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[bold sky]

plus gunfighter makes all the gun usable anw

[stone bay]

But I modded some guns in

[civic zinc]

2 tap with fal = ded

[stone bay]

Rn my sidearm is the Taran Tactical 2011 Pit Viper

[prime wing]

https://tenor.com/view/american-flag-bald-eagle-all-american-wave-gif-16032380

[bold sky]

as if every other rifle doesnt just 2 tap too lol

[brittle swan]

godamnit the last guy killed my swat officer

[civic zinc]

usually it takes 3

[bold sky]

theres no usually they all take 2 if you run ap and even for jhp unless its armor they cant go thru its 2 shot

[vital wasp]

sileeeeenceee DORKKK

[bold sky]

fal gimmick is supposed to be one shot against suspect with no hp modifier

[vital wasp]

SILENCE DORK

[vital wasp]

SILENCE DORK

[bold sky]

this is like when that guy spam ping dev lol

[vital wasp]

SILENCE DORK

[stone bay]

Cool that spreadsheet is good, didn't know mcx was .300

Sa-58 is still hardest hitting in the game but interesting to read

[stone bay]

You can usually see the ammo type/cartridge when you go to the ammo selection screen AP or JHP

[stone bay]

I didn't know that either

[brittle swan]

finally did the sins of the father

(s rank)

[bold sky]

best map in the game

[brittle swan]

solid cap

[stone bay]

Crazy man

[brittle swan]

time to do datacenter

then one more idk which

[stone bay]

My S ranks have stopped since I started exploring more mods and more AI mods

Now I just really have fun

[brittle swan]

fun isnt a thing

[stone bay]

All that for tattoos and an achievement

[brittle swan]

ive got all the tatoos already

but idk which ones i havent completed in singleplayer

which is kinda annoying lmao

[stone bay]

Yeah that’s gonna be a major issue unless you intentionally fail even if it stresses out your team

[brittle swan]

dawg im doing this shit in practice mode lmao

[stone bay]

[brittle swan]

i do not hate myself enough to do it in commander

[stone bay]

But it’s f u n

[mental fable]

Guys, how many mins does the bomb goes off in the campus level ?

[stone bay]

11 or 13. Not sure

Enough time

[nova laurel]

long enough, i never had to worry about it

[lucid elk]

About 11 minutes average.

[brittle swan]

bro where is this last dude

finally jesus christ

[versed trail]

guys is it me but when i insert mag after inspecting ammo it look pretty weird it is on mcx and lvar

[vocal agate]

Q: I missed getting a mousepad, where can I get another one?
A: Unfortunately the Limited Edition Ready Or Not mousepad was
also Limited Print and will never be made again, but fear not, VOID
Interactive has plans to set up a merchandise store that may
include mousepads similar to (but not the same as) the limited and
rare supporter edition mousepad.

where mouse pads

[lofty gorge]

Ok the whole difficulty of nightclub mission is to not kill the baddest boi because he looks kinda like the rest of them in lights and overal darkness

[vocal agate]

what club now

🤨 📸

[lofty gorge]

Not intentionally but kinda lol'd

Mobile keyboards are too sensitive didnt spot double g anyway back to this mission

[brittle swan]

godamniiit which missions am i missing the S on

[stone bay]

Imagine if it was just an easy mission

[brittle swan]

watch it be fucken gas station

[visual wave]

chat i finally bought RON

[stone bay]

[lofty gorge]

Reality: postal warehouses

[stone bay]

[prime wing]

I might catch Fs and D ranks on these maps 😥 👎 but you 😏 wont ever catch me 🫴 🏃‍♂️ taking👿 🫵 Ls

[brittle swan]

no ive done postal alot

i vividly remember finally getting s on it

[lofty gorge]

On S?

[brittle swan]

yes

[brittle swan]

finally did that fuckin mission

[lofty gorge]

Daaamn. Respect

[brittle swan]

okay so streamer was one of them

now im at 17/18

[stone bay]

lmao defo an easy one

Watch it be another easy one

[brittle swan]

which one we thinking boys

[stone bay]

Rust Belt

[brittle swan]

it might be ends of the earth

[mental ibex]

is that one operation neptune spear map updated for 1.0 yet

[brittle swan]

i did rust belt yesterday

i remember one suspect dying when i did ends, so maybe its that and i didnt do it again

[stone bay]

What's the map you know you rarely play

Could be that

[brittle swan]

ive done all the hard ones

[brittle swan]

damnit

ends of the earth wasnt it

[stone bay]

A Lethal Obsession

Ides of March, The Spider

[brittle swan]

ive def done brisa and gerard

ill try spider

and afterwards brisa just to be sure

[winter shadow]

I love RoN 😄

I love suspect shoot first before rotate to enemy 🙂

[brittle swan]

wasnt spider

time for brisa

[plain kraken]

Brisa man is so hardcore with just a handgun and no grenades

I can’t complete it at the moment. Using patrol officer mod

[deep rain]

I just got "unauthorized use of force" with -0 points

Hu?.... No mods

[brittle swan]

just accept it

[upbeat niche]

sins of the father is so annoying omg

[brittle swan]

that moment when you try to defuse but you accidnetally kick

ok it wasnt brisa

[plain kraken]

Can’t be worse than AI teammate opening the door when I’m disarming

[dense quest]

I mean don't patrol officers carry rifles anyway? 🤓

[brittle swan]

aight i got a

1/18 chance of gettiung this right

[dreamy garden]

Did you S rank any of them in multiplayer

[brittle swan]

yes thats the issue

[dreamy garden]

I don't think they count towards steam achievements

[brittle swan]

ive s ranked all maps in some form

but some have been in mp which dont count

so now i need to figure out which of the 18 i s ranked in mp so i can do it in sp again

[plain kraken]

Just sticking to pistol or else I’m gonna have dumb AI teammates who are meant to only use pistols trying to use primary that’s empty

I’m using pistol as primary mod so such scenario doesn’t happen at all

[amber hearth]

sa58 is just better slug

[lofty gorge]

Btw is there someone here who knows the lore?

[amber hearth]

me

i am from readyornotarica i am the lore

[bold sky]

wise of that man to avoid asking the lore after that

[steady escarp]

What is santa muerte statue?
in evidence room

[amber hearth]

its a self explanatary isnt it

popular cult thing among cartels

[bold sky]

i would rather have an ai google an answer over that lol

[amber hearth]

are you asking why is it in the evidence room

[steady escarp]

yes

[pliant sage]

Literally one of GR Wildlands's schtick. That game did raise a point on Santa Muerte lol.

[steady escarp]

i remembered santa negra from gta 5 rp

but i didnt know why its in evidence room

[vagrant scaffold]

how do i fully end a mission
instead of voting it to end it with soft

[amber hearth]

its a bug

not the program bug the spying thing

when you gaze the cartel the cartel gaze you back

[steady escarp]

cartel wants to spy police?

[amber hearth]

obviously

[steady escarp]

okok

thanks

[amber hearth]

ik u put a little mic inside a religious statue

[crude prism]

Secure all weapons, secure/report all civilians + suspects.
Report the soft-objectives as well.

The game will auto-end when you have nothing left to do

[amber hearth]

and like just put them in some random crime spot police will grab them and bring that to their place

like how you track ants

[brittle swan]

No thats something else

[amber hearth]

LSPD says "they all look the same"

[brittle swan]

Developer confirmed that thing is part of some organisation trying to control everything

[amber hearth]

the roman catholic church?

[steady escarp]

santa muerte is mexican death religion/cult

[amber hearth]

dope

can i join(im not from mexico tho)

[eager merlin]

any 1.0 lore videos out yet?

[stone bay]

Only the new police station so far from what I saw

[eager merlin]

damn

[stone bay]

Gonna be real they could barely get the game to play well after all this time, lore is the least of my worries unfortunately

No I haven't how do they hold up?

