral oar]

prolly

[potent tulip]

I spent an embarassingly long time completing the Ides of March mission 'cus on each run I forgot about the traps at various points of the run 😭

[lone raven]

Traps are meant to impede you, hence mess up your gameplay loop of just entering and clearing. Right?

[glacial ridge]

I don't want to say that traps should be removed, but they shouldn't exist in the capacity that they do in certain maps

[lone raven]

How about a pressure plate (PPIED) that is randomised and deeper in rooms? Instead of on doors.

[glacial ridge]

I will say the map selection for traps has gotten a lot better though, it use to be every map could have traps lol

[shy tulip]

They already went from being on every map to being on just 2 or 3

[glacial ridge]

Like nice, crack den had fuckin traps

The whole beginning of the game did not play like a very good sim when u look back

[shy tulip]

RoN isn't a sim game

[lone raven]

yes it is

RON is a CAG simulator

[glacial ridge]

RoN is meant to be a sim for SWAT though...

[stone bay]

Is there any plans to add solo sniper-ish missions to RON as a DLC?

[shy tulip]

RoN has never called itself a swat simulator, that is a very specific term that people throw around

[shy tulip]

Doubt it

[glacial ridge]

What would you call it then?

[stone bay]

sigh

[lone raven]

Copy-paste SWAT 4

[glacial ridge]

SWAT 4 was considered a SWAT sim

[lone raven]

If SWAT 4 is a SWAT sim then RON is a SWAT sim

[solid tartan]

They certainly slow the player down when preparing to open/breach a door but I suppose the crux of the question is; is the gameplay of checking for traps and disarming interesting?

[shy tulip]

I think the phrase RoN uses describes it best, as "realistic as possible" or "realistic as playable." Simulator implies heavy grounded realism, RoN does not go for that.

A good comparison is Warthunder vs DCS. DCS is a simulator, War Thunder is realistic

[lone raven]

Interesting as in keeping an attention span of 2 seconds kid interested, no. Interesting as in adding another layer to certain missions, yes.

[glacial ridge]

I don't think the act of disarming traps adds much to the gameplay outside of keeping you careful

[lone raven]

It adds the gameplay of disarming traps. 😄

[glacial ridge]

But I guess that's also why I don't mind them, as a SWAT team all your movement should be intentional

[solid tartan]

Checking for traps and disarming feels like busy work chore

[lone raven]

This is like saying medical takes away from shooty so forget "healing" yourself kinda thing.

[glacial ridge]

Traps force you to slow down and be more methodical with approach

[glacial ridge]

The bleed mechanic has an entirely seperate issue that isn't related to fun

[shy tulip]

I like traps because they do force you to actually play carefully, I kinda miss the days when they were on every map, but it was a preference thing at the end of the day. Now adays you can go pretty aggressive on every map that has no traps

[glacial ridge]

Well I guess it is tied to "fun" but not in the act of bandaging itself

[glacial ridge]

I think that this is a good change, I don't think traps belong on 213 park homes, because otherwise that's saying that they just had traps laying around their house full time

[lone raven]

Variety in traps would be a better option.

[neon atlas]

War Thunder is NOT realistic 😭

[lone raven]

As would different ways of dealing with traps.

[shy tulip]

It for sure fits the term realistic, there's layers to it

[glacial ridge]

I mean technically there is? U dont gotta disarm them u can C2 the door from a distance

[neon atlas]

it's an arcade game

[shy tulip]

The arcade mode yeah, but their sim and realism mode are up there. It's again not DCS, but it is realistic

[glacial ridge]

I mean its all opinion, you can definitely play RoN like you're John Wick, but that's far from how the game was meant to be played

[lone raven]

2 ways, ok. Peek door, multitool. Leave door alone, C2.

[neon atlas]

i am not talking about ron

[glacial ridge]

For an example

[glacial ridge]

Just an example

[lone raven]

But I mean bypassing a door ambush by going through the wall would be mega.

Or sawing the door and stepping over a tripwire.

[glacial ridge]

I think it would be cool to be able to go through windows on certain maps that let you go onto a roof

[lone raven]

This is why they need to bring back ladders. So we can roof. 😄

[solid tartan]

If traps could be reworked so that they act more as area denial (randomised between missions but known within a mission ) that could potentially be more interesting

[lone raven]

Yes, hence maybe a pressure plate IED, could be anywhere.

Or an EFP that zaps through the stack. 😄

[glacial ridge]

I don't mind traps how they exist, they do exactly what they were meant to do, which is to make sure u dont just swing every door open that u see

[shy tulip]

Also to vibe check you which is always fun

Always forget about Sins and get flashbanged

[glacial ridge]

We just need a bleeding rework, hear me out, no matter how many times you bleed, the game mechanics will put u back to 50 health every single time no matter how many times u bandage

There's no real punishment for constantly being shot up a lot

[solid tartan]

But what is the difference between opening any door or see and checking everything door you see for traps and then open?

[glacial ridge]

We already heavily increased the damage the officers can take, we dont need the insane bandaging mechanic too

[shy tulip]

RoN players are not ready for player nerfs

[glacial ridge]

It slows you down, forces you to be more intentional

[shy tulip]

The forums is already a rage of them triggering the AI to max aggression and then dying

[glacial ridge]

I wouldnt mind seeing certain maps having close to 1.0 AI and some maps having current AI, there's no reason why it has to be one or another when we clearly have different types of enemies for each map

The issue with 1.0 was AI methheads being insane eagle eye shots

[lone raven]

What would the rework be? Only having a few bandaging attempts?

[tacit gull]

The bandage not healing you would be enough really

[glacial ridge]

a few bandaging rework, or even a % increase, so instead of ALWAYS healing to 50% it can be like 15% of ur current health

[lone raven]

Regarding push door tripwires, you could use pneumatic breaching equipment to open from a distance, too. Again, not in RON.

[tacit gull]

Getting shafted by the unexplained bad game mechanic tends to do that yeah

[glacial ridge]

Further, whatever that 15% was, u can never go past that number anymore, so lets say u heal to 56, u cant just go take 10 damage and go to 60 health

[lone raven]

That sounds like an easy fix. I wonder why they do it to 50% auto.

[glacial ridge]

its simple

[lone raven]

void moment

[tacit gull]

They had the healing because the bandage healing was a mishmash of the old healing systems

You had a syringe that would bring you up to health along the bandaging

[glacial ridge]

In an ideal world, the heal part of bandaging would go away

But more and more of the community have been wanting to keep the ability to John Wick through every map, and officers having a massive pool of health, the same

[tacit gull]

My guess is they couldn't find a place for the syringe or thought it would be too complicated and they just smushed them together

[lone raven]

I wonder what was in it. 😄

One of the old IFAK models had a red tube, was that the syringe?

[tacit gull]

Not sure, the super old healing had full animations for using the IFAK

[lone raven]

Woah.

[solid tartan]

Sorry, I’m not seeing that argument. “Forcing you to be more intentional” functionally just means check door for trap.

1. If trap present, disarm trap and then enter.
2. If trap not present, enter
   There’s nothing… tactically interesting about that.

[glacial ridge]

like, part of the fun from 1.0 was that it could be SO easy for u to get one tapped if u dont tackle the room correctly

[tacit gull]

That would just heal you completely and i think it was just infinite

[glacial ridge]

If there wasn't any traps at all, u would just swing every door open, how often would we really peek a door?

and hate it or love it, some maps simply make sense to have traps present

[tacit gull]

1.0 difficulty was just bullshit, it wasn't ai being smart or even ai really

[serene mauve]

I usually peek a lot of doors instead of swinging to throw flash bangs without getting fully exposed

[tacit gull]

Some doors have peek angles that are just too tiny to throw flashbangs

[neon atlas]

i just shoot through the door

get one of the ARs, press X, and hold down LMB

[glacial ridge]

Like I said, I wouldn't mind the maps with actual ex-military terrorists being on that level of combat efficiency, right now those same suspects aren't that hard to distinguish from the methheads outside of their gear

[lone raven]

This is what I don't get, why wasn't the tripwire closer to the door so even a peek would set it off?

[glacial ridge]

That's fair, I've hardly been peaking any doors lately but I've also been avoiding flashbanging every single room because I've been trying to play more and more as a sim, because it's a harder experience

[solid tartan]

Quite often actually. At the start of most missions when I’m trying to maintain stealth. Peeking has tactical benefit of being quiet and can scan portion of room/hallway with a “keyhole” fire position if needed

[violet panther]

Anyone else finding that using "Search and Secure" doesn't do anything? They just stand in there current positions and don't actually search or secure.

