👮ron-discussion

[hexed granite]

sure

[hushed rover]

anyways

i'll save you from the pain if you wanna try it

dms

[neat gazelle]

welcome welcome to city 17

[tawdry nymph]

Any good modded maps?

[bitter field]

I need some advice. (Port) (S Rank attempt) I've got the warehouse completely wedged off and the tower secure. The entire outside is also clear. Any suggestions for going about the warehouse?

I'm thinking of trying to get suspects to surrender, then order them back through the doors, but there are at least 12 in the warehouse

And I can see many with the mirror

[hushed rover]

is there a way to lock the cosmetics again?

i tested out the mod which unlocks all of them, uninstalled it and i still own all of the cosmetics

i would like to actually earn them

[undone plank]

Did you use modio?

[high hamlet]

Is it normal for the civilians in Elephant to be thrown into the air by some unseen force?

[stable kernel]

Uninstallation instructions are in #❓modding-faq-archive . Unsubscribing is not sufficient to uninstall the mod

[ionic gale]

Hey guys

[twin finch]

hello

[hushed rover]

thanks

[hexed escarp]

this happens on basically any map

probably just something to do with collisions

[tawny scroll]

🫵🏽 CITY 17 EH?! ALL MY FELLAS EARRAPE EACH OTHER WITH THE CLOUDY COMBINE RADIO

[neat pulsar]

Is there a bug that causes IR lasers to suddenly not work? Playing crackhouse and my IR wont turn on

[sudden marsh]

los suenos PD prob forgot to put a battery in it (again)

but in all seriousness, i think it is a bug ingame possibly, just make sure your keybinds are set up right first

[neat pulsar]

Figured it out, had to take my nvgs off then back on

[bitter mason]

Do suspects still priorities targeting the player i stg

[steep geode]

is there a way to change ads sens in ron?

[bitter mason]

doesnt seem like there is

[ionic gale]

I like the shotguns

[stoic vortex]

Which pistol holds the most rounds?

[vernal bane]

Five-seven if I’m not mistaken; 20 rounds a mag

[bright shale]

XBOX RELEASE NOW

Please

[stoic vortex]

How to switch between buckshot and slugs?

[gaunt turtle]

why

[bright shale]

It's a fun game and console players should get to have it too

[gaunt turtle]

agreed 110%

[bright shale]

👍

[languid tangle]

Theres already mods on nexus which have them all in ogg. I made a whole modpack themed around being the combine for my buddies and I with four different types of combine foot soldier voices to pick from with TOC being replaced by Overwatch and the beginnings of most missions starting with loud speakers telling citizens to prepare for instructions.

Heses the ones I use for voices but I also have like 20 other mods to make a near complete game overhaul
https://www.nexusmods.com/readyornot/mods/762
https://www.nexusmods.com/readyornot/mods/3861
https://www.nexusmods.com/readyornot/mods/3489
https://www.nexusmods.com/readyornot/mods/3482

I think those are the main ones but I had to mix and match some of them to get full VO as some of them are partially incomplete or just dont have many lines. If you look up "Half life" or similar things on nexus theres a handful of mods to overhal the rest of the game

[stone bay]

nien

[shrewd oriole]

Streamer 17

[outer shore]

Too many controls that won’t fit onto a controller

For example

Laser/Flashlight, night vision, free lean, free look, check ammo, give commands (to ai), melee

Those are some I just woke up I don’t remember them all

[heady spade]

melee is unimportant

[shy tulip]

press and hold Y for flashlight (who cares about Play station)

[heady spade]

Play station has no games

[heady spade]

also are there any mods that make AI health more realistic? Cuz no way someone irl can take a 5.56 to the chest and live

[outer shore]

Don’t say that ever again little boy

[heady spade]

Play station has no games

[royal sinew]

i try to do nonlethal runs, but my ai just keep shooting people

how do i stop them

[stone stump]

don't equip them with lethal weapons

[stone stump]

of course they can

[royal sinew]

they can still use pistols

[earnest phoenix]

take their ammo away

[royal sinew]

idk how

[stone stump]

the same way you change your ammo

[royal sinew]

oh right

[earnest phoenix]

they will still pull out their pistols and stare at the guy shooting at them but thats another issue

[heady spade]

bro what

a rifle round through the lung and heart is not survivable

[royal sinew]

postal service is such a terrible map omfg

[pine reef]

Armor - less enemies taking 4. 300 BO bullets to drop is wild

Don't even try to argue it's plausible on the level it is ingame

Also enemies not surrendering and being fast as fuck after being shot thrice is wild

[pine reef]

What I presume he meant is you can totally survive a. 556

HOWEVER

Heart, lung and multiple shots should incap or kill you basically instantly

[heady spade]

even 308 doesnt kill in the chest

[pine reef]

That's wild

With body armor?

No vitals?

Or just never

[stone stump]

i have no idea where you're aiming, but it's 2 bullets to incap most of the suspects (except those with "Armor 4" plate)

[pine reef]

I've had 4 bullets hit and them not go down

[heady spade]

never even without body armor in the heart

[pine reef]

Granted most were stomach shots

[pine reef]

Probably them trying to make it easier to not kill?

[stone stump]

skill issue smh

[pine reef]

Tho if you're taking a liter Sar 58

Literal*

[heady spade]

still kinda sucks how unrealistic it is

[pine reef]

You're not really going for thst

Yeah

[stone stump]

are you not aware how drugged people react to being shot? they basically don't give a shit

[pine reef]

MOTHERFUCKER A 762 TO THE HEART WILL DROP YOU WHATEVER

[heady spade]

no matter how high you are i youre shot in the heart you are dead

[pine reef]

AND THOSE DRUGGED PEOPLE SHOULDN'T BE STRAFESHOOTING ME THORUGH A TINY HOLE THEN

[heady spade]

and also its the same with every suspect. Not all of them are zoinked out of their mind

[pine reef]

Yeah...

My proposal:
Make suspects submit more
Make them perfectly strafeshoot thru small holes less
Make them less bullshit tanky

Unless they have lvl4 plates

[heady spade]

theres a few mods that do that. Except the health

[pine reef]

Also make the officers less resilient imo since you do need to balance it

And you shouldn't be taking 4 shots and still be able to use your arm effectively

[heady spade]

something like the grayzone warfare health model would be a dream for RoN

[stone stump]

ceramic is bugged so it is what it is

[pine reef]

Don't know gray zone

[pine reef]

Oh ceramic is stronger than it's supposed to be?

[stone stump]

yeah, like twice

[pine reef]

U sure?

[heady spade]

it basically has a hyper realistic health system where every organ is modelled and you react realistically to where youre shot

[pine reef]

Not that hard to do considering the limiter size of the game imo

Give us vitals, arms, legs, head

That's it essentially

Rest is jsut making the AI less John wick and not having them all Wanna be martyrs

[heady spade]

or just a mod

[pine reef]

In my opinion at Lear

Least

[pine reef]

In the actual game would be nice

[heady spade]

i mean yeah but its not a huge issue cuz theres already mods for that

[pine reef]

Meh

They should still do it proper, the mods just change some numbers

[heady spade]

id mod a health system but thats complicated as shit and ive never modded anything

[pine reef]

Afaik

[stone stump]

Rifles + LMGs deal only half durability damage to player Ceramic armor

[pine reef]

Oh

Oh god lmgs

Do not get me started on lmg npcs

[stone stump]

and they also don't penetrate kevlar armor (???)

[pine reef]

Anyway yeah that's it imo

I'm out

[pine reef]

Same for Ai, took 2 or 3 shots to drop a Kevlar npc

To the chest that is

Which is fair, but barely so

[copper cypress]

What weapons do you guys think the suspect has that would make you want to use a real gun instead of a pepper launcher?

[pine reef]

Currently oh larger maps anything

[stone stump]

doesn't really matter

[pine reef]

On smaller ones I'd take beanbags basically always unless I'm fighting Ted kazynski 2.0

[copper cypress]

I found that my Ai teammates killed a lot of terrorists in Neon Tomb and captured the leader alive without any loss of status. But I killed a lot of suspects on Sinuous Trail and captured some alive which caused their status to decline.

I'm not sure it would be overpowering for me to have my teammates use .300 and 7.62 caliber rifles on the Sinuous Trail.

[craggy yew]

I mean I wouldn’t feel bad killing terrorists who shot up a nightclub

[tawdry nymph]

Don’t think we all do

[copper cypress]

So the type of suspect on the map has an impact?

If I just kill a person trying to rob with a knife, my Ai teammate's status will decrease. If I kill a terrorist, will it increase instead of decreasing @@?

[fiery hill]

I usually let me ai get a fair shake of action so they can be alright in the end

[turbid grove]

how many Enemies are there at Rust Bucket?

because Damm i killed 10 and they were coming and coming

[hasty oak]

i go into greased palms with surpressed mp9

[copper cypress]

Are all pistol bullets unable to penetrate L4 armor?

I wanted to capture the terrorist leader alive, but I killed it using 5.56 ammo ==

[crude prism]

yeh

[copper cypress]

😨

I feel very troubled. Using rifle ammunition will directly kill important targets. The use of handgun ammunition and non-lethal weapons increases the risk of performing a mission.

