👮ron-discussion

[boreal egret]

idk why but sometimes when i turn my frames shootemself, if i restart RON its fine

[silver palm]

Isn't there an option about that
Nevermind

[jolly verge]

does your shadowplay overlay flickering?

[boreal egret]

naw

[jolly verge]

you in game right now?

[boreal egret]

yea

[jolly verge]

and it's not flickering when you open overlay?

[boreal egret]

no, it will just happen and then i have to restart and then it will initially have bad frames but it sorts itself out. let me see if it happens after a mission

[silver palm]

no fps overlay?

[jolly verge]

if it's happening only on new missions then it's probably just shader compiling

[boreal egret]

when i engage with AI it starts

[jolly verge]

yeah, shader compiling

it's will stutter for awhile when you encounter new shaders

[boreal egret]

how do i fix that?

I don't think its favorable to have my shit stutter in combat

[jolly verge]

you can't fix it (well you can play on dx11 with horrible performance), play through or wait for update with pso pre-compilation

[boreal egret]

ight, thanks for the help!!

you have a good day

[trail peak]

Any chance that the DLC story was inspired by the recent Hurricane, or was it just coincidence?

[shy tulip]

It was announced before the hurricane

[night pasture]

Nah the whole story was leading to a hurricane setting the last level before the dlc deals with a hurricane approaching mainland

[trail peak]

Gotcha, I have not went through all the mission yet, so I did not realize that. Still a good setting as that was a fear of mine with this recent hurricane that came by. Thankfully nothing happened.

[night pasture]

The Texas one came the day before my vacation down there :p

So I headed to Florida >:3

[gaunt gale]

No DLCs or levels will be released in response to anything. We really need one of these disclaimers

https://qph.cf2.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-a4e14523440b3ba4e3a91e652a44721c-lq

Maybe even refrencing events

[signal field]

Will my groups be able to play the dlc missions if only the host owns the dlc?

[urban walrus]

Yes

[frail pier]

The hurricane in game was around WAY before Beryl lol

[mossy talon]

Does anyone know if the DLC is gonna be in Unreal Engine 5.3 or not?

[frail pier]

Katrina I think is the closest we've gotten to as bad as what's portrayed in game.

[trail peak]

I dont follow the game news, I just saw the announcement and was like..."huh..thats funny"

[shy tulip]

Yes

Read the pins in #💬general-discussion

[mossy talon]

Thank you!

[vivid crescent]

Are we keeping our saves with the engine update?

[noble pasture]

I think so

Saves are kept in a different folder

[uncut garden]

Seriously...If they ditched the whole Recruit new guys and mental stress thingy...I wouldn't miss it much tho

I just like to play the Practice mode better after finishing the whole Commander mode

[prime wing]

So you are telling me that hurricanes are not exclusive to ready or not? And that hurricanes may appear at any time in the country during hurricane season? What kind of bullshit is this.

[noble pasture]

Fun fact, a lawsuit lead to everyone using this disclaimer

Back in 20th century

More like an Easter egg

Ron's Elephant is a university shoot out, not high school like actual Columbine

[eager merlin]

what hurricane

[gaunt gale]

Oh I know, it's a pretty funny case honestly

[noble pasture]

What upsets me is that Ron made Los Suenos a border city

Aka dislocated Los Angeles from west coast

[trail peak]

I agree, this needs to be reworked. I initially cared, but after a while it got annoying so the recruits just became cannon fodder. A dedicated practice (risk free) mode separate from the campaign would allow me to just play the game without worrying about recruits.

[waxen grove]

Wow that’s a great cost and a good release date. Now I have to ask….. is it ready

[waxen grove]

I feel like it could be inspired but older hurcanes but it’s just a natural disaster

[visual cosmos]

AI needs more world interactions, maybe give them V.O. for their specific names, I'm in my first playthrough and the first time one of my guys died I kinda "shocked" but I didn't really remember his name so it was not as impactful as it could've 😅

[trail peak]

"Jeffery was a great recruit, he was like a son to me..." Someone at the funeral " His name was David you POS!"

[visual cosmos]

Yup

wonder if mods couldn't just add "Idle V.O" or smth

[uncut garden]

I would love if the enemy AI were more Dynamic...like they patrol more around the map dynamically which can potentially catch ya off guard

Feel like currently there's just not enough variety in terms of enemy positionings...

[visual cosmos]

Suspect AI is the only thing that's holding this game back, I have no idea why the AI thinks they're in a COD lobby or something. ~5 SWAT officers pointing guns at you from multiple angles~ "proceeds to open fire"

[uncut garden]

They just don't want to live anymore
Los Suenos is such a shit hole..even worser with their current economy

No wonder those guys are riskin it all

[visual cosmos]

lol

[uncut garden]

But seriously....Some of the AI suspects definitely need a rework
Oh course It makes sense for Terrorist guys from Neon Tomb or those veteran dudes from Ides of March to not give up so easily

But holy hell those damn gangbangers from Thank U Come Again, 23 MB per second...the VietNam sons are a bit too aggressive which don't make any sense

[visual cosmos]

Neon I was 100% on board with how aggressive and determined they were... My first death was in Buy Cheap, Buy Twice, a dude crawled under a garage door with an AK, I was literally yelling while he was doing that, blue team was at my back, he cancelled his animation and headshotted me 🤣

[real pulsar]

I got one tapped on hospital from a guy blind firing

[tight knot]

Oreo, i would submit to you, there should be an option to make the AI behave like that, IF ONE SO CHOSE

what if they were all banging meth prior to the LEO engagement?

[frail pier]

23 MB was a bit excessive I'll agree. That whole level is the one that makes the least amount of sense to me. Maybe I'm missing some sort of lore info.

[uncut garden]

And for some reasons AI trying their best to go for your limbs alot haha
I don't mind the Bandaging yourself mechanic...But NGL I do feel like It happens very commonly

[visual cosmos]

I get that, meth would make you uncompliant and very aggressive, sure. But it doesn't make sense for hired security to be willing to die for a CSAM content creator...

[shy tulip]

You don't got armor on your arms and legs, you do on your torso

Not gonna see damage on the chest if armor ain't broke

[real pulsar]

I dislike streamer map due to the amount of guards there are

[visual cosmos]

those guys are "gangsters" they could be on meth

[real pulsar]

I thought it was going to be a more realistic smaller map with less enemies

[stone bay]

We need gamemode where we swat the streamer...literally

Streamer not entire terrorist group

[frail pier]

I prefer throwing him off the balcony

[real pulsar]

wpupd be interesting of there was a small chance it was a prank call

[visual cosmos]

Nah, the briefing is structured to make you think this is either a prank call or a dumb content creator, I think** 23mb/s is one of the best written missions

[frail pier]

But like why does streamer have 8+ guards protecting him?

[uncut garden]

Isn't that whole mission technically a prank call tho
His mom is still alive, and His brother has no ideas wtf is going on

[frail pier]

Yes but explain the other 8 dudes who wanna kill you :/

[real pulsar]

this part passes me off

[uncut garden]

It's just a pure coincidence that the Swat team bumped into an illegal crypto mining operation

[frail pier]

Illegal crypto mining...

[shy tulip]

You wouldn't get it, he's just a cool kid

[real pulsar]

I wish it was less suspects

maybe like one apartment

[visual cosmos]

Ok, but the fact that whatever toes the guy's name is willing to DIE for no fucking reason is INSANE.

[real pulsar]

yes this part

[shy tulip]

I don't think anyone wants to go down for what he has on his computer and bedroom

[real pulsar]

does that fatass look like he has the balls to shoot a cop

[astral warren]

Yeah, that whole mission can just be deleted honestly and nothing of value would be lost.

[shy tulip]

He looks like he's dumb enough/narcassitic enough to try

[astral warren]

He doesn't unless he pretends it's a video game.

[real pulsar]

possibly

[shy tulip]

His "Discord" status is weird alpha male shit

[uncut garden]

Looks like he does judging from how aggressive he tried to end me with his shotty and pistol

[frail pier]

You can't be alpha while wearing fucking cat ears with blue hair.... nah just nah

[astral warren]

get botted idiot

[visual cosmos]

oh, can't call the guy what he is lol

[real pulsar]

i wish there where more moment of tense standoff where a suspect is standing there with a gun figuring out what to do when you're yelling for compliance

[astral warren]

Right? Is he trying to be the alpha or get fucked, I don't get it.

[real pulsar]

If I wanted to shoot enemies that have no fear I'd play any other shooter

[astral warren]

If a "man" with cat ears and blue hair approaches me, I am going to have certain expectations.

[noble pasture]

Talking about Streamer? He literally has cp on his night stand

[frail pier]

I feel like that goes against any alpha red pill swallowing stereotype out there with how he looks in game.

[noble pasture]

He either dies or dies in prison

[real pulsar]

like I don't expect him to fucking shoot md

[astral warren]

I am aware, but he has alpha meme shit on his fake discord, which is confusing because his ass has blue hair with cat ears.

Like??????

