👮ron-discussion

[summer copper]

nah but i did notice that bullets land slightly lower than where the red dot is so maybe they were just low enough to count as body?

[crude prism]

side effect of the headshot multipliers being fixed with the Feb 6th patch. You can reliably do it with pistol calibers.

they don't deal enough damage to completely zero out suspect health

[frail quartz]

VOID MOMENT

[summer copper]

damn i've been one tapping everyone to the head

[silk yoke]

but I guess that means they used to?

weird

[silk yoke]

well yeah they still drop. but now sometimes they live

[crude prism]

The headshot damage calculation has been broken since (at least) Adam. Where basically any damage would kill players/suspects/civs no matter what.

Long time players can remember that you used to occasionally get a 'red head' on the paperdoll, but not for a long time.

Like single buckshot pellets are not supposed to kill you from high hp, but they have been

I'm sure they'll rework it somehow, but the system is functioning 'correctly' and not spitting out bad calculations now

[silk yoke]

good to know

and maybe it does work on the players now. I had my helmet break today and lived, which is also new

[crude prism]

minor inconvenience

bonk

[stark hollow]

dam nobody saw that

[frail quartz]

I did!

||(no I didn't)||

can you tell us what you deleted 😇

[prime wing]

I know

[stark hollow]

NOOOOO

[opal holly]

best gun in ron?

[summer copper]

whichever one your favourite is

[frail quartz]

Mostly subjective, but if you don't mind taking a peek behind the curtains, this should help #👮ron-discussion message

[crude prism]

lol I got pinged by whatever the deleted thing was? damn now I wanna know

[foggy zinc]

good starting point https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1d89lpFDA9lo_v13iBlnhtuA6DvuUnKfPaeo0d4RBGJ4/edit#gid=1878248973

[stark hollow]

im working on it

alright nevermind it isnt gonna work

[crude prism]

F

[stark hollow]

its a video of me playing yesterday and i shot brixley in the head with 9mm jhp when he took a woman hostage

and he just took it

shot her

then started shooting at me

with a huge gaping hole in his face

[crude prism]

working as intended

[stark hollow]

one day

/soon/

[summer copper]

i've never used jhp what's the benefit over AP

[frail quartz]

Has increased limb damage/stopping power on certain calibers

[crude prism]

the hostage taking has always been really buggy it seems

but I can also fathom a guess at what might happen because of the 'new' headshot multipliers

if you don't kill them (as previously done with any headshot) the sequence continues

even if they're technically past the health threshold for incap

and I bet that the game doesn't do real-time checks for health values, only when new damage is taken

(as the former system would be redundant)

[native rune]

Just now a suspect took a hostage, I killed the suspect, the hostage just stood there in the pose so I had to shoot him, then as the ai cuffed him (I couldn’t for some reason) the suspect and civilians body’s returned to the animation and then fell like they were made of cement

[crude prism]

haunted ass SWAT raid

[foggy zinc]

nah that's saved for farm or clemente

tell me there is no scarier map than those two

[native rune]

Kinda annoying how these features are still broken to shit

[frail quartz]

VOID MOMENT

[foggy zinc]

boid binteractive

[native rune]

But nah let’s ask for more money with the two planned dlcs I guess

[crude prism]

I gotta re-edit that roadmap with "1.0 bugfixes" through the entirety of 2024

[fast sage]

I just fully cleared Relapse non lethal but somehow a civ died that i didnt notice, i got a A+, im so sad

[native rune]

The hate just writes itself at this point with every addition 1.0 and past I feel like I’ve been increasingly out of a job

[crude prism]

heartbreaking, do I need to send someone over to do a wellness check?

[stark hollow]

very interesting

hopefully something devs are aware of

i did notice that sometimes straight headshots with lower calibers were only incaps when they shouldve been kills

[shy tulip]

Everyone knows low caliber headshots gives the Relic chip time to rebuild your brain

[summer copper]

makes sense, i literally never hit limbs

[mortal aurora]

ive incapped with a 12g to the face

idk how 💀

[summer copper]

shotguns to the face have a surprisingly low kill rate

surprisingly low being not 100% of the time

[mortal aurora]

ye

[shy tulip]

I can confirm that it is a skill issue

Nova with buckshot fucks

It is crazy the range you will just straight up one tap and demolish suspects

[crystal sierra]

Do we have any info on how much will new DLC costs?

[bright valley]

no
source: the lack of source is my source

[crystal sierra]

Hmmm, buying Helldivers or waiting for DLC to drop? :X

[bright valley]

probably buy the game while it's still the flavor of the month

[ashen sandal]

Please don't buy Helldivers. There's already to many people in the game servers lmfao

[crystal sierra]

I mean, i survived New World loading queues, it can't be that bad xDDDD

[ashen sandal]

But I can't. Stay here, enjoy RoN. I promise you're not missing anything. I'm totally just protecting you, not trying to get into the game.

[crystal sierra]

Nothing to protect me from, as an someone who spent more then 7000 hours in Rainbow Six Siege, primarly solo Q, i'm pretty much suited to everything 🤣

[soft narwhal]

7000 on seige ? You need some help.

[ashen sandal]

Please don't. I'm begging. I just want to Helldive

[soft narwhal]

I only have 1k and it's enough

😔

[summer copper]

i have 300 and that's more than i should've ever gotten

[crude prism]

straight to the asylum

bro is untreatable

[crystal sierra]

Maybe 6000 out of that 7k were soloQ only overall, Started playing in operation health, active players 'till Solis came out, ironically, Solis is legit my main now, best suited to my playstyle.

[crystal sierra]

Trust me, i saw thing there, many things, good and bad xDDD

[soft narwhal]

I started during velvet shell. Took many breaks in between but eventually stopped myself.

[crystal sierra]

It's currently cheater hellhole from what i heard, but also i heard that they are planning some dope stuff for next season tho, lol.

[tough spire]

I see I have popped in for "what are we playing while we wait for RoN to improve" chat

[crystal sierra]

I honestly just need some game like Division / Division 2 xDDDD

[tough spire]

I tried Div 1 briefly and it was alright. I hated that the premise was "shoot civilians just trying to survive"

[crystal sierra]

Div 1 setting was flawless with that snow and stuff, Div 2 have much more content tho, but everything basiclly is behind paywall in form of Warlords of New York DLC, you are playing Div 2 in Washington, while DLC is allowing you to go back to New York, new map, new stuff to explore.'

[tough spire]

(at least in the tutorial areas - didn't get much beyond that)

Oh it was gorgeous I'll give it that

[willow kraken]

Well in Div 1 the Division was hardly presented as the good guys, and the game constantly questioned if what you were doing was right. Division 2 is when the Division basically got presented as absolute heroes and all other factions are just crazy murderers.

[crystal sierra]

I honestly tried 1 more run with new character around december, it is still enjoyable expirinence, tho, since there is lack of players in Div 1 there is not much to do in Dark zone for example

[tough spire]

Ah at least they're aware of it. Or, were until Div 2 apparently.

[crystal sierra]

They confirmed Div 3 tho, tbh, can't wait to see what they are cooking now. It's dope title overall.

[willow kraken]

Yeah characters in Div 1 basically compared the Division to post-9/11 policies like the Patriot Act. In Division 2 they went so hard in the "not political" route they erased like the last 5 presidents in a museum exhibit about presidents

[tough spire]

Good lord.

[crystal sierra]

Tbh, i would like to see in title like that is option to play as an villian permanently if you want, for example, being that rogue agent how they called them, creating your own outpost in dark zones etc. It will just spice game on whole new level for all players.

[fast sage]

yes, im in critical condition

[crude prism]

[summer copper]

CAN MY AI TEAMMATES STOP INCAPPING SUSPECTS WHILE IM TRYING TO S RANK THE SPIDER

PUT THE PISTOL WWAY

[tough spire]

Stop giving them pistol ammo

They'll still pull it, but they can't shoot it

[summer copper]

it's probably the shield bastard

[summer copper]

do you mean take away all 3 mags

[shy tulip]

Yep

[tough spire]

If you're giving them 3 mags, then yes.

[summer copper]

okay will try that tomorrow

it's like 3 attempts that i've lost to randomly incapping a suspect

one time the guy had a hostage and i sent my teammates with their VKS to move and clear and the hostage died 👍 good policing guys

i've spent like 7 attempts trying to S rank the spider

[crystal sierra]

They all their secondary mags, but be aware, they will still ocasionally pull out empty pistol on suspects, my advice, try to run 2 VKS-s + 2 beanbags as an non-lethal equipment.

[summer copper]

i tried running beanbags but one of my guys head shotted a suspect and killed him

i'll take their mags and give them gas instead

[high beacon]

Equip them with gas grenades, a gas launcher, that pepperball gun and go beanbag shotgun yourself

[summer copper]

i should use more gas, i havent been using much despite running gas masks

[crystal sierra]

Can happen, yes, but it's best shot overall, run C2, and Gas, your best bet overall. if you are using VKS personally there is good chance to receive unauthorized force penalty ocasionally. As well, don't forget to run Gas mask. Beanbag is your best shot overall since you can shoot both civilians and suspects without fear of penalty, but if you shoot them in the head they will surely die. Only problematic map i found so far for S rank is Neon Tomb ( nightclub ), honestly, for me that's easiset map overall if we don't count gas station. But, there is 1 suspect there with sucide west, you must shoot him in the legs with beanbag, otherwise, boom

And yeah, i almost forgot, do not run laser on beanbag by any means, as well, don't run scopes at all. there is accuarcy inconsistencies with attachments and lasers overall so you will miss shots a lot.

@crude prism will give you more insight about that overall.

