#š®ron-discussion
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carriers of the vine was definitely not an easy one
i should use C2 more often
i noticed my team has plenty of it by default but i never actually used it
No itās generally easy. Itās my favorite warm up mission in fact.
should take you about 10 minutes max, just keep moving. You can take C2 with you, or you can bring extra grenades, it doesnāt really matter. Just make sure, before playing through it the first time, that you check the layout.
i posted a map in #šØron-screenshots-and-art
Yeah, the only thing I carry is C2 and magazines
Until they add a full 16 inch M4 carbine, I will not be satisfied.
right here #šØron-screenshots-and-art message
Oh, when you go into the Cult Chapel! Make sure to shoot or throw a grenade at the idol. And then watch what happens.
i struggled a lot, so i turned off noswat and i managed it by sending my team instead of myself into high risk areas
Itās really cool
hewwo mr president
Itās just so bright outside i canāt see jack shit
Can anyone explain the difference between all of the AR variants to me? They look the same, they play the same, they got the same attachments, and besides a wealth of AR rifles I got barely any options if I want a rifle caliber.
There's exactly one bullpup rifle which to me looks odd considering most guns were scuffed for CQB adaptation, wouldn't it make sense to just grab bullpups right away
I suppose, but then youād have to shoot a bullpup. Thereās also the SA-58 which is chambered in 7.62x51.
There are differences in barrel length, attachments and recoil but they are all indeed very similar
The SA58 is another topic of my grief entirely
HUH how its goated
A full size FAL is goated, as well as G3, both added by a mod I use
Yes they are long, but they are also really accurate at long range and there's a scope that lets you get some actual use out of the gun being long range
The sawn off fal is just... why would you do that to a rifle
becuase its fun
"It's for CQB" they say, but there's more than only CQB in the game, and I've been having an absolute time running a G3 and a pistol for room cleaning
its good for range when i use it
One day we'll get an M1A
But it very much isn't, or at least not nearly as much fun as a properly sized FAL
But that's like the eighth time I went on this exact rant, I have a different rant today
Void
My beloved
Where bullpups?
When bullpups?
Why ten variants of AR15 but one bullpup?
And the other?
I wonder if the mp9/mp7 counts as one
It doesn't, they are PDW
In fact p90 is a PDW too
Definition of a bullpup is that the bullets are cycled behind the trigger
Gotta consult Jonathan Ferguson on that matter, definitions on "bullpup" are greatly differing
There's exactly one bullpup rifle and I don't understand why there's not a second one since we have ten AR15s
Okay fine, two bullpups, one is a rifle and one is an SMG
In a game built around CQB why is there one rifle built for CQB from the ground up if there's loads of them
It is built around CQB and I definitely agree that bullpups excel at CQB, but the game is also built around American police
You can have any rifle as long as it's AR15?
Game does branch out with its choices when it comes to weaponry. Not all of them are from America or used by American police. Bullpups definitely have a presence though.
all you need is an SBR they are better than bullpubs at least at reloading quickly i would imagine
SA-58s are standard issue in these US Law Enforcement Departments:
As are the F90s in these:
I love my SMG choices but I hate my rifle choices
Shotguns are... I dunno, there's a lot of configurations missing as well, just that the shotguns are rarely useful to me regardless, they are brutal
Shot a dude center mass, now a dude has one hand in total
I mean shoulda thought first before opening fire on police officers but that's kind of terrible
Saiga 12 was in use in Las Vegas police I think
Mag feed shotgun, why not
I can see it being useful to a swat team
Mag fed is about the only place shotguns could go
Unless they introduce a shorty or another shotgun load like 20g
KSG is cool, high cap little weird dude
Would be a blast for CQB wouldn't it
SAIGA OR AA12
KS-23 with flash loads when? Definitely commonplace in US law enforcement
or MP40 or a MG42
KS23 the russian artillery cannon shotgun?
yea
Is it commonplace in US?
its 4a 4 gauge right
I wouldn't know tbh
I'm sure it exists (maybe in single to double digits
)
There are about as many KS-23s over here as there are F90s (they do not exist)
Could also go full ham and ask for pancor jackhammer
Lol isn't there literally 1 of those made?
There's like three of those and only one of them allegedly works but los suenos PD has five of them
The absolute block of steel that is mag fed
And bullpup too I suppose
we could get the hellion
The what?
prob the ATF fault
How would they factor into a PD choosing weapons for a swat team
they dont want americans seeing guns in a video game then trying to get hands on them lol
Probably a little too late for that
Besides, the suspects get all kinds of fun guns
You load the first mission for the first time and there's your guy with a Calico
I like Void for some reason letting the guys on Gas Station get the equivalent of an SMG machine gun lmao
I prefer the f90 if using an AR in this game i feel like the recoil is easy. but love the smgs, and now the shotguns growing on me
I've seen up to 4/5 of them spawn with the calico before, it's ridiculous
I gotta check the game files later, I wonder if it has 50 or 100 capacity
dudes on gas having tech 9s lol
I don't use the rifles because I hate AR platform and the rest of the rifles must be a joke on me
VOID - AVOID. Im such a genius.
rifles would be better if this game had longer range maps and shootouts. but this feels like a knock off siege game at times
maybe add some overwatch positions and sniper nests etc
If you don't want an AR you can have:
ā a FAL cut in half
ā a G36 cut in half but differently
ā an AK cut in half
ā F90

Imagine my face when I saw G36C, thought to myself "finally, a short automatic rifle they won't need to make cursed" and then I see they took the top rail off the gun entirely
Just... why
"ergonomics"
Is it some sort of regulation LSPD can only have a select fire rifle if it's been cut down somehow
Get with the times old man, carryhandles are just a waste of space!
