👮ron-discussion

[dull raptor]

Partially or is it potential based on other factors? Both are cool lol

[bright valley]

If barrel length is a factor, F90 is a bullpup.

[split citrus]

I got a use of force demerit with a bean bag shot gun. Da fuq 🤨

[humble mauve]

the best gun is still the one you like the most

[inland wolf]

some are objectively better performing

[crude prism]

about as close as you can get to objective is probably the G36C, hands down best optics, low recoil, no decentering from screen-center when firing

[humble mauve]

not if you believe otherwise in your heart

[dull raptor]

REAL! REAL! All guns basically operate on the same damage when it comes to incap and killing. Bullets hurt, is the end all and be all.

[crude prism]

Technically not the lowest recoil 5.56, but it doesn't have to be imo

[inland wolf]

i guess but the G36 cant accept eotecs

[crude prism]

SRO Dot > all other sights

[bright valley]

If you really want the holo then F90 it is.

[inland wolf]

ive been using like rmr or whatever

[restive gorge]

exactly what happened. then when o re tried the mission same thing happened but it killed everyone

iron sight gang

[dull raptor]

Unless you’re a bullpup user, then I think YOU need to hunted by Gold Element

[inland wolf]

Fuck it...

I fucked up

Kill me

I messed up

[bright valley]

Uhhh TOC

[inland wolf]

Civillian is down.

[dull raptor]

full auto users trying to take down a single suspect

[inland wolf]

just blast their head smh

[bright valley]

hey uh entry team to toc 👉👈 OH SHIT, OFFICER DOWN

[inland wolf]

roger that entry team

[digital marsh]

Element

[bright valley]

Completely organic dialogue

[inland wolf]

how about the objectively best pistol

[bright valley]

Probably the stupid fuckin' five seven

[restive gorge]

5.7

[inland wolf]

man

[dull raptor]

“TOC to element, distant cup drops shit, voice gets farther away dropped my tea”

[inland wolf]

game says it suffers poor ergonomics

yet has the best groupings from when i spam fired it

reloads fast as fuck

[digital marsh]

Real question…

[dull raptor]

“I shot him with a Glock, he couldn’t have died” -RussianBadger

[restive gorge]

arwc iron sights

[digital marsh]

What kind of drink do you guys get before the missions?

[inland wolf]

coffee

[bright valley]

trust MMMM, he's something of a scientist 😏

[inland wolf]

coffee, coffee, and coffee

[digital marsh]

I go for an espresso ☕️

[inland wolf]

bring back speed boost 🗣️

[dull raptor]

I like to go with some nice, strong bourbon on real missions. Can’t go sober that’s for sure. On RoN, probably water. she, in fact, was not a SWAT officer

[bright valley]

Bring back the coffee machine sound effects ;-;

[restive gorge]

theres a coffee machine wth

[digital marsh]

They took it away????

[inland wolf]

i need to do performance monitors with my team

[digital marsh]

I haven’t played in like a week and they took the sound effect of the coffee machine away?!??

[bright valley]

You must not be a regular coffee drinker if you haven't noticed yet.

[crude prism]

funny enough, the fiveseven literally has no recoil so if you spam it and pull down, you're compensating nothing

it auto recenters after each shot

[dull raptor]

5.7 is such an absolute mood

[inland wolf]

i can never fucking hit anything using it with shield

[digital marsh]

This is true ^

[inland wolf]

the laser and the barrel just dont match up at all

MCX, despite me adding a supressor

the muzzle smoke is so bad that it completely obscures my sight picture

[crude prism]

see: #1193328545498403027 message

lasers are just straight up broke on a lot of weapons

[digital marsh]

In the back of the room where you select the missions, next to the old guy

[inland wolf]

i just want objective information on how to decide what loadouts to make for my AI

because they are stupid and keep dying

[dull raptor]

Practice mode

[bright valley]

the old guy lmao, roasted the therapist harder than the coffee beans

[inland wolf]

thats all i play

[dull raptor]

Zamner, do not know then

[hearty verge]

Add PEQ15 to MCX pls

[inland wolf]

commander and ironman i will never touch with a 20 foot pole

until they fix the dogshit AI

[hearty verge]

Update PEQ15 to NGAL pls

Let us can equip PEQ15 and flashlight at the same time pls

[digital marsh]

There’s therapists in the game????

Makes sense why all my guys are stressed asf nvm

[bright valley]

My guy do you actually own the game lol

[inland wolf]

should I give one of my AI an smg

[digital marsh]

yeaupp 😭

[restive gorge]

no need to go to therapy if theydont make it out the mission due to TRIP MINES

[silk junco]

they call me judge the way i go to therapy

[inland wolf]

FACTS BROTHER 🗣️

[digital marsh]

Me after realizing there’s therapists in RoN

[inland wolf]

those traps will trigger and kill you even if they're on the opposite side of the door and you run as fast as you fucking can

[restive gorge]

ive been on a lethal obsession for like 2 hours

[dusk heart]

The therapist is the main antagonist of the game

[restive gorge]

bc of trip wires

[inland wolf]

just shotgun the doors lmao

[bright valley]

Mirror under the door.
"Hmmm interesting. Prescott, kick that door."

[inland wolf]

Its just a prank bro

[restive gorge]

i do that and theres no wire,

[dusk heart]

Use peek

[digital marsh]

Gonna play tn and watch me hit a trip mine 🫡

[restive gorge]

or the wire will be on my side of the door and a teammate steps on it

[dusk heart]

Its more reliable

[digital marsh]

I’ll remember this convo

[restive gorge]

i just shotgun the door now

[inland wolf]

MPX or MCX

[restive gorge]

or c2 depending on how fancy i feel

[dusk heart]

Yeah but you’ll see the tripwire and can cut it

[restive gorge]

true

[dusk heart]

Then you can close the door and C4 it

[digital marsh]

if I run fast enough I’ll hop over it

[restive gorge]

but as soon as i start cutting it here comes an ai with a shotgun to 1 hit me

[inland wolf]

use a breach shotgun

and just blow every door

[restive gorge]

dude turns into barry allen as soon as i start any animation

[bright valley]

Turn Brisa Cove into Russian Roulette with your buddies by taking turns kicking doors.

[dusk heart]

AI Mods are your friend

[restive gorge]

that sounds fun

[inland wolf]

does anyone know if AI swat experience recoil at all

[restive gorge]

no they just miss regardless

[digital marsh]

Do you mean Barry Dillan? 😂

[restive gorge]

https://tenor.com/view/the-flash-barry-allen-grant-gif-23737347

[digital marsh]

Yooooo your bio 😂😭🤣🤣💀 fax tho

[restive gorge]

i get 17 messages a day about it i love my sense of humor

[digital marsh]

😭

[inland wolf]

why is the slr so short

[restive gorge]

my steam is better

[bright valley]

It's cold

[digital marsh]

It’s tired

no no more

[bright valley]

funky tacticool ak

[frail quartz]

7.62 isn't as affected by barrel length as 5.56 is, so it can go a bit shorter

[rustic widget]

I have a nvidia 3080ti with nothing running in the background and this game still runs like garbage framewise, no matter what settings I try, can someone just point me in the right direction on what settings will run fluid? ty

[inland wolf]

everything at the lowest?

[rustic widget]

yes

[inland wolf]

you've tried capping your frame rate?

[rustic widget]

60 and 30 and still notice a slight stutter

[floral sky]

advanced graphics and enable dlss

[rustic widget]

thank you!

[floral sky]

lmk if it works

[rustic widget]

noticeable difference around 40.ms on lowest settings

[shrewd oriole]

Pc users when they don't get a stable 584 fps:

[woeful egret]

generally higher settings yield better performance weirdly enough

[rustic widget]

🙇‍♂️

[woeful egret]

idk if it's the game just not utilising your hardware properly

but I get higher frames on high over medium

like I'm still running a 1060 and it's perfectly playable on high, less so on medium

[rustic widget]

yes, high is way smoother, epic is not lol

[woeful egret]

hopefully next hotfix addresses that

it's a beautiful game but you don't want a beautiful slideshow

[rustic widget]

💯

[wispy mural]

Because it's basically a draco

[inland wolf]

the difference between 30 and 60 is a missed shot and death, or a dead suspect and alive officer

anything above 200 has no effect

[frail quartz]

I can't really tell any noticeable difference between 90 and 120 fps personally

But I can definitely tell the difference between 60 and 90

[inland wolf]

camera movements

they will be much smoother

[frail quartz]

Yeah, but the whole "diminishing returns" thing is still probably a major factor

The difference between 60 and 90 is such a large jump that the difference between 90 and 120 isn't very noticeable in return

[restive gorge]

who needs frames when theres trip wires

[tough spire]

Spin around in circles wildly and it's very noticeable. Otherwise meh

[stone bay]

#🎬ron-clips-and-media message you complaining about frames?