[summer copper]

alright, i appreciate the help brother

[rancid root]

what do the numbers mean over officers in therapy or that are incapacitated?

[crude prism]

do you have a clip of this happening after the Feb 6th patch? supposedly it was patched out, and I haven't been able to recreate it

[crystal sierra]

If they are in therapy they will recover after finishing 3 missions, regardless of result, fail or win. If they are dead you will lost them and you will need to employ new ones, there is cases where if you don't send them to therapy, they will just resign, so you aggain need to hire new ones

[pearl shuttle]

Missions left I think

[rancid root]

apparently one of mine isnt dead just incapacitated even though he took a 12 gauge to the head

[summer copper]

i didn't clip it but i can try and make it happen

[crude prism]

if you know when it was, you can go through the replay for it (if u have those on)

[crystal sierra]

You might have paramedic in team, he can revive them but they will still need therapy ( 3 missions colodown )

[summer copper]

it might've been an incap but i'm fairly sure it was a kill

[rancid root]

ah cool thanks

[summer copper]

nah lol i've played like at least 10 missions since

[twilit vault]

Did the dev group cancel the head blow up in hot fix3?

Does anyone knows what mod can restore the old hotel map?

[quiet hinge]

bro why tf is the update so big

[umbral oar]

it changes like 6 gb it doesnt add anything

[quiet hinge]

literally bro idk how tf

like i have to move the game to a different disk this is bs

[shy tulip]

The game is still 56Gb, it just includes 6gb worth of changes because it went through and optimized every part of the game, including adding new LOD assets.

[quiet hinge]

hope to god i aint got lag anymore cause that'd be the only thing that makes this worth it

[crude prism]

it runs soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo much better

I went from getting like 20-40 fps most of the time (post 1.0) to 100+ ez

[quiet hinge]

damn okay

[shy tulip]

Yeah, I went from medium settings with FSR to balanced on 3440p to high with FSR off

[quiet hinge]

might be worth it

[gleaming fable]

that graphic setting they allowed to be disabled in hotfix3 was a godsend for my oldass pc. lmao

[shy tulip]

Just let it load the update and it'll be fine, you may notice some stutters at first while it regenerates your data essentially. Best way I can phrase it

[quiet hinge]

i still have to move all 100 gb of forza over to a new disk because none of my games are big enough to make room for it

[foggy zinc]

what kinda toaster is bro running

[ruby bloom]

toaster 2

[halcyon oar]

To get the hermit achievement are you allowed to fire or have officers quit?

[foggy zinc]

don't think so

[normal trout]

shit feels the same for me

[blazing glade]

It is a gamer toaster with powerful leds, right?

[foggy zinc]

You forgot the racing strips

it's also powered off a potato array

[crude prism]

the 3070ti and i7-8700k in question:

[prime wing]

red name spotted

ask for update

(do not)

[foggy zinc]

yea ok i think it is just higher end hardware that has those issues

[crude prism]

yeah 1.0 blew up my performance and the AI, still S'd everything again though at 30fps 😎

[foggy zinc]

that or i never realized it cuz i've never pushed my PC to the limits with this game cuz my fan curve makes it turn into a jet engine past 60C

[crude prism]

when the pc starts levitating like it's being possessed

that means the game is running good

[naive marten]

You know RoN hates you when you crash while in the bearcat

[foggy zinc]

how

[naive marten]

Every copy of RoN is personalized so every player experiences a unique set of bugs.

[foggy zinc]

also MMMM for ur nvidia control panel, do u have ur power plan set to max performance or balanced/adaptive? i've always had it on max performance but idk if it really does much for performance lel

[velvet sierra]

agreed bro i have had this bug for over a month now that ive not met a single other person having

[foggy zinc]

what's the bug officer

[velvet sierra]

after arresting someone my cursor pulls up and i cant do anything except restarting my game to fix it, this means the only way i can arrest people is having either my friend or AI do it for me

when my cursor pulls up its as if ive tabbed out sort of? idk bro ready or not creates its own unique bugs

[hexed mulch]

Is there a way to accurately aim with the shield?

[foggy zinc]

ok i have literally no words, i'd say verify game files or reinstall the game, cuz that's some hella unexpected behaviour

[foggy zinc]

using a laser (IR or visible) is the best method

[crude prism]

try holding tab (or whatever your open tablet button is)

[crude prism]

it's set to 'normal' instead of high performance, but like RoN wouldn't even use it when I changed it

like seriously since 1.0 it just wouldn't use more than like 30% of the card

no matter the settings or anything

but game is playable comfortably now, so... I digress

[naive marten]

Now how do I unsubscribe from the "bugs" DLC?

[foggy zinc]

Ima test and see how it works on balanced power maybe

[quiet dagger]

did they fix this game yet

[vague ice]

wonder how many neurons were needed to come up with a question like that

[twilit vault]

Did the game cancel the head blow up after hot fix 3?

I could only blow up suspects’s face

[dreamy garden]

why does smoke amply light to ungodly amounts of brisa cove

horrific firefights because you cant see shit

[fallow sage]

works just fine

especially if you use JHP/Slug

[twilit vault]

Please show me some videos

Or picture

I don’t know what happened in my game

[umbral oar]

yes they only destroy the face now

[jaunty cave]

I think it would be nice if Ready or Not had functional magnifier scopes for attachment right now there are only cosmetics and serve no purpose. Can they please be implemented? I know the Ready or Not uses the same engine as ground branch and they have a workable scope.

[short topaz]

If an officer resigns you will still get the hermit achievement, but you won't get the watch

[tough spire]

The Elcan and the 12x magnify, what are you talking about?

[jaunty cave]

they work?

[tough spire]

Yeah. The elcan is a little weak but the 12x it's noticeable.

[jaunty cave]

how big is the zoom is exactly 12x?

[tough spire]

It's sure not 12x but it's more than enough for any RoN environment

[jaunty cave]

I like to see an EOTECH sight that has a flipable scope.

[tough spire]

Are you talking about the G33 flip mag?

[jaunty cave]

yeah

[tough spire]

It'd be cool. Nothing beats GB's customization.

I never have found magnification to be particularly necessary for RoN tho. I find it's nice on Greased Palms and that's it.

[terse umbra]

worth jumping back in yet or no?

ive played 1.0 but not since the release basically

[vestal mauve]

yes

[tacit gull]

Not really, the only thing that changed gameplay wise is the AI missing more shots i think

[slender basalt]

if i finished the campaign after HIDE AND SEEK mission
there is an update i should download?

[prime wing]

not really, its gonna be the same content until the dlc

[terse umbra]

@tacit gull okay thanks

[leaden hamlet]

I'm still annoyed they took the grenade launcher out

[neon forge]

any1 got good gun suggestions

[compact sequoia]

so uh, when are we getting that "yakuza trafficking nuclear material" mission

[fallow sage]

F90

[mortal sierra]

is it just me or there is one guy in public servers talking about god 24/7

that guy never even bothered to move from the coffee machine

[prime wing]

not even 11 minutes into the day and we got another watchmen victim

[tacit scaffold]

The watchmen consumes

[tacit scaffold]

Hes so scizzo he play’s back his own videos on repeat

[tranquil swallow]

what do you think of the preacher?

[atomic tartan]

Are there any differences in the performance of all the guns? like how many shots it takes to incap/kill a suspect-
Not including the FAL. Just talking more about like the differences between LVAR, SR16, etc.

[stone stump]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1d89lpFDA9lo_v13iBlnhtuA6DvuUnKfPaeo0d4RBGJ4/edit

[atomic tartan]

Thank you!

[jovial wing]

Does anyone know where to find the helmet stats

To change as a uasset with the uasset gui

I mean the Uasset files, in the blueprints section when using Uasset model viewer

https://www.nexusmods.com/readyornot/mods/1230?tab=images

This mod changes helmet stats

that image shows the uasset files to change to modify helmet stats but i have not been able to find their location

[mortal aurora]

the watchmen consumes the watchmen consumes...

[inland wolf]

just crash his game

[subtle shoal]

why can't I change weapons in the public lobby? i use mk18 but when i want to change to another weapon nothing happens

[foggy zinc]

old mod conflict, there's nothing with being in a public lobby that would inhibit you from swapping weapons

[stone bay]

How you compare this game to R6 Siege?

[late isle]

Two completely different games.

[brittle sable]

you really dont
the only comparison i can make is "you shoot guns"

[stone bay]

Really? They're both tactical right?

[brittle sable]

theyre completely different types of tactical
one relies on map destruction and modification and devices to get kills
one relies on some tech but mostly your clearance technique to get arrests and not die in the process

[bitter mason]

Ready or not doesnt have pvp right now
But whenever it does i imagine it wont be class based and be a bit more realistic. But we dont really know what the pvp will be like.
Ultimately the games are completely different and not really comparable

Ron is more comparable to swat 4 since thats what its based off. Though even then it ends up playing a bit differently to that rn

[slender basalt]

game mechanics needs to change like adding sprinting cuz if pvp whenever u enter a room just randomly shoot at the door and ur team are dead or wherever you go slowly you will die if u r the Swat team

[bitter mason]

We dont really know what the modes will be like, very early ron pvp was team deathmatch i think. Idk if theyre gonna do the same or do some more unique attack/defend or vip type modes

I dont think sprint is necessary

[brittle sable]

ready or not pvp would be a defensive sided mess assuming you could had barricades

[thorny warren]

i managed to get an A on greased palms, i did B before, but using the M249 was a bit of cheating no?

[stone stump]

more like making it harder for no reason

[stone bay]

Anyone play Swat 3/4?

[junior depot]

Am I confused or are the patch notes only 4 lines long?

