👮ron-discussion

[astral siren]

But yeah no so after S rank elephant, I finally have medal of valor

Only took me like a week to get it and then two days of grinding elephant for good RNG

Check #🎨ron-screenshots-and-art I'm about to upload all 4 maps for VotD

[mellow valve]

so armorer veteran kicker and paramedic?

[dreamy garden]

2nd floor is so confusing

Never struggled with understanding it in a 3d way but 2d is confusing

I know volls office is middle right

oh wait the outside lounge thing is top

[astral siren]

Or you can go double armorer instead of kicker, Veteran is good for the better aim, paramedic is good to keep your dudes alive. If you just roll battering rams or C2 you can ignore kicker

[astral siren]

Yeah no it’s pretty weird and some of them are oriented not from the direction you breach in at the top floor

[jolly verge]

Double armorer do nothing, and make sure all traits in locked state because after you unlock them it's will stop working

[mellow valve]

Would be funny if I could run quad paramedic

[astral siren]

That’s actually one strat for ironman no officer deaths run lol

[mellow valve]

Wait, I thought traits weren't stackable?

Anyways since apparently mono paramedic is a strat

Are there any metas?

[astral siren]

I thought traits were stackable

[mellow valve]

Run mono veteran to make your swat officers on crystal meth

[astral siren]

Oh some of the traits stack and others don’t

[mellow valve]

yeah that makes sense i guess

Quad intimidator?

[astral siren]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3118547658

[rocky plover]

paramedic does stack but i dont really like that trait tbh, also for the ones that stack i suggest not more than 2 cos the returns you get for 3 and 4 of the same trait is not worth it

[mellow valve]

CERAMIC ARMORER META

[astral siren]

the guide i linked shows how the traits stack (at least as of december) so more details in there

[mellow valve]

READY OR NOT IS NOW AN RPG

[astral siren]

Pretty much lol, plus if you get hit with steel plates then it can spall, if you do that it’ll still damage you a bit + has a chance of hitting one of your teammates if you’re close enough (i think)

So I think the best officer loadout for a maximum lethality run would be double veteran, armorer, and kicker/breacher/intimidator, pick your poison for slot 4

[mellow valve]

fuck it, breacher?

[astral siren]

C2 flash and clear with breacher means maximum suspect morale damage ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[rocky plover]

for my the hermit and the world achievement (before the hotfixes) the best i found was 2 veteran, 1 armorer and 1 nutritionist

[mellow valve]

im more of a breaching shotgun enjoyer

[astral siren]

counterpoint: door flying and hitting some dude is funny

[mellow valve]

counterpoint

Blowing up doors at old gerald's house

[astral siren]

Im remembering that one so I can nail those eventually

[astral siren]

Mmmm speedrun strats

[rocky plover]

so basically more health, better armor, and 2 veterans which makes the AI more accurate and react faster

[mellow valve]

Shotgun to break traps

Especially the first door

[astral siren]

I always thought the shotgun would trigger it somehow, idk why

I know C2 does but if you stand back enough then it won’t hurt you

Dumbass AI tho just stand on the door and use C2, failed a lot of S-Rank brisa cove that way

[mellow valve]

I just send my AI to the staircase

Shoot the door until it becomes a window

[astral siren]

fair lmao

[mellow valve]

If you shoot open a door it will trigger a trap if you are facing the direction that triggers it if you open a door

Bait the bots with gunshots

Or stinger

[astral siren]

Ahhhh okay

[mellow valve]

im gonna listen to pumped up kicks while playing elephant

[tardy crag]

i cant get past twisted nerve bcs I havent "brought peace to chaos" or smth. Is there anything im missing

[jolly verge]

You need find last suspects, did you check tunnels?

[delicate snow]

Paid dlc year of release with bug fixes what lmao

Man these guys love money a lot

[real gorge]

are k9s talked about/planned atp?

[tardy crag]

tunnels?

oh

[timid wraith]

best non lethal?

[wooden arrow]

beanbag shotgun 🔥

[timid wraith]

[wooden arrow]

Unlessss you prefer

12 tasers

[timid wraith]

dont sound bad

[woeful egret]

lol

[stone bay]

ah yes, the free $50 steam card, sure

[vapid olive]

How the hell are you supposed to do the hanged man Achievement?

[vapid olive]

It is less lethal but ait.

[vapid olive]

VKS if u are not consistent in movement, clearing groups or aim.
Otherwise Beanbag(less lethal// meaning a headshot will give them a head trauma that makes them go snooze snooze)

[rocky plover]

let the AI kill every suspect with lethal weapons while you use only the taser and flashbangs and nothing else

[willow kraken]

They were planned very early on but got cut. Though I don't see how they'd be useful in 90% of the missions in this game. Snipers or drones are of higher priority imo

[real gorge]

they work great if the suspect isnt mentally ill

good fear tactics and they are obediant

[willow kraken]

How? They'd be shot and killed in almost every mission except ends of the earth

[real gorge]

not really, people are simply scared of K9s

why do you think swat uses them irl

or any special forces, police or not for that matter

[willow kraken]

Because the situations and suspects in RoN are simply not realistic

[hexed granite]

new features are cool and all, but Void should really focus on polishing the current stuff in game. Im not even just talking about the bugs either. more animation variation and more organic interactions would make the game more alive

[real gorge]

ehh i'd say its fine atm

[real gorge]

i agree they should have more usual situations

warrant check ups, shooter threats stuff like that

[opaque moth]

i mean it’s a pioneer in realistic tactical shooters, the devs have done a lot

they’re trying to incorporate a lot into one game it just takes time

[hexed granite]

if ur eyeing down the suspects and/or play the game long enough, u can tell the animation on when they're gonna fake surrender and pull out a gun, gets a little predictable

[hexed granite]

i agree. RON has probably the best gunplay ive seen in almost any shooter, which is REALLY good for an indie studio

[earnest phoenix]

they should bring back this in terms of animation it looks insane compared to the snappy movement now https://youtu.be/_KyHwCl0Nlw?si=3I-KMjU97yyTrV2_

[crude prism]

they've explained previously why motion matching wasn't feasible

[hexed granite]

i may have heard. but i never heard the layman technical mixed reasonn

[opaque moth]

well i mean yeah they don’t have human level intelligence, i agree that they should improve the AI but what they have right now is really impressive— i dont think i’ve seen a game that has people pulling out their cell phones or suspects faking their surrender like RoN

[earnest phoenix]

why

[opaque moth]

the 1911 is so crispy

[crude prism]

They've made multiple comments, this is just one after a quick google.

"Problem was due to AI navigation and the requirement for these animations to drive the movement speed and location separately. As such you'd have AI walking into walls and off the navmesh, or running too fast/slow which meant we couldn't calculate the final location accurately. So it was too expensive to run with lots of AI, it needed a lot more data, was harder to achieve realistic navigation, and it was less precise. When we went back to a legacy system it became easy to work on the gameplay loop, because we weren't battling our anim system at the same time. 🙂

It works and would still work for a player using a controller in third person. But that's just not our game unfortunately."

^Gruntr on redit

[muted star]

cap

[opaque moth]

i mean we’ve advanced so much in the last 20 years it’s astounding— we went from super mario 64 to capturing the tense realistic situations of RoN

[hexed granite]

ofc. ron is a unicorn, but there's always room for improvement

1 thing would be to tell a civilian to run to the exit while they're standing. its a little pace breaking to yell for complaince, theyre a little uncompliant, then they kneel down, then u can >attempt< to have them run to the exit

[hexed granite]

i had a feeling this was the case. pregenerated animations like that cultivate those kinds of bugs

[opaque moth]

i feel like sometimes the civvies are a little too uncompliant when they have a literal gun aimed at them, they should probably tweak that

[crude prism]

they tried to do motion matching for over a year back during the NDA stuff, just wasn't feasible

[opaque moth]

like i have an ar15 pointed at these people’s faces and i have to ask for compliance 5 times before they sit down

[earnest phoenix]

still hope they intend to fix suspect movement. they still snap from low ready to aiming and shooting instantly

[hexed granite]

yeah i get you. but man that vid sent looked good.

in the moment and when ur first playing the game, u can definitely glaze over how simple the npc animations are when bullets are flying at you

but once you kinda look back over the replay and/or play the game long enough, it gets a little samey

i kinda just think about RDR2 in terms of npc gunplay, how organic that all felt (inb4 AAA studio vs indie studio, yes ik)

[crude prism]

it's basically not comparable to RDR2 reasonably

[hexed granite]

1 other thing is weird is seeing a bunch of civilians standing alongside suspects like theyre just chilling. Im surprised there aren't any instances where civilians are lying face down (or even arresting variation where suspects lie down)

[hexed granite]

i know that. i just had a small mental note of what i thought of organic gunplay looked like