[misty island]

Take a tazer, ot shoot limbs

Also grenades

[copper cypress]

Swat Ai doesn't seem to be able to use tasers and target limbs 😅

[crude prism]

just give them all beanbag or pepperball, basically all you can do

besides telling them to hold back when you find him

[copper cypress]

All right @@

Terrorists almost all look similar. It's hard to tell lmao

The important goals in the second level of the apartment are easy to identify and persuade to surrender😂

[umbral oar]

toc to entry team, less than a minute before you’re all dead

[stone bay]

When i arrest people without killing them, it says i can carry them. where do i put them? or do i just let them stay there

[umbral oar]

thats for moving them out of the way of stray bullets

usually fine where they are tho

[copper cypress]

The main purpose of pistol bullets is to incapacitate a suspect, while rifle bullets are used to cause death, right?

[regal swallow]

pistols, or, generally, sidearms are used as a backup option for when your primary is out of ammo or otherwise unuseable. pistol calibers are generally smaller since they're much more compact firearms, but this doesn't mean their main use is to incapacitate, if you wanna do that you'd be best using a beanbag shotgun or pepperball launcher

[true panther]

With any firearm, the idea of shooting someone is to render them, the threat, incapable of harming you any longer, usually by depriving them of the ability to continue acting consciously via destroying their internal organs and their connections to their central nervous system

In other words, the idea is to kill them generally

Handguns are weak because of physics, it's hard to have a package that can make a big bullet move that fast without exploding in your hand or being very unwieldy like those gimmicky single-shot .50bmg handguns

[copper cypress]

I tried it. My team suffered high casualties in certain levels

[misty island]

As you are an expert in this game, what is better atm to give SWAT AI? Beanbag or VKS? Beanbag wins in player hands, but my AI was really dumb with Beanbag.

[misty island]

13-15. Wait till you get to Hospital or Port.

[craggy yew]

Man port was horrible at the end

There was like 2 more people left and I was so on edge

[misty island]

Now time to do an Ironman mode run.

[crude prism]

If you're in commander mode, having 2 SWAT with the Pacifier trait + VKS is absurdly OP. You can get away with running 1 Pacifier though, as it's still OP as fuck.

Outside of commander mode, probably the beanbag, just because it's more consistent without the perks

Void is dumb and the traits are dumb and the mechanics are dumb

It's nuts how OP Pacifier is with gas

[misty island]

What about long distances for maps like port, car dealership and post office? Are they able to hit targets with a shotty?

[misty island]

Well, I should have went in commander mode for SP S ranks, but oh well.

[crude prism]

The SWAT will be unable to hit anything with the beanbag guns as they fire an actual projectile that needs to be lead at med-long range

[misty island]

Well, anyway, thank you!

Looks like Port will be fun.

[stone bay]

YO BRO

I'm scared, there is a mofo talking about the bible in a public lobby

[crude prism]

ah you've met the local nut

[misty island]

What?

[stone bay]

Oh no, he is known for that ?

Oh nooo so it's common thing now

Mofoka was like "your generation is doomed"

And i was like "Deez nutz in your mouth are doomed"

[umbral oar]

what ive learned from watchment:
christmas tree is bad
easter bunny is bad

[stone bay]

He saying i should love my neighbor, but that mofo took my cat... HE STOLE MY CAT AND I GOT HIM ON 4k!

Fuck my neighbor

[umbral oar]

alrighty

[stone bay]

Anyway, anyone know if the new DLC will bring new Achievements ?

[misty island]

I for 100% know that DLC will bring shit ton of bugs, broken mechanics, poor optimization.
At least, that's what Void can consistently bring.

[stone bay]

:c

But i trust Void

[misty island]

I would trust them to make a revenue, but not a game.

[stone bay]

:'c I still have faith

They fixed most of the bad things

[crude prism]

[sudden marsh]

finally someone with common sense, the ability on these RoN steam reviews to decipher stutters/frame changes is problematic

[misty island]

Lol
Look at my messages at the servers. I mean, I try my best, but... Void is Void...

I am trying my best for the Void, but they are just igonart. I really like the game, but so called "Hotfixes" are shit. Their ignorance is a bliss.

[astral lotus]

wait there will be a dlc?

[livid sluice]

What kind of maps would you guys wanna see in eventual DLCs or updates?

[shy tulip]

The mappy kinds

[smoky cedar]

aw man :(

i just misclicked and ruined my S rank run\

i head tapped a civ on accident

[sudden marsh]

voids "debrief updates" are tedious as hell, no one is ready to re-chew the same campaign and campaign missions over and over and over and over again

theres like No skirmish + no mission generator/editor like in Raven Shield and SWAT 4.
so it only kills most of the replayability besides custom mod maps, i think they removed mission mode feature that was from Early Access.

[misty island]

2 to be exact

[astral lotus]

what will they be

[misty island]

A buggy mess.

[tacit gull]

One of the DLC's is named home invasion, no further details

[jaunty pebble]

RoN would be a lot more interesting if gear like vests and helmets had different benifits and drawbacks and you could buy new gear for your team after missions instead of getting cosmetics as you go through missions

Same with weapons and equipment

[tacit gull]

A gamemode where you micromanage your team and their assets would have been a lot more interesting than the disaster that is commander mode

But i would have rather had ye ole campaign like SWAT 4 and 3 did with memorable characters that plant the game and its narrative in the ground

[astral lotus]

personally i like not being punished but i also hate how unimportant swat officers are

they could give them more than just a trait that can be replaced

[jaunty pebble]

With the difference in tech I would want a lot more than just a remastered swat 4 game

I would love in the future to see actual civilian interactions

[tacit gull]

Well you definetly got less than that

[tacit gull]

Also yes, officers are literally nothing but cannon fodder right now, especially the first time around

[jaunty pebble]

Being punished makes a game feel challenging and have weight.
Otherwise who cares about throwing more unmemorable NPCs into a meat grinder that is brisa cove

[astral lotus]

a system where they actually get better (not just unlock generic trait) as they complete missions would be nice

[astral lotus]

yeah as long as your equipment stays free that would be good

prevents you from full armor sa58'ing your guys

doesnt, actually

[daring flame]

personally i think they should add an income system to Ready or Not. like you have to buy ammo and gear before each mission and when an officer dies you take a huge income loss

[tacit gull]

Actually an infinitely replayable gamemode with randomly generated missions sounds awesome and i think would fit commander mode if it does go this route

But right now commander mode isn't a campaign, it isn't infinitely replayable and it isn't really thought out or enjoyable

[astral lotus]

it feels like a campaign

[tacit gull]

It's a NEUTERED ass gamemode that doesn't really offer anything

[daring flame]

sounds like most of ready or not lol

[astral lotus]

all the levels are connected from what i can find (except the school shooting)

sure its not a very good campaign but it feels connected

[daring flame]

school shooting isnt connected because it's a shoehorned in deleted mission

[tacit gull]

beachfront doesnt really seem connected either

[astral lotus]

yeah true

[jaunty pebble]

Imagine this:
Game starts
First mission is a simple 1 barricaded suspect
Team has starter gear (unmodified rifles and only basic tools and vests)
As you progress missions get more complicated and more difficult
As you progress you also unlock and purchase different items and gear for your team
The officers get better over time and listen to commands better
Death is still permanent for them but also costs you money
Failed missions lower your budget and successful increase it depending on mission score

[astral lotus]

that would be nice

[tacit gull]

I'm not for unlocking different gear, rather just a simple points system that allows you to get more expensive gear in better quantities

[astral lotus]

i wouldnt want a campaign mode because i like how the "campaign" is in the game, but a more replayable gamemode would be very good

[daring flame]

is it really a campaign or is it just a mission selection screen

[tacit gull]

I despise the campaign mode and i wish it just got removed from the game at this point if it's not gonna be expanded

[daring flame]

a campaign has story and chararcters that interact with you

[tacit gull]

it's not even a campaign mode actually you're right

[astral lotus]

it has a story and characters tho

just not the swat (except judge)

[daring flame]

really? is the story explained to you? do the characters interact and talk to you?

[astral lotus]

that interact with you not so much either

idk i like commander but i agree that its not replayable

[daring flame]

keep in mind this is a 1.0 release with npcs in the HQ that dont have voice lines or you cant talk to them

[astral lotus]

i also agree 1.0 is very unfinished

[daring flame]

just feels like the game takes up too much space for little content

even after they "optimized" it

[tacit gull]

what does commander mode offer that practice doesn't ?

[daring flame]

nothing

[tacit gull]

the officer system that can be completely ignored?

[astral lotus]

i have never played practice

is there even a difference

[daring flame]

the officer system can be helpful if you metagame and want to S rank every mission

[tacit gull]

Practice just gives you the default team and you can't change their traits

[wanton aurora]

The briefings offer little. They barely explain what is going on in the mission let alone how they fit in with the others

[astral lotus]

all maps are unlocked?

