👮ron-discussion

[sudden marsh]

if that were true, then how i spend my time shouldn't have been even a problem.

[slender adder]

talking is one thing being genuinely annoying is another

[muted star]

It ain't

[summer copper]

it's more like that you're pissing everybody off with your incessant complaining

[sudden marsh]

you've managed to achieve both somehow, if i have

[summer copper]

that's real rich coming from you, pal

[slender adder]

you are kind of alone on that one

[stone stump]

the more annoying people the better, at least you won't be alone (if you ever happen to become annoying)

[slender adder]

I mean

I haven't been here for a while what grudges do you have with me for you to say that

[stone stump]

i didn't mean you're being annoying, sorry

[slender adder]

ah cool np

[sudden marsh]

even if i was the annoying one, you came in chat and had not provided anything worth contributing besides
"you should log off" and classics like "you are getting jumped"

[slender adder]

you really should log off

[sudden marsh]

atleast these people had something worth thinking about

[slender adder]

it is nice to be productive

[summer copper]

and yet we all agree with him

[sudden marsh]

good for whoever is "we all" but collective agreement doesn't change a thing for me.

[slender adder]

bro it is okay

let it go

[summer copper]

please, for your own sake

[slender adder]

the game is getting updates in the future to iron things out

[stone stump]

people in 2077: ron is almost fixed, we can finally play it!

[sudden marsh]

cool, im happy. but it shouldnt have taken this long to add proper optimization fixes
for shaders they added, atleast proper shader compilation wouldlve been nice before a "full release"
and "price change"

[summer copper]

there are 50 people working on the game. doubt more than 20 are even coding it. games have bugs. they are working on ironing the bugs out.

[slender adder]

yeah I will let void know

John Void will appreciate your feedback

[summer copper]

im sure that void listen to and care about what you think individually but youd do more with a steam review than complaining in random discord chats to random people

[sudden marsh]

with the amount of money they earn from this game they can probably hire even more.
its the only mainstream tactical swat shooter games youtubers talk about.

unless they pay them google salaries maybe not

[summer copper]

nobody knows how much money they have. nobody knows if they can or even want to hire more people

[night pasture]

you can't just hire more people lol all that shit takes time and a lot of it, there's a pretty big process to it

[stone stump]

funfact: more people doesn't mean faster

[native rune]

Elder scrolls 6:

[summer copper]

gta 6:

"why dont rockstar just hire more people so they can make the game faster"

[sudden marsh]

they should, but they have the priorities fucked up. the more the better tho does make a impact.

[stone stump]

so there is a bigger chance of a leak*

[summer copper]

thats not a quote that youre supposed to agree with

[sudden marsh]

thats why i mentioned priorities tho

organization of the team is in that category

rockstar can claim "we don't have the resources" i wouldn't be shocked one day

[stone stump]

i think they're doing pretty well, one game a decade per studio

[summer copper]

lol people waited 10 years for GTAVI and i bet they complained less than people in this server do

[night pasture]

Bro doesn't understand any amount of business management

[sudden marsh]

they complain about modders, the subscriptions, the oppressor MKII tho in V.

[sudden marsh]

bro doesn't understand what priorities are

[summer copper]

thats GTAV

im talking about GTAVI

[muted star]

what yall are yapping about at this point

[summer copper]

straight up wtf are we yapping about

[stone stump]

ron started like 8 years ago

[sudden marsh]

in 6 they complained about the release date i think lol and that 'itll flop'

[sudden marsh]

the thing is, didnt rockstar release atleast 1 game every year? theres a timeline based on it

[night pasture]

sure

[stone stump]

game development is way more complex now, you know?

[summer copper]

so? doesnt mean the game they envisioned 8 years ago is the game they have now

projects shift in scope

[sudden marsh]

it mean it did slow down after Max Payne 3 and GTA 5 so ig

[stone stump]

not really

gta 4 - gta 5 and gta 5 - rdr2 were both 5 years apart

[acoustic raptor]

Out of your goddamn mind for this take. I’m on a 4090 and 12900K and this game is a typical UE4 shader compilation stutter fest

[stone stump]

im on a 3060 and 5800x3d and this game is as smooth as it gets, so what's your point?

[summer copper]

we already talked about this

[acoustic raptor]

Maybe you should refrain from speaking on performance issues then, you’re likely not experiencing anything smoothly

[stone stump]

why is that?

[acoustic raptor]

Your comment says it all man. RoN… smooth? Totally disconnected from reality

[sudden marsh]

but if we talk about rockstar titles. then they released a game once a year

[warm delta]

Does anyone have the danish AKS swat team updated version?

[muted star]

But it runs smooth on some machines

And worse on others

[stone stump]

20 years ago

[acoustic raptor]

No it doesn’t because shader compilation stutter isn’t fixed with hardware

[muted star]

It's the stuttering at the start of the level?

[sudden marsh]

then that isn't good lol, we upgrade to run in higher frames not lesser frames

[muted star]

skill issue

[acoustic raptor]

It’s fixed by devs precompiling shaders like everyone else who is competent at making games on UE4

[stone stump]

if that's so, why most modern games have shader compilation stutters?

[summer copper]

grrr my frames drop at the start of the level for 2 seconds, game is so fucking shit

[sudden marsh]

CS2 precompiles shaders before you ever get in, let alone Dead island 2 does too

why can't RoN take the same route

[acoustic raptor]

All the games worth playing these days do pre compile shaders

[muted star]

Terraria?

[summer copper]

do you determine whether a game is good based on if it does one specific thing

[acoustic raptor]

No idea about Terraria but that game likely isn’t dealing with complex shaders used for photorealistic rendering

[sudden marsh]

if it has bad optimization, and or is a technical mess. then thats not good at all lol. itll affect
anyones game experience if you had to deal with that

[acoustic raptor]

No but I always determine if a game is in a state that I’ll enjoy based on if the visual fluidity is acceptable

[stone stump]

precompiled shaders don't necessarily solve shader compilation stutters btw

[sudden marsh]

Shader comp always consists of straight stutters, thats not even true at all

[acoustic raptor]

Yeah but with a dev team proving to be this lazy it’s the most feasible solution and mind blowing that it hasn’t been implemented yet

They ran off with millions on this little AA project and don’t give a fuck about doing the bare minimum

[summer copper]

lol you just here to hate mindlessly

[acoustic raptor]

I’m here to hate very mindfully

Been following this game for years. Had a lot of hope for it. Now things are starting to sour

[stone stump]

you only need to play a map once to get rid of shader compilation stutters and it's not like gpu drivers update daily. it's not that big of a deal lmao

[summer copper]

"very mindfully" with zero respect

[sudden marsh]

you dont have to give 100% respect just to critcize lol

[urban walrus]

They haven't used the other animations outside the death animations yet (look at the 1.0 patchnote)

[acoustic raptor]

I don’t need to respect anything. I paid money for a finished product.

[sudden marsh]

if you wanna be direct and be valid, then its an option

[summer copper]

theres a difference between being direct and accusing the devs of "running away with millions" and not "[giving] a fuck about doing the bare minimum"

[urban walrus]

Animations from the cinematic trailer is just for it

[stone stump]

is that finished product with us?

[acoustic raptor]

If running around in maps stuttering is your type of gig, all power to you. I’d rather boot up a game and have fluidity throughout

[vocal night]

its supposed to be with us

its not unfortunately

[sudden marsh]

its finished if people like a subpar gaming experience

[summer copper]

its on par. its just not to your standard

[acoustic raptor]

It’s out of Early Access, sold incredibly well, all excuses are out the window

[summer copper]

you proved that when you refunded the game and got your money back

[muted star]

Slapping 1.0 on a product in this state doesn't mean much

[sudden marsh]

right but i can still criticize based off my observations thought, it doesn't invalidate anything

[stone stump]

a lot of people liked elden ring, so i guess...

