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[dense quest]

gonna let my partner use it since she doesn't play fps games

[stone bay]

If you semi fire it’s not really a big problem with an SMFB Brake + Vertical Grip. But if you full auto a lot then yeah don’t use it

[crude prism]

416 is at it's worst when fired in semi, because of the stupid bounce

[opaque birch]

so the 357 magnum is best thx 4 confirming mod

[dense quest]

the way I'm testing is semi fire without pulling down my mouse, seeing how many bullets it can hit a target practice without going over it

[stone bay]

Never felt it unless I use a suppressor. The bounce is fucking crazy

[dense quest]

and yes I'm using suppressor because suppressed guns are too cool not to use 😂

I'll try with the brake tho

[opaque birch]

for some reason i used to use the 416 as an entry weapon

and i used it suppressed

[stone bay]

Oh yeah 416 for sure will lose that

Compared to the other ARs

[opaque birch]

cuz of the gas piston right

i remember reading that somewhere

that it has a gas piston

[dense quest]

yeah 416 with brake and vertical grip recoils about the same as .300 with suppressor and combat grip

damn brakes reduce vertical recoil by so much

I never even tried them lmao

[earnest python]

try the G36 with a vertical grip and brake and see how easy it is to keep it on target

[crude prism]

Benefit of having a usable optic

[dense quest]

yeah I just did, about as good as f90

but f90 is a tiny bit less it feels

both feel super smooth

[crude prism]

G36 doesn't have the least vertical climb, but it does have 0 muzzle flip, your sight is as steady as it gets for rifles

[dense quest]

I'm only testing vertical recoil currently, but g36 has very little of it too

[frail quartz]

IRL the short stroke gas system would actually make the recoil a bit lighter than on direct impingement ARs

[opaque birch]

every day i wake up and wonder what the fuck they were thinking with the rear sight of the hk416

[dense quest]

damn the .300 rifles have insanely little vertical recoil actually with vertical grip and brake

[frail quartz]

I am torn between not wanting an unrealistically thin optic and wanting to actually see what I'm aiming at

I guess my brain just might need to get used to it some more?

[dense quest]

actually I think mcx has the least vertical recoil LOL

with brake and vertical grip

or maybe it's exactly on par with f90 idk

hard to tell when there's no option to reset the targets bullet holes

[frail quartz]

Can't you just do it on two separate targets and compare?

[dense quest]

not really cuz they're not the same distance

so it'd be unfair

even the ones that go far away they seem a little different when I look at them from the side

I think these 2 are the same distance actually #🎨ron-screenshots-and-art message

I'll reset lobby and compare f90 vs mcx

[opaque birch]

yeah they are

[crude prism]

If the other optics weren't so shitty, this wouldn't be an issue

🤷

[opaque birch]

yeah the ga416 has an unbearable recoil pattern lmao

[silk yoke]

Holosight or nothing

Or that one rmo dot or whatever its called

Sro?

[slender adder]

SA58 doesn't one tap everyone on every map

[dense quest]

okay they're pretty much exactly the same

[opaque birch]

it probably still performs better than the 556 against body armor

[dense quest]

both fit 6 bullets starting from the middle

[livid notch]

yes, but in most cases in one-tap body shot

[opaque birch]

the sa58 actually has pretty low recoil for what it is with the grip and brake

[dense quest]

TLDR use .300 cuz it's just a better bullet, but I'm gonna finally compare MCX and ARN vertical recoil

actually TLDR use whatever you enjoy but for those who want least recoil and strongest gun etc

[frail quartz]

It's not as bad as in other games that lowers the viewmodel FOV more when you ADS, I wonder if there's a way to add that or if It'd get in the way of the system where bullets come from the barrel

[opaque birch]

it just deafens everyone once you finish a mag lolol

[dense quest]

uff they're pretty much the same, I think MCX is a tiiiiny bit less

I'd give the "best gun" award to the ARN though because it's a little shorter and that's pretty important in a lot of scenarios

[frail quartz]

I prefer it over the MCX because KEYMOD........

[sour creek]

You change cops in the police station by holding tab, traits, i think you have to hire new cops

np

[hazy topaz]

should i get taco bell

[stark hollow]

cold af

[patent hearth]

lol dickmod, in the year of our lord, 2024

[prime mural]

Wait what doesn't it onetap incap?

[crude prism]

It won't 1-tap on any of the maps with increased suspect health

[velvet tide]

how to get balaclava in ron

[dense quest]

It sometimes onetapped when I used it in greased palms, but also took 2 shots other times

[crude prism]

If you're not getting 1 shots to center mass on greased palms, your hits are probably being caught by the arms/hands

[velvet tide]

how to get balaclava in ron

[patent hearth]

either that or they're actually modeling level 4 which will catch 7.62x51AP out of a 24in barrel, nevermind the 10ish inch one in an sa58 OSW

[crude prism]

Nobody has armor on greased palms, suspects got those steel plated abs

[crude prism]

Imagine if the suspects in L4 vests actually caught the AP rifle rounds we used, people would mald

[patent hearth]

people should learn to pelvic girdle.

[crude prism]

True, but at that point we're getting a little too deep into extra hitboxes

[patent hearth]

I already do it so that I can run the P90 on every level.

because more boolit always better.

at least by video game logic

[crude prism]

P90 funne

many boolet

[patent hearth]

the ol centerfire 22 magnum

[fading quiver]

is there a mod where i can have more than 4 ai officers

[dense quest]

Is port hokan a long range map that'd be good for an sa58 long scope?

My partner will be with an MCX or so

It'll be our first time playing it

No spoilers would've been nice but I got spoiled accidentally by just using this server already 🤣

[patent hearth]

too bad there are no LPVO's in ready or not

[dense quest]

Ask in #🔧modding-chat but I don't think so

There are mods for more than 5 players in multiplayer but never heard of one for ai

But swat ai is op anyway you don't need more than 4

[velvet tide]

how to get balaclava in ron

[native rune]

Mods

[dense quest]

Actually maybe not since there are || civvies in the containers||

Idk

I had great success with a "sniper" sa58 on greased palms but it barely has civilians anyway

[dreamy hatch]

Is there a way for me to see if I already completed a map from the menu?

[dense quest]

Nope 😬

[tough spire]

||They're simultaneously alive/dead until you open the container, just don't ever check.||

[native rune]

I mean if the next map is unlocked then you played the previous one

Or you just didn’t get a good enough score ig

[dense quest]

||schordinger's cat type shit lmaooo||

[tough spire]

Quantum tactics, yo.

[dense quest]

Good way of living life

[tranquil swallow]

does armor coverage affect speed of operator? like only having front coverage

[dreamy hatch]

Problem is the following:
I want to get the old police gear for which I need to complete all maps. I played the new maps first on release with my friends

So some maps are unlocked in singleplayer now although I didnt play the maps before

[native rune]

Yes

That’s weird @dreamy hatch

[tranquil swallow]

i feel like front coverage is the only useful one

[dense quest]

I never felt the need to move faster so I always went full coverage

[native rune]

Most engagements will happen from your front so yeah pretty much, back and side armor is precautionary

[dense quest]

Back coverage however completely saved me and my partner's neon tomb run cuz I died and the last suspect shot her from behind but she somehow lived and turned around and dropped his ass

[dreamy hatch]

So my map selection has Valley of the Dolls, Elephant, Rust Belt, Sins of the Father and Carriers of the Vine, in that order

[tranquil swallow]

an then type of armor i guess would be map dependent. kevlar if suspects are packing pistol calibre weapons liek 9mm

[dense quest]

I always rock ceramic, can't go wrong with it

[tranquil swallow]

it seems only kevlar and ceramic are the only good ones

[dreamy hatch]

Obviously I still have to complete Neon Tomb etc between Sins and Carriers but I have no ideas which other maps I have completed

[tranquil swallow]

with the downsides of steel it's hardly worth it

[dense quest]

Idk much about steel but ceramic makes the gameplay more fun, I like the high stakes after it breaks and it feels like yep I deserve this cuz I took too many shots

[proven blade]

Does anyone know normal peace officer mods? Like Sherrifs, park rangers, or just like a patrol officer

[native rune]

Steel is technically better if you plan on eating tons of shots because it’s damage reduction never diminishes, but this is not the case 90% of the time so ceramic is my favorite

[dreamy hatch]

Well steel has the advantage that it doesnt break.
I sometimes use Heavy Armor with steel only in front because I am mostly shot at front

[tranquil swallow]

there's a mod that sets pistol as primary

[proven blade]

I’m talking mainly about skins

[dreamy hatch]

Kevlar is always in the slots you dont equip steel or ceramic afaik

[proven blade]

But alright

[native rune]

This

[karmic shuttle]

has anyone here ever heard of doorkickers

[tranquil swallow]

@proven blade check this out https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=15TFWK_oSTo

[dense quest]

@proven blade yes I saw a video about it today actually

Oh yeah it's the one blizzard just posted

[tranquil swallow]

it's actually several mods

[proven blade]

Can you list all of them

Or does it have it in the description

[dense quest]

I downloaded it today and it was a single zipped file I think, didn't look in it

[tranquil swallow]

lapd officer mod, pistols as primary and invisible equipment. it's in the description

[proven blade]

Thanks

[tough spire]

What does LAPD officer mod do

[tranquil swallow]

lapd uniforms

[tranquil swallow]

i like going pistol only house raid. I hope Void makes more smaller maps

[tough spire]

Ahh

[proven blade]

I’m sad that I can’t play the rest of the campaign

Oops

Didn’t mean to reply

[tranquil swallow]

i want more maps like gas station

[proven blade]

Yeah

Less obscene maps

[tranquil swallow]

i know there's modded maps but can't really do those maps in multiplayer

unless everyone has the map installed

[proven blade]

Also

How do you make those maps

Is there like an editor?

