👮ron-discussion

[chilly forum]

oh nevermind, weird. I don't own it on steam but got a confirmation on the home screen that said thanks for purchasing? weird but yeah I don't have the DLC

[near viper]

Why does your ai team love shooting civilians after the update

Single player has become borderline unplayable it’s so broken compared to before

[near viper]

One of the countless new broken things after the new update

[urban walrus]

Known bug

[lone cloud]

known bug doesnt affect anything other than giving you some sort of false hope about getting the dlc for free

[bitter mason]

car has a voice

https://twitter.com/Garn47/status/1822855846604198178

infact a car TOC mod would be pretty easy to make, since the voice is on a free TTS website....
Its just redoing all of the voice lines manually and putting them all together

[astral warren]

The most VOID bug I can think of. It just disappoints you.

[lone cloud]

[astral warren]

I have a hard time not believing that was a deliberate troll on someone's part somewhere, even if the entire team is not aware of the tomfoolery.

Also VOID pls explain to me very carefully why the carbine conversion kit is in the subgun section. It's literally semi automatic, and therefore, NOT a submachine gun.

I'm also patiently waiting for whenever we finally get new damage curves for my beloved 10mm MP5 and the SLR-47, so they might be worth using.

[urban walrus]

Gonna wait for that new game designer to finish their job

[astral warren]

Also has anyone else noticed with the most recent update breaking the damage cap, ceramic is straight up just better than steel, now?

Steels receives so much more damage now that it feels closer to kevlar than steel, at least ceramic STOPS damage until it breaks.

[jolly verge]

Ceramic also got buffed and now you take health damage only when ceramic is fully broken (0 durability left)

[astral warren]

This has always been the case.

Ceramic blocks 100% of damage until it breaks, and then it blocks 40% of the damage.

There are 3 separate plates, so it's possible one of yours was shattered, and you received 60% damage, while the intact one was struck later, resulting in no additional damage

[pure blaze]

Bruh why does the P90 quick reload animation just throw the magazine 50ft away. Its so goofylol

[astral warren]

polymer is light

[stone hearth]

holy shit greased palms REMOVE IIIITTT

[astral warren]

You're bad at the game because you can't see through a pinhole 50 meters away with perfect clarity like the A.I., git gud.

[stone hearth]

mb og i should have seen through the 90 boxes and beanbagged the guy with an ar

[astral warren]

Duh, ignoramus.

[stone hearth]

[astral warren]

nah for greased palms just use your swat AI as sacrificial bullet probes, kind of like police dogs, but human

Maybe some of them will die, but that's a sacrifice you're willing to make, I'm sure.

If you're playing with other real people, make them wear steel and use them as a human shield.

[stone hearth]

hear me out: airstrike the shitty ass postal office

[sly nest]

BuT tHe CiVilIaNs?!

[stone hearth]

HOW IS THIS MOTHERFUCKER STRAFING AND STILL BLOWING MY HEAD OFF

oh my god they actually gotta rework this doodoo ass map

[weak berry]

I have a question to the cosmetics you can unlock in ron. By some is a symbol in the corner with a number what does it mean?

[amber dock]

can you send a pic in #🎨ron-screenshots-and-art ?

[jolly verge]

Nope, before if you have some durability left you will get health damage from shot that break ceramic, now it's wont

[eager goblet]

Ty

Guys is there anyone bought the game and from netherlands what was the price I am from Turkiye I bought it for 20 dollars with a sale from 30$ my friend checked the game and it is 50 Euros

I don't know the wage so is it worth it? And is the game 30 euros if you are buying it with a game key

Is it safe?

[amber dock]

game keys is no no, just don't

[eager goblet]

Alright is there anyeay for him to buy the game cheaper

[stable kernel]

Wait for a sale

[stone hearth]

just died cuz u cant cancel ziptie animation

[cloud drum]

How do I make the paramedic dude heal my downed cop

[astral warren]

give him a Klondike bar

[stone hearth]

how do i give my character an iq test so he can cancel ziptie and shoot the mf actively killing him

[eager goblet]

Is there sales happening in netherlands?

Someone was saying the game will never be on sale and it has gone sale in Turkey %33

20$

[amber dock]

Sales are decided by Steam majority of the times. Ron usually always goes on sale on major holidays/seasons.

[eager goblet]

Nice

And they cant even use a gas launcher 😭

[amber dock]

Next major sale if im not
Mistaken is Autumn sale happening in like Late Oct to early Nov

[eager goblet]

Alright

[stable kernel]

Do not mention 3rd party sites. The legitamate ways to get the game are Steam and Greenman.

[stone hearth]

bro how in the actual hell am i getting killed by pistol calibers with full steel armor

[astral warren]

ok lol

greenman is legitimate
kek

Do they pay you or is it fun for you?

[amber dock]

Green man literally buys keys from the devs themselves?

[astral warren]

Oh, okay, so this server is ALSO an information bubble on that. I better not say anymore or else I might be banned for exposing their dubious partnership 💀

[lavish grove]

bro got beef lol

honestly though, the only store where you know you 100% arent gonna get ripped off, is steam itself. Any other store you're taking a slight risk

[amber dock]

Blud really be mad at Greenman for not selling him a game for cheaper then 1c sad times

[astral warren]

Greenman is the website I was trying to offer as an option earlier but wasn't allowed to, except they make it look a lot cleaner on the backend and on their taxes.

But you didn't hear that from me.

[lavish grove]

yeah I did

[amber dock]

What is Blud waffling about

[astral warren]

You can hear text? Seek help.

xd blud bro cooked??!?!?! zoom zoom!! zooom!!!

[lavish grove]

yeah I come up with funny voices for each character talking

[astral warren]

Take your lithium.

[lavish grove]

not again B)

[prime wing]

exposing what specifically?

[dense quest]

🍿

[spiral totem]

who trynna play RON?

[lone raven]

#🔎looking-for-players

[pastel parcel]

ngl i need help im kinda new to ron lol

[amber dock]

#🔎looking-for-players specify you are new and would like someone or some people to show you the ropes:D good luck

[cold cliff]

What is FISA gonna do with that ||human traffic||?

[amber dock]

risk the womens lives for the sake of their operation

[cold cliff]

I was wondering about that. Is there a clue to what their operation even is? I never looked too deep into the lore, just the basics

[bitter mason]

its not really clear

[amber dock]

not really mentioned besides the convon between Judge and FISA commander. But FISA is hinted towards being corrupt so could be something with that too

[cold cliff]

Corruption in Los Suenos seems pretty standard... Also the DLC is fun, but adds nothing to the story of the game then. Just a natural disaster and arresting people displaced by it, seems kinda mean

[deep rain]

Guys how the heck do I start one of the mod maps. I went to the mod menu, downloaded both updated versions of "Apartment of Horrors" and "Propaganda" and both show installed after downloading and restarting.... but when I go to "commander" or "quickplay" I only see the standard campaign maps + home invasion....

[bitter mason]

try installing them manually from nexus
I dont think mod.io installs them right

[vocal wharf]

where is the split button in the command menu

[lavish grove]

Alright, does ANYONE know if the planning songs actually play in game?

They were included in the OST but they're nowhere to be found in game (as far as I can see)

[cold cliff]

Like split the stack? It's one in the MMB context menu

[hot juniper]

they were pre 1.0

[lavish grove]

now, I wouldnt mind that, but some other Pre 1.0 songs are nowhere to be found either

[hot juniper]

ome of them played for a very brief time during loading after the swat vehicle animation

it was not possible to hear the whole piece

they were planning to add a planning -lol- section but later scrapped it with the implementation of the tablets, so the soundtracks gone unused

[hot juniper]

some of them are on youtube

[lavish grove]

Yeah, I just found it weird that they kept these planning songs in, but didnt add in other station songs/menu songs onto the OST

[hot juniper]

same

[lavish grove]

alsoo hope they add in some of the old maps

[hot juniper]

maybe the other old songs were too legacy and zack didnt wanted the planning songs to go to waste

[hot juniper]

like hotel?

[lavish grove]

yea

[hot juniper]

there is a pic of the pre 1.0 hotel in one of the detectives tables

[lavish grove]

i know some have been modded back in, but that means trying to find other players who also have installed the mods

[hot juniper]

yeah, and would love to see void adding those maps officially

other than hotel which maps were removed btw instead of being re-built

[lavish grove]

I think it was called cargo or something, which was changed into hide and seek. I'd kinda like to see that one come back, maybe as an alternate version or summin

also the predecessor to carriers of the vine which noone could complete

[lunar birch]

I just played the "Elephant" level, and had to make sure I magdumped each school shooter.

[robust spire]

Hi guys. I play Ready Or Not now. It runs on my Computer but it runs pretty choppy but it's fine.

The Home Invasion update might've fixed it.

[lavish grove]

I also play ready or not now

Its a good game

[vocal wharf]

i already fixed it ty tho

[robust spire]

Lol on second thought I don't even think I am Ready. It is so grainy I can't even really see anything and also it's so laggy it runs at like 15 FPS

[lavish grove]

Lol

[latent mist]

gng im in purgatory im tryna find the last civ on port hokan

[stoic vortex]

Grade A? in Port Hokan? impossible!

[latent mist]

naw im tryna go for S

i got A+ already vro but i was missing 30 pts bcuz the swat decided to friendly fire

now im just walking around searching for the search and secure option

[stoic vortex]

do u use light armour or heavy for port?

[latent mist]

light cuz it’s a big map and you gotta be fast

[latent mist]

finallly gng

[frail pier]

Light doesn't dictate movement speed or acceleration. What kind of plates you use and how many do.