[glacial ridge]

I pick locks and just open doors, and i mirror gun everything before i decide what to do

[glacial ridge]

I believe they just search and secure the room u were in

[shy tulip]

Skillt issue

[violet panther]

Yea like current room, but they use to actually do it, now they don't even move

[glacial ridge]

And I noticed that the DLC maps are kinda broken with search and secure, I'd ask AI teammates to search and secure the oil rig and they just stand still

[violet panther]

This is base game though, singleplayer, no mods installed

[glacial ridge]

They do it for me in the original maps

[lone raven]

You think a trap itself isn't interesting? The fact that opening a door can blow off Judge's legs, leaving him screaming about his wife and kids in the hallway?

[fleet minnow]

They only search and secure Civilians that you have missed and they won't secure the civ in question if they don't see that civilian.

[violet panther]

Ah...so they won't search and secure suspects or evidence? For some reason I thought they did before

[hollow plume]

Do you still earn points when mods are active? I can't see the +200 or anything

[glacial ridge]

I would love for them to just search the map once bring order to chaos is completed

[tacit gull]

Search & Secure is mapwide, it picks up everything you've found and every civilian that's surrendered

[glacial ridge]

I shouldnt be the only one looking

[lone raven]

Laziest SWAT, smh.

[violet panther]

Yea I swear they use to actually search and secure evidence etc, but not anymore

[lone raven]

Then they get stressed out having to do their job.

[glacial ridge]

Literally the worst part of the game is having to find that last civilian or finding a gun just to find out it fell thru the map so ur S rank is null

[lone raven]

@tacit gull What colour was the syringe?

[tacit gull]

It was white, i don't think it was see-through

[lone raven]

White, weird.

Why the hell do they have a red tube on the old IFAK? I want to know what it is.

[glacial ridge]

judge injecting himself with white liquid 💀

[tacit gull]

can you show a pic of it?

[lone raven]

I'll DM

[neon atlas]

hey does anyone know how to access the in game console

[tacit gull]

You need mods to do it

[neon atlas]

k bet

[lone raven]

sent gratr

i really can't remember the ifak animation, damn though

they were going ALL IN

[tacit gull]

I'll look it up, gimme a sec

[copper flint]

is dorms broken

we cant get all evidence every single time

we have ran through this map for s rank like 3 or 4 times now

[glacial ridge]

Did you get the soft obj too?

U could be getting unlucky as the guns can fall through the map

[copper flint]

yes

weve been getting that too its weapons

[glacial ridge]

But I do know it's possible, I S ranked it a bit ago

[lone raven]

well that was a weird trip down memory lane

that precursor medical system they had looked interesting

[full minnow]

In Three letter triad i've been playing well only for toc to suddenly say use of force is authorized against me and then have my own guys kill me... I did not kill any civilians or do any unnecessary use of force. is there something i'm missing?

my only guess is the cs gas i'm using is counting as friendly fire but that wouldn't make any sense because we all have gas masks

don't know if i'm unlucky or just stupid.... maybe both.. gonna try again without any gas

[shy tulip]

Are they wearing gas masks? It might be that.

There also is like one civ on that map. Were you also uh, executing surrendered suspects?

[full minnow]

I was not and they did all have gas masks

I'm about to do a run of it with no gas at all to see if it happens again

[elder nova]

I finally figured out why blue and red teams never make sense
it turns out when they go two different directions, one of each team will go in each direction
so if I then call red team to stack up on a doorway, one person is close by and stacks up instantly
but the other guy is across the room paired with a blue teamer
because that totally makes sense and definitely doesn't completely get in the way of how I was trying to manage my team

[modern plover]

RoN has been in the Topseller List for the entire sale now

It's even on #4 right now

Maybe it's time to grab it myself

[shy hinge]

yes

[lone raven]

Geralt the Breacher.

[shy tulip]

Also in the top 100 most players right now

[modern plover]

Best fictional Character hands down o7

[warped cave]

I'm about to get mods on my laptop 🔥

and at some point get them on my main pc

[modern plover]

Is the game fun even when playing alone ?

[elder nova]

I would say yes considering that's basically how I always play it

[lone raven]

Legit.

TW3 is awesome.

[modern plover]

Are the missions replayable ? Or is it a "once and done" -type of game ?

[neon atlas]

i got the game like 3 hours ago and ive been having some good damn fun

it's just it's a bit more of an RP oriented game. i.e, you can't execute surrendering civilians and suspects as if it was a GTA mission

[elder nova]

they're very replayable
partially from the difficulty
Sins of the Father for example is fun to run through even if I've already beat it

[neon atlas]

it's hard too

i keep dying whenever i peak corners xd and it's not like you can save or anything.. gotta restart all the way from the beginning!

[elder nova]

that's a big part of why it's replayable tbh
the difficulty and CQB engagements make even familiar maps a challenge

[modern plover]

I'm aware of that and if I wanted to shoot everything that moves I'd play a different FPS game :P

[elder nova]

okay a suspect just came up behind another suspect and shot straight through him severely injuring my leg
I couldn't even shoot back because I would've killed the guy who was just standing there defiantly
such bullshit

[neon atlas]

lol im on my 4th replay of this mission in a row and this is the first time i've had a suspect full on run at me

there's new stuff every time uboot up.. it's silly and it's fun

[modern plover]

Guess I'll grab it tomorrow

It's RoN or Ghost Recon Breakpoint (with the FPS mod) but I don't feel good giving Ubishit Money

[lone raven]

Easy choice.

[modern plover]

(I'm craving to play an immersive FPS game currently)

[elder nova]

so suspects can shoot me through other suspects
but friendly swat AI will dome civilians if there's a suspect on the other side
dorms just has people in all the right spaces to make me suffer AI hell

[neon atlas]

i wish i could have unlimited flash grenades lol

i know it ruins realism but that small bit of arcadism would make the game more fun for me

[restive ferry]

Get gunfighter mod

You get more slots for you and your team

[neon atlas]

dude

people don't like. make trainers for this game. quite annoying

[tacit gull]

"I wish the game would play itself"

[neon atlas]

nobody said that btw

[restive ferry]

I wish the game would play itself

[tacit gull]

[neon atlas]

somebody said that btw

[lone raven]

Football Manager, SWAT edition.

[elder nova]

why would you need a trainer in ready or not?

[restive ferry]

Idek what a trainer is

[elder nova]

I know in many online games they're used to farm levels

[tacit gull]

It's basically just cheats

[neon atlas]

infinite flashbangs 😂

[elder nova]

oh so the game is too hard or somethign

[neon atlas]

for me yeah but i bought the game 3 hours ago so that might tell something

[fleet minnow]

Use your teammates, don't go in alone.

They have Flashbangs too.

[tacit gull]

And they're terrible at throwing them

[fleet minnow]

Better than nothing.

Well, for the record I gave them Nine-Bangers.

[lone raven]

Oh hell yeah I'm down for infinite flashbangs.

Spam them.

[tacit gull]

If the suspect wasn't in the middle of the room nothing might be better since it atleast doesn't create smoke

[quiet leaf]

When is the winter sale ending?

[tacit gull]

It says on the front store page

[frail pier]

My brother in christ they do though😭 (wemod)

[restive ferry]

Just learn to play without cheats 💀

[frail pier]

Fair take tbh. A 100 slot mod will work too if you wanna spam flashbangs.

[restive ferry]

Just normal gunfighter gives you more than enough if you put them on all your SWAT AI

[subtle wave]

Is my game glitched? I bought the two DLC's and now I don't have access to the helmet options I had before I before I bought the DLC's. The DLC helmets seem to have replaced them? Is there anyway for me to get them back

[glacial ridge]

Each map can be done in multiple different ways, and each map has enemies in a different location each time you play it

[midnight hare]

Do i only gain access to the scar heavy in multiplayer if i have the DLC?

[glacial ridge]

I have almost 200 hours in this game, im far from amazing at this game and I can confidently say that even though I've done every single map, I can still find 100 different ways and methods of doing each one to improve in some way whether its less casualties, faster times etc

[midnight hare]

I have home invasion but not dark waters, and i can select and use the scar heavy in singleplayer. Havent tried multi yet though.

Do i not need DLC to use it at all in multiplayer? Is the DLC just so you can start and play the map? (S)

[shy tulip]

If you have any mods, that is probably why

[glacial ridge]

should be unlocked all together, you need the DLC for the maps in singleplayer and the cosmetics

[shy tulip]

The weapons are part of the base game

[midnight hare]

oh, that is generous from the devs, lovely.