[tough spire]

Oh I hate watching that so much

[stone bay]

Nobody has the right to complain about frames til they get what I get

[tough spire]

That's how you play normally?

[stone bay]

In 1.0 yeah

in EA it was stable

[tough spire]

How the...

[stone bay]

You should see how I S ranked a lot of missions

Actually all of em

[tough spire]

You know what? I'm gonna walk back one of my most controversional opinions.

I think if that's how poorly your game runs, go right ahead and mod the F out of the AI to make it tolerable

[stone bay]

Nah bro dw it's skill issue

[tough spire]

Skills at computers I guess yeah

[stone bay]

3 seconds per frame

[inland wolf]

Mans playing Potato or Not

[tough spire]

Well I see you, too, are a masochist.

[eager olive]

i forgot how disturbing valley of the dolls is

[inland wolf]

whats the best shotgun

[tough spire]

The B1301

[stone bay]

Yes

[tough spire]

Objectively speaking.

Subjectively? Whichever one you have the most fun with

[eager olive]

1301 entryman supremacy

[inland wolf]

for what reasons

this is for my AI, not me

[mighty elbow]

the best shotgun is the m4

[tough spire]

Lowest recoil highest capacity.

[inland wolf]

Swan keeps on fucking dying like an idiot

[stone bay]

Then give them the Benelli M4

[floral sky]

u use dlss or amd fsr?

[inland wolf]

ok im sold

[eager olive]

it makes a big boom and turns combative suspects into not that

[stone bay]

None cause they both make my game stutter more

[inland wolf]

tried that, he still died

[floral sky]

damn that was the magic fix for me

[tough spire]

pfft nova is the real goat

[inland wolf]

he died with that as well

[stone bay]

Good. Replace him

[inland wolf]

should i just remove the spread choke

either his aim is shit or its too slow

[stone bay]

Give them a brake-attached one

[inland wolf]

1014 with Brake

does that sound good

[stone bay]

And pray you don't get a civi in the crossfire

is there support (or planned support) of LAN?

[stone bay]

Yes and buckshot

Don't gotta worry about buckshot against armored suspects cause they'll just dismember the suspects anyway

[inland wolf]

giving him heavy armor as well since he sucks

[stone bay]

I give all my AI heavy armor then I customize them one by one

[inland wolf]

i have a guide that i made a little bit ago

[stone bay]

So I don't gotta look at those shoulder pads

[inland wolf]

for making loadouts

[stone bay]

Until now, I dunno anyone here that knows what is the limit to how many presets you can make

[inland wolf]

well i have 4

[stone bay]

I have 11 and can still make more

[inland wolf]

they're all general purpose, customized for each AI

non lethal is compressed to two, used for both teams

[tough spire]

It'd be cool if it mattered more what AI personalities used what gear

[inland wolf]

and a bunch of my personal loadouts

[mighty elbow]

best shotgun in the game

[tough spire]

I have about 10, myself. I should test the upper limit

[stone bay]

I have a best one that isn't in the game https://www.nexusmods.com/readyornot/mods/3209?tab=description

[inland wolf]

what is bounce light option

[stone bay]

Eli sounds like a shotgunner or maybe King

BUt for Commander Mode, I just accept if one of them dies then get replaced

[tough spire]

Since basically all I do these days is Ironman I have 3 loadouts for that.

IronSelf, IronA, IronB 😛

[stone bay]

I have 5. One for me, one for each member

then I have another separate 5 for practice mode

Then my eleventh one is for S ranking (not that I'd need it anymore since I did all levels alr)

[mighty elbow]

iron within iron without

[tough spire]

LTL-Kinetic, LTL-Gas, LTL-Hybrid, IronSelf, IronA, IronB, Multiplayer, Testing, BeatCop, USMC

And tbh I think 3 more

[stone bay]

Break the limits

GOtta know how many presets you can make

[rustic widget]

😅

[daring lily]

does anyone else prefer the old mission select of the 3d map

[winter pendant]

suddenly getting a ton of stutter

nvm

[fleet burrow]

Is there a way to see what missions you havent played?
(Dont have 90s swat gear yet)

[dull raptor]

You should unlock them one at a time, otherwise IDK

[dull raptor]

When I got the full release, I noticed the map had a massive downgrade

[dreamy hatch]

No sadly not really. The way I used to verify this is entering the level and committing assisted self-death to see if I have a rating on the map

[bright valley]

I was thinking the other day that a simple implementation of this could be every officer in Commander mode having a random "preferred weapon" that would indicate a primary weapon they'd see improved performance with.

[dull raptor]

They should add that :/

[tough spire]

Yes exactly!

Give me a reason to not just always select "IronA" every time 😂

[bright valley]

I forget who it was, but I swear I recalled an IRL officer saying something about how most SWAT officers generally use what weapons they are personally most comfortable with and trained on.

I'd see it as a mechanic that isn't mandatory to play into, anyone can use anything really, but it'd possibly give an incentive to use different weapons and/or be a little more choosy about which officers you hire and use.

[tough spire]

officers are optional as it tbh

[bright valley]

Yeah. I imagine any improvements to that system would be welcome as I've hardly heard anyone praise it outside of "liking the idea but disliking the execution".

[tough spire]

Grinding out the gas station for traits is very stupid. lol

[bright valley]

Yeahhh, that's a whole other thing.

I don't know what I really expected from commander mode as a whole when we first heard about it on paper, but it kind of feels like a prototype of an idea the way it is now.

[tough spire]

The bones are there for something good.

You will never convince me that 1.0 isn't a beta release, Void.

[bright valley]

I don't suppose you're familiar with the Freelancer mode added in Hitman:WoA?

It was post-launch content that took a vaguely sandboxy narrative-driven game and layered on some mechanics to create something of a roguelike mode with randomized mission selection plus equipment and risk management with permadeath.

[tough spire]

That sounds cool as heck. Like the player made contract mode but randomized?

[bright valley]

Yeah. It was very well-received by the players and very effective at milking some more replay value out of the maps that people had since thoroughly explored and experimented with.

[dreamy hatch]

The game seems to have simulated height over bore. Additionally the 12x on the ARWC seems to behave weird.
When standing ~1-5m in front of a target I shoot around 2 cm low, due to the height over bore. At around 10-15m I am dead on. Anything past that tho and I begin to shoot extremely high. At what I guess are around 30m I shoot about 15cm high. That makes long distance shots like on Car Dealership effectively impossible.

So from my testings it seems like there is height over bore in the game and my 12x scope is zeroed to 15 meters... and I can't change any of this? Is there any way to zero your scope? Or am I missing anything?

[bright valley]

To my knowledge there isn't any way to zero your optics in the game currently

[tough spire]

You can def. do long distance shots with some weapons, but I think someone has proved and reported to the devs that there's some really bad zeroing this patch

[dreamy hatch]

Same but this seems really odd considering the 12x issue. I have played car dealership today and have noticed that I didn't hit my headshots when in a firefight at around 30+ meters. Using the somewhat limited shooting house you can draw a perfect vertical line when moving away a few paces after every shot.

[tough spire]

I don't really expect Ground Branch or ArmA levels of detail here but I do wish our shooting range wasn't so crappy so we could at least test what's working correctly at better distances

Hashtag hitscan problems

[dreamy hatch]

I don't expect Arma ballistics either. I just want to have my 12x scope be able to be zeroed to 50m so I can hit far away headshots more reliably. Most of the time the distance doesn't even matter that much since you mainly do cqc, but for these rare occurances like the tower on Hide and Seek or the outside of Car Dealership it would be pretty nice to set my scopes zero to a distance greater than 15m.
I mean technically the actual shooting range would have great potential for this but for some reason you can't customize the distance of the targets.

[tough spire]

I hear ya. It's half-baked.

Like a good chunk of this game.

[bright valley]

I'm a little bummed out that the current shoothouse doesn't seem to have a timed circuit like the old one. I can see the timers above each entrance and a little buzzer sounds as you enter and leave, but I don't think you can actually make them go.

Totally frivolous feature honestly and not a priority at all, but it was sort of fun.

[tough spire]

Every time it's time for the crew to play Ground Branch I'll run through their timed CQC shoothouse drills a dozen times or so to get my controls and reactions up. RoN I just have death. Death and restarts.

