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[terse umbra]

Man itd be real nice if the AI deployed the CS gas when I command them to do so lol……

[tiny quail]

my usual strat for streamer room is to just c2 and stinger it, while my teammate is doing that, i can also throw another one to michael's room since there is an open vent connecting his mother's apartment to his'

[shadow ether]

how is it an "unauthorized use of force" if the mf is on his way to carry out an order to execute all hostages

To me it sounds like the most authorized use of force in the book

The dude even stayed alive

[ionic fiber]

can't prove it
he could just be walking away

if a suspect hasn't pointed their gun at anyone, you are not clear to fire

this was a thing in swat 4
I exploited this

[shadow ether]

So we just wait until a hostage gets shot before I am allowed to tazer a dude carrying a gun?

[ionic fiber]

no, if he readies his gun
you magdump

that's how we never got a penalty

[shadow ether]

I am not waiting for them to do something stupid

[ionic fiber]

the exploit is older than me

by a couple of months

[shadow ether]

Though to be entirely fair, suspect hesitation is so long now that I had several cases where I could just stroll up to the suspect and punch them 15 times before they finally decide to surrender.

[ionic fiber]

swat 4 was released in april

[ionic fiber]

you can do that, I never got a penalty because of that

[shadow ether]

That is what I am doing now

Why taser them if you can beat them the fuck up

[ionic fiber]

I think that's what I did when people were resisting in swat 4 too

[twilit geyser]

yo, how do I remove fog ingame? Isn't that possible with some command?

[ionic fiber]

yeah I remember the food wall, where I beaten a guy

[loud crescent]

you can use LTLs on anyone that isn't actively surrendering/civilian
but for lethal force they have to be 'alerted' (which usually means 'aiming a gun')

[stuck thunder]

i do got one primary question between FISA and the LSPD looks like they have a rocky relationship in terms of working together, i had just completed the last mission "Hide and Seek" and theres a certain connex with questionable cargo upon Calling it in FISA ordered to shut it, whats the reasoning behind it?

[ionic fiber]

yep

I wish there was some unique suspect interactions instead of the same thing I saw when I was playing unmodded swat 4

[shadow ether]

The local PD is ||poking their nose in FISA unofficial revenue sources|| interfering with an ongoing sensitive investigation

[stuck thunder]

is it a bad thing i wanted to see a cutscene of Judge talking with a FISA agent after the op? seems like to me Judge has a history workin with the Feds

[ionic fiber]

nah, it gives him personality

[shadow ether]

The most important thing in any investigation is not to discover that it's been your business all along

[stuck thunder]

i have a feeling at some point the squads gonna have to mobilize against a few FISA areas and uproot it, but it seems to be a bit optimistic xD

ngl opening that connex struck a nerve and i did finish the op although the rating was more than below standard

[ionic fiber]

I feel like I should be able to sprint and tackle a suspect running

just slam some guy to the wall and restrain him

[shadow ether]

I mean, you can argue that Judge did uproot some FISA operations on his way to that conversation

[stuck thunder]

good way to lose your job in the progress of peace and justice

[shadow ether]

||I think that's how we lost our old TOC||

[stuck thunder]

miss that guy

[shadow ether]

He was a real one

[stuck thunder]

welp onto play the DLCs anything i should know before hand?"

[shadow ether]

1: rush the yacht
2: oil rig is a fkn maze, book it to indoors area immediately
3: the island has a metric shit ton of gunners

[stuck thunder]

so very tight corners

[ionic fiber]

this
god I was trying to be methodical and minimizing any lethal shot
then

civilian killed

[shadow ether]

No, not corners, it's the post office tier of not having cover

[stuck thunder]

oh fuck

well im gonna be doin it in order Home Invasion then Dead Waters

[prime tundra]

Hi guys, does anyone know how to get The world achivment? Just now i finished main compain on iron mod and without any loss, but have only ingame watch(

[bitter remnant]

the new yacht level was much more stressful than I thought

[shadow ether]

Are you playing with mods?

[prime tundra]

No. clear game

[shadow ether]

Huh. That's odd, it should have given you the cheevo if you got the watch.

[prime tundra]

I do not know what to do( it was really difficult for me to complete this((

[ionic fiber]

yeah, bumrush them

[modern vapor]

For the new achievment on Leviathan where you have to kill two suspects at 30 m range with headshot. Do you get it rewarded instantly or on mission completion?

[bitter remnant]

oh yeah, got the squad with the "full speed" gear and the new SCAR-H

[shadow ether]

Hey, at least you got the watch to show for it!
Sucks that cheevos are broken, though.

[bitter remnant]

the achievements have been working for me thus far

[prime tundra]

At least now friends will laught that i finished it but without achivments 🤣 hope that this will be fixed)

[stuck thunder]

i need more experience to get that watch xD

[bitter remnant]

maybe its that specific one?

[bitter remnant]

try rebooting the game, maybe it'll decide to give it to you on reboot

[stone bay]

are you supposed to be able to shoot through walls? ive been trying to beat hide and seek and its genuinely an unbearable unfun experience. i have been shot through walls, doors, and across the map. any gun in 556 does nothing. skill issue or what?

[stuck thunder]

i get hit and lose men too often, not used to working with only AI and i dont got that breacher mindset xD

[bitter remnant]

if the gun is heavy enough calibre it can go through select walls

[stuck thunder]

are you using AP?

[stone bay]

Yes

[stuck thunder]

if you use AP you can go through cover, it takes a few shots though

[stone bay]

I am being shot by suspects with smgs through doors while they are on full auto and moving

[prime tundra]

Yeah. all achivments work so far so good, but the World and The hermit no. I hope that it is not because i try to do this two in one campain

[bitter remnant]

oh yeah doors are piss easy to pen

[stuck thunder]

if you want i can hop in with you and help you to get through it

[stone bay]

Storage container doors *

[bitter remnant]

try rebooting the game

[smoky badge]

Is there a mod that unlocks all the missions, I have completed all of them, but can not play the DLC on Commander Mode as I installed a mod that corrupted my game, and had to launch clean and it deleted all my progress.

[prime tundra]

Also done, will try also tommorow i think...

[stuck thunder]

rip

[bitter remnant]

sounds to me like a great excuse to replay this 10/10 game

[stone bay]

and no matter what i do my gun cannot actually shoot back through this

[smoky badge]

I just kinda want to be able to play the DLC maps with the same team and loadout I have had.

[stone bay]

am i gonna have to bring like fully heavy armor with 8 million mags and a huge gun

[stuck thunder]

i been usin AKs and the M14 been goin through em like butter

[stuck thunder]

my advice is use the AI to be your push then flank

[shadow ether]

What's the easiest mission to S rank quickly?

[prime tundra]

For me it works with AP 7.65 caliber, it shoots three walls
through

[stuck thunder]

the anime dude xD

[gilded vault]

do quick play

[smoky badge]

Thats my problem I want the same loadout and team I normally use

[stuck thunder]

23 megabytes a second

you can clear it in 5 min or less

[stone bay]

also is it a known issue that nobody surrenders anymore after the update

[bitter remnant]

the gas station is probably the easiest level

[gilded vault]

Then you can just set it to the same thing ; it doesn't take long

[shadow ether]

Seems so, yeah

[stone bay]

https://medal.tv/games/ready-or-not/clips/jhJoPWcIca0eQhJNO?invite=cr-MSxnOWMsNDE5MDg2OTYs this isnt game clips but like its really annoying

[smoky badge]

alr and ill prob end up replaying the game anyway

[ionic fiber]

the full auto house

[shadow ether]

They do surrender but it takes a lot of forceful convincing

[bitter remnant]

bro isnt yelling "HANDS UP NOW, DROP TO YOUR KNEES"
"GET DOWN ON YOUR KNEES, SLOWLY!"

[ionic fiber]

taser and a cs

[gilded vault]

Data Center mission. Either Data Center or 23MB/S. Lethal Obsession is quick too but it's tedious and you need to be careful. If you're good enough, Elephant can be really fast too

[stone bay]

prior to that clip i had yelled it >50 times

[ionic fiber]

you can do it solo

[bitter remnant]

normally i get the squad to rock up with G3A3s and mk 17s and it works perfectly

maybe with a bullet to the foot every now and then but yknow they're the ones not complying!

[prime tundra]

Yeah, it is true. It is even scarier when i am trying to complete iron mode and hostage with the bomb do not want to surrender 🤣

[bitter remnant]

neon tomb was the most pain in the ass one to S rank because of that MF with the bomb vest

[gilded vault]

I NEVER wanna do Rust Belt on S Rank ever again that was so mf painful

[stone bay]

m14 is prob the best gun in the game

[cobalt ore]

Anyone else having issues with finding the last civilian on Leviathan? 3rd run that went well but I can't complete due to a missing civ somewhere. In the bunk room with the blockaded stairs, I've heard someone yell "we're trapped up here" every run but haven't found a way up.