Front and back ceramic on heavy is the same movement speed and acceleration penalty on light.

[stoic vortex]

I love how the people will scream "The cops are here"

They yell that to let the hostages know that help is on the way

[dapper wraith]

i kinda need help im new at ready or not and i just dont know how people get like face armor thingny or like gaz mask

[lone raven]

Loadout section

[eager goblet]

my officer is dead how do I revive him

I have the paramedic guy

bro

I have all team vks and they still manage to kill wtf

and got an A+ because of it and I dont even know how they do it are they using secondaries? but they dont use shields

[eager goblet]

OOOOOOOOOOOOOH he is not dead he will be revived 3 days later nice

[coral lava]

Officers will switch to secondaries once they emtpied their mag and are still in a gunfight

Just make sure that all of them reload their vks before engaging in a fight

[jade prism]

Hi has anyone got the Simple Blueprint Loader not to sure how to use it or it isnt working

[rotund kayak]

run in with a baton and just start smacking 'em

[dim cairn]

that joke was so good bro waited seven months to say it

[eager goblet]

oh ty I have found a better solution, now they have 7 mags of vks and no pistol ammution

[rotund kayak]

do the guns have Height over bore?

[amber dock]

Yes

[rotund kayak]

Cool

[spiral onyx]

Hi guys, I wanted to download the map which is presented in the last post but, when I launched it, the game froze on the screen with the timer at 00:01, do you know why or is it just my computer ?

[deep rain]

It takes 30-45min to generate the world data for that one map

Basically you just let it run and do something else then come back in an hour 😄

At least it only needs to do this once.

@spiral onyx

[spiral onyx]

Ohhh

I thought it was bugged, thank you very much, i will try it tonight

[merry elbow]

guys how to use attachment expansion mod in public servers?
i can use a weapon mod (heckler koch 416d) but i cant use the attachment expansion mod

[tacit gull]

you don't

[merry elbow]

wdym

[muted star]

Everybody needs to have it installed in order to work

[elfin dew]

anyone know how to open the panic room

[pearl shuttle]

You don’t

[latent mist]

didnt know that

[pastel parcel]

Am i stupid or are the mods not available for me to play within the game anymore? lol.

[amber dock]

If they are not updated 23rd of July or after they are incompatible with current Ron version

[pastel parcel]

so are all of them not updated ?

Not being funny because I've downloaded like 20.

[amber dock]

You have to look for yourself, look at the ‘last updated’ that will tell you. If 23rd or 24th of July and after it’s compatible with current version

[pastel parcel]

gotcha. thanks

and last thing will they eventually update them for us to access or is it just something that we have to do on our own?

[amber dock]

It’s up to the creator of the mods yes. So until they update their mods it’s broken

[latent mist]

i escaped purgatory but now i got sent to purgatory+ looking for the last civs on relapse vroooo

when will the darn search and secure option pop up

[loud raven]

does someone know of any ultrawide fix? i noticed the game just does -vertical instead of +horizontal, essentially zooming you in instead of extending the view horizontally

https://imgur.com/a/t5yT1zx here is what i mean

[bitter mason]

man suspects still see right through the fogged glass on neon tomb, they really need to fix that cause its terrible
also suspects prioritising the player over ai teammates is also really annoying lol

omg the collision on grenades is totally screwed also

throwing a stinger and it bounces off of thin air back towards me and the team

[lone raven]

Legit.

[bitter mason]

otherwise I actually really like neon tomb

but it suffers from the ron level design

[lone raven]

Schizo architects

[bitter mason]

also quadamah should not be required alive

its just silly you HAVE to arrest him

[tacit gull]

Wasn't the player being prioritised fixed? Or did i stop noticing it since i stopped commanding swat AI to do shit?

[lone raven]

Are there actual invisible walls? Priority to be fixed if so

[bitter mason]

might be

[tacit gull]

There are some really bad collision boxes on some walls or objects

[bitter mason]

not sure, dont remember reading about it. Unless its just suspects tunnel visioning to the last person they saw

[tacit gull]

Try the boxcars on importer

[bitter mason]

oh yeah random boxes on importer have weird collision boxes, you cant aim over them properly even though you should

[acoustic ridge]

no, its very apparent when playing zombies, they hard target the player when given the chance

they literally run past swat ai to get to you

[tacit gull]

It was definetly real, i remember it was fucking ridiculous on 1.0, AI would shoot through a crowd of swat just to kill you

[bitter mason]

I was in the bathhouse area, suspect on that upper floor area started shooting me through the windows, when he came running down the stairs, he ignored the group of my team which he would have saw first to get an angle on me

[jolly verge]

If you did not get watch one of your officer was resigned from duty, if you did not get both achievements for iron man you need replay port hokan for higher score

[frozen lintel]

gotcha just kinda wack it says 100% done and you cant track the missions with low grades when all my missions are S tier already and i did have 2 officers resigned from duty need to specify on the " In Game " part when in game to me means in the game not the police station but i guess that's just me

[eager goblet]

My friend didn't buy the home invasion dlc but it says thanks for purchasing it and I think we can actually play it

[bitter mason]

no its a bug

[astral warren]

day 118 of asking VOID to make separate damage curves for 7.62x39 and 10mm. also pls add 10mm pistol after the bullet is different from .45ACP

[umbral oar]

😊

[stoic elbow]

is it bad im stuck on ides of the march

[shy tulip]

Yes

[bitter mason]

not really, make use of door wedges to block all of the doors to the hall first and then take the rooms one by one, and watch out for traps

[stoic elbow]

1 suspect left, 1 door that gets me

[bitter mason]

gotta remember to check the doors

[frail pier]

Breach shotgun. Fuck whoevers on the other side.

Or shoot traps :/

[bitter mason]

unless they changed it suspects dont even get killed by their traps :p

[frail pier]

No they don't but it still does damage. Better than peeking a door and cutting a wire :p

[umbral oar]

i saw gerard stun himself with a trap one time easy arrest

[buoyant fern]

That performance patch is never coming is it? 😔

[frail pier]

[dense quest]

no but if you're still stuck, pick the elevator spawn point, have your red or blue team cover the hallway to the left, clear the washing machines room with your other team, exit and move down the other hallway and wedge the middle room and every apartment on your way until you get back to your first team

and start clearing from the first apartment which is 1201 or something if I'm not mistaken, clear middle room last

there are many ways to clear that map but I've found most success with that way even back in the days of cracked suspects

[stoic elbow]

ty

[latent mist]

IM GONNA FUCKING CRY IM ON ELEPHANT AND I WAS FUCKING LATE BY A COUPLE SECONDS SO THE SHOOTERS INCAPACITATE A CIV AND THEN I GOT A+ AND IF I WAS JUST FAST ENOUGH I COULDVE GOT S

[lone raven]

[bitter mason]

astral's ai adds visible body armour to the suspects on sin's of the father.... this is insane

[shy tulip]

you would've been put in the looney bin with the old active shooter mode

The RNG was straight up not in your hands

[fleet rain]

I was looking to get this game a while back and saw on reddit that the ai wasn't good. People were saying even if you snuck up behind a suspect they would still try to open fire instead of surrendering having no self preservation, is this still the case?

[bitter mason]

yep

try mods
astral's AI is the one im currently using

[umbral oar]

🤯

[dense quest]

istg the swat ai is pissing me off more and more by the day

spent 30 mins on port hokan looking for the last suspect and turns out one of the rooms I entered I left the ai to auto cuff everyone as they always do, but they for some reason didn't cuff a single guy

he didn't even have a gun and I was walking around the whole time ready to shoot

[acoustic ridge]

the ai isnt too great, you pretty much NEED traits or nonlethals to make them surrender reliably

[umbral oar]

If it was the guy that looks like batman he just doesn’t spawn with weapons 50% of the time

[fleet rain]

that seems like a huge problem for a swat game. are there mods that fix that?

they should immediately surrender after getting yelled at from behind imo.

[dense quest]

no it wasn't that guy

[fleet rain]

Before i buy the game i wanted to see if any good ai mods are available

[bitter mason]

Astral's AI does the job decently.
Suspect compliance is depending on the level. So the underprepared gas station robbers are more compliant than fully prepped terrorists and even have a chance to surrender without requiring stunning first.

[prime wing]

you could try the game first?

[dense quest]

If you want more compliance and realism (but way less shooting) try the SWAT 4 ai mod

[prime wing]

How would you use an ai mod if you dont know the base suspects behaviors

[dense quest]

There are missions that end without a single bullet needing to be shot

[silk junco]

lmaoo

[dense quest]

Realistic but on the boring side perhaps

[fleet rain]

eh i dont want to spend 50 bucks on a game with bad ai, if its as bad as im reading im not really interested but it does look like a lot of fun with somewhat realistic ai

[dense quest]

Luckily steam lets you refund before 2h playtime so you could try a couple missions maybe

[prime wing]

not only that, but, playing the first two hours under the refund window with a mod sounds just counter productive.

