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[lost inlet]

so voll desperate wanting to see his wife, make him go crazy over janie since she remind him so much of his late wife

as the reason he tied with brixley then i got nothing

was always thought brixley work for voll

[grim hound]

how to check rounds caliber in game?

[ebon lark]

They're put in the description, but some weapons don't include it. Other than the in-game descriptions, you can't.

Except 4 rifles, everything else in that category shoots 5.56x45

ARN-18 and LVAR are .300 Blackout

SLR47 is 7.62x39 and the SA-58 was like, 7.62x51 I think

[smoky cedar]

What missions do yall recommend to S rank first

I have relapse, 23 mb/ps, thank you come again

[astral lotus]

ammo type selector should tell you i think

.300 has different ammo types

and also is the regular mcx also .300? bc i can only get .300 ammo for it not 556

[ebon lark]

Oh, MCX is .300 Blackout, too, you're right. I thought it was 5.56, too

[pearl shuttle]

I feel like it's not supposed to be tbh lol

[ebon lark]

MCX is apparently chambered in either 5.56x45 or .300 Blackout. The more you know...

On a side note to the MCX, the MCX Spear is fucking sexy, I'm a sucker for it all the way. Even if it doesn't get adopted as the... what was it ? New Generation Squad Weapon thingy ? New service rifle.

[regal swallow]

ya it luks awesum

[smoky cedar]

#1221074753880850462 message

[astral lotus]

it looks very sexy indeed but its a dumb choice for a service rifle

mainly for logistics reasons

[ebon lark]

Why logistics ? I get it's heavy, but that's a soldier issue, not so much a logistics issue

If you're talking about the one with the hybrid battle rifle cartridge, I get it. But they're looking at the Spear LT, too. The 5.56x45 one.

[astral lotus]

usa has forced the entire nato to adopt 5.56, now they want to change to 6.8

if they made it 7.62 that would also be fine

but weirdly in the middle

And I think Spear LT will be a useless change and a waste of resources

although sof would definitely use it

[tacit gull]

Logistics isn't about weight, but availability

[ebon lark]

Well, the whole thing with the MCX is that it's even more modular. I think a barrel change is all you needed to switch the ammo its chambered in

[astral lotus]

m o d u l a r

🇺🇸 🇺🇸 🦅 🦅 🎆

[tacit gull]

You can find 5.56 NATO mags basically anywhere, but 6.8 needs to spread

[astral lotus]

also i heard that spear lt has feeding issues with pmags

if u hit it too hard the mag will go too high up the rifle

[ebon lark]

So they could ditch the 6.8 and opt for the 7.62 and they've got a harder hitting bullet that they wanted for "russian body armor" that russians haven't invented yet and still keep with NATO standards

[tacit gull]

that's a cool feature

[astral lotus]

too hard as in, a little harder than normal (combat condition)

which will jam the entire gun

and need reassembly to fix iirc

[tacit gull]

💀

[astral lotus]

just hand out the garands

the boys are back in town

[tacit gull]

AR-10 for all current service members

[ebon lark]

Imagine if they ditched this program and just gave more infantrymen SCAR-H to use

I remember from Forgotten Weapons that they gave the 6.8 cartridges a steel end to accomodate like, what was it ? 30,000 PSI ?

It was some ridiculous pressure rating, that's all I remember

[tacit gull]

not quite enough to handle .50 😔

[ebon lark]

Fuck it

Get Brandon Herrera out of his campaign for congress, give him and the boys a billion dollars for development costs and issue every infantryman an AK-50

But label it something weird, like NR-50 (New Rifle .50) and give it M-LOK points on the receiver and extra picatinny rails where it fits and call it a day

[tacit gull]

picatinny rail right below the handle for maximum ergonomics

[ebon lark]

One laying completely vertical on the end of the buttstock so you can choose different types of buttstock ends that you attack to the rail

[ebon lark]

I'm looking it up again, SIG's name for that cartridge is .277 Fury and its maximum pressure is 80,000 PSI what the fuck 💀

[ebon lark]

It's like SIG have seen that the US armed forces have a huge budget and are like "Here, brand new rifle, it has everything, it does everything, it's super amazing, very nice and expensive" and are trying to push everything they can pack into their proposal projects to milk that freedom contract money

[astral lotus]

imo the only thing to come out of this program will be a cool new jsoc contract

[copper cypress]

Is a suspect more likely to be angered by seeing his partner being arrested? Or be killed?

Sometimes I hear suspects being provoked into shooting around, but I'm not sure why.

[ebon lark]

That should affect their morale negatively, meaning they'll be more likely to surrender. But raises stress, so they get more unpredictable. Supposedly.
And that random shooting I think is just the AI bugging out, going into cover, reloading and then shooting in your direction to suppress you. Even if there's 5 walls in-between you and the suspect.

[muted star]

So yeah Astral's AI is goated

[tacit gull]

Would be even cooler if he gets even more experimental with it

UGH i had a squad killed by an S VEST because one of his friends shot his body on club

[smoky cedar]

aw man.. FUCK

i forgot to remove grenades from my loadout

i was about to flash this room right

and then i throw the grenade, then it richochets to the room me and my AI are in

and i look down at the grenade model and realize its not a flashbang its a fucking fragmentation grenade

and i say to myself

[tacit gull]

RIP

[smoky cedar]

im fucked

[muted star]

Any ideas?

[smoky cedar]

and then i had like -1000 points for friendly fire and killing the 2 civilians in that room

[ebon lark]

TOC be like: "Put em on safe and let them hang"

[copper cypress]

Capturing a suspect alive makes it easier for his companions to surrender, but killing a suspect makes it easier to anger his companions?

[tacit gull]

Like in-between civilians or cops or such

[tacit gull]

There are a bunch of different factors at play like arresting faction leaders and such but without mods its not really noticable

[copper cypress]

Oh

All right 🥲

[ebon lark]

I think it depends on factions, too. Or it makes sense to.

If you kill people from Bolton, it makes sense for their friends to be like "Fuck this, I'm not getting paid to die", but killing vets from The Left Behind or the terrorists from The Hand should probably make them go berserk, like "You killed my brother, you fucker, RAAAAAAARGRHGRHRHRHRJ"

[smoky cedar]

Oh and i forgot to mention my entire team either died or was incapacitated

Won’t womp

[copper cypress]

Lmao

[muted star]

Yoo just had a cool interaction on meth. Came into a room with a suspect holding a hostage, domed the suspect but the hostage fuckin punched me. Tbh real meth head behavior

[tacit gull]

LMAO WHAT

[ebon lark]

They were probably in an abusive relationship and he was pissed you killed his partner before he got the chance to

[copper cypress]

Nothing lol

[smoky cedar]

Yeah

The hand operatives are kind of a 50/50 after the leader is arrested
Either it’s
FUCK YOU FOR TAKING MY LEADER! IF ANYONE IS DYING TONIGHT ITS YOU, ME, MYSELF, AND I!
Or
Oh shit, our leader is captured. Womp womp i guess I’ll surrender

Depends what faction honestly but that’s what usually happens for me

[tacit gull]

Would be also cool if suspects could take eachother hostage, imagine you save a hostage and he picks up his fucking gun and starts unloading on you

[smoky cedar]

That happens to me a lot, and they actually can pick up guns

Sometimes they’ll just knee over to the gun when you haven’t cuffed them

[muted star]

I think that just happened lol, not really sure. Gonna see on the replay later

[smoky cedar]

And then pick them up and start blasting

[tacit gull]

Do share, that sounds sick

[ebon lark]

That sounds cool as hell. Wish I could attest to it, because Qadamah is the most generic, boring-ass fucking terrorist I've ever seen, so I never got to even arrest him. Guy just takes the pelvic shots and prays he stays incapacitated. Hiding in plain sight.

[muted star]

But sadly my immersion is ruined due to the fuckin closet bug

[copper cypress]

Do kills and arrests happen with similar results?

[tacit gull]

Always one step forwards two steps back with this game

[smoky cedar]

That plays a big role kinda in their morale
The more people you kill the less that’ll surrender
The less people you kill the more likely they’ll surrender
Again depends what faction but this is usually seen in regular criminal AI (Store map, ends of the earth

It’s hardly noticeable since usually they get angrier either way

Stop fucking arresting my friends!
Dipshit, quit killing my teammates!

[copper cypress]

Sounds like arrest would be better 🤔

[smoky cedar]

They usually get mad either way but arrest is better in general

[ebon lark]

Waiiit, that makes sense. If you kill people outright, suspects might opt to take their chances with you, since you'll just shoot them anyway, right ?
But if you arrest people still conscious, they might think "Oh, they seem chill, maybe surrendering ain't that bad. This sucks, anyway."

[smoky cedar]

Depends what type of NPC you encounter in what faction

[ebon lark]

I haven't encountered anything like that, though. Using jug's Gameplay Review AI currently

Maybe other mods affect that more

[copper cypress]

When I was in the second level, I heard the suspect say: “OH NO!They will kill us!!”

🤣

[smoky cedar]

For example

THE HAND
Operative One: (MORAL) Woah, these cops are cool, they haven’t killed anybody yet. Well terrorism sucks anyways so I guess I’ll go to jail
Operative two: (MORAL) Hey.. well it’s not like I’m gonna be shot anyway, they’ve killed all my friends.. nobody is here to help me.. Fuck it im going to jail or being shot on sight. Not like one is better than the other anyway
Operative 3: (ANGRY) Is this dipshit really arresting my friends? ALLAH U AKHBAR
Operative 4: (ANGRY) HES KILLED ALL MY FRIENDS! I AM NOT GOING DOWN WITHOUT S FIGHT

I’m sure you get the point

Certain NPCs act different ways

[copper cypress]

Got it

[smoky cedar]

Depends how you approach them too

I’d always approach from long range otherwise I’d be pumped right to Jesus

[ebon lark]

I heard Carriers of the Vine is full with shotgun suspects

I'm kinda scared

[smoky cedar]

It is and it’s pain

Either they have a fully automatic assault rifle, a shotgun, or even a LMG (Saw an enemy utilize one once..)

