programming

[unkempt hamlet]

Yeah

[mossy cloud]

And DMd me about it lol

[slim pendant]

lol

[rigid zenith]

who desined the vtc system🤔

[unkempt hamlet]

Mostly J-M with many internal contributions

[rigid zenith]

is there a system to blacklist people from applying as there is a certian person who wont stop when we deny his app

starting to get enoying

[unkempt hamlet]

Yes, https://truckersmp.com/knowledge-base/article/1107

[rigid zenith]

👍

[next crane]

If you use relational databases and the "action" field is text, then I recommend adding a integer and indexed "action_crc32" field. Calculate it based on the "action" when inserting a record into the database. Before making a selection for an event, calculate its crc32 and select this by "action_crc32". This will speed up your application. Generally, MySQL and PostgreSQL index integer fields better than text, and it works faster (I think it is also relevant for MSSQL). Also, don't forget about the indexes for your tables in DB.

[royal quiver]

For the 600ms average ping, over what time period is that ping checked?

[cinder spear]

What do you folks use as affordable logging solutions? Looking for some alternatives I could use for a personal project that writes a lot of logs that aren't queried very often, but do occasionally need to be filtered by arbitrary fields like a request ID for example. As text it's doing about 3.5GB a day and the disk on the system itself isn't too fond of it.

Cloudwatch would seem to be about 60€ a month, which isn't unreasonable and surprisingly close to the "run my own elasticsearch on a high performance disk" solution I used to have, but I'm wondering if people know possibly cheaper alternatives.

[mossy cloud]

How on earth are you managing to write 3.5GB of logs per day for a personal project? :O

[cinder spear]

by processing about 200k lines of text per minute

it's just writing to journald right now, but netdata on the same server is complaining it's having trouble flushing metrics to disk

[timber stag]

what do you need that much logs for

[raw notch]

have you considered logz.io?

[cinder spear]

seems significantly more expensive than cloudwatch

[raw notch]

datadog?

[cinder spear]

pricing seems reasonable, might try it

actually nvm, it'd be about 150 a month with 7-day retention

[strong quail]

Eh...

I've exam from AI rn and I'm just waiting 'till it'll finish

Also hai all devs

[royal quiver]

Discord Py

[strong quail]

Nah - for Discord bots I use discord.js

[timber stag]

js supremacyyy

dont kill me for liking js pls

[strong quail]

Jesus... Tried to configure today a web server for my Node.js app that I build for my employer...
But nope - the latest available and supported version of Node.js by this server is Erbium... which will EOL on 30th of April next year...
Meh...

My app will work on version 12, but still that isn't really good,.

[cinder spear]

I just upgraded one of our apps at work from node 10

[strong quail]

Well - I always upgrade Node.js to latest LTS

[cinder spear]

yeah same

except it usually happens like 6 years apart

[unkempt hamlet]

https://youtu.be/fKuqYQdqRIs

[cinder spear]

re: SSH password vs. public key auth

It's much more important for servers connected to central account systems like ldap, where the same password could be used to access multiple systems. With keys the client credentials can't be used to replay a valid login on a separate system to achieve lateral movement in the network; one compromised server doesn't immediately become many compromised servers. 2FA can help here too though.

re: direct root login

Accountability and auditing is important. If an administrator's SSH credentials are compromised, or an administrator is actively doing malicious things, generally need to know about that. There are other solutions that allow direct root login while still having that amount of visibility into who's doing what.

re: firewalls

The entire point is that when you start applications that listen on ports they are not automatically exposed to the world. For example, many game servers listen on a separate rcon port that you wouldn't want to expose to the world unless actually using it. Sure, the proper solution would be to configure the service not to listen for that at all, but in reality that's just not always possible.

re: auto updates

If you're just running a personal thing where it doesn't matter that much if it's down for a bit it's perfectly fine to use auto updates to take work off your hands, better if you have the monitoring in place to notify you if things don't come back up. If it's an important thing it's probably better to just subscribe to security update mailing lists for your OS and keep an eye on them. It's not a useless tool, but one that has to be evaluated before use.

Overall a great video and the point of digging deeper and understanding the reasoning behind things is important, and I wish more tutorials explained the reasoning and trade-offs with their recommendations.

[shadow marsh]

Today, I gave my bot a small but eventual nice update.

You can set now suggestionchannels or remove them and the bot will react to and in the set channel(s) (you can have more than one, but who needs more than one suggestion channel though)

What do you think about that? (and yes, I know, the color is missing in the help-embed)

[unkempt hamlet]

Just like our @glass rampart

[shadow marsh]

Yep, but you use different emotes - but I may add a value, where you can decide between the three or just two ones either with the up/down-vote or +/-

[unkempt hamlet]

We use a separate config entries for +/- reactions

[shadow marsh]

Yeah, I wouldn't do it different 😄

hmmm, imma add it

[royal quiver]

Discord JS?

[shadow marsh]

JDA 😄

Java

[royal quiver]

[shadow marsh]

I finished it now and also killed a small but not noticeable bug I'm kinda proud of myself :3

[mossy cloud]

Is https://github.com/TruckersMP/API-Client compatible with Guzzle 7?

C:\laragon\www\plasmagaming>composer require truckersmp/api-client
Using version ^1.2 for truckersmp/api-client
./composer.json has been updated
Running composer update truckersmp/api-client
Loading composer repositories with package information
Updating dependencies
Your requirements could not be resolved to an installable set of packages.

Problem 1
- php-http/guzzle6-adapter[dev-master, v1.0.0, ..., v1.1.1, v2.0.0, ..., v2.0.2] require guzzlehttp/guzzle ^6.0 -> found guzzlehttp/guzzle[6.0.0, ..., 6.5.x-dev] but the package is fixed to 7.3.0 (lock file version) by a partial
update and that version does not match. Make sure you list it as an argument for the update command.
- truckersmp/api-client v1.2.0 requires php-http/guzzle6-adapter ^1.0 || ^2.0 -> satisfiable by php-http/guzzle6-adapter[v1.0.0, v1.1.0, v1.1.1, v2.0.0, v2.0.1, v2.0.2, 2.x-dev (alias of dev-master)].
- php-http/guzzle6-adapter 2.x-dev is an alias of php-http/guzzle6-adapter dev-master and thus requires it to be installed too.
- Root composer.json requires truckersmp/api-client ^1.2 -> satisfiable by truckersmp/api-client[v1.2.0].

Use the option --with-all-dependencies (-W) to allow upgrades, downgrades and removals for packages currently locked to specific versions.

Installation failed, reverting ./composer.json and ./composer.lock to their original content.

[unkempt hamlet]

We use guzzle6-adapter package

[mossy cloud]

Any particular reason?

[unkempt hamlet]

I don't recall any from the top of my head

[mossy cloud]

Hmm, is there any reason it can't use guzzlehttp/guzzle?

Wasn't an issue when I used https://github.com/TruckersMP/Steam-Socialite

I'm trying to link the two together

User signs in with Steam > checks TMP if an account is there and saves it

[unkempt hamlet]

I don't know, honestly. You can create a pull request (if you have time) or an issue in the repo.

[mossy cloud]

Alright thanks

[timber stag]

why do you do this to yourself

[shadow marsh]

What do you mean?

[cursive orchid]

Hello there, little question for devs.

Did you use your own encryption software for your archive in the TMP Data directory?

Thanks! 🙂

[unkempt hamlet]

I don't think we can answer this question 😉

[cursive orchid]

No prob, I can understand haha, thanks btw 😉

[floral mist]

i hate microsoft/windows and virtualbox as well
Why tf can't you connect in c# uwp with mysql connector to a database running on a VM that uses the host only adapter which is neither public nor private nor domain network category... but using the exact same code in wpf or forms works ...
Fixed it by using a bridged adapter to an adapter in the private network group category

[strong quail]

I would write that I don't understand what are u talking about, but I realised that I'll have to create a project in C# with use of MySQL DB (on the end of this term)
So...
At least I'll know what to do when nothing works

[floral mist]

dang, forgot to add a few words, should be a bit clearer now

[strong quail]

Okay - thanks for clarification

[urban lantern]

@cinder spear late reply but if you're on k8s you could try https://grafana.com/oss/loki/

[cinder spear]

ooh... it's not on k8s yet, but it is containerized already so not a big leap to it

[urban lantern]

3.5GB a day should be fine in elk depending on how you set it up

It's pretty nifty (the k8s stuff) it basically hooks in at the host level and can read std err/out and throws it in. If I recall if you print out json it'll just parse it too (citation needed)

[cinder spear]

sounds like a replacement to fluentd/fluentbit

[urban lantern]

Yep!

Weirdest part about elk stacks is just the tuning if you're running on a single node. If memory serves it will still 'partition’ in 3 or 5 sets by default

[cinder spear]

will definitely have a look at that. K8s is awesome and I love it at work

[urban lantern]

Yah!!

For local development I cannot recommend http://tilt.dev enough

It's game changing man

[cinder spear]

we use https://skaffold.dev/

runs the pod in a remote cluster with hot reload and all that

[urban lantern]

Ah same dealio basically!

Skaffold is cool but I kept running into issues with the quick reloads I was doing

I'd get like 2 versions running atop eachother

[cinder spear]

haven't had that issue, but the pod template we deploy is named after the service+person so when it applies the new yaml k8s just replaces the old pod with the new spec

can't get a duplicate

[urban lantern]

Oou

[cinder spear]

but I have noticed it sometimes fails to hot reload if you save while it's uploading the previous container

[cinder spear]

https://blog.sonarsource.com/php-supply-chain-attack-on-composer

To the best of their knowledge the vulnerability has not been exploited[.]
an interesting example of parameter injection in the real world

[unkempt hamlet]

[cinder spear]

it's the first blog post on the front page, which leads to the same link

[marsh oriole]

Anyone able to help me in my server? I have 2 basic bots but need help with the music one. Need 24/hr hosting and spotify link recognition. I use JavaScript for it all so anyone fancies helping drop me an @ (my main one is 24/7 hosted thru github and fully functional with few bits on it)

[royal quiver]

So you want someone to host a bot for you for free?