[acoustic raptor]

It doesn’t mean much, that’s a fact. But it should

[sudden marsh]

it means they can raise the price, all while marketing it as "we arent that buggy but buy us"

[muted star]

Bugless experience on release is rare these days

[summer copper]

bugless experience at all these days is rare

[muted star]

Not saying it's good ofc

[vocal night]

that doesnt excuse ready or nots current state

[muted star]

ye

[sudden marsh]

but there are games with little bugs tho

[acoustic raptor]

Just because it’s rare doesn’t mean I accept it though. And there’s a lot of bugs that don’t ruin experiences nearly as much as a lack of visual fluidity

[muted star]

Yeah you don't have to

[summer copper]

im assuming you mean AAA studio games that have already been out for years, and solo indie projects with a tiny scope

[sudden marsh]

there are some Double AA games that have the criteria tho

[stone stump]

takes like 5 seconds for stutters to go away and it's like a one time experience

[halcyon otter]

• for you

[muted star]

There are few titles like that tbh

[summer copper]

double AA lol, anyway

what AA games specifically

[stone stump]

baldur's gate 3 was pretty bug free (but we don't talk about act 3) iirc

[muted star]

Do helldivers count?

[acoustic raptor]

Takes way more than 5 seconds and idk about you but I get graphics drivers several times a month. How I'm supposed to feel about a game that stutters every time I turn it on

Not good

I'll tell you that

[muted star]

Ngl I don't really care if a game stutters for a few sec on start

[summer copper]

absolutely does not take more than 5 seconds lol

[sudden marsh]

but were referring to more than just the start, which is the actual case

[muted star]

Didn't really bother me but would be good if it wasn't a thing

[acoustic raptor]

Absolutley takes more than 5 seconds and there are unique shaders on different levels so this whole argument of 5 seconds is complete fabrication

[stone stump]

2 times a month worst case scenario

[night pasture]

lmao i just did a big spin at the start of each level and done

[sudden marsh]

great now tell us about the stutters and or micro stutters dude

[night pasture]

None you goober

[acoustic raptor]

If that's you guyses thing, signing on and dealing with a bunch of stutter, more power to you. I like games that start smooth and end smooth. If the first thing I'm greeted with in a game is stutter, every single time I turn it on... I'm good

[muted star]

Well good for you I guess

[summer copper]

that's great to hear

[muted star]

I ain't gonna turn a good game down cause of few stutters (not talking just RON)

[halcyon otter]

crazy how people are against you for wanting the game to run well

[sudden marsh]

well RoN def has more than "just a few"

[stone stump]

runs pretty well for me

[sudden marsh]

its the outcome of low expectations or people not understanding fluidity

[umbral oar]

this community is weird

[acoustic raptor]

Right bro...PC gaming is a sad state of affairs these days

[halcyon otter]

i dont care? it doesnt for most people lol why would i care about you

[muted star]

If it happens for you then yeah, hope they will fix this stuff. I don't experiance much of it

[ruby talon]

they Need to mocap more gun drawing animations like maybe some suspects will draw from a 3 oclock position and some from a back waistband position hell maybe even have one pull a gun from an ankle holster or jacket but some other type of animations to break up the obvious weapon draws.

[halcyon otter]

every time i come on this chat i see Niventill disagreeing with everyone and anyone they can

[acoustic raptor]

These mfs should just buy 2050s and call it a day if they don't care about these issues

[summer copper]

you inserted yourself into this, said two messages and then said nobody cares what somebody else thinks. nobody cares what YOU think

[stone stump]

any proof it doesn't for most?

[halcyon otter]

the thing is its not just me? my first message was responding to someone else with the same experience

[stone stump]

if you look for one thing you will find only one thing

[halcyon otter]

are you slow

[halcyon otter]

theres only one thing to look at

[acoustic raptor]

💯

[stone stump]

everyone can see what they want, not really my problem

[halcyon otter]

alr

[midnight goblet]

whats the zipties tool for?

[stone stump]

cuffing people

[midnight goblet]

y do u need it as a tool when u can just press F

[stone stump]

and yes, dead ones as well

[muted star]

Pressing F makes your character use the zipcuff as a tool

[midnight goblet]

alr ty, does anyone know if theres an x26 mod or smth

[celest token]

WHAT'S THE ZIPTIES TOOL FOR?!?!🗣️🔥🔥

[muted star]

my guess cause the AI seems to be doing it

[shy tulip]

I think zipties are a leftover from swat 4 inspiration

But now you just cuff them with anything

So much better

[ruby talon]

they should probably just remove them from tool selection screen

[shy tulip]

Idk if they still work, if they do, then probably for the larpers

[tacit gull]

Leftover, currently has no use but the animation requires it

[stone stump]

gun clearing when

[astral warren]

I think the zipcuffs do work if you hold them and LMB on a surrendering civvie/suspect

Gun malfunctions when?

lmao no, these guys clean their guns more than they shoot them, so I doubt that'd happen. they get the good ammo, too.

[ruby talon]

I think malfunctions confirmed by devs to never be a thing in game.

[astral warren]

I am aware, it was a joke suggestion.

[ruby talon]

oh then nvm lol

[stone stump]

don't worry, they will eventually add it, as a bug

[astral warren]

Very true.

[summer copper]

i hope they add a new feature (bug) where at random, one magazine is missing a few bullets

void pls hire me

[stone stump]

i hope we will get a dlc that just adds more bugs

[astral warren]

All I want is for muzzle velocity to actually be implemented since it's basically functional but not enabled so far as I understand.

Why the hell would I ever pick any 5.56x45 rifle except the shortest one if muzzle velocity is a non factor?

[summer copper]

why does muzzle velocity matter anyway if 90% of gunfights are short range

[astral warren]

The SR-16 is incredibly unwieldy, has strange recoil compared to other options, and doesn't even offer superior penetration.

[stone stump]

brainrot

[astral warren]

Penetration is the important part.

[summer copper]

title of your amos voll film

[astral warren]

At least with submachine guns, barrel length is important.

A 1911 will spit out .45ACP moving significantly slower than out of a UMP45.

[earnest phoenix]

ok but it looks cool

[stone stump]

smgs have a damage drop off based on the distance iirc

and the bullet has a drop as well, i think?

[astral warren]

They do not.

The only projectiles are pepperballs, the rubber balls that come out of stingers, and beanbag rounds.

Bullets actually do become a projectile if they ricochet, though.

[stone stump]

im not talking about projectiles

[summer copper]

so let's say the 1911 shoots a 45 at 2000 feet per second. the UMP shoots it at 3000 feet per second. the target is anywhere between 10-200 feet in front of you

[astral warren]

If it's not a projectile it's hitscan. Hitscan doesn't drop, projectiles do.

[stone stump]

you can have a bullet drop with a hitscan

[astral warren]

The biggest advantage is limb penetration here if the muzzle velocity was factored in, because currently scoring a shot through someone's arm and torso is really difficult unless you hit the skinny part of their arm and it still does shit damage to their torso. This is because recently flesh was made the 3rd hardest material in the game, second only to concrete and steel.

[summer copper]

making it a projectile would be pointless

[astral warren]

You don't know what hitscan is.

[summer copper]

they can just change the penetration depth of different bullets or guns

[astral warren]

Hitscan literally draws a line, and checks if it intersects anything that you could damage with the line.

[muted star]

Yeahh I don't think so

[stone stump]

and yeah, it's not a thing ingame

[summer copper]

instead of crafting this entire convoluted system for a bullet to do the same thing

[stone stump]

i do

[astral warren]

Then you would know that hitscan can't drop, because hitscan is like a laser pointer that just checks for entities.

I know insurgency sandstorm has a hybrid system, where after the bullet is hitscan for the first 250ms of the projectile travel or something, and then it turns into a projectile past however many meters it could cover in 250ms at its given muzzle velocity.

[stone stump]

what stops you from implementing a z offset based on the distance?

[astral warren]

If you're leading for drop, the round isn't going to hit right away, it would feel and look unnatural.

It'd be like shooting a curved barrel'd gun instead of leading for drop, more like.

[slender adder]

yeah

z offset would be really weird

[astral warren]

You CAN do it that way, it would just feel really weird, I think.