[tacit gull]

you can also restart at any point

[astral lotus]

they arent meant to

[tacit gull]

you can unlock them through practice

[daring flame]

yeah and you would think as you go into a mission TOC would actually talk to you throughout the mission maye guide you and give you info on what you're doing besides complaining that you shot someone

[wanton aurora]

Then why do we have them?

[astral lotus]

worldbuilding i guess

it also helps you understand what you are going into rather than what is happening

[wanton aurora]

Don't give me that.

[astral lotus]

you are supposed to find out what is happening

[daring flame]

there is no worldbuilding in this game

[astral lotus]

it is what it is

[smoky cedar]

the "campaign" is more like a chronological telling of events that happen in the RoN lore

for example, the kidnapping rings and the child .... those are just parts in the story

this game is an untold story honestly
its more like one of those multiplayer games that has wild shitty lore that is hardly related to gameplay at all

[wanton aurora]

They barely do that though, as I said

[tacit gull]

LEGIT, warzone battlepass tier story

[astral lotus]

how so

[smoky cedar]

fr

[daring flame]

ready or not feels like spartan ops

just select a mission and go in

[smoky cedar]

fr

[wanton aurora]

They don't explain what you (being the police) know about the offenders, the lay of the land, their motivations etc

[astral lotus]

they do though

[wanton aurora]

Ok

[astral lotus]

gas station for example

you know who the enemies are and what they are doing

you cant really know their motives unless theyre a significant group like the left behind, then you do know their motives

[smoky cedar]

theres only sooo many maps in this game too, and they get pretty repetitive after a while. removing the gamemode selector kinda ruined the replayability and "theres a new experience every run"

[astral lotus]

i definitely agree

there should be some like, randomized map generator? or atleast a random mission generator mode

[tacit gull]

it also doesn't help that they gutted the AI and now they're as predictable as possible

[daring flame]

ai still shoots through walls and tracks you through walls

[astral lotus]

i felt that aswell but atleast theyre less john wicky for me

i used to have to do 40+ tries for each mission, now i do 4 at most

[tacit gull]

someone started working on it, but they left the community

[daring flame]

happy for them

[astral lotus]

sad for us

[daring flame]

hmmm i wonder why they left

[smoky cedar]

theres a map and everything, even 911 calls describe where NPC's spawn and who to look out for, for example
any new player not paying attention in relapse wouldnt know that some terrorists were disguised as doctors
only after checking the 911 calls in relapse i shot a good look at all doctors in my view, and nearly died on all most of my runs on relapse to fake docs

[tacit gull]

they got banned for being an asshole lmao

[smoky cedar]

L

[daring flame]

what did they say/do

[smoky cedar]

wanna know what he did

[daring flame]

you can literally see the pistols on their hips though

[tacit gull]

(they also maybe leaked NDA materials or something)

[smoky cedar]

people dont pay that much attention and fair point

[astral lotus]

i force myself to read the briefings until i get too bored and skip them

[daring flame]

what did he do

[smoky cedar]

he was an asshole

😎

[tacit gull]

me when SWAT 3 did this in 1999

[daring flame]

what did he really do though

what was his name

[astral lotus]

my eyesight is bad so i just look at movements most of the time

if he draws a gun im shooting him regardless of what he has on

[smoky cedar]

i dont read the briefings, i just have the team leader read it for me and i look over maps and 911 calls + civilians and suspects

[astral lotus]

i cant stand his voice something about it irritates me

[smoky cedar]

if he draws a gun im beanbagging the shit out of him

[smoky cedar]

he sounds like a bot

[astral lotus]

ready or not predicted ai takeover of team leader briefings

[smoky cedar]

:what

[sudden marsh]

this idea sounds good on paper, but will suck in execution

[astral lotus]

why

[tacit gull]

the execution already sucks ass, can't get much worse

[daring flame]

insert RoN dev notes

[smoky cedar]

RoN developers might as well rewrite the games code at that point :/ changing the whole storyline and shit

[tacit gull]

The worst part is that's what should happen, but won't

[smoky cedar]

yall r just asking for a whole new game at this point

[tacit gull]

the 1.0 label basically made sure of that

[primal agate]

?

[daring flame]

that's what 1.0 was supposed to be

you know, a product we paid for

[primal agate]

yea pretty much

[smoky cedar]

if im not mistaken this game development began in mid-late 2019 or sum

[sudden marsh]

1.0 was just a rushed Early Access update and they labeled it 1.0 to drive the price up

There is no excuse for calling v1.0 a full release when it has so many issues, some of which have been around for a year or more.

[tacit gull]

2016-17

[smoky cedar]

theres still game art from that time point i think

[smoky cedar]

damn

[tacit gull]

The game went through multiple iterations and looks WAY different in early development

[daring flame]

the dev team isnt the same team from 2017 btw

[astral lotus]

i remember it launching with a pvp? if i am not mistaking it for something else

[astral lotus]

a very very long time ago

[daring flame]

the people working on the game rn are completely different people

[smoky cedar]

yeah it had PVP and the sprint button was deleted alongside pvp

[tacit gull]

yes, it had an early PVP launch that sucked

[sudden marsh]

with a dev team proving to be this lazy and careless, and incompetent im not shocked.

[astral lotus]

yeah everyone hated it

[smoky cedar]

kinda looked like R6S but swat but search & destroy but you can respawn bullshit

i wasnt in the RoN community at that time but heard of the PVP and saw clips of it

[sudden marsh]

ISTG im convinced the modders basicially lay VOID'S groundwork for them, and do most of what VOID can't

[daring flame]

^

[smoky cedar]

yes

[tacit gull]

Thing is the gunplay looked way more fun and even though it was in a shitty state the PVP looked a lot more technically impressive

[astral lotus]

im looking at videos and it looks like those free chinese unity fps "games" (bitcoin miners) on steam

looked like*

[smoky cedar]

wait am i just fucking realizing this man's name is "local shit dealer"

what the fuck

[daring flame]

you are literally a chipmunk

[astral lotus]

😰

[tacit gull]

literally him

[primal agate]

yea your a fucking chipmuck

[smoky cedar]

i go get water my mouth is drier (however the fuck you spell it) than the sahara

[smoky cedar]

a chipmunk with the memory span of a goldfish (7 seconds)

[daring flame]

dude drinks water from a feeding pipe lmfao

[primal agate]

yeah sounds about right

[primal agate]

why is your name thelocalshitdealer?

[astral lotus]

i have been revisting the game for a week bc im homesick and i got 40 more hours into the game

[hexed granite]

its a cool addition, a step in the right direction.

but im torn between officers being too jaded to show emotion VS they didn't put effort in the briefings to show the emotional brevity of the situation

[astral lotus]

when do u guys think i will stop playing because of lack of replayability

[smoky cedar]

yesterday

[astral lotus]

include mods

[hexed granite]

im curious, what were some pre 1.0 issues that still persist?

[smoky cedar]

today

[daring flame]

quite literally everything

[hexed granite]

very specific

[daring flame]

swat ai getting stuck, ai tracking through walls, ai shooting through walls, superman suspects

[astral lotus]

also i absolutely hate the callouts

[daring flame]

still happens today

[primal agate]

theres mods that fix that

[sudden marsh]

also the optimization got worse, like i remember neon tomb running good.
now it runs like shit everytime i start it up

[primal agate]

i think

[astral lotus]

like holy shit are you giving orders at a massage salon to tell them where your back hurts or are you in an active hostage situation

[daring flame]

and here's the "mods to fix that" comment

[sudden marsh]

why don't the devs fix it themselves? its like no one is holding them accountable

[astral lotus]

its so underwhelming

[daring flame]

why are we relying on other people instead of the DEVELOPERS?

[smoky cedar]

what mods should i get

[primal agate]

I dont fucking know

Im not a damn dev

[astral lotus]

i dont do gameplay altering mods but i cant live without customization mods

[hexed granite]

honestly, managing swat AI got noticeably worse after 1.0. I have an issue here: https://discord.com/channels/310075021882294272/1220228578197901353

they used to be much more responsive pre 1.0

[astral lotus]

sorry

[primal agate]

ayo

cliped

[astral lotus]

yeah sometimes they just flat out ignore me

[hexed granite]

fills in the gaps. I appreciate mods because it fulfills things and adds things in a more hasty manner (that are optional to your preferences) where devs can be too slow or too preoccuptied

[astral lotus]

until i give out orders again

[daring flame]

the problem is that "there's mods to fix that" is so common place now

[astral lotus]

and on some maps (cough cough the red room exit on the port) they just dont listen

[primal agate]

damn

[daring flame]

i agree with what you're saying though

[sudden marsh]

mods should not be an excuse for developers not to fix their own game

if the devs are too slow and incomptent, then it says many things

[hexed granite]

its a double edged sword tbh. i can see why VOID may not want to fix the suspect behavior because it'll just be modded out eventually

which is why i totally advoate for a vanilla difficulty slider like GB, adjusting difficulty and number and behaviors

[astral lotus]

i hate the gb difficulty system

[daring flame]

" i can see why VOID may not want to fix the suspect behavior because it'll just be modded out eventually" that's literally giving them an excuse to be lazy bro