I was expectng the AI squadmate traits to be fixed... pretty broken when the traits become inactive once unlocked, but active when locked...

[shy dagger]

does anyone know why the meth heads are digging tunnels in Twisted Nerve?

[bitter mason]

never properly explained but I think they're all just crazy mostly, but the drawings and stuff found around the place imply they're looking for some ancient bug creature or something. again, crazy methhead stuff

[shy dagger]

is it cuz theyre schizo? cuz one of the drawings about the tunnels says "follow the insect" which kinda seems schizo to me

[shy dagger]

yea

[earnest phoenix]

god forbid men have hobbies

[craggy yew]

Is the cure to male loneliness digging a tunnel high off meth?

[bitter mason]

definitely

in search of bug wife

[craggy yew]

Hell yeah

[alpine kindle]

are there any plans to add none lethal handguns or allow the taser to be carried with a shield?

[crystal sierra]

Why would you want to carry non-lethal close range only gun with an shield ffs, just keep 1 guy with beanbag or VHS behind you.

[shy dagger]

ohh, its cuz theyre trying to dig into the city's drainage system. probably to smuggle drugs easier.

[alpine kindle]

because bots sometimes are pretty wonky with shooting... also the ffs... why act up on a simple question... djees dude relax

[earnest phoenix]

"Furthermore, features to further facilitate less-lethal playthroughs may be expanded upon, such as potentially making less-lethal options like the TPL also available in the secondary slot in a future hotfix."

[shy dagger]

theres a map in the money cache room saying so

[stone stump]

why are you acting up that someone allegedly acted up?

[alpine kindle]

it is a notation of his behaviour not acting up😉

however, i was simply asking since for act of valor a shield on me would be much more pref then on the bot running into random places with me shooting behind it as i usually do and pointed out by @crystal sierra

[stone stump]

taser + shield made no sense and it's for the better that it got unintentionally removed, period

[earnest phoenix]

a non lethal pistol would be a good addition

[brittle sable]

If I have someone running non lethal, I dunno about you, but I'd rather have it be a guy with a shield to defend themselves if it fucks up with while their lethal cover deals with it

[alpine kindle]

taser with shield is indeed worse then shooting a gun with rubber bullets which would be awesome to play front going for S tier

[brittle sable]

although if we're talking non lethal, id rather have a less lethal long tactical option, so we can carry less lethal primaries + lethal primaries

[crystal sierra]

And again, in real situation, none would risk front man to go with non-lethal weapon as an entry. Point of the game is to simulate realism pretty much instead of actually blindly completing the levels. Point is to find best way to complete it with stuff you have. If you can't complete it, it's an skill issue pretty much.

[alpine kindle]

to get S tier on maps you can't kill a single person. while you can basically crouch walk up to the shooter with a shield. it is annoying you can't just quickly disarm them with a few none lethal shots to have a better flow

skill issue when i am just asking it to be a thing... why are you so quick to jump to conclusions

i am at 17/18 on act of valor

[summer copper]

my AI teammates are so annoying while im trying to S rank it, i took their pistol ammo away and they pull out their empty pistol to deal with a suspect and die... this is the 4th time this has happened

[junior depot]

Do they have a shield? that auto-equips when breaching iirc

[summer copper]

they do not

[stone stump]

point of the game is trying to have both and achieving neither in result

[alpine kindle]

only hide and seek left. it's a simple question and you feel the need to bash it on a personal level

[junior depot]

Make sure they have lots of VKS ammo I guess

[summer copper]

they do

they switch to pistol when they empty a mag, not when they empty every mag

[crystal sierra]

Use gas and C2, your best shot pretty much,

[summer copper]

have been doing both religiously

its just a case of getting lucky at this point lol ive lost 11 attempts

[brittle sable]

not religiously enough then, or your religious use is just not effective

[junior depot]

Oh ok, that would be hard to fix imo because they are in a heated moment and are trained that pistol swap is quicker than reloading

[brittle sable]

would be nice to see a replay

[alpine kindle]

when going for S tier with bots. try to be the second man of entry that why you can quickly disarm from behind the shield

[summer copper]

i have replays disabled because i need the framerate

[junior depot]

Ouu, definitely doing this now for extra FPS :p

[alpine kindle]

there are few occasions you want to split them up to clear up large spaces with multiple entries and have 1 side at least flash it in while both execute

[summer copper]

its "the spider"

[alpine kindle]

wedging doors to push in sections is also very helpful for S

[summer copper]

i would be doing fine if my teammates would stop pulling out empty pistols

i do wedge doors that cut off flank routes

[junior depot]

wedging doors is very satisfying - mirroring and planning simultaneous breaches with AI is top-tier gameplay

[alpine kindle]

never had them pull out empty pistols tbh, only my front guy with shield running with an empty pistol which is stupid but it is how the game forces us to play atm to get S tier. since 1 dead suspect = in failed S

[summer copper]

thankfully my teammates are incapable of killing suspects

and i never aim higher than stomach with the beanbag just in case

[junior depot]

I've definitely been spooked and headshot suspects with the beanbag shotgun 😆

[junior depot]

Lost an S rank to C2 killing the suspect standing to the right of the closed door

[frail quartz]

I've never had my teammates pull out empty pistols yet too

[summer copper]

i came wildly close earlier lol, guy was behind a counter so i could only see his damn head, panic shot and somehow didnt kill him

[earnest phoenix]

i lost my 35 minute relapse S run because i headshot 1 guy with the beanbag

[summer copper]

just me then lol sometimes i watch them walking around with empty glocks

[junior depot]

I stopped going for S because non-lethal became a chore, and super boring with only 1 gun option. But still really fun to intimidate and take suspects by surprise, forcing them to drop their weapon

[crystal sierra]

Use optiwand before, more info you have, better you will pass 🙂

[junior depot]

I actually did wand it, but didnt realize that the blast went to the sides aswell as straight ahead. pretty realistic though

[summer copper]

it is getting to be a pain in the ass but im going for all achievements eventually, havent even completed relapse normally yet

[alpine kindle]

look at it on the bright side. isnt killing a suspect with C2 an achievement 😄

[junior depot]

Hardest level for me so far is Valley of the Dolls - only made it to Elephant though

[alpine kindle]

hide and seek is the last map for me to get act of valor

[summer copper]

elephant was a strange mission for me because i had all 4 limbs broken and zero kills but my team was completely unharmed and they wiped out every shooter

[alpine kindle]

valley of dolls - neon club - hospital have been a hassle to deal with for sure

[junior depot]

Everyone talks about Hospital lol - is it harder than Elephant? or just really long?

[alpine kindle]

it is harder for sure

[summer copper]

both

[junior depot]

Post Office feels really long tbh, but its actually not depending on how you do it

[alpine kindle]

all maps are pretty easy if you use lethal force, but going for S you quickly notice the differences since you can't shoot through glas and boarded windows while they can

[junior depot]

can always use your pistol to break a shoot-hole

[alpine kindle]

never thought of that good tip

[crystal sierra]

There is one exception in terms of glass tho, Relapse reception area in underground garage, you can't break that one

[junior depot]

I figured that out when I fat-fingered pistol instead of flashbang in a panic - today I'm going to mess around with the breach shotgun and see if I can make some cool holes in wooden walls and doors

[summer copper]

okay guys more the spider S rank attempts, i tried once on twisted nerve but accidentally headshot the second suspect and just moved on after completing it

[crystal sierra]

Spider was the Brixville talent mission if i remember correctly?

[junior depot]

I wedge all exterior doors on that mission - enter through the roof or the back-alley door into the locker room

if you don't, they run out into the parking lot and hide

[summer copper]

yeah

[crystal sierra]

Roof is unrelyable entry for S rank, since there is too much dead angles when you try to enter the building, best shot is main entrance.

[junior depot]

You only need to clear to the right if you do it my way - yours has both left and right

[alpine kindle]

i did spider through the main hallway with flashes and gas

[junior depot]

love how many approaches each level has

[alpine kindle]

taking control over the center and then clearing left to outside going upstairs

[summer copper]

i always go around the convenience store to the outside section because people would always walk in from outside

[crystal sierra]

Wedge all exterior doors when you spawn on the street, then enter inside courtyard from the store ( clear store in process ), clear courtyard and wedge all doors of the building leading outside, go to the roof, clear that, enter inside the building from rooftop, and clear stairs, then wedge the door leading to stairs area. Go outside again, to the main entrance and C2 door + gas, there is usually 1 suspect at reception desk on the right. Place Red team to wand the next double door inside and after C2 + gas as well, order blue team to clear reception desk, then order them to clear small office behind reception desk. clear in same time both room, pretty much everything else is ez.

[summer copper]

okay ill try that, i havent tried to go through the roof yet

[ebon plinth]

idk if this is the right channel for it but what ssettings do you guys recommend for a lower end setup

[crystal sierra]

Don't even try to enter and start clearing from the roof like i said, too much dead angles, if you are running VHS for example, there is 50% chance to suceed but only if you go first yourself, Your AI teammates are programmed to immidetly when they open door, first one will always clear dead space behind the door, instant dead from guy on the right inside lobby.

[alpine kindle]

would always advice to put a shield on 1 bot with an empty pistol... still stupid and be the shooter behind him

shield will take aggro and if your shooting is on point you quickly disarm them

only had 1 moment so far where a hostile switched targets to me clearing a room which oddly surprised me

[summer copper]

bled out 3 separate times cuz i ran out of gas grenades, tried to move into cover because my teammates were behind me and died

to the last guy on the roof btw

[crystal sierra]

Are you using Granades or launcher? Launchers have only 1 charge on bots.