[neon atlas]

lmao this would be awesome

[subtle wave]

I think I have like 4 for a mod menu

[midnight hare]

It would have been fair game for them to say, if you want the scar heavy, buy the dlc, but no, they gave it out! Cheers!

[neon atlas]

wemod refuses to work for me... so weird

[glacial ridge]

ur a mod, but ik ur not in the tech support, my game is NOT saving my progress. I Just did an A+ run of Carriers of the Vine with a friend which is my best playthough of that map and it is NOT saved

It's seriously infuriating to not have my progress save ever

[midnight hare]

Yo @shy tulip you recommended me to browse the AI mods to find something that suits me, but there are so many options. Is there any single one that is considered the most realistic? Would you give me your personal opinion mayhaps?

[glacial ridge]

It doesn't even save my loadouts\

Been trying to ask for help around the discord for like a week and no1 has had answers

[shy tulip]

Cosmetic mods may break your game, try removing them all temporarily and see if it fixes

[shy tulip]

That is a known issue for coop

[shy tulip]

I don't play with AI mods, so I couldn't say. You could ask people in #🔧modding-chat what they recommend

[tepid walrus]

hey it would be so cool if you could play with friends and choose to fill the team with bots, that would be really great

[glacial ridge]

It does it during singleplayer too, I have 100% completion but no '99 Swat attire because it unresolved like half my missions to 100%

[midnight hare]

i think there is a mod for that..

[shy tulip]

Try replaying those missions in singleplayer, unresolved means you didn't complete all objectives (including soft objectives)

Afterwards replay port

[tepid walrus]

Ye but i dont want to use mods

[midnight hare]

hell there is a mod for everything. I should say, "so ive heard" there is a mod for that.

[glacial ridge]

One of them was literally a S rank ...

[midnight hare]

Modding in this game is, absurdly easy to do, but i understand where you are coming from.

[shy tulip]

Did you do it in singleplayer or COOP?

[glacial ridge]

Commander Mode

[tepid walrus]

?

[shy tulip]

Hmmm, I'm not sure, does it save if you play in SP again? Try a simple map like lethal obssess or gas

[midnight hare]

Like, wanting to just play the vanilla game, i can understand. other than that, i dont understand why you wouldnt use mods because its extremely easy to install them.

[glacial ridge]

I would have to play all the unresolved maps in commander again to get it, but the maps remain unresolved

[tepid walrus]

Ye?

[glacial ridge]

So when I relaunch I'd have to do it all again if I want the outfit again

[shy tulip]

You can do it in quick play

Score wise I mean

[glacial ridge]

I mean regardless, it's like 7-8 maps. I shouldn't have to play 7-8 diff maps on launch to get the reward I already earned

[shy tulip]

Yeah I can't help ya there, it's either the COOP bug, an anti-virus messing with the same saving, or file permissions not letting it save

[glacial ridge]

I mean obviously I'll have to go back and play them at some point, but I don't want to do that until they start to actually save

[midnight hare]

Yeah. There is a game-built-in mod screen at the bottom of the menu. If you want the really juicy stuff though, you just hop on Nexus Mods, (which is where most of the mods from the built in place come from anyway) log in, download the mods you want, put the PAK file in the PAK folder of the game and thats it. Its 2 minutes to look it up how to do it.

[tepid walrus]

I try later thanks!

[glacial ridge]

I was told by somebody in here that mod.io is not to be trusted, just use nexus and manually download them

[midnight hare]

Well, ive never had issues with mod.io, or heard of others complaining about it. I would also prefer the manual download though! Its extremely easy to do, just search it up on yt> "how to install mods ready or not manually" or smth.

[neon atlas]

no mod menus though...

[tepid walrus]

The in-game mod manager is not good it delete my stats

[coral bane]

how do ppl complete elephant without a civilian dying from the shooters?

[shy tulip]

Skill and luck

[shy tulip]

Nothing about the in-game menu should delete your progress unless you're crashing/corrupting from buggy mods

which can happen even if you manually install

[tepid walrus]

Yeah

[coral bane]

ohh

[tepid walrus]

And after it deleted all my stats

[glacial ridge]

Firstly, there's roughly 2 mins before they start shooting so u need to move fast, second, the stress system in the game really plays a big role on active shooter missions

If u are being too loud, yelling at everyone shooting unsuppressed etc. they are more likely to start shooting civs

[coral bane]

oh?

[glacial ridge]

It's tough on singleplayer because u cant properly send one of ur teams to go clear another floor why u get bottom floor, but ur best method is to clear both floors at the same time tbh on MP

[robust yarrow]

There's 2 shooters on each wing so as soon as you get 2 head over to the other wing

[neon atlas]

LMAOOOO DUDE WTF

IM ON LIKE THE 4TH MISSION, I SENT OUT MY SQUAD TO SHOTGUN A DOOR AND THEY ALL DIED

they all blew up 😭 😭 holy shit

all 4 of them 😭 😭

[covert aurora]

that would be lethal obession?

[neon atlas]

whats lethal obession

[fleet minnow]

That's why you should be peeking the doors :D

[covert aurora]

the name of the mission

[neon atlas]

it's the one with the cabin

[covert aurora]

yeah that's lethal obession

[neon atlas]

the super booby trapped cabin

[neon atlas]

why do that when i can get Martinez to do it 🙏🏻

holy shit i shot a guy like 13 times, he laid down, played dead, then when i got up close he came back to life and shot me

is this why we restrain the "dead"?

[fleet minnow]

Upon entry, I suggest a.... Diamond fall in position.

[fleet minnow]

Yep, you don't know if they're just pretending.

[covert aurora]

yep!

[neon atlas]

lmao fair

[glacial ridge]

yeah dont worry lethal obsession is the map with the most traps, if ur patient its also the easiest map to get S rank in

I'd have a S rank for that map but the game refuses to track my accomplishments rn

nobody likes a beggar. Just go find a friend that has the DLC, only the host needs the DLC to play the map

[nimble patio]

its 40 cents lmao was worth a shot who knows maybe someone wouldve actually done it

[shy hinge]

why are the mods deleting our game screenshots in ron media?

[stable kernel]

#🤝rules🤝

[nimble patio]

i farted

[devout lantern]

are the ironman achievements bugged because i got the ruined developers watch but i didnt get the two achievements with it

[obsidian hornet]

I wish we had the FN F2000 scope for the F90

[restive ferry]

That’s brutal ngl

[devout lantern]

im finna crash out 🤓

[glacial ridge]

im finna crash out if this game doesnt stop not saving my fuckin progress

im to the point where the only thing i can do left is improve on my mission times and scores but they dont even save

[pale raptor]

does anyone know if there is any active delta force or us special forces mods

[chrome wagon]

It kinda sucks that mods that only change how stuff look effect score

[formal sphinx]

any tips for getting a good grade on the school shooting map?

[thorny perch]

Grenade launcher's and be very very fast

Don't do bomb's first do them later

[shy tulip]

They do nothing but say 'this is an unofficial score'

[glacial ridge]

At least they get an unofficial score

[oak acorn]

RoN should have a leaderboard

[glacial ridge]

I just get cucked by unresolved and I don't have any mods at all

[oak acorn]

fastest times, highest scoring, yadda yadda yadda.

[formal sphinx]

ok sounds good but which grenade luanchers? gas, rubber pellets, flash bangs?

[thorny perch]

Probably flashbangs

Just make sure you hit near them or hit them directly

[formal sphinx]

ok bet sounds good, thank you dawg

[glacial ridge]

Eh, as cool as it would be, it would just be "who can be john wick the fastest"

[formal sphinx]

also how can I be faster in this game???

[thorny perch]

Meth

[oak acorn]

low ready

[glacial ridge]

Low ready

[oak acorn]

different armour types help as well.

[glacial ridge]

It's a slightly faster walk

[thorny perch]

Also yeah low ready, it makes you a little faster press spacebar to do it

If you want good protection use Ceramic's, not steel that'll also make you faster

[oak acorn]

Steel is peak.

[formal sphinx]

oh ok cool, I already use ceramics

[thorny perch]

They suck right now

[oak acorn]

or be the clown that uses kevlar

[glacial ridge]

I haven't noticed steel give me enough protection over ceramic to be worth using tbhn

[oak acorn]

I prefer steel because my ceramics keep breaking.