[earnest phoenix]

its even funnier in maps which are supposed to be active shootings lol the shooters will just chill next to a civ for multiple minutes becuse 'b-but how will i get S rank then 🥺'

[crude prism]

I guess it's a good thing that players won't ever see them standing next to eachother passively... (oops mirrorgun exists)

[opaque moth]

i remember on talent time i was trying to restrain a civilian and they pulled out their phone, called for compliance when this guy literally comes out of nowhere and starts shooting— civilian doesn’t stop filming even though they are literally being shot at, i nail the guy in the head luckily with an MPX eotech sight

[opaque moth]

i feel like civilians should at least react to shots fired instead of standing still..

at the very least

[hexed granite]

ive had that thought in my head for a bit, how the S rank pursuit can diminish the game just a bit. the school map is the biggest culprit. there was media coverage on RON because of the controversey of the school map, so it was definitely hyped up.

but it just seems more like a guarded compound then a race against time that you pretty much arleady lost

[earnest phoenix]

yeah that map pisses me off so much with how awfully it was portrayed

[native rune]

Definitely the weakest/most underwhelming map in RoN

[earnest phoenix]

i genuinely wonder if theres any other reason why the active shooters arent active other than S ranks being not possible then

[junior depot]

Ok guys - I am a newer player who is doing a blind playthrough on Ironman - made it to Elephant for the 2nd time and could use some advice on not dying lmao

[crude prism]

They chose to make it balanced for gameplay rather than tone/atmosphere

[native rune]

Except for maybe ridgeline I guess but that suffers from the technicality of being extremely small in size and scope compared to every other map

[hexed granite]

tbh, its hard to die if you already made it this far into the game

[junior depot]

Do they have Armour on? Or should I run JHP instead?

[hexed granite]

armor on

[crude prism]

As long as you're not super incompetent, it's pretty hard to die on Elephant because there's only a handful of guys

S ranking is a bit RNG tho

[hexed granite]

ridgeline was supposed to be a brick to the face if u like rushing a lot, the amount of traps is a stark contrast to previous maps

[crude prism]

trap tutorial map (it has the first traps in the campaign)

[hexed granite]

pretty much

[native rune]

To be fair I have had the game for a long time so ridgeline is no sweat at all

[junior depot]

I looked at the ground to identify a dead civvy & a guy popped out and blasted me from behind an open locker

[native rune]

But to new players I can see it

[crude prism]

I want the statistics on how many players just fucking explode because the game doesn't explain mechanics at all

Walk up to door, die for no reason, repeat

[hexed granite]

so much for that tutorial

[opaque moth]

probably shouldn’t be on iron man difficulty— maybe play with people on the discord on varied maps before you try to play on your own

you need insane reaction time

[hexed granite]

there was a lot of missed information they shouldve conveyed, like traps, ordering members on further pathways/doors, etc.

[native rune]

Half baked tutorial for a half baked release

[junior depot]

I'm not new to shooters, and enjoy the challenge and adrenaline from 1 life

[pearl thorn]

When will Blue Jeans be added to the base game?

[native rune]

When void hires the modder who did it already

[hexed granite]

yeah mods

[upbeat wadi]

i thought they're already in? i definitely remember seeing that in the customization options and i don't have supporter's

[hexed granite]

i mean, its kinda off black

https://www.nexusmods.com/readyornot/mods/3254

but yeah, gotta love the modding community to just fill in content that isn't totally necessary, but really cool to have

[opaque moth]

yeah i thought they were too i have the all customizations mod and i think i saw them

[floral osprey]

whats arguably the best assault rifle? (in your opinion)

[vestal mauve]

any tips for port hokan? it's kicking my ass

[foggy zinc]

LVAR has good recoil and 300 BLK for armour pen, if u want a good 5.56 option, i suggest the G36

[lean laurel]

Ga416

[floral osprey]

thank you, its just hard to pick one

[hardy plinth]

I think me and my friend did it using the b1301 with slugs, if you hit your shots you can very quickly wipe any opponent, near or far

[junior depot]

Mcx with muzzle brake is pretty awesome - high fire rate

What are the soft objectives on Elephant?

[foggy zinc]

no soft objectives

[hardy plinth]

[floral osprey]

combat grip, muzzle break and light?

[sturdy pawn]

ARWC with its zero god damn recoil

usually i pair that with a HK416A7 mod :3

[junior depot]

Yup - holo or acog

[floral osprey]

I wish I could run skin mods without making others install it

[sturdy pawn]

wha- what does that mean

[floral osprey]

or can I? I just never tried

[sturdy pawn]

bro-

[floral osprey]

que

[sturdy pawn]

installing mods are like the easiest shit ever

[floral osprey]

no I mean like

if I could use it in multiplayers without others also installing it

[sturdy pawn]

meh

i only play single player anyways. Randoms are stoopid at times

[floral osprey]

I play with my friend but its funny watching people do stoopid

[last spindle]

I'm not competing with anyone here.(and I don't give a f.... about it, insult my aim if that makes you feel good). I'm just saying, it worked fine before, it does'nt now. and we were 5 playing saying the same thing. We know when we hit, and when we don't. And thank you all very much, we also know what kind of ammo we carry. The game feels a bit broken. We event got shot by a guy who couldn't even see us, like, just under us, separated by a concrete floor. And As I said, never happened before last patch. So the main question is: do some people have had the same experience.(happened twice in the same map, valley of the dolls.)

[crude prism]

Does one of you guys have the zombie mod installed or something? Nothing changed with ballistics

[last spindle]

Not that I know of... 😦

[floral osprey]

whats usual armor + helmet you would use?

[last spindle]

I'm in heavy armor, but the problem is mainly: on that map, we had to shoot (and hit, to be clear), ennemies a lot. And they shot whithout line of sight. At some point it kind of became ridiculous. And RoN is not about ridiculous.

[floral osprey]

since everyone keeps saying to use like heavy + ceramic but it just doesnt seem to fit me and I just wondered if I could recieve feedback on it

[floral osprey]

ai shooting you through walls?

[last spindle]

yup

[crude prism]

I'd get vids if you're gonna make claims about the AI

there's a lot of hearsay

[last spindle]

I'll do that.

[crude prism]

its also hard to explain in text a lot of the time, vids are good for context 🙂

[last spindle]

For sure. I agree. I just did not think about it on the moment.

[floral osprey]

its kinda difficult to do anything when ai decides to shoot me through the walls

[floral osprey]

which scope was the acog again?

[shy tulip]

Real

[prime wing]

theres no acog in vanilla

only elcan and shitty lpvo

[floral osprey]

oh

[craggy yew]

Acogs cause too much tunnel vision personally

While a holosight goes very hard drip wise and you have peripheral vision

[earnest phoenix]

i run canted sight and laser 99% of the time becauee i find all scopes too obstructive

[terse merlin]

Light+ceramic gives you superb mobility, especially when you useblow/high-ready

Especially with only front and back coverage

Though I swap to front, back, sides if it's a map with a lot of angles

[vestal mauve]

I R O N S I G H T S
the one, true drip

[bitter mason]

bruh the women in the shipping container have voice lines, that I assume you just cant hear normally in game lol
Though it seems to just be one that repeats on occasion

[whole wedge]

would we ever get outfit saves like with gear sets

[worthy grove]

Just had my first encounter with 'the watchmen' its like they are some notorious cult which recruits off RoN, inactivity kick would be good to add to the game

[prime wing]

https://tenor.com/view/clone-clones-buzz-lightyear-toy-story-gif-21609842

[real pulsar]

anyone else get frame drops

[frail quartz]

I LOVE BEING ABLE TO SEE WHAT I'M AIMING AT RAAAHHHHH!!!!

[dark gyro]

motherfucking bombs bro

[mellow valve]

I love the placement of the ready or not campaign missions

[lethal sparrow]

No matter what, I will NEVER maintain my ROE.

Change my mind on why I should.

[shy tulip]

Because of this ratio

[tough spire]

You gave yourself the L.

[vestal mauve]

Fallen behind me

[shadow ether]

That holiday shirt for S ranking the voll mansion

[lethal sparrow]

oh

changed my mind Hands 250K

[vestal mauve]

We need more cosmetics tbh

[lethal sparrow]

fr

[vestal mauve]

And more guns

[shadow ether]

Fortunately we have mods

[shadow ether]

Unfortunately we don't have that many mods that add guns
Mostly they are replacers

I would absolutely love some more bullpups though

Famas, aug, vhs2, there's lots of goodies to choose from

[vestal mauve]

We have the 5-7 but where's the F2000

[shadow ether]

Isn't f90 basically that?