[ebon lark]

And I'm playing the game with jug's Gameplay Review, so there's probably gonna be 24 suspects or some shit, I know it's a big map

So... yay. Looking forward to getting my shit pushed in

[smoky cedar]

There’s like 30 with the AI overhauls i use

And it felt like PAIN.

It was HORRIBLE

They have lower morale than the hand a mother fucking TERRORIST ORGANIZATION

[astral lotus]

ive found that unless i get up close and personal they will never give up

so i just try my best to sneak up on them around corners and yell at their faces

[ebon lark]

Greased Palms sucked hairy ass with 23 suspects. So many little angles in-between props where they shoot and those .357 Magnum dudes flanking towards the store were awful

[astral lotus]

most of the time they just give up instantly, if they raise their gun a bullet in the face fixes it

when im far away he just backs away and starts shooting

[tacit gull]

yeah there's a dumbass system in place where suspects have higher chance of surrender the closer you are lmao

[sudden marsh]

there any good pistols? the five seven hits like a fucking napkin at kids birthday party

[astral lotus]

i just use usp

mmuh .45 with mmuh ammo

[smoky cedar]

When im far they either run away (Not like I have a mod that allows me to sprint faster than criminals) or they start gunning me down

[tacit gull]

all of the pistols that aren't 1911s are fine

[smoky cedar]

I usually take them from medium or long range

Most effective for me

[sudden marsh]

suppressor?

[astral lotus]

no supressor

makes it long

[ebon lark]

Ironically, the Five-Seven is the most reliable pistol I've used thus far, because of the armor pen and high bullet count. Easy to incapacitate targets with some quick taps. But I mostly run the M45A1 now, because cool tan gun chambed in 45 American Carnage Projectile

I rarely end up using pistols unless I'm trying to John Wick a level, so... pistols are just for show for me

[smoky cedar]

I usually run Glock or 5-7

[muted star]

But muh 2 world wars

[smoky cedar]

Alright that’s 5 S ranks 13 more to go

[sudden marsh]

RoN is a bigger world war, 7 rounds aint shit

[ebon lark]

Just enough for Voll, though

[smoky cedar]

fr

[pearl shuttle]

uh based?

[ebon lark]

Beige rules, fuck all that black, camo or anodized shit

Give me sandy mud diarrhea color on everything

[wide marlin]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[stoic vortex]

how to get an A in port hoken?

[ebon lark]

Arrest as many suspects as possible, do all objectives and soft objectives and if you have to open fire, do your best to shoot for incapacitations @stoic vortex
Works for every level

[stoic vortex]

ah

so the problem is me

gotcha

[ebon lark]

If you use AP on 5.56 rifles, you can go for 2 chest shots on armored targets and they'll be incapacitated or if you want to play it safe (or they don't have armor), go for shots in the pelvis. Avoid the right leg, because you'll hit their femoral artery and they will bleed out either with an animation or on the ground after you tie them and report them as incapacitated. The SLR47 and SA-58 can also incapacitate with AP, but... big boolet hurts a lot and may not work.

[lilac seal]

when i'm using the beanbag shotgun, sometimes it's not fully accurate, i'll line up the ironsights and i still won't hit them. is there some offset shot with the beanbag shotgun? is there an attachment everyone runs? or do i just suck, 😭. and yes i am stabilizing with shift.

[ebon lark]

Have you tried running a laser on it and point-shooting it ? Shotguns have much slower ADS and more movement than AR/SMG weapons when aiming and shooting while aimed

So if you're used to playing with ARs or SMGs, you might be aiming down the sights quickly as if you're playing with them, but shotguns are significantly slower so you end up shooting preemptively

And this is a guess, but there might be more inertia to the weapon as you sway your aim to the sides, since the weapon IS bigger and heavier

[lilac seal]

i always hardscope, is that a bad idea?

I would think so

[ebon lark]

No idea if it's a mechanic in the game, though

[ebon lark]

I only point-shoot when I play with NVGs or I'm clearing a tight space where I need the visibility more. Other than that, I don't have a problem aiming through the optic at all, even with the shotguns. I just take it a little slower with the shotguns, especially the beanbag since you don't have any spread to help you.

[lilac seal]

i say this cause sometimes my canted laser will be dead on the middle of a suspect and sometimes it won't hit then at all

[lilac seal]

yeah

[ebon lark]

But I did try point-shooting the bean bag with a red laser and it was actually pretty solid. Try it, might be your thing. I just like to run flashlights on everything, because RoN always has weird places where colors blend with each other over distance or there's some fog or something obstructing my vision

[lilac seal]

alright 👍

[ebon lark]

But overall, you don't have any grips to use to speed up aim time, so shotguns are ALWAYS slower to aim and use in comparison to other weapons, so keep that in mind in general

[lilac seal]

is point shooting ADSing and shooting quickly?

[lethal solstice]

omg i got barrel stuffed by an enemy and couldn't shoot him lol first time that's ever happen

[ebon lark]

It's when you tild the weapon sideways. The default keybind is P, I think.

[lethal solstice]

no. Just means hipfire

I changed mine to space

[ebon lark]

You actually ADS, but when you toggle point-shoot, the weapon pulls down and is rotated inwards by 45 degrees or so

[tiny mountain]

Is delayed firing a bug or intended feature?

When you click mouse and it doesn't fire

[ebon lark]

So when you're close range and you don't need accuracy, you can have much better vision of what's going on and you can also combine it with NVGs and IR laser to shoot very accurately. And with a laser or not, your gun is still ADS-ed, so your shots don't just go random places as if you hipfire. You just have a worse reference of where the bullets will go, unless you use a laser. But even then, if it's a normal red laser, you'll be losing the dot in some places.

[lethal solstice]

^ so much fun just whipping the laser

[lilac seal]

i do this, i might just suck at hitting people

[sick seal]

Alright, I only joined because I need to know something

Does the B1301 do less damage than the M1014?

[jolly verge]

Damage depends on caliber you using, not weapon

[sick seal]

Idk, just feels like it preforms worse overall

[keen pebble]

Sooo im only 3 missions in and after playing 32mb a sec i gotta know... is there some sort of debrief after missions or a way to piece together lore / story in the game other than trying to look around the station for papers and boards?

[jolly verge]

it's will perform worse if you trying pen any armor with buckshots

[ebon lark]

The levels themselves tell a lot of the story

But after completing a level, take a right from the front desk in the LSPD HQ, keep walking straight until you find the Evidence Locker

[keen pebble]

oh so we can actually go in the evidence locker and see whats in there / what we detained in the levels?

[ebon lark]

In there, you can find file boxes with more colorful labels standing out from the map props and you can press F. Gives you a 3D model and a description outlining some things from each level

Sometimes more than 1 item, too

But overall, listening to the pre-mission briefings, the 911 dispatch call and then the level's environment is what gives you the most of the story

The briefing before the mission actually acts like a debrief on the mission before it. Most of the briefing recordings outline the connection between the previous mission to the one you're about to play

[keen pebble]

siiiick thanks alot

[lethal solstice]

Actually didn't know this. Pretty cool

[ebon lark]

Me neither, saw it by accident a couple of days ago. I have no idea which evidence box is from what level, since I'm on Buy Cheap, Buy Twice right now and not all evidences are obvious in what level they're from

There's like, 2 or 3 cellphones with messages related to the cartel storyline. In spanish. Have fun guessing which is from the gas station, which from the postal service and which from the tunnel to Tijuana

[sly salmon]

Say what happened to ridgeline?

i can't find it on the mission select menu

[granite peak]

for the hanged man achievement can u use the command menu cuz one video from a month ago said u can’t and one from 2 months ago said u can

also he used nvgs when the most recent vid said only helmet

[ebon lark]

A Lethal Obsession is the name for the completed level with the v1.0 release

[sly salmon]

why were they renamed?

[ebon lark]

Because their previous names were just placeholders.

Newer names are more artistic, like a chapter name rather than just a codename thing like "gas station", "hotel", "ridgeline" or something. They also reference the mission's theme overall.

[lethal solstice]

Wow that's actually REALLY cool. If you take the time with all the briefings and evidence room, yea you have a cool little story i'd imagine

I'll take some time today lol

[ebon lark]

There's a very interesting story with this game, but they don't present it like a linear story with gameplay attached. If you have some patience, you can listen to the 911 call and the briefing in the HQ before you start the missions and you can observe the levels as you play or after you cleared it. The storytelling is mostly environmental.

[lethal solstice]

Oh weird! if you look at the TH-X Camera in the evidence room and rotate it around, you can still see the whole room kinda in the screen lol

[ebon lark]

A Lethal Obsession specifically has I think 3 voice recordings from the suspect you can listen to and a bunch of weird conspiracy type stuff written about the house

[lethal solstice]

That's sick

Def going to spend some more time with all that

It def is a great bonus they didn't have to add. There is alot already into gaming mechanics they could of sent that and called it a day

Oddly enough the only other game I can think of with an accumulating evidence room is Arkham Knight

They should do this more often lol

[cosmic orbit]

is there a way to block a guy so i dont join his lobbies?

[delicate snow]

took them 1.5 months to add 2 minor bug fixes 💀

[sleek prism]

hi i dont play any games made after 2008 and i played ready or not and i have some questions/recommendations

• why does the game not support steam family sharing

• why do you move so slow? actual SWAT teams and special forces have to bust serious ass. can there not be an arcade mode with faster movement?

• why are only 3 of the assault rifles real guns i can think of off the top of my head without having to look them up? what swat team uses the G36?