It's almost like the fake discord content was for a different version of the character that modified into what it is now.

[frail pier]

He's honestly a shit shot anyways. The only dudes you even have to slightly worry about are the ones with uzis on that map

[noble pasture]

Didnt he canonically get sentenced to 18 years?

[real pulsar]

if it was like an online larper who played shooters and used reddit I could see it

[shy tulip]

The artwork for him has been around forever, so I doubt it

That is the irony of alpha male crap

[astral warren]

That sounds about right for having CP and shooting at/shooting cops in California.

[frail pier]

I R O N Y

[visual cosmos]

get botted idiot

[noble pasture]

My head canon is that he gets killed first week in prison

[real pulsar]

the best is when you shoot his Webcam the chat is funny

[frail pier]

I Y
RON

[astral warren]

The bot doesn't like my proposing the question, has any alpha male ever had consensual intercourse?

[noble pasture]

That's what kid diddlers get

[astral warren]

I didn't know you could do this.

[dry lava]

For the DLC, do all participants need to own it to play in a multi-player game, or just the host?

[frail pier]

Or becomes a walking flashlight

Minus the a add an e

[visual cosmos]

You're thinking about sigmas, alphas can't do that, it's not in their genes to respec whammen

[astral warren]

What about gammas?

[shy tulip]

Read the pins in #💬general-discussion

[astral warren]

Or, perhaps, the rarest of them all, the DEWY MALE!

[real pulsar]

a nice map in this game is the beach house one, sad story

[visual cosmos]

Btw, why can't I cosplay my local PD and execute the CP creator guy?

[prime wing]

#💬general-discussion message

[astral warren]

Your local PD sounds unprofessional.

[dry lava]

Thanks!

[frail pier]

He's actually that. He's playing an fps when you raid him. Like him going berserk I get. Just the 8 plus other dudes who just are agro as all fuck.

[noble pasture]

Judgement is worse than death

[visual cosmos]

Some branches of the military police do not take lightly to grape and maps

[astral warren]

Most people don't understand this. To die is easy, to face consequences for one's actions is not.

[noble pasture]

Gang territory, they hate cops

[frail pier]

It's only illegal because they're siphoning power or because crypto mining is illegal?

[noble pasture]

The streamer was in cahoots with the gang by doing crypto farming

[astral warren]

Having been in the military doesn't mean you're judge, jury, and executioner. If you are in the military, and join the police force, you should probably be horrified by how loose your ROE was compared to when you were in foreign lands.

[frail pier]

Ahh so crypto is illegal. No wonder LS went to shit lol.

[astral warren]

I very much dislike police myself, but I'm still not taking the room temperature challenge over some crypto just because I don't like police, lmao. I'll let the chubby white kid take the fall, and I'm gonna dip.

[frail pier]

Why even raid those apartments with the crypto? Or did we get a whole warrant for an apartment building

[real pulsar]

prank call turned out to have crypto mining

[astral warren]

Apartments are a big grey area depending on state and municipality, from what I've seen.

[frail pier]

See that's what I wanna know

[noble pasture]

Warrant was for the streamer, he called 911 saying he shot his mom (lie) and that he will shoot his brother (also a lie)

[shy tulip]

The call is a fake call about an active shooter, they'd clear the entire area to be safe. They just limit the amount of play room so it isn't too much with the barred doors

[noble pasture]

Streamer effectively shat on his money making scheme by calling 911

[astral warren]

Some places go, "okay, you have a warrant to room number whatever the fuck, but you have to traverse the building and set up properly, so you can go wherever you want lawfully for the purpose of serving the warrant", and other places are like, "I swear to god if you dirty the communal carpet in the hallway leading to the stairs I'll have you drawn and quartered!"

Then again, this was a call about an active shooter, so none of that really applies.

[astral warren]

If it's fake why do I hear shooting when the mission starts? Are they just blowing some drywall away?

[viral bone]

Nice, DLC is incoming and it's only 10$. I wouldn't mind receiving these DLCs every once in a while for 10$ with new maps.

[shy tulip]

It's literally his video game

Idk why it's that loud but it is

[astral warren]

His video game is loud enough to be heard outside of the building from the parking lot?

[viral bone]

Much better than CODs 4 maps for 30$

[astral warren]

I would much sooner believe the active shooter ate all of the bodies than his video game is that loud, lmao.

Bones, hair, teeth, nails, and all.

[noble pasture]

The gun shots were realistic

Can't blame Swat to think he was going balistic

[real pulsar]

also just the threat alone

[astral warren]

Where is the audio system that produced this sound?

[real pulsar]

his TV room big speakers

[frail pier]

Okay so that makes a bit more sense. I didn't think they'd just rush all the apartments like that irl. But I've never had to be around SWAT thankfully.

[noble pasture]

In his room, shit was just really loud

[astral warren]

I still am not buying it.

It is not THAT loud, I promise.

This game has a huge asspull narrative problem.

[frail pier]

Making crypto illegal still L... I'll be damned if the government gonna tell me I can't farm doge coin with my electric bill that they don't pay.

[real pulsar]

the issue was not the gunshots it was the threat of killing his brother

[astral warren]

Again, his brother seems awfully concerned about him.

[frail pier]

Boy speedruns on this level usually end with that dude getting domed by swat so GG.

[astral warren]

The mission is not well thought out, and very poorly written, and does not feel believable.

[real pulsar]

this Def a weaker mission

[astral warren]

The weakest mission. I'm ignoring the chronological shitshow that is all of the other ones, too, this one just doesn't belong, makes no sense, and is shit.

[real pulsar]

the beach house one was great tho

[noble pasture]

Well yeah, but it's a catalyst for CP ring ark

[frail pier]

Yeh^

[real pulsar]

the type of missions I like to see more of

[noble pasture]

Could also get reworked later

[frail pier]

Which leads to mindjot then volls house

[astral warren]

Yes, but that entire ark is nonsensical, because it's chronologically out of order, making that mission EVEN MORE POINTLESS AND FRUSTRATING.

[real pulsar]

the spider first

[frail pier]

U right I'm wrong

I forgot that fucker

[noble pasture]

Well no, its streamer, spider, data center and then valley

[astral warren]

That is the order it is in in the game, but it doesn't work chronologically.

[real pulsar]

honestly the spider mindjot and voll would have been fine the streamer was not needed

[frail pier]

Then how'd they find out about the CP?

[noble pasture]

Why?

[real pulsar]

mindjot

i thought that's what it was before

it found on mindjot servers

[frail pier]

Nah I thought 23mb is how they got wind of it and investigated further?

Which lead to those other missions ending with voll?

[real pulsar]

i meant before they added the streamer

[frail pier]

Idk if there was any pointers to it before? Idek anymore

[astral warren]

George Brixley and data center are out of order, the SWAT was omniscient and just happened to know.

[noble pasture]

Ohhhh, so dsta before spider?

[astral warren]

It actually ruins the entire narrative.

[astral warren]

If you're going to include a topic as sensitive as CP in a video game, at least make the narrative make fucking sense.

They just wanted to get edgy trend points w/o actually backing it up with a chronologically coherent narrative.

[noble pasture]

I think LSPD found Spider by chance, same as Streamer

[astral warren]

The information is gathered out of order, read all of the mission briefings.

[noble pasture]

Kids going missing after going to a talent agency sticks out

[astral warren]

You go places you wouldn't know about before the others, even the ones that aren't sus, like a stock standard data center.

[noble pasture]

Wait, Streamer-Data Center-Spider also makes no sense

[frail pier]

Are we about to go down a rabbit hole....

[noble pasture]

Streamer had the cp in physical copies

Most likely bought from Voll

[astral warren]

Exactly my point. The game is complete dogshit from a narrative standpoint, while including edgy topics just to be trendy for no reason other than to be controversial without really doing anything with it.

[noble pasture]

Streamer-Spider does make sense

[visual cosmos]

It feels like they got the points first and then will add the "connecting the dots" later, the PD is filled with rooms with purpose but never used

[astral warren]

if you imagine a lot of things that didn't happen, yeah.

[frail pier]

Idk how this dude is typing while his balls hurt...

[noble pasture]

Or or Streamer squeked

Talked where he got the pics from (Spider)

[astral warren]

Exactly, if you imagine a bunch of shit that DIDN'T HAPPEN, the story makes perfect sense.

[visual cosmos]

would be cool to watch the interrogation and see him shitting himself out of fear... If we catch him alive during the mission, ofc

[astral warren]

Another issue with the narrative, you don't always capture certain suspects alive.

How do we acquire the information, assuming the firsthand source has taken ill with lead poisoning?

[visual cosmos]

That's why key information is acquired through world interactables and not suspects

[real pulsar]

I don't think what you do in misis9ns are cannon

[noble pasture]

Easy, make S rank outcome as the Canon one

[astral warren]

So the gameplay is pointless to the narrative, and may as well be separated from it entirely?