[astral lotus]

choose your enemy

dumbfuck idiot
seal team 6 operator

[hexed granite]

its the situation we're in. im not a shill for VOID, because i was pretty irritated RON was just dead silent for a whole year between ADAM and 1.0

[daring flame]

when 1.0 came out i was expecting something new. when i played it, it felt like i was playing the exact same game afterr a whole year of no updates

but with less content

[astral lotus]

ron cycle

update launches
redownload the game
realise its not all that cool
bugs
download mods
play for a little
uninstall

repeat

[hexed granite]

but uhhhh, they should think of more intuitive options than just:

make difficulty harder for whatever reason
see people ocmplain its too hard
make difficulty easier
see people complain its too easy

And i REALLY hope they don't just revert back to it being hard or whatever. just add a difficulty slider. it'll basically be a subway sandwich where you're the architect of how your experience can be

[astral lotus]

it was the opposite for me imo 1.0 felt like a lot of new things added for me

[night pasture]

Pre 1.0 swat was so shit

[daring flame]

atleast with 1.0 release this gives them the freedom to do whatever they want like pump out "devblogs" and "roadmaps" without being tied to early access

[astral lotus]

its most probably because i just love customization though

[daring flame]

what new things

[astral lotus]

gear customization

[daring flame]

that was already in pre 1.0

[astral lotus]

what

[hexed granite]

to be very fair, the game has a very solid foundation of being a very immersive shooter. gunplay is probably in the top 3, and with the game being UE4 (or 5), it still looks good despite cookie cutter polish smooth graphics

[daring flame]

so im gonna ask again what new things

[astral lotus]

wait are u fr

[daring flame]

yes bro

gear customization has been in the game since release

[hexed granite]

u wanna lay it out or did u already drop the mic with that "fire" statement

[astral lotus]

i dont mean guns

[daring flame]

yeah gear customization

[astral lotus]

i mean gear

there were like different characters with different gear

that u couldnt change

[shy tulip]

Gear customization 1.0 vs pre-1.0 is night and day, there was gear customization, but nothing close to what was in now

Went from preset uniforms to customizing everything down to your gloves

[astral lotus]

yeah

i mean that

[hexed granite]

☝️

[night pasture]

I don’t need to lay it out lmao if you played single player at all goober you would understand it

[smoky cedar]

everything down to your glasses boots and tattoos even

[hexed granite]

fantastic argument

[shy tulip]

Lady Liber-tea

[astral lotus]

ngl althought theyre a little buggier they work way better for me

i cant explain how or why though

[hexed granite]

having a customization system locked through progression and perfection was a decent idea

getting mods to unlock it will soil your replayability and it'll be your fault (just saying in general)

[astral lotus]

i just got the mod right away

[daring flame]

same

[astral lotus]

it was worth it

[hexed granite]

lole

[astral lotus]

i love the gear

[sudden marsh]

its so W

[daring flame]

i downloaded it because i didnt wanna get a certain rank on a mission just so i can wear a longsleeve tshirt

[astral lotus]

i wouldnt download it if i could get past brixley

[hexed granite]

u did play pre 1.0 right?

[astral lotus]

yeah

[hexed granite]

i NEVER had response issues with SWAT AI until now, it's kinda maddening

[astral lotus]

response issues are definitely new

no doubt about that

[hexed granite]

its gotta be related to the auto restrain system

[astral lotus]

as i said theyre buggier but they are also better

[wanton aurora]

Speaking of gear do we have our balaclavas back yet?

[daring flame]

nop

[astral lotus]

i also fucking hate how they said "oh ai will be able to do this and that" but then just, not have them do it

[wanton aurora]

Damn

[hexed granite]

i think you know what Im about to say

[astral lotus]

like getting out of your damn way

[daring flame]

or getting in YOUR way then telling you to move

[wanton aurora]

Haha fair enough

[daring flame]

like bro ?

[astral lotus]

yeah

[hexed granite]

the weirdest thing with the customization menu that i have to put a ticket for is how the cosmetics don't mesh well with certain faces

[astral lotus]

and when they DO get out of your way they just walk into another room that you guys are about to enter while looking right in your eyes as he gets absolutely obliterated by all the enemies inside that room

[hexed granite]

like some of the glasses are floating or clipping through certain faces

[astral lotus]

also gpnvgs are uncannily small like i cant use them because it bugs me out so much when i see it

[daring flame]

how many night maps do we have that make nvgs actually viable?

or maps with dark tunnels

[hexed granite]

its gonna be a trade off game at that point. tunnels will be great for gas or nods, but you have to choose

[astral lotus]

3?

if u count cherrysea

[daring flame]

perrsonally ive never used them because they're not useful

[astral lotus]

i dont either i just have them because they look cool

[wanton aurora]

It's been a few months since I've played but I found a few maps I would transition nvgs on and off a bit

[astral lotus]

i dont care if the stupid swat ai flashes me because i dont have my glasses on the nods stay on

[wanton aurora]

Would be nice to have a torch and an ir laser on the rifles

[astral lotus]

i just run flashlights with an accessible keybind

[hexed granite]

its definitely a good change of pace. i like seeing a night map as it is instead of just fucking white phos

[astral lotus]

THIS.

[sudden marsh]

i find it damn weird, my swat officer is getting lit up while having a shield and he takes like 50+ shots
mean while i get domed in less than 25

[astral lotus]

25?

i take 4

[hexed granite]

yeah, RON is kinda in a weird place in terms of seeking balance

[wanton aurora]

Yeah me too but it's still annoying

[sudden marsh]

they are like deadpool taking shots lol

[hexed granite]

PERSONALLY, i want it to be a sandbox like GB where I adjust difficulty, go in with a mishmash of attachments and cosmetics, do my objective, and getting out

[daring flame]

suspects not dying from a headshot is the most annoying thing in this game

[astral lotus]

i really dislike gb and its sandboxity

it has 0 replayability

[hexed granite]

i was more referring to weapon and device customization

[sudden marsh]

[hexed granite]

this is what i mean though. people play for the sandbox and larp factor, someone plays for the objective and challenge factor. again, weird place to be in

[astral lotus]

i am absolutely a larp nerd dont get me wrong

i have like 50 setups for each gun in gb

but like i never get to use them because i get so bored

[ebon lark]

I've found that one-tapping people without helmets with the Five-Seven with AP rounds is actually a fairly consistent way to get a 1-shot incapacitation hahaha

[astral lotus]

deploy in kill mindless ai get killed by john wick ai get frustrated leave

[hexed granite]

to be fair, the gunplay is GB is not the most riveting

its honestly VERY boring.

[astral lotus]

the sway

[daring flame]

that's the thing, i run ap and shoot a suspect 4 times in the head he's standing there like i'm tickling him with a squirt gun

[astral lotus]

oh god it gives me ptsd

[sudden marsh]

didnt GB Devs straight up remove half the patches? for like a dumb reason

[astral lotus]

what

[hexed granite]

VOID can definitely take a 6 days in fallujah route and create a CQB map that is randomly generated (inb4 god know HOW buggy this can be), but the rng would pay dividends towards replayability.

[smoky cedar]

honestly to me JHP and AP only have one difference
AP - shoot through helmets and vests
JHP - 1 shot people without armor
literally the same shit but armor based

[ebon lark]

Oh. Well, can't say I've had that happen to me, but them getting incapacitation is a pretty common occurrence. I've had people bleed out from knee shots as if I hit their femoral artery, though. No blood squirting in that case, they just drop randomly after I ziptie them.

[astral lotus]

for me ap does like nothing to unarmored parts

i just shoot them and they act like i have a nerf gun

[smoky cedar]

yeah

[shy tulip]

They've said they do not want to do random maps, I can't imagine how much work it would take first of all (SDIF has been in dev for a few years and only had 4 maps on launch,) but randomizing a map doesn't guarantee it's gonna feel new.

Most of SDIF maps have random buildings yeah, but it feels the same each time because it's built around the same core objectives.

[sudden marsh]

ground branch devs (im assuming thats what GB is) removed all Country Flag Patches except their own country

[astral lotus]

i always run jhp and even armored targets get 2 shot at most

[astral lotus]

no i can run mine just fine

i think

[smoky cedar]

AP kills armor JHP kills people, its a stupid but small/big difference

[astral lotus]

wait no no ur right the newest update did do that

[daring flame]

shouldnt be this way

[shy tulip]

I mean the funnest mission in SDIF for me is the pinned marines mission, and the core objective is the same each time because the building cannot be randomized.

[astral lotus]

ooga booga get jhp shoot until die

[wanton aurora]

A map editor would be nice too while we're talking about it

[astral lotus]

Gronk Squadron

[astral lotus]

sdif could have been soo cool with an actual campaign

[hexed granite]

thats totally fair then. but also thinking: RON can feel samey too: come in, control suspects, save civilians, have occasional soft objective

im curious on the (layman) technical explanation on why it isnt feasible. after all, a map addition wouldn't and shouldn't affect the rest of the game

[daring flame]

i think we know the reason

[hexed granite]

but either way, thank god the modding community is here, because ive probably downloaded 15 maps so far just to satiate my RON itch without playing the same vanilla maps.