[brittle swan]

mlo

[stone bay]

https://www.nexusmods.com/readyornot/mods/3234 I made a mistake discovering this mod. Holy fuck you can get an S rank even going full lethal. I just double tapped a lot of suspects and arrested the ones that surrendered and got an S

Now what idk is if you get unlocks with THAT mod because it changes up the scoring system, it’s nice seeing an S going full lethal

[normal trout]

Pretty sure there’s a mod where you press a key and it just ends the mission and gives you an s

[brittle swan]

you probably get them all

aight which one we thinking i havent done yet

[stone bay]

Only one way to find out. I haven’t S’d Relapse (Hospital) and Hide n Seek (Port) yet because I’ve just been testing out a lot of mods. If I get an S AND the tattoos for those maps, then I’ll let ya’ll know

[brittle swan]

ive done both of those

that i know

[stone bay]

Run through the entire missions

Mission 1 to Mission 18

[crude prism]

This is the REAL Ready Or Not gameplay we're all looking for

[brittle swan]

BRUH

IT WAS RIDGELINE

wtf

ah well, thats all of them

finally free of my non lethal curse

[stuck wing]

now kill your swat members and become the suspect for judge v2

[brittle swan]

i can finally have fun again :)

[dim sail]

Has anyone completed greased palms? I have tried all weapons, all gadgets and still can't complete it. It seems impossible. Any tips

[amber hearth]

My little organization

[brittle swan]

use ur bots and go slow

[dim sail]

I have done that. I ask my bots to clear the stupidly massive rooms and we start to get shot in the back

[brittle swan]

clear ur back first

[dim sail]

How can I clear my back when there's parcel shelves in the way?

[stone bay]

enter from the side if you’re clearing that main area

The one with the parking lot

The furthermost entry there starts from the back of the main area

[dim sail]

What weapon/gadget should I use

[brittle swan]

theyre all kinda the same lmao

[dim sail]

So a shotgun is the same as a Mp5? A riot shield is the same as a launcher?

[brittle swan]

in each category theyre pretty much the same

id recommend a rifle

give 2 of ur ai shields

[dim sail]

At the moment.. I just seeing if my ai teammates can complete it.

[brittle swan]

you gotta help em a bit lmao

[hoary grail]

Jesus Christ Greased Palms is hard

[stone bay]

Why the fuck do some doors on Relapse not register as a threshold

The double door that leads to the middle of the sky bridge isn’t considered a door where my team can stack up

[dim sail]

You're telling me. I looked at tutorials online and everyone has said that the mission is ridiculously hard.

There's way too many enemies and they are way too accurate. Why is it that the gang members on Greased Palms are more accurate than the Army veterans on Brisa cove?

[mighty elbow]

but judas isn't a saint in the church and santa muerte isn't a saint as well is it a cultural thing only?

[full shore]

It's possible that the gang members had more training on precision shooting. Can only guess

[crude prism]

Get a screenshot/vid of the issue spot and report it.

[stone bay]

Yeah gathering it rn

[mighty elbow]

oooooooooh thats cool man

[stone bay]

There’s 2 doors that’s not registering as a threshold

[mighty elbow]

juditas?

ok i thought you were catholic for a sec with the faith is the key phrase in your profile sry lol

ooooooooh cool so is my dad and my moms catholic

hru ddoing?

nice

no but i have heard of it

[shadow ether]

After trying the game with Sniper or Not I am the happiest operator ever, G3 rocks, please full scale G3 in vanilla

[mighty elbow]

whats snipers or not isn't the g3 a batle rifle not a sniper?

[shadow ether]

Also, would it be unreasonable for SWAT to request to cut power to the building they are about to clear?

[earnest python]

Basically its a mod that adds a few weapons to the game

[shadow ether]

It's a mod that adds weapons to the game, and G3 is not a sniper rifle but I'm using it as a marksman of sorts

[earnest python]

nah it's completely reasonable

[mighty elbow]

like the gunfighter mod

[earnest python]

yeah but gunfighter adds a whole bunch of other changes

[shadow ether]

Makes me wonder how different the levels would play out if Judge could ask to cut power to them first

[mighty elbow]

also ssrb your profile pic is ADORABLE i love that lil fox

[shadow ether]

Thank you

[earnest python]

the NVGs would be a whole lot more useful

[mighty elbow]

we should have judge dredd voice lines or a bolt pistol or bolter in game

[earnest wolf]

sooo the graphics settings sliders... are they meant to be like that?

[shadow ether]

Yeah I feel like NVGs are a bit underused compared to how cool they could be

[dusty blaze]

I want RON on console

Xbox RON who agrees

[shadow ether]

How would you controls

[brittle swan]

Cause you need to sacrifice ur gasmask for em

[brittle swan]

Na

[dusty blaze]

That’s the issue,

[earnest wolf]

I assume they have plans for consoles based on using mod.io

[dusty blaze]

I can use wasd

I have a keyboard extension

[shadow ether]

Not just that, but a lot of levels keep the lights on even at night

[full shore]

There's almost no reason to use NODs. Currently it doesn't do anything but change the color of your game.

[dusty blaze]

I feel like it should be on console but you need a keyboard and mouse to play

[shadow ether]

I feel like it would be beneficial at night because suspects can't see shit and entry team does

[crude prism]

They would just bring back the radial wheels we used to have for inventory/attachment interaction

[brittle swan]

Thats stupid

[dusty blaze]

Ik but

My laptop is broken so I have a Xbox

[earnest wolf]

It would be more cumbersome than hot keys, but you can have action menus, similar to the MMB order menu on PC but mapped to controller buttons

[shadow ether]

Any examples of that not involving the hospital?

Not in every case, no, but when there's barricaded suspects who KNOW police is on scene, I feel like it's reasonable to cut power for the raid.

[mighty elbow]

did you make it yourself or did you find it online and is from a video game or movie?

[shadow ether]

Not only for the "suspects can't see shit" factor but to deny them things like surveillance and electronic locks.

They're either safe anyway, knowing that police is coming, or they're fucked taken as hostages, power or no power

I feel like at the point of sending the entry team de-escalation already didn't work

[earnest python]

When you're sending in the SWAT team i think you're past the point of de-escalation lol

[shadow ether]

And cutting power does less to their mental state than a kick to the door.

Or C2.

[upbeat niche]

I finished sins of the father but i didnt unlock a new map

[shadow ether]

Wouldn't you be more shocked from a loud noise in the dark?

[earnest python]

I think hearing your buddy in the next room getting gunned down would be more of a shock than the power going out

[prime wing]

this is what ive been saying

[upbeat niche]

Can you not unlock new maps if you have mods on

[shadow ether]

Also this
If you hear gunshots I feel like power going out is less convincing than that

[queen hound]

placebo effect much? Because I feel like the gpnvgs make spotting suspects easier on twisted nerve and port hokan

[shadow ether]

Which is why you don't cut the power willy-nilly, but sometimes it's reasonable.

[prime wing]

Me walking into the hospital as a local swat team leader with no resources, backup or snipers, walking into a deathtrap filled with civilians right after I cut off the power (Its only 5 guys who get anxious for having to shoot once):

[queen hound]

honestly on the cult map why can't we just call down a HIMARS missile on that compound

[prime wing]

LSPD is not CAG

[shadow ether]

To deny surveillance and visibility to barricaded suspects, for example?

[prime wing]

far from it

[queen hound]

but I mean all the guys on the map are hostiles

[prime wing]

"Bro it was so cool, you had to be there your honor, I went John Wick mode with nvgs"

[queen hound]

Me and my team playing with the no mercy for terrorists mod refusing to accept the suspects' surrenders

[shadow ether]

I'd rather escalate things a little before coming in, than have to pay for suspect's mental comfort by getting lit up from above because they can see well

[prime wing]

Your honor, to be fair, he went John Wick mode

[earnest python]

I can post articles of swat teams around the country cutting power to buildings

[prime wing]

https://tenor.com/view/saul-goodman-better-call-saul-saul-goodman3d-meme-breaking-bad-gif-24027228

[queen hound]

tbf I really don't care why the LSPD are so gentle with suspects in vanilla

[earnest python]

it is indeed a thing that they do

[queen hound]

If they are armed then mozambique drill and move on

[shadow ether]

Their entire job is a sequence of extremely specific purposes

[queen hound]

@prime wing so you're telling me that I should not be running around RoN maps with AP assault rifles wearing N`vGs and multicam and playing rainbow 6 siege with the suspects

[prime wing]

rare quantum typing

[shadow ether]

And I feel like for some cases, one notable example being the night club, cutting the power may increase the civvies chance to survive, if only because it's easier to play dead and hide under desks in the dark.

[full shore]

Idk I feel like the flashlight works better in most cases. The NODs don't really work that great in game either. The IR doesn't illuminate anything and there are some very dark spaces where you need to pair a flashlight with NODs in order to see (which doesn't make sense)

[prime wing]

flashlight sucks

[queen hound]

tbf fair still I like having the ability to throw on NODs and use a canted hk416 with a IR laser

[full shore]

It does. And so do the nods lol

I like the flashlight tho for funsies

[shadow ether]

But night club with no power wouldn't be a cool-looking level.

