👮ron-discussion

[thorny warren]

use wedges lol

[frail quartz]

There are usually so many directions you can be shot from at once, it's hard to focus on them all

[frail quartz]

That doesn't really help the wide open rooms and hallways

[snow sphinx]

how it is easier

They can watch your back, do arrests and evidence packing

[thorny warren]

the ai bothers me, blocks my way etc

and it also kills immersion a bit because let's be honest, they are not that realistic

i also tried the ironman mode achievement, died on the 5th mission, kinda painful but that's what makes it more immersive

[frail quartz]

What do we mean by realistic?

[thorny warren]

imagine with tech advancments, one day we will feel the pain phisically when getting shot at

[thorny warren]

they dont feel as real as other NPCs

[frail quartz]

Soooo, what do we mean by "real"

[thorny warren]

realistic, close to irl

[frail quartz]

In what way are they not close to IRL

[thorny warren]

they are always close to you so you can see their imperfections

[frail quartz]

So like their appearance? their animations?

[snow sphinx]

Wat

[frail quartz]

I've gotta agree that some of the animations could really use some work, they're still working on implementing those new mocap animations they did a while back

[thorny warren]

i noticed that not using gloves makes it feel a bit more realistic though, dunno if anyone else tried

[snow sphinx]

They are the best allied ai i ever seen in any game, the fuck are you talking about

[frail quartz]

But yeah, I've gotta agree that the ai sometimes don't follow commands and can run out of cover into direct fire of the enemy we're trying to sneak up on, but overall I'd say they're better to have than to not

[thorny warren]

there is also the fact that you lose points if they get killed, ruining some S runs

[frail quartz]

Wait, how on earth are you gonna get S rank solo?

That's one of the primary advantages to the ai, you can restrain suspects without leaving eachother exposed to fire

[thorny warren]

beanbag shotguns, throwables...

[thorny warren]

you know you can ask them to move right?

earlier i did several attempts on greased palms, i was relatively close each time but no avail, that one is difficult

[frail quartz]

The suspects? Yeah, that doesn't change the fact that I'm still left completely defenseless for a few seconds

Especially when you have multiple suspects surrendered at once

From my experience, one suspect will always get up while you restrain another

[thorny warren]

that's kind of the reason why im struggling to do greased palms, the warehouse on that level has got to be the worst hell pit in the game

sometimes i wish i had air support, that way i wouldn't have to jam every exit of a building except the one i enter

[shy tulip]

The air support would jam the doors for you

[thorny warren]

well i would get "unauthorised use of force" if it shoots the suspects while they dont expect it but, megaphones are a thing

also i totally forgot they said the lspd is an underfunded police force, it doesn't really feel like it though

[fossil palm]

rifles do not beat machine guns

[north gazelle]

you are 5 against (most of the time) 10-15 suspect, sometimes bomb and hostages

[thorny warren]

yeah i heard each team "red and blue" normally has 4 operators instead of two, that's 9 operators but maybe the game would be a bit too easy, and it would be difficult to control them all at once

[north gazelle]

yeah it's for gameplay reason, 9 cop would make the game feel less stressful and way too easy but I mean it make me feel like in a bankrupt pd

[buoyant pecan]

Man
Fuck Relapse

[tacit gull]

yet we have exotic fully kitted out export weapons and overpriced NVGs, it doesn't really make sense

[buoyant pecan]

Do the LAPD use G36s and MP7s irl

[thorny warren]

i didn't even know there was that much room in the swat truck, or are there two of them normally?

damn im so dumb, i see two when missions start

[frail quartz]

I like to think that the LSPD isn't underfunded, they just make extremely poor financial decisions

[thorny warren]

equipment is extremely good though

[north gazelle]

yeah lore wise it's bullshit but still for gameplay reason, Ron would be boring as fuck with 2-3 assault rifle, 2 shotgun et 2 pistol

[frail quartz]

I just like drippy equipment

[thorny warren]

when i want to challenge myself i get rid of armor, the helmet and i only take like a handgun, revolver or taser

[pearl shuttle]

When was the last time they talked about the LSPD being underfunded lol

[thorny warren]

also did some runs with the AK-103, dont remember which mod adds it exactly, it must be gunfighter

[pearl shuttle]

Even arguably "underfunded" SWAT teams have pretty okay gear

[frail quartz]

I always imagined that most of the weapons in the arsenal are personal contributions from the officers themselves as well

[thorny warren]

AK based platforms are not unreliable they are just too lethal

[thorny warren]

in my country, police officers buy body armor with their own money

[frail quartz]

7.62x39 isn't really any more lethal than the other assault rifle rounds (If you exclude the 7.62 JHP being bugged and having a 0% bleed chance)

[buoyant pecan]

I had to quit the game if I attempted Relapse again (assuming the game doesn’t crash or freeze on loading screen) I’d get a headache

[buoyant pecan]

Ngl I don’t care much about immersion in weapon loadout just pls gimme MORE guns

[thorny warren]

yeah we need LMGs, and suspects with RPG-7, along with throwables...

[buoyant pecan]

Like would an AA12 be pretty unrealistic? Yes
Would I love to slaughter Bolton security on Valley of the Dolls with it? Also yes

[snow sphinx]

Wanna hear hot take?

I actually like Greased Palm

[buoyant pecan]

Oh damn

Can’t say I relate

[snow sphinx]

Because it actually forces you to approach rooms in a smart way, respecting lines of fire

[buoyant pecan]

Only issue is some of the angles enemies get on you are bullshit

[frail quartz]

Greased palms wasn't too much of an issue for me

[thorny warren]

the warehouse in greased palms is just like vietnam

[snow sphinx]

For example instead of going straight through that huge opened area, you should take first opening to the street on the left and reenter the big area via another entrance avoiding nastiest angles you can be shot from

[snow sphinx]

No, it is not. Only if you going in dumb in a straight line

[buoyant pecan]

Naw

[frail quartz]

Yeah, the conveyor belt room isn't optimal for CQB, but not everywhere in real life is

[buoyant pecan]

I’ve been very precise and tactical and then got blasted from a tiny corner where I couldn’t even see a dude

[frail quartz]

I don't mind maps having un-gamified areas as long as it isn't the entire map

Anyways, I read in the newsletter that they're refactoring the ai's vision so that they can't spot you through tiny gaps as easily as they could before

That should probably make the conveyor room a bit more manageable

[snow sphinx]

So literal skissue, you slipped up at that moment when you did not check that corner

[snow sphinx]

As i said it is not the entire map

[buoyant pecan]

I did check the corner

[snow sphinx]

You can find angles

[buoyant pecan]

I couldn’t see shit because the gap was that tiny

[snow sphinx]

another 2 places in the game like this

[thorny warren]

this morning i did like 3+ attempts on greased palms, i was close each time but S run on that map is difficult

[snow sphinx]

ffs

[thorny warren]

that map, valley of the dolls, the car dealership, relapse and hide and seek are the only ones left

[snow sphinx]

Banning word suic ide is so fuckn cringe

[thorny warren]

in fact i nearly completed valley of the dolls yesterday, there were 2 suspects left in that sussy room at the bottom

[frail quartz]

Do you have even the slightest idea how little that narrows it down?

[thorny warren]

it's ok, pain is part of the fun, for me

[snow sphinx]

I was saying that there are at least 2 more areas like that - dance floor on night club and 2-storey area in hotel hostage mission, both are areas with so many angles to be shot from that it is suic ide to go directly through them, which i assume is also very realistic

[thorny warren]

i alr took care of those, the last map though...

[thorny warren]

i dont have the slightest idea what you're talking about

[buoyant pecan]

I think they’re saying every room in that basement is sussy

[wraith basin]

@north gazelle Funny see you joining my lobby sometimes. :)

[oblique furnace]

probably the one with the giant pictures of his daughter

though that basement also features the Dead Kids IN Barrels Mass Grave which could be argued to be the sussier of rooms.

[crisp aurora]

is there a way a player can have a 9bang on a unmodded server

[opaque birch]

mods

[crisp aurora]

im aware

im just trying to figure out how they have 9bangs on a vanilla server

[frail pier]

Because they joined with mods

[crisp aurora]

yea but like how do you join a vanilla server with mods

@frail pier

do you understand what I'm saying?

[frail pier]

Do you understand what I'm saying? Just because host doesn't have it running doesn't mean people can't use their mods they installed. Some mods work some don't like that. Sometimes it works fine sometimes it doesn't just depends on the mod.

So TLDR Dude had 9bangs installed.... Just because host didn't have it doesn't mean jack shat.

Turn on server side check sum or kick people if you don't like 9bangs

[opaque birch]

mods

[crisp aurora]

no shit, which one allows them to keep the 9bang

yall dumb as shit

you cant keep your mods if the server has checksum enabled

[opaque birch]

Mods

[opaque birch]

Then the server doesnt have checksum enabled

[crisp aurora]

it did

[opaque birch]

Mods

[crisp aurora]

it was a vanilla server

[opaque birch]

that doesnt mean shit

[crisp aurora]

yes it does

[opaque birch]

the servers are p2p dumbass

[crisp aurora]

it means no mods enabled

[opaque birch]

No you fucking dumbass

The servers are p2p

It doesnt depend on the host for me to have mods

[crisp aurora]

that’s what I’m saying mf

[opaque birch]

???????????? No it isnt

[crisp aurora]

do you know what serverside checksum is?