[opaque birch]

i hope they add a bug where your main gun looks and functions suspiciously like an rpg7

[stone stump]

yeah, and it would require multiple passes

[opaque birch]

and you have 30 rockets as well please hire fans void

[hexed flame]

hello

i just downloaded russian voice mod

and it doesnt work

[astral warren]

I want someone to make a mod that adds a PKM to the game. There's nothing quite like 600 rounds per minute of 7.62x54R.

[hexed flame]

somebody know why is that?

[astral warren]

Did you install it in your game directory with other .pak extension files?

[stone stump]

when was this russian voice mod created/updated?

[opaque birch]

sniper or not has the m249 which is close enough

[astral warren]

M249 shoots 5.56x45, inadequate.

[summer copper]

i hope they add carpet bombing and nuclear bombs into the game. as bugs of course

[astral warren]

flat ballistics are nice for suppressive fire but machine guns are sometimes used to destroy cover

[hexed flame]

february 2022...

[shy tulip]

It dispenses freedom

[opaque birch]

i hope they add the tsar bomba to the game that i can deploy infinitely with no cooldowns

[hexed flame]

february 2022 last update

[astral warren]

There was an update in March, although not a lot was changed. I doubt anything would have broken the mod if it's just for voices, but it is possible it may need to be updated by the developer.

[opaque birch]

so i can really destroy those crackheads and their cartel

[astral warren]

I don't know how modding works in this game, exactly, so I'm not quite sure if that would cause issues or not.

[stone stump]

here is your reason

[hexed flame]

where can i get new one?

[summer copper]

me dropping infinite 500 megaton nukes onto volls house

[hexed flame]

december 2023 would work?

[stone stump]

likely yes

[tacit gull]

Unless someone uploaded a newer version you can't

But you can try re-converting the files to match the new ones

[warm delta]

brooooo someone make a mod #🔧modding-chat

i sent them pics

[muted star]

If you pay sure

[tacit gull]

avp getting the bag

[warm delta]

how much

[muted star]

Depends what you want exactly. Send me a dm if you want

[stone stump]

boa kgp uniforms when

[opaque birch]

when r they adding the gign dlc with sniper revolver

[cobalt basin]

ok so like can you actually have your team see the therapist in commander or nah

[shy tulip]

You can send them to therapy, yes

[stone stump]

gign is military though

[cobalt basin]

in the roster or somewhere else?

[shy tulip]

Hold tab and send them to therapy, I forgot exactly what you click, but it's there

[cobalt basin]

k

so when exactly do they need to go

[shy tulip]

When they're about to quit because you're killing everyone

[cobalt basin]

so crisis

[opaque birch]

not true GIGN stands for Groupe d'Intervention de la Gendarmerie Nationale which means national police's intervention group so pretty much theyre french SWAT

[shy tulip]

They can quit before getting to crisis if you push them too far, it's up to you to decide

[stone stump]

gendarmerie is military

[opaque birch]

no it isnt

its like PM in brazil its military police

[stone stump]

so you're saying that military police isn't military?

[opaque birch]

no theyre military police

theyre schtill police who cares add funny schniper revolver

[rugged ivy]

i keep headshotting people with 9mm and theyre just getting incapacitated lol

45 does it too sometimes

[gaunt turtle]

add schlatt raid to ron

[summer copper]

is it the military aiding the police or the police aiding the military

it's police with military stuff

[opaque birch]

bro its still the military doing police

like theyre doing police stuff

so add gign

[opaque birch]

its already in the game 23mbps

[summer copper]

so then it is military

[tepid salmon]

does this game have lan play

[gaunt turtle]

alternatively a lethal obsession

[summer copper]

more accurate, considering what "schlatt" did back in '98

[stone stump]

they're a part of the french army

[opaque birch]

nah its police with extra steps

[gaunt turtle]

*99 unless you're talking about his other doings before

[opaque birch]

it doesnt matter, "shlogg" takes no breaks, you can name any year and "schnoglebogle" probably did something that year

[gaunt turtle]

yea schready or not really reminds "schnool" of what he's done to this nation

[opaque birch]

this game really reminded me of what "schnitzel" did to my family in 2004

the police never found "schnizzle" after that

[stone bay]

Is the game being developed?

or did they close the Studio?

i rlly dont know

no updates since whenever again

[opaque birch]

bruh let them cook wtf

[stone bay]

everyone is hungry

its like back then

[opaque birch]

just wait for the food bro they didnt close the studio

be thankful we GOT the 1.0 release bruh

[novel horizon]

No updates since..

checks notes

March 5th. Yup, game dead. Pack it up, folks. /s

[daring flame]

HAHA!

[astral warren]

To be fair, that patch was literally 2 bug fixes, and nothing else.

But yeah, the game is still very actively being developed.

[novel horizon]

To be fair, he just said "updates" :p

[astral warren]

No, I agree.

It is AN update.

[novel horizon]

There has been announced DLC though, so like

Either way it's silly ahh hell to look at a game that isnt pumping out weekly content drops and decree it dead. It's not Fortnite

[astral warren]

I really prefer when games are developed more slowly with more cohesive updates that focus on a particular area.

That was really one of the reasons I enjoyed growing up with Minecraft so much, they would pick an area of the game, focus it, and improve it, it was enjoyable to watch it grow.

I remember making my first sticky piston door, I felt like Da Vinci.

RoN has a similar layout where they tend to make updates focused around particular areas, and I prefer it that way.

It makes it easier for developers to streamline their efforts and avoid stepping on one another's toes.

[earnest phoenix]

lets just hope ron updates wont take as long as minecraft's with a similar amount of content

[astral warren]

Minecraft died as soon as Micro$haft bought it.

[novel horizon]

As a Factorio player, I greatly appreciate when developers take time to let things cook. The wait is infinitely more worth it when it doesnt feel like Minecraft's recent updates

[astral warren]

They just added copper and all it can make is 3 fucking items, I'm not even shitting you.

[novel horizon]

(Mojang taking months to add a few blocks and 1-3 new mobs is crazy)

[astral warren]

Anyone here ever hear of Vintage Story?

[earnest phoenix]

minecraft devs when theyre forced to work more than 30 mins a week

[astral warren]

It's effectively advanced Minecraft.

[astral warren]

tbh

Vintage story is cool af because it has shit like pit kilns and pottery making, alongside cheese making and booze making.

[novel horizon]

I've seen some gameplay. It looks alright, but I dont know if I'd actually have fun playing it myself

[astral warren]

It's harder to get into than Minecraft, but once you get it down, it's fucking awesome, dude.

[earnest phoenix]

alcohol and cheese is definately the top 2 things minecraft is missing

[astral warren]

Strong agree.

But it's a children's game so being able to make mead from beehives would be inappropriate. 🙄

At least, that's how micro$haft sees it.

[stone stump]

weather overhaul would be pretty cool in minecraft imo

[astral warren]

Definitely watch a playthrough until they at least get a cooking pot and bowls for meal making. Meal making is essential for avoiding starvation.

[novel horizon]

Unfortunately, I do not have 21 USD

It will have to wait

[astral warren]

LOL dude funny story when I bought Vintage Story my bank locked my account because I bought an Austrian video game through their website.

Who the fuck runs internet scams in Austria, of all places?

[earnest phoenix]

1.22 - the france update

[novel horizon]

Terraria has Ale in the base game and that, alongside "Cartoon Violence" or something like that only gets them a T rating

[novel horizon]

Top 2 things is optimization and optimization

That game runs like shit. I dont mean to be a negative baby, but my system can run Cyberpunk 2077 and Baldur's Gate 3 and a bunch of other Triple A greats. Yet Minecraft is so laden with tech debt that it's just kinda stuck

[astral warren]

I agree, minecraft modpacks are kickass, but Vintage Story scratches my Minecraft modpack itch while being more coherent, not having broken crafting recipes, and not having overpowered "fustion reactors", as the mod called it.