[real pulsar]

that too

[real pulsar]

games are like this

[noble pasture]

By capturing all suspects alive and well we get 100% intel

[frail pier]

Stop the killing, stop the dying

[astral warren]

I can't think of a single other game where you can completely ignore the story and it makes no difference.

[silk isle]

streamer - CP found with connections to mindjot. he can make his own physical. datacenter - go to the heart of the operation and find source of CP. brixley/voll - the sources. i think some mission restructuring from a narration standpoint makes sense but not in a gameplay sense, as the spider is a fairly easy map when it comes to CQB tactics and considerations. the description for the spider even mentions that info was from datacenter

[real pulsar]

payday 2 has a cannon ending, hitman has a cannon ending gta has a cannon ending

[urban walrus]

Levels are organized in difficulty https://www.reddit.com/r/ReadyOrNotGame/comments/1bhy6ff/comment/kvhq1wn/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button

[astral warren]

But this game doesn't need to have an "ending".

[noble pasture]

It doesnt

[visual cosmos]

Every game allows you to "ignore the story", just don't pay attention to it and skip all

[silk isle]

i dont think police departments get a happily ever after my friends

[astral warren]

This game won't confuse me if I ignore the story, it tells me I'm the good guy with other good guys stopping bad guys right away, because I'm the police, so I have to be the protagonist. Even HL1 would confuse me if I ignored the story, why do all these scientists just stand there and let me kill them? What's up with that, huh?

[silk isle]

ALSO remember 23mb happens because he killed his mother and took his brother hostage, not because of the CP. thats how the rabbit hole started

[real pulsar]

yeah

[astral warren]

You should be confused by a game that has a story if you ignore it, otherwise it doesn't REALLY have a story, it has a story that has been pinned onto it at some point in development, with very weak and sad attempts to implement it into the gameplay, creating a kind of uncanny valley effect within the game, where the narrative is too story like to work in gameplay.

[real pulsar]

no

[astral warren]

His mother is alive in the mission. She's the chick in the bathroom you arrest.

[real pulsar]

I like the choice of listening to a story or not

[astral warren]

"I SWEAR TO GOD IF YOU LAY A HAND ON EITHER OF MY SONS!" or something to that effect.

[real pulsar]

to have to engage in a story to enjoy the game is not good design for a game like this IMO

[silk isle]

regardless, that is the reason LSPD is called

[frail pier]

Story or Not? That's the question for Ready or Not....

[visual cosmos]

Please, if you go into ANY mission without the briefing you'll be completely lost.

[astral warren]

No I won't. I shoot at the people who shoot at me, simple as.

[silk isle]

^

[astral warren]

If that concept confuses you, I'm really sorry, friend.

[real pulsar]

story stuff is a side thing I personally like that I don't have to watch a 30 minute fucking cutscene

[frail pier]

That part

[boreal egret]

that stuff aside void has balaclavas in almost every promo pic but none in game

[real pulsar]

it's comming I think

[boreal egret]

hopefully

[visual cosmos]

Then you don't want the narrative form the game, you're comparing narrative driven games to whatever they were trying to do here. It's a pointless argument

[amber dock]

Balaclavas are present in Void's screenshots for home invasion

[real pulsar]

yippee

[visual cosmos]

There's plenty of room to improve the narrative, lots of cool ways to expand how it plays out, right now it's as shallow as going from mission to mission assuming they're connected

[boreal egret]

cant wait for a new pistol

[real pulsar]

I wish we could color our guns

[silk isle]

i think the mission structuring is more for difficulty not story. especially with how friendly NPCs unlock their abilities as you complete missions. from a gameplay standpoint it doesnt make sense to put 2 of the easiest maps AFTER datacenter. connect the story dots in your head yourself from the briefings and environmental storytelling

[real pulsar]

makes sense to me

[civic zinc]

[boreal egret]

new vest aswell???

[real pulsar]

nah

looks like the old one to me

[civic zinc]

thats just one of the variants of the default one

[amber dock]

That one looks old

[boreal egret]

damn

[amber dock]

Doesn't mean there won't be one though

Maybe they just didn't want to show it off yet.

[silk isle]

focusing on missions, weapons, and enemy AI would be in best interest of VOID as the modding community is strong enough to have any plate carrier, helmet, etc. you want, and most people will prefer to go that route.

[frail pier]

Idky I feel like some dudes just gonna put the DLC on Nexus at least once.

[prime wing]

thats a hard ban

by nexus i think

when reported

[frail pier]

Yeah no doubt

My heart sunk for a moment. I was like wtf BRO

[mild latch]

AIs have a problems but this ain't one.
You should check out the channel "Police Activity", folks charging at cops when they have no chance of surviving or taking one down with them is far from uncommon

[proven blade]

can you fire people and still get the hermit

[shy tulip]

No

[proven blade]

shit

i hope that loser is still in the roster

yay

[summer agate]

the dlc reminds me a lot of post-katrina

[proven blade]

because like

it is post katrina

[summer agate]

katrina didn’t hit los angeles

[proven blade]

ehhh you get the point

[noble pasture]

Katrina hit New Orleans, not California

[summer agate]

yeah

[summer agate]

yeah - thing is though the events seem heavily inspired as a modern hurricane katrina, and the maps (aside from city skyline) looks somewhat inspired by new orleans architecture

from what i’ve seen at least

[noble pasture]

No, its inspired by Los Angeles

[summer agate]

K

[amber dock]

Which map looks like New Orleans? Just wondering

Or are you talking about an upcoming map on the steam page?

[summer agate]

tbh i didn’t look too far into the trailer and i thought the residential area it panned over looked like new orleans “suburbs” but i’m pretty sure architecture (modern architecture) is similar between the two

[errant thorn]

whats going to be a price for home invasion dlc?

[summer agate]

i’m bias towards new orleans just because im a resident

[shy tulip]

Read the announcement

[summer agate]

$10

[errant thorn]

couldn't you send me a link? I just can't find any price. And when I open steam page, I don't see a preorder option

[shy tulip]

#announcements

[proven blade]

the taser is so bad bro omg

[errant thorn]

thanks.

[proven blade]

i literally fucking reloaded its ass and it didnt work

[dry lava]

There's a reason folk like the beanbag shotgun 😁

[shy tulip]

taser 2 good actually, needs a range nerf

[tidal zinc]

do we think the new "dlc" is worth?

[misty island]

I would add 3 charges and redce range significantly

[quick jacinth]

eh, the taser is fine where it is right now

As it is the only non lethal sidearm you can use it to peak and fire around corners that you can't with other non lethals

[misty island]

Yes, I am hyped. And you get like 90%% for free.

[tidal zinc]

how?

[misty island]

I would amke a hotkey for the taaser, so I do not take my wedges.

[tidal zinc]

i want it but dont wanna spend dlc money when theirs mods yk

[misty island]

10 are only for 3 maps and some cosmetics.

[misty island]

Nexus bans paid content, if reported.

[tidal zinc]

im confused

[misty island]

On what exatly?

[tidal zinc]

you said something about 90% free wym by that

sorry btw not trying to be difficult just woke up

[misty island]

You get weapons and some cosmetics for free. Alse, only host needs to buy DLC

[tidal zinc]

ohhh i thought you would not be able to play dlc unless you have the map i dont host half the time so im okay with that

[misty island]

I do not know about achievements. If they will stay tthe same or not.

[tidal zinc]

im not really worried bout that

[gaunt gale]

The only cosmetic you get for free is the Balaclava

[magic sedge]

^

[misty island]

Oh, well. I tought not only that from earlier chat.

[misty island]

@tidal zinc I lied

[tidal zinc]

i want the balaclva so perfect

[misty island]

Will there be customization ? Like with loadouts.

[shy tulip]

I assume you mean presets?

[misty island]

Oh, yes. I somehow removed the word "preset".

[magic sedge]

Yeah outfit presets really should get added sooner or later. Gets slightly annoying swapping my drip for the occasion. Especially for AI Team.

[proven blade]

I’m not going full lethal though

[main oracle]

Dows anyone know if the dlc will break existing replays?

[proven blade]

My cowardly officers “waa waaa he died “ to get stressed

[magic sedge]

"WAAA MY TEAMMATE GOT SHOT POINT BLANK IN THE HEAD WITH A AK-47 IN FRONT OF ME WAAA" like get over it bro

[proven blade]

Nah they don’t even die since I’m doing hermit

[shy tulip]

I assume it may because of the engine transition?

[main oracle]

Yeah that was what I was curious about. If the change could affect them.

[whole garnet]

My now daily message of Seasoned suspects.

[stable kernel]

They save in their own proprietary format, so it's entirely up to VOID whether they work. There is no particular reason why they can't, but they also might not be out of the box compatible.

[main oracle]

Ok ty

[prime wing]

i would upload those replays elsewhere just in case

[magic sedge]

Yeah or just copy em into a new folder.

[split jewel]

hey guys will be the dlc available for supporters or need to buy extra?

[shy tulip]

It is free for SE owners

[split jewel]

thanks!

[timid quest]

real question is, will it be unlockable with mods just like SE stuff?