• why are there guns in the game i cannot use? (AKM, SCAR-17, Uzi) those would be really fun to play with, what is the point of modeling and developing a gun that the player cannot even use

• add more cheats. HE grenades and a desert eagle

• please just remove the SR47 and add an actual AK-100 or AK-15, it does not resemble any real variant of the AK not even a krinkov and it is cartoonish in a tactical shooter like this

[muted star]

lol

[prime wing]

1. There are certain benefits attached to the supporter DLC that cannot be shared (NDA server ID, which is no longer available. Also I doubt that they would want to lose money by allowing family sharing

2. Movement is due to game design

3. The devs simply added most guns for fun, variety and aside from some differences in recoil, they are arguably the same.

[sleek prism]

my cousin does not even have DLC

[copper cypress]

HE grenades? Do you need an extra armored vehicle? Then it is equipped with cannon 😏

[sleek prism]

no i was on the school shooter level and i wanted to decimate the overpowered guy shooting at me

disabling family share is just encouraging people to pirate the game and not pay for it

[copper cypress]

You need a rifle paired with an AP or pepper launcher.

[sleek prism]

there's an M203/M320 in the game?

[copper cypress]

M320 has

[frail quartz]

The AK ingame is based off a Arsenal SLR-107UR , it's an American manufactured AK

[sleek prism]

no SWAT team will be using an arsenal AK, it is much more likely they would be using an AK from a more reputable brand that isn't near $2,000

if you want how american law enforcement sets their AKs up, here is an alaskan PD with AKs

[frail quartz]

Yeah, I'm guessing the developers just wanted to go with something a bit more CQB oriented

[sleek prism]

https://ibb.co/g316DxL

[tacit gull]

The guns you listed are made for suspects, not players

[sleek prism]

if they are fully modeled and implemented into the game, why am i restricted from using them because its not realistic

[prime wing]

as far as weapon selection goes for players to use, I would not give it too much thought as it is not really a VOID strength. They used advisors but for some stuff, but I dont really think they were trying to go for 1:1 for weapons. Sometimes its just random choices, and that is about it for the most part.

[frail quartz]

They aren't, they only have the worldmodels

[sleek prism]

GTA 5 gives you laser guns and shit after you complete the campaign, every game has extras that dont pertain to the story

[tacit gull]

They aren't implemented into the game, the way the suspect arsenal works is pretty different to yours and the first person animations are just placeholder

[timid wraith]

if an ai dies can i still get s tier like they died but will that stop me from getting s tier

[frail quartz]

If you wanted to make Suspect weapons usable by the player you'd have to model their own unique viewmodels, attachments, and animations

[sleek prism]

i do wanna ask who actually said "lets add the SCAR-16 instead of the SCAR-17 for players"

[frail quartz]

I wish I could answer that 🤷‍♂️

[sleek prism]

for the amount of american law enforcement that uses the SCAR they all use the 17 because its the only good version of it

now a SCAR-17 converted to 5.56 is actually a good gun but the 16 is a relabeled AR-15

[tacit gull]

The heavy scar was originally a player weapon aswell, but was replaced by the one we currently have

[sleek prism]

i figured that it was replaced by the FAL

[tacit gull]

The FAL was replaced by the SA-58

[sleek prism]

FAL would make sense if i was playing as like, african swat or brazillian swat (and international law enforcement scenarios would be a good addition)

[timid wraith]

so can i still get s tier?

[sleek prism]

the SA-58 is a FAL with rails on it

[tacit gull]

no

[tacit gull]

There is another FAL in the game (technically still SA-58) used by suspects, but that was also a player gun

[sleek prism]

i think a lot of things in the game were not thought out very well

[frail quartz]

The SA-58 was one of those weapons added purely because it was too iconic to leave out

[sleek prism]

preventing players from moving fast to not play like call of duty is amicably pretarted

watch real police shootouts they haul absolute ass

you move like youre holding the ALT key in half life 1

[prime wing]

yeah but its a game

[sleek prism]

Ready or Not is an intense, tactical, first-person shooter that depicts a modern-day world in which SWAT police units are called to defuse hostile and confronting situations.

[tacit gull]

I think they removed the sprinting in order to simplify overall gunplay and make tighter maps

even though some of the maps are still massive

[sleek prism]

the maps need more civillian NPCs around

[prime wing]

while I agree that it would add to the experience, there are design reasons why its not that way, even if the option would be cool.

[sleek prism]

it seems like there's barely any

[sleek prism]

there should be an arcade mode with health in the bottom right, ammo counter, faster movement, etc

[tacit gull]

Arguing design reasons with this game is probably not a hill you wanna die on

[sleek prism]

for a $50 game i think it's pretty important

i wouldn't argue if it was $30

[tacit gull]

VOID seem to disagree

It seems they happily consider a game still in what is basically an alpha state to be worth $50 and worthy of a "1.0" title

[sleek prism]

maybe my opinions seem out of place, i do not play very many games made after like 2012, i stick to the older games as they are more fun and less tryhardish

[prime wing]

You dont have to buy the game

[sleek prism]

game should not be gold master and out of early access until it has a console port to maximize playerbase

[sleek prism]

yes i do, they disabled family sharing

[frail quartz]

I still feel like sprinting might not hurt to add as long as they add a cooldown between stopping sprinting and being able to fire again so players don't go full CoD mode

[ebon lark]

First responders and SWAT are different things. When there's a shooter and you're a first responder, you gotta go in. If SWAT are called, it means suspects are already set in their positions, barricaded or hold hostages and when it comes to clearing buildings room by room, rushing in gets you killed immediately. Not even Navy SEALs rush through buildings. You never see bodycam shootouts where you have more than 3 people. A building crawling with meth heads or a hotel held hostage by veterans isn't something a beat cop with a glock can handle and it's not a situation where rushing in like those bodycam recordings will go well.

[tacit gull]

Most of them aren't, the game is just in a pretty bad identity crisis right now

[delicate snow]

https://gatdaily.com/articles/knights-sr-47-the-forgotten-knights-rifle/

is a real gun guy

[tacit gull]

I do think that new guns are probably the last thing this game needs right now, there's definetly more pressing issues gameplay and design wise rather than content wise

[sleek prism]

this looks to be the same as the colt CK901

[delicate snow]

that came after but yes similar

[frail quartz]

That is NOT the AK ingame

[delicate snow]

i didnt ask

[sleek prism]

yeah that barely resembles it

[delicate snow]

sr47 is a real gun

[sleek prism]

you are an idiot that is quite literally the question i was asking

[frail quartz]

Yeah but that's a completely different gun from the SLR ingame

[delicate snow]

https://gatdaily.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/10/RK-gun-wiki.jpg
this most definitely is the same one

[frail quartz]

It doesn't even have a paddle release like the one ingame does

[sleek prism]

i wish i had image perms to compare

[delicate snow]

he said sr47 isnt a real gun, i didnt ask what it looks like dipshits

[tacit gull]

#🎨ron-screenshots-and-art

[delicate snow]

i dont care

[tacit gull]

whoa there

[delicate snow]

lol he insulted me first

[frail quartz]

He probably mistyped, they weren't actually talking about a real sr47

They just forgot the L between the S and the R

[tacit gull]

Yeah they took the L alright

[sleek prism]

clearly you can see in the media chat

[delicate snow]

💀

[sleek prism]

game's AK does not have a forward assist or any AR elements

[frail quartz]

We already kind of established they misunderstood what you said 🤷‍♂️

They know it isn't the same gun ingame they just thought you were actually talking about a SR-47

[sleek prism]

i believe the SLR47 should be replaced with an AK12 or it's shortened variant the AK12K (in a perfect world without politics we would have these in america to enjoy)

literally dont change anything about the gun just make a new model

realisitically it would fit more

[tacit gull]

There's already an AK-103(?) in the game files

[prime wing]

void gun model department has been hit or miss with weapons, but since the game is still in development (despite being out of early access), i think most of the gun models are not final unless it is stated; hopefully

[sleek prism]

which is the newest AK standardplace in america due to the russian gun ban in 2014

[ebon lark]

If we're talking accuracy, it wouldn't be an AK12, it'll be some variant from Arsenal as they export to the US. So if any american PD will have their hands on an AK rifle platform as a service weapon, it'll be an Arsenal. Like the SLR47 in the game, which is a slightly modified SLR-107 from Arsenal

[sleek prism]

arsenal is not the only company that exports AKs to the US

[frail quartz]

WYM export, the SLR is made in the US

[sleek prism]

zastava, kalashnikov USA, century arms, PSA, pioneer, list goes on

[ebon lark]

No, but it's definitely the biggest. Arsenal AKs are what you mostly see in the US, if we're talking modern models. It'll most likely be an Arsenal if it's for some standard service weapon.

[sleek prism]

most gun stores and rednecks i know only carry zastava

arsenal is overpriced for what they are

that or PSA, maybe century arms

[tacit gull]

To be fair

We have GPNVGS

So at that point i don't think anything is off the table

The whole "police is defunded" schtick is really inconsistent with this game

[frail quartz]

Honestly I know absolutely nothing about AKs compared to other platforms so I can't even begin to comprehend the differences between variants functionality wise

[sleek prism]

add some context, i am not a nightvision enthusiast

[sleek prism]

no police was ever defunded except for california and new york

[frail quartz]

As far as I'm aware it's just the furniture and stuff that's different

[sleek prism]

that is just the beginning

[ebon lark]

I just want the SCAR to have its folding stock, fuck that buffer tube backplate they put on it for the sake of having AR-style sliding stock

[soft narwhal]

He was talking about in game.
The whole thing about the police department in game, it was supposed to be underfunded.

[frail quartz]

I'm pretty sure the stock the MK16 has isn't even foldable

[sleek prism]

so in the games story, the police are underfunded?

[soft narwhal]

Clearly things have changed or they gave their entire budget to the swat team and that's it

[tacit gull]

Ridiculously expensive quad nods that cost like $80k a piece?

Atleast that's the price iremember off the top of my head

[sleek prism]

even real swat would not spend the money on that

real swat probably has hand-me-down colt manufactured M4A1

[tacit gull]

Yeah, so i don't think the devs care that much about what fits and what doesn't

[frail quartz]

Wasn't one of the big selling points of the game having authentic SWAT equipment?