we want slimlined rails for all our goon gadgets
"Another area our artists have been working on is the review and improvement of some of our weapons. Back in the early days of development, we counted with a vast amount of references from many different sources. Today, having consulted with a number of military specialists and police forces, and after doing a major amount of further digging and research, we are working on revamping certain equipment to ensure a high level of fidelity to their actual counterparts. The first weapon receiving a rework will be the G36C" #announcements message
If you insist on a 5.56 gun with a rail, SG552 or whichever one of them is the shortest they get
Why not that
bc 300blk is so hot right now and everyone wants cool sbr
We should hold a competition to see who can get the lowest score on Gas Station
Gas station is a shit map to get a low score on, no fun
If you got pals, lethal obsession might be the fastest but also the most boring
I dunno who suggested a G36 with a cut rail, or indeed why, considering how much you'd need to modify for it just to have your rail a little lower
Try sniper or not
On nexus
You don't get all of the bad guys guns yet but there's definitely a few fun choices
i kinda just want the akm and the m1911a1
There's an AK103 for you
I wanna use the tec 9 and sawed off
As for m1911a1 not exactly sure but there's an m1911 lookalike added, I just never used it
You have a thing for sawed offs don't ya
looking at your pfp
Meow
For reals now though
Why do we not have a famas
What does that mean?
It means @severe portal will tell us who Matthew Pants is
uses my cute little paws to load a full magazine of JHP 7.62x51 into my SA-58
Mew
A compelling argument, but there's still the age requirement
Meowshallah!!
what
Iām 93 in cat years
Unfortunately steam only counts human years
thatās like 19 1/2 in human
Silly billy
I don't know the imperial system, sorry
thatās like 1 Hamburger, 9 Hotdogs and one French fry
I only speak metric :c
Thatās like 1 king of England, 9 prime ministers of Austria and 1 President of France
Did they release metric 2 while I wasn't looking?
Yeah
Neat
No
Good.
huh
There's more than just the british out there you know
I am not a bucket either and this is going way off rails for ron discussion, so back to it
Anyone know if they've fixed the trailers not appearing
I thought they're not entering at all
Are trailers a thing in RoN?
I wasnāt aware that was an issue. Iāve always had trailers spawn.
The trailers work now, atleast on a modded map
They just take a super long time to spawn now I think
Atleast for me
Wait what
You can see the trailers fairly easily in Port Hoken if you climb to the top of the watchtower
Their names will also show up through the map if you have player names enabled
I mean I did see trailers there, just not sure it's the right kind of them
hi
Almost done with all the missions, so far Iāve enjoyed it even with the nightmare AI. Probably should play swat 4 with the mods now
what does MEU stand for? the Doc says it post-mission
"Hey there, just a quick note to remind you that the MEU is here to help"
Probably āāMental Evaluation Unitā
makes sense
damn has anyone elseās performance drop since yesterday, fucking unplayable
yesterday? nothing happened yesterday like hotfixes or anything afaik, if you've got a specific issue we can talk about it tho 
i changed nothing, it was manageable yesterday, now iām getting 10 fps
??? any mods you installed during that time period?
Iām playing on safe mode
what were you playing on beforehand
nothing
???????????? dx11 or dx12, or have you always played on safe mode 
always safe mode, gave the best performance
try playing on DX11/DX12 and record any differences
you can also try verifying your game file integrity on steam
ive done all that
do they all give the same "10 FPS" result?
itās even worse
might be just me
it rained a little hard today, so maybe something was damaged
have you changed anything with your system at all between then (last time of stable performance) and now? (any new apps installed, windows updates, etc)
nope
watdahek
my last line of defense for you would be to tune down ingame setups possibly and see if anything was changed there somehow, or possibly uninstall-reinstall the game
you can also ask in #š»tech-support if you haven't already for more help
oh trust me, iāve turned down everything, playing the smallest windowed screen, and 50% resolution š
watdahek 
ask tech support when you can and maybe even the official subreddit or sumn
my assumption is that something is seriously broken in your game files or something is seriously wrong with your system/windows
i appreciate you tryna help
what specs are u on btw?
I mean, i was able to play pretty smoothly before
itās a laptop
not a gaming laptop, just a laptop
how do you fix you losing connecting from a multiplayer lobby, cause my interent works perfectly fine
not bad, the sole issue is iris xe, that was the issue for me at least with loading up the game, i.e. anything besides the training level
if you're just randomly DC'ing (disconnecting) then it isn't an issue; it happens to me sometimes but it doesn't appear to be an internet issue. Might have to do with the hosts' internet/world position.
not entirely sure since i'm not a network freak and don't know much about this stuff
alright, thanks.
Can I get some help with my discord suppporter edition code?
the big issue here is that intel iris xe only has 4 gigs of VRAM possibly, however I still don't get how you were playing totally fine and now can't; my suggestion is to dig deeper and get some more help elsewhere if you wish 
I can run the game with 4GB of VRAM above 60fps for the most part
isn't supporter edition gone now? i'm not versed in this sort of stuff but i hope someone else can assist you
you can ask for more help here or on the official subreddit maybe, or even #š»tech-support if you wanna go even further
I own the supporter edition but for some reason when I copy the code all that comes out of it is "Code Not Available"
I guess I'm not the only person with the issue
try typing the code in completely perhaps? not sure if that'll do anything but ya never know
But yeah no the game runs fine with 4gb of VRAM
It just depends on how fast your cards clock speed is
question, does redeeming a supporter edition key still work now?
worked for me
oh damn, alright
should i get it
iām very tempted and I play this game a lot
oh wait i thought you meant the code
as in
I wouldn't get a code for supporter through third parties
iām not sure about the key
they're mostly scams
if thereās already a third party key being sold on a reputable website yeh
if itās unclaimed does it still work
Probably not
sad
All I can say is it sucks if you weren't able to get the supporter edition in time. I bought mine a day before it got delisted from steam

yeah i def wish it was still around considering how the game is effectively still unfinished lmao
Besides, the supporter edition doesn't really do anything except add like 3 guns that have similar stats to the rest, some cosmetics and quad NVGs
quads are base game
well thereās the supporter edition discord which iād like to be in lol
the rifle that came with the DLC is flaming dog shit
*a tan skin for the quad NVGs
bro they keep offing themselves in club
emo girls be like
lmao
1984
update: it worked.
i now have supporter edition :3
is there a way to increase your fov even more?