[fleet rain]

oh yeah always forget about that lol

[dense quest]

Yeah I didn't mean with a mod

[bitter mason]

can always do some runs with vanilla ai and if you dont like it, try mods

[dense quest]

Play the original ai during the refund window and see how it feels

[fleet rain]

Thanks for the help, ig theres no point not to try it during the refund window

[dense quest]

If you don't like vanilla ai you probably won't like with mods either

Frankly they don't change that much from my experience

I just finished a playthrough with astral's and there are definitely some improvements but overall feels pretty similar

[bitter mason]

theres a lot of things that can add up to the problems, grenades are your best bet to getting surrenders but often times the map designs are constantly working against you, or your grenades just dont work as intended
generally in the vanilla game its easy to get surrenders but only if you hit them with a grenade or less lethal. Catching them off guard or simply taking the chance and yelling at them will pretty much never get compliance

mods are quite limited on what they can improve. I find astral's to be a pretty big improvement tho, especially on earlier levels. One thing it does with the more aggressive suspects I've noticed, is lower the ammount of them overall. Which I think plays way better than the constant spam you can get in the base game

[dense quest]

Tbh even with astral there are too many suspects that don't give up after yelling for an hour

I end up using a flashbang on them

And I don't mean the active shooter maps

Civilians surrender way more at least except maps like narcos and carriers but it makes sense

I mean dorms not narcos

[bitter mason]

depends on the level from my experience. most levels with more prepped suspects will often put up a lot of a fight but I dont really go into a place expecting compliance right off the bat.

[acoustic ridge]

does amos's wife still throw hands? im looking for the fool achievement

[stable kernel]

So long as you don’t shout at her to surrender

Civvies on dorms do it as well

[bitter mason]

dorm civvies are super aggressive you should be able to get it easy

im surprised my squad havent been killed by them yet with how they just run up to them and start getting the snot beaten out of them

[jovial torrent]

Anyone else having issues with dlss and the newest nvidia driver?

[amber dock]

yes, nothing you can do besides turn off DLSS

[jovial torrent]

Know if void has contacted nvidia about it?

[amber dock]

that I don't know, since it's up to Nvidia to fix it there's not much VOID can do about it

[jovial torrent]

what a bummer lol first issues with the last driver in farming sim, and now issues in RON with the newest. Cant catch a break.

[amber dock]

Nvidia is a rollercoaster of a company

[jovial torrent]

a shame the "recent" last few years of drivers have been hit and miss

thanks for assuring me im not the one going crazy tho lol

[amber dock]

No problem, it's a issue for lots of people

[stone bay]

is there any soft evidence in ides of march

[amber dock]

oooooooooooo don't think so

All objs are stated to you on the tablet iirc so no soft OBJS

[stone bay]

ty

[shy tulip]

Wait till you find out about Intel

[amber dock]

we don't talk about them, they are doing their own shit

[river tide]

i think everybody knows that

[elfin basalt]

It would be cool if void interactive added a map to RON that was based on a scam call center.

[edgy smelt]

does anyone know a good way to beat the level elephant? ive been stuck on the finding bombs part

[amber dock]

do the bombs after bring order to chaos is crossed out, listen for a beep

[edgy smelt]

thats what i did but the time keeps running out and when i send the team to search for it they either find it but dont defuse or dont find it at all

[amber dock]

that's the issue don't use the Ai teammates. you have to find and defuse the bombs yourself, there's only 2

[edgy smelt]

ok.

[open igloo]

could you guys help me with a bug or is there a channel for that

[amber dock]

#🐜archived-bug-reports-channel

[stone bay]

whres all the soft objects in 23 mb a second

looking for the last one rn i got one in server room and computer

[stable kernel]

The bedside table in the steamer's room

[topaz sorrel]

do quick plays count towards high scores for cosmetic unlocks? i used the search function, couldn't find anything

i know they don't unlock the next mission for commander anymore

[stable kernel]

All modes work for cosmetic unlocks

[topaz sorrel]

👍 thanks

[stable kernel]

Although I do not know if a score which results in "unresolved" counts

[cobalt basin]

whats the 509 chambered in

i feel like its 10mm or something bigger cause it kicks a lot

guess not

[sterile linden]

ron

[mint falcon]

#🎨ron-screenshots-and-art message
what.

[true ocean]

so fun when an S run is going so good just to get 1 tapped

[urban tulip]

Yup

[mint falcon]

how is playing normally, as in taking lethal weapons and having the option to shoot to kill/incapacitate a suspect which has engaged you either previously or is showing intent, how is that WORSE than taking non lethal weapons, which offer the tedious singular-shot rifle, or a shotgun that has a 80/20 chance of killing your opponent? either that, or relying very, and I mean very on gas/stingers which sometimes just don't cover the entire room?

[true ocean]

bro took that shit personally

[mint falcon]

i'm sorry maybe i'm genuinely stupid or i've been dropped on my head as a child but i seriously don't understand, how is lethal worse than non-lethal?

[acoustic ridge]

less score

[mint falcon]

wdym less score you're playing for grade not score

[urban tulip]

Personally, I think there needs to be a rating which is based on properly applying force

[mint falcon]

i guess if somebody is playing for score it's still better to use non lethal as securing then gives 50 points? (iirc), better that than +5 for killing

[mint falcon]

yeah i would like to see something touched upon the use of force penalty, make it have more force over the player

[urban tulip]

I have spoken to the DEVS and I know they are considering it

[prime wing]

oh shoot

thought it was a fake chris

[mint falcon]

it's the chris

[urban tulip]

Nope, its the real one lol

[prime wing]

But yeah overall, I feel that people shouldnt care that much about the score. If you went in and didnt shoot suspects on sight outside of elephant, thats a good job on my view. Going in blazing and getting an A score isnt any better than an F score with not having killed civs yourself

[urban tulip]

Agreed

[quasi blade]

Reflex shooting a running civ because they were charging directly at you 💀

[prime wing]

theres more work to be done to praise good decisions, rather that good outcomes

the two arent always connected unfortunately

[mint falcon]

i guess you just have to keep your head on a swivel at all times and check your fire

[mint falcon]

yeah honestly it's funny seeing as i can just unload a whole stinger launcher on one dude and not get punished for it

[quasi blade]

I did, they ran up from behind while I was prepping a door, had no time to look for a weapon

[mint falcon]

honestly
press B

[quasi blade]

Yeah that never works lmao

[mint falcon]

like one guy just surrendering after a whole grenade with plastic balls fired at who knows how fast got fired at him

and i get full reward for that
does that make it feel fair? no

[prime wing]

you could get unauthorized use of force by shooting a suspect with pepperballs as he is holding a civ

which makes no sense

Im going out of my way not to kill

[quasi blade]

Yeah it's why I don't run pepperball

[prime wing]

and i get punished

[quasi blade]

You get constant use of force/FF deducts from it

[mint falcon]

one time i got that situation on dlc map, the mansion, either way a guy was taking a hostage, and i unironically did this

no penalty after shooting a civ

y'know, with a launcher.

[quasi blade]

Plus you have to hit a suspect at least like three times before they react to it

Unlike the 12G ouchie rounds that only take one c:

[prime wing]

and when police get ahold of the suspect they normally dont treat him nicely or offer tea. You will likely get put down on the floor and eat dirt in the process. Not necessarily excessive force, just a normal reaction after having held a gun to someones head

[mint falcon]

shotgun > the piss poor rifle
but i only aim for the stomach

[mint falcon]

yeah, the arresting animations need some touch too

[prime wing]

No i mean in the context of using beanbag shotties or pepperballs excessively. But i understand why it would be a cheese if you could just spam non lethal

Although you should be able in some scenarios (and should)

[mint falcon]

well the penalty for the shotgun is that if you do it wrong you kill somebody, but i've never had that happen unless i've aimed for the head

[quasi blade]

Would be kinda cool if we got other stuff like those vertigo sound guns

[mint falcon]

🙄 void just give us ultrasound tech

[quasi blade]

Would be kinda neat if we got a little mini drone to scout with

[prime wing]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/601593643152834570/1269548310272937994/Untitled_video_-_Made_with_Clipchamp.mp4?ex=66c4e5c0&is=66c39440&hm=4ee2834ed98989defc74bdb27df30ac7f97019fcf8c588d7af358df8f3530676&

[prime wing]

https://tenor.com/view/oh-that's-not-gonna-happen-brad-four-christmases-that's-definitely-not-happening-that's-a-no-go-gif-12786875385368867905

[mint falcon]

ready or not: life is strange edition

[quasi blade]

You found the Chosen One

[mint falcon]

why
lapd literally can
why cant we

would that be too much of rainbow six?

[prime wing]

gruntr confirmed it isnt happening so, sadge

[quasi blade]

Damn

[mint falcon]

what about AP Minigun?

[quasi blade]

Aight time for a revolution, down with Mister Void

[full thistle]

gents I unlocked relapse

it's joel-ver, I know my roster's gonna be cooked

[proven blade]

my friend bought supporter edition long time ago and he doesnt have access to rescue shield what are the steps for my friend to verify the ownership of supporter edition? does he go look into his purchases history on steam settings to verify?

and in the commander mode on my save i completed the campaign and its 100% and in game mission selection its saying that i have some of missions Unresolved

and in customization im wearing swat 99 BDU top and pants but its locked like complete all main missions and i did it last year and i just dont have access to the stuff i unlocked cuz i completed it 100% does anyone know how to fix this?

[undone rampart]

I'm going to take the wild guess that suspects are "working as intended" right now?
I mean I have a suspect I catch from the side, I yell for compliance, dude starts looking around. Given that it is an active shooter scenario I drill him in the ribs with a shotgun from the grand total of 3 steps distance.
Suspect is hunching over, I'm guessing he will either pass out or drop the gun, but then he starts to straighten up, so while that animation is happening I shoot him in the leg, which is close enough to fill out the sights of the CQB shotgun. No effect.
Suspect completes the straightening up animation, he gets 2 more rounds for his efforts, no effect, not even an injured animation, no stagger, no dropping the gun, no wounds showing, and then he empties the magazine in my face.
Like WTF?