[unkempt hamlet]

Firebase has a free tier, Cloudflare Worker has a free tier (requires some code change), etc.

[cinder spear]

AWS has a free tier, GCP and Azure have trial credits for a year

[marsh oriole]

Yeh, i used heroku for my main 24/7 hosting and yes its free but only for 1 im pretty sure

Ill look into other ones but need a bit of help with the spotify code

[raw notch]

bots shouldnt heavy for a little vps, you can get it from a lot of providers: netcup, ovh, hetzner, scaleway

with less then 10-15 eur you can get a 2core 4gb ram easily

[unkempt hamlet]

Hetzner CX21 - 4.90 eur for 2 vCPU, 4 GB RAM, 40 GB disc space and 20 TB traffic

[livid shoal]

Hello

I have a problem and I need your suggestions.

So, I have a developer at my work that's developing a web app in PHP. The problem is, XAMPP and WAMP are not allowed in the company, which productions servers you recommend for a network server?

[unkempt hamlet]

Production server is not what you meant, I believe

You wanted to say Development server

He can use Vagrant box, something like laravel/homestead, which comes with everything OOTB, including PHP, MySQL, Nginx, Redis, etc.

[mossy cloud]

I would recommend Laragon

[unkempt hamlet]

Laradock is a good choice as well

[livid shoal]

It's a production server I believe. We want to host the application on the server for the entire network.

[unkempt hamlet]

Then you'd be better to build the server by yourself. I don't recall any OOTB solutions for that.

[livid shoal]

Build a server?

Never done that before, how would I do that?

[unkempt hamlet]

Install Ubuntu Server, install PHP/MySQL (PostgreSQL)/Nginx, set up a firewall, etc.

There are plenty of tutorials out there, DigitalOcean has some great examples

[raw notch]

i love DO tutorials, they are perfect

[livid shoal]

Oh, you mean that, I tough you were talking like assembling a server 😂

[unkempt hamlet]

That's also an option

[livid shoal]

Thank you both for the suggestions.

Would it be fine if I assembled super computer and tested it by pinging you CJ?

You would have an excuse for your boss (if you work from home)

[unkempt hamlet]

You must have a much SUPER supercomputer to be able to ping me

Sorry, but I don't have time for 3rd party tasks for now, I have my own servers to feed

[livid shoal]

A quantum processor is enough?

[unkempt hamlet]

Two.

And a paycheck from Google HQ.

[livid shoal]

xD

Can it be from Google Maps Team? I have some connects

[unkempt hamlet]

They pay well anyway, so

[livid shoal]

Imagine hosting TMP on a quantum server

[unkempt hamlet]

I mean, it would be a hilarious achievement to run it there.

[livid shoal]

Would OVH have power and space for it?

I mean, they have a big empty space now

[unkempt hamlet]

We will have some network troubles anyway, so

[livid shoal]

We put it on your garage

[shadow marsh]

Does TMP have 1GBit or 10GBit uplink?

[unkempt hamlet]

1 Gbit on new servers, cannot recall the other ones, might be 500 Mbps

[shadow marsh]

That's not much tbh - not for a server

[livid shoal]

If I connect a fiber from OVH to my home, how much ping would I probably have?

France to Portugal maybe 5ms?

[mossy cloud]

Careful, it might catch fire

[livid shoal]

I still think that CJ's garage would be a good option

[unkempt hamlet]

We don't use all of that anyway

[livid shoal]

I mean, it's cold there, so it's a plus

[livid shoal]

Really? This amount of traffic doesn't use 1Gbit?

[unkempt hamlet]

Only when DDoSed

I'd say we have a 50% headroom

[livid shoal]

That's amazing

[cinder spear]

a thousand players in the same area should be about 200MB/s at sim1's rates

or 1600Mbps

[livid shoal]

I don't know how much it is for my government app as it's a private fiber network connecting the sites so maybe 100Gbit/s?

[static cypress]

Does anyone else have the problem of assets not saving on the Discord Developer Portal?

I upload them and if I reload the page, poof, they are gone, never to be found again

[royal quiver]

I have experienced something similar...

[foggy osprey]

They save & show up, just not instantly

Upload a file and wait 15-ish minutes

[static cypress]

alr, thx

[dapper echo]

Yeah idk Discords been weird for some months. Also in some embeds the picture doesn't load and stuff.

[ember canyon]

which website is good for learning Python coding? mainly for people who has the brain of a 5 year old... 😦

[unkempt hamlet]

5yo learn Scratch

[ember canyon]

oh noes, not the PTSD from scratch

[gritty grotto]

Developed 2 bots and websites kinda like truckers FM i think im tired lol at least i get good pay tho

[timber stag]

rename emote to PES5_Scratch

[raw notch]

you are trying to teach coding to a 5yo? how? i have a 4yo, curious to know if she is interested in computers and how teach coding

[ember canyon]

no... i AM the person with the brain capacity of a 5 year old, i have a problem understanding things, i dont mean to be rude but if you have a problem we can move to DM

[raw notch]

sorry.. you what? .. you shouldnt be on Discord 🙂

[royal quiver]

Get them a Raspberry Pi

[timber stag]

I dont think he means actual age, instead making a joke not being able to understand things

[dapper echo]

python docs

[past shuttle]

Would Firebase be recommendable?

[unkempt hamlet]

Depends

[cinder spear]

good for some things, bad for others

[gritty grotto]

If you know what your doing

[unkempt hamlet]

https://blog.getbootstrap.com/2021/05/05/bootstrap-5/

[cinder spear]

no more jquery

[mossy cloud]

Niceeee

[ember canyon]

what bootstrap does

[past shuttle]

https://getbootstrap.com/

[ember canyon]

oh ok

thanks

so it's a library that helps you to develope a website

[shadow marsh]

That's how I understood it, yes

[past shuttle]

Pretty much

[past shuttle]

Quick question, the reactstraps button block isnt exactly working, would anyone have any ideas to why?

Nvm figured it ut

[past shuttle]

Am I correct in guessing you have to pay for MySQL?

[shadow marsh]

I don't pay anything - maybe because I host it by myself

[past shuttle]

Apparently i cant downlad it, I need to sign in, assuming I need t pay for it

[shadow marsh]

well, I just install it with apt install mysql-server mysql-client

[past shuttle]

Ill just rent a host, too much work lmao

[shadow marsh]

that's a 5 - 10 min work - depends on what you want to do

[past shuttle]

Well, I know pretty much nothing about SQL so

Mainly need it for a dashboard tbh

storage

[quick glen]

You do not have to pay for mysql

Oracle has all their downloads behind a sign in, you just need an account nothing to pay

[past shuttle]

Yeah I figured that out

[quick glen]

There's also mariadb you can use

Its "mysql, just better"

[trail vector]

Or you can just click here

[shadow marsh]

I use MariaDB actually - under the recommendation from ShawnCZek 😄

[quick glen]

MariaDB is generally the better choice, its faster at most things you need

[shadow marsh]

Yeah, I recognised that 😄

[amber oasis]

Might as well just use Postgres, save yourself from the horrible mess that is MySQL/MariaDB

[past shuttle]

I was considering Postgre tbh

[amber oasis]

highly recommended

[shadow marsh]

Well, I don't have any mess with SQL

[past shuttle]

Im surprised you dont have retired staff tbh

Ngl I have very little, if not, no knowledge abut SQL

[amber oasis]

left and rejoined ages ago

[past shuttle]

Ah

[amber oasis]

MySQL/Maria/Percona are ok but the moment you get any sort of scale, it'll hurt

when the site was rewritten, if the existing data wasn't in MySQL, tmp would've been on postgres

[shadow marsh]

What do you mean with scale?

[amber oasis]

number of records, availability, backup

[shadow marsh]

I just need it to put/get data to/from it

[amber oasis]

mysql and derivatives are terrible, they are better now, but still not good

and why settle for the worse option when there's a better option?

[past shuttle]

Do you have your on server for sql?

[shadow marsh]

Yes, it's on the same VPS where the applications are running

[past shuttle]

Thinking abut building my own server tbh

[shadow marsh]

Well, it's a VPS hosted by some1 - if I had the money 😂 I'd do my own thing 😂

[past shuttle]

lol

[amber oasis]

cheap way to do it 😛

[shadow marsh]

Yeah, I barely can survive but still do - I can't afford server pieces - even not a used server

I saved barely enough for a damn coffee machine for 50€ - and that in 3 month

[amber oasis]

Watch your local used market, I've picked up free boxes plenty of times

usually prep them and flip them for a small chunk of cash

[shadow marsh]

local used market? Any sites I could check where Austria is in it?

Doubt it will be sites I know already though

[amber oasis]

facebook marketplace

quick google search, https://www.willhaben.at/iad

[shadow marsh]

lol

it's exactly the same site I thought it wont be that one 😂

[past shuttle]

Would vultr be any good?

[north flax]

Whatever used stuff market exists can have server and computer stuff on it too :p

[urban lantern]

Keep in mind the server will cost electricity money to run too

[amber oasis]

vultr is fine, it's low-cost

[north flax]

Hey there, Kat and Thor, btw :>

[urban lantern]

:3 it's the old crew!

