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plush leaf
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looks at the Post Office

eager walrus
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Looks at any of the large maps

unborn lotus
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Question do weapon mods sync between host and clients or do they only see vanilla stuff?

forest lichen
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it's not that bad compared to Greased Palms

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it's just relapse is pretty large

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but greased palms and port are large AND open

opal basin
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Tru

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Port just gets points because story

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I love how it has judge talking outside of gameplay

covert aurora
unborn lotus
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Sad

covert aurora
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Such is the limitations of mods

unborn lotus
covert aurora
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Correct, tho mod io doesnt really work

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Besides the point. If they domt have the mod they will not see it.

haughty roost
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Any suggestions for the 4th mission? I'm having a lot of difficulty clearing it.

severe oak
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where is the "refine results" on nexus

quasi leaf
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when i subscribe in the ingame ron workshop is it automatically on?

covert aurora
sweet bane
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Did you use nvidia dlss?

compact sequoia
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how often do you guys use pistol instead of your primary while clearing besides pistol challenge run

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or roleplaying as a beat cop

covert aurora
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if i run out of primary and still in a fire fight i will swap

compact sequoia
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i just do fast reload

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feels like it's almost as fast as swapping ngl

covert aurora
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fair enough'

compact sequoia
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i do swap if there's a suspect right in front of me and i'm out

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but i'm kinda fucked at that point already so

crystal nacelle
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at that point just shoot because u will die whilst swapping (depends if he’s armed with a gun)

compact sequoia
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armed of course

static tendon
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Pistols are kinda ass most of the time

eager walrus
forest lichen
faint wraith
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How do you get "The Fool" achievement?

jolly verge
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Get killed by civi

faint wraith
jolly verge
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Twisted nerve, valley and dorms

faint wraith
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Got it thanks

tacit gull
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Put your AI on hold, walk in, get to the blonde woman without shouting at her and fucking die

frail pier
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I figured it was possible on twisted since that map and dorms use the same civs except for the red jacket chick.

lost inlet
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would getting killed by bomb vest civi counts?

frail pier
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I wouldn't think so no. They're not triggering it themselves. It's either a suspect hits them or you hit them.

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It's only tied to getting the shit beat out of you by a civilian

lost inlet
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i c

faint wraith
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I let the lady on valley kill me and I didn't get it. What the glob?

lost inlet
jolly verge
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You playing in multiplayer, that the reason

faint wraith
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But I've been playing multiplayer this whole time and I've been getting other achievements

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I only play multiplayer cause I hate the A.I. cops

jolly verge
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You can just hold them on spawn

faint wraith
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I guess

frail pier
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It do be like that sometimes

dense spruce
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I hate how some hostages can actually start throwing hands at you and piece you up

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like, it's to a point where your screen shakes and you can't see anything and they send you to sleep

lost inlet
plush knoll
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Is it just me or do you think the accuracy penalty for being shot/suppressed is high on leo and non existent on suspects?

jolly verge
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The only thing is that they dont have any suppression effect like player, it's will only damage their morale

heavy obsidian
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What are the requirements to get an S on a mission? I've done missions perfectly and solo but i still have trouble getting an S rank (requirements other than the basics like all objectives and evidence)

amber dock
heavy obsidian
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assuming i complete every objective

amber dock
heavy obsidian
plush knoll
# jolly verge The only thing is that they dont have any suppression effect like player, it's w...

Got it, so I suck. What made me think there was a penalty is I’m on target but my reaction is just a millisecond slower so when I get shot my bullet doesn’t hit despite being on target. So it’s the flinch I guess throwing me off slightly.

Is it by design that suspects don’t have suppression or just one of those things they didn’t implement? As a SWAT operator I should be hitting all of my shots which I get.

feral mango
topaz linden
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Am I stupid or is it impossible to not have a dead hostage in the elephant level

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Or like where the heck are the hostages. I just kinda really need tips

shy tulip
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You have to be fast, know how the AI work, and be lucky

tacit gull
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if you dont find the suspects in time unlucky

knotty solstice
serene acorn
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running it in multiplayer is definitely faster as well if you can move well as a group

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singleplayer elephant prolly hard

frail pier
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There's always 4 suspects on Elephant in vanilla. Bum rush and drop 3, the last one will generally push you at that point, defuse bombs then go for civs.

fringe plover
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how to remove upper right text ?

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game version, build etc.

amber dock
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Atm only possible with mods

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To my knowledge

dense spruce
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man

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port hokan genuinely disturbed me

wintry barn
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Or pepper ball shotgun (i like AR more)

drifting fog
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max suspects is so fun and intense

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firefights w like 10+ suspects is crazy

wind ridge
mental fable
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Hey, do y'all think the oil rig is conencted to the Lawmaker map?

knotty solstice
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are AI supposed to get damaged from their own launcher?

faint wraith
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i got something weird happen. I was going for the "way out west" achievement, but I was having a hard time. I decided to invite my roommate to do the mission with to get it as well. After we were done, he got the achievement but I didn't. what the glob???

amber dock
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But yeah the achievement can be so fucked for certain people

frail pier
stable kernel
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Blue screen = your computer has the issue, not the game

forest lichen
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yeah just get it to a repair shop

frail pier
stable kernel
frail pier
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Get tricked not treated

covert aurora
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insert damn meme here

prime mural
tired jungle
faint wraith
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I have been trying to get the "Meldonin" achievement for the past hour. Kill me

frail pier
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or incap civs and restrain. your choice

magic hearth
winter pendant
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Use swat ai to your advantage to hold/push the halls while you work the rooms

amber dock
orchid imp
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does only the host get achievements and like the rank to actually count? (multiplayer)

amber dock
orchid imp
orchid imp
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yeah

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whats that even mean

amber dock
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It means the game won’t save your score

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On the mission selector

timber mesa
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situation unresolved

amber dock
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Void dev answer is a swat term

stable kernel
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Real

wintry barn
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Remind me the revolver challenge pls?

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It was on rust belt and the squad has to carry revolver?

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Can i use grandes? Or it has to be only revolver

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Whats the coyote mission???

frail pier
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You can't use anything but a revolver. Your swat don't count

wanton moat
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Do enemies do more damage on later levels or have I just been getting hit more?

wintry barn
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How can i do dorms under 5 minutes?