[opaque birch]

Nah im done arguing with you bro

[shy tulip]

It prevents you from joining a host if they have mods, essentially.

Or if they're vanilla and you have mods.

[frail pier]

Maybe it's bugged and not working all of a sudden lmao... But either way just make sure its enabled and kick them lol if you don't wanna play around 9bangs. Maybe checksum was off but showed on idk. But you're the one asking a question and get mad at the answer. You sir are dumb as s**t.

[shy tulip]

It has been working solid as far as the reports I've seen

[crisp aurora]

I wasn’t mad at the 9bangs I wanted to know how he had the mod and then kept the 9bang w/o it

[shy tulip]

9bangs are an item in the game files, mods just unlock it, so if they remove the mod but have it equipped, they can still use it (as long as it is equipped)

[crisp aurora]

I’m trying to figure out which mod it is

I know because I had it prior to adam update

[opaque birch]

aint it js sniper or not

[crisp aurora]

I played during beta when they had the UA helmet and jack o’ lantern

[crisp aurora]

there was a comment saying that misc grenades weren’t included

i haven’t personally checked the mod myself

[shy tulip]

I would imagine either sniper or not, or gunfighter, not sure

[crisp aurora]

i tried gun fighter, doesnt work

[frail pier]

Theres multiple sets of gunfighter. Did you install it off mod.io or nexus?

[crisp aurora]

nexus

[snow sphinx]

What qol mods can you guys recommend?

[snow sphinx]

ok, wtf, in the middle of mission suddenly i got failed objective to save all civilians on Valley of dolls

[fossil palm]

the boom vest are the worst

[snow sphinx]

Why?

[fossil palm]

I had like 4 explode on me and my team

[river tide]

gunfighters

[snow sphinx]

Does not seem like qol, seems more like a cheaty mod

[river tide]

it’s not, just makes stuff more realistic, like if you don’t like the 25 slots then don’t use all 25 lmao

[snow sphinx]

What part of it makes stuff more realistic?

[river tide]

recoil adjustments, fov fixes, better gun physics, etc

[snow sphinx]

those make things different, not more realistic

[river tide]

they are more realistic adjustments

[snow sphinx]

no, they are not

[stone bay]

E

[frail pier]

Tappy is a good mod to get also! Just be aware breaching doors is a bit different from vanilla.

But for you to tap people they have to get it installed as well

[fossil palm]

I found a mod for 50 slots, lol

[obtuse loom]

whenever i try to arrest someone it keeps looping but i cannot arrest, anyone got a solution for this?

[fossil palm]

Buy cheap buy twice map, what are the two soft objectives?

[river tide]

when that happened to me it was just a glitch and you gotta reopen the game

[obtuse loom]

one is finding a little girl in a small hallway

[obtuse loom]

i did that but it doesnt work

[river tide]

could just be a mod then

[fossil palm]

thanks

[river tide]

??? no it isn’t

theres 3, report weapon cache in the garage that says fragile

one is to report guns and drugs in a room

and there’s human trafficking records

[obtuse loom]

https://youtu.be/V9JxP065oMM?t=300 what is it then

[river tide]

that’s thank you come again

he said buy cheap buy twice

[obtuse loom]

oh lol

lmao

[fossil palm]

an ai team mate just killed a suspect we need to arrest

[fossil palm]

not good

[neon burrow]

Yo this guy is trying to get me to buy stuff with phishing link can yall report this guy his username is w0bble0bble

[mossy mortar]

quick noob RON question. I am hoping to unlock the training facility in the police station. Can I unlock it by playing through the practice mode? Or is it only available through the commander mode? Thanks!

[pastel adder]

I believe it unlocks about halfway thru commander mode. I could be wrong tho

[umbral oar]

Yes

[pearl shuttle]

just makes stuff more realistic

Good thing they were asking for a quality of life mod, eh

[river tide]

the more realistic stuff are quality of life stuff

[pearl shuttle]

That's not what quality of life means lmao

[crude prism]

cool new mod idea: if you get shot, you have to tourniquet and then hobble to the van and leave

[fringe fjord]

cool new mod idea: skibidi toilet

[lost inlet]

[snow sphinx]

And it does not even make stuff more realistic

[frail quartz]

In terms of the recoil, weapon placement, and short-stocking? Yeah, I'd say so

I've never personally worn a ballistic vest so I wouldn't know much about the extra slots part

[half crescent]

I would agree, yes, it makes stuff more realistic. As for slots, it’s pretty insignificant, as at the end of the day, people will decide whether to conduct their gameplay realistically or tactically, completely independent of slots.

[stone bay]

how do u sprint?

[jolly verge]

there is low-ready bind, by default it's Space and Del keys

[frail quartz]

All I know is that the extra slots are a lifesaver when it comes to grenades since you're forced to be the dedicated grenade guy of your squad with ai teammates

Realistically we'd all probably take turns using our grenades during breaches, but I'm the only one who can toss into rooms rather than just infront of their doorways

[snow sphinx]

i fail to see how the changes make things more realistic

they make things easier, not realistic

[sharp fox]

is there a schizo mod for ron

[full shore]

Yeah

[crisp aurora]

what are the most aggressive sounding rifles without a suppressor

[wraith basin]

I guess, SA-58 for sure is one of them.

[crisp aurora]

smaller caliber

[fleet burrow]

What month was dlc dropping?

[silk junco]

spring

[simple trout]

the devs do plan to put the game on sale for the steam summer sale right

[half crescent]

Maybe the problem you are having in this situation is the quirk that realistic things in Ready or Not tends to make things easier! For example, unrealistic AI, unrealistic recoil, unrealistic physics and unrealistic tactics DO typically make the game significantly harder! I wouldn't specifically consider Gunfighter a QOL mod, nor would I consider it a "cheaty mod". It is an inaccurate description and sounds weird. Also, If you can't see how gunfighter enhances realism, then that's on you. 🤷‍♂️

[crisp aurora]

there's the occasional inconvenience when the stinger launcher does jack shit to a combatant

[crude prism]

the stuff like short-stocking is cool, and makes more sense compared to the normal officer being incompetent with their weapon

but 25 slots and baby recoil makes the game significantly easier and not really in a "fun or immersive" way, imo

I still can't believe that there's no version of short stocking in vanilla, it's kinda nuts

Void moment

[half crescent]

Sure. Me personally, I don't take more equipment than reasonable or realistic, even if I have 25 or 100 slots. I always take a realistic loadout. I briefly addressed it by saying "people will decide whether to conduct their gameplay realistically". Also, I'm not sure if gunfighter recoil should really be considered baby recoil or even all too unfair, especially when you compare it to the commonly undue accuracy of the AI. The gunfighter recoil is still within reason to my knowledge. But I also admittedly don't pay much attention to it because I find other things more important.

Also, focusing in on things like that or considering some things "cheating" can add a weird gatekeeping feeling.

[frail quartz]

Now that I think about it, I can understand how the return-to-center recoil could be unfair

[crude prism]

I'd probably be much less bothered by the recoil reductions if Void actually rebalanced the current roster of firearms to not be WILDLY different

(looking at you BCM/GA416/SR16)

[half crescent]

I don't judge. If it feels unfair or too easy, then that's totally valid.

[frail quartz]

Either way, it feels much more comforting personally to be able to use grenades freely instead of having to overthink what rooms to use them on and which ones not to

[crude prism]

Straight up just adding (effectively) unlimited slots is definitely cheating in a way, or at least outside the scope of what the game is trying to balance around

[frail quartz]

That and I can actually have some extra sidearm ammo/wedges instead of having to go absolutely barebones to have enough grenades to get through a level with my ai teammates

[crude prism]

If you don't want to lead the AI around, or play only in coop lobbies, more power to ya for using mods that enable it

[half crescent]

I also add extreme AI mods which can be quite unfair, so I am definitely not the average player either.
(Just mentioning it for the perspective of a new player.)

[crude prism]

Again it seems like it's on Void for not adding simple modifiers/sliders/mutators or literally ANY way to change the game from the base experience

(mod.io in-game doesn't count because it's still fucking broken lmao)

[frail quartz]

(Ignoring the fact that I don't use my sidearm at all)

[crude prism]

Void try not to make sidearms extremely unwieldly and dogshit challenge

[frail quartz]

I wouldn't say they're unwieldly, I just have absolutely no reason to use them over my primary

[half crescent]

I agree, and that is very well recognized. In many Ready or Not groups, It's standard to always have your primary out with few exceptions. If a team-member switches to their pistol, it basically declares an emergency to all other members and indicates that they are in danger and their rifle isn't functioning (out of ammo in RON).

though if there is a HVT, it may be considered to use a pistol to have less chance of killing.

[frail quartz]

I feel like you arguably have a smaller chance of killing someone the less shots it takes to down them

Not only because that's less shots than can hit an artery, but it reduces the chance of firing an extra shot accidentally assuming you're firing more quickly than normal to compensate for the less stopping power

[drifting sand]

I feel like part of the issue is the AI itself, with their nigh on suicidal aggressiveness and an ability to pull off all kinds of improbable trick shots (from shooting backwards to ye olde fast sideways run/hop).