Even if he was wearing a vest, under the left arm should be a weaker area of the vest, and at minimum he has a bunch of broken ribs after getting a slug drilled into him, then 3 slugs in the thigh at the same spot is something that could be considered an on-field-amputation.

[stoic elbow]

I DID IT!!

ides of the march with a b

[sullen solstice]

Way to make AI not completely autistic? Hate having to spend 20 mins running around map looking for the last suspect or civilian

Also swat members keep getting stuck behind opened doors

[topaz sorrel]

spending the last thirty minutes of every session looking for the last civilian is the worst part of the game, for sure (at least getting snapshotted in the head has been fixed with mods lol)

i was just looking for a mod to fix it somehow, but it seems none exist

as for the door thing, i've found that if you just close the door or move far enough away they can figure themselves out

[sullen solstice]

snapshotted? what that mean

[topaz sorrel]

when the ai puts a bullet in you after seeing you for less than a second

[sullen solstice]

oh yeah

[topaz sorrel]

their reaction time (and aim) being far better than any human could ever have

[sullen solstice]

what mod fixes that ?

[topaz sorrel]

there are a few in the mods page that i am trying out right now

currently trying the most popular, not sure of the name atm but it has red text on it

[sullen solstice]

home invasion ?

[topaz sorrel]

yeah

[sullen solstice]

whats it called ?

[dense geyser]

has anyone else seen this guy in a ready or not lobby spouting shit

his name is WatchmenWakeUponYT

[dense quest]

Great achievement for any beginner 😂

Did you use a specific strat?

[slim rain]

anyone know how to use the splines in replay mode?

[bitter mason]

I think they might be broken, pretty much everything in replay is

[bitter mason]

we are all very aware of watchmen

[slim rain]

oh ok, that sucks

[bitter mason]

yup

[eager goblet]

MY GAME CRASHED AND NOW MY PROGRESSION IS 0 WHAT THE FUCK

I WAS AT RUST BELT WITH 3 S'ES NOW MY PROGRESION IS AT 0 NO OFFICERS NO LOADOUTS is there any way to help

[sullen solstice]

i had the same issue

[eager goblet]

what did you do

[sullen solstice]

couldnt fix it lol i was just offering solidarity

seemed to be cause of corrupted save files

did u have a bunch of mods installed when the game updated ?

[stoic elbow]

not really, I just used my 2 flash banks and arrested 2/3 suspects and took my time, i only found 1 trap so i think i got lucky, Spawned at the lifts , Went into laundry room and then cleared the rooms 1 by 1 starting with 1204, I spent 16 minutes on it and spent the majority of the time once all suspects were dead or restrained looking for the sailer who was hidden in the middle room

[dense quest]

I mean that is the best strat imo anyway that I told you about

You just risked not using wedges so they could run out from the apartments into the hallway and surprise you

But vanilla ai don't move around much anyway

[stoic elbow]

never used wedges i use the mirror gun

[dense quest]

On paper wedges are very important to use

You often find yourself in situations where you have to leave some doors unchecked while you clear another area

[eager goblet]

no no mods

[severe depot]

Quick question, is anyone else having trouble on the Elephant mission in regards to the suspect AI killing a civilian within the first minute or 2? Literally not getting through the first few doors and I fail the Rescue civilians task.

[tacit gull]

That's pretty much what the mission is, just walk through every door and hope you run into the shooter then spend the next 20 minutes defusing the bombs and arresting people

[severe depot]

I've done the mission a good few times before but just today I did like 4 restarts and they were killing civilians within the first minute or 2 each time, A bit frustrating when trying to get and A+ lol. Plus my swat AI keep wandering off again xD

[tacit gull]

SWAT AI is pretty much unusable if you want to win the mission, they're way too slow to actually clear untill you find both suspects
Unless you're using an AI mod to make the shooting faster or something it shouldn't have changed

[severe depot]

Nah not using any mods just now. You are right though they are really slow at clearing and catching up to you. They keep wandering off after I give them orders to stack up or clear a room etc, not just on this map but had it a few times yesterday on Hide and Seek and and Narcos. Is what it is I suppose

[tacit gull]

The best you can do with the ai is just string them along and not give them any orders

They're too slow, too inconsistent, too inaccurate, incredibly poorly coordinated and horrible at clearing properly

[severe depot]

Some missions I think they are good for, but others they can be an absolute hinderance to the mission

But yeah I think for Elephant I'll just try string them along, Hopefully the commander one doesn't go horribly wrong xD

[tacit gull]

Ahem, i've only used them for (breaches they have very little chance to survive) that were too hard to clear solo so i just pray they get lucky enough to win

[severe depot]

It's a gamble just like the real world I guess lol

[tacit gull]

Yeah except trained operators don't really go through doors with their backs turned

[severe depot]

Ah but you see if they get hit in the back they don't get hit in the face big brain

Advanced tactics right there

[tacit gull]

It's really just an advanced technique programmed in by ali

[severe depot]

Back plate best plate

[tacit gull]

Another advanced technique is the arresting people in front of doors without being ordered to

[severe depot]

Advanced policy is to soak up at least 4 bullets before firing back, being sure you have probably cause to shoot back xD

probable*

[upper maple]

Idk I think they do fine. You just need to stay on top of them. Also after they clear something you need to immediately tell them to fall in

[tacit gull]

I'm not running a SWAT team to babysit them, i'd rather just not have the extra bother

[frail pier]

I already babysit at home. Why tf I gotta babysit a swat team in a game😒

[tacit gull]

There's so many ways they mess up and so much shit they do wrong that i'm not gonna bother cleaning up when i can just not have it happen

[stone stump]

you're in my way, sir

[gentle marlin]

is shoulder swapping guns a planned feature ?
would be kind cool i think

[primal badge]

Just passed Ides of March at A+. Spent several hours (probably more than 10 already) and God knows how many times I failed but finally it's done! Was a really tough nut to crack for a newbie like me 😛

[tacit gull]

Probably not, unless the gunplay gets a rework i dont really see it ever happening

[bitter mason]

I never considered it to be very necessary tbh
leaning does the job well enough

[tacit gull]

Only game i've ever truly seen do that is arma 3 and even then it was super situational and not all that necessary

[compact crag]

HOLY SJIT I LOVE TJOS GAME!!!!’

[gentle marlin]

tarky

its not about it being necessary, its just "cool" and ive seen alot of cqb videos where ppl do it, thinking about it, it would just make sense, these units would be trained to be able to shoot ambidextrous, gives you an advantage peeking angles, when you switch it up, you expose less of your body

[sterile linden]

just installed 8 mods at once, i pray my data doesnt corrupt

[eternal isle]

are multiplayer S rank achievements still broken?

[sterile linden]

Theres a mod that lets you use all of that in one. I am overjoyed.

[tacit gull]

All multiplayer achievements are fixed

[indigo gazelle]

AI teammates just standing them when I order Move & Clear still a thing I see.

[stoic vortex]

how to get A in port?

[royal nimbus]

find all the soft objs
take most suspects and civs alive

[umbral oar]

most civs alive 😎

[dense quest]

Ok somehow in this run I struggled the most on fucking dorms

[astral warren]

Gunfighter is a nice mod, it nerfs 300blk, too, since it's literally the only cartridge in the base game you should ever use, since the JHP can fuck up everything except for armour 4, but just pretend it's tarkov and leg them if shooting them in the torso seems to be tickling them instead of killing them.

Also vanilla viewmodel positions kind of hurt ngl.

[astral warren]

With a strong east coast accent, otherwise it's just an O.

[sterile linden]

Bribe the opps

[frail pier]

140 FOV when

[stoic vortex]

we should get the ballistic visor as a cosmetic for ballistic mask

[paper topaz]

how tf do you S rank elephant. Shooter always mercs a civilian before I get in

[sterile linden]

Somehow I just got S rank on elephant in 7 minutes after struggling in it for the past week

[paper topaz]

7 minutes? If I take that long all the civilians are dead lmao

[sterile linden]

I was able to take out all the shooters in the first 3

[paper topaz]

ah ok

[sterile linden]

They were all in the theatre room or whatever

[paper topaz]

ah they all just sat in lecture hall room? That's convenient

[sterile linden]

Yeah, it really was

Of course I nearly died when the shooters didn’t stop coming out the door to the lecture hall, cause I didn’t expect them all to be in there

any of yall know whats with the secret interview and listening room in the wall? #🎨ron-screenshots-and-art message

[sterile linden]

I wonder if it’s part of the lore

[paper topaz]

im fucking pissed. S ranked elephant but couldnt find bombs so now I lost my dream team of swat members who all fucking died

[sterile linden]

Me personally, I’m a sore loser so I’d just alt f4 before the game could save

Don’t tell the devs though

[shy tulip]

I am confident they are aware at this point

It doesn’t cleanse the shame

[paper topaz]

thought it autosaved. Either way, building a new backup dream team now

[sterile linden]

As long as you alt f4 before you get either to debrief or back to hq, you should be good

[paper topaz]

psssshhh finally S ranked it and my officers sanity still went down

[sterile linden]

well, they prolly would be stressed knowing you somehow lost your entire team

[paper topaz]

actually wild

[sterile linden]

https://tenor.com/view/взгляд-2000-ярдов-война-war-soldier-gif-3632617944134077161

[paper topaz]

epic embed fail

[sterile linden]

i feel ashamed

[granite peak]

is the patch likely to be this week

[umbral oar]

yes (subject to change)

[frail pier]

It's confirmed sometime this week? Or is this a 🧢

[umbral oar]

they keep saying soon

[stable kernel]

[frail pier]

Soon doesn't mean this week lmao

[umbral oar]

yep there it is again

[stable kernel]

I know nothing more than you do, I assure you

[umbral oar]

they said “really soon” a week ago im just hoping ngl

[frail pier]

Livin on a prayer

[pastel wind]

Please make the lpvo adjustable

Like aim and use scroll wheel

[teal nexus]

Let me shoot steel bearings out of the pepper gun when?