[tranquil swallow]

no idea how they make them

[amber dock]

UE4 4.27

[proven blade]

So you have to like actually model

[amber dock]

Not necessarily, you can reference in-game models.

[proven blade]

Well that sucks

[amber dock]

Nah, referencing in-game models is easy

Or you can use Blender to create your own

[proven blade]

I’ve used UE before

I couldn’t even get half way into the scripting tutorial

[amber dock]

I’ve made 4 levels and basically haven’t scripted anything

[proven blade]

But yeah

I tried to insert a rock and my entire laptop broke but yeah

I guess I’ll try again

[amber dock]

Oof

If you’re interested, I can send you the link to the mapping discord. There’s guides and templates there.

[dense quest]

Yeah once I finish port I will get into playing custom maps

And if there are small maps I will use the officer mod for them

[pallid zephyr]

I want a mod that replaces the women on Carriers Of The Vine with battle robot death lesbians

[tranquil swallow]

anyone here finish port pistol only

[tranquil swallow]

theres a convenience store custom map

whats is the equivalent of a colt .45 in this game?

[tight frigate]

best guess is the M45

[stone bay]

Is there a way to make the mirror gun full screen instead of the tiny box like it is default?

[shy tulip]

I am 50% sure that tiny box is not by default

But yes

[stone bay]

How

[shy tulip]

Settings

I forget what it's called

[stone bay]

I was kinda confused because before the update mine was full screen and it went to the tiny box

[tough spire]

It's in the general options. I switch back and forth a lot.

[bold sky]

you can swap mirrorgun from picture in picture to fullscreen

its in the first tab of settings if you scroll down, lost among the bunch of boxes

[digital nest]

Did the developers remove the different gamemodes? Before, there were active shooter, hostage rescue, things like that

Did they just combine them all into a single game mode?

[stone stump]

every map has their own intended gamemode. what that means is they are a mix of old gamemodes, more or less

[digital nest]

ohhh i see, thanks!!

[urban walrus]

Yes, "Ability to pick which mission type to play a level on has been removed due to limitations with design and testing, and to avoid narrative conflicts."

[stone stump]

but afaik theres no map that would be similar to the old "raid" gamemode, which had very loose RoE

RoE is kinda way too loose anyway, courtesy of adam update's "hotfixes"

[kindred crag]

theoretically would Pvt. Parts be an inappropriate name

[tough spire]

Only past middle school or so

[kindred crag]

ok

thanks

hoping I dont get banned

[tough spire]

I believe in you

[shy tulip]

https://tenor.com/view/not-mad-zac-efron-gif-10091500

[hushed meadow]

Hey void can you please perma ban the idiot Watchmanwoke up? He goes into public lobbies and spam schizo shit on the mic and throws the game.

[grizzled raft]

Guys, flash vs. stingers, are they situational or is it a question of preference?

[tough spire]

Situational

[grizzled raft]

Great, any help understanding the difference and usage is appreciated :)

[tight frigate]

imo both, but you’re going to be using flashes a lot
also stingers don’t have much range so uh

[mossy hatch]

dont stingers have a chance for the stinger ball itself to miss? or is it just AOE like the flash?

[grizzled raft]

That's what I have difficulty understanding - Also a question of whether I should be using one over the other based on how effective its stun is supposed to be. Because thus far, the difference between the two in a standard room is arbitrary. Unless someone's noticed anything different

[tough spire]

Flash has a wider radius of effect but no kinetic element. Stingers have a smaller radius of effect but launch rubber balls everywhere that can stun. So if a room has a lot of cover, don't use stingers. If it doesn't, it's the best.

[grizzled raft]

Have you found the stun longer than a blind, for example?

[stone bay]

Is there such a thing as too much standoff distance? I can’t tell you how many cops I’ve lost due to not being far enough away from the charge and detonating.

[grizzled raft]

Haven't had the problem myself. Usually, the AI will stack close enough to the wall (regardless of the stack used) and survive the blast.

[tough spire]

They can stand right next to it as long as the door isn't booby trapped

[turbid sand]

Your guys are probably getting killed by a booby trap.

[stone bay]

That seems to be the consensus.

[grizzled raft]

I am assuming we checked for booby traps lol

[stone bay]

I did, which is specifically why I ordered a retreat, but I guess we weren’t far enough away.

A suspect just phased through the wall in the process of being arrested.

[grizzled raft]

Ah damn, classic suspect shenanigans

[balmy sentinel]

i love slow alt leaning a corner after slow walking the edge of a hallway just to get 2 tapped from an angle i literally cant see.

god the AI fixes cannot come soon enough.

[crystal sierra]

Anyone knows what is 3rd soft objective on Streamer map? I found only Streamer's PC and Crypto Rigs in apartment on First floor?

[stone bay]

There are indecent images of minors (Read: CSAM) on the nightstand

[crystal sierra]

That's also inside streamer's room or.. ?

[stone bay]

Yes, on the same side as the computer

[crystal sierra]

Kk, ty xD

Legit failed my S run cuz of that objective 😦

[tough spire]

Being bad at finding someone's hidden porn stash is probably a positive statement to your general character, at least.

[crystal sierra]

I mean, since i'm playing vanilla version, primary objective for me is to stay alive / make my bots stay alive somehow xDDDDD

Finding objectives on the go basiclly, what i hate tho is the fact that NPCs can't find that kind of objectives with search and secure options.

[pure patio]

Do FBI shot back at SWAT on duty ? cause FISA guy in Grease Palm really put up a fight

[tranquil swallow]

anyone ever go taser only in your S runs?

[bright valley]

Nearly the whole world of Ready or Not is extra dodgy, and there's a decent amount of evidence to suggest that FISA is corrupt.

[crystal sierra]

My best advice would be to go painball gun yourself, and run 2 painball guns + 2 beanbags on bots, but empty the pistol mags on them. pretty much works fine, but there is low chance of suspects dying sometimes if shot in the head with beanbag. Forgot to mention, don't forget a gas mask as well on yourselkf

[viscid bane]

Paintball gun isn’t real

[crystal sierra]

Forgot the exact name, it's last gun in AR section, VCH or something like that was the name.

[bright valley]

Paintball gun can't hurt you (much)

[viscid bane]

VKS pepperball gun

[crystal sierra]

That one, i found it pretty useful for S rank missions, but you need gas mask on you, otherwise there is high chance of friendly fire if you accidentaly step into gas range after shooting with VKS

[bright valley]

Shame the TPL is so underwhelming. However, the last dev briefing mentioned possibly making it a secondary weapon, which could be interesting.

[crystal sierra]

I'm still pissed about bad civilian AI tho, not the suspect one, but civilians, had one time situation where some civilian literary pulled phone on me, like wtf

[bright valley]

Oh, just go for the restrain while they have the phone out. They're technically surrendered in that state.

[waxen grove]

anything new

[viscid bane]

That trick works a maximum of once, once you know the suspect and AI models+animations it’s easy to spot

[crystal sierra]

I mean, it's pretty fucked up mechanic if you ask me, most of the situations where suspects have little to none armor should legit go smoothly without any kind of casulty, i understand maps like mindjot where they have heavy armor, even Port Hookan, since the size of the map gives them advantage to fight overall. But fight back on gas station or that streamer map? Lmao

[viscid bane]

Unfortunately all AI are terminators atm

There’s no difference between a gas station robber and a combat vet turned terrorist

[coral rock]

I miss when Eli had the balaclava now he just looks like Ned Flanders

[alpine steeple]

Real

[rare temple]

Hello guys, Does anyone know how to disable HUD in helmet cam (Spectator mode)?