[bitter remnant]

thats probably the most subjective topic in this game, which gun is the best

personally I would say the G3A3 or the MK17 but thats because I love fat high calibre rounds

[gilded vault]

You could argue every 7.62 Weapon is the best weapon in the game

Depends off of what you view as best though. Some prefer lethality and some prefer being pacifists

[bitter remnant]

suspects fall over if the things are even pointed at them lmfao

[gilded vault]

New MP5 is nice though, I wish more weapons were like it. It sounds reaaally nice but it doesn't pack that big of a punch

The SMGs and their damage balancing is kind of a joke in this game. Or atleast the reactions that the suspects give to being shot by SMGs

[bitter remnant]

u mean the MP5SD?

[gilded vault]

Yessir

[bitter remnant]

if i was going for a pacifist run that'd probably be my choice of weapon just cause integrally supressed guns are gorgeous

[gilded vault]

It's gorgeous and it sounds amazing

It has a pop to it that literally no other gun has to my knowledge

[prime tundra]

For me MK17 has too high recoil. For me it is GA51 i completed with this ironman. Starts with ARWC and continue with new one

[bitter remnant]

Oh I never use auto, the MK17 hits like a truck that you generally only need one bullet before anyone folds

[gilded vault]

You could shoot them in the foot with the MK17 and they'll still die lmao

[prime tundra]

I mean, i also shoot without full auto but even thought for me it is too high recoil)

[bitter remnant]

My only wish is that they add some kind of camo config to guns like they do to the balistic mask & helmet

cause i want the MK17 in jet black

[gilded vault]

Exactly what I would suggest

I don't want any Call of Duty shit but I would ABSOLUTELY LOVE if they added camouflage, tan & black variants for all of the weapons

[bitter remnant]

holy moly the GA51 is just the G3A3 but short

[bitter remnant]

exactly my point, tan and black and maybe like a multicam of some kind so everyone can use whatever gun they want and it'd fit the style

[prime tundra]

Nope. I completed it quite easily, maybe you do not report someone?

[bitter remnant]

now we just need a full size FN FAL in the game

[zenith stone]

there is a barret 50 cal mod

[bitter remnant]

.50 cal? bleugh

this is a swat shooter not cod where you can man handle the 50 and rapid fire it

[zenith stone]

see thats where ur wrong

this is a horror game disguised into a shooter

[bitter remnant]

i fail to see the difference between a swat shooter and a horror game

cause if you ask me they both mean the same fucking thing

[prime tundra]

What for? U want to penetrate all map throught?

[zenith stone]

yessir

i dont have it yet since im getting a new pc but yeah

[stone bay]

yea m14 best gun in the game fs

[bitter remnant]

kills a suspect
TOC to entry team, WATCH YOUR FIRE!
Civvie in the other room with a .50 BMG hole in their head:

[zenith stone]

😂

[prime tundra]

xD

[zenith stone]

i forgot which gun it was but there is an AR that almost always kills with 1 shot thats usually my go to for every mission that has a criminal in ut

[prime tundra]

It is better to add some staff related to non letal, some kind of power diplomacy) sso u do not need to beg suspects to surrender 🤣

[bitter remnant]

there is multiple now
the MK 17
G3A3
GA51
M14

i mean fuck its really all of the ARs with just a wee little boolet to the noggin

[zenith stone]

it was the SA 58 always used it

[stone bay]

the m14 is 1 shot

[zenith stone]

this is better tho faster more attachments and allat

[opal basin]

Can we get a new head gore model? It sucks because it literally changes the skin color and hair no matter who it is, just a stump would be great

[cobalt ore]

Finally got it, I think it was one of the already deceased civilians that wasn't getting reported.

[limpid summit]

Damn The Hermit achievement is borked?
Completed the Iron Man mode without losing a single officer and didnt get it

[hidden rapids]

the fal fell off so quickly after dw

[prime tundra]

YES! i also, but for me it is The Hermit + The World)

[limpid summit]

ahh well thats even worse

at least I got The World

[paper topaz]

Ive had trhose not one shot, Mk 17 + COM shot + body armor KO'd a guy who proceeded to stand up and blast me ten seconds later

[hidden rapids]

rip or not is back up yey

38 suspects on thank you comr again is fun

only a bit chalenging

around 80 bullets needed

if 48 off those are buckshot and the rest 9mil

and any hit in the head is a one shot too you even with balistic mask

because off modt enemies having bigger bullets or weapons

[ashen sandal]

Does anyone know the goofy lines for all the voices? IE Monaghan says "You get to wear handcuffs, that's pretty cool!" or King used to say "Waaah, I didn't do it- Shut the fuck up"

[hidden rapids]

the funniest voice line in the game is "tok..."

[paper topaz]

when the character just says "toc" thats a bug right

[hidden rapids]

no i mean the voiceline for the "kill me" command

one off the

the benelli id sccyualy so good

it does get many civs killed but if you have a pistol on you you can kind off midigate that

[sinful sapphire]

why they change TOC voice actor?

[hidden rapids]

idk

[restive ferry]

New one better

[sinful sapphire]

i miss old one :(

[hidden rapids]

the voicelines are better not the voice

[shy tulip]

You can swap back to old toc in the game files

[atomic star]

Man, I hope we get an update improving SWAT AI soon. They should at least be able to properly seek cover and reorient to threats

[hidden rapids]

i used 2 m11 mags and 8x8 buckshot in an m4 before dying with only one m11 mag left

god damn

[hidden rapids]

but arent there new voice lines in this update

[shy tulip]

Yeah probably, but otherwise you can replace everything else

[covert aurora]

I like the new toc personally.

[shy tulip]

Yeah the new guy has sass to him

[hidden rapids]

the old toc sounded a bit goofy

in a good way

[covert aurora]

True

Speaking of new toc....

@gaunt gale i have a question for you, any idea who the new toc VA is?

[amber dock]

Zack bower

[covert aurora]

😮

[amber dock]

Zack bower with voice changer

[covert aurora]

🤔

[hidden rapids]

What is the fastest way too clear a room with shotgun

[obsidian hornet]

Is anyone else struggling with friendly fire when double-nading rooms? I swear I throw a flashbang perfectly around a corner and it still tags my teammates.

They're also wearing anti-flash goggles so I don't understand why points are being deducted - do flashbangs deal like 1 damage or something?

This is really frustrating as I am definitely throwing the stingers and flashes far enough away (and beyond enough barriers)

[pine ore]

crazy how much the game has changed

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wF7AYCGs3R4

[hidden rapids]

anti flash only works from farther

[obsidian hornet]

Rip

[hidden rapids]

try too keep it out off theyre line off fire and you should be fine

keyword should

[shy tulip]

If this was Rick Roll I would've wiped you out

[obsidian hornet]

It's just annoying because it's the main reason why I lose S-rank. Teammate throws stinger, I throw flash, somehow they are affected by it even when I'm not...

[pine ore]

no doubt about it

[hidden rapids]

i dont have rhe issue because getting an S is the least off my worries when there are 50 enemies on the map with better guns traps and hostage placement

🙏

s rank means only non-lethal non lethal means death

[terse umbra]

These AI……… I literally told them to stay out of the room so I could detain a suspect — they enter anyway and a bad guy lights them up from around the corner then proceeds to light me up

Thanks VOID 🙂

Also I mean the enemies take pepperballs to the face and don’t even flinch lmaooooo

[worldly ridge]

SWAT AI likes to ignore orders

[terse umbra]

I just shot this dude with 6 pepperballs to the face and he didn’t move at all

[worldly ridge]

6 pepperballs is weaksauce for the new suspects

[terse umbra]

Lmao apparently so

I’m just trying to S rank but nvm I guess

[worldly ridge]

I had them STAND IN GAS, IGNORE 2 TASER SHOTS AND STILL NOT SURRENDER

[terse umbra]

Lmao Jesus

[worldly ridge]

6 Pepperballs is nothing compared to that

I had a clip uploaded where the streamer dude was standing in gas, had 4 SWAT dudes (+ me sometimes) yelling and him, and me constatly melee bashing him for 25 seconds before he surrendered

[hidden rapids]

i wish swat ai learned how too deal with multiple suspects

they just become blind

[inland thistle]

😅 I feel you. The new surrendering mechanic is stupid

[bitter mason]

When it activates really needs to be refined

Shouldn't happen if they have been stunned in some way

[red hull]

I can't find the last civi

I went through the entire twist nerve map

[shy tulip]

What about under the beds and in the closets

[red hull]

I checked yh

3 times doing another loop round rn

Yh idk where he is

[karmic niche]

Outside maybe?