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There is allways a fking evidence that i have to search for an hour to complete the level on S, i spam gold 6 but they dont search anything

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The search option goes for rooms? Or its in general in all the map?

frail pier
wintry barn
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Oh ok

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Arrest civs and kill rest

frail pier
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Yea

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After you get the 5 arrests

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If you're using swat you can split teams on hallways or rooms, while you wonder off on your own. If you're doing it solo send civs to exit, or incap civs. Your pick

wintry barn
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I prefer going fast, blue left doors blue and right red

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Its faster

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But incap civs doesnt count?

frail pier
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One rifle round to the chest incaps civs. Just don't hit limbs or you're fucked.

tired jungle
wintry barn
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I cant coordinate man

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I gotta be very very fast and the team the same

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While they search rooms things mess up and we have to cuff s lot of people

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No way bro i fucked it up because i didnt arrest 3 armed suspects

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The time was good 3:56

umbral oar
wintry barn
umbral oar
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nothing

fervent gale
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How do I play better with the AKS-74u with irons than with a proper setup? lol

frail pier
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Idk I feel the same with angled grip on SA58 and with irons lol.

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RoN turns into a point and click adventure at that point

shy tulip
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meanwhile you have people missing a suspect point blank (within like 3-5 feet)

wintry barn
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I need help

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I cant do dorms under 5 mins

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Its impossible

frail pier
wintry barn
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Arrest 5 armed suspects, make them surrender by magic (loose time making them surrender a lot) and more stuff

dark tartan
wintry barn
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I cant VC rn

dark tartan
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just gotta storm it

wintry barn
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Its not killing everyone, also yoh gotta arrest 5 suspects

dark tartan
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i know lol

wintry barn
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So if you kill a lot maybe you cant do that obj

dark tartan
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1 person storms lethal, another storms non lethal

frail pier
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Thats why you arrest the 5 first then kill the rest

dark tartan
# wintry barn Wdym

i mean you can do it however you want, either just arrest the 1st 5 suspects with tasers or pepperball, or if you are playing with someone then 1 of you can run non lethal weapons while the other runs lethal weapons

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there are 12-15 suspects and civs every time. just gotta be quick with getting them to surrender

wintry barn
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Sometimes they stay a lot of time to surrender even with gas

dark tartan
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if you want to make it really easy just run gas

wintry barn
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It takes a lot of time with gas

dark tartan
wintry barn
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Gas, stay 2 hours until they stop running in circles or complaining

frail pier
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Suspect count is 11-13 on dorms

dark tartan
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so total is 17-21?

frail pier
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Yea

dark tartan
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thought there were fewer. all good tho

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but yeah fabian idk me and some randoms in here just went as fast as we could and got it in 2 or 3 tries. definitely doable. it helps if you have 4-5 people as well

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havent done it solo, that would be pretty tough

ornate wadi
wintry barn
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Also the suspects that start yapping too much before they surrender

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That makes me loose a lot of time

frail pier
ornate wadi
fervent gale
ornate wadi
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That’s been my solution atleast

fervent gale
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But RoN is 95% Mindset and you can't convince me otherwise

wintry barn
dark tartan
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you middle click them and hit 5

fervent gale
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Like I'm just so much less tense with a less serious built like that

frail pier
wintry barn
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I point them with comms? Or how do i send them

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That should help me

frail pier
dark tartan
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put your crosshair over them when they are surrendered, click 5

wintry barn
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I dont remember having that option

dark tartan
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well middle click first then hit 5***

wintry barn
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But i will see

dark tartan
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its there lol

wintry barn
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Lol firs time i discover it after an almost full S run

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xD

frail pier
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There's caveats to it though. Once you learn what can cause to bug them out its easy to avoid.

wintry barn
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I saw on the first mission that some guys appear and carry suspects out but idk how

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I didnt press any comm

dark tartan
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sort of cheating, but if you are struggling to get the challenge done and are always off by 10-15 seconds, you could just download faster arrest mod. its very convenient

frail pier
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That works too

wintry barn
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Oh so the command is not in vanilla?

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The send them to exit one

frail pier
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it is

dark tartan
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no no no....the send to exit command is in nilla

wintry barn
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Cool

frail pier
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the faster arrest is a mod

wintry barn
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After S run im doing ironman mode

frail pier
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Sending civs to exit though you have to be in a certain radius. I think its the north entrance that works best for it? I cant remember the name. But if you send civs from 1st floor and before you get halfway through second i wouldnt send anymore to the exit. Just normal restrain. You'll get the ones you sent to exit counted when you get near the soft OBJ (the bong on the stand)

wintry barn
dark tartan
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to suffer

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just kidding, i dont know to be honest i dont play the single player

frail pier
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You can still cheese ironman mode. But after the AI nerf its really not needed.

dark tartan
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what would you need to do to cheese

frail pier
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alt f4 when an officer dies or if you die. Thats what I did early into 1.0 lol. Sending to therapy is mid just non lethal gas station a couple times to fix their stress. Especially for keeping traits you want.

dark tartan
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see thats the only reason i am not interested in the single player. i love the game for the combat, i dont care about managing officer mental health lol

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maybe ill try it one day but it just doesnt sound appealing to me

frail pier
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Don't kill and play the game the way its intended. Its not as bad as it used to be.

dark tartan
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dont kill as in run full non-lethal?

frail pier
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You can kill some but try to arrest as much as you can. You can also do non lethal

dark tartan
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maybe one day

frail pier
wintry barn
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Why alt f4?

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To not loose achievement?

frail pier
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Oh i figured you're going for that and the watch

opal basin
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I only play quick play for single player now

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Stopped playing commander mode since greased palms

wintry barn
frail pier
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Nah

opal basin
wintry barn
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Im now at relapse trying to get S

opal basin
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Mostly annoying tho, that was a few months ago tho. Probably will revisit commander

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I also like quickplay because I like the characters

wintry barn
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I have all S but im at relapse, then the last mission and DLC to make full S

opal basin
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Quick play feels more personal I guess

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Like with Prescott king and the others

wintry barn
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I never played multiplayer

opal basin
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Multiplayer I only play with my friends

wintry barn
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Whats the quick mode?

opal basin
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Never public

opal basin
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You always have the same 4 squad members

wintry barn
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Thats not training mode?

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Wow i didnt know it

opal basin
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It used to be called training mode but it’s actually just less stressful commander

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They renamed it to more correctly reflect its purpose

amber dock
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Just say it's commander mode without the mental health system

opal basin
tired jungle
amber dock
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They barley make a diff

tired jungle
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They certainly can make a difference

opal basin
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Mods

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Use mods for abilities I guess

wintry barn
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I see quick play and commander progress are the same

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So its better to play quick mode?

shy tulip
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If you want the traits/stress mode, commander, otherwise quick play

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Playing commander unlocks maps in quick play, but commander saves are their own thing

opal basin
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Yeah

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I play quick play, it’s more fun

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Also i feel a bigger connection to my team because they aren’t random

junior wedge
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hi :3

unreal goblet
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how do i get new missions?