[bright valley]

lol

For what it's worth, I imagine the current shoothouse is probably better suited for getting into little 1v1 matches with friends. I knew people who would do that with the old shoothouse.

None of my friends play RoN though currently.

[tough spire]

If I'm reading between the lines correctly, you want us to be RoN friends so you can shoot me in the shoothouse.

[mighty elbow]

yup

[bright valley]

I did not say that.

[tough spire]

I'm here for it. Pepperspraying your buds is like 90% of multiplayer

[bright valley]

It's actually not something I participated in, just watched from the catwalk lol

[gasp] the catwalk is gone 😭

[tough spire]

Yeaaaah. No more gassing up on high octane turbo coffee and blitzing around the killhouse while your friends cheer you from above

[bright valley]

coffee% speedruns

[tough spire]

I wonder how hard it'd be to stage like, 2v2 killhouse PvP matches in the server.

Best of 5, then you have to reset the play field as it will inevitably be F'd.

[bright valley]

#🎨ron-screenshots-and-art message

[tough spire]

Person after my own heart there. Coulda shaved off a half second there on that target to the left, too.

[bright valley]

I was surprised by the lack of laser pointer hipfire.

[gilded mortar]

Guys, I got a little confused. If someone or me have a mods in a lobby, for example, for customization, will everyone be seeing it or only user of mods?

[tough spire]

I suspect only the people who have the mods as that's typically how it works.

[gilded mortar]

Okay, but how I’m able to see other’s mods in my lobby? Such as custom outfits etc

[tough spire]

If there's integrated downloading of mods for lobbies than yeah it should work

[gilded mortar]

I’m just trying to understand how does it works😄

[tough spire]

(I don't use mods so I don't know but nobody else was answering)

[gilded mortar]

lmao k, still thanks:)

[silk sail]

im back

dont worry hold your applause

[stone bay]

Ok what the actual fuck

I gained some frames by increasing some of the graphics settings

What the fuck why is that like that

[tough spire]

It means you were bottlenecking your CPU and offloading more to the GPU was saving you.

[stone bay]

So all this time… all those clips… was because my CPU was taking the load, and not my GPU?

[tough spire]

I mean, I don't know for certain. But it's worth playing around a little more and perhaps getting a hardware monitor

[stone bay]

I am getting slightly more stable frames than I ever had just by increasing from Low to Medium on most settings

What the fuck

[soft narwhal]

typically, increasing the resolution and texture settings can sometimes decrease the load from your cpu and put it on yoru gpu to allow your gpu to shine

[stone bay]

That’s what I’ve been wanting this whole time

It always felt like my GPU wasn’t being utilized

[soft narwhal]

this is the same across most games

[stone bay]

Is that why I can run Red Dead 2 pretty high without frame dropping

[soft narwhal]

most likely yeah

[stone bay]

[soft narwhal]

i got an increse of about 40-50fps across mostly all games just by going from 1080p to 1440p on ultra across all my games

with my 4070

[stone bay]

I am malding

So all my S ranks and suffering

[soft narwhal]

yeah its why turning everythign to low isnt always the solution

[stone bay]

Could’ve been fixed just by increasing the settings

[soft narwhal]

you gotta tinker with what gives you the best fps

[stone bay]

Should I involve FSR as well or just leave all that off?

[soft narwhal]

is your gpu a AMD gpu?

[stone bay]

NVidia but real fucking old

1050 to be exact

[soft narwhal]

if you can then yeah, FSR is basically the DLSS competitor

but FSR is not up to par with current gen DLSS

[stone bay]

#🎨ron-screenshots-and-art message anything I should touch here?

[stone bay]

and if I get lower frames, then I guess just leave it off. DLSS obviously obliterates my FPS. FSR is weird. I tested the FSR 3.0 thing and I was hitting above 60 but stutters occured very frequently

[soft narwhal]

I can't really make that call for you as our hardwares are vastly different.

Like I mentioned before, it's best for you to tinker with what works best for you.

DLSS is only for RTX 20 series cards and above.

[tough spire]

Grab a resource monitor for your computer and watch it while you have the game running. See what's being redlined.

[stone bay]

What software

Or do I just turn on the thing from MSI Afterburner

[tough spire]

Honestly even Task Manager works

[stone bay]

I am genuinely malding my frames are slightly more stable now

[soft narwhal]

enjoy

keep that in mind for other games you play too

[stone bay]

Yeah having played RDR 2 should've already prompted me to do it

Actually even my settings back in early access RoN were already High-Medium

[rugged imp]

https://www.nexusmods.com/readyornot/mods/3441/?tab=files
This is the AI MOD that feels closest to SWAT 4 AI, I really like it.

[stone bay]

Idk what kickstarted me to lower the settings when 1.0 dropped

[stone bay]

Played this AI mod a lot. Definitely nice for S ranking. But it felt as easy as No Crack

[rugged imp]

Is it a 0.4 enhanced version?

[stone bay]

Ye it still felt easy to the AI mod I’m using now

[prime wing]

graphics on ron arent really noticeable in my opinion

I would rather play on medium

[stone bay]

https://www.nexusmods.com/readyornot/search/

[prime wing]

with high view distance tho

but textures, shadows etc idc

[stone bay]

This is what I play with now

[stone bay]

Yeah it looks great even on Low

Not even capping

[prime wing]

with an sdk i wonder if it would be possible to lower those even more but idk

potato mode

[stone bay]

I put mine on Med cause not even Postal, Car Dealership, nor Port was a problem to me in terms of distances

Tho having moved the Post Effects from Low to Medium now

I realize how dark this fucking game is

[silk sail]

does FSR make a noticeable difference?

[stone bay]

On FPS yeah I can achieve above 60 fps but I stutter a lot more

Capping my fps also makes me stutter A LOT more

[silk sail]

i could get well over 200fps with FSR on

[silk sail]

vsync just turn that off

[stone bay]

Capping at 90 still made me stutter. Putting it on 120 fps isn’t much of a problem for some reason when I put it there

[stone bay]

Always

[silk sail]

every game i play i always turn off vsync

[stone bay]

Quality or Performance?

Performance looks dogshit for mine

Prolly cause I only have a 1080

[silk sail]

before i upgraded my pc, i could get 80fps on medium with fsr on performance

[silk sail]

it is dogshit, thats why its performance

[stone bay]

I’ll experiment more with the FSR, testing different settings cause only in FSR is where I hit above 60

[silk sail]

you got an amd gpu?

[stone bay]

Nah NVidia

[silk sail]

dlss not work for you?

[stone bay]

Not with this GTX 1050

[silk sail]

oh, i see

should still work, just keep experimenting

thats what i'd do

[stone bay]

What FSR should I get from the FSR 3 files?

2.1? 2.2? Normal 2.0?

what mod can be causing my light vest not showing

[silk sail]

not sure tbh, i don't really use fsr that much

[stone bay]

if you got a mod from mod.io and haven’t properly deleted the files yet, that’s one reason. Another could be conflicts I guess

[stone bay]

ayt imma experiment

[silk sail]

also its intergrated with the radeon adrenaline edition so its just automatically chooses the best one

[stone bay]

Mhmm

[silk sail]

happy hunting

[stone bay]

#🎬ron-clips-and-media message good thing I have my clips to compare the massive difference already

Fucking hell increasing the settings was all I needed all this time

[wary belfry]

Why slowmode the amount of time it takes for me to get a wife children and sustainable job

[sacred dagger]

oh man don't ya love having...

x12 magazine of 5.56x45 AP on DDM4A1
x5 magazine of .45ACP AP on USP45

x6 9-Bang Flashbang
x4 M67 Fragmentation Grenade
x3 C2 Breaching Charge
x2 ( 4 ) Door Wedge
x1 X26 Taser
x1 870MCS Breaching Shotgun

Ceramic Light Armor
Ballistic Mask
GPNVG-18

sorry for my loadout shitpost

[spiral crypt]

what's the quietest Non/less lethal

'cause I be getting wallbanged when I tase, beanbag, pepperball, pepperspray, drive stun, seemingly anything when I'm trying to 'sneakily' get a guy

[stone bay]

I think noise is the same for every weapon, even suppressors don't affect it

[spiral crypt]

some bs

[stone bay]

The fact that it takes seven to ten pepperballs to subdue a suspect or civilian is ridiculous. Full-auto TAC700 FTW.