[ionic gale]

the crackheads on 213 are ex Navy SEALs with their aim

[umbral oar]

i like to think i predicted low ready being bound to space

[earnest phoenix]

lspd ran out of funding and now has to use airsoft pistols as sidearms

[stone bay]

😂

[earnest phoenix]

i geniuenely never switch to my sidearm if i run out of ammo because its just faster to reload rather than magdump the suspect with 9mm and hope it does more than just tickle them

[stone bay]

Same. I now only carry two pistol mags to load more flashbangs.

[drifting sand]

Honestly, I want AI to feel like their roles instead of all being universally committed to fighting to the end.

Do that and the fights become a lot more interesting, because the player has to actual make decisions and worry about not killing enemies who aren't a threat, rather than just playing it like a shoothouse.

Would also be nice if they didn't have preternatural aim and ESP.

[quaint palm]

Crack gave them a sixth sens and supernatural ability

[ionic gale]

[stone bay]

anyone trying to play im kinda new still trying to learn everything but multiplayer sucks with randoms because they random kill alot

[quaint palm]

Play solo player to learn how to play properly

[stone bay]

i mean i know how to play good just get bored playing with ai on my team

[river bluff]

for some forsaken reason my vortex mods don't work

gunfighter mod stopped working

[stone bay]

I just had a flashbang bounce off a doorframe, bounce off the door and land right at my feet.

[stone stump]

simple, don't use vortex

[river tide]

vortex 🤮

[river bluff]

I mean, it provides ease to use

but if it gives these much errors, better not to use it

[stone bay]

tbh you'd think watching a dude take a .308 round to the head would dissuade you from rushing at the cops with a fuckin knife, but no.

I also managed to make three suspects comply by missing my target and flashing the bathroom in 23mbps

[snow sphinx]

what is short stocking btw?

[raw arch]

Anybody up to run Twisted Nerve in abt 30 mins?
Got no mic btw

[snow sphinx]

sure

[umbral oar]

i once was trying to see how fast i could die and a crackhead emptied their entire mag and only landed one bullet so i don’t know why everyone says they’re too good at aiming

[stone bay]

That’s some Pulp Fiction shit right there

[crystal basin]

five months without an update huh

[raw arch]

U on?

[raw arch]

lmao

[neat robin]

Honestly it’s impressive a crackhead hit anything

[raw arch]

and yet the furthest in twistied nerve i got was onto the second floor and i got nailed by some random guy who wasnt even there AND my ai teammates should haves hot him if he was

[umbral oar]

You shoulda seen it before 1.0

[snow sphinx]

Yes

[raw arch]

Whats ur steam name

[snow sphinx]

Same

[crystal basin]

had the game for almost 3yrs dog

[umbral oar]

then you know 6 months is impressive

[snow sphinx]

@raw arch well?

[raw arch]

i sent u a dm

[distant agate]

Anyone know any AI mods that fix the swat AI behaviour of restraining & securing evidence in a room that hasn't been cleared yet?

[fossil palm]

what does it mean that the ai team isn't searching a room

I still have 1+ civvie in unaccounted for but they are doing nothing

i have looked everywhere

WAIT I found the sob

[river tide]

usually happens if the civ wasn’t yelled at or the room was closed and you haven’t went in it yet

[crude prism]

Basically just putting the stock of the weapon onto your shoulder for a shorter overall length in close engagements so you don't bump stuff/get grabbed/etc

In RoN your weapon just goes up or down and becomes useless if you get slightly too close to an object or person. No competent manipulation for u

[fossil palm]

i think it was that a civi ran into an already searched room. or it wasnt search properly

[wanton mountain]

has anyone out here completed "Way out west" achievement? i'm trying to get it with my buddy but it doesn't pop up. First time we thought it was because i bashed someone with shield. Tried again today without bashing and it didn't pop up again. Any idea why?

[buoyant pecan]

Relapse pissin me off

Also this game in general pissing me off for making my entire steam deck freeze on loading screens multiple times

What kinda maps/levels would y’all like to see in the future?

[umbral oar]

you have to do it in practice or commander mode

[opaque moth]

man its so weird to see RoN without the whole pre-release office

it just feels.. off

[opaque birch]

Yall didnt uninstall already? Crazy

[opaque moth]

well i did but only to make space for more games on my pc

[opaque moth]

i feel like they need to redo some of the recoil, cuz the older guns have wayy more recoil than the newer ones, even though a lot of them still fire 5.56

[wanton mountain]

damn that sucks

[opaque birch]

They gotta remake the 416

[opaque moth]

it's so if you bump a wall you can actually use your weapon, not be blocked by the wall

[opaque moth]

totally

[wanton mountain]

wdym? they are pretty good now

[opaque moth]

still don't understand the logic of using an F88 in the police force

[wanton mountain]

not the best but they don't need to be remade

[opaque moth]

i agree

you talking about the swat ai?

[wanton mountain]

try updating you're game to newest update dude because for sure we're not

[opaque moth]

damn

you need more experience to really understand the ai and how to breach and clear if you're going to make an argument like that

don't judge a book by its cover

play the game = understand it more

it's different playing with real people

it really does help playing with others, since you can call out stuff and they can tell you what's going on

not to diss the commander mode though

there's always #🔎looking-for-players

[buoyant pecan]

SON OF A (expletive)

I got so close to beating Relapse
Then a dude who looked like a civilian hiding in the bathroom fakesurrendered and pulled out a pistol and instakilled me

[river tide]

people complain about team ai then proceed to never use their team ai commands except for fall in and move and clear

[buoyant pecan]

I mean it’s still true the AI does need improvement

[frail quartz]

I'm pretty sure the reasoning they used in the newsletter discussing it was that it was the only AUG with a "semi-auto" selector since the AUG's normal progressive trigger system can't be replicated with a mouse

But yeah, I have to agree that including such a modern rifle that isn't even being exported yet is kinda ridiculous

[crude prism]

They needed to stress test the rifle in the field and Los Angeles is the perfec... I mean Los Suenos is the perfect hot-bed for LE to get hands on

[frail quartz]

"Why are they pressing the bolt release like that, didn't we specifically design it to be pressed without letting go of the mag?"
"I dunno, their training isn't what we're testing, we're just trying to see if it melts."

[opaque moth]

it is, but i mean i do kind of understand the rationale-- it's chambered in 5.56, it's a bullpup, good for CQB work-- still though, it's a little weird that a rifle being used in the Australian military would fall into the hands of US law enforcement

[frail quartz]

I'm pretty sure the F90 isn't even in service anywhere, it's just meant for export

The F88 is what I think the Australian military uses

[opaque moth]

right, i've forgotten

been a while since I played

[frail quartz]

I mean, the game doesn't exactly include anything about the history of the AUG

[opaque moth]

well-- it's the F90 not the AUG

[frail quartz]

The F90 uses the AUG as a platform

[opaque moth]

i know

[frail quartz]

Anyways now that I do some more research, I'm not actually sure if they do sell the F90 to other countries or not, I can't really find anything online that says they do or don't

[jade folio]

hi everyone, just wanted to ask if the ping error saying that couldnt find an acceptable ping server when trying to find a public game is cuz there's actually no good server near me, thanks.

[frail quartz]

The website says (about the rifles) "This range is only available for defense forces and law enforcement agencies" but I don't know if the defense & law enforcement force it's referring to is exclusively Australian

[limpid swallow]

is there a price for dlc yet

[opaque moth]

i do know that you can't import a firearm from the united states without a license i think

[frail quartz]

I know, but a police department probably shouldn't have a problem with that

[thorny warren]

i cant believe i managed an S run on greased palms, but now i really wish i had a team so i could do "search and secure" because i missed a piece of evidence somewhere... help

[buoyant pecan]

Amusement park level when

Every game needs a theme park/carnival level

[hexed leaf]

Raid on the Jonkler's lair when

[crisp aurora]

how do people have black heavy vest

[pale shale]

After using all the different underbarrel grips in the game a can’t tell the difference between them. They all seem to be the exact same. I know the stats, but I can’t tell the difference at all. Vertical = Angled = Combat = None?

[frail quartz]

The vertical grip decreases vertical recoil by 10% and decreases camera bob, the angled grip decreases horizontal recoil by 20%, ADS time by 35%, but increases camera bob, and the combat grip reduces horizontal recoil by 80%, ADS time (on some weapons) by 10%, and camera bob by 50%.

[buoyant pecan]

Unironically though a tactical game set in Gotham would go so hard

Penguin Iceberg Lounge level

[pale shale]

i know the stats, I can feel the 30% vertical difference between the socom suppressor and the SFMB. But I can’t feel the 80% reduction in horizontal recoil between no grip and combat. And I certainly *can’t tell a difference in ADS speed. I dont know I could be wrong, it’s just suspicious.

[buoyant pecan]

Victor Zsas house
Arkham Asylum riot
Some creepy farm with a lab where Scarecrow tests his fear toxin

[crisp aurora]

how do people have the black iotvs?

[buoyant pecan]

”entry team this is TOC, Joker has escaped confinement yet again for the 500th time”

[frail quartz]

Final boss of the game is Batman who's pissed off that you killed all of his arch nemeses and left him with nothing to do

[crude prism]

Horizontal recoil is mostly nonexistent, only noticeable with arm injuries on some smgs

[celest plinth]

Another team because its secretly pvp

[upper marsh]

I remember a few months ago, in order to get the achievements you had to do it solo. Is this still the case or can I get achievements even when I play with friends?