[amber oasis]

Now I wish I was in Austria...

https://www.willhaben.at/iad/kaufen-und-verkaufen/d/itanium-workstation-hp-rx2800i2-inkl-betriebssystem-open-vms-468566600/

ohai

[urban lantern]

Omg that price

[amber oasis]

Itanium isn't produced anymore, so no wonder

[amber oasis]

https://www.willhaben.at/iad/kaufen-und-verkaufen/d/fujitsu-server-468185324/

[urban lantern]

Tempted to suggest a raspberry pi buuut

Arm and all the fun you'd have

[amber oasis]

I have 2 stacks of pis

[past shuttle]

I forgot those existed lmao

[raw notch]

with 24 eur monthly you can have a KVM 6 cores 32gb ram 😄

[amber oasis]

a pi3 that runs my local CA

[north flax]

I have one pi laying around, with a touch screen

Might get another one for a pihole later, after moving

[royal quiver]

Depending on the pi, it can probably handle pihole and whatever else you're doing...

[shadow marsh]

CPU is a xeon - and just one gb of ram

[amber oasis]

for that price, you can't expect more

Xeon is Intel's server line of x86 CPUs, so you can run regular old Linux on it

[amber oasis]

He knows that

[shadow marsh]

Well, my VPS is running on a Ryzen with 64gb of ram and 320gb ssd

[royal quiver]

Thanks for the totally necessary ping

[amber oasis]

you said you wanted your own server, you can't expect to get 64GB that easily 😛

machines with that, which are given away or at low cost, gets picked up by people like me who know what they are looking for and has alerts on

[shadow marsh]

If I had the money, I'd do a massive ryzen system - but yeah, the VPS is affordable and it runs fine so far

[royal quiver]

Isn't self hosting a bit of a liability anyway?

[amber oasis]

wouldn't recommend it to the faint of heart

[royal quiver]

I've heard opening ports is a bit of a no no nowadays...

[shadow marsh]

Well, my internet is stable enough but not fast enough for it ^^ and also I do not have a UPS for power backup and and and

[amber oasis]

nah, opening 80/443 is usually fine, but you have to be careful with what you've got exposed

ie. keep your applications up to date

[shadow marsh]

Well, 25565 is the port I'd have to open actually

[foggy osprey]

I host my stuff on vultr, works perfectly

I use it for VPS' with ploi.io

[unkempt hamlet]

[shadow marsh]

😂

[foggy osprey]

Just open steam-api-2020-no-virus-free.exe

It's easy

[amber oasis]

that's outdated, you should get steam-api-2022-totally-virus-free.exe

[foggy osprey]

Ahhh of course

My bad

[fervent axle]

For sure that when you launch it, you have to enter your steam credentials and of course you will "unlock" the API key it's safe like a bank

[strong quail]

Nah - if I were this guy, I would download steam-dev-tools-for-vs-2019-virus-free-veryfried-by-volvo.exe, install it, attach to the project, run it... and wait 'till it will crash.

[timber stag]

very fried :D

[ember canyon]

https://youtu.be/j-4BrANTeCA

[ember canyon]

This isn't an ADVERTISEMENT, it's someone else's project. I got some inspiration by seeing this, and decided to create a Truck Sim for Android, using Unity. Anybody interested?

[unkempt hamlet]

First of all, what is your experience on Unity game engine? What is your experience in physics engines or game development in general? Do you have anything that moderately looking like a game design document?

Or you have funds to properly finance your project?

[ember canyon]

About 1 year of Experience with Unity, physics engines and game development. No official documentation is prepared as of now, working on concepts to visualise the project [Project is in progress]. Maybe not enough funds to support the project but, why not try it out at a small individual scale?

[unkempt hamlet]

Many tried, nobody succeed (I don't deem the half-baked Android port as a success).

[ember canyon]

Desktop > Android [In terms of Large scale Performance] always but, looking at the current click-bait stuff on playstore is what made me do this.

Obviously I'm not gonna make it exactly like SCS. Maybe something good might come out of this project?

[unkempt hamlet]

Maybe. Who knows.

I mean, just the junky physics alone will make your project useless..

[ember canyon]

¯_(ツ)_/¯ atleast I'll try to make it better than the Playstore one's who post PC gameplay's screenshots and attract users.

[unkempt hamlet]

Well, begin with yourself - create an MVP with the basic idea and a draft for game design document with that basic idea outlined.

[raw notch]

consider native MP

[unkempt hamlet]

https://twitter.com/thexpaw/status/1393202683369168898

Pavel Djundik (@thexpaw)

Fall guys leaked their game code in latest Steam update by shipping il2cpp code.

FallGuys_client_BackUpThisFolder_ButDontShipItWithYourGame 💀

https://t.co/nWfwOT9d1c

Twitter · May 14, 2021, 1:52 PM

[quartz moth]

😂

[shy swan]

[royal quiver]

That's the equivalent to submitting your token

[opal arch]

https://secret.club/2021/05/13/source-engine-rce-join.html

[ember canyon]

Hello, Discord rich presence is on and my game status say's "playing ets" this is an technical problem I think

[floral mist]

why should this be a technical problem?
Are you not playing ETS2 atm?

[ember canyon]

I playing ETS2 MP, I wanna do a truckersmp game status and my discord status say's "playing ets2"

[floral mist]

did you start truckers mp through the launcher?

[royal quiver]

You might also have to enable the rich Prescence in the tab menu

[strong quail]

[ember canyon]

yes

[ember canyon]

yes I enabled rich presence in tab emnu

[gritty grotto]

Can someone help me my Node . is not working so i can not turn on my bot

https://i.gyazo.com/a5183a25d47c15340de8c1282692a9be.png

[unkempt hamlet]

First of all, just node without ". Second of all, there should be a main script, like node index.js

[gritty grotto]

Ik node . js don't work neither does node main.js

[quick glen]

Is main.js your "entrypoint/main" script?

Its usually called index.js or main.js

[gritty grotto]

@quick glen I changed it to main.js

so yes it's main.js

[quick glen]

so when you type node main.js into the console, what happens?

[gritty grotto]

ill ss it

hold upo

https://i.gyazo.com/d864544fffb807278437b4a2b06b22b6.png

@quick glen

[quick glen]

Ok. So as you can see by the error, discord is not defined.
Have you done a require on the discord library you are using to import it?

[gritty grotto]

Like const Discord = require('discord.js');?

Thats what i havce in my code

[quick glen]

Yes

[gritty grotto]

have

[quick glen]

Ah, so notice how you have called it Discord with a capital D in the require, but in the line where you get the client, you are using lowercase d

Capitals matter so its unable to find what you imported.

[gritty grotto]

So do i change const Discord = require('discord.js'); to const Discord = require('Discord.js');??

[quick glen]

No

[gritty grotto]

what do i change

[quick glen]

Look at the screenshot of the error you are having

You now know that you are importing the discord js library to the variable Discord, so when you want to use it in your code you have to refer to it by Discord

[gritty grotto]

O h i seee i change new discord.client to new Discord.client

[quick glen]

Yep! 😄

[gritty grotto]

Okay thank you!

@quick glen Oh murphy! now its saying TypeError: Discord.client is not a constructor

[quick glen]

Well, thats because client is actually Client with a capital C

[gritty grotto]

Oh boy i need to just start over lmao

[quick glen]

Not really

its only for the new Discord.Client()

as you can see from the discord.js documentation

So you only need to change the new Discord.client() to new Discord.Client() and thats it

[gritty grotto]

Okay thanks

[quick glen]

You can then use client to access the discordjs client

[gritty grotto]

Oh i see

i got it to work thank you so muchhh

[quick glen]

Awesome! 🙂

[timber stag]

https://skelly.has-no-bra.in/79FjIe.gif

i have a small problem

If i wanted to make the dropdown be limited by the window size... how on earth would i do that

(also the gravatar image shouldnt be under it it should be next to it. odd)

i can achieve it with position relative but that causes the navbar to increase in size and the element to move

[cinder spear]

right: 0

[timber stag]

thank you

[raw notch]

a question for the Laravel experts out there, what's the best Laravel Admin panel? I've tried Voyager in the past, is good but not really a big fan. Alternatives?

[pulsar jungle]

@raw notch I've used Sharp from Code16. https://github.com/code16/sharp. Then you of course have Laravel Nova

Tho Nova is paid

[raw notch]

mmmm is a CMS.. Sharp works with my current models out of the box?

[pulsar jungle]

Yes, you just need to setup lists forms, search, dashboards etc

• on sharp

I use it as an admin panel

[raw notch]

interesting

[pulsar jungle]

Tho it doesn't seem to have a dark mode. At least in the version I use

[raw notch]

mmm ok.. but need to design the forms from code

[pulsar jungle]

Yes, you do

This would be a form, taken from their demo https://github.com/code16/sharp/blob/master/saturn/app/Sharp/PassengerSharpForm.php

I can't use voyager sadly as it's not compatible with other packages that I use

Form validation is in a separate file

• in sharp

[raw notch]

i see, voyager has the ability to start directly from models

and is purely from UI

[mossy cloud]

What are your objectives? I found I didn't really want an admin panel as such, but used Laravel gates to have restricted routes and buttons visible in the normal views to those with the required permissions. I feel it looks better as well as it's one app and not disjointed

[raw notch]

but is nice this Sharp.. gives more control

[mossy cloud]

You can easily use @can('permission') in views or if(Gate::allows('')) in controllers

[raw notch]

there are point of views. "public frontend" and "private frontend" should be separated, as different microservices and different UI, sometime reusing the frontend logic or part, sometimes not

[mossy cloud]

I'd say it doesn't always need to be separated unless there's a need or a business case for it. Otherwise just make it easier for people to find things in the same place a user would etc.