[full shore]

Needs more candela

[queen hound]

It's not cool looking now tbf

Too many bodies

[shadow ether]

I mean, the neons mate, wow lighting

[tough spire]

You might need to adjust your gamma settings

[shadow ether]

It's obviously creepy as fuck and the phones are nightmare fuel.

[queen hound]

I'd say something but idk if you wont think im. a psycho

I love night club for a different reason..

the vests make for nice collats

you know the ones the suspects wear

[crude prism]

Most sane ron player

[queen hound]

I got a 2 for 1 once

[shadow ether]

It's the internet, who cares if I'll think anything

[full shore]

Perhaps. Too bad the game doesn't have settings bc the video settings for everything else besides RON is fine...

[queen hound]

For real though the booby traps and s-vests can sometimes be very advantageous

[shadow ether]

Trick shot ayyy

I hope both of them were suspects?

[queen hound]

ie purposefully using c2 on doors with grenades to blow up whatever is behind end

[queen hound]

Yea

[tough spire]

Your monitor gamma probably. You shouldn't need flashlight with Nvg, that's not the game's fault

I love when the enemy takes hostage, easy 2 for 1.... Oh both were suspects?

[shadow ether]

Btw correct me if I'm wrong but the "very sane very realistic tactical simulators" should have options for shits and giggles which are a great example of why you don't

It's fun to try, it's funny to fail, and it's both good for decompressing and as a show of why not

[queen hound]

Civs when they see judge pulling up with a FN FAL and AP rounds...

https://tenor.com/view/salute-hunger-games-jennifer-lawrence-gif-21423752

[tough spire]

They're just letting the bullet slow down and begin to tumble in their bodies so that the guy behind them takes the real damage

[shadow ether]

Sniper or not has M249 for you to use
Clearly not a good choice for almost every map
But it's so fucking fun to bring it and fail at being a police person.

[queen hound]

tbf for hostages I just throw/shoot a sting bomb at them

sure it hurts like a motherfucker and might cause some broken bones

beats being a human shield tho ]

[earnest python]

Fallujah simulator

[queen hound]

One thing I dont get about irl swat and RoN team is why can't they use artilerry/small caliber mortars

When you're certain there are no civs around

drop a hellfire missile on the fuckers

[tough spire]

Imagine the paperwork alone

[earnest python]

because we don't live in Iraq

[queen hound]

Paperwork beats wounding officers doesnt it

[prime wing]

We will be paying for the repairs of those buildings

[earnest python]

closest we got to that was the "FBI" crashing into the compound with armored vehicles at Waco

[shadow ether]

Because someone has to pay for repairs and the suspects can't afford it

[tough spire]

Destroying civilian property, making the taxpayers pay for whatever damages we do, collateral damages, etc....

[queen hound]

The scenario im thinking of is

You have a compound full of cartel guys/gangoons

[earnest python]

oh nvm they straight up had tanks at waco

[queen hound]

in the boonies

[prime wing]

the police are not executioners

nor judges

[queen hound]

You can have a hellfire with knives instead of explosives for minimal collateral damage

[tough spire]

You should look up how much each one of those costs

[shrewd oriole]

Dubious

[shadow ether]

Provided you are allowed to missile their shit

1. How do you know they're all dead
2. How do you know there's only gangoons at the time
3. You're gonna pay for repairs
4. You just lost the detectives their leads including material ones

[queen hound]

Yea you guys are prolly right

Still can we drop AGMs on the cartels? please pretty pls

[earnest python]

Gangoons is a cyberpunk 2077 term, right

[queen hound]

ye

[earnest python]

lol

[tough spire]

Easy, choomba.

[shrewd oriole]

I like to attach kitchen knifes to my missiles

[earnest python]

tbf we should call in MaxTac on these cyberpsycho suspects

[queen hound]

Isn't Judge basically MaxTac

[shadow ether]

But if they got more than cooking drugs in there, by all means, make it a matter of national security and shell them

[queen hound]

with all the fucking bullets he has lodged in his body

[tough spire]

RoN but I can netrun and upload Contagion and Blind to the entire room before I breach.

[mighty elbow]

i like this plan

[queen hound]

Tbf RoN in a Cyberpunk setting could be a cool game

MaxTac simulator

[earnest python]

Ron but I upload "self-delete" to all the goons before I go in

[queen hound]

tbf I sometimes larp RoN in Cyberpunk

[tough spire]

I would loooooooove a cyberpunk SWAT sim. Like having to scan out the network infrastructure of the building to use it to my advantage

[shrewd oriole]

Goons be gooning

[queen hound]

it's kinda fun

[queen hound]

You mean the clinton quickhack?

[shadow ether]

If they're a matter of national security then you don't send the local PD on them, and probably not even the local branch of gentlefeds

[tough spire]

Yeah the cult compound 1,000% would not be handled by SWAT IRL.

[queen hound]

I mean judge gets sent to fight rogue secret service agents

[shrewd oriole]

Send in the intercontinental ballistic missles

[shadow ether]

At best their job would be to exfil the wounded officer

[crude prism]

NonLethal tomahawk missile

[earnest python]

No because the goons would kill themselves

[prime wing]

non lethal nuke

[crude prism]

Cluster bomb with beanbag munitions

[shrewd oriole]

ATGM loaded with flashbang

[queen hound]

FISA here stay where you are

[shadow ether]

Also wouldn't the cartel tunnels be handled by FISA?

[prime wing]

fisa dont give a fuck

[earnest python]

that's more of a Border Patrol deal I reckon

[queen hound]

FISA are slimy as fuck

[shadow ether]

I feel like cartel smuggling operation should be on their list to give a fuck

[queen hound]

Yea trust me bro that shipment of naked women is definetely not sus at all

[earnest python]

speaking of FISA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_PGVO70FyeI

[prime wing]

homeland security handles borders

[shrewd oriole]

Nuclear bombing of Port hoken will go in history as one of the swat operations of all time

[queen hound]

I remember the days of pre-1.0 when I used to run an all flashbang grenade launcher AI team

[shadow ether]

Unless these places get raided specifically because our chief of police is not in on the entire fed stuff and keeps sending D platoon to places FISA wouldn't because it's their hustle

[tough spire]

The most realistic thing about RoN is how incompetent their management is.

[queen hound]

Tbf what if D platoon are actually undercover glowies

fightning FISA

[prime wing]

lspd basically everyone elses little puppet

[shadow ether]

Imagine running a joint op with the cartel and some PD nuckfuts show up and shut it down

[queen hound]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Untouchables_(law_enforcement) I legit think this is D platoon

[shrewd oriole]

Send in the terminator suspects.

[queen hound]

Imagine being a corrupt federal goverment and getting detained by judge

[tough spire]

The redundancy police are coming for you next

[shadow ether]

I mean what are they gonna do, defund the precinct?

[shrewd oriole]

We already own an entire stockpile of equipment

[shadow ether]

||actually is it me or a precinct raid level where your squad starts in the armory would be lit||

[queen hound]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Untouchables_(law_enforcement) D-platoon IRL D platoon IRL

[shrewd oriole]

It'd suck

You capping

[shadow ether]

How so

[shrewd oriole]

Seems like a bad level

[queen hound]

If you buy the background lore of a corrupt federal agency running sus shit then having the d platoon being undercover glowies fightning said agency makes a lot of sense

[tough spire]

Only if the damages were realistic and lasted in the lobby until it was cleaned up a few missions past

[shrewd oriole]

But a raid on a small house, balling.

[queen hound]

tbf we should have a FISA building raid

D platoon gets cleared to "visit" FISA local headquarters

[shadow ether]

I wouldn't even entertain how that would be allowed because it wouldn't but Judge gets sent there anyway

[queen hound]

rival federal agency works with D platoon

Kind of like how GTA V had the FIB and IAA fight each other

[shadow ether]

No warrant, just hit'em now deal with it later

[queen hound]

What if judge is an undercover asset

and being LSPD is just a cover

when in reality he is working for the DoJ or someshit breaking up FISA

[shadow ether]

Judge doesn't pick his deployments, maybe chief of police is on their payroll and D platoon is his best tools for the job

"Okay we got this huge kiddy diddlers ring that goes all the way to the top, I send D platoon there to mop it up and this is eventually gonna cost me my job and everyone's lives but we'll cross that bridge when we get there"

[upbeat niche]

[earnest python]

SWAT team carrying out rogue hits off the clock sounds neat

[shadow ether]

Imagine D platoon being tricked into striking targets chief knows are out of police matters

[crude prism]

Judge shows up in an after credits cutscene and kills the FISA guy that made him re-lockup the women on Port

A-la bad MW3(2) after credits scene

[shadow ether]

For reals though, Judge ain't here to do the thinking
But damn Judge is here to do the doing

Does it?