[shy tulip]

No, because mods that unlock SE stuff will be taken down from mod platforms and result in bans

[timid quest]

[hollow citrus]

Supporter edition stuff is real OG exclusive shit

[smoky junco]

hm i maked port and used only a taser, shield and flashbangs and got not the archievement. What am doing wrong?

[honest owl]

HAHHAHHAA, YOU PAID FOR SUPPORTER EDITION HAHAHA, YOU GOT BORDERLINE SCAMMED LMFAOOO!!!!! AHAHAHAHAAAA

[magic sedge]

Butt-hurt level 54

[river tide]

you can’t even hold out something that isn’t apart of the achievement

[hollow citrus]

I got scammed by supporting the devs

Naaaah that's crazy tho

[magic sedge]

fr tho

its called supporter edition, what did you expect along with it? a kiss? lol.

[night pasture]

Getting that OST with it is like a lil kiss from the music man so yes I DID.

[magic sedge]

nah he right

[hollow citrus]

That's, my point man. That's no dlc it was charity

[misty island]

You can not use quick throw and you need to hit couple of enemies with bash and bangs. No shield. You can bash tied enemies, too.

[hollow citrus]

I haven't even seen that, where can I see that.

[night pasture]

it isn't out yet buttttttt

it's around 3 hours long(?) anddddddd

includes cut tracks andddd SE owners get a longer one the one with cut tracks shit

gotta find the tracklist...

[hollow citrus]

That feels like more than a smooch. That's whole ass kiss here.
The tan night vision was kinda slap on the face tho ngl
Unique but meh

[smoky junco]

Can i bash a enemy who gives up?

[misty island]

Yes, that the way I did it.

[smoky junco]

Ok. Thanks. I trys it again. Does the Shield matter?

[misty island]

Yes. No shield.

[smoky junco]

Ok then i takes the flashbang launcher with me

[honest owl]

I mean if you bought supporter edition to support the devs and not for the early access than I'd say you got your money's worth.

[hollow citrus]

Both of course lol. But early access taken away doesn't make me all that mad though.

[smoky junco]

Flashbang launcher is ok?

[hollow citrus]

I wanted early access only to play with the boys anyways, now they don't have it either

[misty island]

No

[honest owl]

Woulda made me furious, it would've shown me the devs don't actually care about their supporters, or at the very least keeping their word.

[smoky junco]

Ok. Then just taser and flashbangs

[hollow citrus]

Idk man, being free labor beta test slave wasn't really that much exciting apart from spoiling all work in progress content before it's polished

[honest owl]

Just the months and months of zero updates was wild, then they push out a DLC for a game that's barely functioning as a SWAT shooter.

[timid quest]

bingo

[hollow citrus]

They fuck up on deadlines multiple times that was upsetting, them taking time is chill for me

As long as the game won't have actual replayability it will live from update to update so no point rushing

[timid quest]

maybe RoN was the friends we made along the way

[hollow citrus]

It was, untill those friends stopped playing it cuz they got bored

[timid quest]

only way not to get bored is to play the club map

😏

[hollow citrus]

I heard one dude speedrun maps for weeks to get few seconds better score. That's what misery looks like

[timid quest]

u missed my point

"Ready or Not" get's a new meaning on that map, god bless whoever's idea that was

[hollow citrus]

My AK is sure as fuck ready lol.

[timid quest]

damn bro u is crazy

[hollow citrus]

I been popping those suspects since game came out in early access, I ain't playin'

[timid quest]

suspects be suspecting

[hollow citrus]

Suspects be suspicious,

[timid quest]

nono, they be 6 feet below

[hollow citrus]

Cause of death: pulled up a gun on 5 SWAT officers looking at him

[timid quest]

cause of death is existing

[stone bay]

Despite the fact Eli looks old as fuck he is born and 1989 and as of now he would only be 33 Years Old

[hollow citrus]

You age fast when you shoot dudes every day

[stone bay]

Given how much of a terrible state Los Suenos is in right now that "Every day" seems less like an over exaggeration

[sour furnace]

Hey quick question, are the subtitles still blatantly autogenerated?

[stone bay]

Yes

For example, Officer Swan's "Going in!" voiceline is subtitled as "Go again!"

[shy tulip]

I believe there was an update to em to improve them, I expect the next update will improve what's left

[sour furnace]

man...

why are we getting DLC right now when the base game is still utterly borked?

[stable kernel]

My boy George M. will no longer be deployed (RIP)

[sour furnace]

we're talkin bout Los Suenos bein in a bad state rn, but look at the GAME man

[hollow citrus]

I could argue that it was broken at 1.0 release but right now all is chill.

[sour furnace]

I still can't play at 1080p with any respectable frame rate, but I guess sure.

[hexed leaf]

Whats a respectable frame rate

[shy tulip]

The free update along side the DLC will include the UE5 transition which should help with optimization and reduce stuttering

[shy tulip]

Most gamers would say 300+ or bad game

[sour furnace]

solid 40-60 at a minimum

that's playable

[stone bay]

Good!

[hollow citrus]

That's your pc being bad dude to be honest, I never had that problem ever since I bought 3060. Before I played 900p on 1050ti 60+ frames

[stone bay]

Wait fuck no its 35 Years old

[sour furnace]

I have a 2070, but the stutters and frame drops is just wild.

[hexed leaf]

My frame rates are fine (dips below 30 fps are rare) and my game is heavily modded too

[hollow citrus]

I honestly don't know why it's so bad. I have game on SSD and got 16 gigs of ram. Maybe try turning off replay recording in settings. That takes a lot of performance

[boreal egret]

just checked again, no. dx11

[proven blade]

God I hate voll house so much ch

God bless send a MOAB onto the residents of 1965 whatever something LS

[cobalt sail]

Whats the music for the new gameplay trailer? God damn

[cyan geyser]

How much will the dlc be?

[night pasture]

10 usd

[cyan geyser]

Really?

[shy tulip]

#announcements

[night pasture]

yes

[proven blade]

How many maps

[cyan geyser]

bruh I’m a dumbass mb

[shy tulip]

3 maps and a cosmetic set I believe

the rest is all in the free update

[proven blade]

2.5 dollars per map???? Satisfactory!!

Probably like 2.25 rather

6.75 for maps, 3.25 for cosmetics

@shy tulip will badges get reset or nah cuz rn I’m trying to get hermit and Medal of Honor

[shy tulip]

Badges?

[proven blade]

Like will you have to complete 1.1 maps to finish them

[shy tulip]

I don't think we're getting more maps outside of the DLC, so I dunno

[proven blade]

In the medal of valor, you need to get S on every map, does that apply to the new ones? Or are those seperate, the new ones

[shy tulip]

No idea tbh

I just look at chat and slap bad people

[amber dock]

Medal of valor is 18 base maps so Gas to port, there is a new achievement for S ranking all new DLC MAPS

[proven blade]

Ok :) also I have no mercy for terrorists so basically I’m just doing a medal of valor, the hermit, and all of the C+ maps

AND IRONMAN MODE achievment

[tired sail]

Yo, are the trailers officers present in-game? Can't say I've ever seen them roam around after completion

[amber dock]

I believe still they are sorta buggy. They only show up in practice mode. Unless it’s been changed

[jovial dew]

I cannot figure out how to use splines on replay mode for the life of me

i don't know if im doing something wrong or if they're broken but im starting to feel a little dumb

[unique lava]

new dlc

thank god for the supporter edition

[sick pine]

@stone bay WHEN ARE WE PLAYING READY OR NOT WTF

[stone bay]

idk...

[sick pine]

wow......

[stone bay]

if my laptop can handle playing with at least 1 player maybe

i can run the game with ai just fine for some reason but in multiplayer it goes complete shit

[sick pine]

hmm thats weird

mayb its bc you're hosting idk

[north steeple]

We need a mode where you are a citizen in say a grocery store setting doing normal things until a gunman comes in and starts shooting, or starts a robbery and you are concealed carrying to defend yourself + others if possible, same with being a civilian in your home and hearing people break in and now you have to defend your home. It’d be a cool twist. Could call it off duty mode or something like that. No backup, just you and your gun and your training.

[amber dock]

I think that is more for modders to do not the devs

But is a cool concept for sure

[shy tulip]

it's all fun and games until people 100% turn into the shooter because "muh memes"

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/808613000683454487/1167181786237915247/caption.gif?ex=654d31bf&is=653abcbf&hm=2926db1df0e1ad03674f958b98493dd184c7df0bc274bf4c0e9260126b796f97&

[ionic gale]

[sick pine]

this shit died out so quickly im not even surprised

[ionic gale]

hey male humans and female humans

[sick pine]

hello

[stone bay]

cant find it anywhere but does anyone know a possible price for the new dlc

[sick pine]

10 usd

[ionic gale]

10 buck?

I was kinda worried it was gonna be over priced but

[stone bay]

srsly??