[stone bay]

Yep, have a look at some of the ai mods on the ron nexus, default ai is overturned and is being addressed in an upcoming patch

[brittle sable]

tomb makes me sad
died to the last guy cause ai doesnt look at open breaches & leans into breaches to cuff

[brittle sable]

mf puts on 90 kilos of shit to raid the gas station

[stone bay]

Same tbh, although I carry twice as many primary mags as secondaries though.

[brittle sable]

ima be honest ive never used 12 mags on a map before

2 mags of AP, 2 mags of JHP on primary
1 mag of AP and 2 mags of JHP on secondary

[sacred dagger]

My guy still runs quickly

[brittle sable]

have you ever actually used the frags?

[sacred dagger]

Yes. I was on Mindjot ( Sinuous Trail ) earlier and a guy unexpectedly slammed through a door and shot me, which made me bleed. I got behind some cover, patched myself up and tossed a frag grenade over my piece of cover. Blew him to bits and reported his body.

They are quite effective. Would recommend.

[earnest phoenix]

where did you get frags from

[brittle sable]

gunfighter mod, also comes with 9 bangers

[sacred dagger]

I believe it's a part of Sniper or Not, latest version

[brittle sable]

or that

[sacred dagger]

Didn't show up until I updated Sniper or Not. Weird..

[remote skiff]

im curious , what limitations
on their kit have ppl tried?

[sacred dagger]

I love my 9 bangers 🇺🇸

[remote skiff]

texting with my sole clean finger

[sacred dagger]

Why are the others not clean? 🤨

[brittle sable]

pistol only is fun, so is taser only but it changes the dynamic cause you have to work way more to get clean taser hits

[earnest phoenix]

patrol officer (unmodded mk18 and glock, stab vest, no helmet and no equipment/grenades

[sacred dagger]

The Elephant, stab vest unmodded G19, no helmet and no tactical equipment

[brittle sable]

oh yeah try running a squad based on a real team from your country PD or similar
ive got a vicpol SOG loadout save

[remote skiff]

the rest have been tainted by potato chip oil and saliva

[sacred dagger]

You should probably wash your hands then

[remote skiff]

Can't, Im in covid quarantine and the bathroom far. But, I am a prepper and have sanitizer rtg

[sacred dagger]

Ahh that sucks man

[remote skiff]

yeah, hence being on discord after 1.5 years

[remote skiff]

just didnt expect a 50+ GB update for RON

[brittle sable]

continuing on from this
any interesting police units anyones created loadouts off of?

[sacred dagger]

#🎬ron-clips-and-media would anyone be able to answer possibly?

[remote skiff]

Thanks for the recoms ppl.

[sacred dagger]

?

[remote skiff]

recommendations for kit limitations

[sacred dagger]

Oh okay

[stone bay]

I’ve been trying to find out info on what the LAPD uses, but insofar have been unsuccessful so I’ve defaulted to a Tier 1 Operator loadout.

[sacred dagger]

I have a suggestion which is something I've done before. It was pretty fun and still effective.

Try using 1999 LA SWAT loadout and outfit

[lone comet]

REEEE JACKSON JUST KILLED ME

ARE YOU KIDDING ME

HERE TASTE OF YOUR OWN FUCKING MEDICINE

[stone bay]

I was doing that for a bit, but then I downloaded a mod that adds a bunch of real-world LAPD uniforms and that’s what I’ve been using ever since.

[sacred dagger]

Interesting

[lone comet]

Tactial my ass game

My teammate shot me when opening a door

[brittle sable]

lmao
what, your AI teammate?

[lone comet]

YES

NOT THE FIRST TIME THEY HAVE DONE IT

[brittle sable]

i mean it happens
usually cause youre standing in crossfires

[sacred dagger]

Yeah it was me

[lone comet]

One other time they just a gas can and it blew us all up

[brittle sable]

didnt think you could do that

[sacred dagger]

I'll make sure to use that to my advantage. What map?

[lone comet]

In swat 4 the mechanic map

[sacred dagger]

Oh

[brittle sable]

wait
swat 4 or ready or not?

or the swat 4 map on ready or not

[lone comet]

Swat 4

Then I accidentally shot a door and the bully struck my teammate

[brittle sable]

you is in #👮ron-discussion dawg

[lone comet]

Bullet

[sacred dagger]

We've heard about SWAT 4 mods for Ready or Not.. but what about Ready or Not mods for SWAT 4? 🤨 🤨

[lone comet]

Swat 4 is technically ready or not it’s the successor of ready or not

[sacred dagger]

Predecessor*

[lone comet]

Close enough

And the struggle is real o. The diamond map

God I hate that

[stone bay]

You can download it here:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1tAybnRdNxlE8UTp3J6Tt6O3_DwBnex25/view?usp=sharing

[lone comet]

I would eventually rage on stream when I was stuck on that level

[earnest phoenix]

its possible for ai teammates to mess up the grenade toss and have it bounce back to you

[brittle sable]

i do that shit too aight its hard i dont blame them
i tossed a 9 bang into the remnants of a door after c2 then tossed another 9 bang and bounced off the top of the frame

[loud tinsel]

Not yet, not by a long shot

[crisp ember]

yo ive been getting really bad fps in some areas in the hospital area, but i got a 3070ti. what are the best settings for my gpu?

[sacred dagger]

That's normal, don't worry

[stone bay]

Use dlss if you aren't already

[fiery flame]

50% resolution scale💀

[open harness]

What can be listed under the unauthorized use of force in the game?

[foggy zinc]

shooting downed suspects or civs and shooting suspects before they shoot you.

[crisp ember]

bro i hate relapse ive killed brought order to chaos and the civvies are still hiding

[final halo]

is the actual game vs the pirated one that big of a diference? (just bought it)

[dull raptor]

Yes. 1000 times yes. No multiplayer when pirated, mod support can easily break, AI is shittier than full release, no real time support nor hot fixes, it’s a glitchy mess, the list goes on

[final halo]

i mean my pirated was a recent release and mods worked but mp was a big deal breaker

like it let me use mod.io and the ai was the fixed one but still no mp sucks tbh

[dull raptor]

Pirated version with recent releases like this, easy to do. But the problem is pirates get left behind when the game gets like 100 updates in a year and gets better while the pirated version is like, 1.0.2

[final halo]

once the game isnt as popular as it is rn, they will stop updating or updating a lot less

[open harness]

oh so a bullet inside you is unavoidable

[final halo]

now with the big release they're obv updating as fast as they can

[final halo]

like the pirates

not the devs

anyways, 4 mins left to finally have mp lol

[stone bay]

Unless you download mods that loosen the ROE, yes

[quick wadi]

how does SWAT 4 run on modern hardware / OS?

[lone comet]

It runs pretty well if you have the right stuff

[quick wadi]

right stuff meaning...?

[lone comet]

Right settings a good computer

[waxen grove]

anything new?

[waxen grove]

yep

[quick wadi]

Mhmm that kinda means it has some issues, doesn't it?

[waxen grove]

it runs well

[lone comet]

No my computer runs great

[waxen grove]

not hard to get it running

and like swat elite force makes it easier to get working if you do run into issues

[fiery flame]

is there a mod that makes the ai more unfair

like lock on to you thorugh 2 layers of way becuase theh heard your footstep

[agile finch]

Why...

[fiery flame]

or all of them perchance are built like juggernauts

i feel like torturing myself

[dense quest]

ok on my 3rd playthrough I'm realizing mindjot is fucking annoying as fuck

somehow on my first 2 it went smoothly

my god sometimes the bullets don't go through the empty server racks, literally tapping a suspect's head like 10 times

[agile finch]

JHP or AP?

[dense quest]

swat AI keeps bugging out on areas and get themselves killed

AP

I really hate when they just refuse to stack up or just do anything I tell them sometimes and it's happening more often on mindjot idk wtf is going on

[latent mirage]

When clearing a big room, and i pass closed doors while going towards the end of the room. Then i see another closed door at the end of the room. Do i proceed with the door at the end or retrace and clear the doors ive passed?

[lost inlet]

AP if you hit in the torso, JHP if you keep hitting in the limbs

[earnest python]

full auto 👍

[cobalt sequoia]

any use of tazing, melee, or shooting before somebody else shoots you

[open harness]

well I tried to shove the gun at a guy back, and he just seemed surprised and started blasting

[vocal night]

wedge one of the doors and proceed

[vocal night]

melee is very unreliable and should be your last resort when you get caught with your pants down

[open harness]

no stealth attack, sadge

[vocal night]

honestly melee is in bad shape

[open harness]

stealth takedown when

[dull raptor]

Honestly, just use a SOCOM and hit them when they’re arrested

[vocal night]

you cant break windows and range is so small

[slender basalt]

if a member is stressed how can i fix that?