[novel horizon]

It's hard to demand optimization, but my i7 and my 1070 should be able to handle silly block game

[earnest phoenix]

without optifine i struggle to get consistent 60 fps with 12 render distance on rtx 3060 ti

[stone stump]

i mean minecraft is hard to optimize and it's built using java

[astral warren]

Java is poopy shit tbh, but it's better than bedrock edition, somehow, still.

Treecapiator is a default feature in Vintage Story.

[stone stump]

optifine kinda sucks now. you're better off with sodium and nvidium

[astral warren]

Sodium is so damn good.

[novel horizon]

Optimization is hard in general. Code is hard in general. I will not deny that and I will not be a silly goober demanding multithreading as if it is a silver bullet to bad code (it's not). However, Microsoft is so successful that it practically has infinite money and the devs clearly are not doing actual work, so maybe they could look into hiring some experienced devs to at least clean up the backend

[astral warren]

I like AMD because NVIDIA are pricks that won't open source their drivers so that Linux based operating systems can use the cards to their fullest without relying on backwater hick reverse engineered graphics drivers.

[stone stump]

sucks to be a radeon guy ngl

[astral warren]

This 1000 times.

[novel horizon]

Trust me, I'm not someone who's never even looked at a coding language. I understand what a royal PITA something like this is, but you'd think the world's best selling game would have something to show for it besides tons of YouTube content

A ton of which is modded

Java absolutely can be performant and it can get things done. Mojang and Microsoft are just choosing not to do that for a variety of reasons we can only speculate

There's a video series by a YouTube channel called FinalForEach where one guy is "making a Minecraft clone but optimized" and he goes over his techniques and discusses tech debt and data savings and all this, honestly, really interesting stuff. I highly recommend checking it out

[novel dawn]

I'm having a problem my ron was working just fine last night and today it crashes trying to load the station saying something about video memory despite me having changed nothing

[stone stump]

that's true, but you become a part of the minority in the gpu market, you don't have nvidia goodies such as nvenc, dlss, dlaa and other shit and obviously the drivers can be a hit or miss

[novel horizon]

Nvidia drivers on their way to break something again

[stone stump]

they get most of their bag from bedrock edition. if it weren't for the modding they would've killed off java edition long time ago tbh

[novel horizon]

Probably. Remember when official modding support was gonna be a thing?

[stone stump]

not really

it's a good thing they let the community run most of the things

[sacred vessel]

has there been any word about whether or not (no pun intended) the other game modes will be returning?

[stone stump]

no (they won't)

game modes are integrated into levels

[novel horizon]

That said, it would be very cool to see more variety. I like the combination of Bomb Threat and Active Shooter in Elephant

[sacred vessel]

but they had them before, so wouldn't it be possible to at least bring them back for the maps that had them previously?

or is it just gonna be one game mode forever now

[novel horizon]

It's my favorite level for that reason. It challenges me to optimize my playstyle

[stone stump]

no.

[sacred vessel]

:(

[novel horizon]

That's not the case atm. Some of the levels are different from the usual Barricaded Suspects. I'm hoping that future maps will have different modes as well

[sacred vessel]

oh ok! i hope that someday there will be maps that let you choose between modes again, but the current maps are still very fun. i look forward to replaying them more. thank you for answering my question! i assume it's been asked plenty of times before so i apologize for any bother

[wraith shell]

the AI on lethal obsession r so cracked...

[gaunt turtle]

literally CRACKed..

[wraith shell]

lol ive been trying solo non lethal for like an hour now

[novel horizon]

You're no bother 🙌

Like I said, Elephant is my favorite one. I like the ways it stands out from other levels. I try to go for a slow and careful playstyle and Active Shooters + Bomb Threat kind of forces me to be careful faster. It's honestly really good

[wraith shell]

every time i peek a corner one of the npcs will somehow hear me and turn around and 1 tap me

is there a way to go taser shield?

[stone stump]

no

[novel horizon]

There is not. You should bring a launcher though. NPCs are not immune to flash launcher (great for when they decide to have eyes in the back of their head)

I lost a few attempts because of one guy having a staring contest with a door and instantly popping me when I peeked. Flash launcher saved the day

[wraith shell]

yeah ill have to try flashes

i just loaded a mag of pepperballs into one of them and he didnt even gaf

1 tap

[novel horizon]

I prefer Beanbag Shotgun. It's much more effective imo

As long as you dont hit the head :p

[wraith shell]

ill give it a shot with flashes

spawn rng is helpful too solo

if u get the spawn where all 3 are upstairs its no bueno

[novel horizon]

When playing Commander, I gave B and D the pepperball AR and A and C the beanbag shotgun. It worked fairly nice

[wraith shell]

im doing solo solo

[novel horizon]

Might wanna try beanbag for the map then. I dont know if the guys are resistant to gas, but they are wearing gas masks, so logically I just brought beanbags

[wraith shell]

ill try beanbags

its really hard unless all of them, are on different floors

none of my friends will get on and help me haha

trying to S every map

[novel horizon]

Pepperball does work via gas if you're not aware. Pain + gas. Beanbag is just pain, but that's not exactly easily dealt with

[novel horizon]

Want a new friend? My normal group is radio silent today

I've S ranked em all

[wraith shell]

sure, but i can only play after my class ends im about to head over now

ive got class from 5:40-6:30 est, so in a few minutes now

[novel horizon]

👍

[wraith shell]

what do you do if they run outside

really wish i could run 2 tacticals with a shield lol

[novel horizon]

Run outside and trip the wire? Restart if I'm going for S lol

Just run outside? Shoot them with the beanbag

[wraith shell]

dude ran outside and headshotted me thru a small window

i gotta turn back on some ai modsl ol

[novel horizon]

That's just unlucky, damn. I've only had em run outside a few times and I sniped em with a bean bag and sprinted over while they played their animation

Grenades are also good for buying yourself more time in that scenario

[wraith shell]

got it finally

really lucky spawn tho, 2 guys basement both got hit with gas

last dude decided to walk down and got instant bean bagged

good final run b4 class

[novel horizon]

Baller

[celest token]

is there any advantage to using flashes over stingers?

[shy tulip]

It depends on the situation

I prefer flashbangs because stingers have a big range and will absolutely hit you if you peek into the room too soon

Stingers can also blow open doors

You can also use antiflash goggles

But stingers are a bit more effective/guaranteed

[proven nimbus]

flashbangs are cooler in my opinion

[novel horizon]

I prefer flashes personally. I've been using them since I started playing and I've only picked up stingers a handful of times. Familiarity wins in my book

[vestal mauve]

I use stingers, flashes are just way too inconsistent right now

[summer copper]

i use stingers but i give AI both just in case, i always use ballistic mask so

[past warren]

Have they added the Skibidi rizz update

[summer copper]

☹️

[bitter birch]

Anyone know the best way to complete sins of the father or the run with me

[shy tulip]

I like the rooftop start, but you can also start with the elevator I think it's called

[celest token]

they're essentially the same from what i understand, just that some ennemies are immune to flashes, but no one is protected from the mighty rubber pellet

makes me wonder why flashes are even a thing

[high beacon]

I almost S-ranked it on my first ever attempt. Went in non-lethal. Rooftop start, working my way down from there. One case of unauthorized force (minus 50 points) ruined the S-run for me

Brought gas, gas masks, beanbag shotguns, pepperball guns, and wedges

[novel horizon]

I dont think you can get Unathorized Use of Force from flash

Dont know if stingers are different in that regard

[celest token]

they aren't, and have better range and effect apparently

ig the IRL downside of such a device is that the pellet would have a chance to simply miss you, but that doesn't happen here

and well it could litteraly pop your eye when i think of it

many cases of injuries with those in french riots

[astral warren]

The French? Rioting? I don't believe you. That just wouldn't happen.

[brittle sentinel]

whats with the FISA? I just opened an entire container full of people, and they tell me to walk away...

[idle stream]

sounds like someones about to get fucked in ur area, id just listen to them and stay away

[brittle sentinel]

I have a LMG, tell em to get some.

im going to C4 that crate, i'll be back.

[idle stream]

🤣

really its just BORTAC so, its no big deal

they just want in on the action, even irl

[brittle sentinel]

the FISA being sus rn.