But yeah, comes down to personal choice sometimes :)

[rugged copper]

If you have the money then Laravel Nova is the way to go 100% but another one that is fairly recent and looks pretty interesting is Filament https://filamentadmin.com/

[raw notch]

thanks. I'm trying now with Sharp, let's see how it comes. as far, is nice, already got the first list, have to try building a form

and I've started from the "central" model i have

[rugged copper]

No worries, it’s always nice to have options 😄

[foggy osprey]

Filament is 100% the way to go imo

(if Nova isn't an option at least)

[raw notch]

how much is nova?

[mossy cloud]

$99 per project

Or $199 per project for teams

[raw notch]

if worth it, 99 is not so much

btw, the longest thing is not use Sharp or Filament but install things via composer

[raw notch]

and we have a winner, filament

[unkempt hamlet]

https://twitter.com/ayushi7rawat/status/1395444184404750341

Ayushi Rawat (@ayushi7rawat)

Q: I wonder what do you call a party of developers?

A: a git together.

Retweets

332

Likes

2087

Twitter · May 20, 2021, 6:19 PM

[brave galleon]

ups

[royal quiver]

That font

[brave galleon]

why is it bad?

[unkempt hamlet]

It is indeed bad and hard to read

[timber stag]

67644 / 64000 seems legit

[foggy osprey]

what does this have to do with development?

[shadow marsh]

And what's the development issue?

[normal veldt]

idk maybe they can ban him

[night root]

@normal veldt: You can report players in-game via the Tab menu (https://truckersmp.com/kb/791) or by submitting a web report (https://truckersmp.com/kb/8).

Requesting Game Moderators to moderate areas in the game is not allowed here (rule §8.02 of #discord-rules).

[foggy osprey]

Has nothing to do with this channel: https://i.imgur.com/PDKJpjk.png

[past shuttle]

Well, to me it looks like he is asking for help, although idk what he is taking about 🙂

[unkempt hamlet]

You already late to the party

[past shuttle]

[mossy cloud]

What's going on with the TMP API as of late?

Our status monitor is going up/down regarding the TMP API

[unkempt hamlet]

Our server is doing heavy lifting

[tardy smelt]

Hey,

Have anyone tried the new Macbook with the M1 chip to do PHP / Laravel development on it? I'm debating if it's worth it for me to buy or if I should get something like a Dell XPS or something similar.

[mossy cloud]

I've recently just got a laptop for Uni facing this problem, I decided to settle on a Dell Inspiron :)

[unkempt hamlet]

https://github.com/MSPaintIDE/MSPaintIDE

[mossy cloud]

Thing is, are you just wanting it for development? If so then it doesn't need to be that powerful, my Inspiron has 8GB ram (although upgrading to 16 soon) and an i7 processor for £899, works great!

Powerful enough to be quick at installing things, but not as expensive as a Mac or an XPS

[quick glen]

I'm running it right now doing PHP/laravel on it.. Works just fine, no real difference than an intel mac

With rosetta, you can run intel stuff to so it does not really matter.

Hell the thing runs ETS2 at all low at around 16+ fps, impressive considering its emulating intel at the same time

Apart from that, all the usuals. Go for the extra ram and storage

[tardy smelt]

I had a job once that they gave me a shit laptop and it couldn't handle me. The computer was running it's fan to 100% all the time and I had to stop working so give the laptop some time to breath I left the job the next day since it was shit.

The laptop is for IRL work and TMP so it needs some power but it's mainly for Web Dev. I have my main PC for gaming and all. The laptop is just when ever I'm not home :p

[tardy smelt]

Do you use Laravel Valet?

[quick glen]

I primarily use sail, but I have valet installed and working for a couple projects

[tardy smelt]

But Penguin do you use PHPStorm or you use something lightweight for development?

[mossy cloud]

PHPStorm :D

I use Laragon for the web server :)

[quick glen]

Honestly, I've more or less not had to care about it being an arm processor. There's only been a couple instances where I have had to do some workarounds because of it, and thats only because the project I was trying to use did not yet have any support for M1's and assumed intel. (Cocoapods when building react native apps)

Apart from that I've not done anything differently. I'm impressed with the amount of power you get out of the thing, and holy hell its silent. I cant say I remember the fans having spun yet. Battery life is also great, even when running a game.

The M1 graphics only support two monitors at a time natively (includes the one on the mac itself). Theres dongles that like have their own chip in them so you can get more than two monitors if thats a need.

Most software out there that I've been using atleast has quickly gotten or are in beta/working on native M1 support

[shadow marsh]

What's wrong with Contabo?

[cinder spear]

awkwardly looks at the Go language server using up 10GB while I have my workspace open

[mossy cloud]

Unless I misunderstand though if that's on a server it won't affect your local development?

[cinder spear]

https://microsoft.github.io/language-server-protocol/

it provides language parsing for IDEs so they don't have to do it to provide things like auto-complete and documentation

[mossy cloud]

Oh nice

[cinder spear]

PHP implementations, for example

[tardy smelt]

I know for sure it won't replace my main setup tho

[royal quiver]

Is that a UPS on top of your pc?

[brave galleon]

the pterodactyl panel shows the RAM that is allocated to all servers at the current moment, it does not matter whether it is used or not.

[raw notch]

guys how is called the protocol used from discord to get sharing info? oembed?

[tardy smelt]

Yeah I was running out of room :peek:

Buy me a new desk than

You mean shipping address :peek:

I don't have room for a bigger desk in my new place

That's going to be an expensive shipping Keep in mind that my desk can go up and down too

[mossy cloud]

Open Graph data for the embed

[raw notch]

yeah thanks

[royal quiver]

Understandable

[foggy osprey]

[normal veldt]

oops sorry

[foggy osprey]

Bug reports should go to https://truckersmp.com/support :)

Under the ticket category "Bug Reports"

[normal veldt]

i have an API problem

[unkempt hamlet]

#support

[hard mulch]

Haii

[dapper echo]

No

[boreal coyote]

Add vr support please

[foggy osprey]

^^

[unkempt hamlet]

Ask SCS Software to merge VR into their release build, then we might take a look. Btw this is not a suggestion channel, use our forum for that.

[hard mulch]

No you

[unkempt hamlet]

Stop chit-chatting here, this is not #guests. There is a certain discussion theme here, please follow it.

[unkempt hamlet]

Meanwhile, CDN provider Fastly is down

[unkempt hamlet]

https://status.fastly.com/

[royal quiver]

That broke a surprisingly large number of websites

[cinder spear]

there aren't many companies that offer edge computing at scale

[ember canyon]

Hello

[past shuttle]

Im actually losing my mind over python

Anyone willing to help me out with my homework? lmao

[cinder spear]

maybe if you share the problem here someone can point you in the right direction

not really in the business of doing other people's homework, but if there's a specific problem or concept you're having trouble understanding then that's something to help with

[past shuttle]

Im currently getting this error

TypeError: unsupported operand type(s) for -: 'float' and 'str'

although whenever i try to add a float or string I just get another error,

"ValueError: could not convert string to float: 'y'

not sure what else I can do without changing the script completely

If needed I can send in the file, although I may as well wait until asked just in case 🙂

Fyi, I did try t add a float to my both variables affected and vice versa although I get that second error

[worldly tulip]

Yeah it would be better to send the file

[ebon garden]

yay im going to be doing computer science next year ✅ ✅ ✅

[worldly tulip]

I do not get any error running this program 🤔

[past shuttle]

You dont?

[past shuttle]

go for y, 60, y

The issue is the voucher sending the error

Everything else works apart form the non numerical else statement that idk how to do

[quick glen]

Looking at your code, and the error here its kinda clear whats happened.

The error is really really really really clear.
You are trying to use the letter y in a numerical operation.. Its trying to convert a letter to a float which does not just "happen" automatically.

finalCost = publicationCost - publicationVoucher This is the line giving you issues.

[worldly tulip]

Yep just got the error, you're using publicationVoucher in two different things

[quick glen]

You already knew what part of your code the error was in so all that was needed was to look for the part where you are trying to do what the error says isnt possible.. which is using a string in a numerical operation 😉

[past shuttle]

Yeah true, I just cant figure out how to fix it tbh, maybe a break is needed lmao

I've redone this 3 times now because of the similarities to other scripts by other students that I dont even know lmao

[worldly tulip]

Look closely where you used that variable

[past shuttle]

oh

Thank you, python is actually going to make me go insane lmao

[tame moss]

I'm coding a new website for my VTC xD

[foggy osprey]

good luck

[mossy cloud]

Nice 🙂

[unkempt hamlet]

https://www.gentlydownthe.stream/

Apache Kafka for kids, very interesting approach

[raw notch]

my daughter would comment: "awwwwwww so cute" instead of "i know how to deal with a balancer, yay!"

[ember canyon]

Hello

[loud shuttle]

Hello

[sour eagle]

Does the TMP API return all server info such as afkenabled and maxplayers etc when the server is also offline? To this query btw: https://api.truckersmp.com/v2/servers

[raw notch]

afaik yes

[pine hedge]

Hey, does the truckersmp api have any docs for it?

couldnt seem to find anyting

found it: https://stats.truckersmp.com/api

[unkempt hamlet]

ooo one of the nice features I've never knew I need in PhpStorm

[foggy osprey]

woot

nice

[mossy cloud]

Nice

[brave galleon]

😂 "Your microphone is muted."

[lilac aurora]

How is that even close to being related to any development?

