👮ron-discussion

[stable kernel]

But the maps have different story reasons than real life, so it’s only aesthetic inspiration

[opaque birch]

yeah

[loud rivet]

How do you get lower view model like this #🔧modding-chat message?

[jolly verge]

Gunfighter mod

[frail quartz]

Elephant was named after a movie by the same name that focused on a columbine-esc shooting

[knotty steeple]

Id love that map to have an actual raid mode or something with a shoot out. Really enjoyed it for plot reasons but seems such a waste to leave it as a "walk in and beanbag a couple of guys"

[vernal bane]

Old Slope:
Bring grenade launcher and kill both suspects in one shot

[solar raptor]

hey fellas havent played the game in a while are trailers working now?

[stable kernel]

Only in practice mode, and I think only on some maps only after all suspects and civs have been arrested

So half implemented as usual

[misty island]

One more inspiration for Idea of March is 2017 Las Vegas mass shooting.

[wispy sequoia]

Would you guys say this game is worth the money? It looks cool but I don’t want a game that doesn’t have good replayability/not many missions

[wispy sequoia]

I see. That’s pretty cool

[silk junco]

nah

[misty island]

No.

[misty island]

Better wait for the discount.
One option is to look at my message history in #🐜archived-bug-reports-channel and #📩feedback-reports-channel and decide for yourself. Some people will disagree with me, but it is your opinion.

[wispy sequoia]

How much did you buy it for?

[misty island]

Also I advice to read negative reviews on Steam, as they might give you a better insight.

[wispy sequoia]

Noted

[misty island]

Around 100 €

[wispy sequoia]

Did you buy a premium version or smth?

[silk junco]

yeah it doesnt exist anymore tho

[misty island]

I have bought the game during EA, when it was around 30€ and I decoded the support the game and got the supporter bundle, which was around 70€.

Do I regret it? No. Should you buy it for 50€ now? No.

[wispy sequoia]

Wait, this is an EA game?

Oh you meant early access

[misty island]

It was till December 2023... but I still consider the game to be in EA, VOID just wanted to get money from winter sales.

[wispy sequoia]

Is this their first game?

[misty island]

Yes, if I am not mistaken.

[wispy sequoia]

How much money do you think the game is worth

Would 50% off be a good buy fe?

[vernal bane]

I’ve had pretty good success rates for finding discounts for games I wanted with it

[misty island]

20$ atm

I do not see the game costing 50€ at any time. ATM, I see how VOID can bring the game value to maybe max 40€.

[humble mauve]

no discussion of 3rd party key sites

[wispy sequoia]

That seems fair (I saw the site in the nottif)

[vernal bane]

In my opinion, I’d say $40 is the absolute max, and I myself would pay $30 max for RoN

Feel like $20 is a steal

[misty island]

How much is it now in US dollars? In USA, I mean.

[vernal bane]

Not sure, I’ll check rn

[misty island]

For the state of the game now, 20$ is fair price, I would say.

[vernal bane]

It’s $50

[misty island]

Lol, you are sitting me.

[vernal bane]

I think it’s a bit expensive for $50

[vernal bane]

#🎨ron-screenshots-and-art message

[misty island]

It is.

[vernal bane]

I based this around games similar and games I’ve played and paid for

$20 for SCP: 5K and RoN is better atm imo

[misty island]

Nah. I trust you. It is 50€, which is around 55$. I mean, I am not gay, but 5€ is 5€.

[vernal bane]

$40 is GTFO but RoN >>> GTFO even if they are different genres

$50 is just too much imo

[misty island]

Wow, interesting

[vernal bane]

Literally buy cyberpunk at that point

[misty island]

Especially, that RoN is set in cyberpunk setting, especially the sci-fi shit and etc.

[vernal bane]

[shy tulip]

Which part of RoN is cyberpunk

[vernal bane]

I don’t remember how much I paid for RoN, I might’ve gotten it on sale during EA

[shy tulip]

As much as I do wish someone updated the Trauma Team mod

[vernal bane]

At least I enjoy RoN, so I’m happy with my purchase

[misty island]

As I mena, if you remove the "high tech" part from cyberpunk, you are left with grimly setting. Decaying city, shit government, economical failure, natural disaster, people in despair.

[vernal bane]

Dystopia moment

[shy tulip]

Yeah but that's like the whole basis of cyberpunk

Cyberpunk

[misty island]

Well, ok. RoN is just punk.

[shy tulip]

Idk what I'd call RoN besides a dystopia setting

Yeah I guess, I don't quite understand what the punk part means

[humble mauve]

ron is like green day

[prime wing]

Ron is like green day meets Limp bizkit

[silk junco]

ron is like zack bower 😎

[twilit rampart]

Do the suspects still have wallhack?

[umbral oar]

Yes

[twilit rampart]

Any mod that makes it more balanced?

[vernal bane]

I’d argue no

Game got a whole lot easier after the AI nerf in my opinion

I actually wish it was back to the harder difficultly

[umbral oar]

word

[vernal bane]

But digressing, there’s a lot of rebalance mods on Nexus that you can find

Look specifically for AI overhauls and stuff

[twilit rampart]

https://www.nexusmods.com/readyornot/mods/797?tab=files&file_id=12301

I currently use this one, but I still feel that the ai ​​sometimes becomes very aggressive

or maybe I'm just bad and that's it lol

[acoustic eagle]

can you not get a B on port from playing normally?

[stable kernel]

If every suspect is dead you get just short of a B. One or two alive will get a B

[acoustic eagle]

huh only mission like that

[lavish olive]

Which shotgun should I use, benelli or remington?

[stable kernel]

I think hostpital is the same, in terms of having enough suspects to get a C if all are dead

[acoustic eagle]

i think thats only the case cuz you have to arrest the leader alive no?

[stable kernel]

Arrested suspects give 35 points, dead/incap is 5. The VIP arrest points are separate from that

[ionic gale]

I use the Nova or the Beretta 1301 as my main shotguns

[sudden marsh]

fuck no

id personally sell my dog for CSGO Skins if it meant, 1 less person to not buy this game at 50$

[kindred maple]

i wouldnt pay full price

[daring flame]

anybody else having a problem with swat ai doing nothing when you command them to search a room

literally happens every game

[umbral oar]

anyone hear the shout lines where they tell the suspect to come out of cover? those are so cool

[ionic gale]

Yeah, I would like maybe like pick it up on a sale if you really are going for it

[ancient rain]

why does rustbelt crash every server "modded map"

jesus it happens sometimes

[stable kernel]

This game does not generate the world data file very well if at all, causing disconnections in multiplayer. So if people do not have the file made already they disconnect, and might disconnect others as well. The file for rust belt is supposed to be included in the game, but it is not working as you can see.

If people load in solo and make the file it will work every time after that

[copper cypress]

Are anti-flash goggles useful in very bright places? Or just anti-flash grenades?

[ancient rain]

it ignores flashbang effects

but the rest it does not

[copper cypress]

It’s so sad

😭

[ancient rain]

the fact "Realistic" tag is even there makes it goofy

unless you mod it with AI overhaul

[ancient rain]

thanks

[warm timber]

I mean the game is in 1.0 rn. I'm sure they'll flesh out the ai and optimize the game. It is a small studio after all. like sons of the forest is still pretty buggy

even after 1.0 release

i honestly really enjoy ron regardless of the ai. tbh the broken ai makes it more scarier

its the squad ai that really dissapoints me tho. i tell red team or something to stack up and cover a room while i put a wedge in the door next to me and they don't listen because they're stuck

[coarse robin]

This game coming to console?

[stoic vortex]

getting A for Port Hoken is hard

[coarse robin]

Can someone answer my ❓

[stoic vortex]

i dont think so

[coarse robin]

There is a video on YouTube saying it is

He says check the discord and I dont see anything

I can't play it unless it comes to console

[native rune]

The game would be awful on console

[coarse robin]

No

It would not

[lost inlet]

The game would have console version in a couple of years

[warm timber]

eh, we have yet to see. it will probably be harder on controller.

kinda like how siege is harder on controller.