[ebon lark]

FN's site lists both the Mk16 and Mk17 as their normal folding stock, I don't see one with a buffer tube plate

[soft narwhal]

No lol

SWAT teams here in some cities in Texas have KITTED out AR's lol

[ebon lark]

Coming stock from FN, that is

[tacit gull]

Sucks

[soft narwhal]

Other bigger cities around the country too

[sleek prism]

i think if the gameplay is going all tactical, the equipment should make me feel like im a real SWAT

[frail quartz]

What happened to the advisers they claim they worked closely with

[tacit gull]

They backtracked on what the gameplay was

[soft narwhal]

They've said they still work closely with him.

[prime wing]

at this point i dont know what the selling point is. I guess cool gear choices is the selling point and to be honest it is more appealing to the masses.

[soft narwhal]

They even gave images and had the advisor on for a newsletter several months ago. I don't remember specifically which one

[tacit gull]

The credits list 1 SWAT advisor and 2 military ones

[frail quartz]

Anyways, i know there's tons of mechanical changes people can make for ARs like swapping out its buffer tube or switching the gas system, but what is there to inovate with the AK's mechanics?

[sleek prism]

texas police probably gets a lot of money because texas is a big and populous state

[prime wing]

someone got mad because they werent named. I wonder why someone in active service wouldnt want their name out there 🗣️

[sleek prism]

i live in alabama and i have seen alabama SWAT use mostly donations from military overstock

[tacit gull]

Someone as in one of them or someone in the community?

[prime wing]

ron players

[ebon lark]

Turning the gas system into a short-stroke one similar to the SCAR or straight up like the HK416/SIG MCX and giving it a buffer tube for M4 sliding stocks (which they already do). And picatinny up the wazoo, but they also do that

But if they remove the long-stroke gas piston system, then it's really just an AK in shape and that's it

[prime wing]

I can understand both sides of the coin, but I dont think someone has to be named, at the end of the day its up to them since they can just get paid and leave it at that.

[frail quartz]

Yeah, those last two things with the buffer tubes and picatinnys are furniture-related changes rather than mechanical changes

[sleek prism]

buffer tube is an aftermarket attachment

[frail quartz]

I'm just wondering if there's absolutely any change between variants in terms of performance or reliability

Ones that use the same calibers and barrel lengths atleast

[sleek prism]

innovation in AK mechanics can be seen in modern rifles by KORD, the RD-704, AN-94, SR-3 vikhr and other AKs with advanced recoil mitigation systems,

[frail quartz]

Ok THATS the kind of innovation I'm curious about

[sleek prism]

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=AEK-971&useskin=monobook#Design_details

[ebon lark]

Honestly, apart from giving the AKs polymer furniture and picatinny rails on the dust cover and handguard for easier attachment mounting, the only other change to the base AK-47 rifle has been the weird shit they did in the 70s and 80s with the AN-94 and the other one with the counterweight gear system. And those were expensive prototypes. AKs have been the same for a long ass time from what I know.

[sleek prism]

i think that link may have included the theme i use sorry

[tacit gull]

AN-94 is borderline space gun

[sleek prism]

not entirely true

[sleek prism]

too expensive to be produced, most of it's elements went into the AEK-971

[tacit gull]

Also good luck maintaining that

[ebon lark]

Let's make a bolt, but also have a cartridge extractor that moves ahead of the bolt on the first shot and then have all that shit work with a pulley system

DaVinci would've geeked out about it if he saw it

[sleek prism]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GsbLFFp_YoM

[frail quartz]

I actually tried doing this before but the only thing he said when I tried showing it to him was "Chi sei?" and "Come sei entrato in casa mia?"

[timid wraith]

guys i am on twisted nerve but i cant find the last enemy where are they?

[abstract dagger]

use a steam command lmao

[timid wraith]

would that work? i havent killed anyone but idk anything about steam commands

[abstract dagger]

i mean its easy you open the steam caht thingy and ceck if theres any kill all enemys commands for ready or not

[timid wraith]

i cant kill them

im doing s tier

[abstract dagger]

fuck then bad luck for you you gotta restart it

[timid wraith]

why would i need to restart? i am just stuggling to fing the last guy

[abstract dagger]

well its either look arround the whole map multible times witch would take like 1-2 hours or either restart the game and kill them all witch would be arround 40-50 minutes

[timid wraith]

found him

[heady spade]

nice

now execute him

[timid wraith]

cant

[heady spade]

😟

[timid wraith]

also what soft objectives am i missing on twisted nerve? or just evidence

[heady spade]

any good modded maps that are not too big?

[heady spade]

i think reporting the kid

[timid wraith]

i got that and i got all the meth and meth labs and money

so i think its some evidence somewhere

[timid wraith]

I got it

[ebon lark]

The kid in the room upstairs isn't actually a soft objective, it's counted as a civilian. Same as the guy next to the fuel pumps on Thank you, come again

[timid wraith]

so its required ?

[ebon lark]

For S, everything is required

You wouldn't get "rescue all civilians" if you don't report the kid

And even if it turns out to be a soft objective, you still need all soft objectives done to get S, so it doesn't matter at the end of the day

[timid wraith]

any soft objectives i should know of on the spider

[ebon lark]

Nope. Just main objectives.

[timid wraith]

great

[reef narwhal]

The best rifle what rifle which rifle best gun what gun which gun primary weapon attachments attachment optic muzzle underbarrel overbarrel shooty kill kill.

IMO the best rifle is the F90.
I use the SRS scope, ASR brake, vertical grip, and flashlight
Hope that helps

[timid wraith]

bruh i was on the roof and i one shot killed the guy with beanbags how did that happen??

[ebon lark]

Headshots are guaranteed kills. You're effectively shooting a flat square slug at them.

[timid wraith]

I JUST RESTARTED AND DID THE SAME THING😭

[ebon lark]

STOP DOMING THEM, JESUS CHRIST JOHN WICK

Calm the fuck down, just shoot their dicks off

[timid wraith]

this is what happens when i play too much r6

[reef narwhal]

What's the best way to go about the mindjot data center raid?

[timid wraith]

i usually just ignored the server did the whole building and the outside and then the server

[ebon lark]

I usually go around, clear the outside and roof, lock every single door outside and then enter through the left side. Clear meeting room and the boss' office, then the staff room behind the front desk, the lobby, the hallway on the right leading to the restrooms, then the long hallway before the server room, first server in the windowed-off section, up the stairs to the offices, shoot the big server room from the windows and then go down and clear the rest if there's anything left afterwards.

[timid wraith]

i am more lethal with a NON lethal ammo than i am with 5.56

[bitter mason]

Idk if its the ai mod I have but suspects just seem deaf sometimes. Ill walk up behind them and compliance yell and they just ignore me.
asside from the non-compliance voice line that always seems to play when you yell

[sleek prism]

holy shit you move so fucking slow in this game

[fervent surge]

Hi Guys, are replays bugged or something? It does not show flashes (physical nade + its explosion)

[timid wraith]

press space

[sleek prism]

yes i figured that out

space should be climbing not some half assed jog

[timid wraith]

other than that you cant go faster as thats your top speed changing armour will change acceleration

[fervent surge]

you can rebind it 😉 I have it on ctrl xD

[timid wraith]

i just wish i wasnt crawilng when im leaning

[sleek prism]

i have armor the size of mw3 survival juggernaut and i still die in 3 shots

[timid wraith]

leaning makes you slow down at least 10 times

same

[fervent surge]

yup and it is correct

[timid wraith]

whats yall fav tattoo in game?

[sleek prism]

does the tazer not fucking work

[timid wraith]

some people are just built different and dont care

[proven crystal]

I cant find last one civ on "Elephant" mission 💀 My solider just standing when i ask him to search

[granite peak]

what does OD character stand for on nexus mods

[timid wraith]

overdose

[granite peak]

‘This version gives all OD characters an OD reskin’

[sleek prism]

i shouldve just played unreal tournament 2004 this game sucks ass

[timid wraith]

they took too many drugs

[timid wraith]

is a lethal obsession the easist s tier? there is only 2 guys

[bitter mason]

I assume OD as in "olive drab" the green uniforms

unless its not a uniform reskin then I have no clue

[lilac seal]

is neon tomb the only mission with real "terrorists"?

i would say maybe brisa cove is another terrorist mission, but they're ex military members. 🤔

i can't think of any other mission besides maybe relapse?

[humble mauve]

Neon and Relapse are both done by The Hand (Syrian Terror Group)

The Left Behind (Brisa Cove and Clemente Hotel) are technically by definition domestic terrorists

[lilac seal]

ah ok, 👍

[timid wraith]

"Thank you come again" S tier:😄
"a lethal obsession" S tier:😄
"ides of march" S tier:

[lilac seal]

also, i heard neon tomb suspects don't surrender easily, sometimes not even surrendering at all regardless of what you do. is that intended?

[bitter mason]

yes

depending on the map suspects may be more stubborn and deadly. Idk how big of a difference it is in vanilla

[lilac seal]

what do you do in that situation if you're trying to get S?

[bitter mason]

since I use modded ai

[bitter mason]

all less lethal

so pepperballs and beanbags

you can always get a surrender, no suspect will never surrender they might just need more convincing

[lilac seal]

👍

[stoic whale]

its so sad when these cod kids die because they think they can slide around, have a feast with 50 bullets, and have auto aim, so they just leave or if its their lobby they kick everyone

i really wish the devs do something about this because its stupid af to be immersed in a mission and use actual police tactics and then some idiot just decides to cry and kick the whole group

[bitter mason]

I feel thats out of the devs control

only way you can really avoid that other than getting lucky on the queue is finding some friends or ppl on this server to play with or join a 🤢 clan

[stoic whale]

maybe if they add in a penalty if you leave during the session?