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completed the first 4 but still none

opal basin
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in what mode

wintry barn
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I have 1 mission left to get all missions on S

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The hospital one

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For me probably the hardest one

lost inlet
wintry barn
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Hospital is confusing and enemies are unpredictable

lost inlet
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Enemies’s armors on that level can only go up to 3A so you have plenty of options to deal with them

wintry barn
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They insta blast you

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Only with gas or flash

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Thats the options šŸ˜‚

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I hope more content and mechanics come in the future

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For more lore or expansions

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The group in Lawmaker mission, looks like a group that appears only in that mission but we dont know nothing about them

lost inlet
wintry barn
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I saw diff reactions

lost inlet
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Maybe except 213 where they actually became hesitated

wintry barn
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Sometimes they are very agressive and others are more easy

lost inlet
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Other are just walking backward to a cover so they can shoot you more safely

lost inlet
wintry barn
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Oh

lost inlet
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213 was my one of my fav maps

wintry barn
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Dorms be like: Wow we thought there were normal dorms but its a Crackhouse full of crazy junkies that have spiritual drawings and aliens on walls

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šŸ˜­šŸ™

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Btw to get S i had to check what the hell was the evidence and there were the drugs on that room with drawings

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With spacial stuff

severe oak
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is hide and seek the last map

covert aurora
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For the base game yes

true panther
lone cloud
tired jungle
true panther
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I guess if you take the time to by wedging off the staircases as you pass and going across each floor for the other staircase is possible but it feels really time consuming, especially considering that realistically you'd have people behind you taking up each floor to secure. At least now that I've cleared it in S-rank I no longer feel the need to be that thorough, if I reach the end and I haven't brought order to chaos I just quit and move on

cunning fulcrum
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When you checked all rooms, go backwards through the rooms again

haughty roost
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I subscribed/downloaded some mods but they don't seem to be in the game. How can I fix this?

drifting fog
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what am i supposed to do whenever the hvt on hospital looks at me through the glass and shoots a hostage

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cause like i cant kill the hvt if i want an s but i also cant just let him kill the dude

keen gyro
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What did the last big update bring, because i dont see any change

frail pier
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3 maps, UE5, 3 guns

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3+3=6
Three 6's = 666
This update was the devil, UE5 is hell.

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I should probably go to bed

dark tartan
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dont

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i just woke up

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lets run it

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rip

orchid imp
frail pier
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Dorms, Lawmaker, Narcos

orchid imp
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Oh the dlc update

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Nah ur absolutely right on this one

feral torrent
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Is there already more known about the RoN survey? Have the dev's said anything since the results?

tacit gull
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Not yet

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We're still waiting on the Q&A aswell i think

wise beacon
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Hi !
can you heal yourself on a solo mission?

broken remnant
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Just got RoN yesterday.

hybrid girder
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Guys, Is there any clue about use Xbox controller to play ?

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Also, any news about more type of multiplayer? Like barricade suspect in swat4 or VIP?

wintry barn
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I didnt get S on relapse because an officer died

tacit gull
wintry barn
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Its unreal that i get 2 shots and both arms get dark red

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How can i do an S with that low HP

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Is there a guide or something?

tired jungle
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You just

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Do it

jolly verge
urban walrus
tacit gull
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They are? Can i get a link?

tacit gull
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cheers

amber dock
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They didn’t bother announcing the answers lol

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Gotta love VOID

undone mica
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any mod to make the game more exciting?

hot copper
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ron

soft narwhal
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lol

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kinda disappointed

amber dock
soft narwhal
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the ama kinda just confirms

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pvp not coming

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i wonder why they wont just straight up say theyre not going to do it anymore after their 2020 fiasco

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Have been play Ready or Not for few months now and I love what you guys have created here. My only concern is that performance has worsened a lot in recent updates. When can we expect performance fixes?
Stirling Rank: our team has already dedicated a large amount of time improving performance and pushing the bar where possible. However, 1.0 is not the end of development and optimization, we’re actively working on improving it every single day.

At some stage though, it may be worth looking at your hardware. Ready or Not can be pretty demanding.
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kinda a horrible way to start the AMA

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passing part of the blame to users on their hardware lol

lost inlet
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boid just keep on catching Ls

tacit gull
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Ready or Not's broken lighting is very demanding smidog

real bison
soft narwhal
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. We took inspiration from the dense environmental storytelling in Left 4 Dead and Bioshock as well, which was a critical solution for storytelling in a game with so many avenues of approach in level design.

This would make a lot more sense if there was a story to tell with RON, not a very half-baked story that takes a complete backseat.

soft narwhal
tacit gull
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L4D2's wall writings and other storytelling kind of focused more on worldbuilding rather than a cohesive story

soft narwhal
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only thanks to UE5's PSO pre-caching

tacit gull
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Showed how there were other people out there living their own dramas

real bison
soft narwhal
tacit gull
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Oh yeah i defiently didn't want to say that RON does that or that it does it well

soft narwhal
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If they are trying to tell a story or build something like this, I feel like they 100% should've gone the traditional campaign route, rather than this "commander" mode

tacit gull
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All commander manages to do is give the campaign a complete fence-sit approach, where it can't tell a good story and it can't have good gameplay at the sacrifice of story

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And the Q&A pretty much confirms that commander is here to stay

covert aurora
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I mean, i will be honest. I do wish there were in between cutscenes aswell as begining and ending. You could do storytell through both cutscenes and level design. Just my 2cents on it

peak elk
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So, anyone completed the Hidden and Dangerous achievment? I got a Rank S on a run and did not get the achievment. Only one of my friends.

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We also made another run prioritizing Arresting all Civilians before arresting/killing the suspects. If we encountered them, we made them give up, secure evidence and focus 100% on arresting civilians first. No achievment as well.

peak elk
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On Lawmaker, last DLC mission, Arrest all Civilians without neutralizing any suspect.

shy tulip
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There are some issues with the host and/or specific players getting it, I can only recommend trying as the host

peak elk
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First when we went for the S run, I got S as host, and only one of my 3 friends got it. We just went through the mission.
Secondly we all did the civi arresting, 2 of us died, and the other 2 finished it. No achievment

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For any of us.

edgy linden
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CONTENT

prime wing
opal basin
opal basin
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If void added more moments where judge talks to the team or to TOC that aren’t generic voice lines the game would be so much better

covert aurora
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I can get behind this

amber dock
umbral oar
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20 bullets. 20 suspects.

covert aurora
covert aurora
amber dock
covert aurora
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Move, shoot, commuincate

wintry barn
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Im on my 2481946th game trying to get relapse on S and i realized that the terrors can kill themselves???