First ever run of ELEPHANT = S rank, Iām feeling good
there might be a mod to go past 120 FOV but i have 0 clue why you'd want that unles you enjoy having ants for enemies
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Why is the MilkyToes games not a real discord server?
cause it would be a federal honey pot
Errrr@
Dude when you like
Put that out of context whilst still referring to ready or not terms
Speed running that S is so intense, right??
Now that I think about it, probably not the best choice of words
The bombs make it so much more stressful, I hate it
Iām usually a scan and wedge all doors kind of player, so I was completely out of my depths
the bombs were the easy part before the hotfix
you had to hope that all four suspects were in pairs of two when you came across them
made them easy to stun with the flashbang launcher
Second run going for a B tier, might spare some teachers
They probably wouldāve been if I knew where they could be, and didnāt have TOC yelling in my ear about time limits
Agent is usually back in the corner in the mini hut
Iāve had him near the conveyor belts most of the time
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Most of the time he is by the trucks for me
Probably the most unlucky spot because the open distance makes him cocky and hard to secure
in my experience he really can be all over the place
3 different people giving 3 different locations
All over the place is definitely the best way to describe where he is
In conclusion: He can spawn on the map
well no, from what iāve seen he only spawn in 3 maybe four places that are all relatively close by, besides the truck which is further
š«µš½š¤Ø hey who tf played zombies or not with me an hour ago
Most of the S are pretty easy right now, now is the time
theyre not here are they š§
is it possible for me to connect my ps5 controller and use it for ready or not? i know itās possible with xbox but idk about ps5
why does the toc file takes forever to delete?
Supporter edition adds guns?
Oh huh it does
And it's a fucking AR rifle too
hey does anyone have a team rainbow outfit and weapon loadout?
Is there a roadmap of some kind or any info on upcoming updates
the game has potential for sure
The AR is shit don't use it
I am not a fan of ARs so no chance of that
5.56? more like 5.5stinks
MP7 is š¤¤
Mp7 with pistol sights is 
There are cool 5.56 guns, issue is none of them are in the game
Load up on tasers, make your primary an mp7/p90 with a single jhp mag to shoot out windows = win.
my brother in christ i am not insane enough to taser a guy with an MPX
It's not hard. Promise.
might try tho
They fixed the hitreg problems. It has like 50 foot range. It's nuts.
probably better than the beanbag
Beanbag is better for sniping
But taser rules for most of the maps and is a free one-hit surrender.
my cursor is moving while im in game, like cant shoot or do anything it just moves the cursor around, anyone know how to fix?
nvm fixed itself ig
fuck me sideways the taser worked
much appreciated
yeeyee now that i know this i should be set i think
how does it fare on ides of march?
Oh my god S runs are infuriating they always go in and look behind them WHY
Fixing the taser slots to actually increase ammo was a game changer.
does it do that? whenever i add taser slots it gives me a bunch of empty mags
Should be 3 cartridges per slot.
Idk why you'd get empty magazines for anything. Mod-related bug would be my first guess.
never downloaded a mod in my life
Then I'm out of ideas
idk iāll look into it when im back on friday, iāll need to figure it out before i do that one challenge for hide and seek
ai can use guns for that right?
i just canāt command them?
i think i heard that idk
I ahd to give the ai pepperball guns bc they kept killing everyone on ides
I've yet to attempt those challenges. Not super interested in steam achievements
2 pepperball 2 bean bag is ideal imo
ohhh youāre not even doing s š
i just use copious amounts of gas and flashes for that lol
truthfully im more concerned about learning the maps so i can do ironman
yeah simultaneous iron man and s is what i wish i did now
I WILL have that watch
because now i have to replay iron man just for one item and 2 achievements
dont care about S'ing, i want that mf watch
Some missions have absolutely garbage maps in the briefing.
you donāt care about anything but getting the ice on your wrist
thatās based tbh
i got that tattoo i like(lethal obsession) so idc about getting the achievment
Rust Belt, what the fuck is this shit; Buy Cheap Buy Twice, literally no data
I really liked the buy cheap buy twice thing tbh, was a nice touch to have 1 mission where theyre like "good luck"
Rust belt does have a dumbass map though ngl
yessir
to be fair do you expect the cops to have mapped out the unmarked tunnels and everything (idk what it looks like i never go in with a plan)
wish i could use a slot and bring extra chemmys
I'm not convinced that Buy Cheap Buy Twice's map is supposed to be missing entirely
I mean, why not though? makes it interesting
Between it being a public building and the lore saying we have two undercover agents (one dead)
hi so u know how when u send a fella to therapy thrs this numbver on the top right of the profile what does that mean gang
days left i think
or like days theyāve completed
days measured in amount of missions you need to do
Like not even a Google Maps-esque picture
does anybody know how to give someone a break? i literally have 1 option rn and thats to fire him but i dont want to fire him since hes the only armourer i have and therapy is full rn
put them off your roster
How do i unban a person from my lobby
what how many available guys do you have
no one available
welp fuck this he died
no i mean how many character slots do you have in the first place?
i brought him into 23 megabytes and he died
a bunch but 3 are already in therapy and theres none else to replace
are your dude already depressed on the third mission?
yes
okay
so like you kinda fucked yourself
to keep your guys from crisising you have to take more prisoners, and have less of them die
i resetted my progress
if youāre going to be raw dogging commander and not alt f4ing when something goes wrong like that, iād recommend you use practice mode to learn the maps before you go in
on a new save?