[shy tulip]

It's the very last sentence in the latest announcement

[stone bay]

I thought it was gonna be like 40

[ionic gale]

Me too

[stone bay]

mb didnt see that

[ionic gale]

But yeah 10 bucks isnt too bad

I can piss away 10 bucks ig

Idk if im just used to seeing overpriced dlcs but 10 bucks is reasonable yee

what about bug fixes and stuffs?

Man I wonder if there will be even more officer customizion too ;0

[shy tulip]

The free part of the update will include bug fixes and QOL, yes

[ionic gale]

YAUY

[fallen plume]

Hey I don't know if this has been answered. But its the new cosmetic Black Multicam, the screenshot on the steam page looks sick

[ionic gale]

were there any specifics or are the details not clear rn?

[shy tulip]

Not that I remember

[ionic gale]

ah alright

ig we gotta wait for July 23rd

The FN 509 is a gun that wasn't on my Bingo card lol

its a simple 9mm pistol but i do like how it looks

[thick narwhal]

Wait.. $10 for a new map and some new things? Something mods can do? Or is it the story we're paying for?

[ionic gale]

idk yet

ima see then changelog rq

or idk we havent gotten the full cahngelog yet

I hope the AI is toned down

You all prob are sick of hearing this over over and over but idk its an issue

It barely seems like a swat shooter with every enemy firing at you with the aim of 10 Navy SEALS combined

[covert aurora]

https://tenor.com/view/ah-shit-here-we-go-again-ah-shit-cj-gta-gta-san-andreas-gif-13933485

[ionic gale]

Make the AI not surrender too much that the game is boring with only arrests

BUT also make the AI not into John Wick forcing you to play it as a regular shooter killing EVERYONE

It needs balance but hey, its easier said than done

[shy tulip]

$10 for three new maps and a cosmetic, if you don't want em, you don't have to buy em. Just don't expect random lobbies to be able to play the same modded maps as you

[ionic gale]

I would love to go and do arrests but the suspects act like terrorists that have nothing to lose

At least this type of stubbornness would make sense for the members of The Hand but low level druggies are just never surrendering and killing my boys ;-;

[covert aurora]

What i would like to see is a slight score increase to incapped suspects, cause i mean their still alive and arrestable

[mental fable]

Ig we need to delete all the mods we have when the update drop

[ionic gale]

I can run the game in safe mode prob

[shy tulip]

Yes

x2

[ionic gale]

I see why ppl compareb the SWAT suspect AI since even the most toughest of terrorists can have abreaking point

BUT SWAT 4 is a 2005 game so ist not exactly fair to compare the AI to a modern game but i beg to differ

[covert aurora]

Its still similar in context

[ionic gale]

Yeah it is

[covert aurora]

So you could compare it

[ionic gale]

Yeah i get why ppl comapre it

I bought SWAT 4 recently and the suspects and civis are actualy somewhat better than RON

Its def NOT perfect due to the age of the game but still my point stands

I just hope RON's suspects value their lives more instead of getting killed left and right by me and my men

You could even scale the morale and stuff and their alertness based on the suspects you are up agaist

Terrorists and other heavy dudes could be harder to get to surrender while low level druggies and others could be easier

Ofc there's need to be balance and it needs to be handled to not make the missions too repetitive

anywys thats my rant over, wut do you gusy think?

[umbral oar]

Yes

[gaunt cove]

if he has a 1/2 who has the pack, if the other person doesn't we can both still play the maps

[wispy mural]

Nah, I’d shoot to kill

[dreamy garden]

Is the mental health thing just broken

I went through every single mission ironman and it never left content even after using buckshot benelli for certain maps

[shy tulip]

Works as far as I've seen, you sure you weren't getting arrests

[jolly verge]

it's depends on killing/arresting alive

[dreamy garden]

I was arresting everyone but I kind of killed a lot of suspects

[shy tulip]

Arrests offset a lot, mainly suspects

[dreamy garden]

no dead civvies obviously im not edgy

[shy tulip]

especially if you avoid killing civs

So you could say you.. didn't have a skill issue

[dreamy garden]

Well I kind of shot to wound before they could aimbot me

I was sick of dying on hide and seek to a random one tap around the last 3 suspects

[jolly verge]

arresting civi heals only 0.03 stress
killing suspect gain 0.04 - 0.08 stress
arresting them alive heal - 0.08
if officer kill his stress gain will multiplied by 1.3
that pretty much whole mechanic you need to know about

[dreamy garden]

odd

what about dismemberment, I thought that was a multiplier

[jolly verge]

all that stuff can be modified by S.B.A.G.S. and Moral Officer traits

[jolly verge]

do nothing

[dreamy garden]

armorer/nutritionist/veteran/whatever the overall convincing factor trait is

[dreamy garden]

I just remember someone somewhere some time ago mentioning shotguns as a whole have a sort of effect on mental health,

[jolly verge]

if you take 2 negotiators it's will be way easier to take suspects alive, because your and your swat yelling will have 50% chance to make them surrender

[dreamy garden]

Oh the negotiators stack?

[jolly verge]

the only thing that matter if you kill/incap or taking them alive

[unique lava]

thats why i just park then outside

[jolly verge]

yeap, all traits stack, except armorer and kicker

[unique lava]

except port hokan because trying to solo that map sucks

[dreamy garden]

try it S rank with 2 players

I did it with my friend but meleed a civ on accident because my chat was b and melee was v
I have since rebinded

and that civ was so conveniently after bring order to chaos was fulfilled

[late stirrup]

What's the cost for the new DLC?

[jolly verge]

10$

[late stirrup]

fr? thats pretty dam good

[jolly verge]

yeah, you can check this#announcements message

[late stirrup]

is that USD?

[jolly verge]

usd and euro

[late stirrup]

sweet

[unique lava]

damn, what costed me was not closing the container door

dont know how i forgot i just blanked out from the dialogue and just ended the mission lmao

[halcyon elm]

What's the story of the new dlc

[noble pasture]

From what we scraped a Huricane grade 5 hit Los Suenos. So looters took their chances

LSPD responds to 3 calls

The actual home invasion is only on one map, Lawmaker. Suspects take hostage a Lawmaker's family

[stone stump]

lowkey crazy that it's realistic

[simple surge]

for the new dlc must everyone have it to play together or just the host?

[noble pasture]

#🎨ron-screenshots-and-art message
Finally S ranked Greased Palms

[noble pasture]

just the host

[simple surge]

cool, thx

[noble pasture]

Dont ever let bots get the Bean Bag Shotgun, they miss half their shots

[ionic gale]

And a successful shot is usually a damn beanbag round to the head

Have any of you bought swat 4?

I bought it from GOG recently and with the elite force mod I’ve been having a good tim with it

[noble pasture]

I tried once and GOG wouldnt take my money

[ionic gale]

Ah, it may be old but it’s a good game

Obviously, if you know ready or not, you should probably know the existence of SWAT 4 lol

There’s a reason why this game is considered the spiritual successor of that now kind of dead series of a 2005 game

In that context, it was ahead of its time tbh

[noble pasture]

I just found the suspect on greased Palms with highest fucking morale

He took 7 bean bag shots to the chest before he got arrested

At least 3 fractured ribs if not more

[ionic gale]

The AI is just too aggressive and too vigilant ;-;

I know that I went on a rant about this a a few hours ago, but idk, it’s something that really draws back the game and I have a friend who is considering buying the game for himself sometime

[noble pasture]

Hit Adams in the balls with bean bag

[ionic gale]

🇦

To me, the AI is sort of John Wicky to the point that I sort of asked my friend to maybe wait on buying the game until it gets fixed or at least download a mod or something

I don’t know if I just had a few bad runs, but I feel like that the AI is finally starting to piss me off a bit 😢

When like 3 dudes including me, literally gets sniped by the building next to us in the hotel Mission, it gets you a little fumed

Mind you it was the rooftop insertion and we were just at the starting stairs

[azure lily]

BRO

I FOUND ONE BOMB ON ELEPHANT WHERE IN THE FUCK CAN THE OTHER SPAWN?

bro elephant is just not possible unless you know where the bombs can spawn

I've been to the whole building and never found other bonbs. Just 1

[ionic gale]

I usually find them on the café area, in that big classroom with the science presentation and the computer area

[rich cobalt]

some spawn in the science labs, some spawn on the stairs, and some spawn in the large classroom with the projector

the cafe noir also has a chance to spawn the bomb

[azure lily]

I've been to the classroom with the projector

aight Ill know that for later thx

[dreamy garden]

Lately it doesnt seem to be too hard

I guess the ai is a little bit stupid

as a typical criminal is... but thats besides the point

[rich cobalt]

just yesterday i was domed immediately i entered the parking lot

then again i was strolling around in the open like i was taking a walk in the park

[dreamy garden]

I mean yeah that kind of happens in every mission, theres an odd chance or streak of bullshit going on that you physically cannot explain

[rich cobalt]

every tour in afghanistan:

[dreamy garden]

ok yeah thats an accurate thing to say

[rich cobalt]

bahaha

[royal nimbus]

they can be in that corner table lounge with the 2 story windows that’s adjacent to the projector room too

[noble pasture]

They still injured everyone in my squad

[light cove]

When are we adding loot boxes ?