[thorny perch]

Thats what it's meant to do

[formal sphinx]

ill use steel some other time, but for now I have to use ceramic to kill these colombine mfs

[glacial ridge]

To be real, the armor the officers have in general makes you super hard to kill now, because jfc we take so many bullets to kill now. I only die in situations where no amount of armor is saving me

[oak acorn]

tbh I cant tell the difference between ceramic and steel when I use em

[thorny perch]

Ceramic eats all the damage you'd receive from the bullet but will break when shot enough, there's also a little bit of speed penalty (I think)

Steel no clue

@oak acorn Read this doc

[oak acorn]

yeah looking at numbers cant change the vibes I get though

[formal sphinx]

which enterance for the school shooting map is the best?

[oak acorn]

I just take front and go through red door on the left

[formal sphinx]

just tried that and got shidded on, might be a skill issue tho so im going to try that enterance again

[glacial ridge]

u running with the AI? Just let them go in first with a shield

[formal sphinx]

yeah im running with ai, ill try that shield tactic too

[glacial ridge]

My go-to tactic was for myself to run mirror, 2 guys run shield on both red and blue, and then 1 guy runs a launcher the last one runs breaching shotgun or ram

[stone bay]

Question. Did I join this server way to early? Everyone got officer, not me though. Lmao

[sand gazelle]

L

[jade apex]

Any plans to revamp the evidence gathering system?

Not a fan of spending upwards of 20 minutes mindlessly around to find a weapon that might be not even be present

Going insane

[glacial ridge]

Instead of sending officers to comb rooms at a time, they should be able to search the map for additional evidence and hostages if bring order to chaos is completed

[jade apex]

Agreed

I would love to see forensics looking for items. Much like the rescue teams grab restrained people

[glacial ridge]

I just ask for basic additions instead of new additions, this is our team looking for evidence so no new AI just new commands

[jade apex]

Just found a gun... INSIDE THE GROUNDDD!!!!

[oak acorn]

hate it when that happens

[glacial ridge]

tell me u at least got gun highlights on too

[jade apex]

Gun highlights?

[oak acorn]

outlined evidence

setting in accessability

[glacial ridge]

You can outline weapons in the settings

It'll outline them in a very easy to see yellow color

[jade apex]

Under which options?

[glacial ridge]

I want to say accessability

[oak acorn]

i just said

[jade apex]

My bad. I enabled it now. Thanks lads

[glacial ridge]

Is highlighting weapons immersion breaking? Yeah, but I'd rather lose some immersion than look for 30 mins for 1 gun

[jade apex]

I hope they add NPCs which search for evidence once the area is safe

[oak acorn]

listen, games are meant to be enjoyable.

not fucking annoying

[glacial ridge]

That would be a huge QOL to have the AI help you find the evidence, it's literally just u looking for evidence at the end like bro do ur job

[jade apex]

one time I was doing Relaspe (hospital mission) and one of my Ai teammates went across the entire map to get a piece of evidence right at the beginning

That Ai is my hero

[pure blaze]

I just got 3 different cheaters in the last hour using godmode and speedhacks in public lobbies. Idk if this is bad luck or if its starting to become a problem.

[jade apex]

Cheating in a game like Ready Or Not is wild. I don't understand why they don't do it in single player or play with friends.

Assuming they have friends, which might be giving cheaters too much credit

[glacial ridge]

Welp I thought the game finally saved my loadouts at least, but it still isnt even doing that

Whatever happened after I did Rust Belt, not a single thing during any part of the game is saving. And before that mission it was picking and choosing what mission progress to save. And now none of it saves.

And nobody has fucking answers on how to HELP me play the game properly. I had a crash issue that just went away on its own because no help there either

[restive ferry]

They are trying to get to diamond

[glacial ridge]

cheating on a game involving going up against AI is insane

[restive ferry]

Dudes want zero challenge 😭

[glacial ridge]

Literally, every single map in this game is beatable, on S rank too. Because its AI. Ur not even going up against other players. And there isn't even highscores. Like what r we doin

[restive ferry]

I think the game should be harder too lol

[glacial ridge]

oh 100% lol, the amount of health we have is insane as is, and I've already talked about how bandages suck in this game earlier

[restive ferry]

Give us a hard mode or something

Some of the AI mods feel really good but they always have an absurd amount of enemies

[glacial ridge]

The main issue to me, is that the AI doesn't feel like they should be as good as they should be. I go against a group of terrorists and their skills are just as good as a big meth house. Makes no sense. But pre 1.0 Ready or Not everyone was way too good. They need to find the sweet spot, give a variable AI skill level because right now they just have armor/no armour or high/low end weapons

Like call me crazy, but the fear of being 1 tapped for not checking all my corners doesnt exist anymore really, because of the amount of health our officers have now. And part of that sucks.

[restive ferry]

People complain about being head tapped but it literally never happens to me lol

[glacial ridge]

i noticed most of the AI aims really low, because I never get to kick doors down lol

[blissful storm]

same I hear ppl complaining about getting oneshot all the time but I got 36 hours and never happened to me yet

also hear about people getting wallbanged, but for me when the AI does that they're inaccurate af

[glacial ridge]

I've been headshot once since they nerfed AI, but pre-1.0 I was headshot a lot

[shy tulip]

I do not believe it is physically possible to get one shotted (besides grenades), you have to get shot a few times

maybe the math doesn't check out, but that's how it feels

[glacial ridge]

I was already lower on health when I got one tapped around a corner

But once again, it should be. If I go around a corner without checking it and I get blasted in the back by a shotgun, that should be it. I'm dead.

[blissful storm]

yeah u can def take way too many shots in this game without dying, wish they added some sort of difficulty setting

[glacial ridge]

Agree, a lot of people complained about how fast you can die in this game so now it's infinitely easier to John Wick maps, ur basically forcing urself to play slower and tactical now, and it's not difficult

[old scarab]

hey does anybody know how many rounds one bean bag has?

like if i take only 1 in primary ammunition

[stable kernel]

8 I believe

[blissful storm]

I see my friend die all the time in like seconds somehow while for me the suspects can barely hit me, and when they do its not fatal, idk its weird

[glacial ridge]

he probably got shot a lot of times within a second, it's still possible to die really fast if you put yourself in a really bad situation

[blissful storm]

true

[glacial ridge]

freakin earlier me and my friend started the hotel mission, we enter the 2nd floor i check with my mirrorgun if it's clear, it was, but soon as we enter we get pinched by like 3 enemies

we failed that mission within less than 2 minutes lol

[blissful storm]

had the same kind of thing happen in the yacht mission a couple of weeks ago

[glacial ridge]

I finally got the achievement to arrest saheid on that map before he could tell the suspects to kill hostages lol

[inner moth]

I want them to continue the lore and add some missions to the main game not just dlc

^ maybe others are already satisfied with the lore. Idk. But im not

[shy tulip]

Soon™️ (maybe)

[inner moth]

I saw shayne made lore vids on dlc. Are they an actual continuation of the main maps or just an extension/side lore?

[shy tulip]

Err, I think the DLCs are more connected to each other than the base game. The eco guys started in DLC 1 and then continued in DLC 2. I guess you could say that TRIAD is related to the base game though, not the missions, but the backstory lore.

[inner moth]

Yeah. Like the spyder. The main game ends with port hokan and it seems like the lore can go in any direction after port hokan. I was just wondering if this continuation continues on in dlcs.

[shy tulip]

Or I guess the car dealer story continued in narcos, I think? One of those missions, not exactly a lore expert

[honest kettle]

I was wondering how the game ties in the missions. How does Elephant tie into the rest of the lore? (Sorry for jumping into y'alls conversation lmao)

[inner moth]

Well i domt think that one does

https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PL0Tf7vYKWoJEzo45fM2E9o0GnNlmq6isu&si=NUhoqOJIdvwsJjLk

[shy tulip]

It doesn't in the context of grand crime organizations, it's an independent mass shooting, you do see mentions of the college and news on other maps though

[inner moth]

Ive watched all of those vids except the dlc ones

[honest kettle]

Can you imagine a Ready or Not / Payday crossover?

[shy tulip]

I also want to say that there's some NPC dialogue in HQ about it because of that one officer having a breakdown, but idk

[inner moth]

Ok so youre saying that one of the dlc maps had some more info about the amos voll lore?

[shy tulip]

I am not saying that

probably?

I haven't seen a lot of the lore tbf, so most of it is my own thoughts.

[inner moth]

Gotcha. Its fine. Ig its my fault for not getting the dlcs 😅

[honest kettle]

I managed to get the yacht mission done, that one is kinda fun

[inner moth]

That one and oil rig look real fun

[honest kettle]

I ran oil rig with a crew and got RK'ed for no reason

[inner moth]

Whats rk'ed mean

[glacial ridge]

Just make friends with people who have the dlc brother, only the host needs the dlc maps for you to play them

[honest kettle]

Random killed

[glacial ridge]

So you can still try them

[inner moth]

^ facts

[honest kettle]

^ This. I did that for a while then ended up buying it since it's on sale

[glacial ridge]

I just buy them because I support the game

[honest kettle]

Basically got team killed (RK means random killed)

[glacial ridge]

And I’m fortunate to have the money to spend on the game

[honest kettle]

^Same

I found Voll's Doll House the weirdest mission

[inner moth]

Ill be honest with you...