ya
you pull up the roster, click on the guy active in your squad you wish to replace and it will show a transfer screen
woah there man at least buy me dinner first
real
For ironman im bringing a mirror gun i know that theyre a bit cheap and make the game a little too easy but a borhter needs what he can get
do people really complain about the mirror gun now?
i canāt name many swat games iāve played that donāt have an equivalent
though i do agree that i can kinda mess with the pacing a little
and i do kinda like not knowing whats behind every door
but im singleminded tryna get iced out
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Well get there
yeah i think im going to finish my iron man by the time i get back home on friday
im starting an ironman run tn, got my guys all kitted out, 1 red and blue have a shield, the other red and blue ahve battering ram
and boy do they look sick too
i left it off on carriers of the vine
basically all bdu camo i think with the big plater carrier with the groin protecter and the 99 swat mask with black glasses to black out the eyes, all my guys are faceless enemies, im on their side and IM intimidated
the default one just with all the acoutremans
and in green
This ironman run probably wont get completed, cuz if anyone dies it gets restarted but its good practice
put the 99 on there much more intimidating
Nah i think all the stuff on the default one looks better imo
just alt f4, nobodyās taking count
wait you can do that o.o
yeah lol
thats IMPORTANT knowledge, thank you for bestowing that upon me
i got in the habit of it doing it for my s runs the moment someone died or i died without enough people arrested to maintain morale
so if you merc everyone teams MH goes down?
?
Mental health
yeah
so you do have to arrest some on every map?
take 2-4 prisoners per mission id say
(Im excluding lethal obsession fuck em)
Thats fun
thank you for your tips
time to run TyCa
yessir, this gave me trouble iād hate to see others keep getting bothered by it
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I dmd you a ss of the guys' kit
iām sleeping now, goodluck with your ice quest
got 2 missions done so far, the boys are anxious but fuck em, emotions are temporary, drip is eternal

i have been trying to find the fucking meth storage in twisted nerve where the fuck is it
everyone's 1st twisted nerve game:
first house, up the stairs, left and take the first door on your left. then walk through the open doorway with the plastic tarps
okj thank you
now time to find the fucking exit š
what is the general consensus on the audio?
I've noticed I get mixed up with where enemies are if I try use listening as my tool
I'm trying to figure out if it's a me thing or others are experiecing it as well
the flip is a general consensus
flip?
i mean what the flip is a general consensus
do most players think the audio in this game is good?
consensus means "general agreement"
so like wdym by general consensus on radio
sorry my english isnt the best im still learning
i mean u could always use the door gun thingymabob to look under doors and listen while looking
the audio isnt the best but its pretty good since the game is fairly new
i just realised there are 2 nakamuras on my roster and both look exactly the same š
are twins on a roster a common thing
or am i seeing a bug
one is alex nakamura, a veteran and the other is kevin nakamura, a paramedic
damn thats cool
It's better than it used to be, that's for sure
do you think its possible to locate enemies on sound alone?
fuck, one of the nakamuras died
Meowscarada is cute 
Yes
At worst you'll hear sound coming through a door but it still indicates where the enemies are
It's very easy to get cheap tasers in if you listen carefully
That is if the hitboxes work
Oh so it's a me problem
does judge have a back story?
USIA plant engineered to be a perfectly complaint law enforcement
Really? I thought that was a joke
itās heavily implied iirc
Because of the dude from lethal obsession?
yeah
when will RoN receive a discount on steam
is this Watchmen dude ever gonna be dealt with?
it was few days ago
its still a discount
(laughin at peeps who bought ron for 50e, meanwhile i wasted 15e on it)
maybe
whats the highest discount did it receive?
steam discount sales comes pretty often, like once a month, or something
try to check (sorry VOID) steam keys for ron
how do i do it?
sorry im not an expert in steam
not in steam, game keys for steam.
i found this web claled eneba
eneba, g2a etc, dont go for untrusted sites, cuz u gonna lose ur money
i bought ron from eneba in early access
n other games, W site
this is more expensive
i got 2k Enebium lol, can't wait for games that can be purchased with enebium
ill probably get more money on my birthday anyways
where?
steam one is 20e
I heard of their being a first responder/patrol response mode in talks to be added just wandering do you'll think it would have a more relaxed ROE as its typically one person response on scene bc I think that would appeal to alot of the fan base and add a more diverse way of playing the game
zhi where the fuck is this gun modification manufactoy
Upstairs
Did they remove the "balloon" on twisted nerve (we all know the one im talking about) i was watching the lore vdis from shayne shut up and i was running it for ironman and decided to see if it was there and i cant find it, was it removed?
i donāt know what youāre talking about
Hes talking abt the condom
i probably missed that
I hate that feature
also really sucks that the room has lovehearts on the map on the tablet
yea, very icky
also i literally just did it but how do i switch an officer on my roster in commander mode
oh ok i got it
So metal doorframes have officially lowered my k:d in RoN via ricochet (unless I got wallbanged)
On one hand I like drawing out assault plans on the map. On the other hand if you point out you can draw on the map someone is drawing a dick and/or a swastika on it.
Anyone know if VOID plans to allow users to get achievements in multiplayer? Been grinding out S ranks with my friends and despite getting the customization unlocks we haven't been advancing the Steam achievements.
anyone else have massive stuttering/fps drops when initiating a firefight?
i can run the game on epic with 60fps just fine, but whenever a single person shoots, the game just drops to a singular fps, leading me to getting shot in the dome
this has gotten me waay to many times and is very annoying
didnt know the game was this un-optimized
Howdy yall
the unauthorized use of force deduction is the dumbest shit
some guy lit up 3/4 of my fucking limbs and when i hit him in his fucking cranium Im in the fucking wrong eat my ass
i just ignore that tbh
its just dumb i had to vent rq, im doing iron man run rn (alt f4'ing when dead) cuz i want the watch, im not concerned with the grades rn il s it all later but i need the drip
and yes i could get the mod that unlocks everything but wheres the fun in that
If u don't care bout score then fuck it what's wrong with force
Its just dumb that i got one i dont really care about it in this instance but it was a dumb deduction and ive had it happen before, its a reoccuring thing, and sometimes i do care about the grade, im just doing this ironman for the drip, but there are other times where thats a stupid deduction
i was afraid of s ranking elephant but my first try all the shooters were in the main room
that was quick
Hell yea homie
Is there a way to add old versions of port, hotel and cherryessa farm maps?