I know it

Doesn't sound any similar to me

[upbeat niche]

Everytime I use C2 I have to take my headphones of because it's so dang loud, it actually hurts

[shadow ether]

Actually

Do you think Judge is not allowed an M14 off the plinth because everyone knows he'll be unstoppable with it

[crude prism]

Touching the encased M14 will imbue Judge with the knowledge of those that came before, turning him into the ultimate law enfor... and he's solved crime already

[shadow ether]

Exactly!

Judge has general premonition already, if he gets the power of the officers of legend, all crime is done

[tough spire]

You'd have to shortstock that thing somethin' fierce

[stone bay]

I have returned with the good news that the S rank you get while going full lethal does count on unlocks #🎨ron-screenshots-and-art message

[left summit]

When do my agents finish their therapy? Bc it has been 2 missions and almost all my team is in crisis and idk what to do

[dense quest]

One way to do your own therapy is to go to gas station and do it less than lethal

Improves their morale

[stone bay]

Reported the bug @crude prism #1199437647928643726 message

[sharp fable]

last alive on datacentre just wallbanged me and killed me

[livid notch]

works even better if you have Moral Officer in entry-team

[shadow ether]

Now I can't not imagine this as Judge and the team treating another gas station robbery with 2 confirmed dead as a picnic with the bois

[livid notch]

it is what it is apprach make wonders

[shadow ether]

— Where we going today?
— The gas station!
— (the entire team) YAAAY!

[tough spire]

They should make the morale officer be crackin' jokes the whole time.

[sharp fable]

a tactical clown

[livid notch]

this would be SBAGS i guess

[stone bay]

Negotiator buff when

So he can synergize with Moral Officer

[livid notch]

Intimidator should also work quite nice

[stone bay]

I stack Intimidators. So I'd have 2 of them with an Armorer (might remove for now cause it's not fucking working as intended) and a Pacifier

[livid notch]

Armorer does not stack as far as I know - imo Nutritionist is better for survivability improvement

[crude prism]

Actual helpful bug reports????? WILD!

(good job, I have a feeling the hotfixes broke those, as I don't remember having any trouble on Relapse before)

[stone bay]

Naw you don't stack Armorer. It was meant for more survivability since my team rocks Ceramic and Armorer buffs Ceramic only

[stone bay]

Actually that bug has been existing even before the 2nd hotfix. I only decided to report it now cause it finally started to bother me getting attacked on that staircase while I can't stack my team up on that staircase door to breach it

[devout mortar]

hey, does anyone know how to turn off the intern game recording (not talking about nvidia but your game is recording each game everytime you play) ?

[stone bay]

you have to remove the permissions manually in the game files

[devout mortar]

can you guide me if possible ? is there any guide for it ?

[stone bay]

https://youtu.be/T0L9mwrQF7o?si=CNfk4FHmcIH5BPTy 2:54

[devout mortar]

thank you so much

[tough spire]

Do you know if Breacher stacks?

[stone bay]

It does yeah https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3118547658

2 Intimidators is probably your best comp for non lethal runs. That 100% damage on suspect and civilian morale is super nice

[tough spire]

2-Breach 2-Intim sounds perfect for a lot of maps

Dang I wonder how cracked our team can be with 4 Vets

[stone bay]

Get a pacifier if that's your non lethal comp

[stone bay]

Stacking more than twice has diminishing returns I think the author mentioned

[tough spire]

I pretty much only do Ironman so I run do lethal most of the time. Pacifier would be nice on my LTL save for sure

I think my LTL run would do 2 Paci, 2 Intim

[earnest wolf]

These crazy women and their bullet proof greenhouses are kicking my ass 😦

[bright valley]

you're getting beat by a girl haw haw

[stone bay]

If it's Ironman then maybe 2 veterans at most if you want. Then 1 SBAGS unless you don't care about the stress levels. Maybe a Negotiator if ever, or you know just get a Nutritionist. I'd normally recommend having an Armorer on any comp but rn Armorer is fucking broken. Like it doesn't work

[earnest wolf]

lol I am. Beat bad.

[crude prism]

4x SBAGS, just solo everyone and leave the AI in spawn to whine

[tough spire]

Right now I'm dreaming of an all-Vet, all-FAL heavy steel team.

I just hate grinding out the unlocks. It might be the only thing I'd try to mod out.

[stone bay]

me and this mod https://www.nexusmods.com/readyornot/mods/3278 be like

[crude prism]

Steel is pretty risky to but on the bots imo

Because they usually rock close together in pairs/while stacking, you can get a lot of extra damage stacked on with bullet splash if someone gets hit

[delicate snow]

Just went outside and foraged in the woods and found another RON hotfix. Added Swahili language and changed a couple door textures.

[tough spire]

#🎨ron-screenshots-and-art message Helps if you stack them like this.

[loud patio]

isn’t the 3d printers in kawayu beach a reference to the Prusa printers they look really similar

[stone bay]

Is that a 2 shield comp

[tough spire]

Absolutely. Best way to run shield.

[crude prism]

2x shield 2x mirror, can have both teams independent for high efficiency

[stone bay]

I have a love-hate relationship with shields

[bright valley]

They look immensely afraid of the door lol

[tough spire]

Same NGL.

[native rune]

Two shields is better than one because the first shield guy always fuckin hooks into the nearest corner and does nothing for the rest of the clear

[tough spire]

You always want 2 shields so each direction of clearing is being led by one, yeah.

[stone bay]

One side of it is it reduces their stress + saves them from a lot of bullshit. THe other side is for some reason, idk if this is just me, the shields make them more incompetent than just having them with normal guns

[tough spire]

Running with only a pistol makes them less competent? Gasp

[stone bay]

[tough spire]

Honestly I wish they'd just put away the pistol and let the Bravo position do the shooting about half of the time

[crude prism]

Whoever is first in will be catching flak most of the time. If you're not going to lead them in with a shield, then letting the first guy soak bullets is way better than the entryman with no shield getting lit up every room

[stone bay]

Don't forget that sometimes when they enter, one of them will wander off and start his own adventure while his team is getting slaughtered

[bright valley]

Giving the shield bearer a JHP-loaded pistol is fun when you're trying to make at least a few arrests. That "plunk plunk plunk" sound of rounds hitting ceramic.

[stone bay]

AP is better if you want arrests

JHP bleeds them and it might kill them

[crude prism]

Just give them 5.7x28 JHP, still has 0% bleed chance and still doesn't get the good limb multiplier for JHP

Void is trolling

[stone bay]

How even

[crude prism]

7.62x39 JHP still has 0% bleed chance btw 💀

[stone bay]

[native rune]

Extensively tested

[crude prism]

By me maybe

[bright valley]

Eh, it kinda makes sense at least in regards to how they're trying to balance all the hard-hitting armor piercing stuff versus everything else.

[stone bay]

Do the 7.62 guns have a chance to dismember?

[nova gust]

are there any mods that has the swat team just go off on their own and finish the mission?

[stone bay]

or at least annihilate a body part

[nova gust]

essentially a team of john wicks

[crude prism]

Unless it changed in the hotfixes, nothing has a chance to dismember except for 12g buck and 12g slugs.

12g buck has "25" dismember per pellet
12g slug has "1" dismember per shot

I want to say it's % based, but I'm not fully sure

[stone bay]

Die in Practice Mode then watch them do their thing

[bright valley]

like 75% chance the SWAT just freezes up and doesn't clear anything in my experience

[stone bay]

My only fear is going up against armored suspects. It's why I almost always never go buckshot. Only Slugs

[nova gust]

essentiallythis

especially when it comes to double doors

[stone bay]

Oh yeah it sucks it happens a lot

[nova gust]

and when they throw grenades, especially gas, they just land at their feet = no actual utility

[crude prism]

Buckshot it still op as fuck. Even aiming at the chest you'll probably blow off an arm or head on the first shot

[stone bay]

Say less. I want my dismemberments

[bright valley]

Buckshot vs armored suspects is alright when you consider how many of the suspects you're shooting have their hands in front of their chest in order to aim their gun.