[umbral oar]

still not the conclusion i would reach

[brittle sentinel]

How so?

Im sure saving the civvies inside ASAP would be priority for any organization involved with the raid, doesnt have to be FISA. And telling me to walk away? For what?

[copper cypress]

Do I get the same points if the suspect is incapacitated or dead?

[daring flame]

lil bro will not survive the oil 🙏 😭

[shy tulip]

I believe incap and dead are the same, arrests are max points.

[copper cypress]

QQ

Does this encourage us to use fully automatic fire to kill the suspect instead of incapacitating the suspect🤣

[rugged ivy]

i forgot about the bombs on the elephant and i got 17 civ killed deductions when they blew up 💀

[fierce prawn]

Like how do you complete "The Spider"?

[past warren]

Wicked dude!!!

Rock on!!!

[rugged ivy]

thats not what toc said

[marble quest]

Like any other level

[amber hearth]

u need to get that businessman alive(incap or arrest)

[past warren]

Toc is stoooopid

[copper cypress]

Can upper body injuries and head injuries be treated by pressing F to stop the bleeding like hand injuries?

[jolly verge]

Stopping bleed always have same animation no matter what part you got shot at

It's also heal you back to 50% health if you were under it

Injured parts just apply penalties and cant be "healed"

[copper cypress]

Oh~

[earnest phoenix]

is there any way to dowgrade to pre 1.0

[urban walrus]

https://www.makeuseof.com/how-to-downgrade-steam-games/

[earnest phoenix]

which is the oldest one i can get without supporter i think you needed taht for some older builds

[urban walrus]

Should be Until Early Access launch, SE for even earlier (You will need the archived version)

[earnest phoenix]

ok so the earliest one is jan 15 2022 i think

[urban walrus]

https://steamdb.info/changelist/13453885/

[loud flicker]

Hello

[winter shadow]

Soup

[loud flicker]

Will Ready or not go on discount on spring sale?

[winter shadow]

Game owner will decide

[loud flicker]

Darn

The price of entry is so high

[winter shadow]

It was cheap before patch 1.0 lol

[loud flicker]

Yeah I know I was late before the hype

I regretted it

[urban walrus]

It's in the trailer

[loud flicker]

Trailer?

[urban walrus]

https://youtu.be/sqXjSeEL5I0?si=jpxbO9NeRWv7wa5O&t=7

[loud flicker]

ooo3

So it will…

But how much…

[stone bay]

10-15 bucks lower at max I think

[loud flicker]

I only got 30 bucks in my steam wallet I dunno if it will cover it

[stone bay]

Chances are it wont

[loud flicker]

Back to trading it is

[loud flicker]

The last discount sale was like $37.49

[stone bay]

What is the default price of the game?

[loud flicker]

$50

[stone bay]

40-50 bucks?

Rip

Its a lot

[loud flicker]

I dunno why steam doesn’t lower the price in my country

[stone bay]

Where you from?

[loud flicker]

Cambodia

[stone bay]

Hmm, Idk

I guess thats even more money for you than for people from NA

[loud flicker]

You’re right about that everyone else gets it for half the price

[stone bay]

Well its still 50 bucks in NA & EU

I got lucky and bought it early access

For half price (I think)

[proven nimbus]

I bought it when it was early access and refunded it 😭

[loud flicker]

Ouch

[proven nimbus]

Now i bought it for €50

[loud flicker]

What made you want to try it again?

And what made you refund it?

[proven nimbus]

Refunded it bcs it ran like dogshit

[loud flicker]

And now?

[proven nimbus]

Its better

And idk taste changes over time

[loud flicker]

h

Hope I’ll meet new people here once I buy the game

[winter shadow]

Yer will, promise 😄

Previous patch kinda pain in the ass

when suspect can 1 tap you in the head before but now it fixed

[proven nimbus]

Ive had that happen

This patch

I was playing valley of the dolls and a suspect appeared out of somewhere after i was sure i cleared the whole map and shot me

20-30 minutes of my life gone just like that

[upbeat heath]

30 mins of lifetime aint alot

[winter shadow]

It's average

[stone bay]

lol

[stone bay]

Double loö

[stone bay]

i feel like it ran better back in the day

[sharp fox]

what happens when i shoot the trailers at the end of the mission
is this why they carry guns

[lost inlet]

Nothing happen if you just shoot them, use shotgun and blow both of their legs off then sth happen

[sudden marsh]

It stutters like shit for me constantly still
Im on a 4080 GPU on a fresh reinstall (btw)

[stone bay]

ironman no ai deaths wish me luck

[copper cypress]

Will you guys prioritize the mission goals or the lives of your team members?

[tacit gull]

mission goals

[copper cypress]

I found one map that was really difficult to play without using real guns.

[lost inlet]

Bruh which maps is not difficult using non lethal

[winter shadow]

Thank you, come again 😄

[lost inlet]

Cuff one then another one appear and repeat

[winter shadow]

Always check before cuff doe, It never only 1

[lost inlet]

True

[warm delta]

Anyone have a ron voice line sheet?

[winter shadow]

The wut

[warm delta]

Like for characters all their voice lines

[winter shadow]

Oh, you mean the mod one or the normal one?

[warm delta]

I wanna make my own one

[winter shadow]

Rip idk that one, sorry...

[lost inlet]

Thinks you should take this to the modding channel

[warm delta]

alr

[copper cypress]

There are too many obstacles inside the Postal Service. My pepper gun bullets had a hard time hitting the suspect.

[cobalt basin]

so like how often should i send my guys to therapy

[lost inlet]

Dont use pepperball use beanbag more powerful more consistent

[cobalt basin]

every other mission or what

[copper cypress]

The firefight distance is too far for most situations.

[lost inlet]

What about launcher?

[daring flame]

not me… when I get angry I see red. A glimpse into my dark twisted mind would rip any mortal to shreds.. heh..

[lost inlet]

[copper cypress]

I already have a mirror gun behind my back

[zealous mantle]

Which one

The postal service?

[copper cypress]

The postal service one

Yeah.

[zealous mantle]

I can see how it can be tough

But gas + beanbag + taser should do the trick

You can rush around a corner easily with a taser, doesnt take a bunch of aiming and cant kill them

Beanbag works fine on longer distances for me

[copper cypress]

I hardly ever use projectiles in this game. The projectiles are all used by my Ai teammates😅

[zealous mantle]

Gas everything else I guess

[zealous mantle]

Thats why its tough then

The AI is fine but they cant do exactly what you imagine

[lost inlet]

No one blames you if you use mods

[copper cypress]

mods?

[lost inlet]

Yesh

[copper cypress]

What mods @@?

[lost inlet]

Any mods make the game fit to your playstyle

Its all on nexus

[copper cypress]

Oh~

[lost inlet]

Yeesshhh

[copper cypress]

What type of bullets can a helmet stop at most?

[stone stump]

any bullet, even 50 cal, but only once

[copper cypress]

Lmao

[stone stump]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1d89lpFDA9lo_v13iBlnhtuA6DvuUnKfPaeo0d4RBGJ4/edit

[compact sequoia]

what kind of metal is our shield made out of, it can block literally everything

did they use the same shit they made captain america's shield with

[lost inlet]

Kek read some where it suppose to only able to stop pistol round

[compact sequoia]

lore reveal : 300blk, 5.56, and 7.62 are all considered pistol caliber in los suenos

wow

[copper cypress]

Will SWAT AI stop bleeding like players?