[shy tulip]

They never said it wasn't possible, they said they do not want to do it, they prefer precrafted maps that allow them to tell themes/stories and create a consistent experience.

I merely mentioned that if you look at SDIF alone, the dev team I think is around the size of current Void, they've spent the past few years making procedurally generated maps and I think the game only has 7 maps right now.

[astral lotus]

i have been waiting on my friend to download the game to play together and i have just finished all the maps in the meanwhile

can you suggest some good map mods that work with ai

[hexed granite]

that's fair. i kinda like the direction the story is heading. with the department poltiics going on and increasing violence, could make some decent story conflict down the line

[hexed granite]

wdym work with AI?

[astral lotus]

ive tried some but the ai just got stuck on certain parts/didnt even work

[tame moat]

anyone wanna play S rank? and be serious

[smoky cedar]

Has like 12

[shy tulip]

I think the biggest issue for SWAT AI is that if they detect a threat they will ignore you, I think it's really just that.

[ebon lark]

Because AP is supposed to be the equivalent of green tips. Rigid steel core, meaning no expansion and it just punches through and overpenetrates their bodies (as you can shoot things through suspects). If they have body armor, you can double tap them in the chest. If they don't have armor, go for pelvic shots. Two or three and they almost always get incapacitated, instead. That's for 5.56 though, the AK and SA-58 and the lower caliber SMGs wouldn't act that way. I pretty much exclusively run AP on primaries, because I like to incapacitate and arrest as much as possible.

[shy tulip]

I know it shipped with 4 at launch and I know they had an update that added 3 more, I haven't seen anymore past that

[hexed granite]

i kinda just go into the map category and sort by most downloaded. Sanctum's deceit and lustful remose are decent, but like most modded maps:

if its too empty, it feels lifeless

if its too crowded, AI gets stuck

[shy tulip]

If you mean RoN then yeah RoN has 18 missions. I'm talking about SDIF

[hexed granite]

its funny because i have this problem: https://discord.com/channels/310075021882294272/1220228578197901353

although this happens at least once every time i boot a map (if not, every other time)

a decent chunk AI doesn't follow orders, despite not being engaged

[astral lotus]

i like how they go into some rooms by themselves when they spot a target like it takes some of the weight off my shoulders but it also sucks when they just ignore my commands

[ebon lark]

To be fair to SDIF, the idea isn't that every map is new. It's more so to make it feel as if you're meant to clear a different district/neighborhood in the same city, Fallujah. And it works pretty good for that goal from what I've seen.

[smoky cedar]

Yeah, and I hate that they just randomly yell at enemies instead of clear the room.

Me: Clearing rooms
Teammate: GET ON THE GROUND!
Teammate 2: DROP THE KNIFE!
Teammate 3: GET DOWN!
Teammate 4: DROP IT!
Also all of my teammates: Walking by the suspect
Me: WHAT THE FUCK? WHO? WHERE?

[daring flame]

sdif had no reason to be released other than a cashgrab on the tactical military shooter genre

[hexed granite]

meh, yeah. I kinda heard about it, got popular for a week, then died off.

It LOOKS good, but I haven't felt much of a push to buy it (bought helldivers 2 instead lol)

[daring flame]

the game peaked at 6636 players

says alot about it

[astral lotus]

i also hate how close to the door the ai gets when i tell them to just stack up

[ebon lark]

I mean, you can say the exact same for Ready Or Not, too. No reason to be released, other than cash in on the SWAT 4 fans from years ago.
Game is a game. People make it, because they had an idea and it might work, might not.

[astral lotus]

they just shoot everybody before i can flashbang the room

[shy tulip]

I know, but it doesn't work for me, and based on player numbers alone it doesn't work for a lot of people. There are other issues, the games graphics hurt my eyes after maybe an hour of play, but that's not the point here.

Not to mention I just don't like their map design philisophy. They advertised a CQB focus with stuff like the interior smoke and echo, but I rarely had any engagements inside unless it was an objective building.

[daring flame]

sdif hasnt had over a thousand players in a year

[smoky cedar]

also i might be stupid but wtf is sdif

[astral lotus]

six days in fallujah

[daring flame]

six days in freddys

[shy tulip]

I like the idea of SDIF and honoring/telling the story of those who fought the real battle, but it needed more time, it shouldn't have been $40 for 4 maps at launch*. They also continue to delay "major things" people ask for like ally ai.

[astral lotus]

arf arf arf arf 🐻

[daring flame]

thats one sick puppy. who has the air rifle

[astral lotus]

1.0 may have been bad, but the streamer chat makes up for it

[ebon lark]

SDIF's whole premise seems like something a larger dev team needs to do. Something that Insurgency's devs might have been able to make, back when they ACTUALLY developed Sandstorm and weren't shafted by the publishers and outsourced to some other studios.

[hexed granite]

i miss mike

[smoky cedar]

its just randomly generated users spamming comments at different intervals

[daring flame]

sdif wouldve been popular 10 years ago

[shy tulip]

cause it was meant to come out 10 years+ ago

it was a 2000s project that got backlash and never completed back then

[daring flame]

its amazing how they killed off insurgency sandstorm

[astral lotus]

"dont shoot the dog" i think that message has deeper meaning

[shy tulip]

Of course they haven't been developing for 20 years and probs went through different teams, but it is for sure a 2000s game still

[astral lotus]

they dont have any pet dogs, HOWEVER

[smoky cedar]

yea

[astral lotus]

his brother does have a furry mask in his room

[smoky cedar]

speaking of dogs they should really add K9s

enemy dogs would be pain in the ass

[astral lotus]

no i couldnt handle my doggo dying

[smoky cedar]

uh

[astral lotus]

i would delete the game

[smoky cedar]

when he gets shot say he didnt die he just got incapacitated

like riley from COD ghosts

[crude prism]

as someone who has more than 1k hours in INS:S, the game was basically gutted the whole time from launch to when the 'plug' finally got pulled

[astral lotus]

what just happened to my message

anyways insurgency sandstorm is garbage

[daring flame]

i think any game that has microtransactions in it is dead from the jump

[shy tulip]

They've said no to K9s, I don't think K9s work for RoN environments without having some kinda extreme HP pool or godmode

[crude prism]

HD2

[astral lotus]

yeah

i dont think k9's would work either

[primal agate]

yea but like K9's make sense for this game

[astral lotus]

how

[shy tulip]

HD2 is an amazing example of how live service works. Haven't paid a dollar above $40 and I'm almost done with the first pass, grinding the second pass.

[astral lotus]

we arent chasing down or finding anyone

i dont think the cops use them as cannon fodder

well maybe the bomb defusal maps i guess

[daring flame]

yeah bro k9s make sense in the game for sure lets send in some dogs against guys with rifles

[primal agate]

if someone wants to make it more real ig

[astral lotus]

but they have vests!

surely the kevlar can stop the rpk

[smoky cedar]

and sharp ass cobra lookin teeth

[primal agate]

lol

[crude prism]

it currently does

[smoky cedar]

i dont think they'd put kevlar on doggos my man more like titanium or ceramic

probably ceramic more likely since you move quicker (unless im confusing that with steel)

[astral lotus]

but my fucking ceramic cant stop 45

😡

[ebon lark]

I think Insurgency Sandstorm was really cool when I bought it for the first time in like, 2020. It didn't have a lot of players, just like the original Insurgency on Source, but servers were full, games were mostly a close match, the performance wasn't utter trash once I installed it on an SSD and Insurgency's gameplay is really fun since their first mod. But I feel like it didn't go off as expected and that's what lead to outsourcing and laying off people from NWI.

[astral lotus]

no steel is the slow one

[daring flame]

wasnt sandstorm early access?

[astral lotus]

are you asking if it is or was

[daring flame]

im asking if it was

[astral lotus]

idk

[shy tulip]

I think so.

[crude prism]

Sandstorm had a big EA period

[shy tulip]

I think I bought it during EA but forgot about it for years

[ebon lark]

Don't remember seein the early access banner on the store page, but I'm willing to bet it was

[daring flame]

oh that explains it

[ebon lark]

Maybe exited EA when I bought it in 2020. Like, 3 or 2 years after release ?

[woeful horizon]

Is there any way or a chance the game will be on xbox

[crude prism]

It was also supposed to release on console and PC at the same time, but was delayed on consoles until like 3 years after lmao

cut campaign

DOA comp modes

[woeful horizon]

Dam

[daring flame]

nope never

[astral lotus]

i would actually enjoy it again if they fixed ai and made a campaign

[crude prism]

Im not talking about RoN. RoN is still up in the air. Might come to consoles in the future

[opaque birch]

stop asking for console support it wont come

[smoky cedar]

not with the shit load of keybinds.