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They point the gun at themselves

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When they get caught sometimes

covert aurora
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If their moral is low enough yes

wintry barn
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Wdym

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How does the moral work on this game with the enemies??

covert aurora
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The more suspects are detained/killed, suspects start becoming stressed, which in turn lowers their moral.

wintry barn
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Relapse makes me givr up. The hardest map on the game

amber dock
wintry barn
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I dont like multiplayer

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High ping for no reason, disconnections from host and people go crazy, i prefer single player going my rythm

amber dock
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Because you play on random servers

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That's like a given with random servers

wintry barn
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What should i do then?

shy tulip
shy tulip
amber dock
covert aurora
wintry barn
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i saw that one of the players had a different voice and a balaclava

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are both mods?

amber dock
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Could be but likley they just changed stuff in the lockers

wintry barn
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wdym

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in customization?

amber dock
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vanilla ron has a set number of people you can swap to that have diff voice lines

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Balaclava wise is very difficult to know if they are modded unless it has like drawings on it etc

wintry barn
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it was a voice i never heard before on NPC squad teamates

amber dock
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There are like 10 diff characters

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You have 4 on your team

wintry barn
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The balaclava was black, no drawings

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like a simple one

amber dock
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Then it probs was vanilla one

wintry barn
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wow

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how can i get it???

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nah, the voicelines he had when he was arresting was like a very masculine and loud, it didnt sound like vanilla

amber dock
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In multiplayer go to lockers and swap to any of the ECho characters

amber dock
wintry barn
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?

amber dock
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All males sound masculine no?

shy tulip
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Only in COOP can you customize your characters head (including balaclava) and voice

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That is not something they could mod on their side and have you see, so they have to be using vanilla unless you are using mods as well.

wintry barn
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wow

amber dock
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I'm pretty sure they know that cause they saw it in MP

wintry barn
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A deeper, more imposing voice, I was surprised when I heard it, I have played so many times and so many solo missions, that I don't think that voice is vanilla because I had never heard it before.

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Maybe its an MP thing?

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but the locker isnt the customization part?? or they are 2 diff things?

amber dock
wintry barn
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Ohhh hell no bro im seeing a lot of new shit. A lot lot of characters and diff voices

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Now im starting to understand so many things hahahahahaha

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Sorry i never played MP

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Omfg so many characters

covert aurora
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Theres aquite abit more customization in mp then in cmder mode

wintry barn
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Its Atlas!

wintry barn
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Dude that voice is lit that was the onešŸ”„šŸ”„

amber dock
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Facts

wintry barn
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Yooooo there is a preset with balaclava

covert aurora
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Yes

grave crown
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i can't change death voice for some reason. do u know why?

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i changed the ogg files but it doesn't work

severe oak
wintry barn
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No

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Forget it

severe oak
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the dlc

wintry barn
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No, what?

severe oak
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nvm

wintry barn
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Yea better šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚

#

I was confused but now i know how everything works

umbral oar
#

does nvidia reflex work on this game

jolly verge
#

Yes, but you need edit config file, enabling it in game wont do anything

umbral oar
#

oh my lord thank you so much

#

i put 3 on reflexmode right

jolly verge
#

Keep in mind that it's will reset to 0 every time you apply any setting in game

umbral oar
#

so that still happens

umbral oar
#

imo high input lag is more unplayable than low fps

faint wraith
#

question. In ironman mode, does an officer resigning count as losing them in game?

covert aurora
#

yes

lost inlet
#

still, they're gone gone and not coming back. Until RNG rolls and spawns a clone of them then prolly

frail pier
#

Damn playing 2022 RoN in 2024 is something else

tacit gull
#

šŸ˜”

dawn laurel
#

Twisted nerve is the hardest mission ngl

tacit gull
tired jungle
severe oak
#

What is the soft objective on dorms?

dawn laurel
#

Is it not?

tacit gull
#

It's not even one of the hard missions

dawn laurel
#

The other missions are easy af

lost inlet
#

it's one of the best cause the suspect actually behaves like they suppose to for the most part

dawn laurel
#

It feels like the suspect AI is broken compared to other missions

#

I got used to it

frail pier
lost inlet
stone bay
#

i remember back when 1.0 dropped i almost finished twisted nerve only to be aimbot wallbanged through 2 walls

#

1.0 ai then was something else

umbral oar
dapper arch
lone cloud
lost inlet
lone cloud
#

well easiest is gas station ofc, but we run crack house whenever we want to chill and shoot crackheads smidog

lost inlet
#

fair

rich quartz
#

Alright so for anyone that’s attempted the ā€œway out westā€ achievement what can you not use? Equipment wise and what should you kit your guys out with equipment wise

amber dock
#

Your Ai squad can use whatever

amber dock
lost inlet
#

Even NVG?

tired jungle
#

You don't need nvg for cyote

rich quartz
amber dock
#

Regarding flash bangs, your Ai squad can use anything yes

topaz linden
#

Any reccs for a gun that doesn’t hit as hard as SA58 but enough to make down enemies, also something that doesn’t have too slow shooting speed and pretty good recoil, IE I’m looking for a gun to do the elephant on

topaz linden
# amber dock LVAR

Tysm, I also read that out of the corner of my eye and I originally thought you were calling me a liar lol

amber dock
#

lol my bad

topaz linden
#

Nah that’s on me lol

amber dock
#

I can see the similarity

deep dune
#

Just got around to finishing the ironman run, man Hide and Seek is looooong

#

can't imagine how tedious finishing that non-lethally will be

#

very pretty map, but the squad movement in it was a little jank

amber dock
tired jungle
#

Idk why but the combat grip just makes the F90 a laser even on full auto

#

You don't even need to run a brake

deep dune
#

ARN-180 is my personal favorite after the SA58

#

works great as a mid-range rifle and is super accurate

#

the F90 is decent too, 30 round mag is nice

#

I've found the recoil on it to be egregious but I've never tried it with combat grip

tired jungle
#

It's a very solid gun

#

I don't really run rifles on full auto ever tho

deep dune
#

full auto is a panic button

#

great if you are backed into a corner with no health and someone running towards you