[dull raptor]

Therapy or give them a break

[prime wing]

Go to gas station

do a bunch of less lethal arrests

unless they are on a crisis

better to send them to therapy at that point

[dull raptor]

Yeah, they’ll quit if not

And then you have to hire another officer in their place

[prime wing]

What i do is take 3 who are not stressed and improve the one officer who is critical

If something goes wrong, I dont want to now have more officers on a worse state and I have to do more gas runs

one sec

had a stroke

there

[noble laurel]

When can I wall run with a katana?

[rocky garden]

Dev Team, any chance y'all could ban WatchmenWakeUponYt? It's getting really fucking annoying to hit his 24/7 lobby EVERY time I try playing this game, especially since all he does is spew religious bullshit.

[craggy yew]

Dodge the lobby?

[quick wadi]

This matter is indeed reaching an astonishing level of annoyance to the whole RoN community.

we should get some evidence from different users and do an official report

(complaining here won't do anything)

[stone bay]

what is the gpnvgs? I know it has to do something with night vision but I dont know what the gp means

[quick wadi]

maybe google it?

[stone bay]

I did

[quick wadi]

What is the difference between NVG and GPnvg?
Description. Panoramic night vision goggles GPNVG-18 (Ground Panoramic Night Vision Goggle). The cardinal difference of this NVG from the others is the presence of four separate EOP, two for each eye. Two Central EOPs are directed forward, while two more are directed outward from the center.

[shy tulip]

In-game, it is just a different model for NVGs. Irl, quad tube go bbrrrt

[stone bay]

epic

[mighty elbow]

AP ALL THE WAY use th sa 58 as well

[dull raptor]

AP, definitely AP, shooting through bulletproof glass is such a mood

[stone bay]

either I am doing something wrong but every door I open in lethal obsession insta kills me

[dull raptor]

Check for traps and disarm

[stone bay]

are the traps on the inside or am I just blind

[eager merlin]

theres melee?

[mighty elbow]

i can go ham with a gladius

[onyx axle]

Peek doors and check the floor in the little gap

or mirrorgun

[old scarab]

Guys i just got back into ron after 5 months and i skipped the tutorial (didnt think i need it)but now if i open the tablet i dont know how to view it, i can only open and close is it a setting to view tablet?

[stone bay]

should I use buckshot or slugs?

[mighty elbow]

slugs

[vapid moth]

I’ve only been playing the game for 3 days, I have ended up in the lobby half a dozen times at least. Is there some way to report & get this dork’s lobby out of matchmaking?

[soft narwhal]

Unfortunately no.

Just find another lobby or host your own.

[native rune]

The entire RoN multiplayer community being on its knees because of one dude

[stone stump]

all you need to do is have a bad ping with that "dude" btw

[crude prism]

Whenever you match with him, just crash his game with glowsticks

Collective effort it would take a few minutes

Considering they leave it AFK all day, it'll likely be down for a while

[umbral oar]

move away from his location

[near schooner]

to the almighty fucker that said ''melee is your last resort to when you get caught with your pants down'' i hope you know i thought of making a joke about getting caught with them down and punching anyone that went through my bed room door

[severe light]

Did glasses get removed from the game? I thought there was glasses in the game but now I can’t find it

[severe light]

Never mind I’m blind I see it now

[near schooner]

LENNEHHHH 🗣️

[quick wadi]

Just found this video on YT
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yynmXp81fVs

How come, 1 year later we are in the same state?

[tacit gull]

The only heal you ever get is if you're under 50% health and you stop your bleeding

[dull raptor]

Most realistic RoN suggestion

It’s half joking, half real. People say some way more outlandish stuff

I thought the same thing when I first played, but then I realized that enemies are easy to kill, so just kill them before they kill you and you’re fine. Or don’t get shot. Either way is fine.

[dull raptor]

I saw what you deleted (I cannot post the gif that says that)

[cobalt sequoia]

what did they say

I got a ping for it

[dull raptor]

my-honest-reaction.gif

He replied to you but I couldn’t click the gif in time

[full shore]

I'll buy all that you have. Take my money

[white goblet]

any bets that we don't get new updates before the super bowl

[dull raptor]

Depends, how far apart was WWI from WWII?

[void trellis]

Any bets WW3 breaks out before the Superbowl?

[hoary fox]

my advice is take a p90, 57, 4 mags primary and 2 mags secondary, 2/3 wedges and rest should be flashes, but if you go for non-lethal take beanbag shotgun

don`t enter through front door, enter from left, go right and clear the rooms trying to be as close as possible to avoid long-range fights

[woeful egret]

I always wedge every single outside door and just take it with the FAL

hasn't failed me so far

[strange raptor]

Hi guys, I haven't been on in a few weeks and am wondering if any progress has been made on fixing the absolutely cracked AI. Does anyone know what the dev team is doing to address this issue?

[dull raptor]

They’ve made progress. But this game is ran on spaghetti and waffles

[woeful egret]

next couple hotfixes should be performance and AI based, apparently not released yet

I'm in the same boat, haven't been home in a few weeks

[dull raptor]

In all realism, unless you want achievements and cosmetics, like I say about everything in 1.0, mods

[woeful egret]

mods don't affect achievements and cosmetics do they?

i've had no crack for AI installed basically since release and I've had no issues unlocking everything

[dull raptor]

Can’t get official scores is why I say that

[void trellis]

Life

[dull raptor]

Maybe it’s just a mod.io problem

Every time I play modded it says, “Not official score,” until I clear mod data

[woeful egret]

only achivement I've gone for I haven't managed to get is the revolver only on rust belt, but I assume that's due to me fucking up and using the ram

[north willow]

Mods don't affect this no

[north willow]

It's a mod detected thing, so people can't run a mod that breaks the game and cake walk an S mission then tlak shit imo

[dull raptor]

That makes sense

[void trellis]

You can

[north willow]

Yes

No

[quick wadi]

No

[karmic karma]

On Sinuous Trail I prefer something with a shorter length thats able to eat body armour. MP7 is good

[quick wadi]

Sorry meant to reply to this.

No. If you complete a mission in MP, you will have yet to complete that mission in SP to unlock the next one.

Although you can get all cosmetics playing in MP

[strange raptor]

hot damn, yeah it is. I was just practicing Ides of March, and my AI squadmate and I were both laid out by an enemy with his rifle poking THROUGH THE WALL. I am so not impressed with how Void has communicated about the issues with the enemy AI—seems like little to no mention of the issues we have all been talking about for well over a year.

Edit: I forgot they did actually mention suspect AI awareness in their dev briefing on January 19th. So, I take back what I said—but my frustration is more a consequence of how I am not a competitive gamer, so I more often than not feel angry than victorious after playing this game. Guess I will go back to the mods.

[mighty elbow]

you know that watchmenwakeup dude who preaches in his lobby in ready or not?

[normal patrol]

aare there hardcoded limits to the number of enemies that can be placed on the map?.

[naive marten]

Okay, so the second mission (23 megabytes a second) really made me think about it. I was expecting some real shit to be hitting the fan, but no, someone called the one-one on a streamer. I just sat there for a few minutes to reflect, I am already rating this game 10/10

[woeful egret]

just wait until you play ends of the earth

I am saying nothing more

[naive marten]

Please do not spoil it, thanks

[woeful egret]

I wouldn't dream of it

that's for you to discover

[true panther]

Even if the overall story can be less moving and subtle in many of the other missions the environmental details are really superb

Mindjot has some fun stuff all around the data center even if it doesn't really make sense for a business to openly display criminal activities on their meeting room whiteboards

[woeful egret]

the news articles|| on the lobby PCs about the streamer being raided were present before the streamer map was added|| right

[true panther]

idk, I never played before 1.0

[woeful egret]

I seem to remember that being a thing

[naive marten]

Going into 23mbps I was expecting that the dude actually did what was on the 911 call but no it was someone with a VoIP service and a VPN calling in to get some popcorn time. Now I see how not funny this is.

[woeful egret]

you found the soft objectives yet?