[tacit gull]

they're confirmed coming with the battle royale update

[gaunt gale]

After the dating sim mode though

[vivid crescent]

I've played basically every SWAT game aside from the first

Since that one is a highly linear boring FMV game from the looks of it. (The game gives you a game over for trying to skip dialogue for instance)

[covert aurora]

i have never played any swat games, always wanted to try them

[limpid leaf]

is there gonna be any new death animations? in the new update?

[lofty prism]

you guys ever try early rainbow six games?

[covert aurora]

i played rainbow six on PS1

[lofty prism]

same

[silver palm]

You're gonna mention rainbow six Vegas

[lofty prism]

there was this like museum map of some kind, i think it was the first installment of rainbow six

[silver palm]

I see it in you

[lofty prism]

no i’m talking about rogue spear and all of that

[silver palm]

Alright I'm gonna have to use unauthorized force after this

[lofty prism]

huh

[silver palm]

I for some reason thought you were gonna bring up Six Vegas

[lofty prism]

oh

[vivid crescent]

Sadly only got to play the original and Raven Shield

Ubisoft doesn't have the expansion or Rogue Spear available.

[lofty prism]

rainbow six 3 really reminded me of swat kind of

[tacit gull]

I played rainbow six 3 and it does a ton of cool stuff

the amount of weapons and tools you have even in vanilla is mental

[lofty prism]

agreed

[tacit gull]

on the other hand though the shooting kinda sucked due to the ridiculous aim penalty you had for any slight movement

slightly looking to the right would mean your shots could end up behind you

[vivid crescent]

I used auto-aim in that game ngl, if the AI cheats so do I

Iron Wrath adding the Howa was cool

[tacit gull]

Even with auto aim your operator could just miss a point blank shot due to RNG

Cause the accuracy for some weapons was just awful

[lofty prism]

i never understood original ghost recon

[vivid crescent]

That's part of the reason I wish Ubi didn't abandon the old style of tactical shooters, I don't mind a few but they kinda used a bit too much arbitrary restrictions to make up for the dumb AI

[vivid crescent]

The game where all enemies become aimbot headshots the instant you are in any stance higher than prone

[tacit gull]

I was shocked to see the AI could surrender in ravenshield lmao

It doesn't do anything, it's just a cool interaction to keep you on your feet

[covert aurora]

tho my favorite rainbow six game was probably blackarrow

[tacit gull]

And the squadmate mechanics were insanely cool

I only wish the pre planning didn't feel ancient, such a cool concept but it's so unintuitive

[covert aurora]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[lofty prism]

i miss when r6 siege tried to be realistic

[noble pasture]

What role will the 2 mag pistol be?

MP17 PDW I mean, if its secondary you could use it at same time as the new AR

[jolly verge]

it's primary

[noble pasture]

A semi automatic pistol in primary?!

[jolly verge]

yes, why not

[noble pasture]

Did devs say anything about fixing Swat AI?

They are clearly not performing 100%

Them clearing a room with their backs sometimes, makes me have a stroke

Whats up with the subpar room clearing? Swat AI getting bad code?

I once had 3 swat AI stop clearing 2 meters from the entry point, 1 swat AI keep clearing with his back and get killed

[jolly verge]

will see in patch notes

[noble pasture]

Ironman would be impossible with current swat AI and not able to nullify missions

[noble pasture]

Give swat AI the new pdw pistol? I dont supose they have armor on dlc maps so maybe JHP?

[carmine zinc]

playing ABBA while also playing Elephant feels vile

[jolly verge]

Im pretty sure some suspects will wear armor

[noble pasture]

Hmm, jhp should still be good no?

[urban walrus]

From the FAQ in the pinned messages of https://discord.com/channels/310075021882294272/452425840274309120, there will be AI tweaks, but we don't know which one will get those, either 1 or 2 or all (civilian, suspect, swat).

[noble pasture]

I dont expect military grade armor

Maybe 3A or 3 at worst

[jolly verge]

it's really depend on ammo, the only JHP pistol caliber that can pen soft armor L2 is 5.7x28 and 4.6x30

they also might will rebalance something

[lofty prism]

swat ai man, i made them clear a room and they all had their backs faced towards the room

[azure lily]

How many bombs can spawn? Only 2 right?

[noble pasture]

Yes

[azure lily]

Aight

So the only room left is cafe noir. The problem is I have no idea how to get there. Plus my idea is first to defuse the bombs and then clear the whole buidling

Fuck. That wasn't the computer room

OKAY WHERE IS THE COMPUTER ROOM IT'S APROACHING ZERO

I exploded

bro I have no fucking idea where is the computer room

[covert aurora]

what level?

oh!

collage, i believe its alittle passed the cafe on the same floor @jolly verge correct me if i am wrong

[broken ledge]

I went into valley of dolls with a friend i was looking for the last suspect and saw something and started shooting and it was my friend and he started shooting back lmaooo

[azure lily]

fun fact: I have no idea where's the computer room on elephant

Oh

I first defuse the bombs and then arrest people lol because then you'd have 10 seconds to find all the bombs

Fuck

ok nvm

the hq is kinda laggy ngl

Bro I litteraly just entered the college and found the bomb.

[ornate mauve]

can i watch someone play ron (i dont have the game)

[azure lily]

I just killed a guy like john wick

[ornate mauve]

good job

ur learning from the best

[azure lily]

There's a problem idk how to show u my gameplay

Plus I don't like to spolir

[ornate mauve]

u go into a vc and in the bottom corner it shows a screen with an arrow

go into us 5

[ornate mauve]

oh

is the game a story mode?

[azure lily]

Well kind of there are different missions. Plus you need to hear the briefing off your tablet before the mission

[ornate mauve]

oh its fine then

[azure lily]

Wtf where is the bomb? I found one and i can't find the other

Uhm

I've been to all the possible areas which can contain the bombs. First a table near the stairs cafe noir labs projector room and the computer room and there was no bomb

Wtf?

Imma restart the mission

[jolly verge]

you dont really need to check every room, just walk around all rooms and listen, you can hear bomb sound from like 10m

[azure lily]

.

okay

btw I found an easter egg

[covert aurora]

oh?

[azure lily]

Go to the detective's thingy and police records then you can see on one of the PCs that someone booted up ron 🙂

[gaunt gale]

There's also the winner of the Cosplay contest in that room.

[covert aurora]

unfortunately i have a mod that changes the PD to RPD style :/ (RPD from Resident Evil)

[noble pasture]

a valley guard pushed me getting killed by my bean bag

he ignored the first bean bag to the chest

[azure lily]

. I just shot a guy by joke and failed

[covert aurora]

in the basement of the PD there's an pong machine

[azure lily]

im an idiot

[gaunt gale]

Such is life in the zone

[noble pasture]

bots killed another suspect

how am I supposed to S rank valley? They spam fire any less lethal gun I give them and then pull out the glock

[jolly verge]

remove their secondary ammo

[noble pasture]

then they sit like ducks?

[jolly verge]

they still gonna pull out secondary, but wont shoot

[covert aurora]

this is what i do

can't kill someone when they have no bullets

[stone bay]

How about the DLC content? I'm debating whether to buy it or not.

[copper cypress]

Has anyone successfully used a breaching hammer and yelled at the terrorists in Neon Tomb to surrender? I've been successful in the Sins of the Father level so far, but I don't know why not in this level.

After I used the hammer, the terrorist immediately shouted: "Brother! The police are over there!"

However, in the Sins of the Father level, the suspect hesitated for about 3 seconds before surrendering.

[covert aurora]

guns are free you can access the maps you can play if your playing with someone with the dlc

[stable walrus]

Is this DLC launching with the UE5 port?

[covert aurora]

i believe so

[stone bay]

[gaunt gale]

It is ye

We got a nice comprehesive pin written in #💬general-discussion

[plucky sage]

Is the new dlc going to be free?

[gaunt gale]

It is not

[undone plank]

Only for supporter edition owners

[gaunt gale]

It'll cost 9.99

also yes, free for Supporters

[plucky sage]

Bruh

kinda lame tbh

[covert aurora]

i mean if you play with friends and one of them have the DLC you can play the maps with them. weapons are free

you don't need the dlc for weapons just the maps and new cosmetic stuff

[gaunt gale]

Given the modern gaming climate, 9.99 is a fair price for 3 maps and cosmetics

At least a new customization option for every slot and 4+ camos for all of the new options

[covert aurora]

I will be honest, i thought it would cost more, cause market reasons.

[plucky sage]

I mean I bought the game for a pretty big price of 40 euro and was expecting a bit more content as it was in early access then, and now they're giving us the content but it's behind a pay wall.

[gaunt gale]

There is a pretty decent amount of content, all things considered. 18 maps and 31 guns is solid. Officer customization notwithstanding.