[woeful horizon]

Lock it down shut it

[opaque birch]

im John "Ready" Or Not and its not coming to console

[daring flame]

whats with all these children asking for pc games on console

[smoky cedar]

it'd just become payday 2 on console where half of the game is cut

[astral lotus]

ron shouldnt be on console

[woeful horizon]

Watch its like payday 3

[smoky cedar]

yea

[opaque birch]

hater

[woeful horizon]

You can just put it on console but buy it for 30$

It's easy

[astral lotus]

i remember accidentally booting up arma with my controller plugged and it actually gave me controlley keybinds for menu actions

i shat my pants and closed immidiately

[crude prism]

lmao yeah

[astral lotus]

i do not know if arma 3 has console support but i do not want to know

[opaque birch]

you know what i just talked to the devs we are rolling out a $50 dollar DLC that fixes all the problems but only if you pay 50 dollars

[crude prism]

if you load up arma with a controller plugged in, you have to restart the game to get the controller tooltips to go away

[opaque birch]

also its never going on sale

[astral lotus]

u forgot it adds more problems

[crude prism]

based "paid what you are worth" development choice

[astral lotus]

but mods can fix it

[crude prism]

[woeful horizon]

Ik you can make the binds act like it's payday 3 and 2 even payday 1

[opaque birch]

yes it also adds drift like on the nintendo switch.... on mouse and keyboard... $60 to fix it

[smoky cedar]

payday the heist (payday 1) never came out on consoles

only payday 2 and 3 went out on consoles

[woeful horizon]

Ik

But payday is on mobile

[smoky cedar]

stupid yeah

[primal agate]

...

[smoky cedar]

aint that Payday: Crimewar though

[primal agate]

why

[opaque birch]

no its the goat simulator game

GOAT SIMULATORS REPRESENT BEST GAME EVER

[astral lotus]

man u just made the goat simulator song loop in my head

[smoky cedar]

why is there actually a goat simulator on the app store

[astral lotus]

i have never played the pc version

[smoky cedar]

i played it on xbox

[astral lotus]

and the controls are so shit on mobile it took me so long to actually play and i have been exposed to that damned "music" for far too long

its just some notes looping forever and its forever engraved in a part of my brain

i think i played and completed every single goat simulator game

[opaque birch]

theres like 6 versions of it bro

[astral lotus]

favourite is the one on space

[ebon lark]

Never understood the appeal of the goat simulator games

[astral lotus]

would recommend 10/10

[astral lotus]

dumb goat fly lick haha

now you understand

[smoky cedar]

the whole point of goat simulator is just comedy

[woeful horizon]

You can just put Ron in console it's basically like the payday game with shouting and cuffing and the social reel

[astral lotus]

bad comedy too

you couldnt get me to play it on gunpoint today

[ebon lark]

I guess it's too random for me. Exception to the bunch, that game blew up with Pewdiepie and Markiplier

[astral lotus]

i havent touched that shit in like 6 years atleast

[smoky cedar]

oh yeah make everything one keybind

A - Yell
A (Hold) - Interact
X - ???
Y - ???
B - ???

[astral lotus]

X for physically assaulting your swat ai for doing something bad

Y and B for chemlights

[woeful horizon]

OR you can just make it compatible with controller because it's basically payday 3
Because t payday 3 has theses things
Shout
Cuff/zip tie someone
And social reel

[woeful horizon]

It's going to be the same key binds for controller as in payday 3 for xbox

Hey I got an idea a funny one

[shy tulip]

[woeful horizon]

You can yell at your teammates when they shoot a civilian
Example
Bob shoots a civilian
And Tim says/yells to Bob with this dialog
Tim"HEY WATCH YOUR DAM FIRE"
2nd line "WHAT THE HELL DUDE"
3rd line "WHATS WRONG WITH YOU"

[opaque birch]

Ayo Dj! Put On That Goat Simulator (Official Sound Track)!

[astral lotus]

dedew dedew dede dededeew

[woeful horizon]

It used to be free but there's a demo now

[astral lotus]

no shot

they banned our farming equipment

[opaque birch]

Bro Imma Kill You Bro

[astral lotus]

they are taking away the means of production from the hands of the working class

we must make a farmers uprising

[opaque birch]

Communism Is When Thing I Dont Like

[stoic vortex]

Imagine being a leader of a foreign terrorist cell and shoot up a nightclub, get shot and arrested by a SWAT team. And while in the hospital recovering, your other friends break in and shoot up that hospital to rescue you, only to get yourself shot by the very same SWAT Team that stopped you in the nightclub.

[opaque birch]

ggez another dub for non terrorists

[astral lotus]

this is why i kill him

avoid the hospital entirely in lore

im the good guy

[ebon lark]

Not like that's easy to avoid in the first place, guy is the definition of blending in

[stoic vortex]

Next up, send qadamah in prison. Have The Hand break in the prison to rescue him. Get D Platoon to deal with the situation and have Qadamah shot and arrested again for the 3rd time

[astral lotus]

turn ready or not into a looney tunes series where this guy keeps being arrested by swat and rescued by terrorists

[ebon lark]

Qadamah will literally turn into the Ready Or Not version of the Joker

[astral lotus]

no make it more like tom and jerry

[ebon lark]

Hey, if you think about it, Ready Or Not and Los Suenos are pretty similar to Batman and Gotham

[opaque birch]

🗣️ 🗣️ Hire Fans 🗣️ 🗣️

[sudden marsh]

Judge is literally batman

[stoic vortex]

he probably be like "please just kill me"

[astral lotus]

me=judge=batman

it all makes sense

[ebon lark]

Instead of Batman, you have the LSPD D-Platoon and instead of Gotham with the supervillains, you have a decrepit shithole collapsing into a pile of trash and brutally high crime rates of all types of crime

[astral lotus]

holy shit ready or not lore is batman

ready or not is batman if bruce wayne never became orphaned

[stoic vortex]

My ass is not Batman 😭

[ebon lark]

Like Batman, D-Platoon always "saves the day", but they're never enough to stop the cycle of criminals in Los Suenos, so in the end it's all just a back and forth dance

[opaque birch]

guys who is batman i only know man

[astral lotus]

fuck you

😢

not the jonkler

[opaque birch]

Man is like Ham but Or not is like Ham but isntead of Jonkler we have ready

[ebon lark]

Some mutant between a weird mammal cosplaying a bird and then some buff gymbro with money or something, idk

[stoic vortex]

I keep killing the suspects

[astral lotus]

ur on the right path

[stoic vortex]

i dont think im batman

[astral lotus]

batman takes great pleasure from watching his wife be fiddled in the bedroom by other men

[opaque birch]

imma touch you bot

[ebon lark]

And just like that, #👮ron-discussion is no longer about Ready Or Not or a discussion at all, really

[opaque birch]

this bot better stop censoring The People^tm or imma get a white van filled with my bros and we gon do some gang stuff on him

[stoic vortex]

My first run on valley of dolls, I accidentally killed amos while shooting at his guards

[astral lotus]

based

[opaque birch]

Based As Fuck^tm

[astral lotus]

justice system would get him out anyway

just make sure he suffers

[stoic vortex]

A stray 5.56 bullet wallbanged him and hit his head

[opaque birch]

Cringe As Fuck^tm

[opaque birch]

Based As Fuck^tm bullet

[astral lotus]

a "stray" 5.56 bullet "wallbanged" him and hit his head

write that in the report

[stoic vortex]

God guided my bullet

[astral lotus]

yeah we arrested him but he went on to shoot himself in the back of the head 5 times while handcuffed then tied a brick to his leg and jumped into the pool

nothing we could do

[stoic vortex]

stuff him in the barrel and left it with the others

[astral lotus]

also geniune lore question does anyone know why that one person insists we close the door on the port mission

[smoky cedar]

thats FISA doing ilegall deals

[ebon lark]

"Upon entering the kitchen area on the first floor, we engaged two hostiles from the Bolton security detail and after opening fire, a malfunction in my Mk18 happened, locking the gun in full-auto fire and rapidly discharging all 30 shots into prime suspect Amos Voll and only stopped once it was completely empty."

[stoic vortex]

what container?

[smoky cedar]

Red door

[astral lotus]

with who

[stoic vortex]

What red door?

[opaque birch]

Damn Feds. I Fucking Hate Federal Agents. Feds My Opps

[smoky cedar]

the ppl at port

[astral lotus]

damn fisa trafficking humans?

[stoic vortex]

FISA told me that the container didnt exist

[opaque birch]

bro you getting touched bro

[astral lotus]

they wouldnt even be under suspicion if he didnt say anything

[opaque birch]

I CANT SAY THE B WORD BRO

[astral lotus]

its not like judge didnt know that human trafficking was going on

[frail quartz]

I'm not a big fan of the government
(30 ON 30)
I'm not a big fan of the government
(30 ON 30)

[astral lotus]

gov'n'mn't

[opaque birch]

I Hate The Federal Government (what? Slatt!)
I Hate Federal Agents (Playboi)
Abolish The Cia And Fbi (Slatt)

Playboi Carti If He Was A Good Rapper

[frail quartz]

It's such a tragedy that you were found dead tomorrow morning with two self-inflicted gunshot wounds to the head.

[stoic vortex]

What is up with all these Ex-USIA Agents being schizo and having D-platoon to deal with em?