The volls doll house single handedly destroyed all my innocence in one day

[honest kettle]

Same, I didn't even realise that Mrs. Voll can attack you if you get too close

[inner moth]

I didnt even realize what i saw or what was going on until i saw a lore vid about it.

[honest kettle]

I watched one of my AI get slapped by her lmfao

[inner moth]

I ran through the basement, and back then i was more worried about staying alive and getting suspects that i didnt realize what all of it meant until i watched shaynes video.

And bc it was before 1.0 i had no idea what it was about. So the way they added briefings is really nice

[honest kettle]

I dont read the briefings 😄

[inner moth]

Hahaha thats nice lol

[honest kettle]

I just roll in guns blazing and hope for the best

[inner moth]

Its very fun to do that

[honest kettle]

I had one civ in the kindergarten mission that pulled a phone out on me and I swear I almost magdumped them with my B1301

[inner moth]

Pre 1.0 even if you confirm killed suspects TOC didnt just suddenly abort the mission for you xD

[honest kettle]

TOC gets really annoying. Some friends and I ran a pretend mission of No Russian and we had him yapping in our ear about "remember your ROE" lmfao

[inner moth]

I also miss the old cheryssa farm map

Idk why they just completely got rid of it

[honest kettle]

Gas Station has to be my fav

[inner moth]

Also is it just me or do you guys also flinch?

[honest kettle]

I did on the meth house mission (the one you enter from the garage and have two houses to search / incapacitated minor)

[inner moth]

This game makes me flinch so much 😂. Its unique in that sense. I rarely flinched in fps until i plaued this one

[honest kettle]

I miss sprinting 😭

[inner moth]

I flinched a lot on port hokan (i try and go solo all the time without any team)

[blissful storm]

I definitely do when the suspects surprise me, was about to mirror a door and a suspect with an AR just opened the door and stared at me for 5 seconds without shooting, scared the shit out of me and it was also on ironman mode

[honest kettle]

That's me with civs that pull out their phones.. like why would you do that to the SWAT member that is probably adrenalined to the MAX

I may or may not have gunned down a civ that's done that 👀

[inner moth]

I also got beaten by miss voll before and lost all progress on iron man

[blissful storm]

Accidentally shot a civ in the stomach because of that, atleast she lived lol

[inner moth]

What about when the civ is taken hostage?

I usually end up losing both suspect and civ in those processes. Its too hard trying to aim at the suspect and not hit civilian only to have suspect shoot the civilian bc i took too long :/

AND i use the 12x scope too 😂. Major skill issue ig

[blissful storm]

I can headshot the suspect in most cases without killing the civ, my AI keeps killing the civ though, and I had a situation once where I entered a room and didnt know they were holding a hostage as I magdumped them

[inner moth]

Ig my biggest question is whats the difference between buying dlc to play those maps vs just playing mod maps. To me the main game maps are distinct because of the lore continuation.

[serene mauve]

i though mindjot was hard but the post office is going to make me cry, wow this is insane

[glacial ridge]

The post office definitely isn’t a fun one lol, that mail room sucks

[serene mauve]

my ai teammates keep randomly killing civillians for no reason

just clearing a room and randomly the rescue civillians objective fails because the ai executed a random guy

[glacial ridge]

I rarely had that issue, it was less my officers fault and more AI not being smart aka hostages running in front of gunfire

[serene mauve]

oh they take hostages? that might be why

[glacial ridge]

I call any non suspects a hostage

[serene mauve]

the layout is so confusing and obstructed for me to notice
oh ok

[void trellis]

They help you during and after

[serene mauve]

yeah if you press 6 in the command menu they automatically do all the boring stuff like arrests and evidence

[void trellis]

Then don’t press it

[serene mauve]

what

[void trellis]

By default they’ll secure and ziptie any contact found

[restive ferry]

They should make it so it takes 60 seconds to bag 1 piece of evidence

[serene mauve]

yeah but if you press the thing they'll go and search for anything you've missed so you don't have to wander around at the end like juicebox said

[restive ferry]

And if you let go of “f” it resets

[void trellis]

no because it doesn’t take that long irl

I need a good ATAKs patch mod

[lone raven]

Set up an Evidence Collection Point. Glove and suit up. Set up routes through the crime scene. 2 hours later...

[lone raven]

If you check Ready or Mod discord, there's a few. Someone just realised a bunch of lore-friendly patches.

[void trellis]

Not ATAKs

not ATAK patches

[robust yarrow]

Had that happen too many times, so glad they added the TOC line granted it's my fault cuz I didn't PID properly

[karmic niche]

9mm or .45?

[robust yarrow]

I meant to reply to this*

[robust yarrow]

The Lord's caliber

[karmic niche]

🙏 amen

USP 45 or M1911

[robust yarrow]

2 world wars

I unironically love the M45

[karmic niche]

Real

[robust yarrow]

They should add a 10mm pistol ngl

[karmic niche]

Fr like a glock 20 or something

The chunky glock

[pliant parrot]

does the breaching shotgun have a limited amount of ammo

in the reserve

[lone raven]

Pretty sure it does.

Just like the chemlights are 10.

[robust yarrow]

Thicc glock

[thorny perch]

i like my glock's chambered in 5.56

[serene mauve]

where the hell is this last civilian in valley of the dolls im gonna go insane

there should at least be like some sort of sound cue if you have a surrendered but not arrested guy to get an idea where they are

[stone stump]

the last civ should run to you

[robust yarrow]

Could be the maid in the room with cleaning stuffs ground floor, also sometimes a guy spawns in the toilet next to the theater room, also make sure you cleared the hedges thoroughly, and the garden as well

[karmic niche]

yes

[outer jackal]

are there any other helmets to equip? im stuck with just the default and i have a mod which unlocks everything that you can customize ur character with

[jolly verge]

Outdated mod

[outer jackal]

oh

[hexed kernel]

i hate it so much when you ask ai to move in and clear and one of them just wanders off somewhere to go around

i know theyre trying to flank but still

[stone stump]

no, they aren't trying to flank

[hexed kernel]

then why do they walk all the way around

[umbral oar]

it’s bug

[robust yarrow]

Bad pathing

[restive ferry]

They def haven’t added proper pathing on half the maps

[neon atlas]

does anyone know a sprint mod

[amber dock]

No actual mod that adds full on sprint animation etc. Just mods that increases speed values

[neon atlas]

that's fine, where can i find it at?

also quick q. how much ammo does the breaching shotgun have?

[amber dock]

I am not certain but it’s a lot. I’m pretty sure it has enough ammo to breach all doors on every map and still have spare

[neon atlas]

alright. im on that one mission where the cabin is mega booby trapped so im breaching from a distance lol

[amber dock]

That works I guess

[neon atlas]

... the one door i don't breach blows me up in the face. awesome

[hardy plinth]

Hope this is not me being annoying
But is the game in a better state now since early 2024?

[amber dock]

Yes.

But that’s not to say the game is in a good state

[neon atlas]

yeah the game's honestly just alright. i'm having some alright fun with it though that's fs

[amber dock]

Cause the game is still plagued by issues that still haven’t really been fixed

[hardy plinth]

I remember even after the big fix that reworked AI behaviour and speed it was still just meh in terms of performance and bad in terms of online multiplayer

[neon atlas]

i definitely would not buy thsi game full price lol

[amber dock]

I agree

Only sale

[hardy plinth]

I'm gonna sound like a broken record but it's such a shame because there's an amazing game underneath

[amber dock]

Yeah it is

Just poorly planned and executed

[hardy plinth]

Do you have any experience with online multiplayer?

When I played with my friend, the net code was just hamsters running on a wheel

[amber dock]

Public multiplayer not since like 2022. With friends it’s worked great

[hardy plinth]

Hits not registering, taser not working at all for the client etc

In early 2024 at least

[amber dock]

Only thing I’ll mention in Mp is if you’re going for S ranks. There is a annoying bug where only the host can see the evidence

[neon atlas]

there really really is!! i was pretty excited for this game lol

[hardy plinth]

Oh I haven't had that

[neon atlas]

also is it just me or do you guys think lighting in this game isn't good either?