[vestal mauve]

No the F90 derives from the AUG

[shadow ether]

Huh

The guns in this game, I swear

[vestal mauve]

Also need headphones as an optional visual

Some helmets don't have them and I think itd be cool to have no helmet but a pair on

[shadow ether]

There is a mod for that

It also adds caps

[tough spire]

That thing that never made it anywhere outside of Splinter Cell? Agreed

[vestal mauve]

hell yea
gimme my sam fisher cosplay

[tough spire]

Ring airfoil or whatever they called it underslung launcher for LTL runs

[dark gyro]

How many explosives are there in Elephant

[vale tangle]

2

[dark gyro]

wrong

there's 3

[tough spire]

Depends on how many shots are fired.

[shy tulip]

For sure varies

[tough spire]

So it's # of bombs + # of explosions from shells being fired + one last big one when we have our orgasmic release for finally finding all the people hiding.

[fallow sage]

Will Void go for Steam Deck verified at some point?

Valve seems to have tested it as Playable already

[upbeat wadi]

yo so i had a random maybe-possibly-whoknows thought about that soft objective to shut the door on hide & seek

so we know the cult that hang aroun the vineyard was started by an ex-usia woman, and she's apparently the leader

there's apparently a popular lore-as-a-whole analysis that the government, or rather usia specifically or rogue elements within it, are trying to synthesize the Perfect Lawman via fucked up experiments

could it be?......

oh and this is really really reaching but: remember the eve audio log by ghillie suit man? the other big deal lady in the cult in that mission is called eve

and the briefing says she went missing a long long time ago, what i'm getting at is what if ghillie suit man was involved in her kidnapping and brainwashing

[mellow valve]

Sins of the Father is terrifying not because of it's aesthetics but it's literally Brisa Cove 2

I lost a whole element already

[upbeat wadi]

oh fuck that mission man, the one that took me by far the most attempts

[mellow valve]

Checkin' in though

[lost inlet]

Hello beautiful people of RON community what should we discuss today?

[shy tulip]

If coffee cannonically makes you faster then cocaine gives you super powers

[upbeat wadi]

wow so everyone just looked at my lore bit and went 🤨 and tactfully ignored it
fine!

[tough spire]

Sooooo I am interested in the modded maps, but it says "subscription failed" when I click on it. Do I need to not use the in-game browser?

[upbeat wadi]

the consensus is avoid the ingame mod thing, use nexus manual download

[tough spire]

Ahhh okay. Thank you.

[mellow valve]

maybe FISA is trying to stop the carriers of the vine from getting to the women

[upbeat wadi]

how would the carriers "get to them" except by basically advertising themselves to victims of abuse and assault?

[mellow valve]

i thought the carriers themselves were victims of abuse by their husbands or some shit

[upbeat wadi]

here's an even more batshit what-if i just thought of: what if usia were one of the buyers at that auction

[mellow valve]

its not known why a fisa agent was at greased palms

[upbeat wadi]

yes, and then they came to the cult cause they'd heard it's a place where women like them can go for support and safety

[mellow valve]

exactly what i was going to say

[sturdy pawn]

honestly the FISA and USIA seem to be more goofy evil in RoN

[mellow valve]

greased palms is connected to the firearms situation

[upbeat wadi]

and their lot was the women in that container, so they basically didnt want to lose it twice

[sturdy pawn]

The suspects we fight are Russian mafia

[mellow valve]

they seem more like trained russian mercenaries

[sturdy pawn]

if anything

the Russian mafia has more ties with the Kremlin than the White House

[mellow valve]

the russians in Hide and Seek have more of a militant design

[upbeat wadi]

what does that have to do with anything, i'm saying what if USIA was buying that containerful of trafficked women at the auction in the back there

[mellow valve]

I'd say they are mercs

[upbeat wadi]

as a sneaky untraceable way of getting test subjects for their cartoon villain shit

[sturdy pawn]

meh

i didn't really like that part

[mellow valve]

old man gerard was part of usia right

[sturdy pawn]

the FISA Commander also can't be more suspiscious

[upbeat wadi]

yes, and the lady running the carriers of the vine too

[sturdy pawn]

Like just say "There's nothing we can do now, close back the container doors to stop them from wandering around."

[mellow valve]

was storyline was gerard apart of

the smuggling, the meth, or the CP/trafficking?

[upbeat wadi]

yeah lmao he really didnt handle it very smoothly

[sturdy pawn]

Close the dooors >:((((

[upbeat wadi]

i mean it was a joint op between a million agencies anyway right? and fisa was one of them

[mellow valve]

Trailers:

BDRTAC, FISA and LSPD i believe

[sturdy pawn]

LSPD on their way to "leak" the helmet cam of 5 SWAT Officers to create the biggest fucking scandal ever:

[upbeat wadi]

just have some of those fisa people already somewhere nearby go there, flash their ID and go "we'll take it from here, this is our crime scene"

[sturdy pawn]

the trailers are notified, but they won't be coming.

It's why we zip tie civilians, stop them from running around the place.

[mellow valve]

magnet crane the whole container to the trailers

[upbeat wadi]

the left behind (angry veteran paramilitary), but he's not really strongly connected to any group

[upbeat wadi]

half life 2 type thinking

[sturdy pawn]

Not really, Gerald's his own thing.

Gerald's about the USIA and their super-uber agent and what not.

[mellow valve]

gerard seems to try to be hunting down judge and the boys themselves

hence why "they wouldnt come to me, so i came to them"

[sturdy pawn]

And Judge is apparently "Him", mf's a USIA Sleeper Agent in the department

[upbeat wadi]

i thought he basically broke off of them when he went too loopy even for them

[mellow valve]

"them" could be judge and co.

[sturdy pawn]

mostly only judge.

[fallow sage]

we are all judge, we're him.

[mellow valve]

i am judge, the ready of not.

[fallow sage]

real

[sturdy pawn]

It's kinda funny thinking about how Judge is just pulling some insane CIA Ground Branch type shit in a mission while his team's just watching like .-.

[upbeat wadi]

i dont buy that one tbh, why would they even need a sleeper agent in a precinct they obviously control pretty much completely

[sturdy pawn]

No clue, but it's on what of the evidence lockers

[fallow sage]

just remember the LSPD doesn't know where and who judge really is, guy's a ghost, and Gerard has seen him in "training"

[mellow valve]

judge is a senior officer and obviously has experience for a long time, hinted by the old man gerard and the disgruntled veterans' home and also the training officer

[sturdy pawn]

They have someone in the department keeping eyes on "Him."

[upbeat wadi]

what are you basing the part about lspd not knowing about him on? pls dont say the prealpha bio, that's obviously obsolete ten times over

[wispy mural]

Judge is literally me

[mellow valve]

the reason why judge can come back to life in commander mode is because of his ties in the usia dropouts 🧌

[fallow sage]

Nah I'd win

[wispy mural]

He's literally Officer KD6-3.7 from Bladerunner 2049 and the Driver from Drive

[mellow valve]

the La La Man from La La Land

(i do not know the name of the character, i only know he's play by ryan gosling_

[fallow sage]

also useless Judge Lore: he apparently knows how to play the piano

[mellow valve]

time to touch up on your piano skills judge

[upbeat wadi]

and gerard could see him in training in a million of different contexts, such as they both served in the military at the same time, or they both went to spook school together, or they even served on the same police force before gerard got tapped by the usia and judge stayed on to become the last swat team leader in town

[fallow sage]

and Swan apparently knows guitars too

[mellow valve]

Judge and Co. should start a band

[upbeat wadi]

he wears a red bandana
he plays meeeean piano
in a cop precinct
down in los sueños

[fallow sage]

they gotta raise funds for the department one way or another

[mellow valve]

playing in the los seunos metro

[upbeat wadi]

i think that ship has sailed at the time the games set lmao, isnt it basically said somewhere that the tac team are practically volunteers

[mellow valve]

the reason you hear soundtracks in combat mid-game is because judge also hears it, the trailer cops are actually king, swan, eli and prescott if you are in commander mode and they're pulling out tactical violins and basslines

[upbeat wadi]

but i got a name idea for their band:

drop d platoon

[mellow valve]

the precinct is a railroad museum

[upbeat wadi]

you're playing as their footage edited for aspect ratio and scored

[fallow sage]

isn't D platoon canonically what is on Practice Mode?

[mellow valve]

i do not know if Judge and Co. (king swan eli and prescott) are actually canon but they actually might be, but commander mode exists so

[sturdy pawn]

But gerald wouldn’t have such a big interest in him unless he is somehow tied to the USIA

All other scenarios you mentioned just makes him a local swat officer if anything

[upbeat wadi]

yeah but that kind of thing actually happens, city administrations will take a defunct building they nominally own and give it to whatever new government agency or organization needs an hq

[mellow valve]

raskin, gerard and david are all USIA dropouts thats why

[sturdy pawn]

It doesnt make him stand out to anyone else except maybe he’s naturally good at CQB

[mellow valve]

early access precinct lmao

[upbeat wadi]

more like abandonware precinct really

[fallow sage]

early access pecinct be like: we have a subway, take it or leave it

[upbeat wadi]

and abandoned in v 0.4

[upbeat wadi]

who's raskin

and david for that matter

[mellow valve]

raskin is the carriers of the vine leader

adn david is judge

[upbeat wadi]

right, yeah
i actually remembered that like five seconds after asking

[mellow valve]

dementia

[upbeat wadi]

how is it known that david is his name?