[umbral oar]

yep, solo only

[upper marsh]

okay, thanks

[wispy mural]

Man

[snow sphinx]

My only gripe with them is that it is really hard to make them to use grenades effectively if enemies are not right behind a door

[frail quartz]

I wish we could've been able to use the map to direct them where in the room to throw grenades

That'd probably require a hefty overhaul of the tablet maps themselves though

[tacit gull]

There is a pretty large disconnect between the maps and the actual game, however planning out an entry for whatever room or even being able to tell your bots where to throw nades would be great

[stone bay]

this game is fucking ridiculous

why am i getting hit through a 1 meter wide pillar of concrete from a suspect

then i pull out a riot shield, miss all my shots even though the laser is right on the guy's chest

and then i get shot to death while i have the riot shield inbetween me and him

[snow sphinx]

skissue

[stone bay]

the aimbot through walls is such a realistic feature

especially through concrete

what is cover anyway

[snow sphinx]

pretty sure they don't actually aimbot, they just shoot at the place they seen/heard you

So if you quickly change position, they will keep shooting the door/wall

[stone bay]

i don't really give a damn, i should be safe behind a bunker's width worth of concrete

instead of getting crippled and having all my limbs shattered

and then getting killed through the riot shield

[snow sphinx]

Shield probably has limited durability?

[stone bay]

how it feels to spread misinformation online

[crude prism]

you have the same penetration they do, RoN's biggest issue with penetration is that it's basically impossible to tell what material a surface is

there's not enough visual/audio difference between materials

[stone bay]

i don't have their aimbot

they know my position through walls, i dont

also it doesn't matter, it's stupid

[crude prism]

the AI doesn't randomly shoot you through surfaces, it's been disproven like so many times

you're either mid gunfight and diving into cover, or they're suppressive firing your last known position

[stone bay]

bullets don't pierce concrete

[crude prism]

pls share pic of the "concrete" surface in question

[stone bay]

my hatred is immense

alright, fine

when i share it you're just gonna tell me i'm lying about it

[snow sphinx]

whgat about shield, what are its mechanics

[crude prism]

shield is invulnerable and impenetrable, whenever you take damage with a shield out, you're probably just getting winged on the sides or under it

[snow sphinx]

CAn your right h and be shot when you aim with pistol?

[crude prism]

yeh

you're sticking out to the side and forward with it (reflecting the 1st person animation properly)

[stone bay]

and when you dont aim

sent the pillar in media

i was hidding behind that and i got shot THROUGH it, 4 times

[snow sphinx]

So if you move camera a bit to the right you can actually protect the hand?

[crude prism]

as long as you're not aiming, you're fine, turning in either direction will expose your body

[stone bay]

mmm would you like to say anything about that concrete pillar or

[crude prism]

bro I'm not even home, I gotta go see what material it's actually made of later

also, if you want to move the goalposts from "the AI is cheating" to "I think that material penetration needs to be reworked" go nuts

[stone bay]

both are problems that when combined together make for bullpoop deaths

you went from show me the pillar to "don't care" real fast

[crude prism]

Yeah but one of those issues doesn't exist, and the other is the game trolling you. And as I said before was bad, being that it's impossible to tell what is actually cover vs concealment.

[crude prism]

#👮ron-discussion message

pls see the "I'll test it when I can"

[snow sphinx]

Reeee literally the last 2 suspects kileld an officer, i was this close to S-ranking valley of dolls...

[crude prism]

F, valley is pain

[snow sphinx]

Why searching tables and beds even exists

[humble mauve]

because people can hide under tables and beds

and in dressers/closets

[snow sphinx]

never seen that, not once

[humble mauve]

I think it depends on how you go through maps, but it is most common on Twisted Nerve

also specific voicelines telling them to come out is a nice touch when you do encounter them hiding

[snow sphinx]

and what way provides it?

Only way i did not try is silent

[crisp aurora]

how do people have a black heavy vest

[tacit gull]

In the base game?

[crisp aurora]

yes

[random oasis]

hey, so i recently downloaded ron again to play the update and stuff, how does the ranking system work? asking since I did every objective and got a A+ but there is still some room that I could get

[lethal hill]

theres an S tier

[half crescent]

i think it is automatically given when you wear heavy armor full, im not sure of the exact specifics, but it is not related to the customization heavy vest.

[balmy moth]

S tier is now basically exclusive to non-lethal no fuck-ups allowed

[crisp aurora]

well that’s not entirely true, you just have to get everyone to surrender

the hard way

[random oasis]

hm alright thank you 🙏

was going to assume I didn’t get S tier because one of my guys got injured

[mild current]

does anyone know when the next update will be

[low lichen]

streamer mission < everything else

[urban walrus]

Well, based on the roadmap, 1.1 and DLC 1 should be released somewhere between now and June 20th, and that is if it is not delayed.

[prime wing]

seems like it will release exactly on the last day of spring, it would be funny tho

[umbral oar]

keeping promises i see…

[pastel adder]

Based take

I’m sorry but that mission isn’t even bad it’s just boring

[low lichen]

It's annoying

[frail quartz]

I wouldn't say it's boring, it's just that its story makes the least sense

[low lichen]

Not even boring, just painful

[pastel adder]

I hate soloing the atrium

[low lichen]

Unfun to play because of how open and vulnerable everything is

even if you breach through the side stairs

[pastel adder]

Last time I played solo it, the only way I could win was being the SA58 JHP and shooting first

[frail quartz]

I usually don't have a problem breaching the main staircase room by splitting my team to take two floors at once

[low lichen]

ngl i always forget you can queue the orders and how to do it

[frail quartz]

I haven't had any suspects spawn on the bottom floor from my experience

[pastel adder]

I never queue tbh

I just kinda impulse order/split

[frail quartz]

I usually use it when possible

[vapid fulcrum]

ah hell nah why does bro have the burgundian symbol

[fossil palm]

why do maps have to be done at night

[stone bay]

Port would be so much easier if it was a daytime map tbh.

[fossil palm]

I'm on hide and seek map

[snow sphinx]

Wat, but it is not

[river tide]

exactly lmao

[hard marsh]

Hello everyone, i have a problem with launching the game

[jolly verge]

describe what your problem here https://discord.com/channels/310075021882294272/921527871619620914

[opaque robin]

am i the only person who flicks their like mouse in fear because of a suspect jumpscare

personally when that happens to me i spray them

[snow sphinx]

So annoying i can't do restart mission in commander mode...

Do you need to complete missions on S rank in commander mode for cosmetics?

[stone bay]

No, it can be done in practice mode

[sharp fox]

sometimes i get jumpscared when a suspect starts shooting me out of nowhere when its eerily quiet

like in twisted nerve

[opaque robin]

yeah i hate twisted nerve

[sharp fox]

i just accidentally press random buttons then start shooting back

literal horror game

[granite peak]

bro it’s literally one of 2 night maps basically

[sharp fox]

theres like 3 night maps and port hokan is one of them

[river tide]

twisted nerve, hide and seek, and rust belt is tech night because most of it’s in a dark cave

[stone bay]

they should add like headcam cam in replay

[wispy mural]

1.0 didn’t launch this is 0.9 brother

[bronze grove]

Hello everyone

How are you all today ?

[gloomy thistle]

[tight delta]

Are they adding balaclavas? I see the officers around the station wearing them but I can’t

[stone stump]

you're asking for too much

[tight delta]

Maybe 😔

[frail quartz]

They're planning on adding them, but they weren't included in 1.0 due to clipping issues

[tight delta]

Ah, I see. Thanks for this much needed info

[amber dock]

They'll likely come back when lip syncing is added

if I had to guess

[crude prism]

lip sync and face covers in the same update

[stone stump]

revolutionary lip syncing technology

[crisp aurora]

how do people have a black heavy vest

[clever raven]

Is there only one mission?

[shy tulip]

No, you start off with one and unlock more as you play in commander and practice.

[clever raven]

Oh ok thanks

[tacit gull]

It's a bug, if you have no vest equipped and you equip the heavy vest you get the legacy carrier

If you want to have it without the bug there is a mod called legacy alpha swat on nexus

[crisp aurora]

tysm

[celest scarab]

any advice regarding S-ranking Cherryessa Farm/Carriers of the Vine? I'm running solo with AI companions and generally am doing alright with a lot of gas and beanbags, but after I clear the basement and ascend up into the gardens my guys get massacred. Even more worried about dealing with courtyard—please advise

[stone bay]

how do i get the little practice map in ron

like the wooden map with wooden doors and stuff

[stone stump]

it's not a map, it's a part of the lobby

[sharp fox]

can void pretty please with a cherry on top fix the "move to exit" command with the civs

[river tide]

facts they never secure theirselves and i have to go back post mission completion and cuff them

[wanton mountain]

for me it either works fine or all are standing there there not complying so i gotta bash every single one of them. I just stopped doing that because it's not worth the gamble.

[stone bay]

I just S-ranked Ides of March.

[candid pier]

W

[stone bay]

Is there a fix for the AI not being able to throw for shit? Cause the AI can’t throw for shit.