[summer copper]

i used the launchers while clearing the interior

and i use mirrorgun

im tellin you, its just a case of shitty luck

[crystal sierra]

Try to use 2 wedges on everyone + gas granades on rest. for the gadgets, 1 mirrorgun on both blue and red team, for others, either 2 rams or in red place 1 shield, and on other place ram. depends how you want to play, i personally don't like to use shield on S runs overall. And 1 tip, you can use mirrorgun to check behind corners overall, if you want to check roof before you peek just use mirrorgun, see where they are, then throw gas from cover before you peek.

[rocky plover]

while mirrorgun is hands down the best, I really prefer using the launcher ngl

[summer copper]

i cant not have the intel

[crystal sierra]

Tbh, launcher can be useful for some fast pushes with bots since for example, if you C2 + launcher, 1 bot will preplace himself in front of the door and fire immidetly after the explosion, but bots have only 1 launcher charge while you have 2

[vestal mauve]

battering ram gang

[rocky plover]

that makes it part of the fun for me xD

[stone stump]

swat ai likes the launcher so much they can use it only once

[rocky plover]

yeah i'm talking about using the launcher myself since I can have 4

[crystal sierra]

I mean, you can try launcher alongside gas granandes, could work, but make sure to place wand on at least two of AIs to check the rooms, they usually can spot the suspect even trough walls sometimes.

[rocky plover]

plus the AI don't use the launcher very well, so even if they would fix it and make them have 4 shots instead of 1, still wouldn't make me eager to give them the launcher

[rocky plover]

yeah i finished all S ranks on 1.0 release before any of the hotfixes without mods and gas grenades with flash/stinger launchers worked very well for me

and ye i mostly used the Ai to wedge doors and mirror for me

[crystal sierra]

Still need to finish Relapse and Port on S for valor achivement, pretty much, relapse is hardest map overall, time capped because of the bombs, suspects have op guns etc etc etc.

I don't even want to talk about size of the map.

[stone stump]

you reach both of the bombs pretty soon into the run though?

[alpine kindle]

i only need hide and seek for act of valor

[crystal sierra]

You do, but look like this, you start from main lobby, you will need to clear morgue first, really big area, and AIs don't navigate pretty good there, after that, you must clear radiology floor, you can't close the main door to isolate them, so, you are forced to waste time there first. If you start from underground garage, you will reach kids room pretty fast, but, there is like 70% chance for suspect to spawn on skybridge, alongside all bad reflections and stuff, they can kill you pretty fast, they have advantage on range + lethal guns while you are forced to have non-lethal ones.

[alpine kindle]

the guy on relapse to arrest is a bit of rng

[rocky plover]

while Port is "technically" harder I do agree that Relapse has it's moment true..........I sweared alot on that map, one example below:
I threw a gas nade, it fell "through the map" and landed in the basement, anyways after I had cleared everything and went to clear the last part which is basement I found 2 suspects had 'offed' themselves lol, and this happened at least 4 times (even on neon tomb)

[alpine kindle]

for morgue wedge down the double door and start clearing from the locker room

[rocky plover]

easily ruined my S ranks a couple times cos of that reason

[alpine kindle]

depending on the position of hostiles you can decide wether or not u need flashes to push through

wedges are very important on relapse

[rocky plover]

the bomb timer is pretty long though so both entry points are good, just pick whatever you prefer

[stone stump]

interesting, i've never seen a suspect on the bridge

[alpine kindle]

you have to create sections of clearance while limiting hostile rotations

[rocky plover]

yeah its rare but i've encountered it aswell

[summer copper]

FINALLY

YESSSSSS LETS FUCKING GO

[stone stump]

finally what?

[alpine kindle]

S rank 2/18 i guess

[summer copper]

i S ranked the spider

3 now actually i was about to update it

[crystal sierra]

For me they usually push from first duble door on the left, and because of reflections it's pretty much impossible to deal with them, because of the angle skybridge is placed, you can gas out second duble door ( in dark area ) while you deal with first one, but still pretty risky if door is open.

[summer copper]

that was like 15 attempts lol

[stone stump]

when did you start to play the game?

[alpine kindle]

yeah, most of my runs on relapse i have hostiles gaurding the bridge aswell

[summer copper]

2 days ago

[alpine kindle]

the easiest point is starting from main lobby tho. since from underground you can get shot through the windows aswell at bridge

from main lobby you just have to hold downthe front double door while you push it

[rocky plover]

I usually sprint through that part, their accuracy isn't that good at that range since I can't hit them with my less lethal through glass

[rancid root]

anyone know how i can check for tripwires under doors

[rocky plover]

But then again depends what armor you're wearing aswell

[alpine kindle]

bridge part starting from main lobby. you confirm the second entry is clear. then backtrack to the dark area and from there you push over asap if doors are open

close them and mirrorgun it first before fulling pushing through

[rocky plover]

Get close to door, equip wand, use it under door, look both sides, if you see a wire then it's rigged

[alpine kindle]

once you take control into the next building split into blue and red for a simulatinuous entry onto the bomb room with double flashes

[rancid root]

thanks

[summer copper]

you can use the mirrorgun to spot them on the door frame or peek the door and there will be a wire

[rocky plover]

Also there are 2 modes either full screen or PiP, choose whatever you prefer

[alpine kindle]

you can also peek the door, the wire will not trigger and that is how you defuse them

[rancid root]

oh great, thank you all

[rocky plover]

Or use a breach shotgun from far and blow the door with the trap xD

[rancid root]

i like that more hahaha

[alpine kindle]

reminds me of a duo clear, we clear entire building. friend decides to kick in 1 door. wrong time to win the lottery xD

[rocky plover]

It's fun but I don't suggest doing that if going S ranks lol

[rocky plover]

Oh god haha

[crystal sierra]

I just want for AI when you queue them to blow something of with C2 to actually place C2 and wait for command to execute instead of playing it after execute command -.-

[stone bay]

Anyone uses the optiwand often?

[crystal sierra]

🤚

[stone bay]

Also, I barely use any flashbangs at all

[summer copper]

never do a mission without it

[crystal sierra]

Was using flashes only before 1.0, now i switched to gas.

[summer copper]

gas and stingers are better anywawy

[stone bay]

Used it once when there was one hostage there. And there were 3 suspects there

[brittle sable]

Stingers have the same effect as flashbangs atm

[crystal sierra]

I hate the fact that the AI does not have any kind of awareness of the map layout overall. When they are clearing, two are going to the left and two to the right regardless of the map layout in general, if door you are entering from is exacly next to the wall, and rest of the room is big open space, only two of them will go to clear rest of the room, while two will stay by the wall next to the door.

[brittle sable]

thats kinda how doctrine is
you form an L in the room then once that L is in place you do everything else

[summer copper]

im fairly sure they have a larger AoE

[brittle sable]

dont think so, if so its a really small difference
same duration though

[summer copper]

i usually just run gas anyway, easily the most effective

especially indoors

[stone bay]

SWAT 4 can get really tense, with no music, and seeing doors left open.

[alpine kindle]

why can't these bots understand to fucking shoot 2 enemies in standing point black in front of me aaaah!!!!!

[brittle sable]

the only point where ill say this isnt true is hallways
they get fucking dumb on hallways sometimes

[brittle sable]

replay?

[crystal sierra]

It is ,,standard practice" yes, but why would you clear just for the puposse of staying there when it's obviously clear, morgue on relapse is prime example, if there is like 3 suspects inside the room, they all surrendered, they will swiple whole room first before they cuff them, in meantime, while they are running around the room, suspect will exit from surrender state and just start shooting again.

[brittle sable]

if they end up at their PoD with no open thresholds to deal with they look either at subjects or center of the room, dont remember exactly which
ive never had them not cap a guy who fake surrenders

[alpine kindle]

don't use recording. But using shield and flashes only so i can push the open areas on hide and seek hoping these stupid bots will act on active fire. but no on the last part they decide to just stand there while everyone is getting shot at

typo from frustration

[crystal sierra]

My point is, i would understand if you for example send both teams to clear specific room, red team clears / swipes the room, while blue is holding suspects to not do anything aka fake surrender, much more natural.

[brittle sable]

would love to see recordings when people post ai complaints icl
would make it so much easier to analyse

[alpine kindle]

meh, just me outing frustrations on these bots stupidity not expecting doubt there is anything to be changed on it

enemies clearly were in vision bots had no hold order falling in single line both enemies were exposed in front taking fire and they just stood there clueless

they just failed to respond i suppose

[stone bay]

Are you careful in your approach or just go loud?

[alpine kindle]

it's for these moments a handgun with rubber bullets would be so helpful so you can force serrunder them

it was in the hanger of hide and seek which is an open area, so careful approach clearing angle by angle

[tough spire]

Formation type helps with shield on player I think

[alpine kindle]

well, the thing is. they all had vision on the shooting they even took fire when i was forced into cover from almost dying

still no reponse

[crystal sierra]

Playing CS rn, will give you picture example later of what i meant

[alpine kindle]

when you know the room is clear give them the fall in command which is my default. otherwise they continue to act on the open and clear command type untill they meet the next open section

fall in command usually will cause them to tie up everything in the room

[crystal sierra]

That works usually but problem is the big corridors on maps like relapse where is too risky to push by yourself, like i said, will explain what i meant when i finish CS match,

[alpine kindle]

alright

[alpine kindle]

2 hostiles and 1 civ, hostile close to civ refuses to serrunder.
shieldbash the hostile and hit the civ in the process
--> use of unauthorized force...
😂

[leaden hamlet]

can you get achievements with mods ?