#

not so much otherwise

#

also nice Rebecca pfp
(It's like the second one I've seen ever, but still)

#

If you intend to run a rifle on full auto, I figure you'd just bring a P90 at that point

#

every rifle in this game feels like a marksman rifle besides maybe the 5.56 ones

tired jungle
#

I find myself gravitating a lot towards the G36 because of the SRO

#

Also i do like to run the comp M5 on the scar because the position is far back and you get great visibility

deep dune
#

I love guns with minimal profiles, only reason I tolerate the SA58 taking up so much of the screen is for the punch it has

tired jungle
#

For the dark maps the sights don't really matter for me as i prefer to run nvgs and aim with just an ir laser

deep dune
#

Laser Dot / IR is essential for playing with shield

#

makes aiming with the pistol actually possible past 5 meters

#

it's very nice

tired jungle
#

I never play shields

#

Fuck em

deep dune
#

Shields are essential when you don't already know the map

#

for me, at least

tired jungle
#

Ahhhhh idk about that

#

You know, the mirror gun can be used for a lot more than just doors

deep dune
#

I've played prob 50/50 multi and single-player, I usually just let others deal with the optiwand (though I do like that one too)

#

yeah you can use it to peek corners and ledges, it's great

tired jungle
#

You can use it to look over cars, fences etc or check what's behind a corner

#

It's really good for narcos for example

deep dune
#

remind me which one narcos was, the mexican tunnel one?

tired jungle
deep dune
#

ah, haven't touched the DLC, is it just a lot of cars?

tired jungle
#

Narcos is a map where you have to clear out a whole neighborhood and houses

#

There is a lot of open areas without proper cover

deep dune
#

sounds like LSPS

tired jungle
#

But the thing is, there is plenty of places for suspects to catch you off guard

#

Especially when you are like me and you run an enemy ai mod which makes them more difficult and increases the amount of suspects by a lot

deep dune
#

I do like the idea of a better AI mod but I can't think of much the mod could do that would make it more interesting without making it more excruciating

#

it does currently feel like the suspects are just kinda dotted around the map and stand still until you breach their room, I wish they had a bit more agency to actually wander around and try to flank

tired jungle
#

The ai mod i use does exactly that

deep dune
#

though maybe I've just never seen that since I always bring like 6 door wedges

tired jungle
#

They will be really aggressive when you are aware of you

#

And they absolutely will flank you

#

If you get hit and start bleeding it's never completely safe to go back to cover and patch yourself up

#

Where as in the vanilla game the suspect ai kinda just...lets you stay in peace

deep dune
#

yeah I've noticed that

#

oh you've been critically injured and will bleed out in 5 seconds?

#

just like, alt-s and lay down for a few seconds

#

they'll forget about you

#

also the leaning system in this game is very exploitable against the AI, their reaction time is questionable

#

I do like the system, it means you can shoot under truck trailers and stuff, but it still is a bit jank

tired jungle
unreal goblet
#

the gasmask filter on the default gasmask is on the wrong side

keen cradle
#

how can i unban someone that got automatically banned for tk?

stable kernel
#

For whoever is hosting the lobby: close the game, and disable steam cloud save temporarily. Go to C:\Users\Username\AppData\Local\ReadyOrNot\Saved\Config\Windows and go into game.ini and remove any mention of a ban list (not sure what it is called in the file exactly) or just delete the file entirely

wintry barn
#

On steam they are talking about a DLC on december

#

Anyone knows something?

wintry barn
unreal goblet
#

the filter is on the wrong side

wintry barn
#

Some gas masks, glasses and helmets tresspass each other

wintry barn
unreal goblet
#

the filter would go into the stock

#

it should be on the left side

wintry barn
#

Also the t shirt of my pfp (the blue with pink flowers) bugs when you go without protection vest

#

When you equip vest is ok

frail pier
#

Anyone else downpatch?

#

On older builds do suspects in some ways feel better than current version or is it just me.

stone bay
#

whats the criteria needed for an A+ for valley of the dolls? havent played in a year and i forgot everything

#

am i allowed to make suspects do the sleep

shy tulip
shy tulip
# frail pier Anyone else downpatch?

I've seen most people do it for that stutter bug, but a few claim the AI is better yeah. I find it hard to believe, depends on the build. The AI were a lot more one note in past builds and sometimes under/overtuned

stone bay
frail pier
shy tulip
#

I wanted to but SteamDB hurt my head having to go through depots and never worked when I tried

#

I think people severely underestimate how much the AI have improved.

stone bay
#

in the year i havent played, glad to see they arent aimbots anymore

frail pier
#

Yeah that's why I said some parts of suspects. Not every aspect of them.

covert aurora
#

John wick one shot ai

stone bay
#

also the little p320 converted thing is fun to use

covert aurora
#

The raider?

stone bay
covert aurora
#

Fun times

stone bay
#

(i wasnt going to get a good score anyways my whole squad got wiped in the first 30 seconds)

frail pier
covert aurora
#

Like have less hp?

frail pier
#

Bullets don't feel scary enough

wanton trout
#

sorry i know this must be a really stupid question, but in commander mode, how do you tell ur guys to specifically use their long range tactical flash or stinger rather than tossing smth right at the entryway?

#

never mind i'm dumb -__- it's clear with launcher i assume

unreal goblet
#

remember after 1.0 performance was awful compared to before release

#

for some reason now if you do a bad killing you just get insta deathed

#

really nice to careful go through a run, shoot one person slightly after they've surrendered and just get insta killed

tired jungle
frail pier
#

I just borked my save file doing this. Lost all my PB times and unlocked cosmetics 😦 @stable kernel Can you cook me up one....

#

idk where I placed my backup lol

jolly verge
lost inlet
opal basin
#

Does Ron run on Linux

#

I have a friend who uses Linux that I’d like to play with

tired jungle
tacit gull
tired jungle
#

May or may not need proton

tacit gull
#

Oh yeah probably not natively

fathom ibex
#

new dlc

stone bay
lost inlet
tribal ibex
#

without proton or wine like Indigo said

formal flame
#

Aight, so Imma level with the devs here

#

Since DLC 2 is gonna have an Oil Rig mission

#

Im gonna be fucking livid if we dont get Seal Team 8 VBSS gear for S Ranking that mission

lost inlet
frail pier
#

Hopefully next one goes back to that?

formal flame
#

I'm hoping it's a Lil bit of both tbh

#

Would be a missed opportunity to not add VBSS kit for the oil rig

#

After all, why would you send a municipal police SWAT team to deal with something that normally takes a much larger team of people

#

Speaking of... It would be cool if the oil rig was a 10 man mission, or more.

tacit gull
native rune
#

Someone’s gonna be livid then

tawny scroll
#

šŸ˜” why tf are there different mc shades

wintry barn
#

Guys

#

Im doing ironman run, if some agents just leave because of the stress, it counts as loosing an operator?