[tight delta]

My friend says he can’t change the style of his gas mask to tinted, orange or green because he doesn’t see it as an option, do any of y’all have this problem?

[jolly verge]

fm53 gasmask is supporter edition only, does your friend have it?

[tight delta]

Damn, I didn’t know

[fathom sun]

So i noticed on a piece of evidence called untracable weapon that on the slide it says Big shot ranch you guys think thats where its from?

[low lichen]

I just realized the cops don't know how to sight their optics in

The bullet impacts under the reticle (at least at close range)

[sharp geyser]

That's called parallax

[low lichen]

that's not what parallax is

[lost inlet]

over the bore or sight height

[low lichen]

It should be sighted so the reticle sits where the bullet impacts

Ig the eotech isn't boresighted in this game

[stone bay]

Typical LSPD

[wraith basin]

Yeah, saw this as well especially with iron sights

[sick patrol]

is this a game where ypu can put 1000 of hourse bevore it gets boring?

[lost inlet]

no

for me at least

[pallid heart]

ai is too one dimensional for that to be the case

[crude prism]

The optics in this game are boresighted (parallel/perfect straight), you'll always have the natural gap between optic/barrel, so you'll be shooting low regardles of range, as RoN doesn't do ballistic drop/travel/etc

[pallid heart]

even if they do fix the sixth sense bullshit that the AI like to pull off the enemies in this game all act in the same exact manner

except the crackheads

[low lichen]

not true

[umbral oar]

wat does sixth sense mean

[crude prism]

x-ray vision

[pallid heart]

in what way do different enemies act dynamically

some have heavier vests some dont and they all carry automatic weapons

[low lichen]

The PMC guys are more dangerous than the gas station robbers, have better weapons, and have callouts

The ex-vets in the hotel will call out for reloads and give each other cover

[lost inlet]

bruh, the bots in ron are all the same. The only differences is the model, voiceline, guns and armor

[pallid heart]

ive never seen anything documenting what youre describing and i didnt notice the ex vets do anything i havent seen other AI do

[lost inlet]

exactly, they all yell then go full auto if they can while spamming the A and D keys

[umbral oar]

😀

[crude prism]

fortnite battle royale

[low lichen]

Does the g19 simulation actually do anything to suspects

[umbral oar]

its recolored normal glock

still shoots 9mm

[low lichen]

Can you swap your game to private after making a lobby

[warm stag]

Nah

Not without mods

[low lichen]

Rip

I wish you could equip the taser with the shield

[robust cove]

How can I unlock more maps on commander mode

I am stuck with the MBs per second and the gas station

[stone bay]

You have to play them to further progress.

[robust cove]

So I have to get a certain score?

[stone bay]

there is any way in the set to switch to the tazer with keybind?

[robust cove]

If you have a pistol and taser equipped you can close 2 again I know

[vital tide]

you have to be alive when finishing the mission

you can't let the AI do it for you

maybe you also have to get all the objectives? im not sure

[robust cove]

Ok.

[frail quartz]

The soft objectives are a requirement to be able to finish the map, other objectives like bringing in VIPs alive aren't necessarily required, but recomended if you want to get a higher score

[stone bay]

You have to get at mininum a C to progress

[robust cove]

Ok. So if I get a C or higher I unlock the next map

[stone bay]

Yes

[carmine cairn]

i had a dream last night that the 1.1 update dropped and i was looking at the patch notes on Discord, then i woke up and saw it dropped and looked at the patch notes, then i woke up and saw it dropped and looked at the patch notes, then i woke up again and saw there was no update

[prime wing]

Perdio su mente

[umbral oar]

that dream sounds angelical

[carmine cairn]

i was real sad after i woke up for real, but it had its angelical moment

[tacit gull]

you look at the maclanky and think about how tasty it is

[wraith basin]

Binty pls

[sharp fox]

updates are truly tasty

[tacit gull]

Maybe we're all tasty

[olive shuttle]

how do i fix the infinite black loading screen when starting the game?

[sharp fox]

exit and try opening it up again

[olive shuttle]

i did that

i also updated all my drivers

i did something and it works now nvm

[olive shuttle]

more issues, whenever i try to load in to something and i reach the 100% completion my game freezes

[low lichen]

SR-16 my beloved

[vagrant sleet]

i despise this games sald time both times they went on sale after i bought a different game

[uncut spoke]

Thoughts on RON possibly coming to console? I say Bad

[shy tulip]

Why is that a bad

[sharp fox]

we HATE console players

[uncut spoke]

Console would bring in more toxic people

Some games just aren’t made for console

[frail quartz]

I don't think "Because the community is bad" is a valid excuse for not expanding to other platforms

[prime wing]

if anything the game is not ready in the first place, i dont think consoles bad is a good argument here

[umbral oar]

i would definitely play on a controller

[uncut spoke]

RON is a very focus demanding game, and undoubtedly mouse is quicker then controller so if relapse mission is hard (hospital) on PC imagine how it would be on console

Plusss, it still has its many flaws on PC. Not ready to expand out to different platforms and have to deal with 3 different platforms issues and bug fixes

[shy tulip]

You say that, but wait until they find a way to mod subway runners onto the ATAK

[vagrant sleet]

game decides to go on sale after i buy ultrakill

this has happened two times in a row now

[pastel hill]

I already do I pretty much have mine similar to how R6 is laid out and it works perfectly

Only downside is I made it where leaning only works when ads so I can’t physically lean without standing still and putting myself in compromising position

[misty island]

Hello, lads! Haven't been following the game for a while. Any news on the first DLC, that was supposed to come this spring?

Or the Void haven't run out of money yet, so they will release it later?

[pastel hill]

Nope sorry mate haven’t been keeping tabs

[pulsar token]

I swear last time I played the game I was able to pick so many different maps/missions to play, but now my save file is gone and Im doing some sort of campaign. What happened?

I remember doing a mission at a drug house but now I can't pick anything other than gas station

[shy tulip]

You have to pass missions to unlock the others, game modes are not available anymore

If you want to play all the maps quickly, you can play them on practice and they're unlocked forever (on that mode.) Or play MP and have them all unlocked at the start

[atomic loom]

Hi, do you guys recommend ron. Would i be able to find a group that is semi serious easily?

Thinking of playing it on the weekends when i am nit in college

[low lichen]

my group has a couple of people that take it seriously but we also have a couple that fuck around

Also I would like to once again say, SR-16 my beloved. Top tier rifle

[lost inlet]

no F90 or G36c the goat

[wraith basin]

B1301 "Entryman" for sure.

[stone stump]

congrats, it's the worst rifle you can use in the game

[low lichen]

damn that's crazy

[earnest phoenix]

isnt the 416 the worst

[stone stump]

416 redeems itself a bit by having a shorter barrel

it still sucks of course

[misty island]

For me, RoN at the moment does not cost more than maximum 20 EUR, so I am strongly against paying the full price. Public lobbies are a mess, so you should find a friend/-s that you will play with. I completed the whole game in duo - only me and my friend. It is somewhat challenging, but doable, even for S rank(perfect runs). The game has a lot of bugs and performance issues that never addressed and resolved. Singleplayer is a mess, because all AI i the game is just shit. Your teammates get stuck, confused or ignore commands and it takes some time to learn, on how to "unstuck" them. Suspects' AI is not as broken as it used to be, but still stupid as a rock. For example, they can see and shoot you after seeing 1 pixel of your model, where no real human will see. After obtaining your position once, they will know where you are and go flank you all around the map. So AI in this game is as simple as it possible can be. Oh, and game can randomly delete your safe file and you will lose all progress, with out the ability to restore it in any way and the issue was never acknowleged by the developers.

[misty island]

If you really want to see the state of the game right now, I advice you to see my messages in #🐜archived-bug-reports-channel and #📩feedback-reports-channel. You can see up to February, because game state did not change much since. Maybe even up to the release, as the only drastic change was toning down Suspect's AI wall banging ability.

[atomic loom]

Thanks for this essay of an answer.
I am not worried about the price, just if i will get to play it with someone. Guess i have to convince my friends to try it.

[stone stump]

the save deletion is most likely caused by a broken steam cloud implementation

only ever happened to me when i installed the game on another device. the "cloud" save was overwritten by the new installation (where there was no saves present yet)

[misty island]

Welp, as there is no server browser, you will be connected to a random people. Mostly, it is just running and gunning down every suspect with almost no teamwork or tactics. Sometimes there are griefers, like, I had and guy, who was "accidently" shooting teammates till they die and then just dunned down any civilian. Also, there is another dude, that is really popular. A preacher guy. He just preaches in his lobbies The Bible and that is it. Unfortenately, you can not block or ban them, so you will still encounter them. Also, there are no "cheats" per say, but some guys may be using them.

[misty island]

I do not think I can do anything on my end and shitty devs just ignore the problem. Got the watch, but the cloud fucked up? Your loss.

[stone stump]

the preacher guy is mostly a problem in the US IIRC though

[misty island]

Oh, the dude is Czech, so he will not have a problem, I guess.

[misty island]

But the game is better with friends. It is on sale right now, although, still too much for such a disappointment.

[misty island]

So grab some friends, some Prazdroj and it will be fun.

[loud vale]

I've got a group of my own.

We're both chill, and serious players.