[shadow marsh]

Good question

[normal veldt]

can i here meld a game bugg

[shadow marsh]

You can report a game bug of TMP in https://truckersmp.com/support tho

If it's in SP too, report it appropiate in the SCS Forums (dunno the link in the head)

[normal veldt]

what is the server ip from DC

sombody want in the DC

[foggy osprey]

What's a DC?

datacenter?

[azure fox]

You can not fix bugs yourself on truckersmp. This has to be done by the developers.

Asking for the server ip's is very
If you want to see the stats of the game servers:
+stats in #bot-commands

[normal veldt]

Yea I know I was shearing for the link of the Discord server

[azure fox]

Your looking for a discord link for scs?

[normal veldt]

I was looking for an invite link for the Discord server

[azure fox]

for who? @normal veldt

[normal veldt]

For somebody in the game he asked how I get a triple trailer and I had to go offline and I asked or he was in the Discord and he sat now I want to so I sended him the link

[foggy osprey]

The invite link to this Discord is in #info, if that's what you mean

[cinder spear]

https://github.com/GPUOpen-Effects/FidelityFX-FSR

[unkempt hamlet]

ooo

[tardy smelt]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PNa6JECMS8A

[trim needle]

Uhh guys, Is it hard to make a VTC Tracker? And where can i get the SDK?

I'm still wondering alot about it

[unkempt hamlet]

It is hard.

[cinder spear]

and the SDK is here https://modding.scssoft.com/wiki/Documentation/Engine/SDK/Telemetry

[trim needle]

Ok thank guys 🥰

[royal quiver]

Something like VTLog + a customised VTRPC would be a lot easier if you needed something quickly

[trim needle]

I already have Truckbook, i have used it for a long time.

[unkempt hamlet]

My dev environment is borked

[visual walrus]

Rip

[cinder spear]

another reason why containers are so awesome

[unkempt hamlet]

ikr

Well, technically speaking, reproducible environment is fine too

[cinder spear]

yeah, containers just make that easy

[mossy cloud]

Your filesystem is fscked 😂

Good luck 😂

[unkempt hamlet]

Had to start over, good lord I'm using Vagrant

[mossy cloud]

Have you considered Laragon? Worth checking out imo

[unkempt hamlet]

I'd like to have the most barebone solution as possible. With Vagrant, I just vagrant up and voila.

[mossy cloud]

👍

[unkempt hamlet]

I am actually a Laradock contributor

[unkempt hamlet]

Oh no...

RIP cheap cloud on Hetzner

[cinder spear]

just get IPv6 only instances

I fully expect the price of ipv4 being the biggest driving factor for ipv6 adoption

[toxic arrow]

No tax

[unkempt hamlet]

Happy Sysadmin Day, everyone

[ember canyon]

Echo "Happy Sysadmin Day";

[shadow marsh]

System.out.println("Happy Sysadmin Day");```

![SCPEEK](https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/745176742460653588.webp?size=128 "SCPEEK")

[ember canyon]

Run ❌
Run as Admin ❌
Sudo ✅

[shadow marsh]

[ember canyon]

[swift geode]

Who knows the R programming language?

[ember canyon]

https://youtu.be/c9jAt0AOl9w

This is very interesting to see this

[foggy osprey]

The thumbnail

[ember canyon]

xd

[ember canyon]

brilliant xd

[foggy osprey]

[ember canyon]

[amber oasis]

@opal arch If you guys use emojis from the traffic signs emoji server in @glass rampart still, suggest you either port those you use over, or that we arrange that one of you lot take over those guilds

[opal arch]

All the emojis are already in this server, I believe

Yep, just checked. Botdottir is using emojis only from this guild

[amber oasis]

👍

[fervent axle]

Hello guys, sorry for disturbing but I'm wondering one thing. I'm creating a project for ( my own business ) with Laravel and it need a payment system. Which one is really good? Stripe or Mollie or something else?

[rugged copper]

I’d recommend Stripe, it’s super easy to use and Laravel have an official SDK

[fervent axle]

Ok, will check it. Thanks

[raw notch]

Stripe yes

[ember canyon]

how can i code discord bott that plays trucksimfm and shows song names whit /song command please help im on Android dont know how to add logic into the bot

[foggy osprey]

Well, you can't really code bots on Android to begin with

[unkempt hamlet]

That's not technically correct though.

[foggy osprey]

"can't really", didn't mean "can't" 😄

I don't see why someone would want to code bots on an Android device though

[unkempt hamlet]

You can have vim or nano in terminal, or just open a Github Codespaces or any other web-based development tool.

Possibilities are endless

To be honest, I'd rather use my S10 for development than my 5yo laptop.

[foggy osprey]

Still though, the small screen, the small keyboard

But yeah, if someone really would want to, they of course can get it working :)

[cinder spear]

You can connect a proper keyboard to android

and it works just fine

I did some development on a phone running S60 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S60_(software_platform)) using an SSH app and nano over a decade ago

[plucky shuttle]

hello guys, can someone help me test my api? it works for me but it doesnt for my friend and i'd like to find out if its an issue on his end or globally

[cinder spear]

sure?

[plucky shuttle]

can you pm me?

i cant message you

[unkempt hamlet]

@eager linden refrain from posting useless stuff

[eager linden]

What

@unkempt hamlet what have I done?

[cinder spear]

People said Discord timestamps were too difficult to use so I put this together <t:1629400800:R> https://r.3v.fi/discord-timestamps/

[unkempt hamlet]

[cinder spear]

I can work on the mobile usability..

[boreal coral]

Work fine to me tho

[cinder spear]

yeah I just fixed it

[boreal coral]

Also, great feature 3v!

[cinder spear]

Google's PageSpeed results ez

[mossy cloud]

Hey, anyone here good with regex? Really scratching my head here as to why this isn't matching anything

[unkempt hamlet]

You're matching against one single continuous set.

[mossy cloud]

What's the way not to do that? In my very limited knowledge of regex, I thought the global flag would've prevented that?

[unkempt hamlet]

Hold on, you are checking for CR and LF symbols, but \r and \n from your example are literal symbols.

[cinder spear]

channel keeps getting marked unread

[foggy osprey]

Scam messages

[unkempt hamlet]

https://gist.github.com/Rapptz/4a2f62751b9600a31a0d3c78100287f1

discord.py is retiring

[opal arch]

While I do not agree with all the points there, sadly, the ignorance and no communication from Discord can also be seen in their other projects, not only the Discord API

The point with the need to rewrite bots is indeed valid, @glass rampart needs a complete overhaul... again
For some reasons, bots are being so heavily targeted while the main issue is "user bots". One must invite a bot to their guild, a user account can join any guild

[cinder spear]

Bot accounts becoming more controlled doesn't mean they're doing nothing about user bots.

As far as tighter control around API usage goes, it's necessary to prevent situations like https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Facebook–Cambridge_Analytica_data_scandal

When you know what applications have access to what data, and that they have a legitimate reason to access that data, it becomes easier to control where that data ends up. Data protection laws like GDPR also heavily play into these things when user data (like open programmatic access to chat messages in the case of Discord) is a part of it.

It's never pleasant, especially when limitations are added to a previously open API. But I understand Discord's side of it too.

[raw notch]

anyone has issues with $this->request->getScheme() in laravel behind Cloudflare doesnt returning https but http? even with URL::forceScheme('https') and secure_urls = true in config/app.php?

[opal arch]

I completely agree that restrictions must be made, however, by the way how it is presented, it looks like only bots are limited, not the "user bots"; especially with the recent "explosions" of scams

On the other hand, taking the message intent (for bots that must be invited) without a proper replacement is indeed harming the community of bots

[cinder spear]

User bots are not supposed to even exist so any restrictions they make to them wouldn't be shared with the 3p developer community

You can still get the message intent, if you have a use-case for it, no?

[opal arch]

Use case for commands will be rejected as stated in the post. Otherwise, yes, you can get it quite "easily". Though, many people are not a fan of the verification with the ID card so then it is an issue

[cinder spear]

Right, commands are better done with slash commands.

I can understand the hesitation with the ID card

But it should also be treated as a proper business partnership, not a "give me toys to play with" request.

[opal arch]

They are currently lacking any advanced permission check which is quite an issue

[cinder spear]

How is that different from the old !commands?

[opal arch]

With your own commands, you can easily define who can see and use the commands

With slash commands, you would have to make them visible for everybody to then run your own authorization on the backend

[cinder spear]

It's just a difference in visibility

The permission checking itself is the same. You get the user, you inspect their properties, you make the decision to proceed or drop the request

[opal arch]

But well, that might be an issue in certain cases. Besides, they are currently not supporting multi-line input or attachments afaik

[opal arch]

Well, yes, but the slash command must be then visible to everybody

The idea of slash commands is great but it is not a full replacement for "custom commands" parsed from messages yet

[cinder spear]

looking at the documentation they do have permissions for slash commands where you can limit commands by roles

https://discord.com/developers/docs/interactions/application-commands#edit-application-command-permissions

[opal arch]

By roles, indeed. But that must be specified by the bot, not the guild managers. On top of it, you cannot use the traditional permissions in Discord for that

[cinder spear]

It would be convenient to be able to configure those via Discord's own UI, but there's no reason why a bot couldn't offer that configuration (other than time to implement it)

[novel niche]

Hello! In Python, how do I take a distance (miles) and time (seconds) and turn it into speed? I'm not getting the same answer as in the example shown below. Is there something wrong with my code for it to show a different answer? Thank you!

[brisk badger]

Are u serious? 1 hr = 3600 sec. So the code should be miles / seconds * 3600

[novel niche]

Oh shit thank you my bad

[ebon garden]

what

[unkempt hamlet]

what what?