[fallow sage]

its the USIA meds

[mellow valve]

the USIA amnestics

[fallow sage]

its finally getting to him

[mellow valve]

development briefing no 63

[upbeat wadi]

alright smartasses let's see YOU have slime injected in your eyes and then remember who a raskin or a david is!

[fallow sage]

idk they're the same to my SLR47

[mellow valve]

idk man i just switch to full auto and start blasting

[upbeat wadi]

why would you run the worst gun in the armory

[mellow valve]

AK platform

who doesnt want to use a beautiful firearm

[fallow sage]

"worst"? you mean "skill issue?"

[upbeat wadi]

yes
there's a good fuckin reason m4s and scars are what elite units get in the ukrainian army

it's that despite what the memes will tell you the AK is actually kinda garbage and its biggest advantages by far are 1. cheap, 2. can teach a peasant to use one in like a day

[mellow valve]

and children even use it

[upbeat wadi]

and arming peasants in uprisings all over the world was exactly what it was developed for

[mellow valve]

the ak platform is basically reliable simplicity

lets go back to the judge and co. usia dropouts discussion

[fallow sage]

My results speak for themselves I have mostly A ranks with that thing

[upbeat wadi]

much harder to teach a similar group -- untrained, never seen a gun more recent than like a lee enfield or something, cant afford to spend a million hours at the range -- to use an m16

[junior depot]

Mk16, MCX & GA416 are great

[upbeat wadi]

ten four

[mellow valve]

anyways

[fallow sage]

I'm still very partial to HK416 though, I love the short stroke piston

[mellow valve]

what do we know about gerard's agenda

[fallow sage]

What we only know is the guy is very smart and wants Judge to "see" something, what it is, is something that we don't fully understand yet

[mellow valve]

he's a senile oldman with most likely ptsd

also why are the veterans in brisa cove not that old for 2025

[fallow sage]

you don't need to be that old to be a Veteran tbh

you just need to have served in the armed forces, from what it looks like they must have been discharged honorably, or lost a part of themselves from serving, that's why they got violent when veteran support for them got cut

knowing the IRL VA which is apparently shitty as well, this would push anyone to the brink especially when some of these veterans rely on government support to survive

[wispy mural]

Brisa Cove vets didn't do anything wrong

[tough spire]

Except for domestic terrorism, obviously.

[upbeat wadi]

wish women agreed with you, id have a much easier life

[fallow sage]

😔

[vestal mauve]

Raskin and Gerard are formerly USIA
Judge MIGHT be active USIA, he might be former USIA, he might be affiliated in some way, we don't know
The prealpha info is of dubious canon, like the ARG

[wispy mural]

Obviously, fuck the senator for cutting the VA's funds RAHHHHHH 🦅 🇺🇸 🦅

[fallow sage]

they could've just shot the senator and it's a done deal

but nooo they have to go the extra mile

[upbeat wadi]

it's a pretty common belief in the community that the world of ready or not is kinda significantly different from ours in major ways like the vietnam war (apparently US won it or at the very least it didn't go the way it did in our timeline). if that's true it follows the wars US has been involved in since then wouldn't be 100% the same either, so maybe there was some war recently that was also clearly worse than anything the US has been in since vietnam

[fallow sage]

What we do know is USIA knows him, and it seems he also knows them too

[mellow valve]

gerard was in vietnam right

[upbeat wadi]

i wish this game was that cool

and i dont see how, if US wins vietnam then if anything it would end sooner than it did not later

[mellow valve]

i like how the game doesnt actually have cutscenes, half life 2 type shit mentality

[upbeat wadi]

it will eventually

[fallow sage]

I think it follows SWAT4's design with environmental storytelling

[vestal mauve]

If Judge is gonna be a USIA op, he'd probably be a Special Activities Center operative, which means he's former Special Forces on top of regular military and police training
If Judge is his apparent age of early-mid thirties he's almost like a Resident Evil protagonist in terms on unrealistic skills for his age

[upbeat wadi]

says so on the roadmap

but yeah the environmental storytelling stuff is cool cool

[vestal mauve]

meaning, you can load up Ground Branch and play as Judge too

[fallow sage]

I'm him

[upbeat wadi]

why? i dont think swat operatives are very often much younger than that actually, it just takes a LONG time to get in. and for a team leader, add a few more years on top of even that

OH you meant the other way round, you meant it's unrealistic as in no way he's done all that shit at just 35

[vestal mauve]

depends if Judge actually ran through the necessary 3-5 years on patrol to qualify, or if D-Platoon is his very first SWAT team and USIA just assumed he'd figure it out

[mellow valve]

USIA just went let him cook

[vestal mauve]

maybe they planted him on SWAT and made up some cover story, i dunno

[upbeat wadi]

kinda feels a swat team lead would be a sergeant or even detective sergeant, not just a dude who's put in his 5 years in traffic police

[fallow sage]

We can use the LAPD SWAT qualifications as a basis, since LSPD is p much LA

[vestal mauve]

but given the USIA's ability to fake a ton of shit, there's the ambiguity
and if he's legit than the guy is speedrunning every Tier 1 operator sidequest in life lol

[mellow valve]

yeah no i agree LSPD is literally just LA

[upbeat wadi]

and well yeah, it's not uncommon at all for such people to come from a military background, i think it's actually kinda the default

[mellow valve]

truly a David "Judge" Beaumont moment

[vestal mauve]

fucken Eli and Prescott look older than Judge does and he's leading them
something fishy is definitely afoot

[fallow sage]

We literally have no idea who he is, not even a backstory like those officers in Commander Mode

[mellow valve]

i thought they were his buddies since some war

[upbeat wadi]

well they're not as talented as he is then
have you never had bosses younger than you

[mellow valve]

he is the protagonist after all, we might get the chance to learn about him through enviromental storytelling since he is also meant to be a self insert

[vestal mauve]

I'm operating under the assumption that he has a legit military background, went to the USIA, and got inserted into the LSPD
cuz its fun

[mellow valve]

we dont know if judge's real name is actually his real name though

[fallow sage]

knowing D Platoon in Practice Mode looks like hardened military veterans, yeah I can assume they also have the same ambiguity as Judge

[vestal mauve]

Honestly Judge is just #builtdifferent and makes a good leader seeing as he wipes out entire terrorist cells and doesn't stress it

[fallow sage]

They don't act like most of the officers in Commander Mode

[mellow valve]

Full auto on

so you're saying is Practice Mode is also canon?

Practice mode is literally just Judge bringing his pals along to SWAT?

[fallow sage]

Practice Mode is the canon D Platoon in my headcanon

[upbeat wadi]

damn now we're getting layered
careful we don't find ourselves wearing ghetto ghillie suits and not even knowing how we got there

[mellow valve]

none of us are usia dropouts born in 1947

[vestal mauve]

Judge and friends are actually cosplayers and this whole thing got way out of hand

[mellow valve]

relax

[fallow sage]

I hear USIA recruits agents from people that figure out who Judge is

[mellow valve]

Judge and CO. are actually just very good airsofters who somehow got recruited by the LSPD

And the USIA is investigating how the fuck he got into a platoon

[upbeat wadi]

well none as far as you know

[mellow valve]

It could be YOU, it COULD BE ME

[fallow sage]

Deploying Chemlight

[mellow valve]

i actually forget to use chemlights 24/7

[upbeat wadi]

yep
the lspd headhunters thought the "recon" in the name of the facebook group they were all members of meant something different

[vestal mauve]

Kim Light and George M are the two best members of D Platoon

[mellow valve]

dropping a kimlight

[fallow sage]

Commander Mode officer dialogue: "Do you still think there's no such thing as monsters?"
Practice Mode dialogue: "....Christ."

[upbeat wadi]

also isnt D platoon a fudged name? companies get named A, B, C and so on, platoons are first through third

[vestal mauve]

what i find interesting is that judge doesn't even know TOC personally, not even a name
he even says "put the other guy on" when speaking to FISA in Port Hokan

[mellow valve]

Regular LSPD Swat Officers vs Judge and Co.

[vestal mauve]

nope, D Platoon is the actual original name of LAPD's SWAT team

[hexed granite]

👆

[mellow valve]

"we'll talk about this later" FISA and Judge know each other

[fallow sage]

again, Practice Mode officers + Judge are super calm and composed, as if they've seen dark shit before already

[upbeat wadi]

ohh
okay, guess lapd conventions arent the same as the military's

[fallow sage]

something is very up

[mellow valve]

Judge and Co. are very grizzled veterans, they just block the thoughts by thinking it's ketchup.