[native rune]

Me when the aim assist locks my red dot on the civilian being used as a shield

[warm timber]

since its a tac shooter i highly doubt they'll add aim assist

[feral garnet]

i feel like im overlooking it
but which shotgun in the game has the side saddle with extra shells

[lost inlet]

None that just cosmetic for the b1301

[feral garnet]

hmm maybe im missing something but it doesnt show up on the model in the game and i cant tell of anyway to apply sometype of cosmetic to it

[lost inlet]

Only players that brought supporter edition before 1.0 can unlock thats and more

[feral garnet]

ah interesting

well that is unfortunate. thank you for the information

[lost inlet]

[warm timber]

i personally recommend the supernova. its a really reliable shotgun in my opinion

[feral garnet]

another question is i downloaded a stupid mod for the divison watch but now its showing all my scores as unoffical. i deleted the mod and signed out of mod,io, is there anyway to get rid of that

[feral garnet]

thank you for the suggestion i appreciate it

[lost inlet]

Game register all mods make the score unofficial. Run the game in safe mode through steam not shortcut, it will delete all the mods you have

[lost inlet]

Prefer 870 since you have bit faster fire rate

[shy tulip]

Running the game in safemode only temporarily disables the mod

[warm timber]

im not that big on modding

[feral garnet]

in these kinda of games i usually dont

[lost inlet]

I see the game say it will delete it so i never touch it

[feral garnet]

but the divison watch was neat

[lost inlet]

Also dont use mod.io use nexus its more consistent and easy to work with

[feral garnet]

yea i discovered that

lol. thank you for your help lonlely cf.

[feral garnet]

i disabeled and removed the mods before running it in safemod. will i be good after that ?

[lost inlet]

[shy tulip]

If you removed the mod files, you don't need to launch it on safemode

[lost inlet]

Lol lonlely

[feral garnet]

ok i will check thank you.

also is it just me or the lsp shirt with rolled sleeves has 2 custom options but they are the same unless im missing something lol

the no option is black and the 2 additonal are both ranger green

[grim hound]

any recommended mod maps?

[fiery hill]

SWAT 4 maps

Search SW4T in nexus mods

It’ll show a bunch

[cinder oyster]

hey, is there a mod that allows mission restart? ive tried looking for couldnt find

[fiery hill]

Nah, you can only restart in practice mode

[cinder oyster]

whats the difference between singleplayer and practice mode

the score doesnt save?

[fiery hill]

Practice involves only 4 officers and doesn’t track as much progress

Single player has you enlist officers

And it’s basically career mode

[cinder oyster]

so theres no real downside to practice mode then if im not a hardcore player

[fiery hill]

It’s just to get a lay of the maps and not worry about losing an officer to perma death

If you’re new it’s good to start there and get into the controls and what not

As well as building loadouts and equipment for you and your team

[shy tulip]

You can play the entire game with practice mode, it's just commander mode without the swat management system.

[cinder oyster]

sounds like the exact thing im looking for, thanks

[fiery hill]

Yup

[cinder oyster]

im assuming its 2 different progressions between practice and commander?

its like another save file?

or do u just continue exactly where u were on both modes

[shy tulip]

Commander mode has 3 different saves, you can play with ironman mode as well. Practice is its own save, cosmetics carry between all modes.

If you unlock something in commander, you unlock it in practice (I believe.) It does not go the other way.

[cinder oyster]

so everything i do in practice stays in practice mission wise, i see

[shy tulip]

Except cosmetics, which go between all modes

[cinder oyster]

thank youuuuu

[grim hound]

mask, whatever mask form the enemies use. will protect them from gas?

[vernal bane]

Not always; prime example is Sullivan’s Slope: sometimes they are affected, sometimes they are not

Best just to use flashes in that case

[grim hound]

I play on brisa cove I think, that one mission where I have to secure sniper. I throw smoke 2 times and they don't coughing. The use cloth mask

[vernal bane]

If I’m not mistaken, Brisa Cove doesn’t have gas masks period, so you might’ve thrown them outside the radius of effect and so the suspects weren’t affected

[grim hound]

not the gas mask. just cloth that covering their face

bandana covering their face.

[misty island]

Inly in mission "A Lethal Obsession", but there is 50% chance that enemy with gas mask will have a immunity yo it. If he has uzi with body armor, then he us immune. If he only has a pistol, then that is a regular enemy.

[misty island]

Enemies in "Ides of March" have a little more resistance to gas, so less stun time.

[grim hound]

oh wait. this probably the map

ohhh. ides of march not brisa cove

[misty island]

It is the same. One us name one the map, while the other is the name of a mission

[grim hound]

hahahhaha

[vernal bane]

Yea, those don’t count as gas masks

In code iirc

Gas should affect the suspects the same as any other suspects normally

[stone bay]

when is ron taken place

like what year

is it undefined?

oh, 2026

wth why is everyone being quiet

[loud rivet]

2026? WTF. Ready or Not takes place in the future?

I’m pretty sure it’s 2022, since we see that on a calendar in Valley of The Dolls.

[stone bay]

on the tablet thingy, if you have valley of the dolls open the daughter was born in 2008, they are 18, 2026

:/

so uhhh

I think 2026

hello??

[misty island]

It's me

[stone bay]

rah

[stone bay]

wsg

[misty island]

There is a nice website that has all your answers that you seek for.
www.google.com

[misty island]

Also watch videos from Shayne, please shut up on YouTube. He did a timeline.

[stone bay]

oh, ty

[stone bay]

wanted to ask community lol, not much stuff on ron on google

[misty island]

Not really much stuff here, too. There used to be arg, but no news and developing the world anywhere.

[stone bay]

way more then google tho

every question I have asked has been answered lol

[copper cypress]

Will any of you consider the damage to the suspect's arms and legs when choosing a weapon?

[vernal bane]

To me it’s something to keep in the back of my mind

After all 7.62 is just artery bleed if you hit the arm/leg

(I only use 7.62 for lethal atm)

[copper cypress]

Artery bleed = dead?

[vernal bane]

Yea, for both suspects and civilians

Most noticeable when you see a spigot of blood flowing from a person’s arm/leg

Shots to incap also changes depending on bullet caliber when hitting arm/leg instead of torso

So it’s just good to know what that number of shots are when you use a weapon

Majority of people are gonna be aiming for torso + head though

[copper cypress]

I want to equip my teammates with rifles, but important targets are easily killed by them. Equipping them with SMGs increases the risk of firefights. (If the gangster is wearing a body armor)

[copper cypress]

How about SWAT Ai?

[vernal bane]

Couldn’t tell you how they are coded; I don’t play with AI at all

I usually run True Solo/John Wick style

[copper cypress]

lol

[jolly verge]

swat ai always aim at torso

[copper cypress]

Is it possible that a bullet penetrated the arm and then hit the torso?

[jolly verge]

yeap, and can lead to oneshots if you it's hit the thin part of arm

[copper cypress]

!!!!!

[misty island]

Shotgun with slugs (has 10 000% arterial bleed chance)

[jolly verge]

but from test that happen only on sa58 gun

[vernal bane]

SA-58 has overpen

[misty island]

Yes

Give SWAT AI SA with JHP and enjoy incapacitations.

[copper cypress]

It sounds interesting 😂

[vernal bane]

7.62x51 moment

[stone bay]

I did not know that peeking a door doesn't detonate an explosive

wtf

[quick ocean]

Yep, it opens the door "in a safe manner", for checking I suppose

[stone bay]

so if you peek it, are you able to disarm it without a mirror gun?

and are you able to disarm a bomb without a mirror or peeking?

[quick ocean]

You don't need a mirror gun to disarm anything

[glad python]

C2 or breach shotgun shot will safely disarm traps

[lost inlet]

need to shoot at the upper arm and leg in order to trigger the bleed

[quick ocean]

The mirrorgun just provides an additional way to check if there's people or traps

[stone bay]

is there any mods that change the nvg to white and not green

[stone bay]

no I mean like, will the option come up if you haven't seen it with mirror gun

[quick ocean]

You can change that in the settings

[stone bay]

srsly?