[noble pasture]

S rank is too hard

And unrealistic, will download mods to finish it

[urban zenith]

Sure but with the amount of content stripped from the previous version it is kind of a disappointment to pay more and receive “less”

[gaunt gale]

That is a valid concern, but anything that's been removed and is re-added will be added free as well. Like the balaclava option

Also the PvP

[urban zenith]

Not the biggest concern honestly i was more thinking on the game modes and stripped maps and stuff because those add more hours into the game. But customisation is good.

[plucky sage]

You do you guys. If there was an option to refund I definitely would because this feels like I was ripped off.

[gaunt gale]

Wasn't the only 'removed' map Fast food? Even then, I recall that one never made it past blocking

[broken ledge]

i mean honestly it's not bad locking only 3 maps and some customisation and being able to play the maps while others have it so abit of overreaction

[gaunt gale]

I mean, I can't blame people too much. Early VOID comms were sketchy at the best of times

That's why me and the rest of the marketing team are doing what we can to nail down as much info as possible going forward

[broken ledge]

i mean i get it there's a paywall behind a game that was supposed to be massive and some content paid for

[urban zenith]

Both versions of wenderley hills, old Cheriessa farm

[plucky sage]

At this pace there’ll be new content in december or whatever and if this will be somewhat of a success then there won’t be any new free content.

[covert aurora]

being honest, before you came back it went from sketch to like zero. that's just my opinion.

[broken ledge]

oh and it will 100% be review bombed at that pace

[urban zenith]

I think that it really didn’t need to be removed rather revamped or reworked even if it didn’t make the Final Cut. Plus that one hotel map with all its assets missing (I believe it didn’t see the light of day ever

[vivid crescent]

NGL I do kinda hope old content like that gets recycled for a "custom" mode of sorts

[covert aurora]

Farm and hotel are still in game and been revamped.

[gaunt gale]

I wouldn't count Cheriessa as remove since it was remade in its' entirety since the original layout was a smidge scuffed. I had also completely forgotten about Hotel since I never really played it much.

[vivid crescent]

SWAT 4's custom mode even let you mix up suspect types

I think it was even possible (can't remember if mod or not) to have suspects as civs and civ models as suspects.

[broken ledge]

also will there still be more free maps added?

[gaunt gale]

All I know is that my temporary replacement did his best, but wasn't really up to the sort of attention that RoN needed

[vivid crescent]

So hopefully stuff that "doesn't fit the story" is re-added as basically non-canon mode content.

[gaunt gale]

Not talking about gerby or huntr, just for clarity

[urban zenith]

Yes and no, hotel isn’t really in the game it passed through some revamps and most of the base content of the old maps was straight up deleted. Farm is in the game but completely changed

[covert aurora]

fair enough

[vivid crescent]

Like playing different game modes on story maps

[plucky sage]

I hope so

[gaunt gale]

I'm not sure, exactly.

I know that PvP was clearly stated to be returning and that different modes on maps may return, but it's on the same timeframe as PvP

Which is 'When we get to it'

[vivid crescent]

I do think they should take their time since I recall the PVP build being rough

[amber dock]

Kam idk if you know the answer but with the new achievements will they only be doable in solo like the vanilla ones or?

[vivid crescent]

As long as it's eventually coming and not abandoned that's good

[covert aurora]

i mean yeah.... Farm was remade and revamped same with hotel, there's no point in keeping an older version of a map if its been updated/changed

[gaunt gale]

Some people still have fond memories of the old versions though

[covert aurora]

i get that

[gaunt gale]

Same as vanilla, yes

[amber dock]

Copy that

[vivid crescent]

I can understand cutting them from campaign but it could work for MP/custom modes, same with the old ability to play several objective types on one maps

Obviously this is low priority and I'm not expecting VOID to do this all suddenly next update.

I do want to clarify, since sometimes people do expect devs to just suddenly do 20 things at once and not expecting them gradually over the games lifespan

[gaunt gale]

VOID is very much catching up on their accrued tech debt

[amber dock]

You GUYS ARE IN DEBT?????? it’s over VOID is shutting down/s

[vivid crescent]

So while me, as a new guy does think the old ability to play custom game modes essentially looks cool, I am not expecting them to add it for a good while.

[gaunt gale]

So things should start getting smoother. They've gotten a lot better than they were a year ago, and the transition should continue making things easier

[gaunt gale]

You know what tech debt means you shit

[vivid crescent]

Even if having the ability to play Sullivan's with more than 3 suspects as a custom mode would be cool.

[amber dock]

I know… just wanted to joke around swyy

[gaunt gale]

[covert aurora]

lmfao

[amber dock]

Now Kam is mad at me

[covert aurora]

more like.... "i'm watching you...."

see

[amber dock]

If Kam is watching me then he should know I’m in his walls

[covert aurora]

also Kaminsky, if Lily ever returns to where you are please him give them my regrads i am very worried about them >:)

[gaunt gale]

the DLC shinanigans kept both Lily and I busy

[covert aurora]

fair enough

lmfao

[amber dock]

Who’s Lily?

[covert aurora]

the mysterious @north ocean noone knows where they came from they just.... kinda.... appereed started posting these.... weird pics in #🪹the-sepulchre-arg with some weird phrasing they kept in contact for while then just up and disappered. So... i am just very worried that they might be hurt.

[thick narwhal]

We all got the "Into the storm" achievement the other day right?! 🧐

[covert aurora]

:)

AH!

[sharp lark]

how does this happen 😭
https://medal.tv/games/ready-or-not/clips/iidmBvacu80h593gm/d1337dVoKnxF?invite=cr-MSxGVUIsMjI2NDg0MTkwLA

She randomly happens to just shoot me 😭

[broken ledge]

Just eat the debt bill :)

[hollow citrus]

Damn, I thought void looted a fortune ever since early access release

I don't remember how much copies were exactly sold

[gaunt gale]

Oh no

that's not the kind of debt I mean

[vivid crescent]

I'm pretty sure Kam just means "working with old hardware is holding them back"

[gaunt gale]

Think of it as programming shortcuts that end up causing problems when you try to untangle them and clean them up

[amber dock]

Hehe my joke has spread mwahhahhahahaha

[gaunt gale]

Naw, not that either

[vivid crescent]

I know for another Unreal engine tactical shooter, the sadly abandoned Takedown: Red Sabre, they used an specific audio thing early on since it was convinent but then it stopped them using later versions on Unreal apparently according to a dev video

[plain osprey]

That game was ass

[hollow citrus]

Mmm, makes, sense yea

[plain osprey]

Even for an early 2010's game, it was really bad

[hollow citrus]

I just checked void has 179mil in gross revenue, holy macaroni

[vivid crescent]

It got rushed out and sadly it really showed

[plain osprey]

Yeah... could have been a good SWAT 4 replacement for that era

[gaunt gale]

That's not counting taxes or Steams cut

[vivid crescent]

It's a shame since it felt like a very early build of a cool tactical game, the bones were there but nowhere near finished

[plain osprey]

Regional pricing

[vivid crescent]

And a tactical shooter where you essentially play as the baddies sometimes because you're as PMC is a cool premise.

One of the mission is straight up breaking into a place to steal data, no questions asked and while gunning down security.

[plain osprey]

Even the core game wasn't there.

[hollow citrus]

Oh really, well then -30% from that instantly. Steam cuts are insane

[gaunt gale]

I mean

[stone stump]

ireland being tax haven cough cough

[hollow citrus]

I don't know about taxation in America so can't count that

[gaunt gale]

Steams cut is very, very fair considering everything they give you

Steamworks API alone is worth the 30%

[vivid crescent]

You have commands and somewhat the combat

[stone stump]

they aren't. they give you A LOT

[vivid crescent]

It's just A: not enough squad control and B: AI Aimbots way too hard.

[gaunt gale]

Consider that

Epic Game Store takes half of that and gives you zero of the features that steam gives you

[plain osprey]

Combat felt very eh from what I remember

[vivid crescent]

Game dev is cheaper nowadays if you want to make a simple indie game, no shade at them.

[stone stump]

with access to steam p2p network being the biggest "worth it" part

[hollow citrus]

The platform is good yeah, that begs the question why not steam workshop still

[vivid crescent]

But RON is clearly trying to somewhat match modern gaming quality and to my knowledge that is more expensive then older gaming era.

[gaunt gale]

Yarp.

[stone stump]

because devs chose mod.io, simple as that

[vivid crescent]

So gaming is in a weird spot of more and less expensive at the same time and RON is going for the more expensive side.

[gaunt gale]

Even with our 35 team members, we still have outside studios working with us on multiple things

[hollow citrus]

That's just worst option IMO.
Nexus was good steam workshop is the best

[stone stump]

steam workshop is mediocre at best

[hollow citrus]

care to explain

[stone stump]

the only reason to ever use it because it's integrated

[gaunt gale]

Strictly speaking

Workshop and Mod.io work the same exact way

Mod.io just has integration options for UE specific games

[vivid crescent]

Workshop is cool but I presume they need the game to actually be "settled" with engine and such before adding it

[hollow citrus]

No hardly disagree with that, you can vote and award mods and also sort popularity and etc. Bunch of categories as well you can create. steam workshop never seemed to be problematic tool for me.