[red hull]

Just checked rn

[karmic niche]

Damnnn

[red hull]

Yh I think it's bugged

Even the underground tunnels nothing there

I give up

[terse jolt]

Has anyone had a bug where the civilians on the oil rig dissappear?

I swear one of them tried to swim for land or something

[karmic niche]

I've had guns dissappear on oil rig

[dark wharf]

does anyone know why we didnt get laser/ light combos this update

[red hull]

Maybe didn't fit the theme of the update idk

[dark wharf]

ya but thwey said they were adding it

[shy tulip]

It was not ready in time

[dark wharf]

will they be adding it in a patch or we gonna have to rely on modders still

[shy tulip]

In the future, when that is, who knows

Seems their focus is patch #1 currently

[golden spear]

heya! I received an unauthorized use of force while returning fire at a suspect, Is there something Im misunderstanding about the penalty or was it just incorrect?

(if more information is needed please ask me questions! i dont know what details are relevant)

[shy tulip]

It's not possible to say 100% without a video tbh

[covert aurora]

Was there multiple suspects? Or a hostage?

[golden spear]

I did find later that there was a civilian in the hallway behind him through an open door

[covert aurora]

Bullet may have hit them as well as suspect

Or a stray hit the civi

[golden spear]

got it

[covert aurora]

Stay frosty on things beyond the person in front of you

[golden spear]

noted ^^

I had no idea the civilian was there ^^'

but hey! first mission with one deduction isnt too bad

thanks for the help ^^

[covert aurora]

Your welcome! Happy to help!

[obsidian hornet]

Question to people who use the Voiceattack mod: Why do you use Voice Attack when the main character already has a fully voiced suite of commands? Isn't it unimmersive to hear yourself speak twice? First you speak the command IRL, then Judge does it in-game. What's the point exactly?

[obsidian hornet]

Right, that was me at first too. But now I'm going for all S because I like the evidence

[shy tulip]

I wouldn't say immersion is the #1 thing, it's more about the fun/flexibility of using your voice instead of middle mousing around menus

[obsidian hornet]

That makes sense.

[shy tulip]

There are certainly times I've wanted the game to understand me shouting at my monitor "Get the fuck on the ground" without pressing F

[past hinge]

i have white phosphor but when i use the nods it has green phosphor on anyone know why?

[shy tulip]

read #❗known-issues-and-fixes

[golden spear]

Whats the correctional room in the basement for? the signs seem to imply Im allowed to shoot the guy but that just feels wrong in this game

[shy tulip]

He's just a guy to test stuff on and see what it does

for most people yes that means killing him

[golden spear]

ok

ope i do get yelled at for it

[obsidian hornet]

Is there any reason not to just tell civilians to Move To Exit? Tbh I feel like that shouldn't even be a feature in the game because not only does it make it simple to tell who's a suspect and who isn't, it also means you don't have to risk yourself to restrain certain characters when you can just tell them to gtfo.

[shy tulip]

Besides it being potentially buggy, yes. On some maps they run into dangerous areas and suspects can force them to surrender, so they're worse off.

They'll try to take the shortest route or somethin and sometimes that might not be a safe area

[wraith arrow]

the bots can kill civs?

[shy tulip]

Well, outside of active shooter, not intentionally

[wraith arrow]

I just saw a bot destroy a civilian's stomach at less than 2 meters with its shotgun

[shy tulip]

Shit happens

[toxic stirrup]

anybody else think that the LV119 sits too low on the torso?

[obsidian hornet]

Anyone else just love the MK18? I know it's the starter gun and all but personally I love it. Feels great to fire, good recoil, 5.56 is a decently powerful cartridge, etc.
I think most of all what I enjoy about it is the visual design
There are a LOT of guns in this game with hollowed-out stocks and I just really despise those from a visual standpoint
I hate the aesthetics of hollow stocks (unless it's an SMG)
Full stocks are way more visually appealing imo

[wraith arrow]

I just don't like the MK18 because of its gas block, that damn thing takes away some of your visibility when you use the scope

[golden spear]

When loading into a level single player the screensays “practice mode”

What does that mean exactly?

[obsidian hornet]

Because you're not playing singleplayer, you're playing practice mode

Commander mode is the actual campaign mode. Practice mode is something else

[upbeat shore]

Wait, they renamed it to quick play tho

[golden spear]

Ooh oki, didn’t realize the tutorial dumped me into that instead of the campaign! Thanks :3

[stone bay]

we need more vests with POLICE on it bro

ik theres mods but in vanilla i dont wanna look like a pmc

[shy tulip]

You are not cag enough

[crisp aurora]

why am i unable to hear my character give commands to npcs?

[night pasture]

issue with new dlc missions it's freaky...

[rustic bobcat]

bot teammate tkilling for accidents is getting a bit annoying 😕

[craggy moss]

Just wondering if anyone knows if the devs plan on adding variable zoom on the lpvo's. I'd really like to see jt happen, it'd make the optic a lot more versatile.

[opal basin]

If it feels wrong to kill him then there is something wrong with you

Look at his forehead

[manic lark]

What does it mean when I can play the DLC when the ron campaign is finsihed? I finished every mission already, is there a rank i need to get in order to 'complete it'?

[shy tulip]

Try replaying port again for a C+

[manic lark]

okay so anything above C is fine right? because I only have one C on Rust Belt

[shy tulip]

It should be fine

[manic lark]

hate that map so much

[golden spear]

whelp time to start a new campaign because I am too embarased to face that team again

accidently threw a grenade in a small room with a civilian and 3 of my people T-T

[obsidian hornet]

Anyone else feel like melee range is way too short? You have to be close enough to kiss them which just feels wrong. Maybe it's supposed to encourage you to use ranged LTL?

[manic lark]

howd u manage that 😭

[covert aurora]

You hit g randomly

[wraith arrow]

yo, the usia crazy dude have military training?

[golden spear]

Accidentally hit g on my way to n T-T

[woeful gazelle]

Is the dark water dlc gonna be free for supporter edition player

[visual pendant]

yes it is

[obsidian hornet]

The PiP scopes in this game are SO disorienting to use

[woeful gazelle]

So it u buy it before 1.0?

[tardy sequoia]

Yeah supporter edition was only available during EA, It gives you like a cool FISA shield and a upgraded 1301

[covert aurora]

and redesign of the mk18 and a redesign of the g19

and fisa uniform

[magic hearth]

https://youtu.be/15yT9tpqg2A?si=Orr5I0pzy1ghnsGq

It’s no joke!

[tulip sun]

is there literally like. no lobbies besides mf WatchmenWakeUpYT 😭 every time ive queued public it's just HIM, ill open a lobby, boom instantly 4 people join

[stable kernel]

esc, lobby management, block

[covert aurora]

^

[tulip sun]

i... did not know this. thank you :3

[cyan geyser]

does anyone find the npc faces uncanny?

[tulip sun]

absolutely

i don't really know why

[cyan geyser]

you can crash his pc

[tulip sun]

chemlights

[cyan geyser]

That’s the extent of how much I’m gonna say because I’m not too sure I can disclose anymore info without being punished

[cyan geyser]

nah

[tulip sun]

okok

[cyan geyser]

I’ll DM you to talk about some stuff that is UNRELATED to crashing watchmen

[tulip sun]

bet :3 we can play

[cyan geyser]

I can’t play

Attention Officers!

Welcome to our 286th Ready or Not Development briefing, December 25th, 2034.

Today we are developing an update that is solely dedicated to making WatchmenWakeUpYT’s computer explode!

[tiny quail]

i cant even go into a multiplayer lobby because my internet has been shite lately

each day i have to deal with prescott's bullshit

[frigid aspen]

Yall heard the tapes in The Elysian?

[obsidian hornet]

Everyone, tell me your favorite cosmetic mods rn

[restive ferry]

None

[grim forge]

In Commander Mode, how does one "retry" a mission before accepting an outcome? Right now I'm reduced to hitting alt+F4 as soon as something goes wrong, what's the correct, or at least a better way?

[winter pendant]

Quick play lol

It used to be called practice mode

[grim forge]

I can progress and open new gear with that mode? Only reason I'm at commander mode after getting through all the maps in it is because I read somewhere that you need to open certain stuff in commander mode.