[hardy plinth]

Is that a bug that always happens now?

[amber dock]

It’s most prevalent on border map and farm in my experience but it was like some months ago

But from what I’ve heard it’s still a issue on some maps

[hardy plinth]

Have they done anything about the lack of transparency in weapon stats?

[amber dock]

No

[hardy plinth]

😐

They love to just have you guess huh

Time to pull up the Google spreadsheet again then

Were there any changes at all to weapons? Only a handful of them were worth using

[amber dock]

The only reason why I don’t care, is because Beanbag is my most used gun because of everything behind S ranks.

[restive ferry]

Just use G3A3

[amber dock]

And I always use same lethal guns so I don’t care about stats

If it shoots it works

[hardy plinth]

Yeah there should've been more non-lethal weapons

There's only 2 really

And only one of them is truly consistent 🫘

[restive ferry]

Taser, pepper spray, bean bag, paintball gun, gas, flash bangs, stingers

[amber dock]

Paintball is too weak

Rest you can’t bring enough to take care of all suspects and civs

[hardy plinth]

Yeah but I just mean the guns

There's no reason to take anything other than pepperball AR or beanbag ever when going for S rank

Other than that stinger launcher is the best "weapon"

[neon atlas]

ive been rockin the mp5 glock and taser

[hardy plinth]

I liked the pepperball gun though

[neon atlas]

and then i have me and all my teammates with a bunchhh of flashes. leaves me no need for any other non-lethal imo lol

[hardy plinth]

It's just not very consistent but nice when you're on client side and beanbag shots don't always register

Is there any reason to use flash over stinger?

[amber dock]

In practice it’s more just what you prefer

[hardy plinth]

Stinger felt more consistent to me

[amber dock]

It’s either CS or stinger for me

[hardy plinth]

And you don't get flashed

[neon atlas]

no clue. i bought this game today

[umbral oar]

stinger is stronger but can give authorized use of force if it hits civ

[molten wadi]

hi guys, achievement "Big Shell Specialist" correctly works?

[umbral oar]

yes

[molten wadi]

i cant complete that achieve, 10-15 times i completed more 2 kills in distance

Does it make a big difference what condition the suspect is in and what kind of weapon and bullets you shoot with?

[umbral oar]

just need a headshot with any gun, and cant be surrendered

[molten wadi]

I did it a few times and it doesn't count for me, I shot from a helipad, from one corner to another corner - something's wrong

[lone raven]

I don't think incap works, must kill

[hardy plinth]

So it's authorised then 👀

[molten wadi]

Should alternate killing two people, one after the other? Or it's doesn't matter what in order?

[amber dock]

Doesn’t matter what order but has to be 2 headshots and from 15m and more

[molten wadi]

30m, and I don't get the achievement when I do this

ooh, ok, will try more and more

[amber dock]

Yeah that’s the issue with Ron achievements gotta keep trying until they pop

[molten wadi]

Maybe there is some way to shake up achievements or i can track progress in a file?

Or I really do a headshot with insufficient range. I don't really understand what 30m or more is. I roughly imagine that it is from the helipad spawn to the far platform or shooting from one corner of the platform to another corner

[jolly verge]

This what 30m looks like #🎨ron-screenshots-and-art message

[molten wadi]

You can congratulate me, I just got this achievement, thanks for the image

now i have only one last achieve "Sleeper Agent"

[restive ferry]

Real pros S rank with lethal guns equipped

[hardy plinth]

Why do they equip lethal weapons

Just for cardio?

[neon atlas]

lmao this was actually true

this is like the one map i have an S on 😭 the rest i have F's D's and E's

[robust yarrow]

Honestly pepperball for every map except the ones with gas mask guys and terrorists

[neon atlas]

i use strictly lethal weaponry

except i do fw flashbangs 💔

[robust yarrow]

I fw cs gas fr

[neon atlas]

lmaoo dude i might start using it

[karmic wraith]

Game says I've got to complete all the main levels in order to unlock some new outfits, does it work if I do that online or I must complete those in single player only?

[potent stratus]

I just accidentally fucking shot Jock Fremont because he ran at me when I was coming out of a room

[oak acorn]

Online is fine.

[true laurel]

i shot a kid

accidentally in the same way as you did

[karmic wraith]

Then I’m really lost and don’t know what level I’m missing

[robust yarrow]

Gas gas gas

[raven cove]

are there still plans for female characters? its been 3 years or so

[robust yarrow]

There are no women in Los Sueños

[neon atlas]

womp womp

[tacit gull]

There never were plans for them, but they might come in the future

[latent cosmos]

has anyone gotten the hermit w/firing someone?

[jolly verge]

Firing officers does not affect The Hermit nor the watch

[latent cosmos]

thank u bro

[humble coral]

as it should be

[shy hinge]

what about all the civs?

[robust yarrow]

Those are illusions created by the USIA

It's all part of the cycle

[neon atlas]

hey yknow that 1-4 optic

how do i like unzoom it? it's hella zoomed. cant it go from 1-4x zoom

[copper silo]

use secondary sight

also its not zoom....theres a small iron sight on top

[neon atlas]

oh. Fuck

what loadout did u guys use on elephant

[gray heath]

is way out west and hanged man bugged? I did them both and didn't get either achievement

[jolly verge]

Nope, you used something that not allowed or did not get at least C grade

[gray heath]

I got an S rank while doing hanged man and only used flashbangs and the taser, my primary and secondary had no magazines in them and I didn't even use any of the tools

[jolly verge]

Checking mag in weapon and using lockpick will fail it

[gray heath]

that's dumb

so basically it's bugged, because I don't think they'd intentionally have it so checking the magazine fails achievement

[jolly verge]

Actually they do, you can also use swat ai to kill everyone

and they can use any tool, but not shields

[gray heath]

can they use any weapon? or do I have to give them tasers/revolvers too

[jolly verge]

any weapon

[old blaze]

Is there a reason for why I can't put Paks from Mod.io and Nexus

[jolly verge]

Can you be more specific? You download mod, unzip it then drag and drop into paks folder

[gray heath]

I can restrain suspects, apply bandages, secure evidence and reload, correct?

[jolly verge]

Yeap

and kick doors as well

[copper silo]

judge is built different i would've quit a week after duty in los suenos

guy really stops his own arterial bleeding

[gray heath]

he can break both legs and still walk just fine like nothing happened

[valid escarp]

adrenaline is one hell of a drug

[gray heath]

one time I got shot in the head and judge could still keep going for the rest of the mission

[valid escarp]

he's just built different like that

[copper silo]

judge the kind of guy to break both arms and just grunt

[old blaze]

Yes that exactly

[latent cosmos]

@onyx matrix lower cd here

for elephant ive heard people will use lighter armor/none to be faster, i went thru it with ceramic plating just fine though

[onyx matrix]

i use heavy armor.

[latent cosmos]

full?

[onyx matrix]

ja.

[latent cosmos]

i used full too, but that wont slow u down i dont believe

had full/heavy armor, its the plating that affects speed i think

[onyx matrix]

I use uhh..

Ceramic i assume.

[jolly verge]

Acceleration only, top speed is the same and heavy vest with ceramic gives only 15% penalty

[latent cosmos]

ahh, okay thanks man

[onyx matrix]

… shit.

[latent cosmos]

try to learn the map and spawn locations,, it felt impossible for me too man

also use ai to restrain anyone rather than doing it urself

[onyx matrix]

Well when i see a civilian i just make my teammates restrain them and then go on with my day.

[latent cosmos]

yeah, same thing goes with suspects

[onyx matrix]

i’m fucking john wick.

I kill the suspects.

[copper silo]

you are doing what to john wick

[onyx matrix]

.. different meaning.

,.. fuck.

The hell was that.

[latent cosmos]

that works too, it stresses ai out when u kill their buddies though

also u have 11 minutes to defuse bombs, which is just fine for 2 bombs

[onyx matrix]

Well yk why i kill em? I got a points mod, instead of giving me 5+ it gives 35+

[gray heath]

how quickly do you get killed without armor? I only ever really use heavy armor with ceramic plating so I want to know if no armor is viable at all

[latent cosmos]

ahh okay nonvanilla icic

[jolly verge]

3 torso shot and you done

[gray heath]

okay... what about light armor? is it that much worse than heavy armor or can is it decent enough to where running it isn't too detrimental

[jolly verge]

The only difference is side plates

so if you get flanked a lot you need heavy

[copper silo]

get shield for back + put armor only on front

🤔

[frail pier]

Shields good on relapse... besides that I'd rather stick with breach.

[obsidian skiff]

what does the emergency system do on the yacht?