New versions are good but they're so different they're basically completely different maps so would be good to still have those
no belt mods š«µš½š¤Ø
Or you could get the mod where youāre not punished point-wise for use of excessive force (in some cases)
Might look into that for my S runs when i do those
modding RON is super easy tbh, when i saw it was nexus i was worried that itd be like NV but its surprisingly easy
can someone explain to me what post processing does? just seem like slight filter to me
Probably makes it harder to see.
More importantly, petition to reimplementing the ability to zipcuff headless suspects.
It had no purpose, but it was funny, and I liked it.
Well I think theyāve transitioned from headless suspects to faceless suspects
In short it's adjusts effects such as: SSAO, film grain, vignette, chromatic aberration, anti-aliasing, bloom, DoF and motion blur. Could be more, depends what they written in BaseScalability file
You can edit every effect separable, via engine.ini
Bro people on this discord kick you for accidentally offing one civilian in crossfire. Happened to me 2 times in my initial days.
You think they will tolerate dicks or swastikas? Those people who do it will get purged by this ruthlessly gamer community
Like is it that much to ask for to just want to draw my assault plan out?
I just wanna say, FUCK greased palms all my homies hate greased palms
itās the best map in game wym
I got wall banged on like the last 2 guys im just annoyed š¦
Use a 4x and abuse the long sightlines
5.56AP 2taps to the torso, so does .300blk AP
If i fail this i will, im a LVAR enjoyer so it would go well
im wokring on no death iron man
Problem with greased palms is there's way to many little holes in in obstacles between you and supect ai through which they immediately spot you and start blasting
imagine getting BANGED by other GUYS couldnāt be me
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i cant stand greased palms
They be greasing me on that map
Map hospital si big Only the other maps??
I swear man : (
I find it abused their penalty for using firearms too much not whit mod fir me
'no mercy for terrorists' kinda ruins the entire point of the game, literally turn it into t-hunt lul
To each their own, but pubbing with that mod is super shitty
If we shoot them when they surrendered, is it a penalty?
been wokring on greased for an hour i wanna die
can only imagine how hard hide and seek is gonna be
Guess how many zombie mod lobbies I found recently
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This shit is ass
its gonna be worth it when im done but damn i hate greased so much, never in my life have i been so excited to get to valley of the dolls
i always wondered what happens when you fail a mission and toc says "fall back" but the mission just ends there
i mean after that, do they send a military squad or give up?
are you doing s rank?
greased palms was a pain for a long time for me
oh
youd THINK it wouldnt be sop goddamn complicated but NOOOO
its possible to go through all your missions without any of your teammates dying?
valley was just as bad for me ngl so thats something to look foward to
valley of the dolls was nothing after greased palms
i figured id get 3 achievements at the same time
some types of pain are addictive
It sure is very cool and fun that there is no way to avoid being placed into modded lobbies š
ain no way
hey man
honestly what I started doing on 1.0 AI
even if 5.56 resulted in death sometimes
hotfix 3 made the AI a lot less oppressive
I love both my BCM and my LVAR
but still punishes you if you play over aggressive or just dumb
which is why I switched back to 5.56 and used a scope for the first time ever
I did like that it made your mistakes very evident
but that came at the cost of them being generally awful
another guy also roped me into this idea
we getting hanged man to cap it off too
you too, God bless your soul
its finally over, i can move on to shit i actually enjoy
swat ai carrying me rn
thats a first
void really bs how well hostages listen. I cant get them to travel any meaningful distance, then they slow to a crawl..
hello officers 
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I want to say when they slow down, it's usually because of a pathing issue?
Giving the command again while standing in a slightly different spot might yield better results
thanks Ive tried picking them up, beating them, shocking them. sometimes it'llbe a situation where they complied b4 and moved fine but the next playthrough, no. also you cant tell them to go through a doorway and if you throw them past the doorway they start acting up moving like a slug
At this point in the game the challenge is not the AI but the mechanics and how well they work
anyone else having problems ordering hostages to move around? Its probasbly part of the game. I noticed move to my pos works more often but that prob bc Ive already exposed myself to danger, I cant send a hostage into a room first
sometimes theres a guy wearing a bombvest and I just want to 'return to sender'
i really want to be able to play the alpha version of hotel
the one with all the floors
pretty sure it's up on nexusmods
it isnt
62% through the hermit
7 missions left
or 6 and then the hellhole that is Hide and Seek
Elephant - from school shooter film
All my knowledge.
I spent 2 and a half hours to beat postal
time issue
lol
I died to the final suspect multiple times
I only just realized recently that "Ides of March" was named after the same day that Julius Caesar was assassinated
If only the Left Behind were as successful as those 44 BC senators were.
creative writing is peak in RoN
Ends of the earth might be from the song
But also makes sense at a beach
Oh also that the sons would go to the ends of the earth for their mother
Triple meaning? š¤Æ
What about twisted nerve
Bleh
i still cant get that mission right
I love twisted nerve, you gotta infil from the second house in the right where the wall is broken in
worst part is the underground section i can clear the houses no issues
Clear that house and once the attic is clear you DONT take the bridge and backtrack to the opposite side of the map and clear the next house from the back doors, and the underground typically doesnāt give me problems, clear houses first and then you can throw gas or something into the caves
Could also consider wedging to doors up top where the caves come out of if you enter from the garage, that spot over to the left up the hill, could wedge that to stop anyone escaping the wrath
and gas/flashes hardly work
1 gas? Try 2 gasses lol, one on each side
Also helps if youāve got gunfighter for the 9bangers toss one of those on the entry point gas either side and anyone not in those cones you can deal with as you come up the stairs
Kind of did some tests, AI teammates legit somehow doesn't take bullets at all, was playing sins of the father, so only narrow hallways that requires to go into singlefile to move, was last in convoy, nah, suspect literary destroyed me while they are all healthy / not injured, lol.
ive never actually had anyone spawn up there
I've definitely had officers die from suspect gunfire, unless you mean something else by "doesn't take bullets at all".