I don't care it's mod or something

[stone bay]

There is a binding for hiding hud, F3 try that

[rare temple]

Oh, can it even do in that mode? I'll try it. thx

[stone bay]

I'd imagine yes but never tried it myself

[lost imp]

hey stupid question, in idles march if you dont actually arrest 3 people does it just autofail the mission

[bright valley]

It'll fail the objective, but it doesn't force a mission end.

[lost imp]

or does it progress to the next level

my important question is does it mean I have to play it again, because im just kinda sick of that level

[bright valley]

Oh, hmm, I wish I knew.

[pearl shuttle]

you can progress

[lost imp]

ok thank fuck, because im gonna be honest I just really dont like the less lethal weapons that much

[bright valley]

For some of those objectives you can get away with using equipment like grenades/C2/tasers rather than running full blown LTL primaries.

[lost imp]

problem is my other guys would keep smacking people in the head if they were gased or not

[bright valley]

Yeah, that's a fair point.

[terse merlin]

as long as you get a C grade or above you can progress

also after Greased Palms it stops telling you about unlocked missions but you DO keep unlocking more missions

[digital obsidian]

you can progress as long as you complete the mission

[analog hedge]

Brisa Crove S rank tips ??

[stone bay]

Always check for traps.

Also bring an abundance of gas

[silk sail]

clear central area

worked for me in my last run

[analog hedge]

Not the issue really I always die to the last guy because of all the accumulation of stress before hand or it’s always my teammate dying even if I go in first

[silk sail]

do you block your doors?

[analog hedge]

yes obviously

[silk sail]

should be easy then

[analog hedge]

I really don’t want to use ai mods because it feels like cheating and this mission is making me feel like I should quit for my own sanity lmao

[silk sail]

pre patch ai is like almost impossible without getting wallbanged

you can do it easy, but you'll be scratching your head

[analog hedge]

Yeah well I like giving myself pain

[silk sail]

have fun getting hbp

[analog hedge]

I’ll give it one hour more ( been a week since I’ve been trying to get it)

[silk sail]

damn

[analog hedge]

Exams are over so I have nothing to do anyway

[silk sail]

lol you destress with high stress

respect

[analog hedge]

The satisfaction at the end is worth it

[bright valley]

OK, after experimenting a little bit with using the VKS for indirect fire, I can kind of see why some people like this thing.

[stone bay]

Got that AoE pepper

[bright valley]

Doesn't render the beanbag shotgun totally obsolete 'cause mmmn that reliable stun and ammo economy, but being able to pepper a large bathroom-sized room by popping the floor 3-5 times from the doorway is kinda rad.

[stone bay]

I used to do 2 beanbag and 2 VKS on my team but after a few accidental kills from SWAT AI, I gave them all VKS then I’m the one using Beanbag

Plus they shoot the head as many times as they want

[bright valley]

I think the VKS is also just a lot more effective when you've got multiple spamming the same target lol

[lusty wraith]

Does anyone have a mod to remvoe the friendly AI?

[stone bay]

I shoot the ground with pepperballs near a surrendered suspect so they don’t try their usual shit

Especially if there are multiple in the room

[bright valley]

I feel like you really to commit a lot of slots to pepperballs if you want to really get the full use out of it. It's not like other weapons where you can fly by with like 2-3 magazines for the whole mission.

[stone bay]

You can host a multiplayer game, puts you in solo

[stone bay]

https://www.nexusmods.com/readyornot/mods/1314

[lusty wraith]

thanks, i also forgot multiplayer remvoes ai

[stone bay]

You can shoot anytime you want since it’s not unauthorized use of force anyway cause less lethal

[bright valley]

Oh yes

I made a big feedback post on the AI SWAT's use of LTLs, and one of my points was how they don't make use of that particular advantage at all when they could.
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[stone bay]

Goddamn that is a long post

[bright valley]

Oh I know! There's bullet points at the bottom for all the changes/solutions I was proposing, everything before that is just what the problems are and why I'm suggesting what I am. It disappoints me that hardly anyone has gone through the effort of reading it all, 'cause I genuinely put a lot thought into my feedback.

[stone bay]

Yeah I get the gist of it

It would defo be nice if they shot immediately with LTL and you have some teammates using lethal guns. So it could look like the SWAT AI is shouting for compliance before deciding to put down the suspect. That’d make for an interesting LTL + Lethal comp

[stone bay]

In its current state (especially vanilla) we all know it’s impossible cause they fucking kill the suspects before you even see them (on lethal runs at least)

[pallid zephyr]

Incapacitation doesn't count towards none lethal does it?

[stone bay]

Used to. But in 1.0 nah

[pallid zephyr]

Damn. 7.62 to the stomach really seems to work well at stopping them from moving without making them forever sleep

[bright valley]

If you have an arrest objective, incapacitations are acceptable I believe, but incaps are scored as less than proper arrests.

[stone bay]

C2 is my favorite incap. That’s probably the only reliable way I’ve gotten fake deaths from suspects

[bright valley]

Mhmm. If the changes I'm suggesting work in practice how I'm expecting them to on paper, you'd be able to get away with having a single designated LTL officer on an otherwise lethally-equipped team, or hell, maybe even tasers would be enough sometimes.

[pallid zephyr]

I really wish they'd add one of those 1x-4x sights that switch within the sight rather than a top sight or just a laser

Either that or canted sights would be quite nice

[stone bay]

Yeah I remember watching the dev blog of being able to deploy Beanbags against non compliant civis or suspects

[bright valley]

I totally get how it was supposed to work if that dev vlog can be any indication, the implementation just only half-works in practice, and that's a shame.

Encounters with suspects are just way too fast and deadly for players to fiddle with the command menu in the midst of chaos.

[dense quest]

Is there an LTL pistol irl?

Would be handy in game

[stone bay]

Ong not to mention their perfect accuracy + faster than an F1 driver reaction time

[bright valley]

Besides the Taser which we do have in-game, there's the Pepperball TRP and the Byrna LE and SD.

[dense quest]

Yeah I guess I meant pepperball pistol

Would be nice

[bright valley]

Unfortunately, they have really tiny magazines, like 5-6 rounds each. That'd be super underpowered with the way the game's equipment slot system works.

[dense quest]

Oh yeah I wanted to ask, in relapse does quadamah wear a specific thing that you can tell?

I don't get how I was supposed to keep him alive in a war zone

[bright valley]

In my experience, he's always been in a hospital gown near where the MRI machine is.

[dense quest]

How is he even on his feet shooting a weapon lmao wasn't he in a bad condition

[bright valley]

That's... a good question actually lol

[dense quest]

I had also assumed he'd be in a patient's clothes since they supposedly freed him out of his bed

I guess he is as you said

You wear the gown as a patient too right?

Oh yeah you apparently wear it as a bedridden patient who got a surgery

Yet the mf is running around with an AK

[stone bay]

He’s bald and has a gown and has a pistol

[dense quest]

I swear he had a rifle I guess I was tripping

[stone bay]

I think that’s in Neon Nightclub. Idk if they’re the same person tho

[dense quest]

He is the same guy

[stone bay]

Yeah rifle on Neon, pistol on Relapse

[dense quest]

And yes it's even more ridiculous in neon

He looks just like the others doesn't he

[stone bay]

I only know it’s him in Relapse when someone shoots a pistol at me

[bright valley]

He's got some sort of hat I think.

[dense quest]

It's such a stupid objective to arrest someone in a mass shooting

[stone bay]

But you can defo reliably find him in this area

He’s always in that floor

[dense quest]

Maybe I'll go p90 and just hope he gets incapped

[dense quest]

Alright thank you both, I'll watch out for that

[stone bay]

The fastest method to get to him is through Hospital Main Lobby Entry, go up the stairs past the morgue and you’re already on that floor

[dense quest]

I think I got lucky in neon to incap him

But he died on my first relapse playthrough

[stone bay]

He’s gonna die a lot more if you repeat those 2 missions for fun

[dense quest]

I have 2 playthroughs, solo with swat ai and duo with my partner

He died in the duo playthrough in both missions lol

We panick too much to attempt to keep him alive

Also in carriers I was on the balcony and someone shot at me from a doorway (all I can see is black because of the shadows and sun)

I shot there once and the blonde lady to arrest insta dies

[stone bay]

RoN moment

[dense quest]

I had .300 blk but still, some suspects in relapse tanked over 2 shots so idk exactly how hp works

[coral rock]

Beanbag shotgun my beloved

[stone bay]

That thing is great

[coral rock]

Imma be honest because of the beanbag gun some maps are easier on non lethal than lethal

[wheat wren]

What is the 1.5 gb update

[undone valve]

failed brisa cove a bunch with lethal, swapped to the beanbag and finished it

probably would've got S if my AI didn't execute the last suspect with their glock

feels like the AI only reload the beanbag when it's empty, and not when they've just used a few rounds

[stone bay]

According to Steamdb there is no new patch perhaps your installation bugged out and needs to redownload data

[ivory kiln]

am i the only one with performance issues

[stone bay]

Nope, Void have stated that performance optimizations will be in the next 2 hotfixes, in the mean time try DX12 or DX11 if you're using the opposite

[ivory kiln]

i use dx11

[stone bay]

Have you tried DX12?