[frail pier]

Please 🙏

[acoustic ridge]

theres a mod for that

[teal nexus]

just completed greased palms, was extremely happy until i saw the next map

doing a complete rerun of RoN

[fading lichen]

im having an issue on hide and seek

ai teammates actually like do not shoot at suspects. They will be getting shot and they just stare at the suspect im the only one actually killing anyone

[teal nexus]

Might not be in their visibility

[fading lichen]

idk if it happens indoors since i havent been able to survive enough to get to the main area 😭

[teal nexus]

Like I think the AI can only see so far

[fading lichen]

ya its probably something like that

[teal nexus]

The terrorist AI is a little OP in that regard, because they will eagle eye you from 3 miles out

Feels like it atleast

[fading lichen]

yes its hard to work around, also i notice ai teammates will yell at suspects from far away but its the shooting they seem to have an issue with

[teal nexus]

I dunno then tbh

Personally I have an upgraded SWATAI mod downloaded

Makes them ever so slightly smarter

[fading lichen]

oh ya i should get one of those

i had a bunch of mods but removed them for update and i actually forgot mods are a thing oops

[teal nexus]

I tried downloading a bunch but I had to remove 90% of them because they’re ‘corrupted’

[stone bay]

i did not play for some time and now i get screen super bugged like if i were in two places at saem time, i removed mods and its still the same

[teal nexus]

can you send a screenshot? ill help if i can

[stone bay]

its very hard to screenshot coz its screen flickering into two positions, but DX11 works for some reason, 12 does not

[teal nexus]

ive always used DX11, didnt know the difference s i just stuck w/ what i started with

[hybrid sky]

It took me 17 minutes to load into the game, 32 minutes to load into The Spider, am I cooked

[primal badge]

Is it true that you can pick your dropped double-R-tap mags back up off the ground?

[full shore]

Yes. You can also share ammo with your team that way

[primal badge]

thanks. which button do you press for that?

[lone raven]

Fast reload. Then interact key.

[full shore]

It's the same interact button (default F) to pick up stuff

[primal badge]

got it. thank you 🙂

[full shore]

👍 😁

[indigo gazelle]

Does the woman in valley of the dolls that punches you count as a suspect?

[umbral oar]

just an angry civvie

[teal nexus]

Yeah that’s a cool detail

Scared or angry civilians will punch every now and again, accidentally capped a methhead for it though

[light acorn]

oh yeah speaking of cool details what's with that woman (not sure) having a seizure on the ground of the buy cheap,buy twice map. in some corner of the map?

[umbral oar]

i actually havent seen that yet wdf

[light acorn]

wait let me get on it quick

[umbral oar]

i ordered ai to bash a civ and judge was screaming LESS LETHAL LESS LETHAL

[teal nexus]

you mean right at the beginning? the one thats shot?

[light acorn]

yeah

[teal nexus]

atleast shot in the beta from what i remember, maybe now its a seizure

[light acorn]

idk if shot or not tho, only doing the seizure animation

ah I can't post images in this channel?

[teal nexus]

theres a seizure anim? i always just thought it was the physics engine

[light acorn]

same one the kid at park holmes does iirc

[teal nexus]

mb i was thinking of the gas station map, i see what you mean now

[wraith basin]

I wish I could have MC-10-80 sight for P90.

[unkempt gust]

are there vanilla neck gaiter options in game?

[amber dock]

I don't think so

[indigo gazelle]

How good is P90 against body armor?

[acoustic ridge]

good compared to other pistol calibers, probably worse than rifle calibers

[stone bay]

People when are you going to fix the screen freezing bug?

[fallen sparrow]

[plush knoll]

I’m stuck on neon tomb rn, ai swat stand there and don’t fire at suspects and the suspects have eyes in the back of their head.

[fading lichen]

ive been having similar issue with other maps as well, very noticeable on hide and seek

[mental fable]

Hey, will the Rebel Rejects make a return to RoN ?

[tender lintel]

Anyone run the latest updated modded maps? Lustful remorse is pretty solid.

[sterile linden]

Lust??????????????????????

[tender lintel]

Modded map on nexus, its a cqb heavy map.

[full thistle]

gents any tips for relapse?

[unkempt gust]

.308 > 7.62 > 5.56 > .300 > 4.6 > 5.7

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1d89lpFDA9lo_v13iBlnhtuA6DvuUnKfPaeo0d4RBGJ4/edit?gid=1362085995#gid=1362085995

[full thistle]

did they update .300 or sum? cause I remembered .300 used to be better at ap than 5.56

[unkempt gust]

It's slightly worse but negligible in most aspects

[full thistle]

ah I see

personally I tend to run 5.56 because I try to run the underfunded vibe lol

[unkempt gust]

5.56 AP penetrates the highest level threats in the game just fine. Any higher calibers are OD imo

[full thistle]

yeah especially with the sr16

I find that even the 10" works fine for the close engagements anyways too

[brittle creek]

Sins of the father is too hard 😭

[full thistle]

you need a buddy?

[brittle creek]

Honestly, I might.

[full thistle]

it'll mean it's just us and no squad but it also means more grenades will be thrown

I'm down to help rn 👍

[brittle creek]

Lol. I always run the AI squad, and I end up getting too cocky after clearing like, the 8th room in a row and decide "Yeah. This is just a closet. I don't need to look under the door, or even ask for help. I'll just walk in and-OH! So THAT'S how 9mm in the face taste!"

[full thistle]

omg so real yeah pacing is important for that one

[brittle creek]

My failures are concerning...repetitive and easily avoidable, but as soon as my ADHD decides that I'm a 'professional 1 man army', theres no stopping it

[full thistle]

one of us will need to run mirrorgun tho cause while not lethal the traps will alert suspects

[full thistle]

it's okay I suffered through it the same and the only run I did successfully wasn't pretty lol

[brittle creek]

I need someone to wiggle keys in my ears and basically say "No! Bad! Pay attention!"

[full thistle]

I wanna say I'll run gas grenade launcher to spam cs gas but what if I ran the shield instead?

[brittle creek]

Dude, I got the game like, 3 days ago. You know the techniques better than me 😅

[full thistle]

damnnn sins of the father in 3 days is really fast highkey

aight lemme friend you on steam, do you wanna vc or sum?

[brittle creek]

Sure. Sounds good.

[pine pollen]

Does the ballistic face mask actually protect you from bullets?

[pine pollen]

And does barrel length matter? I'm genuinely asking.

[sick pine]

Yeah, pistol rounds tho

Pretty sure anything past that goes thru the mask

[jolly verge]

Any 2 rifles bullets and more from pistol rounds

[jolly verge]

nope

[stable kernel]

Matters for weapon compression, but not ballistics in the game. That is all done via ammo type

[unkempt gust]

no

nearly all weapons are hitscan, velocity stat does nothing, there is slight damage dropoff at range for pistol rounds

[topaz sorrel]

first ever time trying public and i land in watchmen's lobby lol

[teal nexus]

Just wait till carriers of the vine

[dusky swallow]

Ok is it just me or the enemies just one shot you?

[stoic vortex]

there's a steady aim control?

[dry wigeon]

is there any modded mission compatible with the current game version you lot can recommend

[amber dock]

#🔧modding-chat message

[dry wigeon]

thanks

[wraith basin]

So, do suppressors actually work? Because it feels like whenever I shoot with suppressed gun, enemies always get alerted. No matter where.

[stone stump]

yes, they do

[acoustic ridge]

it doesnt make ur gun silent it just reduces the sound

[stone stump]

tl;dr it's still loud, but not instant hearing loss loud

[acoustic ridge]

and it looks cool

(all that actually matters)

[stone stump]

it also eliminates muzzle flash which is a bonus

[wraith basin]

Makes me wonder, what is the noise radius basically for those.

[stone stump]

(ignore the fact that you could just run a muzzle brake with the same benefits + less recoil)

[stone stump]

all i know is that suppressors make the suspects gain stress slightly slower

[wraith basin]

Oh, really? Good to know.

[stone bay]

i use suppressors because i like their sound 💀

[acoustic ridge]

(and that suppressors make your gun comically long)

[stone stump]

can't relate, i use ARN-180 or LVAR

[compact crag]

I HATHE LETAL OBSESSION 😭

Its amazing, im just bad at checking for traps

[wraith basin]

Oh yeah suppressed ARN-180 is so good! My alltime favorite assault rifles in the game.

[plush leaf]

The ARN-180 is lowkey slapping. It has the lowest recoil out of all .300 BLK guns

[wraith basin]

Yeah, its amazing. With suppressor and laser and you are good to go.

[plush leaf]

Agreed. If only it doesn't look so much like a box for some odd reason, plus it's lacking equip animations

Also is the Raider X even worth using like... at all? I feel like it's so misplaced into the SMG category.