[winter pendant]

Uhhhh probably. Can't say for sure

[shy tulip]

Yes, you can unlock equipment in all modes (except for like two achievement items)

[grim forge]

Well, mainly I'm after the shorts that come with A+ Valley of the Dolls, so I can get that in any mode?

Gotta have dem shorts, don't even know why my self 😛

[winter pendant]

I'm pretty sure yes

[grim forge]

Cool. I guess I read somewhere that in order to get something you'd need to hit a specific tier in Commander Mode, but I guess that was about a specific thing, not all the stuff

[raven schooner]

Nother crash rip

[raven schooner]

The ranking?

[void grove]

Im tired of you noobs

[light stag]

Suggestion to make a map where a dictator who fled his country is now hiding in los suenos and is wanted by the international court, so yet again D platoon is sent to his compound to capture him

His house is full of his personal bodyguards and they have special forces type aim (just like all the AI in this game) and his basement is full of kids and ceepee cause RON is realism and realism is dead children

[frigid sand]

there are two hidden achievements what are they?

[copper flint]

Ready or Not

[visual pendant]

I found the FBI HRT uniforms better, and I think it's a little unfair to just make them FISA if you've bought FBI. Even in the description of the supporter edition it says FBI HRT Uniforms, then the mk1 is no longer there for the weapons as shown, just like the tacticak shield is shown with an FBI paint job, it never had this in the game

[restive ferry]

Wait is the mk1 gone?

[light stag]

You chose to be the Ready and You chose to Not all over the place

[humble mauve]

no it is still there, alongside the PFC9 and the 1301 Entryman

[tacit gull]

Give the supporters the m590 you cowards

[light stag]

Will we ever get the AA 12?

[visual pendant]

No only the handle with visor

[tiny quail]

who up readying their not rn

[random obsidian]

Can we get a meme channel?🥺

[eager holly]

any mods that change the Tocs voicelines

[spring zealot]

game still crashes when we play with door wedges

[sly isle]

So is it me or after the new hesitation surrender animations from suspects they leave their gun on the floor but just stay standing. No matter how many times you shout for compliance they stay standing with hands up. And you need to deploy something or bash then before they finally do get on their knees

[tiny quail]

Yea that happens just about 70% of the time for me. Even worse it sometimes did make them surrender down, but the prompt for arrest didn't appear and the suspect acts as if he's still standing and in the hesitating stage. So you're just left in a shouting match against this guy who already surrendered

[sly isle]

thats when I just bash melee them or tell my teammates to use pepperspray taser etc

[tiny quail]

I did do that, it happened once at the streamer room in 23mb, tased, bashed so much he might as well be dead, got into an awkward 3 minutes shouting match, i ended up shooting him dead with no unauthorized penalty

[sly isle]

im all for suspects surrendering more. I think when you see a heavily kitted out swat team you are not going to try and challenge them but give up

But if they dont get on their knees you cannot command them to come to you etc

[tiny quail]

man i love this game

[mystic walrus]

Yo question, is it a bug that i got 6 players in my lobby or is it a feature

[sly isle]

Could be that the host is running a mod that adjusts the maximum player limit

[errant musk]

"Team lead is an active threat" that hurt me a lot

[mystic walrus]

Im the host and no

[twilit sand]

I'd rather shoot them honestly

Less threats to worry about

[sly isle]

stop the killing
stop the dying

[twilit sand]

Maybe don't be an active shooter then

Just a suggestion

[sly isle]

well yes. but even they. if they give up, they give up. its not for you to decide to dome them 😂

[twilit sand]

All they'll do for the rest of their life is sit in a cell anyways, might aswell save them from that

Endangering our lifes to spare a life of an active shooter

[sly isle]

everyone can play however they like. Its a game afterall

But in real life there are rule of engagements for a reason. Its also discipline

[twilit sand]

But in real life they cannot just point their gun at you without getting mag dumped

[sly isle]

thats why its great this mod supports mods too.

you can download a ''terrorist hunt'' mod and it removed like all the rules of engament and its practically just call of duty then or r6

[twilit sand]

Oh that'd be great, thanks

[sly isle]

that is very true. the hesitation animations aim the weapon too much at you 😅

if the barrel is pointed at you, (im pretty sure) you are cleared to shoot

[bitter mason]

Boring

[sinful hinge]

im back to this game after some time trying to complete an achievement but i dont see the rust belt mission even though i remember completing it

[twilit sand]

Not here, It still counts as unauthorized use of force

[sly isle]

happened to me too sometime.

In commander mode or quick play too I believe just complete the mission before it to unlock it again

[sinful hinge]

the one before it is twisted nerve?

[sly isle]

I believe it must be Elephant. the school map
according to gamerant website

[restive ferry]

It’s the border mission

[bitter mason]

The roe system is super relaxed in this game ive shot suspect that are unarmed and got no penalty
You really only get unauthorised if a suspect is unaware of you at the start of a mission or if you shoot them when theyre surrendering or sometimes hesitating

[restive ferry]

I’ve had suspects shoot me and I get unauthorized 💀

[sly isle]

they do shoot at you sometimes, empty their mag. and THEN surrender

[bitter mason]

Idk how people get unauthorised so much lmao

[restive ferry]

Currently on beach house on my Ironman mode

[bitter mason]

Ive even shot suspects that surrender but because there’s a small grace period before roe kicks in when they do that ive been fine

[restive ferry]

I hate when you’re trying for a A+ or S and you lose 1 single point from friendly fire

[bitter mason]

Yeah that sucks

Sometimes it likes to mess with you and give you a friendly fire penalty but it doesnt actually take away points

[sly isle]

When you throw a bad bang, or even worse try to use the flash launcher. but it goes off at the feet of your whole team.... -30 points friendly fire AND all your teammates are ''injured'' according to bottom right

[bitter mason]

Yeah flashes do a teeny bit of damage if they go off close to someone

Worst i get is alt leaning to throw a flash and it bounces off of thin air back towards me

[rocky plover]

happens more with stingers tbh

but yea can happen with bangs too

[errant musk]

Just saw my AI dude who make entry to a room got 1-shot

[bitter mason]

Yeah i dont really trust stingers enough to use them since there is no way to lessen the effect

[rocky plover]

yea

[hollow veldt]

is it just me or do grenade launchers not work anymore? ive had people just sit still in gas grenades completely unaffected

[thorny perch]

Gas is kinda uhh bad right now

Because suspect's will just stand in it for 20 seconds and not surrender

[tacit gull]

Gas is just slow and unreliable

[thorny perch]

Yeah just use any other launcher

[hollow veldt]

i mean ive had people not even get the like coughing animations, just straight up ready to shoot and fight in the gas

never happened pre update

[shadow ether]

Somehow, it used to be decent, now I'm considering swapping out to flashbangs and goggles instead of drip gas masks

[hollow veldt]

gas was very handy prior to this update

[tacit gull]

I dont think gas changed this update

Suspects do move as opposed to sitting still

[shadow ether]

It totally did, my team was using it a lot

[tacit gull]

So that might affect it

[hollow veldt]

yeah i used tons of gas previously

[tacit gull]

Either way, if you're trying s ranks this build don't

Wait untill the patch as there's way too many compliance bugs in place

[hollow veldt]

yeah definitely noticed that helping a friend S rank missions lol

was never this bad when i did them all

[shadow ether]

Very true
Suspects routinely take 15 punches to the face to even consider surrendering

[tacit gull]

Sometimes they dont surrender at all

Or sometimes they surrender but they dont consent to you cuffing them lol

[shadow ether]

And then the second you turn around they hop back up and mag dump

What are some good maps to go with NVGs?

[lone python]

definitely twisted nerve or hide and seek since they are dark as hell

[hollow veldt]

i mean with the new update no reason not to bring em right

[thorny perch]

The oil rig has some dark spots you can use

[shadow ether]

Yeah
We also cleared the dorms with NVGs and I kinda wanna see how the map looks without them, but it was awesome

[atomic tapir]

I haven't played for about a year... are the suspects still unbearably broken?

[shadow ether]

Yes but in a different way now

[atomic tapir]

Nice to see the devs making changes

[lone python]

i don’t own the home invasion dlc so I’m not sure about the other maps in the dlc

[tiny quail]

with the new update, they hesitate more when confronted instead of turning terminator 95% of the time, accuracy still the same though

[shadow ether]

Instead of john wick mode, now they take a minute to figure out if they wanna shoot or not, and even the most cowardly suspects take 15 punches to the face to give up

[tiny quail]

bash actually gains use now

you can crawl up to suspect who is hesitating and get the chance to punch them

[atomic tapir]

Why haven't the devs just listened to our reviews and recommendations, bots have been ruining the game for so many people since day 1. I'm always so excited to get back into this game but as soon as the bots feel rediculous i just uninstall again. Feels pointless to play a roleplay swat game, when the fundamentals are working against you

[shadow ether]

Very true! Unlike flashbangs and gas canisters, my bash is infinite

[obsidian hornet]

Guys am I hard tripping balls or wasn't there a night vision mod that highlighted civs and suspects with a red outline?