[ivory kiln]

nope imma try that instead

[jagged wedge]

I have been getting some weird stuttering/lag in frames on and off but it's random and not that often, seems to start usually when I first start up the game and go into the police station. I play DX12 with mods.

Running high settings with a 3060ti.

[stone bay]

Perhaps try dx11 in conjunction with dlss

[ivory kiln]

i tried it and it lags often

[viscid bane]

ive completed every level but i didnt get LSPD 99 outfit

[winter shadow]

You need to do in commander mode

[viscid bane]

it doesnt say that

[winter shadow]

I feel ya pain

[viscid bane]

im modding them in

[winter shadow]

Many people confusing about it cuz thought it will unlock in MP but it doesn't

You have to do it in commander mode to unlock it

[tacit gull]

You don't, you can unlock it in multiplayer

[winter shadow]

It doesn't

[tacit gull]

Sometimes levels can just not count for whatever reason

[winter shadow]

I tried on MP and it doesn't unlock all of it

[viscid bane]

ive done every map in mp

[tacit gull]

Sorry to say but i've never finished commander and i have '99

[viscid bane]

it shouldve been me

[winter shadow]

Before or after 1.0?

[tacit gull]

Customisation didn't exist pre 1.0

[winter shadow]

Make sense but well, he didn't get '99 from MP when he played all the map

[tacit gull]

I did, i played through all maps in multi the day the game came out and i got SWAT '99

My save file got deleted even and i still got SWAT '99 from playing multiplayer

[winter shadow]

@viscid bane and you didn't get it even you played all of the maps in MP?

[viscid bane]

yes

[winter shadow]

Rip

Guess Commander mode time

Good luck with bots and even mods still count doe, don't worry

I got '99 cuz I completed the commander mode

[viscid bane]

i just modded them in

only cosmetics i want tbh

[winter shadow]

I just let all my bots use SA-58 and full armor + No mercy terrorist so they only kill

Or and Dead or Alive mod as well

[viscid bane]

The ai struggle with the same areas I do

[winter shadow]

GOOD LUCK!!!!

[tacit gull]

I would suggest doing practice mode instead

[winter shadow]

I did commander mode and jeez...I need therapist too ;-;

[bitter mason]

Practice mode ftw

[tacit gull]

I've always just dropped my commander mode saves at the clemente, not fun

[bitter mason]

I gave up on commander mode pretty quick since the lack of a quick restart makes it extra frustrating

I don't want to commit to a mission if the friendly ai mag dumps a civilian right at the start

[tacit gull]

All of this could have been avoided if they had the decency to just drop a quick UI at the end of missions

[stone bay]

I unlocked SWAT 99 just completing Practice Mode

[quick wadi]

Do you know if devs are aware of laser pointer 'flickering' / 'blinking' when VFX setting is 'Low' or 'Medium'?
I want it to look as good as when VFX is set on 'High'. Thing is, with VFX set to 'High' I get a lot of nice shiny reflection effects off surfaces: I don't really value that kind of graphic fidelity and I rather have some extra frames per second.

[hazy topaz]

but skin for the bob gun

just sayin

[craggy yew]

Do you think Gerard was smoking that zaza while waiting for D platoon?

[plain flower]

how long are my teammates in therapy?

[stone bay]

https://www.nexusmods.com/readyornot/mods/2918 found a good gun mod to replace the SR-16. I love using it now

[stone bay]

Naw he was busy getting scolded by his comrades on what he did to those 5 cops and are worried the SWAT will come for them

[stone bay]

It indicates there the number of missions they will be out

[craggy yew]

Your telling me they didn’t pass the blunt to each other to calm themselves down

[stone bay]

They didn’t but they sure got smoked by D Platoon

[crisp ember]

Aye when I free lean (using default keybind, alt) I can't seem to call for compliance (space for me). Probably cuz alt+space is a windows shortcut for something (I forgot). Is there a better keybind for freee lean or do I just gotta cope and find a better compliance button

[stone bay]

You’re not using F for the yell?

[crisp ember]

na

something something found it better to have them separate

interact and compliance that is

[stone bay]

That’s only cause people mistakenly yell instead of closing a door

Ain’t that big of a problem for me

I still have them on the same button (F)

[crisp ember]

well yeah that did annoy me

[stone bay]

You get used to it knowing where to look when you close a door anyway

[crisp ember]

yeah at this point I guess

[ivory kiln]

bout to start relapse any tips?

[waxen grove]

anything new

[tacit gull]

No

[quick wadi]

can someone share his feeling about Buckshot vs Slug and Choke vs Brake for RoN shotguns? I do know what they are and do IRL but I don't know what works best in game.

[earnest wolf]

@quick wadi this might be useful for you https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1d89lpFDA9lo_v13iBlnhtuA6DvuUnKfPaeo0d4RBGJ4/edit#gid=1886726900

It has a lot of the different weapon stats

basically buckshot has higher damage total if all the pellets hit, but obviously you have the spread so slugs are better at range. buckshot with a choke is like half way between buck and slugs I guess

[faint cradle]

The top floor on the second entry side is death for the ai. They will just walk in and die most of the time if you aren't careful

Also I usually just c2 the morgue because there can be like 5 guys in there sometimes

[bitter mason]

Pretty sure shotguns are super weak against armour in this game even slugs which should be better against armour than buckshot iic

[earnest wolf]

yeah true. At least with buck you've got more chance of pellets hitting unarmoured spots due to spread

[quick wadi]

thanks a lot @earnest wolf !! 🫶

[earnest wolf]

you're welcome 🙂

[bitter mason]

You can pretty much guarantee a straight up kill if you shoot the limbs with buckshot since the dismemberment range is super high

But of course it's usually better to arrest or incap

[stone bay]

Don’t forget to restrain decapitated suspects. You never know

[bitter mason]

Better safe than sorry 🕵️

[earnest wolf]

lol

[quick wadi]

I want a shotgun for full shit and giggles after becoming tired of S run tries so... No worries that won't be an issue 😈

[bitter mason]

Mwuhaha

[stone bay]

My take is if you want a lot of dismemberments, go Buckshot. Slugs have lower chance to dismember. And even against armored suspects, Buckshot will annihilate them

[quick wadi]

You get aimed at. You get one yell. Don't comply? Get rekt son. 🤣

[quick wadi]

Don't really go for dismemberment... Just a realiable 1 shot - 1 down. So if a slug reliably penetrates armor and enemies go down with shot to torso, that's good. But I did a bit of sa search about mechanics in RoN and I read people complaining about slug being bad and buckshot working better with armored enemies so... That's why I wanted to ask. That was an old reddit post so it may be outdated so... yeah

If Buckshot works well with armor, then I'll run buckshot + choke. 😄

[ivory kiln]

how often do you guys use jhp

same

[bitter mason]

I often forget to swap to it but I think it's better against no armour

[stone bay]

On pistols always. I like seeing them bleed

Just don’t aim at their armor

[ivory kiln]

i don't even swap cuz it does their job even against no armor

[ivory kiln]

damn bro

[bitter mason]

Sanest Ron player

[ivory kiln]

tbf i like when suspects fake surrender

[stone bay]

I say always cause I swap to pistol in really tight quarters cause my current main weapon is the SR-16

[ivory kiln]

i get a reason to shoot them

[stone bay]

Shit’s long as hell

[ivory kiln]

do you guys try to spare any of "the hand" members

[bitter mason]

Do you guys like the stubby ar, the long ar, the tan ar, the other tan ar or the sci fi ar?