[misty island]

Are you just flexing, that you have friends?

[loud vale]

I'd definitely recommend the game.

[loud vale]

I'm trying to answer the question that was asked.

[misty island]

Oh, yeah, right. Your message reminded me of something.

[loud vale]

I can't say I know what you're getting at.

[misty island]

There are also #🔎looking-for-players and #📌unit-promo . While the first channel is for a quick session, second is more for a group, that will be quite serious.

[misty island]

About existance of #📌unit-promo .

Thank you!

[loud vale]

That's irrelevant because I wasn't promoting anything.

[misty island]

No, but your message still reminded me of the existence of that channel and it is likely to find there a serious group, then hopping on servers, so OP can get a better answer and understanding.

[loud vale]

Oh, I see.

I misunderstood.

You're probably right there.

[lone comet]

My team in swat 4 is horrible at staying quiet

[river tide]

just make them quiet then

[lone comet]

They knock trash cans over

[river tide]

just put them back up

[waxen grove]

anything new?

[hollow citrus]

Spring dlc where are youuuu

[waxen grove]

at this stage i cannot recommend RoN. If you are talking about finding a group via matchmaking its not that good and basicly requires you to have some friends to get the most out of it.
Dont get me wrong Its a fun game its just:
A. Overpriced (do not pick this up at full price like ever)
B. Full of bugs that havent been patched in years not to mention the ones that poped up on "Release" that has yet to be adressed in the last 6 months.
C. Devs Love to keep us in the dark

[loud vale]

That's a bit of an exaggeration.

[sharp fox]

shoot em, that usually works at making people quiet

[hollow citrus]

not really it does cost a lot for what it is and devs always kept us guessing. aswell as bugs that are being adressed for way too long thats all true.

took a year for 1.0 to come out and i still cant tell if that was worth a year of waiting or not

[loud vale]

How are they keeping us guessing when they're constantly putting out development briefings on Steam, can you explain that to me?

[loud vale]

No one is forcing you to play the game.

[half crescent]

I don’t recommend RON on steam. It’s still one of my favorite games. Take it as you will.

[hollow citrus]

it's May 26th and there has been no update for when DLC gonna go out, same as year of waiting for 1.0, there wasn't clear dates or clear answers to what and when its gonna be. at the launch of beta game struggled to keep up with monthly updates and they had to delay 1 update for more than 2 months because of that poor scheduling. and yet after even giving as much time as they need they don't succeed do patch up the bugs like the audio or flashlight bug that been in game for like forever.

[hollow citrus]

so why should i recommend the game if i need to be forced to play it lol

[loud vale]

Things happen sometimes.

It's really not that serious.

[loud vale]

I never told you to recommend the game.

[hollow citrus]

well look at steam charts, its been how much? like 4-6 months since 1.0 and online have gone from 50k to like 2-4k players, the game really lives from update to update.

[loud vale]

I also said that no one is forcing you to play.

[loud vale]

If it's such a bad game then why are you here?

There's tons of other good games that you could play.

If this one isn't meeting your own standards.

That's meant as respectfully as possible.

[hollow citrus]

it's not a bad idea, it was fun untill it got stale due to no replayability. i juiced out every possible thing out of this game apart from playing all modded maps i guess.

[hollow citrus]

thats why im playing helldivers at the moment while i wait for this "spring" dlc to come

[loud vale]

There's no point in losing any sleep or stressing over it.

That's the only thing I'm trying to get at.

[loud vale]

I get where you're coming from.

Everyone is different.

[hollow citrus]

im not stressing about it, im simply waiting for new content.

[loud vale]

It just seems like you're quite upset about it.

Some people would rather complain instead of provide positive feedback.

I'm not saying that's what you're doing but the developers can only do so much.

I bet it's not easy doing what they do, I will say that much.

[hollow citrus]

well for being a part of this game since the launch on steam i was never once satisfied with approach to updates ever since they ditched the monthly update idea, it takes too long to cook content you will play a week and get bored, along with some bugs.

[loud vale]

They can't please everyone all the time.

That's not how anything works.

[hollow citrus]

well man steam charts are talking for themselves, everyone gets bored and its not good for the game. if there would be more replayable content so people won't hop update after update to the game that would be amazing.

[loud vale]

You can't speak for everyone.

[hollow citrus]

i dont really have to, if you just look at online spikes people are coming up in tens of thousands to play for 2-3 weeks after update and then it gradually lowers over a span of a month back to one thousands and then to 2-4k as right now.

[loud vale]

What's that matter?

[sharp fox]

if you want more content, download more maps

[loud vale]

That's exactly what I've done.

There's some real good ones out there.

[inland jetty]

@sharp fox no way...

☠️

[inland jetty]

does anyone have any idea if the dlcs for this game will be paid or not

[fossil palm]

no Idea

[sharp fox]

im pretty sure it’ll be paid

wouldnt be surprised if it was

[fossil palm]

but then you will think for the price of the game, it might be a tiny bit cheaper

[sharp fox]

❌

[prime wing]

Maps are still playable through the host, even if you dont have the dlc

[inland jetty]

The dlcs are just maps?

[stone bay]

Does anyone know what counts as friendly fire for the purposes of scoring?

[sharp fox]

well, if you bash, shoot or flashbang/sting your ai, it’ll be friendly fire from my experiences

[stone bay]

So it counts if they get caught in my grenade’s area of effect?

[prime wing]

Theres an announcement on steam detailing the content

But maps are accessible to everyone as long as the hosts owns them

[river tide]

probably paid

[river tide]

grenades shouldn’t count as that

[worldly quarry]

how did mindjot afford to give their security guards chinese temp reading helmets

[river tide]

illegal activity

[clever mango]

so can i play ready or not without a internet connection if i just wanna play by my self

[ivory kiln]

hey i'm back

got pretty bored with the game after 140 hrs

[clever mango]

op

[ivory kiln]

what

[clever mango]

hiii

[ivory kiln]

hewwo

[clever mango]

im new, hope you are well

[stone bay]

Yes

[clever mango]

AYY

[river tide]

the game is easy just requires muscle memory

[ocean plover]

anyone know if theres going to be a newsletter ?

[fallen finch]

anyone else experience issues with ides of march? game crashes every time upon starting the map

[lost inlet]

nope

[opaque birch]

cz i spent money on it and i want it to become a good game

By complaining ofc... wait u right nvm

[true jungle]

the biweekly newsletter should become triweekly since they can't post one every two weeks

[lost inlet]

fr

[placid ore]

Monthly actually... it's sad. One more month to the end of spring, so they have a month to release the DLC. Or delay it ofc...

[umbral oar]

idgaf im nabbing the dlc as soon as it’s out

[stone bay]

Same

[true wedge]

Hi

[stone bay]

Good morning

[sharp fox]

happens when i do it

[thorny warren]

only 3 missions away from medal of valor (just did an S run on relapse, spent half the time looking for the last two civilians...)

i wonder how they shoot me through walls so easily

[clever mango]

im trying to S rank the second one, and i cant figure it out

[half crescent]

Idk what the “second one” is but consider using a lot of gas grenades and taking it slow to not need to repeat missions.
Psst - I think gas grenades have no chance of friendly fire penalties with gas masks compared to things like flashbang or stinger.

[carmine cairn]

looks like my dream wont be coming true

[granite trout]

Guy named ron

[frail quartz]

"Alright class, today we're gonna beat Ron to death"

[umbral oar]

kid named to death

[gleaming fable]

-50 unauthorized use of force

[stone bay]

Why is split stack the default formation, and why can't that be changed in settings?

[buoyant pecan]

RON not freeze and make me have to restart my steam deck challenge (IMPOSSIBLE)

[stone bay]

Your first problem was attempting to play this game on a Steam Deck

[stone bay]

has anyone else noticed disabling the full-camera zoom when ADS fucks with the magnification level

[wanton mountain]

I have a question about ron dlc. It's said that it will be free for supporters. I bought the game way before 1.0. that makes me a supporter, right? I bought cheaper version but i'm not sure if that's counted as supporter.

[shy tulip]

If you bought supporter edition, yes

If you bought only the base game, no

[wanton mountain]

So it was non supporter and supporter before release? I thought it was regular supporter and deluxe

[shy tulip]

It was buying the game, and buying a supporter package to give extra. Prior to early access, it was preordering the game, and getting access to the alpha

[wanton mountain]

So no free dlc for me. Sad, i guess i will have to buy it.

[gleaming fable]

it would be pretty cool if void decided to recreate the north hollywood shootout.

[stone bay]

💯

[waxen grove]

You sure about that, another week with no bug fixes and no communication. And even when we get comms it’s empty promises.

Oh I feel sorry for anyone who bought supporters

[waxen grove]

Yeah no free content from here on out sadly. They release just released the game into 1.0 so they could get more money out of us

[peak sapphire]

EA moment

[humble mauve]

All content updates are free. At least all current plans are just for the new maps + cosmetics to be DLC.

from the announcement

[spiral surge]

Was just playing ready or not and didn't realize that they added trailer to the game great addition tbh seeing them come in and get the civvies and evidence

[waxen grove]

oh so dlc are map packs? is it atleast a few maps stringed into a story like s4 tss

[humble mauve]

Essentially from how it sounds

[waxen grove]

i just hope fast food isnt in the dlc pack. . .

i want that map back but i already paid for that bugger im not avout to pay for it a second time

[humble mauve]

Any changes to the base game (bug fixes, updates, etc) are still free and i think will come alongside with this dlc

[stone bay]

I’ve been playing with the zombies mod for a couple weeks, and arguably the best part is not having to hear TOC go “hurr durr rules of engagement” when I fuckin’ shoot someone.