[native rune]

I mean it’s in there with the other “Bring this to suffer” guns

[plush leaf]

Tbh it's better off as a sidearm

[hybrid sky]

I just loaded into the game and my commander mode save was deleted

[plush leaf]

That sucks

[hybrid sky]

Judge USIA mkultra brainrot mode incoming

[north prawn]

can we get a spas 12 added to the game

[compact crag]

DAMN YOU BOOBY TRAPPED DOOR

I KEEP ACCIDENTALLY KICKING IT IN

I CHECKED THE FUCKING DOOR FOR TRAPS IT BLEW ANYWAY

[plush leaf]

Man ngl, the HK416 in this game sucks

Recoil's way too high

[acoustic ridge]

do the veteran suspect ai actually do anything different when they yell covering fire or is it just a voiceline

[mint falcon]

"Added ability to pull out fresh can of pepper spray after one runs out, as long as the player has added multiple cans to their inventory"

so do you mean to tell me that wasn't in the game before? LMAO

[granite peak]

les gooo patch

hopefully it fixed crashing

[astral warren]

I can't help but notice the lack of damage cap fixing in this patch.

[edgy salmon]

tfw 8 gig update for bugfixes

[astral warren]

Fuck you and your storage space.

[edgy salmon]

I guess 😔

I have no idea how bug fixes and a few improvements take 8 gigs

[stone stump]

if just one byte gets updated in a file, the entire file needs to be redownloaded basically

[frail pier]

I mean... we still can tank quite a bit

Added ability to pull out fresh can of pepper spray after one runs out, as long as the player has added multiple cans to their inventory

W change though.

[dense quest]

no swat AI improvements

[half edge]

Did you even read the changelog?

They fixed uhhhh

[native rune]

That one gas station side door literally just not working for ai

And nav mesh stuff

[half edge]

And kicking one-way doors apparently

[native rune]

This better not have reset my keybinds

[frail pier]

Oh fuck I hope it didn't. Half my keys are changed🥲

[half edge]

I wish you could remove weapons entirely instead of just having no ammo

[native rune]

Nope the binds are safe

Uhhh why is my hair peeking through EVERY HELMET NOW 😭

[full thistle]

same, my teammates look at me weird for running nothing but a sidearm on some runs but it would be so cool

[frail pier]

Can anyone verify if the suspect/civ bombs will still kill other suspects through ceilings and walls or is it both officers and suspects that don't get killed?

[half edge]

https://tenor.com/view/generation-kill-police-that-mustache-gif-9762598

[frail pier]

I would think it's both but patch notes only say officers.

[half edge]

oop, no embed

[native rune]

Not even just the mod ones either lmao all the vanilla ones except MICH Ballistic

[half edge]

Just means your hair is too long

[full thistle]

I'm thinking about unironically getting the home invasion dlc just for the balaclava

[frail pier]

Fuck you I look like jesus

[twilit river]

I assume todays update will break mods again?

[full thistle]

brother why are you wearing a helmet then

[frail pier]

To style on these fools

[full thistle]

let the last face these suspects see be the lord and savior himself, as you dish out "forgiveness"

[half edge]

It's pretty decent anyhow. Tad bit more expensive than I'd like though for how short the maps are

[frail pier]

The lord giveth me a FAL I shall cleanse you with with all the lead I can giveth

[half edge]

Although overall a pretty fair deal

[full thistle]

you gotta run just the tle 1911

[frail pier]

Pepper spray looking kinda fun tho

[gleaming fable]

hello fellow FAL enjoyer

[full thistle]

ic ic

[frail pier]

13 cans go brrrr. You can probably do majority of maps with only pepper spray

[full thistle]

despite the SA-58 being objectively better, I would still like to see a socom m14

[frail pier]

YES

[gleaming fable]

bro, we need more battle rifles in general

[frail pier]

An m14 would fuck so hard

[full thistle]

or like an SR-25 I don't even care anymore I just want more .308 in this game 😭

[half edge]

I'd like to be able to blow a suspect's head smoov off

[full thistle]

I think the gore mechanics for this game for fine as is tbh

[half edge]

Is there gore?

[frail pier]

M14 gets added I'll throw SA58 in the trash can

[full thistle]

shotguns

you can dismember limbs and cave skulls in with shotguns, very fun

[half edge]

Ah, I don't generally use lethal shotties

[full thistle]

shotguns make a great alternative what they lack in ap they make up for in sheer stopping power

[gleaming fable]

i wish for improved gore. the head just gets replaced by a different model when it gets caved in. lmao

[full thistle]

if you can stay focused while the ai is shooting at you then you'll be fine with shotties

[half edge]

Yeh, I've got enough experience with the beanbag that it won't be much of a change I'd imagine

[gleaming fable]

shotguns in this game is based. unlike its COD counterpart where it loses lethality when the enemy is 3 feet away from you instead of 2 feet. lmao

[bitter mason]

yknow I wonder just how much of an impact on performance a bit more interactivity with props on the map would have
shame so many bits of detail are just static parts of the map that cant be moved or knocked around

[full thistle]

oh yeah you definitely won't have to worry about range with shotguns their effective range is like 50 yards

even better with slugs

[full thistle]

me dying due to a camera being a static object as it eats up multiple rifle rounds:

[gleaming fable]

[full thistle]

one warning though, dismemberment can happen really often

[half edge]

Good.

[full thistle]

if that happens they're lowkey kinda dead + you can't restrain em if it's the hands + your squad ai's mental health will tank

on the bright side they aren't pretending to be dead lol

[half edge]

Mental health mental shmelth

Fire em and replace em. ez

[full thistle]

my core memory was when I magdumped a suspect close range and blew both of his hands off

that was when I found you can't cuff a suspect if there's nothing to cuff

[edgy salmon]

Wow that sounds stupid thanks for explaining

[bitter mason]

unless they lowered the dismemberment range, shotguns are actually really good at killing people aslong as you hit their limbs

the 870 actually has very low recoil compared to the rest of the shotguns too

[full thistle]

I was playing sins of the father with a friend last night and consistently got dismemberments roughly 70% of the time

[bitter mason]

lol
you could/can get them pretty easily even at super long distances, its pretty silly

[full thistle]

imo the supernova is the best balance between fire rate and recoil but I do appreciate the 870

[gleaming fable]

i love turning Voll into a .7zip file with my shotgun.

[full thistle]

yeah I got dismemberments across entire hallways with buckshot it's bonkers

[bitter mason]

I havent actually used the nova much so idk the difference. I was actually kinda suprised at how low recoil the 870 is, barely moves at all

[full thistle]

the only difference you might really notice is it pumps faster and has one extra shell in the tube, but overall they're pretty similar

I like that the 1301 has an ak handguard that's pretty neat

[pure blaze]

Can someone confirm if other players can hear your MMB commands in multiplayer? (Affirmative, negative, move there, etc.)

[full thistle]

yeah it works

[pure blaze]

So its just that nobody uses them when I play?

[full thistle]

...yep

[pure blaze]

And its only judge voicelines right?

[full thistle]

I think? Idk about the others cause I only run judge's voice

judge sounds like the master chief and I'm all for it

[pure blaze]

Oh im asking because i select other voicelines and the mmb commands only use his voice but they yell and report in their own voices

[bitter mason]

judge is the only voice with commands and stuff

[pure blaze]

Thats what made me think that the cmds were client sided

[bitter mason]

so they just use judge instead of the voice you picked

[half edge]

I think just nobody uses them

[pure blaze]

Well that and the fact that nobody responds

[full thistle]

if you really wanna be sure they know I'd just use the text chat honestly

[half edge]

For me people will either use zero communication whatsoever, or are callout gods with VC

There's almost no in between

[full thistle]

I use the vc to crack jokes

like sometimes I'll just run old civvy clothes and be like "y'know back in my day..."

[pure blaze]

Immediately Gets blown up by that one officer that always runs shotguns

[full thistle]

the best part is when I throw a grenade but it bounces right back out

[leaden finch]

fr can we get like a crossair for nades?

[full thistle]

honestly I like that there's no crosshair but yeah it's so annoying

[hollow flare]

Home Invasion Patch 3 just broke the lpvo (12x) scope
and now you cant see ur reticle its just like looking down a telescope, is it just because of the new update? or is there another problem (no mods btw)

[shy tulip]

I have seen that reported with this update

[silk junco]

camera man what camera do you have

[hollow flare]

wha?

[silk junco]

what camera do you have

[hollow flare]

its just a name, I have a camera but idk what it is, its just on a shelf, and it has been on that shelf for... maybe 5 years?

[silk junco]

tragic

[hollow flare]

fr

[hollow flare]

well I had reported it, idk if some one elts did

[tight knot]

im getting a bug where the mission summary page has no clickable buttons

seems to happen about 25% of the time

[hollow flare]

just a funky gllitch ig then

[tight knot]

yip

[shy tulip]

@hollow flare take a picture of the scope and send it in #🎨ron-screenshots-and-art

[tight knot]

silly q, is hotel map still in the game?

[faint gazelle]

on god yanking my pc outta the window why a patch is 7.99gb

[amber dock]

the old one no, it's been replaced with 'Sins of the father'

[tight knot]

got it. ok. makes sense

anyone know the official game engine map names? or have a table of them? trying to use console command "servertravel" but the next parameter is a mapname

[urban walrus]

There is a mod that is in the works to bring the 2019 trailer version back

[tight knot]

nice ^

[amber dock]

but no guarantees it will actually come and keep getting updated since it's a mod map and volunteer project

[old bay]

love the new patch, so sad that the replay editor continues to shit the bed, its one of my favorite parts of the game

[old bay]

old cherryessa farm is the one i miss

[hollow flare]

well further more I found out, yk how you can turn ur head? I turned my head well aiming and I found out its there, just really fucked up

[shy tulip]

Take a pic

[viral bone]

did they fix clothing clipping issues

[shy tulip]

Seems you're correct, I've passed it on.