[stone bay]

Not with this mod https://www.nexusmods.com/readyornot/mods/3234

[bitter mason]

I try to spare everyone but that usually doesn't go far because everyone wants to die it seems

[earnest wolf]

You don't buy a third pistol unless you plan to use it

[ivory kiln]

i don't try to spare anyone

i shoot everyone especially the terrorists

fuck them they should die

i like seeing them suffer like they did to their victims

[earnest wolf]

I haven't seen that poster at the station 😄

[bitter mason]

More satisfying to arrest imo. If only you could taunt them when arrested like in swat 4

[stone bay]

Then the mod I suggested is defo the one for you. Don’t gotta worry about shooting on sight

[ivory kiln]

ty will download

[stone bay]

Or unauthorize use of force

[ivory kiln]

i tried to complete the campaign vanilla

[bitter mason]

I'm sorry

[ivory kiln]

but with how hard carriers of the vine was i decided to download mods

[stone bay]

Still pretty close to the end

[ivory kiln]

i know but that mission was a pain in the ass and i'm not a masochist

[stone bay]

Greased Palms vanilla

[earnest wolf]

I finished carriers of the vine last night... apart from one civilian that I couldn't find

[stone bay]

Valley of the Shooting Glass vanilla

[ivory kiln]

yeah i completed it vanilla

[earnest wolf]

I searched the entire map several times. There was no civilian

[ivory kiln]

i regret it

[stone bay]

[bitter mason]

Me when void removes the feature where civiies run to the player when suspects are dealt with and instead make the last suspect rush you

[earnest wolf]

Did that used to be a feature?! That would have saved me... or at least stopped me wasting an hour searching for a civilian that I'm convinced didn't exist 😦

[stone bay]

I loved that feature. My friends killed so many civis because of it

[bitter mason]

Yup
But they often ran full sprint Into your face, it could be quite startling

[earnest wolf]

lol 😄

[ivory kiln]

really??

[bitter mason]

Really?? To what
More satisfying arresting them or taunting in swat 4

[ivory kiln]

the taunting

[bitter mason]

They just needed to learn about personal space and boundaries and it would be fine

[ivory kiln]

i've never played swat 4 so idk anything about the game

but taunting them is interesting and cool

[earnest wolf]

I really think they should add something like that back in. Searching the map for civilians at the end is a huge chore

[bitter mason]

Yea If you press f on an arrested person there'd be a voice line
For civilians it's usually like "you're gonna be ok now" or something but there was ones for suspects like "you got off easy punk" and "tell it to the judge"

[ivory kiln]

nice

i want that in the game

especially for amos voll and the hand

[bitter mason]

It's a nice detail

Swat 4 also imo had better suspects ai in some ways, and it's stricter roe made arresting far more important and satisfying

[earnest wolf]

I wanted to march all the arrested suspects in Voll's mansion down to the basement to show them what they're defending

[bitter mason]

Fr
Killing a lot of these guys is too easy for them
Swat 4 I'd always try and take key suspects alive more than others. Death is too easy for them

[earnest wolf]

yeah for sure

Voll surrenders pretty easily at least. Not a brave man

his wife gave me more trouble lol

[bitter mason]

Lol

[earnest wolf]

she managed to scare the crap out of me and I think nearly kill me when I finally found her while sweeping for civilians

[ivory kiln]

i shot her if she punched me

[earnest wolf]

haha

[ivory kiln]

he might pull a gun on you but rarely

he's more likely to surrender without a fight

tf

[earnest wolf]

hiding behind his army of ex-cops

It made me wonder if the officers who quit my SWAT team go to work for Voll

[ivory kiln]

bruh

[earnest wolf]

:/

[ivory kiln]

anyways he's a dirty coward

killing those kids

but shitting his pants when guys with guns come in

[earnest wolf]

yeah scumbag

[ivory kiln]

and the hand

man i read their voicelines for being arrested and they have 180 change in mood

from lol i killed a lot of people to pls don't kill me i'm unarmed

[ivory kiln]

is his wife aware of his activities

[earnest wolf]

I assume so, but maybe not. She's nasty to his daughter though

[ivory kiln]

i just thought so since she's pretty stubborn

[earnest wolf]

I thought maybe she hates the daughter because she knows that Voll's only got eyes for young girls

[bitter mason]

glad he isnt always armed now, he used to be unarmed for a while before they then made him always armed im pretty sure

[earnest wolf]

yeah that's cool. I like unpredictability

[bitter mason]

yea wish other levels were done better

cough cough streamer cough cough

[ivory kiln]

i would like it if some enemies easily surrendered while others were stubborn

[bitter mason]

I've said it sooo freaking much but yeah
game needs a clearer difficulty curve rather than the mess it is now

[ivory kiln]

enemies like the hand and the ex veterans should be stubborn

[earnest wolf]

Yeah. I really like the idea of suspects surrendering and then pulling a weapon. The first time I went to arrest on 4U and got stabbed to death was a cool moment. But it feels like they do it the majority of the time so it's not a surprise anymore

[ivory kiln]

gangbangers and metheads should more like to surrender

[crystal sierra]

Are mod.io manager in Mods section broken or... ??

[bitter mason]

even they should be varied imo
More frequently stubborn but still have some that are easier to get than others

[ivory kiln]

agreed

[earnest wolf]

I find it really buggy. Most of the time the mods don't appear to finish downloading, but if I leave it for a while and then let the game restart they're there and they work

[bitter mason]

Not sure, dont really hear praises about mod.io, I've had some mods just not work off of there in the past. I'd recommend downloading mods manually using nexus mods

[earnest wolf]

ok I'm trying Carriers of the Vine again. If I end up with a missing civilian again I'm downloading the menu mod 😄

[bitter mason]

do you have swat ai with you

[ivory kiln]

i'm amused at how stubborn suspects can be

[bitter mason]

Im guessing they werent search and securing properly

[ivory kiln]

a swat officer is holding you at gunpoint and you think that pulling your gun will work

[stone bay]

“Here’s my ID officer”

[earnest wolf]

Yeah I do. I'd been searching myself with them following me for about 20 minutes before I thought to try search and secure.

They all walked off in different directions. I followed one and he checked under a bed and then went back to following me

eventually they all returned to following me, and if I gave the order again they just stood there lol

[azure basalt]

They need to add machine guns and rockets

[ivory kiln]

searching for the last civvie on relapse

search and secure doesn't work like i thought it would

[shrewd oriole]

Si happy the devs put time and effort into making every multicam outfit different

So you can't pair them together

[noble laurel]

Why would you even use a pepperball gun

[crude prism]

Add some seasoning to the suspects

[atomic thorn]

We need frag grenades

[opaque birch]

breaks ROE

also "our objective is to bring order to chaos not create widows and orphans"

[carmine cairn]

im trying to enable AMD Fluid Motion Frames, but keep getting a black screen, anything i can do?

[glossy remnant]

thats very optional

[opaque birch]

its still a priority and, considering that, the PD obv wont issue things that have the express purpose of killing people indiscriminately

[glossy remnant]

i mean listen i just did hospital i did bombs and chaos but i couldnt find all the civs so instead of walking in circles for 40 minutes i just shot a civ and failed the objective

[opaque birch]

yeah but thats kinda based tbh

[glossy remnant]

if the map wasnt a maze obviously i would do it but doing it on S just once was enough

but hey i got my diamond watch so im never touching the game again

[ivory kiln]

Extremely based

Don't know why i never did that

[glossy remnant]

i mean i still got like a D so it wasnt that bad although i also shot 2 suspects by accident cuz they were in the medical attire

[ivory kiln]

Lol

[noble laurel]

Can guards see through open doors?

[opaque birch]

i dont understand this question?
theyre open i think so

[noble laurel]

The door is open, but the door is still obscuring my view of them. Yet they seem to be able to see me just fine

[opaque birch]

i think this might be the game being coded funny

like idk how to explain it

cuz i dont code so idk if this is how it works

but the door is in "open status" so the AI acts as if theres nothing there even though it still obstructs their vision

that might be it

but dont take my word for it

[errant patio]

is there a way to set a ''helmet camera'' on yourself, like a gopro while playing/moving?

the camera debug says it has a ''helmet cam'' feature, but i couldnt figure out how to use it

[foggy zinc]

My best guess is that AI FOV works like a cone with a collider attached, where anything within range is detected and gets shot at possibly. This may/may not be why people get wallbanged magically through floors/walls.