[jolly verge]

swat ai can't bleed

[upbeat heath]

umm
how many maps in ron are based in real life and movie trategies

i just got to know that the elephant is based on the movie elephant and neon nigltclub is based on the night club shooting, i forgot where it was

how many more are there

[sudden marsh]

i think atleast 3

the elephant and nightclub ones are the 2 u mentioned

Lethal obssession feels likes its based off ruby ridge in a way

Rust Belt might be based off the border crisis, but i doubt it

23 Megabytes a second is technically a slight reference at twitch streamers getting swatted.

[earnest phoenix]

how do i backup my save file

do i just backup the entire AppData\Local\ReadyOrNot\Saved folder

[tacit gull]

That should work

[stone stump]

yeah, and it works better than the current implementation of steam cloud

[tacit gull]

I'm pretty sure steam cloud doesn't save anything other than commander mode

As in: settings, unlocks, ranks (anything that actually matters)

[stone stump]

last time i tried running ready or not on a different machine my entire save was gone because of the steam cloud (i had a manual backup thankfully), so i'm pretty sure it does "save"

but it's another story if you're ever getting that save back

because it seems that on a machine without any save data RoN will just overwite the save stored in the cloud with the nonexistent one locally

[tacit gull]

I should probably actually back my shit up unless i want to use customisation unlocked again

[wraith cloud]

hey its just me or anybody else also having issues trying to tell your ai team to stack up at the cargo door in the first mission

[stone stump]

stack up command has been pretty inconsistent since 1.0, so most likely it's not just you

[worldly quarry]

for doing the way out west achievement, does it have to be a stock .357 or can i put a laser/snubnose on it

[stone stump]

no, it doesn't

[worldly quarry]

how about gear usage?

[stone stump]

you can only use .357, same goes for the SWAT AI

[worldly quarry]

so i should probably restrict their ammo

[stone stump]

yeah, no primary ammo

[worldly quarry]

sick, thanks

currently trying to s rank sins of the father

[hexed flame]

hello

how can i get some vacation for operator in my single person mode?

[stone stump]

you can't

[hexed flame]

but there is "i should get vacation for someone"

[stone stump]

you can only unassign them or have them go to a therapy

both can be done in the roster menu (in your tablet)

[hexed flame]

yeah i have take him to therapy

okey thanks

[copper cypress]

Can I play the game using two mods at the same time?

[tacit gull]

Yes

But it depends on what they change

[copper cypress]

How about No crack + No Aimbot and wallhack ??

[jolly verge]

They will conflict with each other due to using same ai config file, use only one of them.
No crack have more presets from which you can choose

[copper cypress]

Okay, got it. Thanks

[tacit gull]

Oh dude

i just noticed, the fancy glass physics are gone

[opaque birch]

theyre GONE??? NOOOOOOO

[tacit gull]

The club pools used to have it, now it all shatters instantly

[summer copper]

i think car windows still have it

[tacit gull]

I don't think they do

[worldly quarry]

finally

3 more levels to go and i get the medal of valor achievement

last is port hokan, cherryessa vineyard and coastal grove

[summer copper]

just tested it on the spider and they do

[tacit gull]

They don't, tested on both the spider and dealer

[summer copper]

clip it

[pastel wind]

Give 1911 8 rounds

Or 10

With an extended

[opaque birch]

just reload after you spawn in

[pastel wind]

Nah

[opaque birch]

also use the usp

[pastel wind]

I want 8+1

[pastel wind]

Hell naw I’m an American

[opaque birch]

use the 357 its cooler

and cool trumps all ofc

[undone plank]

Nah, use FiveSeven

[summer copper]

five seven pea shooter usp on top

[undone plank]

In game, the five seven round is better than 45

[crude prism]

define 'better'

[undone plank]

Greater penetration

More rounds

[summer copper]

more penetration does not mean better necessarily

[umbral oar]

when will they add that tiny flip gun with 22 lr

[undone plank]

Correct, but 2 more rounds in a mag can make a difference between life or death

[opaque birch]

three five seven right

[acoustic ridge]

wallet gun

[hexed yacht]

quick question, i'm doing the hermit achievement and i'm wondering if one of my officers gets incapacitated, but another one of them has paramedic perk unlocked will it still count towards the achievement?

[opaque birch]

they should honestly add that for the suspects like when they fake surrender they just whip that lil thing out and miss

[summer copper]

actually its root third fifth

[frail quartz]

I wouldn't say its better than .45, but it's petty damn close and absolutely worth the extra 8 rounds and low recoil you get from it

[opaque birch]

i alternate between the usp and 57 theyre both very solid sidearms

[past warren]

We need a new mode, insane impossible cracked ai mode

If you complete it, you’ll get a smooch from one of the devs themselves

[opaque birch]

i agree but instead of a smooch its 1 dollar

one crumpled up dollar bill they forgot they had in their wallet

[proven nimbus]

i refuse to use anything apart from the 357 as a sidearm

[novel horizon]

🤝

[opaque birch]

so true

[novel horizon]

Standard issue big iron on my hip

[proven nimbus]

i feel more confident with the revolver after i run out of ammo mid gunfight

[opaque birch]

revolver gives a default 50% confidence boost cuz of how badass you look with that big iron

[limber tundra]

I am in need of a squad.

I wish to obtain the team members.

[opaque birch]

#🔎looking-for-players

[limber tundra]

thankus

[opaque birch]

🤙

[past warren]

Insane individual

[opaque birch]

you mean based

[past warren]

I want my suspects alive instead of them having a golf ball size hole in their chest

[opaque birch]

i want em dead

thats why i run supernova + 357

[frail quartz]

Nonlethal downing gang 🤝

[summer copper]

real

[past warren]

Real

[summer copper]

ee er ❌

[opaque birch]

EXTREMELY LOUD INCORRECT BUZZER
KILLING EVERYONE GANG 🔛 🔝

they need to make the on top emojis white

[frail quartz]

You're right, I'm not fit to be a police officer 😔

[summer copper]

you are perfect for desk work

you can do the paperwork when i slaughter all 18 suspects

and make them look like swiss cheese

"so at this moment, he felt it was necessary to spend the entire mag on this one suspect, as he was scared"

[opaque birch]

unless you SHOTGUN EVERYONE IN THE HEAD BLOOD EVERYWHERE SPLATTER SPLATTER KILL PEOPLE KILL PEOPLE you aint gonna be a police officer and thats fr 🤑 😴 🥱

[frail quartz]

Genius!!!

[opaque birch]

acorn cop moment

[summer copper]

the civilian that was restrained and disarmed totally magically broke out and also magically popped a new suppressed pistol purely to take one shot at me

duh

[opaque birch]

uhh the guy who was on the floor crouched and handcuffed actually stole my gun and shot at me to which i pulled out my gun and shot him 30 times in the chest

[summer copper]

the guy who was incapacitated totally looked like he was going to shoot me, so i pumped 3 buckshot rounds into his cranium

point blank, might i add

[opaque birch]

yeah so he totally was thinking about poking me with a stick so i shot him with a 12 gauge slug 4 times

[summer copper]

okay let me break it down for you. i restained the suspect. ziptie. he did not resist. yet magically, he looked like he was going to try and break out. so, i felt it was a necessary precaution to stuff my gun barrel in his mouth and not let go of the trigger.

[opaque birch]

so he was on the ground incapacitated and my fellow officer of the law was handcuffing him to prevent him getting back up so i shot them both in the head with 762 20 times each

[frail quartz]

okay let me break it down for you.

||🕺 🕺 🕺 🕺 ||

[summer copper]

SIR GET DOWNNNNNN

[opaque birch]

why did i kill my fellow officer? he was clearly a cia informant

[summer copper]

obviously a whistleblower for The Hand

[opaque birch]

the hat man told me to do it

[summer copper]

the shat man

[opaque birch]

im the shat man ski ba bop ba dop dop

[summer copper]

ski bi di ba doodly bap

[frail quartz]

Wait, I thought the police WAS the government

[opaque birch]

uh ummm well i duhhh uhmmm uhhh uhhhhhhhhhhhhh RESISTING ARREST! *shoots you 12 times with my shotgun

[frail quartz]

This implies you stopped to reload before continuing to fire

[opaque birch]

i did

[novel horizon]

I wish the game would let me have a longer barrel

[opaque birch]

and a sniper scope

[proven nimbus]

I play this game to dress my guy up in cool clothes n have fun

[spark dome]

Can you get S on Hide&Seek?

[past warren]

Yes

[spark dome]

I do not have 5/5 Soft Obj

[undone plank]

Ye, especially when using a shield

[spark dome]

Reported the civs in the container, guns, drugs and the auction place

[opaque birch]

FUCK shields

[undone plank]

Did you arrest all of the suspects?