They do take bullets / die, but it seems that you as a player always have damage reduction priority no matter what, like i said, i was walking trough narrow hallway in single file formation, was last in line, suspect appeared, i'm only one who got damamged, and pretty badly tho, 1 leg full gone, second one is slightly red and left arm damaged as well, but none of guys in front of me was damamged at all
My understanding is that the suspects still priority target the player if both SWAT AI and the player are in view.
The SWAT AI also have considerably more health than players do (250 vs 160)
Generally you will also be in front of the bots, which leads to you catching more flak
Exacly that, but still, how tf you can miss 4 persons in front of you / closest to you and hit only last one xDDD
Depending on RNG too, if you've got the bots equipped with Ceramic, they will not show up as injured unless the armor is broken, or they get hit in an unarmored body part
So in theory they can soak some damage without you ever being told so
badass intro scene when
Lucky, I had 2 suspects spawn up there last time I ran it
I just redownloaded yesterday i used to play pre release
fuck... almost just did a s teir run on 23mega bytes a second but 1 officer down
they know what they signed up for
no s tier sadly though
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I said before what if we could tell the AI to do actions without having to be near them by using the map, and I just realised that it can literally just be how you move your units in DoorKickers
i wish there was more control over your ai squad
like setting up custom commands like "stack up auto > pick lock if theres a lock> clear with flash> move in and clear> search and secure"
I wish they had the initiative of picking up a wedge and then doing the action
Instead of being stuck there until you pick it up
Part of the problem is that level complexity makes that very difficult to code, where things like door kickers are relatively very simple environments
Or the same way it was done in swat 4 through the helmet cams. The devs have already recreated so many of the swat 4 systems, I assume that one is technical limitations.
Or should I say not enough time and budget allowed for it
I just toss 1-2 stingers in there cuz lol
G36C is the best 556 in the game.
correct 
556 is the best 556 in game 
416 my beloved
9mm and funny shield for life
I kind of want to try a solo Beretta only run since Taser is too OP
Bring 11 pepper sprays and just chuck it at people long range
Solo stealth run with a canned 5-7, night vision, and a 12x FAL for your secondary. Go full assassin.
Do you guys like the smgs cuz I dont ever use them
Theyād be cool but I never use them
Theyāve got a more auto focused play style, which isnāt really my thing
I just like the two tap of the ARs or the practicality of the beanbag shotty
SMGs donāt feel like theyād have that oomph to them
ARs are simple to use
Same with shotguns
Iāll finish my practice run playthrough with SMGs cuz Iām curious
I really need to give the other weapons a shot
If it isnāt a 416 or a beanbag I havenāt used it
I only use the guns with a special use like the beanbag, the starter AR cuz itās simple and I donāt have any issues with it or modded guns/guns with cool mod changes
Hey guys has ron fixed the optimization issues yet from 1.0 release
Let me check some of the patch notes rq
In the main patch notes there arenāt any major optimizations but there have been plenty of bug fixes and improvements
If it isnāt there yet, itāll be on the way
I canāt wait for a optimization patch even though I know itll probably break gunfighter
I just suffered through an intense Twisted Nerve match just to find out that I had to re-enable replay mode every time I open RoN š
wasted a good 30 minutes for nothing 
We can play together
Obviously it didn't happen, then

What state is this game in? We finally got a patch but the fact performance wasnāt listed had me not return yet.
Some other time maybe
The internet my PC will actually connect to is down
@willow glen send me your steam in dms so that I will add you to my friend list
And I am not downloading RoN on a laptop, or god forbid trying to run it on one
Will do
Wait you haven't purchased RON yet?
No I have it
My laptop is more powerful than most PCs
It can run GTA6 on medium to semi high (Assuming the leaked SR are correct)
Iām good at it, and love it, broke 1000 hours not long ago
I have a pretty big beast of a PC
I am better than most noobs but nowhere near seasoned
I am an enlightened noob
Iām very good, not pro tho, Stab vests and enough gas grenades to frame Iraq for having chemical weapons, that is beyond me
I remember part of that also used to be using primarily a pistol to use the old flash launcher
Sadly that is no longer a thing
Doing it solo too, on old farm, crazy
Saw a video of it, intimidated by that man
I use the colt pistol like a cowboy out of a wild west pulp fiction story
Based
One shot kills if you aim it right
Nothing can beat the colt. Not even the shotgun
Plus you can always use your primary
Kid named 7.62 round
@willow glen If you had even mentioned this before on Cinetik's server or others then we could have played it so many times. I had this game since months
I hate the SA-58, itās so easy to kill accidentally
Damn
But as they say
9mm to kill the body
.45 to kill the soul
Can suspects break wedges? i KNOW i wedged a door and yet somehow its open
Sins
Yep
It happens on the vet maps a lot more often
Dunno why, I asked if the vets could remove wedged for that reason
And got a āno that is not a featureā
On the supporter server
You know imagine if one rogue RON developer adds ghostly beings to the game to troll people
'Hey dude I saw a civilian woman without legs holding a gun in that room'
'Dude shut the fuck up or I will kick you'
'No I swear dude omg omg omg. She killed me I am dead'
'Stop joking bro. That room is empty. I am standing in it. You died because of a booby trap'
@willow glen @molten finch
huh, weird the weirdest thing is it was open inwards too, like something.... let them out
maybe holy is on to something
I think they should add boxer lady back
It was funny
Having to keep a distance from one civ
Kick the closer door, back away screaming Bloody Mary for compliance
Voll's wife?