[royal quiver]

Discord Py has been great, so it's sad to hear it's retiring

[ebon garden]

what what what?

[unkempt hamlet]

You can chit-chat in #general or #guests

[shadow marsh]

Currently I'm using SinusBot as "app" to stream a radio to Discord - however, it got unreliable and I always have to restart the app so the bot's working.
And that's what I not want.

Which bot is able to stream a radio to Discord 24/7?

Thanks in Advance 🙂

[raw notch]

TruckyBot? 😄

[unkempt hamlet]

Even TruckersFM bot needs to be restarted from time to time.

[shadow marsh]

a custom radio, not a hardcoded one

Yeah, but not every 24 - 48 hours, CJ

I don't mind rebooting it all 2 weeks or something like that, however, not literally 1 - 2 days

[raw notch]

TruckyBot? 😄

[shadow marsh]

It's a custom radio, dow - I don't find my own Radio in your bot

[raw notch]

😄

but you asked for a bot that plays 24 / 7

so your question was incomplete

❤️

[shadow marsh]

yeah, my bad 😛

However, I want to stream my radio to Discord all the time - must not be in many guilds, but at least one (main guild) - if it's a bot like TFM, it's okay

[raw notch]

discordjs?

maybe is only a problem in ffmpeg configuration

too much ram consumed?

[shadow marsh]

I don't have a problem with Ram, I got plenty of it. (64 has the machine, but is mostly used for mc-servers xD, however, 4 - 8gb is okay)

[raw notch]

and why it stops to working?

[shadow marsh]

the logs doesn't show anything

[raw notch]

simply hang?

[shadow marsh]

yeah, it just hang and then the bot leaves the voice and goes offline

then I have to log in to ssh and need to restart the service

[trim needle]

How does you guys connect webhook to Twitter?

[unkempt hamlet]

What do you mean?

[trim needle]

I meant something like this (I have to use ConSec example)

It's like automatically posting a new tweet in the discord server

[unkempt hamlet]

It is done via self-written bot or 3rd party service

[shadow marsh]

IFTTT iirc - but I'm not sure

[unkempt hamlet]

One of many, ye

[gritty sail]

good way to do it is https://discohook.org/

[trim needle]

Thank Christian

[gritty sail]

nw 👍

[unkempt hamlet]

https://youtu.be/Pj0Tu2DhjaQ

[foggy osprey]

Gonna bookmark & give that a try soon, very interesting

[raw notch]

there is an online service permitting to final customers to pay (una tantum or subscription like), holds the funds like a wallet and then payouts monthly?
Like Patreon, but without the perks system or tiers.
in this way the final billing customer is only one (the payment system), not many end customers (to bill singularly)

[mossy cloud]

I would use PayPal? (its own account) Then at the end of each month you can move the earned money over to your own account

[raw notch]

no, if you get money on Paypal, customers are paying you, not PayPal so you have to issue bills.

[eager panther]

Hello there!
Well, I'm very new on the coding (I'm beginning) but I'm very interesting about how is it possible to create a job tracker (how he can see your games, account, etc..)
If someone have a video, or something like this to share me about how works a job tracker and also wich language I can use to create it, I'll be very glad.
Thanks you!

[unkempt hamlet]

Hi. I don't think there is a video for job tracker, but you can find videos on different aspects of it: SCS telemetry API, frontend/backend solution, etc.

[eager panther]

Okay thanks you 🙂

[plucky shuttle]

I'm late to the party but there's an open source project called ETS2 Job Tracker on GitHub. I'd recommend reading it's documentation as it provides a really good insight into how an app like it works.

By the way, does anyone know here how I might be able to fetch the 17 digit steam id from a profile url? I know that for some users it's just there but what if the user has a custom id?

So for example https://steamcommunity.com/id/jokerdes/ returns 12345678901234567

[viscid needle]

Manually or automatically?

[plucky shuttle]

Automatically

I'm developing in Python

[viscid needle]

http://api.steampowered.com/ISteamUser/ResolveVanityURL/v1/?key=STEAM_API_KEY_HERE&vanityurl=jokerdes

It will return the steamid64

[plucky shuttle]

Yeah, that's what I meant, I just didn't know that this was the steamid64. Thank you very much!

Can you tell me where I can read more about this API call?

[viscid needle]

https://partner.steamgames.com/doc/webapi/ISteamUser#ResolveVanityURL

[eager panther]

Do you have the link of the post?

[plucky shuttle]

Yeah, one second.

[plucky shuttle]

Thank you!

[plucky shuttle]

https://github.com/Lihis/ets2-job-logger

[viscid needle]

Yeah, no problem!

[eager panther]

Thank you!

[plucky shuttle]

Also, I saw on this projects's Discord server that jammerxd is working on a similar project

So that will be another way to look in to the hows :D

[viscid needle]

There is also https://navio.app/ when it comes out

[plucky shuttle]

This looks promising, I think I'll add support for it in my project

It's basically a drivers hub but a lot better

[amber oasis]

Some interesting tech that might be of interest @opal arch https://www.worldql.com/posts/2021-08-worldql-scalable-minecraft/

[unkempt hamlet]

WorldQL is free for your first $50k in gross revenue.

[shadow marsh]

[unkempt hamlet]

Elixir GenServers (Erlang processes) might be harder, but free

[wild holly]

@eager panther I would suggest a better job tracker, as the one you sent in has a few problems, although it has a good documentation. There is an another application which is called Truckler, and its being developped activly and the other isn't. I'm telling you this info with almost 1 year constant experience with the job logger in a VTC you have sent in.

If you guys have any questions regarding how it works feel free to DM me.

[foggy osprey]

Do you have a GitHub link? Haven't heard about that one before 👀

[ember canyon]

😂😂😂😂 dogggoooo

[foggy osprey]

[plucky shuttle]

Hey there LogRol :D

Yea I know about that, but he wanted to know how one works, and was not looking for one to actively use.

By the way, do you know how I can gather more info about Truckler?

[wild holly]

sure, the developer is called "jammerxd", dc account: jammerxd#2534
And here is a website: https://trucklerprocessor.jammerxd.dev/

[visual walrus]

[trim needle]

[plucky shuttle]

Does anyone here know whether TMP does any optimizations to it's user images? E.g. profile pictures

Or do they just store them unchanged, because well, 1MB isn't that much and storage is cheap?

[unkempt hamlet]

User images (avatars) are fit to 260*260 px and saved using 70% quality

We always drop the quality just to be sure. Storage isn't that cheap as you might imagine, backups and outcoming traffic might be a huge deal for bigger projects.

[plucky shuttle]

Ah okay. Thank you,

[unkempt hamlet]

Happy 256th day, dear programmers!

https://tenor.com/view/programming-computer-typing-gif-7963714

[ebon garden]

Day 1 of GCSE Computer Science lol

and learnt some other stuff

mostly theory

[violet copper]

How dare it not be Hello World!

[ebon garden]

quite interesting

[ebon garden]

ask my teacher

[hot shell]

Day 2 😎 :
(btw i should use "with open('lol.txt', a) as f", this must be more optimised)

[unkempt hamlet]

https://twitter.com/j_opdenakker/status/1437350281637990401

John Opdenakker (@j_opdenakker)

The plural of regex is regrets.

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[hot shell]

😆

well yeah, there's "string.printable" or "string.ascii_letters", but it was project i used only once to prove vulnerability, so there's was no need to make super-puper cool code

[unkempt hamlet]

https://blog.cloudflare.com/how-cloudflare-images-can-make-your-life-easier/

You pay $5/month for every 100,000 stored images and $1 per 100,000 delivered images. There are no additional resizing, compute or egress costs.

[foggy osprey]

Sounds interesting

[visual walrus]

[hot shell]

looks like discord is dead a bit

[pulsar jungle]

Something for TMP maybe 👀 https://blog.cloudflare.com/early-hints/

[royal quiver]

[trim needle]

[full forge]

hello developers

[violet copper]

Hello Retired Manager

[full forge]

im not mr important anymore

[violet copper]

😦

[hot shell]

how im angry on this "hackers" that have hacked mskhost vps. because of them, my discord bot didnt work for two days 😡. they copied almost all my data, i hope they won't share it anywhere (btw they started to share admin & creator IDs, imo thats inapropriate). they had another way to remove scam sites/servers from this hosting provider. 😡😡 theyre such a bad guys 👎

[unkempt hamlet]

Well, that's what you get whet you want to cheap out. No offence.

they had another way to remove scam sites/servers from this hosting provider
Well, it is complicated

[hot shell]

Yeah but why those hackers didn't think about "white" people, who didnt scam? Dont forget that hacking is illegal as sharing such a confidential information

[past shuttle]

what?

[hot shell]

oh i see u dont know about this situation with mskhost. suggest you to read smth about it

[violet copper]

Its all in russian, but from what I can see MskHost Deserved the attack.

They weren't responding to abuse emails and their servers appear to be a huge host for malware and other stuff, which is why the hackers attacked it.

and now they say they are shutting down so ¯_(ツ)_/¯

thats just reading the one english article though, so idk

[hot shell]

They weren't responding to abuse emails and their servers appear to be a huge host for malware and other stuff, which is why the hackers attacked it.
i fully agree with hackers' opinion, there shoudnt be any malware/scam stuff, but its not the way to clean hosting provider like that

[unkempt hamlet]

100% free online platform to learn programming languages: https://exercism.org/

for free

[visual walrus]

That’s good

Should be pinned

[unkempt hamlet]

I am taking an Elixir course, it is quite good paced, actually

[visual walrus]

Gg

[foggy osprey]

First pin in this channel

[unkempt hamlet]

I am blown away by Exercism btw. At least from Elixir course. It is so greatly paced.