[shy tulip]

Broadly speaking, probably not all of it.

[amber dock]

brave sentence sinner, now people will assume you are part of VOID and will shit on you and tell you to relay everything

[shy tulip]

Didn't you know? I am John Void or Not

[bitter mason]

I think the initial DLC update did fix a number of clipping issues but not all
theres a mod that fixes a few of them

[amber dock]

I thought David was

[shy tulip]

There are many body doubles

John Void is a very high profile person

[tight knot]

another bug ive seen is after returning to the lobby, i cant select a new mission at the table

wont show F ability strangely

[viral bone]

cool , at least DLC ones , they had very visible clipping issues

also with heavy armor

[tight knot]

another bug ive now seen is on return to lobby, it shows wrong player count

[bitter mason]

oh god the LOD is so much worse now

[indigo gazelle]

mmmm how worthwhile is spending $10 on the DLC?

[amber dock]

Worth compared to DLC's today, If you have a friend who has DLC you can play with them. So only one perosn needs the DLC rest can just follow along

[granite peak]

if anyone has the patch downloaded are there still crashes from before or no pls lemme know thanks

[urban walrus]

There is LOD issue on a few maps if you set View Distance lower than Epic

[bitter mason]

nah its some NPC models having terrible low LODs, even on max view distance its baaaad

[viral bone]

It's fair price, you get 3 maps, cosmetics as well

[bitter mason]

the homeless dude on gas goes very squished and loses his wrists at a very short distance

[viral bone]

When you remember that cod sold 20eur DLC for few maps lol

[scenic owl]

Did the latest update fix the freezing?

[crimson dagger]

Not for everyone that's for sure

[modest aurora]

Whats yalls fav gun to use

[amber dock]

LVAR, beanbag or SA 58

[modest aurora]

nice

[finite cipher]

is this game playable without friends

[amber dock]

It’s doable but for best overall experience I would say with buddies is better.

[bitter mason]

theres a singleplayer with friendly AI you can command. They do the job pretty well but have some issues. A different experience to playing with actual people tho ofc

[half edge]

What maps are you possibly using a 12x on. Holy.

[acoustic ridge]

singleplayer with ai plays alot differently than with actual people, you pretty much have to babysit the ai and tell them what to do

[half edge]

Babysit is a pretty harsh word

Unless you're going for S rank you don't have to give them a single command

[acoustic ridge]

you dont need ai to S rank, but if u want to use the swat ai to its potential u have to pretty much babysit them

[indigo gazelle]

There's no way to carry more grenade launcher ammo?

[lavish grove]

ok the fucking station songs on the OST give me fucking orgasms I swear on god

Like station - empty is sooo mwahhhhhhh

chefs kiss

[umbral oar]

judge got that blue eyes stare

[misty island]

Did grenade bouncing was fixed or is it still broken?

[lavish grove]

bro got burnout from voll health house 24/7 till he finally gets S rank

[half edge]

Just got my last achieve for 100%. Dorms in under 5 minutes solo kinda sucked

[smoky mason]

Hello, apparently since DLing the new patch, the reticles for the LPVO and ELCAN have disappeared. even when I run it on safe mode. has anyone else encountered this issue?

[half edge]

@smoky mason Yes

[smoky mason]

thank you!

[half edge]

👍

[oak root]

this aliasing change for optics is thte greatest change the devs have ever made in their entire careers

i can actually FUCKING see out of the eotech now instead of looking through a pastel red blob

[blazing yew]

brisa cove glass is still a pain in the ass how do these motherfuckers see through it so easily

[half edge]

Yeah, I just shoot any windows out at this point. Can't see jack through them

[frail pier]

Render distance maxed but we still have AI shooting while they're not even rendered for us.
that's wild

[frigid shell]

Which mission is harder? Relapse or Hide and Seek?

[frail pier]

Hide and seek

[frigid shell]

I’m stuck on Relapse rn

[frail pier]

Out of all the missions they're the worst showcase of the AI. Wallbanging through whole ass trucks and containers, Had one with arterial bleeding side stepping and hitting every shot from stupid far away (While sometimes flickering in and out of existence)

[frigid shell]

I get John Wicked almost everytime

To me getting shot is like getting jumpscared in this game, almost everytime it happens I have no idea where it’s coming from

[blazing yew]

i just worry about hitting civs

[frigid shell]

And in Relapse which starting location is better? The parking garage? Or the hospital main entrance?

[blazing yew]

don't wanna get massacred by my dipshit squad ai for it. also hide and seek is 1000% worse than relapse. new updates made relapse worse cuz of the spawn changes, but it's at least indoors, while hokan is, like hustlerz said, the absolute worst of the ai

they sprint sideways while lasering you from across the map while you can't see shit lol + you have to search for that goofy ass container

in relapse you just shoot guys until they're all dead

[frigid shell]

I didn’t realize the update changed it

[half edge]

ngl if you're getting lit up by guys that far away, your pathing is fucked

[frigid shell]

Well, sometimes I don’t see suspects in certain areas and sometimes I see them in areas they never were before

[half edge]

Main entrance

[frail pier]

You can't path on that map without taking a long range engagement.

The issue is how the AI are sidestepping while hitting everything. This wasn't as bad prior but then again we weren't taking double damage before UE5.

[frigid shell]

Thought so

[acoustic ridge]

imo relapse, better armed suspects, and u have to deal with bombs
port is easy when you get a good path down

[frail pier]

The weapons are pretty much the same. Relapse just has 200 health suspects. Why would bombs make things difficult?

[half edge]

You can severely limit how long they can engage from. There's maybe 2-3 small stints where you have to cross an opening and expose yourself to long range, but if you're moving smart you won't have that long range of engagements

The only time I've encountered baddies so far that they're popping out of view is when I've intentionally pathed in a way that results in cross-map view. I can't say I've noticed it on Port, but I have seen it on greased palms

[frail pier]

You can't limit wallbanging and shooting through whole ass trucks. The only stints are when you're outside of warehouse. Which is where this still happens regardless if you use cover. You take the left? Well those 2 buildings can have dudes spraying through the walls. The popping in and out of existence happens on shorter ranges than greased palms. So idk man.....

But you play with AI or with others right?

[half edge]

🤷‍♂️ Like I say, only time I've seen it is when I'm pathing sub-optimally

[half edge]

Yeah, of course

[blazing yew]

my problem isn't that they can see me, cuz they should be able to, my problem is that they actually hit their shots while full-autoing with a pistol from 100m away

ai on the voll house are better trained, better equipped, and in daylight, and they still have worse accuracy than these guys

[frail pier]

Or again hitting shit through solid objects. Even if it doesn't damage you much it fucks our vision.

But hey sub optimally pathing no matter what route you take I guess.

But I'm over here playing solo without AI or others.

[blazing yew]

solo on hokan is crazy tbh. only map i've ever done solo is voll's house and it's super easy if you wedge things right

[plush knoll]

Neon tombs has a railing on the 2f which has huge gaps. I couldn’t get a bullet to penetrate but for whatever reason bromigo hostile ai was beaming shots through.

[half edge]

👆

Proper wedging does wonders

[blazing yew]

enemies in voll's house also try to snipe you except they tend to miss every single shot and then run out of ammo and then die

[frail pier]

I've got 5 maps left for WR any% runs on solo left 😦 Port being one of them.

[blazing yew]

and missing every shot and dying is a lot truer to life than the stuff going down in hokan imo

just got back to station and my operator's stuck in the floor lol. maybe that's enough RON for tonight

[acoustic ridge]

gas station? streamer?

[frail pier]

Ahh yeah the guy on upper disco.

[plush knoll]

Volls is my go to feel good map, some days I do feel like there’s a game master sliding the suspect ai from Xmas noob to John Wick. One day, I goof and sus misses every shot 5m away while others they are across hoken with a 5-7 wounding me on the first shot while running.

[blazing yew]

in fairness. voll is also the only map i ever tried soloing

gas station/streamer should both be pretty easy but i almost never play them

[acoustic ridge]

i have only tried soloing those maps so far, i know i can probably do most of the other maps but i havent tried

[blazing yew]

once entered a room and a suspect 2 feet away from me missed every single shot. i killed him without being hit once

the kicker is that he was /behind me/

i entered that room facing the completely wrong direction 😭 🙏 what was in the water that day

[frail pier]

If you can solo voll then the rest of the maps aren't that bad.

except port

[blazing yew]

i've only even beaten port once lol. actual nightmare map

[half edge]

Just gotta learn from every attempt

[blazing yew]

i actually did most of port solo that one time because my only teammate got killed, but it still wasn't solo

[rustic robin]

port is a mediocre map

[frail pier]

Its night and day difference. You can literally kite your AI squad and smoke that map for the most part without you even shooting. But when you're alone its so fucked.

[blazing yew]

like. he still got a lot of kills early on

[plush knoll]

I only ever play with one other friend. Coms is key.

[rustic robin]

some of these maps require a platoon of swat to clear

[blazing yew]

just throwing the squad ai at the enemy is the apex of strategy in ready or not (except when they just fucking. all die for no reason. this happened to me multiple times in the voll house stairwell like literally how did that happen. why)

[frail pier]

Require? no.... highly recommended yes lol.

[blazing yew]

imagine if RON actually let you bring 40 swat guys. would be a lot more realistic tbh

[rustic robin]

40?

[plush knoll]

Yeah we duo’d the whole game, it takes time and patience.