[upbeat wadi]

ehhh stands to reason fisa would debrief them when the raid was pertinent to a fisa case, which that one certainly was

[fallow sage]

"No we won't" - they definitely know each other

[mellow valve]

And you know by Gerard's stalker fanclub that Judge and Co. all worked together

[vestal mauve]

i think that's referring to the FISA team lead also being the guy who briefs you at the beginning, Judge was expecting to encounter him again

[upbeat wadi]

oh my they DATED

[fallow sage]

😭

[mellow valve]

only in california

[fallow sage]

hey man LSPD has diversity goals in the department

[upbeat wadi]

they're very progressive out there, out west

[hexed granite]

i dont think theres definite evidence that judge and FISA know each other ||they secrely kiss in the lips||

[upbeat wadi]

-- wizard the cab driver

[hexed granite]

but definiyely judge and the USIA are up to something

[vestal mauve]

this game's lore is fucking sick ngl
cant wait until the ARG stuff gets brought in

and this game has like, zero cutscenes and one interaction at the very end of the game that gives the player any character

[hexed granite]

i kinda miss the fake cops from old hotel, definitely brought an unexpected dynamic into the mix when u dont communicate with ur coop friends

[vestal mauve]

old hotel was the shit
miss it

[mellow valve]

the protagonist is judge and even his lore is in the enviromental storytelling

[fallow sage]

I like #👮ron-discussion at one point were glazing Swan, and now we're glazing Judge and his FISA twink

[hexed granite]

judge seems a little awkward

"put the other guy back on, we'll talk later"

felt like that could've been said differently

[fallow sage]

things you can say at work and at bed too

[mellow valve]

"other guy" yeah judge and toc just have a very professional relationship

[vestal mauve]

if you iced an entire meth den and didn't react, i'd assume you're socially stunted too tbh

[hexed granite]

most cops just desensitized to most violence (in the moment at least)

[mellow valve]

if you iced an entire meth den and didnt snort anything i'd say you're a coward

[fallow sage]

The thing is even Commander Mode officers were reacting pretty much to everything in Twisted Nerve, not in practice mode D platoon

[hexed granite]

oh is that a baby floating face down in a tub? oh okay

[vestal mauve]

bruh i cratered a dude's face and IRL I almost had a crisis moment
shit is fucken gruesome

[mellow valve]

Commander mode is meant to give the officers a little bit more characterized

[fallow sage]

every single practice mode mission is much more calmer than the usual commander mode mission

[hexed granite]

gore 🤯

[mellow valve]

Judge and Co. are more experienced than the LSPD, that's why

[vestal mauve]

yeah your average beat cop isn't shooting meth heads by the dozen every day
they drive around and ticket you for having bad plates

[fallow sage]

Also some Brisa Cove dialogue kinda solidifies this, in commander mode, they would react quite negatively

King in practice mode is like "Guess that's one way to make a statement"

[mellow valve]

what were judge and co doing in vietnam

[vestal mauve]

reenacting the battle from Tropic Thunder

[fallow sage]

your average cop doesn't have access to 7.62x39 too as a service rifle

[mellow valve]

who was wearing blackface

[fallow sage]

(We don't talk about Alaska and their AKs though, that's a different thing)

[mellow valve]

Texan cops

[vestal mauve]

Judge
He temporarily became Judge Fudge

[fallow sage]

I'm Judge. I'm Him.

[vestal mauve]

Fallen behind me

[mellow valve]

I am Judge. The ready of all nots, the Platoon of all Ds.

[fallow sage]

Also is it me or is Mindjot a more sinister reflection of Reddit

[mellow valve]

They made 4chan a fucking plot point

[vestal mauve]

It's a weirdo combination of Reddit and LinkedIn

also a reference to MindGeek

[fallow sage]

it worked. Double the defense budget.

[mellow valve]

Deploy D. Platoon with all the armaments we have.

[vestal mauve]

could D Platoon survive Five Nights At Freddy's?

[mellow valve]

Wed that door!

[fallow sage]

who needs to keep watch on the mechatronics

nothing a good ol' C2 can't fix

[mellow valve]

breaching shotgun

[fallow sage]

My semi-automatic Benelli M4 with Slugs

[tawny scroll]

🫵🏽🤨 no one told oakley gloves mod dropped

[fallow sage]

Oakleys? man just get the nymex fr

[tawny scroll]

•~• 10-4

[prime wing]

good renders carry the game

unironically

promotional stuff just blows the game but thats to be expected

[upbeat wadi]

operation sacred sword of the patriots, but this time it worked cause of their ingenious perfidy

[mellow valve]

Y'know

Elephant doesn't fit in the story of ready or not

They could've made it about volatile kids having access to drugs and guns after poor experiences or some shit

[frigid warren]

Do you guys think a crowbar might be a cool thing to have just for it being there

[mellow valve]

Crowbar to pry open doors or smth?

I know it's probably a half life 2 reference too

[frigid warren]

yeah really seeing price using that back in 2019 was nice

we don't really have a lot of mechanical breaching

it'll open like a peek but without the loudness of a ram

[urban walrus]

There is an unused Halligan breaching animation that they showcased

[urban walrus]

It's still loud tho https://youtu.be/7vLDCJk3wNk?si=c00siHS7y9RA45xt

[earnest phoenix]

god please no

fuck lore we need more random unconnected maps

[mellow valve]

Actually I see your point

Many crimes go unconnected

[earnest phoenix]

i will never forgive them for scrapping fast food because "it didnt fit the lore"

[prime wing]

i think its funny at least the thought process

ok lets make a fast food map

then halfway through

wait...

https://tenor.com/view/omg-ohmygod-realization-suddenrealization-woah-gif-5806250

[humble mauve]

there were like 2 storylines it went through judging by its description/game files

one just like a straight up los pollos hermanos reference and one being a hostage/shooting situation

[neon forge]

HI, MY NAME IS GUSTAVO FRINGE, BUT YOU CAN CALL ME GUS. AND WELCOME TO THE LOS POLLOS HERMANOS FAMILY.

[mellow valve]

Meth bust and link it to 213

[terse merlin]

that's Gas Station

[mellow valve]

it was a breaking bad joke

[ionic tiger]

How did this happen?

[lost inlet]

Thinks i found a russian civi dress as an worker some sort so i thought thats link to port hoken mission

[earnest phoenix]

are there any reuploads of that map like there were with the hotel btw i cant find anything and id love to play it again

[mellow valve]

is there a checkin' in reupload

[earnest phoenix]

i swear there was but i cant find it now

https://www.nexusmods.com/readyornot/mods/2691 it apparently doesnt work after 1.0

[sharp fox]

noo my amazing idea got deleted

😔😔

[junior depot]

I died on Rust belt and lost my Ironman save file 😦 gun jammed in the tunnels and I had no hard cover so I just died trying to clear the jam

Cool feature, happens too often though

[midnight dagger]

Hello, how can I reset the game to zero as if it were the first time I played? (games, unlocked items, etc.)

[mellow valve]

Do practice mode officers not shoot you if you shoot a civie for shits and giggles?

[dim cairn]

They shoot you if you do it twice iirc

Or if you shoot one of them too many times

[plucky sage]

Gun jam? This isn't in the base game, is it?

[mellow valve]

also

Is it a 100 iq speedrun tactic for levels to C2 a door with a civie behind it to get rid of the rescue all civies objective?

[stark hollow]

gun jams are not a feature

not sure what happened to you there

[mellow valve]

probably swapped to a 2 round mag LMAO

[tacit gull]

It's called running out of ammo

[stark hollow]

that is the most likely

[dim cairn]

I have a shitty mouse so I can simulate jams that way lmao

But yeah, probably ran out of ammo

[earnest phoenix]

guns cant jam ❓ ❓

[craggy yew]

Hot fix by VOID my inside man told me

[kindred temple]

this isnt tarkov

[tacit gull]

modded rust belt into tarkov

Either that or its a REALLY high brow joke that i just got

[plucky sage]

Mouse jammed

[copper cypress]

Will breaking down doors affect the morale of suspects and civilians?

[terse merlin]

yes

there's even an AI SWAT trait dedicated to that

[copper cypress]

!!!

So opening the door = not lowering morale, but not significantly affecting the alertness of other suspects nearby?

[terse merlin]

Essentially yes

[copper cypress]

Okay, thanks

[soft arrow]

i saw there is a m14 at the station, is there any way i can get that?

[earnest phoenix]

only if you download the sniper or not mod

[fallow sage]

I feel like we should get more drug best ops, especially it's california

I NEED MY BREAKING BAD OR NOT

[neon forge]

a

[mellow valve]

probably modded rust belt into stalker anomaly, original poster probably forgot to repair or clean his gun before going into the tunnels.

[mellow valve]

CHAT

Wouldn't it be funny If I replaced the relapse soundtrack with the dealership soundtrack?