[bitter mason]

hell no

I mean I dont play quickplay

but that wouldnt help I dont think

[stoic whale]

yeah actually youre right

maybe the devs could offer free brain surgery so that they dont have anger issues no more

[tacit gull]

you can also just host your own game cause it'll get filled up pretty quick

[stoic whale]

ive tried that but similar things happen

[tacit gull]

I'd be down to play but i ain't touching the game without astral's AI

[stoic whale]

astrals ai?

is that the mod that changeshow good the ai's aim is?

[tacit gull]

It's a mod that changes AI values and actually makes them interesting

[stoic whale]

oh

id have to install it first

[bitter mason]

fellow astrals enjoyer

[proven crystal]

I hate elephant mission.

[tacit gull]

actually been kind of wanting to try the new versions

[lilac seal]

what kind of headgear should you put on your ai teammates for S rank runs? gas mask so vks doesn't hurt them? or ballistic mask for survivability?

[tacit gull]

definetly ballistic mask, if the VKS kills them they were gonna die from the next hit anyway

[lilac seal]

alright 👍

[reef narwhal]

Legend, this works great

anybody know why i cant i fire this dude?

put it in #🎨ron-screenshots-and-art temporarily

[stable kernel]

You can only fire one officer per turn (between missions)

Or you do not have enough officers

[reef narwhal]

Do i just need more than four?

[stable kernel]

Perhaps, I have not tested that

[timid wraith]

GUys i need help

i cant play wiht my friend pls help

[stable kernel]

What issue are you having?

[subtle sigil]

how does replay work?? when i complete a mission it doesnt save it but i think its from one of my mods

[stable kernel]

You have to turn on the option to save replays in the options, which turns itself off every time you start the game

[shy tulip]

It's disabled by default, it looks like there is a bug where it gets disabled each round/restart

[subtle sigil]

dude... no way...

😭

[daring flame]

can you get s rank achievments in practice?

[chilly quiver]

Anyone know if this game is coming to console or where I can find more info about if it is

[fervent surge]

lol man, if you were expecting arena shooter from RoN 😂

[shy tulip]

Yes

[chilly quiver]

Is it?

[silk junco]

#💬general-discussion message

[daring flame]

anyone know why i cant find ready or not in vortex

[shy tulip]

Because Vortex either works or it doesn't, and most of the time it doesn't

[frail quartz]

I haven't had any issues with vortex so far 🤷‍♂️

[ionic gale]

OK my game is weird lol

I clearly went lethal, but I think I completed all adjectives including the soft ones so I got an S rank

Was the scoring system changed or something so that you don’t have to go non lethal?

[shy tulip]

nope

Sounds like mods

specifically all kill terrorist or something like that

[stable kernel]

No mercy for terrorists

[shy tulip]

yeah something like that

[high hamlet]

Tbh certain missions should allow fatalities for S rank

Elephant for example was canonically executed with full lethal force

[frail quartz]

I mean, the entire point of S rank is that it was a flawless mission

S rank is supposed to be an extra challenge, not the golden standard players are meant to strive for every time they play a mission

[ionic gale]

Dam

Uhm yeah, I think that’s probably the case lol

[lost inlet]

Hk416 in ron is the worst rifle

[fiery hill]

Why do you say that?

[frail quartz]

It has the worst recoil out of all the 5.56 assault rifles

[lost inlet]

The gun jump way more than other 556 rifle to my liking very inconsistent if you try to somewhat rapid fire

[fiery hill]

Fair enough, I use it sometimes because I only do single shot

[vernal bane]

It’s bad single shot because it also has a bouncy first single shot as well

Compared to its counterparts, the GA416 is the worst 5.56 gun in RoN

[frail quartz]

Also, you could probably argue that the BCM is worse because it has just as bad recoil, a lower firerate, supporter edition only, and uses a diccmod handguard instead of an MLOK one

[fiery hill]

Dam it works fine for me, never really had a recoil problem that I could say I didn’t like

But my main is the SR-16

[vernal bane]

BCM/416 are the 2 worst 5.56 weapons atm

I don’t use 5.56 but even I know to avoid it

[lost inlet]

Think gunfighter mod make sr 16 recoil look the most irl, make me feel like the gun get pushed into the shoulder instead the usual huge muzzle jump

[fiery hill]

Speaking of gunfighter I do use one of the custom guns it adds to game as well

It has decent recoil

[lost inlet]

Which custom gun?

[fiery hill]

M16A4

It adds that and the simulation guns in the training mode

[frail quartz]

Does the m16 still have unfinished sounds?

[fiery hill]

Yeah

[lost inlet]

Bruh m16 empty reload animation is wrong

[fiery hill]

Magazine sounds don’t work

And the fun fits well with the alpha uniform mod I use

[lost inlet]

Also simulation mk18 its just mk18 cant penetrate kevlar

[fiery hill]

I only use it for the training facility for rp purposes

I ain’t bringing no blue gun into the field

[lost inlet]

Its still have all the dmg of the 556 if you shoot the enemy ai in the limbs and head. Beside you have 2 orange guns in the less lethal category

[fiery hill]

I’ve never been one to carry less lethal other than pepper spray or a taser, if a suspect shoots me I’m gonna shoot him back, simple as that

[lost inlet]

Bruh you bring pepper spray?

[fiery hill]

Yeah but I don’t use it often, why?

[lost inlet]

It spew orange juice instead of pepper thats why

[fiery hill]

Lmao

[lost inlet]

It ineffective against all enemy they can still accurately hit you even when they “cover” their eyeballs

[glacial ridge]

Is it better to just have the AI swat members carry nothing but non lethals they keep downing suspects i need to keep alive lol

[stable kernel]

If you give them 5.56 AR's they pretty consistently incap suspects, which still counts for HVT arrest objectives

[stone bay]

why are the ai teammates so inaccurate with their shots

barely fucking hit a meth head shooting at us in the leg

how is there not a way to restart the mission with a button after failing
why do you have to go all the way back to the station and set it up again

just play practice mode dawg

the restart button is available there

[vital tide]

yo i didn't catch on, are the future dlcs going to be paid?

[winter mantle]

Some suspect literally rushed right between my whole squad

Did not even shoot until he was behind us

[glacial ridge]

my ai teammates are john wick out here

[winter mantle]

my ai teammates carry me 😭

[glacial ridge]

fr

i go thru an area and all i hear is gunshots i think they dropped 1 bad guy

we go back thru and i see like 3 dudes down like damn i didnt know yall were like that with it

[vernal bane]

Believe so, unless you bought the supporter edition (don’t quote me on this)

[stable kernel]

The first one is confirmed to be free for supporter edition, the others ones have not been confirmed yet but they said it was the "plan"

[copper cypress]

Is it possible that a door-blocking device could be pushed or opened by a suspect?

[stable kernel]

Yes because of a bug. Usually happens when the wedge is being put down, but I have seen it happen well after it has been set down.

[sharp fox]

i genuinly didnt know there was a "move to exit" command for civs

[winter mantle]

There is??

[stable kernel]

Yes, they will move to the entry point you selected for the mission and are supposed to be auto arrested when they get there (often does not work)

[winter mantle]

in what mission is the hotel combat theme

[stable kernel]

I don't think that track is currently used in the game

[winter mantle]

I installed the game for it

I wanted so badly to hear amen break while commiting war crimes :(

[copper cypress]

Still not fixed?

[stone bay]

i hate ironman
it feels like the AI is harder in it than the actual game
S ranks are a walk in the park

[stable kernel]

I don't belive so since I had it happen while I was wedging on the most recent patch

[copper cypress]

Well, it sounds like the developers don't want to fix it lol

Are bugs that benefit players quickly fixed🤣

[indigo bluff]

Has the game been changed in any way sense 1.0

[stable kernel]

Not really, they just go along with development since this is not a live service game. They notably have said nothing about fixing the alt f4 for ironman/campaign in general

[humble mauve]

I mean like

I don't think much can really be done about that besides flat out punishments

which would also likely apply to people that suffer crashes or other things which would just be a spit in the face

[stable kernel]

Not saying it should be fixed, maily because of what you said. IOI tried to fix the same issue in Hitman, they just made a petty change where alt f4 made the game close itself instead of being force closed so that the game saved before it ended. Players can still do the same thing by closing it in task manager, so in the end it accomplished nothing.

I do think they will fix the other items that are in the players favor, like unique models and voice lines for suspects giving them away instantly

[humble mauve]

but either way I don't really see the enjoyment in cheesing a single player game especially when there is nothing to sorta fight for (leaderboards, rankings, etc)

kinda just defeats the whole point

[stable kernel]

Yeah I agree, it would only need to be fixed for a competitive multiplayer game. But I did use that cheese for my ironman watch run because when I did it the AI was beyond stupidly aware and accurate and likely to shoot through every wall. Now it's not so bad so there's not much reason to cheese it

[frail quartz]

I guess its because some people might perceive some scenarios as the game being bullshit, I know a lot of people can be frustrated with the suspect/teammate ai

If my teammate decided to run into an open area and get shot to death without my command, I'd be pretty angry too

[humble mauve]

in those cases I understand

but like just making genuine mistakes and alt f4ing just kinda defeats the whole point of doing ironman

[frail quartz]

Yeah, that's the kinds of scenarios where I think its unreasonable

[ionic gale]

Man I love how earlier today a civilian just ran into my fuckin line of fire

TOC got angy at me lol

[frail quartz]

I mean, regardless if it was your fault or not I wouldn't expect TOC to be very happy

[ionic gale]

It wasn’t my fault that she had the IQ of a damn IKEA shelf by running into gunfire

I mean for me, the AI is like laughingly really bad

Very rarely, I get like genuinely angry on how bad the AI is most of the AI. Just tweaking is like weird funny moments.

But that’s just my game. Of course a lot of people are not really happy with how the AI is and I do see that.