[true panther]

better yet is going to the evidence locker after missions, lots of cool little details there

[mighty elbow]

somehow he is sending me friend requests i dunno how

[woeful egret]

like religious preaching?

that's fucking hilarious if so

[naive marten]

You mean? I just check every room to ensure it's safe and cuff everyone

[woeful egret]

I don't want to spoil it for you, but check EVERY corner of his room

for things you can interact with

[naive marten]

Got you, I will find it myself. I did look at the computer (yes I was live on RON's ingame twitch) and the whole place is a mess

[mighty elbow]

yeah it was funny then he sent me three discord requests

[woeful egret]

😭

the chaplain spawned irl the fuck is this

[naive marten]

Oh, and ofc the game has the Casio F-91W, I am a fan!

[woeful egret]

yeah the watch/tattoo unlocks are really cool

[naive marten]

Also what I like is how the PD is stuck between 1995 and 2005, with pagers and classic PBX phones, old Vitek style CCTV cameras but more or less modern Dell computers and Cisco IP phones. Really drives home how strapped for cash the PD is

[woeful egret]

the environmental storytelling rivals the souls games IMO

I'm assuming you're playing through the missions for the first time? @naive marten

[naive marten]

I just got the game. A homie of mine said: you are unhinged, you MUST play this game to understand

[woeful egret]

you're in for a treat

[true panther]

walk into a any given public school, library, fire/police station and it might still be very well like that tbh

heck when I worked at stanford not too long ago some faculty was still using laptops running win98

[naive marten]

Where I live the police department has some really old school oak furniture. Zurich cantonal police is situated in a registered heritage building but they built a new wing so they got a cortyard

[ivory kiln]

Is midi a real city in yemen

[hoary fox]

at first you are tactical etc, now i call my style "insane mf shoots up terrorists and gives them a fucking vietnam then dies horribly"

[naive marten]

When I worked as a bus driver the machine used to clock in and take a breath sample ran FreeDOS (MS-DOS like designed for modern systems0

[woeful egret]

like an alcohol breatho test?

my local bus drivers need that holy shit

I have to drive past a major bus/train interchange to go pretty much anywhere and the number of times I've nearly been run into by a bus is insane

[hoary fox]

bus drivers in my city needed new buses, sometimes the doors would not close and bus drove with one of doors open

[naive marten]

Yea, before starting the shift a breath sample was collected, and random breath samples after were collected, occasionally we all had to submit a test for narcotics. What I think they were more concerned was the integrity of the contents of the fare box and not safety

[woeful egret]

I mean we have random roadside drug and alcohol testing near me but that's just anyone who goes through the road they're set up on

[naive marten]

For some reason government loves legacy hard/software

[woeful egret]

number of times I've been 20 min late to something because they had to prove I didn't have meth, weed or alcohol in my system is crazy

[woeful egret]

I'm glad that's a global thing

[naive marten]

When I went to work for cargo rail even if I had trace amounts of alcohol in my breath a whole process would start, even if I had a few last night, and it would probably by gone by the time I actually went to sit down at the controls

[woeful egret]

surely there's a lower limit to account for innacuracies in the machine itself

although where I am and with my current license rules the legal driving limit for me is a straight 0

[naive marten]

The machine would red out at 0.02 and anything over 0.01 would ask for a additional sample. You would get questions unless you got .000

[woeful egret]

they need to add a breatho and lick test into the game

[naive marten]

Actually, yea. Why doesnt the jail have a Intoxilyzer 8000? There's the fingerprinting machine but not the mugshot machine

[woeful egret]

I need that and the coffee machine speed buff back

AND THE FUCKING COFFEE MACHINE AUDIO HOLY SHIT

I still cannot believe they removed the coin sounds

[naive marten]

Some places in the station are really detailed while others remind me a bit of dead trigger 2, with stuff just put there for seamingly no rhyme or reason

[mighty elbow]

if you need help giving out freedom seed (556) i'm always ready to help

[hoary fox]

Aw hell ye sister, somewhere in the future (i play on EU)

[tough spire]

This is the most valid complaint I've heard about 1.0 yet

[silk sail]

no coffee in my police swat sim, unplayable

[woeful egret]

pre 1.0 me and my squad would drink a single coffee before every single raid

first thing we noticed was the missing audio

[tough spire]

☝️ literally. Worst decision they made.

[woeful egret]

the machine is still there

[tough spire]

Yeah but it's NERFED

[woeful egret]

it just doesn't have the audio

I NEED the coffee audio

[tough spire]

or the speed boost

[woeful egret]

I mean I can understand the removal of the speed boost

tbh we didn't find that until a couple days pre 1.0

[frail quartz]

I don't see the harm of the speed boost if you have to actively go out of your way to get it, it's just a fun easteregg

[woeful egret]

but the missing audio is just unacceptable

[tough spire]

It's an easter egg that harms nothing

and now our HQ is even bigger

[woeful egret]

except the suspects.

[foggy zinc]

hello fellow officers

[woeful egret]

hello !!!

[naive marten]

Looking at the videos, the coffee machine needs to return in one form or another

[foggy zinc]

BRO I HEARD ABOUT THAT RECENTLY

[woeful egret]

I gotta learn to code so I can re implement that

[foggy zinc]

i wanna storm the 213 park homes at Mach 5

[woeful egret]

on the same level as the suspects

[foggy zinc]

crack for swat mod amirite

surely there's a mod that like: "More crack for AI"

that makes them have ESP or sumn

[woeful egret]

I think that's just vanilla

I need a mod where my officer can down a pint of stella at the coffee machine

if that exists I am complete as a human being

[tough spire]

It always turned off on mission start tho

[spiral crypt]

is there a way to bind gold team HOLD to a specific keybind, would be useful for getting these goofballs to not overextend

[tough spire]

#🎨ron-screenshots-and-art message AFAIK this is the best way

[spiral crypt]

hmm, thanks, i'll try that

[tranquil swallow]

is buckshot or slug better for dismemberment?

[bright valley]

Buckshot.

[tawny scroll]

0< can someone pls revive raid/gign reskin mods

[placid thicket]

does anyone know if mods lock me out of unlocking cosmetics? i dont seem to be getting rewards for finishing missions

[gaunt flame]

Anyone else have a problem where you aren’t awarded achievements in multiplayer?

[stone bay]

Followed your advise of switching to DX12 @vocal agate damn I get no stutters when I C2 doors. Though the only problem is it’s borderline impossible to move when I’m in the Police HQ cause I get like less than 10 fps there. But once I’m in a mission, let the map load in, couple of stutters, and frame drops, then suddenly my frames become real stable once it really gets going compared to DX11

Admittedly yeah DX11 does give me more frames but with a lot of stutters. DX12 gives me a lot of initial stutters and frame drops but the longer I play, the more stable the frames become

[minor patio]

When is the CQC tactical M249 SAW coming

[tough spire]

When we become a milsim

[mighty elbow]

nah do a mg 3 or mg 42 or an mp 40 or a rpk

[mighty elbow]

those are much sexier guns as long as you don't mess with them looks wise

or add an m1 garand

[empty eagle]

AAnyone know how to teach CQC?

[tough spire]

We have an MG. It's called the P90

[tough spire]

How deep do you want to go

[minor patio]

Do the new M82 drum mag

[empty eagle]

Just basics to understand so I can play with more tactical people.

[tough spire]

I mean I can teach you basics sometime, if you'd like.

[empty eagle]

Sure, whats your timezone?

[tough spire]

Pacific

[empty eagle]

Same

[tough spire]

I can also send you some good videos of folks who go hard and as long as you try to emulate the basics it'll help a ton

[empty eagle]

You able to play now or nah?

[empty eagle]

sure DMs

[frail quartz]

#🎨ron-screenshots-and-art message

[tough spire]

Not now, possibly later tonight. I can send you videos now tho. I'll just send 'em to #🎨ron-screenshots-and-art

[void trellis]

Never? Wtf?

[minor patio]

Like in R6 siege?

They have it in there

[void trellis]

This mf is insane

[minor patio]

And also Montaigne shield

[void trellis]

Gl with the tac M249.

[tough spire]

R6 Siege is just Call of Duty Tom Clancy edition

[mighty elbow]

and just as bad

[void trellis]

This mf

[tough spire]

I hate R6S more than CoD because at least CoD knows what it is. As long as R6S wears the title "Rainbow Six" it is a mockery.

[mighty elbow]

i never played but i heard it was meant to be a multiplayer tactical cqb thing and they said fuck it they have robot arms and super powers

[tough spire]

First release? Ruled. It was tactical and clever. Then they turned it into a psuedo-moba where more and more new heroes get unlocked with more and more ridiculous superpower equipment.

[mighty elbow]

master chief and sam fisher could beat every member of rainbow and nighthaven so why are they even in the game it makes no sense lol

[fresh oxide]

if you see the e3 2014 trailer, the game looks super fun. It’s not fun at all

[mighty elbow]

damn

[empty eagle]

When you thinking you'll be on?