I swear there was

[thorny perch]

never heard of it

[obsidian hornet]

I found it but it requires an update

https://www.nexusmods.com/readyornot/mods/4545?tab=description if anyone's curious

Hopefully it gets updated at some point. Looks like it was updated about a month after DLC1.

[ionic fiber]

so I bought the dark waters dlc
why cant I wear the flight suit?

[jolly verge]

You need B grade on Rust Belt https://discord.com/channels/310075021882294272/963832413820174426

[ionic fiber]

oh okay, thanks

[distant plover]

So, who won the giveaway in the end?

[lost inlet]

there was

[obsidian hornet]

Uhh guys I think I just fell in love with the F90. This thing has like, negative recoil, and very low profile for CQB, with an AR cartridge

[sinful hinge]

in which missions are long range sniper scopes useful?

always finding myself preffering short-mid range

[heady spade]

devs are shitting out one dlc after the other to avoid fixing their game

[deep rain]

So the suspect is just standing there, after the new animation, has dropped the gun on the ground, has hands up, frozen in place, and my swat AI is shout at them "put your hands up" for eternity and nothing is happening.

[tired jungle]

S tier gun

[obsidian hornet]

1. Greased Palms, both the outside and inside of the warehouse are great for long range target acquisition. Mindjot has a niche use case if you can get an overwatch position on the upper area looking down into the server rooms. Valley of the Dolls, upper floors looking down onto the courtyard, you can get some solid takedowns with relative safety unless the suspects don't position there (RNG dependent.) Port Hokan is the best map for scopes. The map mixes a lot of long range and CQB, which brings me to my next tip:

2. Use long range scopes with laser sights for close range. Can't use them with flashlights, way too unwieldy for CQB situations. Would be more viable if we had secondaries with automatic fire.

[obsidian hornet]

You have to get closer. They're not compliant yet, they're just showing their hands. They're still being obstinate. Usually when I get closer they start to give up, but sometimes you need to whack them or tase them

[obsidian hornet]

LVAR also feels really good, I think .300 is also stronger than 5.56 too

[waxen flame]

does anybody know how to beat that map where the fisa agent is involved in S rank

i have been trying for months now and i keep getting a+ or dying

just if anybody had any tips

[obsidian hornet]

I want to love the LVAR but, man...it has a fucking hollowed out stock

I hate hollow stocks aesthetically

[restive ferry]

Yeah that’s like the hardest mission to S rank

[waxen flame]

fr im trying to S rank every map and i have been stuck on it for months now

[restive ferry]

Just yolo the big room where the FISA agent is until you clear that room without getting too hurt. That seems like the hardest room

[waxen flame]

the hardest thing is actually keeping your officers alive

[waxen flame]

yeah im lucky if get that big place and room cleared out, but after that when you are out in the parking area i get shot from a distance and killed

[obsidian hornet]

Nutritionist + Nutritionist + Armorer + Veteran + Heavy Ceramic

[waxen flame]

yesterday i died to the last suspect after spending nearly a hour

[restive ferry]

Yeah you need launchers to deal with the range

[waxen flame]

thx

[restive ferry]

The perks stack?

[waxen flame]

yeah i can try that

[obsidian hornet]

Some do, some don't. https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3118547658

Some also have diminishing returns on stack. And some don't.

[waxen flame]

should i equip every officer with heavy ceramic

[jolly verge]

Yes

[obsidian hornet]

The game does not actually penalize you at all for putting the heaviest armor on your AI because they're only coded to run at the same speed as you. Their reaction time and action time (planting C2 etc) don't seem to be affected by armor choice. There's no practical reason to not just use heavy armor unless Void adds some more complexity

[restive ferry]

Didn’t get a single veteran perk out of all my officers

[waxen flame]

@obsidian hornet thank you for reminding me of the traits i completely forgot about them

[jolly verge]

If you doing S you should run 2 Negotiator 1 Pacifier and 1 Armorer only
Veteran and Nutritionist pretty useless on these runs

[waxen flame]

alright

[restive ferry]

What’s best perks for A+

[jolly verge]

2 Negotiators always

[restive ferry]

I have armorer, nutritionist; intimidator, and riot control

[obsidian hornet]

Fire people and check recruitment list again (it refreshes on each firing I think, and also every time you complete a mission)

Find 2 Nutritionists, 1 Armorer, 1 Veteran (you want replacements for them too in case they get injured but this will be your main S-rank team for now)

4U Gas Station (or use a modded map with a single suspect that surrenders instantly)

Speedrun it over and over until they unlock their traits

Be warned, this is boring

[waxen flame]

what about intimidator doesnt that make them more easy to surrender?

[jolly verge]

It's wont

Only increases hesitate chance and only if they did not hit stress threshold

[waxen flame]

oh and also one question, when you S rank for the steam achievment, can you do it in practice mode or does it have to be campaign or yk the serious mode

[obsidian hornet]

If you breach properly, you never need any perks that reduce morale. A suspect choking from gas with 5 people all yelling at him to surrender is unlikely to resist even if you don't have Intimidator or Negotiator. They don't actually help that much if you use the right strategy.

[obsidian hornet]

That I'm not sure.

[jolly verge]

Does not matter, but it's easier in commander mode with traits

[waxen flame]

what exactly should i use when breaching to reduce morale

[jolly verge]

If you grind Negotiator you can just run and yell on suspects #🎨ron-screenshots-and-art message

[waxen flame]

oh so its only commander mode with traits?

[jolly verge]

Yeap

[obsidian hornet]

Baby suspects = kick, flashbang

Mean suspects = C2, stinger

A lot of mean suspects = C2, gas

[waxen flame]

i mean i can try that i have a very hard time making them surrender

[restive ferry]

Even grinding gas station is a risk on iron man mode lol

I’m on rust belt rn

[waxen flame]

im not even on iron man mode

[waxen flame]

can you train their traits?

[tired jungle]

In the game .300 performs better than 5.56 although they are mostly the same

[jolly verge]

What you mean?

[obsidian hornet]

[hidden rapids]

I dont understand how too kill effectivly as a shield

[waxen flame]

can you make their traits better, you said grinding negotiators

[obsidian hornet]

Put laser on your pistol so you see where you're aiming

[obsidian hornet]

They just meant grinding the trait itself to unlock

[hidden rapids]

But what if its far and i cant see the laser correctly

cant rely on team ai because mods that add extra suspects make them not work too well

[obsidian hornet]

Then you've discovered the weakness of the shield playstyle

Use rifle for range instead

[hidden rapids]

Ok

[obsidian hornet]

I'm using mods for excessive suspects and my team handles everything just fine. You need to lead them better. Also use traits that make them stronger

[hidden rapids]

i wish i could open door with a shield

[jolly verge]

If it's not locked you can pick it and push it

[obsidian hornet]

Use 2 Nutritionist and 1 Armorer and use heavy ceramic. Your team will die a lot less

[hidden rapids]

If i tell them too move in they instantly get killed because they sometime ignore suspects because there are too many

[obsidian hornet]

It shouldn't be instant unless you aren't using breaching tools to stun whoever's shooting them

[waxen flame]

oh alright

[hidden rapids]

c2 and flashbang

should stun hard enough

[hidden rapids]

what mod you use?

[obsidian hornet]

It also depends on the size of the room. Gas covers a wider area, and you can also throw in a second grenade while your team is throwing one in to saturate a wider area.

[hidden rapids]

its a big room with door in the middle. glass door

[obsidian hornet]

No Crack - Overdose Mode (bonus suspects)

[hidden rapids]

Im using rip or not + bullets acctualy hurt

[obsidian hornet]

Then let them throw gas one way, and you throw gas another way

[restive ferry]

Man my whole weekend is over already

[obsidian hornet]

The vanilla game is balanced around the SWAT AI having a ton of hp. Sure it's more realistic if they die in few hits but they aren't supposed to. Your grade and your ability to complete the mission is reliant on them. It would make more sense to use those mods if you had a normal-sized SWAT team like 20-30 guys

[hidden rapids]

true

But making the game very hard is fun

I mean if you bring a shotgun you can do it

you just need lots off patience and you will not get above a B

shotguns in this game are an acctual powerhouse

riffles and smgs can be effective but buckshot really feels like it could take down anything

smgs main advantage over shotgun is barrel lenght

[restive ferry]

Nothing beats SA58

[jolly verge]

New G3 and G51 much better

[hidden rapids]

shotgun beats the fal

also anyone elses reddot sights not working on the m11 and the 870

[stiff cove]

do you still get protection if you wear no helmet? it shows that i have head protection even though im not wearing a helmet

[deep rain]

Feels broken, especially the way they slide on the spot and still say "shoot me" "I am not surrendering" while hands up and completely frozen animation wise. I think something is bugged and not working as intended

[jolly verge]

You have goggles/gasmask on?