[frail quartz]

I think it'd be neat if civilians could throw themselves to the ground like they'd probably realistically do if they were in close proximity to a SWAT officer's gunfire

[ionic gale]

They sort of do stuff like that in the game, but not what you’re describing

[stable kernel]

I mean it is mostly, it is the responsibility of anyone using a firearm to know what they are shooting at to avoid loss of life. But on the other hand the civ AI is really stupid so they do run into active firefights

[ionic gale]

It was like some confined space that I was firing at a suspect & I guess she took a bullet or two ;-;

[frail quartz]

I know if they're surrendered they kind of bend their heads down a bit but I'm talking lying on their sides and holding their heads

[ionic gale]

Like I said before, during my gameplay experience, the AI being weird as hell is like silly moments

But they are like some instances where their -897543 IQ frustrates me when I’m actually trying to do a mission

Usually when my AI buddies get like stuck to the wall, and I have to sort nudge them out lol

[frail quartz]

Didn't they specifically advertise in that one SWAT AI showcase video that they wouldn't get snagged on objects and walls?

[ionic gale]

I mean, I do run mods, so that could be a driving factor

Yeah, it’s most likely just my mods

[frail quartz]

The mods shouldn't alter the pathing itself, should it?

[ionic gale]

I’m not sure lol

Also, I really like the CQB training map

I like that mod map

I can muck around in it and it’s fun

[stable kernel]

There are no mods currently that affect SWAT AI pathing or action choice because those are too deeply coded without the SDK

Some mods affect some surface level SWAT AI stuff because its a numerical value that can be easily seen

[ionic gale]

The mods I usually run is like cosmetic mods and maybe some miscellaneous stuff

I have this MP5A3 reskik that is literally the Lachmann Sub from MWII lol

I mostly run mods like that

I also really love the times where your SWAT AI buddies absolutely save your bacon

Maybe there is a guy that tried to sneak behind you, but Prescott blew off his arm with a shotgun because he’s “like that”

[frail quartz]

Wait, if the Lachmann Sub doesn't have a paddle release, then does your character just kind of thumb air during the reload animations?

[ionic gale]

I can show you guys tomorrow a reload animation for it

I didn’t really pay attention to the reload of the gun, but yeah

Maybe it does

[ionic gale]

Also do you know how Michael in the streamer mission was listening to music?

do you guys know Andre Williams?, One of the suspects that was in the gas station mission?

[frail quartz]

Yeah, I think that was the same creator

[ionic gale]

Yeah

Too bad I shot him in the face with a shotgun because now he can’t make any more bangers 😔

I mean, if if I took him alive, he would’ve been in the clink for a long time, so he wouldn’t be able to drop bangers anyways

[frail quartz]

Prescott is my dedicated shield guy of my squad

Going off the old menu mockups that said Prescott had the most years of service of the D platoon and "enjoyed the authority gained in policing" I found it fitting for him to be the 'heavy' of the group

[ionic gale]

King is my shield guy lol

Also, I know that Michael has like a server farm that he doesn’t really want anybody to get into but why does a furry need an armed security detail?

[shy tulip]

he is single handedly keeping bitcoin at 59k

[ionic gale]

I think it’s silly how we took down a child diddler ring in Los Suenos all because some guy wanted to swat Michael for shits and giggles

[stable kernel]

That server farm was stealing power from nearby apartments, and had a lot of gangsters going in and out so it was only a matter of time

[ionic gale]

I’m still shocked by the fact that gas mask enemies are still affected by CS

[shy tulip]

There's also the fact you can hear his setup from literally across the street, so someoen probably could've thought they were genuinely shooting up the place

Temu gas filter

[ionic gale]

I thought Gerard’s boyfriend was immune by my spicy grenades 😔

So I never used them

[vernal bane]

He sometimes is

[frail quartz]

Also how come the model of Gerald's accomplice is used for multiple suspects now, wasn't he meant to be his own character?

[ionic gale]

He has long hair, a blue shirt, armor…

I forgot his exact character model cus I haven’t played a lethal obsession in a while lol

[vernal bane]

For Slope you rather bring flash/stinger than gas

[ionic gale]

I remember one time I was playing Rust Belt

I cleared the entire map and completed it finally

I stepped on a trip wire and I was expecting for TEMs needing to scrape bits of me off the walls

Thankfully it was only a stun grenade so I just was knocked off my ass for a few moments

[vernal bane]

You sure it wasn’t Hotel?

Didn’t know Border Reserve had traps

[stable kernel]

Some AI mods add traps to rust belt

Default has no traps

[ionic gale]

Yeah, it must’ve been an AI overhaul I had

[vernal bane]

That would make sense

[ionic gale]

I did not know that I made the game harder for myself unintentionally lol

I mean, earlier attempts, I did go sky high with me dying to the traps

They were all like in the house area where you enter the house to go to the tunnel

Yeah, I was confused too when I first like kicked opened a door and I went kablowie

Also earlier today I was playing sins of the father

There was this suspected that tanked a lil more than half of my magazine of 10mm & he survived 2 round of 9mm

He ended up, killing me

I threw my headset on the table out out of angr

It’s fine dw

[stable kernel]

This is why you should always use assault rifles in this game. Pistol calibers do almost nothing against armor.

[ionic gale]

It was like the white suit guys lol

[stable kernel]

They all have armor, despite some models not having visible armor

[ionic gale]

Ahh

[vernal bane]

Hotel is the level where the suspects have the most armor

L4A

[ionic gale]

FAL:

[vernal bane]

Yea 2 shot incap with SA-58 OSW

[ionic gale]

Yeah 7.62 is for these guys lol

[vernal bane]

But that’s practically almost every level with 7.62x51

[stone bay]

Shot a guy three times in the chest while he was wearing scrubs and he proceeded to one tap me in the face

[ionic gale]

I turn to 7.62 when it gets too ridiculous

[vernal bane]

I exclusively only use 7.62x51

[ionic gale]

Is he British because I’m sure that he must’ve did some weird jujutsu Kaisen move to like

[stone bay]

SA58 is so good

But I'm a SR-16 warrior

[stable kernel]

SA-58 is one to the chest with AP rounds against any level of armor, right? That is my experience

[ionic gale]

Slice your throat or something ;/;

[vernal bane]

1 for bare torso, 2 for armor

[stable kernel]

And club has some suspects with steel plates btw

[stone bay]

Just shot me once and I fell over limp

[vernal bane]

Gas Station is different; AP is 2 incap 1 JHP against bare torso

But otherwise exclusive 1/2 AP incap

[frail quartz]

On certain maps suspects have higher health, but on maps without health modifiers it one-shots

[ionic gale]

I know ur not typically supposed to aim for the head in a police situation butttttr

I mean, these guys are terrorists so I think anything is fair game lol

[stable kernel]

Yeah ap does more damage when it penetrates armor, so jhp is better against unarmored

[frail quartz]

And on maps beyond that like Ides of March it takes 2 regardless

[ionic gale]

Is jacketed hollow points even used that much in game?

[stone bay]

I just want to clear Relapse for the gear 😩

[ionic gale]

I only use them for like funsies

[stable kernel]

Without mods you can only use them on the first three levels really, then suspects get armor starting on Brixley

[ionic gale]

Yeah

[stone bay]

Why does the relapse gear have to be so drippy

[ionic gale]

it’s not like you could use JHP at unarmored spots

A suspect with armor even though their legs clearly has no visible armor on them it’s not like JHP will suddenly cripple them

[stable kernel]

You can shoot limbs with jhp but ap does more damage piercing armor so its better and easier to shoot for the chest with ap

[stone bay]

Looking for players is dead omll

[frail quartz]

JHP can reduce the amount of shots needed to down people on certain calibers but those are the only scenarios where I use them

[ionic gale]

I can’t imagine the devs adding more type of caliber variants

[vernal bane]

I usually only use AP because a lot of maps suspects have armor

[ionic gale]

I mean like

[frail quartz]

Even if suspects aren't wearing armor, I prefer to minimize the chances of suspects dying from limb shots

[ionic gale]

I think AP & JHP are going to be the only ones we got

[frail quartz]

I dont see the need for any more

[ionic gale]

Yeah

I mean I seen mods for .50 Beowolf

But that’s just mods

[frail quartz]

We're talking about varients, not calibers themselves

AP is for, well, armor penetration and general use, JHP is for extra stopping power and damage against unarmored targets

[ionic gale]

I heard some people wanting .40 Auto in the game

The Glock 22 would be a nice weapon for that, although

Idk the devs adding that

[frail quartz]

If it two-shots like .45 does, it might be a reasonable alternative

Otherwise it'd just be 9mm but with much more recoil and less mag capacity

[ionic gale]

Except for the M1911 variants… the USP is the only viable option for .45 auto pistols

[stable kernel]

SWAT 4 with Elite Force had JHP, JSP, FMJ, and AP all with different effects. This game is quite inspired by SWAT 4, and has some of the features only added in elite force so they might add it eventually

[ionic gale]

I’m kinda a frequent user of pistols bc I thin handguns are neat lol

[ionic gale]

I’m planning on getting SWAT 4 with the elite mod at some point

[frail quartz]

I mean, the AP in this game is basically meant to be FMJ, just renamed to AP so players would be less confused

[stable kernel]

Currently I think its in a better state than this game, as long as you can deal with the old game jank

[frail quartz]

I'm scared to play SWAT 4 because what if it completely shatters my image of this game?