#

Its for the achievement

#

Or he has to die to loose the achievement?

lone cloud
# tribal ibex Steam Deck has a heavily modified version of linux, it won't run on native distr...

not really, it just uses arch then runs steam in big picture mode (you always have to run games through wine or proton, more often than not even if there is a native linux version the windows version thru proton works better anyway tbh (many games have save compatibility issues and such between winblows and linux versions)). any distro you can install steam onto will run the game more or less the same (so long as it has up to date gpu drivers, etc. and depending on your hardware ofc)

merry dragon
#

yo i need yalls help, i download the Gunfighter mod and now im getting corrupt data found errors???

zinc pagoda
#

is there any way to quick restart?

spring bridge
#

is it js me or is valley of the dolls so hard to complete

#

there is always that one guard that kills you in 2 shots

frail pier
#

When the test level for neon got released did the untextured version get changed any further or remain the same until the final version came out?

tribal ibex
# lone cloud not really, it just uses arch then runs steam in big picture mode (you always ha...

The Steam Deck handheld gaming device runs SteamOS, a customized version of Arch Linux:
SteamOS
A GUI wrapper that's optimized for handheld gaming. SteamOS includes Proton, a compatibility layer that allows users to run Windows games without developers needing to port them.
Arch Linux
The operating system that SteamOS is based on. Arch Linux uses a rolling update approach for all parts of the system.
KDE Plasma
A popular Linux desktop interface that comes pre-installed on the Steam Deck

#

google

lone cloud
#

it is not "heavily modified"

tribal ibex
#

IIRC they worked with a lot of anti cheat developers so their games would work on the steam deck

#

even if they don't work on Arch Linux with wine/proton by default

lone cloud
#

the stuff they did was for linux as a whole

tribal ibex
#

Oh cool I didn't know that

#

thought it was custom for SteamOS

lone cloud
#

steamos just adds some specific stuff for the steamdeck hardware and thats it

#

you could throw any other linux distro on a deck and run steam in desktop mode the same

#

youd just lose the special big picture mode it has

#

thats the fun and cool part of FOSS

#

when someone innovates everyone benefits

tacit gull
frail pier
frail pier
tacit gull
#

My memories are incredibly hazy, but i'm 100% sure club got atleast one touchup between updates in ea

frail pier
#

I have the build before it got released fully (I think) so I guess I'm gonna have to get my hands on the very first build when it got dropped.

tacit gull
#

Are you looking for something?

frail pier
#

Sorta

#

Mainly any and all iterations of Neon for something I'm working on.

tacit gull
#

Early club definetly was no looker

#

Club came out with the February update

#

So if that's the one you have then that's the earliest

frail pier
#

Yeah the one I have from an April 1st is untextured and shows off a layout that's quite different. I just didn't know if they changed it throughout the other patches.

tacit gull
#

Wish we could get our hands on legacy club too

frail pier
#

Was that dev only?

tacit gull
#

It shows up in the early trailers

#

Club Geos i think it was called originally

#

The lighting was very blue, much like nighttime farm

frail pier
#

Yeah if it's not on a build at all then I won't be able to see it

#

Unless Kaminsky can slide me some a**l staircase peeks (pics or clips) for what I need

prime wing
#

at least the cut out

frail pier
tacit gull
wintry barn
tacit gull
#

I dunno if it was on the old spcoop

wintry barn
#

But thats impossible, at one point some agents will leave

frail pier
#

It's not that bad

lone cloud
wintry barn
#

Lol

lone cloud
#

you do like 3-4 maps, then do gas no lethal, then go back to doing whatever

wintry barn
#

But you can change them, and you will not loose achievement and watch progress right?

lone cloud
#

idk i didnt change any when i did mine

wintry barn
#

I only need fucking relapse on S to get full S run but its unbeatable

stone bay
#

for multiplayer are all maps open to use

frail pier
lone cloud
frail pier
wintry barn
#

I tried iron man rn just for curious

wintry barn
stone bay
frail pier
# wintry barn How did you get S in relapse solo?

Beanbag, flash launcher, flash nades,or you can run mass gas everywhere (but its slow). There's no locked doors on relapse so breach is pretty useless. Flash launcher you can run at them, direct impact and a lot of times get 2 - 3 dudes off one shot with it depending on the room/how close they are.

wintry barn
#

I use full gas build

#

With pepper AR on all mates

#

I dont know exactly how to treat with enemies

#

I stun them i shoot them idk if they will surrender or not

frail pier
#

It be like that sometimes. The perks help too. I had 2 negotiators near the end of mine.

wintry barn
#

Teamates dont use the flash launcher??

#

I never saw them use it

frail pier
#

You can command them

wintry barn
#

Lol how

#

I only know to command them flash and clear, gas and clear etc

frail pier
#

Generally I give them shields though. If I want them to flash its usually with the nades.

stone bay
#

see my guys just shoot bad guys

wintry barn
#

But if they go with shield they probably gonna miss kill

frail pier
#

Not 100% on it. I don't have a whole lot of mileage with AI swat. Just enough to now get the watch TWICE šŸ’€

wintry barn
#

Are there any non lethal pistols?

frail pier
#

Just taser

#

But it can't be used with shield

wintry barn
#

Uhhh so what should i do then

#

I tried the double shield but they finally kill some suspect

frail pier
#

Take away side arm ammo

#

If you're going for S take away ALL bullets for pistol

wintry barn
#

Ok

#

I have 2 spaces

#

I will put flashes

#

Everyone can run 7 flashes omfg

#

Thats sick šŸ˜‚

#

Ohh you mean without pistol ammo they cant kill

#

Nice i didnt thinked it

frail pier
#

They'll charge at suspects but that's why you follow in. Just use blue for all your breaches in command. Red will follow behind you ect. If you're gonna run flashes be careful. You get friendly fire if your shots are too close. With AI I let them flash and I run gas. If you're solo then flash all you want

wintry barn
#

Im commander solo

#

So no worries

frail pier
#

So you're telling them to wait at spawn?

wintry barn
#

I did that and i died

#

Sometimes AI is more useful than it looks

#

I have non lethal on all of them so thats why idc bringing them with me inside

frail pier
#

Keep an eye on them though sometimes they like to over extend. Just command them to fall in if they stray too far from you.