[quick ocean]

Yes

[stone bay]

ty

[quick ocean]

And yes - using a mirrorgun is not a necessity to clear bombs/traps

[pine reef]

I love dropping the hand operatives with one shot

I mean "incapacitating"

(the 7.62 has torn their organs to atoms)

[hallow iris]

I mainly use the HK416

I’ve only ran the SA.58 OSW for a legitimate run on 1 mission, every other time it was for the giggles

[lost inlet]

416 huh, odd choice but ok

[hallow iris]

Why is that an odd choice

Out of all the weapons that fire 5.56 I feel that it hits the hardest

Only takes about 2-3 rounds to drop a target

[tacit gull]

I'm pretty sure all 556 rifles incap from 2 shots to the chest, its down to what feel you like for your rifle

[lost inlet]

cause 416 have one of the worst recoil in the game, the gun jump way too much compare to other 556 rifle

[hallow iris]

I’ve never had an issue with recoil

I guess I just have better recoil control

[grim hound]

Incapacitate means lethal or non lethal?

[lost inlet]

compare to other rifle like the arwc, mk18 and mk16 then yes i think 416 jump per shot is way more than those rifles but hey you do you

[lost inlet]

means they got knock out and wont get back up again, doesnt mean dead tho

[tacit gull]

That only matters on VIP targets, otherwise it basically means dead

[ebon lark]

Incapacitations still give you a better score than outright killing suspects. But if an objective says something like "Arrest Amos Voll", you can do it with incapacitations.
However, I failed the "Arrest 3 suspects" objective on Ides of March, even though I had more than 3 incapacitated suspects. So I guess a prime suspect being arrested and normal suspects being arrested are treated differently by the objective system

[lost inlet]

incap dont give more score than killing arrest does

[earnest phoenix]

both incapacitating and killing a suspect give you 5 points

[past warren]

Which is why you go for the headshot

[ebon lark]

So why do I get lower scores full-clearing levels with more dead suspects, than incapacitated suspects ?

[lost inlet]

you play mission where you have to arrest specific suspect?

[ebon lark]

Any levels. It's been consistent when I play with my friend. We get all objectives, but some runs where we kill suspects gives low scores compared to runs where I played solo and only 2-3 tapped suspects in the pelvis to incapacitate

[tacit gull]

The main objectives give the most score out of anything else, you're guaranteed a B rank if every suspect dies but you did all objectives

[ebon lark]

Yeah, and you can get up to A+ if you go for incapacitations + all objectives

And S only when you've arrested everyone

[lost inlet]

all are authorised kill?

[ebon lark]

No penalties at the end

[lost inlet]

interesting, will test later in 23 mb

[ebon lark]

Already testing it. Running the game with no mods, I'll ping you in media when I get the results

[lost inlet]

guess the harder level have more way more enemy for you to arrest but you choose incap/kill instead while compare to smaller level with fewer number of enemies, thats how it effect the score

[grim hound]

Is there any reason why I always crash on certain maps? for example I always crash on vineyard.

[jolly verge]

Send crash logs in https://discord.com/channels/310075021882294272/921527871619620914

[lilac seal]

i still don't seem to understand the active shooter game mode, earlier yesterday, i found a suspect chilling in a room with a civilian, do they not kill the civilians?

[tacit gull]

The shooters are on a timer before they're allowed to shoot civilians

[lilac seal]

do you know the timer? or is it random each time?

[earnest phoenix]

its 120 seconds each time

[lilac seal]

are the civilians that die to them labeled as "DOA" on the ground?

or is that something unrelated

[pearl shuttle]

Man I would love Astral's AI more if hiding wasn't a buggy POS feature. Might have to try the "No Hiding" optional file

[stoic whale]

Question, will guns be able to have more attachments? I mean since an ar 15 or something has I think 3 rails on the barrel of the gun shouldn’t you be able to attach a flash light or other attachment to it?

Also, will there be more attachments and guns added to the game?

[lilac seal]

also 1 more question, what's the difference between a raid and barricaded suspects?

[prime wing]

which version of the game are you on

[vernal bane]

I exclusively only use the SA-58

[lilac seal]

unmodded, latest version feb 28

[gloomy isle]

Also shooting enemies in the head with a pistol will (except the .357) will incapacitate them. Incapacitated enemies can still successfully be arrested for some main objectives (like arrest Amos Voll). I started doing it cause it’s funny.

[misty island]

Then where did you find a raid?

[lilac seal]

i thought missions like the car dealership and a lethal obsession are raids

[misty island]

All of them are barricaed suspects. Expect, maybe, Elephant. It is active shooter, but it stated otherwise.

[proven crystal]

bruh why do my bots just stand when i ask them to atack?

[misty island]

Broken SWAT AI. Might be just stuck, or the double door wedge bug. You will need to learn to use AI. BTW, one live player is better than 4 SWAT AI.

[proven crystal]

the only good thing in bots that they can search for civs and guns (Sometimes they cant do it too)

[gloomy isle]

Sometimes SWAT AI won’t breach/open a door because there’s a trap. I just wish they’d say it louder

[misty island]

After bringign oder to chaos, they willsearch the whole map for all weapons and for civilians that have hands in the air(!).

[misty island]

They actually say it. And there are only 3 maps with traps, so you can expect it.

[proven crystal]

they search but always forget about smth

[gloomy isle]

I know they say it, just wish it was louder. Took me some time to realize the first times they just stood there doing nothing

[proven crystal]

i had no doors at all in my situation

[misty island]

For me, they only missed a civilian, that did not have hands in the air. WHat did they miss for you?

[proper leaf]

Hi bro, witch ones ?

[misty island]

I will tell the mission names. Deadly ones: "A Lethal Obsession" and "Ides of March". Flashbangs: "Sins of the Father".

[proven crystal]

on meth they forgot about ~3 guns and almost always on Elephant mission they just stand and act like "searching for civs"

[proven crystal]

Mindjot map...

[gloomy isle]

I have some funny clips from online play of players getting annihilated by the traps. One where I was disarming and a teammate came from the other side

[proper leaf]

Oh okay thank you man. I did Sins of the father and yes it was flashbang traps. I understand that only at the end of the mission lol

[misty island]

Damn, never seen them miss a gun. Civs is another problem, as they may get stuck.

[misty island]

What's there?

[proper leaf]

can you send them plz ?

[proven crystal]

Sinous Trail mission. No traps or smth just bring order to chaos and save all civs

[misty island]

I have even funnier one from "Sins of the Father". Here:
#📩feedback-reports-channel message

[misty island]

Oh, and what's with that? We were talking about traps, so I am confused.

[gloomy isle]

I can post them on Youtube and link them. Can we link our youtube videos? I’ll put them in the clips channel

[proven crystal]

they ignore my command to enter the room (On the roof. No doors, no traps I mean really nothing)

[gloomy isle]

Oh… you can turn on subtitles? That would be very nice

[proper leaf]

thx you

[lilac seal]

i thought neon tomb and relapse were active shooter too

[misty island]

Luckily, no.

[opaque birch]

ngl 416 has a lot of recoil for a 556

[umbral oar]

Tru

[opaque birch]

i think the best 556 are the mk's

[umbral oar]

i still use 416, its controllable enough and uh its cool

[opaque birch]

its cool

[proven crystal]

Bro why is playing with toy guns is so hard? I cant take S.

[opaque birch]

it should actually have less recoil cuz of the short piston (or gas piston i dont remember what its called)

[vernal bane]

It’s usable, but compared to its 5.56 counterparts it’s the worst

[opaque birch]

so i can actually use it without people looking at me weird xdxd

[full shore]

Being cool >

[opaque birch]

true vrother that is why i run the 357

[proven crystal]

my bots are so stupid

how do shotguns work in this game? I mean i shot right next to enemy or into him but he ignores it

[jolly verge]

If you using buck and suspect wear any armor level it's wont really do anything

you can tear off limbs or head

[proven crystal]

i use unlethal shotgun it does something on big distance BUT YOU ALWAYS HAVE TO AIM RIGHT INTO HIS TORSE

[jolly verge]

It's always stun if you hit with it

[proven crystal]

enemies dont feel their legs and arms?

[opaque birch]

nonlethal shotgun shoots one solid projectile

[proven crystal]

"Shotgun" 💀

[jolly verge]

beanbag shotgun shooting 1 projectile, not buck

[opaque birch]

what vro

[proven crystal]

this is a rifle then...