[stone bay]

Been missing seeing dismemberments ever since I switched to Slugs

[crude prism]

Funny enough I saw a guy get trolled by this on Reddit. As of 1.0 hands have the same multiplier for damage as feet. Which is 10%

Suspect ate two full hits, 16 pellets to his hands. Because with the changes to pen, flesh is harder to pen and buck won't go through the hands

[nova gust]

i need my team throw their grenades deeper into the room

[bright valley]

Yeah, that was a freak incident tbf

[stone bay]

Wish we could plan breaches that actually affect the SWAT AI from the tablet

Gives me a reason to use it more

[bright valley]

Though honestly, with buckshot I find myself targeting a lot of shoulders and upper thighs in practice. Kind of depends on what I'm looking at. Buckshot has been very viable for lethal approaches though ever since ADAM.

[craggy yew]

Me watching my ai shoot a gas grenade into a room only to watch it bouce all the way back to the doorway

[stone bay]

Does it fall off in long hallways like Ides of March?

[nova gust]

fr fr, i need the gas in the room to clear it not the doorway

[stone bay]

I mean I rocked Beanbag shotty a lot so I defo know the range a shotgun can get. But I was wondering how well buckshot will do even in range

[bright valley]

The spread of buckshot is pretty tight, not like most video game shotguns.

[stone bay]

Bet

[bright valley]

I could be wrong, but I also think shotguns versus armor tend to stun targets, no?

[noble laurel]

What even is this game, a guard was shooting at me so I shot him and he threw away his gun. Another guard enters the room so I turn around and the guard stands back up and pulls out a pistol, I shoot him again and yell so he drops it. I turn around again AND HE PULLS OUT ANOTHER FUCKING PISTOL.

[stone bay]

Could never tell cause they always die

[bright valley]

bahaha, ain't that the truth

[tough spire]

This is America after all

[stone bay]

Normal RoN encounter

[tough spire]

Alright swapping my .300blk out for shotguns on my iron man run. Y'all convinced me

[crude prism]

Just be careful about 'accidenting' those arrest targets

[bright valley]

Just don't miss.

[tough spire]

#🎨ron-screenshots-and-art message F this door and everyone behind it.

[stone bay]

I'd just stick to the .300 gun and let your AI handle the shotgun

[tough spire]

Why do they need to "handle" it

[stone bay]

Just pray you don't get a suspect who takes someone hostage and your team blows off the hostage's head

[bright valley]

That's their Achilles' heel IMO, even the fast-firing shotties don't give you a lot of room to miss your opening shot.

[tough spire]

Haha first kill of the round was Gerard. He very dead.

[crude prism]

Ah yes, give the AI the instant-teamkiller-stick-9000

[stone bay]

Collaterals

[bright valley]

Oh yeah! That too. Fucking human shields making me swap to my sidearm so I don't take off the wrong head.

[crude prism]

Slugs > Buck

[tough spire]

Ngl I don't play for score on Ironman. That's a fool's errand.

[stone bay]

Yih but once you get good with shotties, you just breeze through enemies

Until you get wallbanged accurately ofc

[bright valley]

Hip-fire shotty with a laser pointer is fun.

[nova gust]

need 12x scope w/ slugs on shotguns

[stone bay]

Naaah give one of your AI teammates the shotty with a buckshot. They'll do some real damage alright

[tough spire]

The sound of the team going in with shotguns blazing is satisfying.

[stone bay]

I can't hit my shots for shit with canted aiming + laser on shotguns. Idk if something's misaligned or I'm just shit. But I barely miss on ADS

[bright valley]

God, this is the most I've uttered "shotgun" and its variations in a conversation in a long while. When ADAM dropped and made them viable, I was like, always shotgun lady in co-op, I think this discussion is bringing back all of that past enthusiasm lol.

[upbeat niche]

When you launch in safe mode, is it dx11 or dx12?

[tough spire]

I'll keep saying it: Shotgun is love.

Or was it joy? I don't remember my own bits anymore.

[nova gust]

shotgun is love, shotgun is life

[bright valley]

y'all dumb motherfuckers want a key change

[upbeat niche]

^

[nova gust]

id like to put a grenade launcher under my rifle ngl

[stone bay]

I actually thought shotties were bad during ADAM. But that was only cause I was still new that time

[nova gust]

or have gas mask + nvgs, or flashlight + laser sight

[tough spire]

Not sure but you should always be running 12

[bright valley]

ADAM was the update that made buckshot do devastating limb damage. Slugs were still garbage, but you just didn't run slugs.

[nova gust]

as an official game mechanic

[upbeat niche]

I always run dx12 but I want to play without mods sometimes

[stone bay]

Whatever it is, it defo makes my FPS plummet. I have old hardware so DX11 is smoother for me

[bright valley]

Who said anything about aiming? laser hipfire lol.

[stone bay]

[tough spire]

Wait do y'all not use the choke?

[stone bay]

I always do

[tough spire]

Yeah I figured, you said you actually aim 😂

[stone bay]

Idk what the brake offers

[tough spire]

The brake keeps the spread wider for reduced recoil basically

[crude prism]

choke is unnecessary, spread was significantly reduced with Adam and didn't change with 1.0

With the choke you're pretty much firing slugs indoors, too accurate

[noble laurel]

wtf, I turned on "Bounce Light" and my fps went up

[stone bay]

Cool, might switch to that

[bright valley]

Unless I'm taking things very seriously I often omit some attachments entirely. Style, folks.

[noble laurel]

nvm, it keeps turning itself off

[stone bay]

Me and my green laser

[tough spire]

No such thing as too accurate.

[stone bay]

the subtitles are

"fuck holmes"?

"fuckholes".

[tough spire]

DUDE they got rid of "George M" but left in a bunch of others. Stab to my gut.

[bright valley]

1.0 was such a good update for shotties. Fixed the pump action void, fancy new breaching sg model, fancy integrated light for the 870, new supernova, slugs became usable

oh, and dismemberment. can't forget that

[stone bay]

Yeah I noticed they fixed the door jam and wedge subtitles

[upbeat niche]

Anyone know if bounce light setting is broken or something, everytime i enable it, it instantly disables

[tough spire]

I'm debating between keeping George M on this Discord for honorable memory or actually going back to my normal person handle. 🥲

[stone bay]

Been the best shotgun gunplay I had in a long while

[bright valley]

#❗known-issues-and-fixes message
- Settings like bounce light not or reflex not saving when applied.

[bright valley]

I considered becoming Kim Light but I didn't want to confuse anyone who knew me, lol.

[stone bay]

Watch him become an easter egg someday

[tough spire]

Kim Light would be very good

[stone bay]

Enter a Team to TOC

[upbeat niche]

Thank you 🙏

[tough spire]

Talk to Element

[bright valley]

I can also recommend RDR2 for good shotgun gameplay. Pretty sure it inspired the dismemberment system RoN uses.

[stone bay]

I came from RDR2 before RoN LMAO

Played and finished it 4 times

first was Vanilla then the rest modded

[tough spire]

Ground Branch has the best I've seen so far but RoN is close

[round epoch]

I didnt like ground branch

[stone bay]

I don't have GB nor Six Days nor Zero Hour

NOw that I think about it, tactical shooters made a resurgence all of a sudden. Or was I just missing out throughout the years

[tough spire]

Zero Hour is very rough after playing RoN but I support the heck out of them for trying the things they have. Haven't tried Six Days yet either. On my wishlist. lol

[upbeat niche]

I accidently shot a civillian in the shoulder and you can see the bone in there what the hell

[bright valley]

I think invoking Rule of Cool is mandatory when designing shotgun gameplay.

[stone bay]

Screenshot or vid pliz

[stone bay]

and destruction

[tough spire]

Something GB does that I wish RoN would do is reloading that doesn't suck. You can do either single shell or multiple depending on how you button press.

[upbeat niche]

A little bit late now, but I will try to search an image to show how it looked (ingame image ofcourse)

[bright valley]

Oh! Project Zomboid. Another game that does shotties justice, though not an FPS.

[stone bay]

I don't mind it too much. I'm usually just immersed in RoN's gunplay most of the time

[tough spire]

Zomboid's attention to detail is insane.

[stone bay]

I need to have a go at that game

[bright valley]

Yeah, turning on the setting to reload all shells and then interrupting it seems to be the best way to do it IMO.

[stone bay]

I recently came from State of Decay 2 as well

[upbeat niche]

I cant find an image 😩

[stone bay]

Welp time to do it again

[bright valley]

It's got a brutal learning curve that'll get you killed over something stupid. Whoops, burned the safehouse down because you put metal cookware in the microwave.

[upbeat niche]

Real

[stone bay]

Yeah from what I've seen in so many videos. Defo would be my perfect zombie game

[tough spire]

It's sort of a weird game because assuming you play the default settings the ideal endgame is just turning it into Stardew Valley.

[bright valley]

If you've got an experienced friend who can basically mentor you while you learn the game, it's perfect.