[shadow bough]

Anybody else having issues with the crackhouse mission ? OG one

I can't find the last ones

Supposedly there's at least 1 civvie and 1 bad guy left, can't find them

I heard them giving up when I gave the command but I looked everywhere and they're not here

OMFG ! I found them

They were moving around the map and evading me and my team

For f's sake

[karmic shuttle]

has anyone ever thought of adding rubber bullets to the game

the beanbag punishes you immediately if you miss the shot but the pepperballs take extended amounts of fire to make any difference; I feel like there should be a middle ground

because personally non lethal is a burden that I don't want to deal with

but I need to for S

[fiery flame]

when automatic beanbag shotgun

[karmic shuttle]

semi auto beanbag would be pretty useful too

[fiery flame]

no, just full auto

[karmic shuttle]

I mean all the lethal weapons are as effective as can be but sometimes with cover and items blocking way the more effective beanbag misses target or hits something else and I get beamed by captain bootlicker finkelbottom the third

[karmic shuttle]

given each "mag" of shotgun ammo is only like 8 shells you would consume ammo too quickly lol

[fiery flame]

so

[karmic shuttle]

unless you had like an AA12 with beanbag but honestly you'll probably end up killing the guy before you get to arrest him with that

[stone bay]

Rechamber the AA-12 to beanbag rounds and you’re set

[shadow bough]

Eh ... I find CS gas to be pretty fun and easy to use

Just load up your entire team with CS and go crazy

[fiery flame]

i prefer the gen-12

[karmic shuttle]

gassing every room is not the most fun thing in the whole world to be honest

and it's not super duper fun when they can see you but it's hard to see them through the gas

[shadow bough]

You don't have to gas Every room

You have the less than lethal guns too

And stingers/flashes too I guess

Stingers/Flashes for small rooms, CS for bigger rooms

[fiery flame]

the olny reason i want automatic beanbag shotgun is to make S rank fun

[crude prism]

tac700 back when

[karmic shuttle]

regardless I don't see why rubber bullets are not a thing in the game

[fiery flame]

who wont like hitting a person with 72 beanbags

[karmic shuttle]

it's not like they're some exotic ammo type or anything

[shadow bough]

You are right, they should be

[brittle swan]

theres a mod that adds them

i wouldnt use it for the first s rank, but after that its fun

[stone bay]

Which mod?

[karmic shuttle]

I hope I don't get banned for posting a link

anyways look at #🎬ron-clips-and-media and watch that. that's what I mean by you can't see but they can and it's a minor nuisance

[brittle swan]

https://www.nexusmods.com/readyornot/mods/253

[fervent orbit]

m32a1 back first please

[stone bay]

Cool thanks

[crude prism]

m32a1 that fires huge pepperballs when

[karmic shuttle]

m32a1 that fires fucking mustard gas when

[fervent orbit]

would be happy with just regular frags 😋

was trying to reclear post office just to prove i could and christ that map is still a fucking pain

[shadow bough]

Oh yea I know, it's stupid, they need to work on it some more, and it shouldn't even be that hard to fix ... idk how they mess it up that badly

[dreamy garden]

Would you still unlock cosmetics if you play modded/S rank?

I see so many people doing modded runs for score but it says unofficial

So what would it be

[terse merlin]

Yes

The unofficial score just means the numbers don't get recorded for future reference, that's it

Everything else still works as normal

[fluid lark]

please fix garbage loadout UI

[patent hearth]

rubber bullets don't make sense in a swat context

they're not less lethal unless you bounce them off a hard surface first. That's why they're used at range against crowds and in prisons with concrete floors.

beanbags and less lethals in general barely make sense in a swat context, that's already stretching.

[stone bay]

I've heard that you unlock like new lore if you complete maps on S, is this real or nah? Or like when you finish the game or something

[dense quest]

lost an officer in relapse fml they pushed too far (as always) into the surgery room and the officer who died was of course the one pushed the furthest

[prime wing]

Most of the game does not make sense when you look at the details and logic behind some decisions, because at the end of the day it is a game. Sending 4 guys with no resources or backup to deal with a terrorist situation is already nonsensical. Thats how games toe the balancing or choices that they want.

Ballistics/gear and the poor balance with some of the ammunition is another whole discussion.

[prime wing]

you get drip watch and gear from some maps.

[dense quest]

not only deal with a terrorist situation but arrest the leader who's rocking a fully automatic rifle shooting everyone on sight

[patent hearth]

but not if you only play multiplayer, for some insane reason

[stone bay]

Yeah I know about that, but someone was telling me that it unlocks like new reports or something? I don't really know

[prime wing]

I dont recall from the top of my head, but as far as I know the evidence is pretty much what we get after completing missions

[stone bay]

Alright thanks, I'll have to ask him what he meant I kinda forgot

He was saying something like it unlocked new lore but I'm pretty sure that was just the game ending or something

[humble mauve]

yes you get little bits of evidence from each map after you complete it in commander mode, the higher rank you get the more evidence you unlock

I think there's ~3 for each level

[silk junco]

hai blue

[stone bay]

Thanks, I'll have to look because I was curious about it

[humble mauve]

helo

[stone bay]

@humble mauve is it just in the mission brief tab?

[silk junco]

how is dog..

[humble mauve]

they'll show up in the evidence locker

[silk junco]

i think name is rose

[humble mauve]

yes

dog is dog

[silk junco]

dawg 😎

[prime wing]

what the dawg said

[humble mauve]

It's next to the locker room, you unlock it after completing Gas

[proven blade]

where do i put .paks

pak folder?

its for the peace officer mod

[white goblet]

I'm really on some different type shit right now. Y'all don't even know.

[stone bay]

Correct

[proven blade]

ok

[stone bay]

how do i stack up teammates on a door

i pressed mmb what do i press now

[white goblet]

like potato chips

[stone bay]

im being serious

[white goblet]

i haven't played the game in over a month. i've been in colombia. i'll let you know when i get back

[stone bay]

nvm

figured it out

[formal brook]

hey guys whats the best smg?

[silk junco]

mp5/10mm my beloved

[formal brook]

aight

[proven blade]

how do i uh

disable armor\

i want the face mask, armor, and googles gone

[white goblet]

did they fix the No Helmet issue for Ai teammates? last i played, Ai teammates still have their helmets showing even when you select the No Helmet option for them.

[silk junco]

same spot where you change your gun

[proven blade]

thanks

wait no like, how

im in the loadout thing

or customization should i say

[silk junco]

click on the headwear or whatever its called

and select no helmet

[proven blade]

oh i found it

the balacalava is still on

[silk junco]

delete the mod

[proven blade]

what mod

[silk junco]

balaclava is from a mod i thought

or did they put it in game already

[proven blade]

mod maybe

idk

[next olive]

how do you fix people being anxious in commander mode?

[stone bay]

Do gas station less lethal or send them to therapy

[next olive]

how do you send them to therapy? im clicking it but nothings happening

[willow needle]

you can only send to therapy if they're stressed/crisis iirc

[next olive]

could i just run gas station with only beanbag shotguns?

for non lethal

[willow needle]

yes

[next olive]

alright

[prime wing]

gas is the cheesy way to get them back in shape

[stone bay]

anyone know why my games frozen after loading the supermarket modded map?

its been frozen for multiple minutes now

[prime wing]

Do you have an SSD

[stone bay]

yes m.2

[prime wing]

https://www.nexusmods.com/readyornot/mods/972/ is it this one?

[stone bay]

i got it off mod.io

[prime wing]

Dont use modio

[rare temple]

I tried, but I can't disable hud in helmet cam(spectator mode), does anyone know how to do?

[stone bay]

is it bad?

[prime wing]

it is not reliable, manual install works better

[stone bay]

ok

[prime wing]

Which level was it

[stone bay]

i js uninstalled it 😭

lemme find it again

one sec

yeah pretty sure thats the one

[prime wing]

it hasnt been updated in over a year according to nexus

You want to use only levels that have been updated for 1.0

[stone bay]

ok

when was 1.0 released?

[amber dock]

All SW4T Or Not maps should work
Fairfax Residence Remake
Sanctum's Deceit
Central South Office Park
Simple Labyrinth
Mount Threshold Research Center
Florida Man
Lustful Remorse
Hell Comes to the Hill
Heat or Highwater
El Parido
Car-tel banking
ArcticBase
NursingHome_Beta
Saint-Paul Asylum Reloaded
Panic Room Reloaded
Container Yard

That should be all of them 🙂

[stone bay]

thanks!

[amber dock]

atleast so far

[prime wing]

I dont think outdated mods should still be up, but theres no way to control that. Thats up to the platform or moderation. Its something the author controls wether their mods are up or not.

[amber dock]

I really should private my mods, lol

[prime wing]

I mean

[amber dock]

people download them and it crashes their game

[prime wing]

can I even go back to a previous build

[stone bay]

do you know what mods work that arent maps? like gore mods or other QoL?

[amber dock]

Anything past December 13th

Visceral blood is best gore mod currently

atleast imo.

like I'm actually concerned with how the creator made it look that realistic, lol

[stone bay]

Gas is best less lethal method

[queen ermine]

i just found a bug where if you equip a swat with a shield and order to stack up,the shield swat and other swap will infinitely swap

[stone bay]

is there any way to skip the mission summary

[shy tulip]

You have to pull the trick we all used to do during Windows updates

Look away and pretend not to care

[frail quartz]

I loved trying to gaslight my computer's emotions like this

[sullen sundial]

Gas for AI

BB for me

[glossy drum]

chat

is ready or not worth it

[brazen lava]

Right now? No. AI and performance are awful.

[sullen sundial]

Eeeeeehh.