#

I generally let red do all the evidence and securing

wintry barn
#

Yea

#

When i have too much evidence i tell gold to do everything

#

While i defuse or anything else

#

I carry 7 flashes, plus the flash launcher how many i will carry?

#

How much does the launcher have

frail pier
wintry barn
#

Cool

wintry barn
#

The shield is suposed to tank more but one of my officers died, i have no fucking idea why or how, the enemy didnt surrender, shield is useless when they didnt have it, the AI was better

#

I swear to god i will do relapse on S even is its the last thing i do on earth

brazen wolf
#

In singleplayer quick play, do you automatically have all levels unlocked?

wintry barn
#

Yes

#

If you have everything on comander you will have everything on the rest of modes and viceversa

rough dune
brazen wolf
#

Even if you haven't unlocked them all in commander mode?

brazen wolf
frail pier
wintry barn
#

They are connected

wintry barn
wintry barn
#

Omg

#

I DID IT

#

YESSSSS

#

BRO I WANT TO PUKE

#

After countless antempts

cursive minnow
cosmic meteor
#

The fact I just watched a video on the elephant mission (Community college) and the sickness and suffering I felt… without even having played the mission yet. Credits to Void for the story telling

dapper arch
cosmic meteor
dapper arch
cosmic meteor
dapper arch
dapper arch
wintry barn
#

Dude developers are mental šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚

#

I mean, its very bizzarre

cosmic meteor
wintry barn
#

Lmao

waxen eagle
#

Should I expect this game to go on sale for black friday?

shy tulip
#

You can go on SteamDB and compare it to last year, RoN follows regular sale periods

wise wadi
#

Hey, do NPCs close doors?

covert aurora
#

They mainly open them

umbral oar
#

mainly

worthy agate
#

i really like how some of the maps have moral complexity, where if you go in guns blazing you kinda feel bad afterwards

#

my main examples being dorms or the one where the kids are modding weapons to pay for their mom's medical bills

#

honestly id love to see more maps like that

tawny scroll
#

is there a compilation of ai teammate voice lines
i was just playing on sins of the father and one of em said ā€œhey you get to wear handcuffs thats pretty cool šŸ˜€ā€ then the suspect was like ā€œF U C C >0<ā€œ

worthy agate
#

dont get me wrong, i love giving scumbags like voll whats coming to them, but thought provoking maps are something id like to see more of

keen crystal
#

what am i missing..trying to get A+ for twisted nerve. got all objectives..no penalties..still only gettin A

covert aurora
#

You arrested two suspects, got the meth labs and the money on the 2nd floor of the left hand house

#

Reportimg suspects as you go

smoky mason
#

Hello, my friends lost all their progress in game and had their settings , does anyone have an idea why this happen? and how that can get it back?

covert aurora
#

@stable kernel you probably know the answer to this

stable kernel
#

Unless a manual backup was made, no

#

It can happen due to old saves not being compatible or choosing the clean mods/saves option, or just randomly after a crash or alt f4 while saving

keen crystal
covert aurora
#

Weird...

keen crystal
#

Irritating is a better word lol šŸ˜†

covert aurora
#

True lmao

dapper arch
umbral oar
#

almost did hospital no damage but the last guy lit me up

tired jungle
#

Hella difficult to do without a very happy trigger finger

cobalt isle
#

Is there a way to skip the count downs in single player, or a way to enter missions faster? Also a way to save loads in game?

wintry barn
tired jungle
tiny mountain
keen crystal
tacit gull
#

They do not, the beanbag shotgun only kills if you hit people in the head

hexed leaf
#

yeah beanbags are actually meant for the balls

forest lichen
#

tase their balls

keen crystal
#

I defo knocked someone unconscious with a chest shot

hexed leaf
#

get some spicy action with the spicy juice

keen crystal
#

Maybe they were too close

tiny mountain
forest lichen
#

usually at max

#

well i did lose one officer

hexed leaf
#

maybe you loaded the shotgun with actual buckshot

tiny mountain
forest lichen
#

ah

#

well i was playing valley

tiny mountain
#

any officer death in singleplayer will remove a lot of points

forest lichen
#

(still hate that map)

keen crystal
#

Took me 2 hours to do it flawless. So I was less than amused to not get the A+. First time I used unlawful force when I accidently shot a perp in the shoulder that was surrendering. Second time I accidently hit my own guy. Third and forth I got killed

tiny mountain
keen crystal
#

If I unlock all the unlock cosmetics on single player do I get them for multiplayer.

tacit gull
forest lichen
#

then what's the requirements for A

keen crystal
# tiny mountain What's your usual go-to strategy?

Usually I'm last man in the door. So I set up the breach,flash and clears with the other guys. If anyone's hurt or stressed I tend to have them hang back and cover our asses. Depends on the situation. If I can room clear with 3 I leave the stressed or injured guys holding a perimeter. If it's big we all go.

tacit gull
#

It's up to the score, A is just if you arrest enough suspects to meet the score thershhold

forest lichen
#

not incapacitated?

tacit gull
#

No, incaps are just deaths

tiny mountain
keen crystal
forest lichen
#

oh

tiny mountain
keen crystal
#

I'm defo missing something

tacit gull
keen crystal
#

No breaches in ROE.
All objectives fully competed. Still not getting the +

forest lichen
#

guess we flashbanging everyone

tiny mountain
#

Even with hard enemy, I can still arrest them

tacit gull
#

Outside of stunning them with grenades or other LTL they will almost never surrender regardless of map

forest lichen
#

they should change that honestly

#

especially with the lesser trained ones

keen crystal
#

Usually if u flash and breach..along as they been dazed they surrender. But if someone was out of the flash zone they come in shooting which earns them a bullet

forest lichen
#

or even having multiple officers yell at a suspect

tiny mountain
# forest lichen guess we flashbanging everyone

There is always an easy way, usually used to get S but in your way it works for A+ as well

  • change every officer to heavy armour + balistic mask
  • give yourself full ceramic armour + gas mask
  • load everyone and yourself with CS gas