[spark dome]

Yep

and civs

[opaque birch]

wtf

[undone plank]

Were they all alive and not incapacitated or dead?

[spark dome]

or some weapon went into space

that might be the case

[undone plank]

If you’re using swat ai order them to search and secure

[spark dome]

I'm playing duo

[stone bay]

calm the fuck down please

[spark dome]

and the weapons are sometimes funky

[frail quartz]

If they added a 15 round .45 pistol like an FNX I'd probably consider maining it over the five-seven

[spark dome]

?

[spark dome]

had a lot of situations where the guns were invisible and silent for me

[stone bay]

chill the fuck out

[past warren]

[spark dome]

bro i'm chilling i just want to have the mission done

[opaque birch]

he is chill brah? cant even explain your situation anymore bru 😭

[stone bay]

bro nno he is not

he needs to log off for a bit

[opaque birch]

he just talking bro no one needs to log off bruh

[stone bay]

his anger is starting to become a avenger level threat

[stone bay]

ur insane

[opaque birch]

projecting smh

[stone bay]

u probably believe in autism

[opaque birch]

nah bruh get out bruh you probably think the earth exists

fuck out my face boy

[stone bay]

alright little bro chill the fuck out

Y'all both are heated for no reason.

[spark dome]

no way found the lost glitched gun

[stone bay]

no they need to chill

i am calm im as calm as suddam hussen

[proven nimbus]

Where was it

[opaque birch]

that dont even make sense

[stone bay]

hussain

[frail quartz]

The drawings of his hiding place looked pretty cozy, he'd probably be chill af in there

[opaque birch]

ngl i havent seen them but his hiding place did look pretty claustrophobic so idk

[frail quartz]

Cozy is the word, smh

[opaque birch]

true mb gang

[spark dome]

somewhere in a random full black corner in the big warehouse

wasnt glowing at all, found it by lucky

[stone bay]

dude chill out

[sudden marsh]

no way fred jones from fortnite

don't let scooby catch him saying that

[spark dome]

bro i'm bing chilling

[stone bay]

bro stfu

[spark dome]

with my music louder than the game

[stone bay]

u guys need to chill and stop being so rude

[spark dome]

🤡

[summer copper]

ladies, ladies. both of you calm down. EVERYBODY calm down

there is no need for all of the yelling

[dark charm]

Me and my friend have finally done Hospital S rank, this is good day (15:34).

[spark dome]

Congrats

Is it me or the game got very easy since December?

[summer copper]

yes they stopped the AI from being omnipotent john wicks

[spark dome]

Now i can around like john wick

do some weird dodges and be still alive

[summer copper]

sometimes you'll still get absolutely clipped but it's rarer

[spark dome]

I even got an S first time playing 1 map by accident

we wanted gain some info about the map

but ended up playing it once

[hushed meadow]

I've been out of the loop since February, anything new I should know?

[sudden marsh]

optimization is bad, AI fixed (mostly), New DLC announced

[hushed meadow]

Thanks, I wish you no cracked ai during game play

[shrewd oriole]

VOID try not to bank in challenge (impossible)

[uncut cliff]

can you change your character

[novel horizon]

Did you close the civs container after you opened it?

The final soft objective is to close the container like the FISA agent tells you to

[craggy yew]

FISA straight up the Voll of government agencies

[twilit robin]

yee the story really lining up for the FISA/MLO showdown in DLC

[wanton urchin]

nah, the AI is not fixed

[sudden marsh]

i said (mostly)

they made some adjustments

[wanton urchin]

that don't mean the game is bad though

[sudden marsh]

its bad in other ways tho, that wasnt my sole case

[wanton urchin]

nah its not that bad

[sudden marsh]

to you it aint, but its subjective at the end of the day

[stone stump]

anyone can have low expectations

[tawdry nymph]

TBF... consider the AI issues (shooting through walls and dropping stuff through maps and all) it was there sinces Ver1.0... by this point its rather keep waiting of just get mods to fix it

so yeah. DK

[stone stump]

yet to see that shooting through walls issue

[sudden marsh]

the most ive seen was enemies seeing me and shooting at me and 1 tapping like they are using Russian CSGO Hacks

unless theres glass between you and the enemies, i havent seen anything with shooting through walls

[novel horizon]

All of the "shooting through walls" I have experienced is when I swing a corner, there is a suspect who turns to shoot at me and I go back around the corner, so he shoots into the wall where I might be

Which is exactly what I see from other players too

[stone stump]

yeah, exactly. makes perfect sense to be that way

[sudden marsh]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZjPB3a2t1vk

[novel horizon]

Glass is annoying though. I cannot see through it a lot of the time and I'm not sure how much of that can be attributed to the game trying to simulate glare

[tawdry nymph]

the game needs some work, thats for sure but yeah, i mean all we can do is hope if they fix them or idk some mod came along

as to glass i usualy just decided to shoot stright through it if need be consider the glare was so bad

[sudden marsh]

man if modders have to constantly pamper and change voids diapers with their own fixes than glaring red flag

[wanton urchin]

It's not just that. Sometimes maybe their barrel will be poking out behind a wall and for some reason they immediately raise their gun and start shooting around it but not like blind firing. They see you. And their head is not looking at you. It's looking through a wall.

[stone stump]

you don't have to call out bethesda like that

[sudden marsh]

fallout 3 and NV on PC still need user patches just to be playable lol

[tawdry nymph]

XDXD FK ME SHOTS FIRED

[sudden marsh]

fallout 3 straight up doesnt boot without one

[stone stump]

NV isn't made by bethesda

[sudden marsh]

it was published by them

and still has a buggy PC Port

[stone stump]

i would blame the creation engine tbh

or whatever its name was back then

[sudden marsh]

creation club was the downfall

[stone stump]

sometimes you say? kinda unlucky for me

[sudden marsh]

who woulda thought years later a post apoc rpg would add microtransaction currency

[bright shale]

Xbox release possible?

[stone stump]

shh, people are still waiting for a proper pc release

[slender adder]

#🎨ron-screenshots-and-art message

[spark dome]

It closed by itself lol

I had a missing gun

Took me and my friend a while to find it

It was literally invisible in some dark corner

[hexed granite]

is there any game that has gunplay better or just as good as Ready or Not?

I can really only think of insurgency sandstorm or squad

[covert thicket]

Oh my god i just relized they implemented the same Water Physic like in TimeSplitters (if you shoot a container it emptys itself until the point you got it)
i love it!

[hexed granite]

old dealership acquarium

[acoustic eagle]

i think i just shot myself to death.

i was leaning and trying to kill someone directly below and i just instantly died after opening fire

[tacit gull]

If you were shooting against steel or a hard wall your bullets might have splashed

[acoustic eagle]

i kinda wanna try to replicate it cuz it was funny

[fervent niche]

Aye so I will be looking for a taser ron and can’t find it for the life of me even though I have used it before

[wispy burrow]

that would explain a lot of mysterious deaths throughout my gameplays

[tacit gull]

Taser was moved to tacticals

[copper cypress]

Stronger SWAT and no crack will conflict?

[tacit gull]

I think they might?

Or maybe not

It depends, what does stronger SWAT do? does it change playerstats?

[copper cypress]

Stronger SWAT: +HP and movement speed.

no crack only affects suspects.

[tacit gull]

Then it should work

[copper cypress]

Oh~Ok

Some levels require me to capture an important suspect alive. Does this mean that its HP will be higher than that of other suspects?

[jolly verge]

no, all suspects on map will have same amount of health

[copper cypress]

QQ

[grim hound]

How to fix equipment bug? It's been in my game since yesterday.

picture on #🎨ron-screenshots-and-art

[jolly verge]

did you use any mods before?

go to %LocalAppData%\ReadyOrNot\Saved\Crashes open latest crash and send here CrashContext.runtime-xml

[grim hound]

I use 99 equipment mods before. but then I uninstall and delete mod. I just recently installed the game twice still the same issue. don't know how to fix it.