No helmet options do gives protection just like basic helmet

At least for now

[obsidian hornet]

Knowing Void, it probably is bugged.

[twilit reef]

Is there an LFG text channel I'm overlooking?

[jolly verge]

https://discord.com/channels/310075021882294272/921526746082336829

[deep rain]

Do 2 SWAT perks stack? E.g. negotiator?

Or is pointless to double up on a perk?

[jolly verge]

Armorer and kicker dont, intimidator up to 2x, other stacks up to 4x

[deep rain]

thx

[twilit reef]

I'm just blind apparently? How far down the list is this? And thank you.

[jolly verge]

Right below bug reports channel

[stiff cove]

oh okay

[twilit reef]

Ope, that's why. It's a drop down. Lord lol

Thanks again.

[gusty pulsar]

I just completed Hide and Seek with only tazer and flash bangs, and didn't get the achievement 😮 Why is that?

[wise beacon]

in the relapse map,
one or more people to handcuff are missing, but I can't find them

[jolly verge]

Get at least C grade? If you used lockpick or anything else you wont get it

[gusty pulsar]

no way lol i did use a lockpick

thanks, ill have to try again

[jolly verge]

If you do it with swat ai you can give them normal guns and let them kill everyone, they also can breach doors with grenades and etc

[gusty pulsar]

lol really

[jolly verge]

Yeap, just dont give them shields

[gusty pulsar]

thats a bit odd for an achievement but hey i guess it works. ive proven to myself i can do it solo 😄

[hidden rapids]

May the devs or mod community grant us a sig p228 in ready or not

🙏

[restive ferry]

Sig? Are you gay or something

[hidden rapids]

[ornate hazel]

There's already a 229. It'd be redundant.

[hidden rapids]

no its a 226 isnt it?

[lofty gorge]

Damn, Elephant with AI is so hard to do

[ornate hazel]

Nope, it's a P229

P226 is signified by the longer barrel

[hidden rapids]

its the p229 in a sig made bullet?

[ornate hazel]

No, it's in 9mm luger

And I don't think .357 SIG was ever that popular with that many agencies, in the US at least

[hidden rapids]

didnt the secret service use it

[ornate hazel]

Until 2019, not anymore

[hidden rapids]

whydoes sig make p220's in so many calibers

and why do they name them like this WHY

[ornate hazel]

Market appeal, trying to capture as many different types of users as possible

[rocky plover]

a bit, mostly used are .40 S&W, .45 auto & ofc 9 mm

[nocturne oyster]

I fucking LOVE it when a dude makes literally no sound and just pops around a corner and 180 headshots me like a CoD player

[hidden rapids]

what is the best pistol in this game?

[nocturne oyster]

Probably 5.7

[hidden rapids]

out off metal i mean i refuse too use polymer

[nocturne oyster]

Highest capacity, good AP

...What

[rocky plover]

tbh all of them are good in their own way, it's all down personal preference at the end of the day

[nocturne oyster]

What the fuck does that even mean? You know all of the pistols contain some level of polymer most likely

[hidden rapids]

true but a glock is way more polymer and polymer no look good

[tacit gull]

The 5.7 is an absolute peashooter

[hidden rapids]

hard fucking metal look better

[nocturne oyster]

What a bizzare metric

[tacit gull]

If you want a strong gun that also has decent mag cap then the USP is pretty good

[nocturne oyster]

????

[tacit gull]

Otherwise any 9mm does fine

[rocky plover]

ye the 5.7 just bypasses armor and barely does damage

[hidden rapids]

45 acp is best for bodyshots but 9mil does good enough too the head

i never liked the 5.7x28 bullet

[nocturne oyster]

What does that even mean

Like you think it's ugly..? You think it's conceptually bad? ???

[hidden rapids]

ugly

[nocturne oyster]

It's like a rifle round

[hidden rapids]

its a pdw round

[nocturne oyster]

But small

[nocturne oyster]

"pdw round" is a poor descriptor at best

Seeing as PDWs themselves are vague as fuck and employ all kinds of rounds

[ornate hazel]

Never seen someone dislike a gun based on the fact that the ammo (which you barely never see anyway) is ugly...

[hidden rapids]

I know but its called i dont make the vocabulary do i

[nocturne oyster]

Yeah this is a nutjob take

[ornate hazel]

Each to their own I guess ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[hidden rapids]

If you see a gun in 380 your going to instantly think "ha weak"

because its 18 instead off 19mm

[nocturne oyster]

I see .22 guns in games and my first though isn't "haha weak"

It depends on the game and the gun

[rocky plover]

its 17 actually

[hidden rapids]

[rocky plover]

just curious though how did the convo switch from ingame to IRL? xD

[hidden rapids]

when i see a 22lr gun i think off a nice looking gun with 0 power as the downside

[hidden rapids]

cause the game is quite realistic

[rocky plover]

not really tbh, the 5.7 is good irl, but sucks in game

[nocturne oyster]

It doesn't suck in game tho

[amber dock]

Just like every argument in here, people always have to bring in irl stuff or bring in irrelevant stuff into the conversation

[ornate hazel]

It depends on the circumstances

[rocky plover]

yea lmao XD

[nocturne oyster]

Both the Five-Seven pistol and especially the P90 are solid picks

[rocky plover]

you're right, outclassed by almost every other pistol in game is what I meant.

[jolly verge]

5.7 bad only if you shoot limbs with AP ammo, for torso it's always 3 shots to incap

[rocky plover]

while USP is 2 shot xD

[hidden rapids]

the p90 will get you 2 enemies per mag if you go for body

[jolly verge]

Yes, up to L2 only vests

[nocturne oyster]

Literally untrue lmao

[nocturne oyster]

Skill issue

[rocky plover]

how when a .45 or 9mm will kill in less bullets lol

[nocturne oyster]

25 shots per target?

[hidden rapids]

from what ive heared

[rocky plover]

it just sucks in game and that's it

[nocturne oyster]

"from what I've heard" Try using it lmao

[hidden rapids]

uh no

[nocturne oyster]

Unironically skill issue

[rocky plover]

used to be op but it's now an airsoft gun lol

[hidden rapids]

Shotguns are the best

[nocturne oyster]

😂

[ornate hazel]

You don't get an informed opinion through hearing someone else just saying something, at least not compared to first hand experience :p

[rocky plover]

and the .357 magnum, lets go 1 shots

[hidden rapids]

The 5.7x28 round is bad, this post was made by hk 4.6x30 AP gang

[nocturne oyster]

Literally deemed worse by everyone

Good luck

[hidden rapids]

its made for the mp7 so its automaticly better

[ornate hazel]

:/

[nocturne oyster]

You mean the MP7 that was made to directly compete against the P90 and lost? That one?

[hidden rapids]

yes exactly

It looks better so it wins even if the EU chose the 5.7

[ornate hazel]

It wasn't just the EU, it was the entirety of NATO...

[hidden rapids]

quite similar

[ornate hazel]

what

[nocturne oyster]

Tell me you don't know shit without saying you don't know shit

This coming from someone who doesn't know shit

They look the fucking same btw, 5.7 is just bigger and better than 4.6

[hidden rapids]

I know that but i like the 4.6 more

[nocturne oyster]

I thought your only flimy ass argument was that it looks better

😏

[ornate hazel]

What kind of money is H&K paying you to have you ignore reality?

:D

[nocturne oyster]

A lot I imagine

[hidden rapids]

300 bucks a month

[nocturne oyster]

All that said, I love H&K

They make good shit, but so does FN

[hidden rapids]

the P90 is NOT good shit

[nocturne oyster]

Ok heretic 👌

[ornate hazel]

Based on what metric?

[nocturne oyster]

All jokes aside please explain what's actually wrong with it

I'm genuinely curious

[hidden rapids]

i dont like how it looks 🍞

[nocturne oyster]

L

[hidden rapids]

i need too do something should i do the thing or not do the thing?