[stone bay]

I alr know I'll die a lot just from the car alone and how it works

Since nobody in modding-chat is answering it, I might as well ask here

Any custom map that works well with SWAT AI?

[main lodge]

does anybody else fucking hate the weather in the uk?

[bright valley]

Can I still hate the weather in the UK as someone who doesn't actually live there, just as a gesture of solidarity?

[radiant fjord]

anyone know where the RON models are stored wanna pull the helmet assets so that i can make a mod

[tough spire]

#🎨ron-screenshots-and-art message Bwahahaha

[loud patio]

are the 3d printers in ends of the earth, prusa printers?

[soft narwhal]

This is Talk

[vapid crow]

ik this prolly alwasy asked but when is suspect ai gonna get balanced?

[tough spire]

Read latest patch notes

[crude prism]

Suspect AI is getting made HARDER next update

[vapid crow]

i saw it was coming in hotfix 3 but any time table on that?

[mighty elbow]

WAIT WHAT!

[livid notch]

ehhh... seems like No Godlike AI mod will stay for longer

[stone bay]

[crude prism]

suffer ye of little skill

[bright valley]

[tough spire]

People crying about AI while I run around Mindjot decapitating security guards with the shotgun

I'm going to hell but I'm letting them get there faster.

[vapid crow]

see the ai is fine as long as your not going for S rank. ive been stuck on the night club fo rto long bc every time I take a few steps i get wall banged from across the map

[bright valley]

Going to hell but making sure I have company

[tough spire]

Breacher stacking blows btw, in case anyone was curious

[bright valley]

Tragic.

[vapid crow]

also any tips for the nightclub map getting S rank?

[tough spire]

I just C2'd into someone and they didn't even flinch.

Breach mechanic too unreliable for Breacher stacking to be useful.

[native rune]

I’ve never seen a suspect that wasn’t insta downed by a c2 react to one going off in any way

[crude prism]

Y'know, I'm not actually sure how C2 morale penalty works

[native rune]

Me neither, they don’t even stun them I don’t think, or at least it never seems to noticeably, or make them want to surrender

[crude prism]

Wonder if it's just a big sphere or if it needs LOS checks? Maybe it affects everyone in the whole "room" designated

[tough spire]

Alright gonna try either Veteran stack or 2Intim/2Paci depending on how RNG smiles upon me

Yeah if the C2 doesn't immediately hit them it doesn't seem to do much.

Maybe I should be doing breacher but ramming open doors instead?

I dunno, I let myself die to reset my roster 😂

[bright valley]

I probably misunderstand a lot, but I can't help but feel like the stress and morale systems kinda conflict with each other, at least on paper?

[native rune]

Void’s explanation has basically remained: Going Loud = Cracked AI but going quiet = good, but every action you need to do is loud

[bright valley]

I wish I better knew what the intention of the developers' design was with some of these technical underpinnings.

[native rune]

Also use grenades all the time but not all the time

[tough spire]

Basically you need to only be loud when necessary. Which makes sense.

[crude prism]

Utility spam will raise stress, so if you're not effective with your deployments, you will agitate the whole area

Ineffective engagements, where you need to fire a lot of shots, also raise stress considerably

The idea is to dissuade players from being loud and careless

[tough spire]

Which if this Discord channel is indication, a good chunk of them are

[bright valley]

I dunno, I think some of their design choices are just kind of weird, trying to enforce a specific playstyle without the game necessarily making it clear what that playstyle is.

[crude prism]

I agree, it's not very clear how the systems work, and you certainly need a lot of outside information to get a good understanding of it

[lethal sparrow]

For some reason, if I look at my ai squad, my game because very laggy. When I look away, my fps is back to normal. Any fix?

[bright valley]

Like, wallbang-happy suspects apparently being an attempt to counter wallbang-happy players? Wouldn't the RoE cover that?

[native rune]

This you #👮ron-discussion message

[bright valley]

How many people are complaining about wallbanging from the suspects who aren't even utilizing it as a tactic themselves?

[tough spire]

💪 No regerts

[prime wing]

A dev video series explaining the AI could be useful.

[crude prism]

Not necessarily, if you yell and suspects can hear you. (or are otherwise turned on already) If they become "active" and raise their weapons, they are free game for killing.

If you shout a lot, and then use a mirrorgun, you can just wallbang the entire map 1 by 1

[tough spire]

(Also yeah by the time I let them kill me they were AGITATED 😂 )

[earnest python]

yup, the second that gun comes up, it's open season

[tough spire]

I never saw wallbanging suspects as a counter to wallbanging players, I saw it was a punishment for making too much damn noise on the other side of a wall.... which is the only time I ever see it happen anyway

[bright valley]

At that point, god, I'd argue to let the player have their win.

[bright valley]

And yet, according the last blog we've received...

[fleet talon]

Try a firefight on the final map, enter via tower and go into main building that way

[prime wing]

I never once tried to wallbang unless i had no other option

Before 1.0

[vapid crow]

Tips for S rank???

[crude prism]

If you injure a suspect, regardless of LOS, they instantly snap and fire on your location. Watch this example #🎬ron-clips-and-media message

[fleet talon]

Not even unloading into doors??

[wooden granite]

Gas gas gas

[bright valley]

Really trying too hard to have it both ways by seemingly wanting wallbanging in the game but also don't wallbang.

[prime wing]

Shooting on sight across the door or without yelling would be against roe

[fleet talon]

Yeah I yell first, i mean after the suspect closes the door and shoots through it, happens all the time for me

[bright valley]

Or again, maybe it all works if you play exactly how is intended and I just have no idea what the precise intention is. I dunno. 🤷‍♀️
I'll brb.

[prime wing]

I dont know if that many players were wallbanging before 1.0

[bright valley]

Sometimes I wonder if the NDA discord just has wildly different discussions about the game's most pressing issues than here, lol.

[tough spire]

"Partly" is the words they used.

[tough spire]

Lol wild.

[tough spire]

Pre 1.0 we'd have someone with the FAL running AP rounds and someone with a mirror double-team doors and guide the other person's shots until they'd get freebies through the walls.

[prime wing]

Mirror wand was a mistake

Change my mind

[tough spire]

Making it see through any door was a mistake, but I like it as a concept

[crude prism]

Yeah it's pretty unfair. Because it also means that PROPERLY returning fire during engagements on suspects who may have broken LOS or are in cover, will result in you getting beamed

[tough spire]

I guess just don't shoot to wound for now

[crude prism]

Or accidentally hit someone you can't see, it's that shrimple

[tough spire]

I doubt that happens very often tbh

Maybe 1% of all rounds

[crude prism]

Considering I've got an accidental force penalty through the wall maybe once in 300 hours during Adam, I'm gonna say no

But it happens, which means you will get counter-lasered

[tough spire]

Right, exactly.

[dense quest]

my god relapse is hard hard

how are you even supposed to arrest the scumbag

[prime wing]

Would having more civilians be a good counter for those who are wallbanging? The increased risk of hitting a civilian. Or maybe shooting through a wall if unprovoked would take points away for poor discipline or whatever

[earnest python]

i beamed a civvie through a wall in Elephant once, I think that's the only time I've ever had that happen.

[tough spire]

Yes, and more hostage taking which is also super rare

[crude prism]

More civilians, as we know the game can at least 'kinda' handle it after seeing Elephant.

Also suspects should not be considered fair game if they haven't ever had LOS to the player. Currently the ROE will make them fair game as soon as they become "active" (which can be cheesed)

[prime wing]

Civilians in elephants are the least annoying for some reason

[earnest python]

I think the AI could be worked on so that players don't feel the need to cheese them. (like wallbanging players with perfect accuracy after seeing them for 0.2 seconds)

[prime wing]

They dont get in the way as often

[humble mauve]

the only issues I've seen with civs in elephant is if you tell them to run to the exit there's always a good few that don't get auto cuffed

[prime wing]

I should add that there are inconsistent wall materials across maps that ought to be fixed soon. Thats a whole different issue

[crude prism]

Basically everything in the game is made of plaster unless it is visually wood or makes a tile/brick shattering sound effect when hit.

Plaster is literally the weakest shit in the game, even the wood walls on 213 stop more than like the plaster walls on mindjot

[soft pilot]

shoot anyone you see

[dense quest]

kill suspects save civilians good luck

[tough spire]

Plaster is super fragile. lol

That's why you don't hang your TV on plaster, you mount to a stud.