[opaque birch]

is beanbag shotgun vro

is shoot beans vro

[proven crystal]

wdym "vro"

[opaque birch]

vro

[jolly verge]

you know that shotguns can shoot 1 bullet as well, right?

[umbral oar]

doing no armor is hard ugggg

[proven crystal]

yeah they can but I can't see any reasons to use it with that way. I mean rifle do it better

[opaque birch]

vro a slug hits harder than 556

[gloomy isle]

@proper leaf I posted a clip here #🎬ron-clips-and-media message

[timid wraith]

guys there is aan achievement saying complete coyote but there is no mission called that

[umbral oar]

They mean Rust Belt

[timid wraith]

why dont they say that

[umbral oar]

no idea

[timid wraith]

will ai mess up the achievement for me ?

i can only use 357 magnum

[umbral oar]

when I did it i let them have any gun but i gave them no orders

[timid wraith]

ok

[umbral oar]

just let them follow u around

and also dont open the tablet or use lockpick flashbang long tactical or anything like that

only revolver

[misty island]

The mission used to be called Coyote, then it was changed, but Void forgot to change the description. Like many other things

[timid wraith]

does that include the icon for bean bag shotgun?

[misty island]

You can use only the rrevolver, but SWAT AI can use any weapon. Only use "open/move and clear" and follow you order.

[misty island]

And many ,many , many other things

[timid wraith]

oh ok

[tropic hazel]

I have slugs selected in my loadout but my shotgun keeps shooting buckshot, does anybody know how to fix this?

[timid wraith]

cant blame them tbf

[misty island]

So just give SWAT AI SA-58 with JPH and that is it.

[timid wraith]

i keep my swat on bean bag cus i dont want them to shoot someone i have to arrest like amos voll

[timid wraith]

should i be using ap or hollow point?

[gloomy isle]

I found SWAT more effective with pepper guns

[acoustic ridge]

does the ai not know how to reload the vks, they are all now holding their secondaries (which i gave them no ammo for)

[misty island]

JHP, as the enemies on Rust Belt do not wear armour.

[timid wraith]

but what if i wanna shoot through a wall or something

[misty island]

It will still go through, unless you are shooting 9mm. Depends on a caliber.

[jolly verge]

You can't load slugs if you in someone lobby, it's bugged

[stable kernel]

Correct, only the host can use slugs

[tropic hazel]

Seems like the first 5 or so shots are buckshot then the rest are slugs

[timid wraith]

i found another visual bug guys

when i spawn in my guy checks his chamber revealing a round but i have no ammo for my primary anyways

[opaque birch]

use the beanbag

[timid wraith]

fr

[stable kernel]

If the ai were recently or currently under fire or in sight of a suspect they will never reload their primary. Sometimes you have to wait ~15 seconds in safety

[acoustic ridge]

dont want dumb ai to accidently headshot and ruin s rank

[opaque birch]

the pepperball wont do anything tho lol

also go first vro

[acoustic ridge]

they dont have masks on this mission

[timid wraith]

vro?

[umbral oar]

They removed the ai’s ability to dome with the beanbagger

[acoustic ridge]

really?

[opaque birch]

ai wont have anyone to kill if you incap everyone before they go in vro

[jolly verge]

pepper ball guns good only with pacifier trait

[umbral oar]

i did all my s ranks with them having beanbags

[acoustic ridge]

ok ig im gonna give them beanbags then if they dont headshot anymore

[stable kernel]

Ai no longer kills on headshots with the beanbag, at least according to the patch notes. The player still can kill though

[timid wraith]

they dont trust me i have been using for days

[opaque birch]

pepperball users how often do yall think the ai is actually gonna kill someone with the beanbag accidentally

[vernal bane]

It used to be a lot

I haven’t used AI ever since they patched a couple patches ago but I do know they did change it at least

[opaque birch]

like the beanbag outshines the pepperballs in every way ngl

[timid wraith]

yeah b4 it was bad now i always give ai beanbag they havent killed anyone since

[vernal bane]

It was one of the main reasons why everyone would tell you not to use beanbag w/ AI, because they would kill suspects

Now it’s much better

[shy tulip]

Shoot him in the nuts

[gloomy isle]

Pepperballs also make CS clouds that could AOE suspects

[raw bluff]

HA! It is false! Like, the Beanbag is still killing all with one headshot

[shy tulip]

The ai shouldn’t aim for heads anymore with it, but you still can, because it’s intentional.

Beanbag can cause brain damage irl but no way to simulate that in RoN, so they get catastrophic brain damage

[opaque birch]

the ai doesnt do it

[raw bluff]

Nah, if you are near to them, they are start one shot you.

[opaque birch]

what the fuck did you just say vro

vro i didnt understand that sentence vro

[misty island]

@pallid quest Sorry for the ping. I found that there is/was a ARG. Is it resolved, is it forgotten? What is the state of it? Right now, I am reading your doc:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1BL7nWO9WYQqG-RbBwMEEMzjNRooOJR4fZxeaRs3KdAk/edit?usp=sharing

[opaque birch]

is it #🪹the-sepulchre-arg

[shy tulip]

You have bigger issues if the ai are shooting you, like an internal affairs investigation

[misty island]

Yees, that is closed and no updatees.

[shy tulip]

The ARG has been paused for a while now

Probs a year by now

[opaque birch]

dayum

[misty island]

2 years, at leaest.

[shy tulip]

Don’t think that long, probably

I think it closed around end of 2023

[opaque birch]

1.09.2023

[misty island]

And what was the conclusion?

[shy tulip]

People are insane is the conclusion

[misty island]

Very... broad description...

[shy tulip]

Don’t encourage people to end up on watch lists

[umbral oar]

absolutely bonkers

[opaque birch]

delete the last few messages in there then lol

[misty island]

So really, that is all what it was about. Damn, I expected something... more.

[pallid quest]

The sepulchre ARG was put on hold since it was abandoned after the last game master left the team. There is Katminsky now technically, but he said that I will be informed personally if it were to continue

There is good potential for it to return with what is in the game rn, especially if they plan on DLC. But if history is any indicator, I wouldn't put my hopes up too high

[misty island]

Thank you for the reply!

[opaque birch]

vro what was the sepulchure arg? can i get a lore breakdwon vro

[misty island]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1BL7nWO9WYQqG-RbBwMEEMzjNRooOJR4fZxeaRs3KdAk/edit?usp=sharing

[opaque birch]

thank you vro

[pallid quest]

In a really short version, the ARG was following a few notable parties such as The Lost and the Mariposa Lily Organization, who communicated to us with cryptic messages. You may see how some of their messages can be seen in the 1.0 release now in certain text in the Evidence room

The Lost might be the Left Behind now, and the Mariposas have been lightly mentioned in a few loose evidence pieces

[misty island]

But wasn't the MLO just a placeholder for PVP mode?

[pallid quest]

They may have been, or they could alude to a more overarching enemy in the campaign now

I would look at the S rank evidence from the feminist cult level, and you may note the Mariposa being mentioned

[misty island]

Looks like it time to finally read all the evidence I have collected.

[pallid quest]

There are 3 evidence per level, the 3rd being unlocked by getting S rank on the mission

Someone has a video of all of them on the ARG channel if you want

[misty island]

I have done all S rank on my pracitce mode, so I should have them, but if can send a name of the channel or link, would be greate.

[pallid quest]

https://youtu.be/UDu-2lG8JHM

[misty island]

❤️

[vernal bane]

It does

If you use pepperball good trick is to prefire corners. It’ll affect the suspects

[grim hound]

Do we have erased map??

I remember on early access I play on this map where enemies are deadly. The map ambience is similar to carriers of the vine. We start from bottom. There are intersection, if we go left we enter like small building with stair. If we go straight we just go to main gate. Both ways we will meet on main gate.

[shy tulip]

That was old farm

Busted farm

[coarse osprey]

old port too

[vernal bane]

Some maps got major reworks

[grim hound]

what is the new farm called?

[shy tulip]

I think it’s still cherrysa farm. It’s the officer down map with the courtyard tower.

[grim hound]

carriers of the vine??