Yes
Sheās lame now, and doesnāt punch armoured swat officers to death
At least not unless you try to get killed by her
I assume thatās what the fool achievement is
Until my first successful playthrough I always wondered
'Hey why are we raiding this nice gentleman's pristine mansion on his daughter's birthday'
Thats because I would usually get killed before basement
Tell AI to stay outside, walk up to her without shouting
I managed to kill her in one of my Valley runs before without the killing a civ penalty because she slapped me so hard it gave the the same effect as a flash
I have not tried it yet
Ahh, just as God intended
lmao
I remember the memes, āDiana Voll before marrying Amosā and itās just a female boxing match
let me finish my sins run ill catch up on messages later im on the bottom floor now shoudlnt be too much longer
lmao
Wish you luck
Bro
The intro card, even before we had briefings
Also I like the briefing justifying why we do it when we do it
Goddamn Romanians, couldnāt even let a girl have a birthday and be out of the house when dad got swatted
I never look at it
what soft objs are there in Sins
ive got the ahrd obj and the dead civvie on the bottom floor but idk what else i need its not ahrd completing
i play on a laptop
i have an aspire 5 with the rtx
thats prolly it
runs RON ok on medium actually
just sorta lags a bit when loading in the police station
I just first tried Sins babeeee
ive done it before but its my ironman run
gonna take a lil break and then run neon tomb, im not super familair so itll be interesting
What are some easter eggs in RON maps?
Any unidentified civilians, mysterious bodies
locations with no purpose
Your moms house
garth brooks didnt like that
Garth brooks the country singer? lmao
havent heard that name in a long time
He really left that open for it though
rust belt cave 
any neon tomb tips
?
Tony just follows orders huh?
Ayyy nice
I accidentally S ranked it a while back, as in I went in just trying to beat it
But with flashes and a ridiculous taser obsession I got my second unintentional S rank after rust belt
Okay so Sullivan
Get the suspects
Donāt report the paperwork, walk around and find and listen to recorders and a radio
did i get the hospital mission's desc right? so basically you make the effort of keeping their leader alive and place him in a hospital but his followers go shoot the hospital and take advantage of it to blow up the whole place?
I assume they either want their leader back or want to kill or otherwise prevent their leader from talking to police and get a show of power while doing so
does anyone know some settings i can change to make the game run smooth?
dumb down graphics to low
i almost got an S on the first map with a suppressed glock, but i only got A+ because that one guy died...
Probably been Sean Bean
you cant get S with a lethal weapon
i had jhp rounds and most of them surrendered before they were dead
why not though? do injuries count?
im aware of this, and i almost managed it
i wonder if suppressors are actually useful at all
i also didn't get hit at all but i had armor
seems like the suspects are just eating bullets today
Iirc they can bleed out before the mission is finished
nom nom nom delicious
-suspect
yes but its visible when the blood comes out, and it happens too quickly to not notice it
maybe i should try again and maybe this time i will get an S to prove ihatecookie wrong
spawned in valley of the dolls and suspect is right there at the gate drops me like wtf
i got the S with glock 19 with a suppressor
i shot them in the legs so it was quite hard but i did it
you can get S with shot suspects?
as long as they surrender yes
b
brody hell nah, i was in the evidence room of farm and i heard a little girl whisper "i cant let you leave"
HELL NAAHHH
oh so thats what i have to do
time to get fan service tatoo
i js did elephant and my brain is now altered
what is america doing bruh is this rlly wat my peers in america fear of while me in singapore js scared of exams
Well if we didnt foster an environment where a disregard of human life could grow then it wouldn't happen but
oh my new here tag got removed hooray
I just have tp complete hospital and hide and seek on iron man and i have my cool watch and im so excited but i have ot go to bed
loving the new AI tbh
it's actually at the point where if I die, i've fucked up somewhere
does replay save on mission fail, right now i'm looking for the last guy and don't really want to lose this replay since i got some sick clips from it
same
i actually have fighting chance at s ranking missions
For developers.
ā1.
The game is super - I've been playing for two months and can't get enough of it!
I would like to offer several suggestions for gameplay:
- Add the ability to use special equipment such as grenades and launchers from the doorway without entering the room. Those. for example: first they threw a gas grenade, waited and then just cleared the room.
- The ability to command not only teams (yellow, red, blue) but also each fighter individually, now there is such an opportunity, but I propose to give a full list of commands to each fighter and organize it in a similar way (for example, Alt + middle mouse button will call the contextual menu for individual fighters, not teams), so as not to turn towards the fighter in order to give him an individual order.
- Add another team, for example - the green team, i.e. a squad of seven fighters including the commander (player). Or add the option to use a squad of seven or five fighters: Option 1) self, alpha, bravo, Charlie, delta. Option 2) self, alpha, bravo, Charlie, delta, echo, foxtrot.
For developers.
ā2.
4. Add the ability for one team to remain in the doorway (cover the room), and the second to enter the same opening and clear the room that the first team is covering.
5. Add the ability to use lights on the shield.
6. Add the ability to switch the speed of movement of fighters before entering a room, i.e.: 1) clear - move slowly. 2) we clean up - we move quickly.
7. Add the ability to switch weapons for fighters before entering a room i.e.: 1) if a fighter is equipped with a primary lethal weapon and a secondary lethal weapon, but he has a taser, add the ability to order him to use a taser when clearing a room (to capture a target alive ). 2) if the fighter is equipped with a primary non-lethal weapon and a secondary lethal weapon, add the ability to use lethal (pistol) weapons when clearing a room.
8. Of course, add balaclavas!!! š
Otherwise, I repeat - the game is Super!
Continue in the same spirit!