[stable kernel]

True but the system with four ammo types has more of a continuum for effects vs flesh vs armor vs overpenetration

And currently as it is I think jhp just goes through bodies anyway

[frail quartz]

I'm pretty sure it doesn't, that'd just defeat one of the entire points of JHP

[stable kernel]

Well it definitely penetrates walls less for sure, I guess I haven't tested body penetration. It does do much better damage against soft flesh than AP, especially having a much lower damage penalty for limb hits

So it does have a purpose, but so many suspects having armor ruins it

[ionic gale]

Should u use slugs?…

Naw buckshot is good enough

Slugs just make shotguns an assault rifle but crap

Slugs are like neat to use but as a must have kit?… naw

[stable kernel]

Buckshot is literally worthless versus armor in this game, slugs can penetrate armor

You should try buckshot and see how many shots a guy can tank to the chest before going down. Spoiler: 3-4 sometimes

[shy tulip]

Just headshot, ez

The shotguns are just busted when it comes to shooting in someones general direction and instantly killing

[ionic gale]

I actually main shotguns a lot

Bc 00 Buckshot stops anything that doesn’t comply with my commands

[stable kernel]

I think it may have been because of a change from Gunfighter, but slugs one tap incap suspects through any armor from any range, so they are really good for that. If they don't one shot then they are worse than buckshot

But yeah buckshot can sometimes one hit kill from very far due to a limb or head being destroyed

I would rather take a rifle and shoot two shots than roll the dice on shotgun spread though

[ionic gale]

I also am a lil scared of the shotgun spread hitting civis but

For me, that like never happened from what I could remember

[grim hound]

every enemies in RoN beanbag-able?

[vernal bane]

All suspects and civys are beanbag-able, yes

[grim hound]

even if they wear armor and helmet? Or do I need to shoot specific parts of the body?

[vernal bane]

Beanbag stuns regardless of armor - the only difference is when you shoot in the head; you’ll kill the suspect/civy if you do so

[grim hound]

I lost my word with the enemies last time. IDK that they can open the door and then run away, just for me when I enter that same opened door activated booby trap. lol.

[stable kernel]

Suspect/civ AI cannot open doors with traps on it to prevent them from triggering them. If they did, it was a bug

[grim hound]

I think the trap is behind that door. Not in front of them.

I mean, if we open the door, we will activate the trap since the door open on that direction.

but they open the door from the inside so they didn't activate the trap. But since we just go in, we still step on the string and boom.

btw, your mod works fine. Haven't check the 50 and 75 but 25 works perfectly.

[stable kernel]

I have never seen sus/civ AI open a trapped door in either direction. I don't think trapped doors can be open at the start of the map, so I don't know what happened to you

They can walk into traps on a closed door though, but it is rare

[grim hound]

It's that rare? I thought the AI is so smart doing that.

We were playing on, uh, what that map called. The mission we have to secure 2 sniper rifle. From room 2204 or something.

We go right, the L shape hallway with 1 room that contains sniper in it. We got shot from the hallway and we shot back. That might the reason why suspect from the room open the door. We retreat a bit and throw smoke. The suspect retreat, we tried to enter that room which the door already opened and boom. We died.

[ebon lark]

They can trigger the traps by walking up the door, though. I've had 3 cases where Gerard and the other 2 guys tripped a bomb inside the house, but none of them were down when I entered. They were all fine.

But I'm willing to wager that if a veteran triggers a trap on Ides of March with a civvie close by, the civvie will die

[copper cypress]

Can a bullet with high muzzle kinetic energy and low muzzle velocity without penetrating the armored target easily cause the suspect to surrender or become incapacitated?

For example: I use 5.56 JHP vs 4.7 AP.

[jolly verge]

Nope, there is no muzzle kinetic/velocity. Suspect will be incapacitated after he lose 50% of total health

but every time you damage suspect with any caliber he lose 0.125 morale

[copper cypress]

Oh

[ebon lark]

Maybe not as part of the in-game code, but it DOES matter

[split lily]

hey does ready or not run well on rtx 1030?

[ebon lark]

If you use the MP7, P90 or Five-Seven, you can see much more incapacitations than other guns. Any gun has better chances of incapacitating targets with AP rounds, but if they're set on fighting you then the shots won't stop them in their tracks so you'll have to rely on quick shots in non-vital areas.
And to prove the point about the MP7, P90 and Five-Seven, take a Five-Seven, put AP rounds on it, enter the first level and shot the first suspect you see in the head with it ONCE. Instant 1-shot incapacitation. Does it make sense ? No. But it shows that the properties of the ammo does affect gameplay.

#🎨ron-screenshots-and-art message

[jolly verge]

That thing that you 1-shot incapacitation just mean it's non enough damage to kill suspect

on gas all suspects have 360hp and you ap 5.7 bullet is only 70 damage

multiply in by 3 and you will get 210 damage

[split lily]

how does a mf 357 magnum make a guy with no armor unconcious with 1 shot to the chest IF IT BREAKS THE SPINE

[jolly verge]

so you won't kill suspect with 5.7 caliber to the head, only civilians

[dreamy garden]

Why do the civilians always punch you on 213

[ebon lark]

Cranky from withdrawal, I guess. There's just 1 civvie thats genuinely compliant and he's always in the covered building's bedroom

[stone bay]

whenever I try and get into a modded map it does the countdown in the van thing and js goes to black and the countdown is at 00:00, do I have to wait or like is the mod messed up

[ebon lark]

Mod is messed up

OR there is a conflict with other mods

[stone bay]

its the supermarket 1

I'm trying to load in but it js takes forever and I js close the game

[ebon lark]

It shouldn't be stuck at loading

Check the Nexus page for bug reports and possible fixes

If there's nothing to be found, then there's a conflict with another mod somewhere

[stone bay]

thats rly dum

[ebon lark]

I mean, not really. No single mod can account for every other mod being compatible. It's just the way it is.

And there's always the chance that the map isn't updated for v1.0, but I take it for granted that you've checked

[stone bay]

with nexus mods (I've never used nexus before only the in-game mod manager thing) how do you install them??

I'm rly new to ron mods

[ebon lark]

Don't use the in-game mod.io implementation

Take a picture or something of the mods you've got, unsubscribe from them then go in your game's folder>Content>mod.io and delete everything and then redownload the mods you had from Nexus

As for the mods, they're all .pak files. You just take the mod's .pak file and throw it in \steamapps\common\Ready Or Not\ReadyOrNot\Content\Paks

Super easy

And of course, check the mod page for any specific instructions and so on

[stone bay]

rly? you don't need to extract anything? thats way easier than any other games I've tried to mod lol

[ebon lark]

Yeah

Mods from Nexus come in .rar file and they mostly just hold the .pak file in there. You extract in the Paks folder and that's it.
Some mods will have different choices of files like the Surefire flashlights that you can choose 4 different brightness levels from the files.
Some mods have dependencies, so you gotta check those in the "Requirements" tab on the Nexus page. RoN mods are easy to use, even if the game doesn't have full mod support like say Skyrim and the like

[unreal trail]

the elephant mission 911 call is horrifying

[stone bay]

the menu where you choose the missions detects the mod maps?

also why is the mod.io menu bad?

so, delete everything from the in game mod menu, and only use nexus

[ebon lark]

The implementation is bad and some mods have different options to choose from and mod.io doesn't let you pick them. It just gives you some file and that's it. It's janky in general.

And yes, unsubscribe from the in-game menu and then go in the Content folder and delete the mod.io folder completely to get rid of any potential residual files

As for map mods, I haven't downloaded any yet, so I can't tell you. Just read what's on the mod page

[stone bay]

So I js slap the Pak file into the pak folder in the game right

[ebon lark]

Yup. That's all there is to it.

[stone bay]

ty it worked

[misty island]

I had a suspect in Ides of March opening a trip-wired door a he incapacitaded himself. I shit myself, because I was doing achievement "The Hermit".

[copper cypress]

Will the suspect AI know that his companion is dead without seeing his companion being killed?

I just killed some terrorists in Neon and their leader killed himself ==

I heard: "You killed my friend!" "I will avenge you!" After a few seconds, I heard gunshots and then it showed that the mission target failed lol

[ebon lark]

I never thought Qadamah would choose to kill himself

[copper cypress]

It just happened lmao

Now I suddenly want to use the pepper launcher again🤣

[ebon lark]

I always end up shooting him, since he's so similar to his normal subordinates

[timid wraith]

i was missing one evidence like a gun on the floor for s tier and i opened a trap door

[misty island]

He often does that.

[misty island]

Ides of March?

[timid wraith]

how did you know?

[misty island]

There are only three maps with traps and only two with deadly. "A lethall obsession" is too small for a one gun to be a problem.

[timid wraith]

there are non deadly traps?

[ebon lark]

It's either Ides of March or A Lethal Obsession, I don't know if there are explosive traps on other raids. Sins of the Father has flashes and I know that the cult map is flashes, too

[misty island]

"Sin of the Father".

[misty island]

Cult map with the woman? I have never seen a single trap there.

[timid wraith]

idk why but i can do all of the missions pretty quickly but ides of march and sins of the father sucks and i cant do it

[misty island]

There is a guide on Steam for every single map, so you might want to use it.

[ebon lark]

Might be a chance that the video I watched was modded to put traps in there, too

[timid wraith]

same

ok so its not just me that hates ides of march

[misty island]

Well, Ides of March is pretty good, as this map is easily controllable.

[timid wraith]

easily controllable my ass

also i think steam is like censoring chat but i have it off

also yesterday i was trying to do 23mb/s but the gun was fading through the floor and just disappeared and couldnt get s tier

[ebon lark]

But I've noticed in multiplayer with my friends that guns just randomly get secured by themselves. In singleplayer, that's never happened.

[misty island]

Yeah, it often happens on this map. That why there is a trigger on some maps for weapons to "secure" themselves after some time. It is an awful solution for the problem as it only present on some maps and it breaks immersion.

[short swift]

how do you view team roster for AIs?? I cant find them

[timid wraith]

what do you mean to secure themselves?

[covert breach]

Do anybody know how to unlock "Developer's Ruined Watch"? I finished the game on Ironman mode without losing an officer, I even got the achievement but that didn't work.

[timid wraith]

i think that just happened to me now as i cant find a gun that he threw or dropped and the ai cant either

[misty island]

On some missions, for example, Greased palms, weapons will secure themselves with out you interaction with them after some time.

[misty island]

Did you fire any officer? Did they leave, baucse of stress?

[covert breach]

No, none.

I don’t remember, at least. Is it a problem?

[misty island]

Strange. Because for the achievement no offcer must die, but for the watch no officer must die, leave and get fired. Luckily, I got my watch on the first try.