[foggy zinc]

i believe so

[tacit scaffold]

anyone up to crash watchmen?

im in his server x

[crystal sierra]

I literary can't find anywhere blueprint of relapse overall wtf

[alpine kindle]

there is a map layout on the phone?

[stone bay]

What we doing about the preacher

[alpine kindle]

almost had hide and seek on S but 1 officer decide to die on me ;_;

[stone bay]

I think some doorways act like walls or there’s certain invisible boundaries

[summer copper]

nothing is being done about the preacher currently

[tacit scaffold]

hes in multiple lobbies somehow

[stone bay]

Yeah I don’t think they can do anything lol

[crystal sierra]

Talking about internet, can't find blueprints anywhere, there is updated blueprint for new farm map, even going west one with hidden tunnels, but, can't find hospital anywhere

[stone bay]

Unless he’s botting

[summer copper]

wdym? there is a floorplan on the tablet

[crystal sierra]

I'm saying for outside of the game overall, if i want to place a picture or something, there is no floor plan of relapse on google anywhere

[stone bay]

Screenshot the one in game

[summer copper]

ohh my bad

[stone bay]

Does your team split up, or always stick together?

[umbral oar]

how do you do this

[midnight goblet]

How do u use head cam replay mode

[tacit scaffold]

multiple people chemlight spammin

[alpine kindle]

ok, i am calling it. there is something seriously wrong with bots isnide the hanger on hide and seek. again they don't act on any of the orders given or gunfire...

lack of options to move and clear, unresponsive to gun fire. the hanger seriously need to be improved

[stone bay]

RoN would remain realistic right? Just that I've been looking at R6 Siege and... yeah it seems they have become more sci fi based.

[stone bay]

There’s probably invisible walls or something

[tacit scaffold]

R6 has always been more focused on tactics, mechanics and not realism

[stone bay]

R6 is not that tactical tbh

It’s all about sound like COD SnD

[stone bay]

Apparently a lot of the tech isn’t that far off in the future tho

[tacit scaffold]

Depends on your definiton of tactics, R6 has a ton of gadgets and other things that need to be planned somewhat decently as a team to get the best usage out of

[stone bay]

Maybe I sound kinda pretentious. But I do like SWAT more since it takes it seriously. I get that Siege has its own appeal though.

Oh yeah it’s a fun shooter but it’s characters and maps are “swat” based

It it don’t play like a swat game

[stone bay]

Know how in Swat game, the team sticks together and clears each room together? R6, it seems that they go on their own ways.

Well yeah each guy is like a John wick

[tacit scaffold]

The wall destruction mechanics are fun to utalize but some of the gadgets are over the top annoying

[stone bay]

And it’s funny. It was supposed to be like ready or not

[stone bay]

Imagine how unfair it'll be if SWAT operators attack them.

[tacit scaffold]

True, ubisoft never makes up its mind tho

[stone bay]

The proof of concept was very cool

Yea. When the beta came out I deleted it real fast

It was also nothing like R six Vegas

[tacit scaffold]

The operators are more PMC than they are police

[stone bay]

SWAT games forces the player to be careful at all times

Well it’s more so, you’re getting engaged from any angle

But yeah the ttk is like super fast

Just comparing SWAT teams with R6 ones

How long it takes for SWAT operator to get incapitated? Is there difficulty modes?

Oh I actually think it’s pretty much the same

Well I’m Ready or not

You can definitely take more bullets

Which is funny

[kindred temple]

swat ai is even more broken now

thank you come again, greased palms, sins of the father, relapse and hide and seek

they ignore my commands on these maps most of the time

[stone bay]

I still get careful at all times. One suspect is enough to cause terror lol

[kindred temple]

suspects on relapse and hide and seek are the most dangerous ones

idk why tbh

[stone bay]

Imagine getting all these gadgets from R6 for RoN

[kindred temple]

drone with taser?

[stone bay]

Yup. How's R6's enemies compared to SWAT's?

[kindred temple]

no idea i never played r6

[summer copper]

a drone would be cool

[tacit scaffold]

The ai in R6 is very dumb but the real players on multiplayer are even dumber

[stone bay]

Seeing those guys sprinting room to room in R6 is pretty funny, compared to SWAT 4 where any room must be treated with caution.

[tacit scaffold]

the ai missions in r6 are simply there to teach you mechanics for multiplayer, the game has little story

[summer copper]

the dumbasses are only on your team, enemies are cracked

[tacit scaffold]

yes but your teammates are players in r6, no ai

[shrewd gull]

just before i reinstall- does the AI still have wallhacks?

[stone bay]

Actually, is the multiplayer there just teammates forever fighting against each other for training?

[kindred temple]

i dont think you can make much use of it since enemies relocate

[crystal sierra]

Don't be like that, R6 players are smartest people in the world, always silent, they never talk, you can play in peace, you totally don't need any kind of info during the match xD

[tacit scaffold]

The ai locks onto your head with like 60% accuracy, they do reduced weapon dmg for a reason

[tacit scaffold]

mfs puting a hard wall next to my mirra 😢

[stone bay]

How you compare SWAT players to R6 players? In breaching/teamwork etc...

[tacit scaffold]

mehhh, havent touched a swat game

[crystal sierra]

He means realistic shooters in general. It's not comparable overall. After all, R6 is long gone from realistic anyways.

[summer copper]

STOP THATS LITERALLY EVERY RANKED MATCH

[kindred temple]

i have no idea what you guys are talking about

[summer copper]

rainbow six siege

[tacit scaffold]

ohh in that case then, r6 is like the fortnite of swat games ngl

[crystal sierra]

Played 1 match, like hour ago, had some caveira who was following me ( smoke ) around the site, had to TK to get her from my back, lol.

[stone bay]

Just that my brother has played Siege for long hours. Favourite game. So I have to compare.

[crystal sierra]

I didn't play R6, i was losing my soul over it, have more then 7000 hours on record xDDDD Most of that are soloQ as well

[stone bay]

SWAT: Alright, we have to open and clear. Deploy a flashbang and check all the corners the....

R6: Leeerrroooyyy.... (Starts smashing barriers)

(Barely played Siege but that's the impression I got seeing it.

Also, I get that R6 Siege is fun. In fact, its actually rather charming to see where it is now.

[leaden hamlet]

i have to do one more mission at S rank and i have no idea which map it is

[kindred temple]

wdym like you skipped it?

[tacit scaffold]

me studying 24/7 at R6 university so i dont accidentally cover up a rotation wall and get teamkilled

[crystal sierra]

What if i tell you that the i'm getting a way more info from players in RoN then in R6? xDDD

[stone bay]

Check was tattoo ur missing

[stone bay]

What you mean?

[shrewd gull]

but is the AI still having unrealistic reaction speeds?

[crystal sierra]

Most of the players in R6 are mostly silent, toallty silent, not a word during whole match. Even if it's competitive shooter

[stone bay]

No

They can run up behind you, you will have time to line up a shot

[tacit scaffold]

Nah in R6 they turn slow for some reason

[stone bay]

I mean, RoN means that they have to focus on cooperation. Are the players in R6 mostly lone wolf? That's the impression I got.

[summer copper]

fuck rando siege mates

[stone bay]

Games really easy now if you have good ears

[tacit scaffold]

R6 was supposed to be teambased but they have operators like ram who can do everything solo

[shrewd gull]

Ah i might give it another go- I went for achievements was near impossible.. @tacit scaffold I was asking about RoN, not R6... cos this is the RON Discussion channel lol.

[summer copper]

you can play it in a team if you have a stack, but theres too many operators that benefit from solo play

and its all anyone does

[stone bay]

Yeah, that's what I thought. In SWAT, you have to work with your team.

[tacit scaffold]

Yeah, we are comparing R6, ron and other swatgames

The ai is defiently better in ron now, they land less shots but they still have crazy reaction speed

[stone bay]

Like 1 operator can take down 5 on their own. Good luck trying to clear the rooms by yourself for SWAT.

[shrewd gull]

ok. 1.0 was just painful lol. ill give it another go.

[summer copper]

exactly lol people get aces all the time, but even attempt to play ANY RoN map solo and youll get clapped if you arent a 1000 hour sweatlord

[kindred temple]

i have a feeling suspects on relapse have increased accuracy and damage

[crystal sierra]

Pretty much, in R6 you kind of need to report everyting to teammates in order to have proper callout, you see hole in the wall, you report it, you hear someone below / above you, you report it, It's tense af to play in solo in general, because you are mostly forced to play support / fill role where your objective is to literary plant, on top of that, you will provably don't have any kind of cover while planting, cuz, everyone wants kills, not to win the round. Most of community watches highly skilled pro players or streamers and try to copy them pretty much.

[stone bay]

Yup. There's one player who had 500 hours at RoN. And in the video, he still received damage lol.

[crystal sierra]

Guys in blue sweeters have 500 round mags before they reload xD

[leaden hamlet]

I have everything unlocked albaring the peradeath mode

[kindred temple]

i cant even explain how a one shot in the arm from an akm decreases half of my judge’s health

[stone bay]

Ever imagine how SWAT operators would react to R6 operators coming to take control? Like the Avengers saying they'll take it from here.

[fast wraith]

how do you heal?

[kindred temple]

you dont

[tacit scaffold]

You can only stop yourself from bleeding to death, other than that you have to return to station to get your health back

[crystal sierra]

Ash rushing RoN AIs can deal with them all alone xD

[kindred temple]

suspect ai’s*

[fast wraith]

and how do you do that?