Because that gets old after your fiftieth raid

[winter pendant]

Somebody did a pretty nice mod finishing it up. A bit short but it's out there. And mods are really easy to install, just throw the pak file in the pak folder and you're good to go

Also I'm a supporter with 700 hours in RON and I'm completely happy with the game so maybe quit using that as an excuse to discourage newcomers thx 🙂 also bought a copy or two of standard ed for friends

https://www.nexusmods.com/readyornot/mods/3996 here's a link to that mod as well

[tacit gull]

You definetly don't need that as an "excuse" to discourage newcomers to buying into this unfinished, shell of a game, if they started selling fastfood despite it being a map in the game in early access people would be rightly unhappy as that would basically be padding the DLC with content that was already in the game

[winter pendant]

Wasn't really referring to that, was referring to "feeling sorry" for supporters. I don't need anybody feeling sorry for me just cause my attitude is better

Also if it's such a miserable shell of a game, stop hanging out in the discord whining about it and play something else! Or do you actually like it enough to play anyway?

And no, they're not gonna sell you back the fast food map. They've been pretty clear about what the dlc maps will involve.

[tacit gull]

No, they really haven't, i'm here in the discord because i want the game to be good, while it is not. If i and many other people would have settled wtih anything VOID put out then the 1.0 build might aswell be the first early access release

Personally i'm REALLY happy i didn't buy into supporter and really unhappy that i bought the game for my friends hoping it wouldn't come out as a complete mess

[winter pendant]

If you have so little faith in the devs, do you think they're gonna listen to you on discord?

[tacit gull]

Sometimes you scream at the VOID and the VOID screams back, what can i say

[winter pendant]

Funny

[tacit gull]

I'm still anxious about 1.1, but i'm hoping it turns the game around

I definetly know there's some very talented people working at the studio, however the community communication is super lacking and upper management considered 1.0 an epic prank

[winter pendant]

I will simply say that the opinion that the game is uNpLaYaBlE tRaSh is definitely not a universal one, despite yes the many bugs, rough edges, unfinished features, and so on. There are people out there having fun. That's really my point. Don't waste your time not having fun or decrying other people's fun.

[tacit gull]

The thing is that you can have fun on any game, no matter how unfinished it is, that's not really my point

[stone stump]

people also have fun throwing bricks, doesn't really prove anything

[tacit gull]

You could especially play a game where you throw cubes around in an empty space and have fun with friends online, that's how i got most of my 400 hours

[winter pendant]

I don't think you will ever be satisfied with the state of it. If they fixed everything with a magic wand tomorrow, y'all would be saying it was two years too late. I don't know what you expect to accomplish by moaning about it online, but it's annoying and depressing

[tacit gull]

Nothing they will do will ever fix the dumpster fire 1.0 was, that is true, however i still want the game to improve and have well thought out systems that actually work, it's not like i don't appreciate the additions they are making to the game, but you have to ask "why the fuck wasn't this in 1.0?"

Cyberpunk is a perfect example of a game that came out in a PRE-ALPHA state and still manged to turn it around

Though of course that was done with intelligent marketing on top of actually fixing the entire game

[stone stump]

and i don't know what are you trying to accomplish here now, as the majority of the active people here do criticize the game on a regular basis

[stone stump]

tbf cyberpunk "core" was more or less finished

[winter pendant]

I occasionally look for people to play with here 🙃 crazy, I know

[tacit gull]

RON also has most of it's systems in the game, the thing is that they're either disabled, improperly tuned or just horribly designed

[winter pendant]

I see your point

Bye

[stone stump]

[stone stump]

i guess being a hypocrite worked this time

[knotty marsh]

should I buy RoN today?

[fervent arch]

should i buy the game even tho i dont have any friends that own the game?

[sharp fox]

you can always play with bots

[fervent arch]

is it fun with bots?

[knotty marsh]

no

but you can queue into games with randoms that are most of the time really serious and tactical

and theres lfg groups in this discord

[fervent arch]

are there groups that take 14 yo?

[knotty marsh]

ima buy RoN today actually

[knotty marsh]

literally any age bro

[fervent arch]

im looking at #📌unit-promo and all i see is 15 the youngest group

[knotty marsh]

plus im boutta buy the game so if u wanna run RoN with me im literally on everyday

like all day, cuz i got nun to do until I leave for cali in two weeks

[fervent arch]

yea sure ill maybe ask my dad im still not sure i dont like asking for stuff so expensive online

[knotty marsh]

its on sale rn

[fervent arch]

hmm its also my birthday so im pretty sure he will buy but still

[knotty marsh]

do you not have money for it?

how much cash do you have

[fervent arch]

i dont have a credit card/ a way to pay online

[knotty marsh]

just tell him to take you to walmart or sum and they have steam giftcards

im bouta get two today

[fervent arch]

i dont have a wolmart at my country

[knotty marsh]

what country are you in

[fervent arch]

prefer not to say atm

[knotty marsh]

im not gonna rob you lmao, im tryna help

what kind of stores do you have, like local stores with gift cards

[fervent arch]

i dont have any

[knotty marsh]

oh shit

yeah then thats an issue, idk what to tell you

[fervent arch]

ill probably ask him but i always feel bad when i do

[sharp fox]

with my experience sometimes

they can make you fumble at times

[knotty marsh]

just get some cash, give him the money and tell him to buy it online, so technically hes not spending any money, hes just taking ur cash and buying sum that u want online w/ it

thats what i used to do lol

[fervent arch]

he never lets me pay him to buy me stuff

[knotty marsh]

wild

just ask him, then sneak money into his wallet or smth

[fervent arch]

he buys me everytime i ask him but i feel bad all the time

[knotty marsh]

W dad ong

[fervent arch]

true

[knotty marsh]

u should go do it rn

you have enough money for it yeah?

[fervent arch]

yea

[icy wraith]

i agree, partially. i still think the base game is pretty solid.

but it does need a good number of mods. when we get them, though... 🤌

the real problem with contemporary games is that devs don't play their own games the bare minimum to have it properly balanced and working. They don't. That's an irrefutable fact

QA test players don't count for that. We need devs to play it, cause they must know the systems to play and tweak until it's just right. That's what i had to do to get my AI mod in a good state

and i just know they didn't do it, and still refuse to do it

[sharp fox]

nuh uh

[tacit gull]

The thing is that playing the game as a developer probably won't showcase a lot of the issues it has, as being a dev or even QA testing a game will essentially ruin it for you and breed complacency.
There will be things you think you know but in reality certain systems either don't work as intended and you can't tell or there's some other crazy stuff going on

I don't know if VOID plays their game to be fair, but even if they did i'm sure there's some stuff they're not aware of

[icy wraith]

" as being a dev or even QA testing a game will essentially ruin it for you and breed complacency." That's only if you're a lazy ass and will fool yourself with excuses not to continue working. If you have it clear how real life CQB engagements play out, how Hostage Rescue and Barricades play out, etc, you will know if your game depicts a minimum semblance of the real thing or not

and the game vanilla is so unbalanced that they either don't play it or they have no f... clue

[tacit gull]

It has nothing to do with "being lazy" It has everything to do with the fact that developing a game and seeing it's guts will make you see it completely different from regular players

[stone bay]

💯

[icy wraith]

still. it IS a solid base to improve upon.

[icy wraith]

i disagree. it shouldn't 'spoil' your vision when playing.

that's the ONLY place where the game must work. no matter how beautifully organized the code is. i prefer a messy as hell code with a solid game than a painting on the wall code with a shitty game

[icy wraith]

case in point: check Void devs. Have you EVER seen them 'playing Ready or Not'?
like, ever?

i haven't

[midnight goblet]

whats the default helmet u gedt

[crisp aurora]

can we ban this watchmen guy

[stone bay]

Does the game work good with a controller or no.

[stone bay]

There are controller configs available. I've personally found them to be hit or miss.

[stone bay]

Ok, thanks

[pliant musk]

is there a way to more easily edit the loadout profiles? i have tried to create two saves (one with gas masks and one with anti flash) and even if i switch the profiles somehow the team doesnt change their loadout. maybe i jsut cant use the menu properly :) . can i edit it somehow else then ingame or can someone explain it better?

[stone stump]

are you changing their loadout or only yours?

[crystal hearth]

how does one do "A Lethal Obsession"?
i just get shot as soon as i walk 3 metres forward

[stone stump]

skill issue

[next olive]

find target and click on him with a LTL

[stone stump]

tacticals

[crystal hearth]

what

whats a ltl

[lost inlet]

less lethal

[sharp geyser]

mirrorgun

[pliant musk]

everyone seperately. then i try to save and it resets to what i had before

where is this saved?