I donāt know where to send this message - Iām posting it here.
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nvm found them, the suspect was stuck behind some barrels lmao
damn bug
guys i fucked up and shot some guy in the chest with a pistol, he aint dead and is conscious but does this ruin a S run
unless it was unauthorised use of force then no
i've got the sniper rifle from gunfighter for the last mission "hide and seek"
oh man i js got an unauthorised use of force bruh
is planting c2 glitch cus everytime i equip it it wont let me shove it on the door
Look under the door handle
i should do a "frag grenades only" challenge, considering the physics of grenades in this game it should be challenging enough
ha, got 3 suspects on the first map before dying... and 2 civilians
the trick is to always be ready to move behind cover
its fun how it instantly destroys doors etc, too bad its hard to have fully destructible environments
I don't know where the weapons storage is on the map with lots of containers, can someone please tell me?
What do you mean like the armory.
It said to look for a container with a spider symbol.
There's one right in front of spawn and 2 more to the right side of the map, just look for containers with spiders on them like the auction house one
the spawns are random just check for every spider container
Thank you very much.
Hi, is it known whether a new map (or even several maps) are in development?
Iām pretty sure they finished the game with 1.0
but I could be completely wrong.
They have a roadmap theyāre setting up
Oh okay cool
Lol I just completed the whole game again just for the gold watch. Seems I didnt even play on ironman mode š
HA
Yeah that sucks
How long ago did they announce that?
in december
On the second as well #announcements message
oh that's quite some time ago already. š¬
They did say they wanted to get the 4 hot fixes out first
Which 4 is supposed to be pretty good
"which 4 is"? wdym?
The 4th hotfix
They were planning on doing 4 before going back to regular updates
can enemies headshot one kill u?
is Eli built ford tough?
has any of those 4 been released yet?
3/4
ok! Thx
In commander mode; if your unit is mostly incapacitated, and you only have 3 available members.
Will the game fill in the other slot with a ārookieā no name guy. Or are you just short a member?
no
Am I tripping or do you get to spawn on a different location now on The Spider???? #šØron-screenshots-and-art message
bro if youāre gonna fake something like that at least set it up to look believable, the 4 question marks is a bit gratuitous
Itās not fake tho. I spawned there
Why tf would I lie
why didnāt you take the picture when you spawned?
Iāve just played the spider 3 times today because I messed up ironman mode, no the spawn is still the same.
Cause I got shot at immediately from that door
and you team both didnāt return enough fire to take him down, and also got killed and injured
Nah they started dying when I sent them in
youāre playing with mods enabled, you sure one of them isnāt messing with your game
I have an AI mod, majority cosmetics, some gun attachments, and gun replacements
I dunno what would break my spawn/starting location with those
yeah nah ion believe that.. why would you lie about this?
Are you serious rn
the spider is one of my most played maps, i have not seen that happen one time in any of my runs, or any runs iāve seen on youtube, unless you can actually prove that you spawned there, without these weak excuses, and provide video, nobody is believing you
why do the maps start to feel boring after a while?
you spawned at a place where i have never spawned (keep in mind i have played the spider 10+ times), with 3 of your officers injured and 1 dead, with a door to the agency opened
its a strange lie
they donāt really, thereās enough of them that if you repeat one too much you have many more to do, if youāre with ai i could see that, but playing coop makes it a lot more fun
i wonder why
Bro I have been playing since ADAM
You really think Iām just gonna lie straight up
whats your point?
yeah and iāve been playing since the steam release, iāve never once had a misaligned spawn
I had to post it cause it shocked me that I spawned there
And yaāll quick to judge that Iām lying
you werent shocked though, you straight up placed yoself there
Alr whatever let me get a footage. This argument is gonna go nowhere
because the probability of that happening is so low, and your team condition is so poor at āthe start of the gameā that nobody is inclined to believe you
you can say that all you like
Cool
swat ai so bad your teammates instantly got killed
the only thing that gives the tiniest sliver of truth to it is the fact you still have 3 grenades but for all i know you could have started with 4
Nah they didnāt get injured nor die from that. They started dying when I sent them in that door
but you said you got instantly shot at
Yeah? Doesnāt mean I died?
how bored are you
i canāt wait for like the devs to come out with the next patch and have āFixed misaligned spawning on The Spiderā hidden in there
If so Imma take the L
i mean usually the reception part of the agency only has 1 suspect, and maybe another one looking out of the office window thing. not sure how 1 other suspect could've injured 3 of your teammates. i've heard that happens to people with suspect ai but its still unlikely
But I doubt
if this does turn out to be true then i'll ''apologize'' but currently there's no evidence to back this up
I have an AI mod that spawns in more suspects
Nah itās all good. Lemme get the footage
if that happens iām going into full cope mode and assuming that guy has a contact on the dev team who is trolling us
oh yes your teammates got sniped by TWO suspects, my bad
oops all suspects
Also does anyone else feel like the SLR47 is kind of useless? I like the way it looks, and I like it's handling, it just doesn't offer much if anything over 300blk besides more recoil and less attachment choices for the muzzle.
itās an ak of course itās junk
SLR suck, is true
Iām genuinely not gonna be surprised if it never spawns me there again
very convenient
nice shattered rotating bolt, idiot. pocket watch internals lookin' ass bolt design.
Run in safe mode.
Remove mods
If you can in safe mode remove mods until you can.
or update them
their all updated to date but Ill run in safe mod
One may be broken or conflict with another.
nice 2 rounds per minute idiot, suspects using it have a faster trigger finger than your automatic switch
Well you see a random radiation particle from the sun flipped a bit on your PC causing the spawn location to change from x1100 to x0100 which moved the van + spawn zone 1000 unreal units down the street
Slow cyclic rates are preferable for rounds with a higher recoil impulse so you have time inbetween each shot to adjust your aim. Same reason why the UMP45 shoot so slow.