[summer copper]

you cant

[kindred temple]

hold f when told

[tacit scaffold]

when your screen goes red it tells you to hold F

you can bleed out in like 3 seconds so make sure to take cover

[crystal sierra]

Hold F and pray, cuz paying respect is not an option xDDD

[kindred temple]

not in 3 seconds

[jolly verge]

Stopping bleed will return you health back to 50% if it under that value

[kindred temple]

i was bleeding for more than 3 seconds

[stone bay]

RoN operators watching some archeologist clear the entire hospital by herself:

[tacit scaffold]

damn sometimes i bleed to death in half a second

[jolly verge]

bleeding is 3hp/sec

[tacit scaffold]

oooooo so it actually tics hp and isnt RNG?

[jolly verge]

yeap

[crystal sierra]

More you are injured, less time you have to patch bleeding. If you have injured both legs and arms, you will die almost instant

[kindred temple]

wtf is the point in heavy armor

can someone explain because i just don’t get it

[tacit scaffold]

its cool

[jolly verge]

side plates

[kindred temple]

they do absolutely jack shit

[stone bay]

In R6, they still complete the objective right?

[jolly verge]

wdym

[tacit scaffold]

What patch / update was it that changed the way armor functioned? it used to physically blockl bullets but now it blocks bullets whatever direction you're shot from

[crystal sierra]

You can tank some more bullets but will take away your speed. You know already how leaning is slow etc

[kindred temple]

they’re useless in my opinion

[kindred temple]

i dunno i feel like its the same

[stone bay]

Playing SWAT 4, I can't even imagine clearing the room by myself. I still get down even though there's only one suspect, and his back was turned against me.

[kindred temple]

not the speed, the damage am getting

[jolly verge]

if it's ceramic and you front plate is broken you can rotate and tank with them

[crystal sierra]

Try Front / Back light armor with ceramic, best combo overall. You have speed and decent protection

[tacit scaffold]

"Armor is now more consistent in gameplay. Incoming rounds will be blocked based on the direction the player is facing, not their 3d model"

kinda wack tbh

[stone bay]

Could you clear a room by yourself by the way? In the game.

[kindred temple]

thats what ive been always using lol

[kindred temple]

Armorer

[crystal sierra]

Armorer and nutritionist will get you if i remember correctly around 25% more health and armor

[kindred temple]

i know

[thorny warren]

i just realised there is a balcony with no doors on the second map

[alpine kindle]

and my shieldguy died again cuz i can't give him a fucking rubber handgun!

[crude prism]

this is a good change for players, it makes your front armor more reliable, where previously you would get clipped in the side by people standing at like 11 and 10 o'clock
#🎨ron-screenshots-and-art message

[kindred temple]

dont use shield guys wtf

[stone bay]

How many bullets one can take with armor?

[jolly verge]

but they need to be locked to work...

[tacit scaffold]

True, espeically when clearing rooms when you have enemies on the side of you

[crystal sierra]

And i'm telling you again, noone will send frontman with non-lethal weapon to push first, frontman / entry must first return fire. Instead of utilizing shield, use VKS + Beanbag on both teams, by that you will have both teams balanced

[alpine kindle]

you also don't send a shield man with completely nothing but his shield. i get what you mean and i agree. but this is simply how devs force us to play when in S tier nothing is allowed to die

[stone bay]

Is there a tactical shield?

[crude prism]

Ye, unless you're properly flanked to the side/rear, basically everything will hit your front plate

[tacit scaffold]

Yes theres a shield but its very unoptimal unless you have an experienced player using it

[tacit scaffold]

So, are leg / arm shots now RNG?

[crystal sierra]

AI is more precise then you anyways, give them VKS and beanbag and they will live. Everything else is your skill issue, if you are scared to play without shield, i completed all my S ranks without shield, had no problems overall

[alpine kindle]

m8 all ur advice + more i am doing

and not to be arrogant but, my aim outplays these ai

when i go with lethal rounds i don't need these bots to clean house

[crude prism]

From what I can tell, only the torso hit calculation is affected by the change to the armor hitzones that they did.

Visually shooting the 3d model of limbs/head will still give the expected results (hurt limbs and head)

[crystal sierra]

Then take VKS or beanbag yourself and push always first. There is no excuse overall because it's very doable overall. Learn to control AI well and you will suceed

[tacit scaffold]

ok good

[crystal sierra]

It's fun to me that the suspects always surrender when shot in legs with VKS, if you shoot them in torso they will move around but not shot back, lol.

[crude prism]

"suppressing fire near legs" moment

[drifting burrow]

i wish flashlights wouldn't shine on windows so brightly. you literally have to turn it off to see through it lmao. the funny thing is, if you shine a flashlight through a car window on the buy cheap buy twice level, it looks completely fine

[muted star]

Windows in this game are just weird

[crystal sierra]

Can be seen best in Brisa cove overall, VKS is gas based, but until you shoot them in the legs they will not surrender xD

[drifting burrow]

yeah i dont really understand them. its terrible on the voll mansion level when you get in that one adjacent hallway and theres several small windows that look into the living room

[crystal sierra]

Clear courtyard first, then house itself, problem fixed

[drifting burrow]

well yeah ive already beat the level a long ass time ago, im just talking about the windows

i think its the same case in the gas station too

[kindred temple]

bruh what the fuck i got shredded right off the spawn in greased palms

[main anvil]

I played RON like a month ago and stopped because of the performance, did they fix it?

[kindred temple]

kinda

theres been a recent patch out that fixes stuttering

[main anvil]

Uh let me check

Hotfix #4 ?

[summer copper]

yes

[kindred temple]

okay now this is just unfair im gonna extract early

[main anvil]

Alright, cuz like on the School level or college idk it was really laggy when i entered

on a rtx 3070

[kindred temple]

might just go shoot first ask later rn

[main anvil]

Downloading rn.

[jolly verge]

you mean stutters or just fps drop?

[stone bay]

What settings u have

[main anvil]

Not even drops, it was on 25fps generally on some maps

[stone bay]

If you are trying to run it on everything epic I recommend only having textures epic

Everything else medium low

[jolly verge]

and what dx you use?

[main anvil]

i'am playing at 94 fps for e.g and enter a building and it drops to 20

[main anvil]

wdym dx?

[jolly verge]

his card can easly handle epic

[stone bay]

2080ti 90fps besides drops to like 75

[jolly verge]

directx

[main anvil]

I use 11

[stone bay]

12 or 11

[main anvil]

i tried 12 even more lags

[jolly verge]

man wat, use 12

[stone bay]

Use 12

[main anvil]

i will try now.

[jolly verge]

lags on 12 is just shader compiling

just play a bit and they gone

[main anvil]

I tried a month ago like where it was hotfix 2

[main anvil]

Oh, alright.

So it laggs in the beginning, you say?

[jolly verge]

yes, that how dx12 work in general, compilies shaders on demand

[main anvil]

Oh, well i didn't know that it was because of dx

[jolly verge]

but you need play every map to compile them all

[main anvil]

Yeah, how long does the compiling take?

On one map?

[stone bay]

Oh dx12 is like Vulcan?

[jolly verge]

well, it's depends

[stone bay]

Gets better with play

[main anvil]

On the size, yeah.

[jolly verge]

i mean it's compile shader only when it's appear on screen

[stone bay]

Keep shadows low, Post process low

Textures epic

Vfx high or epic

View distance high or epic

[main anvil]

Alright will do so

[stone bay]

AA medium

I’m running 1440p too

[jolly verge]

view distance need to be tweaked, cause default values to low even on epic

[stone bay]

So maybe up the AA on 1080

[main anvil]

.

He said view distance to be changed

[stone bay]

Depends really on view distance

[main anvil]

It's going to be faster if it's higher i know.

[stone bay]

Difference maps have different pop ins on different settings

[main anvil]

Yeah

[stone bay]

So it’s annoying

lol 😂 but yeah that’s my settings game looks good and it runs above 75

The game seems to not like running past 90fps just my 2 cents I noticed.

[main anvil]

lol

Are you using VSync?

[stone bay]

It runs 120 for me. But the game like glitches

Walk movement starts being weird

Idk if it’s an engine thing.

[main anvil]

Could bew

be*

Wait halloween can you vc?

Im downloading ron rn

[stone bay]

I’m not available for phone calls right now

Haha jk nah I can’t

[main anvil]

Oh, alright.

[main anvil]

That's what u said xD

[stone bay]

I meant like it’s not that serious

But yeah the game 100%

[main anvil]

OH LMAO

[stone bay]

Runs better

[main anvil]

okay, imma go then setting it

[alpine kindle]

act of valor achievement done only 0.2%

[umbral oar]

trying to get these achievements trained me to hit alt f4 every time something bad happens

[alpine kindle]

you can also put your officers on hold and just let the first hostile you find kill you. same result much quicker

[umbral oar]

i was doing ironman

[alpine kindle]

ah in that case nvm

[fast wraith]

how do i start a mission by my own without the swat team?

[alpine kindle]

go multiplayer in a friends only session

[tacit scaffold]

New optimization is lovely, im getting around 2x the fps

[junior depot]

What settings? I'm wondering if I can run epic AA & post-processing now instead of high

[tacit scaffold]

Im on the high preset

I used to have to run the game on medium

[gloomy thistle]

does the achievement way out west work now?

[kindred temple]

it always worked wdym

[inland wolf]

Coyote (Rust Belt)

look up the criteria

or else you will oull your hair out trying to figure what is voiding your achievement

[crude prism]

make sure to hold your breath the whole time or else the achievement fails

list of things not to do:
breathe
fire a gun that isn't the .357
command the AI
throw grenades
open the tac map
read lists of things that tell you what not to do

[tacit scaffold]

breath??

like not hold your breath while aiming?