[vernal bane]

Yes

Previous farm was like a grapevines in Italy

Current farm is almost similar to a fort mixed with grapevines

Previous port had more buildings/less open areas

[lilac seal]

so the toc dialogue mentioning an active shooter is false?

[molten trail]

ofc, hes afk

[grim hound]

Is there other map that is reworked / erased?

I remember playing in this map where we have to go through tunnels. But not like rust belt.

Rust belt tunnel is like rough drilled tunnel, but this one is solid wall. The enemies use armor as well I think. Also there are long spiral stairs.

[misty island]

Yes, Diealoges in this game are bad, mostly.

[prime wing]

old farm had tunnels but it was reworked into cherresa farms (carriers of the vine), which still has some tunnels partially

[warm orchid]

There were only two maps that had tunnels iirc in older versions of RoN. Meth house and Cherrysa farm. Meth house has changed alot but the basic layout is mostly the same, but the tunnel layout has changed.

[grim hound]

do you guys remember a map where there are long spiral stairs? Or is the cherrysa farm as well?

The spiral stairs is like solid wall. so we can only go in 1 line.

[warm orchid]

Yeah that was old Cherrysa as well.

There were like candles and stuff along the walls right? And it was an underground spirl stair case?

[grim hound]

I think so yeah. I only remember like a glimpse. there are wine barrels to somewhere inside the tunnel iirc.

so the tunnels on cherrysa farm currently is smaller? I only remember I play huge tunnels, and that very narrow & very long spiral stair.

[prime wing]

its a wine warehouse

underground

[warm orchid]

Yea. The tunnels aren't really tunnels in the new version of Cherrysa. Its basically just cellar for wine storage.

[shy tulip]

Cause we got coyote instead

[granite peak]

do suspects/civs ever hide in those tiny lockers like in twisted nerve/EOTE attic is there any reason to check them

never seen it happen

[vernal bane]

It’s possible, it happens in Gas Station and Twisted Nerve

In Kawayu I’ve never seen it happen; usually they just run

[sudden marsh]

good fuck, everytime i boot up a map it dips frames heavy and it gets better overtime. but even then the performance is just weird still
its such a annoyance

that shader precomp better come asap

[stoic whale]

ikr

also, most of the time the flashlight is so godamn bright that it shines brighter than the sun

i hope they fix this too

[coarse robin]

I wish this was on xbox

[sudden marsh]

VOID got wet willy in their mouth and its bout to be april with no patch

[sudden marsh]

with how the Ai is, its gonna suck on consoles, especially aiming with joysticks is already pain enough.

[coarse robin]

No

They could optimize it

[sudden marsh]

well in the games current state, its not suitable for consoles anyway

why the shit do consoles precompile shaders automatically on basicially every game
mean while PC'S lack that feature and we have to wait eeons for people like void to add it

You’re never going to brute force bad optimization

[wanton bear]

[humble mauve]

Giving that it's about to be April probably safe to assume they are full working on 1.1 by now

[sudden marsh]

well i find it hard to trust void especially with any assumptions because of their work ethics and priorities

[shy tulip]

Work ethics like not forcing crunch on devs

Horrible

[heady spade]

terrible 😟

[shy tulip]

Apparently Hell Divers devs had hella crunch and some people are very mad

[sudden marsh]

well that game was bound to be screwed over anyways

[heady spade]

still a good game so apparently the crunch was worth it

[shy tulip]

Depends who you ask, their steam forums disagrees

Schrodingers crunch

[heady spade]

they also whine about that there’s no pride flag ingame

[shy tulip]

Updates come out too fast to be properly tested but not fast enough to fix bugs

[sudden marsh]

reminds me of VOID with 1.0

electric boogaloo

[shy tulip]

RoN doesn’t have a bug where the entire lobbies game will crash if you use specific weapon types

Which makes me sad cause it’s my favorite weapon type

[heady spade]

reminds me of void releasing the neon night club level on the anniversary of the pulse nightclub shooting

[shy tulip]

[sudden marsh]

well both are bug ridden games with their own feats

[heady spade]

RoN crashes when you try to change your loadout

Like around 4-6 crashes a day with RoN

[shy tulip]

I can safely say my loadout is safe and sound

Until I decide to get rid of everything and spam flashbacks

Bangs

[heady spade]

just randomly crashes is what i’m saying

i say make the devs work more

cut pay entirely. Make them live in the office. Under constant surveillance

[sudden marsh]

that should happen if these devs slack on year old issues

and they pay people to make excuses for them

like 1 supporter edition + 500 robux

[heady spade]

wasn’t supporter edition just a straight up scam?

[foggy zinc]

? no? paid more to get cosmetics and weapons that are now locked up so i'd imagine for them it was a worthwhile purchase unless they hate the cosmetics and/or the weapons

[heady spade]

werent they promised active insight and constant updates in development and didnt get any of that

[sudden marsh]

yes and no.
people basicially supported a game of failed promises, technical issues, high expectations dead delivery
all because "oohhh tactical" and youtubers shilling the game so its subjective

[foggy zinc]

what setup are you running officer

[heady spade]

it’s not every time. Just like a random 1/100 chance when you try to change it

[hexed granite]

u mean when u open the menu?

[heady spade]

yea

[hexed granite]

consitently, in multiplayer coop, when i open the menu too soon wheni turn the corner, it crashes (the office room across the briefing room)

doesn't seem to crash at other times

speaking of which, i wonder if the devs actually look at the tickets and forums for bugs and feedback

there's good stuff mixed in with garbage and junk, and there's gotta be so much to sift through,

and im wondering if there's a more direct and reliable way to get their attention with certain issues

[heady spade]

email them?

[shy tulip]

Why is it that gamers first move is to email a game studio for things but I can’t get my classmates to read their fucking school emails

[misty island]

I think, he only tells it in two missions - "Elephant", where it is true and "23 MB per second", where streamer was swatted, but 911 got information about active shooter. I do not think, that TOC say anything about a shooter in any other mission, but I may be mistaken.

[heady spade]

a buddy hasn’t read my text on whatsapp for 3 days now

[misty island]

You are talking about Cherrysa farm. It changed a lot and I like a newer version of it. Old one was... too big.

[shy tulip]

It was good in some ways, mainly the courtyard, but had tons of issues

[misty island]

There are two "basements" in Cherysa now. One is wine cellar, second one is church's basement.

[sudden marsh]

i miss the old one

[shy tulip]

They wanted a Sicario map so now we got coyote

[heady spade]

how do y’all feel about the AI generated art in ron?

[misty island]

Who?

[sudden marsh]

i dont mind it, but if its too often then it screams lazy devs

[lilac seal]

when i played through neon tomb, he mentioned an active shooter

[misty island]

It was too big and a lot of enemies, hard to control. Somewhat, like a post office. 😄

[humble mauve]

It appears to be mostly relegated to throw away textures. I personally wish it wasn't used at all but also like, if it wasn't pointed out I probably wouldn't notice and or care.

[acoustic ridge]

if you quick reload to drop a teammate a mag, does the mag have to be same ammo type/same gun?

[misty island]

Yes.

[humble mauve]

I think it is both ammo type/gun unless I'm mistaken

So all 5.56 rifles can trade since they would all fit, but a Glock mag can't be used in MP5's for example

[heady spade]

like the posters in 23mb/s are pretty obviously ai generated. Every single hand has like an extra finger or one too little

[sudden marsh]

4 fingered maids lol

[humble mauve]

That's what I am saying in throw away textures, if I am just regularly playing and glance over a random anime girl picture on a wall then get in a gunfight I won't really think twice about it

[shy tulip]

Should’ve strapped ropolio to the chair and force fed them 72 hours worth of anime

[heady spade]

i like to look around the level and admire the details. An extra finger on a painting throws me off. And knowing most of it is ai generated anyways makes it seem less personal and lazy

[heady spade]

just watched 4h of anime and feel like i’ve been in a coma

[umbral oar]

Karens of the vine
-some dude in yt comments idk

[sudden marsh]

karens with guns n roses

[last latch]

When are we getting the pdiddy mansion map

[silent tide]

ffs ides of march is so fucking hard

also enemies are fucking terminators

who the fuck made result unskippable

in story mode

[gloomy isle]

I’ve found Ides of March to be easier less lethal

[silent tide]

these fahhots are fucking everywhere

i need to try conc. camp tactic and take only gas

main problem is amount of enemies and light design

same shit with club

[hexed granite]

so real

[silent tide]

the worst map, cuz i cant see a shit in that clusterfuck of neon

[vernal bane]

If you can’t hear turn off the music

[sudden marsh]

what AI mod do yall run

[silent tide]

i cant see a shit

[vernal bane]

Too bad you can’t switch lights unfortunately

[silent tide]

cuz lighting is fucked up

at ides of march and club

[umbral oar]

dj booth does stop the flashing

[vernal bane]

I mean I guess it is a nightclub

[silent tide]

yep

in ides of march some rooms are fucking yellow

also enemies are everywhere

in story mode its impossible to beat it without luck, cuz bots are so fucking random

enemies and friendlies

they can just one tap

[vernal bane]

Lethal or non lethal?