[ornate hazel]

Then it's just an aesthetical preference, not an objective fact

[nocturne oyster]

It's clear they don't actually care about facts

[hidden rapids]

exactly

[nocturne oyster]

You could've started with that instead of making a fool of yourself

[hidden rapids]

probably

[nocturne oyster]

Ok I have to ask now out of curiosity

Speaking of weird AP pistol/smg round

How do we feel about the russian Tokarev bullets, the TT-33, the PPSh-43, all that?

[hidden rapids]

pretty cool

And this time its not because they look good

Its because they are decent bullets

[nocturne oyster]

I think they're kindd of neat, mostly because I like the PPSh-42. I don't honestly have a clue how well they performed.

I might be misremembering the numbers, I'm sure some gun nerd will correct me

[hidden rapids]

In game all the bullets are cool and all but buckshot feels better

[nocturne oyster]

I know there's the latter models without the wood bits, I know there are the finnish variants that invented the drum mag and then the russians copied it

[hidden rapids]

is buckshot a bullet?

[nocturne oyster]

No

[hidden rapids]

Should i call it shell?

Speaking is hard 😭

[nocturne oyster]

I'm not 100% on the exact terminology but the bullet is the projectile that flies out of a pistol or a rifle. A shotgun fires buckshot or a slug or some other special projectile, like flechettes. The empty casings are called, well, casings, or shells.

[ornate hazel]

A bullet is the projectile being launched from the casing

[nocturne oyster]

Shotgun rounds are more often known as shells, though

[ornate hazel]

The combination of a bullet and casing makes a full cartridge

[nocturne oyster]

So buckshot would be, well, buckshot or a shotgun shell I guess

[ornate hazel]

With propellant and a primer obviously

[nocturne oyster]

Yes, cartridge is the word I was looking for

That's the whole package

But not like a NES cartridge

That's a whole other story

[hidden rapids]

Why is the english language so easy except for really specific terms

[nocturne oyster]

Idk

It's not my native language, but I feel the same way

People always say that english is really hard but I don't think it is.

[hidden rapids]

Well at least its not german

[nocturne oyster]

You wanna talk hard languages, try speaking chinese or finnish

[gusty pulsar]

i tried glock, 1911, socom and FN. the FN performs best by far in my opinion. seems to do exactly what it was designed to 😄

[hidden rapids]

German is a nightmare hate the language. Der oder Das? you just have too remember

Well at least italian is simple

[nocturne oyster]

I tried to learn german once, and it did not end up well. That's not necessarily any indication though, it turns out I just didn't give that many fucks and I gave up very early.

[gusty pulsar]

got A rating now, did it with the squad, did not get the achievement :<

[ornate hazel]

Did you empty your ammo slots or?

[nocturne oyster]

Yeah I feel like the USP and 5.7 are the top tier ones

[hidden rapids]

the one thing one off my parental figures asked me is too learn german perfectly. I failed 😔

[ornate hazel]

Haven't tried doing the achievement, so I wouldn't know if it works

[nocturne oyster]

German is stupid anyway. THey have gendered words, and they don't exist in english or finnish so it was bizzare to me

[jolly verge]

You did something wrong, what else did you use in mission?

[hidden rapids]

der die oder das

[nocturne oyster]

I did not learn shit and I have no clue what that means

[hidden rapids]

Die is female but der oder das you just gotta remember it except for cars alchohol and a few other things

[nocturne oyster]

brb

[ornate hazel]

Are you Finnish? c:

[hidden rapids]

the cat could either be der die oder das cat it depends for every word

[grim forge]

So, I just unlocked "Time's Up!". After some venturing in the internet best I've got what is that: it is a shotgun, yes? Curious because it doesn't show up on my shotguns list in the gear selection. What's up with that? 🙂

[jolly verge]

All guns unlocked from the start. Time's Up is a tattoo

[grim forge]

Found it. Thanks. I wonder why net said it was a shotgun. Oh well 🙂

[stone bay]

U guys alive yet? @karmic niche @balmy narwhal

[hidden rapids]

we need cats in the station

Like fill the police station up with cats it would be silly

[gusty pulsar]

I joined a random public lobby, played some missions, then Port came up, and after shooting my way through it with shotgun and 357 it triggered the achievement lol

some little bug it seems

[jolly verge]

Yeah, that normal, everyone in host lobby can use what ever they want, just like swat ai

[tacit gull]

Did you kill anybody?

[hushed rivet]

[gusty pulsar]

plenty

[tired jungle]

mf killed nobody

yes the hanged man is bugged

[balmy narwhal]

Had a long shift man, I’m dead tired I’ll be on later tonight

[stone bay]

Sure

[balmy narwhal]

I will I promise

[stone bay]

You don't have to

[karmic niche]

I'm just getting up the benadryl had me acting up😂

Was tired asf

Wtff 💀

I do agree on the nugget thing it does count as one nugget

[umbral oar]

how would i trigger the rally system

i guess being loud and stressing people out

[golden spear]

Wow - 23 megabytes a second was a hell of a level. I missed two soft objectives and have no idea what they where, i thought I checked everywhere ^^’

Gives a reason to go back and play the level again in practice mode

Definitely was not expecting the intel going in to be critically wrong

[loud crescent]

soft objectives: ||the streamer's PC, his bedside drawers, and the server farm downstairs||

[umbral oar]

elysium reminds me a lot of max payne 3

[versed trail]

guys am I tripping or literally making suspects on yach surrender is nearly impossible

[amber dock]

no not only you

[tired jungle]

How

[shy tulip]

Just you two

I find they give up way too easy on Seraglio, assuming you aren't kicking in every door or C2ing.

[frail pier]

They give up if you shoot them in head.... so yeh it's a skill issue

[shy tulip]

That is true

[tired jungle]

I wouldn't wanna die for some entitled ass prince either

[frail pier]

Sometimes gettin Arab money isn't enough

[tired jungle]

I fucking hate that guy

He has never had to lift his finger to do anything but someone he still resists being punched in the stomach or getting shot by a beanbag

Like bro, he should be weak as fuck to pain

Running away like the sonic is difficult enough

Thankfully you can just shoot him pretty much on sight without penalty

[nova sequoia]

my ron files are corrupted and wont let me play the game

i dunno whats wrong with em tho

are there no dev logs or anything?

[versed trail]

ongg to easy😭🙏

[shy tulip]

#❓modding-faq

[umbral oar]

the song, the suspects, the setting

[tired jungle]

I guess

[hidden rapids]

WE NEED THE MP5SDK IN THE GAME!!!

[amber dock]

[unkempt mango]

all im saying is they knew what they were doing when they added the mp5sd and the oil rig

[frail pier]

We need a MIG-23 in the game

[versed trail]

guys what are the possible spawnpoints for the laptop on oil rig?
Im searching like for 20 minutes its literally the last objective right now and Im getting S

[unkempt mango]

idk im still trying to finish the oil rig mission i keep getting absolutely fucked because its a labyrinth

[tired jungle]

The layout is pretty simple once you get it

2 floors + control room. Inside areas are surrounded by catwalks

Mf listens to kdot

That's crazy

[shy tulip]

It's confusing at first, but everything just loops in on itself, you get the hang of it

[sharp grove]

Just completed the campaign. Finished hide and seek 1st attempt S rank.
Such an amazing game, one of the few I've watched the credits
Excited to 100% the achievements now ^^
And obviously complete the glc missions as well!

Also spent 51 minutes on Relapse this morning lmao
2nd attempt S rank, was scary at first but ngl doing garage entrance made it so much easier for me

[versed trail]

still can't find it😭

[shy tulip]

Check literally next to the hostages.

Eye level on a platform

[versed trail]

its randomized and thats the problem. It isn't there

[jolly verge]

It's always supposed to be near hostages who already cuffed

[tired jungle]

It's always in the same room as the hostages

You can also just shoot the laptop to get the obj done

[shy tulip]

Why have i never tried that

[summer copper]

not violent enough

[frail pier]

Time to learn places I can wallbang the laptop

[shy tulip]

But can you stinger it

or batter ram

[unkempt mango]

i have a ram and a laptop right now let me find out

[frail pier]

Can you run doom on it

[summer copper]

chot gun

[unkempt mango]

are you sure its by the pre cuffed hostages

by the control room

[unkempt mango]

you cannot

[supple blade]

How come every time I give an officer a loadout, it reverts back to the default every time I switch away? I genuinely can't tell if it's me or the game

[crisp gust]

I’m having a hard time s ranking three letter triad. Does anyone have any Strats like spawn location, guns to use, rooms to clear first?

Port hokan was beyond easier to s rank than this

[summer copper]

is three letter triad the most difficult level in the game?