[brazen lava]

SWAT AI are dumb as rocks, while suspect AI are Tier 1 Operators with Cyberpunk 2077 cyberware, thermal vision, and wall hax

Void really released the first two hotfixes back to back and left us with a cliffhanger for the next two smh

[foggy zinc]

anyone got tips for relapse, this mission is dumby annoying with how long it is and the volume of suspects

[native rune]

Not for the full price. I got it ages ago in early access for like 30 dollars or something and I’d say it’s still worth that.

[prime wing]

^

If it was slightly more polished but that means nothing nowadays. It is still early access in some ways or the core game is rough around the edges for 50 dollars. So 40 is still a good price for me.

[austere hare]

I just did Valley of the Dolls and WHAT THE FUCK

I mean I knew what I was getting into... until I hit the basement.

Was not prepared for that.

Devs pulled no punches.

[slender adder]

https://tenor.com/view/richtofen-cod-points-zombies-gif-15617219922460393769

[austere hare]

Glad they didn't but jfc.

[austere hare]

I hate that gif so much.

[silk sail]

not as bad as in swat 4

[austere hare]

...do I even want to know?

[silk sail]

fairfax will be burned into my soul

well, there were some kidnappings of young women in a nearby college, and....well

[terse merlin]

Maps that make you go "...what the fuck..." are fantastic and it's a shame you only get to experience it that way once

[silk sail]

pretty much every game that was amazing in a nutshell

[austere hare]

Yeah I also did the nightclub... holy shit, the phones.

[terse merlin]

Its grim, really really grim

[austere hare]

It's actually gut-punching. You know that's loved ones trying desperately to contact them.

[silk sail]

when you do it a dozen times, it becomes window dressing

[austere hare]

(I did not, in fact, arrest the leader, fuck that guy)

[terse merlin]

Yeah you become dull to it when you play a billion times

So the new and revamped maps were a massive breath of fresh air

[austere hare]

I'm not sure if that's a good thing...

[silk sail]

in a game its good, irl it becomes trauma

[terse merlin]

Yeah

[lucid elk]

Would be much darker if we could hear people on the phone.

[hushed pivot]

Is the hanged man achievement possible? Does anyone here have it?

[stable kernel]

Yes. Must be done in practice or campaign mode, and you cannot equip pull out any long tactical/nvg or fire a weapon that is not stated in the achievement or use a lockpick. Your AI can use whatever, but I would recommend SA58 with AP ammo, and not telling them to do anything other than follow, open and clear, or kick and clear if necessary.

You spawn with your primary in your hands, but swap away immediately and never swap back. You cannot press 5 or 6, and you cannot press v to use NVG. Facewear does not matter otherwise

Also no wedges or pepperspray or lockpick gun I think

[hushed pivot]

Oh so the achievement doesn’t check what the ai teammates use? That doesn’t sound impossible then

[stable kernel]

Correct. I only had them shoot though, no gadgets or the like and it worked for me

[icy wraith]

i don't consider it a 'gore' mod. it looks like the real deal. awesome mod

[hushed pivot]

Gotcha. I’ll definitely give this a try then. I’m on the hospital level in campaign so im almost there

[stable kernel]

Also of note, more than 1 point into tazer does nothing, since you are hard limited to 4 cartridges. Just carry a bunch of flashes and a taser on yourself

[stone bay]

Ides of March sucks

[sterile parcel]

felt

Im trying to S+ all maps would yall recomend using the bots or nah?

cause they keep dying and costing me the S+

[stone bay]

in a real world situation that wouldn't be 5 guys, it would be more 8-10, two shields, and they wouldn't FUCKING BOTTLENECK all the time

[tough spire]

I made a beginner's guide if you want it

[sterile parcel]

I fucken hate the ai on this map it keeps getting me screwe over

[sterile parcel]

oh fr? what would be super helpful

if I get a S+ in multiplayer do i still get the achievement?

[stable kernel]

Acheivments are disabled in multiplayer, even if solo

[sterile parcel]

I want to secret order myself

[stable kernel]

Cosmetics and rank are still unlocked in multiplayer though

[stone bay]

also after taking two shots to the stomach I guarantee they wont keep trying to get up

I gave up on S ranks between the friendly AI being literally brain dead 90% of the time or the enemy AI xraying me through the walls. I love the game but sometimes it’s so broken

[sterile parcel]

im about to man

[sterile parcel]

its the friendly ai thats screwed me over

[stone bay]

I DID SPIDER PERFECTLY NOBODY DIED, EVERYONE WAS ARRESTED AND I GOT FUCKING A

[sterile parcel]

felt that

[stone bay]

as a real world cop all AI make me angry

[tough spire]

#🎨ron-screenshots-and-art message

[sterile parcel]

this is pure art

[tough spire]

Lol thanks. Let me know if it makes sense

I tried to balance "this is how you should approach this for a consistent victory" with not forcing a single handhold through the main room clears.

[stone bay]

my worst issue was getting bottle necked near the musicians room

so I wouldn't be able to retreat or shoot whithout getting shot

[tough spire]

At what point?

[stone bay]

doorway between musician suite and I wanna say 1204

that little hallway

when I stream I call the game work away from work lmao

[shy tulip]

I actually love that hallway

You do get funneled but it also funnels where the AI can engage into your vision really easy

The AI and players also flow through nice I feel when clearing

[tough spire]

You can always keep that part wedged, if you're following my guide

[stone bay]

I like to do things that I would 100% be fired for

such as
killing people with launches

however I was tryna take this serious and I got stuck

[mystic oar]

Whenever I magdump a suspect in the head, their head becomes somewhat transparent. Is that supposed to simulate their flesh getting shot off?

[waxen grove]

Anything new?

[bright valley]

in what sense

[tough spire]

Only that the intensity of this game has brought me to take a nice lil' break with House Flipper 2.

[bright valley]

build a mall

[acoustic surge]

is enemy ai still cranking 90s and one tappin even wirh the hotfix?

[terse merlin]

do people not actually read the hotfix notes or anything?
It specifically addresses the matter and says #3 and #4 are "specifically designed to address performance enhancements, fine-tune balance, and tackle any lingering issues related to suspect and SWAT AI."
https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/1144200/view/3872596847173023719?l=english

[tough spire]

I'm getting my cottagecore lesbian on. I need to counter all the grimdark milsim with cutesy cozy.

[terse merlin]

y'know George, that's just made me realise why so many people of the cutesy cozy variety also like things such as RoN

[cobalt sequoia]

are you actually a fox

[terse merlin]

"Oh my god, I get it.. I get it"

[tough spire]

There are two wolves inside of you...

[bright valley]

[terse merlin]

Sorry about the transporter malfunction

[tough spire]

🤣 Well played

[cobalt sequoia]

pip pop cheerio

[native rune]

One of them says “I’m not putting anything down!”

The other one says “-50 unauthorized use of deadly force”

[bright valley]

i have done nothing but teleport wolves for three days

[terse merlin]

so YOU'RE the reason why everyone had two wolves inside them

GET HIM

[bright valley]

🤷‍♀️

[terse merlin]

I am as much a fox as I am green (I'm not green)

[cobalt sequoia]

so your not a fox

[terse merlin]

no but my profile picture is :)

[tough spire]

Inside you there are two wolves. One's a fox. The other's bad at taxonomy.

[cobalt sequoia]

wow

[formal grotto]

whos hillerman

after i killed everyone i saw him walking around the level and he wouldnt die

[bright valley]

Probably one of the trailer units.

[formal grotto]

whats that?

[stone bay]

Units that spawn when you soft complete a level

[bright valley]

The trailers are supposed to come in after the entry team has secured the area to gather evidence and retrieve restrained people.

[formal grotto]

Ahh okay, freaked me out

[prime wing]

would be funny if its just an impersonator

and hes just kidnapping civilians

[bright valley]

"i'm gonna get you out of here, buddy"

[tough spire]

RoN's first DLC: Hunt for Hillerman
Judge et al go on a manhunt for the trailer guy who's just been stealing all the rescuee's

[crisp ember]

How do i change who's red/blue group? i got a dude that's got crisis mentality asnd idk how to assign oither ppl to take his place

[neat obsidian]

why is noir vs foreboding bass such a masterpeice, i want it to be played at my graduation and funeral

[tough spire]

Hold tab at HQ, click on their team slot, click on a new person

[crisp ember]

team... slot?

oh i got it

[wintry wind]

anyone else wish the scoring screen was skippable? super annoying when youre trying to just rerun a mission and you have to do at least an entire minute of bullshit in between each failed attempt just to try again.

[icy wraith]

just play in practice mode

you can restart real fast in it (u'll still have to wait the 10 secs pre mission)

[brittle sable]

does the keycard on mindjot do anything or is it just something that ends up in the evidence locker

[wintry wind]

i didnt know that existed. does your score still count towards unlocking stuff if you get an S?