[opaque birch]

and also hanged and stabbed in the stomach and hammered and also with 5 shots to the back

[ebon lark]

Well, that was only Gerard in A Lethal Obsession

[frail quartz]

IKR? We really need to invest more into mental health resources to prevent situations like this from happening.

[stoic vortex]

Elain Raskin as well from Carriers of the vibe

[stone bay]

damn its a shame he fell off the stairs accidentally with two gunshot wounds in the back of the head

[stoic vortex]

vine*

[opaque birch]

True!

[ebon lark]

Second guy was just some cartel boy inside FISA, running the gun distribution in that postal warehouse

[opaque birch]

Carriers Of The Vibe A Hard Ass Nam3 Br0. Im Naming My Next Album That. Slatt My Slim3! *+🦋

[astral lotus]

also the funniest thing in ready or not is while i was arresting some guy outside of the postal service some fisa agent suddenly started beating the shit out of me and surrendered as soon as i turned around

i didnt even know fisa was the bad guy until that happened

[opaque birch]

Collab With Lil Xan WIP Rn... Dont Tell Nobody I Said That 🤫

[ebon lark]

Somehow you incapacitated him, he came to later because you didn't tie him up and his gun was packed so he just chased you down barehanded

AI moment

[opaque birch]

lowkey they fixed the ai imo

[astral lotus]

lmao

[astral lotus]

i agree

[stoic vortex]

lol

[stone bay]

Lethal obsession becomes a funny mission when the AI accidentally trip their own traps

[stoic vortex]

dude i heard an explosion while walking to the back door

was like "wtf did my ai kill themselves?"

[opaque birch]

lethal obsession becomes a mission when i get one tapped and exploded and touched by the ai all at once

[astral lotus]

i literally do a james bond stealth run with a taser on that mission

[opaque birch]

imma have to go to the police and show them where the ai touched me on the doll after i play that mission

[ebon lark]

I also find it funny that when you breach a door with C2 and there's suspects close by but far enough to where they don't die, they all ragdoll and the game gives you "report dead", but they always rise up after 2-3 seconds. So like... does Judge see them on thee floor and is like "Yeah, these motherfuckers are definitely dead" and then just gets proven wrong when they get up

[astral lotus]

infiltrate from the back door and pray to god they dont show up behind you

[astral lotus]

that happens with gunshots too

i was so confused

i went in to arrest the mother fucker and as soon as i put the cuffs on him he just woke up

[stoic vortex]

Heard the voice recording for Carriers of the Vine. Had no clue what it was about

[ebon lark]

Yeah, but rarely and they fake their deaths. But they can't really fake their death from a concussive blast, nobody will just decide in a split second to play dead after an explosive goes off and gets their life flash before their eyes.

[stone bay]

i wedged every single doors (Including the second floor rooftop doors) on mindjot data center because i didn't wanna get flanked, and i get called insane

society

[astral lotus]

i thought u just got incapacitated when they faked

thats a fun thing to know

never leaving anyone uncuffed now

[astral lotus]

i do this

[opaque birch]

nah when they fake it gives you a dead prompt

[astral lotus]

i am guilty for these crimes

[opaque birch]

if they dont got no pool of blood on their corpse theyre faking

[stoic vortex]

they either faking or incapped

[astral lotus]

so just triple tap all the dead bodies

👍

[stone bay]

against RoE

[astral lotus]

against what

womp womp

[stoic vortex]

I always double tap by instinct

[astral lotus]

roe is against me

[ebon lark]

They definitely get knocked out like from a punch or something, so it's very short blackout, but the game for some reason doesn't give you that they're incapacitated in the case they're actually knocked out for good. But the game says "report dead" and they rise back up super quickly, so my guess is that Judge blows the door up, sees people on the ground and is like "Yeah, they're done" without confirmation. Which I think is kinda funny, since Judge is... Judge. Bossman SWAT Bro

[stoic vortex]

He is the law

[astral lotus]

judge? from blood meridian?

[opaque birch]

Womp Womp Mf! This Is Ready Or Not We Go Wild In This MF Take Your Sensitive Ass Back To 6 Days!

[astral lotus]

holy plot twist

[stone bay]

too bad, i'm doing S-rank runs right now for the Medal of Valor achievement

[astral lotus]

i see no reason in doing s ranks but i have already accepted that i will go through the pain only because the replayability will end and i will have nothing else to do

[ebon lark]

I have an easier time clearing Ides of March, than Sinuous Trail. These motherfuckers are tough as hell. I completely understand wedging everything there

[frail quartz]

Hey, do you guys know how that one movie "Late Night with the Devil" got absolutely panned by audiences for using ai generated art for some of its transitions?

[astral lotus]

like you just look so funny with the pepper guns

[frail quartz]

Do you think this is meant as a message for us?

[astral lotus]

imagine the police department setting up elaborate plans to get rid of this child trafficking ring

and you get sent out with a chinese made nerf gun

[frail quartz]

Sounds like the military to me

[astral lotus]

like you are a trooper responding to a 911 call

shots get fired you get wounded you call for backup

you see the bearcat arrive with the swat

and they approach you with beanbag

[stone bay]

i forgot to mention i'm also doing an ironman no deaths run alongside the S runs, and i'm at that mexican postal service building next

[ebon lark]

The pepperguns are literally unusable. I dump half a mag into a guy's face, he turns around and just stumbles like a drunk into the open and then starts blindfiring me once the spice runs its course. Fucking wack.

[stone bay]

i feel like this is where im gonna die

[astral lotus]

holy ancient chinese torture method

[frail quartz]

You're just jealous of their pure souls compared to yours

[stone bay]

i use CS gas and flashbangs instead, tasers and peppers are just optional to use

[astral lotus]

s rank loadouts is wat duh liburuls want to dew to aur cauntreeh's po-lees offisuhs

[ebon lark]

Clear the store, then wedge the 3 doors into that long storage room between the backroom of the store and the warehouse, wedge the store's glass door and go and clear the parking area behind the warehouse. If you want to, you can also go and clear the little staff building right of the store and wedge that one door on the warehouse and then nobody will be able to leave the warehouse after you clear the parking on the other side

[astral lotus]

da second amendmunt calls for all aur SWAT to have .50 cal machine guns

[ebon lark]

And then you just slowly clear it in-between the conveyors

[opaque birch]

ok bro what the FUCK

[astral lotus]

gobbles america

[opaque birch]

this biatch ayss bawt juhst deleted ma messuhge

[astral lotus]

liberal sissy bot

[frail quartz]

Gud dham liberals tryna force they/their gluten-free "less-lethal" "firearms" onto our protecturs 😤 😡

[opaque birch]

yall muhfuckas dont believe me when ah sey tha amma tuch this bawt

[frail quartz]

I can't even tell what we're saying anymore

[stone bay]

i kind of figured i'm gonna have to go back to the wedge method, some areas are just too large for gas, and flashbangs will have to be thrown more accurately so i have to utilize and create one pathway in and out

[opaque birch]

bawt yous a bih imma kil you

[astral lotus]

gud dham liburuls tryin to take awr mission mode selector away 😡 😢

[frail quartz]

WRONG! I killa you with a brick

[astral lotus]

cinderblock!

[opaque birch]

WRONG! I dodge! librul

[astral lotus]

🧱

[frail quartz]

Biden's America 😡 😤

[frail quartz]

Fuck I didn't have a backup plan

[astral lotus]

los suenos is based on what america would look like if biden won in 2020

wait

fuck

[opaque birch]

GYATT dayum libruls.. tryna take away my .40 cawl! just cuhz i kiwled 4 peepuhl!

[ebon lark]

Absolutely. I tried clearing it with gas with a friend and a mod that adds more suspects (23 on that mission) and gas is absolutely useless. You gotta funnel them in one area and just sweep the conveyors and then the rest is just in that FISA office and the offices up above.

[frail quartz]

What, you didn't hop to a parallel dimension like we did?

[astral lotus]

waduyumeen my wife taykes da kids??

[opaque birch]

this is a playn fruhm the LIBRULS to tra an mayk ma CHILDREN HOMOS!

ready or not discussion more like redneck issues discussion

[astral lotus]

homos sapiens or whatever them skittles are adding next...

us americans we arent homos we are true neandrathals

[stone bay]

2 AI's will hold cover while 2 more comes with me and clear every room and corner, once thats done we take one step forward and repeat the whole process again till the whole map is complete

[astral lotus]

gobbles

[stone bay]

it takes an awful amount of time but is by far the safest method i have rn

[astral lotus]

give all ai 20 flashbang

full armor

"door flash and clear"

[stone bay]

doing a vanilla ironman run

[astral lotus]

may god help you

[opaque birch]

MY SOAWN juhst downe TOWD ME we ar HOMO saypyens! I AINT NO DAYUM HOMO! IM AN AMEYRICUN GYATTDAYUMIT! IM TAYKIN HYUM OUT OF THAT DAYUM LIBRUL SKEWL HE GOWS TO!

[ebon lark]

Once you clear the staff area, store and parking and you wedge all the doors connecting the warehouse to the other areas, you can put one team towards the parking area and slowly tell them to push up the more open area while you have the other team follow you through the conveyors. A little risky for the first team, but it'll prevent you crossfires in-between the whole bunch of props and shit.