Wow brag

[crude prism]

Ayup. It's just annnoying because it's another thing the game doesn't make very clear. The material of surfaces

[earnest python]

it's all sheetrock in most american houses

[livid notch]

or, if you have house made from normal materials like bricks etc. your error margin is much higher 🙂

[prime wing]

David Judge “No emotion” Beaumont

[tough spire]

We don't do brick in earthquake zones.

[crude prism]

I want to say that 213 is actually the only map where most of it is 'difficult' to penetrate. Besides carriers/Port maybe?

Everything else on every map is plaster and doesn't block shit

[livid notch]

and FN FAL behaves like damn railgun there

[prime wing]

You must really want it in order to get wallbanged in 213, unless you are hugging the wall

[crude prism]

I did some example comparisons of materials/maps and dropped them in the spreadsheet on the "ammo quick ref" page

In theory the SA-58 at 1250 pen could go through ~9 standard thickness walls on mindjot

At least JHP ammo actually works now. Significantly reduced penetration potential across the board

If you hit a person with JHP odds are the bullet was caught and won't continue on, even JHP out of the SA-58

[frail quartz]

UPDATE: It happened again, I was playing 4u gas station and a bullet went through a suspect and hit a civilian in the upper arm and made them bleed out 😦

[crude prism]

I'l see you in court!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[frail quartz]

As the Judge, I declare myself not guilty

Take that!

[crude prism]

Damn he's good

[tough spire]

I wish breaching shotguns for AI didn't make them stand an inch away from the thing they're blowing.

[prime wing]

David Judge “I pledge the fifth” Beaumont

[dense quest]

tell that to turkey 🙃

[tough spire]

I'm not responsible for the Turks

YES. RNG smiles upon me.#🎨ron-screenshots-and-art message

[fiery flame]

i shot at a bomb and it did not explode😭

[viscid bane]

Try shooting at the s vest next time

[fiery flame]

no

i shot at like the planted bombs on elephant

[tough spire]

Lol someone DMed me on this server trying to pirate a copy of this game by claiming their version is corrupted.

[livid notch]

David Judge "The unPTSDable" Beaumont

[bright valley]

Okay, I was away so I'm a little late to the earlier conversation, but the skinny of my thoughts on the "what should the game do about people exploiting wallbangs" subject is that I don't think the game needs to concern itself super terribly with some obscure "meta," especially if the solution would be at the cost to people who don't even use it.

[viscid bane]

Genius!

[fiery flame]

should have just reinstalled

[viscid bane]

Sounds like a you problem tbh

[bright valley]

Metagaming can totally ruin the player experience in PvP games but it's way less of an issue in PvE.

[viscid bane]

Good thing RON will never have pvp

[tough spire]

If you google "why is somoeone asking me for appmanifest" you immediately get answers telling you that's how someone pirates a game. You're giving them your ownership credentials when you do that.

Pretty funny that you're also now challenging it in the chat and revealing yourself. I wasn't even going to say anything.

[fiery flame]

in that 4 hours you could have been reinstalling

[tough spire]

https://store.steampowered.com/app/1144200/Ready_or_Not/ -> Add to Cart -> Purchase -> Verify Integrity of Game Cache. Should be fastest way to do this legit.

[weary moon]

qwerty can you calm down please okay sir? help will be with you shortly

[bright valley]

LET'S GO WALL OF TEXT

[weary moon]

sir please you must redeeem the game

sir calm down

[fiery flame]

step 1: buy game

[bright valley]

sir can you put your hands up please

[fiery flame]

step 2 :install

[weary moon]

calm down please okay sir. you must redeem your ticket

[tough spire]

"LastOwner" "(MY STEAM ID)"

My dude you just outed yourself for pirating that too.

[fiery flame]

😭

[weary moon]

sir i must report you for trolling the main channel

[tough spire]

If that was a legit copy it'd have a real ID in that section 😂

[bright valley]

modern liberals tf what

[fiery flame]

yes

[weary moon]

@sterile canopy please calm down in main channel sir help is on the way please you must redeem the ticket

[tough spire]

Oh sweet summer child. I wouldn't cast stones right now.

At this point I'm not sure if the attempt at pirating the game is funnier or the insults.

[vital ferry]

AI FIX WHEN???

[bright valley]

i have so much i want to say but i'm trying to keep things civil lol

[weary moon]

improve skill

[fiery flame]

why are you insulting people if you are requesting help from them, from what i have been taught in school being rude is bad

[tough spire]

Dang shoulda got his steam account so I could have just reported the account.

[fiery flame]

bro just stopped responding

[livid notch]

get some mods

[fiery flame]

👍

ron-media

[tough spire]

Even that proof looks sketch

[bright valley]

don't forget the 3 funny numbers on the back

[prime wing]

can you send your pak folder, trying to see the root issue here

[loud patio]

should I turn my house into ends of the earth and start 3d printing gun mods?

[brittle hinge]

why not just a screenshot of your profile with RON under "recent activity", that would have been easier i feel

[stone bay]

Yes

[brittle hinge]

alright, fair enough

[loud patio]

I’m gonna print glock switches and sell them to gangs in Detroit,nyc,Mexico,Chicago

[crude prism]

Top 10 things that won't look good in court:

[fiery flame]

i just prank right

[bright valley]

LSPD, DON'T MOVE

[stone bay]

Or just go full on 2A and 3D print guns. Like the Plastikov: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UdB59FLQ18U

[loud patio]

new mission “Poptarts raid”

[loud patio]

yeah

[loud patio]

I won’t go to court if they can’t find me

[fiery flame]

its all for goofs and laughts

[prime wing]

We cant be sharing game files around in the discord, its a security issue and downloading anything from random users is not a good idea.

[frail quartz]

IN CASE OF AN INVESTIGATION BY ANY FEDERAL ENTITY OR SIMILAR, I DO NOT HAVE ANY INVOLVEMENT WITH THIS GROUP OR THE PEOPLE IN IT, I DO NOT KNOW WHY I AM HERE, PROBABLY ADDED BY A THIRD PARTY, I DO NOT SUPPORT ANY ACTIONS BY THE MEMBERS OF THIS GROUP

[tough spire]

[loud patio]

IN CASE OF AN INVESTIGATION BY ANY FEDERAL ENTITY OR SIMILAR, I DO NOT HAVE ANY INVOLVEMENT WITH THIS GROUP OF THE PEOPLE IN IT, I DO NOT KNOW WHY I AM HERE, PROBABLY ADDED BY A THIRD PARTY, I DO NOT SUPPORT ANY ACTIONS BY THE MEMBERS OF THIS GROUP

[bright valley]

"I do not know why I am here"
fuckin mood

[loud patio]

I promise it was a joke 😘

aren’t the printers in ends of the earth prusa printers?

[fiery flame]

i belive the the mission "twisted nerve" is just a modern representation of highschool but with vapes instead

[tough spire]

It's really concerning how often you ask that question

[loud patio]

me? well I just need to know for accuracy

okay what if there was a mission like brixleys talent time but for furries

idk how to explain it

[fiery flame]

Do you perchance happen to live in 128 Windy Coast Drive, Kawayu and have a mother in the hospital suffering with cancer and a lot of hospital bills to pay

[tough spire]

I feel like the point most people take away from that mission is "man it sucks that we had to go merc these people for making the dumb decision to break bad over this," not "wow I, too, want to sell illegal gun parts and get merc'd!"

Firstly, at no point have you actually proven you bought the game, just made a bunch of non sequitors and dubious screen caps.

Secondly, you've insulted us every step of the way so why on earth would anyone want to.

[fiery flame]

dont forget about the drinking family and the gambling addiction

[native rune]

There’s a swat line “Parents would’ve had no idea” or something like that when you observe the gun factory in the attic. Bro how tf would they not notice their sons spending shit tons of time up there, bringing bags down and shit, not to mention any noise of the manufacturing process

[static relic]

They're not very curious

[brittle swan]

damn someone need a L+ratio

[static relic]

Hi, how are you

[bright valley]

[brittle swan]

angy

[static relic]

Oh dear, why may that be?

???

[brittle swan]

💀

bro just needs to verify his game files on steam

[viscid bane]

????????? That’s not how it works

[tough spire]

If he owned it yes.

[faint cradle]

stema cocunt

[fiery flame]

so what is working on your computer

[viscid bane]

Just verify files and if that fails re install the game

[prime wing]

do a clean reinstall

[static relic]

Stema cocunt

[brittle swan]

thats a solid L chief

[fiery flame]

thats what ive been saying

[prime wing]

mmmm

[fiery flame]

yes you are

[prime wing]

game is not 90gb.

[static relic]

Didn't 1.0 try to cut down the size?