[stone stump]

im bad at making lists, but the main part (other than the above) is that it's very outdated and lacks features

theres no way to provide multiple versions of the same mod without literally making a new one

[hollow citrus]

yea thats a good point tho

[stone stump]

well... technically you can, it has to be made on a game level though, with the steam workshop integration api

ets2 does that, so in some cases you download 5 version of the same mod, made for a specific version of the game

[hollow citrus]

hot take make skins in ready or not have steam market value and create Ready or Not cases, infinite money glitch.

[gaunt gale]

Oh god no

[stone stump]

now if you add that some mods take a lot of space, you can 5x that if you choose to use that method (don't)

[gaunt gale]

[stone stump]

or just use mods

[hollow citrus]

yea i can agree on you with that, but for me nexus is still what i use rather than mod io

[sharp lark]

i just love getting one tapped without the suspect even looking in the right direction https://medal.tv/games/ready-or-not/clips/iidMuYo3nr1meor4-/d13378BWpapw?invite=cr-MSxlbG8sMjI2NDg0MTkwLA https://medal.tv/games/ready-or-not/clips/iidKm87DH8FJKDVhZ/d1337S8ST5aN?invite=cr-MSxBTGosMjI2NDg0MTkwLA

[hollow citrus]

nah that aint for me, thats for devs to loot a bank

[stone stump]

obviously, no one should use mod.io (unless you download the mods manually, it's fine that way)

same goes for nexus though, vortex sucks

[hollow citrus]

tbh installing mods in RoN is so easy you dont really need any programm to do it for you

[stone stump]

but it has less chance of bricking your game like built-in mod.io does, so there's that

[stone stump]

you need archive decompression software

[hollow citrus]

arent we all have unpayed winrar

[viral bone]

How to see what grade you got on each map

[stone stump]

if you still use winrar you have to be very old

[stone stump]

complete the map again (i'm not joking)

[hollow citrus]

not that old but yes i have winrar lol

[stone stump]

yup, i meant old as far as modern internet goes*

[viral bone]

Well, shiat

[hollow citrus]

the moment of realistation

you no more the modern generation

[plush knoll]

This

[stone stump]

are you part of the generation that knows what reading comprehension is?

[hollow citrus]

you mean leet language?

[stone stump]

no

that one is literally for grandpas

[hollow citrus]

lmao

[soft mortar]

am i fine to play multiplayer with mods or do i have to play it unmodded?

[abstract fable]

if we own the supporter edition do we get the dlc for free?

[amber dock]

first one yes

[abstract fable]

sweet

[jolly verge]

you can, but host must have disabled checksum so you can join his lobby

[soft mortar]

oh so i dont have to go through the process of uninstalling mods got it

[jolly verge]

nope, and just in case there are safemode launch option, that will disable all mods

[abstract fable]

so if i own the dlc can i host for people that dont have it?

[jolly verge]

yeap

[hollow citrus]

yes

[amber peak]

It'd be dope to have tactical canines in the game.

Both SWAT and SEB in LA utilize tactical canine handlers for breaching. They're really good for LTL apprehension as well, so having them in the game would be cool.

[nova gust]

i think also fixing the 4x and 12x scope to be adjustable to 1x

oh, and multiple underbarrel attachments (need to run that laser light combo)

its a relatively small qol for the scopes, and the multiple underbarrel is a larger change, but both QOLs would make the game a bit more fun and give a bit more variety for me, cos i want to use scopes that work for longer ranges but the lack of 1x makes it not ideal to use

idk what the dev team's plans are for these tho, but i do want to ask but im unsure of how to ask them

[proven blade]

oh my god i want to fucking explode voll house

shit is impossible on hermit

[obtuse beacon]

yoooo, what you guys think about the new DLC Home Invasion?
do you think it's worth its price?

[jolly verge]

what traits you using and your loadout?

[vivid crescent]

psst SWAT 2 has K9 units

[proven blade]

full armor like the shit yk
negotiator x2, breacher, moral officer
and just full lethal (and taser because these little shits cant handle death)

[broken ledge]

Nah it's 3 maps and you can play them when someone has the DLC I wouldn't buy for myself tbh

[vivid crescent]

They can detect evidence through walls I think and suspects are more likely to surrender to an officer with a dog

[jolly verge]

ceramic plates? If you can swap breacher to armorer and you dont really need moral officer with 2 negotiators

[proven blade]

how do i swap?
and yes ceramic

[jolly verge]

in your tablet while you in HQ

[vivid crescent]

In the same menu you change your guns

[jolly verge]

ceramic + armorer = god

[vivid crescent]

oh wait officers, nvm.

[amber peak]

Yeah, that's realistic. Canines are used to intimidate suspects firsthand, apprehension is always the plan B. They'd fit S grade runs pretty well

[vivid crescent]

SWAT also lets the poor doggo die potentially 😭

I don't think the AI targets dogs specifically but they can be hit when suspects open fire on their handler.

[proven blade]

moral, armorer, nutrionist, breacher

bro how do i swap officers yall aint helping

[jolly verge]

open tablet and press on officer you want to swap

[vivid crescent]

To quote the manual: K9 HANDLER
A certified K9 handler automatically goes into the field with his partner,
a trained police dog. The K9 can sniff out suspects and evidence
through obstacles, and assist in arrests. There are no prerequisite skill
levels for K9 handler certification. The officer is out for one mission.
He returns with a dog and a hand-to-hand combat skill of 150%. In the
event the dog is taken out of action, the K9 handler has to become
recertified with a new partner.

[jolly verge]

it's your current traits or?

[amber peak]

SWAT teams use Belgian Shepherds like 90% of the time cuz they're agile as fuck. If we have a realistic approach, Belgian Mals are born to be canines since they got a heavy need for exercise

It's not common to send the dog on armed suspects tho

[vivid crescent]

Sadly due to SWAT 2's mechanics, almost every suspect is armed. (Though usually they surrender if under the effects of a flashbang or tear gas.)

[vivid steeple]

Bork bork nom nom

[vivid crescent]

Infact when playing as the Five Eyes Terrorist Cult, you're prevented from sending out characters if they aren't at least armed with a hand gun. (Which in the case of the Five Eyes is always a long barreled Desert Eagle for some reason.)

[proven blade]

#🎨ron-screenshots-and-art message

[vivid crescent]

SWAT 2 thinks a Colt .45 and a Desert Eagle in .50AE/.44 (game is indecisive about it's caliber) is equal

Also that the ZM LR300 (Five Eyes) and MP5 (SWAT) is equal since they're mechanically the same gun just with a different "faction".

[noble pasture]

Swat 2?! Wasnt that a point and click game?

[vivid crescent]

No that was only the first one, SWAT 2 was actually an RTS

Real-Time Strategy game, combat isn't a high focus but it's present.

[noble pasture]

An RTS? With Police? Were they Prostagma all over the place?

[vivid crescent]

Also had a full campaign for playing as the terrorist cult that you faced off against as SWAT

[vivid crescent]

I have no idea what Prostagma means

[jaunty ember]

Door kickers before door kickers

[vivid crescent]

I guess but with more focus on non-lethal

[noble pasture]

Its a common phrase in Greek for the game "Age of Mythology" a classic RTS

[vivid crescent]

For instance,a SWAT officer is suspended for one misison after fatally shooting someone if it's justified and 2 if not

[noble pasture]

Hold up, suspended for following RoE?

[vivid crescent]

Yeah that's the "good" outcome because they sitll need to actually make sure it's justified

You're encouraged to use K9 units, Flashbangs and a few others to make suspects surrender

[noble pasture]

Werent the 90's a crime infested time?

[vivid crescent]

That said if a Suspect is wounded by gunfire merely then no suspension.

[vivid crescent]

Yeah but SWAT is a spin-off of the Police Quest series which is rather infamously by the book to an extreme degree.

Also the Sierra devs weren't a fan of Daryl Gates who brought in to help with PQ4/SWAT 2. (yes, that Daryl Gates.)

So SWAT 2 very much encourages avoiding discharging weapons if possible. (mainly by glorious flashbang.)

[noble pasture]

sad glock noises

[vivid crescent]

That said you have a large pool of officers so as long as you train up replacement element leaders incase they are the ones who have to get suspended, it's generally not an issue

[dreamy garden]

Does ready or not use ue assetstore assets

[vivid crescent]

Also because suspects in SWAT 2 have access to hand grenades and will take the chance to wipe out a SWAT element in the later half of the game if given the chance

So you may need that large replacement pool if things go south badly

[dreamy garden]

Either their lod system is ass or the assets are
or they just didnt make thema t all

[vivid crescent]

If you think booby traps in RON are scary, SWAT 2 suspects randomly place down booby traps

So what was a clear doorway could actually have a booby trap behind it later

[jolly verge]

im not sure about assetstore, but there some assets from ue marketplace for sure