[stone stump]

loadouts are automatically saved, but the presets aren't

[stone stump]

doesn't really matter, it's not human readable

[umbral oar]

you readied my not,,,,,

[thorny warren]

just did an S run on the car dealership map and i can't find the last civilian anywhere

toc be like: roger that, you need to expand your search
like in trepang2

i've been playin hide and seek for quite a while and this is frustrating, im really considering restarting the mission

[uneven monolith]

You can't order you element to search and secure? They'll usually find the last citizens

[thorny warren]

no because im playing with noswat

[uneven monolith]

Ah balls, good on you for the S soloing that though!

[crystal hearth]

does "join public server" slot you into your region or is it random?

[thorny warren]

thanks, i only got 3 mission left until all of them are done.
so the car dealership, hide and seek and valley of the dolls

[crystal hearth]

and is playing not in your region make you get like 3408965073894537895ping?

[uneven monolith]

@thorny warren That's wild lol S ranking them all with AI was a huge pain nevermind solo XD

[jolly verge]

it's will try to find host near you, maximum ping is about 300ms it's can find,
anything above will just throw an error

[thorny warren]

it's ok with a beanbag shotgun and enough wedges to not get flanked

[uneven monolith]

@thorny warren Yeah true, it would take me forever with the amount of wedging and un-wedging I'd be doing lol

[pliant musk]

i found it and also found a website to read them a bit but not everything. i just wait till the menu gets better or sth :)

wait the profile is for every person alone?

not all 4 in one

that makes more sense

[stone stump]

i find it hard to believe

[empty zephyr]

Alright its been 3 or 4 months since I last played, has the game changed yet?

[crude prism]

[empty zephyr]

Ill just take that as a no

What a bummer

[opaque birch]

gas

[opaque birch]

Shit optimization and dumb swat ai but they nerfed suspect ai now they arent CSGO Global Elites anymore

you can shoot back now they put pressing mouse1 into the game

[umbral oar]

holy crud dx11 is something else

[shut sail]

Hello boys! I'm pretty new here, and i'm not sure where to put this but i have been playing RoN since July 2022, i missed the 1.0 launch due to work, and i saw that my language was available for the UI of the game! I would love to volunteer to help advise in the translation of the text for my language (PT-BR) and help finish the parts that are not done yet.

Some of the issues i remember from the top of my head are: The "Select Mission" pop-up being half english and half portuguese (Aperte F para "Select Misson"), the "Fire" option in the rooster in commander mode being "Atirar" (that means firing your gun) instead of "Demitir".

I just want to help make this game more accessible for people that struggle a bit with English

[stone stump]

it's all machine translated, including english

[robust cove]

Looking for a nice tactical group. Any suggestions. I noticed that most have an age limit. I am 13 so I am trying to find one that will allow me in

[waxen grove]

Nope. No bug fixes, no optimisations and no new content

[waxen grove]

Personally I’m glad I got it on sale during ea. and I’m glad I got my friends to do the same. Had I paid full price I probably would of fallen into full apathy and uninstalled

[waxen grove]

I saw that and need to try it out. Still gonna be miffed if it gets released in the map back.

[tawdry trench]

Didnt realize RON was so brutal, was running ides of march and had a guy try to corner check me and blew off his whole forearm with buckshot

[waxen grove]

Totally agree , if the base game wasn’t solid I would of dipped years ago

[waxen grove]

That guy is weird. Havent found him in Ron yet but encounter the guy in phasmo

[waxen grove]

That’s the crazy cop killer level right

[tawdry trench]

Nah its the apartment with the vets

[frail quartz]

You should see the neck-shot animations

[tawdry trench]

I did later in the level, some guy tried to shoot me through a luggage cart and got his head popped

[frail quartz]

That isn't exactly the animation I was referring to, but that works too

[waxen grove]

Oh it’s the ex military cult.

[tawdry trench]

yeah, honestly feel kinda bad about it

if you look at the guys after you drop them they have prosthetics

[split slate]

Why ow why did I spend so long waiting to buy this game? I guess have being burned so bad by takedown red sabre and then again by zero hour, I was scared to be done a third time, but my ow my, the training mission alone is enough to make me remember hours spent playing swat 4

[prime wing]

you made a good decision

by waiting for a sale

[bright rapids]

Bro: what do you listen to when playing RoN?

Me: https://youtu.be/_Fl_LJBixfg?si=jOtvttVc4k3swk_C

[magic osprey]

How many people have the issue with the cursor flickering on the side of the screen

[bright rapids]

I had it for like 2 Attemps on Greased Palms

just reset your game

[umbral oar]

astrals ai is pretty cool

[split slate]

Question, how do I pickup the keycard in the petrol station?

https://imgur.com/a/DZa0vRq

[jolly verge]

you need to crouch and look a bit under it

or just ctrl+alt+s if you can't find promt

[split slate]

that worked

[split slate]

https://imgur.com/a/nYzyzer boom

[vagrant sleet]

i bought ultrakill for 40 dollars the next day ready or not on sale for 40 dollars

[long spoke]

isthere going to be a zoomable lpvo scope??

[stone bay]

They’d have to make the LPVOs usable first

[umbral oar]

alright brixley camped out in the shop with 2 of his guards

that was unexpected

[wraith basin]

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/hdJI3_8zG7A/maxresdefault.jpg any better?

[humble mauve]

this one too

[wraith basin]

blue posted better one, yeah

[humble mauve]

I think there may be another one out there but I completely forgot where it would be

so that's the highest I have

[magic hearth]

https://tenor.com/view/power-kw2-gif-20515852

[inland jetty]

no

[neat owl]

please can someone help me

i was playing this game for 8hours yesterday and i woke up this morning and it didnt save???

im so angry

i love this game but it doesnt save anythibg other than practice mode?

pls someone help me!

[stone stump]

it saves automatically when needed

[night seal]

When is the zombies update coming?

[grave lotus]

Hey guys, i'm moving up from swat 4. What r some gud maps for solo practice in RoN (aside from the killhouse)?

[night seal]

What's the zombie update btw

[hearty scroll]

How often do people use map? I see a lot of signs and symbols to use on it but not many people using it to plan before approach.

[stone bay]

Probably the first one because it’s small

[inland jetty]

wat

[solemn cape]

maybe the 23MB/s good ammount of rooms to clear, multiple stories. few hidden objectives.

[grave lotus]

Thanks yall, i’ll be checking them out

[tacit gull]

Not at all, not unless you're in some RP unit

[somber quail]

how many gb is the game?

[jolly verge]

56.6gb

[somber quail]

ty

[thorny warren]

the suspects on the car dealer ship saying "i will remember your face"...
yeah they will remember my ballistic mask

[night seal]

There is a zombie update coming this summer

Just curious because I can't find intel

[robust cove]

Is the school map base game or a mod

[jolly verge]

base

[white escarp]

I do, but not that often

[inland jetty]

really?

i heard there's already a mod for it

if the zombie thing is a base game update not a dlc then i would get the game rn

[robust cove]

Why can’t I send a anxious officer to therapy

[jolly verge]

too low stress, you allowed send them to therapy only when they at Stressed level

[robust cove]

Ok

[ripe solar]

Guys, what would you consider the most effective loadout for the Kawayu Beach level?

[wraith basin]

Alot of CS gas.

[ripe solar]

Yeah, true.

[buoyant pecan]

Not sure if I should get SCP 5K, Zero Hour or Counterstrike Source

Probably CSS cause I’m broke as fuck and it’ll help with Gmod anyways

Got CSS

I’m 20 years late but I hear it’s still active and apparently actually playable unlike CSGO

[raven schooner]

just got spawn killed on lethal obsession 👍

my officers yelled at someone and then i got shot in the head from the balcony

watching my team clear the level now

[river tide]

almost happened to me on ends of the earth, spawned on the beach and i got sniped from a dude on the road but i survived barely and my team mowed him down

[civic zinc]

have any of you ever had the bug where if you end a map with night vision. the next map you play has less fog than usual

as though the game is rendering the level with night vision but without the colour filter

that's what i guess is the case but ir lasers are still invisible

[odd crow]

@small oriole yo talk here then you dont have to wait 2 min

[winter pendant]

Yes

[inland jetty]

gmod additional resources are free to download, including CSS ones

[stone bay]

Will shotguns ever get buffed? they feel horrible to play

[strong sonnet]

worthless

[jolly verge]

whats wrong with shotguns?

[stone bay]

point blank range 0 damage

had to load 8 shells into some guy not even 3 metres away from me

[jolly verge]

with what ammo?

[stone bay]

buckshot

[jolly verge]

you trying pen armor with buckshot?

[stone bay]

didnt have armour

he was flesh

[jolly verge]

suspect model don't reflect if he is armored or not

[civic zinc]

crack

[jolly verge]

buckshot always 1 shot if hitting bare torso

[stone bay]

maybe he was drugged up on meth

[jolly verge]

or if you dismeber limbs/head

[jolly verge]

Thankfully there is no such thing. Try shoot lower parts of limbs or aim at the head, buckshot will dismember them, resulting in insta kill

and you can snipe with it from any distance, it's have lowest drop fall damage compare to slugs

[midnight snow]

what? I used shotguns to clear the last couple missions in one go because they are 1 tap snipers

[tender pawn]

M1014 is one of the best guns in the game imo. Insane range and a semi auto one shot sniper

[buoyant pecan]

I might jus say fuck it and bring a shotgun to Relapse this mission getting on my damn nerves