[silent tide]

P90 all

it kills faster than anything els (also MP7)

[vernal bane]

I didn’t really have an issue with Brisa Lethal-wise

[silent tide]

like i shot whole mag of 9x19 and dude was fine

[vernal bane]

Nightclub was a pain to do S% on

[silent tide]

then shot me

[misty island]

Where was it used?

[silent tide]

nightclub is the most fucked up mission ever

[vernal bane]

Recommend running front only steel

If you’re looking to complete the objectives bring flash or taser

I ran 7.62 AP

[silent tide]

actually i found that MP7 is better than SA

like it kills/injures faster

and has better armor penetration

i tried both on Sins of The Father

and with MP7 its much easier

9x19 is absolutely useless here

[misty island]

Nah, it is not hard. Difficulty is meduim, you just need to control the map with wedges.

[misty island]

They have small resistance to gas.

[vernal bane]

Probably just personal preference

[silent tide]

actually gas is kinda weird

[vernal bane]

7.62 takes less shots to incap

[silent tide]

but firerate is slower

also recoil

[vernal bane]

Are you full auto?

[silent tide]

so ttk is higher in total

yep

[vernal bane]

Yea i never run it in full auto

[misty island]

Ides of March is a good map, do not shit on it, because of skill.

[silent tide]

I just tap and hold when shoot through wall

[vernal bane]

AP penetration for me is important - takes less shots to shoot through the wall and incap/kill

[misty island]

Lightning? Well, send screenshots, please, because I am interested now.

[silent tide]

penetration + ammo for me

[misty island]

Give SWAT AI SA-58, smh

[vernal bane]

Recoil for 7.62 isn’t really bad either - if you can’t control it imo that’s just skill issue

But that’s really player dependent

[silent tide]

yeah, but MP7 firerate i like more

[misty island]

LOL
It is hard, but not the fuck up. There are far worse. Club is hard, yes, but doable.

[silent tide]

more chances to hit through wall

[misty island]

Oh yeah, after 1 mag. SA drops in 1-2 shots.

[vernal bane]

7.62 has better pen - less bullets and higher chance of going through material

[misty island]

You need to get used to it, as it is a bit weird.

[silent tide]

but again. less firerate-less chance to hit, so you must concentrate fire

[vernal bane]

Just aim better?

[silent tide]

Lethal Obsession - all tangos have gas masks, gas still works

[silent tide]

in walls?

[vernal bane]

You can deduce where suspects are

You don’t need to blindly waste ammo by shooting randomly

[silent tide]

i know, i have opti and i use it

[vernal bane]

I don’t use opti lol

[silent tide]

but enemies can move

[vernal bane]

I exclusively use breach

[vernal bane]

Predict where they will go

Helps a lot

[silent tide]

it can be dangerous for CVs

[wanton aurora]

On Ides just now I had an armed enemy advancing towards me so I dropped him and got a use of force penalty 😄 Oh well

[silent tide]

RL; its fine to shoot CV if they are suspicios

[vernal bane]

Maybe, but once you play a lot you know where civys can and can’t spawn

[silent tide]

RoN: Nah

[vernal bane]

Then you use your best judgement

[sudden marsh]

holee fuck cheriyessa farm needs that shader precomp badly
i lose frames hard everytime i boot up the map

[silent tide]

indeed

[vernal bane]

In Brisa, they almost never spawn in hallways, or far sniper room area

They concentrate bedrooms/big lobby area

[misty island]

There are 3 enemies and one of them Gerad(or whatever his name) and he has 2 types of suspects. Both are with gas masks. One with uzi and body armour and he is resistant to gas and second one witht mask and pistol, which is not imune too gas. So, if RNG is good, you may get 2 pistol dudes, if RNG is bad, then 2 uzi dudes.

[silent tide]

RNG?

[misty island]

Wait till you get to Relapse.

[vernal bane]

Yea

[silent tide]

what is that

[vernal bane]

Luck

[silent tide]

ah

[vernal bane]

Sometimes suspects in Slope can be affected by gas

Sometimes they don’t

[misty island]

Random Number Generator. Basically, thing that defines what enemy type will spawn.

[silent tide]

pinbang and they are done

[oak copper]

when pvp?

[misty island]

Adn you can see, if he is affected or not.

[misty island]

Killhouse, smh

[vernal bane]

Yea

[oak copper]

nah, ill be back in annother month

[sudden marsh]

when they optimize the game

[misty island]

Before throwing the gas 😄

[vernal bane]

Slope is one of the levels that is inconsistent

Gas masks are either cosmetic or actual gas masks

[misty island]

50% per a guy. And there are only two.

[vernal bane]

And Datacenter suspect helmets aren’t implemented yet

[misty island]

1.0

[vernal bane]

[silent tide]

actually imo Sins of the father is the best mission

its hard, its interesting

not annoying

[misty island]

Use fucking wedges... It is that easy.

And at least use AP with P90 or MP7 to penetrate armour in Ides of March.

[floral pulsar]

@spice garden

[misty island]

If you have problem with any map, there is a walkthrough for every map in Steam guides.

[vernal bane]

I’d consider Hotel to be pretty difficult just on stats alone

[silent tide]

which hotel

[vernal bane]

Clemente Hotel - there’s only 1

[silent tide]

mission name?

[vernal bane]

Sins

[silent tide]

are

its hard but fun

btw, are suppressors useless?

[vernal bane]

No

It depends on use case

If you’re worried about suspect stress level, yea, it’ll work

All gun attachments have their own stats

[misty island]

There are two hotels mission.

[vernal bane]

There’s only one called Hotel

If you’re talking about Brisa Cove, that’s less of a hotel and more of a condo complex

[misty island]

Oh well, yes. I still consider two as hotels. First map I played, was Ides and I considered it a hotel. Then Sins came, which became a second hotel.

[misty island]

The first part is hard, then you just need to wedge everything and it is pretty easy.

[vernal bane]

I don’t run wedges

Too slow

[misty island]

That's the main idea of RoN - slow and tactical. Unless, you run S rank speedruns.

[vernal bane]

I’ve done them all

You never run wedges, and you only bring breach as the most viable tactical tool

Relapse is the only one that differs w/ shield

[misty island]

Wait, I thought that you were the one, that was doing S rank speedrun in coop, that was the joke. I guess, I got confused.

[vernal bane]

I’m the guy who holds all the records

[misty island]

Oh. Then I was correct

[vernal bane]

Only need to do the last 3

[misty island]

Fuck Relapse

[vernal bane]

Relapse is pretty hard

I deduced running front only steel and still die

[misty island]

Didn't you do Vine recently?

[vernal bane]

It’s great

[vernal bane]

Nah I wanted to do Relapse first

Most recent post was my Duo S% Farm

[misty island]

Maybe ceramic?

[vernal bane]

No, I ran ceramic first and you die a lot quicker

[misty island]

Are you doing solo S rank?

[vernal bane]

Ye

[misty island]

Oh fuck

Insane man

[vernal bane]

All I have left is True Solo S% farm, hospital, port, and Duo S% port

Port is also fucked really bad

Even with 2 people one consistently dies in warehouse

[misty island]

Well, still not Relapse. Mostly rng.