[umbral oar]

Probably

i think it has the most suspects

[shy tulip]

Geometry is also pretty complex depending on how you approach it

One of the two factions on the map is also pretty well warmed

[crisp gust]

Some guys just tank bean bags

Clearly rooms is kinda pointless as these dudes run around like crazy all over the map

I was going against a dude who was running in every single room around me. He was circling me by running in all the rooms and ultimately got behind me and killed me

[stone bay]

wait holup, found your cousin @dense pike

[dense pike]

except kobalt and kobold are two different words

[stone bay]

I would say twins if it was the same word

[dense pike]

except for the alt and old not sounding the same but hey!

[crisp gust]

I just want to figure out how to s rank triad mission

[stone bay]

barely

[strong ibex]

Do you guys also crash to desktop sometimes when editing loadouts / weapons? Often crash when exiting the loadout menu

[peak wyvern]

how do u even get S rank on a mission

[still trench]

bruh

[peak wyvern]

i always do my best and get A+

[karmic niche]

Is it just me or did they nerf the tazer

[karmic niche]

"Do better."

😂😭

[peak wyvern]

what is else to do better they dont even list it

and ion think they nerfecd the tazer

[karmic niche]

Don't kill suspects only arrest

[still trench]

who even uses tazers

[peak wyvern]

tasers are goated tho

[karmic niche]

A decent bit of people

[karmic niche]

That's what I'm saying

[still trench]

give a me fkin minigun mod so i could blast everyone in that One room.. In 13 triad letter mission

[karmic niche]

Skill issue fr

[shy tulip]

You cannot kill anyone and must collect everything, that's it

[still trench]

i got all achievements wym

[peak wyvern]

its a gun porn game but you cant kill anyone

[karmic niche]

Idk why folks are so concerned about achievements💀

[peak wyvern]

i ran 2 intimidators and beanbag shotgun and suspects sometimes aint gaf and blast back

[still trench]

why are u spamming "skill issue" for no reason

[karmic niche]

I said it once😂

[still trench]

Ah.. nvm. Skull n cryin emojis tells everything about u

[karmic niche]

What does that mean?

[still trench]

Anyway, which map of the new DLC is ya favorite?

[peak wyvern]

mod.io dlc

i dont have money for the dlcs 😭

[still trench]

Eu? we could play some tmrw idk

[karmic niche]

So many mods in mod.io don't work😭

[peak wyvern]

if u host and u have the dlc i can join too?

[still trench]

ye

[mighty dirge]

Yes

[karmic niche]

✅️

[peak wyvern]

real my game been corrupting so much

[peak wyvern]

thats so nice of them

[still trench]

imagine using In Game mod tab

[karmic niche]

Yeah the only mod that works for me in Visceral blood

[still trench]

old sht btw

[mighty dirge]

Jesus Christ, I thought this was common knowledge - don't use mod.io

Use Nexus

[still trench]

Always nexus...

[karmic niche]

Nexus confuses my small brain

[peak wyvern]

i only have 40h how im supposed to find that out

[still trench]

soo

[mighty dirge]

??? How small is your brain? It's just putting a file into a folder?

[peak wyvern]

thats hard can u come over and do that for me

[karmic niche]

🥜

Fr

[still trench]

crazy brainrot

[peak wyvern]

valley of the dolls and go in as the elephant mission suspect is better than mods

[still trench]

Without dlcs, the Hotel is my favorite ngl

[karmic niche]

Nah brainrot is shit kids nowadays be watching the fact skibidi toilet is in Walmart is proof our democracy is failing💀

[still trench]

that creepy Chorus adds so much into it

[peak wyvern]

my fav is the forest mission where the ghilli guy is

short but scary, he got good aim

they should add more missions with hella traps and fully trained suspects

[mighty dirge]

The sound design on that level is incredible

[peak wyvern]

imo every level is a different shard of excitment & shock

[karmic niche]

Run a raid on a militia pretty much

[peak wyvern]

yeah but they should make it complicated af

[karmic niche]

Have a Labyrinth type level

[peak wyvern]

whats that

[still trench]

Lethal obsession

[karmic niche]

Pretty much a extremely complicated maze or something along that line

[peak wyvern]

yeahhhhhh

[karmic niche]

Ion remember rn I'd have to search up the definition

[peak wyvern]

not that complicated, somethign liek the mexicanborder underground mission

[still trench]

"Breach with Shotgun"... Yk the deal.

[karmic niche]

Right

[still trench]

never gets old.

[peak wyvern]

i did it to my new friend, peak humour

[karmic niche]

I favorite misson that isn't DLC is probably Ideas of March

[peak wyvern]

ides

[karmic niche]

😭 I got that map memorized shits pretty good, the last suspect always catches me lackin

[peak wyvern]

i like it very much but its always the suspects outside that snipe me with a makarov

[karmic niche]

I love how much detail VOID puts into every level

It's nice

[still trench]

gotta wait 4 month for DLC 3 ig

[karmic niche]

It's worth it

[still trench]

i wonder where we gonna go now

[peak wyvern]

least fav map?

[still trench]

Open city? With roads n halls

[karmic niche]

Yeah and how much of a time jump there will be

[still trench]

Or underground bases

[karmic niche]

Because between DLC 1 and 2 there was a year and a half jump

[humble mauve]

a well deserved break for D Platoon I think

[karmic niche]

Fr

[humble mauve]

considering all of the base game occurs in ~1 year

[still trench]

or LSPD gets raided.

[karmic niche]

Yeah shits nutty, I wonder how judge is keeping it together

[peak wyvern]

real

[karmic niche]

He's the only member that doesn't get rotated out😭

[peak wyvern]

hes the commander after all

[karmic niche]

True

[peak wyvern]

but my online character been thru worse, so many flashbangs by tmates and so many hits by teamates

[shy tulip]

Might take longer

[still trench]

yall new in ron or nah

[peak wyvern]

40h said before

[shy tulip]

There is a planned free update between DLC 2 and DLC 3

[karmic niche]

W

[still trench]

Dont miss some christmas stuff..

[peak wyvern]

40h since beta tho so like on and off

[peak wyvern]

wait does this mean we will have a sale on the dlcs in a week????

[karmic niche]

Rip

[peak wyvern]

atleast hes mad dripped out tho

[karmic niche]

Real asf😂

[still trench]

idk, i just want some christmas atmosphere in ron

[karmic niche]

Shoot Santa.

[still trench]

like with halloween, pumpkin head...

[karmic niche]

Raiding the toy factory

[peak wyvern]

real

[karmic niche]

Santa's helpers have 249's😂

[still trench]

1 free snow mission would be a blessing for us ngl

[karmic niche]

Frfr

Would be pretty sick

[peak wyvern]

imagine a stinger but as a tree decoration

[eager holly]

mod io is shit

[peak wyvern]

why is it still in the game

[karmic niche]

Magazines wrapped as presents

[peak wyvern]

bro F that i want a hot woman in my team

[karmic niche]

Man's down bad😂

[peak wyvern]

im just sayin it wont be a bad addition to the game 🙎

[karmic niche]

Fuck that I want Mike Vining in my team

[peak wyvern]

real af for that

wouldnt VOID make banks if they did a xbox/ps port

[karmic niche]

Shi if you want I can host the dlc for you

[karmic niche]

Oh yeah %100 they would

And they already got the xbox controller scheme down

Playing ready or not with a controller is gas

[thorn egret]

VOID...GIVE US THE OPTION TO CUSTOMIZE HELMETLESS HEAD GEAR (90s FBI hat, no headphones, etc) AND MY LIFE IS YOURS!

[peak wyvern]

im geniune ass at controller

[karmic niche]

Damnnnnn

[thorn egret]

Rockstar games w/ controller basically gives you aimbot

[karmic niche]

Yeah kinda I stopped playing GTA 5 that shits just a money grab now

[peak wyvern]

ik all u need to do to secure a kill u just gotta aim a lil to the top

its only fun w friends

[karmic niche]

I miss the old gta online fr

[peak wyvern]

prime gtao in lockdown was IT

[karmic niche]

Frr

[thorn egret]

If I ever go back to GTA Online, I'm going to the RP servers they got

[hidden rapids]

@nocturne oyster is the m11 p228 p229 or p226 i cant figure it out wikipedia tells me its a p228

[karmic niche]

Atp only fivem is good for gtao

[nocturne oyster]

Do I look like a Wiki page? I don't know

[covert aurora]

Think its a 229 legion

[nocturne oyster]

It's a 220 something

[thorn egret]

Yeah I meant Fivem
I remember running it on my old laptop and the performance was ROUGH