[jolly verge]

Use method by Desmond, delete this loadout and take default one

[grim hound]

still not fixed.

I use 'Play safe mode (no mod)" and still crashed

should I reinstall that mod again?

[jolly verge]

you need delete it fully

SteamLibrary\steamapps\common\Ready Or Not\Engine\Binaries\Win64 start crashreporter and click Delete Mode Data

[tacit gull]

I think that might delete your saves aswell

[jolly verge]

nope, only mode data

[grim hound]

uhhh

what did I do. it suddenly fixed????

I haven't even click anything yet. let me try on x12 mode

well. not sure what happened but it's fixed. thx guys.

Is the game doable to clear with only 2 players and no AI?

[tacit gull]

Yeah, it's not easy though

Probably still better than AI

[grim hound]

how to divide role then? my friend usually fragger type of player, tho, in this game not sure it can helps considering we died easily.

I'm more into utility player.

[tacit gull]

Loadouts don't matter much, what matters more is the tactics you employ

If you want to take more people in alive you could try the mirrorgun and gas

Otherwise just cover eachother's corners

[hardy plinth]

For me flashbangs only work half of the time

Stingers feel more consistent

[copper cypress]

Poor cover penetration = unable to penetrate cover?

I'm not sure if my understanding of English is correct. I'm not a native English speaker

[hardy plinth]

Well it would mean it's bad at penetrating cover

Linguistically this wouldn't necessarily imply that it's impossible to penetrate any cover

But I don't know how it's programmed into the game, which is what's more important

Void just wants you to guess

[copper cypress]

Perhaps it can be verified by whether it can be shot through a glass window?

[hardy plinth]

I think any bullet besides pepperballs and beanbags can penetrate windows

Cover penetration is more in regards to thin walls

[proven blade]

Should I try and S rank ides of March

OR

should I continue to finish the story and play carriers or the fine

Vine

[twilit robin]

Unmodded CS is very underwhelming and kinda dangerous

[tacit gull]

What? How?

I dont even know of any mods that modify CS

[twilit robin]

it’s AOE is really small,
for some reason it’s Smokey?
however the AI doesn’t see the CS effect and will shoot you clearly if they are outside the AOE.

So your effectively smoke grenading your self

[feral fog]

aoe is area of effect right?

[twilit robin]

Ye

[feral fog]

mk thanks

[twilit robin]

Stingers are the best utility imho.

[tacit gull]

Gas has the biggest AOE and it also goes through walls, they also made it less opaque in one of the patches

Other grenades are gutted by a shitty LOS check, making them inconsistent

[twilit robin]

it’s better but still very very mid. it’s range and effect are piss poor compared to IRL CS gas

AI mods make it much more effective

[tacit gull]

Well duh, if you were to use real life CS gas 1-4 grenades would clear entire maps

[twilit robin]

🤷‍♂️

RON has gamey elements like that. Not a bad thing

[tacit gull]

It already sucks a lot of the fun out of the game if you just spam it everywhere considering there's literally 1 suspect in the game who has a working gas mask by default

[twilit robin]

it’s definitely powerful on some maps

but any maps with kinda medium sized rooms or open spaces it’s basically useless

[tacit gull]

The only time i think other utility is superior to gas is when you're in a gunfight

since gas just takes too long to deploy

[twilit robin]

And the AI push immediately after the gas pops

[tacit gull]

It can also keep surrendered suspects on the ground for as long as the effect lasts, aswell as fuck up anyone that decides to run in after the fact

I would always keep a canister on me if the grenade priority wasn't fucking stupid

[twilit robin]

yeah but it dissipates so fast. and the fog effect just means the AI will run at you and shoot you.

it’s very very mid

[celest plinth]

Hey guys, just checking in. Does the game still run terrible?

Really want to get into it again but my poor frames

[slender adder]

it would run like shit forever until you upgrade your specs if your base frames are bad

[civic zinc]

It doesn't have shader precompiling

[slender adder]

yeah that causes stutter, not bad frames

not consistent bad frames, at least

[civic zinc]

My game had stutters that would happen whenever almost any action happened, then it just stopped about a week or 2 ago

[celest plinth]

No need to be rude. It ran great before the big update

[civic zinc]

Now it's relatively consistent 40-60 FPS, some people might not like that but I have a 60hz monitor so I'm happy

Ironically enough the worst FPS part of the entire game for me is the diner area in 4u gas station, I assume it's the light distortion effects from those weird glass dividers

[slender adder]

not trying to be rude sorry

[civic zinc]

Still wanting the old hotel map back

[stone stump]

pc specs?

[civic zinc]

Ryzen 3 3200g with an Rx 6500 xt I got more recently, in hindsight I could've gotten something better but given that I can get playable FPS in even RoN I don't mind

The only problem I have with the game's performance is lacking shader pre-compilation which made the first 2 months post 1.0 a stuttery mess for me until one day when it just sorta stopped

[stone stump]

i don't remember shaders compiling for 2 months

[civic zinc]

I played on and off

[stone stump]

takes like a minute per map to figure itself

[civic zinc]

I distinctly remember having stutters during firefights until some time in mid to late February

I assume that it stopped needing to compile muzzle flash effects, or the Devs fixed something I wasn't aware of

[stone stump]

not related to shaders at all. back in the day it was mostly caused by steam input

[civic zinc]

It sure as hell seemed like my pc was frying at the concept of loading the muzzle flash effects

Cause it would happen even when I wasn't shooting

[stone stump]

is that radeon 4 or 8 GB?

[civic zinc]

I think it was 4gb

I'm not sure what caused the game to stop having issues with stutters myself

It might've been shaders but it also could've been some other shite

[stone stump]

yeah... ron is not having a great time if you give it 4GB of vram

or 8 even

[civic zinc]

I am aware that I have to keep my vram in check

I'll probably upgrade again some time in the future and get something more capable of running ue4 games

But I'll probably have to replace pretty much everything in the damn computer except the drives and the ram

[stone stump]

the cpu is fine as long as you don't need more than ~100fps or decent 1% lows

at least in ron that is

[civic zinc]

I have a 60hz monitor

I don't need anything above 60

But I do like being able to use higher settings

It's not something I've put too much thought into yet

[stone stump]

true, but you still benefit from higher frames

[copper cypress]

Do you guys agree that bigger rooms mean more danger?

I found that if I entered the dance floor area from the beginning in the nightclub level, it would be easy to cause casualties to the team.

[acoustic bramble]

where i can go to DOC

[warm orchid]

I would say that rooms with alot of angles mean more danger. The dance floor area in neon isn't actually that big, but the fact that you've got at least 3 entrances on the bottom floor plus a balcony above it that covers most of the room means that the room is a perfect killzone. Plus its dark with alot of flashing lights and booming music, so its hard to see or hear anything. There are areas in the game that are significantly larger in the game, but easier to clear because there's only a couple angles enemies can engage you from. Another good example of a danger room would be the main lobby in 23 metabytes per second. The room itself isn't that big, but you've got 2 floors above you that can easily shoot you to pieces.

[copper cypress]

This game does not encourage us to break through head-on lol

[copper cypress]

Listening to what you said, it seems that it was wrong for me to enter through the main entrance of the gas station at the first level. It’s just that the suspect’s weapons are terrible😂

[earnest phoenix]

i usually wedge the front & back enterances and enter through the left side door, clear the kitchen/workers area and then the reataurant and store

[plush pebble]

I don't understand people who whine about 60 fps not being enough like 60 fps vs 3500 fps i don't see a damn difference apart from the gameplay being buggy as hell.

[sudden marsh]

if you're on a 144-240 hz monitor you can see 144 fps and 240 fps, and trust me its a night and day difference

if you been on 60 hz for a while, yeah it wont be much until you physically see it yourself

[compact sequoia]

60hz is now permanently ruined for me

can confirm

[plush pebble]

I don't know but the difference between 60 fps and 240 fps is basically negligible for my purposes

[shy pike]

Game rarely runs at 60 FPS on some maps