[viscid bane]

Get better wifi then

Game is only like 56gb tho?????

[prime wing]

do a clean reinstall. We are not gonna continue with this

[viscid bane]

Imagine not having 2,500 mbps smh my head

[brittle swan]

my brother in christ

[frail quartz]

We need to set up a sign before you join this server saying "Abandon all hope, ye who enter"

[brittle swan]

mf doesnt even wanna download the pirated version properly 💀

sounds like you solved ur problem urself

[fiery flame]

with the time you spent here argueing you could have gotten 15% of the download done with your internet

[static relic]

wait, then why are they here

💀

[brittle swan]

they wanna argue ig lmao

[native rune]

Better get started on that then

[prime wing]

If you downloaded it once, you can do it again

[fiery flame]

what did you do to even rail your game this hard anyway

[prime wing]

who tf is xfinity

[bright valley]

ISP

[prime wing]

im stupid

[bright valley]

aren't we all

[prime wing]

put it in english terms

[frail quartz]

Sometimes you're a little too passionate about your favorite game, ya know?

[static relic]

Maybe they use a satelite thing like starlink 🐟

[bright valley]

Internet Service Provider

[tough spire]

[brittle swan]

just do the pigeon strat

[frail quartz]

I'm not gonna question what server that emote comes from

[brittle swan]

have someone put the game on a usb file and then carrier pigeon it back to you

[fiery flame]

i get you

[brittle hinge]

yeah i'm sorry dude but if everyone's telling you to reinstall then you just gotta bear with it and reinstall

even if it takes a lot of waiting

[tough spire]

Mine. It's custom made by me. You're welcome.

[static relic]

Sounds like you voluntered

[brittle swan]

im stealing that

[bright valley]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IP_over_Avian_Carriers

[frail quartz]

You're a skilled artist

[tough spire]

Go for it! Please credit me. lol

[brittle hinge]

well if you finally get your internet in order and xfinity stars working then it'll be faster, no?

[brittle swan]

exactly

[brittle swan]

you have been robbed

[tough spire]

Woooooow

This is LSPD, put down the emoji!

[brittle swan]

i shall be using this as a discord emote from now on

youll need swat to get me to stop

sure buddy

https://tenor.com/view/dont-care-didnt-ask-cope-_ratio-skill-issue-canceled-gif-24148064

damn no embed

[tough spire]

A simple google refutes this. And a simple reinstall would fix your problem if it was legitimate.

[fiery flame]

big sad

[static relic]

Just let them do their thing :/

[brittle swan]

if you hypothetically pirated the game giving you this file would help you and therefore contribute to piracy

[tough spire]

I mostly just want them to stop bothering us with it. The mods have already asked them to drop it.

[static relic]

Imo, i think people need to be punished now

[brittle swan]

time to call in D team

[bright valley]

Just like, as a general thing? lol

[brittle swan]

the internet police will raid me sorry

[tough spire]

[static relic]

I was thinking of handing out bans

[brittle swan]

yeah theyre just into that

[prime wing]

We are going to move on

[brittle swan]

ive got 3 achievments left

[static relic]

Nice, which ones?

[brittle swan]

one of which is the hanged man

[bright valley]

we do what we must

[brittle swan]

which im not sure i want to do to myself

fool, way out west and hanged man

the only hard one here is hanged man

just did medal of valor today

[bright valley]

the fool is piss easy

[brittle swan]

yeah fool is just the lady on valley of dolls

[static relic]

imo, it's impossible for me to go less than lethal or non-lethal

[tough spire]

Isn't the Fool literally just "go into Voll and let her merc you?"

[bright valley]

yes

[brittle swan]

yes

and ive done way out west in mp like 2 seperate times

[tough spire]

I need to do that still 🙃

[brittle swan]

it isnt difficult just killing ppl

hanged man is the difficult one here

im not sure i want to subject myself to this

[bright valley]

i dunno if there's any other potentially violent civs. There are those generic female civ voice lines in the game's files where she talks about a gun but IDK what they're used for if anything.

[brittle swan]

ive never found any other violent civis

[static relic]

Imo, I think the police need a magazine fed shotgun that fires beanbags because the m1014 be looking tempting

[tough spire]

The first time she punched me and bonked out a bunch of my health I immediately shot her dead in retaliation and they got mad at me for it 🥲

[brittle swan]

saiga 12 when

[brittle swan]

i remember that one

first time when the map was properly released

i remember valley when it was all just boxes still

[bright valley]

this would technically be entirely possible since beanbag shotguns are just regular shotguns with beanbag shells loaded into them.

[static relic]

aren't they lower pressure?

[tough spire]

Oh man is the Saiga even still used by anyone?

[brittle swan]

issue with magfed beanbag is beanbags are low pressure rounds

so it wont cycle properly

[bright valley]

ah, hadn't considered that

[static relic]

What if we just hit the enemies with trucks 🐟

[prime wing]

For context, can someone explain whats the deal with this steam file that apparently people ask for

[brittle swan]

yall remember the fast food map?

[tough spire]

You would need a custom built action for the LTL version but it's still doable

[fiery flame]

why wont the swat of los suenos give money to buy me a gen 12 to make missions fun

[static relic]

I still think the LSPD should get a m249

[tough spire]

It's a common piracy tactic to ask for this file for various games because it contains your steam certificate of ownership of the game.

[stone stump]

what file?

[prime wing]

Checks out

I never deal with this

so idk

[tough spire]

I made the mistake of unblocking him and he immediately went after my DMs again. 🙃

[static relic]

Lmao

[frail quartz]

You VILL have GPNVGs and you VILL be happy.

[tough spire]

Give me an M249 with rubber bullets. Just go spraying down the halls

[bright valley]

i do love the strat of insulting people if they don't do what you ask, it really does signal good intentions

[fiery flame]

what does the gp pasrt stand for again

i forgot

[static relic]

Armor Piercing Fin Stablising Discarding Sabot High Explosive Tandem Squash head guided anti-tank missiles imo

[brittle swan]

damn judge is a godamn tank

[tough spire]

jfc Sosig.

[brittle swan]

mf just dropped down from like 10 metres, minor leg damage

[tough spire]

Make windows and oranges not widows and orphans

[frail quartz]

"Ground Panoramic Night Vision Goggles"

[static relic]

It's called gross negligence, mine is cold,calculated proper use of force

(i'm terrible at math)

[fiery flame]

in "sins of the father" why is it that TOC does not care if you shoot at the buildings

[tough spire]

There is no overkill only open fire and I need to reload?

[brittle swan]

its low income housing

[static relic]

It's only overkill if people get to see the footage

People be too sensitive

[bright valley]

logic would track that the building has shown intent to harm

[tough spire]

#🎨ron-screenshots-and-art message Ballistic Mask literally unusable. Clips into every other multicam helmet and has the wrong colors.

[brittle swan]

theres a mod that adds a rifle with the bb ammo its really fun

[tawdry nymph]

sooooo

[wispy mural]

They really need to fix the shading of every uniform colour to be consistent with each other

[static relic]

9mm MK18 is very funny

[wispy mural]

But there’s mods for it thankfully

[tawdry nymph]

question

[static relic]

mods make this game super fun

[tough spire]

I'm also upset that the camera has a lazy spray paint camo, too, but picking my battles 😂

[tawdry nymph]

shoould I use an AR for the hotel map or something more for CQB

[static relic]

Imo, if it depends how much you have collision issues

[brittle swan]

mcx gang mxc gang

[fiery flame]

I use LVAR for everything

[brittle swan]

arn180 gang arn180 gang

[bright valley]

nearly the whole RoN arsenal is CQB-oriented.

[brittle swan]

lvar , aka the skyshooter

[static relic]

Do you guys like the SLR-47?

[shadow ether]

Which sucks

[tough spire]

It's pretty good

[static relic]

huh

[tough spire]

2-round burst it for the win.

[static relic]

i just rapid-fire semi-auto :/

[tawdry nymph]

meh tbf i dont precisely wanna use a SMG for the map as it dont have enough stopping power to deal with the hotel freaks

[fiery flame]

usp45 on top

[tough spire]

Also good.

[shadow ether]

Also is it a me problem or gas station really doesn't allow you to chuck a grenade into the diner through a broken window? That's the best spot to do it imo and it doesn't work

[tawdry nymph]

i just do semi and pop like several rounds t the target and two more when they are down

[wispy mural]

It’s like a weird desert brushstroke camo you’d probably see SOF use maybe

[bright valley]

Brisa Cove or Sins of the Father?

[wispy mural]

Should’ve just kept it black