Do you lose the S rank if officers die ?

[opaque birch]

yeah cuz all officers alive is an objective

[stone bay]

did i forgot to mention that im doing a no casualty ironman run or i just have dementia

[opaque birch]

thats what iron man is

a no casualty run

[stone bay]

i meant like dead AI officers

[opaque birch]

yeah

[ebon lark]

Oh, I haven't done Commander mode at all, so I didn't know. Then don't do that. Just put them somewhere to watch in that case.

You got it planned out.

[stone bay]

as long as there's only one way in our out, the AI does the job mostly

its just that the AI sucks when they get flanked

they take more than 1 whole second or more to turn, face and start shooting

but they're like john wick when they see even just 1 pixel of a suspect

[ebon lark]

Then it's best if you put them around the first dock leading to the outdoor parking, because the one further back would be clear since you enter from there.

Gotta find them cover, though.

[opaque birch]

actual ron discussion? hell nah i havent played ron in like 5 years im out

[misty island]

You may use a guide in Steam for Ironman.

[craggy yew]

Suspects can’t shoot back if they lose their arm to buckshot

[ionic gale]

helo

[opaque birch]

Where Is Or Not Reaction

[silk junco]

i eated it

[opaque birch]

please throw it up.. i need it back. thx

[silk junco]

no can do

[opaque birch]

dayum... i really needed that.

or not reaction.

[ebon lark]

And they also can't live through the blood loss, so...

[grim hound]

Is there any mods that can increase our slot but not crashing in multiplayer?

I use more ammo mod but it's outdated, doesn't works. There is this commonly use slot mod, gunfighter mod I think that can increase slot to 30, 50, or 99. but it crashes in co-op.

[robust gull]

Just got my first s rank feelin good

[stable kernel]

Gunfighter itself does not cause crashes in multiplayer, even if the host does not have it. You are having a different issue with another mod if you are crashing.

[grim hound]

I have check it one by one

[stable kernel]

Are you able to swap weapons on the loadout screen?

[grim hound]

Yes. I can.

The problem is I'm not the one who is crashing

the mod called 'more slot patch for gunfighter user who need it'.

It can works fine in single player but in pub I always lost connection to host during pre-game loading.

and I mostly play with my friend. He crashes everytime after loading. But once I remove that mod. We can go in, no issue.

[stable kernel]

Are you hosting

[grim hound]

We tried both ways, and still the same issue.

I can enter the map just fine. But he always crash. Only if I have that mod. He doesn't have any mod.

Does it need both of us to have that mod?

[stable kernel]

Are you refering to gunfighter or the slot patch for gunfighter

[grim hound]

my bad not addressing it corretly. it's slot patch for gunfighter.

[onyx abyss]

wtf did they do to the game with the recent update runs worse then alpha tf

[gloomy isle]

Wait, just iron man to completion or iron man no losses?

[stable kernel]

I would assume that because the mod has not been updated for hotfix 3 when they changed a lot of the loadout files that it no longer works entirely as expected. Both of you running the mod should fix it I think

You really only need more than 25 slots if you are doing a zombie mod tbh

[grim hound]

We don't play zombie mod. We play normal but since both of us are noob and we only play duo. We want more leeway on nades and equipment slot. Like more bang and more wench.

[feral girder]

No mercy, gunfighter, and extra suspects. Trying to play semi tactical https://discord.com/channels/310075021882294272/922316043714719764

[brave jewel]

what happened to RON? havent played since October and it just seems broken since the 1.0 update. For example I can't use a shield, half of my weapons don't have pictures associated in the loadout screen, and I cant wear armor?

is this normal?

[grim hound]

do you use mod before? There are so many mods that aren't working anymore since 1.0 update. There's this mod called more nades and more ammo that I used before, rn if I use those mods, my armor in loadout section is just blank white screen and I can't use any armor

[feral girder]

most mods dont work after 1.0 you need to find updated mods

[stable kernel]

Sounds like you have multiple broken mods. Follow the instructions in #❓modding-faq-archive to uninstall them, and start by unsubscribing from mod.io subscription mods

[brave jewel]

now that you mention it I do have more nades and ammo installed

I just deleted all of my mods (I have back ups)

it's assame because there were 200

[brave jewel]

I haven't used mod.io

I just remember it being broken for a while

[stable kernel]

It is still broken

[grim hound]

I spent like 1 hour or so checking it 1 by one which one still works, which one isn't. Is there more efficient method?

[brave jewel]

is there any more nades/ammo mods that work with 1.0?

[grim hound]

do you mind give me notice when you got one? I need one as well.

[stable kernel]

Give me a couple minutes I'll see what I can do

[brave jewel]

if I find one...

[bright shale]

I bet all of those could be mapped by making it so you hold 2 different buttons at the same time or adding an action wheel for Xbox or something
(Yes I know this is 20 hours later, don't care)

[mild fox]

Guys how do I add voice mod?

I got the file downloaded alr

[languid tangle]

Gotta go into your game files, find the VO files, backup whatever you plan to replace, then drop in your modded files

[stable kernel]

@grim hound https://www.nexusmods.com/readyornot/mods/3868 I just uploaded this since I noticed we do not have an updated mod that only changes slot counts (Gunfighter basic also includes other changes).

[mild fox]

o

so its not under paks right

[languid tangle]

The file path should look something like this but you can go to the properties on the RoNs steam page and find click "browse local files"
...SteamLibrary\steamapps\common\Ready Or Not\ReadyOrNot\Content\VO

The VO folder is next to the paks folder under "Content"

[mild fox]

ohh

then i must manuelly replace the VO?

[languid tangle]

Yea, backup the OG files if you want to add them back easy then drop your files in place of whatever you removed. Just make sure everything, including the folder holding all the ogg files, has all the same names as whatever is being replaced

[mild fox]

damn thats gg take awhile

[brave jewel]

NICE THANK YOU

absolute clutch

[languid tangle]

If the ogg files are slow as shit you can try uninstalling "Web media extensions" in your system settings. Its the codec which reads ogg files for windows but its really slow

Should make them move/delete much faster but now you cant preview them outside the game without reinstalling web media extensions

[mild fox]

aite

[grim hound]

thx so much.

All map clearable with just duo and limited nades / wench? For example we tried to play Sins of the Father but we have 4 wench and 8 bangs in total.

How hard it is?

[stable kernel]

All maps are clearable solo with only bullets, so yes you should be fine if you are familiar with the game

[lost inlet]

How so?

[jaunty pebble]

I just blasted a suspect with a shotgun to the face and he looked me in the eyes for a good 5 seconds before ragdolling

[lost inlet]

Blud typed a whole paragraph but still i agree wholeheartedly

[shy tulip]

I think RoN is best described as realistic as playable. No one wants to play a simulator level swat call, no one wants to sit around for 8 hours in-game. I think RoNs charm is telling law enforcement themed stories while also having an exaggerated enough formula to have fun combat. I don't think it would be the same or anywhere as successful if they had gone for 18 small and "grounded" levels.

Even swat 4 ended with you assaulting a medical facility from terrorists. SWAT 3 had you stop a nuke.

[astral lotus]

i just wish we had more than 4 guys

[shy tulip]

So do the hell divers fighting it out on Mavelon Creek

[lost inlet]

really?

[wispy igloo]

why'd VOID remove the ability to spin your character around and check your gun out in customizations 😭

[ebon lark]

Do you think Amos Voll was always such a fucked up creep or do you think stuff started with his wife's illness or passing ? Was he always a porn actor and producer or did it start with his marriage to Daniella after his wife's passing ?

[lost inlet]

what made you think his wife dead?

[ebon lark]

The Valley of the Dolls' map ? There's pictures of Janie's mom in her room, one of which shows her on a hospital bed and then a big photograph of her that Amos gave to Janie as an 18th birthday present. And also a letter her mom wrote for Amos to give Janie on her 18th birthday, post-mortem.

[lost inlet]

im pretty sure the map have an npc that can push you death, think thats her or she could be anus voll second wife

[ebon lark]

That's Daniella Voll. She's Janie's stepmom, who Amos met in the porn industry and married after his wife passed. It's why Janie and her are on such bad terms. There's a note written by Daniella, basically yelling at Janie to not touch the statues around the house or she'll "tell Daddy".

But yeah, the blonde woman in the white dress you find on the third floor lobby or bathroom is Daniella Voll.

[lost inlet]

maybe thats why the creepy basement exist its cause he was so obsessed with his wife passing and he started seeing his wife through janie

dont remember how janie's face look like and idk if the picture in basement match with her or not

can anyone here confirm that?

[ebon lark]

Damn, bot didn't like it

Man, it's hard to talk about the themes in the game and keep the bot happy at the same time

[ebon lark]

The collage on the walls is just one of the faces in the pictures he's printing (supposedly just a minor from Brixley), but the collage itself, canon-wise, is supposed to be Janey. The text confirms it.

Yup. That's what I mean. You gotta take it easy with the terminology. Bot doesn't like it.