Use CS gas on any room you suspect an enemy, once you hear coughing, push in

forest lichen
#

also how effective are 9 bangers compared to flashes/stingers

tacit gull
tiny mountain
forest lichen
tacit gull
#

9bangers are a legacy grenade, so chances are it doesn't work properly

keen crystal
#

I might try the gas again. I thought it would be excessive force to use it on civvies

tiny mountain
tacit gull
#

Because that's what you want to do, get close to the suspect that can pull out a knife and stab you

forest lichen
tacit gull
tacit gull
#

Getting closer increases your morale damage

tiny mountain
forest lichen
keen crystal
#

What's the benefit of wearing ceramics over steel plates cuz I don't care about moving slower

forest lichen
#

do the civs just get scared when a fully kitted out guy with a military grade rifle comes close to him

tacit gull
forest lichen
keen crystal
forest lichen
#

i think?

tiny mountain
tacit gull
forest lichen
forest lichen
tiny mountain
forest lichen
tacit gull
#

not if they hesitate

#

(in which case you either stun them before they stop the animation or they will always shoot)

forest lichen
#

is there a way to increase hesitation chance

tacit gull
tiny mountain
#

you can peek+push doors with your body, that doesn't make sound
opening doors make sound

forest lichen
#

i thought being loud and fast would make them get surprised and hesitate

tacit gull
#

nope

tiny mountain
tacit gull
#

being fast is basically pointless on the AI because of the morale thresholds

keen crystal
#

I don't care about moving slower. I'm a fat guy in real life and when I play airsoft I move slow. So i slapped on metal plates in RON to closer imitate my real speed. So take speed out the equation..ceramics or steel for protection?

tiny mountain
tacit gull
#

Either you knock them down with c2 or there's no point

tacit gull
#

grenades or taser is all you get

forest lichen
#

is steel armor broken again

tiny mountain
forest lichen
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i saw it on the stats bible

tacit gull
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I don't think it ever got fixed

forest lichen
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awesom

tacit gull
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But ceramics will still let you tank more shots overall due to it being 100% protection

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Even if it is broken on a certain number of shots

forest lichen
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or just run kevlar

which in that case just run no armor smidog

keen crystal
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Is it this game that has stab vests and vests u can't carry pouches on or is that ground branch

tacit gull
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It does have a stab vest that doesn't work

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It does allow you to carry 2 more things though

keen crystal
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What's the point in a stab vest ..when u get shot at every mission

tacit gull
hexed leaf
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patrol officer play pretend ig

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which, why then not also provide patrol officer uniforms

tacit gull
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I think patrol officers in america carry plate carriers aswell

hexed leaf
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yeah

tacit gull
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Or atleast kevlar, definetly not anti-stab vests

keen crystal
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I assumed American cops carried bullet proof vests

tiny mountain
tacit gull
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You really don't

keen crystal
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British cops wear stab vests but they don't really expect to get shot at

tacit gull
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It's about as fast as 1 plate of ceramic

hexed leaf
tiny mountain
keen crystal
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And if someone does have a gun we call armed response which is basically swat

tacit gull
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You get to travel 6 ft underground instantly

keen crystal
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Is there mods that are cosmetic..particularly more vests?

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They need to add custom patches. I wanna recreate my vest in game

hexed leaf
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something something risky patches, blahblahblah

tacit gull
keen crystal
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Are the official mods I can just add to the game I don't need to fuck with game folders and all that crap

hexed leaf
tacit gull
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The in-game mods menu doesnt work

hexed leaf
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installing mods for this game manually is incredibly easy

keen crystal
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I will need to have a look

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The game is solid. I wish I could play it in vr on the quest 3

tacit gull
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You can do it with UEVR

keen crystal
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What is uevr

tacit gull
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An injector that makes unreal engine games work in vr

cursive minnow
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Search it up and you should find a github by praydog for a download fair warning it's a bit of work to set up properly.

frail pier
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stab vest, kevlar, no armor same acceleration movement penalty. We all have the same overall movement speed regardless of what you run. Its just acceleration changes.

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Add sprinting but only to no armor users smidog

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Let me feel naked and free from restraint

jolly verge
daring ember
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i know that dlc is expected in the winter, but is there any further knowledge about a month?

tacit gull
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(if they get stuff done on time)

daring ember
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ty

winter pendant
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I wear the stab vest to have a no-armor challenge but still have more equip slots.

zinc pagoda
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hardest s rank map?

topaz linden
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How do I keep the captors from killing hostages in the elephant?

jolly verge
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Kill/arrest suspects before they kill civis, you have 2 min

storm garden
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Did the ama happen?

tacit gull
storm garden
tacit gull
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It's just writing on the forum, it wasn't announced anywhere anyway

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Most of the anwsers are pretty vague or dissapointing tbh

lavish reef
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i must dowbload all main files for gunfighter?

umbral oar
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and if you want all of them then yes

umbral oar
stone bay
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If the bombs in Fallout hit Los SueƱos it would probably remain exactly the same except with just a slight increase of radiation

zinc pagoda
zinc pagoda
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or gas

dapper arch
zinc pagoda
dapper arch
# topaz linden How do I keep the captors from killing hostages in the elephant?

Thats the neat part, you cant, once one saw you, you have two minutes, but you have to rush, i got an S on Elephant, and it was really hard to do, what i found useful tho, is going from the second option, entering the lab on the left, then running down the hallway until you get to the big classroom, and then go left to the library, with that route you have a chance of 2-3 suspects out of 4, in fact, on the library can be 1 suspect, and on the hallway next to it, a second one, but that level is mostly RNG

frail pier
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Bum rush 3, the 4th will generally push you.

dapper arch
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The library is on the second floor, i forgot to mention, the biggest chances seems to be those, 1 on the lab on first floor, and 2 on the library on second floor, sometimes can be 1 on the big classroom, the last one is the hardest, because he roams a lot and runs, you mostly catch him only of luck, he is have more chances to kill a civilian too, but i saw that he is more common to catch on the opposite site once you raid the library, i mean, you stay on the second floor, and go back until you reach the stairs, he tend to be there

frail pier
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But that route you just said is usually gonna net the best results

dapper arch
frail pier
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Send civs to exit as you come by. Just don't waste time on one's that won't listen to the first command.

dapper arch
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Oh and forget about the KVS and CS, use Flashbangs, Stingers and the Shotgun, your teammate have to use the KVS tho, never the shotgun or they may kill the hostiles, but as i said earlier, half of them are wearing gas masks, so throwing a CS will not affect them, is mostly a thing of luck

topaz linden
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Any quick non lethal weapon ideas?

dapper arch
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KVS works mostly all the times, CS and Stingers are the betters, Flashbangs when the enemies are using Gas Masks

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Never give your teammates the shotgun, or else they will kill suspects with headshots

sacred dagger
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was valley of the dolls removed??? i dont see it anywhere for some reason

sacred dagger