[foggy osprey]

sounds like I need to give it a try

Still wanna learn Dart

[unkempt hamlet]

You must give it a try

Dart is relatively new on this platform though: https://exercism.org/tracks/dart

[foggy osprey]

What are concepts?

[unkempt hamlet]

Those are big things, covered by separate exercises

[foggy osprey]

Ahh okay

Maybe I'll give Go a shot then, seems to have more exercises & concepts

[unkempt hamlet]

For example, Elixir has 52 of them: https://exercism.org/tracks/elixir/concepts

[foggy osprey]

ngl, I don't know anyone that knows Elixir

[unkempt hamlet]

I know (myself)

Twitch Plays ETS2 runs on Elixir backend

[foggy osprey]

Ah nice!

Maybe if I learn Go though, my DevOps colleagues will finally love me

[unkempt hamlet]

https://twitter.com/BethGriggs_/status/1440785685430956036

Beth Griggs (@BethGriggs_)

@nodejs Hit this fun easter egg running the test suite for the first time since upgrading to Big Sur: https://t.co/IH8UEVBz6H

▶ Play video

Twitter · Sep 22, 2021, 9:10 PM

[graceful belfry]

Hiya so I think I may have the answer to my own question here but just going to throw it here just in case I am incorrect.

Currently I am trying to use mysql in node for my discord bot. When I try and run my bot locally on my pc I get no errors at all. However when I go to run it on my server I get the following error

    at Protocol._validateEnqueue (/root/Filezilla/mgrp-bot/node_modules/mysql/lib/protocol/Protocol.js:212:16)
    at Protocol._enqueue (/root/Filezilla/mgrp-bot/node_modules/mysql/lib/protocol/Protocol.js:138:13)
    at Connection.query (/root/Filezilla/mgrp-bot/node_modules/mysql/lib/Connection.js:198:25)
    at Query.<anonymous> (/root/Filezilla/mgrp-bot/index.js:116:26)
    at Query.<anonymous> (/root/Filezilla/mgrp-bot/node_modules/mysql/lib/Connection.js:526:10)
    at Query._callback (/root/Filezilla/mgrp-bot/node_modules/mysql/lib/Connection.js:488:16)
    at Query.Sequence.end (/root/Filezilla/mgrp-bot/node_modules/mysql/lib/protocol/sequences/Sequence.js:83:24)
    at /root/Filezilla/mgrp-bot/node_modules/mysql/lib/protocol/Protocol.js:404:18
    at Array.forEach (<anonymous>)
    at /root/Filezilla/mgrp-bot/node_modules/mysql/lib/protocol/Protocol.js:403:13 {
  code: 'PROTOCOL_ENQUEUE_AFTER_FATAL_ERROR',```

I suspect this is due to connecting to my database once and querying off of that same connection with out ever ending it. After doing some research I found out that I should be using mysql pools and creating a new connection and releasing it for each query. If this is not the case or you have an easier solution that I could implement that would be much appreciated. I do apologise if this makes no sense at all. Cheers ![feelswowman](https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/604929380598415363.webp?size=128 "feelswowman")

[hot shell]

hi
how much memory do you give to mysql? (check this in *.cnf file)
are you using connection pool everytime or u use it only when required?

[trim needle]

I can see your angry through your avatar

My steam just got hacker 2 week ago

By a Russian

[hot shell]

ofc im angry, my discord bot was offline for two days bcs of those "hackers"

[trim needle]

Dang it

What kind of bot do you develop?

[toxic arrow]

📥

[hot shell]

It was bot for my job

[trim needle]

Oh

[hot shell]

Bot was checking are our servers down or not.

[graceful belfry]

Thank you for your help

[toxic arrow]

You are welcome.

[unkempt hamlet]

https://www.oracle.com/cloud/free/

[toxic arrow]

[unkempt hamlet]

https://blog.cloudflare.com/dark-mode/

https://tenor.com/view/itshappening-gif-4562901

[foggy osprey]

[pulsar jungle]

Pog

[foggy osprey]

https://hacktoberfest.digitalocean.com/ !!!!!

[unkempt hamlet]

https://twitter.com/jgrahamc/status/1445065270272434176

John Graham-Cumming (@jgrahamc)

Between 15:50 UTC and 15:52 UTC Facebook and related properties disappeared from the Internet in a flurry of BGP updates. This is what it looked like to @Cloudflare.

Twitter · Oct 4, 2021, 4:36 PM

https://twitter.com/jgrahamc/status/1445066136547217413

John Graham-Cumming (@jgrahamc)

Now, here's the fun part. @Cloudflare runs a free DNS resolver, 1.1.1.1, and lots of people use it. So Facebook etc. are down... guess what happens? People keep retrying. Software keeps retrying. We get hit by a massive flood of DNS traffic asking for https://t.co/qq6U47Tjc6

Twitter · Oct 4, 2021, 4:39 PM

[hot shell]

Damn

[hot shell]

Some guy on 4chan posted a pic that predicts mass hell happening right now 15 minutes before it has happened.

And due to Facebooks DNS lookups were erased, this interesting stuff shows

[tribal spindle]

i dont believe that

[unkempt hamlet]

Most likely a BGP configuration fault

[raw notch]

https://twitter.com/sinoc229/status/1445639261974261766?s=21 is this true?

Sinoc (@Sinoc229)

https://t.co/7vTDeRA9vt got leaked. Like, the entire website; Source code with comments for the website and various console/phone versions, refrences to an unreleased steam competitor, payouts, encrypted passwords that kinda thing.
Might wana change your passwords.

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[foggy osprey]

[unkempt hamlet]

Yes, apparently. I think we might find some code or comments from @cinder spear there

[raw notch]

oh don't think 3v will comment this 😄

[unkempt hamlet]

Yeah

[raw notch]

also because we can read his code now 😄

searching for 3v commits

[foggy osprey]

Maybe it includes the git history

I just checked, apparently it includes the .git

[unkempt hamlet]

Please do not share the content from Twitch leak here.

[foggy osprey]

Of course I won't

[ember canyon]

Yeeeeee

[cold pilot]

Hi

[hot shell]

[shadow marsh]

Sooo, as y'all know, I'm a Java Developer due to Minecraft. However, I want to try me with something different than Plugins.

I know Java now long enough, but I never saw a Java-Wrapper for the SCS Telemetry to get data from the game or am I something missing?
As there is just CPP & C#, which doesn't help me really much.

[unkempt hamlet]

https://youtu.be/-wMU8vmfaYo

[modest sage]

why is facebook not shutdown yet

[visual walrus]

[visual walrus]

You might be best to look on the tmp forums to be honest. There is a load of info regarding telemetry, job trackers etc, how that is with Java, I couldn’t tell you off the top of my head.

[cinder spear]

Pretty much any language can use C libraries and Java is no different, but does apparently require more work than average

[shadow marsh]

Well, I'm not in a hurry, means if I need now 2 weeks or 1 month is not bad, I just want to mess around and see what I can do.

So, I just need a C-Library for Java and then I have to implement everything right?

[unkempt hamlet]

DLL import is a thing

[shadow marsh]

Yeah, I know

Guess, I will have fun for sure as soon as I begin that

[unkempt hamlet]

I heard something about JNA, maybe that's what you're looking for.

[shadow marsh]

Yeah, my second developer also said that I'm gonna look on that

[unkempt hamlet]

https://www.bryanbraun.com/checkboxland/

[quartz moth]

Can you animate with it?

[unkempt hamlet]

Technically yes

[quartz moth]

[foggy osprey]

I can't animate a non-moving image.. but https://codepen.io/iDiego/pen/WNErNBo

[quartz moth]

[unkempt hamlet]

https://i.imgur.com/yuNGai3.gif

[foggy osprey]

[shadow marsh]

Why do I just feel that one too good? 😂

[foggy osprey]

https://code.visualstudio.com/blogs/2021/10/20/vscode-dev

[unkempt hamlet]

[foggy osprey]

It looks super awesome, definitely going to try it out soon

Opened up a Laravel project & it seems to work super smooth

[past shuttle]

rip pc lmao

[winter tulip]

Would you guys recommend vsc or eclipse for working with java?

[shadow marsh]

I go with Eclipse IDE

but that's personal preference

my second developer goes with Jetbrains IDE, but that's way too complicated for me

[winter tulip]

Is there any major difference between eclipse and vsc? I know vsc has/needs a lot of extensions but that's pretty much all i know (i'm pretty new to this)

[shadow marsh]

I never tried Java in VSC actually, so I cannot confirm nor deny it - but I know, it is able to compile it with the correct add-ons

[unkempt hamlet]

JetBrains for me is a must-have, it is full-fledged. It has quite a learning curve, but it is worth the hassle. For smaller things I use VSC, it has a benefit of being faster and smoother when you need it the most.

[winter tulip]

Out of curiosity. Are you guys self taught? Because I started visiting a school for it (2 years), and i'm currently learning ABAP and Java there (as for the programming languages) aswell as operating systems (unix/windows), data processing and network related things and i wondered how much i actually need afterwards + how hard it is to learn these things on my own

[shadow marsh]

Yes, I thought it by myself by experimenting and many hours of googl'ing around, watching thousands of Tutorials and yeah - but I also began a course, but never finished it, cuz no time (and mood) lol

[winter tulip]

Do you only know/use java?