[vernal bane]

Relapse just hits hard, and if they’re grouped up it’s not great either

[misty island]

You may get lucky, if they decide to push

[grave timber]

What can I do if my whole crew's high crisis and therpay's full

[misty island]

Do Thank you on S rank.

Oh well, imma sleep, have fun

Or misery

[vernal bane]

Taser and shield would be goated

Maybe one day in the future

[grave timber]

Huh.

I haven't played multiplayer in few months?

[vernal bane]

You don’t need to play multiplayer to get S%

S% increases SWAT AI morale

Gas Station is easy/quick

[gloomy isle]

My teammates are my wedges

[grave timber]

OH OHHHH, NOT I GET IT

[grave timber]

Nvm I get what u mean

[gloomy isle]

I do run wedges, but I rarely use them, They’re good for map control, though. If you go into the replays, you’ll see suspects are highly mobile.

It’s actually funny because you’re playing slow and tactical and suspects are sprinting around like it’s COD.

[vernal bane]

The only time I’ve remotely thought of using wedges is for 1 door in farm

[frail quartz]

i jam every goddamn door i see

I remember thinking I might be overreacting, but then I remember trying the old hotel once without wedging doors like I usually did and I started getting flanked from angles I hadn't before

By the time I neutralized every suspect I didn't even have to leave the first floor

[patent lagoon]

We love RON making my GPU fly up to 69 degrees celc in temp 👍

[shy tulip]

Isn't 110F enough to kill a human

[frail quartz]

Yeah, but I'm built different

[shy tulip]

Toasty

[lilac seal]

one of my friends just got into a game with this watchmenwakeupon guy, apparently he never starts the game and just vc spams, how is he not banned?

[raven portal]

Is that the dude that blasts religious stuff into his mic?

[acoustic ridge]

the preacher

[lilac seal]

yeah and never starts the game apparently

[lilac seal]

yeah him, that's what everyone calls him

[acoustic ridge]

its kinda annoying but it doesnt really matter, just leave and find a new public server

[grim hound]

where to send crash report?

I always crash on cherrysa farm. Tried with friend, pub, solo with AI, host with friend and no AI. only crash on that map. And sometimes the crash to the point I can't really quit the game. It's just freeze.

[jolly verge]

If it's crash and you see crashreporter window then send CrashContext.runtime-xml in https://discord.com/channels/310075021882294272/921527871619620914

[grim hound]

uh, where is that file location again?

[jolly verge]

at %LocalAppData%\ReadyOrNot\Saved\Crashes

[grim hound]

thx

[tiny storm]

i found something goofy in the .bank files of the police station. There was one file that was labled "drawing of an american" (but backwards) and it just played the song from the RON_MLO_evidence1 video (but backwards) and also there was another file called m1_credits that had a bunch of morse code that I decoded that said "YOUTHOUGHTWEWOULDN'TTHINKOFTHISTOONEGLECTEDLIKETHECHILDTHROWNINTOTHEDOGHOUS#OUTHOUGHTWEWOULDN'TTHINKOFTHISTOONEGLECTEDLIKETHECHILDTHROWNINTOTHEDOGHOUS#" so on so forth. anybody find this before?

or know what it means?

[magic hearth]

https://tenor.com/view/good1-gif-20723520

[tiny storm]

https://tenor.com/view/walter-white-walter-crying-walter-dying-gif-20964719

you get the gif even though it isnt loading

you can guess

I WILL FIGURE THIS OUT

[misty island]

Looks like it's time to reopen #🪹the-sepulchre-arg

[mossy ridge]

What is the purpose of pepper spray?

[quick ocean]

It's used to non-forcefully stun a person, normally causing them to surrender

[hasty ember]

spicy boi is a good tool irl but in a swat situation ehhhh

[ebon lark]

When some civvie is trying to act like a smartass, you introduce their eyes to it and they wisen up. But a taser is something you can use for both suspects and civvies, so it's really not worth to use the pepper spray over that

[hasty ember]

i am trying so hard to get an A+ on Valley of the Dolls for that Hawaian shirt

[ebon lark]

What are you struggling with ?

[misty island]

It has better range and more consistent, than melee.

[tacit gull]

Only usable on non compliant civilians, which never happens anyway

It's great for friendly fire though

[misty island]

If you want, I may help, unless you care for the achievement "Medal Of Valor"

[copper cypress]

Does the boss of the spider level wear L2 body armor?

[hasty ember]

Nah I am good

I just want the Hawaiian shirt

[lost inlet]

even if he did he still go down just as quick as his goons

[misty island]

Test

[misty island]

Then it is S and not A+.

[hasty ember]

I give up

LOL

Tbh I dont have skill nor time to get S rank Valley of the Dolls

[copper cypress]

L2 body armor can at least stop some JHP from handguns lol

[misty island]

It is not that hard, maybe some luck is needed.

[misty island]

I do not think, but most enemies there use L2 armour.

[copper cypress]

All right @ @

[lost inlet]

can stop 9mm 45 10mm 357 jhp, not 5.7 and 4.6

[copper cypress]

Yup

[ionic gale]

hey guys

[tiny storm]

Lmao 💀💀💀

[oak cobalt]

game idea, add DEA type stuff. That would be cool

[tiny storm]

Add nuclear missile pls

[hasty oak]

add ac 130

[rain flicker]

i agree

[rain flicker]

i agree with your opinion

[hexed granite]

the devs are always watching

[tiny storm]

I shall continue the search for more Easter eggs later

[opaque birch]

hello dev vro can you add a 50 cal machine gun to the game vro

[tiny storm]

Anti-matter tank rifle when????

[opaque birch]

vro when are yall adding a black hole shooter

[rain flicker]

true

[acoustic ridge]

do the veterans with prosthetic legs on ides of march still have the leg hitbox?

[jolly verge]

Yes

[tiny storm]

That’s hilarious

[acoustic ridge]

do blood decals spawn when you shoot them in the legs still lol

[tiny storm]

For what reason do you need to know this information

[jolly verge]

yes

[acoustic ridge]

amazing

[jolly verge]

Actually, im wrong

you can't hit his leg, just test it

[umbral oar]

shoot his leg with a shotgun

[astral warren]

It'd be funny if you could shoot his prosthetic leg off and then he'd hop around on one foot while shooting.

[jolly verge]

Ok, there are two types of veterans with prosthetic leg, one have hitbox and another one don't

[crude prism]

of fucking course lmao

[umbral oar]

it would be cool if you could hurt suspects enough that they would drop to the floor but still return fire

[pliant cradle]

is this game still shit

wait mb

[carmine cairn]

it would also be cool to show the level of training/dedication between the different enemy types, crackheads and security guards would just give up on the floor but the terrorists and such would fight to the end

[tiny storm]

Would be cool if we could interrogate suspects that we arrest. Like actually using the interrogation room to pry for more information

[opaque birch]

no vro its peak you should buy it

[pliant cradle]

i already have an S on every single map

[mighty prawn]

Can you get Achievements with mods?

I completed the first mission on "S" and it didn't showed up in the achievements

#🎨ron-screenshots-and-art message

[pliant cradle]

nope

it will deduct your score if you have mods installed

[umbral oar]

i had mods with all my s runs, its probably something else

[jolly verge]

yes, but not in multiplayer

[mighty prawn]

thanks

But why not on multiplayer?

[opaque birch]

vro s tier the maps again vro

trust me vro is worth it vro

[opaque birch]

untrue it wont count ur score cuz game modded vro

[jolly verge]

it's bugged and wont count

[misty island]

No achievements work in MP.

[mighty prawn]

bruh

[normal charm]

Speculation time
What do you think will be in the next DLC/ want

[shy tulip]

Homes to invade

hopefully larger sized homes

[leaden holly]

I got a few questions for this game after playing 17 hours

1. What kind of guns should I equip the BOTs with? Currently I have them all carrying MCX, what's the benefit of a shotgun for the BOTs?
2. Should I get bots to equip laser pointer or flashlight?
3. Is there no difficulty and thus practice mode and commander mode is under one difficulty?

[shy tulip]

1. That's entirely up to you and how you want to play. A shotgun is a shotgun, it has the same uses as if you would use it
2. They don't need em, but it helps with the tacticool.
3. Difficulty is based on what map you play, not global modifiers

Nothing like playing Twisted Nerve and having your squad rock up with flashlights blinding crackheads

[sudden marsh]

are all the shotguns basicially the same?