[half edge]

Yeah, anyone who's seen SWAT responses should know that a 5-man team would never be the only thing deployed for some of those situations

But if it was realistic it wouldn't be fun

[plush knoll]

Look, a simple process tree- did the suspect die? Yes - good | no - use SA58

[rustic robin]

increasing the max mp lobby size to 10 hurts nobody but their servers (and some peoples fps)

[half edge]

What even is the max? 8?

[shy tulip]

Unless it was changed, the max is like 32, but your game will break at like 12.

[prime wing]

you will be able to play with 8 folks no problem, but suspects are likely going to be braindead

[foggy nebula]

Hey guys, I have an issue here. My anti-flashing quality slider doesn't seem to work. No matter if I adjust it from low to epic and then hit apply, nothing happens

[buoyant fern]

that preformance patch is a lie, the game still runs like shit

[gaunt nebula]

Is the latest patch not downloading for anybody?

[buoyant fern]

exit and reopen steam

[gaunt nebula]

Done

[buoyant fern]

should patch then

[gaunt nebula]

It hasn't 🤭

[buoyant fern]

you need to close the .exe

[gaunt nebula]

I did. I've also rebooted and verified the game's files. Still no sign of the patch downloading.

[buoyant fern]

no clue then

[gaunt nebula]

Fuckin' Steam 😒 The game still runs fine on the August 2nd patch. Guess I'll keep waiting for it sort itself out 😁

[deep yoke]

how do i get the mods that are maps example golden goose casino it says it is installed but i dont see it in commander mode or quickplay mode.

[prime wing]

Is the map updated for latest update?

[deep yoke]

oh not sure

no, it says last update is 1 year ago

[prime wing]

There u go

[deep yoke]

thanks for answering i never knew to check the last update info to see.

i rarely play this game

[fading lichen]

finally cleared lawmaker without killing a hostage

[frail pier]

Why do the AI just shoot the ground over and over while being across the map?

Is this from stress?

[stoic vortex]

high on meth

[shy tulip]

i know some mods do actually make it that meth suspects can just randomly shoot

I don't think as in like spray walls, just that they have itchy fingers

[frail pier]

#🎨ron-screenshots-and-art message

TF is he doing then shooting the ground like a mad man.

Zero mods installed btw

[acoustic ridge]

are u talking abt the person doing pov or suspect ai

[frail pier]

Suspect AI.

[acoustic ridge]

i dont see the prt where a suspect shoots the ground

[frail pier]

You don't hear him shooting the whole time? Or the impacts on the ground?

[acoustic ridge]

i hear it now, idk why that could be

[frail pier]

Yeah that's why I asked.. Is the AI just taking a shit internally or is this like stress/some mechanic?

[shy tulip]

I assume it was them shooting the hitbox of whoever that dead person was for some reason

[frail pier]

So suspects kill eachother? on purpose? I'm not playing with anyone lol.

[shy tulip]

Ah no, I thought that was a dead swat

[frail pier]

Nope solo

[acoustic ridge]

suspect ai shoots "dead" officers to finish them off?

[shy tulip]

No, but yknow, bugs

[acoustic ridge]

i could swear suspects have kept mag dumping my body after i die

[buoyant fern]

I should be allowed to dead check a terrorist who just murdered 30 people. There's so many things about this game game that ruin the immersion, it seems like no one on the team understands what the real purpose of SWAT is or how the context of the situation is important. Its like they want you to experience the harsh brutal realities of combat without any of the freedom of dealing with a person who is extremely hostile and violent. This game just screams civilian developers to me.

[half edge]

🤨

Yeah, cause cops are allowed to double tap unconscious perps to make sure they're dead. That makes sense

[buoyant fern]

lol

[acoustic ridge]

i dont think they are allowed to double tap someone who cant fight back anymore

[buoyant fern]

Its ok to shoot some who is in front of you and who can still pose a threat and who was one moments before

[half edge]

Idk if that applies to police the way it does for military

[buoyant fern]

it does

[half edge]

Interesting.

[topaz sorrel]

no one on the team understands what the real purpose of SWAT
the feeling i get when i'm looking for the last civilian 😂

[half edge]

That 1 civ that circled around you and is now at the start of the map

[topaz sorrel]

just chanting "NOT MY JOB, NOT MY JOB, NOT MY FUCKING JOB" in my head while i search every crack in the walls
(i'll never find him and abandon the mission)

[buoyant fern]

if a civilian pulls out a cell phone im gonna kick you in the dick as hard as i can and that isnt excessive force

thats called saving your life

[half edge]

Tbf I imagine having the game understand who and what is "ahead" of you would be incredibly hard

[shy tulip]

They do in the sense of when they first shoot someone, they're mag dumping them most likely. But yes, they're not gonna then wait a minute and then mag dump them again, unless that person is moving and is presenting signs as a threat.

I believe the game gives this leeway as well.

[half edge]

Yeah, there is some leeway even after they throw their weapon or go unconscious that you can shoot them without penalty

[halcyon sorrel]

Anyone got any tips on how to pass valley of the dolls?

[half edge]

Git gud?

[topaz sorrel]

go side entrance

[shy tulip]

If you are having trouble, try different routes or exits, avoid windows unless you know you have a good shot, and try to treat the map like a grid and clear areas so AI can't flank as easy.

[halcyon sorrel]

Ok thanks

[topaz sorrel]

never go onto the catwalk or down the stairs near the kitchen, that place is a killbox; clear kitchen from behind first

[half edge]

Yeah that catwalk area over the lobby area will screw you every time if you're not super careful

[topaz sorrel]

same for the windowed room between the kitchen and courtyard. you can't see through blinds, but the AI has no issue lasering you through them

[half edge]

Not worried about time and taking it nice and careful, I'll go front door until the catwalk, wedge and backtrack to the side entrance.

[topaz sorrel]

a lot of dollhouse is just knowing which rooms to save for last, yeah. the actual order is up to you

but like, absolutely never push courtyard in the beginning, or try and go down the kitchen stairs lol

[half edge]

Always shooting out glass too, cause the reflection makes it impossible for the player to see through, but again AI have no problem

[topaz sorrel]

the AI will headshot you the femtosecond they see you through a 0.001" gap in the blinds from 50yd
i have nightmares about the dollhouse windows

[buoyant fern]

If you pull a gun out and shoot at me and my team, you're going to die 9 out 10 times. I'm not gonna spend the extra time on you worrying about your life when you just tried to end the life of my team mate who i know has a kid and a wife at home. There is a human element of the assaulters that VOID doesn't seem to understand

[topaz sorrel]

🤔

[buoyant fern]

anime pfp

[topaz sorrel]

worse, it's gacha

[half edge]

Should be no penalty for shooting the civs who reach for their phone like they do

[buoyant fern]

lmao

[shy tulip]

Unfortunately as law enforcement, that is your job to care about them. Even after police shoot suspects, the first thing they do (after making sure their weapon is safe) is provide medical aid

In other terms, dead checking (outside of reason) will never be ROE acceptable more than likely

[topaz sorrel]

really they're only supposed to use deadly force against an actively dangerous person

so if they're unconcious, disarmed, or otherwise no longer a threat, they don't have the right to use it anymore

basically just always magdump the guys you want dead, so long as they're still falling towards the ground they're still "moving" lol

[buoyant fern]

you can get shot and pretend to be dead or unconscious thats a real tactics that is used

[acoustic ridge]

thats why you magdump them instead of dead checking

[buoyant fern]

thats honestly the reality of it

[topaz sorrel]

yeah. if you ever do use deadly force, use all of it; make it impossible for them to play dead in the first place

you can't play dead if your brain is no longer inside your body

[acoustic ridge]

im sure it looks a lot worse if an officer shoots someone in the face while they are "dead" than if they just magdump during the initial shootout

[halcyon sorrel]

Cant shoot if your arm is detached. - one of my officers before i gave him the beanbag

he was running the supernova before

[buoyant fern]

You just cant shoot some who you have passed in combat. You get into war crime territory when you go and shoot people who are behind your line of advance

[frigid shell]

Do headphones help hear suspects' footsteps at all?

[shy tulip]

Depends on your setup, but probably better than most others yeah, they're also talkative now

[neon spoke]

love this, best possible thing

[frigid shell]

And if you peek a door and then open it with your body instead of pressing F to open, is it quieter? Because when I open after peeking, the suspect always catches me

[shy tulip]

I want to say yesss... cause I remember there being something about a build having the AI be too sensitive to doors opening, but not if you peeked it first

[frigid shell]

I was watching an S guide vid and he peeked it and opened it with his body and the suspect didn’t turn around

Bc when I open doors they always turn towards it

[exotic linden]

Thank god this game isn't using unreal engine 5 technologies because they're horrible

[frigid shell]

I just got unauthorized use of force for stopping a human shield with pepper balls. What did I do wrong? Did I shoot the civ too much or something?

[paper herald]

Are freezes gone?

[frigid shell]

I haven’t gotten one yet so far

I just realized how useful peeking doors are. When I see a suspect from far away, they don’t even see me

[stone stump]

it is though

[bitter mason]

Probably hit the civ I assume
Though really that shouldn't give you unauthorised

[halcyon sorrel]

Who's gonna tell him?

[bitter mason]

[halcyon sorrel]

On the topic of UE5, what genius at void thought that was a good idea?

[paper herald]

what are these 50gb patches!?

[stoic vortex]

another update??

[paper herald]

3rd patch

[stoic vortex]

🥹

[paper herald]

i hope it fixed game breaking bugs

[long cipher]

on avg ue5 just gives more fps with the same looks

[halcyon sorrel]

My game feels worse

[stone stump]

and it's not because of ue5 btw

in fact if you aren't unlucky it runs better because of it