[umbral oar]

no your mic is always active and it can hear you breathe into the mic

[tacit scaffold]

thats so wild wtf

[crude prism]

imagine if they put a hold-breath mechanic in for some reason, goofy af

"gotta hold muh 12x scope steady"

[kindred temple]

you just gotta hold your breath for at least 20 minutes

[tacit scaffold]

so armor is fine and i have to pick up every suspect right?

[crude prism]

the real answer is that you just need to do the level in commander or practice, and not issue commands or use any utility/weapons besides the .357

[tacit scaffold]

oh easy

[kindred temple]

you can command ai

[tacit scaffold]

just regular stuff n cuff

[crude prism]

I did the challenge like 5 times, told the AI to hold in spawn each time, and it would never proc the achievement.

Did it with the AI just trailing behind me, gave it to me first try

[earnest phoenix]

is the opening tablet thing for real

[kindred temple]

i doubt it was the ai

i saw a guy doing this achievement and he commanded AI to search and secure

[earnest phoenix]

ive heard it doesnt work if you command ai but idk

[kindred temple]

no wtf

why do you need swat ai then

[crude prism]

🤷 I can only speak from my own experience, and other people have reported the same thing after I told them to stop giving the AI orders

commanding the AI will ruin the run

[earnest phoenix]

void is nearly beating payday 2 with their vague ass achievement descriptions

[long cypress]

i think it's because your AI teammates kill everyone with their AR's, so that might be stopping us from getting the achievement

[crude prism]

the AI can kill everyone, and you'll still get the achievement, as long as you just waltz around with the .357 out

that's how people are cheesing the "only use taser on port" achievement too

[earnest phoenix]

now seeing people saying that using equipement, shield, night vision or even switching to your primary means you dont get the achievement

[kindred temple]

you spawn with the primary

[drifting burrow]

i commanded the ai and it worked ok

[kindred temple]

like already in your hands

[alpine kindle]

would like an option to not have to primary only using pistols

[crude prism]

certifiably good achievement design "vague and unhelpful"

[drifting burrow]

i think what i did is take out all the mags and grenades, and just put all of it to the revolver. then i just used nothing but the revolver, mostly just let the swat ai go ahead and do its thing though

[earnest phoenix]

"Allowed:
Both practice mode and commander mode
Yell for compliance
Arresting
Collecting Evidence
Opening Doors
Using the Taser
Using Flashbangs
Using Bash
AI Lockpicking
AI Arresting and Collect Evidence

Not Allowed:
You cannot lockpick
Both you and your squad are not allowed to have any headgear other than No Helmet or Helmet Only. This includes NVGS, Ballistics Masks, ect
I had AI do nothing but Open and Clear. No equipment
Both you and your squad are NOT allowed to have the Ballistics Shield or use it"
Wow the description really makes everything clear for sure

silly old me for thinking that "using only taser, flashbangs and bash" allowed me to use a helmet and lockpick door

[crude prism]

fucking helmets disable the port achievement? I know 100% I was wearing ballistic mask for the coyote one

[drifting burrow]

when they said bash i thought that meant i could use that one battering ram, then i didn't get the achievement when i tried it. didn't know bashing meant kicking lmaoo

[drifting burrow]

nuh uh im pretty sure i had nvgs

[earnest phoenix]

imma try it real quick following these port rules on coyote and ill see if i get it

[upbeat wadi]

the new hotfix installed itself and now steam says it's "installing" and not actually doing anything

[shy tulip]

Press pause in the downloads tab and then press play, I think it's just a UI bug from Steam.

It showed as nothing happening for me but when I did that it then went straight to 100%.

[upbeat wadi]

yeah it's finishing up now

didn't go straight to 100% but it started moving

still, almost two hours to install a damn hotfix, i don't know if i've seen anything like that before

[umbral oar]

I had ball mask and got it

[hardy plinth]

Is the Five-Seven too strong?

Yes I know it's a PVE game and yes it is a sidearm and most primaries will be stronger

but it feels like it does better than other pistols in almost every category

Largest mag size by far and penetrates l3 armor

[tough spire]

They don't

[summer copper]

kinda yeah, in terms of realism its pretty much bang on tho

5.7x28mm is a tough ass round

[bright valley]

There's an argument to be made for the USP versus unarmored and L2 armored targets, but generally yeah, I think the Five-seveN is really really dominant in the pistol selection.

[summer copper]

S ranking a lethal obsession was incredibly easy

[tough spire]

Basically all the real-world reasons we don't use the 5-7 don't matter in a game, so yeah, on paper it rules which means in a video game it rules.

[hardy plinth]

there's like 5 enemies in that entire map

[bright valley]

The real-world reasons: $$$$$

[hardy plinth]

idk maybe they could increase the recoil to balance it out

[tough spire]

Mostly this ☝️ it's expensive as heeeeeeeeck

[hardy plinth]

I don't imagine the recoil on all the weapons is incredibly true to life

[tough spire]

If you want realistic recoil go to Ground Branch. If you want to argue with their representations watch all their reference videos. lol

[hardy plinth]

I don't really care so much for guns in real life so personally I'd take balancing over perfect realism

[tough spire]

That's a just fine take tbh. Carry on. 😄

[hardy plinth]

that said there should be these hovering health packs in parts of the map and when you walk over them your character goes "aaaaaaaahhhhh, that's the spot" or something

or some cool glowing power ups that allow you to shoot fire balls for 30 seconds

the game really needs this

[tough spire]

I hope you mod this game someday. I would play that.

[frail dove]

anyone wanna play

[tough spire]

#🔎looking-for-players is where you wanna go my bro

[upbeat wadi]

is the car shop gonna be a doozy?

[frail dove]

ha ok ty

[upbeat wadi]

ive heard it's pretty hard

[tough spire]

It's dark and a lot of windows and angles. Play safe and slow and you'll do fine

[umbral oar]

love legging people under the garage doors

[verbal ember]

yo i need help

is anyone else having an issue when loading up the game the DPI feels different?

in-game too

not happening on desktop, not happening if i alt-tab, simply just on RON

[summer copper]

it doesnt have to be, its still a video game

[summer copper]

that is a fine idea

[summer copper]

just change your sens if its buggin ya

[upbeat wadi]

thanks

im in the middle of this mission right now, got too intense so im taking a smoke break lmao

my methodical approach went out the window literally 30 seconds in, only just got control back

the good news is we dropped or arrested like 8 bad guys, that HAS to be about half right?

plus for a change these don't seem to be ultimate badasses like the ones in the previous like 8 missions already, e.g. they actually surrender when there's 5 swat team members shooting at them and no backup in sight

haven't seen that since before ides of march

[craggy yew]

You should see what these neon tomb suspects do in those situations

[upbeat wadi]

i think i got lucky with neon, beat it on my second try

[tacit scaffold]

Whats the point of "Post Process qaulity"? I disabled it and my game looks and runs smoother

[upbeat wadi]

and i was sorta drunk so not very methodical at all, saw how many doors and hallways there were and just went fuck it, let's just run around like a herd of mustangs

nobody got suicude vest'd, surprisingly, in fact i think all four of my guys made it

by the way did they increase the number of suspects per mission to compensate for the lack of crack? i check in with the soft objectives guide on steam as i play to make sure i don't miss anything and there's a screenshot of an S run at the end of each mission. in my runs, the number of suspects is consistently 30-50% higher

[upbeat wadi]

okay i got all the suspects, cant find the undercover officer

o-okay, found him

damn this game gets dark

[shy tulip]

Car dealer moment

[upbeat wadi]

why was there some sort of radio recording of a woman reading a fairy tale in russian

i thought i opened something on youtube or wherever and went through all my tabs looking for it

but it was ingame, what the hell

[summer copper]

as in content or as in actual light level

[upbeat wadi]

content

doesnt actually get dark enough in terms of lighting, there's been literally one mission so far where NVGs are of any use

when i read the briefing for rust belt i thought, okay well THIS one is definitely gonna be dark and NVG friendly, especially since it's obviously inspired (to put it mildly) by sicario and in that one they all went NVG

nope the whole tunnel was lit up better than the street outside my place

[summer copper]

yeah it gets pretty damn dark

[summer copper]

lol i feel ya, got pretty lucky myself, or maybe just good aim

i shot the vest guy in the chest/neck and he didn't blow

[craggy yew]

Ambatablow

[summer copper]

omaygot ambatublowwwww

[upbeat wadi]

get outta here, it's gonna blow

[vestal mauve]

I use NVGs on Sins of the Father

[upbeat wadi]

gotta admit, for all the faults ready or not may have compared to swat 4, it definitely handles the concepts that were infuriatingly badly balanced in swat 4 better

like the bomb mission, took me like 2 or 3 tries as opposed to 76

[craggy yew]

Bomb missions gotta be the most unnecessary stressful part of ready or not

[upbeat wadi]

and the scoring system is definitely way, WAY fairer

[shy tulip]

You mean you don't like getting shot in your foot and losing S ranks?

[upbeat wadi]

im not even going for S ranks yet, but in swat 4 you got slapped with unauthorized use of force penalties at the drop of a hat and it MASSIVELY impacted your score

it was very common to finish a mission and find out you actually failed it because you only got 53/100 points thanks to shooting back at suspects who were shooting at you (they were 0.2 seconds into their surrendering animation)

ready or not doesn't pull that shit, you only get those penalties for 100% clear cut situations like headshotting suspects on their knees with their hands up, and even then the penalty isn't that harsh

also people seem to forget how useless the "breach with bang/stinger/gas" commands were in swat 4, cause your dudes would literally drop the grenade on the room's doorstep and bang YOU

[upbeat wadi]

it was several orders of magnitude worse in swat 4

[covert lava]

have the devs told us anything about the themes or missions about the dlcs or did we just get the names for now?