[craggy yew]

Wish the combat themes were a smidge more unique

I can’t think of any of the combat tracks that sticks with me personally

[tacit gull]

I think penthouse's combat and importer's combat are actually pretty good imo

[stone bay]

i never looked at my chemistry teacher the same way again
(Hes gay and a twink)

[craggy yew]

Listening to them now I’m enjoying valley of the dolls ost

[fallow sage]

what did he mean by this

[celest maple]

all speed run leaderboards should be S Rank required 😲

[craggy yew]

This guy in my weightlifting class has the thank you come again fit on

[vernal bane]

There is a subcategory for S%

C2 would take too long

[mellow valve]

any% and i dont want to rescue civies

[copper cypress]

I just met a suspect on a certain map who came out of the closet with a knife, but she didn't attack me or surrender. Is this a bug?

[mellow valve]

are you talking about acorns

[copper cypress]

Although I successfully used the stun gun to get her to surrender lol

[hardy plinth]

Oh she can kill you

Happened to me, I was pissed

[copper cypress]

She stood still holding the knife. Teammates told her to surrender.

[hardy plinth]

I assume it's the lady in the white dress on Valley of the Dolls right?

[copper cypress]

The third level

[vernal bane]

Twisted Nerve (Park Homes)

[hardy plinth]

Ooh the one with the crackheads

[vernal bane]

Yes it’s possible to get knifed to death

[hardy plinth]

Haven't had that happen but yeah civilians can kill you

[mellow valve]

you can get punched to death by daniela voll

[copper cypress]

Can heavy body armor protect against knife injuries?

[vernal bane]

Sometimes suspects don’t act for a little bit, kind of watching what you would do

If you don’t yell for compliance they can attack

[hardy plinth]

I once had a suspect in a suit pull out a comically large knife on me

[vernal bane]

They’ll only protect you so much

You can just die to being shanked if no one is there to help you

[hardy plinth]

Just wear stab vest!!!!!!!111!!1!

[vernal bane]

When suspects are up close and personal, it’s hard to maneuver your gun

[vernal bane]

Stab vest gives no armor points

[craggy yew]

Happens to our friends across the pond too much

[hardy plinth]

I know lol

[vernal bane]

DON’T use stab vest

[hardy plinth]

what he means is use stab vest

[copper cypress]

I did it, and I did the same after one suspect was asked to surrender by four of my other teammates. Turns out he chose to shoot me instead of the closest one.

[jolly verge]

nope, stabvest doesn't protect from any melee either

[craggy yew]

False advertising fr fr

[copper cypress]

Ok, sounds like a bug. Just have to wait for it to be fixed lol

[hardy plinth]

Welcome to ready or not

[copper cypress]

😆

[ionic gale]

Day 1369975…

The G36C still does not have a holographic sight and I’m this close to losing my mind

[mellow valve]

Real

[ionic gale]

I mean in real life doesn’t the weird knight armament iron sights…

they should be able to mount a holographic site

I would really like to use this weapon as like my main rifle

But at least in vanilla I don’t think you can mount the ELEOTEC

If there’s somehow any 1.0+ mods that do this, I would really like to know because I want to use this very cool German rifle

[tacit gull]

Just use the SRO or something, it has some really good sights despite not having the holo

[muted star]

Holo on g36 is damn good lookin

It even has it's position set so you just need to add it in weapons blueprint

[kindred temple]

Use ironsights 🗿

[dreamy garden]

waiting months to a year for it

or, it it says that it got fixed, but in reality the problem still persists or just got worse

the cycle of ready or not bugs

[celest maple]

Judge Dredd rules

[mellow valve]

David Judge Beaumont moment

[hardy plinth]

It's kiiinda fair as it's sorta the best lower calliber gun but yeah I really don't like red-dot

[waxen grove]

Hope we get the modding sdk before 1.1 and dlc 1

[ionic gale]

That’s the only optic I’ll use on that gun

[waxen grove]

Not holding my breath tho

[ionic gale]

Wdym? :o

[tacit gull]

I SERIOUSLY doubt it

[waxen grove]

Im starting to lose hope that one is even coming in the first place

[ionic gale]

What is SDK? ;-:

[tacit gull]

Source Development Kit, it's basically tools to let you handle the game however you like instead of doing it the hacky way people currently are doing

[vocal night]

does the mask on cultists act as armor?

on carriers of the vine

[jolly verge]

nope

[ionic gale]

Ohhh oky Tnx

Is there any examples on what that could be used for?

[ionic gale]

I’m guessing people could probably make their own weapons… maybe like have it easier time of making custom clothing….

does it basically help modders like having an easier time putting their mods in and also giving them more options on what to mod

[sturdy pawn]

this game will need modders if it wants to have a long replayability

in this current state, definitely.

[ionic gale]

Ye

I love modding this game

[sturdy pawn]

so, I'm hoping Void allows modders to go crazy

[ionic gale]

In fact, any game like this that I could mod I would like

[ionic gale]

Payday two was like the first game that I ever put mods in

I haven’t played that game in a while though it’s been like a year ;-;

It’s sitting in my steam library

[ionic gale]

Honestly, if I had any modding experience for games like this I would definitely go crazy, but

I never done coding and I’m guessing texture work would be a pain in the ass

I’m also guessing I gotta pay subscriptions and stuff like that for like blender or whatever modders used# to make their stuff

There’s a bunch of ideas that I would like to do but yeah I got no actual modding experienced and I don’t have the money to become long-term developer for mods

I mean like if you saw my melon playground mods that’s like the only type of modeling I do, but that’s like simple texture work and using the in game modding tools

But anyway, that’s my rant over

Also, by the way, here are my favorite weapons in each weapon category

Assault Rifle: G36C
Shotgun: Supernova
SMG: MP5/10
Pistol: M11 Compact
Non/Less Lethal: R7 Launcher

[vestal mauve]

Favorite long tactical?

[tacit gull]

Technically you could use it to change how AI works, to add or remove features without using IGM blueprints, it would make it easier to add new weapons without worrying about maintaining them, basically it would just be a HUGE QOL improvement for modding

[ionic gale]

I use the mirror gun

[vocal night]

mirror gun is the most useful

[ionic gale]

I like being the one to check doors and alert my team in co-op

But in solo play, I use it to like scope out a room and stuff like that

I do use the shield as like my second favorite but other than that I don’t really use any other long tactical

[vocal night]

others dont bring anything too unique to the table

[ionic gale]

Do you all remember like the Mlikor MGL being in the game?

[sturdy pawn]

mirror gun's the most useful

[ionic gale]

I think the weapon was like removed on 1.0’s release

[sturdy pawn]

either that or a shield, shields are great too

[ionic gale]

I mean, it was like a cool concept where you could have a six shot grenade launcher

I don’t know why they removed it but I’m guessing it’s because it wasn’t really used that much

[ionic gale]

I use the mirror to feel important in my team, because other than that all I do is like I guess take down some sussy-spects

lol

This game was like the first game that I actually started using my damn keyboard and mouse

like I said, I have payday 2 but I just connected a Xbox controller and played that way

My microphone is kind of crap, so I really do wish that I could like talk to other people people in game someone to probably get like a new headset I won’t be talking to any other fellow officers in lobbies ;-;

[tacit gull]

It was in the game but you couldn't reload it for whatever reason, it would also kill you most of the time cause the projectile was bugged

[ionic gale]

I mean, at least I could still use the chat box

[ionic gale]

I’m guessing it was just too bugged to keep around

[tacit gull]

They probably removed it because it kind of broke balancing

[ionic gale]

I heard some people wanting like more longer than different versions of the Glock…

[tacit gull]

Well the regular grenade launcher is still in the game and they fixed it's projectile

[ionic gale]

I mean, we have mods for that, but something ppl want like… .40 Auto guns

Like the Glock 22 is a very popular police handgun used in the US

It would be cool but I don’t think we can really mod weapon calibers yet

[tacit gull]

The game used to have a .40 s&w pistol before they removed it

[ionic gale]

What was that weapon?

I mean like 40 Smith & Wesson…

I mean, I get why the developers probably don’t want to add that because it’s maybe just too ballistically similar to .45

I don’t know but having other weapon calibers will be cool

I like Glocks a lot so seem like a full size 40 Smith and Weston one would be all right

[tacit gull]

M2011 which was sexy as shit

[ionic gale]

I mean, at least I hope that we can mod weapon calibers is better if the developers don’t want to add it

[ionic gale]

2011’s?

modern M1911s or is it a Sig Sauer gun?

[tacit gull]

Isn't 10mm close to .45 aswell?

[velvet steeple]

NO!!