Wait oh

Wrong person, sorry

[white goblet]

How much

[empty eagle]

When are you thinking you will be on?

[void trellis]

500

[tough spire]

Prolly around 7PM tomorrow safely

[empty eagle]

lol

Dang long time.

[dense quest]

I think due to the game aiming to be repeatable and unpredictable every run it adds a huge limitation to AI behavior

If it was scripted levels you'd be able to make very realistic suspect behavior and scenarios

But then it'd be a one time experience

[tough spire]

100% this. You'd also create a gameplay experience that is entirely predictable and you'd get very bored once you knew how to game it every time.

[dense quest]

It'd be like cod campaigns maybe which I absolutely love (at least up to BO2) but you don't really play them more than twice plus you'd just kill the multiplayer experience

[frail quartz]

I've already said it multiple times but one of the biggest issues I have with the predictability are just the suspect locations, I find myself rushing through/lazily clearing areas because the ai can't spawn or travel there

[tough spire]

omfg YES 😂

I literally have on my Brisa guide for newbies "yeah you can just ignore this spot" on that entry

[frail quartz]

The map designers included all of these side rooms and blindspots and only half of them are actually utilized

[tough spire]

They should set up a fake PvP tournament to see how/where players would hide and ambush for inspiration

[mighty elbow]

in the bathroom

or the bedroom

[tough spire]

Are we talking about PvP?

[mighty elbow]

yea

[white goblet]

500 RUS Roubles 🤝 Deal

[mighty elbow]

and maybe some other things

[dull raptor]

:0

[bright valley]

ngl I don't even want them to be smarter about their positioning until their accuracy and response times can chill tf out

[tough spire]

lol yes. For sure.

[earnest python]

the game six days in fallujah has that

[minor patio]

Lol

[shy tulip]

Yeah but they make it the virgin M249 by not giving it a flashlight

[white goblet]

game has no free look = garbage game

[bright valley]

@tough spire You got me rewatching Karmakut's CQB video :P

[tough spire]

You gonna multiplay with us now?

[bright valley]

Who's us in this context?

[tough spire]

Everyone. All of us. The entire "we."

(I don't know I really only usually hop in when folks are asking for help)

[bright valley]

'cause I don't hate the idea of trying multiplayer with people who seem nice, though I've got really really bad rural internet.

[tough spire]

I was playing with someone from Russia earlier and somehow don't mind the latency for this game (!?)

[bright valley]

Oh I have a friend who I've played with who lives in the same county as me, it cycles between playable and horribly dodgy even in ideal circumstances like that.

We're talking shitty phone line internet here.

[tough spire]

Just put me on the worst ping situation. I'm intimately involved with dying. 💪 🥲

[bright valley]

Basically the closer the host is to the Southeastern US, the better.

Making me host would just mean everyone has to deal with my internet problems.

Honestly, 1.0 overhauling the AI SWAT has been a godsend for me, even if it's still pretty rough around the edges.

[stone bay]

Yeah

but AIs wallbang like crazy

[bright valley]

One of those things that'll hopefully be fixed sooner than later.

[tough spire]

I play solo 90% of the time, I hear this. I know so many of their quirks and how to work around them now (and am perpetually baffled by others. :fistshakeemoji: )

[brittle sable]

man how do you get the focus command to work more than 50% of the time
if i do a move to, then a focus here command, they look at the spot, then back instantly

[tough spire]

Huh. I never had any trouble with that but admittedly don't use it often. I can give it a look

[brittle sable]

i use it a ton
especially on more open maps, the AI covers some stupid shit so you have to get them on more logical spots when you do bounding

[bright valley]

I think Focus pretty much doesn't work if they're in part of a formation like a stack.

[brittle sable]

okay so i gotta individual move him to unlock him out of the move to stack i guess

[native rune]

A Hold order also works

[ivory kiln]

did the entire lspd get killed by crackheads

and d platoon is the only one remaining

[hearty vine]

This is FISA. Stand down and shut that door, entry team. We're sending a unit to secure the container and it's contents.

[hoary fox]

fuck off FISA, I wanna look at naked women begging me to help them

[stone bay]

Kurwa...

[dense quest]

You're more fucked up than fisa 💀

[hoary fox]

i just wanna help them

[ivory kiln]

fuck you

never

[earnest phoenix]

🤓☝️

[hearty vine]

We Just Doing For They Safely

[earnest phoenix]

nerd

[hearty vine]

That Not Nice

[ivory kiln]

cope

[vivid root]

Why Are You Capitalizing Every Word

[dull raptor]

They safely

[pine sedge]

Hello this is the feds. Go fuck off swat, we’re stealing credit

[hearty vine]

Not Allow

[near schooner]

i think suspects have licked 9 volt batterys

hence why they have in-human reaction speed

[uncut nacelle]

Janitor

aint that u

[dense quest]

ok yeah there's no solid strat for greased palms

it's just a pain in the ass every single time

[bitter mason]

I usually took on the conveyer room last. It's usually the biggest ass pain. Just gotta pray you don't get wasted through walls

[stone bay]

is there any way to be able to hold m1 to shoot instead of having to click

[dense quest]

yeah I clear outside first as well

[bitter mason]

You mean full auto?

[dense quest]

what I just did is after clearing outside (including the building) and the first reception room, I entered the conveyor room from the side and managed to clear it after many injuries, then doubled back to the reception and entered the first warehouse area (where the fisa office is) from there and cleared the upstairs room then down into the fisa office

[stone bay]

yes

[bitter mason]

I believe it is X by default

[dense quest]

it's X by default yeah

[stone bay]

ok thanks

[dense quest]

or find it in your controls, you can toggle fully automatic fire mode

[bitter mason]

I often find semi auto to be better anyways
More controllable

[dense quest]

yeah but with SMGs I always run auto

cuz they can't drop suspects in a couple shots most of the time

what would be the point of going P90 without full auto anyway? missing out on the fun

[stone bay]

Semi automatic is life

[quick wadi]

🤮

That scene actually makes me sick. Same with the kid at Twisted Nerve.

[slim fern]

Not to mention the used condom nearby. That was tenfolds fucked than it needed to be

[quick wadi]

Yes I agree. It is not like the 'narrative' needed that. Was straight up fucked enough without the condom.

[dense quest]

tf? I never saw that

I only noticed the syringe

[quick wadi]

fuck man, I'm feeling sick

what a mess of a world we live in

[dense quest]

doesn't make me sick anymore I've heard and seen too much at 25

it's nothing new how fucked up humans are

[quick wadi]

No it isn't new

[slim fern]

Cruel reality sometimes. I hope this game has more missions that orient itself around distressing scenarios without going overboard edgelords, like Ends of the earth or something

[wispy burrow]

The mission after ides of march is so fucking hard I tried 50 times last time every time I get one shot out of nowhere I hate this game

[quick wadi]

I agree. It's something... interesting to have some 'really dark-af' missions. But wouldn't hard to have a bit more of 'regular/classic crime' scenarios. Idk... Heists or drugs and more 'not-trascendental' stuff.

[wispy burrow]

hey man there’s always the option to kill everyone

[quick wadi]

I straight gave up on some missions all together till they fix AI

[wispy burrow]

yeah dude AI has a millisecond reaction time and you’re dead like what the fuck

[quick wadi]

That doesn't repair at all the damage done

[wispy burrow]

I don’t even have time to react and I’m already dead it’s really annoying

[quick wadi]

And they see you across the map and wall-bang the heck out of you

[wispy burrow]

I love this game man but AI is making me lose my mind I think I’m going to try some of the AI mods maybe that’ll help

[topaz bane]

Yeah its a pain in the ass almost clearing a mission to get 1 tapped through an R6 pixel angle. I love the game but the AI pisses me off, given up S rank runs for now lol

[dull raptor]

The game can be like that, one tap from an AI on a perfect run. Friendly AI weak as paper, Judge even weaker lol.

[quick wadi]

You can say on some maps it is fine: For example: Hide and Seek or Carriers of the Vine... They are HARD. But its doable playing good enough with a serious team. They have insane aim but playing tactically enaugh you can overcome it. But other missions, like... Greased Palms. It is just silly. They will see you and engage you from angles from where is it impossible for a human to spot them back. So it becomes literally unplayable.