[shadow marsh]

Yes, I just know Java - cuz of Minecraft (and yes, I learned it over Minecraft, but mid 2020 I began to code simple console-applications)

[winter tulip]

I'm far away from actually doing work with it. I know about basic stuff like variables, datatypes, if/else/switch(case), (logical) operators,
the scanner class and syntax ofc. Still a lot to learn 😛

[shadow marsh]

Yeah, good 😄 Java is in my opinion pretty easy, however it can be complex as well 🙈

[winter tulip]

I only really have problems with creating too many variables, forgetting ";" and } <--- this so far. Often it happens that i want
to print out a freshly filled variable but it doesn't work bc i messed up either the {} or put the command at the wrong place 😆

[shadow marsh]

🙈

Still happens to me too (after coding way too long without pause xD)

[sacred wing]

Access to XMLHttpRequest at 'https://api.truckersmp.com/v2/vtc/VTCID/news/ID' from origin 'https://nexustransport.dev' has been blocked by CORS policy: No 'Access-Control-Allow-Origin' header is present on the requested resource.```

Can't seem to get the API to work via my website, any idea how to fix this?

[foggy osprey]

Yeah. Started with basic website coding when I was like 15-ish, then taught myself Laravel/PHP, got an internship because of those skills, and now it's my main IRL job

Getting paid for doing what you love is such a great feeling, couldn't wish for any better job tbh

[unkempt hamlet]

You have to use API via backend, not from Javascript directly. Remember you have to responsibility cache the requests.

[left fern]

ABAP? I thought that shit was outdated

[winter tulip]

That's very motivating 🙏

[winter tulip]

We use it for SAP

[left fern]

and btw, since you said you're going to school for it, are you doing a Ausbildung?

My dad used to be an ABAP dev/consultant and this here is the first time I've heard about ABAP from someone else 😅

[unkempt hamlet]

Mind your language.

[winter tulip]

Yeah, but in a full time school. It's actually equal to a bachelor degree

[left fern]

sorry 🙄

Interesting, what kind of school is that? And what do you actually end up with when you say it's equal to a bachelor degree?

[winter tulip]

DQR-Stufe 6 or in other words "Bachelor Professional in Wirtschaft". It's an IT/EDV school

We learn about windows, unix/linux, networking, bwl, java, abap, software, physics (and english/german)

and data processing

[left fern]

Cool, I've never even heard that this is possible. Nice to know

But it's only school or do you have to do Praktika or something like that?

[winter tulip]

This year it's only school but i think next year is with praktika

[ebon garden]

i can finally use vs code on the school computers 😂

we i already can but i have to install it every single time lol

since i cant access %localappdata%

and you cant change anything on the desktop

[unkempt hamlet]

Oh great, Microsoft strikes again

https://www.theverge.com/2021/10/22/22740701/microsoft-dotnet-hot-reload-removal-decision-open-source

[violet copper]

Yeah...

[unkempt hamlet]

Well, they have reverted their decision minutes ago.

https://devblogs.microsoft.com/dotnet/net-hot-reload-support-via-cli/

[violet copper]

[unkempt hamlet]

Come on, you have the whole industry as an example, why just to the most ridiculous thing you can do?

[visual walrus]

[pulsar jungle]

https://blog.jetbrains.com/kotlin/2021/10/important-ua-parser-js-exploit-and-kotlin-js/

[dusky girder]

Why cant I use the full orange lightbar on my car in ATS like I can in ETS2?

[unkempt hamlet]

#support

[unkempt hamlet]

https://www.reddit.com/r/recruitinghell/comments/qhg5jo/this_resume_got_me_an_interview/

[past shuttle]

lmao

Im surprised that got accepted with Lhana Rhoades and RaelilBlack being mentioned

[royal quiver]

This is actually genius

[merry marten]

Listen, hear me out. Yes mr CJ already said we arent getting mods online. But here is my suggestion, atleast make it so we can stretch out our wheelbase, just that alone would be sick. And tbh thats the only reason why i want mods lmao]

[unkempt hamlet]

The same answer as earlier. Btw this is not a place to suggest anything about TruckersMP.

[raw notch]

i'm not getting what's happening with the steering wheel. someone can explain please?

[unkempt hamlet]

What do you mean?

[raw notch]

https://forum.truckersmp.com/index.php?/topic/106460-02354-released

your comment about the security and patch to executable

[unkempt hamlet]

Everything I can say about it is in my comments on that topic.

[raw notch]

well, I've asked something different, not about the comment itself but why you need to write that comment.
I've seen a post from a user about a steering wheel.. and that's a security concern? in which way?

[unkempt hamlet]

...I've covered it in the comment. TL;DR: people found the way to add 3rd party content in the game by making some binary changes to the game executable.

[raw notch]

i wanted the TL;DR indeed to be sure i was getting it correctly because it looked a bit absurd 😄 but the reality supersede the fantasy sometime

[unkempt hamlet]

The situation overall is a bit absurd, to be completely honest

[raw notch]

people complaining about cannot using a steering wheel?

[unkempt hamlet]

Pretty much it.

[raw notch]

everyone has their own priorities :D

[sage arch]

How can I make a Tracker?

[unkempt hamlet]

What kind of tracker?

[sage arch]

I want it to look special for me in playing a game

[unkempt hamlet]

Look special?

Can you elaborate?

[sage arch]

Can you DM me here I can't post someone else's tracker picture

[unkempt hamlet]

We don't have any limitations on image uploading here.

[sage arch]

I want to make a tracker like this

[unkempt hamlet]

Telemetry SDK documentation is here: https://modding.scssoft.com/wiki/Documentation/Engine/SDK/Telemetry
Discord Rich Presence API documentation is here: https://discord.com/developers/docs/rich-presence/how-to

I think there are some open-source implementations available though, I don't know about those

[foggy osprey]

if you know NodeJS, there's https://github.com/kniffen/TruckSim-Telemetry

You can nicely combine that with DiscordJS' https://github.com/discordjs/RPC package

[sage arch]

Thanks

[winter tulip]

Can someone look over some basic coding with java and maybe give me advice? It's really short code (just a basic calculator)

[shadow marsh]

Sure, shoot me a DM, will check that out tomorrow, when I got to my PC (will be approx at about 10am cet)

[unborn prairie]

I'm big dev with 50million earnings a year.

[shadow marsh]

Suuure, and I'm the actual head dev of Microsoft both is false, so eh

[boreal coral]

Then I must yell you for the shitty requirements of Windows 11

[shadow marsh]

Glad you like my newest creation

[boreal coral]

even tmp ||devs|| doesnt seem to recommend it 😂

[ember canyon]

Ye sure 😂

[foggy osprey]

[flint stratus]

does windows 11 delete your programms not apps

like local games from steam or uplay / gog or so

someone on ms support said you have to re- install local installed programms

[boreal coral]

[flint stratus]

thought you have windows 11 because of the answer :/

[boreal coral]

I was just joking bout w11 requirements like tpm or a new cpu

I cant install it😂

Imo doing a fresh install will solve almost every problem you might have on Windows rather than upgrading from w10

[flint stratus]

ahh okay xd

[foggy osprey]

When upgrading from W10 to W11 with their assistant, you don't/shouldn't lose any files no

[flint stratus]

thanks just had an problem with the new community win 10 update after installing my c: space was shrinking every 1-2 min like something is created junk files or so after restarting over 30gb where back on my space idk what was happening but i might stay on win 10 because win11 could have more problems but thanks for your answer.

[foggy osprey]

I've been using it since the official release with an AMD CPU, it works perfectly fine for me. Haven't had any issues

[flint stratus]

Hmm, yeah im also with an AMD cpu and i was thinking about it to upgrade to win 11 for forza horizon 5 and people say that on win 11 you got an better game experience ( performance ).

[hot shell]

as for me - no, my apps & stuff was not deteled 🤔
probably someone else who have windows 11 installed also can tell you was smth deleted or not

[granite arrow]

guys do you have any discord where people talk mainly about map editor?

[royal quiver]

#ets2-modding / #ats-modding would be a good place to ask if you have any queries about the map editor, but otherwise there aren't any that I'm aware of

[unkempt hamlet]

https://blog.cloudflare.com/wrangler-v2-beta/

[visual walrus]

[foggy osprey]

Seems interesting

[unkempt hamlet]

I like how they adopt community tools and invest in them

[foggy osprey]

https://blog.cloudflare.com/cloudflare-pages-goes-full-stack/

SSR support is

[unkempt hamlet]

Finally

[foggy osprey]

apparently Google uses Alpine for the Flutter site, pretty cool for a new-ish library https://twitter.com/calebporzio/status/1460970570804310019?s=20

Caleb Porzio (@calebporzio)

I spy @Alpine_JS 👀👀👀

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Twitter · Nov 17, 2021, 1:58 PM

Interesting that they didn't go for something like Angular though, an in-house framework for them

[unkempt hamlet]

Angular is an opposite of Flutter though.

Also, Angular is very heavy and monstrous

[foggy osprey]

Yeah no that's not what I meant, they chose to use AlpineJS for the flutter.dev documentation site

I know Angular is way heavier compared to something simple like Alpine indeed, but it's cool to see Google using it

[unkempt hamlet]

https://blog.jetbrains.com/phpstorm/2021/11/the-php-foundation/

[scarlet zinc]

[shadow marsh]

Well, it kinda fits in here 🙈

[visual walrus]

[foggy osprey]

https://www.jetbrains.com/fleet/ 👀

[unkempt hamlet]

So, Cloud VS Code competitor

[foggy osprey]

Yeah basically

Looking forward to testing a fully new jetbrains IDE tho

[unkempt hamlet]

Ye, might be interested. "Built from scratch" is a good one, although no plugins on release is not.

[foggy osprey]

Yupp true