[tacit gull]

It is a modernised 1911 i think yes

[ionic gale]

I mean, I heard that 10 mm can actually take down the bear and it’s used for for hunting

I mean, it’s not gonna kill a deer, but I mean like if you’re in a situation where there’s gonna be an animal charging at your arse…

I’m sure that 10 mm can get the job done

[ionic gale]

I actually do like the inclusion of 10 mm even though the MP5/10 is like the only weapon that is in it

I like unique looking guns, and that is honestly one of my most favorite to use

[tacit gull]

The recoil on it is just ridiculous imo

[ionic gale]

It’s also like one of the only submachine guns that could use burst fire even though I mostly use semi automatic for all of my weapons

[copper cypress]

Do pepper guns work on suspects with body armor?

[ionic gale]

Yeh I don’t know why why it has such high recoil

[tacit gull]

Yes, they also work on suspects with gas masks

[ionic gale]

Wait, I thought that the gas masks meant that CS based equipment in game weren’t effective with them

Especially in lethal obsession where I use the beanbag shotgun for Gerard’s little boyfriend

[vocal night]

that was probably the intention

[tacit gull]

Don't worry, the feature is in the game, it's just disabled on every map

[vocal night]

but you can gas them anyway

[ionic gale]

I mean I guess I’ll be like somewhat cool…

The fact that they’re immune to CS gas with gas masks meaning that you have to probably use other stuff in your arsenal

But yeah, I was under the impression that I had to like bring different equipment just in case there were gas mask enemies

[tacit gull]

You don't

even body armor doesn't stop beanbag rounds and even worse some suspects have body armor despite not showing any on their model

and vice versa

[ionic gale]

So my life was an entire lie?

I also like how the FBI HRT used the MP5/10

I do like to cosplay as them and if I don’t use the MK 18… then I’ll use the MP5/10 to switch it up

honestly especially with mods I do like cosplaying as different law-enforcement agencies

I have done a regular street police officer… FBI SWAT/HRT…. CTSFO… and others.

[sturdy pawn]

fun fact, there's also an M14 ingame

one of the only things really broken about it is...The ammo glitching out the mag when reloading

[ionic gale]

Yeah, I actually do have the M14 I think currently as a mod

Honestly, I think the M14 would do great in the vanilla game

[mellow valve]

Does relapse actually have soundtrack

[ionic gale]

I mean

It’s a long gun but I would like another battle rifle

[mellow valve]

m110

sr-25

[tacit gull]

Yes, but it's really quiet

[ionic gale]

Ahh oky

In general, I just like police stuff in general

The firearms, equipment, uniforms, and all that good gravy

There’s a very obvious reason why I bought this game last year lol

I just like guns in general actually lol

Planning to go to a firing range in the next couple of weeks and also I’m getting into airsoft :>

[crude prism]

there's actually something funny about this

there's 2 types of accomplices for Gerard, both have gas masks, but only one of them is immune to CS Gas

(you can still hit him with pepperballs though for stun/surrender)

[ionic gale]

I only have like one software in that is my Glock 45… it’s very beautiful and it is nice to shoot

[ionic gale]

Yeah, I noticed that there was a second accomplice in the recent version

After I killed Gerard and his boyfriend… I was very confused on why the mission didn’t end

Well, next thing, you know, I hear gunshots & my AI mates took down some other guy that I didn’t even know it was in the house

Also, yes I referred to Gerard’s first accomplice as his boyfriend bc

Why not?

[crude prism]

Gerard went out into the woods to kiss MEN

[ionic gale]

Yee

[crude prism]

RoN lore truly is something

[ionic gale]

Honestly, when cosplaying as a police officer, I obviously go for the Glock

The M11 is my second choice because I know that some departments issue Sig Sauer series of pistols

I love Glocks so much that like I said before I have a airsoft version of it

I also go for the Beretta because Italian weapons are cool

I actually like a lot of weapons actually but that’s like a different topic for another day

My first airsoft gun, and my only one for right now is a GEN 5 Glock 45

[crude prism]

I wish the compensators on the glocks weren't hideous in-game lmao

[ionic gale]

it’s only the stock version right now since I don’t have the cash to really mod it but it’s still beautiful

[ionic gale]

Oh yeah I do see what you mean. They do look kind of silly.

My gun did actually cost a ton because I decided to buy the actual elite force version

So basically has a bunch of Glock markings and it’s not a random company that has their own markings

I’m guessing some of you own airsoft guns, or even real steel firearms lol

[crude prism]

Some people who own guns play RoN? Oh dear /s

[stone bay]

do yall use any ai mods or mods in general?

[ionic gale]

I use a lot of mods & only one AI improvement mod

[stone bay]

whats the mod? For ai

[tacit gull]

I recommend figtree's here i come AI realistic mod pack

[stone bay]

what exsctly does it do

[ionic gale]

It’s just a mod .io AI overhaul mod that I randomly downloaded from the integrated Mod.io client in game

[stone bay]

mk

[tacit gull]

Don't use mod.io

[ionic gale]

Customization unlocked.. that so mod and CQC map, or like the only ones I have form mod .io

[stone bay]

why?

[ionic gale]

Yeah, I know I use Nexus mods but I just like decided to be lazy and use the mod.io client

[tacit gull]

It's broken, not only can the mods just straight up not work but unsubscribing to them does not remove them from your game

[stone bay]

what exactly does playing modless let you do

[ionic gale]

I mean I found out that’s its bc you need to dig in the files and remove them manually

[stone bay]

how do u remove mods form the modio client if i already use it

whats the location

[ionic gale]

I do dig in the files for mod removal

[tacit gull]

You need to unsubscribe from them and then remove them from your paks folder, there's a folder named mod.io

[ionic gale]

Ready or not folder… Content… paks…

Be careful when messing with stuff like that ofc

[tacit gull]

All playing with mods does is show you a red warning below your rank, that's about it, you can still unlock customisation and get achievements

[stone bay]

theres noeditor files there do i delete that

[ionic gale]

It would be easier if i had access to my PC at the moment to help you

[tacit gull]

do not delete the stuff from the paks folder, just mod.io

[ionic gale]

But I don’t got access it to it rn

[ionic gale]

also for modding

I use the nexus extension

[trim magnet]

is there a place to post suggdestions for ron?

[stone bay]

theres nothing in here except the noedifor files and it still seems to detect mods

[tacit gull]

#1050529506022137876

[trim magnet]

thx

[tacit gull]

Just make sure you unsubscribed to the mods in-game and then go and delete the entire mod.io folder

[ionic gale]

Before I was downloading them manually and it was a bit tedious to go in the files and mod them individually

[stone bay]

ok

[ionic gale]

I use the Vortex extension from Nexus Mods now and it’s easier to mod the game

But still you need to dig in the game’s files to remove mods that wont go away for some reason

I use like a lot of cosmetic mods for the in game clothing

And for weapons too

[stone bay]

does multiplayer work for extensions too

[tacit gull]

extensions?

With mods?

[ionic gale]

I mean, I would recommend turning on checksum

[stone bay]

achievements i mean not extensions

[ionic gale]

Oh wait, never mind

[tacit gull]

Ah, no, for some reason achievements are broken in multiplayer

[ionic gale]

What does Checksum do again?

I heard that if you’re going to mod the game it’s recommended that you have that on

Which I do have it enabled

[tacit gull]

Server side pak checksum makes it so people running different mods than you (having a different file checksum) will not be able to join your lobby

I always have it disabled since i like to host public lobbies and not everybody has my mountain of customisation mods

[hardy plinth]

Are there any confirmations and what the planned paid DLC will look like?

[stone bay]

probably gun reskin bs

and maps

[tacit gull]

No, i don't even think VOID themselves knows what it will look like LMAO

[ionic gale]

Honestly, I know that the PVP mode was like something that was in the game years ago as a play test, but

Damn, it would be actually kind of cool

I mean, it would probably just be like a siege skin, but still ;-;

[tacit gull]

There's a mod for it, but it's hard to find lobbies

[ionic gale]

What is void’s plans of releasing that to the vanilla game?

I know that’s probably gonna come like eventually

[hardy plinth]

There should be like this system where you pay money once and by playing you unlock new cosmetics but at the end of the season you can't unlock anymore of the stuff on the list

should be called like the Swat Pass or something

[tacit gull]

They've said they'll add it, haven't said they won't

So either it's been quietly put to sleep or they're still working on it

[ionic gale]

I heard some people not wanting any type of microtransactions in there, though

[hardy plinth]

maybe like a wheel you can spin for money and you can win stronger guns if you win

[ionic gale]

I mean like I think we all know that micro transactions nowadays are pretty crap and obviously greedy

[hardy plinth]

something like

[ionic gale]

I feel like they just got a bad rap now

[hardy plinth]

and hear me out

[ionic gale]

Yah?