[covert breach]

I didn’t fire any, and I don’t remember anyone leaving.

Should I try a second run on the same save slot?

[twilit sand]

is it normal that the "stack up" order just makes them stand there even when you enter the room/ are getting shot at

[misty island]

They might have left, because of stress. Do you remember them being on low stress level?

[misty island]

Maybe a different slot.

[misty island]

Yes. SWAT AI is dumb and it follows command with out any tought. They might return fire, if they see a suspect, but they will not try to hide from fire or do anything.

[twilit sand]

weird 🤷‍♂️

also what's the point of not being able to open doors while having the riot shield equipped yet you can still peak them (and open them like that)

[copper cypress]

If they do, players may complain about their unauthorized actions.

[twilit sand]

but I'd expect them to enter the room after I've opened it and you know, return fire

not just stand there and aim while not even shooting

[copper cypress]

🤔

[misty island]

FFS, they still do unauthorizes actions. Look at #📩feedback-reports-channel message and #📩feedback-reports-channel message . So if they become a bit "smarter" would not hurt at all.

[misty island]

Then give them order "move and clear" or "open and clear".

[timid wraith]

i hate ides of march s tier so much

still unable to do it

[twilit sand]

yeah but I mean the stack up command is literally useless

and from my experience they never returned fire

[misty island]

Do you use wedges?

[timid wraith]

if the door isnt already open and one of the ai dont die first then yeah

[misty island]

No, it is not. It does, what it does - SWAT AI stack at the door to prepare for the next order.

[twilit sand]

stacks up and just stands there

[covert breach]

Do you think that maybe I could dm the mod team and ask for the item?

[twilit sand]

doesnt shoot, doesnt enter, doesn't defend

it more seems like Its just bugged and they dont realize that Its open

[misty island]

SWAT AI does not really 'hear' enemies at all, so if they do not see an enemy, it does not exist for them, even if they take damage from it.

[twilit sand]

no they were just standing there while getting shot from infront of them, the enemy wasn't hiding nor was it far away

they've never shot back from my ex

[misty island]

No, mod are not developers and developer will do nothing. So you should just redo the whole run on a new save. You might use a guide on Steam guides for the achievement.

[pearl shuttle]

That's funny. I set it so that they stack up on opened doorways by default and they always shoot back. It's sort of a janky version of limited penetration but it works

The only issue with them in combat is that they always move to their clear points despite taking fire when it should be like SWAT 3 where they stop to engage and then move to the clear point when threats are neutralized

[pearl shuttle]

Should be like SWAT 3 where there's a delay between clearing a room and cuffing suspects/bagging weapons

[misty island]

There is, but after that they will just ignore any threat or enemies.

[pearl shuttle]

SWAT 3's delay seems less egregious I think

Then again suspects don't roam as much as they do in RoN lmao

[timid wraith]

i have done LAPS around ides of march and i cant find last civi

still cant find them

[hasty oak]

swat 3 is better tbh...

[proven crystal]

bruh i almost completed mission and then game crashed

[frosty tree]

AI fr be getting in the way when im tryna exit out of a door

[ionic gale]

Ye

I swear if Eli continues to have the mental brain capacity of a peanut and doesn’t move out of the fuckin way, I may do a little blue on blue out of anger

[frosty tree]

at one point im just gonna get a shotgun before i go into a mission and shoot anyone who gets stuck in a door

my first time doing a mission where there was traps

the front door was trapped and i didnt know, i sent my ai to breach and they all died

[ionic gale]

I’ve seen my comrades go boom too 😔

Honestly, if I had the technical expertise and time for it

I would definitely try out making my own mods

But yk uh I’m guessing we’ll have to pay subscription for blender or something like that, and just have to spend money some sort of way

[frosty tree]

blenders free

ive used it before

[sudden marsh]

whats t he best way to complete the car dealership mission? i keep dying no cap

i got so far, had to reload and died

[opaque birch]

full squad sa-58
fun switch on
unload on everything
pack 10 mags

[copper cypress]

Does durable damage only occur when bullets can penetrate armor?

[frosty tree]

whats like realistically the best armour to wear

cause i be wearing the heavy one

[opaque birch]

heavy, ceramic, front back and sides

[frosty tree]

so heavy, ceramic and full

[opaque birch]

only ceramic affects your speed and heavy gives you less mag capacity but more protection ofc

but like the ceramic speed debuff is minimal

its like 5% or so barely makes a difference ngl

[frosty tree]

ok

[stoic vortex]

why is Swan well beloved?

[jolly verge]

It's always damaging armor, no matter of penetration

[copper cypress]

Got it.

So it’s possible for me to use 9mm bullets to damage the suspect’s L4 armor?

Is the damage reduction effect of armor based on the fact that the armor has not been completely damaged or has not been penetrated?

[stable kernel]

I think all versions of the suspect armor break eventually when damaged enough, even though player kevlar and steel do not work that way

Pistol caliber does the least damage to the armor of course

[copper cypress]

All right @@

[stone bay]

What's everyone's favorite outfits to rock? I like doing the flannel from Valley of the Dolls and the OCP pants

The braclet you get for doing the school shooting mission on S is baller too

[copper cypress]

Would any of you use rifle ammunition above 7.62 regardless of the safety of the hostages🤣

[stone bay]

I don't know which rifle shoots a caliber above 7.62

[copper cypress]

I remember having two, but I forgot.

I was already getting ready for bed and couldn't turn on my computer to watch.

[ebon lark]

It's so fucking annoying when suspects hold civvies as meatshields and when you shoot the suspect in the head, the civvie is locked in the animation loop and you have to shoot him to get him incapacitated... Come on, VOID

[viscid thunder]

Ok I am at the end of my patience. I have completed "The Hanged Man" achievement like 6 times now and it has still not awarded the achievement. I have ran with no menu no goggles just flashes and taser. What on earth could be holding back the achievement?

[stone bay]

i feel like theyve abandoned trying to make the game better or theyre focused on putting it all into the one upcoming update

[frail quartz]

7.62x39 or 7.62 NATO?

I want whoever named the NATO cartridge fired

[vague sparrow]

Is it me or mirrors ain't working? I try to look at my characters reflection but NOTHING from out the mirror?

[viscid thunder]

they did that to reduce loading on peoples computers. I think it should be a feature that you can enable

[vague sparrow]

Where could I find that shi?

[frosty tree]

he meant that he thinks it should be added as a feature i think

[viscid thunder]

im pretty sure you cant. im saying they should make it that way. after they fix their bugged achievements

[vague sparrow]

oh nvm

[night pasture]

They did have the option for it but it didn't work properly so even when turned off the game still rendered mirrors something like that so it was removed fully.

so i doubt they will ever come back

[stable kernel]

For the "use only" acheivements, spawn and swap off primary immediately. You cannot use or pull out: NVG, any long tactical, wedges, anything not listed on the achievement that requires left clicking, or the multitool. Your swat using rifles does not matter (and is in fact how you deal with most of the suspects), but do not have them do anything other than hold, stack up, cover, follow, enter and clear, open and clear, or kick and clear, and search and secure. Having them use any equipment will likely invalidate the achievement.

It can only be done in commander or practice as well

[viscid thunder]

the thing is I have done that so many times I cannot figure out the problem. instantly swap to taser and only press g for grenades.

[stable kernel]

NVG probably, or a bot using equipment

[viscid thunder]

they cant even lockpick?

[stable kernel]

No. Open unlocked doors and kick locked ones

[viscid thunder]

no i mean the ai swat

[stable kernel]

Yes for them as well

The only thing they can do that you cannot is use their primary weapon

For hanged man and way out west they have to follow the same rules as you minus the primary weapon

That also probably means no shield for the ai, though I did not test

Just give everyone including yourself a mirror gun, breach shotgun, or a ram but never use them

Using a weapon with the shield counts as a separate type of weapon, so it would invalidate the achievement

[viscid thunder]

thank you. that one registered.

[livid idol]

all my dudes are on crisis

[viscid thunder]

time to solo gas

[livid idol]

ooo i unlocked 3 more officers

i feel like going solo will be inevitable

[stable kernel]

The game will always supply you with 4 officers so you have a full squad

[livid idol]

just finished the third one, "twisted nerve"

shit was scary ngl

[livid idol]

sweet!

[knotty tendon]

what would you guys say the best shotgun in the game is

[opaque birch]

twisted nerve probably the scariest mission in the whole game

[opaque birch]

how many times i gotta tell yall.. SUPER NOVA GOATED

[livid idol]

amount of guys that pop out of no where is just insane, and the flipping caves with the scary sketches

[stable kernel]

If you care about unlocking your officer traits, keep their mental state in check by taking at least one quarter to one third of the suspects alive for the mission. To do this use nonlethal equipment: flashes/stingers/gas and the taser, combined with breaching doors with the battering ram/breaching shotgun/c2

[opaque birch]

and you gotta use nvgs and shit so its even scarier

[stable kernel]

But they are expendable if you don’t care

[knotty tendon]

how do i put gun skins on 😩

[opaque birch]

you dont

[knotty tendon]

i downloaded a mod though

[livid idol]

yea its terrifying

[knotty tendon]

does it j apply

[livid idol]

ah alright thanks bro

[opaque birch]

no you gotta put the mod in the paks folder

[knotty tendon]

i did

[opaque birch]

#❓modding-faq-archive or #🔧modding-chat

[knotty tendon]

its in my mod manager thing

[opaque birch]

check the paks folder to see if the pak is there or just the folder or .zip file

[wispy sequoia]

are the levels of ready or not based on real events?

[opaque birch]

no

well not all of them

[stable kernel]

Inspired yes, based no

Namely the nightclub and I would say ridgeline as well

[opaque birch]

sullivan slope (a lethal obsession) is based off of ruby ridge and iirc elephant (the name) is a reference to an actual shooting iirc

[stable kernel]

Elephant is loosely inspired by columbine, but loosely

Neon tomb is inspired by the pulse nightclub