[shy tulip]

More info Soon™️

[covert lava]

👍

[hasty oak]

why they never fix spawn point for brisa

[upbeat wadi]

the swat 4 bomb mission was a hotel map with two floors, like 20 suspects all decked out in armor and carrying serious business guns (and hiding in bathrooms very often which made taking them down without getting penalized for unauthorized use of force REALLY difficult), and there was like 5 or 7 bombs, not 2

[hasty oak]

swat 3 hospital + nuke

[upbeat wadi]

the cherry on top is that if you got shot in the legs at any point, that was essentially a game over because it was physically impossible to get to all the bombs in time

ides of march looks like gas station next to that shit

if you must have a bomb mission, ready or not handled it much better

[upbeat wadi]

good god late game maps are unreasonably huge and open

i rate carriers of the vine 7 heart attacks out of 10

[acoustic eagle]

mexican gangsters on greased palms still more accurate than secret service agents and russian and middle eastern terrorists

[vale tangle]

clearly you have never seen footage of middle eastern terrorists fighting, they do not know how to shoot

[acoustic eagle]

i've kept my helmet intact doing non lethal in all the missions involving those 3 types of enemies but trying to do the post office first encounter instant helm removal

guess the cartel should be feared

[upbeat wadi]

very heavily depends on which terrorists we're talking about, the houthis (who i assume are the ones in neon, since it says they're from northern yemen) are often trained by iranian elite forces, and have been fighting a very bloody war for like a decade now

[vale tangle]

houthis are like a local militia force making a play for the yemeni government though, the fact the hand is a terror cell makes me think they're more analagous to the islamic state in iraq

but of course from yemen

[upbeat wadi]

make no mistake, local militias are no joke with proper training and experience. that's why, say, the vietnamese army was strong enough by 1978 to kinda-sorta win a war against goddamn china, and why ISIS steamrolled the iraqi armed forces in the initial offensives

[royal pier]

🍿

casual RON argument

[vale tangle]

no no I say local militia as to say they wouldn't have cells in the continental US

[normal trout]

kill em all

[vale tangle]

which afaik the houthis don't

they just have dumb supporters who have twitch channels

[upbeat wadi]

oh that, yeah they're nowhere near big enough or well funded enough for that. i guess the devs just didn't want to go with ISIS cause everyone's sick of hearing about them after being bombarded with it for like 5 years

[vale tangle]

yeah also yemen since the mission came out has been the new hotbed for terror activity in the middle east

[upbeat wadi]

and going with syrian rebels, hamas or hezbollah would have raised an unbelievable shitstorm online

[vale tangle]

I think hamas or qassam is the same local militia case as the houthis

[shy tulip]

Everyone knows RoN has a time traveler department which predicts events

[upbeat wadi]

i'm surprised it didn't happen as it is, the mission is very obviously a reference to bataclan which is basically france's 9/11, and it only happened like 7 years ago

[royal pier]

just shocks me how people can be so stupid like when sombody attacks a county then protest like that’s going to do shit (completely unrelated just a random thought I had)

[vale tangle]

as for hezbollah I don't know much about them asides from the obvious Iranian connection

[upbeat wadi]

hamas is an order of magnitude better funded and better trained, plus their MO is a lot more about covert terror attacks and such, not just a plain old infantry war which is what houthis would be more likely to have experience with

[upbeat wadi]

there's a reason it's set in 2025

[acoustic eagle]

i had a funny bug i was cuffing someone and they bled out and i could no longer use my gun

[upbeat wadi]

your character was so shocked by what he'd done he swore he would never fire another round

[vale tangle]

I think any perceived training or tactical inclination that hamas has is mostly just do the their circumstances

[upbeat wadi]

so begins the story of judge, the pacifist swat team leader

[vale tangle]

they operate over an extremely dense target rich environment that happens to be filled with civilians

[normal trout]

better not go to any clubs in 2025

[vale tangle]

and they leverage those civilians for the purpose of being human shields

[upbeat wadi]

well even before the currently ongoing shitstorm there were occasional attacks inside israel where one hamas combatant or a small cell up to like 5 members shot up a cafés and clubs, stabbed people on some random street, etc. you'd expect whoever organized those to be better suited for organizing what happens in neon than houthis

by occasional i mean a few per year

[vale tangle]

true but that's due to the nature of the war they're fighting and proximity to their enemy

which is another unique circumstance for them, most of these terror groups don't have the ability to launch missile barrages to their great enemy from the cover that they have

[upbeat wadi]

ISIS did the same thing in europe rather successfully until ISIS got annihalted 🤷‍♀️

[vale tangle]

which is why I think the hand is more in line with isis

[upbeat wadi]

as far as i understand usually by recruiting people already in country, not shipping them from like iraq or syria

[upbeat wadi]

yep exactly. like i said, neon tomb is basically bataclan: california edition

[vale tangle]

well yeah that's far easier than shipping out people who would stick out like a sore thumb in the west

[upbeat wadi]

plus there's a major social problem in france in particular (I don't know about the rest of western europe, could be in those places too) where second and third gen immigrants born to muslim parents feel kind of alienated both by arabs/muslims from The Old Country and non-muslim locals, and as a result they grow up angry and resentful and become easy pickins for islamist cults (domestic and foreign like ISIS)

they usually come from impoverished neighborhoods too, which compounds the resentment towards "mainstream" french people and makes it even easier to recruit them for the likes of ISIS (what kid from a family on welfare is gonna turn down a $10k payday)

[vale tangle]

yeah that and groups like that actually tended to prey on the "bad muslims" or ones who didn't actually follow the core tennets of the religion, sinners if you will, because if I can recal correctly jihad is one of the surefire ways to get into jannah

[upbeat wadi]

it's the only way really, thing is jihad doesn't only mean "holy war against the infidels", it's basically any kind of struggle or fight that brings you closer to being a good muslim and/or advances the cause of islam. but yeah

also i think we should probably take it to general before we get a mod mad

[vale tangle]

like a lot of the time after an attack the person's personal details would come out and it would be revealed that they were drinking, adulterers, or engaged in another haram action

[vale tangle]

lol

"we're talking about neon tomb and relapse trust"

[inland wolf]

zahir asadullah would like to have a word with you

they have mispelled Qadamahs name like twice in the briefings

as Quadamah

[upbeat wadi]

and the graffiti in the actual mission says quadamah too, which is doubly weird because why would it be in latin script to begin with

and i don't even know what they meant with qadamah either, neither do the couple arabic speakers i asked

[static wigeon]

it would be more accurate if they wrote it in arabic script

or dont at all

[frail quartz]

They know english though

Like, if I'm trying to send a message to the enemy I'd probably write it in their original language

[static wigeon]

ah yeah

also as a Yemeni-American myself, i dont think those guys are Houthis since that isn't their mo. But i like to think they are a different militia

[summer copper]

they are americans

he is a terrorist

it is probably not important to swat officers how his name is spelled

[static wigeon]

anyways, i go in as RUF, Revolutionary United Front and just blast away anything in the mission.

[inland wolf]

well they want to get their message across, you have to use english

otherwise they just look and are like "huh, i have no idea what that says "

[bold sky]

man for a swat game some people have some weird woke obsession

first we gotta have female swat not bc of coomers but bc of gender equality

now the terrorists gotta be more invested and accurate

[stone bay]

What you mean?

[viscid yarrow]

WHERE IS THIS LAST IDIOT CIVILIAN ON TWISTED NERVE RAAAAAAAAGH

[stone bay]

What you mean? Anyone here is woke?

[fleet talon]

WOMP

[viscid yarrow]

it has been 20 minutes

[lethal sparrow]

How can I get high ready?

[fleet talon]

think he just talking about the fem boy modders, at least i hope he is and isnt completely stupid

[lethal sparrow]

I see lots of people do it.

[viscid yarrow]

???

[fleet talon]

settings

[viscid yarrow]

oh yeah high ready

[lethal sparrow]

How.

[fleet talon]

switch from low to high

[lethal sparrow]

I can't.

[fleet talon]

keybinds

[viscid yarrow]

i was thinking playing this game stoned

[fleet talon]

need me to guide you?

[lethal sparrow]

Yep.

[fleet talon]

hop in US 6 like RQ

@lethal sparrow

[lethal sparrow]

k

us 6?

[fleet talon]

yes, voip

[lethal sparrow]

US COOP?

[fleet talon]

ye

[lethal sparrow]

alr

[viscid yarrow]

i might be going bananas where is this last civilian

[winged hornet]

Shout alot

[lethal sparrow]

Check the back bathroom.

Thats where my last one was. Also had trouble.

[viscid yarrow]

what back bathroom

[lethal sparrow]

Like behind the house

[viscid yarrow]

guh?

whjich house is it behind of

[lethal sparrow]

The main one

the back of it, first floor

[viscid yarrow]

the littke cave shack?

[acoustic eagle]

what the...how's this lobby have 9 ppl in it

https://i.imgur.com/u6FL1Rw.png

[glass ether]

ingame menu

the mod

[acoustic eagle]

huh i didnt know unmodded ppl could queue into a modded lobby.

[stone bay]

gameplay settings

[stone bay]

yup, just gotta disabled serverside checksum

[lethal sparrow]

Did it thx

[mossy hatch]

if only the high ready looked good

[lethal sparrow]

lmao

[mossy hatch]

it looks decent in 3rd person but doesn't match in first person, here's a shitty quick vid I made about it #🎨ron-screenshots-and-art message

[minor ermine]

did they change dismemberment?