[topaz bane]

Yep. Almost did Valley S and literally when looking for the final suspect he popped 2 of my guys through the stairs in main open area. Greased Palms is just different lmao

[fast jetty]

it took me 2 weeks on and off to beat greased palms lol, didn’t help that i domed the fbi dude in the head first time not knowing he needed to be alive

[uncut nacelle]

2nd try

i cant beat sinious trail S, cuz of wallbangs from nowhere

[stone bay]

Can we like figure out a way to combat the watchmen guy. I get leaving the game but when I join his server 5 times in a row it makes me want to refund the game at this point.

[balmy sentinel]

Post office?

Take a .300BO gun or the SA-58 with a 4 or 12X on it, slow lean every corner and use the long sightlines to your advantage.

Also plentiful use of flashes/gas + your team.

[uncut nacelle]

just go with random smg

tell your teammates to be up front

search etc

[native rune]

On maps like greased palms enemies will be invisible till I get close enough which is really obnoxious

[quick wadi]

Also you could say. Hey, in a horribly hostile enviroment maybe tear gas can be an option. Well, NO. They can shoot you through the smoke cloud of the tear gas. Thus, again: They see you and you don't. So get rekt son.

[midnight goblet]

how do i put no vest on

[oak crown]

What's the practical difference between flashbangs and stinger grenades in RoN and SWAT 4?

[quiet pebble]

Anyone know what unlocking "In Memoriam" is? Just beat valley of the dolls and got an S rank running non lethals, but no idea what it is.

[topaz bane]

i would imagine its a tattoo or something. pretty sure you unlock a few of them through S ranks n stuff

[tight frigate]

yeah it is a tattoo

[quiet pebble]

Oh gotcha, thanks

[bright valley]

I've heard conflicting information about RoN's nades so I'm not sure if anyone actually knows.

[craggy yew]

Gas gang on top

[ivory kiln]

what's the difference between baricaded suspects and raid

[shy tulip]

Raid has a lose ROE, it basically means you can shoot on sight anyone with a gun. Barricaded basically means you have to actually shout at suspects and shoot when they are a threat

[ivory kiln]

ah i see

i never got to experience those game modes

[dense quest]

Bullets have a limited range too that's shorter than the render distance

Happens a lot on greased palms if you're running long scope

It's annoying af

That whole map is annoying af

[umbral oar]

is this real chat

[dense quest]

Brudda take a sa58 with long scope and clear greased palms outside moving slowly, you'll see they suddenly pop into your render distance and shooting them does nothing unless you move closer

[stone bay]

I’m slowly but surely learning how to wedge doors.

[karmic wraith]

Do you guys legit try and change loadout on your AI team mates depending on the mission or just stick with the "winning one"?

[stone bay]

Depending on my mood

Not the mission per se

[stone bay]

I have something like ten or so loadouts. One for each officer with officer-specific loadouts for long tactical (Currently all four are running the Mk-18) I have gas-specific loadouts for myself as the PL and Swan.

[bright valley]

It is, like, just cumbersome enough to change the whole team's loadouts that I don't do it very often; and certainly not on a per-mission basis.

I do have a few saved loadouts, but that's mostly so I have a sensible composition to fall back on.

[umbral oar]

im guessing its because the optics are zeroed for close quarters so you might need to aim a bit lower than usual

[dense quest]

I mean I was aiming at their torso but maybe you're right

I tried shooting torso and head

[umbral oar]

but honestly the bullet disappearing is believable too

i would not be surprised

[dense quest]

I might test it out for fun later if I remember

But for now I need a break from greased palms 💀

[umbral oar]

Tru

[kindred pawn]

Hello, I have not played since Early Access. It appears this 1.0 release is totally different. Is there ONLY supposed to be one mission available at start? Why are all the locations not available at start? Can they be? Thanks

[slender adder]

you unlock the rest of the levels as you play

it's more story-focused now

[kindred pawn]

Thanks

[shrewd oriole]

The hallway ceilings in the hospital are very tall.

[dull raptor]

Not played it but agree

[inland bay]

Ides Of March is a real pain in the ass to try for S rank.

I'm also very glad that practice mode allows you to enjoy the story without worrying about the stress meters.

[north sparrow]

Yo guys, dont mean to interrupt, but is anyone having issues with relapse? I crash everytime i try to play it in the black loading screen

I have verified my files twice now

[near schooner]

my friend has a RTX 950 TI

and recentloy

i found out he had a fucking school pc

and when i let him play ready or not, his pc sent on fire and died

void made the game so realistic in the fact that even the pc has its limit

[slender adder]

950 is just bad

it also doesn't have a Ti model so you are probably thinking of something else, 980 Ti, perhaps?

[dull raptor]

Series 9 models are still around?

[inland bay]

My Predator Helios runs it really smooth. No lag, no stuttering, beautiful graphics, etc.

Definitely recommend it

[dull raptor]

The Laptop?

Why the fu- just build a desktop at that price

[tidal river]

yo what mission is the hardest to get S rank on??

[undone valve]

I've seen people complain about greased palms and ides of march the most

[dull raptor]

All of them except for Thank You, Come Again are difficult

[undone valve]

some are easier than others

[dull raptor]

True, not disagreeing. This is just a hard game

[winter orbit]

I had one until last year

[dull raptor]

Guess I’m just blessed to have such a good setup. Damn, the more you know

[undone valve]

🙏

[winter orbit]

Yeah but went from a 980 Ti to a 2080 super

[dull raptor]

That’s solid, 2080 holds up imo

[undone valve]

I would have 2 extra S tiers under my belt if my AI didn't execute the last guy on 23mbps and ides of march 😭

[winter orbit]

Also to nitpick, it's a GTX 950, not RTX 950
RTX wasn't a thing until the 20 series

[dull raptor]

Mhm, true nods

[tidal river]

did u try changing ai's equipment?

[undone valve]

don't think it'd do much

they ran out of beanbag ammo and decides to hit them with a glock

[tidal river]

i mean if u give them non-lethal guns and take their pistol ammo im sure they wont kill anyone

[undone valve]

I forgot that was an option

I'll try that

never thought about yoinking their pistol ammo

[tidal river]

yeahh figured it out when i was trying to do that hospital mission on s

and they kept killing that important guy

[undone valve]

I feel like they don't reload individual shells

and only do it when they've emptied the full tube

[dense quest]

I think ai does better with pepperball imo

also they'll sometimes kill suspects with beanbag to the head

[undone valve]

I haven't had that happen yet

I'm the only one who's done that on my team 😭

[distant plover]

Playing mindjolt makes me wanna unalive myself

[topaz cedar]

just use gas

[distant plover]

It's a bit hard when you get wall banged or one tapped every fucking time

[topaz cedar]

use heaviest armor

use gasmasks

[distant plover]

I already use gasmasks

And I don't need heavy armor as I'd die anyway

[supple plume]

Heavy and steel

[wispy burrow]

It literally doesn’t matter when AI one taps you every time

[wispy burrow]

Isn’t concrete the best

[supple plume]

Hm

[slate bear]

how do i ''mute'' my mic ingame? do i just set the VOIP volume to 0% and others cant hear me? we're all just voice chatting on discord so we dont really need our mics ingame

[livid notch]

light vest + ceramic is far better

[supple plume]

Fr?

[umbral oar]

WRONG!

[dense quest]

concrete body armor 🔥 🔥

[wispy burrow]

shit I said concrete vest lmao I just realized that

I’m tired bro my brain isn’t working

[slender adder]

ceramic is the best if the traits were to work properly

right now armorers don't actually offer extra durability

[wispy burrow]

facts

[distant plover]

I managed to pass that mission and even I couldn't describe how

it was a mess tho, even one civilian casualty (nobody cares)

[void trellis]

Should I download RoN on my external storage -

[quick wadi]

rocking produly 1080 Ti here. Playing RoN at 80 fps solid (could go 100 really, but with 100hz monitor I don't see that much benefit between 80 and 100)

[dull raptor]

I'm so sorry for your loss

[void trellis]

Huh

[dull raptor]

1080 is old lol. Just joshing about.

[void trellis]

Fr

[stone stump]

of course not

[void trellis]

I have a clean USB drive with 117 gb

[dull raptor]

A $17 SSD Portable storage at Walmart is $16.94 what on earth?

[void trellis]

Well it was 118 but its only giving me 116 gb

[distant plover]

No....just no...you shouldn't play any complex game on an USB drive

[void trellis]

Yeah, I agree. I'm factory resetting my pc due to massive performance issues on small ass games as well.

[distant plover]

https://tenor.com/view/what-in-tarnation-wtf-wth-confused-gif-15632887

[void trellis]

I'm having other issues with it as well