[shy tulip]

I take offense to the question

[leaden holly]

Will enemy NPCs see laser dots and flashlight casting?

[shy tulip]

They can see flashlights but not lasers

[normal charm]

me too

[opaque birch]

no supernova is cracked

[acoustic ridge]

one of them is nonlethal and one is semi auto

[pliant cradle]

that's exactly what i said?

cant tell if this guy is illiterate or what

[opaque birch]

vro im illiterate asf i dropped out in kindergarten

fuck you vro youre going in my kill list

thats not what deducted means headass

[silent tide]

Fuck, i hate when enemies one tap you

in full fucking armor with fucking face shield

[minor patio]

When are we getting clothing presents

[silent tide]

3 maps i hate: postal, club and march

[minor patio]

Also death animation shouldn’t be instant maybe like holding a part of ur body or falling to knee then dying

[tiny storm]

i can get behind hating club and postal, but march is where i draw the line pal

[silent tide]

march is kinda 50/50

but could be better

postal is fucking hell and club

random oneshots are annoying

like i have full HP, full heavy armor, face mask, shield and got one tapped from nowhere

also map design sucks

at factory at least

too many meaningless obstacles

[rain flicker]

i did the mission first try and i was alright with it

[rain flicker]

ready or not is still too addicting and fun

[stone bay]

/work

.. wrong server MB

[silent tide]

yeah, but when get 3 times in a row one taps from nowhere it annoys

in story mode

you cant just restart you have to start mission via HQ

[tiny storm]

i just press esc and restart mission when I die

also, does that Elaine raskin cult person know Gerard? I was wondering if thats acutally proven?

[shy tulip]

Gerards ex-wife

[lilac seal]

what does the "cover" command do?

does it put the swat ai in a "alerted state" too?

and just watch behind you?

[rain flicker]

to watch the spot where your crosshair is aiming

[stoic vortex]

If i incap a suspect during a non lethal run, do i still get an S?

King just pull out a five seven and shot someone

[shy tulip]

Nope

[daring flame]

your cheeks are mine lil bro 😭 🙏

[stoic vortex]

S rank valley of dolls is pain

[fiery hill]

Honestly valley of the dolls is such a disturbing map especially with the background of it.

I did like my 5th play through of the map and realized that the kids from Brixley map are in the barrels in the basement room. 😦

[stoic vortex]

SO FUCKING CLOSE

was left with one suspect

he killed me in the basement

[faint lance]

skill issue

😳

[stoic vortex]

You should [Z] KILL ME yourself NOW

[ionic gale]

hey guys

ngl

how would i be able to make my own weapon mods?

Custom models and crap

im just curious how its done and not looking into doing it myself yet

[shy tulip]

#🔧modding-chat

[prime wing]

just gonna tell you that it is a difficult if you dont have any prior experience with modeling, texture work and of course Blender/ue4 and the many other you may need.

A pain in the ass

[stable kernel]

UAssetGUI is a reason enough by itself to not do it

[ionic gale]

Blender/UE4 also requires subscribions im sure so modding isnt cheap?

[stable kernel]

Neither one does

Unless you intend to use it for buisness purposes

[subtle forge]

is there a way to change my voice in singleplayer like you can in multiplayer

[stable kernel]

No

[solemn cairn]

when was the last time ron got a new map

[umbral oar]

1.0

[leaden holly]

Is there a way to stop BOTs from walking in front of me to auto restrain a civilian, often times, they walk in front of me and get killed

[solemn cairn]

before that?

[umbral oar]

Adam

[shy tulip]

You can tell them to hold or stack up somewhere, that's about it

[copper cypress]

Does the death of a suspect cause the same status loss to SWAT Ai as does the suspect becoming incapacitated?

[jolly verge]

yes

[lilac seal]

is there going to be dlc for this game in the future? i really enjoy this game. 😅

[shy tulip]

Yes, two this year. View the roadmap in #announcements

[leaden holly]

What's rules of engagement? Why is it that if some guy holding AK is not enough to shoot them, I have to wait for them to point gun at me before I shoot them

[misty island]

They need to know, that you are a cop. So basically you can shoot in two situations. First is, obviously, if they are shooting you. Second is after yelling for compliance.

Second is a bit tricky, but as I have said "basically".

[copper cypress]

In Carriers of the Vine, seizing the high ground on a tall building seems to keep the entire squad safe🤔

Do you guys think that occupying the commanding heights can change the team from all injured to all healthy?

[shy tulip]

In my final runs, the hardest part was getting to the tower top without getting hurt. You can take the far left most path, but not a guarantee.

[leaden holly]

So if I yell for compliance and this guy is holding an AK and backing slowly while checking their rear occasionally, do I get to shoot them or do I have to wait for them to point AK at me

[shy tulip]

You have to wait till they are a threat, as in they try to kill you. They are purposely disengaging from you at that point, and you have plenty of chances to deploy your kit to get them to give up

[leaden holly]

I feel rules of engagement holds me back, at times I get killed because I hesitated and the enemy NPCs are too accurate

[humble mauve]

You have to find a middle ground, if you hesitate you can die or cause others to die, if you shoot too quickly or without provocation you are punished (or irl get fired or go to jail)

[misty island]

That is why you first clear the inside part first and then push the tower.

[misty island]

I really like the map in "Carrierst of the Vine". I only found 3 problems there. Firstly, basement lacks a door on the stairs section, that would give more map control.
econdly, the tower push. You can not see the enemy from the stairs, neither you can throw grenade from stairs, but enemy will see you and will shoot you.
Thirdly, the church push. Too much vegetation, that suspects will see you through and will shoot you through. You can not even throw a grenade above the trees, because of the invisible wall there.

[misty island]

That's the trickiest part. Suspects never give up easily, so if he is backing up you need to wait. Only one of the two things will happen.
First one is he will raise his gun and will start shooting you. After some time you will learn the animation of raising the gun, so you will act faster.
Second one is he will fake surrender to take out a pistol.

[misty island]

Whenever I try to throw grenade at them, they start immediately blasting. 😄

[misty island]

AI is OK atm, maybe a bit underpowered, I would say.

[misty island]

But not in Murica.

[sharp fox]

why do all of my suspects shoot me in the legs 😔

[misty island]

They used to shoot you in the head.

[sharp fox]

they do?

[misty island]

It depends on a mission and enemy type, as they all have different statistics, but you will not notice it right away.

[sharp fox]

ohh

[shy tulip]

You don't notice the bullets comically drawning an outline of you on the wall behind you

[sharp fox]

this aint tom and jerry 😭

wonder if the RoN universe has its version of family guy

[dense sleet]

6h Video essay idea

[copper cypress]

Does triggering the kill me command only occur if there is intentional killing of civilians or suspects who have not attacked?

[sharp fox]

i think if its intentional

if its accidental i dont think it works

i killed a civ who was cuffed and it appeared for me so

[misty island]

The one on the knees.

[copper cypress]

If I ask a suspect to surrender and he doesn't obey. I killed him. Doesn't this count as intentional?

[sharp fox]

well its a resisting suspect and not a suspect who gave up so

honestly no clue how it works

[copper cypress]

All right @@

[shy tulip]

That doesn't necessarily mean kill, if they start hesitating and retreating, they're not a threat yet.

Which will happen most of the time when you encounter your first suspects, assuming you aren't kicking in the first door or using C2

[misty island]

That counts as unauthorised use of force, but will not activate the promt. Only civilian or suspect, who surrendered, but I have found, that with suspects it does not always work. For example, SWAT AI does not mind, if I kill a terrorist in the club.

[copper cypress]

What!? Deliberately killing certain people who have surrendered will not trigger the Kill Me command?

[shy tulip]

I can safely say from user complaints, killing surrendered suspects will trigger the swat to kill you.

The game does however check for stuff like if you are in combat, if they were mid animation, etc

[copper cypress]

If I kill a terrorist who is already in handcuffs, Swat Ai won't kill me. If I kill a handcuffed teenage robber who robbed a gas station, will Swat Ai kill me?