[winter pendant]

it go wew wew wew wew

https://tenor.com/view/wee-woo-spongebob-patrick-gif-25732603

[gentle void]

Brian

Tonight’s the night

[obsidian skiff]

oh lol

[amber dock]

Hehe embed fail. Everyone laugh at this user

[subtle shoal]

You can’t embed either brug

[amber dock]

That’s crazy

[glacial ridge]

Just be good at clearing room, use your wedges and you’ll never be flanked haha

[humble coral]

w

just s ranked triad

[wild iron]

does incapacitated count as non lethal lethal or its own category

[humble coral]

no they gotta be alive

[glacial ridge]

No because it isn’t full points

[blazing monolith]

is there a way to get my ironman mode save back

gerard scott blew himself and my entire team on the door

[oblique loom]

can my fucking team stop killing me when i shoot innocent people

[shy tulip]

No, that's the point of ironman

[oblique loom]

im playing quick play

how do i play without bots

[shy tulip]

I wasn't referring to you, and the answer is still no

[oblique loom]

use the reply feature then

[stone stump]

reply is either abused or not used at all

[oblique loom]

abused how

[stone stump]

just like you did, replying to a message right above you

[oblique loom]

i find it to be a useful feature in crowded chats

[stone stump]

but maybe i should say overused

[zinc path]

is there some way to make the AI teammates throw flashbangs when they arent breaching? whenever i tell them to deploy launcher or flash they just dont do it

on hide and seek theres so much open area so the AI's flashbangs n shit are just wasted

[latent cosmos]

play w friends and dont invite anyone

[oblique loom]

🙏

[velvet steeple]

What voice is king?

I want his mocking “shut the hell up” line back

was no joke my fav part of the game for sure

other than using the unreleased m14 which is now here

[river tide]

play multiplayer by yourself

[serene mauve]

wow the elephant is insane

[humble coral]

hey also how tf am i supposed to get due process
i swear i've done it at least 10 times

[serene mauve]

i was wandering around the entire time looking for the shooters and the bombs ended up killing two of my best team members

i checked the entire school like three times and i couldn't find the last shooter

[humble coral]

simply alt f4

[serene mauve]

doesn't leaving the match impact your team's mental health

[humble coral]

not if you alt f4

[serene mauve]

good to know, thanks for the tip

are the civilian executions in the college based off a timer or just if they notice you
like if i go all sneaky with supressors will that delay the shootings

[celest lichen]

Nope

The idea is to get in and stop the shooting as quickly as you can

[serene mauve]

makes sense

[celest lichen]

Keep in mind they were already shooting before you got there, and just being sneaky wouldn’t stop the shooters from carrying out their goal

[serene mauve]

though the school is so large its hard to find all the shooters before they start killing them

[celest lichen]

It’s a tough mission for sure

[serene mauve]

yeah i assumed that if they knew they're boned they'd just finish the job instead of trying to hold out against the cops

[jolly pasture]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BLCtuuqD3v4 no way the army is drafting the streamer dude

[celest lichen]

The way I did it is by only going for the shooters and not taking the time to arrest civilians until taking out all of the suspects

Suspects, bombs, civvies

[celest lichen]

Fair enough

[serene mauve]

what armor did you use

[celest lichen]

Light armor, ceramic plates

I pretty much never use anything else

[serene mauve]

i usually go heavy ceramic but light kevlar still feels slow

[celest lichen]

I would consider using heavy if it actually gave shoulder/crotch protection

Like the model shows

[serene mauve]

are pp shots really that common for it to be a deal breaker

[celest lichen]

No but shoulders are

[random obsidian]

Judge don’t even have a damage model for his balls why does it matter🤣

[celest lichen]

Still fuller coverage 🤷‍♂️

[random obsidian]

Fair point

[celest lichen]

I don’t have use for side plates if im facing the suspects

And I’d like shoulder coverage if I’m taking a movement penalty, it feels like I’m hit in arms/shoulders pretty frequently

So I’d rather just stick to light armor, get more slots and be slightly faster 🤷‍♂️

[serene mauve]

i just opened a door and got jumpscared by a kid and accidentally magdumped her 😭

i could never be a cop irl

[stark horizon]

shouldnt there be surrendering voicelines? I just watched a youtube short where the guy surrendering is screaming "I'd rather die"

[celest lichen]

Huh there are surrender voice lines

[prime wing]

“Ok dont shoot”

“Im complying”

To cite a few

[celest lichen]

“I GIVE UP!”

[stable kernel]

"don't shoot" while the suspect starts blasting

every time

[prime wing]

Some suspects will bad mouth you just because

[tired cloud]

Is the ability to cancel a restrain in the game?

[celest lichen]

Just like real life

Just realism bro

[celest lichen]

I think it was added in this last update yeah

[shy tulip]

Yes, but only at the start of the animation

[finite seal]

Entry team to @hollow falcon We got one fatality, civilian.

[stable kernel]

Not the toc bot

[finite seal]

I love prank calling the toc bot

[stable kernel]

New pfp dropped

[tired cloud]

how do i cancel it?

[shy tulip]

Just walk away when you start

[tired cloud]

ty

[finite seal]

Entry team to @hollow falcon . . . OFFICER DOWN REQUESTING IMMEDIATE TEMS!!!

[smoky mason]

Hello, is there any hints that the dev will bring back some of the old maps? Pre 1.0 launch, i miss old port and cherry farm. they were good maps.

[finite seal]

seeing as how 213 park homes got their raid and operation map merged i dont think we'll get the old maps back

[smoky mason]

dang

[shy tulip]

I don't think they've talked about it, maybe on Reddit. They did say however if anything old were to return it would be free of charge. Those maps were however removed for various reasons, it's probably easier for them to completely remake them, like they ended up doing.

[finite seal]

l'reddit

[celest lichen]

There are remakes of the early maps on Nexus right now

[shy tulip]

Yep

[smoky mason]

legit just saw that lol

[celest lichen]

I have no idea what those maps are like because I didn’t have a PC at the time and couldn’t play the game in 2020 😔

[stark horizon]

yes but they arent played on the new animations

[glacial ridge]

im late but there is like a 2 minute window before the shooting starts

[elfin shell]

I didnt know there s oficer Dumitriu

which is a romanian name lmao, this is an interesting detail

[winter pendant]

I have a sneaking suspicion that the free content update will be old maps. Why else would they have that mapping contest?

[serene musk]

i gotta ask before i look like a idiot in bug reports but is it a bug to not be able to switch, shoot or do anything other than move with the beanbag shotgun randomly?

[shy tulip]

Map contest mods cannot be added to the base game (same with the last map contest)

[winter pendant]

Right but it's inspiration. They said rework old or current maps. What would you change? Etc

Just a hunch

[shy tulip]

I dunno, we'll see, Void hasn't hinted anything so there's nothing to go off

Would be nice

[glacial ridge]

It didnt like my response to the map changes

But the maps were very different for sure

The farm specifically I feel was so much harder to complete pre 1.0 but I don't know if it'll be easier now with the AI changes or not

[humble coral]

toc to uh entry team

anyone know how to do due process

shit aint working for me

[glacial folio]

Sometimes when you mirror a door you can see suspects literally on the other side super close to it

C2 the door and watch them go

[humble coral]

so the crazy thing is that it don't do

[jolly pasture]

I still havent found a game with more realistic gun sounds than Ready or Not lol

[glacial folio]

Are they awake or unrestrained and you’re not just putting them by the door

[finite seal]

due process is like

an honor the police officer must uphold when arresting

'the officer must have due process while arresting/detaining the suspect'

'if the suspect has needs like the need of medicine or water the officer must make due process to make that need'

[jolly pasture]

isnt due process a court thing?

[finite seal]

idfk lmao

[jolly pasture]

afaik due process means the government has to follow their own rules and be fair when someone is prosecuted

[glacial folio]

Serve a defendant with a copy of the complaint and a summons signed by the clerk within 90 days

[glacial folio]

That too

Which makes the name of the achievement even funnier

[true ice]

I think it just means any legal proceedings

Probably a take on “expedite due process”

[glacial folio]

It’s more so a concept and belief of fairness and equal opportunity to prosecute and defend in civil and criminal proceedings

Can’t have a judgement against you if you never knew about the lawsuit to begin with

[little hatch]

how to cancel arrest animation?