[hardy plinth]

boxes
but

they have a random item inside

of varying rarity

and here's the catch:

95% of the contents is trash

[viscid kettle]

is it my fault or does the replay feature won't stay enabled? everytime i start the game, i have to enable it

[tacit gull]

Not your fault

[hardy plinth]

Something like, plunder crates or something

[ionic gale]

Isn’t that just like in most games tho lol

[hardy plinth]

Booty cubes

[crude prism]

Did you guys not see the roadmap? PvP is on it

#🎨ron-screenshots-and-art message

[ionic gale]

0-0

[hardy plinth]

Treasure packs

[tacit gull]

Ok well nobody actually gives a shit about the PVP really, all i care about is the David 'Judge' Beaumont dating sim

[ionic gale]

Please tell me that image is fake. Oh my God…

[tacit gull]

[crude prism]

epic games, and steam workshop partnership at the same time, we're living large

[ionic gale]

If that isn’t satire. it’s actually funny

[viscid kettle]

you know a way to let it stay enabled?

[tacit gull]

Oh trust me the actual roadmap seems more like satire

[sturdy pawn]

MORE CHILD PO-

[tacit gull]

I don't think there is one

[ionic gale]

:o

[viscid kettle]

thank you anway 🙂

[hardy plinth]

spongebob plug and play controller support when

[ionic gale]

That’ll be fire lol

Also, bro, you just unlock the core memory with the word “plug & play”

[viscid kettle]

also, what happend to the HRT uniform? am i dumb or isn't it there anymore?

[tacit gull]

The old uniform is gone, it got replaced by FISA gear for supporters

[ionic gale]

The HRT uniform is like pretty much nonexistent, but there are like some FISA outfits that you can unlock

[hardy plinth]

hormone replacement therapy uniform?

[crude prism]

ye

[ionic gale]

I have the FISA gear

[stone bay]

are there mods that add the fisa for nonsupporters lol

[hardy plinth]

is that how you can play as a woman?

[viscid kettle]

i see, thanks for sharing that info to me 🙂

[ionic gale]

I mean like I have a customization unlocked mod

In fact, like, I don’t think you can even buy the supporter edition anymore

[tacit gull]

There is a mod called Legacy Alpha FBI HRT if you want the old uniforms in the game though

[stone bay]

yeah but does the mod unlocked fisa

[crude prism]

there's ones that add gear like it, but specifically unlocking the supporter edition stuff is a no no

[stone bay]

gear like it or looking like it

[viscid kettle]

will take look into that, i kinda liked the alpha HRT uniform, was pretty sick

[stone bay]

like identical or

[crude prism]

if you upload a mod that literally unlocks the in-game supporter edition items

[ionic gale]

Also I kinda do like how the FBI was replaced with FISA

[stone bay]

i dont mean unlocking but adding or replacing some to look similar

[ionic gale]

It adds a little bit of more world building

[tacit gull]

https://www.nexusmods.com/readyornot/mods/811 here you go

[crude prism]

people can upload whatever, even if it looks similar, as long as it isn't the literal SE exclusives

I miss the old HRT heavy vest

It looks so much better without the crotch pad

[hardy plinth]

I really, really don't want to be this guy but it's actually kinda surprising you can't play as a woman in this game

[tacit gull]

I just feel sad i can't use this cause i dont have supporter edition lmao

[crude prism]

still planned

[ionic gale]

There are mods

[crude prism]

I assume they didn't because they would need another 12 voice actors lul

[hardy plinth]

yeah I get that + having to remodel most outfits

Question, do enemies see the barrel of your gun peeking around corners?

[stone bay]

i see that there arent no fisa uniform mods rip

[ionic gale]

I’m that type of guy to actually main a shotgun in my team

[stone bay]

is customization unlocked better than everything unlocked?

[tacit gull]

No

[ionic gale]

Especially the supernova, my primary shotgun that I use?

[tacit gull]

I don't think everything unlocked works

[ionic gale]

I mean, I have it and for me, it just give me access to all of the cosmetic items like clothing

[hardy plinth]

Why use the supernova when you can use the semi-autos though

[ionic gale]

Because it’s the only weapon that could mount a holographic site ;-;

[hardy plinth]

True

I do love me a holo sight...

[stone bay]

wdym

[ionic gale]

I said this earlier, but why doesn’t the G36C have a holographic site?

[crude prism]

"cause"

[tacit gull]

Everything unlocked is an ancient mod that is outdated

[hardy plinth]

Though I usually just use canted + laser pointer on shotguns

[hardy rapids]

why you need a sight let alone a holo

[ionic gale]

in real life, the knight armament rail system that replaced the carry handle, should be able to mount a holographic site

[stone bay]

hipfire that beasy

[hardy plinth]

I really thought this game was more realistic when I started playing

[tacit gull]

because the g36 ironsights are not only hideous but borderline unusable

[ionic gale]

Yeah, yeah I do use canted buyers sometimes

[stone bay]

do yall recommend gunfighter

[ionic gale]

I mean I have a mod that returns it to its carry handle

[hardy plinth]

In the beginning it was more like "oh so that's a thing?" now it's more finding out constantly "oh so that ISNT even a thing"

[hardy rapids]

canted laser all time easy

[ionic gale]

But I still can’t use a holographic site

This has to be a constitutional outrage

[hardy plinth]

I just don't get why the standard keybind for canted is like fucking O or something

[ionic gale]

The G36 is like my main rifle to use

[hardy rapids]

you do get it that it's sight not site

[ionic gale]

I only rebounded my keys like a little bit

[tacit gull]

Personally i feel like it breaks a lot of the little balance the game has and it dumbs down recoil a lot, but it does add some really good shit too

[hardy plinth]

Yeah it's one of the only things I changed

[ionic gale]

Sorry, it’s my AutoCorrect ;/:

[hardy rapids]

😉

[ionic gale]

I have X for my fire selector & Z for my laser/light key

[hardy rapids]

sorry im old i forget most people use phones these days

[ionic gale]

You know, when you see a suspect like bleed out on the ground crying after shooting you…

In my head, I just find it like almost funny that this guy actually tried to “kill a swat officer”

You could’ve avoided a sucking chest wound if you just complied

[hardy plinth]

I put laser sight and canted both on the side of my mouse

[copper cypress]

Will using pepper spray on a suspect who has surrendered or been arrested result in demerit points?

[hardy rapids]

yup what i did

[hardy plinth]

Canted it just something you need to be able to switch to pretty often and quickly so I don't get why the devs put it on O

[tacit gull]

Only if you use it too much

[ionic gale]

I like the spicy spray

[hardy rapids]

fun to shoot everyone with the pepperball guns

[ionic gale]

I rarely use it but when I do I like messing with the suspects

[tacit gull]

The pepperspray literally has no reason to exist anymore, i have no clue why they nerfed it so much

[ionic gale]

(And civis)

[hardy plinth]

correction

pepper spray is fun to use on teammates

[ionic gale]

I like blowing off chunks of suspects with the shotguns

If I use a semi automatic I use the Beretta 1301

[hardy plinth]

the shotguns are brutal

[ionic gale]

I have like blown off limbs with it before

I mean the suspects were for kinda asking for it because they were shooting at me

If you fire at a swat officer, I will fire back

So stop crying on the damn ground all because I shot you

[craggy yew]

Love the shotguns but I hated using slugs

[ionic gale]

You could’ve avoided a hospital visit if you just complied & avoiding trying to kill me and my chums

[ionic gale]

Yeah, I don’t use slugs

[craggy yew]

Then I didn’t have range 😔

[ionic gale]

Some people call it like a crappy assault rifle if you use slugs

[craggy yew]

Swapped to the SR 16 for practicality

[ionic gale]

What SMG do you use when you occasionally use them?

[crude prism]

these people have not used slugs

[ionic gale]

I use the MP5/10

The feds use them and it’s a cool weapon

I mean the FBI doesn’t use the 10 mm MP5 anymore

[tacit gull]

the mp5a2 for the sexy flashlight handguard

[ionic gale]

Yee it’s kool

For some reason, I like, using the sort of underappreciated weapons that most people don’t use

I mean using the assault rifles are pretty much conventional on, especially higher level missions

I don’t know if the SMG’s are really like considered under used

[crude prism]

imo they're too weak generally, and issues with recoil make them unwieldly

[ionic gale]

I mean like I’m sure that they’re good on the more lower danger maps like before you gas station or 213 Park homes

against an unarmored enemy, they’re great

[tacit gull]

On average i've found that it takes about 2 extra rounds compared to rifles to put someone down

If you really want someone dead and hate having ammo the SPC is great for lasering people

[crude prism]

If they didn't get the janky injury debuffs, I would consider using them way more often. But it's very difficult to be precise when the game just yanks your shit all over

[tacit gull]

Yeah i really don't get what they were thinking when they designed their stats, maybe it's values designed for their old systems and they just left them as is for the current gimped one

[crude prism]

where's my copy pasta... one sec...

You can reduce up to 70% of recoil on rifles with the right attachments

No SMG can get more than a 20% recoil reduction

The injured arm debuffs add flat value increase, so it affects SMGs way more because they can't get nearly the same PERCENTAGE reduction

(also yada yada smgs have to be fired more to down targets, etc etc etc)