[bright valley]

Before 1.0, some of the doors throughout the building couldn't be lockpicked, and it was therefore necessary to have a keycard if you wanted to open them quietly. I don't know what's the deal with them now, it seems like you can lockpick every door and the card doesn't do anything as far as I can tell.

[quick wadi]

random question... do we have a resource (guide, article, video, whatever) explaing the stresss mechanic / ways to make suspects more prone to surrender / comply?
Like how to conduct a mission in the more 'quiet' or 'peaceful' possible way.

[wintry wind]

you shoot people with the beanbag gun until they surrender, and give your teammates pepper ball guns. for some reason killing suspects who are trying to kill them back freaks them out.

then again the entire game is rng so

[bright valley]

I think they're talking about suspect stress, not officer stress.

[wintry wind]

who gives af about them. i personally just cap em

[quick wadi]

Oh, that I know, I don't mean NL / S rank tactics either. I mean... How to take advantage of the mechanic and minimise suspect stress / agression level while still going lethal. Like in a 'RP/realistic' manner where you do it a proportionate answer (I'm not going to shoot you bean bags while your are shooting me with a freaking machine gun) but still try to escalate the situation as little as possible.

I am asking because I got the game recently, I became confident with general lethal and non lethal tactics... But reading the 1.0 patch notes I read this:
"Fine tuning of “stress” system: allow for positive feedback loop when playing using less-lethal weapons. Suspects (on levels where appropriate) will be more likely to hesitate at low stress levels. Stress increases as more firefights and other loud noises occur."

So now I wonder how to take advantage of that mechanics so you go lethal but minimise suspect stress... For example... Avoid flashbangs spamming? Or not? Or not using breaching shotgun? Or maybe breaching shotgun is preferable instead of C2? Or maybe battering ram is the best tool in this regard? Idk... Maybe going for incaps makes a diffence instead of killing for the stress of remaining suspects? idk.

That's what I mean: I read about stress mechanic but can't find info on how really works.

[wintry wind]

i think you are thinking about it far too deeply in my honest opinion

this question would probably be more reasonable if anybody understood the incoherent mess that is the ai rn

[bright valley]

My vague understanding of it is that, stress increases when you're noisy and violent, but reducing morale frequently requires noise and violence, so you're trying to balance this by using the minimum force that gets the job done.

[quick wadi]

🙄 Well a lot of games get thoguht way deeply. 'Min-maxed' in a way... With game's code and data datamined and interpreted. Also excel sheets get made and all kinds of tests are conducted for: armor, for weapons and ammo, etc. So I don't think my questions are that crazy. 😝

[wintry wind]

yeah and none of those are a good thing so

[quick wadi]

I do agree. I don't need to know that i.e. 5.56 takes 4 shots to armored torso and 7.62 takes 2-3. I already knew 7.62 is more lethal than 5.56 and that's enough. Buut the questions I asked I genuinely don't know at all how they work... So having a general idea would be cool.

[wintry wind]

well sadly nobody knows how anything in this game works in relation to the AI

because theyre fucking stupid

sorry man this game is really fucking pissing me off tonight. im over an hour and a half deep on one mission trying to S rank it and im just getting nowhere

[quick wadi]

If you are getting pissed you pass on that for the time being. No need S rank. At least not now / today. Go play other game, or just have some fun in RoN... And next they you probably get S rank due to not being pissed, or having a couple people help you or whatever. No need to auto-impose goals in game that causes us suffering. Games are for fun. 🫶

https://tenor.com/view/the-more-you-know-gif-10358303

[stone bay]

looks there might be a hotfix coming soon

[wintry wind]

oh of course, just give up. why didnt i think of that?

[bright valley]

[quick wadi]

Didn't say that at all mate

[quick wadi]

Change strat then: Different loadout / tools, different route, different use of friendly AI...

[wintry wind]

i have done everything, you dont understand

neon tomb is just the worst fucking level in the game

[prime wing]

Die, do it again, repeat🫵

[wintry wind]

i have been for upwards of two hours. i am so sick of the trial and error, it just feels like its totally luck dependant

[prime wing]

have u tried shift walking

[quick wadi]

is doing it solo a requirement?

[wintry wind]

i have no friends sadly, this may not come as a surprise to you

[wintry wind]

why does it matter when the audio detection range for shouting is like half the whole map

[quick wadi]

I got Neon S yesterday but we were 3-4 people (Random in-game MM)

we did use shields a lot

[wintry wind]

sounds like literal aids trying to get a bunch of blueberries coordinated on this dumpsterfire of a map

man this game is gonna make me fucking break something

and like how ridiculous and embarrassing is that, to say that you tried at something for like two whole hours and you made no progress? you achieved nothing?

[quick wadi]

that's life

[bright valley]

That's what all the people say
You're riding high in April, shot down in May

[wintry wind]

no man, thats inexcusable. im not some loser whos just gonna let that shit go, i wont let the game beat me

[quick wadi]

thing is

if you feel like AI is BS right now and we do know devs know about it and will work to make it less overkill... Why not wait till they tone it down a bit?

why self-impose that amount of torture

[wintry wind]

because where is the reward in sitting around and fucking waiting for devs to make it easier

"oh i was just too shit at the game and couldnt do it so i waited for the devs to make it easier for me"

it is in practice no different than a participation trophy

[prime wing]

to be fair with you, the game is not finished. I wouldnt worry about skill at the moment when the odds are stacked against the player, by design and due to errors that are being fixed. Not gonna tag MMM but he could bring the receipts.

[wintry wind]

who is mmm?

im also sick and fucking tired of paying for games that are supposedly on a 1.0 patch and still "not finished"

[prime wing]

perhaps the best version of the game is 2 years away

[wintry wind]

oh how very fucking exciting

ill just sit around and wait for games to finish after they release until i wither away into dust

and it will still be getting updates and microtransactions and DLC and balance patches. oh how my heart jumps for joy at the prospect of waiting

the sun's burning flames will be dwindling to nothing and ready or not will still be waiting for its AI patch

[stone bay]

What does the “P” button prompt do? It appears for some guns like the SR-16

[bright valley]

Are you sure it's the gun? P is the default bind for toggling secondary sights, like on the 4x scope.

[stone bay]

I pressed it and my viewmodel just put the gun closer to him

[bright valley]

Quadamah's a lucky dude managing to get taken in alive after I gave my whole team B1301s.

Found him playing dead, lol.

[zenith burrow]

what's a good AR for suspects with heavy armor?

[brittle sable]

you change your rifles for missions? personally id just run the same one and use AP, aiming at pelvis to bypass the vests if possible and otherwise just putting more rounds in as much as possible

[zenith burrow]

I like min/maxing xd

I heard that sa58 with JHP can still kill armored

so that seems like a no brainer

sounds like it would absolutely destroy people with lighter armor

but that could be untrue

[brittle sable]

i dont fuck with shooting at armor if i can

[zenith burrow]

I wish there was a way to test armor on suspects

but we don't have any custom maps or commands for that yet I believe

[zenith burrow]

I usually aim for center of mass

for realism

[brittle sable]

on a standard target, yeah, but that isnt always the realism option
theres a few articles on pelvis shot placement on armored targets

[zenith burrow]

hmm

[brittle sable]

its a bigger target than the head, and its usually not covered by armor

also, its really hard to walk with a shot pelvis

[zenith burrow]

dang I gotta go against my muscle memory

[stone bay]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1d89lpFDA9lo_v13iBlnhtuA6DvuUnKfPaeo0d4RBGJ4/edit#gid=1878248973

[zenith burrow]

OH WOW

[stone bay]

But ofc it’ll come down to preference at the end of the day

[zenith burrow]

this is exactly what I'm looking for

[stone bay]

Me and my GA-416

[zenith burrow]

thank you so much

[brittle sable]

did they remove the HK?

[stone bay]

Which HK we talking? There’s multiple HK guns

[brittle sable]

the 416

[stone bay]

It’s in the Rifle

[lost inlet]

they changed the name

[stone bay]

It’s just named “GA-416”

[brittle sable]

ah

[main lodge]

Guys I was going to eat a second banana today but am afraid that I will give myself mild radiation sickness because people keep warning me about eating too much of them. Is it safe to do so?

[young galleon]

yes you can eat a second banana

[brittle sable]

eat the peel instead it has negative radiation

[young galleon]

yeah

[brittle sable]

so then it cancels out

[coral rock]

i thought the eneimes took too many bullets before they go down turns out i wasnt using jhp

[ivory kiln]

same

though i still stick with ap cuz it has a lot more use

[near schooner]

can certain suspects shrug off CS gas?

[ivory kiln]

i completed all the missions

so yay

though i used no crack for ai