[serene mauve]

Did the arrest animation say something offensive why are we cancelling it

[little hatch]

it spread anti-vax misinformation on twitter

[humble coral]

I've tried them being conscious and by the door and being cuffed right next to the door

still don't work

[jolly tiger]

bro why is hospital map such a maze. Also why tf are some entraces to different floors closed off on some stairways but open on others

just makes shit complicated for no reason

like id get it if u arent supposed to go on that floor. but when its a floor that needs clearing why block it off

[lunar fiber]

I mean, it’s an active shooter situation in a hospital, people could very easily have barricade doors and the like to make it harder for the shooters to reach them and potentially get away or make it easier for the shooter to find another target. That’s my reasoning at the very least.

[serene mauve]

my whole team is on the verge of mental breakdown but finally i beat elephant and with rank A....

im not gonna go for S rank on elephant because these guys dont deserve the nonlethal

[tacit gull]

It's a concept that every criminal has the right to a court hearing, regardless of how severe or obvious a crime they commited or didn't is

The joke is that regardless of how hostile the suspect was or wasn't you still blasted their face in with a door, thus skipping their due process required to establish that they are, in fact, a suspect

I might've gotten something wrong but i'm not sure, it's 3 am 🥴

[fleet talon]

Hey was it you I was talking about with the score criteria? And was asking how death vs incap affects it?

[shy tulip]

I vaguely remember having a convo like that

[fleet talon]

I get it has no difference in terms of score for the most part. But do officers receive less stress when they are simply incap instead of dead? @shy tulip

[shy tulip]

I do not know that specifically

[stable kernel]

Incap is the same as kill, outside of HVT arrest objectives

[shy tulip]

Stress wise?

[fleet talon]

So no difference on officers mental health? Might aswell just kill all non VIPs to avoid them waking up?

[stable kernel]

Susects cannot fake being incap

[fleet talon]

Can't they wake back up tho? Swear I've seen a few stand up

[humble coral]

still trying to do due process

[stable kernel]

Playing dead shows as dead, not incap

[fleet talon]

Right not playing dead, but I swear I've shot someone on rust yesterday, he fell over, and after maybe 5 seconds stood back up unarmed

But either way no impact?

[humble coral]

are you supposed to finish the mission for due process or does it automatically give it to you?

wtf now it just gave me it after so many times of blasting dudes with c2

beat cop time

[lost inlet]

Rare chance that they’ve faked death upon getting shot. Can be easily countered by just cuffing when they’re down

[finite seal]

what music y'all bustin out for ready or not

[lost inlet]

None, i turned it off completely

[finite seal]

can you s-rank 4u gas station without hud?

[lost inlet]

Yes

[sharp folio]

is there anyway to take my comms off

[glacial folio]

Right on the head actually

[fleet talon]

Ik abt that, I hit him with 7.62x51mm and he was having an arterial bleed, fell over squirming everywhere, stood up, gave up, I started to arrest him fell over again (ig from blood loss) then I cuffed em

[glacial folio]

Oh yeah, I play with controller, how do I make my game chat open instead of PTT

[fleet talon]

But either way I'm just curious if using lower calibers to take people alive it worth it, or just ending em. From testing right now it seems to make a difference on officer moral, but that could be coincidence

[coral bane]

what is twisted nerves soft objectives?

[regal ravine]

lmao they still dont tell you the soft objectives?

[glacial ridge]

No, they are supposed to be secret ones

[glacial ridge]

The minor in the bed, and cash on the table in one of the rooms

[void trellis]

Well now my damn laser turned into a flashlight

[void trellis]

Check your ATAK

[umbral oar]

because they're soft

[stone bay]

why is my friendly ai so stupid?

They are literally dying before they even shoot back one round

also they will stop everything to go arrest a suspect which again is getting them killed

[sharp folio]

is there any easier way of getting POIs to surrender faster? like micheal or sahid

[shy tulip]

Sahid is very slippery intentional, but nothing a taser or two can't fix

[glacial ridge]

i just saw him before he saw me and tossed him a flashbang

i noticed more times than not he always spawns on the 2nd floor of the boat

[wide scaffold]

Yo, my blue part of team aren't following my commands, what do i do

[lost inlet]

Tell them to fall in

[void trellis]

Get a better ai mod; void interactive for some reason has given us AI without common sense on how to clear corners n stuff.

[wide scaffold]

They don't have sense, not even common

[void trellis]

So yeah; just get a swat AI mod

[wide scaffold]

Mfs in void interactive making the worst ai ever

And worst optimization too

[void trellis]

Didn’t they say they had real swat operators help them or smth

[wide scaffold]

The game itself deserves goty but the tech. part of it...

[void trellis]

The game is fire as hell but there’s things that need to be fixed

[wide scaffold]

Sometimes AI can't clear the room because they wait

[void trellis]

Pathfinding issues

[lost inlet]

Void wanted to add a bit of their flavors of gamey onto it

[wide scaffold]

They wait literally next to door, looking into every corner

[void trellis]

Pathfinding issues

[wide scaffold]

I spent hours just to not have like 30-40 fps on my 4060, now i have stable 70-100

[void trellis]

I can verify this claim

[wide scaffold]

I remember buying ron 1 year ago, i returned cuz i had 10-15 fps, i had 1060

[wide scaffold]

Everyone without 4090 threadripper, and everyone who didn't refund this game can verify ig

[void trellis]

Yeah

[wide scaffold]

Void interactive are actually smart

You spend 2 hours on fixing your small fps, then you can't refund if you didn't like the game

[void trellis]

They’ve actually improved on something’s I guess

[wide scaffold]

More like vought interactive from the boys

Also AI can't use some things like shocker, which is really sad

So you have to download mods, but when you want to download mods you have to fuck with it for about 30-40 minutes

[formal sphinx]

lmao I hate when they clog doorways when I search a small room like a bathroom or something

[modest bear]

How tf do you beat Neon Tomb it's impossible to do without killing every suspect

the AI either kills every suspect or stands by while suspects get superior angles and executes them

also the map is too big, and has too many suspects

also do red dots lie? I keep shooting suspects while the red dot is on them and they don't get hit

why did they remove the multiple entrances???

[umbral oar]

Huh

[urban walrus]

Club only have 1 entry point since it's blockout stage

[modest bear]

you used to be able to go through the velvet ropes at the beginning and go throug hthe back

[upbeat shore]

Huh

[lost inlet]

Rope? What rope?

[modest bear]

the rope at the beginning

[upbeat shore]

I think he's confusing it with the club mod map

[lost inlet]

Ahh that would make sense

[modest bear]

let me link a pic in #🎨ron-screenshots-and-art

[upbeat shore]

Club hasn't changed since release

[shy tulip]

Night club has never had more than one entrance

RoN has also never had an option to climb ladders or ropes

actually the ladder part is a lie but that was the closed build

[modest bear]

velvet ropes are used to make the queue you spawn next to

[lost inlet]

Like literally going through the rope like you’re lining up to enter the place?

[modest bear]

yes

[upbeat shore]

If that was ever a thing, i hear about it for the first time

[lost inlet]

^

[modest bear]

I remember that from when i did a mission on neon tomb with the discord group I used to run with

it was a while ago though

[shy tulip]

It could have been, but if it was changed it would've been to move those to the side. Besides that that spawn has always been like that

[modest bear]

I swear there was an alternate entrance... or maybe I'm just confusing that with the split path once you get inside

[upbeat shore]

@gaunt gale do you know?

[lost inlet]

That could be it.

[modest bear]

because I remember there being like 15 of us, and we split into two groups and went two different ways

[upbeat shore]

Iirc, the ropes were always blocked by bodies

[shy tulip]

The split path is there yes

[gaunt gale]

Nyet

There was always only one

There WAS a popular modded club map that had two entrances

[modest bear]

didn't some of the bodies also have crying voice lines?

[upbeat shore]

Comrade enters the room and throws in "nyet"

[lost inlet]

Yes.

[gaunt gale]

My name IS Mikhail Kaminsky

[lost inlet]

[upbeat shore]

That's your spy name

KGB Community Manager unveiled

[modest bear]

remember when The Spider was meant to be set in a government agency?

and it was a hostage-only map?

[lost inlet]

Yeah, it was called agency

Full of terrorists from the club map

[modest bear]

I also remember the test-only fast food map that had every single game mode

that was fun to speedrun

[lost inlet]

Literally my favorite map

It was so fun back then

[modest bear]

I loved it so much

[upbeat shore]

So much potential

[modest bear]

(also RIP the 4U Garage, always in our hearts)

[shy tulip]

That garage was clearly transferred to car dealer

fast food was pretty much just the fuck around map that the only time I saw it in COOP was someone using max suspects (without telling me)

[modest bear]

lol

[scarlet flax]

Are you guys talking about Beta maps from early access or something?

[modest bear]

yep